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GUILDS AT WAR edition

>What is WoW: Forever?
Blizzard's new version of World of Warcraft, based on vanilla WoW. Set in the same Azeroth but expanded upon with new zones, dungeons, raids, quests and much more.

>New Race: Skyborne
Skyborne are available for Horde and Alliance but are not the same Skyborne. There was a cultural shift prior and now different Skyborne are aligned with the different factions. Horde Skyborne get Shaman, Alliance get Mages

>Many new race/class combos including Undead Paladin and Dwarf Shaman

>More than 1k quests added making a 25% increase in quest content alone

>Talent Calculator
https://forevertalents.up.railway.app

>When is it being released?
Release date November 4th

>Beta Guilds
To join, type /who g-"Guild Name" to see who's online, whisper anyone for an invite, or ask in thread.
<wowfg> - PvP, Horde, NA/EU
<Make Nagas Slaves Again> - PvP, Alliance, NA/EU
<Little Space> - PvP, Alliance, NA, https://discord.gg/ZQ2uWkkqbc

>>581406515
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big rumor that era won
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F O R E V E R
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I think the SD Gnomes may look better than the HD Gnomes.
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>started at 2pm,
>got kicked out at 4pm, so watched some streamers
>it's now almost 7pm
the door to my old addiction is once again open
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QRD on the past 24 hours?

No more than 5 lines of green text
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>>581421809
Retoilet lost
nillers lost
pserfs lost
chink botters lost
4EVER WON
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>>581422065
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>>581421809
forever won
blizzard won
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so it's a worse version of turtle wow?
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>>581422278
Home
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Was there cause to cast me off?
Act as though it never happened and that we were nothing
In sooth I do not need thy love
But thou makest me a stranger and that feels so rough
Hadst thou need to stoop so low?
To send a wagon for thy minstrel and refuse my letters
I need no longer write them though
Now thou art somebody whom I used to know
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>>581423231
RIP /wowcg/
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>>581423231
Now and then, I think of all the times you fucked me over
But had me believing it was always something that can be patched
But I don't wanna live that way
Buying every expansion you send my way
You said that you can fix the lore
And I wouldn't catch you hung up on somebody that I used to know
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Woah woah woah, hang on.
Can undead paladins use cannibalize while divine shield is up?
Because that'd be kind of big.
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>>581417124
So how many of you are having regrets about paying 59.99 to beta test a 2004 game with ray tracing?
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Would you accept Refugees if they looked like this?
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>>581421809
>retoilets hyping this up as the next big thing
>it's mostly chuds fucking around
>it's retoilet
>there's no way this will last longer than SoD did
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I'm having fun.
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>horde pvp still locked
doa
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wow this general used to be fast and now it's dead
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I'm legitimately stuck running around on a level 1 because I don't know if I should make a human hunter or a night elf hunter
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So if you roll on pvp server you can only roll one faction even though it's a mega server now? That means you have to play that faction Forever and never mess around with the other faction because... of reasons.
Certainly they will change this?
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what's the class distribution looking like rn
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>>581417124
Yeah, I’m thinking WoW is fucking BACK baby!
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>>581424761
$30 for the sex elves, $15 for a month sub. That said no I don’t regret it because I’m not poor and $60 is no big deal.
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>>581426703
People are playing the game and having fun, sweaty :)
Personally I’m taking a shit rn and phonefagging.
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>>581427020
It’s beta so you can’t be worried about that. Of course everyone is testing undead paladin.
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i want to play paladin so bad because holy has been my main forever and new shockadin looks kino but i refuse to be associated with the million retniggers running around giving my class a bad name ffs
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>blessing of might
>60 minutes
>battleshout
>3 minutes
sorry but what the fuck?
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>>581424838
no, she will grow up to rape
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>>581427718
Do they stack?
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why are we pretending like this is not retail?
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will surviva hunters just be melee hunters now?
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>>581428049
Anyone who has actually played retail in the past 10 years is never gonna call it retail.
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ah, new great name spotted: daddy xoxo
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Why does the game run like utter shit? It shits the bed when you walk into a city.
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So how many people will actually make their blue elves...blue?
Seems like everybody will just make them white and look like high elves and blood elves
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>>581421809
>low stakes
>hop in and play type game confirmed by devs
>poopsockers mad because they tie their entire self-worth to imaginary numbers
>Blizzards attempt at getting retail and classic players into one game-mode
>This isn't classic + or retail - it's quite literally Blizzard next MMO project utilizing the warcraft universe.
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I want the Dark Portal to open and we find out that it's connected to the alt universe Draenor where the Light took over. We don't go through, they storm out and secure the area. It's a defensive story, not an offensive one. It ends with the Dark Portal demolished, trapping the draenai, lightbound orcs, and their enslaved ogres on Azeroth. Realizing they're fucked they fall to infighting. Draenai join Alliance, and Horde gets mag'har customization for their orcs and the Ogres.
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>>581428049
I prefer the retail UI and I do hope they add the token in the future because it curbs gold buying a great deal as evidenced by retail where it still happens but the vast majority of players are fine with doing it through the token, gdkp niggers deserve to die a slow and painful death
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i dont get it, why doesnt everyone who wants Forever to just be the exact same thing as Classic, just go play Classic instead?
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We're so fucking back!
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>>581428247
I am a racist blue elf
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>>581428247
Most won't be blue. You see a lot of blue running around on beta because people quickly made their guy and have no connection to them.
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>>581422824
It's more like a more polished version of Epoch. Modern engine, more QOL, most "new" content ported over from expansions, Undead Pally, same profs as vanilla but buffed etc
Turtle was really like if Blizzard just kept updating Vanilla in 2007 instead of TBC. 1.12 engine jank and all. No cute elves on Horde either.
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I'll be honest, I hope there's more at 60 because these classes still suck ass to play. I was really expecting WOTLK gameplay.
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Can i get a qrd how people have felt about the following so far. Sub rogue, Ele shaman and Balance Druid.
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Do you think they went realmless so when everyone stops playing it a month after its release it'll still feel somewhat populated for the people still hanging on?
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>>581421809
>Streamers waxed poetically about exploration and magical adventures meeting strangers and taking it slow
>They instantly rush ASAP to level cap for PVP and spam dungeons
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>>581428405
Level cap is 20. There's nothing to feel about a class.
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>>581428247
Im debating on it, I like my regular skinned Skelf so far but I might try out a bluer skin and see how it feels
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>>581428247
I've been watching a wide variety of streamers today and unsurprisingly literally every foid streamer picked elves but somewhat surprisingly most of them actually did go for the blue.
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guh
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>>581428407
They never had a good solution to dead realms, so we get to eat shit because they're too lazy to figure it out.
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>>581427581
>>581428262
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>>581421809
>Retail Minus
>Vanilla without its teeth
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>>581421809
It's decent and not retail however it's also not classic it feels far more like wrath era with tbc tuning, I think it has the potential to have staying power but that will entirely depend on how well blizzard can curb player power and not have current raids being one shot 2-3 patches down the line, even games like gw2 that claim to have horizontal progression still have power spikes each expansion I don't really see how they'll avoid it here either
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>>581428516
gross
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So, looks like a dud.
I hope you retail blue elfs enjoy it.
No one else will, even the fucking streamers look about ready to blow their brains out.
Get scammed.
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>>581421809
everyone seems to be slowly realizing its not plus but retail minus, everyone I know has pulled out already. Seems like a massive flop.
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>>581428390
We are capped at lvl 20. The beta is not a good way to test specs. Most in vanilla don't even begin to make sense until 40.
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>>581428516
I so badly want them to finally save her butchered character from retail.
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>>581428548
nobody cares it's not a minmax game go to reddit if you want to talk about how to optimize the fun out of a game that most people could beat blindfolded and keyboard rolling
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>>581428387
Also like Epoch it's pretty much TBC classes but level 60 cap.
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>>581427530
>im not going to play what I want because of some “reputation”
You are weak and gay.
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no one has explained to me yet why "retail UI" is a bad thing
if your concern is strictly aesthetic then just use addons
in terms of functionality the retail UI seems to be simply better
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does hovering over red "?" Game Menu show you at 30fps as well?

I feel like things are a bit choppy despite having it set to 120fps cap.... I don't think I'm at 30fps despite what this may say
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>>581428670
It's just ugly and kinda stupid that we need to use an addon to get the original UI.
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>>581428596
Sodapoppin looks fucking depressed. I think he realized this ain't it. Payo will quit in a week and remain a vanilla purist too.
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>>581428609
Post a picture of your character.
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>>581428643
I care, I think it's a dumb placement for such a huge talent that directly affects a different spec to such a degree. It should be at least two rows higher.
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>>581428670
Retail ruined the game.
Look at the state of this dogshit.
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Reminder to not reply to shitposters who act like they are playing the beta but won't post screenshots of them in the beta
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>>581428614
Everything datamined so far leads me to believe that warriors are going to top meters again... They're the only ones with built in cleave, and ST... There's also the fact that they're balancing dungeons around 4 targets since they capped all tank abilities at 4 targets...
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Only 1 pvp realm is kind of a deal breaker honestly, if I want to try out the other faction somewhere down the line there's nowhere to do that at all they really just expect you to choose a faction now and still be okay with it years down the line
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>>581428516
Honestly, this might be the best version of Sylvanas.
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>>581428770
what does the quality of retail's gameplay have to do with UI?
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>>581428791
Tummy showing sylvanas was the best looks wise it's just that that's also when they started to assassinate her character
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WHY IS MY FPS SO LOW
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>>581428791
3 is the best by a mile are you nuts?
she just needs to be paler and less blue.
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>>581428049
I'm glad I was able to refund the pre order pack, got caught up in the fomo but after 5 minutes in the game I realized how toilettified it was.
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If we're back, does that mean we're going to start getting PVP videos to music from celldweller and muse again?
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What killed the hype?
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My rogue
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>>581428875
relog your character (not completely log out)
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>>581428890
yes
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>>581428916
Looks like a blizzard employee
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Its got to the point where the doomjeets are replying to their own posts
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>>581428737
>Sodapoppin looks fucking depressed.
Because it's genuinely horrible.
It's the worst of both worlds.
It's instantly noticeable
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>>581428018
I like where this is going but I'd change few things
>It ends with the Dark Portal demolished, trapping the draenai, lightbound orcs, and their enslaved ogre on Azeroth.
Yes
>Realizing they're fucked
Yes
>they fall to infucking. Draenai fuck the orcs, and mag'har fuck draenei and the Ogres fuck both and the Alliance joins in and starts fucking and then the Horde and they all fuck together. And then Medivh being an old crazy Karazhan party cuck flies in to see what happened of his portal joins and starts watching them at peace doing each other like he wanted in W3 and start gooning and rubbing one out in a long cutscene. Everyone gets three new neutral slutty races.
yes
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>>581428882
post a picture of your character
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>>581428882
Post a picture of your character.
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>>581428049
From what I've seen the only people playing it are wrath babies and actual toileteers
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>>581428890
yea except tiktok edits with fat mike and lil' pump instead
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can we admit it's retail minus now?
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>>581428898
People realized its just Retail skinwalking as Vanilla
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>>581428715
you can use fraps to see your true frames.
It's not accuarate, but it's not high either, something's eating the frames and sometimes logging out and in fixes it
It is very janky as hell.
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>>581428973
He is defending it to death; he only says "I dont care" when someone points out some shit. It's funny as hell looking at those fags depressed.
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>>581428848
>>581428881
Nah, the wrath model has a face that looks like "how to draw anime" garbage, literal hot topic crap.
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This doesn't feel like classic.
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I heard a rumor that you can find Jimothy in Duskwood
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>>581428841
Leftist discourse.
I didn't even mention gameplay.
Try again.
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>>581428928
I did
And I deleted cache
and I tried lowering settings (doesnt help)
and I restarted my computer
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>>581429098
post a picture of your character.
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>>581429103
...you think that retail was ruined by its UI?
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>>581428898
I switched to Dawn Walker for a break and I kept thinking "I could be playing WoW right now, I'm so close to lvl15".
I'm usually immune to such things, but pretty sure this means WoW: Forever will be trending.
It's scratching that "I'm wasting time" itch
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>>581428049
The fact that its launching with a full cash shop and not only one but TWO shop mounts made it very obviously a joke from the get go. But of course twich kids will still jump on it as they did with SoD.
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Why are you all engaging with retards who can't afford to play the beta instead of playing the game and forming your own opinions?
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>>581429105
Game has a memory leak.
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Why are retailers and blizzard seethin’ no one likes their frames and ui?
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>>581429087
They probably have a onlyfangs layer or something set up.
Even the twitch numbers sucked, it's fucking done and he likely knows it
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>>581429241
Was it as full as this cash shop?
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now that wow forever has disappointed literally everyone, what are people going to play now? aion 2? archeage chronicles?
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new ambient sounds in dun morogh
>howling wolves
>chirping squirls
cinema
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I hope asmon will accept my humble nelf hunter Kirk Neckshot in his guild...
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>>581429207
Gotta love how everyone calling it Retail have zero clue what is actually wrong with Retail that got it killed in the first place.
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lots of material spawns and also starting mobs drop cloth
kinda niec
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>>581417124
just want to point out to any unsuspecting anons that might think joining a /vg/ wow guild could be a good idea, don't don't ever joing a guild based off of this general, these people are subhuman retards not fit for life, they are the lowest form of life on this website and that's saying something, they are either retarded browns or mentally ill trannies, there's no in between, you have been warned
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>>581428591
My sky elf(Horde) standing up to an orc for being abrasive.
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>>581429241
>>581429320
Didn't know blizzard ran private servers, can't believe they would scam their customers.
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>>581429298
>Even the twitch numbers sucked
>asmon 110k
>soda >50k
>xaryu 60k

