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Imagine if a Dark World formed in a bathroom and someone walked in and was like>Oh, come on! I just want to pee...
These threads are flying!!! Fun!
>dice OPwhich darkners/lightners would fujo get along with? (not counting pippins)
>>581155106Pizzapants…
*screams like a sissy*
SEX
>>581155162Toby hates Catti
She's your Dad's best friend
the best thing about dice is they dont sweat so you just bury your face in their plastic pits
>>581154984Hooman!
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>>581155181Noelle and Alphys for sure
>>581152001>Darkner faveCouldn't a desire of a nursing handjob when entering/making the darkworld enable fave to lactate? They are influenced by their "creator" after all. Feels like this is the "drug" equivalent option just you need to be very needy entering/creating it.>Possible for a darkner to get pregnantDo darkners have bodily functions? If there's worlds where they can get hungry/thirsty, need to relieve themselves in the dark-world, etc. Then I'd imagine they could get pregnant? They'd already be extremely close to lightner biology so I don't see a reason why it couldn't make the last hop?>What would happen to the babyMaybe this is what Ralsei is or something. It'd likely exist as a sentience of both light and dark. Having your essence and dreams while influenced by the darkners' physical form? Imagine being this half-n-half probably leads to either a plantner situation where light-world its just cum on an object you can't wash off, or nears Roaring Knight territory where the 'lightner essence' keeps the dark-world form alive just enough to exist in both, even if preferable in the dark world. Perhaps because it isn't a FRIEND DESS PHANTASM UMBRAL PINK BOREALIS Thing, it won't be of a tortured existence.
diapertranny is like sans and papyrus in that one day he just showed up out of nowhere and asserted himself like he was always there
>>581155195More like Pissapants lol
Regarding mysteries we already roughly know the shape of Deltarune's answers anyways despite pretending otherwise. Carol and Kris have some plan involving the prophecy that ultimately betrays Susie, Ralsei and us, requires those 3 as pawns and advances Carol's need to preserve the past somehow, probably to get Dess back. Dr. Gaster created Deltarune out of another world and controls it like The Truman Show to keep a straight narrative, and will meet his demise by the game's end when he falls into his creation, or as Gerson puts it, the story swallowing up the author.
>>581155220my wife (who i adore and cherish)
i thought i was onto something. any other music nerds want to take a look
>>581155331They sweat microplastics yum
>>581155220you can't fake me out again, Swatchling...
carol
>>581155302It's true. Who could do such a monstrous thing?
if seth or orange got periods would the blood instead be like, nectar or something?>>581155387yes sir
>>581155220>cause of the screaming
>>581155468You can't say we know the answers already and then just make up 75% of the post
>>581155420>diapertrannyI'm not trans tho
dude image friend is trying to red herring susie with the white pen of hope from the trailer
>>581155505>cruel and hardme when i get my hands on fave and theres no around to help them
>>581155736you spam about transei alongside your diapershit posts come on
>>581155468>we already roughly know the shape of Deltarune's answers>immediately goes into long spiel about his personal head canon that has little backing in game This is a bit right?
Chapter 5 is The Last Jedi moment
>>581155505>gay and warlike
>>581155748I can't believe that evil, wicked dogman set the white pen of hope up for NOTHING
I wish people would just accept the Deltarune ending will not make everyone happy and leave it at that. It will not be perfect, it will not solve the problems, it will not be some travesty, it will just be good and nice.
Right before the Roaring Susie is going to fuse with a darkner and Ralsei will become the avatar of the angel's will. Those dialog choices you thought didn't matter? Told Ralsei you wanted a happy ending with him? Looks like you're on the Law route now buddy. Hope you like being locked into the chaos route if you stole Asriel's $5 and hung out with Susie.
>>581155806Yeah but I'm not trans tho>diapershit I've never posted about messing either (gwoss)
>>581155869It really wasIt absolutely destroyed everything the game was building towards so far
>>581155883what do you mean the new chapter isn't out yet
Deltarune is spiritually a shonen manga because just look at what happens every time a shonen manga of recent years reaches its ending
>>581155869>>581156020How tho?
If the ending is going to be so horrible and Chapter 5 destroyed everything then why are we here man
>>581155943We already know the game doesnt track those choices in your save file
i can't do it....game....bad.....
>>581155105Worst Catti I just drew for >>581151190
>>581156058oh wait FUC
Deltarune never asks you to solve or care about its “mystery”, therefore it isn’t a mystery.
>>581156185I already wasted eight years on this shit so I might as well see how badly he cocks it all upIts a very similar situation to Homestuck
>>581155618i hope we get to hear him scream for real eventually
>>581156185Possible reasons include:>Vain hope the cynicism is wrong.>"Sunk cost fallacy" / "watching a trainwreck">Fanart/greens of fave>Perspective on how we got here?
>>581156312* ... what do ya reckon that Knight fellow is, anyhoo...?* I don't... really know, I guess...* Last night, in the Light World... I saw them.* Was too dark to see much, but guess they're a Lightner.* Who they actually are, I have no idea.* I... can't think of anyone as messed up as them.* Making fountains... kidnapping people.. like...* Why do ya reckon they're doin' it?* ... Huh? I... I dunno. Maybe they just...* I mean, maybe... they just wanna see everything burn.
>>581156185Ignore the whiners. They’ve never had faith in anything, why do you think they’re so miserable?
>>581156312Yes it does
last train left the station a long time ago
>>581156496I mean I don't agree with them but I'm fine with them being disappointed or whatever. I am just tired of trying to be convinced Deltarune is bad actually
>>581155594sap
I don't think Deltarune at the moment or the majority of Chapter 5 was badI'm just worried that it's GOING to be bad
>>581156496Why are chapter 5 fags like this?I've been an obsessive Undertale freak since 2015 and I'm sure that goes for most people who post here
>>581156440I don’t think wondering what the villain is planning makes a story a mystery. That would make EVERY story a mystery.
>>581156513meant to reply to >>581156185 oopsies
>>581156065MHA ending was good.
>>581156312
>>581156695I've also been a freak for Undertale, since the demo in 2013. I fucking love Chapter 5 and I'm not really sure why the hatred is so ravenous by a selective few, I mean I get it was a divergence but I didn't mind because so was Chapter 3 and it was great. I'm just here for the ride man
fave is a fucking dumbass and buying a switch 2 after they raised the prices on it
>>581156695it's incredibly hard to take the whining seriously when 90% of the time it's born from people tricking themselves into thinking they know what everything means and what's going to happenthe biggest complaints are just that suselle hurt feelings or that the flowers weren't fuzzy enough
>Deltarune is BAD because of [shit that hasn’t happened]
>>581156312Nah we are actively asked who the knight is and we're given some clues and evidence. Notably when thinking of how to get the codes, Susie mentions:>someone who goes to church>knows the mayor>has something to do with the copsThat's Rudy, Carol, or possibly Dess if you're a truther (one of the codes is in her fucking guitar anyway). Unless Susie is just wrong and this question is unsolvable lmao
>>581156725In most stories it's usually pretty obvious what the antagonist is doing by the half around the half way mark. If not why in particular, at least what the fuck they want to do. No one can even say what the Knight is even actually trying to do with certainty right now much less why or who that is, and the game asks you this as well
>>581156890New content means their built up headcanons got smashed a bit which means BAD CHAPTER
The problem with long-running stories is they get popular enough for people to trick themselves into formulating a fanmade ending in their heads and then getting pissed when that ending isn't the real one.
