Previous >>581032629>What is WoW: Forever?Blizzard's new version of World of Warcraft, based on vanilla WoW. Set in the same Azeroth but expanded upon with new zones, dungeons, raids, quests and much more.>New Race: SkyborneSkyborne are available for Horde and Alliance but are not the same Skyborne. There was a cultural shift prior and now different Skyborne are aligned with the different factions. Horde Skyborne get Shaman, Alliance get Mages>Many new race/class combos including Undead Paladin and Dwarf Shaman>More than 1k quests added making a 25% increase in quest content alone>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app/#warrior/60/00000000000000000-000000000000000000-0000000000000000000>When is it being released?Release date November 4th>Will there be a beta?Yes you can opt in at https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/forever#blz-optin-1https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/forever#editions
retail players are our sisters
Hear me out
>Retoilets coming to these threads to doom because their game is fucking dead now
>Days are taking much much much longer to go by nowFor fuck sake, I'm in the beta too and even this wait is fucking ROUGH.I just want to play.
Convince me to buy the elf
>>581042469>dragonoidsanon no
>>581042469Dryad and naga might get good porn, don't care about the rest.
Good name for an orc mage?Thinking something like Malnig Gerlock
>>581042469Hear you out on what? They're not gonna add playable Sons of Arugal lol, the only realistic options there are High Elves and Goblins because they're too lazy to give us Ogres and Amani Trolls
Wagers are running at 90%+ chance of the absolute majority of players paypigging the Skelves worldwide.
your wallets were promised to blizzard 3000 years ago. BUY THE BETABUY THE ELF
OH MAN I CANT WAIT TO HECKIN ZOOM TO 60, IGNORE ALL THE NEW TRASH CONTENT, GANK AND RAID LOG, ITS GONNA BE A SOLID 1 MONTHS WORTH OF FUN!
is the new wc3 campaign any good
>>581042469next expansion we're getting a regiment of draenei from draenor that survived for the alliance and a regiment of ogres that are part of the hordebook it
>>581042469WOAH MAMA WHO'S THAT BOTTOM MIDDLE
>spend 10 minutes looking at talents and spellsOMG you're optimizing the fun out of the game, you used a guide!!!
>1 month of fun until everyones burnt out>6 months of raidlogging onyxia
>>581042535You can play retoilet already
>>581042469Ogres have already been confirmed lol
>>581042469>we NEED 100 different playable races turning the lore into avenger slop!Back to retail with you.
>>581042536You'll save time in the future when they add a long quest chain to unlock them for free.
>>581042593Yep. Just enough time for HC FRESH to launch.
Alliance and Horde should create an Peace Treaty to exterminate every Bluey they see.
>>581042615>nooo you have to play with me!!>nooo you have to play (like) me!!nope.
>>581042507>retailfags dooming>classicfags dooming>pserverfags dooming>xivfags dooming>nonplayers doomingWe have too many fucking doomers shitting up the threads
>>581042615*picks talent that has a chance to do something over one that gives me 1% of a stat*
>>581042469>Dryad Heard. Listened. Accepted. Would.
>>581042536You will get to play sex elf and have bunch of players be horny for you all the time.
HECKIN GOOD BOY
>>581042507>surprised to see retoilets when retoilets are directly pandered to with several design features?
why the fuck can't skyborne be priest
>>581042584>sons of arugalJust worgen but with the cool classic model instead of the gay retail one
there's going to be another guild other than clover club, right? please? surely
Bro resto druid is overpowered... finally when I don't wan to play druid they make it good
>>581042646>in 6 months we'll have 4+ new raids and dungeons among other updates by the time we get to onyxiashitposters didn't even watch the announcements
if I never played WoW before, would WoW forever be a good way of experiencing the game for the first time?
>>581042758It would be too popular and the game would turn into ERP central.
>>581042593Unironically me.>>581042683I will literally level all my alts on HC and then transfer them to PvP.
>>581042758They have no cultural connection whatsoever to the Light. They broke away from Highborne culture long before that was a thing.
>>581042749
>>581042675ok but thanos being in the barrow dens would be hype tho
oh so NOW wrath is retail
People grinded vanilla p1 for months with less content than we're getting desudesu.
>>581042864Hell yeah brother
>>581042553Nothing wrong with the old ones they were cool and menacing
>>581042915fucking kek
>>581042842It's not even out yet, so we don't know if it's good.
today i will accuse everyone who disagrees with me of being a secret retail player
>>581042736Dryads would be kino but I reckon theyd get left in the bin with Naga for being non humanoid
>>581042758Night Elves have Elune and Blood Elves have the sunwell. Sky Elves have no connection to the light and are much more in tune with nature spirits and old gods.
what's the point of playing if no one will invite me to raids because i'm an autistic antisocial sperg
>>581042717>retailfagstrannies>pserverfagstrannies>xivfags trannies>nonplayerstrannies
>>581042842Its the only logical choice if youve waited this long.
>>581043035Good news no flying mounts so you just click the PvP button and become the guy everybody hates.
>>581042956agreed. Gnolls as the Furry Beast Race and Dragonoids as the Lizardman beast race.And of course, Ogres and Goblins.
>>581042749>>581042982How long until we get to fuck the bear like in Baldur's Gate 3?
>>581043035you just need to be in the guild and only speak to the voices in your head. you can only say inv when someone asks for more people for a dungeon
>>581042842Unironically yes
>>581042819>4+ new raidsits 2 new raids >dungeonsim 60 already lil gup
So what are they keeping from SoD? Do we know?
Now that dungeon spamming is gone, how will lowbies be able to level on PvP servers without getting ganked 24/7?I'm genuinely curious.
>>581043116pvmping
>>581042931>now
>>581042749HOLY FUCK I FUCKING LOVE CHONKERS HECKIN DOGGARINOS AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>581043016DUDE I FUCKING LOVE HOW FLAT SHE ISTHAT IS SO GODDAMN EROTIC
>>581042915Wow was always comfy. But was it this kinda gay?
>>581043243like they did back in vanilla, retoilet
>>581043148separating pvp players means everyone on the pvp server is there to pvp. in the old times most people picked pvp servers as the default and most people who got ganked weren't specifically looking to do pvp.also you need raid items to pvp
>>581043173Find a degenerate druid to ERP with and you can do it now
>>581042842There's probably never going to be a better way of experiencing it for the first time post-2004-2008.
>want to play alliance mage>basically forced to make an uggo gnomedelete racials.
So apparently the Horde Skelf racial gives them +10% movement speed for a whopping 10 minutes.Which class would benefit the most from this? I'm guessing it doesn't stack with Druid Travel Form and Hunter's Aspect of the Cheetah.
>>581043243Got a fucking squad nigga
>>581043287Uhhh... FBI
>>581043227>im 60 already lil gupDon't worry, the new dungeons will be catchup dungeons like Pit of Saron/Halls of Reflection/Forge of Souls with better gear than the first raid.
>>581042787you can join mandate of heaven. only 50% of the officers are trannies. good luck
>retail ui>retail frames>retail models (“classic” models are wrong)>retail regeneration mechanics (no server ticks)>retail animations >transmogs (hidden vendor somewhere ??? to try and toggle it off)>blueberry avatar last air bender cloud elves never mentioned in the LORE cash shop race >store mounts >8363813681732 layers >adding ray tracing to a 20 year old game during a global hardware crisis >all reagents removed>everyone can create a camp anywhere in the world with an NPC vendor with repair that spawns next to you >portals to all capital cities inside each capital city making travelling the world obsolete >store pets >class balance bricked >faction immersion bricked with undead pala and dwarf shaman >orcs are now magically mages>bricked racials>paladins now one shot everyone and are best dps, best healers and best tanks all at onceTHEY MANAGED TO COMPLETELY DESTROY IT IN WEEK 0 AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
retail trannies turning this general into a ghost town in record time with their avatarfagging spam, well done, being so repulsive
>>581043243>infinite layer megaserverit'll be easy to dodge the rare autistic corpse camper it won't even matter
What's the ERP scene gonna look like in Forever? Hoping they drop an RP-PVP server as well.
>>581043360Hm I saw someone using it and it was only 30 seconds.
>>581043335I don't remember it defaulting to PVP in 2004 and griefing was even worse in 2019 than 2004 man you can still live your dreams.]
>>581043357
>>581042931anything with flying mounts is retailyes, TBC too
>>581043016Just do as they did with dracthyr, show only shoulders and helmet and give them way more character customization in return
>>581042368so when is wow forever fresh launching?
>>581043243they can play on normal rules if that's a problem for them. You are supposed to get ganked on pvp servers.
Can these faggot devs please stop putting the mana regen talent I need for my class to function in the 2nd or 3rd row of a tree? NO I don't want to waste 10 points in the healerslop tree just to get to the one thing I need.
Can I make a horde and alliance character on the same account?
