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Let The Good Times Roll Edition

Previous highly social behaviors: >>581138168

Spoilers ahead, proceed at your own Frisk.

-DELTARUNE CHAPTER 1-5
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1671210/DELTARUNE/
>https://deltarune.com

-The Old Game
>https://undertale.com
-The Old Game's Demo
>https://undertale.com/demo

-The New Game's Progress
>https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/
>https://deltarune.com/#news
>https://web.archive.org/web/20240815033908/http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sqn3p9

-Merch
>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/undertale
>https://www.fangamer.com/collections/deltarune

-Books
>https://pastebin.com/1MRmU0Gk (Undertale Artbook)
>https://pastebin.com/hLxHi0a0 (Legends of Localization - Undertale)

-Extra Content
>https://undertaleqa.tumblr.com
>https://undertale.com/alarmclock
>https://deltarune.com/sweepstakes/

-Text Dumps & Screenshots
>https://pastebin.com/79FxaVBV

-Fanart Archives
>https://pastebin.com/5777YtCb
>https://utg.vidya.pics/

-Recommendbin
>https://pastebin.com/fsqd5Sa6

-Writebins
>Current: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZaYVvltQ_Rmf-ggszf1bwmYDW2NUcfpTYU7JzfyMhVE
>Old: https://writebin.surge.sh

-Comicbin
>https://pastebin.com/UJpBYSEE

-Fangamebin
>https://archive.is/iSiFg

-/vg/ League team
>https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//utg/

-Wanna change the font?
>https://rentry.org/utg-font

-/utg/ Canvases
>Current: https://r7.whiteboardfox.com/77255373-4700-9787
>Previous: https://r7.whiteboardfox.com/77236673-9723-5653
>Current: https://magma.com/d/3B5chWd0Vh
>Previous: https://magma.com/d/QiFH9rWyRh