>>581156918Not caring for seven new character who we will never see again sucking up all the time and Toby's shipping becoming a pretty big part of the story are good complaintsImagine if the entire chapter had been Kralsie focused
>>581156918The forced Suselle scenes were kind of ass though, and so was every other word out of Susie's mouth being about Noelle even when she wasn't there
>>581157210Why is it always about fucking shipping with you people? Is a 5 minute cutscene you can hold C through in an 8 hour chapter that bad to you niggas?????
>>581157168That's why I'm glad that I prefer when a story surprises me.
>>581156921Deltarune's problem is that shit doesn't happen at all and when Undyne and Asgore get kidnapped it doesn't matter.
>>581157210it'd be warranted if you got that scene after warming Kris up to Ralsei (guess what there's a Kralsei scene in chapter 5 anyways lolol), Suselle already had set up too. and wow, you played the rest of the game already did ya?
>>581155653They're the most Occam's razor friendly deductions. Carol has been foreshadowed throughout the game, is repeatedly implied throughout chapter 4 to be up to something, implied to be the voice on the phone with Kris giving them instructions, and there is some connection between the holiday manor's basement and the shelter given they share a specific rumbly sound signature. Kris and the knight are shown to work together. Susie is shown to be kept in the dark on purpose in chapter 4 as Kris tries to keep her away from making progress on the shelter. Ralsei has a scene in chapter 5 where he shakily discusses having faith in Kris despite them doing things he doesn't agree with, and they discuss this while Susie is away. Ralsei abuses the POV to discuss things with Kris away from us in previous chapters. Chapter 3 touches heavily on the concept of a modified world in both main and hidden sections, a game being turned into a linear one like DR is a key point of the sword route and there's that Shuttah dialogue, and Nowhere. Gaster is almost certainly the voice running the experiment that the game exists for. Undertale says he died by falling into his creation, Deltarune has that metaphor from Gerson about the author of a story based on the prophecy being consumed by his creation.
>>581157384They always act like the Suselle cutscene is half the chapter I'm not sure why. Even the Noelle's house bit was longer
>>581157465People question where Undyne is and Asgore just got kidnapped, of course no one fucking questions it it literally JUST HAPPENED!
>>581157384Susie is CONSTANTLY talking about Noelle the whole chapter. Its the main driving thing behind her as a character nowShe even refuses to do a few S-actions because Noelle might not like it
Toby looks at Deltarune as containing mysteries (plural). Calling it a mystery game might be a stretch, but this is straight from the creator's mouth.
Imagine if, instead of insisting that he's cute (and being right), Ralsei adorably denied that he was cute
>>581157602I can’t even remember the moments you’re talking about. I think you guys are just negatively obsessed about Suselle.
>>581157639Kind of mad he kowtowed the loudest most annoying people with this. They're not gonna be happy no matter what he does
>>581157639Dang. Why didn't someone tell Toby he wasn't supposed to care about the games narrative and mysteries? I thought we all already had it figured out by now fr fr like he intended
>>581157384>>581157549>Susie preparing for her date>Susie not shutting up about Noelle in Dark World>Susie saying she's gonna drag Noelle into the Dark World businessIt's all over the chapter.
>>581157549>conjecture of a foolWeight? Sure you have 10 hours idling in the holiday's mansion but how much progression is happening in those 10 hours. Compared to the lake scene which tried to sell that the status quo has changed in some aspect of the story. This concept of weight is also why people are hyped for WR despite just mostly being a cutscene, because it does a lot despite the little time (either leaving a stupid town or building up the atmosphere for it).
>>581157783there was a ritual post about a guy promising vengeance if Suselle happened, this has been building for yeeeaaars
>>581156675i think it'll be good because i trust toby to explore the holidays in 6 a deep delving into the family should be impossible to fuck up. snow is aesthetic as hell and so is christmas, so the dark world could be pretty and tragic and bittersweet. plus there's all the little branching mysteries that stem from the holidays then 7a is the roaring and defying fate and yadda yadda and 7b is the yummy gaster friend eram meta stuff
Watching people slowly have to accept that ERAM is a separate character has been funny
>>581155105Previous thread motivated me to draw TV creatures
>>581157783Read the text next time you play it
>>581157783NTA and I don't remember ever encountering the S-Action thing but half the time in the Flower Kingdom she's all like>would Noelle like this?>would Noelle like that?>I wonder which of these Noelle would like best>we should save this for Noelle>if only Noelle was here to see this
>>581156261I'm in love, thank you.
>>581157580They question but nothing changed. NPCs just say their dumb jokey lines and life goes on. It doesn't matter.>JUST HAPPENEDWatch how nobody will care that he is gone either.
>>581157684>I-I'm not cute! Stop calling me cute, Flowery!! I'M NOT CUTE!!!--Ralsei, as cute as he's ever been
>>581157894CUTE CUTE CUTE CUTE CUTE CUTE CUTE!!!!!!!!! CUUUUUUUUUUUUTE
>>581157826>the start of the chapter for 5-10 minutes>obviously not true except tiny moments in the chapter>the last 5 minutes of the chapterWow! That’s so much in 8 hours!
>>581157684
>>581157549Noelle's house is great because a lot more is happening than dumb teen dating dramaSadly none of it was expanded upon in chapter 5 besides Suselle
If I want to buy paint for a Deltarune cosplay and my only options are Hobby Lobby and Michael's, which one should I go to?
>>581158026>moving goalpostI rest my case.
>>581157891ERAM is the spookypasta entity I'm most excited for now, something about them really hit on this reread.>>581157986It's been like, 2 days. You'd be slightly concerned if they were your friend but they're all adults and can just leave unannounced. You probably wouldn't do anything irl either
Post more fat bitches to save this general.
>>581157986>They question but nothing changed. NPCs just say their dumb jokey lines and life goes on. It doesn't matter.Gee… it’s… almost like…
>>581158026So Suselle is actually a very small part of the game and not very important?
>>581158108What is the paint for? What material?
>>581158256I'm going to paint a cardboard Tenna head.
>>581158078The dumb teen drama is still happening. It's almost as if Deltarune is a teen flick.
>>581158229...the light world is nothing but gagshit for the audience to laugh at
>>581158204>bitchesThat's not a dog
>>581158175That’s not what moving goalposts is, that’s pointing out how your complaints are nitpicks.>>581158235Yeah? I never said it was important, just that you guys are negatively obsessive over it. Something being on screen split over 10 minutes in an 8 hour run time and seething over it constantly is negative obsession.
>>581158078That was the single most teen drama section of the entire fucking game so far dude. What are you talking about.
>>581158078Yeah I'm not claiming Chapter 5 was a divergence. I just think people need to wait til Chapter 6. I feel like if we got Chapter 3 without 4 people would be more mad, and they kind of were at first but now they like it lol. A lot of people here seem to assume that every chapter is like 5 from here out and i think that's bizarre
>>581157684This would just be a lame cliche that is already present in a trillion other stories, no thank you.
>>581158187By the time the roaring starts it will be too late for anyone to care.The point is Deltarune has no stakes.
