Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!/sthg/ #9594 - The FINAL-final Final Weapon Edition==NEWS==>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversaryhttps://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary>Sonic the Hedgehog: Memories and Beyond short animation in Fall 2026https://youtu.be/ZOdpBJdeOhI>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on 19 March 2027https://x.com/SonicMovie>Netflix animated series for preschoolers with attitude in productionhttps://variety.com/2026/film/news/crazy-taxi-movie-netflix-sega-sonic-stranger-than-heaven-1236861148/==COMICS==Sonic the Hedgehog #90 - 30 September 2026Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #3 - 14 October 2026Sonic and the Blade of Courage #17 - October 2026==OTHER==>General Linkshttps://rentry.org/sthglinks>SAGEhttps://sagexpo.org/>SHChttps://shc.zone/>#10000 Projecthttps://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ru>Support BoC!https://bookwalker.jp/series/568134/list/Previous Zone: >>581212969
>>581280713Sonic needs a final solution i think
Best thing about Shadow and Maria?
Sonurge ftw
First Barry of the thread
>>581280850Fuck off to Spider-Man
>>581280850You already lost
>>581280824that they love each other forever
>>581281050Who the heck is Barry? Don't interrupt me.
Due to recent events
If only the other sonic gen wasn’t so dead
>>581281351NTA He's You the Self-Imsert from April Fools game, default name Barry the Quokka
>>581281351Eggman instantly shutting Barry down the second he speaks is still one of the top 3 interactions in the game to me
Douge
>>581281381>>581281480Don't forget Evangelion
Smoke weed with friends.
They love each other
>>581281639fuck off faggot
baaah
>>581281907Your ugly punk girl OC will disappear forever when IDW is over and will never be remembered. She's also a lesbian like all the IDW OCs.
Why are you guys scared of lesbians
>>581281050Beri
>>581282251fuck off soa cocksucker
Blade of Courage has put IDW and the entire western Sonic continuity on huge fraud watch with just one chapter. It's crazy.
>>581282267Kill yourself Lettuce. You will never be a lesbian.
>>581282267Because the people into them are the most annoying niggers in the world
>>581282318Nobody gives a fuck
>>581280824That she’s dead lmao #ripbozo #smokindatmuhriaPACK
>>581281907
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJNYdKHOp14
>>581282440IDWbros do, unironically.
>>581282318The chapter portrayed Amy well, but it was also boring pre-schooler slop.
>>581282312Barry was made by an asian woman doe
>>581282440you do
Takopi
>>581282570>but it was also boring pre-schooler slop.How?
Why is everyone obsessed with parodying One Slop Man?
>>581282676https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Min_Ho_Kim he's a guy?
>>581282134>She's also a lesbian like all the IDW OCs.oh my god.
>>581282570The peak of Amy’s character really came against a tiny rat thing that makes people sad with magic or some bullshit lmao
>>581282837pffft dunno why i got that confused, my bad
>>581282959>>581283139kys
Why do the worst characters attract the worst people who obsess over them
>>581283497i fuck this every night btw
>>581283442>
What is Lettuce's problem?
>>581283705I'm talking about Amy, Tails, and Silverfags
>>581283624Sonic Tails and Whisper….
>>581283497>>581283624Tangle is so dangerous when aroused that having sex with her is considered rape whether or not you consent
>>581282831It introduces Amy, immediately introduces conflict, immediately solves it. Then that's it. Like where's the build up?
Stop having sexual fantasies about children's mascots you fucking degenerates
>>581284206Sex?
>>581284314That’s every chapter of Blade of Slop
>>581284206How do I get a Lemur gf
>>581283854Let me guess you’re a Shadowfag
>>581284585Anthropomorphic lemurs aren't real. You simply can't.
>>581284314>the character intro chapter introduced a characterYesWhy are you upset it didn't do something unrelated
>>581284603I don't even like this series
>>581283741tranny/woke
>>581284601Is Maria stupidly retarded?
>>581284716>please don't criticize anything involving my favorite underage video game character!
>>581284668hoyahaya, hooyahiya
>Blaze finally gets to be in the Dc crossover >Does nothing worth of note>Even when she finally fights someone it gets overshadowed by Cheese's feat KEK
>>581284816That also makes sense. Follow-up question: why are you here?
I've heard Ben Schwartz and Jaleel White talk about Sonic as a character but not Jason Griffith or Roger.
>>581285085Shitposting is fun and /sthg/ is the best place to do that with the low poster count and high autism rate.
>>581284998Why are you talking about their age anon?
>>581285176American media actually cares about what makes characters interesting. Japan just wants mascots
>>581285458You really did lose though.
>>581284998Criticism is fine and encouraged. Just criticize it properly lol
GRRRRRRRR, JaPENIS doesn'tlike our SLOP....! I know! We'll take it out on a random guy that had nothing to do with our reception! THAT'LL SHOW 'EM!!
>i don’t like the series or the characters but i’m going to be here all day and post dissent all day anyway
>>581285186>I’m not scared, I’m not scared, I can do this!
>>581285002Blaze is a meh character.
>>581285302That’s kinda loser behavior t b h
>>581285360LmaoAmerican media reboots everything over and over because they see characters as just mascots to puppet around and slap random writing on. As long as you have like 3 surface level traits and make em say a catch phrase, americans consider that "the character".
>>581285701Not all day. A few hours in a few days when I have nothing to do at work
I can't believe kishimoto is watching porn instead of making the next game good
>>581285715OOC.
>>581285609> Last release was over a year ago>Still hasn't been localized beyond the end of MVLollmao even
>>581270536>Amy thinks Cream is SUNNYOh SHIT
>>581286127Literal canon quote
Why are IDW fans pretending to be oppressed
>>581286802You niggas literally try to shit on them 24/7
>>581286753The Adventure games aren't canon.
>>581285609https://sonic.sega.jp/SonicChannel/topics/goods/20250623_008967/they know it peaked at metal virus and didn't translate the rest which is funny because i saw a plush of belle there in store lmao
>>581286994Lmao nice try shitposting dork, get back to work
>>581287118The Metal Virus was dumb desu. They fixed it so easily it makes you wonder what the point of all the drama was.
>>581287271There's nothing to do!
>>581286934Where
>>581284314So is Trigun and Cowboy Bebop for toddlers? Because a lot of their episodes were that.
I have never said anything mean to an IDW fan in my whole life but the comic is ooc
>>581287743There is literally always someone seething about IDW in these very threads
Is it ok to draw Tangle busty
>>581287998It's a bad comic with horrible "fans". Most of them don't even like Sonic, yet they want to be some kind of authority over it.
>>581287431Jerk off or something idk. Here this should help
BoC is for kids the same way Digimon is for kids.
>>581287743See? >>581288182
>>581287998IDWfags and IanShills make every post about people liking BoC and Amy's writing about IDW and Ian out of nowhere. It's obnoxious.>>581288162No
BoC is a kids manga based on a... kids franchise.
>>581287743SEE??? >>581288403
>>581288412but...but.... sonic is supposed to be pg-13......
>>581288265Like Beatbreak or Tamers?
It's hilarious how Blade of Courage haters can't even really come up with legitimate reasons to shit on the manga.>Uh, its fans insult IDW!>Uh, it's for kids (like everything else in the franchise)
>>581288162>Is it ok to draw [literally any female] bustyYes, what are you a faggot?
>>581288361They are literally just ranting to you tho
BoC is intended to be introductory material for Japanese children, and it does an excellent job at that.
i legit think SOA is just pic related im tired of their shit
>>581288828I didn’t even say anything at all about IDW, just the mere mention of it with no context breeds insane amounts of seethe here
IDW fans don't seriously think their comic is mature and adult, right?
>>581288969They think it's deep and has "rich themes and character work"
Sally kicked fang in the nuts then pointed a real barrel gun at him and his team of jobber jerboas
Apologize to Krack
>>581288836Didn’t this place JUST have a meltie over the idea of a children’s show?
>>581288502Whats wrong with that post? Its just responding to you>they used meanie words to describe themSo? They dont have to like them.>>581288578It's more like Xros Wars or Frontiers.https://youtu.be/43OkIXYoUQE
>>581289142Theres a difference between a kids show like Sonic X or Aosth and cocomelon
>>581289130I am really sorry Krack
>>581289142Sonic fans forgot they share the same demographic as Animal Crossing, not DMC.
>>581288963You invited opinions about it after claiming that people react negatively to it. Then acting perfoematively confused when a person who doesnt like those things expresses why.
>>581289267Nigga, you asked where were the people who shit on IDW, and I showed you
>>581289469IDW hasn't been liked here in a long time. What were you exactly expecting?
>>581289616You to not act like a dumbass and say “where are the people who shit on it???”
I don't hate IDW but I do consider it an OOC spinoff like satam even if it's meant to be canon
>>581289424>You invited opinionsI did no such thing. I simply stated that people here always seethe about it. I gave no opinion of my own about it whatsoever
>mature bruv People were CRYING because their favorites got zombified even if that means nothing at the end
>>581289318Eh, again more like Digimon.https://youtu.be/aCup7a3jDAcThis scene had similar kind of thing going on as the Amo fight for example.
>>581289686I'm not the one who said that, though. But you're stupid complaining about how this place doesn't like IDW. Did you expect that to change suddenly?
>>581284601Honestly, I prefer that Maria was deliberately shot rather than an apparent accident.
>>581289947Then I was never talking to you and you jumped into my conversation for no reason. Get out of my mentions
>>581289856>being dishonestYou made a post like that and didnt expect people to respond trying to defend themselves?Are you just retarded then?
Let's do this again:If you like IDW, why?
>>581290095All I did was claim that they seethe about IDW, then they proceeded to….seethe about IDW. That’s not a defense that’s proving me right
Blaze and Silver live rent free
>>581290073That doesn't change that your whole stance is stupid.
>>581289856>>581290293So what were the people supposed to do? Nothing? So it was a trap? The simple fact is when people enjoy non-iDW stuff, iDWfags come out the woodwork and take it as a personal attack.Why? And how can me make it stop? It's annoying.
>>581290469My stance that people here always seethe about IDW??? It’s literally being proven right in real time
>>581288969idw fans are potentialfags that see value in trash which is why you'll also see silverfags among them
>>581289890It's funny how they say that IDW is "original" when their "best" arc is one of the most unoriginal and overused shit of the last decade.
