Visual Novel General #7891This general is for the discussion of English-translated Japanese visual novels.All posting of untranslated visual novels belongs on >>>/jp/E-celeb shitposting is not allowed.Kindly use spoiler tags appropriately when discussing plot spoilers to facilitate smooth discussion.>Having trouble with your VN? Try the following before you ask for tech support:1. Be in Japanese locale2. Read the Readme3. Check https://rentry.org/4chan-vn-help4. Copy error messages with CTRL+C and paste them with CTRL+V into DeepL5. Google it>FAQs, Recommendations, and Other Useful Things:https://chartanon.github.io/moechart/https://files.catbox.moe/j3dd0n.pnghttps://github.com/marisukukise/japReader>Need a novel with a specific element?https://vndb.org/g>Download Links:https://rentry.org/4chan-vn-linksPrevious thread: >>581263293
Hiro x Ema forever
This should be an imouto thread
1st for Sherry!
Please buy Study Steady
Good morning, /vn/!
>Akechi didn't actually hate Joker, he was just obsessed with him>Joker goes to bed thinking about AkechiWhy didn't you guys tell me Persona is actually a homoge???I can feel my heterosexuality vanishing the longer I play.
where my lil friends at? not enough blogposting
>>581298162It's a chuunige.
i want to have sex with a witch
Any VNs like In Search of Lost Time?
Kimika is so precious. She doesn't discriminate against the horizontally challenged
>>581297403Be nice to your fellow prisoners.
>>581297403Be nice to your fellow gravitationally gifted
>>581297403momma
Happy anniversary day to AI the Somnium Files, and may everyone have good dreams from now on.
Kimika's breasts are getting larger
LIAR SOFT ANON'S SHITPOSTING WAS REAL. THIS IS NOT A DRILL GEEEEEEEEEG
>>581299170He will never forgive the Liar Soft anon LOL
>>581299170
>>581299170>south americans hating each other and their own heritagekek
No...Not the color red...
>>581298395same
>>581299518he cute
>>581299518Sherry won
Introducing to you the latest Milk Factory heroine
>>581299689>Sherry wonThe Japanese GOTY!
>>581299483
>coquimba btfo for the second time todayOof
>>581299713SEXO
What if I told you Sumika and Rokuhara were childhood friends?
>my high quality discussion post was posted after the thread changeHonestly, every moege should have violent rape and body modification in the second half, if you play badly at the very least.
>>581300063That sounds kino af anon
>>581300003Then my heart goes out to the guy even more.
>>581299139I also forgot to add
The people want Oretsuba next week so they will get Oretsuba next week (with a working patch)
>>581300063are you 15 years old dude
>>581300267I pray for Oretsuba's arrival before bed every night
Huge breasts really do make everything better
>>581300298meant >>581300239
>>581300267Do you even need a translation patch for it. Seems like something Negromasa enthusiasts could enjoy as is.
>>581300340Rokuhara with huge tits when
>>581299139>>581300239Isn't this the game with the LGBT people are all smart line
>>581300340I'm curious about really flat kimika with big ass
I might have to go jerk off with how their breasts keep getting larger and larger>>581300456Never ever
ABdul cord send their regards
>>581300539saggy breasts tag where
>>581300515Yes, it's the game with an eulogy dedicated to Umineko.
>>581300537Sumika forgot her tentacles
>>581300727AAAAAAAAAAH SEEEEEEEEEEEX
>>581297719wasn't that one already translated
>>581300671As a gay person myself this just seems really preachy
>>581300940Favorite Ooe LI?
Kimika in her rebellious phase
NTR is in all plotge because it adds complexity to the story.
>581301171Punkmika is kinda hot. God bless whoever engineered the desk to be so sturdy
>>581300456
>>581300727>>581301171>>581301348Kimika perfect body
>>581301392
Okay, this one is a cursed Kimika. I'm so sorry. I accidentally generated an American Kimika
>>581301518The kimikas would be more enjoyable if most of the frame wasnt consistently taken with a samey pointless rokuhara.
>>581301643his abs make me wet
We need Kimika goth phase
>>581301518You need to stop
>>581301643Is this better? I put a bit more effort into his posing
Hehe...
