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>>581167965EVILhan the PSYCHOPATHIC REFUSES to let Videl get ultimate to fix her eyesight because he likes how she looks with glasses
The way things are looking now, the android race will have the highest speed and low cooldowns, possibly also passive key regen, to make up for having no awoken skills. Does that sound good or do you anon think it could be better?
>>581171005I don't remember there being anything that said androids will have no awakening skills, or even passive ki regen.
>>581171234They took passive regen away from basic humans in xv3 so I'm just guessing androids got it instead, with that whole "infinite energy" thing.
Androids already look like Saiyans and Humans in XV3, if only they were Bio-Androids (Cell's race)...
>>581171624Namekians are mentioned to have passive health regen, so i'm not sure why they'd omit androids having ki regen if it's something they have
>>581171720humans shouldn't even be their own race, just make all saiyans human-saiyan hybrid descendants of Goku and Vegeta. DBO has that as its lore anyway from what I remember. there's nothing humans have that androids and saiyans don't also have but better.
>>581171769So Namekians don't have Orange?
The 2 transformation thing makes no sense. Why isn't it 3? And why isn't there a transformation tab?
>>581175002maybe they're just hiding it to reveal later? No clue desu
>>581175002I bet Orange will be DLC.
>>581175618It's a bit odd to give fridges Full Power but not give Namekians Orange. Is it not the same body morphing?
>>581175002>>581182223Orange>SS Blue, what did you expect?
>>581182342Obviously powerlevel wise, but I meant like the shifting of the base CAC model.
>>581171769>no SS2i sleep
>>581183665SS2 awoken skill with a SSRage power-up, trust the plan.
>>581158676>Okay so you just destroyed my cope so I'll convince myself you totally agree with meNo.
>>581171005>key regenEver since ki and stamina were combined into a single stat, I think everyone regenerates ki in the same way. So it seems logical (to me) that to represent the Androids' “infinite ki” they would have short cooldowns.
so right nowHumans, Kaioken to Kaioken x20Namkikans, Power AwakeningSaiyans, Super saiyan to Super Saiyan 3it is weird how they skipped 2 and for Kaioken skipped x3If the theory is true that The Power to Overcome is meant to be a test run for xenoverse 3 awakenings and all of them are 2 stagers what other awakenings can you see being like that among existing forms?Where do people thin Freiza's clan are getting his final form and max power forms from?
>>581197010>Where do people thin Freiza's clan are getting his final form and max power forms from?I wonder if they'd make Final form to 100% so they can make Golden to Black as a DLC.
>no Beta Testsoulless SCAMco, they already know people will eat it up so why even give demo at this point
>>581197389huh?
I'm confident that Sparking Zero will add Goku (Galactic Patrol) as a character, but don't know how they will do it. Assuming they stick to 4 forms max like the other Gokus, will it be Base, Blue, UI and Giant UI? Omen instead of Mastered UI since that was a plot point? I would also be cool with they dropping base and having this Goku start as either SS, SSG or Blue
>>581197010>Where do people thin Freiza's clan are getting his final form and max power forms from?There's a shot of Fridge in the trailer that seems to be powering up to 100%, but I think it will just be Base>100%>Golden. 100% will just make your character buff while keeping their appearance the same
look at the NPC,s do you see it? I see android 21 and that fat bitch from universe 4 who fought cabba's hairstyles
>>581199059>UniversityLame, should be high school.
>>581197356I'd much rather stack Golden on 5th form and be able to choose your colours. The gold they use is rather gaudy.
>>581197729XV3 not holding any server test is so disappointing is what I mean. (Which is practically confirmed now since the game releases early next year)
>>581200481>server testWho cares?
>>581198239UI avatar will probably be just an ultimate, it's a situation technique and Goku only uses it at the end of the two arcs after the ToP after all. It's probably gonna be>base with "UI-integrated" things like in the Granolah arc>SSB with Instant Transmission Limit-Breaking Kamehameha (the one he used to blow Moro's arm) and other stuff, good chance to update SSB Goku in general>UI-Sign but "true" to saiyan instinct, apeshit mode>mastered UI with the avatar as ultimateThe question is the eventual new Vegeta, would he get SSG-SSB-UE? SS-SSB-UE? It would be weird if Goku (Super-Late) gets SSB as first transformation but Vegeta (Super-Late) gets it as second one and technically the only new things Vegeta shows in former transformations is spirit fission and Hakai both as SSB but giving him only base, SSB and UE would also be weird
>>581203492>eventualSays you. I pray that Toei and Toriyama both saw it in their infinite wisdom to scrap that awful form.
>>581187325What is this retranigger saying? Moro wished for his magic powers back and his underlings to be freed, you are the only one bringing up age
>>581204181>This nonsensical babbleNobody can even tell what you were trying to say
>>581204181>didn't recognize his shitposting patternsOh sweet summer child, why do you think last thread was so comfy at the end? "He" was asleep. But no longer.
>>581204181>>581204512/dbs/ is that way.
>>581204772It's insane /dbs/ fags really think they're not super obvious with how they just suddenly start sperging out about shit nobody here can understand.
>>581204936Even on /dbs/ you get bullied for redditor bullshit like 'muh summer child'.
>>581201937I just want a demo. XV1 and XV2 both had one.
>>581205986Would be neat but the industry doesn't do demos anymore outside indi games
Have no idea what's going on, but I have been seeing a lot of discussion about Dragon Ball "boy wives" on Twitter and that's pretty cool.
>>581208269As it based trap stuff or cringe tranny stuff?
>>581204181>Moro wished for his magic powers back and his underlings to be freedI haven't really been following the Super manga and only seen snippets of discussions here and there over the years, but that almost sounds like King Piccolo
>>581208891Because it is and he's in a denial.And both could have been accomplished by Moro without DBs.
>>581208570You can be the judge of that, this model by "Owariduck" looks like Caulifla if she had top surgery.
>>581209371Why are his arms black?
>>581209371Looks a prototype fusion of Caulifla and Cabba, or their dumb son, if he were about to have an action figure made...or a shitty Kiido from twitter
>>581192285>Nico
i am excited for xenoverse 3
what was your reaction upon seeing ssg for the first time?
>>581212030
>>581167965 I don't know when she lost her virginity exactly but how do you think Chi-chi reacted when she knew her first born son was no longer a virgin considering her first interaction with Videl ?Videl meets Chi-chihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1u5kVjjfno
>>581211298Happy for you, anon.>>581212030I thought it was neat.>>581212362I don't think she really ever thought about it once they were officially a couple.
>>581212030It was love at first sight.
>>581212030I really found it lackluster. And still do, only the aura saves it.
>>581168125more like RETARDhan the FOOLISH, what kind of saiyan warrior allows his eyes to get so shit
>We need to somehow make DBS more serious>"Just turn the smiles upside down dud"Yes that's totally Toriyama's vision, certainly the guy who made 10 gag mangas and movies.
>>581212030I still remember people kept drawing golden SSJ4 because one of the trailers kind of baited people by showing Goku seemingly becoming an Oozaru. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TECC84wDcX8&t=26
>>581212030Thought Kaioken would play some part in it. Nowadays I like the flame aura the most.
>>581213312Of course Toei would shit on him the moment he passes away. This is no better than the shit Nickelodeon did with Steven Hillenberg and Spongebob.
>>581213312>making them frown Literally for what purpose?
>>581216335Trick hoodweebs in thinking it's now serious and cool.
>>581213312>>581215112>>581215112>>581216680Normies have literally spent the entirety of Super's run seething that there's no blood or that Goku's a retard now. This is pandering to them.
>>581217187I'm not an ESSENCIAfag but I would like blood back. Getting punched really hard and only spit coming out was pretty weird
>>581217187>>581217465I don't care much for blood but when damages basically stop at 'scratches on random parts of the body' it get goofy after a while of them piling up. Like when Goku's back exploded in the TOP.
>>581217843yeah, at least let them wipe blood off their mouth once or twice or something. I don't think that's too edgy is it
>>581218001Just let the scratches bleed a little once the characters get damaged past 'get scratches all over your body and clothes' too, it gives SOME visual indication of 'They are in a WORST state now'.It would also help with differentiating when a character is sandbagging vs REALLY getting fucked.
>>581218001>>581218562Also Goku's weird muscle spasms after the SSJBKK10 against Hit was a REALLY good way to show he really damaged his body and got hit hard by the Kaioken.
>>581219016i'm gonna be sad if they cut the filler right after that. I really did like Goku hanging out with his family for a bit
>>581219091The term 'filler' has done permanent damage to the industry.
>>581219489I mean it's the kind of thing that would largely only happen in toei Z filler, so I just kind of keep calling it that.
>>581219634Yeah but that's kinda the issue I'm pointing out, you end up with anything that isn't a fight getting called filler nowadays.
>>581219892While true, I think Dragonball in particular is a special case because it's such an extremely lean manga that pretty much any downtime tends to be filler. Like it has downtime, but it's not the kind of stuff that would be given full episodes or elaborated on much and is generally given like a panel or two. Most training is almost entirely skipped over, too.
>>581219634>>581219892That's the kind of trend I blame for stuff like Kengan dropping all the bits with the CEOs and stuff
The thing that annoys me the most about filler is it can mean two completely different things. It can mean full on filler arcs like black water mist, otherworld tournament, cell games wait, etc. Or it can be referring to stuff like long panning shots and extended scenes of people powering up to pad out episode time and it's not really possible to tell which someone's referring to unless they elaborate
>>581220560>Or it can be referring to stuff like long panning shots and extended scenes of people powering up to pad out episode timeThat's the kind of filler I hate.
Do you guys think Toppo is the U11 god in XV3? It's been 200 years, not long for gods but I think that's long enough for Toppo to have finished his training while Belmod retired.Gowasu probably would have retired too, he is kind of old.
>>581221162Probably not honestly.
>>581221162God stuff in DB kinda happen on a 'million of years' scale.
New XV3 trailer tomorrow at TGS apparently
>>581224123source?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L42Y3eKTsOMkeep seeing this pop up in my feed, someone's essentially added tenkaichi tag team's 2v2 (and 3v3) to BT3
Genuinely, why do Dragon Ball fans ship Goku with every woman, even women NOT from his series like Hinata, Erza or Saber, but NEVER his own wife who he has kids and a grandkid with???
>>581231181Genuinely why do you enter threads and spam inane garbage nobody cares about???
>>581231181I like Goku. I like women. So both should be together>NEVER with his own wife1: They do ship them2: They'd be shipped a lot more if Chichi was FINALLY allowed to have a look other than her Buu saga one and they remembered her name means 'tits'.
>>581229326If only Sparking Zero had 2v2...
