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>What is WoW: Forever?
Blizzard's new version of World of Warcraft, based on vanilla WoW. Set in the same Azeroth but expanded upon with new zones, dungeons, raids, quests and much more.

>New Race: Skyborne
Skyborne are available for Horde and Alliance but are not the same Skyborne. There was a cultural shift prior and now different Skyborne are aligned with the different factions. Horde Skyborne get Shaman, Alliance get Mages

>Many new race/class combos including Undead Paladin and Dwarf Shaman

>More than 1k quests added making a 25% increase in quest content alone

>Talent Calculator
https://forevertalents.up.railway.app/#warrior/60/00000000000000000-000000000000000000-0000000000000000000

>When is it being released?
Release date November 4th

>Will there be a beta?
Yes September 17th, you can opt in at https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/forever#blz-optin-1

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/forever#editions
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INV TO ALEX LAYER
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>HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE
Thank you Christ for giving us Aggamen and WoW:Forever
Heil
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>News: 1-60 exp remains the same. Dungeon mobs give less exp, but dungeon quests give more to discourage grinding dungeons
LAUGH AT BOOSTIES, LAUGH AT RETOILETS, LAUGH AT METAFAGGOTS, LAUGH AT WRATHBABIES

LAUGH AT THEM AHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>News: 1-60 exp remains the same. Dungeon mobs give less exp, but dungeon quests give more to discourage grinding dungeons
LAUGH AT BOOSTIES, LAUGH AT RETOILETS, LAUGH AT METAFAGGOTS, LAUGH AT WRATHBABIES

LAUGH AT THEM AHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>News: 1-60 exp remains the same. Dungeon mobs give less exp, but dungeon quests give more to discourage grinding dungeons
LAUGH AT BOOSTIES, LAUGH AT RETOILETS, LAUGH AT METAFAGGOTS, LAUGH AT WRATHBABIES

LAUGH AT THEM AHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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God I fucking love sex elves.
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>tfw finish the best 1-30 leveling experince in the game (elwynn forest, westfall, redridge, duskwood)
>walk into STV
>see lil gnome priest gettin ganked
>not today.jpg
>HoJ, SoC, Holy Strike, Judgement
>undead (faggot) rogue dies
>wow thank you mr. paladin
>heh...no problem lil lady im just doing my job
>light be with you, and kings honor firend. Go forth and purge the lands of the wicked

all in a days work

>sees 3 horde no shoes attempting to rape female gnome priestess in the The Riverglades
>5 paladins charge in
>all 3 horde no shoe transexual rapist get HoJ
>2 based and CHAD codded ret pallys both judment SoC on single orcgger warrior
>orcs head explodes
>troll rouge tries to sprint but another pally gets SoJ off on him and hes slow
>tfw speced PoJ so 20% faster movement speed all the time
> SoC procs on 800 white crit and hits xim for another 750 holy cirt
>troll rogue now has 2 tranny neo vaginas
>other Sky elf shammy is trying to get away aswell
>the group shockadin ques up DF and pops new spell power trinket for +777 spell power
>one shots the trans shamman
>gnome priestess is saved
>"wow by the light, i was almost raped by those transexual nigger folx, but thanks to the order of divine CHADS im safe."
>"heh no issue lil lady, we just hate to see some tranny freaks think they can get away with being rapist, we know the only reason they went after you is because you look like a child, and everyone knows trannys are pedo freaks and also into dog fucking"
>she nods
>how can i ever repay you
>no payment needed, our reward is knowing 3 less trannys are not able to rape children, or so they thought
>light be with you, and kings honor
>Christ is king

vids related
https://youtu.be/CxlRJsQ7p2k?list=RDCxlRJsQ7p2k
https://youtu.be/YL_APKnLtJo?list=RDCxlRJsQ7p2k


PALADINS REPORT IN

>Race
human
>Sex
yes
>SPEC
2h shockadin and dualspec for 1h/shield shockadin

trannys mad btw
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people aren't talking about how strong gnome priest is going to be enough
it's just as good as gnome rogue
please obliterate eureka from the game
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They need to add RP-PVP so I can snuffrape alliance whores
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Soon...
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I can't wait to level through mulgore again :3
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>>581131138
this will be the meta holy pala spec
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can I get some oink oink from you paypiggies?
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trannies are not welcome
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>30% damage split from soul link
>10% damage reduction from molten skin talent
>10% phys reduction or 10% magic reduction from master demonologist
>for some harebrained reason they're letting locks have access to SL/SL in CLASSIC
Realistically how is any other class meant to deal with this?
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You'll own nothing and be happy.
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I just hope they add more fucking pole arms to the game and make melee hunters a thing, it’s the one thing that’s been missing from wow since its inception. It’ll fit so nicely with the in-world RP elements they’ve added aswell. A dwarf/human dragoon with lone wolf cuz pets are for animalfuckers

Yes i know retail has melee hunters i haven’t touched that dogshit since cataclysm.

Guess ill just find out on Thursday
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ok dungeons got nerfed not nerf mages doing those mass farms too, most soulless shit ever
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>>581131668
You forgot his undead high elf wife
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Tell me about some of your planned RP Characters?

I'm currently concepting a Greedy Businessman Black Bearded Dwarf or Gnome Male.

Leaning toward Dwarf for this.
Named Nolbrimar Goldhammer or something.
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>>581131815
anon, big chance it's multiplicative
>36% dr
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>>581126892
>These subhumans don't want forever to be good they just want to be angry at their rapist (retail)
Or maybe people just see the red flags and know what's going to happen because they've seen it in retail, and they feel like the only sane man in the room, shouting into a see of madmen.
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>>581131624
>forced into passive replying like a bitch
i told you yesterday. you will get your shit ran.
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So what's the weakest class/spec now judging it by talents (still don't know all the spells and abilities)? Feral fps druid seems bad, Rogues are mid (depending on how haste works), anything else?
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>>581131590
ALLY BUFF CHAD TRANNY SLAYERS REPORT IN
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Once upon a time, some weak, pathetic pussy said parsing isn't everything.
Well to most Alliance players in most situations, he was right.
But I'm not one of those Alliance players.
And this is not one of those situations.

We don't just beat our opponents, gentlemen.
We crush their will to live.
We suck the milk out of their mother's tits and use it as a mouthwash.
We rip off our opponent's dicks, and invite them to an orgy.
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We're so fucking back!
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>>581131510
>More than 1k quests added
Guys, are we going to marry gay centaurs?
Also how many of these new quests are the poop quests? You know, where Blizz makes us collect feces for somebody.
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>>581131764
Isn't Seal of Fury a tanking seal?
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what are the bad race/class combos
what are the cringe race/class combos
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>>581131891
all pure dps besides mage and hunter will be garbage.
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>>581131815
>purge armor off
>windfury procs five times
lol nice DR
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>>581131885
you are a troon
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CYOA. Hypothetically, if one were to maximize the chances of finding a future wife, EU edition...

1. what guild would you join
>hardcore or speedrunning (don't eat where you shit, find interactions and adventures elsewhere, raiding should be optimized and successful)
>casual (play with mouthbreathing retards, but fun and fun interactions are a byproduct, not a result of
>something in between (and get a mix of the disadvantages and advantages of both)

2. what role (and class) would you play
>tank
>dps
>healer

3. what sex would your character have
>male
>female
>it does not matter
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does the 30 day sub from the paypiggy edition activate instantly or can i play beta and then activate sub on launch?
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>>581132019
The most blatantly strong combo right now is gnome rogue
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>>581131903
>>581131930
KILL TRANNYS AND GET CUNNY

>AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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What's the lore behind troll warlocks?
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>>581131859
dick girl rapist
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mobs were hitting pretty hard in thet blizzcon dungeon, interesting
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>>581132072
Sub is given on launch day. Says so in the terms of the paypiggy edition.
Not sure if you even need to be subbed to play the beta.
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>>581132064
just bee urself
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>>581132121
voodoo magic mon
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>>581130968
> You're going to be paying for a sub no matter what, yes? And the fact that they will probably make the most money from their subs It's their best intentions to give people reasons to stay subbed, yes?
really the answer to this depends on factors that we both don't know.
i don't know how much their revenue comes from subs alone. how long the average person is subscribed for, etc.

maybe if people mostly unsub and resub, then having 10$ "expansion packs" every 6 months is smart, because people are coming back for content. or, maybe most people stay subbed for long periods of time regardless, and it's a drop in the bucket. i really don't know.
the same goes for shop MTX. is that 5% of their total revenue? 30%?

i'm pretty sure they said they weren't going to do tokens for classic tbc/wrath either, but they did. unimportant, though. i'll concede that in one version of classic there still aren't tokens.

>And you still have not told me what you expect they should monetize to off set the fact that we're not actually paying up front for the content
i think that having to pay for the content is probably better. maybe they do like, twice a year raid tiers or whatever, and it's some amount of money to get that. 10$ maybe. i think that would probably incentivize a faster development cycle and better quality of content, because it has to be worth the money to people. whereas people are already tolerant of long content droughts and still paying a sub right now.
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>>581132121
Class Fantasy is definitely there.

Bones in a cauldron. Dark Voodoo.
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>>581131891
as things stand right now you dont bring a single rogue to raid
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>>581132064
I would go outside
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>>581131629
Im laughing at streamers who only get leveled by dungeon spamming. now they have to compete with their thousands of followers for mobs. how many will quit before 60 and claim the game is bad because theyre no longer getting their hand held through the experience
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>>581131815
You make me remember uh MOP Demo Lock(?) where Soul Link halved your Demon's health but all damage you both took was proportionally divded between you and all your spells built up passive healing and shields and such.
You were a tank, dps, and the healer sustaining it all in 1 character.

BFA Demo Lock was similarly fun, a massive portable army. You were the patrolling raid boss and everyone else was getting overwhelmed by your many imps.
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is blvd gonna dump his tranny folder again?
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>>581131903
lvl 17 lad reporting in
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can you mutilate with axes and swords now? there's no weapon requirement on the talent
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>>581132227
that's cheating, please play by the rules
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>Dungeon experience nerfed
>Improved Blizzard nerfed to 1/3rd of its strength in classic
MAGES AND BOOSTIES IN THE GRAVE TONIGHT
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>>581132019
Cringe
UD Rogue/mage
Gnome warrior
NE warrior (male)
Human warrior
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>>581132121
Da DARK LOA MON
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what should i buy?
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>>581132345
they still need to add a target cap on CoC and nova
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>>581132082
Gnome Arcane mage is even better. Eureka only works on mana costs, not energy, so it's not all that amazing on Rogue, albeit still good. But 3 fully stacked Arcane Blasts at 10% extra damage and half cost? That's fucking insane. Especially paired with CD's. They're going to absolutely decimate people.
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>adding raytracing to 2004 graphics
How are people losing their mind over the graphics? Yes the heckin water and rays of light look good, but I'm distracted by the dated trees, the ground, the old structures. They need to start over and make a new engine or something. They are activision-blizzard, they could have just rebuilt the game with the resources they have. I think WoW players play in a bubble and they forget how far technology has left the game behind. I don't see why you can't have a more modern looking game and have the features of forever.
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mage chads, wya? are we back?
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>>581132019
people suspect undead paladins will be the most broken because of this passive, but it's still unclear exactly how it works
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>>581131590
>>581131668
>>581131884
>>581131903
>>581132327

>sees 3 horde no shoes attempting to rape female gnome priestess in the The Riverglades
>5 paladins charge in
>all 3 horde no shoe transexual rapist get HoJ
>2 based and CHAD codded ret pallys both judment SoC on single orcgger warrior
>orcs head explodes
>troll rouge tries to sprint but another pally gets SoJ off on him and hes slow
>tfw speced PoJ so 20% faster movement speed all the time
> SoC procs on 800 white crit and hits xim for another 750 holy cirt
>troll rogue now has 2 tranny neo vaginas
>other Sky elf shammy is trying to get away aswell
>the group shockadin ques up DF and pops new spell power trinket for +777 spell power
>one shots the trans shamman
>gnome priestess is saved
>"wow by the light, i was almost raped by those transexual nigger folx, but thanks to the order of divine CHADS im safe."
>"heh no issue lil lady, we just hate to see some tranny freaks think they can get away with being rapist, we know the only reason they went after you is because you look like a child, and everyone knows trannys are pedo freaks and also into dog fucking"
>she nods
>how can i ever repay you
>no payment needed, our reward is knowing 3 less trannys are not able to rape children, or so they thought
>light be with you, and kings honor
>Christ is king

vid related
https://youtu.be/CxlRJsQ7p2k?list=RDCxlRJsQ7p2k [Embed]
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>>581132325
this is who is posting all the sloppa porn btw, they havent played wow sense turttle shut down and would be ERPing on some pserver, but they all shut down LMFAO
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>[Favelamonkey]: SELL BOOST!!!! SELL BOOST!!
>[Favelamacaco#1-4]: ok lets go boosting
>[Favelamonkey]: ok, i big pull
>[Favelamonkey]: ok, mob all dead
>[Favelamonkey]: ?
>[Favelamacaco#1-4]: ??
>[Favelamacaco#1-4]: where exp
GET FUCKED HAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHHA HAHAHAH AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
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>no pvp reputation vendors upgrade
>no old av
it's joever battlegroundbros...
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>Mage completely bricked
>Paladins completely broken OP
I wonder what class all the main devs working on class design play
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>nothin personel, greenskin
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How are you guys planning for the first day of the rest of your lives?