>>581043454>ghost townquite literally the most popular thread on the entire website
>>581042842yes. retail wow (midnight is the expansion its on right now) is a complete clown fiesta with mountains of legacy systems and content. plus the game is significantly harder so unless you are really into difficult content, the forever game is your best bet.forever will be unsolved (they are capping the beta to level 30 out of 60) so you can get away with being a shitter and playing off-meta because it hasnt been sweatily optimized like the other versions of classic wow yet
>>58104336010% sounds like nothing but a 30 second movespeed increase on something especially like rogue or druid is big for pvp and pve
>>581043360now do this style, but she's a mage professor with a slit on the side for her thick legs on the dress.
Someone asked who would play melee hunter?When I played vanilla WoW, my first character was a hunter. This item was my first rare weapon for my hunter. I immediately tried to PvP but I ran into a problem. Beast Master spec was shit because I had the black and red scorpion from Durotar and didn't know how to level its abilities. Marksman was shit because I had a crappy green bow and enemies kept closing the distance. So I respect to survival to make the most of my spear and that's where I found my niche. I activate Aspect of the Monkey, laid my traps and threw out as many raptor and mongoose strikes as I could. Getting berserking up to a decent level even let my weapon proc.Was it competitively viable? Not for anyone but me. But I had some of the most fun ever while playing WoW and I intend on honoring that memory by resubbing and shitting up battlegrounds one more time.
I love dire maul so much.Will i be able play dire maul as fresh 60 or do i need to wait 6 months to play it.
>>581043554it would be extremely painful
>>581043554On PvE, RP and Hardcore yes.On PvP no.
>>581043456
>>581043310What the fuck is gay about it? The bear is just playing with a fucking wisp
>>581042717>something new>something that other people want>I didnt get what I wanted>REEEEEEEEEEEEthe birth of a doomposter.
>>581043454Forever has been #1 on VG for 4 days straight beating even Gachasloppa generals filled with actual thirdies
My uncle works at BlizzardPandas are coming fall 2027
>>581042469this is the ploosy we wanted blissart
>>581043621>>581043621>>581043621>>581043621
>>581043620Forever initial story revolves around Dire Maul
>>581043423>>581042593HE'S BACK. does it kill you to see how many people are hyped? the dedication to doomposting is some real sick in the head shit
Im gonna roll mele hunter and steal weapons from paladins warriors and rogues
>>581043684Why would a bear give a shit about a wisp?
>>581043636They can't interact even if you make both on pve right?
>bought wow: forever + reforged hoping to replay RoC and TFT with updated graphics>updated Definitive Graphics is only in the new expansionholy fuck, did I get scammed?
>>581043696A true neutral race would be cool, don't know how it'd work in PvP doever.
>>581042368>Uldaman>Stratholme>Maraudon>Scholomance>Deadmines>Dire Maul>Zul'Farrak>StockadesNot a single "of" or " 's"
>>581043360>>581042623>>581042587SEEEEEXXXXOOOOOOOOOOO
>>581043419i'm in NA
>>581043840>doever
>>581042842yes, it willhowever if ur an autist about not being a shit player, then get into a private server and practice lvls 1-20 with your race/class of choice
>>581043823the campaign is pretty good so its forgiveable since an actual wc3 expansion in '26 is unbelievable.
>>581043612I played a cmangos private server on my machine a year ago and I made my own melee hunter by giving it rockbiter, lacerate (an old DoT removed in 1.9), some warrior talents like deep wounds and flurry, and using a script to edit the server's sql for lacerate, raptor strike, and mongoose bite to give them melee attack power scaling on par with later expansions (basically it'd query my attack power and edit the raw dmg on the spells but it would edit them for everyone but it didn't matter since I was the only person on the server.) It was really fun.
>>581043559more than 2/3rds of it filled with attentionwhoring troons posting their avatars and forcing their faggot fetish circlejerk erp instead of talking about the game anymoreof course you faggots are obsessed with post count per minute instead of anything substantive and on topic being posted
WHY DOES BLIZZARD HATE HIGH ELVES
>>581043889Doe+ever=doever
>>581043454The fuck are you on about? This is the most active I've seen any general on 4chan since before the hack. This shit is poppin'.
Will it be possible to use a mod or addon to change the skyborne and make them look like high elves you think? I've heard of mods adding bigger boobs, changing the skin shouldn't be impossible, right?
>these threads
BLIZZARD PLEASE ADD THE ASHBRINGER TO CLASSIC FOREVER
>>581043819>Why would a bear give a shit about a wisp?How are you this retardedStop being retarded
>>581043808Hot…
>>581043896I haven't played RoC and TFT since I was in middle school.I don't want to play classic or fucking Reforged models only to switch to Definitive in Forsaken.That's disjointed as fuck!!!
>>581043821Correct, there's zero xfaction on official servers. No mail, no trading. The only way to trade items is via the neutral AH in Booty Bay, Gadgetzan and possibly new ones in FWoW
>>581043360>>581043602wait a minute
>>581043737for ((you))
>>581042937>Classic was so successful that people were willing to play it AGAIN in Anniversary>Forever has as much content on launch as Turtle did after 8 years of development>people are so desperate for Classic+ that they swarmed Project Epoch like locusts>TBC Classic is already imploding, some guilds are losing more than 80% of their members to ForeverForever is going to flop so hard! Kek, kek, kek-a-doodle-doo!
DIE, FAGGOT!
WHATS UP NEGROS,just got off my b&, discord trannys hit me right before blizzcon went live. and guess the fuck what. FOREVERCHADS WON, TRANNYHOMOS LOSTLMFAOMFAO>RETAIL TRANNYSmid cope cyle>3rd WORLD POORSunable to token>FUR FAGSdying >PSERVER POORSsaar'ing to the point they are going to take their father with them off the side of a cliffWE EATING GOOD BOYS. wtf lil tranny finna do? cry and jork it to some dog again? LMFAO
>need to pay $30 to fuck the elvestell me this isn't the norm for the inevitable future classes and races
>>581043973Same reason for the fruit bowl paintings. "High" elves comes off as a racist dogwhistle, it's never going to happen. They don't want articles written about them and their sensitivity department won't allow it.
>>581043973The blue man group elves are explicitly high elves that fucked off to chill with air elementals
>>581043808That's a girl.
>>581043848Shaper's Terrace is from Wrath and you can contract the others easily.
>>581044056its nu-blizz accept you're getting a pie with a turd in it or forever be rugged
>>581043945>more than 2/3rdsIt isn't even remotely close to that amount you pathetic, miserable, angry, worthless, disingenuous niggerfaggot.
>>581042717>everyone saying this is just retoilet is (insert boogeyman here)lmao
>>581044178stfu blizzdrone
>>581043602sex elf druids will be so aids on WSG
>>581043848>Lordaeron Ruins >Dalaran CityThere, I fixed it.
Is there a NA 'cord for Forever? Need to start looking for a guild pronto
I'm gonna heal as balance and you'll be none the wiser.
>>581044154Wrong, they're night elves, they're related to the Shen'dralar.
>>581043945I believe you mean that 2/3rds of it is endless trolling / doomposting
BLIZZARD PLEASE ADD THE WARGLAIVES OF AZZINOTH TO WOW FOREVER
>>581043696kino, as long as the models look like pre-mop artwork and aren't the uncanny mop ones
>>581044173why do they hate us man!why do they hate us!!!!
>>581043384>the new dungeons will be catchup dungeonscatchup for what? theres no powercreep in forever
>>581044238You're doing more to shit up the thread than any amount of softcore porn. Kill yourself and go back to /wowcg/. In that order.
>>581044134In the 90s buying expansion packs and races for your games was normal. It's still normal now.
>>581044134>active dev team>game has no box pricefor races good chance. classes who knows
>>581044370t. retail drone
>>581044087Yeah that's what I meant. We know Tauren plainswalking doesn't stack with other movement abilities so I'm wondering if it's the same here. Shit would be broken on Druid or Hunter. Hell even on Shaman, Warrior and Rogue it'd be great.
>>581044178
>>581044361>theres no powercreep in foreverSuch a grand and intoxicating innocence.
>>581044293we're using in game chat to call people slurs now
REMINDER DONT GIVE BLIZZARD OR STREAMERS ANY OF YOUR MONEY AND REPORT ANY RETOILET BLIZZ SHILL FAGS ITT SPAMMING GAY SLOP ON A BLUE BOARD
>>581043360Here is how the sky elf racials actually work>horde racial 2min cd can give themselves 10% movespeed for 30s. If you are near an elemental when cast you keep the buff for 15min instead>their slow fall is actually a full blown goblin glider. you move extremely fast and have full movement controls while midair
>>581044263Yeah Sex Elf druids will be absolutely BIS for flag carrying
LFG hall of thanes, bring flask pumpers only no skynoggs allowed
>>581043848what will be the acronyms>The Hall of ThanesHoT? or just thanes?>Ruins of Lordaeronruins or RoL>Excavation Site: WetlandsESW?>City of DalaranCoD or Dal>The Drowned CityTDC>Krol'dok StrongholdKDS>Alcaz Prisonprob just Prison>Blackmaw HoldBMH>Shapers TerraceCan't be ST that's sunken temple. Terrace prob
>>581044134I wanted everything but the elves. I wish I didn't have to pay 60 bucks for that.