-Pippins Wiki
>https://utg-pippins-ocs.neocities.org

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personal creations anchor, reply with your latest work!
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Imagine if a Dark World formed in a bathroom and someone walked in and was like
>Oh, come on! I just want to pee...
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These threads are flying!!! Fun!
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>dice OP
which darkners/lightners would fujo get along with? (not counting pippins)
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>>581155106
Pizzapants…
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*screams like a sissy*
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SEX
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>>581155162
Toby hates Catti
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She's your Dad's best friend
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the best thing about dice is they dont sweat so you just bury your face in their plastic pits
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>>581154984
Hooman!
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reminder: posting rations are in effect. please only make important posts to conserve thread space. thank you
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>>581155181
Noelle and Alphys for sure
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>>581152001
>Darkner fave
Couldn't a desire of a nursing handjob when entering/making the darkworld enable fave to lactate? They are influenced by their "creator" after all. Feels like this is the "drug" equivalent option just you need to be very needy entering/creating it.
>Possible for a darkner to get pregnant
Do darkners have bodily functions? If there's worlds where they can get hungry/thirsty, need to relieve themselves in the dark-world, etc. Then I'd imagine they could get pregnant? They'd already be extremely close to lightner biology so I don't see a reason why it couldn't make the last hop?
>What would happen to the baby
Maybe this is what Ralsei is or something. It'd likely exist as a sentience of both light and dark. Having your essence and dreams while influenced by the darkners' physical form? Imagine being this half-n-half probably leads to either a plantner situation where light-world its just cum on an object you can't wash off, or nears Roaring Knight territory where the 'lightner essence' keeps the dark-world form alive just enough to exist in both, even if preferable in the dark world. Perhaps because it isn't a FRIEND DESS PHANTASM UMBRAL PINK BOREALIS Thing, it won't be of a tortured existence.
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diapertranny is like sans and papyrus in that one day he just showed up out of nowhere and asserted himself like he was always there
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>>581155195
More like Pissapants lol
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Regarding mysteries we already roughly know the shape of Deltarune's answers anyways despite pretending otherwise. Carol and Kris have some plan involving the prophecy that ultimately betrays Susie, Ralsei and us, requires those 3 as pawns and advances Carol's need to preserve the past somehow, probably to get Dess back. Dr. Gaster created Deltarune out of another world and controls it like The Truman Show to keep a straight narrative, and will meet his demise by the game's end when he falls into his creation, or as Gerson puts it, the story swallowing up the author.
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>>581155220
my wife (who i adore and cherish)
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i thought i was onto something. any other music nerds want to take a look
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>>581155331
They sweat microplastics yum
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>>581155220
you can't fake me out again, Swatchling...
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carol
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>>581155302
It's true. Who could do such a monstrous thing?
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if seth or orange got periods would the blood instead be like, nectar or something?
>>581155387
yes sir
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>>581155220
>cause of the screaming
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>>581155468
You can't say we know the answers already and then just make up 75% of the post
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>>581155420
>diapertranny
I'm not trans tho
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dude image friend is trying to red herring susie with the white pen of hope from the trailer
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>>581155505
>cruel and hard
me when i get my hands on fave and theres no around to help them
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>>581155736
you spam about transei alongside your diapershit posts come on
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>>581155468
>we already roughly know the shape of Deltarune's answers
>immediately goes into long spiel about his personal head canon that has little backing in game
This is a bit right?
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Chapter 5 is The Last Jedi moment
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>>581155505
>gay and warlike
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>>581155748
I can't believe that evil, wicked dogman set the white pen of hope up for NOTHING
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I wish people would just accept the Deltarune ending will not make everyone happy and leave it at that. It will not be perfect, it will not solve the problems, it will not be some travesty, it will just be good and nice.
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Right before the Roaring Susie is going to fuse with a darkner and Ralsei will become the avatar of the angel's will. Those dialog choices you thought didn't matter? Told Ralsei you wanted a happy ending with him? Looks like you're on the Law route now buddy. Hope you like being locked into the chaos route if you stole Asriel's $5 and hung out with Susie.
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>>581155806
Yeah but I'm not trans tho
>diapershit
I've never posted about messing either (gwoss)
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>>581155869
It really was
It absolutely destroyed everything the game was building towards so far
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>>581155883
what do you mean the new chapter isn't out yet
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Deltarune is spiritually a shonen manga because just look at what happens every time a shonen manga of recent years reaches its ending
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>>581155869
>>581156020
How tho?
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If the ending is going to be so horrible and Chapter 5 destroyed everything then why are we here man
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>>581155943
We already know the game doesnt track those choices in your save file
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i can't do it....game....bad.....
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>>581155105
Worst Catti I just drew for >>581151190
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>>581156058
oh wait FUC
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Deltarune never asks you to solve or care about its “mystery”, therefore it isn’t a mystery.
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>>581156185
I already wasted eight years on this shit so I might as well see how badly he cocks it all up
Its a very similar situation to Homestuck
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>>581155618
i hope we get to hear him scream for real eventually
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>>581156185
Possible reasons include:
>Vain hope the cynicism is wrong.
>"Sunk cost fallacy" / "watching a trainwreck"
>Fanart/greens of fave
>Perspective on how we got here?
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>>581156312
* ... what do ya reckon that Knight fellow is, anyhoo...?
* I don't... really know, I guess...
* Last night, in the Light World... I saw them.
* Was too dark to see much, but guess they're a Lightner.
* Who they actually are, I have no idea.
* I... can't think of anyone as messed up as them.
* Making fountains... kidnapping people.. like...
* Why do ya reckon they're doin' it?
* ... Huh? I... I dunno. Maybe they just...
* I mean, maybe... they just wanna see everything burn.
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>>581156185
Ignore the whiners. They’ve never had faith in anything, why do you think they’re so miserable?
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>>581156312
Yes it does
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last train left the station a long time ago
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>>581156496
I mean I don't agree with them but I'm fine with them being disappointed or whatever. I am just tired of trying to be convinced Deltarune is bad actually
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>>581155594
sap
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I don't think Deltarune at the moment or the majority of Chapter 5 was bad
I'm just worried that it's GOING to be bad
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>>581156496
Why are chapter 5 fags like this?
I've been an obsessive Undertale freak since 2015 and I'm sure that goes for most people who post here
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>>581156440
I don’t think wondering what the villain is planning makes a story a mystery. That would make EVERY story a mystery.
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>>581156513
meant to reply to >>581156185 oopsies
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>>581156065
MHA ending was good.
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>>581156312
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>>581156695
I've also been a freak for Undertale, since the demo in 2013. I fucking love Chapter 5 and I'm not really sure why the hatred is so ravenous by a selective few, I mean I get it was a divergence but I didn't mind because so was Chapter 3 and it was great. I'm just here for the ride man
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fave is a fucking dumbass and buying a switch 2 after they raised the prices on it
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>>581156695
it's incredibly hard to take the whining seriously when 90% of the time it's born from people tricking themselves into thinking they know what everything means and what's going to happen
the biggest complaints are just that suselle hurt feelings or that the flowers weren't fuzzy enough
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>Deltarune is BAD because of [shit that hasn’t happened]
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>>581156312
Nah we are actively asked who the knight is and we're given some clues and evidence. Notably when thinking of how to get the codes, Susie mentions:
>someone who goes to church
>knows the mayor
>has something to do with the cops