>>581231181It all just comes down to self-inserting as the hero (Naruto fans are especially guilty of this) and the DB fandom having a fetish for NTR. DB fans often ship Goku with outside characters instead of Chi-Chi because Goku self-inserters dislike how Chi-Chi is portrayed as a nagging housewife who hinders Goku's training and blames her for Gohan not living up to his full potential i.e. "CHADhan" and encouraging him to study (contrary to what fans think, Chi-Chi didn't force Gohan to become a scholar, he wanted to become one by his own volition) even though Chi-Chi was entirely justified in trying to keep Gohan from fighting dangerous battles when he was a young child. She's also technically correct about telling Goku to get a job, considering Goku's family were living off of the World Tournament money (that got quickly spent) and the Ox-King's donations. In this respect, Chi-Chi is right that Goku is effectively a deadbeat (as a breadwinner). Also, Chi-Chi only trained so she could marry Goku and fans would prefer Goku if he was paired with a "Lady of War" who can be on Goku's level and understand his fighting junkie tendencies (you also see a lot of fans prefer Goku with Bulma because she encourages Vegeta and Trunks to train which is funny, because Bulma actually DOES complain that Vegeta is a bum who doesn't work while Chi-Chi eventually does accept that Goku loves to fight and doesn't try to change him, she just wants him to do the bare minimum as a father which Goku does, he's a farmer and very proud of his job).
Incredibly forced drama from Toriyama. Why on earth would he write this?
>>581235254>Chi-Chi was entirely justified in trying to keep Gohan from fighting dangerous battles when he was a young child.No, she wasn't, she was delusional, they'd have DIED if Gohan didn't fight. This revisionism need to stop.
>>581192285why would the RRA make an android that looks like a 12 year old and dresses like this?
>>581235815Because they aren't retarded transsexuals on Tumblr.
>>581235886literally how trannies dress, right down to the programming socks
>>581236259No they don't.
>>581236259Which is why they get mad when an actual woman looks like that and demand for it to be removed whenever they see it.
Any cool DB fangame or fangmanga?
>>581235419Chi-Chi is a normal human mother living in a world where her 4-to-10-year-old child is being dragged into bloody, life-or-death arenas against immortal monsters and genocidal tyrants. Her son was taken away from him by her husband's nemesis while her husband was dead for a whole year and when she sees them again, she finds her 5-year-old son beaten to a bloody pulp.Goku is right that Earth would face total annihilation if Gohan hadn't stepped up, and Chi-Chi is right about not wanting her child fighting intergalactic warlords, no matter how strong he is. Her freak-outs are completely realistic human reactions in a series full of aliens and magic. She's entirely justified even if she comes off as irrational.
>>581237116Chi-chi is definitely not normal nor was her upbringing normal.
>>581237078DB Multiverse.
>Squadra in season 7 added Adrenaline Power>A divine card that does self afflicted DoT>It used to fill up Jiren's passive, making it very easy to maintain>Today, a week later, they patched the game and Adrenaline Power no longer fills his passive>He's also a trial character nowLAME! It was so fun to find such an option for Jiren, and I was hoping they'd just nerf how long the DoT lasts to contain him. I feel this is the shortest reign of terror in Squadra too, I don't think anyone else fell off this fast.
>>581235815>12that is NOT the chest of a 12 year old.
>>581237116>Chi-Chi is a normal human motherShe isn't, she's the superhuman daughter of the superhuman repented warlord Gyumao.>Chi-Chi is right about not wanting her child fighting intergalactic warlordsNo, she isn't because of the her child doesn't fight, the warlords will come to earth, kill everyone and rip her guts out in front of said child before slowly killing him too or vice versa, exactly like how Freeza just tortured Gohan and used him as a chew toy in Fuktasu No F.>Muh realismI don't care that it's realistic that she's wrong, she's still wrong.>She's entirely justifiedNo, she isn't, again, she's wrong.>if she comes offNo, she is factually irrational.
>>581237164By Dragon Ball standards, Chi-Chi is the most "human" character (tied with Yamcha) in a series where the characters eventually becomes so desensitized that they treat death like a minor inconvenience. That's despite her being raised as a naive country hick.
>>581237116It being understandable that she freaks out =/= her being right about Gohan not fighting.
>>581238136>By Dragon Ball standards, Chi-Chi is the most "human" character (tied with Yamcha)No, she isn't, she literally has the most fantasy and martial art upbringing out of any character outside the literal aliens, demons and arguably Krillin since he was seemingly raised in a temple even if they seemed rather mundane as far as martial art monks go.
>>581237116>She's entirely justified even if she comes off as irrational.Is she justified in blaming Goku for it too?
>>581237950>She isn't, she's the superhuman daughter of the superhuman repented warlord Gyumao.Just because she grew up around martial arts doesn't mean she wanted her four-year-old toddler to be on the frontline of interstellar warfare. She's still a human, stronger than most humans, but still a human. Wanting better, safer, and more stable lives for your children than the one you had is a universal parental instinct.>No, she isn't because of the her child doesn't fight, the warlords will come to earth, kill everyone and rip her guts out in front of said child before slowly killing him too or vice versaPassing the defense of the planet onto a traumatized 9-year-old is a failure of the adults (Goku, Piccolo, etc), not a failure of Chi-Chi for trying to shield him from it. Expecting a mother to happily hand her kid over to a death match is entirely unnatural, even in a sci-fi universe.>exactly like how Freeza just tortured Gohan and used him as a chew toy in Fuktasu No FGohan got weak because peace was supposed to be achieved. The only reason Earth was constantly under threat was because Goku kept inviting or attracting cosmic monsters, or letting villains like Vegeta go. Chi-Chi's anger isn't directed at fighting alien warlords in a vacuum; it's directed at the fact that her husband's lifestyle is what keeps putting a giant target on their family's back.>No, she is factually irrational.Chi-Chi is a caricature of the overbearing, Asian tiger mom dialed up to 11 for comedic effect. Treating her like a "factually irrational" strategic military liability misses the joke: she is the only normal human anchor in a world completely unhinged by magic and aliens.
>>581238136>That's despite her being raised as a naive country hick.She was raised as a martial artist too. In Buu saga Goten says that she trained him too so she didn't completely abandon it, she's just not too interested in it.
>>581238136>Chi-Chi is the most "human" characterThat's quite literally Bulma.
>>581238341That's only because Chi-Chi's character (at least at first) was inspired by Princess Iron Fan back when Dragon Ball started out as a Journey to the West parody.>>581238619Of course not, the Saiyan Arc was beyond Goku's control. If he hadn't fought, everyone would have died, including Gohan. And that's also the point with this scene, she's clearly in the wrong but grief and panic don't need to make any logical sense. She's acting as a mother whose worst nightmare just came true.>>581238895I would say it's Yamcha who is the most "human" character, followed by Chi-Chi and then Bulma tied with Krillin because Yamcha has the most realistic chatacter development and reactions to the situation. Up until the Saiyan arc, Yamcha has always been the most brave and reckless of the Z-Fighters as he was willing to step up to fight the Saibaman in Krillin's place, but after he died and came back to life, Yamcha became more nervous about fighting and when Frieza invaded Earth, he was the only fighter who was terrified at the idea of dying again. It also hit him hard after he nearly got killed by Gero prompting him to retire.
>>581238814>She didn't want something so she's right to be suicidially dumb about something.So she is indeed not a normal human.>Making sure Gohan is defenseless and hamstringing him is 'trying to shield him'No, it's being retarded and delusional.>You only have a choice between 'happily hand the kid over to a death match' and 'Just make sure the kid is as weak as possible and keep him in the house waiting for said warlords to come slaughter you'You're retarded.>*random explanation for why Gohan is weak*Cool, still shows what would have happened if Chichi got her way at best.Chichi's anger is retarded and suicidal.>The jokeThe joke is that she's wrong and being suicidially hysterical and should be laughed at or ignored.>normal humanShe isn't one, her dad was literally a magical warlord and she was a princess living on a magic mountain with a magic helmet that she used to kill dinosaurs.
>>581240281>That's only because Chi-Chi's character (at least at first) was inspired by Princess Iron Fan back when Dragon Ball started out as a Journey to the West parody.I know. So what? That's still what she is.>I would say it's Yamcha who is the most "human" character,He was a desert bandit using martial arts, he's basically your average Journey To The West obstacle of the chapter. Only difference is that in JTTW he'd probably be a wolf demon.
>>581240362>So she is indeed not a normal human.No. She's still a human and the story treats her as such. She never stopped being a human just because she's stronger than others. Same with Mr. Satan despite his insane durability (Toriyama called him the most "human" character). Growing up in a fairy tale does not mean you want your own child to face execution-style alien invasions.>Making sure Gohan is defenseless and hamstringing him is 'trying to shield him'This relies on a false binary: that the only two options are "make your child a frontline super soldier" or "let them sit defenseless and die." Gohan's desire to study and have a normal life is his choice as he grows older and Chi-Chi trying to give her son an education isn't about making him weak; it's about trying to preserve a shred of normalcy in a life completely hijacked by cosmic violence. Blaming her for Gohan losing power later on ignores the fact that Gohan wanted to be a scholar, not a perpetual gladiator.>Chichi's anger is retarded and suicidal.Not really. She isn't advocating for Gohan to sit around and wait to get slaughtered; she is lashing out at the fundamental unfairness that a 4-year-old child is being forced to shoulder the fate of the planet because the adult martial artists (especially Goku) keep dragging him into the crossfire. A mom watching her toddler come home mangled from a death match against grown men isn't calculating geopolitical survival percentages, she's experiencing acute trauma. Dismissing human grief completely misses how drama and character writing works, and is frankly, very idiotic.>You're retarded.No, you.
>>581241517>She's still humanSo not a normal one.>to face execution-style alien invasions.And yet that's what she's demanding and that you say is right instead of giving the kid a fighting chance.>The fact of the situation is a false binaryNo, it isn't, if Gohan didn't fight, everyone dies and then everyone on earth dies alongside Gohan and his mom.>Not reallyYes, really. Again Gohan not fighting gets everyone killed 100% of the time.
>>581241517>She isn't advocating for Gohan to sit around and wait to get slaughteredShe is, she directly say it when someone bring up that fact.>she is lashing out at the fundamental unfairnessNo, she isn't, she's actively being delusional, she once again outright says it when the Z Fighters or Gohan confront her on it during her hysterics.>traumaThat's not what Toriyama wrote at all. Also someone grieving doesn't suddenly make them right, it just explain WHY she's wrong.
>>581203492>The question is the eventual new Vegeta, would he get SSG-SSB-UE? SS-SSB-UE?If the anime keeps Blue Evolved, it can be Base, Blue, Blue Evolved, Ultra Ego.
>>581192285>>581237585Nico SEXO
>>581238136Chichis dad is a 10 foot tall barbarian that could fistfight battle tanks. She wore a helmet that could shoot lasers and send spinning blades that could cut dinosaur heads off. There's nothing normal about her.
>>581240281The fact you believe Chichi is more normal than Bulma tells me you're retarded.
>>581242848Nta, but Bulma is a nympho who fucked a guy that murdered children and blew up planets.Chichi is pretty normal as an adult. As a kid she's abnormal, but what does she do that is abnormal as an adult?
>>581243514Chichi is abnormal even as an adult.
>>581243667Okay but how? The question was how, I wasn't asking for you to restate the same idea like a fucking chatbot.
>>581237585I knew some girls in junior high who were that developed. wreaked havoc on my tween libido.
>>581243514So what? Bulma's personality is still relatively realistic. There exist real women who love men who do/have done fucked up shit.