I switched my days off to cover November 4-5-6 and on top of that added a personal day on the 7th. I’m going to prepare the same chili i had when classic came out in 2019 that lasted me an over a week. Buying a mini fridge, stocked with energy drinks, water, protein shakes, some beers / ciders and tuna salad

Girlfriend is gonna play with me for a bit but I’ll obviously outlevel her so that’s how i get my alt going smoothly

Gonna use the beta to figure out exactly what class feels the best. 1-20 is piss easy fast it’s about 8h played per class maybe 9-10 for slower classes
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>>581132440
>stacked Arcane Blasts
Isn't forever's version of arcane blast gimped in that it doesn't get any bonus damage from stacking casts now?
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>>581132382
Physical CE.
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>>581132121
all has to do with LOA.
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>>581132278
i like doing dungeons a couple of times. i really don't care if other people choose to grind dungeons. if pvp gives xp, you should be able to level through that too if you want.

i'm disappointed that they're nerfing the xp of mobs in dungeons. someone said in a previous thread that they should have daily quests for dungeons, and i think that's not a bad compromise. then if i've already done a dungeon, i could at least go back again with a friend or something and not feel like i'm completely wasting my time. sometimes a piece of gear in a dungeon is really good for your level but it's going to suck to have to do it like 4 times and get basically zero xp for the later runs.
i just don't think it's a good change.
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>>581132382
middle unless u care for wc3 campaign and want skelf and beta, nothing if you waiting till nov4
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shadow priest, rogue, warlock, feral druid OR holy paladin
bros I have too many options
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Please explain seal of fury
Why did they both give it taunt to judge and made it so you need to use it to gain mitigation and mana?
Are you meant to taunt nonstop DR be dammed?
Just give paladins a fucking taunt button and stop fiddling with stuff you don't understand
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>What realm are (you) playing in? (poll)
https://poal.me/2hc6am

THE PVP REALM WILL BE THE PLACE TO BE.
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A tourist got mad at me for the op image lol
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>>581132480
nobody knows, nobody can play yet.
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>>581132440
It works for both energy and rage. -20% energy and -40% rage.
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>>581132382
uh none? why would you buy any of that slop
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>>581132564
fucking kino, tranny fags have been BTFO so hard its unreal. we are so fucking back.
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>>581132542
>Forgetting the part where the mage dies because improved Blizzard is completely gutted
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>>581132207
>You're going to be paying for a sub no matter what, yes? And the fact that they will probably make the most money from their subs It's their best intentions to give people reasons to stay subbed, yes?
>really the answer to this depends on factors that we both don't know.
>i don't know how much their revenue comes from subs alone. how long the average person is subscribed for, etc.
Subs are worth more in terms of retained players, but we see how blizz loves to ramp up hype, get $60+15 on an expansion launch, then phone it in for 2 years when their quick turnover players dip out.
If anything, post-Activision Blizzard has constantly shown very little loyalty or respect for the ongoing Mazed subs. If you idiots will pay $15/mo even if they shit in your mouth, they're not going to put the effort in.

>>581132207
>maybe if people mostly unsub and resub, then having 10$ "expansion packs" every 6 months is smart, because people are coming back for content. or, maybe most people stay subbed for long periods of time regardless, and it's a drop in the bucket. i really don't know.
>the same goes for shop MTX. is that 5% of their total revenue? 30%?
I could see it. The paypig elves show they're already splintering off expansion and patch features as separate mtx.

I wouldn't be surprised if they went fully "free to play" while simulataneously introducing a Battle Pass replacing the subscription. Then putting more of whatever they produce behind more mtx.
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>>581132660
it's here forever, you'll have time to level all of them multiple times over even with three jobs and five wives
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>>581131815
There's not enough talent point for all that
If he has molten skin then he's not SL/SL
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So you're telling I can play shaman AND wear shoes?
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>>581132141
cheers im going in
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I’m thinking it’s the RP realm for me. Are they gonna allow you to pick the cluster every time you login or no?
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>>581132594
Nope. The damage increase isn't as extreme, but it's still there. With Eureka + AP it's going to be massive. Find a Disc Healslut to give you PI for truly bullshit damage.
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>>581132843
comfy mudslime bro
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Why are people so fixated about shoes? Do you want tauren to start wearing them or something?
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>>581132940
My Draenei Futa dom says shoes are overrated.
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>>581131867
Molten skin and demonologist will stack (add them up) while soul link will be applied after everything else so 44% mitigation before armor
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>>581132121
apparently there is none and it's one of the most egregious ones, nu-blizz hates what made this franchise popular and wow forever is just pure warcraft lore rape
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>>581132843
>five wives
I only have two...
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>>581132940
yeah play an orc shaman
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>>581132746
Well that's reasonable enough. I guess it's because the tooltip screenshot I saw was from a class that uses mana. I'm almost certain it'll get nerfed to like 33% reduced cost instead of 50%.
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>>581132669
You get the swift judgement talent in the prot tree, and reserve that for when you actually need to taunt. Spam whatever else judgement you need for general combat or be conservative when swift judgement is on cd
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>>581132850
yes you can, you just remove 1 point in destruction, it's still 8% dmg reduct
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>>581132684
PVP because bots wont be able to do shit without getting jumped
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>>581132630
we don't know how big the nerf was
dungeon spam and also boosting were too good and blizzard wants people out in the world instead, I think it's a good change
you can still run dungeons for items if you really want, and running them for friends isn't really any different from running a dungeon at 60 when you don't need items from it and your friend does
also, it would not surprise me at all if quest rewards are a lot better so you don't need dungeon loot as much (we already saw the really good 2h ret sword from the nessingway hunt chain), also new dungeon quests
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>who even asked for sky elves!?
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>>581133032
you cant change it after character creation
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>Everyone gets a spectral bear mount 1-2 months in and you will see it everywhere
Very grim
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>>581133032
>Are they gonna allow you to pick the cluster every time you login or no?
It's a permanent choice per character.
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>>581133287
me
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>>581133238
lol bots mine/herb from underground for at least last 3 years of classic, you won't even be able to target them
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>>581133215
>the goycattle consoomer says the only reason you criticize splitting free features into Microtransactions is because you're poor, you should be HONORED to pay more money to your corporate overlords for previously free elements in games
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>>581131629
dont care about meta fags, will just solo grind mobs no quest addons, just me my BM Hunter and a 1 Button Macro, watch comfy stuff on second monitor with some coco on the side, enjoying the slow steady grind
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>>581133090
How do gnomes have any better justification for warlocks other than they like magic? Trolls clearly like dark magic.
Realistically horde and alliance would both want nothing to do with warlocks either
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Why do people keep asking for stupid shit like tinker class or spellbreaker class or playable tuskarr
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>>581133337
it's ugly as sin, will only be used by people that get it super early to flex
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>>581133185
>Reasonable
>3 executes that deal 40% extra damage
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>>581133337
MOGS
MOUNTS
CHEEVOS
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>>581133337
you wont even notice them because all the glowing store mounts everywhere after the first week
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>>581133215
I forgot, in the era where retards like you dump hundreds rolling on a gacha character's banner $30 might seem like a steal.
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>>581133287
Blow it out your ass
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>>581133425
It's a 10% damage boost, anon.
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>>581133193
If you aren't using seal of fury as your default seal you're missing out on mana regen and mitigation.
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>>581133417
People somehow dumber than blizzard.
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>>581132760
aren't some zones and races locked behind purchase?
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Mage bros do we level as arcane or what’s the plan? AoE leveling is bricked from what I understand
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Bro's the wc3 forsaken campaign is so kino its seriously making me debate making an undead pala instead of undead mage.
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>>581133531
Only the blue tranny elf, nothing else.
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>>581133410
based
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>>581132064
It's much, much easier than that
>set your langauge to chinese, japanese, or korean
>make friends and join a guild
>find a random asian qt
Done.
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>>581133337
they transed the bear
it's over
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>>581133412
I thought this way as well because of voodoo magic, but it says otherwise
go look it up if you want proof
imagine how annoying shrunken gnome priests are going to be lol in pvp
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nothing screams "im brown" harder than posting a ai tranny slop to cope with your brown skin inferiority
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>>581133567
You will spam frostbolt and you will like it
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>>581133412
Gnomes don't have a justification for being anything but engineers desu, same with goblins
That's all they were ever depicted as in lord of the clans and wc3
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>>581133567
Don't you just level Frost anyway so you can just Frostbolt crap to death without having to kite?
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I am the one who toggles. I and I alone.
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>>581133417
Tinkerer was cool in WC3. Since we got gay shit like Monks and whatever the dragon only class was called, why not tinkerer?
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>>581133567
I'm just gonna go frost as an orc zug zug
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>>581133521
Shield spec gives mana on block now
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>>581133398
You're brown. You're broke. You lost.
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>>581133417
They said new classes are on the table, and Tinker and Spellbreaker have been two of the most requested classes in the history of the game. In fact, probably the only class that was more requested was Demon Hunter. Tinker seems like the perfect first choice when they inevitably add a new class.
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>>581133567
nigga even without aoe mages are top tier for leveling
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>>581133652
holy based
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> When they built SoD, it taught them how to build a really strong roadmap for the future.
> They are expanding horizontally. For the foreseeable future, they are staying on Azeroth.
> This means exploring the unfinished and unused zones that were never fleshed out, or different places that players have in their minds about what Classic+ means to them.
> Azeroth is a big place and it doesn't mean just Kalimdor and Eastern Kingdoms.
> For the time being, a lot of time is focused on Eastern Kingdoms and Kalimdor.

What areas would you want to see in the future?
Personally beyond the following nothing more needs to be added in.
> Outland
> Northrend
> non-BfA Kul Tiras
> non-BfA Zandalari Kingdom
> Undermine kingdom

For races, adding maybe Ogres (Horde) & Broken Draenei (Alliance) - Blood Elves & Goblins could be fine as Neutral ala Retoilet's Pandaren.
No other races are needed, and Skyborne should be deleted for both
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>>581133337
How exactly do you earn this?
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>>581133709
Arcane was the go-to leveling spec in sod due to having such busted numbers that they didn't even need slows to kill mobs without taking damage
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>>581133680
I thought this was AI due to how malformed the hand is... do you have some like freaky elephant man head going on too? Are you inbred?
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>>581133852
pay up piggie
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>muh lore
literally no one gives a shit at this point
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>>581133680
swarthy, and why does your wrist have fat folds
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>>581133425
Execute costs 15 rage and converts your leftover rage into damage. That's a whopping +36 damage from the -6 rage cost and +10% of your overall damage.
It will be usefull after a bad streak of miss/parry/dodges but the damage increase isn't that OP compared to other racials
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>>581133412
gnomes have no concept of morality
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>>581133842
>For the foreseeable future, they are staying on Azeroth.
>Outland
Cmon dude. But yeah, I think they're setting up for a retelling of northrend in the future.
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>wow forever coming out right before the economy collapses and diesel hits $7
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why are hunterniggers like this
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>>581133642
undead paladin was always such a cool idea and connected to the idea that he would be a human paladin before being raised from the dead, i don't know why blizzard would ever make fucking taurens as paladins other than millennial humor with "holy cow"
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If this new race was 15 dollars would you bought?
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i just realized that lili stormstout is still a loli in this timeline
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>>581133814
How would spellbreaker even work? Melee made out of paper but high resistance to magic and tools to fuck over casters?
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>>581133852
Legacy track. it's currently last reward for having 55/65 points
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>>581132831
i would just rather directly have the money i give blizzard go to the development of shit i want in the game.

cosmetic MTX is a proxy for this, and the problem is that they could just as easily make more cosmetics for the shop, and just not devote as much effort to making good content for the actual game.

there's an indirect effect there, sure. if the new raid sucks nuts, people unsub, people don't buy the cosmetics. but it's still this added layer that fucks with the incentives, is what i'm proposing.

whereas if instead it was zero shop items, and you just pay a fee for the next batch of content, then it's very 1-to-1. if the content is slop and sucks nuts, people don't buy it, or they complain very directly about it. players are weighing up the quality of the additions versus what their dollars are worth. and i think that encourages better output from blizzard.

i don't know if people would accept that. i think it's a healthier system, but people are habituated to cosmetic MTX already and might resist this change.

do you disagree with my proposal? that charging directly for "mini expansions" would encourage blizzard to make better content more regularly?
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>>581133417
If we don't ask for realistic classes like Tinker then they will pull some fanfiction bullshit class like Evoker out of their asses instead
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I don't trust any of you guys posting talent tree or talking about meta builds. I'm going to just go with my gut and pick talents I like.
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I was desperately hoping for Forever to be good instead of the same thing with a couple minor changes and some quests added
they had a real opportunity to make nightelves and forsaken neutral to fix the story
doesn't look like they're able to fix balance either sadly
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>>581133417
it makes more sense than dwarf shamans, undead paladins and gnome priests, tranny
you just want to ruin the game with your hamfisted diversity agenda that's going to end up making everyone the same with no defining features as the ultimate subversion
it's you that needs to medicated and locked in an insane asylum
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>>581133842
broken isles
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>>581133665
Oh yeah? Is that how you found yours? I'm sure you wouldn't mind telling us about that anon.
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>>581133567
the plan is to level as frost and destroy alliance in redridge at lvl 20
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>people are still complaining about having to pay for Skyborne
There's no box cost for Forever. They have to fund content development somehow
>but I pay a sub...
Sub is there to cover server upkeep costs. Also it hasn't gone up with inflation, so be thankful it's not over 20 dollars a month like it should be.
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Two days of this awful general have already made me miss the classic one.
Is this what the retail general is like every day? Christ
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>>581133842
They mentioned when talking about the sex elf lore that when they fled Feralas they found a new land to the west. So we can pretty much guarantee that's going to come into play. Probably a big island composed of a few different zones.
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>>581133989
I bought the whale pack because it came with all of reforged and I'd wanted to play it.
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>>581133567
idk fren might just singletarget nuke them as a fire mage, open with pyro and finish off single enemies should be pretty fast I guess
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>>581134072
The secret is Hello Talk
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>>581133785
So what?
Seal of fury gives you more mana on top of that
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>Mend pet is channeled and not instant
>Viper sting has a coodown
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>581133978
yep, i really dont know why anybody would complain about them desu, we already had undead priests and it makes more sense than tauren
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>>581133842
>Broken Draenei
Ain't nobody wants to play that shit. There's a reason they swapped that garbage out for Archimonde and Kil'Jaeden but not-so-demonic.
Ogres have the comedic and huge lad appeal RIP Tauren btw.