That's Rudy, Carol, or possibly Dess if you're a truther (one of the codes is in her fucking guitar anyway). Unless Susie is just wrong and this question is unsolvable lmao
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>>581156725
In most stories it's usually pretty obvious what the antagonist is doing by the half around the half way mark. If not why in particular, at least what the fuck they want to do. No one can even say what the Knight is even actually trying to do with certainty right now much less why or who that is, and the game asks you this as well
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>>581156890
New content means their built up headcanons got smashed a bit which means BAD CHAPTER
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The problem with long-running stories is they get popular enough for people to trick themselves into formulating a fanmade ending in their heads and then getting pissed when that ending isn't the real one.
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>>581156918
Not caring for seven new character who we will never see again sucking up all the time and Toby's shipping becoming a pretty big part of the story are good complaints
Imagine if the entire chapter had been Kralsie focused
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>>581156918
The forced Suselle scenes were kind of ass though, and so was every other word out of Susie's mouth being about Noelle even when she wasn't there
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>>581157210
Why is it always about fucking shipping with you people? Is a 5 minute cutscene you can hold C through in an 8 hour chapter that bad to you niggas?????
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>>581157168
That's why I'm glad that I prefer when a story surprises me.
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>>581156921
Deltarune's problem is that shit doesn't happen at all and when Undyne and Asgore get kidnapped it doesn't matter.
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>>581157210
it'd be warranted if you got that scene after warming Kris up to Ralsei (guess what there's a Kralsei scene in chapter 5 anyways lolol), Suselle already had set up too. and wow, you played the rest of the game already did ya?
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>>581155653
They're the most Occam's razor friendly deductions. Carol has been foreshadowed throughout the game, is repeatedly implied throughout chapter 4 to be up to something, implied to be the voice on the phone with Kris giving them instructions, and there is some connection between the holiday manor's basement and the shelter given they share a specific rumbly sound signature. Kris and the knight are shown to work together. Susie is shown to be kept in the dark on purpose in chapter 4 as Kris tries to keep her away from making progress on the shelter. Ralsei has a scene in chapter 5 where he shakily discusses having faith in Kris despite them doing things he doesn't agree with, and they discuss this while Susie is away. Ralsei abuses the POV to discuss things with Kris away from us in previous chapters. Chapter 3 touches heavily on the concept of a modified world in both main and hidden sections, a game being turned into a linear one like DR is a key point of the sword route and there's that Shuttah dialogue, and Nowhere. Gaster is almost certainly the voice running the experiment that the game exists for. Undertale says he died by falling into his creation, Deltarune has that metaphor from Gerson about the author of a story based on the prophecy being consumed by his creation.
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>>581157384
They always act like the Suselle cutscene is half the chapter I'm not sure why. Even the Noelle's house bit was longer
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>>581157465
People question where Undyne is and Asgore just got kidnapped, of course no one fucking questions it it literally JUST HAPPENED!
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>>581157384
Susie is CONSTANTLY talking about Noelle the whole chapter. Its the main driving thing behind her as a character now
She even refuses to do a few S-actions because Noelle might not like it
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Toby looks at Deltarune as containing mysteries (plural). Calling it a mystery game might be a stretch, but this is straight from the creator's mouth.
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Imagine if, instead of insisting that he's cute (and being right), Ralsei adorably denied that he was cute
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>>581157602
I can’t even remember the moments you’re talking about. I think you guys are just negatively obsessed about Suselle.
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>>581157639
Kind of mad he kowtowed the loudest most annoying people with this. They're not gonna be happy no matter what he does
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>>581157639
Dang. Why didn't someone tell Toby he wasn't supposed to care about the games narrative and mysteries? I thought we all already had it figured out by now fr fr like he intended
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>>581157384
>>581157549
>Susie preparing for her date
>Susie not shutting up about Noelle in Dark World
>Susie saying she's gonna drag Noelle into the Dark World business
It's all over the chapter.
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>>581157549
>conjecture of a fool
Weight? Sure you have 10 hours idling in the holiday's mansion but how much progression is happening in those 10 hours. Compared to the lake scene which tried to sell that the status quo has changed in some aspect of the story. This concept of weight is also why people are hyped for WR despite just mostly being a cutscene, because it does a lot despite the little time (either leaving a stupid town or building up the atmosphere for it).
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>>581157783
there was a ritual post about a guy promising vengeance if Suselle happened, this has been building for yeeeaaars
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>>581156675
i think it'll be good because i trust toby to explore the holidays in 6