>>581241771>So not a normal one.And? She's still a normal human in the context of the cast and the story treats her as such just like Mr. Satan is a normal human despite his insane durability. And by their world's standards, they're the most normal human characters in the cast. If I say "you win" will it help you sleep tonight, even when you know you're just autistically arguing for the sake of your self perceived ego...?>And yet that's what she's demanding and that you say is right instead of giving the kid a fighting chance.She is. Goku is also right that they need Gohan or there won't be an Earth where he can become a scholar. Both can coexist.>Yes, really. Again Gohan not fighting gets everyone killed 100% of the time.And Chi-Chi is also right about the unfairness of dragging Gohan into the mess, both can coexist. Characters like Chi-Chi exist precisely to inject messy, irrational human friction into a world of flying gods and exploding planets. If every character acted with perfect, emotionless tactical alignment to the plot's existential threats, the series would just be a series of military logbooks instead of a human drama story about a very weird family.
>>581243959Generally women aren't down to fuck the guy who caused the deaths of their lover and most of their friends, and nearly destroyed the planet they live on. But also, women like Chichi exist, people who defend the innocence and protect their kids even if it's to the detriment of everything around them.
>>581244082>women like Chichi exist, people who defend the innocence and protect their kids even if it's to the detriment of everything around them.Those women don't have children who are Saiyan hybrids with the potential to become the strongest being on earth.
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>>581244239Even if they did they wouldn't be inclined to just going "Alright my son who is barely a toddler and couldn't even go to elementary school, time to train to beat up two adult men in the primes of their life who are both several times stronger than you".Like, what you're describing is ABNORMAL behavior. Any mother that did that would have their kid taken by social services.
>>581212030>what was your reaction upon seeing ssg for the first time?"This looks so uninspired. It's literally Kaioken but skinnier and with a lighter red shade."It grew on me over time though, ngl.
>>581244525They would be inclined if they were Saiyan hybrids with the potential to become the strongest being on earth.
>>581244630No they wouldn't, no normal person thinks toddlers should be fighting grown men. Chichi's reactions are very normal for a concerned parent, because shit like that doesn't matter. Gohan is her son, and Gohan's big interests aren't fighting, it's studying.
>>581244525Chichi wanted to keep Gohan back from fighting even if meant the entire earth, herself AND Gohan included, died. That's insanity, not rationality.
>>581242386And Mr. Satan is a fraud with insane durability who can somehow survive casual strikes and being tossed around by powerful fighters like Trunks, Cell, and Majin Boo. That never stopped Mr. Satan from being a normal human in the eyes of Toriyama, so what are you trying to say...?
>>581244864Gohan was not a fucking toddler. He was a child, a Saiyan hybrid who's proven himself more capable than even the adults on more than one ocassion.
>>581245025This is a completely normal bout of irrational anger actually.Her husband, who she has seen for all of about a month since Gohan was 4 (and he is 6~7 in that image), just came back and announced that he is going to take her son to train to fight MORE monsters. For the THIRD time.Her husband that doesn't work, that isn't even around that much, and this specifically is irrational, which is why after she calms down and talks it out she agrees with it (and later again when Goku leaves to train Gohan again later in the arc), but it not abnormal or irrational to not want your son to go out and fight monsters that kill people! Like you people sound deranged honestly, you sound like you've never met another human being in your life.>>581245116During the Saiyajin arc he basically is. He's 4, 5 by the time the Nappa and Vegeta arrive, but that's still absurd.Goku was 12~13 when he first fought in a tournament, a controlled environment, he was over three times older than Gohan at the start of the Saiyajin arc.And again, you people are IRRATIONAL, because you can't conceptualize that a mother wouldn't want her son to be harmed. You only think in fucking power levels and feats or some dumb shit. This is sociopathic.
>>581245507No person like Chichi exists, so yeah, you're right about that.
>>581245592People like Chichi exist everywhere, the most common trope about a mother in fiction is an overprotective one, that doesn't want her son to leave the nest as it were. Because that's common, there's a lot of fear about one's child getting into danger, especially one that isn't even a teenager, one that couldn't even go to elementary school like Gohan.
>>581245507Expressing concern over her own son is one thing, but that wasn't what Chichi was doing. She went full on cunt mode yammering on about Gohan's academics even at the expense of earth and Gohan's own fucking life. No earth, no academics. Chichi wasn't being realistic there at all and Toriyama didn't treat the scene as if it was to be taken seriously which is why he had Goku backhand her into a fucking tree immediately after.
>>581245719Overprotectiveness =/= being willing to have everyone and everything around you be wiped out, including the one you're claiming you want protected. That's not normal.
>>581245507>Like you people sound derangedThat's Chi-Chi.
>>581245805Yeah because she was upset, I just explained that.You know what, I'm done, this is clearly something abnormal happening in the general. Here's my assessment. >>581245805>>581245919>>581246028All of you self-inserted as Gohan. That's it.
>>581245507>you can't conceptualize that a mother wouldn't want her son to be harmed. You only think in fucking power levels and feats or some dumb shit. This is sociopathic.So was Goku a sociopath for wanting Gohan to fight? Is this really the hill you wanna die on?
>>581246103>I realize my own argument is fucking retarded and I'm tired of people calling it out for being retarded so I'm done!Okay, bye. Retard.
Do you recommend getting the Kakarot DLCs? The 2nd Season Pass (Bardock, 23rd Budokai, and EoZ) is 50% off.
>>581249210ACK
>>581217465there is difference between wanting the show to actually show off some of the brutality of the combat and wanting the show to be nothing but gore
Not gonna lie my issue with ChiChi is I simply don't find her all that compelling or interesting of a character. But honestly that's just par for the course as far as shounen love interests go. Chichi just has the debuff of not being as hot. her reactions are realistic, but i'm not reading dragonball for realistic reactions i'm here for the fights, kind of like. I dunno how people are with skylar in breaking bad I guess
>>581219489blame one piece and most importantly naruto, i stopped watching both when the "filler" wasn't "non-canon story made to let the anime catch up" but "in this 20 minutes episode, 18 minutes will be flashbacks of previous episodes"
>>581251347Didn't dragonball get pretty bad about that too, though? It wasn't recaps, granted. But Goku versus Frieza was famously bloated to all shit
>>581251347>"in this 20 minutes episode, 18 minutes will be flashbacks of previous episodes"You now remember the Sasuke-Itachi flashback that they played fifty times throughout Naruto Shippuden's anime run.
>>581249538BoG and RoF are both trash, but the rest of the DLCs are better than the base game.
>>581249710I would like a saiyan movie full of essencia personally, but yeah less is more. When Hollywood makes their dragon ball Z movie I know they're going to make it edgy as shit
>>581252728>When Hollywood makes their dragon ball Z movieoh dear god, stop giving me such terrible thoughts
Guys that already happened. It was so bad it sparked Toriyama keeping Battle of Gods from becoming Toeislop.
fucks with me to see people talk about as if Tien was done dirty or that he had a downfall like the motherfucker didn't have literally just the 22nd budokai and was immediately irrelevant the second it ended. Dude was getting his ass beat by drum next arc only for Goku to oneshot him. Tienfags live on the copium provided from the shin kikoho and nothing else
>>581252102I mean they come with the Switch version by default so that's no problem for me. Not playing them yet to have any semblance of challenge in the main story (which even in Hard mode isn't really hard once I got the hang of attacking and dodging).
>>581242252Sparking Zero treats SSBE more like the manga's power up for some reason, it's a passive boost to SSB rather than its own form even if it has SSBE's eyes and aura. Would be weird if SSBE is its own form ONLY for Super-Late Vegeta
>>581242252>>581260413Also if the GP anime keeps SSBE it will keep SSBKK too, and it would be even weirder if the new Vegeta (Super) gets SSBE as its own form now but the new Goku (Super) doesn't get SSBKK as its own form too
>>581260413>Sparking Zero treats SSBE more like the manga's power up for some reasonBecause they really wanted to keep the symmetry between Goku and Vegeta and make it the equivalent to Blue Kaioken, but these version won't really be symmetrical anyway
>>581261539we straight up saw SSBKK in the previews of u6v7 didn't we? I don't think we're getting perfect blue
>>581220560The literal definition of filler is simply anything that isn't adapting manga panels. It isn't necessarily all bad, and often it isn't even done solely to stretch time, but it is what it is.In the context of DBS it's more complicated because the anime isn't an adaptation, so filler is presumed to be anything that isn't from Toriyama's napkin, the contents of which we can only try to reverse engineer based on some evidence. It can get into circular reasoning but most filler is still quite obvious.
>>581235254>blames her for Gohan not living up to his full potential i.e. "CHADhan" and encouraging him to study (contrary to what fans think, Chi-Chi didn't force Gohan to become a scholar, he wanted to become one by his own volition)This is because of Toei filler where it really is exactly like that. Right up until the Cell Games, there is tons of filler where Gohan tries to train and wants to be a fighter, and Chi-Chi is yelling at him that he isn't allowed to and has to study instead. Toei completely misrepresented both Gohan's and Chi-Chi's characters and raped their perception forever.
>>581261941I'm talking about DBSGP not DBSB. And since perfected Blue is the default by the time Moro appears I'm pretty sure even if they don't use SSBKK for that arc they wouldn't bother properly introducing the concept of perfected blue, at best you could see how their auras disappear before fighting like in the manga but they wouldn't lose time explaining it
>>581265498Given they're going out of their way to remaster super, I'm fairly sure they're going to stick to toei canon and just use BE and BKK. It's not like Toei has any incentive to use perfect blue, given you kind of cant sell merch of "blue, but with no aura"
>>581264995Kid Gohan is also like an action hero who fights for justice in the Z movies, he actively picks fights and usually attacks the villains first(to protect some bystanders they were about to hurt or something), while Chi-Chi is trying to keep him back. I understand they got this idea from the Namek arc where Gohan volunteered to go and intervened to save Dende, but this is supposed to be due to Gohan's personal sentiments towards Namekians, and Toei's interpretation of the character diverged in the complete opposite direction of Toriyama's from there.
>>581265927>but this is supposed to be due to Gohan's personal sentiments towards NamekiansHuh? I've never got the idea that Gohan saved Dende because he just personally likes Namekians as opposed to the fact that he hates the frieza force for picking on a bunch of innocent people.
>>581265498>at best you could see how their auras disappear before fighting like in the manga but they wouldn't lose time explaining itThat's basically what DBS Broly did
>>581266104Seeing Piccolo die was one of if not the most traumatic event in Gohan's life up to that point, it's definitely the major factor. It is not to say that he is indifferent to the "evil people killing children" aspect, but he likely would not have intervened for another race at that point.
>>581266393Do you have any actual proof for that other than the circumstantial evidence of it being piccolo in particular who died for him.
>>581266502Reading Dragon Ball should clear up any misconceptions here. Gohan is indeed characterised by his attachment to Piccolo, especially early on. He's even wearing Namekian clothing! Hope this helps.
>>581266647I'm aware that he has a deep love for piccolo, but I don't think you can just blanket state that Gohan wouldn't have stepped in to save children the frieza force were obliterating if they weren't Namekian. That's a pretty massive declarative statement to make and I don't think there's enough evidence to do so.
>>581267004In any case, it only happened that one time with Namekians who Gohan had preestablished affinity for, and Koyama's interpretation of the character turned out incorrect.
>>581265927Gohan quite literally became a superhero, though.