You will get the "new" Void Eredar who are a neutral faction, cutting Paladins and Shamans for Rogues and Warlocks.
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Where are my hardcore bros at? I need that edge to keep me right before climax at every near death and close encounter.
>but it’s not till
fuck i care about that. I’m rolling HC the moment it’s released like my dick from my motherfuckin LOINS
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>>581133962
>lil gnomy waify almost got plapped by ephemerial woeful futa mommy assful of ectoplasm
tf you mean i don't see any issue with that
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>>581133957
I wouldn't mind retelling the stories, even if the order changes completely.
But I would like to see Outland again still, told in a superior way.
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>>581133337
>>581133459
the rarity of cool mounts is important. preserving cool mounts as a status symbol is important.
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>>581134062
Dwarf shamans have been a thing in the lore since forever retard.
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>>581133989
never buying them
their racials suck and I can just imorph my human paladin into an elf for free
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>>581133995
Spellbreakers wear full on plate mail. No reason they would need to be fragile.
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>>581133680
MOM! THE CANADIAN CHINK IS POSTING FAKE HAND PICS PRETENDING TO BE WHITE AGAIN
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>>581134104
Retail general has vulpers/panda furries and people posting their slutmogs
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PvP and Hardcore are young men's games, I'll stick with all the grandpas in PvE. Maybe RP.
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any chance the boosting mafia will start getting crafty because dungeon boosting is dead?

i miss messing with the boosting community
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>>581133962
people are socially odd sometimes
you go to a quest hub, inv them and they decline so you just fight over mobs for no reason
the opposite faction has the tag on an elite and they just watch them slowly kill it instead of helping so it respawns faster; sometimes the other faction stays to help you back too so it's a cool thing and you can try to communicate with each other
sometimes you'll save some guy's life that's getting 1v3'd at 5% hp and he'll move on like an NPC on a scripted path as if you didn't just save his ass but you know he's not a bot
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>>581133989
I may buy them for hardcore if I'm still engaged in Forever.
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Slogging through "hard" content is boring. Blasting through "easy" content in 1/10th the time as redditshitters that lose their buffs on the first boss is fun. Wowf is going to be unfun dogshit that half the population will quit in two months.
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>>581133410
I leveled a hunter like that for a while in chromie to level LW.
I almost uninstalled the second day
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>>581134070
Good point, forgot that one - non-Legion version naturally.
>>581134203
well the regular version would be fine imo, they just need a better, non-cosmic faggotry story for them.
But sense that will be impossible, I would prefer anohter version of them.
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>>581134104
>Two days of this awful general have already made me miss the classic one.
Make a fucking thread, you faggot. You don't have to be here. This isn't a Classic thread, it's a Forever thread. Stop acting like a pathetic pissbaby and make a thread for your dead game(s).
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>>581134348
I don't know why you think this makes you look good.
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>>581134016
>i would just rather directly have the money i give blizzard go to the development of shit i want in the game.
That's what the SUBSCRIPTION which runs $180 a year is supposed to be for. You can crank it up to $210 if you want by putting half the Expansion Tax across the two years.
A subscription game has far fewer excuses for any mtx at all, and yet players still don't push back, despite someone who hasn't bought a single thing from the cast shop being in the can for $4,000 on worlo across 20 years.

>>581134094
>There's no box cost for Forever. They have to fund content development somehow
SEE ABOVE YOU FUCKING RAT
>so be thankful
The mask comes off, Mr Goldstein.
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Do we have a picture of the skelf totems?
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>>581134016
>that charging directly for "mini expansions" would encourage blizzard to make better content more regularly?

Nigga go look at retail and come back to me if you think paying for an expansion guarantees you quality.
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>>581134348
People will instead sell carry runs for dungeon gear because their set bonuses are insane for leveling.
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>>581133507
Can you change the cigarette to a joint please?
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>>581131859
Night Elf lyncher
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>>581134062
>dwarf shaman, undead pala, gnome priest don't make sense
dumb take
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Would you kneel, /wowfg/?
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>Dungeon Boosting Nerfed
>Mage AoE grinding nerfed
The tears from people actually having to play the fucking game will be worth it alone.
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>>581133417
tinker is still the dumbest most asked for class. id rather they finally do a support class like bard then do tinker. especially if they introduced some way for bards to actually play the instruments like LOTRO does
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>>581134623
They aren't great. Don't really match the race at all IMO.
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>>581134348
both of the people arguing are equally retarded
however, the rogue is a human female, so I immedately lost all respect for him
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>>581134618
Is that General Sam?
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Has Blizzard said what time the beta starts on Thursday?
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>>581134208
Playing hardcore for sure, classic is just not it without that fear of death.
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>>581134774
Oh wow that’s terrible
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>>581134249
reoilet gas lighting, if you had pics or proof you would have been posting it by now, porting the exact horde shaman template onto alliance dwarfs is lazy, the wildhammer clan rode griffons and threw lightning hammers they didn't use ghostwolf form or ghost ram lulululul which is a retail asspull
FUCK OFF TOURIST YOU'RE A PAID SHILL HERE TO PUSH TRANNY RETAIL SUBVERSION AND RUIN THE FRANCHISE, everything nu-blizz is doing with this is lazy and disrespectful because all they care about is getting their next paycheck and subverting a beloved male hobby and franchise with more lame and gay horse shit
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>>Mage AoE grinding nerfed
*raughs in arcane blast + fire strike combo
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>>581133398
New races were never free howeverbeit
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>>581134624
i bought legion because people said it was good. and it was. i have never bought any cosmetics though.
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>>581134623
skelf just sounds like skeleton elf
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>>581133680
>jacks off so much he has calluses
grim
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>>581133989
There's already a better elf race, the night elves.
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>>581134338
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>>581134714
tbf Gnome Priest really doesn't make much sense, they're very much not the kind to do Faith in divine beings, so it would cheapen Priests and Paladins a bit.
No reason their analytical capabilities shouldn't lend itself to Shamanism though.
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>>581134584
>this isnt a classic thread, its just a classic+ thread
Lol. I give you a week before you quit and go back to doing whatever it is you do in retail, presumably calling other people names for being annoyed with dogshit quality generals
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>>581133957
TBC is Classic and was in Vanilla too both in game and in mind when making the game so it's okay for them to add, I just don't know how will they find an excuse to open the Dark Portal if the whole premise for Forever is "What if the Infinite Dragonflight succeded and changed the history and fixed many things about Azeroth including allegedly preventing Medivh from opening the original Dark Portal yet orcs stay?". Anyway don't take me as a source of information because I may be wrong about the whole bronze dragonflight subplot, but if it's true, then since they said that Outland and Azeroth spill into each other and that's how we got orc, nothing stops them from making an Outland content patch. I'm not making shit up, I might be wrong and misremembering things but I think I've read somewhere that this may be one of the ways the story goes. And also if Illidan is in Outland in that timeline then we'd have to see him somehow.
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>>581134751
>especially if they introduced some way for bards to actually play the instruments like LOTRO does
That shit is pure sovl.
>Go to the prancing pony on an RP realm
>There is a band of minstrels playing songs and telling stories
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>>581134169
I'm just saying you don't always need more mana.
Like you can use judge justice to prevent runners, or something.
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>>581132468
underrated
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>>581134890
Legion was 9 years ago and they have released nothing but garbage since then.
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>>581134208
>>581134840
Hope they will rework or remove petri, you dont deserve to live even if someone else fucks shit up.
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>>581134841
And since other races all have their Wrath/Cata era totems, they're gonna have the ugliest and bulkiest totems in the get despite being hot, slender elves. It's such a weird choice.
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>>581134851
>they didn't use ghostwolf form
if only you knew how few race/class combos worked if you nitpicked like that
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>>581134774
it's so clear that the skyborne have been hastily cobbled together from a bunch of unused material they had sitting on a hard drive somewhere that it's not even funny
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>>581134162
The language exchange app? That checks out...
From what I've heard online dating is pretty dead on 'online dating' platforms. Supposedly your best choices would be games and the sort of thing you suggested.

Which brings me back to my question. But I'm guessing anons here are either too young, or too old and have already given up or found their partner.
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>>581134623
different color of dicks with two feathers each, the the throbbing they do with every pulse really does wonders
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>>581134954
>>581134338
>started wow as a kid on an rp server without knowing what rp meant
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>>581134882
>ignores the "splitting things off to sell them to you for more than the previous expansion tax" aspect
You corpo cockslurpers really are something else. You will twist and dodge and deflect literally every thing.
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>>581134741
of course
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>>581133958
>wotlk come out 1 month after the 2008 crash
>forever will come out 1 month after the 2026 crash
kino
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>AOE root on explosive and frost trap
Wtf
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>>581135085
You don't understand, anon. Human and Orc warriors being functionally identical is perfectly lore accurate.
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Explain why no Night Elves at any point in history ever decided to practice shamanism ever
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>>581132468
Cant do, moder graphics are reserved for WoW 2.
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>>581134618
>That's what the SUBSCRIPTION which runs $180 a year is supposed to be for.
right but i'm not paying for a sub all the time. i play wow periodically. i don't know how many people do the same thing. i'll sub for like three months and then put it down. usually because i've run out of shit i want to do in the game.
i'd unsub and resub like three times during an expansion.
maybe that's atypical and most people are just letting it ride nonstop. my suggestion is coming from the way that i play wow.

but you're right about it being 15$ still. which is pretty crazy. they've really painted themselves into a corner with that. imagine the uproar if they made it 20.
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>>581133410
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>>581135254
>MUH EARTHMOTHER
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>>581134840
my nigga
>>581135060
>remove petri
>you should have no recourse due to broken af glitches, disconnected or straight up psychopath tinyviolins
i don’t gotta pay the death penalty for someone else’s fuck up. suck my dick
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I fucking hate rogues
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>>581134973
Yeah but they specifically said they wanna stay on Azeroth, it's not like they're retconning Outland or anything we probably just wont be going there. That's not to say Illidan and the others can't come to us.
I think there's a pretty good reason we didn't get Helves/Belves and instead got made up new elves, they probably wanna go a different path with the elves and maybe Kael'thas won't be a retard sucking the dick of the legion, the people directly responsible for destroying his kingdom.
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Was gonna play undead prot pally but seeing them get all the special snowflake treatment with their special little city and their high res armored mount available for free at level 40 that looks better than anything that was ever in real classic, and how many ledditors are swarming to it put me off. I will now be an enhancement chad.
>personal bloodlust
>infinite mana
>insane mobility
>insane utility
>overtuned stormstrike
>might be able to tank too if these retards actually put in SoD abilities
I’m thinking fem troll
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>>581135183
remember those turtling alliance faggots on twow in AV? the cancer bridge into ally base? imagine storming that with traps like those too
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>>581135085
I know, asking nu-blizz to be creative these days is asking way too fucking much, guess what, that's why classic came to be and it will be the reason private servers make a roaring come back
inb4 lul you're a pserf brown, i've never played on one, unlike so many of your precious streamers you don't throw any shit at
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>>581134973
>TBC is Classic and was in Vanilla too both in game and in mind when making the game so it's okay for them to ad
NO, the content in outland was mostly good but outland itself fucking killed player life on azeroth.
Whats the point of going back to vanilla + if we are just going to shuffle everybody back into outland again? They were even saying this during the announcement
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>>581135183
Sounds great for cc
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>>581132468
>Yes the heckin water and rays of light look good
But, they don't though. They're unironically the worst elements in almost all the screenshots.
The only thing that needs replacement is the Waffle Trees.
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thank you blizzard from saving me from getting raped by nexon
im ready to get gaped by blizzard instead
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>>581134994
i guess you're right. i quit in cata because cata sucked, and came back for legion because people said it was good. and then bfa sucked and i haven't been back.
i guess it is what it is. i don't have the data to make a good suggestion and even if i did it's not like they're going to actually change anything. i just don't like that they're charging for races. it feels like when they first put cosmetics on the shop. i'm afraid that if people just swallow this load, it's going to get worse. there will be 2 new races a year, or whatever, whenever blizz decides they need a new cash injection for a weak quarter. that sucks.
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>>581135509
The water looks pretty fucking terrific. I can see myself toning down the lightning and fog pretty substantially, though.
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>>581135183
>rush left of Balinda before the noshoe niggers arrive
>frost trap
>25 noshoe statues monke
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>>581135447
>>infinite mana
From what, Judgement of Wisdom? Other than 50% mana regen while casting (which remember is just your base mana regen, so it's spirit based) I don't see anything that will fix their mana problems.
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>>581135583
I miss playing Aion back in the day. Shit was awesome.
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>>581135131
Expansions are $60, the new race is $30
Given that the new zones and instances are completely free, the price point is the same (2 new races vs 1 new race)
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Let's quest together when the game releases.
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>>581134714
my two favorite races in one image
that's how i will be roleplaying my femtauren resto shaman on the NA RP server
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>>581135130
RP server? I do enjoy some ripe peaches!
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>>581135437
time for human hunter
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>>581132468
It's ludokino
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>>581133989
Only if the racials are good, only if the starting zone is good.
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>>581135716
server
faction
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>>581135754
They're not, it isnt
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>>581135662
Look again
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>>581134584
>pissbaby
fuck off back to r*ddit or the >>/lgbt/ containment board freak.

>>581135771
>server
anon, you realise what "realmless" means. right?
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>>581135602
>i just don't like that they're charging for races. it feels like when they first put cosmetics on the shop. i'm afraid that if people just swallow this load, it's going to get worse.
Load is already swallowed when the pushback was not swift and brutal and overwhelming.
If it were any other company, I'd legit expect going full F2P + MTX model, but these are the makers of Diablo Immortal.
They're going to keep the paid Sub and crank up more and more intrusive MTX because faggots like this >>581134094 eat it all up and defend it for free.
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>>581135183
I'll take over 30 entrapment procs trying to walk through a single frost trap.
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>cant visit the sky elf starting zone without making one
>cant finish explorer achieves without paying 30$ for each new race
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>>581131510
why do low value men aka mentally ill men in dresses aka tranny faggots love sky faggot elves so much?
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>>581133842
Leave outland and northrend and Zandalar out for now. Focus on areas that are on or close enough to Azeroth and Kalimdor, Tel'Abim and Northeron come to mind.
If we are going to visit areas that ARE in retail wow already but specific to K/EZ lets do the non-cata fucked areas like Twilight Highlands or Gilneas and see the non-tbc rebuilt QT/ZA
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Just think about it:
Hardcore RP server
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>Tfw I have like 5 Races/Classes/Specs/Professions lined up ready to play.