a deep delving into the family should be impossible to fuck up. snow is aesthetic as hell and so is christmas, so the dark world could be pretty and tragic and bittersweet. plus there's all the little branching mysteries that stem from the holidays
then 7a is the roaring and defying fate and yadda yadda and 7b is the yummy gaster friend eram meta stuff
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Watching people slowly have to accept that ERAM is a separate character has been funny
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>>581155105
Previous thread motivated me to draw TV creatures
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>>581157783
Read the text next time you play it
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>>581157783
NTA and I don't remember ever encountering the S-Action thing but half the time in the Flower Kingdom she's all like
>would Noelle like this?
>would Noelle like that?
>I wonder which of these Noelle would like best
>we should save this for Noelle
>if only Noelle was here to see this
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>>581156261
I'm in love, thank you.
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>>581157580
They question but nothing changed. NPCs just say their dumb jokey lines and life goes on. It doesn't matter.
>JUST HAPPENED
Watch how nobody will care that he is gone either.
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>>581157684
>I-I'm not cute! Stop calling me cute, Flowery!! I'M NOT CUTE!!!
--Ralsei, as cute as he's ever been
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>>581157894
CUTE CUTE CUTE CUTE CUTE CUTE CUTE!!!!!!!!! CUUUUUUUUUUUUTE
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>>581157826
>the start of the chapter for 5-10 minutes
>obviously not true except tiny moments in the chapter
>the last 5 minutes of the chapter
Wow! That’s so much in 8 hours!
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>>581157684
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>>581157549
Noelle's house is great because a lot more is happening than dumb teen dating drama
Sadly none of it was expanded upon in chapter 5 besides Suselle
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If I want to buy paint for a Deltarune cosplay and my only options are Hobby Lobby and Michael's, which one should I go to?
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>>581158026
>moving goalpost
I rest my case.
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>>581157891
ERAM is the spookypasta entity I'm most excited for now, something about them really hit on this reread.
>>581157986
It's been like, 2 days. You'd be slightly concerned if they were your friend but they're all adults and can just leave unannounced. You probably wouldn't do anything irl either
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Post more fat bitches to save this general.
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>>581157986
>They question but nothing changed. NPCs just say their dumb jokey lines and life goes on. It doesn't matter.
Gee… it’s… almost like…
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>>581158026
So Suselle is actually a very small part of the game and not very important?
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>>581158108
What is the paint for? What material?
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>>581158256
I'm going to paint a cardboard Tenna head.
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>>581158078
The dumb teen drama is still happening. It's almost as if Deltarune is a teen flick.
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>>581158229
...the light world is nothing but gagshit for the audience to laugh at
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>>581158204
>bitches
That's not a dog
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>>581158175
That’s not what moving goalposts is, that’s pointing out how your complaints are nitpicks.
>>581158235
Yeah? I never said it was important, just that you guys are negatively obsessive over it. Something being on screen split over 10 minutes in an 8 hour run time and seething over it constantly is negative obsession.
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>>581158078
That was the single most teen drama section of the entire fucking game so far dude. What are you talking about.
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>>581158078
Yeah I'm not claiming Chapter 5 was a divergence. I just think people need to wait til Chapter 6. I feel like if we got Chapter 3 without 4 people would be more mad, and they kind of were at first but now they like it lol. A lot of people here seem to assume that every chapter is like 5 from here out and i think that's bizarre
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>>581157684
This would just be a lame cliche that is already present in a trillion other stories, no thank you.
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>>581158187
By the time the roaring starts it will be too late for anyone to care.
The point is Deltarune has no stakes.
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>>581157891
I was a big FRIEND=ERAM truther until the Pink dialogue patch and in a way I was indirectly right because the evil masterminding Tail of Hell character everyone assumed was FRIEND is probably just ERAM
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>>581158393
Are you trolling or do you have to re-learn how to breathe every day?
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>>581158451
*gets ready to serenade you with your missing sisters guitar*
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>>581158529
>By the time the roaring starts it will be too late for anyone to care.
You guys were making some okay points at times but this makes zero sense
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>>581158451
Did you miss the part where we controlled the soul outside of Kris's body because you were too busy jilling to the implied furry yuri?
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>>581158026
>obviously not true except tiny moments in the chapter
My brother in Christ, Susie brings her up constantly in the first section of the dark world. After Asgore kicks your ass out the first time she calms down for a while, but Susie absolutely smacks you over the head with her excitement over Noelle becoming her girlfriend.

