previous >>580876239built in cameltoe editionWhat is WoW Forever?Set in the same Azeroth but expanded upon with new zones, dungeons, raids, quests and much more.>New Race SkyborneSkyborne are available for Horde and Alliance but are not the same Skyborne. There was a cultural shift prior and now different Skyborne are aligned with the different factions. Horde Skyborne get Shaman, Alliance get Mages>Many new race/class combos including Undead Paladin and Dwarf Shaman>More than 1k quests added making a 25% increase in quest content alone>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app/#warrior/60/00000000000000000-000000000000000000-0000000000000000000>When is it being released?Release date November 4th>Will there be a beta?Yes you can opt in at https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/forever#blz-optin-1https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/forever#editions
Foreverchads won
>6-7 months of onyxia and hyjalforever bros i dont feel so good...
How long till the next Forever panel?Or was that everything for today
Retail 2.0
they must really think the neckbeards aren't going to just optimize this game within 2-3 weeks of release and its going to be classic all over again
private server troons mega mad
>>580884654it's nothing like retail though?
>>580884528Why do Classic players think this game is for them? It's called "World of Warcraft: Forever", it doesn't even have Classic in the name lol
Who won? Who lost?
>>580884528BLUEBERRY SEXXOOO
>>580884528>hunter in forever>20% lone wolf>already 1500 aimed crits>1200 multi crits>in dungeon blues>still can't earn a dps spot in raidsIt's fucking retarded no matter how you slice it. In the 6 seconds(gcd+4 second cast +2 second travel time) it takes a hunter to dish out an 1800-2k aimed, if it crits, the warrior hits the boss 8 times for a combined 4-5k. The Hunter didn't need more burst damage. The Hunter needed DPS through synergy and scalability. A good start would have been making the pet immune to all AOE effects. That's an easy 250dps right there. Maybe boost pet damage by a flat 10%. But the Hunter did not need more burst.
love effgee anons!love my sky wifey!
>ding lvl 10 >already have a blue weapon from "epic savior of elwynn forest" quest where you defeat hogger after a cutscene >turn in quests for 10 000xp >you now have perfect str+sta gear from all the welfare gear you're showered with >nothing can kill you >you kill everything in 5 sec >see another player with their retarded tent >no point stopping by to get buffs since you are already killing everything in 5 sec >game prompts you to turn on level scaling once you are getting green lvl quests >get mount at lvl 15 >all the quest rewards scale up >you're now lvl 28 in westfall, riding a spectral raptor mount some youtube guide told everyone to get >/4 "LF2M SM SPELLCLEAVE, GOING NOW, BIG PUMPER GROUP" >group of 5 sky elf bots runs past you and then phases into another layer >you now have mostly blue gear, including one epic item from the lvl 30 quest >gameplay consists of running to the quest zone, pulling the entire screen and killing it in 4 globals, then running back on your 100% mount >at lvl 55, you have just finished STV, you do one BRD xp run and you hit 60 >now do it all over again, except this time you have 5% faster movement speed when dead and rested xp generation home
i will play foreveri will not buy the elf
>>580884528What will be OUR secondary name?
private server trannies are seething
>>580884741looking for a cute skyborne egf that looks like that
>NE hunter>Gnome Warlock>Human Paladin>Dwarf ShamanYeah it's gaming time
>>580884612>winter -> spring>6-7 months
im going to make my gf play with me on release. she said she wants to play a pet class and wants to do hunter but i think warlock is objectively better. i am going to play paladin.wat do u think?
>>580884612>3 raids at launch>2 new raids in the spring What's wrong with that? Seems like plenty of content
>>580884707If nothing else, this is not Classic Plus...feels way too retail to me..
This is what WoW Forever looks like - Retail WoW 2
So if they're charging $30 dollars for a reskinned race, does that mean their business model for this game will be microtransactions out the wazoo?
>>580884612do you really think that blizzard are going to dedicate classic-size content production teams to the game to guarantee a new raid tier/content patch every 4-5 months?
we need vulpera added
>Turtle WoW died for this to liveFinal verdict, /wowfg/?
>>580884831>he thinks blizzard wont stall until the end of springdecemberjanuaryfebruarymarchaprilmayjune
>>580884612Just say you hate vanilla
>>580884902Its wowHave you been living under a rock for 15 years?
>>580884720Forever won. Retroons, pserfs, and ESPECIALLY nillafags lost.
>>580884612>10 player raid>20 player raid>40 player raidHow do you build a roster around this?
>>5808846512:15 PST I believe
people cry about the quest markers on the map as if 99% of the playerbase wasn't fucking using questie anyway
>>580884731You already posted this.
>>580884923better than turtle in every way so, very worth it.
>>580884891Nothing about this looks retail.
>>580884923pvmping to blue elf sloots
i dont want to play hunter again but i also think they dont want warriors to overrun classic again theres going to be a bunch of esfand paladins runnin around and i dont want to play a casterguess ill just play warrior
>>580884891>this is supposed to be "Classic"+LolThey just couldn't fucking help themselves. Less in more, but no they had to make Retail-.
Rate my setup Bluelf DruidUndead WarlockUndead PriestAs a start. I’m gonna test during the beta obviously but it really seems like Druid is the star child of this season of forever. Best raid tank, best melee dps maybe only 2nd or tied with fury, insane healing and boomkins look pretty viable too
>>580884972pug 40 and a recruit 20 people, mc/bwl/aq/naxx will be remixed to 10/20 people
>>580885000the coping has begun
>>580884886NOT FAST ENOUGH! WE WILL CLEAR CONTENT IN 2 WEEKS AND WILL BE BORED! WE NEED A NEW RAID TIER EVERY 6 WEEKS TO KEEP STREAMERS AND OTHER NO-LIFERS WHO PLAY THE GAME 80 HOURS A WEEK BUSY!
we are here https://www.twitch.tv/xaryuhttps://www.twitch.tv/xaryuhttps://www.twitch.tv/xaryuxarGAWD tanking as paladin in the troll dungeon. looks pretty good threat still needs to be managed. if the mage blows the load then aggro is pulled
>>580884965They've never put a race behind a microtransaction though, only mounts pets and transmogs, things that don't have an effect on gameplay
>>580884972>log on>ask your stream who wants to go>get a bunch of carries who just want their name to be visible on your dps metershrimple
the haters are DESPERATE
>>580884880>my gfbased, I hope Forever is like those private servers and full of twinks and trannies. I will get a gf in game.
>>580885086what coping you fucking retard lmao, stop pretending you weren't glued to the right side of the screen looking at questie and the levelling route anyway
https://youtu.be/_89KfZyZguk
>Why is Blizzard adding Elves to Warcraft>Why is this content new and not the established retail lore??Private server trannies... this is a nothingburger melty
PLEASE LOOK AT THE STREAMERS GUYS
Things that are BAD about WoW Forever:>no ogres>sky elf racials suck ass>racial balance is general is still ass>alliance undisputed strongest faction by a mile>sky elf cannot be alliance shamans>legacy talents means u have to level tons of alts>rogues and mage got nothing cool>paladin favoritism >no rated pvp bgs/arena
>>580885021You're right. No eye bleeding transmog on heirloom gear, half of the screen is not taken up by addons, no bot shouting advertisements for GDKP or RMT
>>580884972you have dual spec available and hybrids are supposed to be viable DPS so it shouldn't be a problem
>>580884891i bet its physically impossible for them to make new models and textures that look like classic assets due to their modern modelling tools being fully based off retail. this was already a problem in SoD
Why is there a shellfish / crab dungeon in STV?
I mean, just the new r34 porn alone from these blue sloots is gonna be worth troondle dying
>>580885008Same goes for the whole fucking thread. Get used to it.
forever will succeed while your private server gets shut down, lmao
>the kind of pserver fags people think are shitting up every thread>NOOOOOO THEY SHUT DOWN TURTLE AND ASCESION I'M SO UPSET ABOUT THIS>the kind of pserver fags that are actually shitting up every thread>NOOOOOO MY DOA RUGPULL WOTLK SERVER ISN'T GETTING ANY NEW PLAYERS TO BUY 100$ SHADOWMOURNE
>>580885017>better than turtlenahh, it's just SoD+
>>580885143>They've never put a race behind a microtransaction thoughWhat do you think buying the expansion to unlock the race is?
>>580884972ony looks to be the pug raid. same shit as it's always been
>>580884891this looks like ass
>>580884891>Vanilla models, mid 10s models (WOD models BUT with vanilla animations) and modern models all together in the same gameThis will be a visual clusterufk, especially if you toggle off the modern models for playable characters. It's a lowkey subtle way to force you to play with them
>>580884612>wow forever>just get it over with fasterthe absolute state of retail maze rats
>>580885185damn this fat retard is still relevant?
It's not a matter of hate or love, Forever just isn't Classic Plus. That's all.
Classic_+ Hype!
RP mode fem nelfie hunter with a wolf pet.
would you be happier with draenei?
>>580884789>woke is over. not at blizzard it ain't so you better behave in-game or else it's bye-bye to your account :)
YOU HAVE SKYBOURNE AT HOME, THEY'RE CALLED BLOOD ELVES AND VOID ELVES, GO HOME RETOILET, GO HOME, YOU HAVE TO GO BACK RETOILET, RETOILET GO HOME
>>580885231you forgot>no servers
>>580884972You don't need to. Have a core 20m roster and pug the rest for 40's because all of those raids are pathetically easy.
woulda killed for an ogre shaman but i guess it is what it is, blizzard
>>580885304hunter gear
>>580885128yeah about the dungeon reskin. I'm really worried the team has half assed everything
>>580885185Never thought I'd agree with this retard
WHY ARE THEY ADDING FUCKING ELFS TO WARCRAFT BROTHIS ISNT HOW RETAIL OR TURTLEWOW WENT
>>580885420>Clicks white skin in character creatorIsnt that just high elves?
>>580885374>Pre BC WoW with unique contentSure sounds like Classic+
>>580885412>no bulgeeew
>heres your average dungeon party bro
>>580884787Lucius the hatefulSpreadshis holesNig herGeorge driodCant Breathe
>>580885412Yes
>>580885412we are almost certainly getting draenei at some point I want to say. too popular. the burning legion lore has to expand somehow at some point as well.
>>580884972Ony is a joke, as long as the whole raid has world buffs and saves their coolies for the transition she doesn't even have time to deep breath once.