>>581290565>So what were the people supposed to do? Nothing?Yes?? Or at the very least not immediately prove me right by doing exactly what I said they do>The simple fact is when people enjoy non-iDW stuff, iDWfags come out the woodwork and take it as a personal attack.This also did not happen. When people were praising BoC Amy the only thing that happened were the same exact people using it as a reason to shit on IDW, because they constantly have that chip on their shoulder
>>581290949>most unoriginal and overused shityou can take that but if you nail the pacing and tone people will praised it its just zombies but ian nailed the thing , is one of the most loved sonic things ever
>>581291059IDW is shit and BOC is based. People who like IDW hate Sonic characters and aren't intelligent enough to discuss them.
>>581291237I thought I told you to jerk off
>>581290592You're stating something that has long been known. IDW isn't liked here.
>>581291228No one feels that way. That arc was known to drag on top long and everyone being miserable until it was time to resolve everything.
>>581291426Then explain this post >>581286802
These IDW vs BOC Melties are always funny. The IDW fags act like they're being raped. I don't even care about the manga, it's just funny that there mere act of something being in-character is enough to be a humiliation ritual for IDW fans.
>Aren't you that blue guy from those Mario games?
>>581291594What's supposed to be explained here?
Sonic characters for this feel?https://youtu.be/0Le4HnDVyc0
>>581288682I’m a Tailsfag and it includes more flanderized Tails, and they benched him for Chris 2
>>581291935Yuta is nothing like Chris beyond being human.
>>581291829>”We hate IDW here”>”Why do IDW fans feel attacked??”Are we deadass rn
>>581291935Chris's gimmick was that he was a cynical overthinker while Yuuta's thing is that he's very kind and insecure
>godzilla crossover is dogshit sonicfaggots...
>>581292074You’re right, at least Chris made me feel something (rage). Yuta bores me to tears
>>581292101This wouldn't happen if they didn't believe they're better material for the franchise than anything else and bragging that they're "caron" and hating the manga because the characters act right.
>>581291059>immediately prove me right by doing exactly what I said they doThey didn't. You said "there is always someone shitting on IDW in these threads" and said people do it "24/7".Someone on an anonymous message boards replying with a negative attitude about it to your claims is obviously gonna be someone with a negative opinion of it.That isnt proving its "always happening and bring done 24/7" or the implication that its baseless and irrational>This also did not happenWhy are you lying? They literally kept interupting it constantly and accusing people of pretending to like it just to hate IDW. As if people need a proxy to do it or something. Its obnoxious.>BoC Amy the only thing that happened were the same exact people using it as a reason to shit on IDW, because they constantly have that chip on their shoulderYou're literally proving my point in real time. 0 self awareness.
IDW fans don't understand Sonic
https://files.catbox.moe/t2h9kq.mp4
>>581292265Newsflash nigga: all fans of specific things feel that their thing is the better material, that’s what makes them a fan of that thing
I'm gonna tell Shadow more cool things about Yuta!
>>581292563Sonikku...
>>581292529IDW fans want to control the franchise and are actually putting an effort to achieve that goal.
>>581291228Ian didnt really nail anything. Im not even saying this to shit onnhim or IDW. I like IDW enough and enjoy MV enough. It doesnt really do anything special. It just made the character do sad faces and miserable until they have a last hail Mary at the end (this part was cool).I feel like the people that like it that much are the same kind of person enamored with shlock like Sonic.EXE
>>581292703So do japfags
>>581292805Sonic is literally a Japanese-created franchise, bub.
>papryus spaghetti cards that amy allegedly needs to do the obvious again>in the crossover comic where everyone is blatantly written like the moviesOh boy
>>581292448>taking the 24/7 comment literallyHoly shit the autism accusations are true
no one gave a single shit about boc and idw because there was no much difference hell , even i didnt give a shit about temu sonic x until the amy chapter. the chapter was so good it finally gave people that want amy back real ammo. let em fight , let em kill each other because SEGA will be listening and this shit will escalate.
Shadally
>>581291935Chris and Yuta arent alike beyond being young boy tagalongs. Chris was a sheltered kid who was lonely and liked having special friends to hang out with. He didnt really do anything.Yuta is a well-meaning kid who finds himself in weird situations because he is always trying to take his time to see if he can help people who gets a special chosen one sword that can slow things down with the power of his courage.Chris is lame.but I also think he is overhated.Yuta though is actually likeable and does things.
>>581292998Sonic is only still alive because of the American audience and the American made movies, bub. They bailed out the increasingly shit Japanese games
>>581293060Agreed because nowhere on my post did I imply it was to be taken literally, you autist.
>>581288836Those kids ain't reading that shit and you know it
>>581293223I can't believe kishimoto got better things to do than make good sonic games
pictured: Yu*ta
>>581293316Yes you did??? The whole fucking post?? Stupid ass nigga?????
>>581293090Nobody gives a fuck about Amy.
Sonurge
I can't take faggots seriously who use Sonic X as an argument against Blade of Courage. It shows they have no clue what they're talking about, but pretend they do.
>>581293419Blackblurr, acting incredulous and spamming question marks because you dont have a real response doesnt mask the fact you made bullshit accusations.
>>581293223This post is proving you're just a butthurt Westnic fanboy.
>>581292074>>581292128>>581293152You all took this way more seriously and missed the point that it’s “stupid human kid no one cares about being next to Sonic”
>>581293656Blackblur doesn't come here. There is nothing on sthg Blackblur would like.
>>581293090>SEGA will be listeningNot really. Live sonic 4 is already written and will be releasing soon, and that will be what liberates Sega from the mainstream's internalized "creepy stalker Amy" stigma. Needless to say, I don't think it was worth it. Nothingburger character
>creepy stalkerShe's mad because he stood her up for a year
>>581293739That's a low-IQ point.
>>581293739>was flagrantly wrong>reframes to save face.The whole point is that reductive attitude is dumb. Yuta is cool. Chris didnt endearing anyone until season 3 where he is an adult and age regresses, and all he really does is pass Sonic the level up items from Adventure.Anti human autism is low IQ.
If you support the Paramount-Warner Bros merger, you are a corporate drone and a brainless moron. Paramount is as conservative and anti-woke as that billionaire faggot Scott Bessent. Paramount is owned by the Ellisons, who are the biggest private donors to the IDF and they have also invested a bunch of their money into using AI for mass surveillance. What they've contributed to in the Middle East is eventually coming to you. The only reason Paramount is moving to Texas is because the Ellisons know that there are a bunch of Israel-worshipping, geriatric rednecks who wear suits, ties, and cowboy hats and like to portray themselves as hypermasculine cowboys but are actually closeted homos over there who will run political cover for the Paramount-Warner Bros monopoly because not doing so would be "h'aint-ah-siemitism".Also Tel Aviv is the gayest city in the world, 1/3 of all Israeli Jews are bisexual, and the IDF is a parasitic girlboss gang, not a proper military
sam procrastinates is playing school house
>>581294004>Paramount is as conservative and anti-wokelmaoStopped reading there.
>>581293745Not fooling anyone.
BoC proves once again that the Sonic cast is fundamentally uninteresting and should not be the focus of stories
Let's face it, IDW is cooked. "Fans" of it hate on BoC because BoC basically debunks the many myths created by the IDW-staff and their supporters. We CAN get the accurate Sonic characters and stories we've all been asking for, it literally exists in a modern product in BoC. It also disproves their cult's mentality that IDW is just hated on for no good reason and Sonic fans can't be satisfied. It was inevitable that the eventual Amy chapter would cause this to happen, now the majority are firmly on board with BoC. Seriously, what's the excuse now?
>>581294140I was being sarcastic. They're obviously not that
>>581293992>Yuta is cool.No he’s not
>>581293992You guys have to admit that your hatred of IDW has made it so nobody can talk about it here anymore. If you say anything nice about IDW or Evan's work people say "So you hate Amy" or "You don't understand anything about Sonic". You would think we're Satamfags or something.
>>581294082it got west tails but with right color palette
>>581293885Its just a mindless buzzword used indiscriminately against her. Same with "yandere". None of them know what they even mean. They just know its the thing you throw at Amy portrayals people who are critical of nuAmy like.
>>581294082That reminds me, didn't he tell his fans to harass the living SatAM writers or something? I forgot to watch it so I didn't see.
>>581293885It's almost like he doesn't like being around her or something
>>581294232He's cool enough. He is likeable.
>>581293760Will Sonic Movie 4 make Sega listen?
>>581294374not satam writers. abc channel executives. and he didn't say go harass. he wanted to know who was involved behind the frankenstein episode
>>581280850Off-topic seething
Amy's problem is that she is girly, and dudebros and woke people hate that
>>581294516>>581280850I seriously need context
>>581294481No he ain't
>>581293992>Anti human autism is low IQ.This entire franchise is about cute animal characters doing cool shit. That’s the fucking appeal. Autistically arguing that humans NEED to be involved is fucking weird. You get nothing but humans in 90% of other media, go be a fan of that shit, this franchise is not for you
>>581286382One of the worst panels from IDW.
>>581294614ABT...
>>581294614Comicfag
>>581294481He’s fucking lame and he dresses like a 2000s wigger, get him outta here
>>581294234>You guys have to admit that your hatred of IDW has made it so nobody can talk about it here anymoreNo. You guys spreading the notion that people only "pretend" to like it to shit on IDW did that. Because IDW stans are like a cult and its obnoxious. You treat liking IDW like being woke or something and treat BoC fans and IDW critics like being "right wing grifter chuds" or whatever the buzzwords are.You made up a myth to be mad at and now wanna blame us for you creating it. I legit didnt even care for BoC like that at first.
>>581294417He doesn't do dates normally but he enjoyed her presence the very chapter and knows her strengths.
>Hi, let's talk about Sonic>AMYAMYAMYAMYAMY>But I want to talk about cooler Sonic characters like >AMYAMYAMYAMYAMYAMYAMY>But I don't want to talk about Amy I want to talk about>AMYAMYAMYAMYAMYAMYAMYAMYAMYAMYAMYAMYAMYAMY>SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY BESTIE!!!!!
You guys have literally been having the same threads for yearsWhat is different about this thread compared to one made two years ago
>>581294614This is definitely a post by someone who loves Archie/Satam/IDW and hates the games
>>581294792All of your talking points about political bullshit are what’s made up, you need help with that /pol/brain
>>581294417>He literally came looking for her.
>>581294537Woke people hate feminine, straight women but love feminine, MtF transgenders and lipstick lesbians. You see their hypocrisy?