>>581301348foote
>581302181Shit. Wrong eye color
Okay. This is the last one for now. My masterpiece. This has to be my best gen
i wish i were underage so i could find entertainment for weeks in something like this
>>581302760if you don't like it maybe you shoulud hang out somwhere else????
>>581300003>Sumika with tightsThis is your best Gen
>>581303092She's no Kimika though
Koharu Scientist
>>581303480chubby heroine ge?
Tell me about MAO. Why did they translate Black Sheep town? Every other release they've done has had an English translation they were trying to blow out, but then there's this semi-obscure untranslated Setoguchi game they went for. Why did they break their modus operandi for it?
>>581196249If you're still here here's a list of positively reviewed untranslated vns which I thought might be worth reading and what I found interesting about their descriptions that I made a few years ago in anticipation of advancements in llm translation capabilities: https://files.catbox.moe/gs5svj.txt
>>581305036someone asked for the best VN to get translated and he fulfilled the request
>>581305280Damn, and here I thought they had someone who actually liked visual novels in the group and wanted to read it
Coco time
why did they give her the ddlc-yuri expression
>>581306835why did you buy this shameless slop moneygrab
>>581306865You don't need to buy it to play it and it's a kamige that's better than your favorite visual novel.
>>581306865i like moeka and she has a route now
>>581306963damn really?
>>581307029sadly you don't get to kill mayuri in it, but yeah an actual route in a separate worldline
lelouch vi britannia commands you... play a keyge NOW!
I miss Totsuraba
>>581306929>steins;shit>better than KINOmasa
Chuunige is dead.Plotge is dead.The future is bleak.
I miss Lessons in Love
>>581307080will have a reason to reread this kino by the looks of it
>>581297403>heroine has natural blonde hair>100% Japanese
>>581307686We call these creatures 'gyaru' or fake white women.
>>581306835They should've made a well written sequel instead of milking steins;gate again with shitty side stuff
>>581307925remember s;g 0? chiyomaru can't write to save his lifesteins gate was a miracle
>>581307984zero is shit because no maho route
>>581308078there is no romantic routes in itthat's one of the reasons it sucks
>>581308161I got my romantic fill from when he briefly went back to Alpha worldline and said goodbye to Kurisu again and also his general interactions with Amadeus
>>581307984>remember s;g 0?I'd rather not but yeah, the writing was a mess. I don't think the writers know what they're doing.
>>581308160>didn't touchdoesn't count
>over half the posts itt are the same aislop being spammed over and over and over
>>581308304KOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOK
>>581307984s;g's virtues are in spite of chiyomaru not because of him
i just want a smart tsundere girlfriend who shitposts on 4chan with meis that so much to ask for?
>>581308235the only good scene, that lasted 5 seconds
The amount of semen this giant can ejaculate
>>581308524get this 3d garbage out of here
>>581308568holy sissy let me guess your favorite genre is yuri
>>581308617nah, romance
>>581308617kill yourself yuritroonkill all 3dpd whores
Rance has some of the coolest villains
>>581308781>kekwhy did the translator make him use 4chan lingo
Thursday and I'm unemployed and bored
where does she rank on the kurokami pantheon
>>581309257Holy kot
>>581309270shes ranked on worthless cuckshitge
>>581309270fuck off
>>581309645get 'em coquimbitches out of here
ges where the heroine grows up through the story?
Boku no Hitori Sensou - My One-ManContinued from >>581263946
>>581310541
>>581310541what's aniki
>>581310662
>>581297403Natural blonde heroines are genuinely the best heroines
shirokamis are the best
>>581310754Aniki is like "bro" in a gangsta slang(it's also prominently used to address Rudolf, the oldest brother, by his siblings in Umineko, who are supposed to be Yakuza).Eiji is changing to use Renji-neesan here, and there's some subtlety around him refusing to just address him as "Renji"; with more drama script setting Eiji apart as a social misfit to come.
>>581311767i would've translated that as broski
>>581310754It’s what boomers used to learn Japanese back in the day
>>581311748
>>581312050that sounds gay as fuck
>>581312113Where are her honkers
>>581309645tfw you will never have with a witch
>>581309645witch on the left is mine
18 going on 35
>>581311895I guess you could do that but where is the Polish supposed to come from kek?The honorifics are mostly left as they are from the Japanese, also with Kudou-sensei / -chan.More noteworthy in this scene as far as the translation is concerned is that the Japanese uses a weak form of first person ("boku") setting Eiji as a narrator which is part of a Looseboy twist that readers had complained about as it's not really story relevant.