>>581044402>game has no box pricegame has a $15 a month subscription
>>581042368hey was it confirmed we HAVE to use 2 names? for and surname?
>>581044318Yeah, this is a result of them fucking up during the panel and saying High Elf instead of Highborne. They're basically high caste Night Elves after 10,000 years of exposure to Skywall.
>>581044293gonna play with my wotlk guild, solid players and big chillin
>>581044465look and laugh at this doomtroon
>>581044087What does>converegence of elementsmean? Does it mean anywhere that there are a lot of elemental mobs? It'd be hilarious if blue elves could have 100% uptime for 10% movement speed. I can't wait to get ganked by hunters and rogues I can never catch, unironically.
Q3 2027 a Ladder mode will be announced.
>The gameplay trailer ends with Admiral Taylor and Nazgrim fightingThey didn't exist until Cata though?
>>581044547
>>581044538yes you do, but you don't have to display your last name
does anyone know if you can use downranked spells?
>>581044484Depends on whether or not Plainsrunning stacks with Travel Form. I'm assuming it doesn't.
>>581044564No clue.Alliance has something similar with leylines.
If Blizz wants forever to survive they can't fuckup powercreep. Abuse the fact autists WILL grind hours for 0.5% upgrades. Someone BiS first raid tier should only be ~10% behind BiS a year later.
>>581044087this is probably just a facny way of saying forever on their starting zone
Why do I see you guys constantly speculating on what's going to be broken? Isn't the point of classic+ to just have fun and not to powergame or lobby for perfect balance?
>>581044538You have to use your real name when playing the game now, it's like when youtube and google merged and they had everyone use Google+.
>They know Whitemane is a fan favorite>They're gonna waste her in a dungeon AGAINI hate blizzard
>>581043360>>581044087I don't understand. What's a convergence?Before anybody even answers, if it's easy to find and get to and not out of the way, that's crazy, so I'm assuming it will be out of the way because holy shit, 15 minutes of 10% move speed is actually fucking nuts.
>>581044612Presumably they didn't spawn from the void so they were alive during vanilla
>>581044629yes, yes you can. There's an option to view and use them.
>>581044134Keeping poor thirdies away from skywives is actually a W
I will be giving out free wands day one if your free wand is made by goonlörd thats me. They'll be sticky but you wont mind right
>>581044612Are you stupid, anon?
>>581044629Spells have ranks so presumably yes.
WHERE MY BIG DAWGS ATim going to rush 60, and gank no shoe niggers all day, non stop. im going to be the reason people log off, its all i want.
>>581044618so if I name myself Epstein Jeffrey,will people just see Epstein???
>>581044629I heard some guy who went to the beta say no downrank spells it’s like retail
where is the class tier list?
>>581044719Metzen's daughter is already redesigning her outfit as we speak.
>>581043360Paladins literally get a passive 16% movement increase from 2 Ret talents btw10% is nothing. Complete meme race.
>>581044749Sex elves are for white men.
So looking at the changes, I assume hybrids will earn their spot in a raid due to buffs/utility and more competitive damageBut Hunter and Rogue new talents don't look like they'll give them enough of a boost to be much stronger than they used to be, and they basically have no utility (unless we count jank stuff like Hunters skipping trash with their pet which might not work in the new raids)
so t he new war3 campaign is good i hear? maybe there's hope for blizz afterall
>>581044925hunters will likely have the same retarded early scaling. Rogue seems to have better talenting options so I am unsure of their ability.
WoW: Forever reimagines how you use gear, abilities, and items to create a unique playstyle:Classes are simpler and more distinct Combat is slower pacedDungeoneering requires more planning Items are massively overhauled And many more changes!
>>581044847S -- warlockA -- paladin, warrior, shaman, mageB -- hunter, priestC -- rogueF -- druidno problem!
question, will /wowg/ and /wowfg/ plan to merge? You faggots are taking up 2 spots
>>581044847
>>581044974I've heard nothing but good things.
>>581044974It's has worse storytelling than og w3 but better than retail wow. Take this as you may.>>581044848Fuck metzen
>>581044974They gave Sally pants lmao
>>581045023>S tier>can't heal/tankhmmm.I want to shaman tank like a motherfucker if I don't give in to the Warlock
>toilet parsies already theorycrafting melee weaving rotation for surv hunterKWAB who's gonna tell them?
>>581044925Weren't rogues already in a decent spot in vanilla? If they reign in warriors, I imagine rogues will be alright in terms of damage. Not having any buffs or utility is a bit worrying though
>>581045059True, that space in the catalog could have gone to another dozen gacha "games"
>>581044719This isn't a 'what if the timeline diverged wildly from retail' sort of thing.Its more like 'here are things that could have happened between the major story beats of retail'Whitemane will still be killed by Voss and raised as a Horseman, that's set in stone.
>>581045062100% chance this was made by a retarded person who also happens to be a seething nillafag.
>>581044974It wasn't made by blizzard per se. From what I understand they hired experienced WC3 custom map creators
>>581045124>DPS tankier than thanks
Lone Wolf is the worst thing to happen ever.
>>581044618kinda sucks
Daily reminder your excited for retail. Brack was right "You think you do but you don't."
nohitjerome class-tier list fucking when
load up your nu metal we are going home bros
>>581044974It's really dogshit but sunk cost has people pretending it's good, though cautiously.
>>581045173Neat.>>581045239Soul link + spam searing pain, guess I CAN tank
>>581045246idk what that is
What if they secretly add Death Knight as a Hero Class?But it won't proc unless you're lv60 in Hardcore with Exalted for all 4 of vanilla races of your faction, plus Exalted Argent Dawn?And THEN when the character dies, the Lich King resses that character and only that character as a new Death Knight?
>>581045059As soon as all the gacha threads merge, sure thing. Until then, have you considered suicide?
>>581045246Nothing wrong with it, you don't have to take it you know.
>>581045173I like this.
Classic: Retail Slop edition.
>>581044974It's good if you hate the RTS genre.
>>581045291>no blue elfunrealistic
>>581044974Impressive not terrible. Between forever and the warc3 campagin expac it feels like they fired a big portion of the crazy trannies or are keeping them all in retail.
>no trannys because no fag injection>no 3rd worlders because they are poor>classic autist cant into anything new>fur fags absolutily devastatedthis fucking rocks bros, and ontop of all that, pvp server AH is phased to pvp only, meaning absolutly zero bots will be able to farm because im going to kill every single one of them. fuck im so hype.
>>581044974Poor Anya
Can we get the old wow artists to come back for this game?
>>581045291>I WATCH HOW THE MOON SITS IN THE SKY ON A DARK NIGHT, SHINING WITH THE LIGHT FROM THE SUN
>>581045353The only secret addition is the SoD specs
So now that era vanilla will be completely empty layers should no longer exist right? We can finally play no layers?
>>5810452913/4 should be blue elves and 1 should be a depressed undead
>>581045164Anon, I...
>>581045441>no troonsLiterally the target audience for the new elves>no thirdiesEnjoy being merged with ESL in the 1 megaserver
Classic players won't stick around long after 60. Retail players may give it longer but this will only hold their attention until Last Titan (which will be such a disaster that it will finally kill even them). Forever is going to be Blizzard's tomb.
>>581045353These posts are so fucking funny dude, it's always "What if they did exactly what they did in retail, that'd be so awesome!"
>>581045059You mean wowcg and wowfg After all this is classic+
>>581045481Unfortunately, I met a Retail concept artists at 'con. She's doing artwork for Forever too m'afraid.
>>581044821yes
blue elves are so gayjust add high elves and blood elves like damn
>>581045013Minmaxers are gonna have a field day creating prebis lists for every raid varying by enemy type composition.
>no dogshit warmodeCan't believe I'm coming back to this shit 7 years later.
>>581045059this replaced wowcg
>>581045581Inshallah brother Blizzard will go bankrupt and vanilla will be free
>>581045481wife on the right
Oh boy i can't wait for 600 new recipes that have a 3 day cd on creation! let's fucking gooo
>>581045009I'll grant that new BM (since pets apparently scale) and Surv are unknowns now, but MM getting a capstone that's even slower than aimed shot with 160 extra damage baseline doesn't look promisingGiven their game design philosophy talks I doubt any class/spec is going to be as meme tier as vanilla
shant buy the Avatar elvesshall role the Nelf Druid
>>581045246"Here's a class whose entire identity revolves around having a pet - let's remove the pet"I'm convinced lone wolf only exists because parsetroons seethe endlessly about dps loss from having to keep their pet out of the fire or having it die in first 10 seconds
>>581045059It should merge when WoW Retail is discontinued and replaced officially with WoW Forever. I hereby so declare.