I mostly forgot about that shit by the time the sidescrolling started but it does give an annoying start to the chapter.
The lake scene is also kinda cringe but I don't expect good romance writing from Toby.
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>>581158419
>Why are you nitpicking about a speck of shit in your food?
>Okay, it's not just a speck, it's a whole shit but so what?
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>>581158460
>People need to be calm and have sense
Fucking idiot. Get angry over things you made up in your head, NOW!
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>>581158571
>Catti walks in wearing her Suicidegirls socks
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Suselle raped you
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>>581158314
If it's cardboard then you shouldn't have any trouble finding paint at either of those places, acrylic paint is what you want and just as long as it's not obscenely cheap you should be fine
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>>581158460
>it will all be fixed in chapter 6 (the shortest chapter yet that is only about one thing
ok toby
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>>581158667
you mean the part that takes place during said yuri the majority of the time you're in control to the point that they have a power goes out sitcom scene involving you
the only other scenes are some Asgore dialogue and Kris piano, most of it has Noelle and Susie talking throughout it
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Suselle and Yuri raped /utg/
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>>581158807
>>581158961
Everyone who had to slop through chapter 5...
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>>581158419
Suselle is the plot now
Chapter 5 ended on a big gooey Suselle moment
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>>581158529
The stakes are the roaring you already mentioned what's even the point of this. People don't start up manhunts for single adults in an afternoon
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I am going to forcibly cum in everyone in this thread
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Dudes have genuinely spent 11 years getting angry at lesbians in a Toby Fox game
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>>581157684
i'm gonna agree with >>581158504 part of ralsei's appeal for me is that he knows he's adorable and it's the literal one thing he wants to brag about/show off
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Okay I read the argument.
>What I agree with:
-The actions in the dark world aren't impacting the town enough
-Suselle doesn't add a lot to the story
-The Roaring and overall mysteries are taking a bit too long to setup
>What I don't agree with
-It's too late to address anything
-Nothing will ever matter and it's too late to care
-Flowers and their story don't have any further impact on the story at all
Pretty much.
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>>581158882
Let me guess