>>581267527That's way later after he went through his whole character arc. And it is hardly played straight the way Toei Gohan was, you may even say Toriyama is making fun of the idea.
>>581252968You know it's coming buddy, with the popularity of Netflix One Piece, and Naruto coming soon. Japan's entertainment industry was set up by Americans and cronies and America is coming to collect.
>>581267173I mean I wouldn't particuarly say Gohan is exactly the most consistently characterized guy in the world, so Toei making an inaccurate guess for where his character would go isn't exactly something I blame them for
Are you guys genuinely arguing whether Gohan would do something if he saw non-green elders and children being brutally murdered before his own eyes or not?
Is toyotaro actually gay? I remembered that ox king drawing of his and it really makes me think.
>>581268309Gohan factually did nothing for a while as Cell was doing that later, so...
>>581268309I mean it's certainly a novel take, I had to know where Anon was coming from
>>581268590I mean he wasn't even there. Trunks, Krillin, Piccolo and Tien were. Trunks and Krillin went to the lab whereas Piccolo and Tien went to track cell dow- uhhh I mean PSYCHOPATHhan the CALLOUS cares not for the lives of petty mortals
>>581267697you're years late
>>581269141?
>>581270236oh I thought you meant when Cell was faffing about eating random cities. Gohan just kinda sitting there and watching while the Cell juniors kicked the shit out of his family was honestly baffling, it's taken way less to set him off before that point and 16's speech didn't really add anything (Gohan does not need to be told it's not a sin to fight for what's right)
>>581270395Gohan getting older and gaining more emotional maturity and self-control was very inconvenient here. As it turns out he was more use to everyone when he was an emotionally incontinent tard... Oh well.
>>581269538I've been watching Shameless and Goku and Bulma spend every episode for the first 4 seasons having sex. Not even exaggerating.
Tenkaichi 3 + Tenkaichi Tag Team is realhttps://youtu.be/pM9C4Tf8ICk>>581269538They're going to do another
>>581270792my main issue is that's not really set up at all. Gohan up to his time chamber training is essentially identical to his namek saga characterization. HTC training is largely skipped over so it's not like there was any precedent for that change in character setup either
>>581245036You dumb or just pretending? Mr. Satan got slapped by a Cell who wasn't trying to kill him, then later almost died because he got shot with a 9mm pistol.Meanwhile, Ox King:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjGRbDfZAnY
>>581270798kid Goku?
>>581268590>did nothingHe snapped and attacked the bad guys hurting innocents just like in Namek.
>Gohan did not snap against Cell until android 16 died>Android 16's color scheme is majority green>Dende's color scheme is also majority greenMaybe he just hates anyone that isn't green. They're green for an amazing reason, after all.
>>581271647It took a LOT of convincing. After he did so, he also preferred torturing Cell like the PSYCHO he is instead of actually saving everyone. He was the least heroic person in behaviour there, aside from maybe Vegeta.
>>581270885>They're going to do anotherConsidering Toei is being turbo nazi about people other than Toriyama even getting recognized in public as employees working in DB products there's a -100% chance they allow one of the biggest jokes in animanga circles to taint DB image again
>Gohan refused to fight Cell unless pushed to his absolute limit>Cell's color scheme is majority greenI'm starting to crack the code.. what does it all mean...
>Great Saiyaman is majority green
>>581271848>convincingNo it didn't? It just took Gohan powering up enough to ignore Cell completely and fight his children, are you under the impression Gohan didn't want his friends and father to stop being hurt???>heroicWho the fuck said anything about being a hero, you don't have to be a hero to see innocent people being killed and wanting it to stop, even people pro-torture (almost) never want innocents getting tortured or killed
>>581272554>are you under the impression Gohan didn't want his friends and father to stop being hurt???He wasn't willing to do anything about it himself until a certain point.>Who the fuck said anything about being a heroIt's Koyama's interpretation of Gohan in any case, the wider discussion was about the divergence between how Gohan is portrayed by Toei vs by Toriyama.
iirc the anime changes it so that Gohan explicitly does attempt to stop the cell juniors but gets stopped by Cell, as opposed to just kinda standing there. Gohan is in general comically passive during the Cell fight. Even after he goes super saiyan 2, after losing his arm he gives up immediately and is about to give up again until goku gives him another pep talk. It's kind of bizzare. Gohan's never been this passive.
>>581272994I will grant some of it comes down to how strong you think SSJ1 Gohan is compared to Cell and the Cell Jrs by extension. If he's stronger he's a total bitch, if he's weaker it's a bit more understandable(but the gap would have been way bigger to Dodoria etc on Namek anyway).
>>581273504Isn't Goku supposed to be capable of handling a cell junior if he wasn't out of stamina post cell fight? ss1 Gohan, who is stronger than Goku, should've been able to smoke a cell junior. Even then, being weaker than his opponent has never stopped Gohan before. Cell doesn't even say he'll stop Gohan from attempting to kill the cell juniors, shit he'd probably let him if it meant him getting angrier.
>>581272665>Gohan didn't want to help his friends and father about to get murdered Okay enough insanity take the you leave keep baiting whatever you want but leave me alone, I'm genuinely repulsed by your post
>>581279129Again, reading Dragon Ball will help you take part in this conversation. It's not really suitable for secondaries going off of TikTok information.
>>581270885Holy shit no fucking way, why isn't this making the numbers? It's what everyone wanted when Tag Team came out, the same concept but in the full Tenkaichi experience
Cut the crap! Is there a new trailer for the tokyo game show or not!?
Is the objective ranking for DBZ pretty much:Frieza > Saiyan > Buu > Cell
>>581283667Yes.
>>581284175Yes.
>>581284175I personally put Saiyan above Frieza. I find it much more tightly paced and the fights near perfect. I think Goku versus Frieza drags pretty hard, even in the manga.
>>581284197Yattaze, atashi mo nicsuu akkun1!
>>581284175No.It's Buu > Frieza > Saiyan >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cell.
>>581284197Any predictions? I remember the last XV getting a story trailer in TGS.
>>581285478More story info would be nice. More gameplay in general would be good too, I just wanna see more of the roster and potential customization.
>>581285478our first trailer was introducing the worldour second was introducing your friends our third was introducing the various races you can bethus our fourth is likely the role the DB characters themselves will be playing and most likely more customiztion and awakening skills we haven't seen yet given they've promised us a trailer every month until release and how customziation is a massive push in this game compared to 2personally, I'm expectig them to introduce the god, the witch, chrona and xeno trunks now that we've seen them, possibly Goku as well given they keep saying they've planned out something unique for him with this game
>>581284175>>581285440Piccolo Jr > King Piccolo > Freeza > Androids > Saiyans > Red Ribbon > Pilaf > Buu
How would you rate xenoverse 2 dlc?
>page 10>4 threads before archivingLIVE
>>581301408More like LIVE Ass Reaction
>>581271826>Maybe he just hates anyone that isn't green. So does Videl dress up in green whenever she wants to get Gohan in the mood?
>>581271826>>581272082>Kefla's hair is green>He just happens to not dodge these attacksGohan...
>>581175412because the second transformation functions as your limit burst
>>581208269>I have been (...) on twitterthat's not cool at all
>>581209371Looks like if the Baki guy tried to make an OC in Toriyama's styke
>>581212030I don't remember
>>581221162I think he'll already be acting as Hakaishin by the time of the frieza black arc in the manga.
>>581231181You decide which artists you follow
>>581246103People don't become insane just because they're upset.
>>581245507>but it not abnormal or irrational to not want your son to go out and fight monsters that kill people!It is when 1: The monsters that kill people are coming either way and your son is The Chosen One and 2: When you don't actually give a shit about the monster part and just care that he won't be there to do his homeschooling arbitrary schedule.
>>581243867Bardock doing the whole 'Zen fighter fighting with his eyes closed' is so cringe.
>>581245507>that a mother wouldn't want her son to be harmed.You were told multiple times that there's a difference between not wanting your son to be harmed and literally wanting to doom the world just because you're having a bout of hysteria and your son WILL be attacked and harmed regardless, just alone and without any way to defend himself once everyone else is dead
>>581249538The first DLCs are basically XP cheats but the others are very good, I love the 23rd one and the daima ones.
>>581252728>When Hollywood makes their dragon ball Z movie I know they're going to make it edgy as shitThey'll make it the usual brown slope they made all capeshit and anime adaptation, just look at Netflix's OP. It's not even edgy, just shit.
>>581251347>, i stopped watching both when the "filler" wasn't "non-canon story made to let the anime catch up" but "in this 20 minutes episode, 18 minutes will be flashbacks of previous episodes"Same.>>581251473DB did the awful 'added peanut gallery reactions' and 'long drawn out shots that just change camera angle for entire minutes'
>>581254520People like lying themselves about 'the earthlings used to matter!' just because they got mutilated against Nappa
>>581264740>so filler is presumed to be anything that isn't from Toriyama's napkin,Not really because it's not an adaptation of it, the napkins are a production document for the anime, not some separate work getting adapted.Filler is only supposed to be about adaptations.
>>581267629>you may even say Toriyama is making fun of the idea.Not really, Toriyama just like Super Sentai and goofy heroes, which are a Sentai Classic. Just look at Gamma 2.
>>581279129Don't bother, it's obviously the Chichi retard trying another angle
>>581285478>Any predictions?Goku will tap Bulma's pussy and we'll get a dating simulator.>>581301408Cute>>581289348Which one?>>581311062Saiyan Goku not just being Bardock is so good.
It's funny how Majin Buu (Pure) and Mazinger Zero are similar.
>>581285478Demon/Glind race reveal
>>581231181Chichi is a nag for much of Z is drawn in an unflattering way. the only people who like her are people who either saw the original series before Z, or are women who identify with her strife.
>>581319524and for much of Z*
>>581314879You're getting into some objective semantics of the term, I'm describing how the word is used in the context of DBS specifically. Shit like Copy Vegeta cleanly fits into the understanding of filler in previous Dragon Ball adaptations.
>>581315207Congrats on replying to a guy who already said he wasn't going to respond 7 hours later.
>>581321337Get madder, retard
>>581321418t. Goku at the Cell Games
>>581321167I don't care how retard misuse the term, they're misusing it and are wrong.
>>581321495A general definition isn't exhaustive, DBS has a unique production process and using the term filler for this specific concept is fine.
>>581321589No, it's not, it's wrong and retarded
>>581321793It's fine and intuitive.
I still hope the white haired Kai isn't Chronoa
>>581321819No. It isn't. It's retarded and wrong.
>>581322172It's apt and fitting
>>581322341Nope, still wrong and retarded, like you.I understand you're mad you got raped over Chichi and Gohan in a row but you have to live with the fact you got raped on that too.
>>581322442Huh? What manner of schizo outburst are you having now?
>>581322502>Being called out made him panic so much he forgot his gimmick.
>>581322667????
>>581313868>>581313960>>581314213Hey congrats on responding to day old posts.You're a nutso spic.
They lied with the new XV3 trailer...
When is it starting?
