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Its dead already

Blizzard's new version of World of Warcraft, based on vanilla WoW. Set in the same Azeroth but expanded upon with new zones, dungeons, raids, quests and much more.

>Many new race/class combos including Undead Paladin and Dwarf Shaman

>More than 1k quests added making a 25% increase in quest content alone

>Talent Calculator
https://forevertalents.up.railway.app

>When is it being released?
Release date November 4th

>Beta Guilds
Type /who g-"Guild name" to see who's online, whisper anyone for an invite, or ask in thread.
<wowfg> - PvP, Horde
<DogFart> - PvP, Alliance
<Little Space> Alliance
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sell me on it
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>>581560465
classic. but retail.

how about it?
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>>581560512
fucking incredible
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Aussies post burger codes please :>
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>>581560512
How fucked is the pvp going to be at 60? Like if everyone is running around with wotlk power talents yet no resilience and only 5000ish health pools. Everyone just gonna get global'd with no chance of healers keeping up?
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I'll believe the hype when I see the endgame
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Will it run on my i5 and gtx 1050ti? it runs retail smoothly
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>>581560512
So will it be balanced? I want to roll a dwarf, either shaman or hunter
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>>581560875
I cried a single tear of joy...
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Will the characters we make continue to be when it releases?i don't wanna start over at 4th of November
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Do the blue elves have low res models? Every video i can find is using the hd models
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>>581561973
>Do the blue elves have low res models?
Nope.
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>>581562056
Weird, i feel like there should be a bigger outrage about this
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FemNelf Warrior vs John Paladin for tanking?
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>>581562136
Did you really think shitzard will do x2 modeling for every new thing?
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>>581562925
>warrior in aggrends soddy 2.0
lmaoing
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>>581561068
the devs will roll out balance patch yesh
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Can't afford beta is it good?
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OK WHICH ONE OF YOU INCELS IS THIS????
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Do you think sylvanas smells good?
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>>581563260
It's definitely unrealistic to expect this.
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>>581563260
If they had, I probably would have been willing to pay full price for this game.
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>>581560875
>wotlk power talents
such as ?
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>>581566570
She likes being raped
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>>581562136
There wasn't going to be sd models at all they were literally added at the last minute before blizzcon, these people really thought that no one wanted classic graphics in their classic plus game
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https://files.catbox.moe/lqx2oy.mp4
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>>581565954
it's just classic with more loot
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>>581561920
I heard beta participants get dibs on names, but I don't think anyone has ever carried beta progression over to 1.0
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WoW slave then
WoW slave now
WoW slave... forever
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>>581562925
nelf warrior because swords are going to be hot commodity on alliance because of humans 2% crit racial
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>>581565954
retail minus
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>>581566674
durator... home...
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>all this time i've been thinking the campfires are an okay mechanic, only slightly worse than turtle's survival tents
>mfw just realized the campfires are STATIC objects, placed by the devs
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH

WHAT THE FUCK AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAH
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>>581563260
They make enough money to have 3 different looks to the game retro, HD, and Lover'sLab
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previous thread >>581553706
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>>581566695
Sorry bro, Im a conqueror since WoD.
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>>581565954
60 USD for 20 hours of gameplay.
Rugpulled again.
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EU PEEPS

ITS TIME TO TURN ON VPN AGAIN

THE LAG IS RISING
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>>581566885
I don't believe this because it's too retarded to be true.
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>>581565954
>blue gear outta everyones ass=retail coded dopamine spam
>overbearing anti soul gas
>half assed sd baked in on top of retail models
and much more
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anyone bored already? i dont think ill be able to hit 60 if i even play at launch
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>>581566885
>>mfw just realized the campfires are STATIC objects, placed by the devs
uh no? static objects placed by players are you retarded
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>Human starting zone: exit Elwynn Forest with your biggest accomplishment being having beaten a prized pig
>remain a nameless adventurer until 60

>Skyborne starting zone:
>Brave hero... You have saved us all, you are what it MEANS to be a Skyborne, you encapsulate the very best of us. You are a legend on this day, your name will ring for eternity...
>"Curse you, *Player*! I, the Elemental Lord, will be back for my revenge!!"

"The world as a main character" btw
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Why is there a Death Knight at the Eastvale Logging camp
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>>581566956
yea. 0-20 vanilla is always boring. gets fun when you get to the contested zones
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>>581566961
feeling emasculated little humie?
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>>581566885
you realized wrong retard
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>group up with randos to do quests
>everyone joins
>we walk around talk about shit

I have missed this social aspect in wow so much guys holy shit
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>>581567013
Yeah 40-60 is when vanilla peaks
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>>581567010
achsuallhie~!
death knights cant use staves
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>>581566570
she smells like a rotting corpse...
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>>581566885
did you not play vanilla? placing campfires has always been a feature
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>>581567010
hes clearly under scourge influence. not really pointing towards death knight
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>>581567035
Yes actually
Feels like Skyborne are the main characters and every other race is some nameless loser, instead of everyone being a nameless loser together

Fucking smug knife eared shits
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alliance questing is still all over the place having you visit 4 zones before 20
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Hey mordy i'm invisible
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so what was /ourguy/ alex's opinion on banilla+ forever beta?
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lil humie bouta get cucked by orc futa
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>>581567115
Analytics show Elves sell better, please understand saar
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>>581565954
It's good
>leveling experience feels like vanilla
>class balance is healthier
>new content is better integrated into the world and more polished than private server content
>quality of life improvements like being able to learn one gathering profession in the starting area
>graphical updates are good, although the volumetric fog can be a bit too thick in some places
>the decision to make casters dependent on weapons for spellpower is... interesting
tl;dr it feels bad until you get a good green or blue, and then you're off to the races
>retail-esque UI is ugly and the most common criticism
>sky elves are whatever
>reuse of assets from later expansions is concerning, but expected
If you're asking if the beta specifically is good, don't bother with it unless you really just want to scratch the WoW itch for the sake of scratching it. There's no real reason to play it beyond that.

Sorry, what I meant to post is RETAIL- KEKAROO DOOMCHADS WONNED BIGLY ALL THE STREAMERS STOPPED PLAYING IT FOGEVER
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>15% ms
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>>581567171
>the spacing language barrier still works
SOUL
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>>581567129
the fuck is this shit
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Brown status?
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>>581560875
Sorry, but we're balancing the game for parsers.
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>>581567212
bow slot + arrow slot
ui just sucks
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>>581560875
Impossible to know. Itemisation has been overhauled, kits have been changed and base damage heavily reduced - eg rank 12 fireball does 71% of the damage in classic (Rank 12: 425 to 541 instead of 596 to 760, 60 instead of 76).

So i would suspect level 60 baseline power to be more item based and with what the items are looking like, the stat curve seems to be much flatter. If they can keep a lid on ilvl and throttle big power spikes i see no reason why they cant find a healthy TTK balance

One thing i noticed is a lot more short term longer cooldown disruptions and CC - priest gets penance and an aoe confuse, hunters get a lot more kiting bullshit in survival but traps are 15 second longer cd. So who knows, really. Its not solved.
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>>581567174
Oh and definitely don't play it if you're in EU
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>>581567187
That's neat.
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campfires are cool but at the end of the day its still a raid log sim if you arent someone that cares about alts
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How is it that every flavor of elves EXCEPT Night Elves are sociopaths
>Blood Elves were sapping the life out of a naaru
>Highborn who stuck around in Dire Maul are psychos
>Skelves who left Dire Maul immediately started enslaving elementals once they reached the elemental planes
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>>581567289
>zero info about end game
>the end game is going to suck because its going to be like this
k
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>>581566885
thats the tutorial campfire retard
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>>581567212
relics retailbabbie
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>>581567289
Yeah shit man I really wish I had pet battles and delves to keep the game interesting you know what I mean?
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>>581567187
How does movement speed stack anyhow, does it? I like going fast.
I haven't played Classic that deeply in a while.

Might roll Nelf for my Rogue because of the miniscule 2% movement speed (and the 1% dodge, and the 15 seconds of +10% crit holy cow they sound strong). But if Sprint for instance still caps you at 150% rather than 152%, meh
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>>581567297
Elves are like Vulcans/Romulans in Star Trek or Eldar in Warhammer. Their natural state is being selfish, arrogant assholes, but they can aspire to be better through a rigorous culture of self denial, and in Warcraft Nelves case, communing with nature spirits/Elune
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>>581567297
I wish belves remained mana-addicted evil self serving cunts instead of being "cured" by the end of tbc
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>>581567297
because mommy elune is the twin sister of azeroth, the last titan
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>old ass classic quests are empty

How does blizzard manage to fuck up ANCIENT quests
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>>581566956
I've done this same trek 1-60 so many times now across blizz servers and pservers that I don't think I can stomach anymore. The updated graphics were kind of cool to experience but its still the same old azeroth in the end.
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does anyone know if hunters can put traps down in combat in forever?
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>>581567461
yes
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>>581567394
It's funny reading about the Highborn in DM and seeing they agree with the Night Elves and everything about nature and all...but they think giving up their history of arcane magic is fake and gay.
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>>581567414
Visible pantylines are so hot, I'm glad zoomer girls are bringing them back into fashion
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>>581566961
They just can't help themselves, can they?
Modern Blizzard simply cannot make new content without world ending stakes, even a fucking starting zone in a game where other races deliver boar ribs or kill some annoying Grells (the lowest of low demons)
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crusader or righteousness for 2h pally
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>>581567527
>panty_straps
goated danbooru tag
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>>581560875
>Everyone just gonna get global'd with no chance of healers keeping up?
as it should be
fuck healers
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>>581566885
>frog poster
>retarded
Tale as old as time.
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>>581567452
>its still the same old azeroth in the end.