I have become joy incarnate. World of Warcraft Forever is now truly...forever.
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>>581135867
>realmless
>pretending the categories aren’t essentially “realms” by dividing the community up
bro just say what RULESET and faction, fuck.
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>>581135929
Alliance might be able to get a warlock up there with a mage portal
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https://youtu.be/fSTBWQPUwLc

soundtrack for when I run alliance scum down on my plainsrunning tauren melee hunter.

Race: BULL
Sex: YES PLEASE
Class: Tons of it
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>>581135823
Then I won't buy. I really liked Eversong forest and ghostlands.
I'd pay if the sky guys were getting kino like that.
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>>581132468
the water sunset / sunrise effects and fog effects looked cool

wow graphics look fine as is
>muh 100000 trillion polygon models that make any rig choke and require dlss to even get playable frame rate
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>>581134094
the living meme lmao
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>>581136006
That's just goldshire
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>>581136003
twilight highlands is definitely on the table since they directly called out uldum at blizzcon
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>>581136007
I do as well. Just so many cool combos.
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>>581136006
Hardcore PVP-ERP Server

You better start sucking if you don't want the permadeath.
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>>581135509
The trees are particularly bad in strangle thorn. Those old ass palm tree branches were so distracting.
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>>581136006
can't see it doing well
hardcore audience is full of metafags and speedrunners
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press S to shit on the massgrave of dungeon farmers and boostermonkeys

SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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oink oink
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>>581136006
hardcore RP-PVP

imagine the fucking drama, tension and memories made. Coalitions forming to safe guard lower levels.
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>>581136057
why would there be a portal to a starting zone?
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Troll, male, hunter, beast master, skinning, leatherwork, RP realm
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>>581135841
I did and I still can't see what you're talking about. The only thing is this, which gives 50% mana regen while casting, which is just "50% of your natual mana regen works while casting" which isn't as good as it sounds.
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>>581136006
>kino funerals
I can see the light...
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>>581132345
>mfw its still faster than collecting 10k boar asses
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>>581136003
An alternative history Outlands sounds so fucking cool too
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Are we going to be able to toggle the new children's book loading screens off, god damn they're so intent on ruining vanilla it's not even funny or surprising anymore
remember they pulled this toggle it off pilpul with the diablo 2 deconstruction and eventually just stopped letting you use the old graphics
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>>581132278
forever uses retail features, you're braindead if you think global mob tagging isn't being carried over from retail

>>581136046
>40+ year old man does the same thing he has done for the last 20 years
I'm glad you're happy lad but it's just the same ol same ol
I want to play a few different classes too but I feel like lvling is going to feel way too linear this time, I generally do a perfect quest route on my main and then usually my alts just live in dungeons grinding out loot and doing BGs while heading for cap but now dungeons give zero exp so doing the same set of shitty quests 50000 times in a row is going to get old after the 2nd time
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>>581136225
All the major cities are in a starting zone
I dunno if donut steel elves even have a city though
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>>581136090
But look at the min specs of WoW Forever. They are very very generous. We are not talking about a heavy game here. This game is light and very outdated. Surely it's not rocket science.
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legacy talents requiring you to level alts is really really good
combined with no boosts it means autistic retards who only ever played one role will be forced out of their comfort zone
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>>581136224
holy soul
Thats sounds like fun.
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>>581136224
>ywn hunt down your wives murderer
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>>581131510
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why are people saying rogue got a nerf in forever? I don't see it. everything they did before, they do slightly better now.
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>tfw just handed in the last Redridge/Duskwood quests and the 30s finally feel real
>ride through Wetlands toward Hillsbrad because Southshore
>a few bodies crest the hill above Darrow Hill
>see a night elf huntress pinned against a tree by four Horde
>two orcs, a troll, and a “blood elf” with a wig that looks like it lost a fight with a mop
>they’re already talking about “affirming” her
>not today.jpg
>HoJ
>SoC
>Holy Strike
>Judgement orc warrior eats the first SoC + Judgement
>head leaves the body, body keeps running two steps
>second orc tries to intercept
>lands HoJ + Consecration
>he’s glued to the dirt while I walk over him
>troll rogue vanish-sprints toward the river
>PoJ spec, I’m already faster
>SoJ hits, he’s a statue
>1488 white crit
>he’s collecting new holes on the riverbank, last one is the wig elf “shaman”
>tries to ghost wolf and hex the huntress
>refresh seal of command
>one global its all it takes.mp4
>wig hits the grass before the body doesnight elf huntress stands up, bow still nocked
>“by Elune I thought they were going to anger rape me because....”
>shhhhhhhh...no payment needed
>we just hate watching tranny freaks treat Alliance women like a bathroom stall
>Light be with you
>King’s Honor
>Christ is King

all in a day’s work
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>>581136457
OLGRA!!!
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>>581136458
This is someones adult male son aka a mentally ill man in a dress
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>>581136356
Shockingly you're just supposed to get engineers to do their thing and that looks to be what happened.
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>>581136328
>i get bored after the main
then just play main, wtf. It just sounds like reasons to bitch instead of enjoy the game with bros. If you don’t want to play then play som other shit, idk. Take an anti-depressant. find god. We just wanna game and hangout man.
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>>581136235
A / D bindings? Turn left / right
Dungeon walk status? 25 minutes late
Pet growl? Always on
Arrows left? 46
Herod's Axe? Need roll
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>>581136486
they absolutely butchered nightelves jesus christ
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>>581136458
>man chin
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>>581136458
think'n 'bout bein' here 'frever
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I'm going to have to tank and offtank a whole bunch if I decide to play feral druid aren't I
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>>581136176
I hope they won't show up for forever now :)
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>the number of people soifacing over TBC and WotLK talents
Yeah, sure, I guess there's Era only players out there that don't know about the later changes
>The number of people soifacing over COMPLETELY UNCHANGED vanilla talents
Literally what even the fuck, man?
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>>581131764
use the other website please your visual clutter annoys me.
>https://forevertalents.up.railway.app/
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>>581136576
>disingenuous faggot refuses to properly read
many such cases, anyway you know I'm right and I hope you enjoy it on your 10 alts while you attend your pride parade, little faggot loser.
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>>581135439
I don't know how it would go then, I don't remember Illidan ever planning to invade Azeroth and now that Legion is in the past we know that he just wants to chill and train his army of demon hunters and maybe to some extent if we won't interrupt him he'll just stay there and mess up with the Burning Legion. There are other threats on Azeroth, even the familiar ones they can put a spin on and make new, but ultimately I just don't know that many that are urgent. Arthas in sleeping in Northrend, Old Gods are waking up, Deathwing in either in Outland or on Azeroth idk, Pandas are behind the mist and all their problems too. All the other problems/expansions came out from the WoD/Alternative Draenor. Well maybe the Dragon Isles and Shadowlands too can we implimented somehow. Other than that I don't know what enemies they'll come up with. The South Seas/Nazjatar?
>>581135489
Ok, my bad, I guess we're staying on Azeroth untill undisclosed time when we're gonna need to go to some other plane/dimension/world. I just don't know how long it'd take until it becomes a bit played out. Maybe Outland won't be as major or won't come as fast as has 20 years ago to drive everyone from the main world.
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>>581136430
>>581136457
I FUCKING NEED
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>>581136605
For me A D are for strafe, shift A D for turning. Just so I can steer with my hand off the mouse for long walks. Mouse turning for anything important though
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>>581136328
>global mob tagging isn't being carried over from retail
wasn't in the blizzcon demo.
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>>581134094
Nobody is complaining you have to pay.
Everyone is complaining that Shitborne fucking suck and most importantly are both factions
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>>581136642
offheal, offtank, offdps
you're picking a flexible class, after all.
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>>581136642
Have to? No only if you wanna do dungeons or have a tank friend to group with
Druid tanking is super chill though, and you can do it for dungeons without taking every bear talent easily so you don't hurt your catform much for leveling
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>>581135732
i thought the husband is supposed to shove the peach up his crack
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PALLY BROS REPORT IN

>RACE
WHITE
>SPEC
ret/shockadin
>SEX
YES

NO SHOE TRANNYS ARE GOING TO DIE
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>Paladins are now the strongest tanks, healers and dps
Thank you Aggrend
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>>581136457
>wives
Damn, dude. How many of them did he kill?
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>>581136760
>once your character dies your next character is their child with the same surname
>you get mailed one of the bags of the dead character
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>>581136730
>i just wanted to bitch and moan in a thread where people wanted to get hype and play vidya together
fuck outta here then
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>>581136825
>Nobody is complaining you have to pay.
i'm complaining you have to pay. a lot of people are complaining you have to pay.
you've never been able to buy a race a la carte.
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What do you think the land whales and fattie fatsters at blizzard eat each day to be so fucking fat
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>Balance and feral are still shit
Sigh......
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>dooming shitposters are also aijeets.
Not beating the pserf shitskin allegations.
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>>581137060
how do you know this?
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>>581136994
>tell the truth
>disingenuous little faggot gets mad over it and spurts out bullshit
many such cases, keep being a little faggot loser like usual.
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>>581137040
donut milk shakes
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>>581136998
Yeah instead youve had to pay $60 for it + expansion
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>>581136987
we need to start pushing this as feedback for the devs. get on it
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>Orc Axe racial
>1%
>Dwarf Mace racial
>1%
>Human Sword racial
>2%

The fuck? Fuck off Blizzard, thats just bullshit and you know it. For what fucking purpose do they get double the power of the others?
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>>581136759
>I guess we're staying on Azeroth untill undisclosed time when we're gonna need to go to some other plane/dimension/world
I fucking hope not. It would just be the outland problem all over again. There's still loads of room to add zones and raids to the vanilla map, and thats not even considering adding single zone islands to boat to
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>battle shout still lasts 3 mins
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>>581137060
Balance looks fun though?
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What time does the beta start?
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>blizz: we want players to enjoy the process of leveling
>players: how do I level the absolute fastest I can, to skip as many zones possible
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>>581137040
It really is a mystery

Im a NEET shut in who eats 2-3 times a day and I’m 21 BMI I don’t understand how they pull it off

Imagine just how much you need to eat consistently to get that big and maintain it especially if you’re going to work etc
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>>581137167
play in the beta. report it. a number like that is pretty easy to tweak.
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>>581137167
>orcs: +10% ap/sp cd
>dwarves: +5% damage with condition
>humans: nothing
simple
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>>581137167
Because orc and dwarf get another racial that increases damage
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>>581137167
human mages and locks never using daggers or staves
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>>581137167
do you really think 5% more spirit is a suitable substitute for an actual passive
yes I deserve more crit
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>>581137167
Its cause human doesnt have other dmg racials
Orcs and Dwarves do
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>>581136987
Kinda locks you into playing a single race though
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>>581137143
>moan about how bored the game is for himself
>can’t find anything else worth his time but shit up a thread where others are getting hyped
Yeah you’re having a great time doing the alternative aren’t ya knife ear?
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>>581137242
[ Things I Wish I Knew Before Playing The Warcraft Forever Beta ]
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>>581137167
Orcs have blood fury so they don't need the added passive boost. Dwarves really should have gotten 2% though, their other racials are awful.
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>>581136224
>Patrol parties protecting contested areas.
We must secure the existence of our people and a future for elven children.
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>>581135867
Fuck off back to your dead general, pussy. You lost. Cry harder like the pissbaby faggot you are.
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>>581137156
yeah that's right. you got the entire expansion, and the races were included as part of that.
all the mounts and items were also a part of that. you pay the price of the expansion and get all the content. like, once every two years.
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>>581137060
feral looks very good you are a retarded doomer
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>wow is aboutta be back in the zeitgeist... check
>2019 levels of hype back on the menu... check
>blizzlike xp rates... check
>actually good integrity checks like nuking boosting... check
>retailshit largely kept in check... check
brahs, we're all gonna make it
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>>581137416
Never said that there's far more context which is why I keep calling you a disingenuous little faggot loser.
Take your schizo meds so you stop fighting made up demons in your head and learn to read, little faggot loser.
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>>581133209
You can't take master demonologist and still have the rest, it's not possible.
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>>581137365
it's an okay bonus for healers and the future dps class that has spirit as main stat
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>>581137060
pvp balance looks pretty good. Moonkin itself still is kinda shit though. Just get natures swiftness instead
Feral as usual looks great for leveling and dungeons, and underwhelming for raids. They'll probably be fine tanks for 10-20 man raids though, dps maybe not so much
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>>581137060
Feral rotation looks good, it's all up to blizzard to give them scaling
Same with balance and their age old mana issues
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>>581137397
well if your new character is of different race they wont be related, simple
or they are related only if you use the same last name
>marriage changes last name
I wonder if we will ever get player marriages
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>>581136259
I can see melees still doing cleave runs in scarlet monastary to be honest, just to get the gear and even if it is only 1/3 XP, it should still be on par with questing or faster, 4 melee 1 shaman is prolly goated
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>>581133989
No. Priest can't be blue elves, and even if they could I wouldn't care cause the racial isn't that good.
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>>581137525
>retailshit largely kept in check
lol, lmao
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>>581137167
>>581137442
Worst part about the dwarf racial is they are turbo shilling TRAILER MAN Dwarf yet Dwarf Hunters can't use maces and will fucking suck.
Still gonna play one, though, but I think they either need to let hunters use maces, or make the racial maces and guns.
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>>581137167
Swords better
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>>581137167
Less jealous noshoes
Next he'll post again about gnomes eureka being broken
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how come xiv got draeneis and forever doesnt
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>grinding rank 14 every season to keep the rewards

can we get a poggers in the lair?
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what the frick?
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>>581137060
dont worry the mages and locks want 3% crit so you got a pity spot anyway same with feral in the melee group
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>>581137602
Ok but if they aren't related then no bag for you
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>>581137741
fuck PvP
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>poop
>there is blood
its over bros
im not making for the forever release
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What are your thoughts on controller support?
Will you be using a controller to level?