>>581322702>>581324686>He really can't let it go
>>581327397
Today starts the Tokyo game show, first up is Microsoft xbox starting at 7am to 5pm they'll be showcasing products coming out this year and the nextas far as xeonverse 3 is concerned what you'll likely be seeing is a brief trailer with some new footage rather than a full on one
>>581327413>He thinks he's fooling anyone
Xenoverse 3... forgotten...
https://x.com/kirina_03/status/2100447481838670291good impression
>>581334821the 10th remaster of Battle of Gods is here... this fandom surely knows what to spend their time on
>>581281686Because it's not how BT3 did it so it's not a "true Tenkaichi" game.
>>581284197Nice Special Trailer, FAGETS.
>>581281686PS2 limitations are going to make the project suck a lot harder than it would be under a PC comp.
>>581336338They did have a new trailer but Bandai didn't record it for some reason.
XV3 news, doko?
>>581337992Did anyone take a video of it yet?
>>581337992>The only new thing is seeing CHADza's handsome mugB-B-B-BASED
>>581340797you know I do wonder if frieza's still around in age 1000 or if there's some new galactic tyrant around
>>581281686>why isn't this making the numbers? It's what everyone wanted when Tag Team came outI have never, not even once in my lifetime, asked for a multichar deathmatch or whatever the fuck.TTT was obnoxious to play getting ganged up on by the 2 opponents whenever, and them removing the time stop during specials and ultimates didn't help.
>>581321462kek
In Daipa, how did the dragon turn goku and vegeta into kids when people that are stronger than the dragon have to consent to any wishes used on them first?
>>581350384y-y-you don't understand suddenly the Dragon doesn't need to ask anymore! he's so powerful now he could simply wish Black Frieza away if they wished for it!
>>581350384>>581350573This isn't /dbs/.
>>581350573Daima established you can't make a dark wish, like killing Frieza, on the dragon balls. You'd need the demon world dragon balls, made with dark magic, to wish for death. Even wishes made by evil people were more selfish than evil.
>>581350384you must be lost
>>581350384It's consistent with previous mechanics if the wish is interpreted as beneficial to the target, in which case it can happen even without their consent like removing the bombs from #17 and #18. Idk what Gomah was going on about with black and white magic because that is some nonsense.
>>581354326>It's consistent18 wanted the bomb removed even if she didn't openly admit it. Goku and Vegeta did not want to be turned into children by a midget demon clown.
>>581350384It's explained that the DBs are based on white magic, rather than black magic, therefore a beneficial wish is allowed even if they don't consent, Goma's plan is exactly that, give them a """good""" wish because the balls will allow it, but it's something that will make them less dangerous for him.
>>581357442So would making a wish to turn Moro into a baby goat workIt makes him younger, it's beneficial for him :D
Wait I just realized, the demon realm has three DBs, one per realm but why making three realms? Not even four for the shi/death wordplay or something buddhist or something, just three realms and balls. Then I realized that if the namekians originally made the DBs by taking little pieces off the original "super" DBs like Champa said they must have come to one of the universes where they are found (U7 or U6), found the three balls and taken the pieces.
>>5813503841: This isn't /dbs/2: It's explained that Gomah found a loophole because the ki defense of the Z fighters works like white magic so something that wouldn't count as black magic wouldn't be as easily blocked off. Literally just watch the show.>>581362252As long as the effects on his powers and abilities are marginal like they were for Goku and co.
>>581354326>Idk what Gomah was going on about with black and white magic because that is some nonsense.Gomah mistook ki for white magic because he noticed similar effects and defenses from it and assumed that black magic stuff would be blocked but 'beneficial' stuff wouldn't be blocked as much.Turn out he was right, thought it didn't weaken any of them as much as he thought.
>>581363902>Gomah mistook ki for white magicThis is something demons did multiple times over the course of the show if you noticed. Glorio and Panzy had similar, if less specific, reactions.
>>581362252>>581363726Of course that assuming that Moro doesn't have a better handle on all of this and can actually decide to still reject the spell regardless since he IS a mage himself and Goku and co were largely taken by surprise and had no reason to really think of a counter to de-aging. Similarly to how they just countered the Trio De Danger's poison after seeing it at the exhibition match.
>>581363726Oh man if only we used Yardrat's 4 Dragon Balls to make everyone immune to White and Black Magic get testicular torsion. Because these dragon balls use "BLUE" magic. Give me a break, this franchise should've died 20 years ago.
>>581364809Shut the fuck up.
>>581364913I'll shut up when I get the death certificate of Rechow and Stopwatch. They are eagerly awaiting the same thing from me, so fair is fair.
>>581364809We're really pretending this isn't the same franchise that had shit like the 'Devilmite Beam' that just make you explode if you're not pure hearted, a rabbit that make turn you into a carrot upon touch and fucking Buu's candy beam and absorption? DB always had weird abilities that had specific counters.FFS, the initial counter to telekinesis in this franchise was MATH.>>581365125I have no idea who Stopwatch is and Rechow is just a CaC that does funny combos to me.
>>581364809Man, I'm all for 'DB ignore hax passed a certain treshold' as it's obvious it wouldn't work on MUI Goku or Beerus but I don't get the hostility to introducing a pretty basic magic / ki interaction for once, especially when it justify the plot without actually creating any real long term trouble, it's not even like DB NEVER went there before and Goku and Vegeta were more inconvenienced than really troubled by being de-aged.
>>581364809Tying Pan up and dropping pants, making her watch helplessly as I have my way with Goku in front of her
>>581364809Continue talking.
>>581362252I guess it could? Considering how his powers work I'm not sure he couldn't just eat more and go back to his prime biological state
>>581363726They weren't marginal for Goku and co.We've seen Adulr Vegeta fight that retarded clown on his own better than a squad of 5 characters including SS3 Mini Goku, SS3 Duu, Tamagami #1 and Mini Piccolo.
>>581365710Those that don't have Jesus in their hearts are destined to burn in Hell no matter their intentions in the living world. If you saw how Rechow was actually like on Discord DM's you'd have similar feelings and be mind broken. Let's not forget that all of this started over Shark Tale. You know, that movie about becoming a somebody. Rather than be the friend that sticks by you no matter what, according to him it was better to bash Oscar's fucking skull in and do the same to anyone who disagrees with you.
>>581368102>They weren't marginal for Goku and co.They were since Goku could still easily beat guys way stronger than Dabura with just SSJ1.>betterThat's arbitrary in a team fight, especially since Gomah was just sandbagging because he literally had infinite health.>>581369486>DiscordThat's your problem right there, you should stop using that tranny website.
>>581366750YOU MONSTER
No offense but I still can't believe you burgers call him "Dabura".
>>581372731Dabura would be an acceptable spelling if it was pronounced as in Japanese. But they call him Da Boora...
>>581372731It's his name in most of europe too.
Uhm...Sparkingsisters...? What is this?
>>581376270That hand looks weird
>>581376270>left image is based off of the Broly movie, and they leaned so hard into it that they messed up multiple character models including pic related>right image is from a game that's been shilling Toriyama's involvement since its first teaser, and even goes as far as to give Krillin his eye whites and Piccolo his yellow arms>neither of them give Frieza his pink face
>>581377940>Frieza >pink face
>>581378237Freeza is supposed to have a pink face in his restricted forms.
>>581372731I can't believe some parts of the world call him "Da Brah".
I thought they were going for manga colors now? Freeza should be pink not purple.
>>581377940Are you talking about this?
>>581382372Here's art Toriyama colored. He always gave Freeza pink skin.
>>581381118He's literally called Dabra anon, his name comes from "abrakadabra". Just like his father is called Abra but with the pun of japanese pronouncing Abra as Abura, which means fat
>>581382487Nigga that's not Toriyama's AT ALL. The colouring follows Toriyama's sure but that's not his art
>>581382569which is of course also linked to bibidi, babidi and booit's like poetry it rhymes
>>581382870Woops I confused that for a page from Toriyama's official artbook. It's from a pixiv artist that used the exact colors Tori did though.
>>581382487It's weird that modders even have to do this. Why wouldn't they make a manga palette swap option for most every character in video games? It would take some intern 10 minutes.
>>581384057
>>581382569How long before we get some time fuckery with three villains named Hickori, Dackori, and Dak
>>581384057frieza's case particularly gets me because they took so much inspiration from broly that kid goku's outfit is based off a fucking 2 second redesign from it, while frieza doesn't even have the colors that he has in that movie as an alt much less his main look
>>581384630Probably the next time we get a Babidi related villain. General demons seem named after dishes in Heroes.
>>581384057>It would take some intern 10 minutes.I've spend over 100 hours making canon color palettes in SZ
>>581382569and Beerus' name comes from beer. but we don't call him "Beers". Yamcha instead of Yamucha, Bulma instead of Bloomer. you're fighting a battle that was lost 30 years ago.
>>581389328>that was lost 30 years ago.By you since most of the world pronounce it Dabra.
>>581377940Marketability is the reason. Krillin's eyes and Piccolo's gross arm things aren't really that noticeable. Frieza's pink face is jarring enough to raise a few eyebrows. Hell not only did people complain about it during the Broly movie but some people were and currently are convinced that Frieza's all pink like that because he was young/a baby. Kibito won't be blue if he's in the game either btw, and that's also why both the games and anime (even the ones that try to be Toriyama-accurate) are so damn inconsistent with Bulma and Trunks' hair colors. Sparking Zero will probably give Frieza his pink skin back in a future update.
>>581389328BEERus mostly works, it keeps "beer". Yamucha and Yamcha are both equally valid based on how japanese works. Bulma is Toriyama's own spelling, he decided it in chapter 1 so there's nothing to add here and it's still NOT just the japanese pronounciation or it would be "Buruma".If you wanna pretend like ignoring the names' intended meaning makes them more accurate or something you better start calling the green guy Pikkoro, the bug guy Seru, the lizard Huriiza, etc, etc, just like you call Dabra "Dabura".Or you could just admit it's inconsistent and the only reason you use Dabura is because you are used to it, even if it's bullshit.
>>581372731I can forgive that. I cannot forgive "Fasha".
Where's the trailer? I was promised a trailer.
If you call him Krillin you're not going to get strange looks If you call him Kuririn you're going to get some strange looks If you call him Clearin you're going to get a lot of strange looks
>>581395621Honestly my issue with Kuririn is just that it rolls off the tongue really badly in English. It just feels annoying to say.
>>581395621I call him Kurilin because the name uses both kuri (chestnut) and shaolin.
>>581395621>If you call him Kuririn you're going to get some strange looksThat has never happened to me and half the subs online call him that.
>>581391449in later official artwork they spell her name as Blooma.
>>581396230Okay weeb
>>581391449If Yamcha works because of how Japanese spelling works, then so does Dabura. exact same situation. Yumcha is a type of tea.
If you call her anything other than Bulma you're a fucking faggot.
>>581397762blooma...bloomers...
>>581396696No, retard, because that's a japanese (and chinese) word, of course it follows japanese rules. "Abracadabra" isn't.
>>581393701Something was shown at TGS, but Bamco hasn't posted it yet, the only thing we've seen was that new shot of Frieza. Kinda reminds me of the first Sparking Zero trailer, which Bamco STILL hasn't posted on their channel.
>>581396598You're in a weeb thread, weeb.