>>581157891I was a big FRIEND=ERAM truther until the Pink dialogue patch and in a way I was indirectly right because the evil masterminding Tail of Hell character everyone assumed was FRIEND is probably just ERAM
>>581158393Are you trolling or do you have to re-learn how to breathe every day?
>>581158451*gets ready to serenade you with your missing sisters guitar*
>>581158529>By the time the roaring starts it will be too late for anyone to care.You guys were making some okay points at times but this makes zero sense
>>581158451Did you miss the part where we controlled the soul outside of Kris's body because you were too busy jilling to the implied furry yuri?
>>581158026>obviously not true except tiny moments in the chapterMy brother in Christ, Susie brings her up constantly in the first section of the dark world. After Asgore kicks your ass out the first time she calms down for a while, but Susie absolutely smacks you over the head with her excitement over Noelle becoming her girlfriend.I mostly forgot about that shit by the time the sidescrolling started but it does give an annoying start to the chapter.The lake scene is also kinda cringe but I don't expect good romance writing from Toby.
>>581158419>Why are you nitpicking about a speck of shit in your food?>Okay, it's not just a speck, it's a whole shit but so what?
>>581158460>People need to be calm and have senseFucking idiot. Get angry over things you made up in your head, NOW!
>>581158571>Catti walks in wearing her Suicidegirls socks
Suselle raped you
>>581158314If it's cardboard then you shouldn't have any trouble finding paint at either of those places, acrylic paint is what you want and just as long as it's not obscenely cheap you should be fine
>>581158460>it will all be fixed in chapter 6 (the shortest chapter yet that is only about one thingok toby
>>581158667you mean the part that takes place during said yuri the majority of the time you're in control to the point that they have a power goes out sitcom scene involving youthe only other scenes are some Asgore dialogue and Kris piano, most of it has Noelle and Susie talking throughout it
Suselle and Yuri raped /utg/
>>581158807>>581158961Everyone who had to slop through chapter 5...
>>581158419Suselle is the plot nowChapter 5 ended on a big gooey Suselle moment
>>581158529The stakes are the roaring you already mentioned what's even the point of this. People don't start up manhunts for single adults in an afternoon
I am going to forcibly cum in everyone in this thread
Dudes have genuinely spent 11 years getting angry at lesbians in a Toby Fox game
>>581157684i'm gonna agree with >>581158504 part of ralsei's appeal for me is that he knows he's adorable and it's the literal one thing he wants to brag about/show off
Okay I read the argument.>What I agree with:-The actions in the dark world aren't impacting the town enough-Suselle doesn't add a lot to the story-The Roaring and overall mysteries are taking a bit too long to setup>What I don't agree with-It's too late to address anything-Nothing will ever matter and it's too late to care-Flowers and their story don't have any further impact on the story at allPretty much.
>>581158882Let me guessNoelle hater
>>581159128WHETHER 11 HOURS OR 11 YEARSBUTTHURT WILL BE WAITING
I dont have a problem with yuri I have a problem with monster teen yuri written by a grown man
>>581159128They should be jacking off instead, but instead they're too busy getting cummed in by >>581159084
>>581159084Futaelle...
>>581158187>Can leave unannouncedMaybe Asgore but Undyne wouldn't have that shit fly, being a police chief and all. The two days thing also can work for Asgore (maybe he's as impactful as Dess) but runs afoul with Undyne. She's not a joe schmo, she's the head of the police and while it's possible Undyne planned out things days in advance, good shot people setting up the event would have noticed her not showing up. Now this isn't inherently bad to not reference with context, Diapsguy shouldn't mention confidential stuff up to 1-2 retarded teenagers, but could be a concern if the chief of police is so ineffectual a position no one notices (especially given Undyne's personality, I'd be shocked if she didn't set herself up to personally patrol the festival).
>>581159237MonsterTeen doesn't have any yuri though
>>581159128They knew the game was gonna have lesbians and still throw a melty when it does happen
>>581159237What yuri do you like
So did we get nothing for this anniversary
>>581159237This. Toby's romance writing sucks donkey dick.
>>581159189I agree with everything you said.The doomerism is just fucking annoying to have to sift through in every single thread.
>>581159201no?
>>581159306We're repeatedly told that the police doesn't actually do anything, though. There's no crime in Hometown and Carol apparently does everything.
>>581159357We got napstablook merch
mythical reccomendation tab pull
>>581159237i actually love yuri, suselle is just... fucking boring. boring, does a disservice to both characters, is outclassed by other pairings (and i know shipping isn't a competition but why would i care about uwu lesbians when there's weird route kriselle and krusie)
>>581159306>but could be a concern if the chief of police is so ineffectual a position no one noticesThis is literally said in game. Alphys straight up asks what's even the point of the police when Carol seems to deal with everything herself.
>>581159335Human/monster adult yuri written by women
Toby is a lesbian fetishist who ignores gay men and makes AGP stereotypes when he writes trans people. Why is he seen as good at queer representation?
>>581159220You ain't kiddin', everyone with a fully developed frontal lobe hated the "annyversasy".
>>581159592Cuz niggas are desperate
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>>581159084*heavy breathing*
>Nobody cares about King>Lancerposting at all-time lows>Rouxls forgotten>Queen completely overshadowed>Sweet Cap'n Cakes>Swatch never took off>No tears shed for Ramb>Gerson quickly shelved>Jackenstein memoryholed>Titan derided as generic>Flowers badWhy do you guys have contempt for 99% of the cast
>>581159220damn and he really did nothing for the 11th anniversary
>>581159387I like Chapter 5 but a lot of the defensiveness doesn't really refute the points being made very well... I get the urge to be defensive, a lot of it is kind of just "I didn't mind this as much as you did" though. But the critics get so wrapped in their own head they think "Well Chapter 6 will never fix this, Toby dropped the ball" and now I wonder if they're going to go sour grapes and act like whatever Chapter 6 IS going to give us is bad so they can feel right. Idk. I'm kinda done with this now but that's my feel. Also I'm sure some of them are in bad faith over Suselle yadda yadda, that's always a point of contention. I like it and I'm fine with it but some people HAAATE it. Some because they hate romance or think Toby writes bad romance, some because idk yuri makes them mad, whatever.
Toby put his entire pussy into the 10th anniversary and then his "fans" whine when he doesn't give them something bigger for the 11th, but then also complain that Deltarune has taken too long and is ruined.
Toby's comments about "taking a rest" are proof for my schizo suspicions that we're about to go through the longest newsletter drought yet as Toby prepares to reveal the answers to all the mysteries of the gameMight be too early of a truthbloom to be acceptable though...
Carol has a premature ejaculation fetish.
>>581159081Hometown residents are retards who won't even know fantastical equivalent of a nuke hit them. Having all authority figures be incompetent and taken out of the picture while teens are the only ones who can save the world is garbage level writing.
>>581159486It reduces both of them to being just each others gushing blushing girlfriends Its like dumping ice water on the pacing, narrative, and characterization
>>581159710suselle caused all of this btw
it feels like people think those who didn't enjoy chapter 5 wanted it to be bad. i hated 5 and i still have a lot of hope for 6/7/7b, to be real i feel like there's no way toby could possibly drop the ball
APOLOGIESFORTHEDELAY.THERE'SASTRAY CATIN THESERVERROOM.THENEWSLETTERSHALL BEREADYINAPPROXIMATELYFIVEHOURS.YOURPATIENCE ISAPPRECIATEDMY DELTARUNE.PLEASE.HOLDONA LITTLELONGER.