>>581044646no matter, a single DoT and plainsrunning falls off, unlike sex elf racial
>>581045059the private server general is the one that has zero point existing anymore.
BUY THE ELFBUY THE ELFYOUR WALLET WAS PROMISED TO BLIZZARD 4000 YEARS AGOBUY THE ELF AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH
>>581045581Quite so. All the other blizz IPs are dead or maintenance. This is the last hurrah of Warcraft, the bottom of the barrel is scraped empty.
Fuck
>>581045735Sniper shot is +physical damage so suppose the point is to one shot clothies And likely there'll be tier set bonuses to reduce cd/cast time and maybe even proc instant casts
>>581045868Shall not buy the elfShall not invite the elf to groupsShall kill all elves from the other faction on sight
>>581045059I hope we killed a gachashit gen
>>581045694just like your dead private server
>>581045573>Enjoy being merged with ESL in the 1 megaserverThis is how yuropoor servers have always worked kek.
>>581044508>The Hall of ThanesHoT>Ruins of Lordaeronruins or RoL -yes>Excavation Site: WetlandsESW -most likely>City of DalaranDAL>The Drowned CityDC>Krol'dok StrongholdKDS or stronghold>Alcaz Prisonalcaz >Blackmaw HoldBMH>Shapers Terraceterrace yes
>>581045743nelf druid supremacy. even better now that shadowmeld kind of does something
>raceundead>classrogue>level 60>bandicam on>musicbleeding through>areastranglethorn vale>warmodeon
>>581044831actually there are down ranked spells because I saw sodapoppin's spell book when he was dueling he showed druid spellbook. So I'm guessing you would use low rank healing touch for example
>>581045816sky elf racial sucks look here >>581044087
Do Horde Skelf Shamans get the vanilla Ghost Wolf or an updated version?We already know their totems look like urns.
>buy the elfNah, I'll just play a gnome and have a side fem nelf for fapping.
>>581045573LMFAO, go play turtle...oh wait, try CoA.....oh wait, no wait try epoch....oh wait... how about OH I KNOW FROSTY??? oh wait! LMFAO. holy fucking ESL nigger, go to sleep jamboy, your going to need at least 3 generations of family wealth if you want to restore your izzat with a whole $15 LMFAOFLEX ON'EM WOWF CHADS, FLEX ON'EM
I piggied up, where can I reserve my name
>>581045875I wonder how long it'll take these retards to realize this isn't classic but a reboot of the game.
>>581045875Most of these look great. Better looking gear should be a minimum requirement for this game. Their tech for making good looking gear is vastly better than it used to be.
>>581045936what are you talking about? i like the 3 day cd stuff. its usually a great way to make bank.
>>581042469Forgetting someone?
>>581045751Played a hunter since 2006, exclusively. Hated having a pet every second of that time.Retail has completely sucked, save for M+, raids and LONE FUCKING WOLF.Pets in Wow are absolutely fucking retarded, their pathing is atrocious.Being an adventuring marksman is the ideal fantasy.
>>581045981FUARKING BASEDi wish/hope warmode will be a thing on pve servers.especially the RP realm
>>581046043That sure was a lot of incoherent buzzwords.
So will I get to report people who don't speak English when I check the English-only option?
*squats down and farts on wowf* dogshit game LMAO
>>581045802>>581046084i saw
>>581046095Yeah okay I've always mained hunter as well and your opinion is retarded. Prasetroon faggot nigger.
>>581045981>t.
Are we gonna get the chink option to hide the bone bits on our undead? I hope not
can't decide whether to roll fem skelf shaman or fem nelf priest
>>581045246>>581045751I want a ranged weapon and to be a marksman not to use animals. Long live lone wolf.
>>581046107There is no war mode. You can flag yourself in the traditional way by toggling it on or attacking a flagged NPC but you won't be shared into a war mode shard
>>581045875Kinda just how it goes. It's a lot easier for them to make new assets with the tools they use for retail. OSRS uses better textures for new assets as well now and people have gotten used to it
>>581046095I'm heavily considering SV Lone Wolf
>>581046146You can just toggle english only
>be me>big muscular gigachad fury warrior orc exploring new zones>stumble upon this weird blue boy elfwhat do i do?
Watching old machinimas and playing WCIII reforged since I got the whale bundle, quite comfy.
>>581046146Hopefully, not seeing Spanish, German and what have you would be such a blessing.
>>581045246They should go further with it.Give Shammies a [Reject the Elements] talent that increases damage/healing by 5% for every totem type not summoned.Or Druids could get [Singleminded Fury] that gives a stacking buff for every 15 seconds your in combat without shifting forms.
>>581046130LMFAO GET FUCKED, wtf you going to do? saar about it in the tranny simp discord? LMFAOBROWNS, TRANNYS, POORS, FURFAGS ALL BTFOH Y P EYPE
>>581046107it's called /pvp and you can pvp against others who also /pvp
>>581046307>You can just toggle english onlyyeah but so can they, regardless if they intend to or can speak it
>>581046223This is me. Orc warlock though.
>>581045875>they made wow 2 without telling their fanbase because if it was stated openly the ones who have spent all their time on retail would riot.makes more sense than a classic plus that is using so much retail stuff.
>>581046342retard
>>581045921Can't wait until all the "let's /spit and ignore elf" players instantly and immediately stammer and cuck out at the first dungeon party where 3 out of 5 members are SkyGODs
>>581046315HugCherishWrite a fluff-based fanfic
>>581046315raise him to be strong and be a good role model to him.
>>581042667what?
>>581046347huehuehue I will laugh when your shard is nothing but Ragnaros spics playing blue elves
>>581046205Why dont you main your pinhead out of your rancid asshole? Useless bag of shitskin meat. Your retarded tamagochi boar wants to eat only fruit so you better fly across 7 zones to buy high enough level apples.
>>581046317I also got the bundle, but I don't wanna start RoC without the Definitive Edition skins!
>PvEDadgamer dragon slayers, streamers and world first GOGOGOGO parsefags>PvPAdderall snorting, 20 hour a day playing no-lifers camping lowbies to cope with their childhood bullying>RPGigachads. Social butterflies. Actual "characters". Walk up RP'ers. Creativity. Interactivity. Harmony. Lore. Waifus.
>>581045291>horde party>dalaranLOL ur not going anywhere hordecuckdalaran has a strict shoes only policyNEVER EVER
damn pally looking GOATED in forever. potentially the best tank and top dps which it kind of should be considering how bad the class is in vanilladefinitely a good sign to move away from the warrior meta. hopefully warrior is really nerfed too
>>581046447/spit won't even be available at launch sadly
>>581045875If they want to have a game that looks like classic; fine. If they want to have a game that looks like retail; fine. But fucking pick one. If the new armor looks so great then they should be replacing all the N64 looking classic armor so it looks at least coherent.
>>581046434Retail players have vastly less reason to be upset unless they are mountsmogscheevos fags (and we'll see if any of that carries over in some way)Retail gear is made obsolete every three months, level cap every year since this retarded "saga" started
>>581046561gonna flag pvp on the RP realm but yes you are correct
>>581045291Why is the woman leading?
the real question is male or female tauren. female taurens are apparently wider than male taurens and get stuck in more place but I will have a beautiful bovine babe to look at at all times
>My flesh may have withered, but my faith has not. The Light does not abandon its champions, even in death. Undead Paladins are the definition of SOVL
>>581045481sovl.................
>>581046668yep. paladin mains run this general.
>>581045013That's just way too much SP at that low a level...
>>581046561I fell for this meme once, but the horde of futa fags and sexual deviants knocked me out of that fantasy.never play RP realms, you have been warned.
>>581046738femtaur is bis
>>581043559grim
>>581044508>The Hall of ThanesThot>Ruins of LordaeronUC top>Excavation Site: WetlandsEx sit wet>City of DalaranDally>The Drowned Citygurgle>Krol'dok Strongholdkys>Alcaz Prisongay king jail (Varian is retconned to be gay in Forever)>Blackmaw Holdnig>Shapers Terracesetback zone
>>581046731Orcs and tauren are dumb and the forsaken doesn't care
>>581046561>Walk up RP'ers. Creativity. Interactivity. Harmony. Lore. Waifus.Half of GW2's RP community are mary-sue can't do no wrong self inserts, and More than half of XIV's RP community are ERPing furries.What will Forever's RP community be?
>>581046561RP are a bunch of troons erping as a woman though. But yeah not false otherwise
>>581046731
>>581046315>>581046449>>581046472why are you tranny freaks even here? just go back to retail general or better yet join the 41%.
