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Visual Novel General #7896

This general is for the discussion of English-translated Japanese visual novels.
All posting of untranslated visual novels belongs on >>>/jp/
E-celeb shitposting is not allowed.
Kindly use spoiler tags appropriately when discussing plot spoilers to facilitate smooth discussion.

>Having trouble with your VN? Try the following before you ask for tech support:
1. Be in Japanese locale
2. Read the Readme
3. Check https://rentry.org/4chan-vn-help
4. Copy error messages with CTRL+C and paste them with CTRL+V into DeepL
5. Google it

>FAQs, Recommendations, and Other Useful Things:
https://chartanon.github.io/moechart/
https://files.catbox.moe/j3dd0n.png
https://github.com/marisukukise/japReader

>Need a novel with a specific element?
https://vndb.org/g

>Download Links:
https://rentry.org/4chan-vn-links

Previous thread: >>581508215
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KINOmasa
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>>581551118
I look like this
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Finally, a good thread!!
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Would you join their band?
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I'm making a 2-man band with Kimika
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>Stranded on an ominous island, ten people try to unravel the mystery of the threads weaving their past and the death of the actress named An Ooe.
Lads, is this the Magical Boy Wizard Trials we've been waiting for?
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>>581551918
Nice try, Moeanon.
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>>581551642
What is is called?
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I think... I think I will have to get a part-time job soon
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>>581552492
Coquimfest is near
My stall could use some help
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>>581552585
You can count on me sis, maybe
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Thoughts on Astra for Law, moeanon?
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>>581551118
the voice of teenagers
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>>581551118
all around the world
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I miss Karenschizo
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>>581552837
>>581552856
MGWT mentioned.
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>>581553003
That normalfag has a wife and kids now.
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>>581553175
Based. He is happier than most of you fags here.
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we will be playing astrae oratio
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>>581553558
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I miss makinasis
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The future face of excellence.
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Why don't more artists draw areolar glands around nipples?

https://files.catbox.moe/llq2i6.png
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I miss kuonanon
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>>581553721
>>581553858
Sometimes posts in this general really confuse me
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I miss hata
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>>581554010
MHBST
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I don't miss totopo
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>>581553875
I fucking love Sei GODjo
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If only Kircheis were here...
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I miss chisatofag
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>>581554196
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Aquacuck can burn in hell
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AIsir owes me a rimjob
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FGOanon saved my dog
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I miss Blue Ema
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>>581554424
Here you go!
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I miss redmonkey
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Kastel castrated my dog
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>>581554521
Moogy is your dog?
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Zech-dono is the larper magician
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Code Geass of visual novels???
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zatamutt is a retarded mutt
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>>581554776
VNs will never be that kino.
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>>581554776
Rance
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Clephas is my onahole
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kageakijeet is a janitor btw
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Somebody give me a breakdown of the ToHeart2 girls.
Gonna play it but I doubt I will play all the routes.
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Subahibi killed conjueror
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I'm dicking my beat right now btw
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I love zoomer heroines
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Zoomerge?
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>>581555019
Post it
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>>581555052
Is GOAT a good localization for oshi?
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>>581555235
No.
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Who's the true hero of /vn/?
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>>581555235
[Yes].
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>>581555320
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>>581555235
Yes. Hiro agreed.
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>>581555320
<Joke>The Acacia Discord
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I miss Lessons in Love
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>maid
>blue hair
Rem!?
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>>581555320
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Lessons in HRT kek
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>>581555475
All the men at the homeless shelter will agree.
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>>581555612
Why is your mom at the homeless shelter?
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>>581555693
Karen isn't my mom.
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>>581555368
I hate retards who think translation's most important vector is how it hands tricky terminology that doesn't exist in English rather than how it reads on a line by line basis and how accurate it is. A literal 80 IQ retard with next to 0 translation ability or familiarity with Japanese may have been able to think up of that GOAT TL while ravaging the rest of the script.
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>>581555368
I will Astra Manosaba if the localization is too bad
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>>581555835
There's already a perfectly fine fan translation.
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>>581555320
nuff said
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We love sane, well-adjusted, Law-abiding protagonists with clear morals.
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>>581555909
I prefer insane mass-murdering protagonists actually.
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Just keep it as oshi. I mean your target audience would be familiar with that term. People really do miss the point of translation and treat it as an exercise in creativity.
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>>581555860
Le sigh
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>>581555368
why is this literal who speaking as if their take is relevant?
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>>581555909
They're calling this the gayest post in all of /vn/
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>>581555994
Why are you speaking?
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>>581555960
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>>581555320
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>>581556194
why are you?
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>>581555994
>his literal who
Nigga, that's literally Hiro from the vn.
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>>581556452
I've got a better question: How are you?
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My only regret in this life is that I'll never be able to experience Full Metal Daemon Muramasa for the first time again.
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I just caught up with Slime and MT. Literally no reason to continue reading subpar VNs. The community is dogshit, the VNs themselves are the epitome of mid. It's just pseudo-intellectual losers trying to justify their porn addiction.
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My only regret in this life is that I experienced MUMBAImasa even a single time
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>>581556743
>The community is dogshit,
This is 100% true. Are there actual good communities for discussing vns that aren't infected by troons?
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My only regret in this life is that I'll never be able to experience Acacia's portfolio for the first time.
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>>581556837
r/angelbeats
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>>581556676
Preachy trash
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>>581556743
Yes, VNs are largely bad, that's why everyone moves on after a few years of playing the small number of kamige this medium actually has.
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My regret is that my attention span is too far gone for me to spend more than 5 minutes reading a VN.
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>>581552770
I think I've fundamentally misunderstood something here because "is astrology a good legal tool" can't be a real question?
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MUMBAImasa
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>>581557251
Chat GPT-6 Astra
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>>581557251
https://openai.com/index/astra-for-law/
This
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>>581556892
>that's why everyone moves on
to EVNs
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>>581557291
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It's been quite some time
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>>581557391
True!
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>>581557584
If EVNs were good, I'd be playing them. But I haven't played them, so they must be bad.
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>>581557635
/vn/'s most intelligent philosopher
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Zoomer heroines.. I wonder if she has her own G.O.A.T.
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>>581551918
I can't wait, man. Day 1 buy.
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>>581557791
>replying to himself
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Alright I've finished the Schwarzesmarken translation for part 1. I fully manually proofread it making some adjustments along the way. All UI, menus, images etc. have been translated. All work was done with Astra on Extra High reasoning.

I used the version of the game from ages 20th archive box disc 13. You can find it here https://mega.nz/folder/fIhTUKSA#nTRrKtXDoekouDG03HJQIw, this is from the muv luv general on /m/. There is also a copy on sukebei if you search ages 20.

I've also included some of the fan translated light novels for the game in the folder. Two prequel novels, the novel that came as a special edition for the first game and two supplementary short story novels. Translator is credited in the readme.

When you're initially adjusting your sound settings sound effects might break, first check sound effects from the pull down menu on the window, if adjusting there doesn't turn them back on a simple exit and restart will fix it and you should have no issues from then on.