>drowned city>dungeon is gigantic, mobs spread far apartthank you blizzard for respecting my time so i can just skip all the trash and go directly to the boss
>>580885412Yes 1000%
>>580885316But you're not buying the expansion for the race, you're buying it for the new levels, raids, and dungeons. They've sold expansions without new classes and races before. People didn't buy bc or wrath because of dks or the new races, they bought it for the new content, the new classes and races just come with it
>>580885249Because it got raised from the ocean floor. Probably hinting at future Naga shenanigans.
>>580885185>doomfags are obese retards that look like thisLOL
horde and alliance put their differences aside and bond over corpse camping elves
>>580885143>They've never put a race behind a microtransaction though*inhales*BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHA
>>580885412yes, draenei have an extremely soulful aesthetic and starting zone.
SOULLESS
>>580885519>wow players are dogshit at the gamewhat else is new
>>580885457what dungeon was this?
>Turtle died for a retail lite server with slop features
>>580885231>legacy talents means u have to level tons of altsIt's an easier and cheaper source of endless content. How else are you going to keep poop socking 24/7 players from quitting? A new raid tier every 2 months?
>>580885675This has to be the most kino cope I've seen so far.
I tried to get in the dungeon / leveling lines at Con but they are both 2+ hr waits.
>>580885519i'm shouting at my screen watching them keyboard turn and stare at enemies, missing buffs.the people at blizzcon paid money to be there. surely they play the game.
oh no no no no classicbros.....
>>580885519This is what retail looks like too.
>>580885716botting is about to get twice as worse
>ascensioniggers and turtletroons are about to ropemaxx after the announcementlooks like shit but I have to give this one to blizzard
>>580885735Turtle died because it was shit.
>>580885735I would tell you to go back to /wpsg/, but it's understandably dead. See you in November.
https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/1wfa0v6/blizzard_wow_forever_is_exactly_what_i_and_many/Retail reddit is HYPED!!!
Thoughts on me making an undead paladin and self-inserting by using my IRL first and last name on him? Based??
Alliance players.Consider this.We give you Tauren. You give us Night Elves.
>the server monetizing stolen IP got shut down for something official
>>580885787The more they reveal the worse it gets
>>580885796Explain.
>>580885847gigachad behavior
>>580885185>Washed up grifter who made his name being a wowguy is salty because he found himself in a vocal minority who wants things most others don't for the gameMANY SUCH FUCKING CASES
>>580885231>rogues and mage got nothing coolarcane mages are gonna be fun as fuck with mind blastice mages have ice lance nowfire mages have hot streak pyroass rogues got mutilatecombat suresub rogues ehhh
>>580885787AHAHAHAHAHA OHNONONONO NOT LIKE THIS AHAHAHA
>>580885735Turtle died because Shenna and Crogge got too cocky and tried to challenge daddy blizzard.
>>580885787>maybe if I keep posting my blatantly fake ai slop someone will fall for it!
>>580884612Yup. People who never played Classic don't realize that the optimal way to play is to raidlog so you can preserve your world buffs and speedrun the raids.You will realize very quickly why you quit playing this game.
>>580885847bayzed
>>580885787
>>580885847peak chad behavior
>>580885847you're not scared of getting assassinated by an angry human warrior?
>>580885716this is the type of shit that kills the feel of classicthese devs truly don't know what they're doing lol
>>580885852No, monster faction stays the monster faction. If you have a problem with that DON'T PLAY THE UGLY MONSTER FACTION!
>>580885787Yeah I’m not playing this woke slop. Imagine how dogshit the new quest write will be
>>580885959>challengethey had a better product and blizzard knew it
i forgot that wow players were afraid of the rainbow
I told you about Classic+ and here we arehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CC8Cy9FDzLM
>>580885694Tell me when you think they did that, they haven't
>>580885519>those namesHalf tempted to play with roleplayers for the first time ever, just to have sensible names.I don't want to play along "Maintank Pov" or "Bearbear". Give me an actual person.Are roleplayers cringe?
>>580885787insane bait lmfao
>>580886037with gay slop like that at least 1 of the 1000 new quests will probably have you deliver a gay love letter to their boyfriend
>>580885412Yes. I want to fuck and be fucked by a Draenei female.
>>580885412No and I'm glad they aren't in the game. Never liked them and the males look like doofy retarded walking refrigerators.
>>580885735and thats a good thing
>>580885716very grim
>1 mega server>and you can't escapewhy
>>580885893>>580885951>>580886037You have to be trolling. There is no way you thought that was real.
>>580886075Turtle was worse than retailpure shit
>>580885725probably just reused assets from atal dazar
>>580885787>all those instant replies to ai slopproves there is a discord that just spams here 24/7
>>580885847going to name myself John Warcraft
>>580886098yes, of courseit's much worse nowadays too because they tend to be troons
>>580885547No spacegoats, only Broken Draenai and Eredar, fix the mistake you made blizzard
>8 months from now when we have 3 new classes and 4 new races>Ogres long since playable or planned for future release with the 8th new raid tier>doomtroons still spamming the thread daily2 more weeks
undead warrior time
>>580885787There's no fucking way they'll actually add that into the game...right?
>>580886075>betterNo.
>>580884972easy, skip ony
>>580886098>Are roleplayers cringe?PvPRP'ers are the biggest gigachads. Actual characters ranging from complete schizos to the biggest bro's you can find
ah yes, classic wowjust the way I remembered it
What if they add Ogres but make them beautiful?
>>580886194The Everlook 24/7 broadcast radio alone had more soul that anything made by Nu-Blizzard in the recent year
>>580885940>hot streak pyrothey don't. it only stacks to 75% CDR. i was punching holes in my drywall when i found out.
>no worlf buffs confirmedMYFUCKINGDICK
>>580885787bet he got told off by the staff for showing that
>>580886315is that the insecure reddit man?
>>580885280>I think it's dumb on the basis that we're inevitably going to go to Silvermoon and they won't be able to sell Blood Elves proper.>Not only is it lazy as fuck, it's counterintuitiveIt's dumber than that.By leading off with the Belf model recolor, they've preemptively killed sales for anything else they might try to add.You'll get some Draenei when they inevitably make up some new bs faction of Draenei with a reskin, but then what?Ain't no Goblins, Ogres, Worgen, or whatever the fuck else gonna sell like the Belf reskin, and the Belf reskin being out sooner just means less incentive.
why are streamers just leveling in the same zones and doing the same dungeons? can you fucks actually get past level 10 and go to new zones
>>580885787>>580886203>>580886190>>580886037either actual fat retards, thirdies, discord pvpers, or pserver jeets absolutely seething.plooschads we won... we won....
>>580886217That's my fear, that they'll either be schizos, edgelords, or (more likely than anything) furry erpersJust wanna chill with cool people and settle into the virtual world a little...
>>580886315Where in the title of World of Warcraft: Forever does it mention "Classic"?
>>580886098rp-pvp was the best realm in classic
I just noticed that femsaken appear to have the fucked up floating shoulder model placement from retail, even on the old classic modelsfucking ruined
>>580886315Why is the UI that colour?
whens the next deep dive? that guy said there are 4 today
>questie:o>built-in questie:/
The fact that they didn't make ogres a playable race just confirms they have no idea what players actually want, and they'll fail to deliver the Classic WoW we're all expecting.
ogres but they're just male roegadyn from ffxiv
>>580886374that's still a 1s pyro cast isn't it? it's not TOO bad
>>580885787hi goth
>>580886375>no world buffs>instead you need to sit in a tent for 10m to get your mandatory strength buff
>>580886375where?
So are they making an RP-PVP server? The anniversary one got immediately ruined by niggergold making on it
>>580886227>Ogres long since playable or planned for future release with the 8th new raid tierThe last time blizzard made a new model for a playable race was in mop. Anything new we get will be reskins. Now was the time to give us something new and they didn't do it, I genuinely don't think they know how to make a new race model anymore
>>580885787just link to the vod if this is real.
>What do you mean Classic plus is making changes?
>>580886241How? How can you retards possibly believe this is real?
>>580886037>>580886124100% you're gonna get pronouned and a bunch of the clearly female models will actually be "trans women" who you can still call she/her like an actual woman, but they will persistently remind you that they are in fact male
>>580885787its fake but lmfao the fact its so convincing with blizzards track record shows how bad it could get quickly
>>580886075i despise you private server trannies holy fuck you are so brown and poor
>>580886375source?
>>580886359we get it, you cut your dick off
>>580884757But most of this stuff isn’t in forever
>>580886531Ogres are already in the game same as the elves we're getting.???????????????????????????????????????????????
>>580886375Just let them persist through death. There. Now people don't have a nervous breakdown when they lose their buffs on a bad pull
>mounts!>mogs!>cheevos!yeah, you're totally not playing retail anon
>>580884642>You're still playing it.Nah, I'll never give money to Blizzard again.
>>580885345>force youthe way you losers have placed the value of your lives into the whims of a corporation is hystericalplease get some perspective, i promise it'll do you well
>>580886603world buffs exist but they don't work in dungeons, only outside in the world.
NO NO NON ONONOTURTLE WAS DIFFERENT ASCENSION WAS DIFFERENTTHOSE CHANGES WERE GOODFUCK BLIZZARD FUCK YOU BLIZZARD FUCK YOU SHILLS REEEE#NOCHANGES
>>580886549Because I do not trust blizzard at all
>>580886592It's not convincing. Just a bunch of salty discord troons trying to shit up the thread.
>>580886506i'd rather have this shit than FOMO of losing the world buffs
>>580886664yet you're here seething that blizzard delivered what people asked for instead of playing in your tranny ERP /wpsg/ clique
>>580886530THERE ARE NO SERVERS
>>580886636Doesn't make world buffs any less gay.
>>580886592it's so sad that they spend their meager incomes on making AIslop from their jeetdroids. and we're just getting started with this.
>>580886583i just love how much people are coping that blizzard wont add shit like that. in dragonflight you had to deliver gay letters back and forth between two gay centaurs
>>580886592>the fact its so convincing with blizzards track recordyou're a low IQ retard if you think that's convincing
>>580886315>re-release Retail>call it "Classic">Classic players immediately get over their irrational fear of Retail (because it no longer has the word associated with it) and play itLmao
>>580886650What did he mean by this
>>580886704Yea but like who said that
>do you want to : turn on an option that makes you mad, you fucking autist?>"yes">"wtf I'm mad"
>add tons of slop to classic that no one asked for What did Blizzard mean by this?