>the mcutrannoid is seething this badly lol lmao even fomotrannoid
>>581294563He projects an IDW ship into an MCU one.>>581294886Amy is on-topic and one of the biggest topics of Sonic.
>>581294563Duofag the AI slopartist has severely lost his mind; his goonship with Amy has ended in favor of Surge, and he watched the new Spider-Man movie and is hallucinating Sonurge.
>>581295053>>581295038Spider-man... Surge? Surge and Spider-man... The Superhero Spider-man who tells jokes and is sad all the time? Shipping is brainrot
>>581294481Don't bother. These are the same people who will try to argue that the IDW OCs are cool and interesting.
I noticed sonaze and silvaze feuds vanished here.
Steam community for Sonic games and non Sonic games is dogshit.Why didn't you warn me?
>>581295206Sonic is brainrot nigger
>>581294742>>581294764>>581294928Lmao you to need to make shit up about me to validate your point
>>581295038>one of the biggest topics of Sonic.Highly doubt but whatever suits you
>>581294571Explain?>>581294614>This entire franchise is about cute animal characters doing cool shit.Okay cool. And a low IQ then goes corpo math brain and decides that means everything needs to be animal characters like a moron like context and contrast arent things that exist and matter.I literally feel nothing seeing scrimblos run around mindlessly in the Godzilla crossover even though Station fucking Square is getting torn appart by Kaijus.Yet I feel shit in BoC when RinRiN affects everyone with her bell.>>581294773Blackblur...Also how do you look at an anime boy ass anime boy like Yuta and see a white kid from the 2000s? He looks like a Yokai Watch era protagonist if anything.
>>581295252It has devolved into Silver vs Blaze fueds
>>581295232Surge is a million times cooler than Yuta
>>581295053Didduofag/bonsoirdude get brain-damage, or this what becoming a datacenter-huffer does to a man...?
>>581294932>doesnt know what an analogy isEngage with the point this time
>>581295053So he watched a movie with an actual enemies to lovers conflict and thought it was Sonic and Surge
Why the fuck are you people so angry all the time
>>581295367>I literally feel nothing seeing scrimblos run around mindlessly in the Godzilla crossover even though Station fucking Square is getting torn appart by Kaijus.And I feel nothing seeing a snotnose human kid hanging out with Sonic. I want to see Tails or Knuckles or Amy or fuck even Shadow doing shit with Sonic. The Knuckles and Amy parts of BoC are great, but then Tails is shoved in a basement forever to justify a FUCKING NOTHING HUMAN KID being there for NO FUCKING REASON
>>581295623It's okay, we're just angry at retarded people.
>>581295232They arent that interesting (save for Starline and Belle. They were cool.) But they all have meme animal designs which is all that matters to them i guess. "Moar Sonic characterz". They wanna collect em like they are pokemon.
>>581295695No one gives a fuck about Tails bro
>>581295053They literally have the same dynamic as Sonic and Surge
>>581295868No they fucking dont
>>581295787I do. I like this franchise and its characters, do you? Sounds like no
>>581295695Tails, I love you, but jealousy doesnit become you...
>>581295356You been laying under a rock this whole week. Cope.
>>581295967Yuuta is a Sonic character
>>581295695>And I feel nothing seeing a snotnose human kid hanging out with Sonic.Why do you hate kids? Why do you hate people? Seems like something you should look into.>>581295695>I want to see Tails or Knuckles or Amy or fuck even Shadow doing shit with Sonic.And we get that in the comic? Thr last chapter literally had Amy dragging sonic around on her silly date, lol.I dunno why youre pretending this doesnt and didnt happen.>The Knuckles and Amy parts of BoC are great, but then TailsOh its Tailscel again.
>>581296045I come here daily and the threads are the same 3 people astroturfing amy discussion
Why does this ship make everyone so mad?
>>581295695tails chapter was good brohe will never be a protag
>>581295921>He is a hero who everyone looks up to with an unbreakable spirit who does things his own way>she is a street rat who hates him, was experimented on, and blames him for not standing against the scientists and sticking with the status quo >she tries to kill him and he reaches out to her >he believes in redeeming while she just wants to kill >he gives her a second chance>she stops his heart>after their final battle she decides she's going to be a hero like him You're going to deny it because you didn't even read IDW
>>581296054No he’s not. He’s Chris tier, except not really because magnitudes more people know about Chris than know about Yuta
>>581295623I've been on cloud nine for two days now. >>581296118It's not 3 people.
Instead of arguing tell me your favorite aesthetics in the Sonic franchise
>>581296156>>581295868Realtalk: are you ok?
>>581296243it's exactly 3 people. 4 at best. and they post here all day around
>>581296084Oh it’s Tailshatercel again. You just hate Tails and that’s why you like this slop, it treats him like shit
>>581296281Yuji Uekawa art. I miss 2000s Sonic's coolness
>>581296156You can spam all you want now. I'm just glad you got humbled.
>>581295439No one seems to actually like the actual Surge. Only the fanfic version the community created. There is also an eerily heavy overlap between people eho like Surge and peoplr who hate Sonic and want him to be knocked down a peg and learn to #do better and align with their morality.
>>581296382What spam?
>>581296156>sonic has toes but Surge doesn't
>>581296407I mean what do you expect for a crying lesbian. At least Kitfag actually likes her. He's probably the only real IDW fan here who stays out of discourse and let people enjoy the manga this week.
>>581296538This is literally how Surge acts to Sonic
>>581296554You are being too obvious Surgetroon
Barry!
>>581296545It's slopa. He doesn't care about quality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kt6ULcZxwRo
>>581296407the moment she stopped being a villain she died for me
>>581296201>who everyone looks up to with an unbreakable spirit who does things his own wayNo lol>after their final battle she decides she's going to be a hero like himThat's not even what happened. She said she cant and won't ever stop hating him because there is nothing else for her. Then Amy lets her in the restoration and vouches for her.Then she gets a taste of heroism and calls Sonic a fraud.
New 2.5D Sonic by Mercury Steam when?
>>581296162Tails chapter was one step above Pontaff Tails, then the rest of the chapters made him Kim Possible Wade. It’s insulting compared to what everyone else got
Surge tongues Amy's bubblegum-scented and flavored anus
>>581296345How old are you
fomotranny you should be like KitGawd instead
Someone in a previous thread that Sega doesn't want to return the franchise to its 2000s aesthetic and tone because there are some people on the right wing who want it and who criticize IDW. Well too bad for Sega. They're supposed to know that the therapy circles, crying lesbians, and gay birds in IDW attract the alphabet activists. What do they expect?
Literally nothing wrong with Sonurge
>>581296915Old enough to remember when Tails was treated with actual respect
>>581296847because he uses his brain? you want tails to be an action hero soo bad man
Notice there are never complaints of the Gun Commander, the President, Professor Pickle, or Maria. It's always Chris, Yuta, Wade, or Elise because human co-protagonists are not perceived to be nearly as cool as a standard Sonic character, which is an actual intended contrasting theme tied to their existence compared to blobian civilians. If humans had been made exceptional from the beginning in the games and cartoons alongside the likes of Sonic in terms of ability and design, there would be less resistance to them being a protagonist. That said, Sonic helping a human through an arc isn't a bad idea on paper, just hardly done well
>>581295439Surge is a forced character.
SpiderGrey
>>581296538I'm... not sure what feeling this image is supposed to conjure up to me but it makes me not want to see your movie because it makes me feel revulsion lolIs this a Marvel promotion thing?
>>581296554Kitfag in general doesn't bother anyone, yeah.
>>581296156it's basically hetero sonknux
>>581297064>you want tails to be an action hero soo bad manYes I do? Because that’s what he’s supposed to be? Really telling on yourself here
>>581296725I don't even see the point of her after they dropped that.
No idea why this ship upsets besties
Sonurge is more interesting than Sonamy because of the shit Sonamytards brag about. It's boring watching them after a while. Amy chases him and he isn't interested. Sonic actually wants what's best for Surge and she's slowly learning.
>>581296610
>>581297162No one complains about Yuta besides bitter and envious Tails fans.
>>581297447And ABT.
Sonic’s green wife
It's Duobot, guys. Disengage.
>>581297162>If humans had been made exceptional from the beginning in the games and cartoons alongside the likes of Sonic in terms of ability and design, there would be less resistance to them being a protagonist.That would also kill the intrinsic coolness of the actual Sonic characters. “Exceptional humans” exists elsewhere, it’s called the superhero genre. Sonic is not that and it should never include that. The animal characters are supposed to be the exceptional ones
Green and blue
>>581297279>Because that’s what he’s supposed to be?is he? he is just focusing on his forte and not your fanfiction of self insertsince sonic 2 he is the mechanic/pilot i bet pic related makes you have PTSD
>>581297718And there shouldn't be animal background civilians either because it makes Sonic and the cast look like special.
>>581296725Surge doesn't work as a full on villain. The fanbase is invested in her because she is a focus tested character designed to be popular by appealing to surface tropes. Ian originally just wanted her to be a literal biologically made evil clone who would just be evil and thus irredeemable, similar to Scourage. But he couldn't because biogenetics is supposed to be Gerald tier and thus above Starline's pay grade. So instead he made them kidnapped victims turned into cyborgs and brainwashed and torture trained to fight Sonic and hate him.He didnt think it through at that point. He just wanted to get to the point of having someone evil that just hates Sonic no matter what and is a hedgehog (sorta) fight him and rivalfag like Scourge. But by this point you created a character whose entire deal is wanting to blame Sonic for everything that happened to her. So ofc everyone who stans her and already wants to treat Sonic like he's bad for not killing Trump or whatever is in the wrong.
>>581297782His “forte” includes hmmmm I don’t know FLYING WITH HIS TAILS AND BEING FAST LIKE SONIC. He’s not Jimmy Neutron, his physical capabilities cannot be ignored
>>581296204Seethe harder, "mobians" are not a thing
>>581294191There is no excuse. Sega of America, as much as it pains, need to listen to the BoC fans and accept people don't want Nu Amy
Human background characters > Blobian background characters. The latter undercuts the Sonic characters and ruins their appeal. All human MCs are shit. including Chris and Maria
>>581297057Answer the question
>>581297718I don't disagree with you. What I'm trying to say is humans are inherently uncool to most Sonic fans, and putting one in a protagonist position is not going to go over well because of that
Sonamybesties feel insecure about Sonurge afteir their shitty manga chapter
>>581297862>it makes Sonic and the cast look like special.? That’s a good thing, the main cast should be special. Animal npcs drive that point home even harder than human npcs, it shows that they’re not special just because they’re animals, but because of whatever specific trait actually makes them special
>Sega at TGS for some reason
>>581297210He's chill that way, I respect it.