>>581159725>now I wonder if they're going to go sour grapes and act like whatever Chapter 6 IS going to give us is bad so they can feel rightThe answer is yes, they will, because this shit also happened with chapters 3-4. It happens with EVERYTHING now. They want drama stimmies no matter how made up it is. After Deltarune finishes, for 3 months you're going to see "NOW THAT THE DUST HAS SETTLED, WE CAN ALL AGREE DELTARUNE'S ENDING OBJECTIVELY SUCKED ASS" posts.
Kralsei is the male version of suselle but I don’t think anyone’s ready for that conversation (both ships are ass)
>>581159592Toby writes the alpha omega uke seme stereotypes that furry shippers and idiot teenagers are drawn to like flies on shit
>>581155105
>>581159724ackshually that line was about Deltarune not Undertale
>>581159486This. There are good yuri pairings out there, some I've even liked, but Suselle isn't one of them, and it only gets a pass in some circles BECAUSE it's yuri and most of the diehard yurifags (speaking as someone who has liked it before but doesn't religiously consume it like them) will eat anything up so long as it contains girls flriting with each other, blushing and having freckles.
>>581159789>Why does the game empower it's main cast to deal with problems instead of the side charactersa narrative riddle for the ages i gotta say
>>5811599643 and 4 were good. What are you talking about?
>>581159789>Having all authority figures be incompetent and taken out of the picture while teens are the only ones who can save the world is garbage level writing.This is genuinely like, 50-60% of the stories ever made. ATLA half qualifies as this.
>>581159780Only with Kris tho
>>581159725They're going to call chapter 6 shit no matter what. They were gonna call chapter 5 shit no matter what. They called 3+4 shit, probably called 2 shit. It's not really worth every thread getting flooded with arguments over whether or not Deltarune is actually worth playing.Yet people insist.
Feels kind of obvious he's doing a pattern thing, 3 and 5 are more self contained and 4 and 6 are more lore-focused. A big part of Deltarune is Toby wanting to explore specific ideas and he tries to weave them into the narrative in a way that feels unsatisfying to some people. On their own Tenna and Flowery have really cool arcs but they bother people because both of them aren't setting up pieces of a puzzle as well as something like Dess or Carol or Noelle or FRIEND. Plus the agitation from waiting so long is getting to people and people are getting less and less patient with short form video eroding attention spans
>>581159894The ball has already been dropped
>>581159965Kralsei is very chapter 2 era coded. You almost see no new Kralsei art in chapter 5, and even in chapters 3-4 it was falling off to Kriselle/KrusieI have absolutely no clue why this is by the way, I thought it was alright as a ship
>>581160078stop speedreading
>>581159710>Nobody cares about Kingchapter 1 boss that was cool for ten seconds, now is a fat and lives in a hamster cage. does nothing >Lancerposting at all-time lowslancer does nothing >Rouxls forgottenwas he even in 4? i can't remember >Queen completely overshadowedshe does nothing>Sweet Cap'n Cakesflowers version 1 >Swatch never took offi mean, there was nothing to him >No tears shed for Rambramb existed for 5 seconds and served no narrative purpose beyond giving us gifts and telling us about the sword route >Gerson quickly shelvedwell gerson is fucking dead you moron >Jackenstein memoryholedbarely a character>Titan derided as genericliterally not a character, a force of nature >Flowers badyeah they fucking suck beyond flowery who's a 6/10 at best deltarune's a little weird in that most characters only matter in the chapter they first appear in. then, if you bring them to castletown, they become goofy goobers that say silly things. it's not like i hate queen, tenna, any of them, it's just that they functionally stop being real characters when the spotlight is off of them. and they generally don't interest me enough to create endless headcanons about because what makes them interesting was tied into their place in the plot
Suselle's worst sin is being frankly boringI think people get too angry about it
>>581160018>flriting>minor spelling mistake because I naturally type fastIf someone would please help me set up my giant suicide gun with built-in timer...
carolllllllll *pukes*
>>581160196I still get kralsei on my timeline
>>581160031Narrative bending over backwards for main characters to shine is bad writing, yes. You will understand this when you engage with other media.
>>581160078People doomposted over chapter 3 endlessly and eventually started shitting on chapter 4.Yes, they were good. People still bitched, because internet randoms are fucking retarded. The average internet denizen is as stupid as your most idiotic coworker.
>>581159965it's not. ralsei's character isn't harmed by his crush on kris -- to the contrary, kris is fostering ralsei's development. we actually see their relationship develop on screen, too
NAPSTABLOOK *SKATS ALL OVER THE WALLS*
>>581160345>Stories focusing on their main characters is badThis might be the most retarded post I have ever read on this site. Congratulations.
I liked Blue. He was pretty cool.
>>581160384kris is GROOMING ralsei
>>581158807Imagine Susie and Noelle literally raping (you) together. That would be so hot
>>581160345That's all stories unironically
>>581159757>Put his entire pussy into the 10th anniversary>No Genocide Stream (yet, still 9/15 in the canon parts of the world)Come on Toby, please water we seedlings with your tism. What were you on about, what was the mind that let "The Demon" come forth? Sure it didn't fit last time but there's no charity obligations to hold you back now.
>>581160163I do remember the early backlash to every chapter. This one's a bit more intense than the last two though, I feel like 3&4 were being warmed up to by now. Again I think 90% of it is people being agitated for answers, but the chances are they will find something about the answers that upset them so yeah. It probably is a waste of time like you said. Whoever likes it will like it and whoever doesn't won't. Whatever. I do like to discuss things in a civil way but when there's so much bad faith on this site it makes me lose motivation
>>581160446As they should
>>581160127>50-60%Better brush up on Sturgeon's law, buddy.
>>581160354People weren't bitching for this long or this hard. Many people loved all the previous chapters and hated 5 or were at least disappointed with it
>>581159789>deltarune is only good if it's about undyne and napstablook solving the mysteries and stopping the roaring
>>581160227sa >in that most characters only matter in the chapter they first appear in.or they *revolve around the fun gang and if you removed their relationship to x fun gang member you're left with a relatively empty trope
>>581160513I ain't listenin to no fish that ain't blue
>>581160420He's saying a story shouldn't use the mechanism of making side characters hopelessly incompetent just to motivate the protagonists. I don't agree this applies to Deltarune though.
>>581160534People were absolutely complaining about chapter 3 being filler until the knight or some shit for more than 2 months
>>581159965Kralsei solely exists because Ralsei is supposed to be the gay one so he needs a man any man to fuck him. Kris doesn't matter. Kris is interchangeable with any man.
>>581160436I liked him as well and the insane forced drama here over him is agonizing.Hate how everyone kind of skips past his "This is a comedy, not a tragedy" line since I think that's applying to Deltarune as a whole. People want it to be this hyper tragic drama-tragedy when it's actually a comedy, and it obviously is one...>>581160513Sturgeon's law sucks because it's actually 10% of stuff is bad, 80% is okay, 10% is good. The reason why there seems to be more bad is because most people only care about the good and bad, and the bad stands out more, plus people go fucking nuts over bad stuff and overblow it hard.