>>580885874They didn't want to repeat Dota-LoL situation
>>580886784i remember seeing a screenshot of savix picking between PVE, RP, PVP and Hardcore little nigga
>>580886650The shop page mentions housing stuff as well
>>580886529>>580886603https://www.twitch.tv/savix/clip/NastySillyWerewolfCclamChamp-V04O2vDDSTTAnULX
>>580886629Agres can't wear all the gear or do all the animations players can, and there are no female ogres. An ogre race would have to be entirely new assets and then only 1% of the players would play them because nobody wants to be a fat retarded ogre
>>580885787>>580886592>>580886718The not-convincing element of it was that the horse was too white and not rainbow enough. That's way too subtle for the modern west.
>>580886819>>580886650>average mindbroken brown private server serf
>>580886629They can't wear armor though, when people say they want ogres they don't mean they want to just play as the ogre models we have in game currently, they want an actual playable ogre race that's equal to the other playable races.
>>580886592>The fact I fell for it means that I'm right, actually!No nigger you're retarded
Can PvP and PvE group together? If not they should
>>580885787no. fucking. way.
>>580886819Threads are hitting bump limit super fast because a group of discord troons are going through a list just posting the exact same shit in every fucking thread.
>>580886506Group resting next to the campfire prior to a big encounter sounds peak
>>580886825Some fag on stage at blizzcon.It's confirmed world buffs are dead for raids already
>>580886315
>>580885615so what's the problem with getting 99% of the content for free and just sticking with the races you're used to?
>>580886531Kul'Tiras and Drachtyrs are new models from after MOP. Yes they are utter shit, but still
>>580886636World buffs boost the whole raid by a full raid gear tier. Pre-bis + world buffs means you're clearing MC in t2. That's how you end up with stacking 2 dozen fury warriors and players running out of stuff to do 1 week after a content patch.
Why are all the streamers at Blizzcon completely retarded and act like their brains have been permanently damaged from weed addiction?
What are these AI slop looking alien plant texture models in the stv dungeon?
seems like a major missed opportunity to not allow sky elves to be priests. obviously a big part of including sky elves in the first place was to give foids a pretty dress up doll, but foids also love playing priest healers probably more than anything else. and I don't see any reason why they couldn't be priests, maybe they didn't want to come up with even more priest racial spells?
>>580886819I think this might be the kpop poster. he's been gone since wowcg was abolustely mogged on, destroyed, spat on, blown to smithereens etc etc. his final cope
>>580886856there are NO realms.you WILL PLAY ON A STREAMER SERVER.
>>580884757>I posted it again!So based my frogposting brother, heres some karma.
>blizzard dumbed down the game even more>added sod buffs to characters>still screeching over unnecessary world buffslol mazies
>>580886975i watched all the wow stuffthey never mentioned world buffs
>>580886194>>580886242blizzshart could never ever
>>580886636No they're cancer and make the devs balance around them.
>>580886856There will be pvp, pve, rp and HC mega servers. Just one delusional privatetroon keeps spamming otherwise.
>"i was thinking about this for hunter...">paladin dev: "WHATEVER! Serpent sting. Melee. MOVING ON!"
>>580887034It's the nudevs trying to recreate the low poly look of vanilla but having zero idea how.
>>580887034Those are from vanilla buddy
>>580886819lmao these pserver cucks are pathetic
>>580887032To be invited at modern Blizzcon you must be the most tamed, castrated, corporate-alligned stramer aviable on the web
>>580876640>Retail getting moggedThe era of vertical progression is finally fucking over. People are so sick of the ever-increasing level cap and finally realized their lizard brains receiving a dopamine hit isn't worth all the drawbacks.Congratulations assholes, it only took you 22 god damn years. 27 total if we're counting Everquest.
>>580886990Kul'tirans are modified pandas, Dracthyr can't wear armor, they're the equivalent of an npc model not a new playable race
>>580887034>>580887147You guys are so far gone you're criticizing content from vanilla thinking you're on to something
>>580886629they're gaslighting you saying it's impossible to shrink an in game ogre model to just about tauren size, they've been having a six hour meltdown because they want their furfaggot fetish races in first so they can turn the general into the same in your face fetish circlejerkfest avatarfagging spam as /wowg/
>>5808853040.9% is such a weird percentage, why not just 1% like everything else?
>>580887080STOP. I already want to play. Stop making it sound even better.
>>580886315>the whole reason wow camelot exists is to try to psychologically condition classic players into accepting retailslop
>no rppvp serverit's over, isn't it?
>>580887146>play Aggrend's paladin power fantasy>get mad that paladins are the hero class
>>580887147>>580887151Are they something that used to be under water in vanilla but they’ve moved them onto the surface or something?
>>580885547>the burning legion lore has to expand somehow at some point as well.no it doesn't, it's a different timeline
>>580887249Those lego bushes are NOT in vanilla.
>>580887039They know skelves will already be on day 1 the most played race on the Horde. Allowing them to also have popular classes like mages or priests would had been just a straight overkill
>>580886530I doubt streamers will go pvp.They burned their hand on the stove last time because Blizzard wasn't able to make good on their promise of 24/7 GM protection, remember Asmon getting chain ganked by Advertise?They'll probably all go RP servers this time around so that they can all name their characters John Twitchtv
>>580887297RP-PvP did so poorly on Anniversary that it was instantly converted to a PvP server. Feels bad man. You'd think with a single shard architecture we'd get that ruleset to round things out.
>>580887191Everybody watching the trailer to laugh at classibucks.Everybody is talking about how bad it looks and how stupid "sky elves" are.WoW: Forever is gearing up to be the next concord.
is last name accountwide like in swtor?
>>580887137mega server*not mega serverS
>dude why is the class the majority of the playerbase plays strong????>why isnt WOYER pumping like in vanilla????
Mongoose strike is a a dodge only ability? How will survival hunter work in group content?
>>580887352Yes they are retard
>>580885185He's right you know, Blizz has to be 90% estrogen at this point and they need to make everything generic and cozy.
>>580887350yeah but the burning legion was a giant part of the lore since wc1. it could be different of course but to not include draenei would be something
>Private server discord raiding the threads on /v/ and /vg/ for 3 days now since blizzard shut them downLMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>580887352They are.
>ding lvl 10 >already have a blue weapon from "epic savior of elwynn forest" quest where you defeat hogger after a cutscene >turn in quests for 10 000xp >you now have perfect str+sta gear from all the welfare gear you're showered with >nothing can kill you >you kill everything in 5 sec >see another player with their retarded tent >no point stopping by to get buffs since you are already killing everything in 5 sec >game prompts you to turn on level scaling once you are getting green lvl quests >get mount at lvl 15 >all the quest rewards scale up >you're now lvl 28 in westfall, riding a spectral raptor mount some youtube guide told everyone to get >/4 "LF2M SM SPELLCLEAVE, GOING NOW, BIG PUMPER GROUP" >group of 5 sky elf bots runs past you and then phases into another layer >you now have mostly blue gear, including one epic item from the lvl 30 quest >gameplay consists of running to the quest zone, pulling the entire screen and killing it in 4 globals, then running back on your 100% mount >at lvl 55, you have just finished STV, you do one BRD xp run and you hit 60 >now do it all over again, except this time you have 5% faster movement speed when dead and rested xp generation we're going home...
>>580887413Nah it's per character.
>>580887420I think it means that dodging just gives you a free one
>>580886987The problem would arise if they make the new races OP, or start locking new classes behind paywalls as well.
>>580886497it's not the same. i realize that crit is rare in classic but i find it hard to believe that they couldn't make instant pyro work. i don't even play a mage but i think thematically, hot streak instant pyro is probably one of the best specs in the game. is 1.25 second cast time "ok"? yeah but it feels incredible when your pyro crits, and you fire blast to guarantee a second crit, and then send out another instant pyro in like two GCDs. it feels awesome.i'd totally missed out on that until i tried it in sod and it fuckin rocks.
>>580887420read expose prey
>>580887074yeah he never has any real arguments just>le smug reaction maymay image>do u really????while they seethe nonstop
GIVE ME HARDCORE RP ALREADYYYYY
>>580887414kys retard
>>580887406Even has more views than the Diablo 5 announcement. There's a real possibility Forever does better than retail long-term just like OSRS is more popular than Runescape. Why wouldn't this be? This is the 'reset' everyone wanted, with a perpetual level 60 cap. This seems like a slam dunk to me.>>580887413>>580887553last name optional?
um anons? check xaryus stream hes in the riverglades zone and this quest just came up
>>580886783Blizz was shit for the most part ever since Cata, it's like watching a derailing train.Likewise, it's funny that all the anons who claimed that classic+ servers were shit suddenly flock around the idea of paying for virtually the same experience, only this time with paywalled races and shit. It's exactly the same thing that happened with vanilla servers years ago.
odds on finding a gf (female) as a femgnome priest
>>580887563>start locking new classes behind paywalls as well.they will.you already gave them the benefit of the doubt with the race shit, they will sell you classes
>>580887378all i remember is mob kiting getting gutted because a few people were dragging high level elites over to streamers to get them killed
>>580887454>it could be different of course but to not include draenei would be somethingIt would be perfectly fine and in fact ideal. TBC draenei have always been aggravated lore rape and the game will be better without them. I know you like jerking off to them but fortunately there remains a plethora of draenei porn for you to jerk off to instead.And the burning legion story most definitely does not have to progress. Somehow you guys always forget that vanilla wow takes place 4 years after WC3. If the legion and the scourge or whatever else MUST be an imminent threat then what were they doing for those 4 years?
>>580887563>or start locking new classes behind paywalls as well.Cmon anon, that's too slippery a slope!...They'll make paywall Specs first.
>no world buffs in raidsretail plooshttps://www.twitch.tv/savix/clip/NastySillyWerewolfCclamChamp-V04O2vDDSTTAnULX?range=7d
blizzard is removing crit so balancing is easier and parsetroons cant flex their rng string of crits was skill
>>580887653>last name optional?You have to have one but can toggle them off.
>>580887673> odds on finding a gf (female)With no Y chromosome?0%
>>580886819why would he do this for free, tho
>>580886009the cost of reagents eventually becomes trivialized over time, this really doesn't matter in the long run
I have PVMPED it to Holly wearing a lingerie version of her feather dress I was so excited after the panels yesterday.
>>580887741World buffs were absolute garbage
>>5808876091 mega server per ruleset
>>580887741world buffs was fucking aidsjust pop an elixir and lets fucking go
>>580887668>it's actually gay centaurs
In time you will learn that Forever is Retail - slop and not Classic +It will take some time but we will eventually have that discussion.
>>580887191>vertical>horizontalyou fell for a marketer meme, it's all still the same progression. the endgame progression is to raidlog and parse.