https://x.com/anniefuchsia/status/2099877903169126755/video/1?s=61
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>>581137464
>Blackrock Mountain becomes the largest contested zone for control due to the loot
Just imagine Grob’s Hurricane part 2, faction’s gathering large armies to retake resourceful territories. Supply lines for areas such as devilsaur leather require coordinated control
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>>581137791
max level in demo was 38. could come at a higher level. or maybe it's not in.
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How long will Blizz be able to resist their natural inclination to spam the cash shop with $19.99 rainbow pony mounts?
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>>581137686
its nothing like SoD, so that's all that matters.
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>>581137519
>>581137553
>>581137547
but my powershifting......
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>>581137791
Just mean that it's higher than lvl38
Fury has improved intercept in the tree
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>>581137741
hopefully they change the stats on the pvp sets so it's not obligatory to grind r14 in order to get an invite to raids
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>>581136642
druid is the best tank now anon
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>>581137843
Nice option for when you are doing braindead farms and wanna get comfy.
Seeing anybody in your raid/dungeon controlling like that is gonna be the worst though
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https://voca.ro/14cKln5mYCY8
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>>581137843
nah never had a console, too old and lazy to switch to controller
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>>581137741
There are two types of people who pvp. The first do it for run and have fun fucking around in the world or in battlegrounds. The second take it way too seriously and are hyper autistic. This is for them.
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>>581137756
5 points for -1 sec on shocks
not worth
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>>581137538
>i wasn’t bitching and moaning
>look inside
>bitch and moans
get dicked already you whore
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>>581137204
Tbh I see that now and I remembered that even in the non-Azeroth-centric expansions half the problems were still about something happening on Azeroth
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retarded question mayhaps but with the whole first+second name thing the first name won't have to be unique anymore right?
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>>581137902
Powershifting needed to go, bitch about berserking being shit for cats.
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>>581137890
january
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>>581138017
Where would you put it instead tho
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>>581137756
>No thread reduction
THIS NIGGA RIPPIN AGGRO(unless you're a pvp god then forgive me)
Also I think the % int talent should be 5/5 considering mental quickness dervies attack power from int and proper enh gear will probably have a lot of int. Better than spending 5 points for -1 shock cooldown for sure.
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>>581136260
They did that. It was fucking cool. Except the rest of WoD outside of raiding was awful.
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>>581137842
Depends, do you have a hemorrhoid or anal fissure and it stings when pooping + blood?
then you're fine

But if you're having bowel movements with a lot of blood and you don't really feel anything while pooping then go get checked NOW

t. biological female who use to be a nurse
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>>581137040
Mexican food is some of the most calorie dense food on earth and the americanized version is even worse. Burritos regularly clear 2k calories alone.
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>>581137741
If it's a grind to 14 EVERY SEASON that means it should hopefully be something manageable instead of the ungodly poopsock fiesta that is original vanilla ranking
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If you enter my party and I find out you're playing on a steam deck or some shit I'm gonna wish you luck I guess
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>>581137976
backpedaling dad gamers are now looking down at their controller to check where their taunt button is, you've had aggro for 13 seconds
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SOD Gladiator levelling was kinda fun, do you guys think we'll get Gladiator here too? Or is that meta aoe taunt screenshot fake?
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>>581137856
>all this while in hardcore
Imagine the standstills between gathered armies...
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>>581138148
>t. biological female who use to be a nurse
Are you pretty
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>>581137967
Can druids use pots in forms now? Engy stuff? Weapon enchants?
Warriors are still probably going to be better single target tanks by a mile, paladins might be better aoe tanks but with less sustainability due to mana.
Surely druids wont still be chained to the manual crowd pummeler either but is there anything to replace it?
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>>581138021
>disingenuous faggot tranny still seething because he can't read and misunderstood what I typed so now he is battling demons in his head
little faggot loser troon, just fuck off now lmao
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Is there no RP-PVP server? Or can you toggle both?
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>>581138282
>Or is that meta aoe taunt screenshot fake?
You can literally go to the exact time in Soda's vod to see it yourself.
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>>581138148
bros update the ovulation chart NOW
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Why did they get rid of dwarf gun spec? :(
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>>581132019
>bad
Everything that's not cringe, probably.
>cringe
Meta. Especially S*yborne who are the gayest things I've seen since Kyrians who you just know will be OP casters at best and OP everything at worst.
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>>581138148
anal [Fissure]
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>>581137741
Didn't they nerf r14 grind to the ground in anniversary?
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Sky Elves racials need to be buffed. Significantly.
>But blizzard doesn't want to appear p2w!
I don't care, they're clearly the worst race in the game. Even Dwarves who are also shit mog them. Sky Elves have 0/4 good racials, at least Dwarf has 1.
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If nu-blizz wanted to establish some rapport with the community and beaten down player base they should have focused on early itemization and aesthetics so you could make your character look cool instead of having it be so easy to end up looking like a clown, but knowing them they would have fucked it up and removed stats all together or make you wear a tuxedo or some shit, who knows what they think looks cool
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>>581138429
trolls also lost the bow one
they just hate hunters
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>>581138429
because guns are racist and right wing
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>>581138359
pummeler has a cooldown no charges so it cannot be spammed
warrior has no aoe threat and if thunderclap is needed the fury will do it
paladin and druid both have aoe threat now
prot brings nothing to the raid fury doesnt
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>biological female
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>>581138148
I love nurses. Great people. Do you happen to know any uncouple men nurses?
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>>581138006
I'm type 3. I pick pvp server for immersion, makes the factions actually matter and moving through enemy territory more dangerous. The world feels more real in pvp, outside of the few times you get hard griefed, but you can usually just go somewhere else anyway
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We're not coming home bros.
This game won't have longevity.
There is no home anymore.
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>>581138373
>bitch and moans still bitches and moans
Hope your axwound doesn’t rot while you sit here doing literally nothing but be mad at everyone else getting hyped.
cope seethe dilate
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>>581137890
lmfao look at this AI slop repost, why cant trannys think of anything new?
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How bad are the BG winrates for alliance gonna be on the PVP server bros
I have a really bad feeling
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>>581138429
does this mean dwarvish hunters can no longer use guns
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>>581138457
yes you had people with several r14s
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>>581137756
elemental is overrated and dropping it alltogether for manatide might be worth it
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>>581132064
The only time I found someone that was vaguely wife material in WoW (EU) was some girl that really enjoyed farming transmogs in old raids. Not in a guild, not relevant to class, not relevant to anything else. Just a shared autistic interest and a pug to meet in. I am weirdly social though so there is that.
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>>581138494
>early itemization and aesthetics so you could make your character look cool instead of having it be so easy to end up looking like a clown

no.
you earn the privilege to look cool through effort and time. when you get gear drops and start looking cool, that's when you know you're becoming a man.
no shoulders. no helmet. that gay little circular cloak. but when you get those white shoulders, now we're talking.
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>>581138461
a goblin glider every 2min in vanilla kinda goes hard
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>>581138148
what if it’s the 2nd but past ER check ups found nothing and it still happens? Bright red not dark red
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i wonder if theyre gonna add in more fun weapons for staves or fist weapons

i kinda wanna larp as a monk
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>>581138349
I'm a old grandma you young lads will not want me trust me and I will play a orc male shaman with a very masculine name.
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>>581138148
>doesn't mention anything about the color of the blood
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Will i need macros for my Dwarf Shaman™ totems
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>>581138546
not going to look it up but it had 3 charges when xaryu was playing it in the demo. it was also unique.
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>>581138826
fuck, you're perfect
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>>581138651
>call him a disingenuous tranny
>he just repeats it back like a mongoloid
I bet you paid for sky elf.
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>>581138680
Night elves, gnomes, and humans if you play with swords, have all crazy good racials
it's over for the horde
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>>581138898
totem twisting is gone and you have that skill that lets you plop 4 totems at the same time
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>Fresh Forever pvp mega server a week after launch
>travel through the dark haunted forest of duskwood toward Stranglethorn Vale with your new guildmates
>humid clouds of mist rolling through the trees, the canopy restricting all but a few rays of light
>new ambient sounds of insects and distant squawks of parrots fill the air
>general chat warns that they are coming your way
>you turn to your guildmates, but their corpses are dripping with rogue's poison
>the mist begins to light up with flashes of lightning and fire
>you see a tauren shaman plainsrunning like a juggernaut toward you
>he is flanked by an undead prot paladin and an orc warrior
>there is nowhere to run
>welcome to Stranglethorn Vale, you will die here
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>>581137756
I did something like this, for pure PvE. Call of fire + improved fire nova since fire nova should be used on cooldowns in dungs, raids.
Grievances are no spirit wolf or clearcasting, but it's purely PvE. Could drop spirit weapons if you have a sweaty guild with big tanks or if you get no upgrades.
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https://talentsforever.com/mage/60/000000000000000000-03552030130133051-0055000330000000000

Frostfire build. Pretty confident this is the one for PvE. Maybe trade Piercing Ice for Imp. Flamestrike for AoE.
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>>581138826
back in the vanilla days we had girl in our guild and she played a male orc warlock
weird shit but I guess women like to look at big green men as much as men like to look at blue women with pointy ears
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Noob here
If I go a Dwarf/Troll with Skinning....
....Do I do 10% extra damage to Druids in their animal forms free?
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>>581138359
If bosses attack fast enough paladins will be fine with their mana on block and seal of fury giving them more mana
Ferals berserk means they'll have great burst AoE threat for raids
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>>581138680
Hordies mistake ganking lowbies and not acting like a baboon in WPvP as being bad at PvP but in my experience Ally rapes in BGs
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>>581139025
i kinda liked having macro spam but that works too like cata
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>>581138991
>still mad and can’t do anything else but try to rain on everyone else’s parade
so when you’re gonna play some vidya, or are you staying here because the only thing you can manage to feel in life is anger and depression?
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>>581139065
No. There6 still humanoids, just like Forsaken aren't undead.
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Some autist ss a warlock tier set in some video
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>>581138826
Are you...taken?
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>>581139065
Probably yes. Druid forms were always affected by hunters scare beast
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>>581139169
wrong
you can scare beast druids on animal form with the hunter skill
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>>581139056
According to statistics less than 5% of women play as guys, but around 50% of men play as girls.
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>>581139153
Totem bars and the Call of the X spells were added in Wrath, not Cata.
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>>581138723
that's something to feel out while playing, we don't really have any idea how mana is going to turn out
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>>581139268
>>581139169
God I wish I could skin druids
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brown spamming sperg avatarfaggot shitting up /wowg/, ya it's over
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yo what the fuck
https://www.mcdonalds.com/au/en-au/partner-rewards/world-of-warcraft-forever-beta-key.html
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>>581137740
Where's the bulge?
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>>581139349
same but tauren
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>>581139056
I just think orc male looks cool, sometimes I play orc female but I think the male just looks far cooler.
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>>581139349
lol'd so hard at this post for some reason
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sky elves for 30$ marks the very first mechanic and feature microtransaction in the games 20 year history
congratulations paypiggies the first domino has fallen
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>>581139360
GO
BACK
NOW
RETOILETS
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>>581139393
Woke of Peacecraft: McDonald's
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>>581138723
if hit and mana is an issue then resto for mana tide and hit will be worth it
if hit and/or weapon skill is easy to get on gear and mana is not an issue then elemental is the way to go
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>>581139457
You're a fucking retard. They've been selling races and classes for the entire existence of the game. The difference is they were bundled with expansions and not just zones.
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>>581139164
>troon still can't read
Give it up lad it's over...
I won
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>>581139457
>REEEE NOOOO UR JUST A POOR BROWNOID
>WE SHOULD ALL HONOR GLORIOUS CEO AND BE HAPPY TO PAY FOR FREE THINGS
>IT WAS JUST A PRIVILEGE THESE THINGS WERE FREE BEFORE!
That sound about shilly enough?
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>>581139586
holy retarded cope
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>Windfury and Flametongue totems are now just buffs instead of weapon enchants meaning you can use poisons/sharpening stones and you don't need to totem twist
TAZBAZINGO TIME TO PLAY TROLL ENH SHAMAN
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>>581139457
interesting interpretation, i don't like it either, although i would have bought that statue from the collectors edition on its own if that were possible, if i do play, im just buying the sub and nothing else.

>581137506
pic rel troon
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>>581139619
>won
>still not playing vidya
>cant help himself but cry in a thread
yeah you’re really “winning” here
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>>581139393
>MyMacca
I fucking hate aussies so much
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>>581139674
do they last longer than 9 seconds? I can't imagine that's the case but I haven't seen it I guess
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>>581138916
maybe i got ebin troled by some shopped image then but i swear i saw crowd pummeler on one of those presentations with a cooldown when they showed lionheart and edgies aswell
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>>581134440
That has been literally every experience I have with another player in the open world since I came back to retail. What is up with that? Can they not see me? I say hello, I try to invite people, I try to chat to people. But they’re all like bots. I’ve had 1 dude say Hello back to me. And another say “haha same” when i mentioned how much i hated SM runs back in the day
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sky elves smell like rain for sure
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>>581131764
Why would you not take mana refund on crits???
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>>581139025
saves me spamming 4 gcds, can't complain too much about that, although its a bit soulless.