Noelle hater
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>>581159128
WHETHER 11 HOURS OR 11 YEARS
BUTTHURT WILL BE WAITING
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I dont have a problem with yuri
I have a problem with monster teen yuri written by a grown man
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>>581159128
They should be jacking off instead, but instead they're too busy getting cummed in by >>581159084
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>>581159084
Futaelle...
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>>581158187
>Can leave unannounced
Maybe Asgore but Undyne wouldn't have that shit fly, being a police chief and all. The two days thing also can work for Asgore (maybe he's as impactful as Dess) but runs afoul with Undyne. She's not a joe schmo, she's the head of the police and while it's possible Undyne planned out things days in advance, good shot people setting up the event would have noticed her not showing up. Now this isn't inherently bad to not reference with context, Diapsguy shouldn't mention confidential stuff up to 1-2 retarded teenagers, but could be a concern if the chief of police is so ineffectual a position no one notices (especially given Undyne's personality, I'd be shocked if she didn't set herself up to personally patrol the festival).
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>>581159237
MonsterTeen doesn't have any yuri though
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>>581159128
They knew the game was gonna have lesbians and still throw a melty when it does happen
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>>581159237
What yuri do you like
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So did we get nothing for this anniversary
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>>581159237
This. Toby's romance writing sucks donkey dick.
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>>581159189
I agree with everything you said.
The doomerism is just fucking annoying to have to sift through in every single thread.
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>>581159201
no?
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>>581159306
We're repeatedly told that the police doesn't actually do anything, though. There's no crime in Hometown and Carol apparently does everything.
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>>581159357
We got napstablook merch
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mythical reccomendation tab pull
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>>581159237
i actually love yuri, suselle is just... fucking boring. boring, does a disservice to both characters, is outclassed by other pairings (and i know shipping isn't a competition but why would i care about uwu lesbians when there's weird route kriselle and krusie)
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>>581159306
>but could be a concern if the chief of police is so ineffectual a position no one notices
This is literally said in game. Alphys straight up asks what's even the point of the police when Carol seems to deal with everything herself.
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>>581159335
Human/monster adult yuri written by women
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Toby is a lesbian fetishist who ignores gay men and makes AGP stereotypes when he writes trans people. Why is he seen as good at queer representation?
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>>581159220
You ain't kiddin', everyone with a fully developed frontal lobe hated the "annyversasy".
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>>581159592
Cuz niggas are desperate
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>>581159084
*heavy breathing*
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>Nobody cares about King
>Lancerposting at all-time lows
>Rouxls forgotten
>Queen completely overshadowed
>Sweet Cap'n Cakes
>Swatch never took off
>No tears shed for Ramb
>Gerson quickly shelved
>Jackenstein memoryholed
>Titan derided as generic
>Flowers bad
Why do you guys have contempt for 99% of the cast
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>>581159220
damn and he really did nothing for the 11th anniversary
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>>581159387
I like Chapter 5 but a lot of the defensiveness doesn't really refute the points being made very well... I get the urge to be defensive, a lot of it is kind of just "I didn't mind this as much as you did" though. But the critics get so wrapped in their own head they think "Well Chapter 6 will never fix this, Toby dropped the ball" and now I wonder if they're going to go sour grapes and act like whatever Chapter 6 IS going to give us is bad so they can feel right. Idk. I'm kinda done with this now but that's my feel. Also I'm sure some of them are in bad faith over Suselle yadda yadda, that's always a point of contention. I like it and I'm fine with it but some people HAAATE it. Some because they hate romance or think Toby writes bad romance, some because idk yuri makes them mad, whatever.
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Toby put his entire pussy into the 10th anniversary and then his "fans" whine when he doesn't give them something bigger for the 11th, but then also complain that Deltarune has taken too long and is ruined.
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Toby's comments about "taking a rest" are proof for my schizo suspicions that we're about to go through the longest newsletter drought yet as Toby prepares to reveal the answers to all the mysteries of the game