https://files.catbox.moe/ddz49g.zip
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>>581557865
I didn't make that post because I wouldn't insult Ooe by comparing it to Manosaba.
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>>581557909
Absolute based gigachad. Good work
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>>581557923
>spoiler
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>>581558026
Just a bit of banter mate. Just kidding I really believe that. No I don't, it's just a joke. I'm lying I actually do.
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>>581558107
I will make you pay one day!!
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Post white women
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>>581558107
>>581558026
>>581558151
No honor amongst thieves. As expected.
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>>581557097
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Women when they see my cock:
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>>581558185
I DON'T GET IT. Do you want me to hug you? Or the text is unrelated?
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>>581558296
They start speaking in japanese since nips have small cocks and they think you are one? Kek
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Boku no Hitori Sensou - My One-Man War
Continued from >>581513093
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I really like Tokyo Mew Mew. What vinnies should I read?
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>>581557909
11 years
at last, it's translated
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>>581558567
Only good post ITT I'm afraid
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KINO
I
N
O
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>>581558481
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>>581558602
I still gotta do part two but ya we can finally read it! I'll begin work on part two tomorrow.
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I'm going to do it, I'm going to read another moege.
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>>581557909
Based
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This VN is a serious plotge.
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>>581558185
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Ugly creature
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Where is oretsuba translation
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>>581558185
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"Very happy to announce that our Sayonara wo Oshiete translation patch is coming sometime next week"
https://x.com/sayooshiENG/status/2101143809450991931
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>>581558824
HOLY FUCKING KINO
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>>581558997
MAO is too busy beating his dick
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>>581559061
Bring an Astra tl if you want to pay a tribute
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>>581558651
This is one of several places where I would've loved a CG. At least a shrine is shown later.
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>>581559294
>Bwuh
Stolen from Touhou
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Is there a term for kino beyond kino? Like when a VN surpasses kino and becomes super kino 2?
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>>581559376
Kami
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Maybe this is the best VN ever made?
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>Naoya's suddenly voiced
Kamige.
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>>581559502
What's sis saying? I don't know japanese.
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>>581559595
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>>581559618
Throw it in Astra sis
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>>581557909
Oh and if anyone was around when I mentioned adding a toggle to change background image logo between English and Japanese on the main menu, I decided to remove it since I didn't wanna add a possible vector for instability for something so superfluous.
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>>581559646
>sis
That girl is a sis. I am a bro.
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>>581555971
How many times will you post this?
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>>581559340
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>>581559762
THis is the original Bwuh(it comes from a doujinshi), Nasu is a hack.
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>>581559749
I only posted it 2 times this month so probably a few more
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>>581559725
>I am a bro.
For now, sis
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>>581555971
>>581559847
Yet no one can answer >>581488663
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>>581560004
I don't get it
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>>581559939
For ever. I will never turn into a 3dpd woman.
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The VN took a while to get going but holy fuck V is one of the best routes I've read in my fucking life, what a masterpiece.
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>>581559840
Interesting. It could be the translator's fault, but I hope it's Nasu's doing
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>>581560130
>yeah bro reading vns is a straight man hobby you will never troon ou-ACK
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>>581560148
Stop monologuing and start dialoging. Art is a message that can be shared between people so start actually talking with us.
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>>581555971
Maybe learning Japanese is the way
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>>581560376
>sovl vs sovlless
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So every student other than Nei didn't matter at all and they all basically vanished once the routes started.
>>581560374
OK, how do you feel about oppai?
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>>581560524
I haven't touched any irl unfortunately but I like them, especially if they are lactating.
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>>581560652
You're an incel?
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Rin becoming a teacher doesn't make sense to me. It works for Naoya as him being a burnout failure and following after his dad, but I don't get why Rin would have any interest in it.
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>>581560809
Yes
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>>581560885
Tohsaka?
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>>581560885
Retard
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>>581560945
Kek, this was my first thought. If it's Rin then it must be Toesucker
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This hit me like a fucking gunshot this was the last place I was expecting to see it referenced.
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>>581561035
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Subahibi.
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>>581561052
Are you a paid shill? They hired a mentally disabled person to blogpost about it so everyone else would feel good about themselves?
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>>581561174
Is no Sakutoki.
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Great ending. Very cute.
I'd still like Oto for a Kana route and to give the characters that got shafted hard in screentime a bit more, though.
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>>581561510
Akashi is so cool...
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>>581561606
Genuinely the coolest guy and best bro.
He got maybe 30 lines and 3 appearances total in Toki, but he made each and every one count.
Sca-ji probably forgot about his sexy nun imoutos but that's okay.
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I asked 2 people what their favorite vns are and both of them said Subahibi. In conclusion Subahibi is the best vn.
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>>581561750
How do I know those two people weren't actually the same person with multiple personality disorder / ghosts
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>>581560376
Kill yourself Karenschizo
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>>581560930
Why tho
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Dear Diary,
I just woke up and it's pretty warm outside. I might ride my bike today but first I'll open the /vn/ thread. As usual the thread is pretty dead at this hour but there is some blogposting for a japanese vn(man I really need to start learning japanese but I am such a lazy bear).

!DON'T FORGET!
I have to answer that mail sooner or later but I'll do it today. No more postponing!
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>>581561983
answer the mail right now you stupid cuck
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>>581561979
I am ugly and I don't know how to talk with girls
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>>581551118
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>>581562115
>humanSLOP and not astraKINO
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>>581562115
Can't they just release the patch or say when they're going to release the patch instead of trying to promote their discord
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Holy fuck. I just realized that I can translate all the Chinese xianxia and Japanese novels I want with Astra. That shit ain't gonna needlessly waste my tokens either
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>>581562169
Yeah even for a JOP like me the really big thing is that now Chinese webnovels won't read like utter garbage.
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>>581562189
Yes they will, they'll just be utter garbage you can read.
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I HATE language. Why can't we just not talk at all?
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>>581562323
I never talk. I haven't even made a single post in this thread.
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If Japan is America's vasal why can't americans just demand a Muramasa 2?
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>>581562323
Soon we'll have all the entertainment injected straight to our brains while sleeping so we can work longer hours
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what do I read now that I finished sakutoki
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>>581562169
Holy fuck. I just realized I can take a diarrhea shit on the toilet. That shit ain't gonna needlessly waste on the street anymore
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>>581562707
>t. spams mumbaimasa uminegro all day long
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>>581562625
Start reading the [incomplete history] of this general. Start here https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/subject/%20%2Fvn%2F/order/asc/
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Does sakutoki have philosophical sex?
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>>581562913
>philosophical sex
What
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>philosophical sex
This sounds cringe af and yall know it.
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Zoomer plotge, does it exist?
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>>581563289
manosaba
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>>581563289
Mumbaimasa
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cute
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>>581563289
The Streamers' Alt Account Labyrinth
https://store.steampowered.com/app/4078190/
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>>581563289
Ignore the other responses. Z.A.T.O., game made by a cute zoomer girl for other zoomer friends.
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>>581563487
>>581563878
>>581564065
Maybe if you are a dumb tranny
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>>581564158
so a zoomer
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>>581564158
Ok champ. Let's think about what you've said.
>dumb
Ableism
>tranny
Transphobic bullshit
Did you really think your post would be up to the standards we have here on /vn/?
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>>581562080
So you accepted your lot in life and decided to die a virgin?
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>Kastel melty
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>>581548194
>>581549828
i'll do a QC audit day 1 and expose those hacks
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>>581564618
HFK.
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>>581564560
No? That would make me a volcel, I will still try to have sex.
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>>581557909
based, we will be read next year
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>>581564618
You could have used all this time and effort to cure cancer or to help Scaji make a child so this medium doesn't die yet you are wasting it on shit like this?
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>>581564360
I am 24 and I am not trans thoughever
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>>581564892
if you read my guide you'd know that it literally takes ~1 hour to QC and audit a script of that size
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>>581564618
Fix his "translation" if it's bad
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>>581565015
And?????? You could have used that hour for the tasks I've mentioned + you've wasted even more time for this shit and the wiki. What will you have in 100 years? Think flood, think!
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>>581565087
>You could have used that hour for the tasks I've mentioned
i can make babies with sca_ji while codex is doing qc, it's not like i have to babysit it.
>What will you have in 100 years?
hopefully my own o'neill cylinder
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>>581565087
MTLwiki is pretty important, retard
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>>581562115
>Translating a VN that already has a translation
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>>581565174
>i can make babies with sca_ji while codex is doing qc
Ok, don't disappoint.
> my own o'neill cylinder
What kind of environment would you have in it?
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>>581565309
>What kind of environment would you have in it?
urban/fantasy and something else. i will populate it with every single waifu from all the fiction ever created. i already did the math, the should fit in comfortably
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>>581564158
self doxx?
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Do you ever use AI to generate anime girl designs you fantasize being?
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Is Da Cappo worth playing through? I vaguely remember watching the anime when it came out.
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Is Shit and Piss worth reading through?
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>>581565860
check it's vndb average and then check all the 5660 vns with a higher score. if there's nothing that's interests you then yes, it's worth reading
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I am flooding this thread... with no survivors
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Thoughts on pet play?
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>>581565860
>Is (Japanese VN) worth playing through?
Use your fucking brain.
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>>581565914
>ruby text
>wild letter dispositions
This unironically kills the JOP and the mtler lol.
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>>581566580
IS she really a doggie? Does she piss like one?
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>>581566591
Downloading it right now.
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>>581566591
Ok so according to you all the jap novels with this tag https://vndb.org/g2386 are worth playing right?
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>>581566580
based
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>>581566705
Yes she would piss on your leg to mark it, surely you would let her right?
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>>581566983
Yes, I would do it for cute girls. There are men that drink piss.
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>>581566580
>>581566607
ema should pee in my mouth
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We're one more day closer to Manomura
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Muramasafags are so worthless. Meanwhile an Uminekochad has just won a marathon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtDKPRq1XnM
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>>581558997
Soon
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>>581567398
Give us a date so that we can pressure you
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>>581567235
Cute feet. I wish I were Ema here.
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>>581567205
Don't just drink all her pee, I want some as well...
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>>581567589
>>581567205
Get in line niggas
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I am going to touch myself down there. Is that ok with you guys?
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I want my idol Hiro's MV, acacia!
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>>581566607
that's just furigana... i guess they know that their target audience are kids lmfao
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>>581567240
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if the "TL accuracy scale" could be formalized, it would become possible to rate all translations with an objective percentage metric and sort by them!
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>>581567742
Call me Johnny and fuck my ass, you said something very smart, floodboy
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>>581567686
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>>581567817
AB-chan.. stop being so lewd in public
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>>581567817
johnny...
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Question for Manosaba posters: do you want to be friends with me?
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>>581567674
You still don't know what it says, EOPlet.
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>>581566580
I feel like I've seen a lot of recent pics of Ema being leashed like a dog. Just a random trend?
>>581568046
Depends. Who are you?
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>>581568156
>Who are you?
Just a guy.
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>>581568156
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>>581568118
i'm a JEP....
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>>581568156
It's both cute and hot at the same time, I like it
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>>581568156
she is very dog like
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Will we meet flood's mom and dad in the next /vn/ arc?
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>>581568046
Do I count as a Manosaba poster if I sometimes post images but have never touched the game?
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>>581568367
The real Witch Hiro...
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>>581568220
these aiKINOs are the only good thing that came out from kusosaba
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>>581568319
WTF???? GIRLS CAN'T LOVE GIRLS!
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>>581568046
F-Friends with benefits?
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Moeges be like
>SoL for 20hrs > some hscenes > more bs SoL
Like someone would pick up moege for gf simulator and not for falling asleep to some slice of life bullshit? those mongs never write heroines showing affection, flirting or whatever else outside forced hscenes. If there are any cases that disapprove this feel free to list it i guess.
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>>581567742
Assuming that the "TL accuracy scale" is rooted in my comments on the past, I was first introduced to it in my time taking translation tests for localization companies to get hired. In those contexts, it's as simple as each line (not paragraph) being separated and translated individually, then a senior translator checking over each individual line's translation for a comprehension error (or a violation of the given translation guidelines, for example if the guidelines states that numbers below ten have to be written out fully, then writing "9" in your translation instead of "nine" would be an error).