>>581046525yeah sure, keep telling yourself that poor fag.what hardware we running boys, im going to be FOGGMAXXING.
>>581046561Hardcore gives you all of those
>>581046491Aggrend hinted at this. Said in one of the panels:I'm paraphrasing but he said "Spoiler alert, you will come to know how the Boulderstone ogres tie into the story of the Horde."
>>581045694Apparently a bunch of recipes are for HC servers. Sounds like instead of getting rid of petri they're doubling down on safety net items.
>>581046748>proceed to murder civilians in hillsbrad foothills and torture people to death
>>581046015wdym, 30sec is huge for wsg. u can skysight into sprint as feral, u legit cross wsg mid in 15s
>>581046872>he's a foggot too
>megaserversDO YOU SMELL L LL L L LLWHAT THE LARGELY BROWN COMMUNITYIS COOKING
>>581046061Probably whenever housing gets ported over to forever
>>581046773Don't lower rank spells scale less with SP? I doubt it'll warp balance that much until endgame
I'll be camping the entrance to the dungeons day one if you get killed by a group of skyborne thats me and my friends
>>581046534Sounds based. Enjoy getting faceraped and stunned by my pet while you struggle to kill me with your puny little 10% damage increase kek
>>581046998>plays kick the baby with humans buried up to their necks
>>581046561are the streamers really rolling on pve? shits boutta be hella boring
>>581046561>Dadgamer dragon slayersIs this a bad thing?
can lorefags explain why undead paladins do not work?
>>581047085Nah they always do pvp lol
The gentleman's shaman spec.
>>581047085They're all going to migrate to HC for content farming
>>581047015they make some delicious food so
>>581047085After what Advertise did to Asmorglobs asshole I don't think they'll ever roll PvP ever againOutside of dedicated PvP'ers like Payo ofc ppc
>>581046801>UC topsovl>>581047015>language: english>LOS CRUZADOS ESCARLATA< reclutar para core, DISCORD ACTIVO
>>581046342good ideas. more options for playstyles is always a good thing
>>581046561>lodoss posteralright. you're alright. this is gonna be great.
>>581047156Is Lava Burst really so low value?
>>581047131Undead are an abomination to the light, the light literally destroys/incinerates/dissolves them
>>581046561>WaifusThe waifus are men, btw.
>>581047131undead paladins are possible in the loreforsaken paladins make no sense since the forsaken are universally evilpaladins can't be evil
>>581045353That would actually be kino. Also you have to sacrifice your level 60 to make a new death knight.
>>581046561>Harmony. Lore. Waifus.Go back to your general where you came from you fag and tell them to come play WoW Forever
>>581046748>For the Light! For justice! For peace!>gets to Hillsbrad and starts slaughtering innocent farmers and their families I think it's outrageously stupid. At least Blood Elves are (or at least were) just outright evil bastards who stole paladin powers from a Naaru they have chained up in their underground sex dungeon. An undead paladin who says the kind of thing in your post would be an anti-hero, abandoned by the Alliance but certainly not allied with the Horde.
anyone know how the controller players will integrate?How the fuck can they see the cooldown and cast 12 skills with 4 buttons
>>581047156this is just NS ele shaman shit, same thing will happen to rogue with cold blood prep being viable still.although mutilate looks good this time around, maybe i can finally play a dagger rogue in phase 1
>>581047156not an experienced shaman player eh? >any mage or kicking mob can lock out your entire kit Lava burst is basically mandatory for pvp. Unless pve only in that case then do whatever.
>>581046748>The Light does not abandon its champions, even in death.I gotta disagree. This line is very sovless. Comes off as sanctimonious and wholesome simultaneously, very modern audience writing. Also sounds like it's written to be promotional and to callback to A'dal in WOTLK, like it's an insecure remark made in response to someone questioning undead paladin.Better line would be "The Light is with me, even in death." More succinct, it speaks to a positive rather than absence of a negative which is more natural and masculine.
>>581047246No fucking shot. It's the best spell Elemental has.
>>581047279Yes, that is the intent. That exact hardcore character must die to become the DK.For real though everyone would hate and whine about that massively, still cool idea I thought.
>>581047248explain inquisitor fairbanks?explain sir zeliak?
WOW 1 WAS MEARLY A SETBACK
>>581047330play dumb easy classes like rogue and watch them turn around really slowly
>>581047246It has a longer cast time than lightning bolt and only does +20% dmg with flame shock instead of always critting. So unless they buff it's numbers by release it's kinda shit.
>>581047252Obsolete, retconned lore, chuddiePlay the campaign, Forsaken are now misunderstood victims just trying to make a home for themselves
>>581046909that just implied they're a faction, not playable
>>581047183I made both the posts you replied to. :)
>undead paladinsi'm actually ok with this as a paladin main because its just another reason to go crusadin' against the horde and kill zombie abomination """paladins""" that don't belong in my game haha
>>581047252>the forsaken are universally evilrly? they just wanna kill the scourge that made them and the living that rejected them
>>581046561Honestly insane how this kino classic art completely btfos this dogshit slop 581047307
>>581047358This but unironically, Zeliek not being in control and being forced to burn himself with the light was kino
>>581042717you're wrong, it seems like a lot because there are so many groups, but most of the people in these groups already migrated to foreverFOREVERFOREVERFOREVER
according to WoWhead mage has polymorph: Cow
>>581047478
>Went onto a RP server because I heard the stories of how based it is and how full of rich character building it is too>Came across a band of 2 Dwarver warriors and a Gnome.>Went over to greet them>"Great tae meet ya, how is the Loch treating ya? Stay vigalent, rumor has it that the Dark Irons are becoming more active in this region, up to no good no doubt.">They all burst out laughing and call me a puff>Immediately deleted my char and went to play on a PvP server insteadFuck RP servers. Never again.
>>581047419Explain what? Warcraft already had retarded shit since the beginning that didn't follow the lore because of the rule of cool. Yes.
>>581047547>they're not evil, they just want to kill everyoneI think you've got what it takes to be a Blizzard writer.
>>581047351>>any mage or kicking mob can lock out your entire kitquoth the pvp chud; gentlemen are pure pve and due to skill will never be in a situation they get kicked
>>581047547do the undead quests in hillsbrad>>581047469even assuming this is true - they became evil subsequently. wc3 lore doesn't trump forever lore within the forever timeline
>>581047569Lodoss sucks ass, but the art is good, and its influence is undeniable.
>>581047396Would be one of the very few things to drive me to play HardcoreI like doing stupidly risky things during leveling to keep it entertaining but I guess as a BM Hunter or something you could just do easy quests and grind mobs to 60 with barely any risk
>>581047636>letting other dwarves embarrass you and not firing backmaybe they were right anon
>>58104763690% of rp realm players only care about erp
>>581047662that ain't everyonethey're okay with orcs tauren trolls n the horde in general. hell even elves, gnomes, dwarves. they just hate the humans that abandoned them, AND the literal big bad scourge + lich king?>>581047687okay the hillsbrad shit i have no argument for, them dudes were just straight up irredeemably evil for no reason.
i might finally play warrior this time in vanilla, for the fourth time replaying it
>>581047478You're retarded if you honestly think that Ogres aren't coming to the Horde sooner than later.
>>581047707>and its influence is undeniable.Influence on a dead basket weaving forum, 500 view WoW "content creators" and on shitty porn games?Wow really making it's mark on human history.
>>581045124>S tier>can't heal/tankWarlocks will probably be the most desired DPS because of their unique and very sought after utility. And if their DPS is above average you'll get into groups effortlessly. It also helps that they are the least played pure DPS class.
>>581047761>they're okay with orcs tauren trolls n the horde in general.they view them as retarded animals that they're sociopathically using to further their own goals
>>581047758>>581047636the trick is unfortunately the lamest thing: a guild.having a guild that aligns with what you want to do with your character is the only way to RP in any mmo nowadays. they make events centered on stuff you like, with stakes as high or as low as you like.
>>581047636They would have changed their tune if you rolled up as a Dreanei female with a big futa cock instead of playing a lame dorf.
>>581047636Man I would love if it was that.Unfortunately what RP servers actually are is people making characters that rape the lore thrice over. You will never find a normal, green orc rper in Orgrimmar or a Darkspear troll, it's all "my character is a Kyrian come to see what mortals are like in Azeroth" or "my void elf is possessed by an eldritch entity..." or "I'm a Tanari human from a hidden lost culture that's totally not Wakanda" or "my goblin has a mechanical heart and it powers her mech suit."
>>581047804I WILL seek the ruinous powers. I WILL unearth forgotten secrets. And I WILL be the linchpin summoner for the lazy 99% parsing warriors.
>>581047830yeah, they're okay with them.forsaken shouldn't have been a race aligned with anyone but we're way beyond that now.