>>581160163They probably called chapter 1 shit. They probably called Undertale shit too. Jerking off feels so good.
>>581159789>Having all authority figures be incompetent and taken out of the picture while teens are the only ones who can save the world is garbage level writingwhy are you even here if you dislike highschool stories >>581160127you don't engage with media past vidya for teens and it shows. pick up a book, watch an actual film
>>581160127I thought the same thing lol. Authority is incompetent in most stories and often in real life too
>>581160502We are one and the same on this issue, anon
>>581160196I see new Kralsei all the time after Ch5, some artists have popped up I've never seen before. I'd say it's the biggest resurgence after Ch2.
>>581160163i really don't like this dishonesty. hatred for 3+4, 2, and 1 was not nearly as strong or on point as hatred for 5
>Yeah man we ALWAYS loved Chapter 3 it SMASHED all the critics 11/10 day 1 amazing GODLY chapter and-Dude you can really tell Chapter 5 brought in a gigantic newfag horde for some reason when even now I'm still occasionally fighting people whining about Zeldaslop (the gameplay is functionally the exact same Deltarune fare)
Everything about Chapter 5 landed well with me except for the amplified Suselle spotlight (it isn't very well written and I already have preexisting spite towards the kinds of people who like it) and Asgore kind of doing nothing and then getting kidnapped.I didn't want a boss fight, his UT one was cool enough and it wouldn't have made sense, but it felt like he was shoved aside a bit.
>>581159789This post struck a nerve.
>>581160627Ok what is going to SAVE 5 then? It has nothing and killed all the enthusiasm for the futureThe ending of 3 felt like a big fucking deal and 4 delivered on what is set up perfectly
>>581159789I think you just don't like how people jerk off to the main characters and want adults to replace them
>>581160815it's a really bad post
>>581160196>>581160756i think kralsei "suffers" from being one of those ships artists just like lukewarmly. like they draw it once, kralsei vaguely looking at one another and holding hands, and never again. you don't really see accounts that are 100% kralsei dedicated like you see kriselle or krusie accounts
>>581160815Did it really? None of the replies are very angry.
>>581160534People were saying that nothing happened in chapters 3-4. According to most people, nothing happens.>>581160678>you don't engage with media past vidya for teens and it shows. pick up a book, watch an actual filmThis is the worst era of the internet because people constantly talk about "media literacy" and saying you don't know X Y Z and haven't engaged with REAL media, when what I said is absolutely true. The most common theme in stories is "The Authorities are incompetent and only our heroes can save the day"
Maturing is realizing ralsusie is the best ship and is end game
>>581160902there's a small pocket of posters who derive some sense of superiority for caring about the adults. mind you none of those adults have enough actual writing or plot importance to care about but uhhh idk they're all old? so interesting
Maturing is realizing Ralclover is the best ship and is end game
hi hello i just got home from work did i miss anything for the anniversasy?
>>581160972>The most common theme in stories is "The Authorities are incompetent and only our heroes can save the day"well yeah but those heroes aren't always kids/teens. in media aimed at kids/teens, you see kids/teens, but otherwise it's (young) adults. watch an hbo show or something
I've been here for two months wtf am i even doing anymore I need to play a other game
>>581160886you not being a retard would probably fix the chapter for you, the people that thought the only substance 3 had was Rory were retarded at the time and still retarded now.
>>581160976truekey as the children say
>>581160918Sounds like you aren't looking hard enough.
>>581160972You keep repeating yourself What happened in 5 that didn't already happen in 3? What did 5 bring to the table besides Suselle and JARONA LOL!!11!
>>581160976I'm someone who still thinks Harry should've gotten with Hermione, so... no
>>581160976ralsusie feels like what suselle fans want suselle to be/how they perceive suselle but susie is simply too stiff around noelle and noelle isn't as vulnerable/nurturing as ralsei is
>>581161072Tobert said he slept in since he worked hard on last year's anniversary. Fangamer announced some bathroom products like Napstblook bathmat and ICE-E towels and a Toriel headband. Also it had True Lab branding despite not being themed on Amalgamates (True Lavatory they called it)
Chapter 3 feels perfectly chapter 2 coded in retrospect, I don't know why it's considered different
>>581160918>you don't really see accounts that are 100% kralsei dedicated like you see kriselle or krusie accountsThere are some, but probably not as many. Picrel is probably one of the best ones out there. On the positive side, it kind of has a benefit of being a comfy small ship whose admirers don't usually participate in shipping wars, which is pretty nice.
>>581161072Not a damn thing, and the lack of anniversary stuff made the thread worse. Abandon ship and come back tomorrow.
>>581161087What does it fucking matter if they are or aren't kids, it's still the same thing.
>>581161102Got anything besides insults and browbeating?
>>581159961Need someone to help guard the server room? Know someone who's good with cats. Just realized I don't think anyone's drawn someone riding FRIEND like a battle cat or something.
>>581160976Shippers care more about Ralsei being submissive and Susie being dominant more than anything so it fits. Kris doesn't matter in Kralsei, they just want Ralsei to act like a pathetic sissy bottom tradwife for someone. Noelle doesn't mater in Suselle, they just want someone to fawn over and praise and lust over Susie.
>>581161110Absolute hetgem…
>>581161090You broke through the Matrix congrats anon
>>581160990and we are superior btw
>>581161253there are so many people that seemed to think this was supposed to be a Deltarune anniversary lmao
3 and 5 filter dumb people because they don't want to engage with the characters in a meaningful way beyond stimmy bait so they can't figure out what happened in them. knight shows up at the end and gives the biggest stimmies so they usually say that was the only interesting parts of them
>>581160784>The people who got really bizarrely mad over the Zelda-style aesthetics>The people who were mad that Toriel wasn't some guest party member because guys she'll totally be like Noelle and cast FIREGRAVE guys she'll get really really mad if enemies beat up Kris>The people who got upset when Undyne did nothing (fair, actually)>The people who were fuming about the S-Rank rooms because they're bad at actually PLAYING a VIDEO GAME>The people who were bitching about Tenna somehow aping Spamton too hard (because we were still in peak Spamton wank)>The people bellyaching about how Kris's Dark World wasn't tailored to their personal headcanon instead of Kris's actual character (this self-inserter divide would reach an apex in Chapter 4's hockey stick scene)>The people who were welching about no Weird Route at all>The people who, like >>581160627 said, just called the entire chapter fucking fillerShit really wasn't fun for a long while, and it only really stopped because people here started schlicking to Tenna and {checks notes} PIPPINS but GREEN
>>581160976Ralsusie but it's Tralsei
she WILL save him
>>581161346Tf do you mean
>>581161317Bait used to be believable
Tenna ruined an entire generation of women.Fuck we might see unironic posts saying that in a year or two.
Chapter 3 had more lorestimmies than 4 actually because the entire plotline about the modified original game is foreshadowing the huge twist of Deltarune's universe
>>581161410slop…
>>581161148NTA but if Jarona pissed you off I'm kind of amazed you got this far
>>581161306you didn't provide anything to engage with, why should I give you a real response
Now that the dust has settled I hate Chapter 5 so much it’s unreal because of the trans yuri filler pacing mystery box hoo ha Jarona
>>581161293Because adults take charge because they are the responsible ones. Kids don't do firefighter's or cop's job.