Isnt that the entire fucking point
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So the Beta will be wiped like Blizzard is known to do but have they confirmed this yet? It seems odd to let people level to 30 and play for an entire month then wipe a couple weeks before launch.

Personally a staggered launch for all the good goyim buying skelf slop would be preferred.
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>>581567629
judge crusader and then
twist command and righteousness
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>>581567672
no i wanted wow 2, not wow anniversary 2
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>>581567709
>twist command
ugh....
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>>581567672
Uhh.. no? We wanted Classic but with more, not what we got that is basically that, okay??
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I don't know why I decided to level THE SAME CLASS in beta that I'm going to on release. But then I've never played a druid before so there's that.
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>>581567697
>P2W would be preferred
no one is taking you seriously
>>581567760
if you dont want to seal twist you go for holy shock
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>>581567697
They dont have to confirm it. Even for blithering idiots like yourself it should be obvious what a Beta means, what its purpose is and when it has been served.
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>>581560875
I bet they're inflating health given the amount of CC they're adding to a lot of new classes
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>people bustling around in every major city
>theres people in every starting area
>people are grouping up for elites, quests etc
>shooting shit

holy FUCK wow is finally a mmorpg again
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>>581567858
Stop lie bloody benchod game daed!
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>>581567858
enjoy it while it lasts, because it will all be gone within a few weeks of launch

this happens every single time without fail
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PSA AH IS FACTIONLESS

YOU'RE BUYING SHIT FROM HORDE/ALLIANCE
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>>581567268
I played on EU with zero issues yesterday for 8 hours
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>>581567915
But what if this time its different
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I'm going to play pvp but if my name I want to reserve is taken then I'd rather play pve then not have the name I want
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>>581567858
>MMOs are fun in the first week
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>>581567915
Being a single, region wide server will fix everything.
By the way did Yuros get their server yet? I heard they had like 1500ms and constant disconnects for some reason (even if they had to play on NA servers it should have "only" been like ~150 ping)
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>>581567672
It's ok that its the point. I'm just saying from playing the beta I realised I'm burnt out of wow. Thank you maccas for saving $60 and also the sub money.
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>>581567915
this never happened in era
the starting zones are still active to this day
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>>581567982
feels good still being the bottom after all these years
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i just made a new character on beta and the starting zone is a ghost town
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>>581562136
>Weird, i feel like there should be a bigger outrage about this
Well you see most people if given a choice will pick better graphics. This obsession with shitty graphics really is just a reddit / 4chan thing. For 99% of people better is just better.
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my cpu is going haywire
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As of right now there is too much acces to rare gear in the game.

Only 1 dungeon chainquest should reward you a piece of rare gear per dungeon right now i see alot of dungeonquests rewarding rare gear.
I do not think low level dungeons boss should drop a piece of rare gear
While dungeons are great more dungeons being added also means more rare gear not sure what to do with this.
Professions letting you make alot of rare gear is great but that means even more acces to rare gear.

With all of this most people will be running around in majority of rare gear for most of their leveling journey and i do not think this should be the case also feels like the powercreep already starts at level 15.

This is just my opinion and would like to see if others feel the same way.
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>>581567989
gween
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>>581568014
>By the way did Yuros get their server yet?
nope pings fluctuating like crazy
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>>581568037
Might just be because keys are limited so there's no new players after the main crowd moves on.
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>>581568051
you mean i should have 1100 hp at level 20 unbuffed?
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>>581568051
Yeah I definetely feel like this, everything is a fucking blue.
The green to blue to purple upgrades felt huge, they're removing that aspect by just giving out blue gear.
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We have been playing the same game for 20+ years
When will we let it go
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>>581567858
You're forgetting
>constant anti-Indian sentiment in general chat
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>>581568051
upvoted sir
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Im currently doing an undead pally

Might switch to a human pally and see how go od SW looks
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How is holy priest healer looking?
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>>581568037
nigger its fucking 4 am and its a beta
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>>581568051
>This is just my opinion and would like to see if others feel the same way.
No, I like getting good gear from dungeons.
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>>581568142
Good, but can be better. Do they hate jews too?
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I think one of the reasons combat is easier is cause hp and mana regen starts immediately as you leave combat and it's the modern kind of regen rather than ticks so you easily get 10% back before you pull the next mob without even thinking about it
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>>581568037
>starting zone is a ghost town
Uh no
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psa to the anons complaining about the fog being too much, the shadow quality setting in graphics also changes the amount of fog, the lower the setting the more fog you get and the brighter it is
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>>581568037
It's the middle of the fucking night for the civilized world
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>>581568207
>>581568305
>>581568114
im just hearing excuses as to why the hype is already gone
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>>581568263
it's just turbo gear + camp buffs giving mana per 5, spirit, all stats, etc. I had 5 blues at level 14
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>>581567858
this your first launch?
real question
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>>581568295
>, the lower the setting the more fog you get and the brighter it is
that's...weird
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>>581567982
>>581567915
>>581568363
>omega giga realmless wont last
come on guys... a little more optimism
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>>581568350
>I had 5 blues at level 14
Surely you have proof?
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>>581568295
left is a bug. my gnome area looked like i was a ghost until i relogged
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>>581568305
But is 15:21 here right now, prime time?
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>>581568295
So the people complaining are poorfag toaster players?
Suddenly makes sense.
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Will the Gnomes finally retake Gnomereggan in Forever?
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>forever beta killed this season
grim
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>>581566961
Chris Metzen will ruin Forever
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what killed the hype?
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>>581568435
you get 3 blues from the quests alone when you do RFC or the new alliance dungeon of the same level range
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>>581568478
no they already did that in retail
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Gnomler was a pretty chill guy
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>>581568415
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>>581566961
the elemental lord shit, and the aesthetic screams of chinkoid pandering
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>>581566961
>swarming with bots on day one of the closed access beta
>retailifcation of the very first piece of new content they added (massive stakes, overdone graphics (other races get wooden training swords or blunt hatchets, they start with gear the visual equivalent of a raid drop))
I just want the game to be good, but my fears are already being realized.
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How do i even get from UC to OG i forgot lmao
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>>581568496
To be fair this season in retail is so bad it would have killed itself but yeah, it's going to be a complete ghost town after the 4th. So many guilds will die its funny as hell
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>>581568452
Then you were experiencing a separate bug, even if you log out with shadows on the lowest setting it will still look like the first image when you log back in, I verified it with multiple guildies and there is currently a post on the forums about it
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>>581568585
lmao
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>>581560307
>Blizzard's new version of World of Warcraft, based on vanilla WoW. Set in the same Azeroth but expanded upon with new zones, dungeons, raids, quests and much more.
Why do they keep doing this shit? FUCKING KNOCK IT OFF BLIZZARD! I'm so goddamn sick of their shit.

>I played TBC when it came out
>I played Classic when it rereleased
>I played SOD when it came out
>I played Classic when it rerereleased

I'M NOT PLAYING CLASSIC AGAIN YOU MOTHERFUCKERS!!!
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>>581568496
This season killed itself by being garbage
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>>581568667
who asked tho ?
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no you didn't zoomer fag
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>>581568667
seeyou in the barrens on release
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>getting dcd every 5 minutes

its VPN time again guys
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>>581568768
I'm not falling for it again.
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Orc resto shammy or tauren resto dudu for BG pvp?
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>>581568667
Its wow 2.0 anon its not retail nor classic you fucking moron
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>>581568596
>I just want the game to be good
>is reposting shit from Reddit
Concerntrolls are such retarded faggots lmao
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>>581568435
you can craft blues at level 12
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blue and greens being more frequent is a GOOD Thing
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0.1% crit mod increase to gear per raid tier confirmed
And yes you will raid for 10 hours for a chance at a +0.1% more crit drop
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>>581568496
>>581568621
>Ion wants people to raid instead of playing M+
>Makes it so all of the best gear is in raids to force players to raid
>Players just leave instead
I'm glad, fuck Ion and his dogshit design.
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>>581568861
Druid
Back in tbc I would argue shaman is better with melee bros but in wotlk it's not even a contest
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>>581568596
>AAAGGGHHHH THIS SWORD LOOKS BETTER THAN OTHER STARTING ZONE SWORDS I'M GOING INSAAANEEE MY FEARS ARE BEING REALISED
lmaoing at your life
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I've never played WoW, should I get into wow forever? I'm turned 30 this year
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im waiting for the next classic fresh (confirmed)
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Anyone seen someone use the new surname feature to call themselves Jeffrey Epstein?
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>>581567858
>talking to person
>we phase into different layers mid conversation
>MMO
lol. no.
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>>581568886
>>581568979
>lmao
>lmaoing
You're seething so hard rn..
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>>581569008
perfect time to try it out for 15$/month come novemenber
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>>581569008
I recommend working on your grammar first.
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>>581568861
>>581568978
Nvm I'm retarded and thought this was a different /wpsg/, go shaman if you have melee bros or plan on playing with guildmates and druid if you play pick ups only
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>>581568930
thats probably why they added percentile system
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>>581569008
this niggas turnt up
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>>581569029
There was no anime or live action series announce btw so whoever posted this likely got fired, blizzard has been known to purposely seed false information to employees before on projects they're not involved with in order to catch leakers, hope the updoots were worth it
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>>581569029
MoP ....
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>>581569008
yes
its better than retail
and has more players than classic
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>>581569030
epstein is flagged as mature word
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>>581568880
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>>581569030
it's a banned word
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Paladin seems kinda strong right now
For context
>no camp buff, but had might and fortitude on
>level 12 with self-crafted greens
>fought Hogger on his own until around 60% then aggroed a respawn
>accidentally aggroed a camp of 3 more as I was about to kill Hogger
>got him down, popped DI and healed up, as well as popped a lesser healing potion
>used lay on hands
>killed them all with around 30% hp at the end
Closest I've been to dying so far but yeah it seems pretty easy
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>>581569179
>>581569197
kek
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>>581569179
>>581569197
What the fuck?!? he and bobby owned that company, this is a disgrace....
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>>581569151
>There was no anime or live action series announce btw
yes there was
>An animated Diablo series is officially in development at Netflix, as announced by Blizzard president Johanna Faries during BlizzCon 2026
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>>581569008
I am 31 and started playing this game when I was 11 with my cousin, I have literally had a wow subscription for longer than anything else in my life
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>>581569069
sure kid
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Just use Dscheffri Ebbstien
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>>581568956
To issue is raiders want to raid and maze rats want to maze and both parties are time-gated and forced into content they don't like.