>>581047796I wish ogres were coming but I don't see them making a race that will only sell to the 150 redditors and anons who would play them
>>581047758People on vanilla rp actually do real roleplay while playing the game instead of just sitting in goldshire gooning.
>>581047358AI written post
>>581047914>>581047804summon plz
>>581047013>ye...yeah saar u r gay thenLMFAO HOLY KEK, i have never seen trannys,3rd worlders, and fur fags btfo so hard before. this is 9/11 for homobrowns. WOWF CHADS WON
>>581047431Instead of blue elves they could have taken the opportunity to depict the Blood Elves before Kael went completely off the rails but was already doing cool shit like torturing naaruBut noooooooooooo
>>581047708Hardcore is as deadly as you want it to be, if you just overlevel a bit and grind mobs you are almost 100% save, mostly streamers just get themselves into retarded situations so they can make the basedface when they die, farm some clicks and reroll something else
>>581040258>No MaievGAAAAY
>>581047798It's influence on otaku media in general is pretty fucking massive. It's probably the second most influential fantasy property in Japan after Dragon Quest. It was their first real exposure to that sort of high fantasy storytelling, so the fact that it's shit was irrelevant to them.
Better question Warlock-Chads, we're all rolling Orc for peak fantasy, right?
>tfw ill be able to clear naxx in my prebis because theres no power creep
>>581046872>Ubuntu>Intel CPU>5070 Ti>Only 2TB of SSDWho's really the poorfag here?
>>581048067>because theres no power creepRemains to be seen.
>>581047908I think my main issue with playing RP would be that I wouldn't want to RP a female character, but I do like my slutmogs and female animations for certain class/race combos
>>581048056Obviously
>>581047993Kael went off the rails in WC3 you retard. Forever is still set AFTER WC3.
>>581048056Nope, human female
DWARFSHAMANHALF RESTOHALF ELEHEAL MY ALLIESELECTROCUTE THE H*RDEBE DESIRED IN ALL FORMS OF CONTENTBE GAWD OF PVPBE A DWARF
>>581048056no
>>5810479693g
>>581048098yeah. fem nelf melee animations are so fucking good.
>>581047547but isn't that everyone?
>>581048098I play RP servers but don't RP myself. They just feel a lot more alive.
>>581048046She is far too sex for this world (of warcraft)>>581048098WHORE! WHORE! (please have sex with me)
>>581047993Pay 30 bucks in a year to find out anon....Why do you think Skelfs are unable to play Priest, Paladin and Warlock, the exact three classes Blood Elf can play :^)?
undead can use the light. picrel is an interview with chris metzen and alex afrasiabi from 2010it's reasonable to say that forsaken paladins shouldn't be playable because they would be very rare, but being undead does not mean they would disintegrate from casting a flash of light.
>>581048178so are the forsaken really evil?
>>581048056I am waiting for ogres before I do a warlock>implyingShut the fuck upUntil then for me it's>orc>male>lime skin>shamanYep, time for wow
>>581048056For me it's Troll
>>581047687>wc3 lore doesn't trump forever lore within the forever timelineIt clearly choreographs where Blizz wants to take the Forsaken now, regardless of quests written almost a quarter of a century ago. The new campaign is literally the most sympathetic portrayal of the Forsaken ever, including Sylvanas herself.
>>581048054Oh I genuinely thought you were talking about the AI and it was called lodoss or whatever.Yeah the art is cool mang
>>581048067Watch the tier before Naxx have half its item budget in anti-undead passives
>>581047926yeah they’re only making elves from now on. so trve………..
>>581048203the scarlet crusade paladins are evil for wanting to kill undead? what?
I really wish skelf didn't have the mage/shaman faction restriction.Kinda stupid.
>>581048090realistically what can be done about it if they plan for it to go on forever at 60?you either nerf or buff classes like crazy, power creep gear or each new set thats specific to that raidand since each new raid should be able to be cleared without any of said new set, it is what it is
>>581047636you find a guild with the same RP style as you anon.Walkup RP is a dice roll
Please nuke macros
>>581047707Lodoss is top tier only beaten by logh Nigger
>>581048203>2010That was fucking cataclysm
>>581047993nah I always hated fighting WC3 lore carackters in raids, they should have made WC4 and kept telling the lore in the RTS, MMO storytelling is a slog
why does the staff of westfall have like 40 healing spellpower and 20 damaging spellpower?isn't that more than 60 blues?
>>581047993Sky elves seems like something that higherups demanded and the devs had to come up with a solution>you MUST include elves on both sides so chinks play the game>they MUST both be the same kind of elf>they MUST be a new type of elf>they MUST be a paid purchaseThey are so awkwardly and soullessly shoved into Forever that there had to be some corporate meddling
>>581048056Cant roll Skelf Warlock so I guess yeah
>>581048260unless they rewrite all the forsaken quests, it's too late to whitewash them. forsaken are just pure evil from level 1 to 35 whenever their quests fall off
>>581048203They were on coke at that time, they're clearly wrong
>>581048046Her VA can barely speak.
>>581048279Nah, Record of Lodoss War is a whole ass rabbit hole.
>>581048326If I had my way each new raid would require resist items etc that have low drop rates in all the previous raids
>skyborne druid>undead paladin>gnome priest >human warrior
>>581047908Not true. I played on RP server and while there were indeed a lot of "My awesome guy is actually a dragon in disguise" and the like, there were actually a ton of people who played very down-to-earth characters. I found one who even was meta about it. A Night Elf Sentinel who was more or less a WC3 basic archer unit deeply frustrated that for thousand years of her life things were pretty peaceful and for the past 20 years world is nearly getting destroyed every few months. Also there was this very basic human guardsman who was trying to teach swear words to anyone who claimed didn't know common language. It's honestly a ton of fun. I guess it depends where you hang out
>>581048396it is rather amusing that they are supposed to be the selling point of the 29.99€ package
One name was already hard enough
>>581048056aren't orc warlocks the best racials? due to their pet skill
>>581048410SEXSEXXXXXX
>>581048487>oh resist gear? we dont need it, DE
>>581048356I've read generic Narou slop that unabashedly rips off Lodoss and is still substantially better than it. It's pretty shit.
I hope skyborne will face prejudice by the playerbase and will be excluded from dungeons and stuff. Great RP potential digital racism.
>>581048046Why would Maiev be a boss when A: the whole point is to deal with the criminals in the prison, and B: she's too busy lusting after Illidan to be concerned?
>>581048552No.Any DPS who can be a Gnome, should play a Gnome.Its not even close.
>>581048548>[first name] samathere, done.
>>581048690If Blood Elves didn't experience digital racism what makes you think Sky Elves will?
>>581048351i agree but for different reasons
>>581048526Fyi this anon is lying and I have no idea why or what he gets out of it
>>581048046Why would Maiev hang out in a prison when the prisoner already escaped
>>581048552that racial isn’t in forever
>>581048748We didnt know better back then. We've become more enlightened and racist now
>>581048240100% of them, all the time? No. But for the most part? Yeah, they're evil as fuck. Human experimentation, chemical warfare, cannibalism, etc. The Forsaken are by and large fucking monsters.
>>581048690>prejudicethey will make up 80-90% of both factions
>>581047993>Kael went completely off the rails but was already doing cool shit like torturing naaruyou still don't get it.The Naaru aren't REAL. NOT ANYMORE. The draenei are just the broken. VELEN IS GAY AND FAKE
>>581048715>>5810488041) So I can jack off to her 2) Because we have absolutely no fucking clue what she was doing in vanilla, she just suddenly showed up in black temple for that retarded dialogue and then disappeared again, and there seems to be legion corruption on the prison which would explain some things.Also remember Maiev is THE leader, she's the warden of the entire fucking prison.
>>581048804This. The raid should have a bunch of no names with retailslop names instead (which it does.)
>>581048552Not in forever. Blood fury does give spellpower now though.
>>581048781probably wants to trick you into thinking RP servers are cool so you join one and get laughed at by dwarves
>>581048548https://www.fantasynamegenerators.com/human-wow-names.php
>>581048856I doubt it normies dont want to pay for shit
>>581048891>Because we have absolutely no fucking clue what she was doing in vanillaWasn't she keeping illidan in jail for 10000 years
>>581048548>Chairdolf Sitler>Max Power>Al Coholic>Homer Sexual>Ivana Tinkle >Anita Bath
>Growing impatient waiting for results when his goal is so close in reach, The J'lor opens a rift to the Maw within Naxxramas, acting as a new wing to the raid.We all know this will happen.
>>581048548People can finally make proper meme names like Oprah Windfury.