>>581139026
lmao, i wonder how lopsided the pvp ratio will get this time, and i wonder how well the goy-layering will keep the ratios from going too poorly?
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>>581139808
They are just aura effects like Grace of Air or whatever now, they aren't weapon buffs because the shaman weapon buffs specifically say they don't stack with the totems of the same type (I.E if you have Windfury Weapon you can't benefit from Windfury Totem).
So totem twisting is dead and rogues can benefit from WF/FT and sharpening stones have a use again
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>>581139651
Objective fact is not cope. I hate that they're charging for the race. But acting like they haven't always done that is certified bullshit.
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Apparently Shaman talents might not have been fully updated in the Demo and will have significant changes come tomorrow
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>>581139198
that looks like cult of the damned style, scourge cultists you see in strath and scholo
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>>581139543
It's just that everything past elemental devastation is very low impact
>damage bonus on spell crits
Your spell crit will be like 10%
>elemental focus
meh
>imp fire nova
great but I doubt your mana pool will allow you to use it on single targets on CD
Mana tide also helps your healer.
I hope I'm wrong and they somehow buffed mana regeneration like changing the formula or addin spirit to everything.
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>>581131668
>>581132490
alliance is the neo liberal zionist faction, Horde is Nazis. You Faggot. Blood Elves are literal Nazis and Orcs are Skinhead Nazis.
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>>581140071
Source?
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>Managed to buy 5 tokens in mop before they bugged out again
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F for rogues.
Don't even have improved expose armor now. No world buffs for raids either.
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>>581139968
3seconds cast time btw
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>>581139894
retail is a whole different social ecosystem, I believe it's been overtaken by antisocial players that insist on playing MMORPGs but I haven't played since the end of legion so I'm probably full of shit
I've only played turtle WoW and Epoch other than that and most people were chatty, but it still has those oddballs
I get not wanting to sit down and chat with me cause I can talk a lot, but some if their behavior negatively impacts them too
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>getting the wow itch again
>don't give a shit about retail
>don't give a shit about panda classic or whatever it is now
>too late to go back to "vanilla" and don't want to play warrior or mage
What is this exactly? Is it basically an expansion for classic? Can I finally be useful as a hunter?
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>>581140018
oh that's a lot worse than before, going to be a huge pain in the ass running around making sure melee have WF in some of these fights/trash pulls
unless they massively buffed the apply range
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I'm gonna FOMO in on the beta because it's a chance to play with both EU and NA folks at the same time... rip 60$.
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>collector's edition is already sold out
My statue...
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>>581132101
>pink bearded gnome with literal 1cm long dick and yelling about being a proud pedo
alliance players aka neo libs zog bots are weird
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>>581140198
Rumors on the Shaman discord that Aggrend talked to some streamers post Blizzcon and said as much
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>>581140342
>hunter
no
accept that you're a drooling monkey and try to better yourself by playing dorf shaman
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>>581140071
Enhancement int into spell power talent is a 30% conversion while paladins have the same shit at 100%
I hope they add mana stuff for enhance and elemental
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>AOE farms nerfed
>AOE damage past 4 targets nerfed
>Dungeon farming nerfed
So how do we farm now
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>>581140342
>Can I finally be useful as a hunter?
How shit exactly have you always been at this game? Not once has hunter not been anything but top performer.
Shitter, must be brown and esl
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>>581139129
Alliance had a 90% lose rate for AV in 2019/2020, after the initial few months of ally premades died down and it was pug vs pug.

That said, maybe they'll do some balancing in AV so its not so Horde favored.
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You retards are worse than gachafags because gachafags at least accept that their chosen slop is a Skinner box designed to leech money off of them
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>>581140342
nu-retail fresh, masked as classic +
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>>581140342
Vanilla with TBC/Wotlk talents, capped at 60 forever, no flying mounts so plenty of interactions with other players in the world. Better balanced vanilla but with LGBT writing, botting. Everyone will play it.
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Forever is going to be easy just like Niller/Classic so I'm gonna just pick whatever talents I want lmao. 99% of them are common sense picks or "pick this if you are PvPing" anyways
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>>581140523
tribute runs baaaybeee
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>>581140523
Single target marksman hunter with a damage to beasts racial and a damage enhanced skill from skinning/lw
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>>581140431
>he is going to miss out on the chance to beat streamers in lvl20 and 30 duel tournaments
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>Trolls do 5% more damage to beast
>Skinning makes you do 5% more damage to beasts and dragons
MAGMADAR I'M COMING TO KILL YOU IN REAL LIFE
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How do I keep my mind off of this until November?
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>>581140832
by playing it for the next month starting tomorrow
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The drums of war thunder once again
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>female
>human
>paladin

I’m ready!!
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>>581140071
Please move Lava Burst from the Elemental capstone and give us Lava Surge. Fucking please. It's all that I ask to make the rotation a little more engaging. An increase to FS duration would be appreciated as well, but I can live without it. Just please give me Lava Surge or even Fulmination (with reduced threat on ES so my tanks don't want to rape my face whenever I press it).
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>>581140872
its in 2 days in the real world
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you are obsessed with trannies
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>>581140550
thats because killing the pve objectives and losing instantly is the best case scenario for both retard bro
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>>581140946
peak tranny combination
i don't say this often but if you are not a biofem and you play that combination do consider keeping yourself safe
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>>581139025
"Totem twisting" was never fun and good, just like Bard twisting.
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>>581140550
>join AV as a 5man premade
>to your faction commander and die killing a couple fags
>hide in your faction towers and kill the dropfeed of fags trying to cap it
>move to your final bunkers if you're cheeky enough
>enemy faction doesn't have enough players to fight your faction leader
>turn the entire battleground into a stalemate

It was in TBC way back then so I might missremembered how we pulled it off but it was super fun, nonstop fighting at the towers until the whole thing was full of corpses, we even did corpse runs if one of us died
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>>581140872
me when i don't know what day it is
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Oh, oh, oh I'm in love with a tranny, tra-a-a-nny...
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>>581140510
>I hope they add mana stuff for enhance and elemental
For Elemental, the Cata version of Fulmination might be exactly what they need. It was 2% max mana gain whenever it procced an extra orb. Wasn't enough to let you from going OOM on your own, but it would be sufficiently better than just Clearcasting.
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>>581140946
for me, it's female human mage
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>>581140832
I don't understand how you can possibly be excited for what is essentially a retail reset lol that's essentially stripping the last vestiges of vanilla from the game, they're literally removing the original loading screens for child's storybook ones
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im going to gank every single faggy horde no shoe tranny orcgger faggot kid fucking dog sucking green back hobo sniffing rapist tranny 3rd worlder i see.

Kings honor friend.
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>>581141036
if you’re a bio male and play a male character then you’re a faggot. Cope
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>>581140946
>I’m ready!!
For warlocksdeath knight BGC!!!
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mop chvds getting flushed to forever
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>>581140961
>he does not wake up thursday to friday night to be a paid tester
ngmi
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>>581141150
Kings Honor!
The amount of undead rogue niggers getting shit on will be glorious
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>>581141034
>parsetranny bringing his NUMBERS MUST GO UP attitude to pvp
get shot by a nigger
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>>581141187
It's Tuesday in the real world, I'll be waking up Thursday MORNING to play.
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>>581141162
that doesn't even make sense
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>>581141036
I just like looking at a female character while I play anon, what’s the big deal?
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>>581140832
Frostmourne launches this saturday, come grind RDF with my druid
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>>581140549
>Not once has hunter not been anything but top performer.
Hunters were pretty much just utility hires in aq40 + nax. They don't scale anywhere as well as rogues wars mages or even locks as the gear gets better
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>>581141162
>A male roleplaying a male is gay
The tranny mental gymnastics regarding this topic is actually hilarious. Just accept you're in the pipeline
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>>581141270
that sounds kinda gay. besides, wouldn't it make more sense to play WITH a biofem instead of larping as one?
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>>581141246
only faggots choose male characters to gawk at their models. Chads and straights only play female characters because they’re not delusional and self insert. Get the cock out of your mouth.
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POCHIE WEDNESDAY!!!
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>>581140268
Rogues are NEVER EVER EVER allowed to do or have anything cool other than just being TBC rogue AGAIN because every new unique abillity they tested the rogue mains always used it to just grief harder.
Imagine something like Decoy where you can mimick other players or even the other faction?

Sounds fun right? Except it just gets used to grief harder 100% of the time so we can never have anything fun
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>AI slop everywhere
>"this game isn't for you"
>actually acknowledging the existence of Alexensual

Wow, it's like I'm really interacting with the Monsters & Memories community.
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>>581141181
The furries need to be kept on their containment server
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>>581141402
Epoch reborn is launching in a month.
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if you are not gay and play a male character then you must be some pathetic manlet loser wishing he was a real man
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>>581141307
but playing on a private server only to get shut down by blizzard is even worse than playing blizzard wow
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Wish we had some idea of how aggressive the sharding will be. Guess we will in the beta.
Will PvP servers in contested zones be non-stop group pvp battles where hunters and shamans can shine, or will it be kept to lower activity levels, where slow 1v1s can unfold and rogues can dominate?
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>>581141126
>water shield procs off any spell or melee crit and recovers a bit more mana
There, fixed
Elemental will be critting all the time and enhance will get about the same amount of crits thanks to white hits, stormstrike + shocks.
Enhance might not enjoy being forced to go resto though
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>>581140523
you will mine mithril and pick mushrooms in maraudon
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>>581141181
How would foreverkeks feel about moppies bringing in their collections?
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>>581141381
Why would I want to see one girl character on screen, when I could see two?
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>>581141468
The only time Alexensual should be acknowledged is when posting him getting killed by a level 17 hunter.
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You guys have been playing variants of vanilla for nigh on 20 years now and you guys still have zero idea how anything works in this game.
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fag shit suddenly starts being talked about, tranime avatars pop up
yup, it's a retoilet /wowg/ raid
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>>581131815
you forgot how they can now sacrifice 1 pet and summon and have another without losing the sac buff. so demo lock can have 15% shadow dmg buff and a void walker to reduce damage taken from the buff.
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>>581141521
Frostmourne is wotlk so it'll be safe, project epoch is classic+ so they'll shut it down hard
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>>581141150
>>581141221
*saps you and unstealths*
>undeadlaugh.wav
>/wave
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>>581141648
moppies are sent straight to retoilet
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global chat will be useless with no realms
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>>581141751
just toggle it bro
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>>581141542
The server will shart itself until it's no longer clogged, simple as.
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>>581141542
>non-stop group pvp battles where hunters and shamans can shine

You mean warlocks. Those fags just sit in the back line tab targeting their cancer dots with the occasional nuke to kill someone at 20% hp
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>>581141804
toggle what?
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>>581141710
The target audience for world of warcraft is aging 30+ boomers who like anime
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>>581141751
>global chat
>the entire population of wow in one single chat
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>>581141481
For real?
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>>581141905
my dick
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>rogue in pvp will have access to cold blood, prep and imp sprint at the same time
holy shit lmao
rogue is going to be the worst cancer to fight against
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>>581141932
Barrens Chat about to be WILDIN'
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>>581141563
I hate the idea of being forced to take Water Shield when there are more interesting ways to ameliorate Elemental's mana struggles. Especially since this version of WS consumes the orbs for mana so you'll be spending a ton of GCD's keeping it up. That just sounds awful.
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>>581141942
Yeah, pre-launch stress test in 10 days.
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>>581141710
>fag shit suddenly starts being talked about, tranime avatars pop up
>yup, it's a retoilet /wowg/ raid
Sweaty, that's your Target Audience.
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>>581141932
that chat box ain’t gonna have the constitution to handle all that girth
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>/join world
having fun
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>>581142021
who’s in charge of the project now?
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>>581141932
>[The Blackrock Slicer] stole my bike
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>>581141932
Literal fucking purgatory.
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>>581141854
Peppering everyone with dots doesn't really do anything, the damage just gets healed. You need burst to kill people. Hunters, shamans, even druids have better burst than warlock.
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>>581141996
>blind is poison instead of physical
>humans can break stun as a racial
>every other class has been buffed up in comparison to rogues
i’m thinking these RATS about to get flushed
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>npcs are blocking my hero so i can't cross the bridge and finish the mission
bravo blizzard, never cease to amaze me
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>>581141932
this is why all the euros here are moving to NA because every other realm than NA is gonna be a mixed toliet with 20 languages
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>>581141996
They don't even have cloak of shadows, they're going to be shit
They're going up against reck bomb pallies, SL/SL locks, mages with ice lance, EMFH+perception humans, and 35% stun reduction orc warriors. Everything is stacked against them, they have no chance
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>>581142191
just kill them? you can even see their healthbars begging you to attack
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>>581142090
It's the dude who made the EpochHead website, he was joined by some other developers along the way.
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>sac imp for 15% shadow damage done
>summon void walker for 10% less physical dmg vs melee
>summon felhunter vs casters for 10% magic dmg taken
>30% less damage taken from soul link
>30% more stealth detection with felhunter
>6 sec less cd on counterspell
>100% of your level spell damage
>instant shadow bolt procs
>drain life range increased
>drain life damage and heal increased per debuff
>5% more dmg on all dots
>15% of your damage heals your pet as you fight and your pet takes damage from soul link or from enemy player
>death coil
>fear
>curse of tongues
>double void walker sacrifice for massive absorb if needed
>healthstone
HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO FIGHT THIS?! WTF IS THIS
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>>581142226
delusional
why the fuck would anyone play with burgers
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>>581142191
>reforged looks like an ai generated fake mobile game
>you'll be forced to look at this style of graphics if you wanna play the new expansion
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Gnome warlock or gnome priest?
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>>581142191
Flag PvP retard
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>>581142295
oh i tried
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>>581142364
>Americans are worse than Fr*nch G*rmans or Bulgarians
don't speak up again larper
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>>581131815
>>581132850
>>581137539
Isn't Demonic Pact better than Siphon Life anyway? You get to keep the much more substantial health regen from sacrificing the Felhunter while Soul Linking with another pet.
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>>581142379
how's that even a question? do you want to heal or dps?
>b-but shadow
most mind numbingly boring pve spec of all time
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>>581142363
You can't summon a void walker and a felhunter and get both benefits after already sacrificing the imp. You get the benefits of 1 sac while 1 is still up.
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>>581142226
Nah, the thirdies will pick their own languages and get filtered out, and if anyone so much as hints as using anything other than english in the chat I'll just set my addon up to auto-report
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What we wanted
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>>581141996
they wont have raid gear though because nobody invited them lmao
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>>581142487
you retard learn to read
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>>581131510
>Xaryu is streaming WoW Forever Beta
>Tune into a WoW stream for the first time since Asmongold in 2019
>It's an unwatchable boring slog
Damn, it really was old Assmoldgold that kept it entertaining uh
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>>581142364
Go back to /pol/
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>>581142392
???
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Warriors get -50% heal reduc on mortal strike?