If you're a raider you need to farm maze+ for gear and then for crests every single week. If you're a maze rat you need to farm the raid for the bis items. Everyone loses time doing stuff they don't like. The raid is also extremely difficult on top of being straight up unfun with the new zone being absolute dogshit tier garbage. The maze dungeons are also horrible so literally every part of the game is garbage. You add to that the toxicity and requirements of mythic guilds, the probably 10th season in a row where you're forced to grind crests on a time-gated path and people just straight up vanish when a better alternative shows up, even if it's more than a fucking month away.

Retail is such fucking garbage its unbelievable.
>t. mythic raider who killed both Lura and Dimmy and actually had fun doing it.
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>>581568861
Damn, Kungen made a lot of progress, good for him
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That fuckin' animal, I can't even say his name
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>>581569274
This is how it's been every since M+ was introduced, even before crests you were still expected to run a minimum amount of M+ to get gear before stepping in to raids, it is truly such a fucking cancer on the game that I'm not sure how they don't realize it by this point pretty much all of my casual and "midcore" friends have quit retail because they hate M+ and feel obligated to run it to get a raid spot, they need to just completely revamp the whole gearing system at this point but they've dug themselves in to such a deep hole and are so risk adverse that they'll never do it, the two systems will just continue to cannibalize each other
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>doing HOT as level 13 warrior tank
>everyone else is level 13 but we have a hunter who is level 20
>obviously i cant keep up with their threat, the hunter understands that and has no issue
>our priest, who clearly came from retail as they didnt know where they are when they died and appeared at the graveyard outside IF says "RESPECTFULLY HAVE YOU EVER TANKED" when a hunter multi shot aggros 5 enemies and obviously i cant keep all of them off their backs
>"pull more ill keep you alive i promise :3" <our healer right before i intentionally pulled 4 mobs to teach him a lesson
not once did our healer drink and we did the dungeon with me constantly watching our healer stay at 300 mana and when i said to drink before the boss they said to focus on my game "hon"
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>>581566921
How is it a rugpull when you know this beforehand. Or how much did you think reaching level 20 (30) will take. Youre mainly paying for the race+a months sub and some cosmetic crap.
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>they want to play classic AGAIN after fresh, anni, vanilla, SoM, SoD and multiple pservers
Is it because of smaller numbers and simple gameplay which is way too high and harder in retail? Still chasing that feel from 20 years ago when you played the game for the first time? What is it? Why?
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Its only day 2 of the beta but im seeing people in full blue gear, enchanted with armor kits

When it actually releases I'm going to be gear checked in leveling dungeons before getting invites
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>>581569560
sounds like you got rolled and smoked by a retail chad to me teebeequeueaytch
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I'm not reading /v/ blogposts gonna keep it str8
I know many more are coming but I'm not reading
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>>581569560
You'll have to deal with a lot of retail trannies until the first week or so is over and they go back to spamming mazed+
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>>581569626
i was mostly amused, why be new to a game and act toxic in it?
ive never played retail, does it not have a similar threat system?
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>>581569660
He's in Outland... So, no.
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>>581569623
Or is it because it's familiar and you know what to do?
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Does plainsrunning work in druid forms? If so, does it stack with travel form speed/cat speed?
What about aspect of the cheetah?

Any Tauren druid/hunters in the beta feel free to lmk
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>>581569560
It sounds like you were brutally mogged by someone in their insanely wide lane, sorry
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>>581569551
there's even less of a reason to change now
retail can double down on being the speedrunner esporter containment zone, forever will be for dads and casuals
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>>581569656
>does it not have a similar threat system?
Yes but not really, the moment a tank has hit anything with 2+ abilities they will never lose aggro
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>>581569694
He can just open portal and enter
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>>581569242
>I have literally had a wow subscription for longer than anything else in my life
same, pretty brutal realization for a saturday morning
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>>581569624
No-lifers be no-lifing. It's worse because it's an $60 / VPNing to McDonald's beta, so it's mostly WoW addicts.
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>>581569274
>>581569551
Blizzard should just go back to challenge modes
>gear scales down
>Have to beat timer
>no infinite scaling shit
>can use toys to do crazy shit like in MOP
>rewards like class transmog
There, it's fixed
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>>581569623
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>>581569560
Seems to me you got your cortisol spiked by retailmaxxing priestgod, sorry to say.
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>dots can crit by default
>shadowform gives 100% crit damage
>nelf - 10% crit for 15 sec
>b-but g*ome
>shan't be playing g*ome
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>>581569708
Yes
No
No
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Is there a way to lower the fog amount without making it look worse or turning it off completely? I like the look, but lowering settings seems to just make it look like shit and they were way too heavy handed with their placement of it.
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>>581569645
The game will be turned into retail so they'll stay.
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>>581569770
The portal WON'T be opened!
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>ally players casually walking into ruins of lordaeron and getting to the new dungeon
>I have yet to see any horde attempt to get into the hall of thanes
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Do you guys see a long future for this game
I think this game will only last two or three years before it hovers around 500~ players average
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Remember to always compulsively check the thread to see how the ''vibes'' are according to 4chan, it will improve your gaming experience greatly
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new graphics are so cool
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>>581569908
They said WE won't be entering the portal
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>>581569807
Yea let's get a private discord going as well so dev can discuss and coordinate with his favourite top timers speedtrannies like in MoP.
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>>581569865
>When the developers intentionally make it look like dogshit because the player base keeps asking for more dogshit to play
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>>581569914
meds
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>>581569910
>ruins of lordaeron
>no guards anywhere
>hall of thanes
>inside IF
>in the throne room
>down 3 floors
>npcs everywhere
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>>581569910
didn't the fat man say there's a secret route for horde
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>>581569864
Damn I thought Tauren were about to go crazy on speed leveling with 60% speed from level 20, but 1-20 is so short I doubt it will make much of a difference in the run.
But that said aoe is nerfed to shit so Warlock/Hunter will finally be top speed levelers again, so Tauren hunter will probably be the fastest just for plainsrunning. mage is dead in forever unless you only care about pvp.
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>>581569942
the only vibe here is in your huge troll asshole
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SW should tone it down with the industrial revolution....
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>>581569991
that's my point
they could've at least put the entrance outside of IF, not literally beneath the main IF boss room
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>fog
good but they need to tune it, and make it so the effect varies from day to day like the weather
>water
kino, some of the rivers look really good, though I feel like they need to add some SFX to the waterfalls to make it sound like rapids
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>>581569910
hordekeks have Ragefire Chasm you retard
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>>581569991
>noo there are RPG elements in my RPG reeee
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>>581569945
They could be better, but they're still very immersive and atmospheric
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>>581570047
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>>581569945
I actually can't get over the new water. It's absolutely insane. Only wish I could turn the fog down slightly. It looks great in several zones but its bit too much in some others.
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>>581569958
>WE won't be entering the portal
Actual warlods of draenor invasion potential, holy shit
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>>581570003
if there is one, nobody has figured it out yet
maybe horde players are just dumb
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Is she right? I want to play an Undead Rogue, but apparently it's shit tier...

>Cannibalize: useless
>Underwater breathing: useless
>Will of the Forsaken: niche as fuck for PvE
>the one racial that does something (other races get 2 or 3) is shit
Bonebros..
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>>581570145
>illidan steps through the portal with an army, to reclaim what was owed him 10 000 years ago
tyrande
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>>581569914
>years
6 months tops.
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best race class combo to let everyone know I'm a cuck?
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>>581570095
>hordekeks have Ragefire Chasm you retard
a tunnel with mobs that drop green boes and like 3 quests?
compared to two new fully fleshed out dungeons with really good blue items?
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>>581570223
retard cattle
play what (YOU) enjoy
dumbfuck
fuck you
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>>581570234
Ngl I hope he just stays there and fucks off, I've had enough of legion for one life
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new deadmine item
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>>581570223
lol
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>every forever expansion will be just new shit coming out of the dark portal
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>>581570273
bodied that freak
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Playing with a gamepad at low levels is so fucking comfy. Takes some getting used to, but after that it's top tier couch gaming. Will probably suck when I get 500 different spells, but for now it's peak. UI is pretty good too, but having a keyboard next to you to open a bag or a map faster is still mandatory.
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>>581570273
People won't invite you if you're playing the shittiest race/class combo in the game. They'll presume you're a retard.
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>>581570223
>she
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>>581569964
the previous blizzard president used to sell runs on stream and is now the ceo of a sports betting company
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>>581570309
yea, it's kino
we went over this yesterday
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>>581570309
>70 str rings
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>>581570223
Dots don't snapshot, but Nelf is probably the best tank for early aggro generation and quickly picking up mobs with the 10% on demand crit, meanwhile human best for sustained dps
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SoD Sleeping bag is back too
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>>581570316
>expansions
>supposed to be classic FOREVER
Sadly Blizzard will probably miss the point as well.
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Reminder to make this game the main source of dopamine and purpose in your life so you obsess about every possible thing that could go wrong
Btw its dead already and its retail and Blizzard hates you
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>>581569792
I met my wife through wow though, we played together for years and she panicked about dying without doing anything when covid hit and demanded we finally meet up and it all just took off from there
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>>581570223
yea undead is looking like it's gonna be the worst race in forever
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>>581570234
How is Illidan on Outland? Isn't he still in nelf futa jail and Kael'thas still in Quel'Thalas?
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>>581570223
I've heard the racial is good, and others say it's absolutely worthless. Don't have beta access to actually test it, but hopefully in the coming days people will actually know one way or another.