There is kind of fundamental subjectivity in what a "comprehension error" constitutes, and there are no universal translation guidelines, but I think it is not hard to come up with a reasonable enough approximation. I think 95% of people familiar with the language will know a comprehension error when they see it if it's explained, usually only psychos will see a comprehension error and started arguing about how it actually is accurate somehow. People can fuck with language but generally it is pretty objective when there is a mistake; we can just look at public language rules and see if the rules were violated.

Anyway, so at least professionally, an objective TL accuracy scale would be a line-by-line analysis with a binary mark whether the line has an error or not. (The severity of the inaccuracy matters in TL tests in terms of passing or failing, but they all contribute to the same accuracy rate.) To get into the first publisher I worked with you needed 97% accuracy, which basically meant in the 100 line test they gave you couldn't make more than 3 mistakes. Pretty simple. If you wanted to be more sophisticated you could reuse your 1-5 scale you used with Kurai Heya and make it so 2.5 points are needed to count as 1 line of inaccuracy, so a 5-point inaccurate line is like 2 inaccurate lines while a 1-point inaccurate line doesn't even count as whole one.
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>>581568542
Sure they can, and they should
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>>581568747
No, just normal friends. I mean if you were a girl I would have sex with you but you are most likely a guy.
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>>581568795
Okay
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>>581568906
Malding Detroon
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True love is witch-on-witch violence
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Is it gay for a man to deepthroat a futa?
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Prefect visual novel would have:
>the best writer: Sca-ji
>the best dialogue writer: Selebus
>the best artist: Sei Shoujo
Thoughts? Would you read that?
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>>581569202
If it has Sei Shoujo art then I'd certainly try it.
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>>581568795
yeah, i mean something like that one but formalized properly by somebody with "expert knowledge" of the field, and also a way to weigh them in order to calculate the final rating (like from 1 to 100 based on the ratio of the whole script). also there's the problem of lines being made by a lot of sentences and 1 error invalidating the whole thing, so maybe it should be per sentence? or simply based on the amount of rewritten words, weighted based on the error? also this whole thing should be normalized with the total number of words? that's a lot to think about, but if done correctly once then you could basically run any new TL through ai QC and know on day 1 how accurate it is

also yeah, i personally don't care about appeals to experts, if a more sound scale can be done by schizos on /vn/ then i'm all in for it
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>>581569202
The worst visual novel would have:
>the worst writer: Sei Shoujo
>the worst dialogue writer: Sca-ji
>the worst artist: Selebus
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>>581569296
Sei Shoujo is a great writer though.
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>>581569202
forgot "translated by moogy"
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>>581569191
Perfectly normal
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>>581569202
>>581569296
Both of these would be irredeemable dogshit
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>download ge with a cute heroine that is about fetishes
>sweat, farting, pissing, feet licking, hairy armpit and anus licking
Huh, I don't know what I expected.
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and so... the gay furry arc has finally reached its conclusion....
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>>581569448
Title?
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>>581569391
Oh yeah? Provide a better team
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>>581569448
>kino, kino, kino, kino, kino and kino
Enjoy your kamige anon
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>>581569202
>Prefect visual novel would have:
>plot planning: Maeda Jun
>text writing: Maruto
>art: COQ
>music: dai/zts/etc, 07th expansion bgm guys basically
>Translation:: Irru&Trip
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>>581569484
https://vndb.org/v67897
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>>581569470
The shame of your deeds will echo(get it?) in your mind for a long time.
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>>581569552
Thanks.
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>>581569534
>plot planning: Maeda Jun
Lmfao
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Wish Nia and Mei would get art like Ema and Hiro but In Falsus is too niche...
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>wifey cut down his allowance
>still goes out eating and partying with her friends
Do Jap businessmen really..?
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>>581569272
A theoretical super-intelligence would probably try to weight things on a word-by-word level somehow, but for human concerns I think judging line-by-line (splitting paragraphs into individual lines for this evaluation) is good enough for humans. It may be that only 1 subclause in a sentence is wrong, so a super-intelligence may want to specify that, but for human purposes I think like taking works as "50,000 lines" and marking that line as "1 line wrong out of 50,000" is more than good enough. I don't propose that as a final solution though, just what I would do based on my personal experience.

For example, in my Aiyoku no Eustia analysis I found like 40+ errors in 500 lines, I conceive of it as such even though some errors were WAY worse than others, and simplify that to the 8%-whatever error rate. And if I were to talk about the accuracy of the TL to others I'd simply say you should expect 8 lines out of every 100 to be wrong in some way. Just off the cuff I feel like it would be getting beyond what is understandable humans to start to stay stuff like "it has a 95 translation score out of 100 with 5 points taken away for heavily weighted errors but not many points taken for low-rated errors." It probably would not intuitively mean anything and therefore would only be used for superficial flame wars, probably.
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>>581569272
Is a wrong use of a plural a minor mistake or an ESLism?
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>In Troonsus
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>>581569648
i think it's a minor mistake but only if the surrounding context actually supports that
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>>581569634
gm co-conspirator
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>>581569552
I'm glad to see jirai kei appear in VNs. I love them.
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>>581569646
just to be clear: for "lines" you mean sentences? because nvl games have the whole screen count as a "line"

and i still think that weighting error is important, translator making shit up or censoring stuff is unforgivable...
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>>581569767
Those are LITERAL vaginas
What the hell
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>>581569767
Has this artist ever seen armpits before in his life what the fuck
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>>581569767
The JOP kamige in question:
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>>581569767
this looks so fucking stupid
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>>581569808
>>581569819
Wait until you see this.
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>>581570046
...................
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>>581570046
Is this even allowed on a blue board
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>>581569790
Yeah, I guess that may not be as clear to random people online as I think. Publishers generally use a program to split paragraphs into individual lines with a few markers used to do this, like 。marking the end of a line and forcing a newline even if it's part of a paragraph or even dialogue. For example:

>「Blah blah blah 。Blah blah」
would be forced into two lines
>「Blah blah blah 。
>Blah blah」

And then these "lines" are judged individually. So if one translates "Blah blah blah" right but "Blah blah" wrong, that's 1 line correct 1 line wrong, rather than 0 right 1 wrong because it's part of the same quotation.