>>581395780>in englishWhat the fuck are you talking about? Just pronounce it how it's written, don't make up vowels like you anglospeakers usually do
>>581398103Is that so? Odd how none of the influencers even bothered to talk about it, those fuckers usually can't wait to hop on social media and start lying their asses off about what they saw
>>581398553It's not the vowels, though? I just dislike how the two Rs make it flow a bit less than krillin.
Is it just me or is now harder to find "announcements" of stuff in game shows. sometimes I miss the event and just want a quick recap on what's there but everytime I google, it's maybe 1 or 2 but they're outdated or maybe they're talking about something completely unrelated. like wtf why is it so hard to find shit now.
>>581398103Time to make up the most unrealistic expectations possible. Chronoa's big boob form is in and she has INSANE jiggle physics bros, I know, my dad works at Dimps
>>581400304>like wtf why is it so hard to find shit now.Indians at google decided that if search engines can't find shit anymore, you'll do more searches per search and thus see more ads.
>>581398553He's right, you know. Ku-ri-rin does not roll off the tongue well for most westerners. A lot of people are going to add an extra N or reverse the last two syllables trying to say it.
What's an anime change you love? What's an anime change you hate?
>>581402120>a lot of westerns would struggle saying "ri rin" and would say "rin rin" or "rin ri"No, a lot of westerns aren't that braindead.
>>581403681Videl not being called Beedel or whatever
I've been skimming through Dragon Ball Kai and am I the only one noticing the unnatural cuts? It's REALLY fucking bad during raditz but I went through some Frieza episodes and it's so obvious when there was suppose to be a much longer scene but it just completely skims parts.
>>581403681A lot of fights are done a hell of a lot better in the anime than the manga. Only really in the latter half of the series, but Anime perfect cell and of course majin vegeta are done way better in the anime. The anime also hard fucked dragonball's reputation with its atrocious pacing in namek and people will eternally see it as "that show where people spend 10 years charging attacks"
>>581403681>What's an anime change you love?Stuff like Chichi and Goku's wedding adventure and Goku's filler adventures through Bruce Lee / Jackie Chan movies.>What's an anime change you hate?All the constant peanut gallery nonsense and stretching scenes pointlessly.
name me ONE eng dub moment you prefer more. going with the easy pick but SS3 Goku.
>>581403745Son, I fucking studied linguistics. It's not a natural flow. Stop being such a weeb.
>>581404631family kamehameha in broly the second coming
>>581404631All of it.
>>581404631Nothing
>>581404586>Goku's filler adventures through Bruce Lee / Jackie Chan movies.what episodes
>>581407649whoops
KEEP FIGHTING
>>581404768English linguistics? Perhaps. Thank god this shitty language isn't the native language of most of the world.
>>581408756Yeah, there's a reason it's the hardest to learn.
>>581407493I don't remember the numbers but like the mini arc where he helps a kid and his dad's martial art school in some tournament after the dad got wounded.
>>581404631>eng dub momentlollmao, even
>>581404768>Stop being such a weeb.You're an even bigger weeb by virtue of being in denial about it
Forgot if I ever posted this one
>>581398651Well it's in Tokyo and I guess none of them are in tokyo right now.Or they were and the trailer was just so unremarkable that they didn't care to hype it up.
Hey, is Glorio in xenoverse 3? I liked his lighting powers, now that I think on it, demons are long lived, he and every body else from Daima are surely still alive in age 1000, right? I wonder if Panzy has grown up by then she was only 84, by end of Z she's 94, by age 1000 she's 225
Oh shithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss6Y24-QUJo
>>581408898didn't even know about it damn maybe I should go through the original dragon ball anime. there seems to be a LOT of material in that that's just completely nobody knows about like young master roshi episode
>>581409683We have basically zero idea of what the roster is like in xeno 3. We don't even know if Daima is basegame. It probably is but we don't *know*
>>581409821Wait nevermind i'm retarded we saw Arinsu, so Daima is in. Still nothing on Glorio specifically, though.
>>581409742You probably should, it's pretty neat.
>>581409741The T3-like layout makes me nostalgic but yeah I can see why they didn't it, look at how many fucking characters are in the game
>>581403681>What's an anime change you love?I always liked Satan ripping the photo he took from Buu on the floor in half after fully befriending him. Sure in the manga it's completely a gag scene with zero implications afterwards, but I still like that addition.>What's an anime change you hate?That bit where SS3 Goku faints and Vegeta "fights" Kid Buu for a bit when they are supposed to be more equal. Goku is also supposed to prevent Vegeta from fighting at all before he brings up needing to charge his ki for a minute.
>>581404631>NOW'S YOUR CHANCE!The scene where Teen Gohan kills cell lives in my headand for vegeta it's his Majin Vegeta speech to Goku at the world tournament, but goku stole the show with the ki blast charge and THIS part lives in my head as well, basically all of the original funimation/toonami DBZ En Dub buu saga, it was amazing, I was around 10-12 at the time and MAN, I never saw anything like it, nothing came close, until MGS3, the only story that gripped me so completely I remember it all by heart YEARS later.
>>581404631>You are missing the point.
>>581404631Oh, I almost forgot to mention Final Flash vs Cell.Honorable mention to tien being badass for a moment and attacking cell with the tri-beam, telling 18 to run for it.Trunks vs Cell in his Super Trunks form, slicing frieza into bits, and the scene where he blasts Vegeta away out of desperation to stop cell.Goku's I am the hope of the universe speech, his entire SS transformation scene, and where he kills frieza, side note, I love doing an imitation of Linda Young's frieza when I play the games, SS3Ku using that point-blank blast to kid buu's head, the scene where their pushing the spirit bomb and they all yeal "DO IT!" gets me, majin vegeta's atonement also hits hard, tears flow, Trunks killing 17/18 and Cell, Yamcha and krillin attacking kid buu in otherworld, the scene where the Z-fighters keep getting up and attacking cell as he tries to push back the Kamehameha, Teen Gohan's ss2 transformation, there's more but I'm a bit wound up now
>how rude!
How many of you are hoping for some fit with a cape that isn't a sentai suit, Piccolo gi or Trunks's CC jacket with a cape attached like Ace's was.Also it low key pisses me off we don't get anime or some kind of artwork for the CACs of this game like we got with at least the first game, I don't think they even bothered for 2 given how fast it came out
>>581404631https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKkYKK8YTZo
>>581414756I want a red cape like Tetsuo's from Akira but I know it won't happen
>>581415135Hey, there's a lot of custom options in this game and original fit, you may get it we even have customized accessories now, the CAC is wearing a blue version of Dr.Gero's stupid hat
Has Masako Nozawa played any other evil characters? I really love her voice for Goku Black and Bardock
>>581416141If its a solo accessory then fine
>>581382569They give his dad the "Dabura" treatment in the Daima dub for consistency.
Trailer's out. Complete nothingburger, just a montage of the players repeating the same attacks as a bunch of characters I can see why the Ecelebs didn't talk about ithttps://x.com/guernicass4/status/2100774923581223324
Hickory Dickory Dock, I gave the Supreme Kai of Time my
Our SUPERheroes.
>>581425052Android 19 confirmed though. It does make me wonder how many "new" characters they're adding?
>>581425776..Except the jobber in the back.
>>581425052>Android race added>Every other race can do the Android attacks anywayUhh.
>>581426027It's about the traits and transformations
>>581425891...but enough about Grand Elder Guru.
Release date for DBS Beerus: Oct 11https://x.com/DB_anime_info/status/2100781880219992168
>>581428159It's gonna flop.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HufbtLejvaE
Goku will instant transmission into your CaCs bath like this in XV3https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnfthIhmnTE
Time flow faster
>>581434040Bathing with Goten...
Classic Dragon Ball>Dragon Ball Kanzenban v01-34, Neko Majin v01 (Raw Scans) (Japanese) - 34 volumeshttps://nyaa.si/view/1933107>Dragon Ball English Kanzenban Project (Currently Volume 13 of 34)https://bsky.app/profile/tuxedotime.bsky.social>Dragon Ball release chronologyhttps://www.kanzenshuu.com/wiki/Dragon_Ball_release_chronologyDragon Ball DVDs - Color Corrected Dragon Box>Dragon Ballhttps://nyaa.si/view/2122084>Dragon Ball Zhttps://nyaa.si/view/2057751>Dragon Ball Z Movieshttps://nyaa.si/view/2059537>Dragon Ball GT https://nyaa.si/view/1838093One more bonus>Dragon Ball - Small Batch [16mm HD Scans] (around $5,000 in scanning costs for these DB episodes)https://nyaa.si/view/2080128>Dragon Ball Z Kai (New dub and Kenji Yamamoto OST)https://nyaa.si/view/2006263>Dragon Ball Music Libraryhttps://nyaa.si/view/1263388Dragon Ball Z 4K scan>Dragon Ball Z Movie 7 Super Android 13 - Reel 1 (35mm 4K Scan) https://nyaa.si/view/1869569>Dragon Ball Z (DBZ) - Movie 9 Bojack - Reel 3 - 4K Scan https://nyaa.si/view/1761204Coming Soon>Dragon Ball Z Fusion Reborn 4K Scan https://x.com/nappasanNotes>Tankōbon or Kanzenban?Kanzenban is bigger than the Tankobon and have better quality paper.>DBZ or DBZ Kai?Dragon Ball Kai takes the actual footage from the Dragon Ball Z TV series (which ran in Japan from 1989 to 1996), remasters it in high definition, and cuts out an average of half the material (generally “filler”). A new musical score has been provided by Kenji Yamamoto, and a new English dub.>Are DBZ Movies originally Full Screen or Widescreen?Toei originally animated the movies in a 4:3 aspect ratio. (Just like DB, Dbz, and GT) Then they were cropped to a 16:9 aspect ratio in order to fit the screens on movie theaters
>>581443760Modern Dragon Ball>Dragon Ball Z Battle of Gods (神と神) (2013)https://nyaa.si/view/1420876>Dragon Ball Z Resurrection F (復活の｢F｣) (2015)https://nyaa.si/view/1422758>Dragon Ball Super (2015 - 2018)https://nyaa.si/view/1493140>Dragon Ball Super Broly (ブロリー) (2018)https://nyaa.si/view/1954784>Dragon Ball Super manga https://nyaa.si/view/1965793>Dragon Ball DAIMA (2024)https://nyaa.si/view/2005548Coming Soon>Dragon Ball Super (2026)
>>581409741No thanks, I'm fine with the one that upgrades the roster slot size (available right now btw).This T3 style is a downgrade imo.https://gamebanana.com/mods/705023
>android 16 rips his arms off to attack>John 1000 can just fire ki blastsThat's kind of bullshit. It should be an android exclusive move that makes you rip your arms off too. It's just a basic ki barrage without the gimmick.
>Kuriza will never be canon>Kuriza will never come to Earth seeking revenge >Kuriza will never train under Krillin>Kuriza will never be adopted by Krillin's family>Kuriza will never fight along side Trunks and the other kids as a warrior of EarthIt hurts man. It hurts. There should have been a Next Gen story with the kids.
>>581425052>missed the chance to have the androids donutsteal remove their arms tooshamefull androids would have been better than bio androids
>>581445156Considering it was already usable by everyone in XV2, it makes more sense to do a second version like Slug Ult that has different animation if you're the right race
>>581409741>>581410406Its not the same until the roster all has 2D portraits instead of these stiff models standing in the same pose.