>>581308380That's why we need KINOnance blogpostation to save the thread
Die.
Do you think Hiro will make Manosaba references in Mahomura and Hanomaze?
>>581313443Think fast!
>>581312880retarded newfag
>>581313572I think she'll make references to her absent girlfriendAlso, why is it called Mahomura and not Manomura?
>>581313584
>>581313862kek>Also, why is it called Mahomura and not Manomura?https://vndb.org/v56862The vndb entry lists both as aliases, but I suppose they wanted to distinguish Mahomura from Manosaba somewhat.
>>581313862Manomura spoiler#まのむらネタバレ
>>581307458Acacia carries.
Where's her game NN?
>>581315380December 15th. Trust the plan.
>>581313857kys you psycho
I'm so tiredLife is hardTraps are soft
the battler harem
>>58131693150 Paise with the rhymes
MUMBAImasa
>>581311748Does she just not say Senpai in LMAO's translation? LMAO, what a downgrade
I THINK it was dakimakura announcement, but I honestly don't remember rn
Honorifics are gayI love localization
>>581317350Wanted to reply to previous previous thread>>581262606
>>581317079Indian coin? What?Am I Indian 50 cent? What a bizzare thing to say
>>581312867
>>581317738No, he was asking 50-Paise from you. Please understand, Rajesh is very poor
>>581317004GIWTWM
>>581317738>life is hardhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D3crqpClPYYeah, it's a 50 Cent lyric
>>581317940That's the girl from the VN that won the Excellence Award
>>581318404Just one of them!
does anyone here read visual novels?
>>581318516no, vns are for babies and manchildren
>>581318516Nothing good I want to read right now
>>581318590This but unironically in the case of chuunishit
>>581318516I'm going to finish Trap Yuri Tempest demo tonight or tommorow
>>581318516Every month.
>>581305036i asked for it personallygm coqui*bos
>>581318516only if they are gay and furry
>>581319082she does things to me...
i like meruru's boobs
i like noa's smell
>>581318516I'm reading Tsukihime.
>manosaba gotyHFK
>>581318516I do
The face of excellency.
Shark bastard posting shark.This can only end in two ways.You either:1. Shut the fuck up.2. Shut the fuck up.
>>581318770Does chuuni even exist anymore? It feels like it died in the mid 2000s. Most edgy weebshit these days is like Chainsaw man or the Nah I'd Win guy. It's a completely different Zeitgeist. Even Fate in its current state feels really removed from it.
>does shounenshit even exist anymore?
>>581320268Mumbaimasa is the most chuuni shit ever
>>581305036Our next 3 releases will be previously untranslated VNs
>>581305361I know Japanese, BST was translated because I like the work
>>581320448orestuba/saihate/albatross???
>>581320782Yes, in that order
>>581320548yet you didn't know about chapter names on the map being untranslated, hmm...
>>581320905I did, I just ran out of tokens for the week before I could fix it
>>581320782very based. we will be feasting
>>581320312Chuuni: “The boundary between life and death is merely an illusion imposed upon the human soul. I alone have perceived the Crimson Principle beyond the Akashic boundary.”Shounen shit = 20 niggas watching a dude power up while giving a power of friendship speech The former is a shiny pokemon
>>581320992Not really they're pretty much the same thingMuramasa is Naruto
>>581320989We do it for the people
Can someone tell Quof to check out the LLLJ MTL and the Amairo Islenauts MTL and make a big reddit post about them? We're tired of the whole "it's translated" "it's not translated" etc
>>581320992holy cope
>>581321196just fix the tl yourself retardbro, it would take you like half a day
>>581321094>>581321240Same clanker. Not interested in your vinne and/ or translation warring btw. Put me on your do not (You) list.
>>581321423meds
VNs on the fediverse:#visualnovel #narrativegame(hashtags to follow on Mastodon)!visualnovels@ani.social!otomegames@ani.social!vndev@discuss.tchncs.de!renpy@discuss.tchncs.de!adventuregames@retrolemmy.com(lemmy groups)In Japanese:https://misskey.doujin.games
>>581318516Curious that you spammer keep asking this in the middle of ongoing conversation about recent translated and upcoming titles.>>581313572>>581313862>>581314256
>>581321331Nta but is it really that simple?