not even trying to sound believable at this point huh
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>>581429284
How do I fix that
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>>581429374
asmongold is not fond of gang violence so he might
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I want to have fun with this but the dungeon exp nerf has honestly ruined it for me, it's almost guaranteed they'll be dead since there's no incentive to run them beyond the first time which means if you want to actually experience them while leveling (easily my favorite part of the game) there is no reason to play anything at all but a tank and I absolutely do not want to slog through leveling another warrior or paladin
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this is just retail minus. glad i got it for free with my big mac (that i enjoyed eating more than playing this)
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>>581428049
yikes... this really makes me appreciate era and hardcore. Its free from all that cancer
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>>581429472
Okay
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>>581429453
You wait until blizzard fixes it, retail has had one for two expansions in a row now that they are aware of and respond to posts on the forums about so don't hold your breath
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>>581429378
Why are you replying to your own post.
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>>581429484
post a picture of your character
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It’s kinda dogshit huh? At least zephras isle is a massive disappointment and eyesore. I dunno why the fuck they forced all these retail UI stuff in the game that does nothing but bring down performance and make everything look jarring between HD effects and 2005 textures
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>>581429472
Your druid that can be any role?
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>>581429453
try turning it off and on again
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>>581429472
>jajaja no run dungeon more than once
>jajaja my turd world country i can't powerlevel people no more in dungeons
>jajaajaj blizzards its over how am I going to feed my shitskin family now
Based blizzard keeping turd worlders out of Forever. We truly are home.
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>>581429256
'cuz I wanna know if I should wait till November 4th, and if the beta is good or not.
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>>581429378
>Retail that got it killed
Retail is still their main money maker, classic is nearly dead
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>>581429579
They don't like Classic.
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They didn't make enough class changes. We're spoiled by SOD because we were already playing WOTLK-tier specs by level 25.
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welp i got to lvl 10, off to bed anons. cya tommorow. remember, ignore and do not reply to the non-white doomer faggots.
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Total streamer devastation... why do they all look like they're about to kill themselves?
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>you now need a 5090 and 64 GB ddr5 to play classic wow
Thank you Blizzard
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>>581428319
we would if they would give us a fresh restart, you fucking nigger
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>>581429440
And what was classics numbers?
World of Warcraft Classic shattered Twitch records during its 2019 launch, pulling in over 1.1 million concurrent viewers
Thanks google.
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>>581429472
Unironically one of the best changes they made
The worst part about Classic was people going on and on about "dude the JOURNEY bro" and then sitting afk in SM/Mara/etc while a chink mage spam clears the trash for hours on end
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>>581429579
>>581429484
>>581429343
>>581429651
can you guys show me your characters?
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>>581429472
>implying i won't run each 2-3 times at the appropriate level just for gear
if anything the dungeons not overleveling me for the world is a good thing
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>>581429651
I guess you realized you can't make up lies about what they said anymore, so now you just say they "look" wrong lmao.
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>>581429601
>thinks that doing a dungeon is powerleveling
You're jeet ass has never even played this game the world record leveling time are all 100% questing, the leveling guides are all 100% questing, dungeons have never been efficient and never will be and yet retarded browns like yourself who lack critical thinking skills have been memed in to thinking their faster because people charge for them
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>>581429618
Genuinely go watch a stream at least. The majority of the people posting here are obviously miserable and want to spit vitriol over everything. The only thing they can say is 'muh retail'.
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Sorry anons I promised to post a beta code from maccas but can only claim one code per account.
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>>581429472
>no more spell cleave sweat spammers
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>>581429664
SAAAAAAR WHY CANT I USE MY GTX 950!?!!? BLOODY BENCHOD BLIZZARD DEMANDS TOO MUCH!
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>>581429651
They realize spending all day in queue just to level to 10 on a character that gets deleted in 3 weeks was not a good use of their time.
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Do you think Blizzard really wants to add the original cut content this time around? Does it mean that Chris Metzen always wanted to make a neutral race of sky elves ever since warcraft 3? Why didn't we see them in warcraft 3 then, even now with reforged and new campaigns? Does it mean they will be the fifth playable race in another warcraft 3 update? Is this why there are elven statues in the Undercity sewers? It just doesn't add up, if they were always originally intended to be then why didn't we see them mentioned in the other expansions? Do you think Chris Metzen is a genius?
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>>581429378
Retail still has m+ which alone will sustain it for years.
Only once they implement m+ to Forever retail will die.
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>>581429694
>chinks do something bad that blizzard could easily fix
>instead they ruin dungeons for everyone
>>581429717
Why would you run them 2-3 times when quests now give better rewards?
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>>581429740
Cry more faggot
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>>581428273
Kinda defeats the point, TBC already exists.
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why would someone play PvP if you can't mine or do herbalism or skinning
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>>581429706
>BUY IT
They obviously watched it though
It was on twitch, are you aware of this?
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>>581428516
welp, it's over, they really can't help themselves can they
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>>581429693
This isn't a launch, it's a beta.
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>>581429740
Awww poor shit skincan't sell boosts in dungeons anymore and then sell his gold online.. Boohooo hope your family starves turd worlder.
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>>581429740
>he doesn't remember people camping in dungeons 24/7 on 2019 launch
Kek.
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Skitskins will pivot to selling summons for gold.
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>>581429812
because some dungeons drop tons of different gear or smaller set bonuses?
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>>581429818
When you're on your third alt slogging through the riverglades for the 1000th time helping the tranny farmers because there's not a single other way to level in the game you'll be right back here whining and pissing yourself over how the game is dying
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>>581429802
They said that they would be doing things that didn't happen in the mainline World of Warcraft.
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>>581429664
>64gb ddr5
>but 4070 ti S
i-i'm not gonna make it
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>>581429840
Most people want to play the actual game instead of running around picking flowers like a chinese bot.
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wow forever is kind of a dumb name considering this shit is getting shut down eventually
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>>581429802
>Does it mean that Chris Metzen always wanted to make a neutral race of sky elves ever since warcraft 3?
Yeah he made a sketch of the island in 2003.
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>>581429946
Keep crying lol
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Did magi really need more fluff in the case of their new scroll deciphering feature? They already have teleports, portals, conjuring food and water, and are already the strongest class at gold farming.
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>>581429923
And why do you need that bonus when you'll outlevel it in 2-3 quests that give you brand new gear that's on par with dungeons?
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Having a blast

Got invited to Special Olympus and gave Asmongold all my gold and he said my name on steam KEKW
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Hyjal is so unfinished right now, i wonder if it will be delayed and locked off at launch.
I wonder if they started working on Hyjal in the last few months because Forever didn't really have enough new content or something.
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>>581429978
He made the sketch with the pitched sex elves to him for forever.
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>>581430012
faggot
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>>581429978
This is from earlier this year.
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we do be camping and we do be playing
<wowfg> on pvp horde, no discord
/whisper Arthur Schoppenboer
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>>581429706
>its not retail!
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>>581430050
never ever furfaggot LMFAO
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>>581430006
Yeah since nobody wants to play them due to aoe farming being dead.
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>Horde racials aren't bonker OP like they were in Vanilla
>jajaja Forever is doomed!

The browncels just keep self reporting...
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>>581429859
Cope.
The first look ever, the most exciting time, like when classic broke that record.
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>>581430064
>he doesn't have a response
lmao enjoy collecting your boar asses for farmer troony
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>>581430102
Comfy
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>>581430151
that was the classic launch, not the beta. this is a beta.

thanks for playing.
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>>581429967
how do you expect to make enough money to get your bis without professions
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So what's the strat you guys are using for the HD / SD Model settings?

Personally, I think I'm just going to switch to SD if I'm playing a race which looks great in SD. And HD if I'm playing a race that looks great in HD.

For example, Gnomes look way better in SD than in HD.

Tauren look way better in HD than in SD.
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SARRR I CANNOT REDEEM THE DUNGEON BOOSTS SARRR
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>RMT buyers are easily detectable and will never be banned
>GDKP is easily detectable and will never be banned
>wow token will be added to counter RMT
>the official cash shop will steadily grow until it costs $500 to buy the feature complete game
are you guys ready for business as usual in World of Swipecraft: Goymaxx Edition?
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>>581430102
gay
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Night elf isn't as busted as I thought, shadowmeld doesn't let you exit.combat so not a vanish. Sky elf racials are weak as shit though holy shit, under tuned af
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>>581430249
Post your character
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>>581430151
classic beta was 200k viewers, launch was 1.1m
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>>581430249
(You)
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>>581430102
gay and comfy
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>>581429753
I'm watching streamers too. I just want multiple differing opinions to form my own. It's the closest I'll get to a good answer without just buying it now.
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can you visit the sky elf zone without buying the new race?
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>>581430108
>level 13 staff
>has stats slightly lower than a level 60 blue
>https://www.wowhead.com/classic/item=20654/amethyst-war-staff
ladies and gentlemen, it's over
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>>581429472
I was initially worried dungeon queues might be more dead but nah. Most normal people only do dungeons once and maybe 1 or 2 more times for loot. Plus it's Realmless. You should (hopefully) always have people to play with untill Forever dies a couple months after release.
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>>581430292
We told you.

We told you Gnome was the only worthwhile Racial in the game and you didn't listen. 60% of Alliance will be Gnome, mark my words.
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the war is back in world of warcraft boys
i like this new sky elf opening zone
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>>581430249
>oh no they're charging $30 for a blue troon race that I won't play what ever will I do??????
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>>581430221
Cope.
Thanks for trying, retail killed it.
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>>581430235
I make all my chars look good in SD and HD, takes a bit more effort since sometimes you only look nice in one. I prefer SD but these new elves are only in HD so it feels awkward with so many of em running around
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>>581429637
DING DING DING
This is it, they hate everything classic represents and want to show everyone they know best, they're hubris is going to drive everyone back to private servers
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Why won't blizzard do the obvious thing to counter bots, gold sellers and GDKP: Disable all forms of trading and auction houses.
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>>581430412
Fuck this retail power fantasy slop
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>addon settings not saving
:( muh moveany and dynamiccam...
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time to make wowcg again
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>>581430456
Runescape tried this and it nearly killed the game.
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>>581430424
Not making an elf. Give me a QRD, please.
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>>581430420
Gnome can't be all classes, but the inclusion of priest with OP racials feels busted
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>look at twitch
>nobody engaging with the controller feature
what are /our/ thoughts on it? Have you tried it?
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I bought the collectors edition literally the moment it was announced on stage and I'm not having fun tbqh
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>>581430412
They specifically did this to make it so getting weapons as casters was impactful like it is for melee users.
The spells are probably tuned thereafter.
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I'm kinda regretting paying for this beta
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>It done worse than classic we win
Win what?
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>>581430368
No.
It's like the panda/DH starting area where you can't return once you finish it.
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>>581430540
good thing this isn't runescape
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>>581430564
lolno
Who in their right mind would actually want to gimp themselves with it?
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>>581430580
Spell amp is also significantly less impactful at low levels, isn't it?
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>>581430420
Great news for midgetfuckers
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>>581430594
Show character in game
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>>581430108
>turtle wow is tranny shit with OP early game weapons that make it ez
>based and redpilled blizzard will balance Classic+ properly
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My FPS is fucking garbo, what should I turn off?
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>>581430564
it's good and i like it
still need to take some time to tinker with it
now we just need controller support for warcraft 3
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>>581417124
>2 names like XIV
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>>581430567
>>581430594
Another waitchad W
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>>581430567
seems to me you have fun being retarded.
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yeh i think ill just try the new dungeons and log out, no need to poop sock any of this profession slop
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>>581429150
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>the new water splash sound

what in the FUCK
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>>581430594
Same. I don't think this is going to be a long term success unless Blizzard shifts focus to appealing to one crowd more. The sense of danger from classic is simply non-existant, game is piss easy overall. Faster paced than actual classic, but way too slow for retail. They're trying to please both sides here and in doing so they're going to please far less than if they just committed.
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>>581430707
Guild Wars 1 did it first
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>>581430545
Idk I skipped all the cringe millennial writing
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>>581430594
You regret paying for the thing they gave away at mcdonalds for....that included food?
But WHY?
It's so fucking good everyone is currently playing it, like esfand.
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>>581430705
so many cute hot sexelf guys in one place
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If you want me to read your doomposts you have to minimize the amount of buzzwords in it
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>>581430707
>ff14 invented surnames
mindbroken. they've been a thing since everquest
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Is anyone else reading the new quest text? It sounds like reddit posts...
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>>581430108
>GOLEMHEART
They're laughing right in your faces and you're still giving them money
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>>581430564
Yeah tried it the moment I got in and it feels like ass mmos just weren't meant to be played on controller, even if you were somehow able to get your buttons in to a good order so that you're not constantly having to hit the shoulder buttons then the d-pad then some weird combo just to fight off a level 10 mob you still have to deal with how shit the targeting is and how much of a pain actually selecting the npc directly in front of you is not to mention shit like inventory management, I'm sure there will be some mega autist who makes it work for them but I can't see seriously playing like this beyond level 20 or so
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Wendingo in the grizzled den are worth a massive 25c per kill. Thats actually like lvl 15 tier loot at lvl 6. That’s good enough to justify skipping Elwynn and grinding for an hour. Xuge
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>>581430545
feels just like an OG classic starter zone
having played the others 500 times, i feel like i'm 14 again
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>>581430707
other mmos did it way before ffxiv and it's criminal wow went as long as it has without it
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If they release Forever on consoles before retail it will truly be the new main wow game.
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>>581430764
This. The leveling feels like retail. Race rolling every mob. I don't even need water.
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>>581430773
>But I am playing the cringe millennial elf
Huh
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>>581430765
it didnt, thoughever!
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>>581430806
Will Forever get a new mega dungeon? I want mega dungeons.
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>>581430108
>GOYLEM HEART
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>>581430764
>The sense of danger from classic is simply non-existant
I'm convinced you just watched a streamer play five levels in the tutorial area. Enemy damage is maybe a little bit undertuned but pulling two mobs at once is dangerous as early as level 7
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>>581430810
Can you post an example?
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>>581430832
I don't suppose the game automatically turns your character to face the enemy when you move while locked on like all the games made for controller actually do, be it Dark Souls or FFXIV?
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>>581430953
Show your character with your name right now you fucking liar.
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>>581430917
I wasn't old enough for when EQ was popular so just going off what I know.
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I cant believe Guild Wars 3 mogged FFXIV and Wow Forever.....
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>>581430953
Simply not true.
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I'm so fucking bored leveling already, I need to get dicked down by a futa in XIV
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>>581430943
best youre getting is brd heroic and brd mythic
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>>581430943
Would be stupid not to imo
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>>581430764
Is it really a surprise though? If they made the game exclusively for classic players it would be dead in a month every iteration of classic currently running combined still barely hits 100k active players if you go by most census sites (not perfect but it's the best we have and they all report similar numbers) and those 100k aren't all going to jump on forever they're already bickering over what is and isn't classic and retail players have too much sunk cost in to retail to ever move over for more than a few months between patches