>>581298225new virtua fighter footage maybe?
>>581298029Late 20s, no you’re not getting an exact number. What is this insistence on my age? Are YOU 13?
>>581298164No, Sonic and the gang stick out more with non-animal people are walking around.
>>581297162What about Shara and Merlina though? People like them. Everyone likes Hellen and say she should be the companion instead of Chris. Also people loved Donut Lord in Movie 1. Opinions on him only wemt down after Twitterfags game the movie writers the idea of making him Sonic's literal dad with their memes. Also a lot of people hated Chip. Yuta hate is performative and ignorant. Chris was lame because he was lame. Elise was disliked because people saw her as taking focus away from doing things thr player cares about like fighting bad guys and monsters in favor of romance shit.
>>581298116You lost.
Sonic bangs this
>>581298164Animal characters in the 2000s were a visual shorthand for someone important, now it's not really much of anything but eyecandy. People post all of these IDW background characters and none of them have lore, personalities, histories. Not even at a glance, meanwhile a random Shamar NPC tells you a little bit about the world at a glance. I don't see the appeal of a random background monkey dressed like a ninja in a very clearly not-ninja town.
'notha rerun.>click-click!Bloody 'ell? It's on the fritz!
>>581298225p4r , stranger than heaven . crossworlds...retard
>>581298448Looks like someone who'd rather be leashed by the girl showing her to be a hero.
>>581298374The only way they stick out more among humans is visually, which is shallow as hell and I don’t care about it basically at all
>>581298486>not releasing in Japan this year>not releasing in Japan>SonicRetard
>>581298164I disagree with you but I'm also confused. There's nothing inherently wrong with your opinion but the only mainline game that it actually applies to is Sonic Forces. Did you like the setting in Boom, Archie and IDW? I'm guessing you did not like the Adventure era.
>>581298164Hot take: The movies and the 2000s games had the right idea. Humans and mundane settings set the bar low enough that Sonic and loops appear much cooler. Having a bunch of colorful animal characters undermines Sonic.Even little things like Sonic being significantly shorter than a human add appeal that is lost when most of the population is around his height.
>>581298052I legit think it only bothers pseuds and furries. People think human co star is automatically bad because "Chris Thorndyke bad". Its the same idiocy of saying "tropes can be bad" that midwits use.
>>581298605https://x.com/HazzadorGamin/status/2100248976272633998???
>>581298164That's literally the opposite. Most Sonic animal characters don't even have special powers. They are just skilled and essentric.
>>581298606It always come down to Western Sonic where Sonic lives on Mobius furryland.
>>581298606I did like the Adventure era, but it had nothing to do with the human background characters, it was becuase the actual characters were written well and treated with respect. They were not in games like Forces, which is why I hate that game and it has nothing to do with the animal bg chars. Picrel encapsulates it perfectly. Why is Tails cowering with no name npcs? Because he’s OOC. It would be the same if those were regular no name humans.
>>581298850Releasing a game on Xbox doesn’t count as releasing in Japan
I don't have any philosophy answer but whenever I see people against humans I know they are only minutes away from admitting to being an archiefag or an idwfag. I hate comicshitters because they hate Sonic. Its always those faggots. I bet they think Jaws would be a better movie if the main character had the body of a shark.
cnc
>>581298473It's literally just furries and horseshowfags who wanna escape into horseshowtown
tailsfags think they replaced tails for yuta no lil bro tails never going to get any of that
>>581298917>Most Sonic animal characters don't even have special powers. They are just skilled and essentric.Thats the same thing in this context. Sonic is the fastest, that’s basically a superpower. Tails can fly with his 2 tails, which is something he was made fun of because *that’s what makes him unique*. Knuckles is the super strong Guardian, again basically a superpower. Shadow’s literal artificial powers. Etc etc etc. Every main character stands out for something other than simply “being an animal”
>>581299048You just want to replace Maria with Amy
>>581298965I meant aesthetically. Sonic Forces is literally the only mainline Sonic game that uses "Mobian" background NPCs, so effectively there is no mainline Sonic game you like with this actual aesthetic.You're talking to people who like and often worship the adventure era games and hate things that were only established after Colors, so there's going to be a heavy bias against this to start with.
>>581299260that tranny doest ship sh*damy is just shitpost
Sonic looks at Surge and says Woah!
>>581299260CNC
>>581298164>it shows that they’re not special just because they’re animals, but because of whatever specific trait actually makes them specialThis entire line of logic is weird and confusing to me.Sonic and friends are special on a meta level.
>>581298225Stranger than Heaven is the only reason they are on it. All the other stuff is just games that were already been released.. For Sonic is a demo from the new events Godzilla and Evangelion and Sonic Piko Park. Also, the goods are really bad...
>>581298750Again this is all basically from a visual standpoint, which is shallow compared to the actual special traits the main cast all have. Sonic isn’t cool because he’s a 3 ft anthro hedgehog, he’s cool because he’s the fastest thing alive. Tails isn’t cool because he’s a fox, he’s cool because he can fly with his butt and he’s super smart
>>581298319>is this insistence on my age?Your behavior is concerning for someone your age.>>581298558>visual shorthand is shallow????? That's how visual mediums work. Them being seen as special is visual shorthand and juxtapositional. Not some Tolkien loreshit
>>581298164I feel like people get so caught up in literalism they forget basic theming. Like Superheroes don't just dress up in colorful costumes because they are weirdos who like it, it's also just because it makes sure all the visual appeal is centered on the important characters and not distributed among background characters. There is an actual utility in avoiding filling the background with them. It also saves in bandwidth. It's harder to notice that all of the GUN agents use the same model compared to blobian characters who are supposed to be unique suddenly having tons of duplicates.
>>581299459>konami is back at making vidya wild stuff , cannot wait for castlevania
>>581299680I want my favorite character to be respected like he should and I’m not shy about expressing that. Not sure how that’s weird. What’s weird is you constantly trying to tell me to accept things I don’t like as if you’re the ultimate authority on this franchise. Kiss my ass
>>581299682Literalism is cool though. Like 40k or Halo.
>>581298965Piggybacking the other anon. Sonic Forces sucks, Sonic Forces is the only game that is like this unless you want to count the spinoffs. So to a lot of people this is just "not Sonic" even if humans sucked in games like 06. There hasn't been a good Sonic title that is like this. Maybe if you like the comics I guess.
>>581299209>Thats the same thing in this contextNo it isn't.>>581299209>Every main character stands out for something other than simply “being an animal”It's not about "being an animal". Its about "having the funny cartoon schrimblo design".
forces still a product of the two world daysdid people forgot about that?
>>581299956Forces sucking has nothing to do with there being animal background characters. It sucks because it has a horribly executed story, even more horribly executed characterizations, and boring gameplay. The animal npcs caused none of that
"Mobians" = Satamshit = dogshit
>>581299517>visuals dont matter and are shallowOkay so you would be fine with all the characters just being humans? Or colored dots?
>>581298965Forces came in 20 years after it was already clearly established that most of the population is human so this is just stupid no matter how you slice it. It doesn't make any fucking sense. If you're going to talk about consistent characterization, this is inconsistent worldbuilding. Especially since they immediately threw it away when people complained and the very next mainline game is set on earth and the one after that has humans again.
>>581300125SatAM is better than Archie as a story I bet. The games are good, but if you went hunting for flaws, there would be plenty of shortcomings there too.
>>581299919Ive done no such thing. I just find you shoving it down everyone's throat when it isnt topically relevant obnoxious.
>no we can’t give whatever sonic/tails/knuckles/rouge/blaze/cream/charmy/espio/vector/fang/trip/infinite/gadget/barry/ are supposed to be because… we can’t okay!
Eggman is a human. The mere idea that he is a "special human that doesn't count" is a fallacy of a point. The first Sonic game had a human in it. Humans were established day 1.
I only like humans. I think there shouldn't be any more mobians. Get rid of Sonic.
>>581300423*give them a nameFUCK
>>581299956You defeated your own argument. Forces sucked but people dont dislike scrimblo NPCs because "Forces sucked". That's such a low resolution take.People love Infinite anyway despite the fact "Forces sucked"."06 was bad" didnt stop Silver from being popular. You have to realise most people are dumb and dont hate things for the reasons they say or even think they do, let alone just because "thing in thing bad".
>>581300370Yes you do. You constantly try to downplay and belittle me whenever I say that Tails’ physical capabilities matter. I wouldn’t talk about it so goddamn much if YOU and ONLY YOU just understood this very simple fact, since YOU are the only one who consistently argues with me on this. Just shut the fuck up already my fucking god
>noooo earth as the name of the planet is booring!!cope
>>581300121I'm just saying it leaves a very bad first impression that the only Sonic game that is like this is utter dogshit and the only "good" media (I don't read the comics) of it is complete non canon stuff that barely resembles Sonic. You could have a cool game where the world is full of colorful pokemon looking OCs but it doesn't exist.
SA1 was the only time NPCs had any soul at all. They sucked every single time after.
sonic had humans since classic before you larp
>>581299809Yeah, and there's a demo on it too. They will stream it on the weekend. A shame the new Suikoden doesn't have a demo, but they will have one for the Silent Nigga Hills that no one cares. about.
>>581300913What about Unleashed?
>>581300423Once you give them some specific name, you validate views and perceptions of them in a way that warps how they are percieved. You arent supposed to see them as a group of creatures the way Pokemon are. Gerald was making the Ultimate Lifeform. Not the ultimate nermy or whatever.Sonic is allegorical an avatar for the human spirit. He isn't somr sperate species of creature liek elves or dwarves with fantasy racism against eachother.
>>581300931Me on the right
>>581300931I don't even use this argument since Eggman exists. Humans were already around. Forces and IDW are just the product of a shitty retcon trying to appeal to comicfags.
>>581301018Sonic should be more like a pokemon than a hello kitty
>>581300684No, what happens is ill be talking about something completely unrelated, you'll come in and make it about Forces Tails not punching things for the umpteenth time out of nowhere for no reason. Its annoying. How socially inept are you?This very convo is a perfect example.