This may all be more complicated than I imagine but it's just what I've been working with for like 10 years. Basically the idea is to get the language into as small discrete segments as possible that are comprehensible as segments (aka individual sentences, basically) and then judge it with as much granularity as possible.
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>>581570046
I unironically fapped to this very doujinshi. Even her ass is hairy.
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>>581569819
Have you?
https://files.catbox.moe/hwaoaf.jpg
I don't want to get banned
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>>581570180
kill yourself
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>>581570164
>Even her ass is hairy.
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>>581570102
Why wouldn't it be? Armpits are natural.
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More Emahiro petplay for some eye bleach...
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>>581570391
Which one of them would have sexy hairy armpits
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Yes, trust the shady producer. :^)

>>581569759
gm
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>>581570180
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Did armpit chads win?
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>>581570137
ok, i applied this "accuracy-per-sentence" to the kurai heya qc (based on english sentences tho). the results are pic related, but in the final formula it normalize by the worst case in which the whole TL is actually made up/removed, so the
>Raw sentence accuracy
is 88.42%, but
>Severity-weighted accuracy
is 94.31%

is it too generous or does it make sense? like 95% score for that tl?
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>>581570606
Shut up we are talking about disgusting armpits now
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>>581570813
>disgusting
You are low t
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>>581570541
Zako...
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Which heroine would you choose?
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>>581569808
Literally every part of a woman is a vagina, that's why we have terms like footussy, armpussy or mouthussy.
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>>581570606
Personally I would say it makes sense for that TL given it was done by a highly experience professional who worked in technical translation for over a decade, and is just skilled in general. (although I think it may be odd to say ESL-English is an "accuracy" concern rather than an editing concern).

What I was starting to envision is that you have a "Severity Score" attached to the percentage, which is just the average of the error tiers. So rather than having a "Severity-weighted accuracy" focusing on just 3-5 (though that is a good thing to have), it would be more like "This is an 88.42% accurate TL with a severity score of 2.46" since most of the errors are severity are around 2~3. Severity score of 1~2 is great, 2-3~ is good, 3~4 is bad, and 4~5 is fucking awful. The math there is just like multiplying the number of each error tiers with the sentences effected then dividing by the sentences affected. (so a tier 2, tier 2, and tier 3 error would be 7 / 3 = 2.33 severity score).

That seems pretty intuitive to me. The closer to 5 the severity score is the worse it is. And 5 naturally pushes the average up more since 5 is five times as big as 1 so a bunch of tier 5 errors will push the average up fast. The only problems is you can't focus on tiers 3-5 with such a score because then 3 will be the smallest number. Might be a clever way around that. Maybe just in general you can give 4-5 way more "weight", like count each one twice to boost the number of more.
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Why do we just have two ai bots "talking" to each other?
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>Just saw Elon Musk in person
Vns for this feel?
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What happened with the Mai Hime guy?
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>>581571302
Because uminegro and fateslop shitposters chased off normal posters.
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>>581571072
>anon became a JOP just for Sei Shoujo
I kneel..
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>>581571367
Was he high?
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>>581571439
If there's one VN creator it's worth learning a foreign language for, it's him.
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this is just a meme right, nobody actually unironically likes that scat artist with the weird artstyle, right?
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https://vndb.org/w18410

it's up

M U M B A I masa
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My world is crumbling...
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>>581571963
where do you think you are? we have unironic cucks here
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>>581571380
Which one? We all finished watching the show (and Mai-Otome too).
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>>581572031
didn't read
>Was this review helpful? yes / no
no
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>>581571963
Sei Shoujo draws the most attractive anime girls.
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>Vns for this feel?
Vns for this feel?
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>>581571167
it's calculated from the existing data so it's easy to add, but i'm not sure this if this helps more or less. like if talking about kurai heya, what says more at a glance: 95% score for TL perfection, or 2.5/5 error severity ratio? i think it gives the wrong impression on the tl if used alone at least

>>581572139
>didn't read
/vn/ do be like that
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>>Vns for this feel?
>Vns for this feel?
Vns for this feel?
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Is this how a teacher should chat with her student..?
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>>581572307
Oh yeah, the point is to go in tandem. Like "This has a 11% inaccuracy rate, with the inaccuracies overall having a 2.5/5 severity level." I think in order to weight of inaccuracies you have to have two figures.

If a work has 10% inaccurate with a 4.2/5 severity ranking, you know shit is really bad.
If a work has 10% inaccurate with a 2.3/5 severity ranking, you know it's not so bad.

This way, a work with tons of fanfiction will be marked as severely bad, and a work with no fanfiction will be marked as not that severe.

But your original idea of just calculating the % based only on tiers 3-5 may be cleaner. "95% accurate, but the 5% is pretty bad" is clear too.
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>>581572109
>Which one?
The one that started posting it.
>We all finished watching the show
/vn/ had a watchalong without me?
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>>581572629
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>>581573452
Where are the pubes?
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>>581573452
All of Rokuhara had her
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>>581573490
Is everyone in this vn unhinged?
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Lessons in Hate
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>>581573708
>me when someone insults Fate Stay KINO
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>>581573708
This is one of the most AGP inducing images ever
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>>581573708
This is how I imagine Chocolasis looks like
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Zamn... why would she do this if she has a boyfriend?
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>>581573829
That's what makes it kino.
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>>581572917
>If a work has 10% inaccurate with a 4.2/5 severity ranking, you know shit is really bad.
>If a work has 10% inaccurate with a 2.3/5 severity ranking, you know it's not so bad.
yeah but weighting them and normalizing by total*5 does the compound score of exactly that, though i guess showing the 2 uncompounded value gives more info, sure

anyway, it's done. we WILL be QCing new fan TLs (occasionally)
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>>581573094
Red Ema...
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>>581573829
Mostly, yeah.
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Still not reading LiL. I am sorry.
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>>581573708
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>>581574660
>I don't want to experience kino
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>>581574660
>I hate visual novels
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Post an anime and get a vn recommendation. I'll start.
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>>581574786
>>581574759
I am only into jvn kino
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>>581574759
>to experience kino
But he didn't say anything about Subahibi?
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>>581574434
Very kino, but please be less sloppy with titling, "TL leaderboard" in lowercase as the name of the page is very unprofessional
Also I think the use of abbreviations is kind of excessive on average, Translation Leaderboard would do just fine...
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>>581574806
Umineko.
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>>581574687
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>>581574759
>>581574786
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Selebus needs to add a trans heroine.
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>>581575319
Battler...
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>>581575086
I don't get it.
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>>581574806
What anime???
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>>581574980
>>581575356
Why is my g.o.a.t catching strays again?
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>>581575398
Stolen from Rance
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>>581575431
The lilbro transitioned and then (s)he finally got accepted here.
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/vn/ has now made their main critique of LiL be... *checks notes* the lack of trans representation. Yep, sounds about right for this place
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>>581574759
>In development
I shan't
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>>581575526
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>>581575891
>wanting the medium to be more inclusive is le bad
That's why evns will never be high art
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>>581576056
From shilling Rance to shilling Hazbin Hotel..
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>>581575602
Did the LiLbro transition or was it /vn/ that transitioned?
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>>581575319
kageaki...
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>>581574570
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Should I come out of the closet?
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is tsukihime still babby's first vn
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HUMANBROS, NOT LIKE THIS!!!

gonna do the manosaba ""human"" TL next kek. and aisir's totsuraba too
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>>581576448
Too long for babbys, that title belongs to saya no uta
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>>581576656
>gonna do the manosaba ""human"" TL next
Kek are you still salty over that
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>>581576656
Translate the original and post the scientist quote
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>>581576656
>ai grades itself to be good
Genuinely who do you think you are fooling here?
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>>581576448
>babby's first vn
It's subahibi now, steins gate and umineko are boomer shit
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>>581576805
It's a better ai model than the tl one, in a completely isolated environment

Basically, you are a dumb ludditor, geg
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KWAB
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>>581576805
Although that is a very sensible observation to make, it is surface level. If you present any human translation to it, it will be able to consistently and with high accuracy be able to identify problems. This proves it's good at finding problems. That it finds less problems with SOTA LLM translations does not mean "obviously it is blind to LLM problems." Because if it made a problem akin to a human translator error it would spot it. LLM models just genuinely translate with higher fidelity and the scores reflect that.