the entire concept of this shit was doomed from the start
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>>581430580
Yeah they said that, but tons of armor also now has inflated wotlk-esque stats with hsp and sp on them so its not just the weapons.
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>>581430456
They just need to hire some autist who loves WoW, and pay him minimum wage but in salary so $32k/y and give him a PC that can only be used for GMing. He just sits at home all day playing and when he sees something fucky he goes and logs onto his GM account and bans bots. It's just that simple.
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>>581430953
I've been playing it since 1pm PST non-stop, anon. Made and deleted a few different characters already. Paladin is RIDICULOUSLY overtuned but casters in general feel like they almost never have to drink water now.
This narrative of "uhmmm its the same it's fine actually" needs to fuck off and die. Genuinely might be autistic enough to record two videos of same gear + same mob fights side by side and show the difference.
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what is the point of the sovl toggle graphics if the blue fuckes don't have it?
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>>581430773
>cringe millennial writing
aka "lore accurate elf dialogue"
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>>581430953
I've literally seen Esfand almost die to a single mob and have to bubble heal.
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>>581430881
They made so many videos of different wow controllers, like one guy would even play wow with a drum set he hooked it up so that he could do his dps rotation by playing drums. Or moving with a treadmill, they did seriously everything and it was never good enough.
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>>581431156
I saw a retarded monkey do something retarded
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So what are the chances other specs are viable/fun/won't get me laughed out of groups? I want to be a cool poison knife man, but rogues are usually combat as far as I know (which could be wrong, I haven't played in years.)
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>>581431020
Sure.

>>581431070
I've so far died twice because I tried to greedily tag a quest mob when there were other mobs around and got raped.
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seems kinda big
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>>581431070
You have not played the game.
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>>581429065
two more weeks
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I'm so fucking bored leveling already, I need to get dicked down by a wolf
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>>581431201
>sex elf
>shaman
based
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i got killed by two hippogryphs in the skelf starter zone at level 7
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>>581431139
Mana regen is definitely overtuned at low levels, not gonna dispute that. I'm curious how it will be at higher levels.
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Is shaman still auto attack 80% of the time in the early levels. Or did they give you a little more buttons to press.
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>>581429802
Maybe? On one hand, we got the Furbolg raid, Old Ironforge dungeon, and original Hyjal, but on the other we don't have that big shell thing, those other untextured areas, and the Emerald Dream.
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>>581431283
better pay for it, like you paid blizzard to beta test their alpha
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>>581431107
I feel like Classic but with better visuals and slightly smoother gameplay (as in, feels less clunky/dated. "Difficulty" remains intact. Could even throw filler buttons into each class to make it feel more engaging) would do great. That, or retail with less autistic shit flooded everywhere, a new blank slate to write from since retail writing is hilariously dogshit, and slightly less overwhelming gameplay. Either of those would be massively successful I think, not Classic but with the elements classic retards enjoy being gone and Retail but with the retail zoomerslop toned down. Nobody wins here.
>>581431313
I've heard it gets a little bit better at higher levels, but I think sabotaging the early leveling experience alone is hugely lame for newer players. We'll see though, currently only lvl 11 so maybe towards 20ish it gets better.
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>>581431201
>the sense of danger is gone
>I died twice
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Good morning.
How is the beta? Fun?
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>>581431335
You get stormstrike pretty early, 25 I think. But there were always buttons to push even before that.
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>>581431460
Yep
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>>581431283
Wow classic is primarily a speedrunning game designed to repeatedly level to 60. Newer versions of wow are totally different, but the leveling mechanic was kept because it’s still trying to be an mmo. Forever isn’t an mmo, it’s a 3D hack and slash with light RPG elements. The leveling experience will be boring, because it’s pointless, and is poorly designed.
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>>581431372
i dont think dire wolves have a use for money
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im new to being a boy
what class should I play :3
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>>581430881
I don't see how you could do retail on console/controller at all with how retardedly complex the gameplay is.
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>>581431439
Well, I probably would have died a lot more if I'd never played WoW before, or if I was retarded.
But neither of those things is true, so I generally play pretty safely.
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>>581431335
You literally cannot go OOM so you spam max rank Earth Shocks. Once you get Fire Nova you can AoE down 15 mobs at the same time without any issue.
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>>581431517
hunter
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>>581421809
>massive queues, launch will be even worse
>gameplay is the same as vanilla
>lots of changes to professions
>old models look jank, new models look good with old animations
>kino lighting
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>>581431460
pretty lit senpai ngl
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>>581431139
Don't feed that faggot. Anyone with a little money can login right now, make a druid nelf, and slam wrath on every mob like retail. It's ridiculous.
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Do I have enough time to beat Warcraft 3 on Hard as a complete RTS noob before this releases in November?
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>>581431107
Honestly I don't even blame them.
Look at how the retailtards are defending them.
These are their customers, I'm not.
I genuinely got fucking fleeced, they called it classic plus told us they'd have certain features and be a certain thing and it's just not.
Congratulations on the cash grab I guess.
I'll just take the L and move on, all I can do is let everyone I know it was bad and show them vids I guess.
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How it's gonna feel to login to Worlo Forlo in November
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>>581431520
I'm pretty sure they just copied the controller UX from XIV so If it fits in about 24 hotbar slots it should be completely playable on controller.
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>>581431597
no way. wc3 on hard is too hard
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>>581431560
i deplore animal slavery
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so it costs like 70 dollars to play a server reset with less content and ray tracing turned on? Am I missing something? Is this some sort of nostalgia trap
t. never played WoW
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>>581431597
Depends on if you read guides or not
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>>581428916
So this is the source of my hype
I am not pleased

They were right
Classic players are getting thrown under the bus from here on out
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>>581431439
I died thrice
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what's the highest level anyone's at so far? anyone hit 14 or 15?
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so the thirdies are saying it's retail because.... mana/energy don't regen on ticks and the unit frames are cleaner?
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>>581431460
Retail slop sadly
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>>581431684
druid you are the animal
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>>581431201
I don't get it use stoneclaw or earthbind totem and you literally can't die?
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how well does doomposting pay?
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>>581431703
I already cheated on Chapter 4 of the human campaign and did the divine shield skip.
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>>581429472
I know this is bait, but there are literally going to be a million paladins. Finding a tank or healer won't be hard.
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>>581431612
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>>581431698
pretty much. unless you want warcraft 3, it's not a good deal
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>>581431684
its not slavery, its husbandry, think of your boar as your wife
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>>581431541
Welcome to retail
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>>581431736
It’s designed by the same people. Theyre talentless jobbers looking to earn a quick dollar off of the trailblazers like turtle.
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>>581430594
>blizzard keeps giving people the option to buy into beta
>players are somehow shocked when it's an actual beta test and not some sort of paid early access
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>>581431736
ive been asking for years what retail even means yet no one can define it
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1-2 Human Lock
3-4 Dwarf Paladin
5-6 Nelf Druid
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>>581428516
I hope we can kill her in forever. Even back then, worst horde character.
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>>581430418
Dude, it's not gonna die months after release. It's literally called Forever. This is the vehicle for all our dreams to come true. There will be at least 3 years of content.
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>>581431736
they haven't even played the game anon you're giving them too much credit. they are shitposting because they don't want their jank ass private servers to die and/or they are terrified of the possibility of their livelihood being ruined by the end of boosting and gold selling.
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>>581431698
that's only for the beta
if you don't care about the beta just wait until november and you can play it for the cost of a sub
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>>581431698
well you also get 30days ($15) and the Skelfs ($30) along with the beta and WC3 ($30). So it's fine
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>>581431845
i only like men and nonbinary people
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>>581431617
Feelsbad bro
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>>581428049
a lot of people will ignore all this stuff just to play something new and be with the herd together with streamers.
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>>581431460
It's slow retail, play with hd models and enjoy!
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>>581430545
After Azshara bombed the mega-continent into E.K., Kalimdor, Northrend, +various assorted, the peasant-class non-mage folk demanded that nobody go wild with Arcane magic, a natural right of any Highborn elf. Of such Highborn elves remaining un-nuked+un-naga'd, there were the High Elves (they threw a fit + magical storm and got exiled across the sea to become the actual High Elves people want, and post-near-genocide, the Blood Elves), and the Shen'dralar (Azshara's top nerds who recorded and saved all the best, biggest magic).

The Highborn president of the Shen'dralar, Big Dick Prince Tortheldrin (that ghost dickhead boss at the end of the ghosts+trees Dire Maul) decided that in order to live on without the Well of Eternity shooting direct Arcane heroin into their souls, they'd just summon demons and drink Fel vodka from them instead.

Normal timeline: BDP Torth goes through with this plan and the Shen'dralar spend literally thousands of years just juicing straight up demon Fel without the rest of the Night Elves knowing jack shit, up until their Fel crack addiction becomes too much and they start killing each other, seeking that greater high (and keeping the Demon dog boss in that Dire Maul wing from escaping), which is why they're all dickhead ghosts by the time we come to loot them.

Forever timeline: Some junkie elves, having a shred of lucidity in the face of injecting Fel, stage a protest against BDP Torth's idea. Reasonably, BDP Torth's response is to hunt down these retard protesters and use their traitorous, worthless souls as sacrifices to summon the delicious drug demons. The protesters flee, get on ships and flee further to the sea, then strike a deal with Air Elementals to live in an Isle up in the sky / elemental plane of Air for thousands of years. They become rainbow colored due to being in the sky, though most settle with blue due to rampant Azshara lust, until one day the Air Elementals just fuck off and their floating Isle sinks.
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>>581431782
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Just gonna leave this here if you wanna see a real talent tree overhaul, not whatever this rushed undercooked shit is:
https://project-epoch.org/talents/?class=warrior
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>>581431000
It doesn't, LB targets the nearest friendly by default RB targets the nearest hostile by default neither turns your character towards what you target automatically, you can also hold either down either LB/RB and then move your joystick and it will target the nearest target in the direction that you push it, there is an option to turn your character with your camera or to have the camera and character be independent and you can set a conditional to have it be independent or attached only when casting and the other way when not but that's it, I gave it a genuine and honest try because I'm a lazy ass and would like to lean back with my controller and play sometmes but it just feels like complete and total ass

Also not sure if it's a bug or not but you can't move your lifebar while in gamepad mode it's in the lower half of the screen and can't be moved if you go to edit mode and move it it snaps back to the bottom after you click save, I think they may change this in the future because right now when going in to edit mode with the gamepad enabled the default layout is gamepad and you can save new layouts but not change to them, either way very poorly thought out and implemented

this is what it looks like by default on a fresh new character
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the goys are going to keep pretending forever isn't bad instead of demanding blizzard to fix it while they can and it's still in beta and 6 months from now when the live servers are completely dead they'll beg blizzard for something new
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>>581431107
The truth is Blizzard can't make a new mmo or game to save their lives. So they're recycling assets from a 22 year old game that was loved by millions in hopes that it'll have the same success story as Vanilla -> TBC -> WotLK. Because if it doesn't Microsoft is going to fire the majority of Blizzard and replaced them with h1b indians.
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>>581431864
>game releases in a little over a month
its an early access. what you see is what youre getting in november lmfao
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>>581430764
>game is piss easy overall
Always was, unc.
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sovl
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>>581431736
they're saying it's retail because they haven't played it
most of them haven't played retail, either

for some reason there is currently a coordinated effort to spread disinfo about this game on 4chan specifically, likely to farm (You)s
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Maybe I dont understand the doomjeets but if you want a classic experience with only classic elements then....play classic?
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>>581431736
>So, like, it's heckin' retail cause it's easy? LOL!!!
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Am I making a mistake going human hunter and not dwarf hunter? besides the aura loss?
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>>581431990
It's not early access if everything gets deleted.
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>>581428049
Would be funny to see what forevers cash shop looks like 3 years from now.

35 shop mounts ,level boost, token, new race, new class, 50 transmog sets and a hearthstone animation.