>>581161224>>581161253thanks>napstablook bathmat99% chance I will not buy that but i'm always happy to see blooky get merch
>>581161473What did Tenna do?
>>581160918aamakuruu is probably the patron saint of Kralsei
>>581161535>adults are the responsible onesAdults are just big children LOL
>>581161317Everytime I see kralsei art I project myself onto kris so that’s true desu
>>581161467Kris and Noelle are blank spaces that don't matter
Idk wtf to draw
>>5811613623 is great because it does wonderful things with subtle characterization5 was a big fat torpedo in terms of characterization
>>581161362Ah, we are back to "you mad cuz no stimmies" bait.
>>581161532I have a 135+ IQ and I've been saying this a lot lately.
>>581161575made me believe in love again
>>581161362It is a shame because Flowery is such a smart character, but a lot of people who don't like Chapter 5 just reflexively hate him which I guess to be fair is kind of part of his arc, they just never get past that point and don't really care about how he not only helps develop Ralsei but make us question if what we're doing is even really the right thing.
>>581161637Check please
>>581161409n-nyooooooooooo…………
>>581161678it's always true and it always gets 'em going because they know it's true too
>>581161652Pippins!
>ctrl-f stimmies>3 resultsso it's one guy spamming right?
>>581161613Why don't we send kids to war then LOL
>>581161652Ralsei looking at a bow put on his left horn (viewer's right) and blushing, in a dark room illuminated by star-shaped lights
>>581161652spamton suicide
>>5811617981. I was quoting Deltarune2. They do that, even in first world countries.
>>581161532>because of the trans yuriTrans? Did your irrational hate slip in when it wasn't even present buddy? Or maybe you're just mad about Transei Twitter posts? Either way kind of embarassing
stimmies grimmies plappies cummies
>>581161128could you share some artists >>581161579yeah i know about this one
>>581161790I'm sorry AnyoneWhoSaysStimmiesIsTheSameGuyanon but stimmies is common /utg/ vocabulary
>>581161790"stimmies" is a foid leaning buzzword, though
>Chapter 3 suddenly being praised for its lore clues>Got consistently shat on when it first released because it they said it was filler with fujobaitWatch this same thing happen to Chapter 5 in the near future
>>581161731He's an incredibly dumb character. It's one of the most spiteful pieces of writing anyone will ever seeHe's like a joke of what a toby fox character would be except it's not funny because he is actually in the game
>>581161790only used it once
>>581161854Which first world country sends 5 year olds to war?
>>581161910He was probably saying "trans" and "yuri" separately. The "trans" part is still retarded though because that's just how twittards took that scene with the voucher.
Fave is playing Dark Urge in Baldur's gate 3 for the first time and they went into their inventory and clicked the "show camp clothes" icon and oh my goodness gracious he's a hunk woah daddyThis is relevant to Deltarune because Alphys is another lizard I would have sex with.
>>581161974Spiteful? I honestly don't know what you're on about so whatever
>>581161973>>Got consistently shat on when it first released because it they said it was filler with fujobait>consistently
>>581161980Yeah, once on your phone. Once on your PC, and then one more time after a router reset.
>>581161973I love 3 but it is innarguably fujo bait
Part of me wants to feel vindicated for Chapter 3 praise I actually just feel fucking angry honesty
Chapter 5 literally tells you about Mike and FRIEND and is all about the prophecy freedom what it means to live without love it cannot be seen the world revolving Flowey Undertale human souls Kris SOUL device theory fiction reality etcetera etcetera
Flowery isn't funny. He's annoying, he keeps saying random stuff that doesn't mean anything and somehow people find it funny. He shoves Ralsei into a closet, constantly belittles him, makes fun of him, threatens and blackmails Kris and Ralsei with "ohh I know Kris made the fountain" and tells Susie about 4th wall breaking shit outside the player's view with zero payoff. He breaks the stats, he steals the Mercy mechanic, he refuses to use Dark Dollars in the Dark World making the player's previous money useless, abuses voice commands even when you tell him to stop it, etc. I do not understand how he got this popular. I could barely get through the chapter without my blood boiling.
Why are schizos pretending like chapter 5 isn't more polarizing than any other chapter?
>>581161790does it get under your skin that bad
>>581161668this and tenna was fun
I was gone for a few hours any word on the newsletter?
GODpter 3 was literally always good, it always the filtered the ADHD midwits and now those same retards are pretending they liked it. Grimmy.
>>581162064Wait, I almost forgot about Bratty. I wanna touch her scales.
>>581162054You having an axe to grind with Twitter makes a lot of weird criticisms make sense, kind of hard to take anything you say in good faith anymore because it feels like you have some political anti-trans agenda that colors all your views of media so it's probably best to close this
Stimmy stimmy ya stimmy yam stimmy yeGimme da Mike so I can fuck him all day
>>581162125I wasn't a big fan of chapter 3 at first but I thought it was alright. Realizing people did a 180 on it one day was kinda crazy.
>>581161973>I didn't see people saying they liked Chapter 3 in the few times I skimmed the thread a year ago so nobody ever liked it and everyone unanimously hated it when it came out and nobody argued
The entire game is fujobait. Toby kneels to the power of the fujodollar. Fujos are clearly the most influential group of the fandom.
>>581162073>funny meme character is actually serious and has DEEP feelings and wants to LIVE>overpowered... but actually super weak?>dies tragically while sad music plays despite the fact that he was a dick to everyone the whole time
Saw people claiming flowery is trans on xitter and it made me realize utg is the only sane part of this community
>>581161532Touched a nerve with the yuri transbians
>>581162256GODpter 3 friends looks like I finally have to go to sleep.>always the filteredGoodbye.
>>581161731>It is a shame because Flowery is such a smart characterAs someone who dislikes Flowery, I agree on one hand, but to me the main moral lesson that Flowery conveys, beyond the "have faith in yourself" one, is that even if the person is not really a villain, you can have legit grounds to not like them. >how he not only helps develop RalseiThat he does, but I guess I've never really liked the "asshole trickster mentor" trope or at least never felt like most people would have warm feelings towards someone like that. Sure, people learn from bad experiences, but that doesn't make the experiences any better.>but make us question if what we're doing is even really the right thingTo me both the Fun Gang and Flowery felt like two evenly matched parties in terms of morality from the very beginning, so it didn't really have any effect.
>>581162256I have ADHD can you not call me a midwit?Actually nevermind, I've decided you're my mortal enemy now. Fuck you.
>>581162191I think the real schizonigger bullshit that you HAVE to pretend isn’t the case is the fact that now that Susie and Noelle are off the shipping menu the dam has finally burst>Same fucking fanbase that needs two Kris self-insert shipping worship generals on /trash/
>>581162098being new and seething is a very, very interesting combination. perhaps try lurking first.>>581161485yes but it took people a while to analyze that stuff and figure out what it meant with eram and original game and kris lore beyond surface level wow weird route level discussion, so that didn't really factor into initial reactions
>YOU ALWAYS HATED CHAPTER 3 GRRRRRRI didn't. Tenna is the best dark world boss.