>Sonic stood his date promise up for a whole yearI can't believe the IC and on brand Japanese manga gave us bestie content
>>581301018>He isn't some separate species of creatureThis got badly beaten in Sonic 2 and killed in Sonic 3&k when more and more anthropomorphic talking animals that look and act like him rapidly started appearing with every new game
>>581300991Unleashed NPCs are the worst. They're all fucking ugly and pandering to a shitty art style because Sega was ashamed of 06. The boring 06 humans were better because at least they weren't ugly. The SA1 humans were better. The shitty Forces NPCs were better. The deviantart IDW background OCs are all better than Unleashed. Fuck Unleashed. I hate Unleashed and this shitty era where everyone pretends it's a good game.
>>581300750>You could have a cool game where the world is full of colorful pokemon looking OCs but it doesn't exist.I don't see a universe where this is positive to the game experience in any way besides servicing furries and weirdos who want Sonic to be more grounded and believe he grew up in a suburban America household like them and went to school and shit and pays taxes.
>>581301292Sonic is a furball.
>>581301018>Sonic is allegorical an avatar for the human spirit.Every time windfags post they have to push their stupid propaganda everywhere
>>581298917If buy 'most' you mean literally just Cream's Mom and only Cream's Mom, and even then Sega never came out and said she can't fly.
>in-universe, a hedgehog, a cat and a chameleon all have the same identifiable visual characteristics showing they’re different versions of the same thing>no they totally aren’t in anyway genetically related bro trust me they just exist
>>581301162I actually disagree. Sonic should in fact be more like a Hello Kitty or Doraemon unitonically. Or Mickey in Kingdom Hearts or whatever.>>581301235I dont get what you're trying to say here.
>>581301018I'd argue that the thematic realities of Sonic are rather high concept for most children, who will simply see Sonic as another creature and that’s it. And even as an adult, you understand that he’s still a separate being despite your greater understanding.And simply having a name for them doesn’t automatically “kill the magic”. Plenty of characters like Knuckles and the Rogues implied greater communities of them long before Forces was ever a thought in anyone’s mind.
Background anthros do nothing but undermine the value of Sonic and his friends
>>581301468It's like English teachers claiming that the color of chair in a fictional story is deliberate symbolism by the author
>>581301167If I bring up Forces Tails, it’s because we’re talking about Tails or about Forces. You have created scenarios in your mind that do not exist, and you only find it “annoying” because you actually disagree with my points because you do not respect Tails as a character. You would not feel the need to reply to me EVEY SINGLE TIME if this was not the case
I like humans because i have nostalgias for the games where there's humans in them I don't really have deep reasons or logic regarding it
>>581301815Everything in the original vision is always defended, but I think there is nuance room
>world building should be retarded and make no sense because sonic is le special or something
>>581301721Literally the opposite >>581301869Thank you for telling it like it is
>>581301236>The shitty Forces NPCs were better. The deviantart IDW background OCs are all better than Unleashed.You lost me here.
the chaotix are literally the common animal people just like cream
that guy really doesn't like the unleashed npcs
>>581301721This. Sonic and his friends don't look unique among lookalike furries.
https://hastebin.ianhon.com/eae7To those of you interested in characterization, or Sega of America-led changes to Sonic Channel character bios, can you check out the link above? Please report any errors if you find them. Thanks.Sonic Channel descriptions remained virtually unchanged until 2022 and beyond, ramping up significantly in 2025.
>all these background humans undermine the value of supermanYou “people” are retarded
>>581301468Play the games, secondary.>>581301576All of the characters just have cartoon logic athleticism for the most part ot just skill. Sonic has superspeed and can turn super and Knuckles has super strength.Everyone else is just skill and cartoon logic. The exceptions are literally exceptions like Shadow who was made in a lab and is an alien. Silver who is from the future where people just have PK and Blaze who is born woth flames and ties to the Sol Emeralds as its guardian.Tails is just cartoon logic with his Tails and being smart. Amy legit just trains and uses a hammer. Vector just sings loud, Espio just does chameleon and ninja stuff. Rouge just kicks and uses her bat screech and hearing.Cream just uses hee big ears.
>>581296281I really like the horror grunge/military combination aesthetic in Shadow the Hedgehog. It sort of comes back from time to time but with a cleaner red look.
>>581301869I feel like I'm more anti-NPC than anti human as I don't like the blobian npcs either and have nostalgia for the games where it's just Sonic and friends vs Eggman/Monster of the week>>581301236>Unleashed NPCs are the worst. They're all fucking ugly and pandering to a shitty art style because Sega was ashamed of 06>The boring 06 humans were better because at least they weren't uglyInteresting
>>581302216wow the changes to amy are shit
>>581301582Wtf are you talking about.This whole convo is stupid. Imagine if in the LooneyTunes Show you had chimpanzee comicshitters asking you what the "looney tunes animal character are collectively called." and makong retarded arguments and bout species crossbreeding and interspecies racial tensions.
Being impressed that there’s animal characters standing next to humans is literally normie shit. I’m impressed by what the animal characters can do and what traits they have because I want more than jingling keys to entertain me
>>581302506>nostalgia for the games where it's just Sonic and friends vs Eggman/Monster of the weekSo Heroes?
>>581302639Heroes is my shit
>>581302216All of Shadow's are shit. Fuck lore team.
>>581302413Me too. If that was all Sonic was, I'd be in love with the franchise
>>581301693>Knuckles and the Rogues implied greater communities of them long before Forces was ever a thought in anyone’s mind.Those are ancient tribes though. There isnt anything even saying the Babylonians were a group of birds only. They arent even a single type of bird. Also the babylonians are aliens anyway.This is the problem in general. We shpuld even be thinking about this shit in these terms to begin with.And no one I ever met ever did until interacting with comiccels.The rogues are birds because its thematic. Birds are faster than land creatures and use winds and air currents so they make good airboard racer rivals against Sonic who is like the wind and fast on land.
>>581302584I like digging into the minor details of this series a lot but I think this particular issue is too diverse to make any headway. All of the Sonic games with background NPCs use an entirely different aesthetic so people could argue in circles about which is the most intrinsically Sonic.
>>581301869Its really not a nostalgia thing for me. I would rather no NPCs than have schrimblo background NPCs.If i have to let nostalgia shit get involved then I start getting anal about human artstyle like Unleashed vs Adventure.
>>581302276Superman being surrounded by nameless boring background humans is the whole point of mild mannered reporter Clark Kent, Sonic a cartoon cereal box mascot character you want to bury under a mountain of Doller store bootlegs
>>581302216>Tails>with his mechanical skills and brainsDon’t dismiss his flying. It should say “with his flyin and his brains”
>>581301990>everything needs autismo worldbuilding because I unitonically like slop like Harry potter and think everything needs to be western fantasy shit.>>581302152Amy is literally just some hedgehog girl that really likes Sonic and wants to go on adventures. Fang is just some bandit. How do you have even comonerer animal characters? It makes no fucking sense.Im not even against some situationally where it is useful to use them, but as a rule they make no sense at scale.
>>581302950Got a favorite non Sonic game with that style?>>581303224It is really weird seeing the Forces bug eyed NPCs still walking around to be honest
>>581302216Oh, and by the way:If you care about JP Sonic canon, you should be a bit afraid right now. I scraped every single change that has ever been made to the sonic.sega.jp character bios.Pic related is a graph of when those changes were.
>>581302276False equivalence. Superman isn't human. He would be undemined of the background was filled with kryptonians.
>>581302216>>581303552>lore team is wrangling the fuck out of japs and hiding it
>>581302216>shadow firstCmon, I dont hate you but you could at least try a little.
>>581303468NTA but Harry Potter isn't the best example for this argument. It also makes concessions for its world building just to suit the theming. Part of the appeal of Harry Potter is that any real kid could get a hogwarts letter, so the setting has to maintain the secret even though it doesn't make perfect sense when you really think about it.
>>581303738Anon. He's legitimately the first major change after 01-01-2025.
>>581302216>Once she sets her mind on something, she’ll go to any lengths—and today is no exception as she chases after Sonic, a girl head over heels in love with love itself. She calls herself Sonic’s girlfriend.>She’s an energetic and cheerful life of the party, with a competitive spirit and exceptional drive. When the going gets tough, she’ll pull out her trusty piko-piko hammer from who-knows-where and put on a performance that puts even the guys to shame.>Even Sonic is left flustered by her single-minded devotion and sheer momentum.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKeVwhzIwdsGn
>>581302152they're also actual characters with distinct personalities and designs and get to do shit sometimes.
arguments about which specific setting works best in sonic games are more interesting to read than arguments about the characterization in the comics because those always play out the same way
>>581302635None of this makes a real argument in favor of animal character NPCs over humans. Youre just pretending to be more sophisticated than you are for aledgedly not caring (even though youre filthy liar)
>>581304160Goodnight!
>>581302995None of the Rogues are implied to be an extinct people, and until they apparently changed it recently it could be argued that Knuckles was simply the last descendant of the Knuckles clan and not ALL echidnas. That’s how we got Chronicles at least.> We shpuld even be thinking about this shit in these terms to begin withI’m sure 99.9% of people approaching Sonic for the first time aren’t ruminating on the thematic complexities of why Sonic’s species doesn’t have a name. They are here for the pretty lights and spectacle. It’s not some sin on behalf of the fan that they come to hold certain ideas about the mechanics of the world they’re consuming and can’t help but impart other explanations into the gaps.
>>581303015That's not what you are doing. What you are doing is forcing the logic of shit like Harry potter and Tolkien to apply to everything becaus you're autistic and have no imagination.You probs play HoI4
>>581303529Gears of War
>>581304491The data for Chronicles suggests that all of the human NPCs were also going to be echidnas for some reason
>>581304584I wasn't the same anon, I lurked this convo.
>>581302276Literally the point of Supes is he is an alien trying to live among humans. Are you retarded?He actively presents himself to blend in on purpose because when he is Supes, he sticks out.And how does he stick out? Bright red and blue spandex and a cape.
>>581304616Perfect pick
This franchise is a mess. No vision. Just retards involved it fighting over influence.
>>581305163I like that the whole setting of each Sonic game is up to chance and never seems to settle. It's almost like Loony Tunes or something.
you have the boring human characters to do the boring human shit like fill in the background shots and talk about their feelings, if a new furry design isn't worth giving a name and hiring a voice actor for it's a shit design and not worth putting the game in the first place
>>581305163Sonic Team has some vision. SoAtroons are wrecking it.
>>581304638Maybe they cut an Echinda hub town? Probably realized the overall scope was too big somewhere mid-development.