The sustain sounds nuts for solo content, for DPS in raids/dungeons (where self healing is less noticeable or relevant) I have no idea.
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I have all graphic settings maxed but the game still just looks like wow has always looked? Is there some specific setting or something I am missing?
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>>581570464
>>581570223
>>581570452
Undead racial is not nearly as OP as people were making it out to be
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>>581570309
Before you start ragebaiting for you's post the other ring.
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>>581560307
>little space> alliance
okay but what playstyle? pvp? pve? rp?
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>>581570507
pvp beta, rp launch
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Why classic WoW?
Why not retail WoW?
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>>581570472
/console volumeFog 1

try that
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Blizzard is clearly using the best as a bait to collect every single possibile controversial gaming combination to add to their censor filter once the game is launched. And of course the idiots of /wowofg/ are helping them with open arms
Enjoy being impossible to choose a based name in november
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>>581570438
very nice anon, will you be playing Forever together?
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>>581570309
>at least 26str at level 17, but most likely 30+
>chance to proc 50 more
This game is about to be so mentally retarded. If this is the 17 gear, what is my first level 60 dungeon blue going to have 500 str on it?
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>>581570223
>oh no I will parse 1% lower
Modern WoW playerbase, everyone.
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>>581566961
Retoilet devs make Retoilet zone
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>>581570365
>>581570486
>>581570578
2nd set ring is a lvl 60 item

https://www.wowhead.com/forever/item=284716/band-of-the-better-half

no idea why youd want a lvl 60 + lvl 17 item though
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>>581570309
>Gay sailor promise ring set
jesus, i thought they'd bury all the forced faggotry into the new zones, LMAO, figures you'd have it in the alliance dungeon though, makes sense.
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>>581570623
Grow up
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>>581570576
Yeah she's sleeping right now so I'm playing some pvp since she only plays on pve realms
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Holy fuck how long is the skelf island? I'm already lvl 10 and they just keep giving me more and more quests
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>combined server with muricans
>every EU morning the Elwynn Forest general is about pleasuring Hogger, trans sex, and horsedicks
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>>581570557
GUAAAAAAAAAAAARDS!
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Whats this shit about a 10k exp quest people are sharing for money?
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>>581570671
ANd
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>>581570557
>Gaming
*Naming
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>>581570609
thats completely retarded though, lvl 60? i mean, sure, maybe if it was a level 30 ring from somewhere else, or the end of a long quest line, but still...

>>581566961
>elemental wind spirit looks like a Temu-genie from aladdin.
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i want flying mounts back holy on god
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>>581570671
I thought people were shitposting, but during NA hours chat is unironically full of bbc posting. On Alliance, of course.
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Am I just behind or has there been a big drop in players?
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>>581570702
I dont know but I assume its some high level quest that you just need to hand in to an NPC in the low level areas. Also
>paying gold to make your own experience worse
retail troon behaviour
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>>581570557
>a based name
edgelords went out of style a decade ago haven't you heard
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>>581570030
>we can get uncucked Zul'jin rejoining the Horde since there are no belves
Playable Amani kino...
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yeah as I thought classic+ is boring

let's go back to retail and play that instead like normal people
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>>581570775
Plapping this slut
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>>581569242
>>581569792
But why? You know you can cancel the subscription right? You're telling me you played WoW for 20 years straight, do they delete your account if you cancel your sub
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>>581570223
>best value out of their passive
>great racial for pvp

They're fine, you would rather be gnome vs mages/druids but they would rather be UD vs priests/warock
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>>581570814
Don't let the door hit you.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/wowforever/comments/1wked5i/pro_tip_turn_on_outline_highlight_if_you_think/#lightbox
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crazy how forever is dead already
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>>581570831
My wifey wouldn't let strangers do that to her sorry!
https://litter.catbox.moe/2ceift.jpg
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>>581570775
slop her getting orc'd and worg'd at the same time
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>>581570915
It was dead on announcement, the content creators are just dragging the corpse through the streets.
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>everyone thought they wanted classic, but they actually wanted watered down retail

BOW BEFORE YA KING

BOW YA SHITS
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>>581570925
You don't get to have a say in that
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>>581570857
it's the greatest game ever made
simple as
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>>581570915
players are returning back to midnight, new season looks kino
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>>581570775
post her stepping on locked cuck dick
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>>581570892
so just like in Diablo 4
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>>581570974
>it's the greatest game ever made
Why?
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>>581570609
that's funny
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>>581566885
Why do you have frogniggers still in this thread? I thought every frognigger was bullied away from 4chan
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>retailers seething
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>>581570557
Ugh, grew the heck up, being edgy is for like teenagers and stuff.
>spots a legend of zelda copy for the switch 2
OMG IM LITERALLY BASEDING OUT RIGHT NOW GUYS, I think might cry, im gonna need a moment....
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did the indians and blue hairs fix the routing yet? I'm guessing not since they're pretending its not a known issue
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>>581569274
How did they fumble M+ so badly? I quit when BFA was absolute shit and when TGisH did their first raid and the forced personal loot (at this point they got rid of ML, dont know if it came back) gave a BiS trinket to someone who doesn't even use it and he couldn't trade it to the 10 people who were clamoring over it because it was an ilvl upgrade. That and everything else about BFA was cringe as fuck and Legion was too good.

But I remember Legion M+ was fun. Everyone loved it. Everyone was pushing high keys and having fun and had stuff to do instead of raidlogging. So what changed to make it miserable?
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>>581570960
>people have opinions more nuanced than old good new bad or old bad new good
Crazy
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>>581570459
Illidan and Kael are in outland with their nagga waif Vashj
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>>581571073
FrogChads run this genny
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>>581571059
because it’s still relevant 25 years later
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>>581566885
NOOOO IT CANT BE TRUE
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>slop fag shows up
>doomjeet it's dead posts suddenly start all at once
oh I'm noticin'
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>>581568037
No shit it’s 20 levels of the same vanilla zones people have been locked into since classic released.
The only new part is a few quests in each region and the blue elf zone.
I don’t think anybody asked for this beta bullshit. Yes some will play it once they launch the “real” servers, until they realize nothing is actually changed, it’s effectively vanilla fresh.
There’s no Turtle enthusiasm about the new management and their plans, everyone knows what blizzards content will look like.
The classes are just retail copy paste bandaids on the classic kits.
It’s all just a uninspired rugpull for the mazed crowd, complete with the beloved WoWClassic dungeon boost afk leveling you’ve grown to love.
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which starting zone has the least amount of walking from a to b to c?
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>>581571059
it's fun, if you're not having fun and you're wasting your time in a thread for it you're prioritizing the wrong things in your life
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>>581571154
Just give me few reasons
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>>581571114
not really still gotta use vpn
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>>581568207
>>581568305
CoA (100k) players had chokefull starting zones for the first 4 days of launch
Sorry but I'm just very skeptic of aggrend's "this is already bigger than wotlk and cata!" shtick
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>>581571242
it’s fun
it’s comfy
it respects your time
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Retail Andy here.

I have to admit that there's something relaxing about killing one mob at a time. Sure, it's not the best return on time investment. But there's a comfy atmosphere to it.
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>>581571228
>it's fun
What's fun for example
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>zeppelins dont DING DING anymore its just a horn