>>581162184I also actually fucking hated Flowery and my friends were astounded. I explained how much of a dick he is and how his suicide-by-knight was just emotional manipulation and I think they kinda got where I was coming from... and then kept saying Jarona and shit so I just let it go.
i fucking hate chapter 3 and fucking love chapter 5 what does that mean help me i'm being pulled in two directions and ripped in half
>>581162192its a baby talk non-word that you can use to completely dismiss any argumentit's like saying people only hate chapter 2 because the are glorgao
>>581162272I don't and I'm not the hoho wahoo mysteryjarona guy (I'm actually >>581160801), sometimes people just misinterpret each other's posts that are already retarded and get even more retarded about them and it peeves me.
i wish i could draw...
>>581162064Fave agrees and only bought BG3 after they were announced because the Lizard guys in D:OS2 were also hot. Wish there had been a Dragonborn party member outside of modding existing ones
>>581162329Again if you're reducing everything to "it's bad because... it's bad" Like what, are you saying it's too cliche? You're just saying what happened in a dismissive way which makes me again question how you got this far. And yeah the villains have been sympathetic despite attacking the protagonists, that's been the case since Undertale. I am genuinely trying to understand but you confuse me so I need to disengage because I don't wanna play argument tennis forever
>>581162469True Tobycore enjoyers didn't but many tourists did.
>>581162184Ralsei shut the fuck up
>>581162395flowery fucking trannygroomed ralsei
I have “it’s emotional manipulation” fatigue
>>581162373>utg>most saneGrim beyond belief
>>581162506the insult is about how autistic people stim it's pretty self explanatory, you are being called retarded
i wish more kralsei artists remembered that kris is kind of a freak and a bully and that ralsei is like noelle but without the edge of "i could fix/tame this"
>>581162512Ah okay, my apologies then. There's a lot of people talking so it's hard to keep it straight
>>581162491>ripped in halfIt means it's time to check if you are really green in-between.
>>581162586>it's too clicheyes it feels like toby is making fun of his own style of character design except he forgot to actually put in any substance to balance it out
>>581162670I mean it’s a low bar tbf
>>581162373I guess you could make an argument for themes and such. Flowery is the one who tells Ralsei that they can be whatever they want
>>581162727S'all good.
>>581162329real holy shit chapter 5 faggots would cry to jingling keys if there was sad music playing in the background
>>581162491You're a spiritual eunuch. But there's still hope for you perchance mayhapsily.
Scalies or Furries
>>581162713for not likening what you like and you have no argument against any of this criticism
No Green that's too much food for Orange you're gonna make her so big!!!
>>581162724My favorite reading of it is probably that both of them are really tired of fate tossing them around and find comfort in sharing simple pleasures. That said, I do like when Kris gets mischievous with Ralsei.
>>581162807Slur-filled diatribe. Very insightful
>>581162807The same is going to happen with Kris in ch6 when they eat the golden seeds and fucking die
>>581162903no usually for needing the thread to make white noise for you
>>581162875Need my furry fuzzy reindeer gf
>>581162875Scalies. That cripple gator vn changed me said fave
Flowery and Ralsei proves that Kris and Ralsei doesn't matter
Some of you people are so negative that I genuinely can’t conceive of what the selling point of Chapter 1, maybe Chapter 2 was for you when you loathe the characters, the setting, the overall writing and you thought it was always corny shit from the first day.
>>581162903have you considered that i don't care enough about your arguments to take them seriously, and just want to call you sperg for wasting a bump on drivel
>>581162373i feel like i perceived an initial tug of war between self hating hetero girls who wanted him to be a he/him "lesbian" and tifs who desired a transmasc cuntboy, for a little bit, when chapter 5 first dropped
Mewmew's jubilant and kaleidoscopic butthole~
>>581162329 (me)the funniest part is I just realized this describes flowey/asriel perfectlybravo toby
>>581162329He didn't even die tragically. He died like an idiot.
>>581162747Toby has played with cliches since Undertale, again not sure how this was somehow the breaking point, I say this as a fan from the start, but alright. Fair enough
>>581162978>Slur-filled diatribe. Very insightfulmade my dick twitch, you single? haha
stimmies and fuzzy cwitters are shrimply part of the /utg/ lexicontrying to narrow them down to one mastermind samefaglord poster is like trying to say anyone who says tranny is the same personyou would know if you weren't new
bunch of people shitting their diapies over nothing lol all you have to do is say "CHAPTER 5"
>>581163027Say it 10 more times, maybe it'll mean something
>>581163043Chapter 1 & 2 would not hold up under current /utg/ cynicism
>>581162978chapter 5 bottom faggots would cry to jingling keys if there was sad music playing in the background
>>581163106>Toby so out of ideas that he started self-plagerizing
>>581162987>>581163057>stop discussing the gameok toby
>>581163126i mean if flowery genuinely did manage to stick a seed on the knight...
>>581163043I'm coming to this conclusion too. The hatred of Flowery is just hating him for everything that Undertale and Deltarune just... are. Maybe they're just getting older and they don't like Toby's style anymore? I feel there is a society wide general cynicism happening and maybe Chapter 5 is falling victim to it. And that there nothing was wrong with the way it was written, people just got tired and angry as they aged.
Ch 1 > Ch 3 > Ch 4 > Ch 2 > Ch 5
Chapter 5 was beautiful. I’m sick of arguing about it so I’m not throwing my hat in the ring this time but like, just for example thinking about the Cliffs as an area makes me emotional. The sun setting in the background as we climb along and jump between sheer cliffs rising above a sea of cherry blossoms, Pink encouraging us to cherish the world, to appreciate its beauty, to forge bonds, even brief ones in the limited time we have, the beautiful music, the lovable Darkners, Aqua and Seth
>>581163290>Flowery sticking his seed in the KnightNow THAT'S shipping
I told you all to only make important posts!
>>581163281if you can't deal with people making fun of you maybe you should stop posting. has to be a good echo chamber around for you somewhere, maybe twitter
i enjoyed every chapter
>>581163323Toby referencing himself is getting exhausting Sorry for expecting him to mature as an author and finally write something with substance
>>581162972i like this reading as well and ofc there's ralsei's unconditional love for and trust in kris... i find it sweet
>>581163043>>581163238>Susie was beating up Lancer but she… le stopped! Wow Toby totally good writing definitely not cliched at all she’s actually just a sweetheart I can see it
>>581163404>Doing the "4chan is for tough edgy boys!! Go to Tweumblr!" in 2026Cringe
>>581163404>no u
>>581163323i replayed the entire game pre-5 and loved it (stuff involving the music robots in 2 excepted), so this isn't it. if i'm being real 5 didn't even feel like a toby chapter. there was no genuine heart despite its many attempts to bait me into sensing heart
Chapter 5 is fun but exemplifies the shallower traits of Toby's writing a little too much
>>581163323The thing is, when I first played Undertale, I was annoyed by some of the characters initially, but they grew on me by the midpoint of the game, which is a pretty short time. And looking back at them, I still like those characters even now. Flowery never managed to do that.