#TotallyNotToilet
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>>581431885
>content
Ahhahahahaha. Enjoy your dungeons and raids. Queue up dude to do a battleground. Youll be bored instantly with their newest scam.
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>>581431617
>told us they'd have certain features and be a certain thing
such as?
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>watch the Q&A
>every question/answer is
>"will it be using the modern or classic version?
>"so it was really important for us to blah blah and because of this it will be using the modern version"
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>>581417124
Are these the wowfg guilds
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>>581431987
>h1b indians
SAAAAAR THIS IS GOOD THING, STUPID BENCHOD
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>>581431990
The level cap at launch will be 30?
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>>581431756
holy fuark that's a hot space goat
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>>581428589
>feels far more like wrath era with tbc tuning
That's sort of what the talent trees suggested. Like they took the Wrath trees and condensed them to 51 points then did a little tweaking after that.
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>>581432003
oops...

sovl....
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>>581431929
On the upside I lost about a day and was disappointed.
I think a lot of people will feel the same way.
JUST LIKE MY SONY GAMES!
YIPEEEEE, I'll just go play something else.
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>>581432035
wipes are extremely common in early access games, though
>>581432106
now youre just being obtuse
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>>581429684
you got that like 3x
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>>581430943
lguk is actually insanely small though, you can barely even fit as an ogre... look at the coords, 1k loc takes like 1 minute to walk
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>>581429901
Most people were doing it because it was faster than leveling on a fresh server where everyone is competing for mob tags and if you were on pvp especially as a streamer you were probably getting ganked a lot.
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>>581432020
This was announced as Classic plus btw
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>>581432009
It does feel pretty inorganic, most are just generic shitposts using almost entirely buzzwords
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>>581431617
>Look at how the retailtards are defending them.
Yeah but these retail players will move on when the next retail patch hits, the classic players might stay but they're a minority, this may have been a quick cashgrab but it's not sustainable long term it's pretty obvious, it's just a bizarre thing to do when they could have released a slutmog bundled with the brutosaur in retail for $100 again and it would sell more in an afternoon than forever will in it's short lifespan
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Just fucking make World of Starcraft already

>>581432076
If you wouldn't slut her out, you're gay
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is there a specific toggle for each thing or does it all have to be toggled on or off?
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>>581432047
Classic plus.
Like what the lady said on stage.
There's a start.
Now, you go ahead and question that and I'll go do literally anything else.
Even the ai slop gooner is gone, this shit sucks.
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>>581432020
I am, but the problem is the game is very old. Theyre unwilling to produce another magnum opus, and prefer to repeatedly scam. You should see their guidelines for content release, it’s probably ugly enough that we’d feel uneasy reading over it. Probably got lots of inclusion tactics aka BRAINWASHING ATTEMPTS designed because they have collected an immense amount of data in regards to subscriber retention, and use this rather than producing quality work, which is something not everyone would appreciate. What we’re left with is something NOBODY appreciates, but still pays for, because they’re the only people doing it.
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>>581432076
Don't american racists understand that, as a Brahman Indian hearing you insult "indians" is like trying to insult americans by insulting rednecks.

We don't even consider ourselves Indian. we're more likely to identify as Hindur or as our caste.
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>>581432236
>Plus
Exactly
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looks neat!
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>>581432252
>World of Starcraft
Shit would be deader than dead starcraft has absolutely zero brand recognition these days and making a game for a dozen 40 year old men who would rather go play private servers isn't a sustainable business model
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>>581432273
>Even the ai slop gooner is gone, this shit sucks.
I just woke up, what happened?
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>>581432273
Nice dodge. Now explain what your "certain features" are.
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>>581431736
>mana/energy don't regen on ticks
wtf does this mean?
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>>581432314
>Plus Retail
Lol
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>>581432252
>slut her out
Cuck, if I'm gonna be doing anything I'm gonna be doing it by myself.
>>581432296
>all of that cope and posts a white guy
whatever you say, pajeet, im gonna dick your dumb whores
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Is the game actually faster than classic? Isn't the whole reason people like Classic that dad gamers can semi afk each mob?
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I am playing a Troll Shaman
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Hello I am a player of the beta (trust me) but I am feeling like the beta that I am playing is not good, my wifes boyfriends 3 year old son also agreed and said that it is reflective of the state of modern society
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I have always been bad at this game because there are too many buttons, what class should I play in battlegrounds
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>>581432296
I'm not pulling out the bristol stool chart every time I need to identify one of you fuckers you're bug people and the word jeet suffices for all of you
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>>581432353
he's just another doomjeet pserf. It's off hours in the civilized world and daytime in their shitholes so they are taking full advantage.
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>>581432353
They quit, like me, and others.
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>>581432407
It takes 2 seconds to kill any mob, it's way too fast
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>>581432407
it's not, but probably will get faster once you get your full kit. They should do like epoch and buff the higher level mobs probably
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>>581432371
>Plus
Exactly
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>>581432002
It's not a mechanically hard game at all, but you're being disingenous if you're going to pretend that classic does not shit on you if you do stupid shit. If you're a level 5 and you pull 4 level 6 mobs in Classic, you're most likely going to eat shit and die. In Forever, it's not really a big deal. To be fair though, it seems that this is largely an issue of class balance, but mobs also don't hit nearly as hard as they do in Classic.
It's just a shame. There's no reason to dumb down the difficulty of Classic. If they wanted to pull in new players, all they needed was smoothed out gameplay. Hell, even throw in some filler buttons to make class rotations more interesting. But nuking any sense of danger was just such a stupid move, if intentional.
>inb4 "not reading that" concession
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>>581432482
>>581432484
Duality of man
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When Skyborne are inevitably folded into the base game I hope they add new zones and dungeons to the Elemental Plane and flesh it out. For the first time ever I'm kinda invested in seeing more.
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this guys is gonna spend all day here crying doom because he wasted 500$ on turdle wow
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>>581432407
Feels pretty close to vanilla to me
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>>581432073
yes
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>>581432505
>Retail
Hah
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>>581432296
I generally like brahmans but don't you guys still eat poo
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what exactly are the rules for first + last name? three letters min each? i need to figure out what i'm going to do
saw someone running around as "Fire Elemental", i like that
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>>581429095
Sir, that's what WoW elves are.
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>>581432476
Post a picture of your character.
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I pulled 3 mobs and died, but that doesn't fit the doomjeet narrative
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Okay so its jsut retail, an 8 slot bag form the first quest....
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>>581432515
I literally was getting chunked down to like 50-40% pulling a level 6 mob at level 5 on hunter, not sure what class you were playing though.2 mobs was absolutely a no go.
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>>581432407
God forbid I want to RP as a low level character when I'm a low level character. But I get it, my younger siblings love Monster Hunter Wilds over the previous entries. Zoomers are cooked.
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>>581432556
>Plus
Exactly
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>>581432035
Everything gets wiped? I thought part of the reason to buy it was to have the extra levels on the rest.
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>>581432605
>sell price 8s
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Skyborne (2026)
Goblins and Tinker (2027)
Ogres (2028)
Furbolg (2028)
Satyr (2029)
Necromancer (2030)
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>>581432605
I cannot even tell what you're complaining about.
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Does no one here know how to record a 20 second webm?
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>>581432515
Post a picture of your character.
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>>581432645
>Retail
Lol
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>>581432605
Indians can't count
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>>581432685
You should be lynched for trying to rape my wife 24/7
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>>581432568
needs a unique combination
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>>581432515
>Forever, it's not really a big deal
So what you're saying is you haven't played past the starter zone? Because the moment you leave it you're going to start getting hit like it's classic, play the fucking game and stop jerking off to streamers
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>>581432515
I don't find this beta particularly easier.
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>>581432346
shocking, another user outs themselves as brown
starting to see a pattern
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>>581432715
>Plus
Exactly
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>>581432605
8 slot bag
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>>581432663
No dude. You're literally play testing the game for the devs. None of this counts. That's why $60 to be a tester is cooked.
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>>581432515
>If you're a level 5 and you pull 4 level 6 mobs in Classic, you're most likely going to eat shit and die. In Forever, it's not really a big deal.
What are you talking about? What class is effortlessly tanking 4 higher-level mobs solo? Shaman certainly isn't, I can tell you from experience.
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Maybe it’s hunters before pet and mobs on zephras benign faster than they are supposed to. But I’m really not enjoying their starting zone

So far forever has been a 5/10 overall and zephras a 2, literally feels like I’m playing turtle wow
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>>581432782
>Retail
Lol
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>>581431938
Can't. Don't have beta access.
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>>581432634
Maybe it's just casters and paladin that are fucked up, because I regularly pull 3-4 on my priest and have been absolutely annihilating shit on mage+paladin as well. Feels like there's no risk at all in the pulls.
>>581432696
here u go sweatie :^)
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What happens six months post release and the game is dead?
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>>581432663
who the fuck are you people that don't know what a beta is?
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alright betabros, how stable are the servers? if i buy in will i be able to actually play the game? that's all i really care about right now, it looks fun...
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Blizz should have made it 5 gifted for a Forever beta key.
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>>581432825
>Plus
Exactly
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>how to save wow poorever:
make them delay the game for 3 months
make them add 3 more new classes, completely new
make them do a deeper balance change so the game is less solved at launch
make them remove some of the grotesque retail powercreep they have in already with the gear stuff
make them make the pve harder, less exp, monsters hard to kill, FORCE people to group up and play together instead of speedrunning solo
that's it, the game is saved
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>>581432685
If you're on windows it's built in by default now, open the xbox app and there should be a game record feature otherwise learn obs it's based and red pilled FOSS and if you're not fully retarded you can set it up in 10 seconds or less
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>>581432849
Try to solo an elite
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>Sky elf zone perma full
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>>581432857
It's not
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>>581432515
>If you're a level 5 and you pull 4 level 6 mobs in Classic, you're most likely going to eat shit and die. In Forever, it's not really a big deal
Surely you have proof of such a thing? You wouldn't just lie, would you?
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>>581432849
zoomed in crop of course, since you aren't actually playing the beta. just another seething turtletroon lmao.
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>>581432857
only issue is that the beta is on a unique NA server, I have 300 ms ping in europe
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>>581432884
>modern blizzard
>making a new class
yeah no thanks
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>>581432857
they're fine
its fun but not wildly different from niller (so far)
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no one is posting any gameplay because no one is playing the game
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>>581432605
inflation is so out of control that 6 slot bags are now 8 slots
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lil uzi vert
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I wish the AI slopper was here I need more elves getting orc'd
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>>581432968
they've done the forsaken paladin but it's not enough
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>got told by retards that skelves would be the most desired and played race
>beta where skelves are free ive only seen a handful so far in a sea of classic races

/vg/ is always wrong
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>>581432884
Pretty sure nobody who played classic wow was ever forced to group just for some random boar lol
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>>581433004
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>>581433037
nice bait lol
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>classic (2019) launch day levels of activity
>during a paid beta
holy shit this is gunna kill retail
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I fucking hate it when they make beta servers located in us
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Blizzard:
>Gives out beta keys
Also Blizzard:
>Woah, we had no idea the beta would be this popular!

So did tens of thousands of people go out and buy Australian McDonald's an hour before launch or what?
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>>581433096
the immense amount of seethe ITT is another success indicator. The private server fags and retoileters have not been this assmad in a very long time, possibly ever.
>>581433114
where should they put them, mongolia?
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>>581432852
They are thirdies that got the internet this year
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>>581433070
nta but it's true so far I've seen very few of them, maybe people are just not spoiling themselves but they seem rare so far
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>>581433186
But the retoilets love Forever?
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has anybody got controller ui working on steam controller?
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Camps built by the enemy faction better be attackable on the pvp realm.
Or maybe have a PvP only version called War Camps that give a bonus honor buff.
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With lone wolf being so high up in the MM tree what are the chances that the metafags force Survival hunters to take it? I really want to play one on launch but I don't want to get locked out of joining a guild because I insist on autistically having my pet with me at all times
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>it's just classic with new models and admittedly nice looking fog/lighting in some zones
>it's just going to be the same specs (and paladins) doing the same shit (but with paladins)
>can't even be a goblin with a gun or an ogre
What is the fucking POINT? It just seem so... redundant.
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>>581432908
why is she always flat?
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>>581432908
zuglet factory
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what are you guys listening to while you are playing forever?
for me its
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgAVoL49H3M
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>>581433350
why not?
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>>581431617
I called it back in February in the /wowcg/ general
You simply can't please everyone

Classic+ will be met with poor to luke warm reviews
And it certainly seems we're on track for such a reception
Still going to play it for a week or month and who knows
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>>581429105
Restarted the game
And I deleted cache
and I tried lowering settings (it barely helps, raises it to 60)
and I restarted my computer
fucking FPS still shit
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I had to spend time with my stupid girlfriend but my wifey is finally in now!
https://litter.catbox.moe/euftyg.jpg
https://litter.catbox.moe/h5pg19.jpg
https://litter.catbox.moe/iuxjfz.jpg
https://litter.catbox.moe/bnrfrs.jpg
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>>581433261
>>581433070
>>581433037
no, about the first fucking part
>got told by retards that skelves would be the most desired and played race
no one, no one, not a single fucking sane human being in the history of mankind has ever been recorded as saying or thinking this.
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>>581433325
not a hunter pro but theres always pets that give a buff to your party, your guild will never be mad at you if you use one of those
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>>581433449
We prefer flat blue elves here
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>>581433342
exactly, it's just a classic rerun with retail UI/gfx assets. I don't understand why people refuse to see it
it'll be dead in 3 months because there is nothing new, nothing to explorer, it is simply undercooked as fuck, they need to add more changes and keep it in the oven for longer
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>>581433452
I say and think this.
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What killed the hype?
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Been checking my email all day like a sad fucking faggot for my email, like a fucking dog whimpering and checking the bowl to see if food will magically be there.
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Any changes to enh talents?
Somebody claimed the ones at blizzcon were outdated
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>>581433526
and you should be locked up
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>>581433397
https://youtu.be/aF_3bPipN8Q?si=9juhRqrBzM5iLUXK
classics of course
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>>581433468
Yeah I always run wolf but I'm just afraid that the damage increase will be like in retail where it becomes mandatory if you want a spot, I guess I'll wait and see how it shakes out when we have more numbers, if blizzard fucks over hunters from having pets in 2 out of 3 specs I'm going to have a fucking meltdown
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white boi come home
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>>581433440
buy a better computer, ranjeesh
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>>581433283
be cool if the buffs you can set up depended on your pvp, imagine a big dick grand marshall rolling up and dropping a huge banner rallying everyone to victory
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>>581428737
>all the streamers will quit
based. streamers actively make the game worse with their bands of sycophants clogging up the servers.
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>>581433550
A couple of talents swapped position on the tree. That's literally it.
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>>581433449
now make one with her bf watching her get orc'd from the cuck chair in her new campsite please... do it for me at least...
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>>581433325
if you can do the UBRS thing and more damage than the healers, I don't see why they would force you to change.
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>>581432993
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is anyone else having insane lag? I can't do anything, spells aren't going out and can't hit anything
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>>581432296
how the fuck does your statement make any sense?
>as a (specific indian), hearing you insult (general indian) is like trying to insult (generic americans) by insulting (specific american)
put backwards:
>as a redneck, hearing you insult "americans" is like trying to insult indians by insulting brahman indians.
But we're not insulting brahman indians, we're insulting fucking indians
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>>581433617
I already did I'm snuggled up next to my slightly smelly nelf druid gf as we speak
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>>581417124
This brown hotwife looking for bvll?
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>>581433617
NO, white boi come home now!
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>>581433712
He's trying to say that he's just as racist against non-Brahman Indians as the rest of us. It's like how Serbs and Croats are technically different races but no one outside the Balkans cares.
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>>581433186
>the immense amount of seethe ITT is another success indicator
Cold, hard, TRVKE.
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>>581433602
post more whitemane goonslop