REEEEEEE WHY CHANGE THTA
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Remember to report any racist/sexist name combination. I dont want any of them on launch
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>>581571259
Understandable they only have 3 decades of multiplayer experience, its totally normal for them to fuck up something they could figure out in 2019
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>>581568051
Who cares, it’s all just leveling item dogshit. It’s good if it’s OP so people feel powerful and motivated to do dungeons.
The only thing that really matters beyond launch week is endgame itemisation. Which is why people are so concerned about the 50 spell power on level 20 2hand rares…
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>>581571117
>So what changed to make it miserable?
It's been 10 years of the same shit and they don't even do seasonal affixes anymore, it's just the same dungeon from 2+ to 26+
It's fucking boring.
Ion refuses to do focus on anything besides his mythic boss fights for Liquid and Echo
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>>581571334
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THEY DISABLED REPORT SYSTEM ENTIRELY LMAO
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>>581571320
You can do better than that.
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SOUL is back
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>>581571425
SOVL
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Race in wow for this feel?
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>>581571404
>fun things are fun because they are fun
What's up with these meme answers
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>>581571425
is the forest spirit in question just a random gnome or something?
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I don't like this so I'm going to dedicate at least six months being angry about it online!
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>>581571482
>3 months ago by [deleted]
lol
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>>581571425
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>belves dont have sd
>they have sd
what on earth are you faggots talking about then
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>>581571505
are you talking about you seething at the funposters?
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>>581571482
orc female with a group of (white) human males
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>>581570557
it never mattered anon. when the game actually launches it will have automated right click report just like retail. anything funny and you will instantly get reported and banned simply by walking past narcs who hate fun.
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Ingame report system is down due to heavy use lmao
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>>581571518
ok now look at a actual SD belf model from TBC.
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Did they add my dino jammies in Forever?
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>>581571482
Ever since I discovered AI erp I have coomed swimming pools to tribal rape/slavery scenarios
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>>581571482
Why are colored women like this?
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>>581571425
>>581571514
The one thing I'm afraid of is if Forever gets more and more successful, instead of hiring new people, they'll send retail devs and they'll just drain any soul out of it
>Uh, in retail, we do this, not that, players love it!
and then slowly it just becomes retail again
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>>581571514
the retail devs really couldn't be bothered to have a write a line or two of text for each of the choices?
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>>581571136
I didn't think it was possible, but Forever had made me hate players more than I hate Blizzard itself. You have:
>retards with wildly unrealistic expectations
>retards who got what they asked for, and are claiming it isn't what they wanted
>lingering #nochanges retards who don't understand that this isn't vanilla
>doomposters who tie their self-worth to something failing, and scour Reddit for garbage to repost here or on /v/
>streamers who have virtually nothing of value to say
There's a total lack of nuance when it comes to assessing and discussing Forever. It's all or nothing with these morons.
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>>581571612
ok but belves are still sd why's everyone so up in arms about them
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are you guys having fun
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>>581566885
I'm not even interested in playing this time, I just want to laugh at the people who do
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>>581571345
>not rolling on rp realm
If you don't engage with elwynn sex pests it is the most comfy way to play wow
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>>581571680
Every single guard since Shadowlands has the generic "I'll mark it on your map" text for every single option.
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>>581571685
they are not SD. If you can't tell the difference between SD and HD player models then you are cooked.
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>>581571340
That was Metzen's original vision, they just didn't have a horn sample in sound library
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>"It's fun!"
>for some reason they can't point out what's fun in the game
Interesting
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>>581571680
Unless it increases engagement metrics retail devs sees no value in it
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this beta is making me hate NA players
how the fuck are so many of you faggots in asmons guild?
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>>581571334
Fun is a buzzword for people who don’t know what they like and can’t specify where their enjoyment comes from.
It’s the low iq morons cope, and every shills favourite “coverall” go to positive attribute.
>ip range Blocked for abuse for not sucking blizzards cock on /vg/
4chan is over, hiroyuki sold out to the fucking corporate narrative control people.
>>581571684
Yikes, blizzard shills are not subtle with their narrative control posts anymore…
I shouldn’t be surprised I guess, I couldn’t post even vaguely negative memes during D4 launch either…
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>hall of thanes is the alliance equivalent of RFC
>ruins of lordaeron is the horde equivalent of deadmines, I guess?
Then what's the point of WC? What about Stockades? Methinks they should increase the level of RoL.
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>>581571656
If Forever is a great success the jealous Retail fucks will try to leave like rats the sinking ship and join the Forever Team, eventually demaning more and more Retail Features until Forever will become Retail, only following a slighty different timeline with more and new characters to butcher (Imagine Retail writers having a chance to write Arthas at the peak of his power)
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>>581571693
it's diminishing due to sovless revelations
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>>581571741
ok but who cares? if you want pure classic just...play classic? its right there
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>>581571780
>increases engagement metrics
WE'RE FUCKING CATTLE!!!
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Why would anyone not have transmog turned off on a PvP server? You're actively putting yourself at a disadvantage if you have transmog on
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>>581571514
This has actually bugged me for so long, I remember in tbc every time I made a blood elf I enjoyed reading the guards lines when I got to silvermoon since they were so snobby about anything non magic or paladin related, you'd do something like ask them where the mining trainer is and they'd tell you you look like the kind of person to roll around in the dirt all day, retail has no personality it's so bland and sterilized
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>>581570223
>Alliance: Gnome for every applicable DPS
>Horde: Orc for everything
It's literally that simple. If you want to be a sweatlord, go either of those. Everything else is worse so it's just personal choice at that point, since you're already willingly not picking the best.
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>>581571798
how do i become as cool and smart as you?
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>>581568861
How does someone recover from extra skin like this?
Only way I could think about is surgery, at which point you will inevitably look like some FtM tranny.
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>>581571794
>americans are soulless golems following pro-israel streamer
crazy, I am so surprised
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>>581571798
>Fun is a buzzword for people who don’t know what they like and can’t specify where their enjoyment comes from.
>It’s the low iq morons cope, and every shills favourite “coverall” go to positive attribute.
Makes sense.
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>>581571345
My dorf priest.
He's a fan of lagers
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>>581567363
The 2% should stack, I recall moving quicker in stealth than my friend when we both had sprint up. There's a new stats menu that shows movement speed so it would be easy to test again
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>>581571484
>non whites don't understand the concept of fun
grim
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>>581571907
>rapist face
based
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>>581571852
Literally the only gear that matters to know about in PvP you can't see anyways, which are trinkets. You should be able to tell how geared someone is based on their health.
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>It's fun = shill
Got it
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>>581571907
he looks likes he is hung as fuck
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>>581571907
Why did you make him a pitch black nigger?
You think you're being funny anon?
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>>581571684
That's why developers need vision, you can't design a coherent video game by listening to the feedback of thousands of people who want different things.
You appeal to the core audience and never change, Retail died because it tried to pander to too many people.
A game made for everyone is a game made for no one.

Forever is being made for literally me. I'm happy with it.
If other people don't like it I want them to fuck off and play whatever makes them happy instead.
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Are chests personal the same way ores and herbs are? I swear people don't even look at them while in every other iteration seeing one turn people into lootgoblins instantly.
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>>581571854
this
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thoughts on nelf men
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>>581568014
I have constant 110ms from EU. Idk I think it's bongs who got the problems
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>>581570775
Sharding probably, also EU morning, we'll get more in the evening
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>>581571345
Double names are kino
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>>581571932
Sadly I've heard it won't stack with move speed on boots, so really all you're doing is saving 1 enchant's worth of stats.
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>I love my wife
>OK DEFINE LOVE
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>>581571656
nigga the game was made by retail devs see:
>>581566961
it's already completely sovless
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>>581572003
>Are chests personal the same way ores and herbs are
what?
ores and herbs aren't personal
what the fuck are you talking about?
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>>581572003
greens/blues get rolled if you're in a party, everything else is usually inventory clutter like food, water and greys. Potions if you're lucky
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>>581571084
>the onions doesn't know the phrase "No man's land"
grim
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>>581571345
>>581572043
The difference between these two images.
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>>581565954
World pvp is a lot of fun right now with everyone capped at 20. I know that's not really a long term selling point.
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>>581572052
>I think men and women are different
>OK DEFINE THE CHROMOSOMES
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>>581571345
>add double names after 22 years
>forget to add apostrophes even though damn near every single elf in the game has an apostrophe in their name
What the fuck bro. Why does Final Fantasy have apostrophes, but we don't?
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>>581572023
The new Male Nelf model is pretty good. Way better than the OG one.
And its the exact opposite for human guys. Whoever designed the new human model 10 years ago is a mumbling moron.
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>>581571794
>skim thru asmon's stream
>4 hours of doomscrolling
>2 hours in sw asking for gold and customizing tabard
this is good for alliance btw
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>>581572125
Bottom are fun names. Top is just edgy for the sake of being edgy knowing the character will be banned
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>>581572052
>implying people like that even know what it feels like
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I reported this painting to Blizzard because it's a bug and shouldn't be in the game. It sexualizes marginalized groups, which is problematic.
My tweet about it already going viral with over 30 impressions, so Blizzard will take this situation seriously.
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>>581572052
>>581572135
>can't tell what's fun
>meltdown
Shills every single time.
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With so many retail players flooding into Forever, I see this all over my feed. So many people asking for retail-like QoL features, like shared tagging and so on.

But this mode was deliberately and explicitly stated to be in "spirit of Vanilla". So if you're asking something to be changed AWAY from that and towards "modern" gameplay, just shut the fuck up, please.

"Classic Andys" also don't go around retail sub asking Midnight to be closer to Vanilla and that flying or heroics are stupid and should be changed.

I have nothing against suggestions, but given there are more retail players than classic in general, soon these suggestions will overwhelm the subs and the game will start slowly moving back towards retail again if we don't push back.