>>581305302more like boing human characters
>>581305317That would explain why nearly all of the echidnas you actually see are covered in armor. There's goofy looking unmasked echidnas left out of the game.
just do this already
>>581305520Fuck off
>>581305520ugly diversityslop archieshit.>reddit filename.
>>581305520Why is there a villager from SATBK in the middle of a human city
TGS Bandai booth Gundam demo
>>581305656because sometimes everythingfags cannot help themselves
>>581304491>None of the Rogues are implied to be an extinct peopleThe whole deal is that Babylon garden was a lost city of their ancestors similar to how Knuckles was with his.They are a band of thieves and pirates on a ship. Its implied Jet's dad was the leader and he inherited leadership.They arent some thriving civilization.>>581304491>and until they apparently changed it recently it could be argued that Knuckles was simply the last descendant of the Knuckles clan and not ALL echidnas.Youre gonna bring up Chronicles and more comicshittery arent you>he doesOfcourse>I’m sure 99.9% of people approaching Sonic for the first time aren’t ruminating on the thematic complexities of why Sonic’s species doesn’t have a nameAnd then they come online and get told by people like you that they are "mobians" and "mobinis" and it props questions and arguments like the one we just had.There are legit people that get confused why Shadow is destroying the planet instead of just killing only the humans instead of animal characters like Sonic because of this crap because they thibl he is just racist against humans specifically.
Oh, I understand now... Saying you're an "Everythingfag" is just a less abrasive way for you to admit you are a mindless, insipid, hyperfixated consoomer that would shamelessly shill any sort of half-baked, beneath contempt, lambasted, pigshit content that sega or any 3rd party media company pulls out their convulsing, shitty rectum. The last thing this insidious and shitty fanbase needs is to force disingenuous, toxic positivity which ""everythingfags"" A.K.A, walking, biological, garbage disposals with legs want to push so badly in which is in order to be the ideal sonic fanboy is for you to love and worship all facets of the fanbase and franchise no matter how shit and contrived it is. Even ignoring the complaints leveraged by fans who refuse to associate themselves with them really shows how tasteless everythingfags are. They're only obsessed with trying to convert the whole world to their inane retarded, destructive and ultimately wrong opinions. Lobotomite furfags that calls themselves "sonic fans" often use this tactic to push other fans to like dated, westoid Sonic garbage and or often try hide behind everythingfaggotry to shill their awful ham-fisted and inept westshit fanfictions filled with incoherent drivel and nonsensical, edgy and asinine plot lines. All bottom of barrel garbage by talentless hacks that sega (and fans with adequate taste) rightfully doesn't want to associate with anymore. They can't refute or argue against any kind of sophisticated criticism thrown at them and call you a "jap purist" or "gatekeeper" because that's all their potato brained minds can equate up to. Not everyone wants to consoom your half-hearted and awful goyslop in your feeble hugbox. People can like and hate whatever part of the franchise they want.This is and always will be true and if you disagree you can cry about it and stick a grenade up your neovagina for all I care.
>>581305724It can be fun but inevitably you have to pick a theme and stick with it. You can't literally do everything.
>every soldier character who was ever in sonic works for GUN>every bird is part of the babylon rogues Don't like when this happens in fanon
>>581305874Ad hominem
>>581305874BASED BASED BASEDhttps://youtu.be/barWV7RWkq0
>>581305656>>581305651>>581305556>sthg turns on Joeadok
>>581306174Archie is to blame for this btw.
I don't like the SOAtranny boreteam era. Go back to Pontac & Graff.
>>581306325You've been forcing the meme for 8 years. You brought it on yourself.
>>581305874It's true it's all true
I miss the IP counterplease come back we miss you
>>581305303SoATroons ironically have more of a vision than ST because they want to make everything faggy with millennial writing and prop up lesbians
>>581306454How can you turn on Joeadok?
sthg: Archie Lore is not allowed but Shenmue is fine
>>581306870>sthgjpfags and sonamybesties opinions don't matter. we don't take them seriously neither
>>581306739Because it's not just a fun headcanon thing anymore, Archiefag bullshit is destroying the franchise's lore it's had for 20+ years.
>>581306947duofag...
>>581306947sonurgewestie...
>>581307028>>581307116lives rent free in your tiny sonamybrains.
>>581305813Similar but not the same, there are still other Rogues out there. And yes, Chronicles exists, it’s fine to bring it up.>And then they come online and get told by people like you that they are "mobians" and "mobinis" and it props questions and arguments like the one we just hadThere’s nuance to that assertion, but it’s nothing a quick explanation of the reason why Mobian even exists can’t fix.I feel the difference is that there’s the attitude of admonishing a fan for coming to very reasonable conclusions and declaring they stop wholesale than simply having a wider conversation about the franchise’s history. You can understand what the canon reality is without throwing away all the stuff you’ve come to like about various facets of the franchise.
Cospa is selling better SEGA stuff than SEGA itself.
>>581307407Sonic Chronicles isn't canon
sonamyfaggots also hate yuji naka. the father of segasonic which they pretend to love more than the rest. they hate everything that stands in the way of their retarded crackship. they hate archie because it has sonally and dismiss almost 300 issues because a select few had sonic and sally kissing and call that OOC, meanwhile they love everything about that japanese 90s manga with nicky because nicky and amy were a couple. then they shit on yuji naka because he said sonic would never settle down. they used to champion boom until they learned recently that their writers didn't take their crackship seriously and started calling it millennial slop (not that they are wrong here). sonamyfags are fake fans and I am not throwing this around as a shitpost. they only their ship, they don't care about sonic.
>>581307738What the fuck are you doing Duofag
>>581306739Because we're done compromising. The west (SoA and their toadies) have waged war on the franchise. Either westshit fanfiction dies or the original japanese version dies. This is what the former started.
>>581307781Trying to gain some kind of leverage after his weird marvel fic got vaporized by the manga.
>>581307781i am not duofag and i dont care about sonurge. go ahead and prove me wrong>>581307907jokes on you i like the manga.
>calls Amy a stalker>Likes a version of Jean Grey who literally stalked and sexually harassed Spider-man to the point that it's a plot point that he feels raped
>>581308080It's okay when Jean does it because I hate Amy
>>581308080He doesn’t care about jeane, he only pushes her because alot of people rightfully hate her and thus causes a stir
>>581304231Still remember how much I hated Vector's voice when the 4kids cast took over as a kid.
>>581305520No compromise. Generic blobians should not exist. Only main characters and humans.
Some of you are way too dogmatic and utilitarian about the funny blue rat series.
>>581309705>getting dogmatic about a dead Jew on a stick: ok>getting dogmatic about a blue rat: not okDouble standards much?
Why is it that IDW and Flynn's archie run were used for years to rip Pontaff writing and the mainline games to absolute shreds, and eventually get their guy installed into the games, but when BoC is even simply compared to IDW that's suddenly not allowed? They just don't like it when it happens to them and their flavor of slop.
>>581309795…What?
Someone leak the next game.
>>581309901There isn't a game to leak lol.
>It's okay to shit on the writing of 06>it's okay to shit on pontaff>it's okay to shit on boom shadow>it's okay to shit on idw shadow but only if you blame sega mandates >it is never ever okay to shit on idw if its not about mandates
>>581310056Yes there is.
>>581309796They're afraid that Imada will be promoted to writer and lore expert, replacing Ian and the rest. They know their own tactics.
>>581310112What is the game?
>>581310072 Pontaff and the people involved in 06 and Boom didn't try to be "friends" with the fandom to deflect criticism.
>>581310143What I want to know is how is it possible that Sonic Team just can't say no to SOA and the lore team. What's preventing Sonic Team from doing so? They're the ones who develop the games
more people from here should just start posting their complaints and push backs on twitter/x. make an alt if you have to, i know most people on here are definitley also there they just don't wanna use their main accounts for this stuff. i like this place and all but the thing is, twitter is literally where sega looks at the most for feedback and where most what's considered the main fanbase discussion happens right now. it's strategic to at least have some sort of presence there.
>>581310382>make an alt if you have toSockpuppets are cringe.
>>581310382I've been trying to tell you guys this for like 3 years now, just got told to kill myself lol
>>581310382kill yourself sister>>581310484correct
>>581310382Fuck off Krack I'm not unemployed like you
>>581310465i guess, i'm not suggesting people do that but if someone really doesn't want this sonic stuff appearing on their regular accounts for whatever reason just make a seperate one. it's better than nothing.
>>581310654Oh, you mean like that.Yeah, fair then.
The only way there might be a bit of a change is if more people say something on social media. They will tell you it is hopeless to complain. But how do you think the meta era happened? Complaining on the internet. Shelving Sonic's friends? Complaining on the internet. Getting rid of Pontaff? Complaining on the internet. Getting rid of Amy's love for Sonic? Complaining on the internet. Redesigning Movie Sonic? Complaining on the internet. There is a common thread here. It is that if fans bitch hard enough and loud enough Sega will eventually give up.
Why is it always "Fuck off Krack" not "How are you doing Krack"?
>>581311021Because the person saying the former phrase is either Slashy or Violet
>>581310938Things are looking promising with the overwhelmingly positive reception to Amy's debut in BOC. If people keep this up, Nu Amy will be gone and the real Amy will return
Seeing AI art being used at TGS makes me feel sad. Also, some AI games...
You could be like hey man I really like those Sonic ice creams with gumball eyes and someone will be like FUCK OFF KRACK and then you'll be like wait I didn't even know that was a Krack related thing and then you'll hear about the time Krack bombed the capital of scotland and then they're typing your address
>>581310938>But how do you think the meta era happened?because of journalist?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i2z761q9PAthis was validation to them
>>581311569AI should only be used in games for translation from one language to another
>>581311628I did that though. Scotland had it coming.
>>581307116kek coining
Barryanon, are you here?
>>581311994Lucky timing
Baryonyx
>>581311708There are a few AI games and tools being displayed at TGS, and a few booths use obvious AI art.
>>581311671Was Jim Sterling responsible too?
>>581311569AI art really reminds you that some people just don't care
>>581307116KEK
>>581312103I won’t be able to post in the whiteboard this weekend, so I made your request
>>581312321Holy shit
>>581312321He’s so beautiful… thank you so much!
>selfreplying>self taking requests
>>581312487If i could draw this entire thread would be filled with Barry
Drawfags are so pathetic
>>581312487You are dead inside
>>581307738>>581308007kys dbs spic
>>581311569>>581311708>>581312140You are going to be seen as an out of style unc soon. Just accept it.