>>580887741thank fuck
>>580886592it's not convincing at all, private server chuds are just reactionary retards who don't appreciate anything and are looking for any excuse to hate this game
>>580887741>actually, buffs that make you do more damage in pre-raid BiS than your would without them in full T3 is SOVLFVLVanillakeks are too fucking funny. Forever isn't for you, nigger. Play era.
>before>you have to pay $60 on top of subscription to even play the game at all, including the new race>now>you can play the game just with subscription, optional $30 purchase for new race>doomtrannies desperately trying to convince everyone this is somehow worse
>>580887673if you're the healer you're not meeting biofems. Swap to tanking
>>580887780This might be hard for some of you to believe... but some peoples lives and jobs were playing wow and private server boosting + retail/era boosting gold selling and cheating are how millions of third worlders feed thesmelves.
>>580887808god i wish i could offer holly a foot massage after a long day at blizzcon i bet she has some nice mature meaty soles
A BRAND NEW ANNOUNCEMENT EVERYONE HAS BEEN WAITING FOR AND WE'RE JUST BARELY FASTER THAN XIVG DURING A DEAD PERIODWHY ARE SO WE MUCH SLOWER THAN THEMWHY IS THEIR GAME SO MUCH MORE POPULAR THAN OURSWHY ARE WE SUCH FUCKING LOSERS
>>580887741wb were cancer and the FOMO was too biggood
>>580887741Thank god.
>>580887668This is a Dragonflight screenshot. Nice try though.
>>580888004the honeymoon period is already over
>/wowg/ such dogshit the trannies that ruined their own general there immediately came to this one and started spamming the same garbageI hate to break it to you "people" but this game isn't for you.
>>580887668>Open xaryus stream>Is tanking>Bops himself rather than the dps>Mana pots when at full mana instead of health potting>Wipes his dungeonStreamers are somehow worse than you fags at this game
how are the /wowg/ toilets coping right now?
>>580887985>dont want to play new races>dont buy it>turn off nugraphics>comes with my 15$ subyeah doomtroons are desperate as fuck to downplay this as a negative most of the changes were good
>>580887990healer foids love men who play healers they feel more comfortable around them than ugly tank moids and autistic retarded dps
I didnt expect anything and now Im hyped. see you all in 7 weeks.
SHADOW PRIEST NIGGAS HOW WE FEELING
>>580887935>In time you will learn that Forever is Retail - slop and not Classic +na.forever is SoD+
>>580887951Except they promised to never raise the cap so the endgame is sustainable, unlike retail, which abandons previous content as soon as new content comes out.
>>580888062>mogs, mounts, cheevossounds like it is for me
>>580888062? wow forever is for retail players
>>580887741i hate to say it, but this change might actually make me want to play the game
>>580887985>xhe thinks the paywall is going to stop at races and not extend into classes and content>instead of $60 it will now be four separate $30 purchases, at least two of which will be mandatory for gameplay
>>580888062Who is it for? I still can't tell
>>580887741thats fucking bullshit manall the people replying to yoru post are absolute gigafaggots besides me
>>580887708you're right anon... my cooming must not get in the way of a good game.the burning legion has to progress in some way. I don't think that should involve the players defeating sargeras but more nathrezim involvement (since they're a huge part of vanilla lore with the scarlet crusade, illidan, one being with sylvanas) and their influence is felt all over azeroth already.
>>580888136It comes with my 15$ paypiggie sub to retail so I literally gained a new version of vaniller for free. I won
>>580887935You retards said SoD was retail- too. No one takes you seriously anymore.
>>580888151No mana battery and aoe looks shitBut overall goodLaughing at mages
why did they do it?
>>580888136by posting goon ai shit here praying someone will respond to them so they dont have to samefag
>>580888151Priest chads eating BIGLYDisc is fixed and Shadow is fixed. we WON.
>>580887990i hate t-tanking it makes me uncomfortable.
>>580888263>B-B-B-B-B-BUT SOD HAD CRUSADER STRIKE! THATS A RETAIL ABILITY!!!!!1
>>580888137>>dont want to play new races>>dont buy it>>turn off nugraphicswho's going to tell him
>>580885021Except for most of it
what do you mean they're making changes and stuff isn't finalizedTHE AGENDA MUST BE FUCKING MAINTAINED THINK OF MY GOLD STOCKS IN TBC
>>580887668this is from Dragonflight, keep trying though. mentally ill pserver faggot
>>580888289so they can make new gloves for warriors and enhance shamans that people will actually use
Think forever will have a shortage of tanks? kinda thinking undead pally or something.
>>580887985>I enjoy the future of Blizzard carving up content and selling it to me in small increments that will cost me more overallYou people really are goycattle
>>580888289>mail>44who is this for?
>>580888289Because shit was busted and they wanted to add a little more decision-making into the gearing processI assume
>>580888154>removed the good parts of sod>somehow this is plooos
>WoW Forever is not SoD 2
POST THE FAT DEVS WORKING ON IT KEK
>>580885185CRYBOOMER
>>580888332how'd they fix shadow
>>580888420>I enjoy the future of Blizzard carving up content and selling it to me in small increments that will cost me more overall>You people really are goycattleBased Noticer
>>580888145Funnily enough this is kind of true. If you're in a mediocre guild as the best healer, all the women healers will look up to you and DM you every day asking for tips, and eventually will trauma dump out of nowhere. This allows you to swoop in and be the knight in shining armor and give them tips on life improvement (all while they're fucking behind your back). God I miss the good old days...
>>580888415you can dual spec so paladins will likely be the most played class. they are op in everything
>>580888415theres always a tank short because noone wants to do that shit over pumping meters
>>580888263>>580888263>You retards said SoD was retail- too.that's an accurate statement>>580888350you had warlocks at lvl 1 with metamorphosis
>>580888378>actually fell for it omegakek
>>580888446>asmontard
>>580888426Shaman, huntards and warrior?
>>580888352who is going to tell you retarded faggot you can turn these things off + addons?kill yourself agendafaggot
>>580885185Why is unc complaining about the cinematic for 20 minutes like it did not perfectly depict what "WoW:Forever" actually is.
>forever>they actually mean 1-2 years
>>580888475NTA, but TBC gameplay (the peak of the spec) and maga issues massively ameliorated. Shadow won fucking hard.
>>580888527Holy looked awfulLiterally who asked for that
>>580888630but enough about your peeserver
>>580887985you can just ignore it you knowi'm just having a laugh at people who can't help themselves but run defense for the billion dollar companyi already piggied uplmao @ u
>>580885185Ugh... Hes right you know
sohow many humans are gonna run around with the name chadhow is this going to hurt the horde's numbers now that not everyone can really think up names like Rijin Beastbreakerare we really going to have orcs named Duncan Byron?
>want to play prot paladin>everyone and their dog will play paladinughhhhh
private server trannies raiding the general because they cant pay rent when blizzard shut off the gold botfarm they ran
>the retailkek is afraid
>>580888579>you can turn these things off oh you poor, poor summer childjust wait until you learn
>>580888630you private server fellas have been crashing out all day it's so funny
peeserver cucks are absolutely seething in this thread
so what the hell do we do for 7 weeks?
>>580888689>Rijin Beastbreakermore like Bigx Pumper
>>580888035can't believe you figured it out. pretty much a genius
>open stream>it's just devs playing fucking DnDIs this peak narcism? Why would anyone want to watch that?
>>580888289it was +7 to weapon skill in niller right?
>>580888665>maga issuesso they removed drumpf? LMAO gottem
What's horizontal progression? Everyone keeps saying it all of a sudden, and I have no idea what it means
>>580887080This is actually great, i can play with the yanks instead of being forced to deal with arrogant french fags, germans speaking in the ubermetsch and romanians that go for smoke breaks every 10 mins.
>>5808886711 year is a long time for a pserver lmao.CoA the supposed biggest best server of all time lasted literally 2 months after dutch immediately caved to pressure from blizz.
>>580888771beta next week for 7 weeks
>>580888828>narcism
>>580887985>before>you have to pay $60 on top of subscription to even play the game at all, including the new race>nowactually before i could play twow for free, and receive more content.
What will the forever guild be called
>>580888630just like your trash private server
your updated graphics, sir
>>580888828at least they're not fat shitskins
https://www.twitch.tv/shadowbunnix https://www.twitch.tv/shadowbunnixhttps://www.twitch.tv/shadowbunnixARE WE GOONING FOREVER FOR CLASSIC FOREVER?
>>580888771I'm playing Mass Effect trilogy
>>580888725Retoilets are the target audience of forever.
>>580888771play classic until thursday -> beta until it goes down -> play classic until forever's release
>>580888867based, I will enjoy playing with you BRITS
>>580888867its per region dumb nigger, you can either play with spics & yanks or yuros
>>580888906Type B
>>580888917wowpsg is that way anonwait no saar it's dead HAHAHAwait no let me say it how you can understand JAJAJAJ
>log into TBC anni>entire server is shitting themselves>whole guild already /uninstalled in prep for abandoning era/anni for classic+>economy destroyed>every rogue weeping since guild died no glaiveshaven't seen private server melties like this since 2019
>>580888851Fucking KEK. My phone corrected mana to manga and I meant to delete the G.
>>580888771i'm going to raid log in toilet, might buy the beta idki'm a big fag and want to play the sexo elves so i might end up getting the beta edition toowho knows?
>>580887080This hasn't been confirmed. Names are unique for each region.
>>580888878>burning yourself out on the betayou guys won't really do this will you?
>>580888180>Except they promised to never raise the cap so the endgame is sustainable, unlike retail, which abandons previous content as soon as new content comes out.People don't realize how big this is going to be. This is going to win tons of people over as the aging population doesn't have time to go through the same progression curve over and over and over again.
>>580888145i see your pointyeah i'll probably just do healer again fuck it maybe i get lucky
>>580888906Forever Not A Woman
>>580888902>actually before i could play twow for free, and receive more content.you always knew there was a risk of losing access to that because it's blatant copyright infringement. i bet you think drug dealers are just free thinkers
You don't need to pay thirty dollars for Skybourne, retoilet You just need to go home retoilet and play Skybourne at home on retail, they're called blood elves and void elves
Is there a lower place in gaming than the official WoW forums? for years every time I visit there are always a few people just DESPERATE to defend blizzard and their choices
This is important. Will they be banning GDKP in Forever? All that does is encourage gold buying and the server flooded with bots farming gold to sell.
>>580886592>its fake but the fact that I am a retard and fell for obvious bait is actually Blizzard's fault
>>580888867Sorry cousin it's region locked. We already kick beans in NA servers though even the cucknadians hate them for being shitters and ESL key-bricking raid-wiping spergs
>wbuff meta dead and gone forevermassive Wparsetrannies go rope
>>580888984>private server melties>tbc anniFRIENDLY FIRE FRIENDLY FIRE! SIS NOOOO!!!