how are we feeling gamers?
few observations as a feral main
>hurricane no cd, so ferals do have at least tiny bit of aoe
>weapons dps now directly contribute to feral attacks, not just stat sticks
>the early profession stuff is cool, notable outliers: fishing for 8% kings and alchemy for early mp5 recovery from campsite

fishing has some cheap attack power fish recipe too, its kinda cool
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>>581433449
Zero shot a freak like you has a real gf.
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fuck me i might main undead paladin. feels way better than i thought
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If they're going to make us use HD models they should give us retail customization options let me put leaves in my elf's hair and scares on her face, don't half ass it full ass it or get out
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does the last name make it easier to not have a name you want taken or something? i need to know how this works so i can think of something clever
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>>581433747
I love raccoon girl
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Let's be honest, this whole thing is a failure. Forever won't last a year even.
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>>581433186
literally 99% of the praise is from retail. why would retail complain about the game being more like retail?
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>>581433891
>classic players the moment they get a retail class
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>>581433848
mana regen at low levels feels overtuned, no clue about higher levels
mobs are about as dangerous as they should be
sex elves aren't called sex elves for nothing
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>>581433809
yes, inter-conflict is a thing, I hate the 49ers and any SanFranciscan as much if not more a Brahman can hate a casteless.

Doesn't mean the insult misfires. when it's intra-conflict. An insult to americans applies to all americans 49ers and all
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>>581434004
>paladins dont exist in vanilla
????
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>>581433946
They almost certainly would have if streamers hadn't convinced them that they absolutely have to add SD models.
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>>581433449
does your real gf know you are making these? Is she ok with it if so?
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Where is the frightened Paladin?
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>>581433995
99% of the seethe is from poors and troons. Why should anyone care what they think?
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>>581433960
yeah, since theyre doing these mega servers names would be impossible after like 2 months otherwise
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>>581434004
it's more like tbc paladin if anything
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>Lets be honest
You've never been honest a day in your life
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>>581434036
I think what you're missing is that Indians are so incredibly inbred that each caste is like its own race. He still shouldn't have used rednecks though, Italian-Americans would have been a better comparison.
And they all eat poo. He hasn't accounted for that.
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what level did everyone get to? I got to level 11 and still in the skyborne leveling area when does it end
>>
EVERYWHERE I GOT THERES THOUSANDS OF NIGGAS
THIS IS GREAT
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>>581434112
i play guile in sf, im only honest. in wow? im a arcane mage, NOT HONEST
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this is the last blizzard resort
they know wow is dead and only kept on by mythic raiding rwf
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I'm going to sleep, if you want in on <wowfg> type /who g-"wowfg" and whisp anyone, started from nothing so thank you to everyone who joined so far
I like that the game usually puts you in the same realm as your guild mates, it's fun encontering anons in the open world
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>>581434149
>got to level 11 and still in the skyborne leveling area when does it end
Probably around 20.
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>>581433960
Yeah basically, from the way they made it sound at blizzcon it was going to be exclusive to the roleplaying server but it looks like it's actually for all of them, the good thing is the first name is now never going to be taken because you can just make up a new last name, the bad thing is that players that want one name are now out of luck


I genuinely think it's the best feature they've added in years but I am an autistic rp fag and have literally been begging for them to do it in every version of the game for years on end I like to think at least one dev saw my threads and took pity on me for asking so many times
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So have they fixed the horrendous lag when you switch over into a populated zone? I went from 240fps to 30fps with stutters walking into swind from elwynn, but then i had to go to work
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>>581434149
11.5 or something

my first hour of gameplay was infinite lag and 10s delay between spellcasts
>>581434219
its a good feature
you can see genuinely hilarious cow names in mulgore
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>>581433990
Then I hope my aussie paypig at least enjoyed their burger
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>>581434116
>Indians are so incredibly inbred that each caste is like its own race.
so are 49ers and San Franciscans
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>>581434116
No, it's a better comparison because it's like trying to insult a NY university educated rich liberal by making fun of poor evangelical redneck. The point is that he agrees and doesn't feel targeted at all.
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>>581434192
>if you want in on <wowfg>
lmfao no
Imagine being in a guild with these retards
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>>581433689
Was the mage comprehension skill a retail thing? I remember it was something in SoD.
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>>581434219
>from the way they made it sound at blizzcon it was going to be exclusive to the roleplaying server
i'm curious how you got that impression
it was very clearly an accomodation for the megaservers
you can think of the way it works in other versions of the game as your server being your last name
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give me one reason to come back to wow
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>>581434004
Paladin was introduced in vanilla WoW
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>>581434219
they didn't include it for fun or rp anon. it's clearly a technical necessity because of the region wide servers. it would be too difficult to come up with unique names using the vanilla naming system, the first and last name thing is simply an elegant alternative to the cross realm solution of using your server name as a suffix.
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>>581434239
cap your foreground FPS.
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>>581434239
thats never gonna be fixed
its just how wow works, nevermind if you play retail nuwow or a private server, walking into busy org will drop you from 100+ to 40fps
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>>581434328
it's back
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>>581434314
No, it's original.
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>>581430102
"No discord" lmao, that just means it'll be vaguely hidden behind the inner circle. off to a great start
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>>581434323
Because it was mentioned right after the rp realm ruleset explanation, maybe they didn't intend for it to come off that way but that's how I took it, I assumed it would be optional or nonexistent for regular servers, I'm happy it's in either way though
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I think the Skyborne starting zone is unironically comfy
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Why are blue elves like this?
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>>581433689
i'm BUSY
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>palas 3 shot mobs
totally not the pet class again
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How are the other zones/classes to level? I swear to god Zephyr island fucking sucks
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>>581434345
>cleansing ritual before ingesting inhuman amounts of white bot cum
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the most fun part of vanilla was the opening of the dark portal which you'll never get in wow forever.
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>>581433671
Totemic focus and tidal mastery swapped places?
That's it?
It's bullshit that rets int to spell power conversion is 1:1 and enh is just 1:0,30

Shamans are the most oppressed class in the world
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>>581434087
Retail players hate that people wanna get away from the maze, mythic raiding, crest farming and their 1000 mounts. Pserver rats hate they won't be able to make real money out of Forever. Poors hate sky elves.
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Can someone please check Engineering for batteries.
The Manual Crowd Pummeler is in the game, with a limit of 3 charges, and I want to know if there is a way to recharge it, or are ferals going to have to grind Gnomeregan for endgame?
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>>581434337
Technically your bnet id was already a way to do that if you want to be cowfucker the system could have invisibly appended your bnet id so other players see cowfucker but you see cowfucker#1111 and then you just give the #1111 if someone is manually inviting you and not right clicking you, there has never really at any point in time been a reason that their couldn't be multiple people with the same name other than blizzard being too lazy to do it
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>>581434481
brother, there are big big plans for the dark portal. lets just say we wont be "opening" it per se
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>>581434481
How do you know that? They might just add a demon invasion where the portal opens but you can't go through it
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>>581434423
It's incredibly comfy tbdesu
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>>581434446
Which class can't three shot a mob in forever wow?
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>>581434446
the rest of them
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>>581434503
what the fuck is "the maze"
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>>581434503
All indicating that Forever will be a smash hit.
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>>581434550
Druid, at least so far for me
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https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/player-names-are-out-of-control/2353048/3
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Any lunch time fatfucks from down under to grace a hoper before sleep?
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>>581434428
>god I wish that was that m- ack
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>>581434695
>Yall
Redditors are so fucking gay
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>>581434446
Paladins have always been the strongest and easiest 1-10 class
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>>581434695
>Grand Wizard
What's wrong with a bit of RP?
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Post more ai slop of tauren females
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>>581434849
lol, oh you
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>>581434869
>AI
die
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>>581433397
drake - cheetah print. that new music video is kino
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>>581434849
I honestly didn't understood that one buy Vajaina Proudmoore was really funny
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Thoughts?
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Honestly if someone gets caught with the name Whites Only they should be perma banned. No forced name change. Just account deletion.
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why does relogging fix the fps issues
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what was the purpose of adding two names to wow forever though? it's kind of distracting
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>>581434770
What's wrong with saying yall?
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>>581434972
needs to be nerfed to 1%
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Any aussiebros with a spare key still?
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>Minus 500k twitch views
What killed the hype?
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>>581434510
you will have to use an actual weapon as a feral.
your weapon is no longer a stat stick, it now matters a lot for your dps
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>>581434510
One of the datamine sites
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>>581434973
It is a pretty reddit name.
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I've played a lot of era and a lot of 1x pservers. The only difference in leveling speed on Forever is that we have like 10-15 new quests and slightly higher damage for some classes like paladin because they now have a button to press instead of auto attacking. Things feel fine and I've already died twice to area aggro (like healing myself next to an unaggro'd pack) and the new elites spattered around (specifically that orange caster murloc at the southeast of elwynn).
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>loading up random characters just to see how their hd-on-sd animations look
>starter zones still swarming at 10pm pst
Rather comfy.
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>>581434992
because there is one megaserver so they need to increase the number of possible names
no idea why this shit is going over so many heads
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>>581435004
People who never leave their computer desk think its a word redditors exclusively use
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fuck man this feels like 2019 again
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>>581434972
Human paladins are feasting!
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>>581434973
>can't name yourself after a common gear challenge run
smdh
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>>581435126
I have my fan blowing on me right now, I can fucking *feel* this image
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-2Zodhr9G0

YOU
ARE STRAPPED
TO THE WALL
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>>581435171
in a good way or in a bad way?
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>>581435134
the average retard who is interested in classic has a sub 70 IQ so it's gonna be hard for them to figure things out unless they're told directly
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>>581435205
in a good way. everything is full, people discovering new things and enjoying the vibes
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>>581435101
Paladins have always had judgement from level 4.. and it does a ton of damage in the early levels
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>fishing even more OP than before

Absolutely based. Chud chanters and Flask bots on suicide watch
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>>581435181
>I can fucking *feel* this image

thats your fan
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>>581424761
poorfag zoomers losing their mind over 60 bucks, dude a 60 buck onetime purchase is fucking nothing compared to food and rent costs
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>>581435171
that wasnt that long ago
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>>581432950
if you ask me REALLY nicely I MIGHT buy you beta access too, little turdie~
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How are warriors looking?
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I never enjoyed raiding with Tim, he’s a hugest fag but he’s the only one making raid guilds. Also like half of Tim’s army is disabled so they’re shit wow players. Joining one of his world first prog guilds is ultimately a soulless experience because you know Tim’s just designing it on purpose that way. Ends up really just not being an interesting way to spend my time, this Tim guy is a fucking torturer of humans dude. Not enjoying this at all.
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>>581433675
What do you mean my wifey's bf? She only has a husband and that's me!
https://litter.catbox.moe/a42szs.jpg
>>581434083
She knows and she doesn't care because it doesn't bleed into my irl relationships and behavior
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>>581433697
yup. i cant play for more than 10-15 minutes without relogging because i eventually get to 1000+ ms
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>>581434972
humans can now only equip swords
if you see any human with anything other than a sword you can guild kick him and report him for griefing
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>>581435260
You're no fun
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>>581435270
>got burned out on beta
>can't fully enjoy launch
Whose crying now
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>>581435134
there are more possible combinations with a 12 character name than you could conceivably make before the end of humanity.
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>>581435293
how does he get away with it?
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>>581417124
>check rax stream
>he is standing in what lighting and mood wise are tirsfal glades
>second later I see zhevras
>he is standing in harpy zone in northern barrens


This visual updated will kill Classic vibes harder than Cataclysm did.
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>>581434992
It's to make #nochanges uncs cry
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>no priest class for blue elves
so not only is this shit something that cucked us (at least temporarily) out of helf/belf, but you also can't play the objectively coolest and best class on it either. Incredible.
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>>581435181
I like how the newer lighting system handles nights more than days desu. Very appropriate for snowy weather.
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All the new stuff directly buffs Fury Warrior. New drops? Buffs Fury. Campsites? Fury. New stats? Fury. More profession items? Fury. More quests to deal with? Fury.