When future models come out (GPT-7, GPT-8, whatever), it may be they will have harsher scores for current MTL due to being able to notice more subtle errors, but that in turn will lead humans to get even worse scores, too.
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>>581576832
umineko attracts this weird following of zoomer transgenders who don’t read other VNs
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>>581577029
Also the audit file is linked, so there's nothing to cope about. And even if I used a better model for QC it would find more errors, so humans arent looking good either way, kek
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>>581577032
IF this was an eroge those bitchies would get raped by one of the villains.
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>>581576832
>>581576448
muramasa has been zoomer's first vn as of late with a huge cult following of young trans people and xitter users who reiterate the babyjop vs mtler fights of /jp/.
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>>581577265
you are from coquimbo.
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Caroline...
hot take: Caroline and Justine >>> Lavenza

>>581577204
All of the heroines would have rape scenes if this was an eroge.
That's what defines eroge.
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My first vn was LiL
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>>581577118
>>581577161
>the subject should also be the reviewer
>in a field that is subjective as there is no such thing as an objectively good translation
Your "scores" are literally meaningless. You are literally wasting your time just to make shitpost fuel for a taiwanese basket weaving forum.
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kek
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>>581577424
>there is no such thing as an objectively good translation
You are low IQ. Also afraid.
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>>581577498
If your IQ is so high then why do you need an AI to do everything for you?
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Yes...
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>>581577485
Caroline needs to get loli-punished
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I will rape these two so hard one day...

>>581577637
IDBLT
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>>581577560
Because why would I waste 100x of my personal time on doing that same thing instead of reading kamige?
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>>581577560
I'm saving my energy for things that matter.
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>>581577424
1) The reviewer is different (different models in different context environments and modes)
2) Consider this
Japanese: お前ってやつは... どこまで行っても救われねえのな
English Translation: pee poo poo pee pee pee poo pee poo pee poo
Is this a good or a bad translation? If it's so subjective you have to say it's a perfectly fine translation, right? Or maybe it's a little objective and this TL sucks.
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>>581577709
Dominatrix lolis...
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>>581577806
>consider i'm a retard and start shitting myself
We already knew you do that
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if you hate AI so much then why you don't sell your PC and go back to stone age
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Floodbro, this is literally you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmWMCD960Z8
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Finally, I have become worthy of posting in /vn/.
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>>581577893
>ad hominem
>no argument
Another mindbroken ludditor, love to see it KEK
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lilsisters... i betrayed you all and downloaded the automod
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>>581577987
Ah yes because
>English Translation: pee poo poo pee pee pee poo pee poo pee poo
is such a smart argument, no wonder you need AI to do everything for you when you have no brain to analyze anything yourself
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>>581578073
It's an ad absurdum indicating one of the worst possible translations; seeing it you will be forced to admit that there is such a thing as a bad translation, which means there are good translations too. Otherwise you will be forced to acknowledge being a retard so high on subjectivity that you refuse to even call pee poo poo a bad translation.
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>>581578073
See >>581577987
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Floodtroon is flooding again
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Holy mindbroken uppercaser GOOOOOOOOG
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>>581578151
>uh everything is black and white it's either objectively good or objectively bad because my AI told me that
like I said, you are genuinely retarded. There are both objective and subjective parts to a translation which if you had any brain cells you would realize because you can't perfectly translate a language like japanese to english in the first place.
Yet instead of learning that you are more interested in asking AI what kind of diarrhea you can shit out of your ass into this general for today.
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I can unironically fix flood cutie.
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>>581578438
Abchan...
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>>581578426
>it's crying and shaking
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>>581578420
You’re such a parasite you know that right? Everyday you come here and flood it up when nobody wants you here. You absolute maggot of a thing.
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>dr pepper
i'm hacking to the gate right now
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>>581578057
I don't think it's an ideal way to play the game but if you find the normal gameplay intolerable or something then it's definitely preferable to not reading it.
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>>581578714
0 self awareness award, sasuga hooktranny
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>>581578426
You said
>there is no such thing as an objectively good translation
Now you said
>There are both objective and subjective parts to a translation
Which looks like a concession to me. I accept even if you are too buttmad to acknowledge you had your mind (and life) changed by me.
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>>581578938
If there is subjective measures to it then it can't be purely objective, which is literally what objective means. Sorry but if you can't even understand the english language then there is no reason why I should trust why you should be rating translations either.
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>>581578881
Flood-dekinai, you will never learn Japanese. Stick to MTLjeeting.
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>>581579084
in case it wasn't clear, the "MTLwiki Score" only measures the objective part...
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>>581579084
Note there were no words of "purely" there. If a translation has an objective part, and that part is good, then it follows to call it objectively good. Are you following along or do you need further explanation?
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>>581579173
>>581579206
So you both agree it's completely useless and just for providing shitpost fuel, got it.
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>>581579131
still waiting for your vocaroo btw. i think it's been a year already?
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kek
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It's tough being popular.
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>>581579278
it's useless if you don't care about what you are reading, as long as it's human written, yes. but it's pretty useful to see how many translation mistakes those translations make, it's not hard to understand lil bro...
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kek
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>>581579648
If you cared about what you are reading you would be reading the actual original language and not the slop shat out by an AI
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Why does Brokechi get bolder reply options than some of the girls?
These two have mad chemistry.
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>>581578825
i don't think the gameplay is bad but i will in most cases prefer a linear experience instead of a sandbox so why not if a mod for it is available, if it feels odd i'll switch back
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>>581579882
That's fair enough anon, I hope the experience is improved and you enjoy it
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>>581579786
i read in japanese on re-reads or when reading sloppa. sadly my english is still better than my japanese, unlike yours, jop-dono...

also the ai "slop" has less errors that human "slop" so i'll take it
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>>581579912
thank you, it's a fun game and i assume it will only get better
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>>581579925
see >>581576805
You are free to read through the entire discussion in an endless loop since you are just repeating "arguments" now
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bro...
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>>581576656
Can you do hello lady.
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you have your own general troons
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>>581580089
Akechi is such a faggot.
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>>581580154
>AIEEEEEEEEEEE STOP POSTING VISUAL NOVELS IN THE VISUAL NOVEL GENERAL, YOU'RE INTERRUPTING THE PERSONA 5 POSTER!!!!
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We will be awaiting the audit.
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>>581580089
this is gayer than ooe
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>>581580275
>Bai-bai
????
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>>581580065
it's funny because you were deboonked in the reply to that post yet you ignore it and pretend to have won

here, let me say it again:
>it's a different model
>it's an isolate enviroment
>you can check the audit yourself

waiting for your next ad hominem...
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>>581580439
You sure love using terms you don't even understand while being completely dumbfounded by basic english words like objective.
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>>581579882
I'd encourage you to turn it off occasionally and do all the repeatable sandbox events at the least.
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>>581580126
no, but you can. i'll write a guide on the wiki, it's very easy and fast.

>>581580540
woah, you just completely ignored the part where i completely obliterated your cope about ai grading it self! who would have though!
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Spending my Sunday fishing for kageakifish with my bro Okabe and our slutty maido teacher.
Life is good.

>>581580262
>>581580398
It's a chuuni bromance, you wouldn't get it foid.
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>>581580614
Closing your ears and screaming that you won doesn't change the fact that you don't even read my posts.
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>>581580670
why are you talking about yourself in 3rd person?
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>>581580275
I've already seen her panties like 5 times. Stop fucking posting that.
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>calling Kawakami "master" makes her blush
Cute... I wonder what the jp line says. "Sama"?
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>>581580669
When is the part when Aoko goes on a boat trip
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why is this literally who seething so much about AIkino and floodGOD?
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>>581580614
Flood-kun, will you please do >>581576779
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>>581580934
it's zech-dono, just ignore xim
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>>581581024
Qrd?
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>>581581024
Literally rent free
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>tfw reading plotKINO
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Hi, I'm Zach, 20, from Australia, struggling JOP (i've been learning this fucking language since I was 13 i'm still shit at it), etc. I especially love the work of SCA-DI and Ikuhara Kunihiko. I'm very fond of short-films, lost media, old ova's, historical/iconic otaku culture & whatnot. All that being said, they aren't very accessible, so recommendations are always rly welcomed and appreciated.