This retard simply delivered a "draw request" to himself. Jesus.
Most obvious samefag award for 2 years in a row
>>581313007>You are going to be seen as an out of style unc soon. Just accept it.
>>581312163he turning into a tranny is divine wind punishment
>>581313074You're saying Barryanon is a drawfag?
>>581313226Do you automatically assume that an anon posting one character once every now and then is a characterfag now? He might as well be one of the faggots spamming gay catbox links all the time since only faggots like Barry.
worst characterfags and why is it tailsfags?
i love and hate this franchise at the same time
>>581313458they are the most dishonest
>>581313007I don't even know what that's supposed to mean.
>>581313458Amybestie
>>581311569right now there still a push against AIwait next or 2028 and people will bend and take it in the ass just like they did with dlc and paid subscriptions>herro miart lmao
>>581313865Kishimoto would be proud
>Sonurgetard still talking shit after manga btfo
Does sonic's voice tell kishimoto what porn to watch?
>>581314030
>>581314085no, because he would've also been caught liking gay porn
>>581314239Is this a metaphor of Jpslop and BoC?
>>581313923>there still a push>wait next or 2028
>kishimoto what the hell is 3-5 , the drift is trash and you make this abomination! get your shit together or you will end like that genie and it didn't ended well for him.
>>581313519You are the wind
Do you think Sonic tortured him in his dreams too
Have the advance games gotten wide screen recompiles yet?
Anyone else find it weird they the intro cutscene for Glyphic Canyon uses a version of the theme for Sky Troops
>>581315025Perhaps Sonic Team lost the source code. I don't even know how that's possible but I've heard that this is why SA1, SA2, and Heroes haven't gotten wide screen recompiles either
>>581313923Level 5 backtracked on AI after the whole incident with their video. And there's a lot of hate over it in Japan and overseas, so I think companies will push for it, but people will not accept it. Well, gotta wait until next year and see what TGS will be like, whether the volume of AI things will increase or not.
Coco Acorn
>>581315923Very cute
>>581315923>no glovesSLUT!
Best place to read Blade of Courage? Thought now would be a good time to catch up, I NEED REAL AMY IN MY LIFE
>>581317140https://mangadex.org/title/9a820bfd-7f10-4655-a857-0eed371549ef/sonic-and-the-blade-of-couragestill support the manga when its release offcially please pleasei think its up to chapter 3 in the app
>>581317302Thanks man will do!
He will, in fact, not financially support the manga.
https://x.com/okidolo0oo/status/2100169940921893203?s=46&t=aHNsfNrRVc7uppEuyFpRfA
>>581317705You don't know that
hyper realistic sonic
white cartridge with "Sonic" written with a marker
>>581313543Surgewestie
Sonic characters if the series was made by f*rries
>>581317302I want to own it physically.
Why does the Surgefag pick fights with Amyfags? Surge is never going to have shipping hints with Sonic.
>>581317705me too
>>581320319>Why does the Surgefag pick fights with Amyfags?Desperation. It thinks that if it makes enough noise, eventually Ian will notice it.
This general is going to be so funny next time Surge blushes
>>581321354Who? Sorry, this isn't /co/, so I dunno any of your fanfic OCs.
>>581321501>Bestie seething this hard because another girl is the main female of idw
WAAOH
What's the chance next game is announced or given info at TGS?
>>581321561Not your boogeyman, sorry to burst your bubble.
When will besties accept that Sonic doesn't love Amy? He avoided her for a year
>>581322139>nooooooo he akshually loves her he is just a not ready shyboy who doesnt want to be in a relationship right now but deep deep down even deeper than the mariana trench there's a 0.1% chance he actually thinks she is cute stop saying he doesn't love her stooooop sally is not canon and sonurge is a fanfic
>>581320319Shippers that aren't into sonamy always pull this, back in 00s it was Sally(no one thinks it was canon for gamenic, but the fact there was someone who ''surpassed amy'' in printed sonic media was enough), it was Blaze a bit later but now akinori confirmed Blaze wasn't actually being pushed as a love interest and now it's Surge although for surge its just literally one person actually taking it seriously and spamming it for attention.
>>581322139>BestiesAbout that anon...
>>581321354can she be a character worth keeping first before thinking about shippingslop?
>>581320319amyfags picked on him unprovoked 2 years ago and he's still angry about it since then
>>581322278Yeah, ''best friend'' or even ''friend'' is how they get around implying romance in a franchise not allowed to deep dive into it.
>>581322278It's weird to call your girlfriend Bestie
>>581322278It's so gross that this is how it had to be done. I'm not against Whispangle but everyone talks about these characters as if it's a matter of fact that they're lesbians in love with each other. That would be cool but this isn't in the fucking comic. We have to read through the lines and imagine what the author is hoping to imply instead of what they're actually saying to each other. This is so stupid.
>>581320319They literally pick fights with everything, still don't know what silverfags have to do with them (my guess powerscaling)
>>581322414not her girlfriend
>>581322537This franchise doesn't delve into romance openly in general so people take any crumbs as romance pushing, this is the same comic where even very miniscule shit like blaze blushing in one page or sonic saying her and silver make a good duo had people debating for 2-3 years even when neither of those will be openly pushed.another thing is that idw is genuinely boring and slop so people talk about shipping out of boredom rather than the actual story, BoC is generic 00s kids anime plot but it definitely mogs.
>>581322363Well, what does that make of this panel from the DC crossover.
>>581323054(me)>>581322537Also yuri is very niche compared to both straight and yaoi but it has more irtue signal points, so beyond just shipfags being shipfags, people feel obligated to artificially talk about it without actually caring for either the characters, their dynamic or even caring about shipping them genuinely.
>>581323283...this is photoshopped, you moron.
>>581323403>Replying to bait
>>581323403Not the "Bestie" part.
>>581323708Core sex
>>581322537Much like gay marriage in general, the whole point of making Tangle and Whisper a couple was just to scam money out of retards.
Metal Legion ended and nobody cares
>>581323708
>Blaze melty
>>581274730Is this a hot-take? I think Whisper the Wolf is the worst modern character in the franchise.>"Oh, she's not THAT bad..."Really, nigga? Let's see what she accomplishes:>ability is just a stand-in for the Forces Avatar, who was a total bro who got shit done and just peaced out>stupidly unsafe-edgy trauma-victim backstory that constantly reminds us that Eggman's war had consequences even though the franchise is trying to move past that>stupidly unsafe-edgy villain who attacks with a goddamn realistic stabby-stabby combat knife to the point he had to be written out>does not elevate other characters in any way whatsoever, particularly dragging down both Silver the Hedgehog and Tangle the Lemur and making them OoC>crying "uUuUuU i'M sToIc BuT aLsO cRy At ThE DrOp Of A hAT" lesbian>the howler-monkey would've been a better character and she's dead for no reason!I can't think of a single thing done right by this character, the whole comic sharply went downhill after her introduction.
>Hi, let's talk about cool Sonic characters like>AMYAMYAMYAMYAMY
idw isn't a sonic comic. it's a crying lesbians and gay silver comic
>>581324959It isn't really, i think IDW is slop but the criticism would PR better if it wasn't about nonexistant ''gayness'' instead of what is actually shit about it.
>>581322139It's a cat and mouse, westie.
>>581324342
>>581325490Chadver. Shitaze.
>>581325490Japanese people really do not like Rouge
>>581326097She wouldn't surpass silver either way don't get me wrong, but being a hedgehog and being a male are both auto-boosts in this type of series.
>>581326182too old
delete silver and blaze
>>581326182I don't dislike Rouge but the main reason people ike her in the west is mostly because of either gooning or shipping, japanese aren't into furries and much and shadria isn't shamed there so the reasons people like her in the west don't apply there. besides these meme reasons, her personality type isn't popular compared to cutesy types or shy awkward/cool reserved ones.
>>581324274I'm waiting for the preview pages of chapter 90, don't care about cape shit
>>581326445Honestly silver would likely surpass Tails in popularit if he gets in anything casuals care about, he is declining in popularity and most of it is coming from legacy rather than genuine investment.
Sob sounds! Nearby...Whisper the Only Actual Crying Lesbian!Too sad for the naked eyeWhisper the Only Actual Crying Lesbian!Whisper! She can whimper too!Whisper! She's got a gunshe can't use!Whisper! She's IDW's Only Actual Crying Lesbian!She's the saddest thing alive! She's the fattest thing alive! She's the baddest thing aliiiiiiiiiive!
>>581326182She's pretty mid, just good for gooning.
>>581326445Remove sibling-coding Sonails.
foxes>birds
Hold on, Froggie! I'm CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCFCCCCCCCCCCFHZVJKCVKLCCCCUMMMMMY
>>581326545you are right but I feel his legacy power is way too strong. Silver could win in a poll if he got any meaningful exposure. But for selling merch and toys Tails is better
Here, have a Sonic pic /sthg/Took me about 40 minutes, I messed up the color halfway through lol
Soon.
>>581327212For a while but when the young zoomers and alpha get older they will probably put more money into silver stuff
>>581327274Nice >>581327301And yet it'll be better than Sonic Prime
>>581327307that could be 10 years from now on
>>581327301That Taz-mania episode were they show a show about Taz to the channel's president and he keeps adding changes until it becomes babby slop and says "now that's a cartoon"his generation grew up watching mickey mouse and bugs bunny btw
>>581327274My husband looks cute!
>>581327403Fitting for the ''future themed'' character to get his peak like 20-30 years after his debut lol
>>581327274>>581327365>>581327423>two people fell for itTHE EGGMAN EMPIRE BEGINS NOW!HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAYOU'RE NEXT KRACK
>>581313458Because they're either giant neckbeard pedophiles that nobody wants to share their space and oxygen with or obnoxious, self-inserting, narcissistic manchildren that expect people to tolerate their endless train of autistic headcanons and make believe delusions to justify their character being more important than he actually is. Tailsfags can't read the room to save their lives.
>>581327274AI slop
>>581327543Too late I already owned you Krack
Krack is an AI from a parallel future(You) cannot defeat (Her)
>>581327274>2nd row of spines on his back>Shoe buckle not aligned >Right leg coming out of his dick while left leg and shoe contorts in You didn't fool me nigger.
>>581327523thanks for saying thanks to the AI, making it waste resources so google is less profitable is something we all should try to achieve. Thanks
>>581327850>>Right leg coming out of his dickyeah i just noticed too is this considered stealth-porn?