Oh my lord, the golden age for Warrior Tanks has arrived, finally, after trillions of versions of shitty retarded autistic Classic versions.
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>>581435293
f-list?
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>>581435293
10/10 thank you anon
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give beta key please
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>>581435251
Yeah but now they keep their seal and they have holy strike
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>>581435369
no one wants to be named xwaegaerykui
now any GOOD name that people might actually want can be paired with a GOOD surname people might actually want and create a GOOD NAME without the need to keysmash just to get past character creation
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>>581435407
Nightime Winterspring will be giga comfy.
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>>581435407
SOVL
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>>581435293
I'm still mad the EU/NA thing turned out to be false and I can't meet the queen in person. Maybe you'll enjoy warrior here. Too bad Alliance side on NA will be absolutely butchered by assmongoloid fanboys.
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>>581435362
>tries to pull the "you don't have beta" card
>immediately tries to change the subject when proven wrong
i was trying to be nice, but i guess you can go back to breaking rocks in turdieland for beta access. you've got a few weeks, i'm sure you can scrape together enough rupees to do the australian vpn method, maybe..?
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>>581435264
>$60 for a partial game you can only play for a few weeks
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>>581435136
only niggers and people from the south say that
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question for the Lorechads
what race would be of a pirate who exclusively kidnaps male goblins to make them his concubines?
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How’s Darkshire looking?
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Anyone else hurt by how high fidelity stuff in the elf island is? Looks like Retail what the fuck, the golden chains have so many polygons
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I was apprehensive about the soul-gas, but holy shit the game looks so good and I'm only on the 5 preset.
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>be a thirdie
>can't afford beta
>pc can't run the new client
>private servers shut down / dead
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>tfw the class you want to play has a tank or healing spec so you'll never get to actually have fun
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she put herself in the game
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Anyone been to undercity? Is that forsaken archer bitch from the new WC3 campaign somewhere in the city?
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>start mage
>cast 3 fireballs
>OOM
but people said you had infinite mana
>pull 3 mobs
>die without help or kiting
but people said nothing did damage
>wait for the in-game weather to clear up and for it to be day
>fog eases up and you can see things as usual again
but people said it was just fog slop

I dunno but sounds like a lot of shit is just made up by people who hasnt actually played
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>>581435565
I think it looks great. Then again I'm not a contrarian or poorfag so I don't consider shitty graphics to be a good thing.
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is easy respeccing a beta/demo thing or we gonna have to pay gold still to respec?
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>>581433004
Name: Dindu Noggenjogger
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>>581435524
But you also get the 30 dollar race, 15 dollars of sub time. So really it's only 15 dollars for a key and some stupid pet/transmog bullshit.
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>>581435606
And that's a good thing :3
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>>581435565
Not me, feels pretty vanilla to me
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>>581435606
I dont see it
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>>581435628

Weather is awesome in Dwarf zones. Fog was must be great in the human zone
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Do warriors get busted amounts of HP regen from spirit stacking in this version?
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>>581435594
Isn't tanking demonstrably more fun and based than DPS?
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Watching people's dramatic reaction to NOT-Classic NOT being Classic is honestly pretty funny
But honestly the worst thing about it for me so far is the shitty retail UI like target frames and the SD models being the WOD era models and not the actual old models, but the models might be something I can get used to.
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>>581435473
that's a skill issue. losers copied a name i created on nearly every server.
forcing people to be creative and unique is just a profit margin decision.
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do addons work? and are there any worth installing?
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>>581435524
Actually I bought an Australian a burger and I was gifted beta access as a reward for my kindness.
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I'm keeping a list of retards who refer to DM as VC and will be getting them blacklisted from all relevant content and guilds.
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All I've learned from this is that WoW players don't actually like WoW
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>>581435684
Damn I was hoping I could play on NA since I don't want to play with G*rms, Frogs and Ruskis. I had 100 ping on Era but this is too much.
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>>581435654
THATS HECKIN NOT COOL MY DUDE, STOP BEING RACIST AND TOUCH SOME GRASS
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>>581435293
wh...what's your ign for the forever beta?
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>>581435823
It will always be VC retailboy
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>>581435771
you're paying for it forever with your latency.
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>>581435836
I noticed that as well. I think it's got to be sour grapes turtlefags who are just mad that their P2W server got shut down.
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The moment I realized they're trying to funnel Retail players in before they axe that entire line of development, the more a lot of the changes/design choices started to click into place.

I'm still excited, just a bit less so.
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>>581435270
thats either classic or some private server, you won't show the full frame because you know it would discredit you. That's why you have posted two cropped pics now.
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>>581434083
different anon but my wife knows I beat it to wow and overwatch porn and doesn't care she has made fun of me for being in to mei because I like fat asians
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>>581435632
I don't see how it's contrarian to want a game to have a cohesive art style.
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>>581435905
Like what?
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holy kino
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>>581435905
>the more a lot of the changes/design choices started to click into place.
such as?
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>>581435853
If Era is fine then it might be worth checking again when the full servers launch in case there's one closer to you.
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>the world will refresh
>the world will refresh
>the world will refresh
>the world will refresh
Is there a way to delay this or stop it?
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Ah Darkshore... where I got groomed by a 50yo roleplayer when I was like 12 in vanilla
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>>581434849
whats funny about it?
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can anyone in beta enter a dungeon and say if there are the cata+ style dungeon maps in game?
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>>581435628
Skill issue. I'm pulling 8 mobs and finishing the pull at full health because I'm decked out in greens that have the stats of level 50 epics.
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>>581436042
FOREVER FRESH
FOREVER FASHY
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>>581436042
Click okay
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>>581436054
you what?!
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>>581434960
>>581436065
grand wizard = title for leaders in the KKK
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>>581436042
no
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>>581435975
>>581436021
>tr*nsmog
>wrath/generally more modern spell additions
>new UI
The tier sets also legitimately look like they were made for the retail game and ported down to this one. Like I said, I'm not even necessarily opposed to some of these things, it's just an obvious aspect of design philosophy.
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>>581435524
i actually wanted the new WC3 campaign and payed an extra 30€ for the bundle with all the extra wow shit and gametime, new campaign is cool btw, might check out the beta once the hype dies down a bit
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They really need to backport the Forever HD animations into retail somehow. The more subdued movement and idle animations are so much better it's insane.
I think the fog is too far forward, needs to go out at least another mile or two. Works great in the distance where you would expect it though. And again, everything just looks great at night.
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>>581435517
I'm waiting like a good non-min maxer
I don't need dessert before dessert you fuck!
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We in the wow community have to do better, we shouldn't have to see bigoted things like neck stomper or hang niqqers, they are childish, and also you should vote for what i want btw, this isn't a choice i seriously mean it. If i see one W*ite boy not reporting the names then I'm gonna get my troon friends to ruin your career. Thank you for your time.
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>>581436138
So something you can turn off with transmog
Class changes are literally THE #1 reason for doing a classic+ in the first place.
and UI which you can make whatever you want regardless.
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>>581436138
transmog is gay but adding more design space for gearing is not a bad thing and NO ONE has been able to explain the problem with the UI to me (someone who doesn't play retail and enjoys being able to customize my hotbars in XIV)
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>>581436087
If you say so saar, do not forget to report to your brahmin
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>>581435905
Genuinely delusional, retail is their biggest money maker they'll never cut it because they can put out minimum effort ai generated slop like midnight and then sell outfits and mounts and it will make more in a day than a full fledged game release will in it's lifetime, if anything this is to hold off the massive bleeding of the classic population now that era is stagnant and mainline classic is reaching WoD which is going to die off within days of launching, this is their retirement home for classic players that also has to have enough appeal to the retail players that the bean counters will let them keep the servers open
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Zephras isle fucking sucks as a low lvl quest zone
>every mob is faster than you so fuck you if you’re a hunter
>kill 20 mobs
>kill 20 mobs
>kill 20 mobs
>loot 20 items
>loot 20 items but the drop rate sucks
All the while nothing gives a fucking smidgen of xp. Took me almost 3 hours to hit lvl 10, I’ve done that in hardcore classic ssf in an hour 10
>but the world is the main character!!
There’s nothing fun about agonizingly fighting for shit xp with 0 abilities. God damn.

How’s warlock to level? Is tirisfal as kino as i assume it is?
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>>581435632
One of the most annoying things that forever is going to have to deal with is people throwing tantrums whenever they
>use assets from expansions, rather than spending time and money remaking assets that already exist, even if those assets don't feel out-of-place
>make new assets that don't have 2004 polygon counts or texture resolution
You can't please Classic players. The game will have to look like shit or it won't appease them. And even if it tries to, it will fail in their eyes for some other reason. So what's the point?
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>>581436257
>levelling is slow
Kino, doomers here said it was going to be fast and easy like retoilet.
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>>581436257
go back to retail
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>>581436054
>elf player are pedos
as expected
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>>581436341
it's slow to retail players fast to classic players, a game that pleases no one
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I was told by people here the new models didn't have SD versions... this is the SD model of this new item right ingame level 5 skyborne quest.
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>>581436117
oh, okay, it's not very funny
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>>581436246
Bruh they literally ran out of lore for Retail, and Midnight is bombing. During their big epic, this raid tier is like some filler troll slop.
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>>581436246
>mainline classic is reaching WoD which is going to die off within days of launching
I never played MoP or WoD or even Cata but I did play Nostalrius and I remember that nearly all of the seething about retail back then was specifically about WoD. Some people were really mad about the pandas and obviously folks weren't happy about Cata nuking the whole world map but mostly WoD was what pissed people off.
Part of that is obviously because it was current but I just know that wasn't the only reason.
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which streamer do i watch for forever beta content?
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>enjoy retail for the high endgame content and collecting
>enjoy classic era/hardcore for the world, slower pace, simpler gameplay, and rpg gearing

I played to level 10 on a dorf shaman and it just feels like a private server. I don't even know how to put the feeling into words or if there is even a point but it's just sad that everything I expected of blizzard came true and I'm still disappointed in them.
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>>581436154
Is the new WC3 campaign already out?
Fuck I might buy it too...
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>>581436054
>/wowfg/troon origin story
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>>581436385
Dont listen to what anyone says in the thread, 90% of the claims are by people who havent played the game and they're just spouting random shit they saw on reddit
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>>581436234
I play retail but I really prefer the classic UI over the minimalistic retail UI
If there's a way to toggle the classic target bars then please let me know
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>>581435925
crazy how fast those pservers are porting NPCs introduced into Forever in them, huh, anon?
Almost like I knew a cropped pic would cause you to violently sperg out, and that's why I did it. Even ran back to the starter zone, just for you. You will now provide me more entertainment :^)
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>>581436382
>>581436054
based
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Every starter zone has hundreds of people, this shit isn't playable.
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Horde btw
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>>581436054
roleplaying servers, not even once
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>all the streamers are bored and done already
Lol, lmao even
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>>581436501
there was simply no way I was going to use the classic UI if i had the choice because i use an MMO mouse and i need my hotbars arranged in 3 columns to match my thumb buttons
if your only concern is aesthetics there is probably already an addon available though
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>>581436587
which ones?
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>>581432908
>high elves tan blue
genius
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>>581436451
>slower pace

why is everyone saying it's faster?
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Why are uncs like this?
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>>581435524
I got Warcraft 3 + Forsaken Kingdom, then an extra €30 for access to Forever is nothing
I wasn't planning on getting beta access before
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>>581435514
You had my wifey's hopes up :(... How are you enjoying the game so far? I'm taking it slow
>>581435438
She really is a 10!
https://litter.catbox.moe/x0084q.jpg
>>581435873
What's yours?
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>>581436587
they all went to sleep
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>>581436625
all of them, duh
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honestly, they ruined the elf zones to the point where i'm not going to level a night elf now. no purple lighting, no darkness in darkshore. a big ass ugly hyjal jutting from the sky. they had one job to do, damn it.
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>>581436564
Looks like a weird blood elf Taylor Swift
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>>581436564
for white men btw
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>>581436564
looks like a blood elf
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>>581436463
yep i is like the rexxar campaign in frozen throne
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>>581436564
whats crazy is that I look like that
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>>581436604
The action bars and customization I don't mind, just really dislike the target frames and overall sleek look over the rugged Classic UI.
It's about the appearance, not functionality
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>Recruitment is already filled with advertisements for "dad gamer" guilds
I hate modern gaming
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>>581436564
she looks like she fucks undead men
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>>581436635
Because they're based
Reminder that afrasiabi's character name in EQ was Tigole Bitties
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>>581436408
They ran out of lore for this as well it's called writing new lore, enjoy your blue elves troon, retail is going to arathor next expansion and meeting the GoT rip off fire king guy
>>581436418
WoD was a genuinely shitty expansion, multiple areas were cut, the planned shared main capital city of the expansion was cut, garrisons had a bunch of features cut, one of the major patches literally did nothing but fix some bugs and add a selfie camera, the time gated facebook farmville gameplay was mandatory, the champion gearing system was tedious, there was not a single good feature in WoD, there are a handful of faggots that will try to convince you that mythic raiding was a good thing when by the end of the expansion less than 1% of the still active playerbase had even touched it, it was just truly a godawful fucking experience
>>
anyone who opted in for beta get their code?
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>>581436680
except asmon, the biggest hater of modern blizz among all current and former wow streamers that hasn't played the game at all in over two years, said he thinks forever is very good and that he is excited to play it tomorrow.
got a counterexample for me?
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>>581436650
>She really is a 10!
Now slop her giving her husband sph
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>buy the beta goypack
>launch game
>select roleplay server
>no realms are currently available
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>make a priest
>take disc and holy talents
>disregard healing, take everything that buffs smite, holy fire, and holy nova
Remember, this is a SOVLFVL game about the journey, so I expect spots in raids.
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>>581436635
YOU BIGOTED BASTARD!!!! IM GONNA TROON OUT AND GO ON A MASS SHOOTING SPREE NOW!!!!!!!!!!
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>>581436750
i haven't played any version of WoW in half a decade so i guess i'm just not attached to the target frames either but i can see how it'd be annoying if you're really used to the original
i believe there is actually already an addon to bring back the old ones though