Also, Sakuuta really struck a chord with me because it elicited a more unique poignancy akin to heartbreak. Five years after reading it, SCAji managed to win me over again with that same feeling in Toki. No other story of any type has better captured that grief. And with the roll of the credit art's visual storytelling, a sort of visceral, melancholic acceptance of all that was said and done finally bubbled up to accompany it. サクラノ is, really, a story with the purpose of breaking the heart and putting it back together, which is bound to leave some stiches and scars that won't fade, but will heal.
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>It's another average day in the classroom.
yeah idk there is literally a chicken on the desk for some reason??
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>>581581024
Is he from the fabled zoomercord
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>>581581429
Because she has a pet chicken, duh.
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>>581581001
no, it's too long, and i'm pretty sure MAO will do it someday. i only have a plus account so i can't waste my limits too much. i'll just do totsuraba/manosaba for the meme, and maybe on of the latest liarsoft official mtls just to see how bad they are
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>>581581510
totally normal huh
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I hate w*men
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Gymbro heroine...
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>>581581521
Can you translate/check individual lines?
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How bad is WA1? I'm not playing 2 before 1 so if 1 is really that bad I'll never play 2.
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yuri out of nowhere? i was more surprised by this than by the chicken
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Well, /vn/?
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>>581581996
the bbc line was already audited by everyone if that's what you care about, just search bunny in archive
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Post your favorite vn characters
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>>581582019
it's 6/10 if you only do 1 route and if you play the original version
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>>581582128
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>>581582064
this art is satanic
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Thoughts on jev?
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>>581582128
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>>581582128
Here
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>>581582229
>>581582212
>>581582128
>women
Really? Men are better written than women you fucking agp fags
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>>581582079
Soulless slop
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Good afternoon /vn/ hope alls well
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>>581582128
The GOAT
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>>581582337
Both are fine desu I happen to like this character from rance
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>>581582337
>Men are better written than women
Well true.. but anon posted a picture of a female so my thoughts automatically wandered to that
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>>581582348
meant for >>581582128
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>>581581024
>>581581319
it's funny that she is only here because moetroon was blogposting her favorite kusoge lel
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>>581582503
I wish i looked like here :(
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>>581562115
Aww, I have to go redownload it over the older patch
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The OPPAI
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>>581582638
I honestly haven't played it yet but it doesn't look that bad
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>>581582128
>>581582961
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>>581582547
He is so cool..
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I wish I could have saved all raped heroines from having sex with others.
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HFK
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>>581583260
This is me when I play mahjong.
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>>581582880
Me too sis, me too...
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Imagine cyberbullying a cute chuunitard...
We need Mishima to doxx them.
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>>581583213
Ok I didn't play rance so yeah that is not ok
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>>581583174
meant for >>581583049
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Funniest line in Persona 5.
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>>581583496
Trump be like
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>there wasn't a cloud in the sky
>background is the image of a sky with clouds in it
Every fucking time
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>>581583496
And yet Donald Trump is still president. Go. Fucking. Figure.
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>>581572169
Every single VN should look like this.
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>>581583615
This.
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>there wasn't a penis in her, she was pure
>background is the image of a vagina getting penetrated by 4 penises
Every fucking time
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Can you recommend me vn's where male MC aren't evil or bad?
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That's a penis...!
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>>581583915
How can plottards self insert if their protagonist isn't bad or evil?
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Bros I'm so fucking dead. My family came to see my new apartment and I have moonlight on my TV so I can stream VNs from Steam. My retard brother was fucking around with the tv and opened steam and opened the last game I played (Nukitashi 2). He hit continue. It was right where I left off. The Rei loli scene. I grabbed the controller and turned it off but everyone already saw...
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>>581583915
Umineko,Fata morgana,Black Sheep Town,muv luv,utawarerumono,aokana,baldr sky,sengoku koihime,Maitetsu,Aiyoku no eustia(Caim isn't evil he is just retarded in final arc)
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sherrylings... i'm coming for you...
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>>581584051
Now they understand why you're still a virgin loser
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>>581583915
why are you gay>?
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>>581584024
Does the protagonist have to evil?
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>>581584151
Thanks I look into those
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>>581584151
>Black Sheep Town
No
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>>581583448
Personally, I would like to have sex with Yumi.
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>>581584024
"bad" in the sense of blank self-insert MCs too, that's why there's also "evil"
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>>581583496
He was wrong even in game
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>He's visualizing
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>>581584165
>edited a file
sherryling.exe
>ran commands
fly, my sherryling!
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>>581583586
Seething tranny.
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>>581584165
You don't want to do that. As a sherrychad I might solve the case and find out the real person behind the floodbro persona.
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>>581584151
>Caim isn't evil he is just retarded in final arc
Was aiyoku no eustia end that bad?
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>>581584595
>it's afraidling
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>>581584595
We all know it's Aisir's persona.
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>>581583915
Rance is not evil, he's just autistic.
The real villains are far worse than him.
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Kageaki...

>>581583342
Same.
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>>581583915
hanachirasu
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i'm getting kinda depressed after having open the MTL QC pandora's box... turn out every single human TL is full of errors and we've been eating real bad all these years...
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>>581584680
Well autistic people are evil.
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>>581584730
This is the rare one where the protagonist is straight up evil and there is not much reason to believe otherwise
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>>581582223
it has potential. we can use in translation workflows, especially for qc.
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>>581584871
the real evil person is that dumb foid that tampered with their duel. everyone would've lived happily ever after if it weren't for her
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Wait Persona is allowed here now?
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>>581582223
for me? it's the fruit fly's brain
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I'm too poor to change my fate.
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>>581585048
Morgana would NOT do this...
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What if Beatrice Castiglioni was jewish?
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>>581584859
is /vn/ evil?
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>>581585107
cause that's your brain
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>>581584151
I played anokana, it was kinda good
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This bitch...
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>>581584051
Your brother knew what he was doing
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>>581585195
Yeah /vn/ is overall sexist, racist, transphobic, ableist, imperialistic.
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>>581584051
If your brother is a shota maybe he fell in love with Rei
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>>581585332
That's just Lilfags
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What would you do in this situation?
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>>581585470
No
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>>581585332
Yeah but /vn/ is also egalitarian,interacial,transpositive,anti-ableist,democratic so that cancels out
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>>581585470
Rape her
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>>581585389
are you telling me those fags were the good guys all this time......?
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>>581585525
That's just uminegrofags
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>>581585470
probably run away like a pussy
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>>581585525
but enough about mumbaimasas
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>>581585527
That wouldn't be very yasashii...
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>>581585525
Name one anon who is like this
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Jewelry heart academia soon
https://youtu.be/IoVk5_pVH5g?si=jd6kU10cRwkdzn3w
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>>581585198
nice one, i kek'd actually
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>>581585625
Flood
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No fucking way the loser self insert jap in Persona 5 can satisfy those girls, bring a b**** cock if you want to pay tribute.
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>>581585525
that's just the negromasas
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>>581585580
Based
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holy chad
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>>581584857
That's why I've said for years I refuse to read translations, and why all the translators I know also refuse to read translations. Sure there's the miracle 1 in 1,000 translation that's not so bad, but those are poor odds to risk kamige with. Doesn't seem so much like JOP cope when you've got the hard numbers, eh?
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>>581585527
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>>581585470
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I never would've guessed that lol
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>>581565015
Floodbro, sorry to cut in,but are you interested on talking more about MTL tips?
It isn't about visual novel but console game,but it would be great to have your on this
did you have a discord or something?
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>>581585789
Sovl
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Any VN protagonist that is smooth and suave and influences the people around in a profound way and instills moral clarity in them?
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>>581586039
Mamiya FUCKING Takuji.
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>>581585837
Go back.
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>>581586039
Rance
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>>581585731
the same nigga that cites lynn's fake iq research to be racist?
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>>581585945
holy ESL
fuck off retard
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>>581586039
battler ushiromiya
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>>581583615
Indeed.
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>>581586086
Go back... to /vn/? Got it, I'm here
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flood's review on muramasa sequel
https://vndb.org/w18410#threadstart
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flood owes me a rimjob
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>>581586146
Go back to /lil/
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Ann Takamaki owes me a rimjob
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>>581585837
btw i think we should make a page or even section directed specifically at translators-only, and put there the stuff you wrote on the tl-fixing page, and probably more if you have ideas