If you didn't like vanilla, if you don't like the inconveniences and the immersion-over-convenience game design, Forever is not (primarily) for you.
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Is there any way to get the map & quest log like vanilla instead of this
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on release
can i just level an undead to 40
get the mount

then use that mount on an alliance character?
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>>581567289
Im a journey enjoyer.
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ngl bros, I like the way my owlbear looks
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>>581571814
They'll make Kael'Thas and Arthas gay for each other.
Truly a horrific thought.
Clay Stone seems like he can tell them to fuck off, but if they outnumber him we might be fucked.
>Lets add flying, it'll be great!
>Let's add LFR, it'll be great!
>Don't you think they'll love Dungeon +!
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THE ALLIANCE STANDS WITH ASMON AND WE SAY NO TO HATE
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>>581572239
bro it's literally retail what are you yapping about
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Next they are going to blame private servers.
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>>581572239
>>If you didn't like vanilla, if you don't like the inconveniences and the immersion-over-convenience game design, Forever is not (primarily) for you.
Wrong tagging should be implemented
Forever is wow 2.0
Its not retail nor is it classic

It should get qol retail got over the past decades
>>581572273
That video its 10 years ago
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>>581572269
Anduin and Wrathion should have fucked after MoP when Anduin was still a cute twink
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>>581570927
My wifey did say she was going down to Ashenvale but that's only for hunting them anon!
https://litter.catbox.moe/gf1tau.jpg
>>581570969
You can't treat her like that, she wouldn't like that
https://litter.catbox.moe/mxnyv8.jpg
>>581571018
Stop spying
https://litter.catbox.moe/08t5cy.jpg
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>>581570775
it's 4 am anon
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>>581572049
That's still cool, extra benefit. You also get the 1% dodge, 1 stealth level (more powerful than before) and the massive 10% on demand crit and meld. Nelfies eating good, everyone is so focused on gnomes right now
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>mentally ill faggot dh jeet spammer posts here as well now
https://raider.io/characters/us/moon-guard/Duskwrath
fuck off faggot
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>>581572406
I thought everybody would be pulling all nighters, atleast I am
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>>581572360
slop her husband in the cuck chair again...
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I come to you in my hour of need.
Where the fuck is Mountaineer Stoneanvil, I need his fucking rifle.
I swear I’ve been all over this fucking zone spamming my target macro. I’m about to out level the damn quest.
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>>581572232
You are so fucking autistic it is not even funny
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Shared tagging will never happen because it's antithetical to the game design particularly so in hardcore.
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>>581572443
Our turf now.
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alliance players are the cutest :3 join the alliance!!
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>>581572449
I work graveyards so I have an excuse for being awake this late on my nights off, but that's not most
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>>581572349
Anduin isn't gay, he just has a thing for dragons.
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>>581572501
sorry i dont like cages
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>>581572443
Retoilet is over there
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>new UI!
>updated models!
>QoL improvements!
>easy gearing!
>soloable content!
>layering!
>no GM's!
>fly hacking!
>bots!
>streamers!
>cheevos!
>transmog!
>store mounts!
>gearscore!
>right click report!

retail trannies BTFO'd! us classic+ chads finally got the version of the game we've always wanted! they better not come over and play /our game/ and demand any kind of retail changes.
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im kinda worried about pvp being super bursty with all the new gears they're givng people
hope pvp isnt completely ignored like in sod
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>people want this back
Lmao no
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>>581572501
is that a guy or a girl
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>>581572449
It’s beta and level capped. No one is blowing their vacation to no-life the beta, they’ll save it for November.
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>>581572360
It's too early for this man...
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>>581572571
>thinks they'll consider his minigame at all when designing anything
lol
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>>581572614
they are hecking valid in any case
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>>581572614
its a girl(guy)
she mostly wears a chastity cage
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>>581572584
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v
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>>581572614
if you can't tell you've already lost
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>>581572614
when in doubt, it is always a dude
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>>581572553
>>new UI!
toggle it
>>updated models!
toggle it
>>QoL improvements!
toggle it
>>easy gearing!
toggle it
>>soloable content!
toggle it
>>layering!
toggle it
>>no GM's!
toggle it
>>fly hacking!
toggle it
>>bots!
toggle it
>>streamers!
toggle it
>>cheevos!
toggle it
>>transmog!
toggle it
>>store mounts!
toggle it
>>gearscore!
toggle it
>>right click report!
toggle it
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>>581572360
>she wouldn't like that
Image says otherwise
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>>581570223
>Tauren not even listed
It's so over
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>my cock in your ass
toggle it
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Whenever I watch Asmon's stream, he never looks like he's actually enjoying the game. If anything, he looks fucking miserable, even with his flock of goys carrying him through everything.
Does anyone else get that vibe, or am I reading too much into it?
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>>581572793
ive never seen anyone having fun playing wow
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>>581572793
hes not even online
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They've removed the cancer kid tauren
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Please tell me launch will actually bring in the Classic models instead of this reskinned retail model thing please. They made my favorite face absolutely pig disgusting.
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>>581572501
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tired of streamers glazing this pile of garbage desu
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>>581572862
That kid must be 30+ by now
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>biggest retail shill of all time loves it
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>>581572793
Hard to enjoy life when you're an orphaned dysgenic loser who's accomplished nothing in life other than showing how disgusting you are to strangers online and sucking off Israel.
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>>581572862
holy based
fuck kyle that stupid dog
kyle is not a worlo wowa approved name
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>>581572529
>>581572678
Fair, I should do the same or else the launch wont be as fresh
>>581572464
https://litter.catbox.moe/uvr13m.jpg
>>581572683
There's always time for her
https://litter.catbox.moe/smh707.jpg
>>581572767
It's AI or something idk
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>>581572793
I get the vibe that you're a faggot, mostly
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>pedo nelf porn ai slop spammer is now posting here
get a fucking trip please
fucking smelly AI abomination
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POST THE DISCORD
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interdasting
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does anyone have a spare key? my friend wants to play
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Brown wow players btfo
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>>581573003
the FUCK
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>>581572793
He has to play now since his videos are getting over one million views, it's literally free money

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4P8DsT_bLUw
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>>581573041
Is your friend cute and good at EPR?
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>>581572793
He's sort of like those people that peaked in highschool and can only talk about that, but instead of being popular or sleeping around he played video games.
Now he just tries to get back that feeling again but it's not reachable.
All of the money in the world can't make him fulfilled
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>>581573003
imagine how fucking cool some underwater dungeon would be where you go in with a submarine deeprun tram style.
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>>581572793
He's depressed, anyone with any level of emotional IQ can see that he's detached.
He doesn't believe in anything, not even in the politics he pushes, doesn't genuinely enjoy anything, doesn't smile. His laughs, his "engagement" to any kind of content, all of it is forced and typical of someone who's completely nihilistic on the inside.
His viewers are too subhuman IQ to notice any of this though.
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>>581572793
He hasn't been not miserable for several years now. His mom dying was the first punch and then his dad was the KO.
Maybe the OTK bullshit + his one true passion in life, WOW turning to absolute, complete dogshit garbage was the actual first punch, but the death of his parents completely broke him.
He's been super jaded about everything and is just constantly angry under a surface of shitposting and keeping up face for the stream.
That genuine excitement and fun from 2019 is entirely gone.
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>>581573003
Is this new?
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>be me
>retardlet cant into combo points
>always energy starved

should give rogue a try?
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>>581572862
He wasn't even there until TBC.
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I'm done but I had fun, I've decided what I'm playing etc and set my UI and keybinds up. I'm only level 17 with a level 10 alt but I kinda feel like quitting here so I'm more excited for the actual launch, no way I'm playing through this entire beta period
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>>581573003
Oceangate reference?
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>>581573087
Sounds like the most of the classic players if not all of them are just like him.
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>>581573078
yes, you can lovense her
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THEY REMOVED THE BOOB PHYSICS AHHHHHH MY FEMNELF CANT JIGGLE
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>>581572541
Anduin had a good thing going for him and we adventurers ruined it.
No wonder he fucked off to Exodar to hang out with the Draebaes for years after that.
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>Have to sign a good boy pledge to play the game
>Body type 1 and 2 not just male and female
Jesus. How fucking cucked did this game get since I quit in Cata
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>>581573218
>her
Nvm.
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>>581572793
>he never looks like he's actually enjoying the game
Because he isn't. Classic 2019 was entertaining for a bit, because it was the first "fresh" in WoW since 2004.
Now the same old "inv to Asmon layer" memes are overdone and not organic.
You can clearly tell how "the magic's gone" in his case.
He'll play it for a few weeks then go back to fulltime Xitter/youtube reacting.
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>>581573129
And now 4chan bullies him for losing his parents or how his face or mouth looks like
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>>581573139
On release, yes, rogues are a braindead class in vanilla, unless you want to PvP.
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>>581572793
He has a self inflicted suffering syndrome where the years of /pol/ slowly warps your personality into hating everything and you can only find joy in hating things
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>>581572938
>who's accomplished nothing in life
He became a milionarie playing your same game
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>>581573252
it's a trans
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>>581573161
someone would have to be psychotic to play through the entire beta month
I'm going to go explore a bunch of zones now that my hunter is 20, then I'll level a priest to 20, then I'm done until level cap increases where I'll basically just repeat the process
I've seen people trying to run Stockades already to get the ring but I really don't see the point in a beta
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>accidentally tick the "bug" box while delivering a quest that wasn't bugged
>now I'll get banned for false reporting
it's over for me...
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>>581573301
but i could never jiggle cobo points in wotlk
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>>581573139
Gnome gets extra energy and reduced energy costs (every few minutes), sounds even easier to learn.
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>>581570273
based
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>>581567297
Because the arcane corrupts. That used to be the lore before Blizzard kind of forgot. And it's also ONE of the many reasons night elves outlawed the use of arcane.
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>>581573317
Even worse.
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>>581571185
>mazed
is this a new word or is there like a new maze dungeon in retail that gives super BIS shit or something
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>>581573003
That's the gnomish submarine from WC2
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Skywatcher Plateau in Mulgore is fucking kino.
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>>581573331
no one reads those reports
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>>581573374
has 2 both reproductive organs
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>>581572501
>huge manly hands and feet
every single fucking time
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when can i leave the skyborne starting zone as a druid? can i learn cleanse poison in the night elf area as normal if i leave after getting bear form?
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anyone tried survival hunter? is it still meme or actual works full melee this time? seems shit with 2 parry/dodge skill
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>>581573310
So what? Being rich doesn't lead to a successful life.
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>make my standard cute rural priest girl
>retoiletards and other hd spergs will see this pig disgusting thing
What the fuck man? Can we suggest to Blizzard that they add model toggles to the layering system so I never have to interact with HD fags? Hell, even if only 10,000 players choose SD and millions choose HD I'd rather play with the 10,000 because at least I know I'll be with autist gamers instead of casual trannies/dads.
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they..........they changed femnelf german voice bros
its not lara croft anymore
what the FUCK is going on
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>>581573310
>he thinks having any amount of money can ever compensate for being handsome and physically fit