>blizzard is going to release wc3 expansions that coincide with forever so everything is canon
lol
I unironically hope they go all-in on resistance gating for hardcore raiding in WOWF.When done right they're good and fun actually, and can link all the sectors of the end-game (professions, 5-mans, raids).They work very well with horizontal progression. Instead of Tier 1 gating Tier 2 through raw power, Tier A can drop good resistance gear for Tier B, while the non-resistance gear power level is relatively flat except for rare drops and end-boss drops.
>>581048858>The Naaru aren't REAL. NOT ANYMORE. The draenei are just the broken. VELEN IS GAY AND FAKEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHOLY CRAP that's some WISHFUL COPE my friend, thanks for the laugh.
>Gnomes: Forever
>>581048932>There's so many Sky Elves that there's 3 different civilizations comprised of them and they're physiologically different enough to have different racialsArthas did a really shit job killing elves it seems
>>581049064>World of Gnomecraft: Forever
>>581048993Illidan is gone anon, Tyrande freed him in wc3.Maiev is the warden of the entire jail so her job doesn't begin and end with Illidan, she might have her autistic adventures to go chase him every now and then but still has to be there.
>>581048932>shatter curse>let's make alliance warlocks even rarer on pvp servers
>>581048548Chuck Norris
>>581048891>we have absolutely no fucking clue what she was doing in vanillaWe know she was chasing Illidan. She probably isn't even around the prison because it's the last place she would expect him to be.
>>581049013even the retail team wants to forget the jailer happened
>>581049118o :^)
>I hope they do a thing they obviously won't do with WoW: Forever.Why is this post so common?
>>581048548Goon lordTel avivAmeri fatFat chud
Ogres will just be reskinned Kultiran even if you do get them.
>>581047478Yeah bro, he just specifically said that for no reason. Like we're supposed to care about some rando ogre faction that will supposedly have zero relevance outside of the zone they're in. Makes a lot of sense.
>>581048548Leeroy Jenkins
>>581048548Chad Dono
>>581049075the lore is that they're an offshoot of the highborn, so their civilization split 10,000 years ago. they fled azshara and became rent boys for air elementals, who gave them the flying island.
>>581049013Forever is all according to his plan. The new timeline will end with us working together
>>581048548Nate Higgers
>>581049040The Bloblin is cute. What does a fem Bloblin look like?
>>581042536>>581042594Yes but it's like the rexxar campaign, so no basebuilding.
>>581049064What a horrible fucking fate, we got classic+ but it's gnome nation.Blizzard fix this shit NOW.
It's very cathartic that 80% of alliance will be Gnome players purely for the racials.The little dick faction because they need to roll on the OP race
If I buy a paypig pack for Forever now, does the 30 days of WoW game time apply immediately or can I save it for Forever launch?
>>581049064>70% server population are gnomeslove to see it
>>581049013god the jailer story was so pants on hat retarded
>private server owner shut his shit down because he’s gonna play wow forever instead Lmfao
I hope they dont give us female ogres with huge tits and fat asses i would hate that so much
>>581049271will it be cathartic when the gnome rogue whips out his third leg horse cock and flawlessly stunlocks you to death?
>>581049167Examples?
>>581049282it says it activates on launch of Forever
>>581049307classic exsists because of pserverssame thing happened with nost
>>581049307>Source: the voices in my head
>>581048384yes the scaling is fucked, we're going to be doing wotlk level 70 damage with dungeon set 1 at 60
>>581049282It only starts ticking on November 3rd
>>581049040Wait why the fuck didn't they just use pandarens for ogres?It's RIGHT there, what the fuck?It also instantly solves the problem of female ogres fuck
>>581048932I still can't get over how broken gnomes are. All 4 of their racials are nuts.
>>581049167The MMO fanbase is by far the most susceptible to idea guys coming up with shit that only works on paper. It's why there have been so many scam mmo projects in the past.
>>581042368I bought the collector pack. I haven’t played since wotlk.
>>581048589Oh the novel, yeah the writing is quite average desu
>>581048548my name was always a compound of two words so it works fine for me
>>581049373see:>>581039484OH NO NO NO
>>581048852humans n orcs and trolls n night elves all do some fucked up shit they're probably considered evil by someone
>>581048932>gnome chads walking around with 137 rage
>>581049041Res gating bosses are fucking cancer, especially with Classic bag sizesTurtles highest tier raid had a boss that required arcane res and the crafted items for it were insanely expensive for a long time, getting 40 people with full arcane res filtered guilds for a long timeI don't necessarily think filtering/gating is a bad thing, but res gear just feels like an awful way to do it as its useless in all other content and clogs up bags
>>581049167post 3 examples
>>581042536don't they can't be priests
Would you spend 30 dollars on blackborne humans? Starting zone would be a revamped stranglerthorn.
>>581048804>goat with smaller boobs than the elfNO
>>581049282And does the beta require a sub? Honestly pretty unclear stuff
I WANT NAGA*DRAENEI*AND GOLBINS*AND I'M DONE ASKIN'.*Playable on the race my friends choose to roll on.
>>581049628The bundle that comes with the beta gives you 30 days game time
>>581049532Res is great because it extends content, makes old shit usable and adds an extra useful stat.
>>581049126fuck is that on all the time for only the 8s duration?
>horizontal progressionWhere? New quests, dungeons, raids, BGs, all of this is vertical content. Nobody is gonna run old raids for 5% increased water breathing on bracers.
someone post the paypig options pic
>>581049674Which activates on launch, not for the beta period.
>>581049628the classic beta did
>>581043243>they make killing players give xpCan you imagine?
Will you experience the Barrens one more time?
>>581049723What if there will be an underwater boss and those bracers will be integral to survive the fight?
>>581049723obviously it only applies to the endgame
>>581049673nagas and goblins would always be horde no matter what
Just pre-ordered the Heroic Pack
>>581049723>New quests, dungeons, raids, BGs, all of this is vertical content. No
buy the fcking elf
>>581049771hope they keep the /bored interaction in placeyour character will sometimes whistle the Barrens theme
>>581049723>horizontal prog while levelingu must be retarded
Why are you retards having a meltdown over Gnomes as if the other radials don't have lots of good racial? Trolls can regen 50% of their total HP now for example
Does the Legacy 'talent' that makes class shit not cost reagents mean that Warlock stuff won't cost Soul Shards?
>>581049832mmmmmmmmnyo!
>>581049771watch the updated content turn barrens into one of the best zones of all time>shitload of quests everywhere>tons of space for camping>hyjal overlooking on the distance>wailing caverns right there>can split to like 4 different areas
>>581049723Retard most of the new stuff is for leveling, new zones and quests and dungeons that offer more leveling freedom. The only new endgame content for now is new raids
>>581049771Of course. I need to help my friend Mankrik.
I guess I have to make do with sky elf mag siiiiigh
>>581049479>fresh from feeding prisoners of war poisoned pumpkins, and flaying civilians:>It's a hero of the light!
>>581049886probably not lmao they hate warlocks
This time I'm getting Thunderfury for sure. And Scarab Lord. And Might of Menethil. And the Zurubian Tiger. And Deatholme Charger. And kill Kel'Thuzad.This time for sure...
>>581048932Why is Sword spec 2% crit and the others just 1%Not like the other races have better racials otherwise, especially Dwarves, Find Treasure is fucking useless
>>581049451No, the anime. And the publication on which it's based. It's just not very good.
>>581049886it says vendor bought reagents wish it worked with shards
How long until this shit comes to WoWF?
>>581049348>>581049551>>581049041>>581045353 >>581046107
dumbass question, but are there any class builders up? I wanna plan my build
>>581043357You're not forced to do any of that if you're not a meta slave
>>581049949you and me both, sis. this time for sure.
>>581048396They could have just been high elves and blood elves but apparently Metzen nixed the idea. I still don't understand how everyone hasn't realized what a hack the guy is by now.
>>581049939>cata questsnot canon
>>581049532True. Maybe could do something like consumable items dropped from precious raids required for mechanics in future raids, like douses in MC.
I hope we get more quillboar content
>>581049990did u even read the OPall we got is talents, after beta in a few days we'll have more
>>581049972>non-censored slutmogsIt can't come fast enough. And neither can I.
>>581049949Since content probably won't be phased out you could reasonably eventually get all of those besides Scarab Lord.
>>581049779They’ll never do that because it would be completely retarded>>581049780Okay and again. Where is it? We have level 60 on day 1. New raids drop after a month and we’ll be farming the new dungeons on top of the ones we already know. There is zero fundamental difference between this release and classic 2019. You log in, level up, farm prebis, and raid asap for better gear. All of this is vertical.>>581049801Yes>>581049861>not once did I say “while leveling”mudhut hands>>581049916Okay and? They still promised horizontal content and gave us a release schedule identical to their prior 20 years of vertical content
>>581049949>Zurubian Tiger.
>>581049861That's a BLEAK fucking post from a mazie, holy fuck. You all should be ashamed to share a game, let lone a general with this guy.