>>581327996No problem, I’ll make sure to thank it twice next time just to really tank the quarterly earnings.
>>581327274>>581327523>>581327543La creatura.
>>581328234aight senpai bout to run over this cunty cat for near giving me a seizure brb
I for one welcome ai
>>581328352its even fast ingame lmao, gif speed is capped on most browsers to avoid it eating all ram, i just found it funny how the character vibrates in this chao garden i'm using in some places.plus honey cute
>>581328445cute, moar
>>581328445Never mind
so is honey supposed to be short or was that just a scribbles thing
>>581328701what u using
>>581328701All that, and you chose fucking shitaze? never saw such wasted potential holy cow
I think sonic sucks!
>>581329089Sucks what? The breath out of Amy? If so, yes!
>>581328825Gpt>>581329082Forgive me...
>>581329424>Gptinteresting, it emulates a render well, should be white tho.
>>581328096>>581327850>>581327274There fixed, well except the leg, that’s too much workhttps://files.catbox.moe/z5lkn5.png
Can you render my drawing in AI? I hate coloring.
>>581329424Red spats make Amy look slimmerBlack spats are here to block you from fanserviceRed spats are better
>>581329635PaintBucket Tool
>>581329424need some nice white panties
I want a render of upgraded max sex level Amy
>>581328817Imagine Shadow sucking not one, but two fingers at once
>>581329837
>>581329540>>581329751Yeah, it refuses to show white panties cause the censor recognizes it But you can color them anything else ig. Speaking of, here's what it gave me when I asked to make Cream's dress "shorter"https://files.catbox.moe/a2jvt2.pngPerhaps I was too hasty in saying AI was bad.....
>>581329743Woah... *paints the entire background*
>>581307407>there are still other Rogues out thereThere aren't. What you mean is babylonions. And to that we dont know if there are any self identified babylonuons left besides the Rogues.>Chronicles exists, it’s fine to bring it up.Youre bringing it up divorced from a LOT of context lol.>There’s nuance to that assertionNo there isnt. I see it happen all the time.>nothing a quick explanation of the reason why Mobian even exists can’t fix.Holy shit dude so werre just gonna lie? Look at this long ass convo we already have? Its a genie in a bottle situation. Tons of people who don't even read archie comics call thrm that and ask these questions as is and treat it as an "issue" and do so subornly because its what they became used to.
>>581329935A shadow getting fucking for every occasion
"Eggman!" *klonk* "I said NO!"D'oh! I'll win your heart yet, pretty Seira!>Hours later, Robotnik was found dead in his crashed mobile. The cause of death was determined to be blunt-force trauma to the head; the murder weapon, a lead pipe pulled out of hammerspace. The president's daughter was taken into custody and is awaiting trial.
>>581329635Your drawing is just too strong for AI...Another point for humans!
Don't want to flood the thread with too many of them so here's a last one of Elise.This is fun, but at the end of the day drawfags are still better
>>581307407>I feel the difference is that there’s the attitude of admonishing a fan for coming to very reasonable conclusions and declaring they stop wholesale than simply having a wider conversation about the franchise’s history.Except it isn't. I just explained why it isn't. It's just this cancer that exists because of archiefaggotry.
>>581329980
>>581329942very cute, and yeah its why i prefer local models
>>581330142Tails! You're more disgusting than usual! BURN IT!!
I LOVE AMY ROOOOOOOOOSE
>>581330142Because the faggot machine can't find enough examples for unique poses.Or maybe it's because i never clean my drawings cuz i love xerox disney drawings.
>>581330419Ok Shadow (x years later in game universe)
>>581329609fucking KEK but can you actually fix the shoes plz
The purists are awake it seems.
This cutscene gets shat on for "SONIC HELP ME" but I think Classic appearing out of nowhere is the worse thing If you didn't play Mania, he literally just hops out of a portal with zero excuses or anything given. It's the worst case of a Deus Ex Machina in the franchise
>>581330541Maybe that's an alternate timeline where Sonic got his foot amputated from eating too many chili dogs
Most of the IDWfags are spiritually socialistThey can't stand being compared to BoC, because they hate competition. They can't understand that one media being better than other can lead to that other one to improve, to be a better product. Instead, they just want everything to just to exist on its own merit
>>581330574Are you still hearing voices in your head?
>>581330541Fine finehttps://files.catbox.moe/njy5id.png
>>581331357What a slutThinkin about KNUCKLES THE ECHIDNA obviously
>>581330945The entire franchise would be better if Sonic fans held it to a higher standard and Sonic creators were capable of meeting that standard. Everything from the games to the comics to the cartoons are all doing the minimum if that
>>581294951Nah, tons of troon types actually like amy and self insert as her simply because of over-the-top girliness or campiness, stuff like that is actually common with female celebs or influencers appealing to LGBT stuff. Dudebros waifufagging about sally and blaze because its socially approitate are more of the porblem than gays.>>581301018I get what you are saying but they made so much of the animal people and made stories mostly revolve around between them that people expect them to be like an actual species rather than manifestations of spirit, wishes/dreams etc. like something like NiGHTS is and even shit like NiGHTS or that my melody anime have names for the inhabitants of the dream world even if they don't autistically delve into the biology or race shit.
>>581331602>girlboss character that dresses like a dude and an androgynous cat with no tits Lol
>>581331520He should save the milk then, Knuckles needs all that protein
>>581331692Most of her fanbase wants her to be part of sonic's harem rather than being invested in any kind of shit you are talking about. and the truun blazamyfags aren't the ones shittalking about amy or sonamy. you're making this about LGBT shit to agendafag about it rather than actually observing a trend.
>>581331357>non-buckle side
>>581331920Sonic looks better when the buckle shows up, even if it's the wrong side
Mommy
>>581324560Amy is cool
>>581330770He also does nothing >Game is about the POWER OF FRIENDSHIP>everyone is useless without Sonic Nice game Sega
On tape: rare actually biblically accurate Surge
>>581332398It's also genuinely cool because of the emotional weight.
Stacyiona!
>Amy humiliating other characters in IDW is bad>Amy humiliating other characters in BoC is good>because...
>>581332526Took me a second to recognize this as a Warioware reference.
I don't like Bait that much
>>581332579KIN-Oh wait this isn’t the mangaCRINGE
>>581332526cute, a warioware with sonic characters would be fun
>>581332579Because they can't handle the fact IDW Amy is a good character and it hurts their feelings when you bring her up.Meanwhile BoC Amy is cringey af and a reminder of the bad times
>>581332560There is no emotional weight in that page, the bell was just falling and Rinrin thought it was enough to defeat Amy
>>581332526Did Joe make this
>>581332773>bad timesjust admit you didn't like amy and want a different character
Surge eat garlic raw and drop big stinky nuclear fart bombs. This is her move set in the new Super smash bros game
if you distinguished IanMY and EvanMY you would be correct 100% of the time, because post-30 IDWmy is AmyFrontiersMY isn't Amy>>581332773>reminder of the bad timesshut the fuck up lettuce
>>581332830She pulls through despite gettting teary eyed because her determination and optimism is that strong and gives everyone else happiness.
I WILL PISS ON THE MOON
SONIC? WHERE IS SONIC???
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>>581332872>>581332979>why yes I love seeing Sonic visually disturbed at Amy obsession with him>I love Sonic putting away his shopping compromise with Amy for a whole year>I’M SUCH A HAPPY KEK
>>581330770>the character introduction is a deus ex machina if you ignore the context for how he showed upSo many layers of pseudposting
>>581329310I miss doing these.
>>581332990Should have killed the rat and heal Sonic herself then.
>>581333104and? do i judge the character and my enjoyment based on how approitate my ship is to twitter shipfags?
>>581333298Then don’t get mad when people call Amy a stalker
IDA Amy is real Amy.BoC Amy is fake Amy.
>>581331602>I get what you are saying but they made so much of the animal people and made stories mostly revolve around between them that people expect them to be like an actual species rather than manifestations of spirit, wishes/dreams etc.None of ghis follows from the premise. You dont even need to get the latter for people to not do the former.No one does this with stuff like LooneyTunes or MickeyMouse or Animaniacs.They do it with Sonic because of comicfag autism and TMNT.
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>>581330314Cool, thank you bro i didn't see it.
>>581333423I don't really think they need a name either but LooneyTunes characters are more like funny animals than having deep symbolism or story around them and their animalistic traits are played up far more so the audience registers them as funny animals rather than people
>>581333378I get mad at it because it's fake moralfagging about obvious comedic gags and also isn't even actual stalking. not because i think sonic has to bang her so i can defeat Sonally/Sonaze/Sonadowfags on twitter.
Amy
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>>581332579>>Amy humiliating other characters in BoC is goodwhen did this happen? I mean besides your head
>>581280728migrate
>>581333262That isn't the point, she saw the rat lashing out because of her own sadness.
>>581334105Why didn't you post KNEELnic the worm?
>>581332579>humiliating Amy doesn't do this in BoC.My problem with the scene is that its just kind of clumsy and meaningless. It doesn't feel like its there for any reason than to superficially try to make Amy seem valued and competent rather than just, letting her do something that actually matters.Also it just doesn't look cool the way the BoC one does? Technically speaking the ODW one is a "more impressive feat" and yet it doesn't feel as cool because coolness doesn't come from just saying your stick is bigger than other people's.It has to mean something.>>581333417IDWfags never beating the allegations. See someone post a panel of Amy being cool and immediately make it an IDW vs BoC thing out of nowhere.
>>581333429I love the way Imada draws Amy. Really captures her personality.
>>581333635>LooneyTunes characters are more like funny animals than having deep symbolism or story around them and their animalistic traits are played up far more so the audience registers them as funny animals rather than peopleExcuses. People still dont do it with Tiny Toons, Animaniacs and Mickey Mouse or Donald Duck. Or even shit like Franklin, Little Bear or Rupert.This isn't a consequence of somrthing the series has done, the way you are trying to insist. It's a consequence of having begged the question to begin with and created bad habits.
>>581333635>LooneyTunes characters are more like funny animals than having deep symbolism or story around themI used The Looney Tunes Show for a reason.Hell even spinoffs like Loonatics and BabyLooneyTunes which are more grounded and dont do that dont have this issue.
>>581330770It’s also the whole reason “SONIC HELP ME” happened, it gave him a reason to randomly come in and save the day when it should’ve been Tails himself dealing with it. Garbage scene all around
>>581332526nice