>>581441975stop posting trunks
Here's a real leakAt New York comic con a new more recent build of the game will be available to the publicThe new trailer will introduce the awakenings for the android,majin and freiza racesthere will be day 1 DLCAvoid Slopllays clickbaiting ass
Why are some people saying that the XV3 trophy leak “confirms” that there are 8 races in total?
>>581455185And 7 are inferior
>>581455185>>581456497>8 raceswhat did i miss?
Goofy ass hover hand flicking ear rings that don't exist.
>>581457219>human>saiyan>namekian>frieza>majin buu>human-type android
>>581459376that makes 6 and the anon is talking about 8
>>581462034Yeah, IDK why.
https://x.com/BandaiNamcoSEA/status/2100849954613043272That seems pretty explicit to me.
I find it interesting that Toriyama's 'good kings' are never warrior kings, they're always either glorified local benevolent gang leaders or they're just very good and respected administrators. The true 'Warrior Kings' are always either failures like King Vegeta or people who need to get scolded back on the right path like Gyumao.Then there's Freeza, the worst of the worst, who run his empire like a land shark business.
>>581466097I think the main thing that breaks this is kinda shin. He (was) king of the universe but also turbo weak and kind of incompetent. Could never be my GOAT King Kai
bane
>>581466310Kaioshins aren't kings, they're part of DB's celestial bureaucracy. They're basically senior management / an executive while Enma is a senior clerk and Kaio is middle management.The actual nobility and kings are the Angels and Zeno IMO.
>>581466586im talking about in buu saga specifically where shin was on top of said hierarchy, hence (was)
>>581466632I mean even then, he was part of a group of 4 and was the newbie. The whole 'Only 1 Kaioshin per universe' thing in Super was mostly a narrative shortcut for the TOP.
I personally hated all of the swearing in English dubbed Kaihttps://youtu.be/AtzXsyiKxes
I will never get over how Toriyama accidentally added extra slander and incompetence to shin by having him never once bring up or warn anyone about Buu's absorption powers because Toriyama hadn't thought to give buu that power until buutenks
>>581467742In his defense, Buu is so bullshit, it's hard to remember to name every single one of his powers you have to watch out for.
can someone explain to me when the next season of the mainline Dragon Ball anime will come out, you know, where Dragon Ball Super left off
>>581467742It's a shame they didn't show off Buu's absorption power by having him absorb Chi Chi and proceed to tit fuck Gotenks.
>>581467823Buu's absorbtion is arguably the most important thing to remember because it's how buu killed strong kai and fat kai, though. Who were both stronger than him.
>>581467894We do not have a release date for galactic prisoner other than it's probably coming out some time next year, iirc.
>>581468353cant wait, altho ill probably not end up watching it because these days i always save those types of things for 'the right moment', which never comes because work bullshit and life bullshit
>>581468425I like watching these things weekly, myself. being a part of the zeitgeist and watching people do speculation and autism fight over dumb shit is half of the experience of big releases like this. Though, I think i'll stick to this thread over /a/ due to permanent dbs brainrot over there
>>581468138>Who were both stronger than him.That's a stretch, he was still beating their asses.
>>581468529>Though, I think i'll stick to this thread over /a/ due to permanent dbs brainrot over thereTried to talk about Daima on /a/ while it was airing and it was all just scat and cuck spamming and was outright told 'Yeah, this isn't the place for this' when someone took a break from spamming to tell me.So yeah, don't bother.
>>581468693why do they hate dragon ball so much on /a/?
>>581468760I don't think they do, it's just so overly popular everyone is in these threads
>>581468760I don't think they even care about DB, it's just a weird generation that socialized themselves in that cesspool and just act like that now.Which is why they just moved to the Death Battle general on /co/ (which shouldn't exist but /dbs/ nonsense somehow always get protected by jannies) and act EXACTLY the same about everything they talk about despite having 0 connection with DB.
>>581468950>despite having 0 connection with DB.Well it has the same acronym...
>>581468565We only have the anime filler that shows off the fight, but only really buff kai was having an issue with him. grand kaioshin just kind of gets in a couple of attacks and is instantly absorbed, though in those attacks he seemed to be having very little trouble with buu. Im not really sure why kid buu absorbed buff kai at all, he just kind of did. He had much less trouble with him than super buu did gotenks
>>581468950I swear /dbs/ is an Epstein-connected psyop but I can't prove it.
>>581469467I genuinely think it's fairly natural. The thread even when dbs was airing was fairly memey, I think the issue is that they wanted to keep the joke going despite no new material to actually make jokes so the entire content of the thread just became the "jokes" and weird culture that self sustained itself with no connection to dragonball
>>581469467Unlikely since there's no Yuri but Israel is probably involved.
>>581469670>so the entire content of the thread just became the "jokes" and weird culture that self sustained itself with no connection to dragonballDon't forget there were clearly kids and younger teenagers in the threads who clearly soaked up the culture and literally can't turn it off anymore to this day.
>>581466097>who need to get scolded back on the right path like GyumaoWhat path? Aside from OG DB filler, he has no kingdom or people to lead.>>581467623It can get pretty try-hard sometimes, to the point that Nicktoons' censorship is actually a welcome improvement.https://youtu.be/QX0bwFN-K9w
>>581473067Ocean did it best
>>581469683What is this schizo babbling about?
>>581479837>Me being retarded make you a schizo
It's interesting how Saiyans are basically living extinction events and yet are still people at the end of the day so they just treat what they do like a human would treat their job.
>>581482376I mean it isnt' exactly difficult to be a living extinction event in this setting. Demon King Piccolo was that and he had like 1/7th of the power level of raditz or something like that
>>581482510>I mean it isnt' exactly difficult to be a living extinction event in this setting.It is, we just follow the guys who are and their opponents.
>>581483171I mean not even that. The average saibaman can easily wipe out an entire planet powerwise. DKP is the lower bound for "can wipe out an entire city easily" and we've seen a bajillion mooks above that level. We can get even sillier with this if you want to bring up the fact that a saiyan saga piccolo can blow up the moon.
>>581482216Look I don't care about your backstory, if you're not going to explain yourself you should fuck off back to /dbs/
>>581484303>Look I am extremely upset and retarded so I will just throw a tantrum instead of learning to read
kys luigi
>>581483467>The *average creature strong than anything on earth, Piccolo included*Doesn't seem very average then, especially since we only ever saw like 7 of them.
I don't care about your backstory. Unless you're the tail puller, that just gives me more reason to stop you.
>>581484303>>581484759>Retard suddenly shit up the thread and try parroting what people said about him last time as a dunk>Get humiliated>Start screaming about nintendoGet new material.
>>581484797Earth was explicitly brought up to be an especially weak planet, which is why Goku was sent there. Being stronger than earth therefore isn't much of a litmus test for the rest of the setting.
>>581485020Given that literally everyone except Namekians were weaker than Saiyans and Freeza's Forces, that change literally nothing.
>>581482510>I mean it isnt' exactly difficult to be a living extinction event in this setting.If everyone could easily become a living extinction event, nobody would be one because they'd all be relative to each others in power and mass murder would be the same as it is for us.Getting stronger in DB isn't particularly easier.
>>581485173Who exactly is this literally everyone? We don't exactly see very many aliens outside of the ones you listed. there's PuiPui and Yakon,I guess.
>>581485410>Who exactly is this literally everyone?Literally all the races we saw and that we know were historically killed by the saiyans.And in Freeza's Forces' case, literally everyone because even the Namekians fell short and they control at least 70% of the universe at the bare minimum.Freeza's title is literal.
>>581482376>>581483467Saibamen can also be much stronger. Vegeta beat 5 "enhanced" Saibamen probably around Nappa's level in the Bardock special.
>>581485758That's not canon and the Saibamen on Earth were especially powerful because Earth's soil is particularly good. Nappa said so directly. They weren't 'average'.>probably around Nappa's levelThere's no real reason to assume that.
>>581485646We only ever see Nappa and Vegeta kill that one bugman planet, though. I don't think we're "historically" told the saiyans killed anyone else (except the cerealans, and they're so strong they required a ton of great apes dropped directly on their head). Like are we talking about the random glupp shitto aliens from anime filler or what here
>>581486019>The guys who's day job was genocide never genocided anybody and the average planet was totally strong as them despite the saiyan's MO was sending single guys to kill the whole populationOkay, you're just being retarded.
>>581485926>not canonmore canon than any dbs or daima retcon lol
>>581486019>they're so strong they required a ton of great apes dropped directly on their headFake Toyofags are so retarded. The Cerelians were fodders and got stomped even after the moon was destroyed. Non-Oozaru Saiyans still had 0 difficulty against them.
>>581485926Nappa doesn't actually say that, though. All he says is "they'll grow nicely in this soil" which doesn't inherently imply they got some kind of huge powerboost from earth's soil
>>581486348Here's the attention you begged for, you can stop crying now.
>>581486190I never said they didn't genocide anyone though? I thought the implication of this conversation is you were alluding to something that happened on screen specifically. Besides, I don't think Saiyans were ever known to generally send only one dude to exterminate populations? That's what the rocket babies do, but that's phrased as more of a "sink or swim and if you die who gives a shit" type thing for low powerlevel saiyans as opposed to just the norm. For adult saiyans they generally seem to operate in teams like Bardock and Vegeta's teams.
>>581486762>Vegeta's teams.Which consisted on just sending Raditz or Nappa to kill everyone while the rest sat on their asses. 3 vs the planet is no different from 1 vs the planet.
>>581486367Saiyans don't generally come out swinging with great ape unless they have a reason to do so, though. I don't think that was ever portrayed to just be their default invasion option
>>581485396To be fair you can just entirely bypass the power levels of its inhabitants and just straight make the planet uninhabitable if we're just solely talking about being an extinction event, Which really isn't that hard. I'm not even talking just straight blowing up the planet like frieza, just chunking it would be enough.
I think Saiyans are super lethal extinction events but only really with Great Ape particuarly. Nappa's 40k is super lethal and Radtiz's 15k is nothing to sneeze at either. I don't think they're just roflstomping every planet with just their bases. Vegeta probably could, tho. We don't really know how large of a force the frieza force usually sends to conquer planets so it's hard to say but I really don't think it's supposed to be like each individual namek mook is stronger than 99% of the universe
Jarona will be added to xv3
>>581485926Actually, looking into this statement more I think it's just straight up wrong. Nappa takes off his scouter before he plants the Saibamen and then claims that their powerlevel is 1200. Which means that's just the power of a Saibaman in general and not the specific powerlevel he got of the ones from Earth.
>>581489125>but I really don't think it's supposed to be like each individual namek mook is stronger than 99% of the universeIt's exactly what it's supposed to be like, 1K is literally a mutant soldier from the army of the Emperor of the universe who send singular soldiers to genocide planets.Also individual namekian mooks are literally a mystic warrior class on a biological level.Goku could destroy the moon at less than 500, the DB universe isn't populated with random planets where everyone can do that, while the Saiyans and Freeza Force ARE like that.>>581487502>Saiyans don't generally come out swinging with great ape unless they have a reason to do so,They're lazy fucks that like sealclubbing, spamming Oozaru just for the fuck of it is fully in character for them even if they can win normally.