>>581436776
>the time gated facebook farmville gameplay was mandatory
i remember tons of bitching about this in particular
it was 100% instanced right? so it was basically single player content
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>>581436776
You realize WoD was the product of Activision aborting it and moving the WoW team to their pet baby Legion?
The only reason Legion was the only passable expansion post-Activision is because it had an entire extra half an expansion of development time. And even then all the crap that plagues retail can be traced back to this era.
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>>581436860
didnt they add dual specc ?
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>>581436860
Smite priest are unironically really fucking strong 40-60 (literally better than shadow) and the new buffs to priests might actually put them in b/a tier for dps
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>>581436860
I opened the calc and was pleasantly surprised to see there's pretty much an ideal 51 pt spread for exactly that.
Shame sweatbeards would chimp out if you brought it as a dps.
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So beta testers, does it mostly play like classic(vanilla), wotlk or retail?
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>looking at Elemental Shaman tree
>Lava Burst has no chance for free proc
>it also cannot proc overload
>it is 2.5 seconds with no cast reduction talents
>lightning bolt does slightly less damage but is like 1.5 secs cast and can overload

Am I retarded in thinking Lava Burst is only good for PvP?
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we want weakauras back
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They should add retail walking and running animations. Ts is so goofy
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so can any fellow huntard tell me if pets scale with gear now?
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Made horde fem druid skelf, ask me anything
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>>581436927
I hope they bring order hall like things to Forever and some solo grind content like Mage Tower levels of fun/difficulty (can be outgeared as long as you didnt do it week 1), but longer. That's what Forever needs to keep people playing, not fomo season sloppa like the new pvp system.
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>>581436054
she's waiting for her orc lover
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>>581436418
>Part of that is obviously because it was current but I just know that wasn't the only reason.
It legitimately wasn't a finished product. And I don't mean the current retail discourse of buggy patches, I mean to the extent of WoD flatly including far less content than any previous expansion by a shocking amount.
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>50% of the playerbase goes paladin
>Blizz adds Scarlet Enclave as a tier 2 raid
>it has holy elemental bosses that are immune to holy damage
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>>581437059
do pets scale with gear now ?
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>>581436650
can you name or tripfag please so I can filter you, your slop is awful and it burns my eyes
you've never improved your style and it's always been low quality
I have no idea why you assume anyone is ok with you spamming your shit this frequently
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PSA FOR EU
YOU HAVE TO USE A VPN TO THE US TO FIX THE LAG AND FREEZING
SMALL INDIE COMPANY
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>>581437016
how do you know how much damage it does if no one has used it?
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>>581437026
>waaaah i'm too retarded and ADHD riddled to pay attention for 5 seconds so i keep dying waaaaaah! i need my giant cheat banners on screen that tell me how to play the video game!
No.
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>>581436860
they specifically said they intend for all 3 specs of every class to be viable in raids
probably it will still be possible to fuck up your build by being retarded though
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>>581437015
Classic/Tbc feeling xp/damage, wrathish feeling playstyle but a little slower, retail skin.
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>victory rush is at level 20
bro cmon PLEASE
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what are the best mix of graphic settings for performance and looks
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>>581436902
>it was 100% instanced right? so it was basically single player content
There was very little to do in WoD outside of raid logging or PvP and the fact that the main hangout area was a solo instanced area just made it feel even worse.
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This expansion is gonna be crazy when it drops
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*lags out of existence*
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>>581436775
Tigole is Jeff Kaplan.
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Any ally pvp guild?
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>dwarf rapist face removed from HD options
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>All the boomers from my classic vanilla guild are playing the beta
>My tbc guild died, they're all playing the beta
>Cuck retail friends are also playing the beta
>They all love it outside of character model issues
So this is it? Classic and Retail are just straight fucked, right?
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>>581437125
Lol based, fuck eurangutans
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So I looked on twitch and it just looks like WoW? How is blizzard able to sell the same shit 3-4 times? Are gamers that retarded?
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My bloody basterds the game run likes shit on my laptop. I’m in Australia for 2 years so I’m not about to drop big money on a better rig, i handled pandaria better than this shit what’s going on
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>>581436902
Yep your garrison was 100% instanced you entered it and you were alone because each one was "unique" in that you had so many building slots you could choose from, herbalism, mining and fishing also become completely irrelevant because you got those for free and their buildings shat out resources at you every couple of hours, every other profession was timegated behind work orders that took hours to a full day to complete as well so they were more tedious to level than ever, even now going back and doing them retroactively for the retail furniture sets is pure cancer
>>581436927
okay and don't see what that has to do with what I said at all, the expansion was still hated and it wouldn't have been any better if they had a full team on it most of the ideas were just rotten from the start, tying so much content to an idle game that was in an instanced area was a massive mistake, and that wasn't something caused by short development time the mission table was considered core to the expansion from the time the alpha started, the fact that they pulled people off of it so that they could take legion from shit to mediocre didn't really matter in the end
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>>581437209

>>581437274
try limiting your foreground FPS.
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>>581437120
>
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>>581437274
Shouldn't have spent all that money on Maccas, mate.
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>>581437274
>I’m in Australia for 2 years
go back
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>>581437236
>game is significantly more braindead than classic due to less mob damage, overpowered classes, etc, plays faster in general too
>game is significantly more braindead than retail due to less complex rotations and classic-level difficulty balancing, plays much slower
Neither side is going to be happy. This shit will die off in a few months besides the retard moths attracted to the occasionally bing bing wahoo content drop.
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>>581437257
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>>581437074
Interesting. Obviously the design philosophy of retail doesn't help things here, either. Content has to be cycled out every 2-3 years so anything that ships broken is unlikely to be fixed.
Imagine if OSRS never got a chance to fix Zeah because they had to shift all dev priorities to Menaphos.
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>>581437236
Forever is disguised as classic but what it really is is blizz going “holy fuck we ruined the story can we please have a clean slate”

They absolutely intentionally dropped forever right in time to fuck over tbc and retail
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>>581437274
It has a memory leak. You can also try /console volumeFog 0 to disable the volumetrics, it has a notable impact on performance.
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>>581437078
>xhe thinks elemental damage will matter at all within a single patch
lol
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I just hate that I'm going to have to make concessions about how my character looks because I have to choose options that look okay on both SD and HD models and the best appearances never overlap...
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>>581437367
retail is going to soft reset in 2 years when TLT ends they just need something to hold retail players over til then is the actual truth
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>>581437389
>lil bro didn't listen to the interviews
Arcane elementals will be immune to counterspell, forever
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>>581437257
people still buy tetris with 0 changes.
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>>581437367
>Forever is disguised as classic but what it really is is blizz going “holy fuck we ruined the story can we please have a clean slate”
Nah, that implies they care about that.
This is them pivoting to an engine they can do a lot too, while ignoring 90% of the game.
That it also serves as a story reset button is a bonus, but let's be honest... this is modern blizz run by women, your "stories" are gonna be faggots and girlbosses.
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>>581437015
Plays like TBC, looks like retail (90% because of the UI)
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WHAT THE FUCK BLIZZARD I WANTED TO PLAY AS A GINGERBREAD MAN

FRESH OUT OF THE PAN, SWEET GINGERBREAD MAN!
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>>581437396
Im sure people are going to obsess over your characters looks as much as you do
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Can anyone else not see shamans, doesn't matter what race I pick or if it's HD or SD they're blank for me on the actual character creation screen, I can see them once I get in game but not on creation, every other class works fine
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I'm using retail models because all the new stuff will be retail models, from the mobs, to the zones, to the gear, and to the mounts. Feels weird to clash with low poly character models when you are fighting things that look like retail rejects.
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>>581437505
they deleted shamans because its a shit class for faggots
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>>581437367
the story past cata is basically retarded fanfiction
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how is it bros :D
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>>581437558
it's wow
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>>581437367
they can reset retail any time they want to, it's been done before by better games successfully.
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>every streamer has disabled the fog
lmao
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>>581437504
Uhm sweaty, im going to be the number #1 one most posted anime girl on /wowfg/ once launch hits and we have guilds. And I will do 0 of the posting myself, my orbiters will post about me.
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>>581436650
Taking it extremely slow still looking at all the new stuff. Can't wait to spam AVs and heal raids.
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>>581437630
but muh fog.....
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>>581437641
>number one one
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>>581437449
no changes was prolly the most retarded hill to die on
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if you hate wow retail dei so much why not just move to a franchise like warhammer that this company copied everything from?
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>>581437630
only looks good at night and in the nelf and undead starter areas feels out of place everywhere else
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>>581437356
I don't really see either side being unhappy with whats here. Top end players on retail? Sure. They'll probably bounce off of it. The majority of the dog shit players that can't even and wont even do heroic raiding? Naw. They'll stick. The rotations aren't even that much more complex these days for most classes. Classic players aren't going to bounce off either. Theres more spell power on gear, but base damage on spells is down as well looking at my class trainers, likely in prep for their "horizontal progression" and longevity.
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>>581437763
dude the killed Warhammer Fantasy like 10 years ago ....
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>Ally starting zones considerably more full than horde
>Can't create horde character as PvP because of population balance
>???
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>>581437505
we dont need more shamans play something else
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>>581437558
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0K2jw0AX8w

45 days until the best two months of the year begins :3
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>>581436860
They have level 30 raids?
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>>581437724
i've been pushing for classic+ since nostalrius got nuked
i'm happy that i'm finally getting it but i'm a little disappointed at how clearly low budget it is
it's obvious that some suit at blizzard legitimately can't fathom the idea that people would want to play anything other than FOMO-riddled live service slop
hopefully whoever that is will stay hands-off long enough for forever to prove it can bring in subscriptions

>>581437828
it got better, they even made bretonnians and tomb kings the new posterboy factions
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I work at blizzard and helped work on Wow Forever, what kind of sweet words would you like to say to me?
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>>581437763
warhammer doesn't have an mmo age of reckoning was a massive shit and died instantly, also the AoS multiverse lore is possible the dumbest least immersive shit I have ever seen, every writer involved with it should be publicly flogged
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>>581437763
the warhammer MMO was taken from us
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>>581437834
>zugger faggots went pvp servers
>majority of players just don't bother
>pvp server locked rather than re-create the live server experience of these shitty one sided "pvp" servers
Zuggers are prett fuckin dumb.
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>>581437897
Thank you for delivering such a great game, miss!
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>>581437883
There is literally nothing stopping 40 level 30s from raiding BRD
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>>581437906
the purpose of AOS lore isn't to be immersive but rather to be a sandbox where model designers can create literally anything and it fits
you're not supposed to care, you're just supposed to think it looks cool
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Any ally PVP guild that isnt going to get me banned, or has a trooncord?
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>>581437918
Played the shit out of WAR and its failure was sadly deserved. Horribly mismanaged game in so many ways.
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>>581437013
whats your build? here's what I came up with.
https://www.wowhead.com/forever/talent-calc/priest/v1525330031305001001-30505110202_t0
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>>581437990
>wheredoyouthinkyouare.png
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>>581437906
Age of reckoning has a private server free still gets new content added to this day

It’s been around years longer than the original game was lol
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fuck i'm kind of liking pally a little too much
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>>581437980
You could already do that with old world if you need the game to be a complete sandbox where nothing at all matters in any way shape of form in order to express any form of creativity you never had any to begin with
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>>581437906
>age of reckoning was a massive shit and died instantly
It wasn't and it didnt, EA pulled the plug more like because it wasn't making WoW Wrath sub numbers (nothing was except WoW). Just your typical clueless exec decision
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is Gunshot Kirk a good name for a hunter?
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Finished Tirisfal.
Not too much added but I liked the new flow, even if it's not perfect. Usually I do something like farms then gnolls/murlocs then mills then bulwark, now it was farms then gnolls then shadowvale then mills then bulwark then that ditch in front of UC with another trip back to shadowvale at some point. Normally I just want to gtfo out of here by 11 but now it can pleasantly get me to 13.5. Writing for new quests was fine, except for Bandarion Keep. The prose used makes it too obvious that this is a different writing team.
>what about the lich
An easy skip EVERY Tirisfal run. Too damn boring.
They need to lower the quest level for the cellar at Shadowvale so people regularly have all 4 quests around 9 or 10, also I feel crazy but there might be like three goddamn breadcrumb quests leading there and if so that is too much.
Can't really agree with the takes here about lethality. I think it's fine, overall but your kit is just better than 2004 so it's going to be "snappier", but you're not taking on 3 Dark Enforcers at level 12. On that note, new mobs definitely trend on the harder side of things but the discrepancy isn't too distracting.
Anyways - Silverpine or Barrens next? Preferably whichever is worse, because I want to do the best one on live.
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playing horde on pve
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>>581437918
Warcraft and StarCraft are legit ripoffs of Warhammer because games workshop wouldn’t let blizzard do a Warhammer game

This is the backstory of why wow was created, to be fair Warcraft is now its own thing but it was a Warhammer ripoff that was jsut different enough to avoid copyright
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the people larping about how easy it is aren't level 10+ yet
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>>581437906
I was there Anon, I Was there when the last servers shut down....
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>>581438098
Kirk is autofiltered as a surname lol
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>>581437897
What's with the hair, dude?
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>>581437951
Yeah there is, you can't enter BRD until level 42
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>>581428319
People wanted classic+, which is OSRS. Basically starting from classic and building upon it, not making it retail-lite from the go and basically NOT classic.
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>>581438029
anime website
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>>581438041
>You could already do that with old world
the grognards got mad when they tried
not saying this is a good thing btw just explaining why it is the way it is
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It's fun but holy shit do we need realms I can't stand 99% of the retarded niggers I get sharded with
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>>581438098
lol yes
I have a notepad full of names but I'm worried I'm going to get my account flat out banned with some of these
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>>581438035
yes I'm aware of return of reckoning even free and with updates it sits at under 200 players most days it's a dead game