>>580886819bluds been making that post since wotlk classic lmao
>>580888925based goon anon from wowcg? welcome back
>>580889096lmao
i can't decide if i want to be a resto druid or a disc priest. power word shield and penance are my niggas but wild growth is nuts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_89KfZyZgukbros... Nixxiom is PISSED...
>>580887985everything in classic was free with the sub shill, including the race
>>580888415>>580888527>>580888667there will still be a shortage because paladins will still go retardinsthey will be the new warriors rolling on fucking EVERYTHING
>>580888906Forever Young
>>580888861Vertical is like wow always was. New content gear makes old content gear obsolete.Horizontal should be focused on sidegrades, or gear that is best for specific content. In theory
>>580888917hey you know you can turn that off and he said specifically it was tuned to a certain time of day + fog effect for dramatic shows and it doesn't actually look like this?
>>580889082dismantle their arguments if you're so tough
>>580888974>>580889106ill just make my character with a US subscription, im done dealing with euro anons
>>580889148>will still go retardinsRetardins HATE twisting.I think you vastly overestimate how popular paladins are going to be
>>580889140I'm not watching this red in the face retarded faggot and neither should anyone else.
>>580889082btw, this is the OP:>Biggest money grab I ever saw. Imagine making people pay for a race in WOW.>What’s next, paying real money for every flight path you take in game???and the entire thread is calling him a "notorious ragebaiter" lmao
>>580888861The ideal concept of it is that you have a wide range of progression options that are not necessarily better than the others to obtain in whatever method you want on your own time, instead of an endless gear treadmill where you only gain ever more powerful versions of essentially the same items. The best extant example is OSRS, there are a multitude of endgame gearsets that all have some kind of niche that take a lot of effort to obtain from a wide variety of tasks that you can tackle in an equally wide variety of paths.Whether blizzard can actually pull it off is a different question entirely.
>>580889082every time I visit official wow forums I remind myself that the rock bottom still has a cellar
>>580888984S to spit on all the TBCCA cucks that won't get glaives now
>>580889054>you always knew there was a risk of losing access to that just like you can "lose access" to blizzard's classic experiences. SoD is dead and there is no word on what will happen wtih MoP/era characters.
World of Warcraft is back
>>580889082That person is correct, anon. Even as someone who's annoyed as fuck that I fact to pay for sex elves, it is objectively not that big of a deal.
>>580889246theres no twisting now though
>>580889082Official forums are entertainment at best. It will always be filled with either bootlickers or browns doing "why I can see if it invincible?" but unironically.
>>580889082Its the worst place I remember ever going.The dicksucking in that place puts reddit to shame
>>580889096>Banning GDKPThere's like at least a dozen groups still doing GDKPs in TBC though. I made 210k through it since naxx.
>>580889239how will you handle raid times being fucked
>>580888218>>580888420>making up hypotheticals to get mad at
>>580889281>SoD is deadThe season ended. That's how seasons work. Everyone knew that going in, hell we even knew it was a Classic+ testbed.
>>580889082>>580889260I think we can see from the lack of pushback to paywalling a PALETTE SWAP shamelessly that all the "hyped" wowbabs are Mazed hard.
How are schizo incel NEETs living in their basements in the former USSR living on 30 cents a day able to make better classic servers than a multi billion dollar company like blizzard?
all this wow talk has me itching to resub and load up a HC character
I will personally punish paladin players by corpse camping them until they-- oh it bubbled and hearthed away
>>580889419it's real in their minds
>Open wowhead>Computer instantly freezeshuh??
>>580889096Of course not. Blizzard will be adding the token to forever. GDKP will make them tons of money.
should i paypig for the beta or just wait for nov 4th
>>580888180This little nibbla actually thinks he'll be able to find launch raid groups 6 months down the line
>>580889445That's easy, they don't.
>>580888902More content?Like Gillijim and Lapidis Isle?That was hecking epic stuff am I right.
>>580889246They specifically put Holy Shock at 21 points in the Holy tree so people who don't like twisting can take it instead. I imagine the vast majority of them will.
>>580889096
>>580888218>and not extend into classes and contentThat's still like paid expansions, retard.
>>580889154Three things work against horizontal progression in this game. The last of flexibility in builds to justify side pieces existing, the lack of bag space when factoring in needed consumables, and the inability to swap gear in combat. I'm eager to see how Blizzard address this
>>580889445They aren't.
>>580889445evil cannot create. it can only corrupt
Retail chad hereWill Forever be a pug friendly game or will I be forced to join a tranny guild and do tranny discord with them?
>trannies cry about having to collect wbuffs>blizzard caves and gives into trannies>now it will be extremely rare to ever get buffs on your alts for leveling which makes the experience 10x as fun vs natty leveling thats not even speaking of how fun they are in raids, and how much content they are literally just deleting so trannies can raid logfucking awful decision
>>580889419>making up hypotheticals to get mad atA few days ago saying blizz will charge $30 for a belf reskin for "classic" would've been a hypothetical. Do you want to slurp that shekel coated corporate cock any deeper?
>>580889082>It's ok for them to take more of my money because they haven't taken more of my money alreadyHow does that even make any sense?
>>580889617>>trannies cry about having to collect wbuffslmao shut up retard
>>580889440>the lack of pushback to paywalling a PALETTE SWAPI remember when they added the boost to TBC classic and people didn't pushback and actually defended Blizzard. Then eventually they added Tokens.Next will be Paid Classes, this is the precedent the locked race stuff sets.
>>580889538I can find raid groups for Guild Wars 2 and Elder Scrolls Online vanilla content. Both horizontal games.Go find a Molten Core group in retail. Assuming you even need one with all the fucking power creep added over the past 22 years.
>>580889445>steal game>run it through shit emulator on a potato server that crashes if the player count ever hits double digitsSo fucking kino bro. So much better am I right fellow white people?
>>580889268>Whether blizzard can actually pull it off is a different question entirely.they can't. it will be some nothingburger itemization like "51 AP when fighting in a forest", and people will just look at it the same way as those random "50 AP when fighting beasts" shit items in nilla
Why are there no new systems? Having a bunch of ai-generated dungeons with zero mechanics doesn't really sound like enough to try the game out for.
>>580889598>the lack of bag space when factoring in needed consumablesnigger what, how many consumables are you using?
POST THE FAT WOMAN DEVS OF WOW LMAO
>>580888527what is dual spec? I am newfag
>no gdkpfuck, i'm gonna have to make a chud guild
We won so hard.
>ony and hyjal for 6 months>no world buffs>gdkp banned>crit removedits over
>>580889609It's Vanilla. If you start play on day 2, you will be already forever behind the curve. If you dont play to nolife the game right on launch, dont even bother play
>>580886592It's only convincing if you really think mounts will be able too be rode at level 1
>>580889734>why didn't they add bloat?
>>580889512Check your adblock logs. It's literally fighting against 3digit number of ads and shit that steals your data every time you open wowhead.
>>580889571Big W for Blizzard. It shows they care about the longevity of the game.
I'm joining Asmongold's guild
>>580889734but enough about your favorite peeserver
>>580889194>>580889290The point is that this will lead the game to be a cash shop nightmare. Imagine a future where, years down the line, there are like 10-20 races on the cash shop each costing $30. While Skyborne may not be P2W now, there will inevitably be one race that will have some sort of unintended advantage. This is not meant to be seasonal, this is supposed to live on "forever". Is this really the precedent to set right out of the gate? To basically replace the cost of expansions with a reskinned elf?
I'll be playing an Undead Paladin. Why?They'll be the most OP simply because Blizzard made the most changes to them. The new dev team has no idea how to balance anything, so the chances of them accidentally breaking something are basically guaranteed.
>>580889609no gdkp so ya you could pug but its going to be a bad experience>>580889675kys tranny
>>580889709>I remember when they added the boost to TBC classic and people didn't pushback and actually defended Blizzard. Then eventually they added Tokens.>Next will be Paid Classes, this is the precedent the locked race stuff sets.Yep, no pushback and they'll keep on the slippery slope.These are the people that made Diablo Immortal, after all, the single most monetarily predatory game in history by magnitudes.I bet they'll even defend paid specs, paid classes, p2w loot tokens...
>>580889725>"51 AP when fighting in a forest"That would in effect be similar to the OSRS situation, just more thematically contrived. Certain gearsets optimized for certain bosses.
>>580889781Bro you're supposed to sit at the campsite and like SOCIALIZE broThat's the game nowWhy are you playing an MMO if you don't like other people
>>580888771play the new valheim 1.0 update.
>>580889781just say you hate vanilla
>>580889571B-B-B-B-BASED
>>580889835Enjoy being relegated to one of the satellite Olympus guilds that Asmongold will ignore.
how does wpvp work in forever? is it warmode queer shit?
>>580889571Between GDKP being banned and the horizontal progression, it seems like Blizzard finally understands what it means to make a sustainable MMORPG. Only took them 22 years.
you won't need gdkp because the raids will be 10/20.40 man is being removed instantly nobody wants that shit. Retail chad players will make sure of it.
>>580890018warmode
>>580889781>>crit removedwtf are you talking about retard
>>580889709this is why forever will never work long-term. they are part of a public company, they will always be incentivized to push for this nickle-and-dimeing bs as long as they have people that will defend it. I think their hope is that it will take years to be ran into the ground so they can at least milk it for a while longer
>>580889512
>troondles will pretend some blue blood elves are the end of the world but will claim this was just fine, a true warcraft experience
Remember when they banned GDKP for Anniversary? And it caused hyper inflation because bots were still farming millions of gold?Maybe they should deal with the source of the problem!
I've yet to see a single complaint that isn't just somebodies opinion about how (they) think it should be done and only quoting private servers (p2w scams that used AI) as
>>580890036It's going to be different this time.
>>580890018Not spoonfeeding you. Should have watched the deep dive like everyone else.
>>580885185>first line of WoW forever trailer>"Our home"That's something what retail has done with Worldsoul saga, talking about home and family.Our home - Our gameYour classic is our retail now
>>580890018This guy is lying: >>580890069There is a PVP megaserver
Which version of classic to play?
>>580890018Basically. Instead of "warmode on" or "warmode off" it's "pvp mode", "pve mode" or "rp mode".