Might be too early of a truthbloom to be acceptable though...
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Carol has a premature ejaculation fetish.
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>>581159081
Hometown residents are retards who won't even know fantastical equivalent of a nuke hit them. Having all authority figures be incompetent and taken out of the picture while teens are the only ones who can save the world is garbage level writing.
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>>581159486
It reduces both of them to being just each others gushing blushing girlfriends
Its like dumping ice water on the pacing, narrative, and characterization
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>>581159710
suselle caused all of this btw
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it feels like people think those who didn't enjoy chapter 5 wanted it to be bad. i hated 5 and i still have a lot of hope for 6/7/7b, to be real i feel like there's no way toby could possibly drop the ball
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APOLOGIES
FOR
THE
DELAY.

THERE'S
A
STRAY CAT
IN THE
SERVER
ROOM.

THE
NEWSLETTER
SHALL BE
READY
IN
APPROXIMATELY
FIVE
HOURS.

YOUR
PATIENCE
IS
APPRECIATED
MY DELTARUNE.

PLEASE.

HOLD
ON
A LITTLE
LONGER.
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>>581159725
>now I wonder if they're going to go sour grapes and act like whatever Chapter 6 IS going to give us is bad so they can feel right
The answer is yes, they will, because this shit also happened with chapters 3-4. It happens with EVERYTHING now. They want drama stimmies no matter how made up it is. After Deltarune finishes, for 3 months you're going to see "NOW THAT THE DUST HAS SETTLED, WE CAN ALL AGREE DELTARUNE'S ENDING OBJECTIVELY SUCKED ASS" posts.
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Kralsei is the male version of suselle but I don’t think anyone’s ready for that conversation (both ships are ass)
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>>581159592
Toby writes the alpha omega uke seme stereotypes that furry shippers and idiot teenagers are drawn to like flies on shit
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>>581159724
ackshually that line was about Deltarune not Undertale
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>>581159486
This. There are good yuri pairings out there, some I've even liked, but Suselle isn't one of them, and it only gets a pass in some circles BECAUSE it's yuri and most of the diehard yurifags (speaking as someone who has liked it before but doesn't religiously consume it like them) will eat anything up so long as it contains girls flriting with each other, blushing and having freckles.
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>>581159789
>Why does the game empower it's main cast to deal with problems instead of the side characters
a narrative riddle for the ages i gotta say
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>>581159964
3 and 4 were good. What are you talking about?
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>>581159789
>Having all authority figures be incompetent and taken out of the picture while teens are the only ones who can save the world is garbage level writing.
This is genuinely like, 50-60% of the stories ever made. ATLA half qualifies as this.
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>>581159780
Only with Kris tho
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>>581159725
They're going to call chapter 6 shit no matter what. They were gonna call chapter 5 shit no matter what. They called 3+4 shit, probably called 2 shit. It's not really worth every thread getting flooded with arguments over whether or not Deltarune is actually worth playing.
Yet people insist.
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Feels kind of obvious he's doing a pattern thing, 3 and 5 are more self contained and 4 and 6 are more lore-focused. A big part of Deltarune is Toby wanting to explore specific ideas and he tries to weave them into the narrative in a way that feels unsatisfying to some people. On their own Tenna and Flowery have really cool arcs but they bother people because both of them aren't setting up pieces of a puzzle as well as something like Dess or Carol or Noelle or FRIEND. Plus the agitation from waiting so long is getting to people and people are getting less and less patient with short form video eroding attention spans
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>>581159894
The ball has already been dropped
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>>581159965
Kralsei is very chapter 2 era coded. You almost see no new Kralsei art in chapter 5, and even in chapters 3-4 it was falling off to Kriselle/Krusie

I have absolutely no clue why this is by the way, I thought it was alright as a ship
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>>581160078
stop speedreading
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>>581159710
>Nobody cares about King
chapter 1 boss that was cool for ten seconds, now is a fat and lives in a hamster cage. does nothing
>Lancerposting at all-time lows
lancer does nothing
>Rouxls forgotten
was he even in 4? i can't remember
>Queen completely overshadowed
she does nothing
>Sweet Cap'n Cakes
flowers version 1
>Swatch never took off
i mean, there was nothing to him
>No tears shed for Ramb
ramb existed for 5 seconds and served no narrative purpose beyond giving us gifts and telling us about the sword route
>Gerson quickly shelved
well gerson is fucking dead you moron
>Jackenstein memoryholed
barely a character
>Titan derided as generic
literally not a character, a force of nature
>Flowers bad
yeah they fucking suck beyond flowery who's a 6/10 at best

deltarune's a little weird in that most characters only matter in the chapter they first appear in. then, if you bring them to castletown, they become goofy goobers that say silly things. it's not like i hate queen, tenna, any of them, it's just that they functionally stop being real characters when the spotlight is off of them. and they generally don't interest me enough to create endless headcanons about because what makes them interesting was tied into their place in the plot
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Suselle's worst sin is being frankly boring
I think people get too angry about it
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>>581160018
>flriting
>minor spelling mistake because I naturally type fast
If someone would please help me set up my giant suicide gun with built-in timer...
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carolllllllll *pukes*
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>>581160196
I still get kralsei on my timeline
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>>581160031
Narrative bending over backwards for main characters to shine is bad writing, yes. You will understand this when you engage with other media.
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>>581160078
People doomposted over chapter 3 endlessly and eventually started shitting on chapter 4.
Yes, they were good. People still bitched, because internet randoms are fucking retarded. The average internet denizen is as stupid as your most idiotic coworker.
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>>581159965
it's not. ralsei's character isn't harmed by his crush on kris -- to the contrary, kris is fostering ralsei's development. we actually see their relationship develop on screen, too
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NAPSTABLOOK *SKATS ALL OVER THE WALLS*
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>>581160345
>Stories focusing on their main characters is bad
This might be the most retarded post I have ever read on this site. Congratulations.
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I liked Blue. He was pretty cool.
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>>581160384
kris is GROOMING ralsei
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>>581158807
Imagine Susie and Noelle literally raping (you) together. That would be so hot



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