>>581163404thats not what is happing at all right nowI am going to continue to post about how bad chapter 5 was in this thread about deltarune and no matter how many times you cry about "stimmies" people like me will keep discussing the game
>>581163476makes me think when it’s inevitably revealed kris is a traitor ralsei will side with kris instead of susie
>People accidentally admitting they grew up into snide sperglord adultsWelp
>>581163564Uh oh tranny melty
>>581163471I mean he did though. But I guess I can't respond to this early because that's all I can say is... he did. You just don't think so. Sorry I guess... I feel like I am in another dimension than half of you at this point where you just say "I hated Flowery because he sucked" and I don't agree at all because I cared about him and the Flowers and we're getting nowhere.
hetgem indeed
5 is a dud but I'm absolutely positive 6 and 7 will be good
Did we ever figure out who this cute boy is?https://vocaroo.com/1o8FqParDXRS
>>581163635you can keep doing that and everyone else can keep calling you dumb. that's a thread. stop crying over being called dumb ya big ol' sissy
>>581163564UH OH tranny melty
>>581163579>5 didn't even feel like a toby chapterWell it was mostly done by guest collaboratorsToby only did the directing and composition
>>581163785Yeppppp raidcore meltie confirmed
>>581163785that moid is my husband
>>581163785Yeah, me.
Oh God it's these faggots again
>>581163579Toby let others write jokes which is why it lacks soul.
>>581163564UH OH TRANNY MELTY
Ralsei urinating on the floor
>>581163476>>581163686Ralsei will probably have a major moment of realization that he can love Kris without blindly following them and that he may need to do something Kris may not like at the time but that will do them good. That'd be the culmination of his independence arc.
>>581163785Has anyone confirmed if this is Toby Fox?
>>581163785This boy destroying me with his fat cock and filling me with his children
>>581163697>>581163816I'm not even trans I'm just like a dude lol not everyone who gets annoyed by your irritating behavior is trans. Though I guess when you're a hammer everything looks like a nail
>>581163579What are some times you feel it tried to bait you into sensing heart?A lot of chapter 5 didn't resonate with me but everything except Flower Castle really did things right imo. Maybe the early field area was a little boring, but as soon as you get the feather the chapter hits the gas and doesn't let up until you're dealing with the flowers in the castle.The cliffs REALLY got my dick hard. Platforming sections carried chapter 5 hard on first play. I think when I get back into the game I'll learn to appreciate it even more.
>>581163686the angst potential is indeed delicious
ramb-okasan...
>>581163750>I cared about him and the FlowersWhy? He shows up and says "heh smell you later rally" and then an hour later he's bleeding out saying "please... care about a flowers dream..."
>>581163752THEY’RE BEAUTIFUL
>>581163785i bet his cocks big
Right when I think maybe the criticism is at least relatively organic they always end up cocking it up by dumping their peripheral off-topic spam that always mysteriously shows up at the same time each time.You fucking clods.
>>581162237>filename is not 'smug jug'FUCKING TOURISTS
yeah okay there's no point in being here for a day or two
>>581163785and erotic
>>581163997Because that's a mentoring trope and not being genuinely antagonistic towards the fun gang.
>>581163913>The nebulous, undefined, vague concept of "soul" used as a genuine criticismOh yeah, /v/'s here. That explains everything
>>581155220Hey Raly
>>581163686Susie seems to be on path to fulfil the prophecy even though she saw how it ends so good for Ralsei.
>>581163957Imagine if your choices actually impact who ralsei sides with, like if you chose “keep smiling” or other negative options he sides with susie instead of kris
>>581163785him and fave double teaming me
>>581163610 (me)I gotta clarify though, Flowery was probably one of 2 things I didn't like about Ch5 (the other one being that Asgore was barely a presence). I found the rest of the chapter to be very nice, especially the gameplay and the humor.
>>581155106ralsei can help with this
>>581163804>everyone*you and your pillar buddies
>>581164027even down to the same vocaroo shit like they forgot they already did this bit before>inb4 more catbox spam
>>581164145That's a recorded choice so it might happen
>>581163785he sounds like this
>>581164145I really hope we start to get moments like this now that we're near the end of the game where it can afford to have our choices matter a bit
>>581164027>shit up the thread on purpose>pretend your enemies are shitpostersAnother job well done, huh?
Does this thread need a TV HERO?
Flowery is a wonderful character because he is driven in purity of heart for love’s sake to do what he believes in even in the face of apparently insurmountable odds. He is living the pacifist root, clinging to his hopes and dreams, even without a likely prospect of reward, like Frisk got at the good ending of Undertale. His happily ever after was almost impossible. There is no group photo and slice of butterscotch pie, no bright days ahead. But he did what he thought was right anyways. Even if he could only live for a single day. Because he loved Asgore, his friends, and life. He even prepared for the worst case scenario by carefully controlling the flow of information to ensure that Susie would get the shelter away from Kris etc.
>>581164089He teaches them nothing
>>581163997I mean you left out a ton of dialogue in between those two things happening. Flowery explaining what his cause is and why it's so important to him, and making genuinely good points about why Castle Town's allowed to have their fountain but the flowers have to have their freedom taken away, especially when they've grown to like each other as a family, and they're not fighting because they dislike you but because your ideals are incompatible. I can do the same with Asriel, you don't even know who he is then 30 minutes later you're crying over him. This isn't really a good complaint
>>581163785tfw fat irl and will never ever be a cute twink
>>581163951green and yellow and the worst offenders. ralsei and susie falling all over themselves to suck up to green as if green was really that cool (this faggot never even speaks) and then being so, soo shocked and appalled that yellow wanted to kill himself made me cringe. now that i'm typing i remember them fearing blue, too. for some reason it's just too stark of a tone shift, like they didn't really care about tenna that much. ralsei basically told him to suck it up and be a tv and not bother anybody and susie got angry at him several times for getting in their way and then there was the whole >t-thank you for watching my dream shit. was i supposed to crack a tear? nah dude i was just glad they were fucking gone
>drinks water>clears throat>takes out a megaphoneMintbrap got eaten up by JellyNEET
>>581164323Has fatposting gone out of style?
>>581164323YES! PLEASE FART ON THE SHITTERS, OUR BIG GLORIOUS TENNA!
>>581164027at least they always go in a day or two. no news means it should pretty fast this time
Flowery is a rapist who touched Asgore inappropriately and is grooming Ralsei into being like Asgore so he can fuck him
>>581163785He has a cute voice…
>>581163785ill make him pee himself
>>581164089>tropeThis kind of meta consumerism is revolting.
requesting gay and slutty ralsei
>>581163785him slurping like that on your cock hnngnh
>>581164089NTA, but I'd say it's fair to not like a mentor if their methods are assholish
The weirdest part is when a MALE flower who has only existed for a day teaches Susie how to yuri offscreen
>>581163785POST THE COCK PICS
>>581164451Everything is tropes retard.Yeah you know what, I'm just gonna close out of the thread now.
>>581164392>implying homofaggots are not into fartsI mean, they literally enjoy anal and fuck ass
>>581164352honestly agree. the fandom praises flowery for "giving" ralsei a backbone, but he always had one and flowery didn't introduce anything to him besides. susie has constantly reinforced that ralsei is real and matters since chapter 1all flowery did is piss him off and troll
I mean I think some of you guys should stealthily use /vrpg/ whenever the thread is getting shat up
>>581164409so what I'm hearing is Flowery becoming filled with Asgore's farts is not only environmentally friendly for Hometown but also ethical
>>581164490Why is it weird that a flower would teach Susie about love?
>>581164247Didn’t know that was a recorded choice, interesting
>>581164352extremely filtered take on the chapter sadly>>581164451sorry for reading two books i won't do it again
>>581163785He said in the discord to stop shitting up the thread with this recording