You are either young, ugly, or both.
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why are the mobs in the new elf starting area fucking ZOOMING? it's annoying as shit
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>>581573324
I didn’t play Vanilla or any version of Vanilla and will be taking this opportunity to learn to tank (and learn how to learn a dungeon).
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>>581573324
I'm not gonna even level a char to "max", I was just checking some new features and quests out and getting a gameplay feel. But yeah, how was hunter and (and priest if you started it?) I'm interested in both of those as an alt. Druid feels somewhat similiar to classic except wrath seems to do even less damage albeit at a reduced mana cost, and feral combat is a weapon skill now (I don't recall this being a thing)
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>>581570273
Nooo the internet must validate my choice of class in a video game :(
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>>581573161
>I'm only level 17 with a level 10 alt but I kinda feel like quitting here
Same I leveled my warrior up to a decent point and some alts and I kinda know what to play for actual launch. Playing anymore here will definitely take away from the experience
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Info about the new touch of the grave
>no, it is not a direct copy of the retail version
>it only has a 1s icd
>it's damage and healing is exactly 5% of your hp
>it deals shadow damage
>warrior/rogue/paladin is a 5% proc but mage/warlock/priest is a 10% proc
>it can proc off basic attacks and wands
>it does not proc from dot dmg but can proc from the initial application of a dot spell
>it can proc off non-damaging spells like curse of weakness
>it cannot proc off pet damage or thorns effects
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>>581573451
that's fucking dire
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>>581572935
he was mindraped into submission by the russian girl that makes videos talking about wow aesthetics
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>>581573382
What goes on there? Are there any quests? I wandered up there while killing harpies and there wasn't much of anything beyond an Earthen Ring camp and a ship to (I assume) the sky elf area.
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>>581573451
Retoilets will genuinely think it looks better than the original model anyway don't worry about it anon
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>>581572584
the classic human male unironically has better facial hair than the wod model which looks like plasticine. it's kind of insane that the wod models are rarely a straight upgrade. pretty much every single race has multiple trade offs where some aspect of their classic model is superior. not to mention there's dozens of classic faces that have no real wod equivalent. there's also just tons of stuff they fucked up and never fixed with the model rework. undead weps clip through their cloaks, gnomes are missing eyebrows, fem draenei pony tail is fucked etc.

whenever someone glazes the HD models as totally superior in all regards i can just always tell it's someone with no taste who has no attention to detail.
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>>581573451
What I did was keep toggling the SD/HD thing until I find something that looks good in both, it's a bit annoying but I like putting in the extra effort. Gnomes are completely cursed though there's no way I can accomplish anything of the sort with them.
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>>581573451
Bro use the SMALL face option are you retarded????
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So it'll be dead by the end of the weekend won't it? Till the next gate gets opened. I am glad people are testing this but this shit is way to close to release for such an unfinished mess. I doubt people will even notice because of "OMG FRESHIE SERVER WOWEE ZOWEE!!". Truly does feel like a private server hosted by Blizzard themselves. Even down to the standard "Paladin is super OP".
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>>581573345
Just go combat with swords and spend all your combo points on Slice and Dice. You'll do more damage than 50% of rogues that try to be smart about it. Press Blade Flurry on CD, and now you're doing more damage than 80% of rogues. It's that simple.
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>>581573284
He's on 4chan every day, most definitely on /pol/ and now since the Forever thing has been going on, here in the /wowfg/ threads.
He's said many times over the years that he's used to browse 4chan some time ago. We all know very well that once you get here, there's no going away.
He knows all the lingo, memes and shitposting we do here and on /pol/ and is exactly the kind of edgy loner to stick around.
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>>581572793
did mossad forget the check this month
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>>581573436
if it's going to work it won't work until level 32 because that's when you get all the talents that enable it
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>>581573527
>polymorph
>it applies TOTG and breaks poly
undead mages btfo
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>>581573451
i constantly see cursed HD characters for gnomes and humans, are there just some unfortunate faces that don't match them well or are they all fucked?
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when do they add death knights?
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>>581573451
What I did was make my model the best possible way I could make HD models look, then i swapped to SD to make sure it didn't pick a grandma face. I'm settling, but most of the classic models look pretty good regardless and I don't mind using something slightly worse than my favorite rather than knowing millions of people are going to see the ugliest fucking retoilet shit imaginable.
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>>581573284
>And now 4chan bullies him for losing his parents
no? we just say he killed his mother by setting her on fire
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>HD water
>everything else 3 pixels max
yuck
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>>581573451
No I wont cater to classic autists when I make my chars. Fuck off
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>>581572793
The only times I've seen him genuinely happy have been when he's playing with McConnell
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>>581573527
is it on a proc per minute or an actual proc chance?
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>>581573679
The problem with cursed faces is unironically the "Face form" slider people are using fat which makes everyone look like they're black

Use SLENDER ffs
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>>581573527
what about channeling spells like missiles, drainlife,mind flay etc
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>>581573451
Allytroons taking the L with HD textures is so fucking kino and funny. You faggots 10000% deserve it
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>>581573654
Something that will get fixed but still funny that it ended up working like that
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>>581573129
At least he got his state sponsored chinese spy gf
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>>581573716
this is for you

https://www.reddit.com/r/wowforever/comments/1wk9fiy/cinematic_ultra_config_tweak_guide_with_heavy_snow/
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>>581573527
>it does not proc from dot dmg
That settles it then. UD is pretty shit for Locks/Spriests.
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>>581573003
That was always there
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>SD is so much better guys i swear!
>pigging ensues
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>>581573679
HD models are horrible, they don't match the wow art style at all.
If you think the faces are bad, look at the run animations, every character looks like they're skipping while running.
I can't believe the fucking streamers were the ones that made SD models in Forever possible
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>>581573792
>reddit
YUST TUOGGLE IT OFF
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>>581573546
There looks to be a cave up the back of the area surrounded by spider webs. Maybe part of an end zone quest in mulgore. But it's just a comfy little area to relax.
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>>581573738
It's an actual proc chance

>>581573742
It can only apply on the initial cast of channel spells
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>>581573760
Fem undead + orcs look shyte as well
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>>581573679
>>581573869
They will drop SD model support in a year or two.
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>bro SD is the way to go!
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The type of shit a wow player does
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newfag here would the RP realm be a good choice for a beginner ? not looking to disrupt anyone's peace just a comfy place to play at
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Toggle it off bro!
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>Don't mind the HD look
>Hate the stupid run animation

Guess we're going old school
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>>581573706
>asmon criticize the game some way
>bullies ignore this and instantly bring up his mom and how he killed her to the topic when no one is talking about it
That's bullying.
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>>581573376
streamer word
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>>581573928
Zendaya?
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>>581573926
By then retail devs will have infested it and it will be dead anyway.
I'm just here to have fun until then.
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>>581573114
Not just that that. Anyone with an ounce of soul would quit their acting job and go and live their life spending their millions (if he really has that much). He clearly has a lot of issues
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>>581573954
yes
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>>581573527
This should have some kind of effect when healing
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>>581573954
all realms are comfy, even pvp
i was new when anni came out and i played on pvp and had a blast
99% of players dont know what theyre doing either and it's fun
i recommend pvp because it really adds to the world having horde or alliance players gank you
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>>581573949
There's nothing wrong with the women here at all, it's all the enabling simps fault. If no one paid she wouldn't be able to do this
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Not even memeing but does anyone use a foot pedal for gaming? Was thinking of getting one for FPS leans but now thinking of using it for WoW and putting Trinkets/CDs on them.

Thoughts?
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>>581573114
>>581574042
He's the prime example of
>Past a certain age, a man without a family can be a bad thing
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>>581572793
The guilt of killing his mother weighs on him as it should.
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>>581574136
lol
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>>581573527
Is it good though? I don't know if 5% of your health is enough damage to be noticeable, either at low level where you've got like 100 hp (5 damage) or a few thousand hp at 60 (~150 damage)