>>581323543No, he's a dumbass
>>581323543yes, you just need to have both scripts in 1 place
>>581323526>t-talk about my trannyge!!
>>581323669>umineko out of nowhere
When co-conspirators cross over each other.
>>581323669Chacha got her own ge?
What killed the LiL hype?
>>581325302shill funds dried out
>>581325302filters
>>581325302dead month. it gets 10 updates a year and next month isn't one of them
>>581325302The lack of Japanese voice acting and the crappy koikatsu art instead of comfy 2D art.
>>581325621GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEG
Boom, Tetris for Jonas.
Koikatsu can be kino, though.
>>581318516I lost interest in the medium after reading Fata morgana and Umineko 10 years ago but now am rereading the latter i remember enjoying dies Irae and subahime but my experience peaked with the 2 i mentioned earlier and i don't think anything will top them
>>581325832what is a normie like you doing here
>subahime
>>581326310he's lying he knows much more than he's admitting to by the fake-wring -hime / princess suffix
eew, why is she tanned? Who thought this was a good idea?
I thought I was hallucinating because the protagonist said nothing about it, so I used the undress filter and there they are: Tan lines. I hate these things.
>>581326152idk just hanging around? you guys have a lot of mentally ill posters mainly the umineko hater and the jeeted Marumasa guy/s>>581326310yeah my bad i forgot the title i meant subahibi
>reads trannyneko/tranny morgana>drops the mediumIDBLT
>>581326456>>581326612Are you gay?
>>581326612I like the tan lines.
i can't stop consooming kino......
Manosaba the excellent VN
>>581327479i'd rather read gay furryge
>>581327537fludbitch dblt
Would you eat panties, /vn/?
>>581326612You're complaining about tanlines, but you're ok with her having red rings for nipples? Ok
>>581327594>it's afraid
>>581328059>it's gay
>>581328137>it's trans
>>581328150>it's ChachaTake that back
>>581328220beato changed her legal name???
>>581328242she changed it from Beatrice Smith to Beatrice Taylorwhat's that got to do with you being gay thoughbeit?
>>581328412>didn't deny the trans allegationsnoooooticing
>>581328462>plays gay furryge>no *you're* trans!gooooooooooooooooogfloodbitch
>>581328567see >>581328462
he do be gay kek
concession accepted, cocklet
No. I don't like poop.
>>581329120he was in fact, gay
>>581328950gomenasai master flood. you wanted a cock, but i'm a woman...
Butt stuff~ @.@
>>581323669Mong.
>>581329426KEKAROOOOOOOOOOO
>>581319082>>581319234Noah is a hack!
>>581305143This is a very interesting list. Thanks. I see most titles here having 75+ rating on EGS (except for some extreme/short/doujin titles). Usodere, Satsukoi and Kikan Bakumatsu Ibun Last Cavalier look interesting. I will do them after I'm done with my current batch. Though I have to set aside some time to enjoy what I've made so far. I'm really enjoying re-reading Parfait (I've played the remake before) but having to watch out for 5 hours quota limit reset is distracting.
Is this an accurate translation?
>>581330981just Astra it
>>581330981
>>581326972>trannymasa melty
>>581330981How would I know if you don't post the jp line?
>>581333358hookGOD....
gays won
>wake up>check thread>floodtroon trooning out again
>>581333781But enough about manosissies
>>581333454FloodGOD won
she lives rent free
>>581329621UWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHH
>>581335513People seriously read this slop?
>>581319990>>581335548I love how she cries colorful tears. One of the best witch designs.
>>581335620kino*
>>581335620
>>581335720kek
>>581335762Tsuneyo is based
>>581336161such a dumb joke but it makes me chuckle
Doesn't your slop literally have it's own general, why the fuck are you here
>>581336332why so serious?
>it'sMumbai...
>>581316931Traps make me hard
>>581336332get the filter extension and move on because moderation doesn't exist on here
Bro, there are anons here who really have to spend all day fighting with someone... really weird shit
>get the botnethmm... nyo
>>581336479The extension is a lifesaver, especially now that I don't see manotroons anymore
>>581336581what extension? quick rundown?