>>581490952>1K is literally a mutant soldier from the army of the Emperor of the universe who send singular soldiers to genocide planets.Do you have a source on that? The Ginyu force and of course frieza himself are mutants but i've never seen anyone say that every single frieza force mook on namek was a mutant nor that they tend to send a singular frieza force mook to conquer planets
>>581490952Saiyans are lazy fucks that like sealclubbing but they also enjoy reveling in the slaughter, They can't really do that if they're a mindless ape. It wouldn't be any fun.
>>581491686>Do you have a source on that?Pretty much everything that talk about the Freeza Force say they're mutants of their species. Maybe they just extrapolated from Freeza and Ginyu's guys being confirmed mutants but it's what it says.>nor that they tend to send a singular frieza force mook to conquer planetsGiven it's exactly what saiyans did and the Freeza Force is stronger and still employ Saiyans, yes, they do. Even Jaco was only expecting a single saiyan.
>>581491889>It wouldn't be any fun.They sure were having fun on Planet Cereal regardless so Saiyans are easily entertained I guess.
>>581491972>Pretty much everythingWhat everything in particular though? Are you pulling this from Daizenshuu, some interviews? What? exactly?
>>581492506Saiyans would never have boobs that big I'm literally shaking and crying Toriyama would NEVER
>>581492467It was something I read on Kazenshuu, I'll see if I can find it again.>>581492506>AmarFrench arabs are really convinced Saiyans are algerian for some reason
>>581492506This doesn't have anything to do with Salagir in specific but I dislike how saiyan saga made it a precedent for saiayans to almost always keep their tails wrapped up. it's just really boring to have tails but have them act as a furry belt that does nothing most of the time
>>581492506Oh boy, the one character I dislike even more than Bra.>>581493312It’s an inside joke character. Basically a DBM mod making fun of another DBM mod.
>>581493605Toriyama eventually hated drawing Saiyan tails so having it wrapped around their waist probably made it a bit less tedious for him.
>>581494728Nah yeah I get the meta reasons. But now even artists outside of toriyama gotta draw the tails as belts for normal saiyans for consistency reasons and it's just kinda sad to me, you know? Either tails are gone in their entirety for most of the main characters or they get to be belts with basically zero inbetween except for Kid Goku.
>>581494547What makes you dislike Hanasia more than Bra? She doesn't really show up all that much so she never annoyed me that badly
>>581492506bardock looks very upset to see his hot saiyan wife (who isn't a wife because that's for PUSSIES like MINUS BARDOCK)
>>581496912there's no real evidence for it but as a funny I've always headcanoned Bardock as a Wife Guy. He has pictures of his wife on his scouter to browse while he's on a long pod wait, he brings up Gine constantly unprompted, he's got one of those cute wall hangers that Gine thought was cute up in his pod, he will take almost any insult on the chin except ones about Gine. man LOVES his wife.
>>581495897NTA but she's even more of an abomination against Dragon Ball than Bra by virtue of being Goku's mother except the strongest Saiyan alive (more or less) and beating the shit out of Vegeta, then becoming queen of Saiyans and instrumental to defeating Frieza. Like, you couldn't have made this anymore wrong even if you tried. This is arguably worse than Toyotaro's Bardock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfoprhQ69FoRandom ass Sparking Zero trailer, but the grid at the end makes me thing they may do more with the other DLC characters and then announce something new at the end. They did say we would get news in october.
>>581499293If I remember correctly, October's supposed to be a free update, but I'm sure they might announce the next character pack sometime later this year.
>>581494728>>581494927Toriyama didn't hate drawing tails, he just suddenly get autistically fixated on the fact they'd have to have holes in their pants for the tails and it annoyed him.
>>581502076and like that's such a bizzare thing to get autistic about because like, it would just be a third pant leg? Tails are limbs much like your arms and legs, it's fully prehensile, you'd have zero issue putting pants on with another hole
>>581502076Anon, that's a "Namek has 3 suns, therefore I can't draw night" tier excuse.
>>581382569>Capsule corp logoThe RR army was right. Capsule corp are in league with demons
>>581445480Fuck don't remind me
>>581502227Yup, it's pretty weird.>>581502460I don't see how 'I was annoyed at that weird detail' is more of an 'excuse' than 'I hated drawing tails'.
>>581495897>>581498728Hanasia being this strong naturally also means that Goku's strength comes from her. She also has the same name as the first super saiyan from Multiverse. She doesn't do as much as Bra but she's still a blight in the story.
>>581498728>This is arguably worse than Toyotaro's BardockWhile Bardock somehow has something to teach Goku, he was still just 'strong for a low class' saiyan, Gas was just fodder back then.So I'd say Hanasia is worse.>>581508105>Hanasia being this strong naturally also means that Goku's strength comes from her.Goku has no strength in that universe (ignore that Vegeta was ready to let him be a captain before they got killed).
>thin male buusok but what about chubby buu girls?
>>581508414In that universe in particular no, but Multiverse fully believes that there are hard caps to someone's power, and you can only keep growing with the right ancestry, and no matter which universe, Hanasia is still Goku's mother in Multiverse. So whenever his power grows a lot, he can only grow that strong thanks to her (Which makes Raditz being so weak no matter the universe very weird).
>>581509069>Multiverse fully believes that there are hard caps to someone's power, and you can only keep growing with the right ancestryUnless you're Pan, I guess. Then your bloodline counts for nothing
>>581445480>>581503764If they had any ounce of soul left they would mention Kuriza in XV3.
>>581509213Pan got the Raditz' genes I guess.>Goku is the first super saiyan in a thousand years>Gohan is the youngest super saiyan at 9 years old>Goten is the next youngest super saiyan at 7 years old>Son Bra is the very next youngest super saiyan at 5 years old>Pan who was trained by Goku since she was a toddler can only turn super saiyan at 14 years old?The favoritism is very obvious kek
>>581510169I think the thing is that fanfic authors want to treat pan getting Super Saiyan like it's an impactful thing because she never got it in GT. Except Super Saiyan is 100% obsolete so giving her Super Saiyan is the equivalent to giving her a consolation prize
I've mostly played DBFZ during Baby's release but I've got to say, most ecelebs who put out tier lists always seem like they don't know how to play the game. Is it just strictly for this game or are most fighting games filled with retards
>>581510436>Except Super Saiyan is 100% obsolete so giving her Super Saiyan is the equivalent to giving her a consolation prizeI think she should have gotten super saiyan in Super Hero in the scene where Carmine is eating cookies, and for the whole thing to be treated as a joke with Piccolo giving her cookies quickly for her to go back to base form so no one else sees her as a super saiyan, just to show how easy it is for the characters to get it now.
Is it just me, or are the Z-counters in BT4 way more generous than they were in BT3.I can consecutively land them way more consistently.I am referring to mod btw. Not SZ, fully bored of that now.
>>581511249Fanfic authors really do want super saiyan to be this emotional climactic thing but it really cant be. Super Saiyan is just so, SO outdated. It means nothing, there's basically no power behind the form by now. The sooner we all just accept it's a bit of a meme the better
It's okay, auntie Caulifla helped her tingle her back.
I like how you can make the argument that super saiyan isn't even that hard to get (after a particular power threshold) and it was just Vegeta in particular who sucks at getting it. Goku got it without even trying and everyone else got it super easily. Maybe Vegeta is just bad at it
>>581512086Gohan didn't get it super easily, and Goten and Trunks inherited it from their parents. The only ones who actually got SS super easily were Cabba and Caulifla (not counting Kale since she's a legendary freak)
>>581511181>are most fighting games filled with retardsThat one
>>581511434Even DBS Broly didn't make it an emotional climactic thing, Freeza literally engineered the transformation on the spot.
>>581513325Gohan did get it fairly easily, though. He got the form in a couple of months. I'm aware of the weird S cell shit for Goten and Trunks but that's weird interview stuff that was never in the actual story, and i'm talking about just the base story
>>581513557>in a couple of monthsAre we ignoring he also trained with a SS for three years? After he spent almost a year following a devilish training regime at the age of FOUR? And there's a fucking entire page Toriyama drew precisely of Gohan training, failing and Goku saying it's normal to struggle with it.S-Cells also have nothing to do with what I said, Goten and Trunks being born with the ability to go SS is in the base story, the "scientific" explanation of S-Cells doesn't matter here.
>>581513789>Goten and Trunks being born with the ability to go SS is in the base storyWhat? Huh? When is that ever said? Vegeta very clearly has never seen trunks go super saiyan until the gravity chamber, there was nothing in buu saga that suggests Goten and Trunks just had super saiyan from birth. >Are we ignoring he also trained with a SS for three years?Irrelevant, since Goku phrases it like he's only teaching Gohan how to get super saiyan just now. Whatever training before Gohan got super saiyan isn't super relavent to the time chamber training because he was never attempting to get the form before then.
>>581508461>we finally get fat body types>But it's only for the guysGuess you have to settle for Ribiranne
>>581167965Oh, this is a thing?
>>581511556Oh they actually were training...
Soon
Whenever I'm sad I think of Goku and I instantly cheer up
>>581492506>Amar>HanasiaAre these vegetable puns
>>581511556Both of them should have sex with me
>>581509912>If they had any ounce of soul leftThat's expecting too much of Japanese corpo executives. They wouldn't be where they are if they had any soul in the first place.
>>581519384Based
>>581382487Why is he so hot though?
>>581525215he's FREEZA of the COLD family you dummy he's COLD not HOT
>>581486376I do not like the thought of the saiyan spandex having pockets
>>581527345why not, it makes sense
>>581528943NTA but you assume it'd be rather uncomfortable, given how tight the bodysuit seems to be
>>581529018you think a Saiyan really would be bothered that much by such a thing
>>581529193they're in those space pods for quite some time, I imagine it'd chafe
>>581495897She’s a stain on Goku’s, Bardock’s and even Raditz’s characters in this fanfic.
I guess he's gonna be like a mix of CC Goku and Xeno Goku and be able to use SS, SS2, SS3, SS4(D), SSG, SSB, SSBKK, UIS and UI.I wonder if we will get a Vegeta equivalent with SS, SS2, SS3(D), SSG, SSB, SSBE and UE.
>>581495897I can find some entertainment out of Bra. I think Hanasia is just fucking boring. Her entire existence feels so much like one giant flex. She's stronger than Bardock, stunts on Dodoria, beats the shit out of and traumatizes Kakarot, beats all these other Saiyans and becomes queen, and really only winds up dying to Broly of all people
>>581511556What's wrong with Caulifla's eyes
>>581531415Pan helped tingle her back too, it was very intense, she's still recovering from it
no named female saiyan will ever go super saiyan outside of pachinko machine stories
>>581535780Bro? Your caulifla?
>>581535852The /dbs/ schizo has poor memory retention.
>>581536932Yeah, he should have just said Pan. At least that wouldn't have been a lie.
>>581535780Did you somehow miss out on Caulifla and Kale anon? They've been part of DB for 8 or 9 years now.
>>581537214I was reading a fanfic the other day and went "oh so they're using super broly instead of Z broly, that's kind of novel" and then I thought about it and super broly came out 8 years ago. I feel old.