>>581585945
i would like people sharing MTL tips on MTLwiki somehow! i'm personally don't even care about mtl, i just don't like all the cope on this issue. and most people here who do mtl (aisir, mao, and at least other 2 people who drop patches regularly) know more than me anyway
>console game
like what? we already know all jrpgs are censored beyond belief and full of fan-fiction, there's not much to discuss afaik

i'll while i do have a throwaway discord, it's only reserved for non-anonymous posters
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>>581586153
>flood quickly releases high quality MTL patches
>posts reviews on cutting edge kamige that get shared and eagerly read by /vn/
>founding admin of MTLwiki, a site already helping thousands make their own MTL patches to the point flood is like a celebrity people flag down in threads
Meanwhile... chuckle... damn, our poor AI-sir getting sniped after taking months on one MTL project, longer than a human translator would have... His reviews get ignored and he's low on the /vn/ tier list too... The difference is stark
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Persona 4 was better
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>>581586115
Battler is as suave as a smelly hobo
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>>581586371
We're all waiting for the remake to finally play it.
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>>581586273
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Flood and Dul saved /vn/
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>>581586153
the patch is up, you can read it yourself in 3 hours or so

>>581586362
please don't belittle aisir... his patches are all of the highest quality, i could never compete... i wished he shared his MTL knowledge there with mortals like us too...

though it DO be kinda funny how he keeps getting sniped, kek
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>>581586360
like the SRW series. the game by itself is kinda like visual novel with SRPG gameplay and many game from the series didn't have english TL patch for the longest time
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>>581586360
>and probably more if you have ideas
I could probably come up with more stuff. Like "How to find a new job" and such.
The page may be called: "Advice for Human Translators" or something
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>>581585945
I, too, want to discuss MTL all the time. Preferably, on /vn/ or vnts, like gambs-sama is doing day in day out with hundreds if posts. It makes me a bit sad though that nobody wants to talk with him so he has to make up own pals that write him back.
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Save the thread! REDMAN!
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Persona 4 is trannyge
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>>581586636
is there a specific game you're interested in? the whole process i've described in the MTL 101 guide is exactly the same when applied to non-VNs, it's just way more assets to localize

>>581586673
>Joining the Army 101
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>>581586719
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>>581586739
Nanako should have been romanceable instead of this ugly bitch
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>>581586774
I allway had wished to read Summon Night 3 or 4 (PSP). That game only started to have official english from 5 but Working Designs worked on that game,without japanese dub even
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>>581586039
I kept thinking for 10 minutes and unfortunately I can't think of a single one.
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why does this guy hate moeges so much?
>>581568751
the other schizos have names
who is this guy? what's his name?
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>>581586997
He has a valid reason
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>>581586997
you are low IQ
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You guys know Persona 6 is gonna have gay relationship options right?
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>>581586938
looks like you'll be eating good soon? and if want to proofread the QC and fix it just follow the guide, if the game is already modded then it's quick and painless
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>>581586537
too bad we'll never know
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>>581586362
I know this is shitposting, but it's funny that floody tries to be taken seriously when he has lolcow status and is only known for being the biggest shitposter on /vn/, /jp/, and VNDB and also someone who never managed to learn japanese even after six years. Even his reviews on VNDB are total nothingburger... what a clown
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Why do you look like that
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>>581587150
Kek, bodied that Flood-dekinai.
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HFK

>>581586371
>Golden
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When I bought Nukitashi physical last time I was in Japan the based cashier put stickers over the loli screenshot on the back so Australian customs wouldn't rape me.
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>>581587150
bro... i think you forgot your vocaroo link??? i can't find it...
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>>581587150
MTLwiki will probably advance history by an entire full year
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vns like chainsmoker cat?
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>>581587446
LONER_DOG://Snuff Puppy Carnage Society
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>>581583558
Thanks for explaining the joke bro
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>>581587091
if it was the GBA one that a whole different game.It was a spin-off not mainline game
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>>581587945
This was unironically the best fate adaptation
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>>581587286
Joker always has the moves.
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>>581587835
can you link it? hacking gba games is a pain in general tho
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Morgana owes me a rimjob
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>>581556569
Proof? And even if that is, Haru isn't fluent in english nor a translator so her take is worthless.
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I love Karen
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>>581555368
>appeal to celebrity's paid tweet
sasuga manotrannies kek
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>>581588109
if it was the project it is discord only
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And I love you too, sensei!

>>581588090
kek
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>>581588380
I love you Karenschizo. Be my bf.
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MUMBAIMASA
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When they ask me my opinion on moege
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Karen owes me a rimjob
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>>581588417
I googled darisu14 and found 0 hits that that is Haru's handle. The only ones I'm aware of are @shino_nome22 and @shino_act22
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>>581588515
>character asking Joker to read Steins;Gate
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why are there two fucking p5 blogposters
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>>581583915
Dissonance has Toru, and he's not evil or bad, he's genuinely a responsible adult.
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>>581556569
I can't believe how much you confused the retards in this thread
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>>581588647
this place isn't moderated
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Holy... why aren't 18+ JRPGs a thing?!
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you must had know this,but LinguaGacha is a pretty good MTL tool that i'm suprised you haven't added that to the wiki https://github.com/neavo/LinguaGacha/blob/main/README_EN.md
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>>581588647
It's kino
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>>581585525
That's just Lilfags
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I CAN FIX HER!
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>>581588758
play your second JRPG
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>>581588750
Not that I'm bitter but it sure as fuck was moderated when I was playing through Persona
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>>581588572
Ten cats, eh...
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>>581588758
>why aren't 18+ JRPGs a thing
RPGM kino?
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>>581588939
>he's scared
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>>581567240
>shilling umineko even in a competition
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Crpgs > Jrpgs
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>>581588630
>contrarianfag
Crazy how all of you will spend weeks blogposting the most entry level JRPG slop and meanwhile nobody is blogposting any new VNs that have come out like the SG remake. You're all fake VN fans.
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>>581588572
>I'm going to die alone with ten cats.
Literally me
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>>581588763
In 2026, you don't need "MTL tools." You just dump files into an LLM and it spits out a well-translated version of the game.
>>581589048
Why do you keep bringing up the SG remake? Nobody liked it, it was bad, that's why nobody is posting it.
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>>581589048
>new VNs
>SG remake
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>>581588682
You'd think a game inspired by LiL would take itself seriously in this regard rather than just papering over stuff
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>>581588750
Does that mean I can finally talk about my wife Igusa Haruka?
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>>581588939
This place was actually heavily moderated a few years ago.
Then the bot incident happened and everyone gave up.
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>>581586503
Can you cut down on this filler interaction and just have sex with me already?
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>>581589076
>I'm going to die alone with ten cats.
They will feast in your dead body, better not.
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>>581589076
Karen will die from a drug overdose while sleeping in an alley.
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>>581589084
>Why do you keep bringing up the SG remake?
Are you retarded? It just came out. The fact that there is NO discussion about it is the biggest sign that people here don't actually read visual novels.
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>>581589084
> You just dump files into an LLM and it spits out a well-translated version of the game.
wtf are you talking about? dont you want to work on those script with better quality and faster translate speed?
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>>581589164
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOG
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>>581589164
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>>581589078
Adachi is the best Persona villain (he did nothing wrong btw)
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>PLEASE FUCK MY DAUGHTER MC-KUN!
What's the correct course of action here?
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>>581588682
Is that a monogatari BD?
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KINOmasa
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why did 'akijeet start using randomized file names?
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>>581589413
for attention from people like you
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>>581589284
I'm not reading steins;garbage a second time, sorry.
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>>581589428
>>581589428
>>581589428
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>>581589287
There's no way a random tool is going to translate both better and faster than just the raw LLM
>>581589284
It came out like a month ago, it took 1 day for people to realize it was an uninteresting and bad downgrade, and that was that. VNs would be *more* dead if people somehow found it interesting to talk about that slop for a month
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>>581589361
Make her a bride. I love Futa so much bros
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>>581587347
mtl wiki is retarded why mot encode that info in a model
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>>581551220
>KINOmasa
FPBgP
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>>581589413
Isn't that queef though?
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>>581588559
At this point who doesn't owe you a rimjob?
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>>581589284
People did talk about it(albeit not very much) cause it was a lazy cash grab that charged more for cut content and gave no incentive to read when the original exists.
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>>581589598
You don't owe me one, yet.
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I want something cute, animated and incestuous. Like:

Itsumademo Musuko no Mama ja Irarenai series
Imouto Paradise
Neko Para After
Hara Kano (and Haramin and Hara Chuchu)
and even Boob Wars and Oppai cafe.