>>581336332I blogposted the entire game here, though.
You don't see them but you still think about them, it hasn't worked much :(
LiL kamisama
>>581336654>it's seething
>>581336626https://github.com/otouchama/Ctrl-Skip
>>581336707will this steal my data or something
>>581336821yeah
>joined 4 days agofloodtroon...
flood will literally do anything but make the plotchart
>>581337006Hard to make a plotchart when he's read like 10 full length VNs total.
which one of you is the LostPomegranate? I wanna come up with the appropriate name
>>581334547*kageakiJEET
>>581337190Rent free
Troongranate
>>581337124That guy is on cord
NYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>581337124>which one of you is the LostPomegranate?I doubt he posts here. He's a NNcord user.
>>581336479>because moderation doesn't exist on hereThis may be my favorite cope from lil haters. Like they really imagine mods would ban EVNs from the visual novel general because of a rule in the OP, and the ONLY possible reason that VNs are allowed in the VN thread is mods not doing their job. Psychosis is such an interesting thing to observe.
>>581337321gooooooooooooooog, no wonder he hates mtl
>>581337376you can post NSFW CGs and not get banned
>>581337412This isn't true. I've gotten banned for posting a CG that only had visible cum (no nudity or anything).
>be me>ACK!
>>581337260>>581337321I wish he posted here he has read more vns than all the shitposters here combined
>>581337521Manotranny...
KINOmasa
>>581337412Plenty of people have gotten banned and their images deleted recently, but that aside my point is to laugh at the delusion that if moderation levels were high that mods would be like aw hell naw no EVNs in VN general instead of literally not giving a fuck and acknowledging like everyone else that EVNs are fine in the VN general.
codex limits are so fucking bad, i can't wait for free asi....
>>581337376Because it actually used to be like that. I don't know about EVNs, but JOP blogposts were banned on sight (from /vg/ probably, not from 4chan)
>>581337632That's not the fucking point the point is that slop literally has its own fucking general, so go back there.
>>581337846>so go back therenyo
We love LiL here
...did everyone who still reads vns really move to discord?
>>581337846no point in asking him to do so when again, this place has zero moderation and you can blogpost persona 5 and not get warned even
>>581337895What's the point of posting something every day in a place where you know people don't like it? Why are you acting like an Instagram woman? You're already over 30 bro.
>>581337846This but manotrannies
>>581337846
>it's malding
>>581337537Just looked at his posts and he's an annoying faggot. I hope he stays far away from here.
>>581337632>>581337376your argument falls apart very quick because you can post ANY videogame here and mods won't remove it, despite reports, because we are on /vg/and yet, the OP still says that this thread is for "Japanese VNs", so you spamtroons have no moral ground to stand on.what's more embarassing is that you lil sissies refuse to accept this, so you always cope by dumb shit like "nyooooooooo mods don't remove my screenshots", "nyooooooooo it's spiritually japanese", "nyoooooo read the board rules", etc... instead of being PROUD of the huge pile of shit you just took on /vn/tl;dr: i'm sorimachi and you are kageakis
>>581338056>people don't like it?Only shitposters who hate visual novels don't like it>You're already over 30 bro.I don't know who you think I am but I'm not over 30
>>581338125KYS shitposter
>>581338135stfu you gay ass
>>581337321he's in kagami too, allcorduser
>>581338250i'm not the on who unironically likes BLsloppa here
>>581338310>i'm not floodyou seem to be, though??
>>581336504
>>581338135>your argument falls apart very quick because you can post ANY videogame here and mods won't remove it, despite reports, because we are on /vg/You're right that my wording was poor. Mods wouldn't care because it's not a rule that all posts have to be on-topic to the thread, rather than because EVNs are fine in /vn/ even if they are. My point stands though, that even if /vn/ was heavily moderated with a crack team of 100 mods scanning each post that LiL still wouldn't get removed. The guy should be mad at 4chan rules and moderation policies he doesn't understand rather than keep coping that LiL is only posted because /vn/ is unmoderated.
>>581338371the highest BLsloppa i ever consumed is probably a 7/10, which MAMIYA unironically life-changed 'akibro
>>581338135>Because we are on /vg/Blatantly not true because this just happened >>581308087
>>581337968It seems like we've lost quite a few posters here recently, so yeah.