wtf isn’t that kinda broken?
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>>581142480
It's not fucking 1.12.1 Shadow, anon. It's basically TBC Shadow. It has more going on in its rotation than any Lock spec in Forever.
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>What we wanted
What we got
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>>581131716
Even without eureka the 5 extra energy on opener and escape artist having a duration effect would still make them a solid rogue pick
They should replace it with something that's more pve oriented and usless in pvp like all the other races got
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>>581142226
Nah, I wont have high ping just to read niggerbabble.
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>>581142465
anyone not having sac + soul link is retarded
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yeah im gonna be playing a resto druid
instant cast wild growth? flippin heckin ye!
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>>581142465
Probably but I think there's a case to be made for siphon life in certain situations
Siphon life is only going to get better with stronger gear and more targets, also dots crit now
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What would've been kino is if they made a "neutral" faction.
You see tons of groups in vanilla that are a mix of many races.
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>>581142568
NTA but it's pretty obvious you can't have multiple demon sacrifice buffs up at once, because that would be 1) busted as fuck 2) a pain in the ass to rebuff 3) they'd all have to be considered separate spells
I'd love to be wrong though
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>>581142728
>America is all le nigger
Go back to /pol/
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>>581142568
Anon maybe you should read the post you are quoting again
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>>581142592
literally can't go around them you can dash through them with one of the heroes ability but you need both of them to reach the objective
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>>581142568
>the horde's smartest warlock
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>>581142647
just dont get hit>?
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>>581142728
less than 1% of the playerbase in NA is nonwhite or non asians faggot
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>>581142837
alguien espanol
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>>581142463
having northern euros in your guild mogs the everliving shit out of any other option
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>>581142226
name them raajesh, I bet you don't even know 5
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>>581142659
So...instead of just spamming mind flay you also throw in a mind blast?
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>>581142568
>thinks you can double sac the same pet
>tells others to learn to read
Nigga u tarded.
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>>581142837
zamn
u a bit triggered wyt boi
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>>581142837
>>581142924
uh oh,negro melty
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I want to be undead paladin but warrior charge....I can't explain it, but it's just so satisfying
They should give palas divine leap or that sword throw+teleport that angel in hots has
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>>581142931
>>581142945
>poltroons got upset because euroneets are moving to play on north america instead of playing with the french and russians on the mixed eurotoliet
kek
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>>581142851
that's fucking retarded on blizz's part
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>>581143008
they should give paladins a brez too
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>>581143048
bro no one is switching to north america just so they can play with 80 IQ niggers and high ping
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>>>>>>>Europe
can't even beat us in minigames in world of warcraft settle down europoors
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>>581142924
Lmao. NA is 80% pakis, Iranians, mexican monkeys and groids
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>*click spanish language layering*
>suddenly niggers, muslims, mudslimes, broken english, insufferable nepo burgers, indians dissapear
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>>581143008
undead paladins will have the same reputation as hunters in classic
literal children who are dogshit at the game
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>>581142972
>tfw you live in a majority white country and you'll most likely never have a chance to plunge yourself deep inside a black hole
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>>581142487
>>581142828
>>581142846
>>581142909
>>581142970

you understand the concept of you basically have 30% base less dmg taken by soul link and THEN you choose either VW or felhunter depending on what youre fighting to gain extra 10% dmg reduction? once again. learn to read. you will always have the 15% dmg buff from imp since you are not resummoning the imp after sacing it. you guys are mongoloids.

>YOUR SACRIFICE IS NO LONGER CANCELLED BY SUMMONING A DIFFERENT PET
>you summon imp and sac it gaining 15% shadow dmg done
>then you summon voidwalker if you are wanting physical reduction on dmg
>or felhunter vs spellcasters
end result, 15% shadow dmg done, 30% from soul link and 10% from either felhunter or vw.

YOU MONG WINDOW LICKERS.
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>>581143008
Paladins get a crazy new passive movespeed talent to help close the gap
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Please make melee hunter a thing
Please make melee hunter a thing
Please make melee hunter a thing
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Is there an archive of all of the Skyborne images that anon has been posting? If anyone has most of them, please start a mega
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>>581141735
yeah i bet your think ur a woman too LMAO
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>>581143163
haha i thought this was really funny when you posted it in the previous threads too
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>>581143178
wowg is is next door if you wanna talk about bestiality kupo
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>>581143190
sadly survival has a melee focus
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>>581143163
Ay gueyyyy dios mio de gringos products are soooo good but I cannot stop sucking cock ay papi CULOOOOOO
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>>581142570
Yep. And now that Asmongold has become an identity politics obsessed freak he doesn’t even talk about WoW. I checked his clips channel after Blizzcon and it was just videos about the Lindsay Clancy trial and not a single video about WoW. We need a new entertaining chud WoW streamer to fill the void.
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>>581142945
Farsi, Arabic, Hindi, Punjabi, Sanskrit
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>>581143048
it's common knowledge that people from NA choose to play on EU because the community isn't infested by subhuman mongoloids
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>>581142961
While keeping up SW:P and VE, and using SW:D during execute phase/on low health mobs. That's objectively more happening in their rotation than any Lock spec looks to have in Forever. Affliction is just keep DoT's and spam Drain Hope, Demonology is just that but with Shadow Bolt except it can use Soul Fire during execute phase, and Destro is just keep up Immolate, spam Incinerate, and consume then refresh Immolate when Conflagrate is off CD. Shadow has more to do.
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>>581141307
How does Ethereal Soulshifter work. Do I pick a race and have it's full kit or can i mix and match?
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>language setting

will it work on trade chat or lfg chat as well?
if not...fuck...the spanish guild requirements will trigger me
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>>581143190
survival is mele dual 2h or dual wield spec now
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>>581143163
Es verdad! larga vida Hispania. IX Legion.
The only Empire to try and do well for humanity.
Cristo Rey.
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>>581143179
i dont think the lads replying to you know that voidwalker shield is not a sac
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>>581143208
this video had been posted probably around 20,000 times over the last few years only by coping paladingers
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>>581143341
and you're still doing less damage than the warlock so what's the point. besides how much value do spriest bring if they don't have their mana battery shit?
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>>581143179
You literally said...
>double void walker sacrifice for massive absorb if needed
...you stupid fucking nigger. People are telling you that you can't do that.
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>Aussiechad gave me a free beta code
bless you roos
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>>581143179
>horde's smartest warlock
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>>581143458
Paladins are trash in vanilla. We all know this. But the fact that they can still 1 shot people with reckoning stacks is hilarious.
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Those little shits better not be thinking about adding lock tanks
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>>581143190
they are trying to push dual wield melee hunter but they did not give your offhand extra hit only damage so you cant hit shit
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>Guild leaders emptying guild banks in the dead of night to buy tokens and quit
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I hope the new language settings will mean I won't have to interact with people who refuse to speak english and link stuff in trade chat in french/german
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>>581143449
yet again they are proving me correct when i said in a previous general that /vg/ wow players are DOGSHIT at the game. every single time any of them have posted their char name without fail its some reject that never made it past lvl 50.
>>581143529
you stupid fucking piece of shit retard mongoloid pls stop breathing you are so bad at the game. go check the tooltip of fel domination and undestand the concept of DOING 1 VOIDWALKER SHIELD THEN DOING 1 MORE RIGHT AFTER IT IS USED UP.
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>>581143163
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>>581143542
the code isn't to the beta, it's week free trial on launch day. didnt you read it?
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>>581143613
insallah there will be warlock tanks
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>>581143508
>most mind numbingly boring pve spec of all time
Why are you moving the goalposts to prove how correct you are? You didn't say shit about damage. You said that anon should play Lock because SPriest isn't fun in PvE. I pointed out that they have a more engaging rotation than Locks, not that they might do more damage.
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>>581136259
enjoy buying my 10k boar leather, pissfrog
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>>581143163
>Click spanish
>Have to play with Subhuman low IQ Ragnaros Brazillians
no thanks brownie
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>>581143529
that is literally a vanilla warlock move where you use your demonology skill for an instant second summon after you kill the first voidwalker for the shield
the shield is not a demonic sacrifice it is a voidwalker pet skill
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>>581143676
Donnerzorn, Gesegnete Klinge des Windsuchers
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>>581143613
this.
i'll probably play lock but if they are going SoD route, i'm out
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>>581143635
Considering they made Mongoose bit and Raptor Strike actually scale off of weapon damage and they gave a new 100% weapon damage attack I'm pretty sure 2h will be the play regardless, I think the offhand thing is there just for people who are desperate to try it, I don't think it has any chance of competing with 2h in the current iteration.
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>>581142970
>>581142909
>>581142846
>>581142828
>not knowing voidwalker sacrifice is different from demonic sacrifice
The smartest scholars on Azeroth...
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>>581143613
Aggrend confirmed today in an interview Lock and Sammy tank won't be in for at least the first year although they might be open to it later on if enough people want it.

Also Shaman build shown during Blizzcon was pre-cooked and we'll see a massive overhaul for them when the Beta releases
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>>581143732
is it fun to do less damage than real dps specs?
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>>581143613
>know that 60% of the server will be ret paladins that only dps
>add cloth tank to make up for it
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>>581143787
>calls others low iq
>says spanish = brazilian portuguese
lol lmao even
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>>581143679
Jesus Christ you're hopelessly fucking retarded, aren't you? God 4chan needs to fucking range ban India/SEA so fucking bad.
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>>581143902
>He is so fucking retarded he doesn't know Brazillians speak Portugese and Spanish
nonwhites really are lesser
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>>581143613
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>>581143889
this is a good idea, new class needs to be able to tank and heal.
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Realistically we have no idea how classes will play until they uncap at least lvl 30 for the beta, they’ll hopefully extend the beta for a few extra days and do lvl 40 aswell so we can test a full spec

With the QoL improvements i think most classes will be really fun except rogues and mages desu. They were already overtuned in old vanilla so everyone else getting buffed is by proxy a giganerf for them
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>>581143458
lmfao roguegger are fucking sad
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>>581143905
>range ban India/SEA
trvke nvke
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>>581143956
Post hand and I post mine, let's see who's browner silly burger boy living in a collapsing empire.
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Brazillians use the spanish option because there is no Portugese option.