>>581438068
You don't remember shit the game lost more than half it's playerbase in the first month and by the end of the first year they were giving out free sub time, the fact that they even kept the servers on for as long as they did with the lack of players is actually amazing it should have been shut down by the end of 2009 when they were having to merge servers because they were all so dead
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>>581436953
>>581437013
What's with the talents for absurdly high hit chance on holy spells anyway? Paladin has one too.
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>>581437936
Thank you long time, i very happy you rike my work
>>581438157
I am zesty, is that a problem?
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>>581438134
The original Warcraft was undeniably a ripoff but I don't think there's ever been any proof Blizzard tried to get the license. I think they just copied the coolest parts of Warhammer.
Starcraft has always been very different from 40k.
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>>581438103
silverpine undead is kino
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>>581438021
Went with this
https://talentsforever.com/priest/60/500230030305001-305551002020015--AEDHJLOSU2VWcaXfgU-3
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>>581438273
>You don't remember shit
Neither do you, it was more popular than all other le wow killer MMOs, which is why it still has a private server running to this day. And if garbage like RIFT, TERA and all the other shit can keep the lights on until today, so could that game. They just chose not to.
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>>581438150
Charlie Thiccneck, the paladin, it is then
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>>581438005
it was very "good" and not much else. it didn't have the sandbox feel of WoW. too many loading screens.
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>>581438287
Sometimes the devs like to give healers free spell hit cap without having to gear for hit.
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The fog looks good in game but it's fucking with bitrates on streams
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>>581438521
If companies weren't so jewish we could have 40+ megabit streams filled with beauty
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...
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>>581438323
>very different
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Really hope they do RP-PVP. Even on a clowny BETA people are getting into things.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXqtpw3YiI8
aion 2 mogs wow forever, sorry
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>>581438521
the fog is extremely nonsensical
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Are undead fun to level? Tirisfal has always been the best starter zone im guessing with the added lore from the wc3 campaign they’re even more fun?
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>>581438661
>nexon
lol
oh wait you're serious, let me laugh evenharder
roflmao
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>>581438661
Only Rift 2 or Flyff 2 can kill WoW Forever.
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>>581438661
thanks for reminding
gonna good to the character creation since I dont have a beta key
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>>581438661
brown man's wow
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>>581438607
40k wasn't the first thing with power armor my dude

it has absolutely nothing in common other than power armor existing
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>>581438661
>Guild Wars 2 combat with Lost Ark's business model
It's literally the worst MMO ever imagined and that's why it's already dead in Korea/Taiwan
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>>581438661
HOLY SEEEEEEEEX (why did it have to be in some korean slop)
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So how does touch of the grave function?
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>>581438765
>brown man's wow
Does he know?
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Thoughts?
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>Ascend down into the tavern, weary and well worn from my early adventures.
>Music swells, and my view expands to reveal this. High fantasy picture welcoming me to my future adventure.

It's peak
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>>581437225

Kek
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>>581438682
The good:
Interesting quests, varied locations, no terrible droprate quests, the storylines aren't one-note, no real bullshit amount of caves or weird z-axis areas.
The bad:
A lot of walking.
Brill isn't a very good early game questing hub.
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>>581438808
business model is actually very different than lost ark, it's a subscription based game for tryhards and for noobs it's simply f2p + you can buy skins
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Can I name my self Leeeeeeeroy Jenkins?
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>>581438839
used goods
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>>581438881
>optional sub that is required to use the auction house
>RNG on upgrading your character
>buy raid gear with real life money but not in game money

Yeah sounds great!
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how do i play the beta without buying a lazy recolor bloodelf skin pack?
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>>581438984
feed an even lazier australian
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>>581438839
>not pregnant
just name it Legal Loli
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>>581438661
>generic korean grind p2w mmo #547989
This is just embarrassing...
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>>581438661
after the disaster of blade and soul NEO i am done with that company

you really should avoid this game if you don't want to shat on by those fuckwads
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>>581438967
compared to older korean mmos this game is almost wow, you basically buy the sub to get more rewards from running dungeons + access to the market and that's it, you buy skimpy skins with the rest of your money
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>>581438661
>Korean p2w garbage with anime whitewashed models of bug people
NO thanks I like fantasy not bugmenslop
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>>581438843
Can't see anything, anti soul gas in the way
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>>581439178
yeah thats called the authentic 2004 draw distance and using your imagination friend
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>FPS FIX
FPS FIX
>FPS FIX
Graphics > Graphics card > YOUR GPU instead of auto-detect.
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>>581439039
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>>581438902
You can do anything you want, Anonie!

My dude, I woke in Azeroth, far from the town I used to choose,
With a rusty blade and linen wraps, still grinding level twos.
The very soil where Orcs and Dwarves learned how to split a noob,
Build a fire, pull a Murloc, watch the whole damn shoreline move.

I speak an ancient argot: “LFM, need tank, no n00b,”
The vibe is basically Thunder Bluff, with a Tauren in the mood.
They smell the raid mats in his blood, the flask beneath his boots,
And when Ragnaros starts to rise, he knows exactly what to do.

A hearthstone in his pocket, twenty quests he’ll never lose,
A wooly bag of herbs and greens, and vendor trash to move.
From Barrens chat to Blackrock Depths, the whole world feels brand new
Classic WoW, one more pull, one more wipe, one more queue.
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Will FPS improve at launch? I can play Classic, ESO, retail, GW2, SWTOR, and FFXIV at max graphics but here I'm getting ~50 at MID, 25 or so at ultra.
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>>581439075
the only good game koreans have ever made was lineage 2 right before wow existed and shat all over it.
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>anti-soul gas becomes a /v/ buzzword
>people use it everywhere
>start complaining about it in Forlo
>fog has been in the game since vanilla
>they just made it volumetric now
>this is a problem because ???
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>Retail lite
>Announcement said "Where classic players can go forever."
>Any complaints are met with
>Well go play classic lmao
Yeah I give this less than a year.
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>>581439274
It's time to upgrade...
Forever is next gen mmo.
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conan or gorilla ahahahah
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>>581439274
I don't know because at least for me the lag is only an issue in populated areas. Out in the general world I have 0 issues.
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>>581439274
the culprit is always shadows, reduce shadow quality and check fps
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>>581439232
>game somehow detects onboard graphics despite them being disabled with a dedicated GPU setup
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>>581439358
Reducing shadows to lowest of low gave me +2 FPS
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>>581439274
4070/7700, I can run fucking Darktide+raytracing on high but same, I can't fucking run this without serious dips.
Since when is World of Warcraft a fucking enxt gen benchmark
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>>581438816
Korean slop is exactly the reason why. Koreans are also responsible for the elves you jack it to in WoW as well.
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>>581439450
>Since when is World of Warcraft a fucking enxt gen benchmark
Unironically wotlk when people would regularly say "I can run Crysis but Dalaran chokes my computer???"
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Okay. which one of you is this?
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>>581439434
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after playing around with controller, I have to say this is REALLY well implemented
they've basically copied ffxiv which to me is the gold standard in controller hotbar gaming
a bit more freedom of customization like being able to move the UI or swapping around the basic actions like jump to Y and interact to A and it's basically launch ready
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can i make my last name jenkins
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>>581439346
the huge sunken eyelids are a tumblr specialty and why it doesn't look like warcraft.
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I'd love to know more about the honest development of Forlo
It seems kind of rushed and appears to be a fork of the War Within client?
Did they merge Classic code into a newer engine or something?
I'm really excited for the game but it feels like it's being made out of hopes and dreams after playing the beta, I'm surprised it's holding together.
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>>581438661

Can I make my character short and green but keep the massive milkers?
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>still haven’t seen a dwarf named “Man Let”
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>WoW Fogever
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>>581439629
>can turn it off
lmao
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>>581439346
sims 4 lookin mf
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>>581439606
yes, you can chose any color of skin you'd want
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>>581439602
>It seems kind of rushed and appears to be a fork of the War Within client?
Absolutely, you can tell via the professions tab and how spending talents results in this flashing animation that goes beyond the talent tree window.
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you're all bots until the beta opt in emails come in
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None of the reddit fixes help with FPS
>delete cache
does nothing
>restart computer
nada
>log out and log back in
same if not worse
>lower graphics
effects FPS to a minimal degree, it's not the main culprit
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>>581439629
You ever tun the fog off in GTA San Andreas?
You can see from one end of the map to the other
Fog makes the world feel huge
Pretty sure they're trying to take a page out of the Rockstar playbook
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https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/details/278453/

Update your drivers, fucking faggot retards
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>>581439859
i havent updated my drivers in over 1 and a half years...
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had 5 dcs on launch and decided to go to sleep
is it better now?
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>>581439859
>upgrade drivers to have compatibility with this 20 year old game

HUH?!
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>>581439919
retard
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This is my male human warrior
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>>581439629
>>581439651
>>581439818
you niggas eva turn the fog off in silent hill 2?
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>>581439919
how is there a beta for a 20 year old game?
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>>581437687
Just spoke to different people on General chat, apparently we are all on a mega server with NA and EU together. We can play together right now! Are you horde?
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>>581439919
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24301512/world-of-warcraft-forever-gpu-requirements

You wish it was 20 years old from 2004, reality is it needs updated drivers
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>>581439818
Original WoW used heavy fog to show dangerous areas.
Rockstar used it cause PS2 had shit hardware.
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so what race are we picking for warrior on alliance side and how has warrior been changed?
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>>581439859
oh fuck ranjesh made new drivers?
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>>581439958
I watched my cousin play SH2, naturally yes
It's amazing what a load of fog will do to an environment
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its half past 8 am on a friday work morning
and shit is FULL wtf
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>>581440041
gnome racials are broken op
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>>581440058
Mega servers rule, everyone being on a single server means there are always people around.
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>>581438774
StarCraft was originally a 40k game until the licensing deal fell through and they repurposed the assets. But modern 40k is based on StarCraft, too. Tyranids looked like this before the Zerg.
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>>581440096
Nah its actually worse, its asian gold farmers in the thousands, local chat is FULL of chinese letters
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>>581438041
>You could already do that with old world
No you couldn't lol. That's one of the main rasons they nuked that shit. Designers were mad at how many of their ideas didn't fit over the years.
Atlantis elf guy needed to wait nearly 20 years to make them
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>>581440058
No region for beta, so now you're in foreign shards. Gz
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>>581440136
this is what I always say, RMTing in wow is so huge the game is more p2w than the korean games, but people are dishonest so they won't ever admit it
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjmJCy1ksYY
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autism here, I'm rolling a wheel with all 92 raceclassgender combinations until there's one left and that's my main
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>>581440136
Blizz will start quietly layering them to their own sub section of the mega server.
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why do we not have a new thread?
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Since the game still has snapshotting is the new gnome racial not retarded OP?
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jesus did esfand overdose on glp1s
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>>581440315
cause we're only on page 9
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>>581421809
>Classic+ is WoW2
>its what people who wanted classic+ wanted
>Era/anni/pserfs big mad
>cash shop locked races are stinky
>overall great looking forward to full release
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>>581437849
sauce...
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>>581440413
>e]
close enough to ten
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cool
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>>581440264
They made millions from china buying a beta
>>581440309
Lol blizzard will do nothing about them we all know it
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>>581440413
WITH NO SURVIVORS
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>>581440315
why didn't you make one?
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>>581440315
Bake it up senpai

>>581440425
Rule 34 Assumi, it's in there somewhere
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>>581428596
>>581433654
>>581428973
>>581428737

I watched some of joker playing the beta and he looked so uninterested.
it definitely doesn't feel like it has the spark
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waaait wait you CANT toggle last name??
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>>581439660


Yea but I mean really short.
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>>581430603
This is not true. Theres a boat and inns.
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its 8 am
its laggy as fuck
you can not move AT ALL
the only thing working is the chat

how in the fuck is blizzard able to push out a beta THIS BAD
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>>581440367
some people are just meant to be fat
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>fsr 1.0
>no dlss 4.5
lmao
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>>581440548
nope. and the name is shared across rule sets like rp and pvp
seems like an unnecessary change
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>FSR 1
Say fucking sike right now big dog
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>>581440715
i wish
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>>581440745
>>581440715
meaning what, ai upscaling?
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>barrens look like tirisfal glades now

this is going to kill classic vibes harder than cataclysm
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>>581440745
>needing FSR for a classic wow variant
bro get a job and buy a pc from this decade.
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>>581440767
meaning ancient technology in a game with raytraced shadows
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yea its called beta not early access
report the bugs
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>>581440767
yeah all the original vanilla textures are upscaled
its like they have a sharpness filter on
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>>581440817
meaning?
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>>581440816
i wanted to try and inject RR but i cant and fsr 1 is old as fuck
>>581440836
>report the bugs
there's countless
most of which should work from the gate i.e. settingswise
but they dont at all
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>>581440784
well obviously they just need to add a fog modifier to each zone
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>>581440784
jesus christ
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>>581440715
>>581440745
This garbage has been broken for years since 10.2 and doesn't work, just google and see all the bug reports, it does nothing and nublizzard can't be bothered to fix it ever
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I don't want the chinese over here

I DON'T WANT THEM WHAT THE UCK
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>>581440784
What the hell it looks so humid
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>>581440939
>>581440939
>>581440939
>>581440939
>>581440939

new
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>>581440627
>just a preview
>just a beta
>just a launch
>just work in progress
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>>581440548
how would you be able to tell the difference between your friend steve from accounting and your enemy steve from corporate.
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>>581440715
dlss 4.5 support?
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>>581437189
For one, you should limit your foreground FPS.
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>>581441074
Bug report it
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>>581440767
No, AI was added in FSR4. This is just a simple spatial upscaling algorithm.
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Hit level 12
Will probably start a new class tomorrow
A lot of fun.
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>costs £8 to change your battlenet name now
wow



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