>why did they add faggot OC elves instead of high elves?Have people seriously not realized that the last 20 years of this game's population imbalances were caused by the Blood Elf model?Without exaggeration, since TBC a majority of this game's players have been blood elves. This is not hyperbole, its cold logical fact backed up with statistics. If they had given one faction blood/high elves and not the other then the opposite factions population would have been decimated before the game even went into beta.They created a neutral new race so they could give the blood elf models to both factions and as a way to have a 2nd race for druids on each faction since they're expanding the classes for other races. None of the Vanilla Alliance races, or high elves makes sense for druid. They could give it to Trolls but that would cause more imbalances between the factions This is why they did it. I'm not defending Skyfag elves but this was decision they needed to make for the health of the game because the playerbase has such colossally shit taste
>>580889598I suspect banks will get bigger for one.For some classes I can see reasons to have 6-7 different gear sets, but you would almost never carry more than 2 on you including your current equip. Maybe with a few extra flex piecesLike you arent going to carry resist sets with you everywhere.In vanilla on a hybrid class you could have a set for pvp, tanking, healing, dps, resistances x 3/4. Though many sets do share pieces
>>580890094lmfao
>>580889852We've always had to pay for new races, anon.
>>580889852>literally just make up some fake scenario and doom about itno thanks, i think i'll just take the product for what it is like any rational consumer would do
>>580890105AIEEEE YOU DONT UNDERSTAND PRIVATE SERVERS ARE LE GOOD CHANGES
>>580890018PvP server rules but Camps are sanctuary sites so everyone is gonna be using them as quick escape hatches while ganking.
>>580890113It literally is different this time.Elder Scrolls Online, Guild Wars, Guild Wars 2, Runescape are all much more sustainable games than games like WoW and Everquest ever were.Love it. Learning from the best games in the genre.
>>580889554i suspect you're just a shitposter, but no, on twow i did not have to tolerate retarded blizzdrone minmax culture, and there was a stronger sense of community in general because the minmaxers were contained on blizzard's official servers. now i'm expected to pay money to get a worse experience, and having to deal with a SIGNIFICANTLY worse community on top. it's a lose-lose no matter how you look at it. at least they managed to copypaste the survival feature from twow so that's at least 1 thing they managed to get right, because if there's one thing blizzard has always been it's stealing from other developers.
>retail mythic+ esport garbage on screen>viewers instantly dropForever is WoW2
the reality is most of these changes were overwhelmingly requested and private server loonies and turd worlders are not blizzard's audience
>>580890292>camps are sanctuary sitessource?
>>580890094they're not doing a very good joband this has to be old because the bird on the second bed was let go
>>580890395100%
>>580890202they could've just done pic related
>>580890094imagine the smell
>>580889921except in osrs you don't do real damage unless you are in the correct styleyou are straight up never selling that to the average wow player
>>580890395>overwhelmingly requestedlet's see it
>>580890365There are people actually mourning the death of Retail purely because the retarded esports class design and m+ shit won't be in Forever. Just think about that for a moment, it's unreal.
>Skyborne women are BVILT for _______
>>580890527>you are straight up never selling that to the average wow playerIdk, people say they want horizontal content. There are only so many ways you can do that.
>>580890202You typed all that without realizing that they EASILY could have given existing bloodelfs to both factions. The only reasons they didn't is so people could make black elfs and maybe they sniffed their farts enough that they had to make a unique new starting zone rather than overwrite the original tbc elf zones
well?
>>580890624Sneedvun
>>580890202>>580890471Why logic doesn't work here.
>>580890624TAURENED
>>580890471>guaranteed 80:20 Alliance:Horde ratioKill yourself.
>>580890105>kudgood taste.
>>580890094war room LMAO what they fighting, chromosomes?
>will of the forsaken nerfed
>>580890527>except in osrs you don't do real damage unless you are in the correct styleWhich is exactly what I said. If you have a beast boss then your gearset with +ap vs beasts will be top tier against specifically that boss. Which is effectively the same thing as an OSRS boss weak to crush where your crush gearset is top tier.
>>580890624trannies
Wowanda foreva
>>580890202Just remove female blood elfs, problem solvedWas it really that hard, the solution was sitting there staring you in the face The health of the game, must come first
>>580890708>guaranteed 80:20 Alliance:Horde ratioso? its all going to be one big realm anyway and horde can raid with alliance
>>580884528>payed dlc race>retail graphics and systems>no goblins or ogre race for the hordeYa no I'll check back in 10 years time maybe blizzard will finally get it right.
>>580890624My Skyborne is joining the horde fo sho
>>580885404Want to be my gf?
>>580889571lmao this fucking faggot
>>580890471For all the yapping people have done about orges, if they actually added them only like 5% of people would actually play them
>>580890676mega server removes this problem as hardcore factions will always have playersfactions matter because if you don't like who you're playing with, you can play the other
>>580890676Nothing is stopping him from making alt on different side.
>>580890403>source?i made it up
>>580890365>>580890597>the retarded esports class design and m+ shit won't be in Forever
>horizontal progressionlolits over for parsetrannies, now once you hit 60 oull be good enough and wont need to chase gear
>>580890624retail
>>580890036
>>580890741>top tiernoyou do not understandif you try to mage or range vardorvis, you will take 10 min per kill instead of 50sec> Which is effectively the same thing as an OSRS boss weak to crushno, unless they make even a lvl 10 elite have 500k hp and your "bear killing weapon" does 100k dps
>>580890783After 10 years, will (you) finally get it right?
>>580890548they did panels showing the polls and the polls have been public since 2 years ago SOD you fucking retard
>>580890878>5% of people would actually play themThat's way generous, try under 1%. The least popular retail races are in that range already.
>>580889781first three are brilliant and last one isn't true.
>>580889709Paid classes, paid professions, paid dungeons, paid character customization options, paid QoL changes like transportation across Azeroth. All defended by people saying "If you don't like it then don't buy it". I can't wait to see how this cash shop will look in a year.
>>580889571>wow classic command economy >GMs now decide what you're allowed to do with your own goldOYYY VEEEEY
>>580890915/kneel
>>580890847He's right you know.Most fun I've had in classic was blasting my GDKP alts through WotLK.
>>580890624my dick
are they running late with the forever presentation lol
>>580889082I remember having my post removed from the forums back in 2019 when they removed libram enchants from buff cap despite previously saying that it was consistent with their reference client for them to count towards the cap.The thread was not inflammatory or offensive in any way. It just said that this proved beyond a reasonable doubt that either the reference client didnt exist or it existed and blizzard didnt care to follow it and was just doing what they wanted. A similar change happened going into TBC with the engineering chicken btw. The thread got a moderate amount of attention and made it to like 10 pages of comments over a day before it got jannied.fuck that place
>>580890943I wonder what parsetrannies will figure out next to gatekeep players from raids and dungeons
>>580891041That's plainly false.
>>580890915wanna make out?
>>580888415>kinda thinking undead pally or something.horde will be 60% undead paladin, 30% blue elves, 10% zugs
does horizontal prog mean no more pve gear outdoing pvp gear in pvp
>>580891057>participating in GDKP ever
>wbuffs only work in the overworld>gdkp banned>megaserver but every language group gets its own shardclassic wow is healing
>>580886636Play hardcore retard
>>580891057Just do it in secret. And get banned like you fucking deserve.
I'm telling you niggers now.If those cunts at Blizzard removed Troll Priests Shadowguard ability I am going to be so fucking mad.And of course it's the ONLY priest race we don't yet know the spell for.It's fucking bullshit.I'm already so mad. Someone needs to tell those nigger streamers to fucking look at it.
>>580890661Doesn't solve the druid problem. That could have worked if they had the Alliance side elves be high elves and the horde aligned ones be blood elves. Make it like the Pandaren opening where the remnants of the high elves were divided on beliefs. Some wanted to stay with the Alliance, others were mad that the Alliance abandoned them during the scourge invasion The actual choice is high elf and goblins
>>580890878I'd rather play a game where ogres are an option and never play them than have gay blue elves locked behind a paywall
how long until they remove this toggle option because their cash shop transmog sets aren’t selling?Place your bets now
>>580891086yes
>>580889415find a guild that doesnt raid in the evening
STOP GETTING EXCITEDONLY MY ROMANIAN PRIVATE SERVER IS ALLOWED TO SELL ME CLASSIC+
>>580890847He's right though but he's also dumb because the thing about the GDKP 'ban' is that it's purely don't ask don't tell. All the major guilds will still do it. Nonissue.
>>580891049just play the game?
>>580891009>if you try to mage or range vardorvis, you will take 10 min per kill instead of 50secOk, now try a not retarded example like trying to kill him with a non-slash melee weapon. Obviously trying to kill a boss with something he has baked in hard counters to is idiotic.
>>580890943>now once you hit 60 oull be good enough and wont need to chase gear"deals 10% more damage in [new goyslop raid zone]""takes 10% less damage in [new goyslop raid zone]"It's the same treadmill but without the leveling part and them having to pretend to add new spells or animations. If anything, it's just cutting corners on their costs while you stay locked in the Maze.
>>580891014I wanted classic + not retail-lite
>>580890943You'll probably still need gear from the current raid to high parse in it. Like the new raid would drop relevant resistance gear that lets you parse higher in that raid. You'd still do about the same dps as in your other raid gear, but without the good resistance gear youll lose dps being forced to use dungeon gear to get those resists.Just a spitball
>>580890778>so? its all going to be one big realm anyway and horde can raid with allianceno they can't
>>580891268blizzard were NEVER going to make classic+
>>580885185skimmed through this and he's really complaining about the cinematic for 20+ minutes, jesus christ
>>580891045SOMEONE TELL ME WHY IS RETAIL ALLOWED TO ADD <1% PLAYED RACES NOBODY LIKES BUT FOR CLASSIC+ WE CAN'T HAVE OGRES OR NAGA? WELL?
Death knights? any info? death knights on release?
>>580890778why lie like a retard
>>580891367no
>>580891258That would still be better than invalidating LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE BIT OF CONTENT EVER RELEASED before X expansion
>>580890929It won't ever be anywhere near what it is in retail, no. It just wouldn't ever go that far. Go watch gameplay of a retoilet class in 2026. That shit is never seeing the light of day in Forever, sorry.
>>580890471>>580890878>>580891045Ogres would obsolete and kill TaurenAll the sizefagging, or more, none of the furfaggotryAlso should canonically have Rogues like Dagg, the Ogre Rogue, something Taurens were eternally denied.