So yeah if you choose Espanol you get to play with Mexicans and Brazillians and Cuban favelachimps. No thanks spanish troon
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How does Aggrend manage to stay so fat
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>>581139770
If you knew how to read you would know I'm going to play, little faggot loser.
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>>581144140
mana biscuits lol!
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is blutz doing anything bout bots? if not i wont craft anything lolmao
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>>581143878
link? cant find this
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>>581144140
Chicken and Winigish
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>>581144001
hasan coded
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>>581143845
yeah the new kick is basically mortal strike without healing reduction and it got me interested
the talent that gives melee crit damage has the offhand baked into it so it would feel weird to use it anyway on 2h and if you are weaving ranged/melee you would want to go deeper into marksmanship since sitting there with a slow 2 hander would also feel shit
also you cant go melee with a pet since the good stuff is so deep in beastmastery theres no chance for that
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>>581143995
we'll be able to figure enough out that it will be interesting for a lot of that month, which kind of makes me wish there was no beta
so now the annoying part instead of not knowing how certain interactions work is instead now knowing if they are going to nerf certain things
Gnome racial Eureka is the biggest standout for completely fucked we'll see if anything else comes up
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>>581144140
>Sedentary desk job
>5000 unhealthy options within arms reach in Los Angeles at all times
it's really easy to be an aging 40+ year old fat man
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>>581144081
>mexicans, brazilians, cubans
vs
>niggers, muslims, broken english, indians
not the W you're thinking burger boy
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>>581144079
>The empire will collapse any moment now! Just two more weeks!
Sopa de macacoids are so funny
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>>581144184
morbidly obese nepo baby hire, literally has no life skills and does nothing else but sit on his obese rear and engorge fast food slop will most likely perish within the next 5-9 years
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>>581143905
You cannot be this idiotic, you have to be trolling. I can't believe someone so stupid can post ITT. Please off yourself.
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>>581143613
they will tank twin emps anyway let them have it
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>>581140454
they could produce for demand but they prefer artificial scarecity and scalpers. Sorry fan!
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>>581144347
Yeah browns are muslims, broken english speaking, and third world correct that's why I play in NA and use EN and not third world babble languages like Spanish.
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>>581144181
>im going to play
>i also just want to bitch and moan about how bored i’m going to be playing past my main
You’re stinking up the thread when you talk with your ass
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>>581144332
Isn’t that shit expensive as fuck like one meal at in & out like $50?
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>>581144376
he cooked tho
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>don't want the gay elf race
>don't want any of the stupid cosmetic shit
>just want to play the beta
do I really have to pay 60 bucks just so I can try things out?
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>>581143995
>except rogues and mages desu
At least in terms of PvE, Sub rogue looks really fun. It has procs to mix up the rotation. Frostfire Mage could be fun too, depending on how you end up building it.
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>>581144140
maxxed out leveling talents for longer food buff
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>>581144347
muslims and niggers don't play wow, aren't playing in na, and poos are a minority in my country spanishtroon
meanwhile you get to play with favelachimps with 60iq speaking in 5 versions of spanish kek
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>>581144421
NA has more of those than any hispanic nation, what is the point you're trying to make here? every time you post you look more and more retarded
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>>581144245
>also you cant go melee with a pet since the good stuff is so deep in beastmastery theres no chance for that
The Hawk ability in BM has no minimum range, I could definitely see you picking that up since it shares a cooldown with Arcane Shot but would be much better.
In its current form the capstone for Survival is totally worthless, 40% of 1 Mongoose Bite over 21 seconds is laughable except for cucking rogues in PvP.
Could see this being a build personally, assuming they don't buff that bleed.
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>>581144184
he had that sugar power in him, when he was on stage
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>>581144480
You can opt into the beta and how got an invite like with every other beta they've ever done. I'm sure streamers will also be handing out invites en masse.
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>>581144592
>Click EN option
>Turrn off Mexicans and Brazillian subhumans
>>>muslims
>>>>english
LMFAOOOO
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>>581144347
This ESL has been defending thirdie balkan europeans for 3 generals now. He is ooga booga seething.
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>>581144546
>muslim and niggers don't play wow
stoped reading there
>>581144701
>calls others ESL while being ESL
only ESLs point at others for being ESL.
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>>581144592
>umm actually the minority population of muslims who don't speak english are going to take over your server
>click Spanish option
>subhuman brown ESLbabble favelachimps with 60iq
you'll never win this argument kek nobody picks favelachimps over english options like in IRL all your cousins risk their lives to ccome here
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>>581144637
Yeah, the Survival capstone is confusingly bad. Maybe they kept it so low so you don't feel bad about clipping it? But surely they could have made something more interesting than that.
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>>581144140
hes married
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>>581144546
>favelachimps with 60iq speaking in 5 versions of spanish kek
that's literally 30% of the USA
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>>581144247
I like having some information ahead of time because I usually know what archetypes I enjoy playing and being able to make informed decisions with mostly complete toolkits is nice, kinda sucks to level something to 55 and realize it has zero AOE and huge mana issues and basically you're shit out of luck
it's way more fun to discover dungeons and quests blind tho
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>>581144762
>bro bro im not a thirdie BALKANS STRONG BRO
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>>581144795
>we don't have that here!
>nigger majors everywhere
>muslim major
>ruled by jews
uhm what
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>>581144762
>Muslims and niggers make up less than 1% of English speaking WoW servers
yeah you had to stop reading because its was putting too much strain on your small intellect and ESL reading comprehension
>>581144848
>NA server is the best wow players in the world
>>All our world first teams are whites and asians
>>>muh 60iq subhuman immigrants who don't play in English!
Subhuman IQ at work..
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>>581144762
>stoped reading there
Yes, we know that parsing English is a strenuous undertaking for you.
>stoped
Not beating the ESL allegations, kek
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>>581144654
aint no one that opted in is getting in. otherwise they wouldnt sell it
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For me, its hunter.
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>>581144960
Uh oh poltranny melty
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>>581145081
haha upvoted! very funny!
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>Spanishtrannies are having a melt down because an American said nobody wants to play in Spanish with low iq subhuman Mexicans
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>>581137508
>i have to PAY for those things on the SIDE now?
>blizzard PLEASE milk my fat WALLET COCK and make me PAY YOU $60 instead!!
LOL?
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>>581144762
>stoped
Balkans trying to communicate with humans. LOL.
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>>581145007
surely they'll see I haven't played in a decade and throw me an invite
they gotta re-hook the ancient customers dipping their toes in again
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>>581145047
why would you tie a bow string to an arrow?
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>itt anglos defending their brown pets
>claiming everyone is brown and has less iq than them while also unable to write a proper sentence
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>>581145081
>that first post
retoilet player are mentally ill
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>>581143721
yes, I did read it
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>>581145007
They've sold beta access to other shit and still sent out a fuckton of opt-in invites. People who opt in are probably more likely to actually test shit then people who pay just to play early.
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>>581143668
burgers gonna burger
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>reading reddit cryposts about how its unfair people can disable tmob
my cock is throbbing so hard
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make new wow baketards
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>>581145294
ay guey please gib me green card americans!
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>>581145187
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>finally overtaken in posts per minute by the Fire Emblem general, because they're doomposting at a mile a minute
We're washed
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>>581145206
>he never used a bow as a melee weapon
ngmi
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>>581145206
>shoot the arrow
>it comes back because you tied it to the bow
literally infinite ammo
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Hating Americans is very telling of what kind of subhuman you are.
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Do /we/ have a guild for beta planned or no
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>>581144992
Ranjish you can stop the vpn
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>>581145379
Giving the third world the internet was a mistake.
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>>581145340
>we should have to pay blizzard $60 on top of the $15 per month instead
ive.. never seen goy cattle so jittery to get milked
you are so weird
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>ctrl+F tranny: 32 hits
>ctrl+F trannies: 3 more hits
>ctrl+F troon: 7 hits
Why are you guys so contemptuous toward trannies? Your game is made by them and populated almost entirely by them. There wouldn't be a World of Warcraft: Forever without them.
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>>581144823
It really needs an extra 0 on it to be honest.
Personally, I'm gonna go for that BM/Melee build with a 2h and a pet. Dual Wielding with no extra hit chance is mega cringe, and all of the survival melee attacks are now weapon% based and no talent to make them hit with both weapons mean they will be trash compared to 2h.
I get why people like Lone Wolf, pet AI sucks and this entire debate will be rendered moot if they don't give the pets avoidance, but having a pet is part of hunter for me, though I understand people just want to play Marskmen/Rangers and so on.
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>>581145540
>You guys
>Trannies
go back Sarjeep /pol/ is still there you dont have to come here to push this agenda
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>>581145520
Agreed. I wish we could remove all the balkans and the eastern world (except japan) from the internet.
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>>581137508
>yeah that's right. you got the entire expansion, and the races were included as part of that.
>all the mounts and items were also a part of that. you pay the price of the expansion and get all the content. like, once every two years.
Bingo.
Trannies are here defending them splitting the Expansion up piecemeal then charging 5x as much for all the individual elements.
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>>581145379
>Hating jew tax payers is very telling of what subhuman you are
HAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH no WHITE PERSON would say such shit
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>>581145432
Whoops, I guess I broke the Markov chain.
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>call NA server chats niggerbabble as a joke
>start a thread long /pol/ racewar
Uhm, sorry...
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>>581145550
pet is more than 20% damage even with no points in BM
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>>581145540
this poster is a faggy brown lmao
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somebody insulted south americans so now he's crying about americans for 5 hours again
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>>581145206
looks like ai slop to me
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>>581133417
WHO THE FUCK was asking for blue blood elves?
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>>581145594
Today I will remind they/them.
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>>581145540
>Your game is made by them
Doubt
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>>581145540
I think it's just like 3 deranged euro NEETs that post at all hours
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somebody insulted the anglosphere so now they are having a melty
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>>581145629
Browns took it as an Elk Bugle call to arms to start /pol/shittery about burgers.
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>>581145081
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>>581145604
You are not White little balkan thirdie.
>>581145685
Really, anyone I've ever met or seen that spews hate against Americans, is without fail, a subhuman brown skinned that larps as ''le based aryan''. But in reality they are a thirdie that speaks some ooga booga language.
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>>581145550
I think they need to put Lone Wolf deeper into MM to disincentivize Survival wanting it at all. When people say "I want Survival to be melee so I can play a melee Hunter", 90% of them mean "I want to be a melee pet class". No other spec than MM should have any reason to take Line Wolf. Then you have ranged pet spec, ranged bow/gun spec, and melee pet spec. That's exactly what each of those specs should be going for.
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>>581145770
>only euros hate trannies

yeah ok tranny
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Do horizontalfags think people are gonna raid 10 hours a week for slightly more optimized stat spreads?

After the third or so tier after Naxx you might be getting 1-3% more DPS on an entire set. Which raises the question of why would healers bother raiding for gear of the same iLvL?
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>>581145824
>mystery meat mcdonalds bag calling the shots on being White
not looking good
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>>581145824
Prettymuch. You can tell when it's a European insulting us but the brown turdies immediately start spouting brown race theory about how America is actually worse than their favela because reddit told them Americabad
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>>581145707
my hunch is that Blizzard was doing some sort of ritual. Even having Ana on stage at the Deep Dive was uncanny. Ana doesn't look like The Goddess, but she was like cosplaying as her. and I'm not saying that Ana looks like her. Ana's face is different and Ana is too short and has a different body. But it was like a sort of near subliminal cosplay.

The whole thing is incredibly esoteric.
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>>581145760
He's a retoilet refugee who keeps saying forever is made for retail players in here because like all retail players hes a pathetic, vindictive person who seeks to cause problems wherever he goes.
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>>581145909
There aren't "tiers" in horizontal progression, just gear that is better for certain pieces of content.
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so which faction in forever is gonna be for based chads and which one is gonna be for cringe trannies?
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>>581145824
its always brownie cope about how americans are nonwhites because we have 50 million non english speaking mexicans here illegally now.
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>>581145813
source: written on reddit
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>>581146002
anon, it would take that jeet 3 generations of wealth to be able to play forever for one month, and he already spent it all on discord nitro for his tranny lover (meme note: all the imgs that was sent to the jeet poster were AI filters of a man)
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>>581145909
you think parsetrannies would pass up 1 to 3%
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>>581145909
to have fun with the boys
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>>581145981
They don't even deserve your pity brother. There are people like me, fellow White from the EU that respects White Americans. I hate 90% of the EUfags, they're subhuman trash and their brains are messed up because their internal dialogue is ooga booga monkey language. Can you imagine if your internal voice was sticks and stones moon rune speak?
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>>581145824
>>581145981
>>581146141

>90 seconds apart
zZZzz nu-huyte people think they are smart lmao
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>>581146042
wow raiding doesnt have different types of content
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what are we rolling in Forever?
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>>581146182
>everybody in the thread is my boogeyman
take your meds Jose
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>>581145594
This is the most pol thread on vg thoughbeit. This thread is DigiDelhi and we all know it.
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>>581146147
what better place to detail the lives of those freaks than their own kind
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>>581146214
for me it's female gnome priestess with pigtails
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>>581146214
Undead Warlock tank PvP EU
Locked in
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>>581146214
Undead Holy Pally
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>>581146182
Your little thirdie brain is struggling. Brownie.
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>>581146173
>I am le superior
>let me spam the thread of WoW:Forever with insufferable gossip about how 500 years ago the White man did things (ignoring the rest of humanity where they did nothing and were literal third worlders compared to Romans)
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>>581144454
calm down mr tranny
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>>581146141
Saw you arguing this exact point yesterday which is sad to think about.
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>>581146436
Cope more about your ooga booga ethnicity. It amuses me.
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>>581145909
you play a game for fun, not for loot
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>>581145909
>Do horizontalfags think people are gonna raid 10 hours a week for slightly more optimized stat spreads?
They/them at Blizz are doubling down on it too.
"We're intentionally putting the occasional randomly overpowered drop sprinkled across bosses!"
As if anyone is gonna farm months-old shit for the Rogue's BIS or some shit.
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I almost bet these "white chads" don't even know that the origin of english came from Holy Roman teaching their mudhut people.
When the romans arrived north they were shocked that people were living in literal mudhouses.
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>>581146579
>whites agreeing that nonwhite brownies are shitting up the internet is just one guy on the internet
holy brown
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>>581146491
>begger
Saaaaar I cannot in to English saaar
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>>581146214
I cooked up a lot of characters.

I just finished concepting a Black Bearded Dwarf Male Marksmanship Hunter who is greedy , only uses Guns, and has a Wolf Pet ( RP'd as his beloved Big Dog and guard dog ).
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>>581146671
TRUEEEEEE WHITES ARE THE MUDHUTTERS NOT US BROOOOOOO ON GOD FR FR
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>>581146491
>begger
The balkan hurts itself in its confusion.
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>>581146214

Half-Elf Dalarani OR Sky Elf Male Arcane Mage
Sky Elf Male Balance Druid
Night Elf Male Restoration Druid

There's more, I only listed a few.
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>>581146648
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581146491
581146585
581146671
581146691
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581146807
can you guys please take this to /int/ or something
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World of Warcraft discussion, please...
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Why the fuck are we talking about the Balkans?
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>>581146671
lmfao this brown cuck is so mad at real white people and is just now understading the only ones that allow them to be around them are the mentaly ill trannys

REMINDER, this thread is about world of warcraft, a game that you have to pay for, and 3rd worlders are mad because they cant afford it and blizzard shut down all of the pserver. and in reality all pservers are, are stolen IP. once again, brown niggers cant do anything but steal and we wuzz when they get put in their brown little place. wtf janjeet finna do? farm a token? OH WAIT LMFAO
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>>581146990
This but tauren paladins
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>>581147021
High Warlord WhiteMMOSavior... you're browner than I expected.
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>>581147021
Are you illiterate perhaps? anon told the truth, dumbass
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>>581146956
obviously one of them is the janny since this isn't getting snipped
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>Brown incels crying about us not wanting to play videogames with them and opting out.
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>>>/int/
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>>581146990
i want tauren paladins purely because femtaurs look good in plate
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>>581147021
>u-ur brown if you hate greedy western corporate hebrew monetization!
Sure thing, schlomo.
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Reminder: If you aren't ethnically Western European or Scandinavian you aren't white and your opinion DOES NOT MATTER, so please stop posting.
Thank you.
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Please hombre come play on the Hispanic server don't make your white only servers
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>>581145392
Go to the PvP realm for anon guilds
RP and PVE seem to be millennial retirement home
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>>581147021
>>581147134
The shill actually bought a 4chan pass for this spam.
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>>581147178
I want tauren rogues..
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>>581147235
PvP is for 28+ LVM
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>>581146990
>jew propaganda
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>>581147338
wtf is lvm
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>>581147235
For me, it's

RP, RP-PVP, and Hardcore.
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>>581147316
>Opts out of playing with third worlders who don't speak English
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>>581147467
logical volume manager
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>>581147187
im a french chad but sandeep says im not white...
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>>581144457
cooked a few thousand mcdonald whoopers down his gullet yes
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>>581146491
>>581146860
Go reset your router now, little balkan boy.
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Aussie anons I will SUCK your dick
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>>581147512
>i cant edit this in paint in 5 seconds
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>>581147182
Oy vey America is zog not like my 99% muslim Arabic country of child rapists
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>>581146990
I'm very excited to world PVP as a druid. switching forms and going between ambushing and casting spells and charging as a bear is awesome and feels cool
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>>581147467
lesbians vs moids
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>>581147618
>Opts out [-]
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>>581147368
why do they aussies look like that
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>>581147615
/v/ro.. just swipe the Epic pack...

you could put 10 dollars in a memecoin at the beginning of the day and make it 100 dollars... then swipe...
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>>581147619
Engaging in debate with subhuman thirdies is futile brother. Just laugh at them instead.
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>>581147629
Clearcasting makes druid so comfy to level
procs near mob deat? fat free regrowth and move on to killing more mobs
free shreds
I saw a streamer bear swipe spamming in a dungeon and it wasn't proccing as much as on turtle unfortunately
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>>581147615
oink oink piggy
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>>581147467
low value men which is about 95% of the entire WoW community on all servers
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>>581146214
of course im running undead pally, of course. But also:
tauren druid
tauren shammy
gnome mage
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new lvm thread
>>581147948
>>581147948
>>581147948
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>>581146214
dorf sham enh
dorf pala holy/ret
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>>581147615
>>581147368
this skullological infographic now makes perfect sense
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>>581145047
Sexy night elf daddy
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>>581136250
Maybe he plans to spec water shield for more sustain and less dmg
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>>581131510
going to pom/arcane power at 4xab stacks and nuke shit
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LILI STORMSTOUT IS STILL A LOLI IN THIS TIMELIME

FOREVERCHADS WONNED
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