>it's not a rule that all posts have to be on-topic to the thread
>>581338578/bag/ has a personal modthe retard spamming blue archive images here got mass deleted, because an anon from here, linked them in their general and the mod saw it
>>581338578that just exposes how retarded 4chan moderation is.
>>581338578That kind of thing happens on 4chan sometimes, it's just for comedy purposes, he probably got like a 1 day ban or something>>581338683It's true. Check the rules. You may not like it but them's the breaks. The word "topic" is not even present in the global words section.
>>581338571>which MAMIYA unironically life-changed 'akibroI wouldn't go that far. I downgraded all my previous 10/10s to 9/10s after reading LiL anyway.
>>581333358That video has audio, anon...
>totsuraba is unironically the VNOTY 2026 so farwhat a dogshit medium
>>581338701I did that twice actually, and the mod mass deleted both spammers, but it was blue archive images, so it was kind of related? but I wouldn't recommend it.Only when it's a bot or a spammer, since the mod might ban you for bringing /vn/'s drama there, so unless you don't mind getting banned, or you have proxies, because the mod might range ban your location if you only reset your modem.
>>581339145I didn't see it get any awards at TGS
>>581339145No it's not
>>581339128Is LiL your only 10 now
>>581339145>totsurabawho???
>>581338837>there's not rule against shitting on the floor in your friend's house!
>>581337321Ok?
>>581339186retarded mong, manosaba came out in 2025>>581339246the VNOTY 2026>>581339214yes it is, on every single vn website, if you exclude pornshit>>581339297gm lostpomegranate
>>581338837>Western visual novels should be posted here, and Japanese visual novels on /jp/. Translated visual novels are allowed on either board.
>>581339239Yes, unless I could just cheat and give it an 11 since I consider it to be in its own higher ranking above everything else. That would be acceptable too.
>>581338125He can't possibly be more of an annoying faggot than trannager or kageakijeet.
>>581339258Not sure what you think you're proving here. Mods don't remove posts for no reason, they remove rule-breaking posts. You may not like it but they're not going to go rogue and start deleting any post they personally feel is offtopic to any given thread. >>581339409Yes it's very funny that the some of the same people whining about LiL also post untranslated VNs here despite that being explicitly against the rules. With the inane logic that untranslated VNs could theoretically be translated so they're on-topic.
>>581339490more of a based anon than*GODager*Kageakiaryan*
>>581339387>he doesn't knowManosaba and Totsuraba were both eligible for this year's edition. Only one of them won
>>581339490It's GODager for you, little sissy
>>581339539>You may not like it but they're not going to go rogue and start deleting any post they personally feel is offtopic to any given thread.read the OP dishonest-kun. you are in a friends house and you are shitting on the floor in case it wasn't clear
>>581339451Yeah it's high up your own ass for sure
>>581339601They should kiss.
>>581339620i don't care about your 2025sloppa, i'm talking about vns released in 2026
>>581339620moe awards is the only awards that matters
>>581339767The moe game awards are literally rigged, anon. Like half the big vn companies don't participate for that very reason.
>>581339639>read the OP dishonest-kun. you are in a friends house and you are shitting on the floor in case it wasn't clearSure. That's not the argument though. I'm purely arguing even if this thread was heavily moderated they wouldn't remove EVNs. There's no global rule for ontopic and mods don't care if every post in a thread is following OP rules. You can be mad at the shitposters and mad at the rules, but you can't say that the posting is happening only due to a lack of moderation.
>>581339761Well the point is Totsuraba already lost. It will not be in next year's edition.
>>581339761just admit that you were wrong random kun
LiL wonned~~~shitposterMONGs lost
>>581339925it lost the TGA or whatever, i'm talking about VNOTY 2026>>581339940???
>>581339862They don't participate because they lost before
>>581339862maldinghttps://moe-gameaward.com/prize/2025/
>>581339862How so?
Hundred KINO?VNOTY 2025
>>581340036>Amakano 3 won the most awardsNo wonder they call it VNOTYkano 3.
I wonder how it feels to suck a cock
>>581340137Why do you guys hate hundred line
>>581339994>VNOTY 2026That's gonna be Mahoumura if they release it this year.