>>580891121OCE players wont even get their own shard I bet
>>580891057cringe
reports coming out of blizzcon are very encouraging >I played the hell out of 'Classic Plus' Forever today while at Blizzcon. I have Media Pass and theres a couple stations set up for us to use to record footage and make content on. I sat there going over each classes new talents, did multiple dungeon runs and leveled for awhile. To preface this, we were capped at LV 38, so I can't speak or vouch for anything beyond that.>First thing i want to say is that this game is nothing remotely close to Retail. The people saying that have the IQ of a sandal and just want to hate on it because their life is miserable. At no point was I playing this and was reminded of Retail. Even when I was testing out the "HD" version, it didnt have a retail feel. And I play the shit out of both Retail and classic normally. I was expecting more of a Retail vibe honestly, but wasn't there. It literally felt like I was just playing a new version of Classic. I tinked around on all the classes, but I really went hard on Warlock and it felt like an alternative universe Classic Warlock.
If you aren't American your opinion doesn't matter
>>580891347their is no logical reason, blue shit elf defenders are just coping.90% of the comments about forever are positive but all point out how skyborne is stupid.
>>580891347Because retail already added the races that 95% of the playerbase actually plays before they added the shitter races no one likes.Do you have a brain in that skull or what?
It's so weird looking around the internet and any type of criticism or concern with Forever WoW is instantly met with some toxic positivity bs.>"Isn't this more like Retail+/- etc">You're wrong wrong wrong try again>uhm sweaty you're thinking le wrong>Your media literacy?!?It's just so weird. I'm hype for Forever but seeing stuff like this is just cringe inducing
>>580891323I can see that now and that's why this will flop after a couple of month just like SoD current day blizzard sucks at making games,
Can you imagine being a private server fag that spent money on Ascension or Turtle right now?
>>580891460Yep, no one who has actually played it is saying it feels like retail.
>>580890943Horizontal works in some games because the fights are intelligently designed to push building different sets for different situations. I don't see Blizzard doing that, at least well. You will still get a BiS for each spec for 90% of encounters and the vast majority of this gear will be disenchanted
>>580891119>>580891125>>580891450I just know you never cleared Yogg0 or HLK 0% in your dogshit guild runs.
>>580891449not my problem
>>580891537imagine being so retarded, lmao!
>>580891140i love that they copied this from ascension, but didn't copy any of the big effort required ones like the leveling challenges.>>580891249trying to use a non slash weapon vs. him is equally retarded. it's not the same thing as some weapon being marginally better vs a certain enemy type in wow, unless, again, you increase hp values to bloated values, and change the power scaling on the special mob type weapons, and again, you are never selling this idea to the average wow player. or you can limit it to lategame and then have some sort of janky hitrating based scaling instead, either way it would be janky as fuck and nobody would actually like it and it would get reverted instantly so the only acceptable design space they have is as a little flavor bonus on top. maybe 5% to 10%, at most.
>>580884880hunter is appropriate because she's going to suck. at least people will see hunter and know what theyre getting
>>580891537I'm writing off most of the people seething over Forever as private server thirdies who are assblasted they need to pay a sub for wow againgame looks great
>>580891554>muh black and white argumentsIt can both be similar to classic but also have drastic changes that ruin a lot of the core values of vanilla WoW
>>580891537I was this close to buying a pack to support CoA lol
>>580891418
>>580891592do classicfags think yogg0 is some gigagamer elite achievement or
>>580891416I mean gw2 is just a s poz and tranny fill but at least they don't hold me at gunpoint with it like WoW does.
GDKP would be fine if Blizzard got rid of bots selling gold.
>>580890943We already know there's going to be cantrip gear that gives you bonuses against certain enemy types.You WILL farm the new Furbolg dungeon 40 times to get the Satyrbane Necklace for the upcoming raid.
>>580891513Brother people are tired of being endlessly shit on for liking a game. It just fucking non stop. WoW's community for the past 10 years has been filled with doom posters that bitch and moan constantly about a game they don't play.I'm old and I don't want to argue with faggots in every online space I go into
>>580891347Cause we're not part of the furfaggot ERP harem that takes care of the fetish needs of the head dev cabal
>>580891130What druid problem? Druid players like the class being underplayed anyway , and one of the main reasons you say there was a druid problem is because they were garbage for raiding. Bringing more than 1 resto 1 feral was griefing.And yeh my assumption was that alliance get high elves and horde get blood elfs.
>>580891537I spent $200 in Ascension but they're giving me $200 in MTX in their new game.
>>580891292>hey guys, you wont do anymore damage but put your snowsuit onpeople like to get stronger gear to use it in the world, if its the exact same as my prebis why do i care
>>580888415If Undead's new racial is anything to go by, they're arguably going to be the best Prot paladins by a country mile.But since Bear Druid got updates too; and Enhance Tank seems to be a potential; I don't foresee shortages anywhere near as bad as they got during Classic.
>just realized im going to have no way of knowing if im about to invite a brazillian/mexican to my groupsthis is FUCKED
>>580891697yes, even though it has been proven time and time and time again that retail WoW only got more difficult as time went on
>>580890847Lmao this guy is right though
>>580891650>trying to use a non slash weapon vs. him is equally retarded.yeah it isn't though, because he doesn't have a hard counter to them like he does range and mage. You picked an intentionally moronic example thinking I wouldn't recognize it and now all you can do is flail and shit your pants screaming.
can i play WoW forever without dealing with autistic zoomer trannies? i want a solo experience
>>580891510>Do you have a brain in that skull or what?Do YOU?
>Swipe is still 3 targets
>>580891697Yes they got filtered by post nerf Vashj and KT.
>>580891817oh my fucking god
>>580891513>It's so weird looking around the internet and any type of criticism or concern with Forever WoW is instantly met with some toxic positivity bs.It's very organic and definitely not a mix of Copium Bars and xivg posters who rabidly attack criticisms of they/their safe spaces.
>>580891460you forgot to include the rest of this redditor's ramble where he just starts talking about how they made the game easier by buffing player power levels without compensating the world difficulty.
>>580891592I was literally in a dad guild of 35+ year old men and like two women and we cleared it weekly.with zero issues or dramaGame isn't hard when you're playing with functioning adults that aren't retarded
>>580891664what? they're saying it feels like classicif you just want no changes classic you're in the wrong general dummy
poo2 and ploos coming out togetherits not fair man
>>580888917>ahhhhh I fucking hate sunsets!!!!!
>Blizzards Classic+>Transmog sets>Blue elves cross faction>Retail UI, frames and models >Bricked the talents >Undead paladin, troll warlock, human hunter, dwarf shaman, gnome priest>Talent points from lvl 5 on alts>Removing all reagents for classes>Xp boosts buff from food>All new zones and dungeons are complete AI slopAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAI’ve got to give it to Aggrend or whatever the fuck his name is I always knew they were going to fuck this up but this shit is pure comedy kinoI can’t wait to see what they come up with next
Forever cannot last Forever, you simply cannot refute this.
>>580890847He's right. Actual classic players loved GDKP so they could earn gold.
>>580891664How do you get through life being this stupid?
hey goobersshould i be resto druid or a disc priest?
>>580891917>>580891664Retard
Are there gonna be playable Blood Elves on release? Are they adding DKs and DHs later too? I want to play a demonic belf insatiable whore that uses dark powers to overpower orc men
>>580891537yeah I gave turtle 20$ in ethereum for a scourge costume and it was money well spent, I had fun and the server was good so I was happy to do it
>>580891537We don't have to imagine all the private keks are in here and /v/ doomposting about classic+(they're all going to play anyways)
>>580891817why did you select the spanish/portuguese language shard lil gup?
>>580891790You mean the game that's never gonna come out?
>>580891817huehuehueWell, they're probably too poor to buy the "new" elves so you can try to recruit from only the new elves?
>>580891513they are the same people who few months ago were celebrating twow's closure. they aren't genuine people. they probably aren't even going to play the game.
>>580891971disco gets penance. resto gets wild growth. p cool
>>580891664retard
>>580891885Why do you lie? He definitely says it still felt like TTK was similar to Era.
>>580891347No one said Classic can't. They (correctly) pointed out that giving giving High Elves to Alliance and Ogres to Horse would result in an insurmountable faction imbalance that they would literally never be able to correct.
>>580891460>I have Media PassYeah I'm sure a content creator would criticize his next cash cow
>>580891956I couldn't give less of a fuck what retard classic niggers enjoy. It's bad for the overall health of the game.
I dont think its too much to ask for a basic human Juan Death Knight. They had wrath talents, its easy to implement.
>>580892017>implying they won't all select english to get into your groups
SOM fucking sucked without world buffsRaids were fucking miserable in 2020 classic if your raid lost buffsSOD fixed this with world buff consumablesthis is a regression
Enjoy your no GDKP raids. I'll continue hosting them or selling ticket runs like I did all anniversary.
>>580891513the only thing i dont get is the whole "retail+/-" anglei am a retoiletnobody playing retail who enjoys their class or the content design is going to quit solely for transmog or a UI or some shit, i dont get that idea at all
>people think the retail cycle won't hit "Forever">FOREVER IS THE BEST EVER!!!!!>okay it has some problems but I am sure they will fix them very quickly>well the playerbase sure has dwindled, but the next major patch is the big one that will save everything>okay okay I meant the NEXT ONE>Blizzcon rolls around>OHMYGOD FOREVER EXPANSION 2 IS THE THING EVER!!!!!!repeat Forever, you never escaped the maze.
>>580892119>Yeah I'm sure a content creator would criticize his next cash cowYou say that like everything Blizzard puts out doesn't have a million youtubers trying to farm drama from it
>>580891885Did he say that in some other post? Because the one you posts he explicitly says that mobs are still dangerous and his group wiped multiple times.Did you even read that?
>>580891790sexy farstrider guy
>>580891513It all just boils down to bait in the end of the day. If you stop seeking out things that upset you; you'll realize that there's an entire world out there filled with really cool shit that'll make you happy.
>>580891717Fucking this. Though I'd also prefer they gimped the ridiculous mage farm strats too.Just banning gdkp is a lazy bandaid, even though it's lame as fuck seeing people decked out and gear and having to think, "He just bought the gold for that didn't he"
>>580892001no you can only play some gay blue fairy
>>580892015FVAAAARK unapologetic Lizgod
I enjoyed TurtleI enjoyed BronzebeardI enjoyed CoAI will enjoy Forever
>>580891857Lol
>>580892058>>580891989Core gameplay will be more similar to tbc/wotlk than it is to retail. No shit.Having a giant server with millions of players on it is going to be awful.You didn't play vanilla.
if 60 is the "forever" cap I sure hope they're going to make it get to 60 even harder
>>580891790I wouldn't put too much stock in their new game... WoW players kinda just wanna play WoW and nothing else...
>>580892059Lying has been the nillers' chosen method of cope since yesterday. They're are countless examples of them just spewing probably bullshit fabrications. It's mental illness.