>>581049954I hate u and your opinion is trash no offence anon hope you have a good day
>>581049972I give it 1 year.Everyone was moving to private servers so they needed to create Classic to pull them back.When that didn't work, they DMCA'd private servers and stole the popular mechanics (like campfires) and released it as Forever.Clearly there's a roadmap to monetize, but the fish has to bite, then get hooked, then you milk.
>>581049972Just toggle it off bro!Probably one year after release I could see them selling store stuff that carries over to retail and forever since HD models.
>>581049878Troll racial is extremely situation. We already know what it's like because Zandalari have it on retail.Gnome Rogue in particular is what's really broken. +5% energy and being able to make their first 3 opening moves cost half energy and deal 10% more damage is blatantly broken. They also can't be kited because of escape artist.
>>581050009those are classic quests
>>581049894you’re a 30 year old man
>>581050087>RetardedYou do know it's blizzard right? Never say never. They do retarded shit all the time.
>>581049979You know what? You got me. I just tune shit like that out to the extent that I barely notice. You won't, anon. I kneel.
>Asha was the driving force behind getting Classic+ madeApologize.
>>581049878>Trolls can regen 50% of their total HP now for exampleIf you move a single step or do any ability it instantly cancels it.It's a massive meme compared to gnomes just being broken as sin
>>581049949>he hasnt zugzug KTstop raiding with losers
can't wait not to be able to play thurs because the servers are going to be fucked
>>581043357>Human mage>Free trinket for stuns>See through stealth >More crit if wielding a sword (even as a caster weapon racials affect all classes now, no more separate crit stats)>ARRRGHHHHHHHH THEY'RE *FORCING* ME TO PLAY GNOME
>>581050240She probably actually was which is pretty funny
3 more sleeps until beta
Why do you guys care about racials, the point of classic is not to be balanced right?
>>581050087>YesNo.More content without powerlevel increases would not be progression at all. It would just be more content.It's horizontal instead of vertical because all effective progress will not to be wiped each time there is a major update to the game.
>>581050269blizzard hasn't had a scuffed launch in years for retail or classic
so does everyone agree that sky elf boys belong to Orcs?
>>581049979Resistance gateing is basically inevitable, find a new one.Death knights will happen for sure just not now, that one counts for like 75%
>>581050009Holy self report
>>581049771I killed so many centaurs and harpies man.......
>>581050279Perception is shit outside of arena where you know you're fighting someone that can stealth and have a rough idea of where he is.
>>581050240Ty Asha for creating the biggest cope to come this Thursday and November 4th. The levels of >I-ITS G-GOOD (inhales tank)Are going to be delicious
>>581049832already boughted
>>581050143Campfires for rested XP was a thing as far back in Everquest Online.The /camp command in vanilla 2004 WoW was even a nod to it. They didn't stole shit from Turtle. Learn the history before you start yapping.
>>581050323>it’s horizontal in that it’s nothing at all like OSRS or GW2, the two most horizontal MMOs on the market that have been the standard for horizontal progression for over a decade nowYeah anon you’re super smart :)
>>581050346they belong to human ret bvlls
>>581050240No one said she was a shitty businesswoman. And now she's uniquely poised to capitalize on Sony's immeasurable fuck ups. Let's see if she can pull it off. Also would.
>>581050172is the gnome racial really 50% resource reduction? I dont see any confirmation on what the actual number is. seems like it would be overly strong on arcane mage as well
>>581050172>getting all your HP back is extremely situational That's just one example too, there are tons of great racials to go around
>>581050240bwc whore
>>581050346Everyone agrees that you're a jeet spammer
>>581050314Why do you think everyone is talking about how unbalanced the new racials are?
>>581050325Because no ones playing that shit lmaoEven on sod there was some issues and there was way too many fucking people so you could get stuck for hours in 1 singular quest
>>581050421Ilevels will go up with each new raid. And it will be horizontal. Both factual btw.
>They got all the balding classic millennials uncs to pay for retail reset by calling it classic plus HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAAHAAHAHAHAHHHAAAAAHHAHAHHHHHAHAHAAAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHQHQHAHQHEHAHAHAH
Harpies would have been the better choice. They fit in the classic aesthetic and they're fuckable enough.
>>581050419is it confirmed that campfires will give rested xp like they did in turtle?
>>581050323>It's horizontal instead of vertical because all effective progress will not to be wiped each time there is a major update to the game.You don't know this and it's strange to me how you trust Blizzard implicitly after so many letdowns.
>Performance Bonus (0/5) - You have a 5% chance to receive 100% increased Merchant Favor when you turn in a crate to the Azeroth Commerce Authority or Durotar Supply and Logistics.ah shit, not sure how I feel about this coming back. it was nice to be able to sell trade items
>>581050240Metzin was rehired in 2023,WELL before Asha.And we know it takes 2-3 years to overhaul a game. So yea, no
>>581050501we dont want flying mounts
>>581050346We agree that the anon who was made that character actually had sovl and that you're a worthless faggot.
>>581050486>ilvl will be meaningless>this means it’s horizontal>i am very smart
>>581050431we can share them if you want but us Orcs are their rightful owners>>581050479
>>581050501>they're fuckabletrue
>>581050501Racials?
>>581050517It is literally in the name of the name. It's the entire point dude.
>>581050404The open world and BGs exist, stealth mobs exist, we'll probably get arenas too
>>581050458It is indeed 50%. We saw it from soda's stream.
>>581050325Nice joke anon
>>581050536i didnt play SOD someone gib a tldr pls, rimjob will be given by next guy who posts sex elf smut
>>581050536>ah shit, not sure how I feel about this coming back. it was nice to be able to sell trade itemsI'm perfectly fine with it and makes more sense on a more robust system with stuff like camping and expanded professions.It makes meme crafts and materials actually useful.
>>581050536it more or less solved the hyperinflation caused by incursions and gave people reasons to run dungeons after their prebis. I think it was very nice
>>581050595Literally just copy paste the skyniggas racials
>undead paladins feeding prisoners of war poisoned food to study how painful the death is>undead paladins murdering defenseless farmers>undead paladins helping the royal apothecary society to create more painful diseases and poisonsFOR THE LIGHT!!!
>>581050580Why would ilevel be meaningless? It would make no sense for them to launch more raids with gear that is comparable to past raids.
>>581043423>>portals to all capital cities inside each capital city making traveling the world obsoletePlease be true
>>581050595human man are instantly stunned near them for 5 seconds
>>581050240Everybody thought Metzen was doing retail but he was doing alternate timeline classic the whole time and Asha kicked blizzard in the neck for ever letting it get this far... I kneel
>>581050595>Racials?+5 to breeding with human men
>>581050419/camp in everquest logs you out the same way it does in wow. Everquest invented the language "To camp" something ie to sit where it spawns and kill stuff. Nothing to do with exp other than the exp you would gain during the camp. Eventually they added actual campfires to EQ that give you buffs but that was after wow launched
>WoW has always had a tank problem since it's more responsibility and less fun>Our solution is to force every warrior and paladin that might want to tank a dungeon to respec and wear a shield>And we'll make it so those tanks won't want to run any given dungeon more than onceWho is in charge of this shit?
>>581042368https://wowprivateservers.vercel.app/blog/is-blizzard-unoriginal-warcraft-starcraft/
>>581050679>lorefags malding endlessly at undead pallysrolling fem undead pally for literally this reason
>>581050679if you're a real paladin you just dont do those quests, fool
>>581050467It's a 6s channel that gets interrupted by ANY sort of damage. So you need to hard cc your target AND not have a dot, pet, or mob on you just to use it in combat.
>>581050683If an item from MC is BiS but it’s 50 lives lower than an item from Naxx, the item level never mattered. That’s my point. I don’t know why you think item level has anything to do with it.
>>581050679Undead had priests in Vanilla though.
>>581050467>getting all your HP back(if you stand still)(and don't move your camera)(and don't use any abilities)(and you only get 50% hp back)....or you could just pop a fucking pot
>>581050598Are you actually arguing that Blizzard will perfect Horizontal Progression because they named the game "Forever?"Is that your actual fucking argument?>>581050559And this guy thinks Metzen came up with Forever and just walked it up to senior staff and executives? Am I in a thread full of fucking retards?
>raidlog simulator>again
>>581050776theyre canonically shadow prieststhere's no shadow paladins yet since those are just DKs
why do I get the feeling that the classic devs all prefer retail more
>>581050721It's not very unique. Other races already have it
>>581050574Calm down, in just a few days you will experience us Orcs owning you in beta, sky elf boys are literally our property
>>581050601Yeah, and perception is shit in the open world and BGs, because you generally won't know that you're fighting a rogue before he opens on you and won't have much of an idea of where he is even if you know there's one in the zone.
>>581050679I mean the light isn't "good" it's just believing in something hard enough. Like, if you fervently religiously believed in the dimensional merge then you'd be able to use the light.