I hope I haven't played everything already.
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>>581589557
I'm mainly interested in how some people get around the 18+ guardrails for tls, and how they get AI to translate nsfw CGs
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What a nice and light snack for a growing girl.

>>581588895
lil bro, not to brag but I've played quite a lot.
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>>581589562
>>KINOmasa
>FPBgP
FPBP*
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>>581589497
>There's no way a random tool is going to translate both better and faster than just the raw LLM

all right bro,i think you actually never used LinguaGacha and believed too much on LLM raw output
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>>581589697
I don't remember imopara having animations in game
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KIMIKAAAAAA!!!
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>>581589697
all tinkle position and sister position games
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>>581589335
You know too well that I don't like playing these games...
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>>581556795
>MUMBAImasa
KINOmasa*
You are trans. Who gives a fuck about your regrets? No refunds for your chopped cock.
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>>581589562
>>KINOmasa
735th poast best post
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>>581589918
That name kek
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>>581589918
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>>581582128
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>>581589939
>>>KINOmasa
>735th poast best post
post*
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>>581589812
Where do you think the magic is coming from? The raw translation comes from the LLM, it's gated by the compute of the LLM company, it's good in its natural state... Are you trying to get people in a chinese botnet or something?
>>581589773
A good amount of 18+ content is okay to translate, not generate, i.e. Sol will generate translation of rape even though it won't generate raw rape scenes. For the stuff it REALLY won't budge on, like loli content, you can just use chinese models (Deepseek) or trick it into thinking the loli is an adult and like add back in loli signifier words later
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Gentlemen, I am getting cucked by a fish.
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>>581588763
i'll check it out later, thanks
>>581589084
>In 2026, you don't need "MTL tools." You just dump files into an LLM and it spits out a well-translated version of the game.
for translation yes, but if there's a clean script import/export method for various existing engines then it would indeed speed up the whole thing. like i know that for rpgmaker games there are already proper script extractors that don't mess the scripting, so it makes sense using those instead of asking codex to do the whole thing from scratch i guess
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>>581589123
Toru and Sensei are like, similar in concept but vastly different in execution. So I'm not joking when it actually takes that aspect seriously rather than just brushing over it.
>>581589379
Just the cover though. Momoe is embarrassed of people knowing about her actual gift.
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>>581590112
>fish
yamete! 'nager melty soon
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>>581590193
>So I'm not joking when it actually takes that aspect seriously rather than just brushing over it.
How is it taking it seriously if it implies he's a responsible person while fucking his students?
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>>581590078
the whole tool is open source,if there were anything you could check it out on your own.

>>581590143
isn't that what VNTranslationTools and msg-tool made for? Those were designed with visual novel released on pc in mind
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>>581562169
>>581562189
True. Time to reread a bunch of web novels
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>>581590292
you have a fish allergy, coquimba
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>>581590193
>Just the cover though
I see. I like snake girl.
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>>581590058
Maya my beloved
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>>581589084
Technically you're not just dumping files directly into an LLM.
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>>581590559
This made a lot of /vn/ sissies seethe
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>>581589084
>it was bad
wrong
the art is better
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>>581589123
>implying LiL doesn't have its own and eat it too when it comes to this aspect
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>>581590763
>its cake*
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>>581590763
Yeah if there's anything LiL does, it's presenting Sensei as a responsible, upstanding adult. Right?
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>>581590392
>he's a responsible person while fucking his students?
Because all the students-fucking scenes or romance are a completely player-driven choice. You can choose not to engage with them in a romantic/sexual relationship and Toru won't fuck them, so he'll turn them down politely and keep himself away from the trouble that comes with that.
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>>581590920
And if you do fuck them? Is that just the player doing that and Toru dindu nuffin?
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>>581589861
Your favorite color?
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>>581591267
BLUE!
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>>581591124
Well if you choose to have Toru fuck them, let's use the (Yes) outcome of that same event. In which Toru says he'll accept any consequence or punishment Suzu wants to give him because that's what he would deserve for letting himself be tempted by one of his students.
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>>581591487
so he's not responsible? saying he'll accept being punished by a child if she gets tired him doesn't make him a good person
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>>581591487
>And if she somehow becomes a nympho and blackmails me into being her fuck-buddy... well, as unlikely as that is to happen, it's something I'll accept all the same.
Wow what a genuinely responsible adult.
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>>581591867
>>581591908
The game doesn't force you to fuck your students, so in the case you choose the Law-abiding citizen route and don't engage with Suzu, he just coaxes her into the bedsheets and waits for her to fall asleep while being at her side.
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>>581592572
ok but so what? you keep bringing up this choice stuff like it's such a big deal but who the fuck downloads a game about fucking students and then chooses to fuck none of them?
you can't say a protagonist is a super virtuous saint because there's the possibility that the reader will turn every girl down when in reality no one is doing that shit
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steins shit lost
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>>581593114
>you can't say a protagonist is a super virtuous saint
I'm not saying he's a virtuous saint. But he's not an irremediable piece of shit either. Like, he genuinely cares about the people around him and looks out for their best interest. That is what I mean when I say he's a responsible adult. Of course since this is a student-fucking game of course everyone will do it, I get that.
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>>581594057
>Like, he genuinely cares about the people around him and looks out for their best interest.
By fucking underage girls that he's in a position of authority over?
>That is what I mean when I say he's a responsible adult.
So you mean literally nothing I guess.
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>>581589326
ml hasn't aged all that well has it
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People like Dissofag are why Selebus has to include 10000 passages about why teachers fucking minors in their class is not an ethical thing
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>>581594417
Nah, the characters feel more alive than most recent vns
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>>581594460
I wonder if that's how Dissonance actually presents it or if that's just his "interpretation" of it.
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I love oppai lolis, especially Yuki!
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>>581594460
>>581594953
I mean, I understand your points and see your perspectives. This the kind of discussion I like to have even if I'm wrong at the end, thank you.
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uminegro lost
kinomasa won
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NEGROmasa lost
MUMBAImasa lost
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>>581597283
>umiNEGRO lost
>KINOmasa won
fixed
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>>581600448
>NEGROmasa lost
>MUMBAImasa lost
IDBLT
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>>581600789
>>umiNEGRO lost
>>KINOmasa won
this
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>>581602524
>>NEGROmasa lost
>>MUMBAImasa lost
trvke
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>>581602635
>>>umiNEGRO lost
>>>KINOmasa won
Everyone says this
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>>581602976
>>>NEGROmasa lost
>>>MUMBAImasa lost
bodied that MONG
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>>581603042
>>>>umiNEGRO lost
>>>>KINOmasa won
/thread
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>>581603227
>>>>NEGROmasa lost
>>>>MUMBAImasa lost
MHBST
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>>581603283
>>>>>umiNEGRO lost
>>>>>KINOmasa won
Best post in this thread.
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>>581603379
>>>>>NEGROmasa lost
>>>>>MUMBAImasa lost
KWAB
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NEGROmasa lost
MUMBAImasa lost
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>>581603752
>NEGROmasa lost
>MUMBAImasa lost
805th post best post
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>>581603564
>>>>>>umiNEGRO lost
>>>>>>KINOmasa won
Death to uminegros.
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>>581597283
>uminegro lost
>kinomasa won
finally a good post
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>>581603724
>>>>>>NEGROmasa lost
>>>>>>MUMBAImasa lost
TRVKE NUKEM
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>>581603752
>NEGROmasa lost
>MUMBAImasa los
All of us are saying this.
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>>581603801
>>>>>>>umiNEGRO lost
>>>>>>>KINOmasa won
This so much this.
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>>581597283
>uminegro lost
>kinomasa won
I kneel.
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>>581603951
>>>>>>>>umiNEGRO lost
>>>>>>>>KINOmasa won
based AF
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>>581604120
>>>>>>>>>umiNEGRO lost
>>>>>>>>>KINOmasa won



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