>classic>clear naxxramas >full t3 and MoM>1 shot a random noob in the world wearing prebis>classic+ FOREVER>clear naxxramas>full t3 and MoM>encounter the guy in prebis in the world>progression is horizontal so the gear is similar except mine has +10% to undead>get outskilled and dieits not fair
>>580892298>I enjoyed CoAhow
>>580892216They literally addressed all those points during the panel.Do you even have eyes in your head or are they just decoration?
>>580892168Maybe relying on a temporary power crutch to clear easy content is not a good thing.
>>580892234the blizzard youtube fags are>WOW IS SAVED! FOR REAL THIS TIME!>2 months after the expansion releases>WoW is fucking dead
>>580891790>bro I have 200 theoretical dollars in in-store credit for their future vaporwarekek
>>580891846>yeah it isn't thoughare you completely braindead? in what world are you going to be using a crush or stab weapon vs vard
>>580892328They 100% are.Why aren't you listening to the devs literally explaining these things.
>>580892168pump junkie having a withdrawal relapse
>>580892330They've proven they can design a hell of a game though (Bronzebeard/COA in Warcraft Reborn)>>580892392You're just mad I'll have a founder's title and you won't.
>>580886783The irony of you complaining about trannies while Forever has body types and Skyborne Elves that look straight out retail that had blue tranny angels.No one asked for any of this. You are gaslighting yourself.
y'all need jesus
>>580892216what if i play hardcore
>>580892191>selling ticket runsqrd
>>580892430I didn't watch the rest of the panels...
>>580892191*infiltrates your discord and reports you*
>tfw I'm from europe and I'll finally be able to play a classic + experience without the worry of being grouped up with a cuban or mexican spic who are in a guild named "LA CRUZADA ESCARLATA"
>>580892384When the game crashes, does the market for Copium Bars rise or fall?
>>580892191How did you not get banned?
>>580891728I'm just talking about in general like one person asked in a chat the harmless question of "can't I call this retail-" and he was met "NO!! THIS IS CLASSIC PLUS!"Like damn these people are weird. I'm going to enjoy my time with Forever but I'm going to call it retail- in game just to farm some salt.>>580891875The only times I went to xivg I felt like I forgot to take my anti-psychosis meds>>580892048>they probably aren't even going to play the gameHonestly true which is why I hope I can find some fun based normal people to play Forever with>>580892212It's just from a comment I saw on a stream is all and the guy got dog-piled for it similar to how someone asks a question against a cult. I for one am excited for Forever>>580892272I usually don't get upset over things unless it's a bit too weird for me.
>singular new hunter ability is copied from the Chinese meme serverLOL
Poochie status?
>>580892282Sucks fucking ass until they add it. Some kyrian elf whores joining whorde doesn't look lore friendly. Boo
>>580891938I hope you're getting paid to spam these threads brownoid
>>580892447he wants to log into niller with 25 other browns and kill the bos in 35 seconds with all wbfs consumes and do that for every raid then log off
>>580892340Online really does seem like a cesspool more than ever. People will see one thing they dislike and instant become a diehard in hating forever. I don't understand how people enjoy hating things, it's like how some women just make problems out of nothing because they are bored.
>>580892503>he thinks EU and americas are separated
> Archimonde corpse looks exactly like eredar/draeneiDRAENEI STILL CANON IN FOREVER, WE WON GOATBROS
>>580892274you mean you enjoyed the income you were generating and miss it
>>580892405Still evading the point I see, here's what you actually said>trying to use a non slash weapon vs. him is equally retarded.Which is blatantly false. Using a non-slash melee is obviously not optimal, but it's nowhere near as ineffective as using range or mage because he has a BUILT IN HARD COUNTER TO RANGE AND MAGE.ALMOST like you intentionally cherry picked an example hoping I wouldn't pick up on it.
Poors already seething about the bundle. You love to see it.
>>580892497>rest of the panels>rest ofThey said the cap will always be 60 in THE FIRST fucking panel.
>>580891535picrel
>>580892503It's really not a big deal the moment you even see a hint of SPANISH you autokick and /report them.
>>580892547grim
I still don't get the megaserver and if I'll be able to play with NAcucks as EU or viceversa
>>580892503you'll group up with russians and balkan niggersidk hows that a win
NEW PLOOS FOREVER PANEL LIVE https://www.twitch.tv/xaryuhttps://www.twitch.tv/xaryuhttps://www.twitch.tv/xaryuTALKING ABOUT DUSKWOOD
>can't afford the ridiculously high price of $30 to stare at tight skywife ass all dayThe west has fallen...
>>580892705its per region
>>580889852blows me away that people can't put 2 and 2 together.yeah, surely blizzard has totally righteous intentions with this and isn't just testing the waters. surely they won't backpedal if people lash out. surely this isn't the same as tokens or boosts or anything else.i fuckin hate like 90% of the retards in this thread. and online. i hate almost everyone that plays wow.
>>580892503uh realms are crossregion little pserver chuddie
kino
>>580892619>Archimonde corpse looks exactly like eredar/draeneiWhy wouldn't it?Even Kil'Jaeden is like ancient WC1 or WC2 era lore with art.The withered warped mutant freak Draenei in "Classic" were always the post-retcon version.
>>580892736https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8bPfo2wHZEnon streamer link retard
okay duskwood fucking slaps
Oh my god bro is classic changing things?????THIS ISNT WHAT I SIGNED UP FOR WHEN I WANTED VANILLA!
>>580892823i'm sure it was real in ur head lilgup
>>580891537They are here doomposting as we speak.
>>580892730I prefeer having to play with slavshits for 10 years straight than to have to play with another south american nigger ever again
>>580892826No they aren't. Pay fucking attention when you watch something, mouthbreather.
>>580891917>what? they're saying it feels like classic"they" were confirmed to be a retail andy that doesnt know what classic actually is. >>580891885>>580892059>He definitely says it still felt like TTK was similar to Era.it's the opposite. anyone who isn't a retard, namely anyone who played SoD can tell you this right now.>>580892240> Because the one you posts he explicitly says that mobs are still dangerous and his group wiped multiple times.he's talking about some DUNGEON, not the overworld>they made the game easier by buffing player power levels without compensating the world difficulty.
>toxic positivity There's toxic positivity because there's also an onslaught of toxic negativity and its mainly due to the modern internet.Everyone has access to some kind of forum channel at all times and can spew whatever shit they want on it. If we had social media back in 2005, we'd see the same amount of people complaining about the game or people saying its the worst thing ever. Any game you currently like, there is guaranteed someone out there that thinks you're subhuman trash that should be dead because you like itWhich we already did because if you browsed /v/ back in 2007, a lot of people considered even Vanilla wow casualized themepark garbage that killed the mmo genre. Literally nothing has changed except horrendous shitty opinions are shoved in your face and people have made careers complaining about video games in front of a cameraDo things you enjoy doing. Don't hatewatch stuff. Life is literally too short to be doing shit you don't like.
Can you niggers please STFU, it looks good, it feels good. The streamers are all saying it HYPE.
>Wow classic+ up to 20 races and each costs money>Don't want the race so I don't buy the ones I don't like
>>580892625Almost all my raiding has been done in DKP guilds.I only ever joined a couple of gdkps on alts for something to do, and my guild not having room in raids for my alt. I made less than 100g total I'd estimate from all the gdkps i ever did
private server troons are madthis is great
>>580892823Why would they risk their playerbase with tokens and shit when they could just sell content and transmogs and races and classes? That appears to be the line.
>>580892495LFM Ony DB HR (I pre-sold it to some guy for 15k)
>>580892773they never said it's per region
>>580892904It's disgusting how transparent they're being. Ragebaiting used to be an art.
im not giving views to that shitskin
KHAZ MODAN
>>580892876>oh look we added some god raysnothing new, dont care
>>580892935>The mobs died a little faster and did close to no dmgSee, why are you just cherrypicking snippets to try to lie? We both know that the rest of that sentence says they are talking about the new Skyborne starting zone and they say it evens out to normal classic around level 8. Feel free to post the full paragraph to prove me wrong!
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>>580892869The retcon was making Archimonde and the draenei the same species of space alien. Archimonde was basically warcraft satan, a demon lord. TBC is what transformed demons into weirdo space aliens and draenei into other space aliens related to the big bads of the legion. Which, just to be clear, was completely batshit retarded.
reminder that beta is going to only increase the hype and it's going to be another repeat of 2019 (even if it doesn't last as long)
>>580889717Blizzdrone lies, lmao.It's a shame your owners never allowed you to try any of the servers out.
we're all watching quinhttps://www.twitch.tv/quin69https://www.twitch.tv/quin69https://www.twitch.tv/quin69
>>580892935>it's the opposite. anyone who isn't a retard, namely anyone who played SoD can tell you this right now.You deliberately clipped the bit where he was specifically talking only about the sex elf starting zone, and that everything else was basically the same as era. Because you're a pathetic, dishonest faggot who has to lie to make other people feel as miserable as you are.
>>580892982don't cry when they start adding paid classes like diablo
>>580889852>>580892823It really is being some of the few sane people in a room of madmen.They learned their lesson from Diablo Immortal. And the lesson was no amount of shamelessness, no degree of mum/dead response from a crowd, none of that matters... it still made a billion dollars being shamelessly unapologetically greedy in a way that would make a merchant kneel in envy.And somehow wowbabs think these moves with boosts, tokens, and now paywalling races that are cheap reskins aren't just moving the "new normal" to further mtx.
>>580892982still have to play with 5 different gay retail elves jumping aroundand the cute furry races obviously seeing a tauren player in a two years is going to happen once a year
>>580893003i don't think they should sell races and classes. i don't care if they sell transmogs and mounts and pets.
>>580893008ooooooooooh i seesmart
>>580893274you technically don't have to, just make your own groups and discriminate to your heart's desire and see where that gets you
>>580892630>Which is blatantly falseit isn't, you are equally fucking retarded trying to use a crush weapon on vard. why? because d scimmy has higher dps than zombie axe. if you have zombie axe, you also have d scimmy. why the fuck would you be using something that does OBJECTIVELY less dps than an early game weapon everyone has access to? let alone if you are a main and you can just buy a whip, the highest dps crush weapon is not even beating d scimmy in dps.
>>580892772thats like 2 hours of moving boxes get a job fatso
>>580893389what about the 99,999% players who are not in my group?
>>580893014we have no reason not to assume that
>>580893485what about them? you hate them anyway, so don't play with them. figure it out, racist
>>580893353If they're not selling expansions I'm fine with classes and races as the equivalent personally.