Reliable 10% crit or 10% damage (nelf, gnome) sounds a lot stronger. And those races have other racials too (+5 energy for Gnome, +MS & Dodge for nelf)
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This game has so many hurdles to get around. But 90% of them are actually building your character. It's very satisfying.
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>>581573954
rp is the most comfy zero pressure choice
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>>581573792
Why would anyone want the barrens to he coated in a carpet of grass wtf
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>>581574183
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8a9K7CDYVAc
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>>581574123
Don’t enable these fucking whores, they are both at fault here
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>>581574218
false, the meta has already been stablished everythings been datamined
good riddance lmao
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>>581574160
his family would end up hating him and becoming estranged, like musk
you can't run from yourself
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>>581560307
how does any sane person look at this and say that right is better?
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>>581574136
Foot pedal for while mounted?
Kino
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>>581574136
i play hunter with a steering wheel
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>>581574254
see>>581573928
>>581573868
how does any sane person say SD is better
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>>581573706
>>581574007
>>581574167
It just keeps happening
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>No Mercenary system for pve and pvp yet in Fow
I want to betray the Horde and start banging Night Elf whores already FUCK YOU BLIZZARD
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>>581574294
look at the boobs m8
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>>581570341
how do you read all the text on a couch? Did they change the text UI so it's larger on tvs?
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Did you shave your anus and taken your hrt today anon? gotta be sure you remain loyal to goycraft
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>>581574330
you should be 25-35 by now and grown up
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>>581574123
> If no one paid she wouldn't be able to do this
Read Julius Evola, the "mass" will never follow this rule.
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>>581574328
you dont have to betray the horde to do that
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>>581574230
Dried, yellow grass, knee or waist level, like in the savanna that Barrens represents? Its a mystery
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>>581573949
I understand the practice but not the price. You could get a harem of prime 20yo eastern european for days for those prices.
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why does the game run so shittily
did they really think that making the game run worse than actual modern games was worth it for their retarded lighting and fog
game runs at less fps for me than re9
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>>581574328
>not strong enough to capture his own nelf sex slave
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>>581560307
Is there anyone who actually uses the "HD" retail models? They're so much worse than the classic models it isn't even funny.
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i cant seem to make an old man paladin
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>>581573451
I hate this new trend were the first option is the after

left looks way better retard
classic faggots lose again
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>>581574167
he killed his mom?
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>>581574247
She wants to make money and get ahead in life, that's what everyone else is doing. Sex is fucking free. If you engage with this shit you're retarded as fuck
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>>581574389
No but I want to. Fuck the Horde, Thrall's Green Nigger contraband has been devastating for Kalimdor and the Tauren civilization.
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>>581574392
Nah it still doesn't fit
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You know what? Maybe I don't mind Skelves after all..
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>>581573928
Okay, now show that gnome's HD appearance.
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Is increasing the UI scale still the only way of increasing the size of the quest text, without addons?
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>>581574407
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liara_Roux
Yeah, she’s 35 years old and autistic, plus she’s genderqueer…..
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>>581574118
Don't listion to this brown handed nigger trying to find another victim to corpse camp. Nothing about PvP servers is "comfy". Any "comfy" you feel is the early peace you get in friendly territory. By the time you reach Neutral areas you've committed to much to swap to a another realm. The place you stupidly decided to play on has level 60s killing you on sight for no reward besides the feeling of misguided revenge from when they were you're lower level being insta killed all in some circular form of abuse.
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>>581574418
Post screenshot of your beta character
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>>581573527
>it's damage and healing is exactly 5% of your hp
That's weird considering the "up to".

Rogue, double alcor's, snd, hemo, improved poisons, thousand cuts would result in 3 attacks per second. A proc every 6.67 seconds on average. Not quite enough unfortunately. Need more haste.
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>>581573904
>It's an actual proc chance
Oh that changes things quite a bit.
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Riverglades is an enormous zone
this is like a second STV hopefully the questing is good here
I kind of wish the level was higher but I guess I can't see the level of non-neutral mobs, we need more stuff 40-50 not 35-40
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>>581574547
>By the time you reach Neutral areas you've committed to much to swap to a another realm.
Nigger it takes like 1 day to reach 20 lmao
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>>581574467
I’m 94% jewish and even this is too jewish for me
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>>581574493
I still hate their multicolored hair tbqh and every time I see a blue or black one with tattoos and small ears and blind purple eyes with transflag colored feathers I'm going to punch my monitor
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>>581574524
Have you tried getting glasses?
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>>581574425
that's a cool looking warrior anon
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>>581574493
this doesnt look very kosher
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>>581573949
You must learn to become a better man.
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>>581572953
This bitch needs to be impregnated by a human or demon. Otherwise the baby will come out looking like neither of the parents. She's much too inconsiderate and reckless
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>>581574547
you're brown
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>>581573949
>must be circumcised
>this is not paying me for sex btw just a nice dinner night out
lol
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>>581574534
>Liara Roux is an American author, sex worker, pornography director, internet personality and sex workers' rights activist.[1][2]
aka will give you the most boring bj of your life
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>>581574626
it's 35-45
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why are "gamers" talking about growing up? do you not realize how dumb this sounds, you're playing video games dude, no adult plays video games
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>>581574704
>man doesnt get what he wants in life
>he is expected to improve
>woman doesnt get what she wants in life
>men are expected to improve
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>>581574456
Primarily out of being retarded. She was on an oxygen tank and he bought her cigarettes.
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>>581574626
>hopefully the questing is good here
what do you mean questing?
its literally
>kill 10 x
>find 5 x
ALL the way
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>>581574349
Text is hard to read if you don't have good vision, unfortunately, I hope they'll make it larger when you switch UI to gamepad mode, just how they did it with some plates.
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>>581574757
This isn’t the damn 90s, unc, everyone fucking plays games
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>>581574704
>my smile said
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I am sorry to say it but I am excited
even though I fear powercreep in early levels will be insane and shits too easy
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>>581574784
Such is the way of the better man
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>>581574493
Only good for starter zone gooning, shit racials, the blue ones look bad and they lack the best white skinshades too.
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>>581574757
>you're playing video games dude, no adult plays video games
lol that ragebait would've flown 30 years ago
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>>581574572
>That's weird considering the "up to".
It's damage can still be lowered by anything that lowers damage on the target.
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>>581574754
okay that makes sense
going to be bouncing between STV and Riverglades for like 12 levels
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Is it just me or is no one chatting random shit on /s?
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>>581574865
you speak like a milkdrinker who has never gone raiding the enemy lands
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>>581572360
finally some butt shots thank you
>>
Literally no normal working adult plays video games
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>>581573949
insane that no one has beheaded her yet, but I suppose if you're paying a woman 6 grand to hang out with you, you're too much of a pussy to even kill her when she acts like this.
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>>581575010
Nothing in this world is normal
I'd rather be an outcast
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>Thorns buffed from 18 to 22
We're going home
>Imp Thorns removed
It's over
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>>581575063
it's normal if you aren't a weird freak, nature is nature
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>>581574943
it's pretty nice
38-43 are annoying levels unless you did multiple runs of SM
>>
how often do they send out waves of beta invites to the penniless plebeians who only clicked opt in on the website?
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>>581574195
>as a Rogue, ~5 procs a minute on average (assuming a simple 100 attacks a minute)
>if you had 5k health, it's 250 damage + healing per proc (1,250 per minute)
>+20.8 DPS / HPS
I don't know, sounds kind of shit. I won't bother doing the napkin math for other racials but I imagine they're better than 20 DPS.
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>>581572614
Yes
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>>581575031
>behead
Easy there, Mohammad. Im sure a good beat down would suffice, let’s not get too crazy.
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>>581575134
Why would they do that when they have millions of people willing to spend $60
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>>581575134
First wave is probably in a week or something, they need to make the paypiggies think they got their moneys worth
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>>581574865
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If we're on a megaserver how does the AH work...is it just one big megaAH?
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>no beta key
>log in to tbc anniversary
>utterly dead
wow, a beta literally nuked the entire player base. millions of dads with no solace in their lives..
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>>581575010
Dadgamer guilds prove you wrong.
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>>581575212
Yes (but that's a good thing!)
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This man walks up to you and smacks your GF on the ass. Your response?
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>>581575267
get that thong out yo bussy, playa
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>>581575267
sorry sissynig, my nelf GF is for Orcs and Tauren men only
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>>581575202
Well obviously I meant a console at home, nintentoddlers are a different breed
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>>581575237
hardcore still seems about the same playerwise
dont know why tho
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>>581575146
I did. The only one that comes up higher is human with sword.
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>>581575267
i sure hope they dont add any gay retail shit to forever
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>>581574123
calling a paying customer a school shooter type with little prompting is pretty unprofessional.
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>>581575267
my gf will proceed to gape him
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>>581573928
>>581573868
Classic fags and their obsession with inferior things is fascinating. I really hope they update the world mobs to updated models, shit looks so ASS
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>>581570542
It's pvp launch, nobody wants PvE
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>>581575267
NTR into full feminization (me) and drug abuse arc, bad ending
>>
lots of roastis in this board
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>>581573527
>it's damage and healing is exactly 5% of your hp
Fucking retarded, I hope they change it

>>581575146
dps+self healing
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>>581575267
go to ashenvale and get a new gf
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>>581575267
Think they are even trying to work on a Classic model for skelves or are we stuck having to see this type of shit? Hell I'd be happy if they just straight up turn into tbc belves.
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engiebros...
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>>581575146
20 health or damage does sound shit, but it's worth remembering it's not just a consistent dps increase, it comes in bursts.
Extra bursts and restoring 5% of your health occasionally will feel nice.
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>>581575504
you dont understand they paid $30 so you're forced to look at their HD model that's what they paid for
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>>581575504
they are not going to make SD models for every new race they cook up.
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>>581575339
Based
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SOUL!!! just like 2003
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>>581573949
>$1500 bare minimum just to be in this 5/10’s presence for an hour
We need the patriarchy reinstalled badly. Bitches like this should be publicly flogged and beaten into correction.
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Average HD model enjoyir
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>>581575362
fr fr?
I am mildly retarded but I find it hard to believe that Gnomes, Orcs and Nelves don't have stronger racials, smarter people than I all rank Undead as the weakest new race.
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>Skelves fight a deity at the end of starter island

Fire all modern writers
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>>581575660
Dreadful to see but atleast I know none of this shit will matter in any aspect of the game
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>>581575660
>mage is S tier
is that right
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>>581575703
thats my gf
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>>581575384
school shooter types need to be bullied for them to make a change in their lives. I suppose you relate to him in someway?
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>>581575660
Anyone who uses these unironically are NGMI tourists who quit at level 14
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people are making videos of the new dungeons and where to get their respective Dungeon Quests, nice
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>>581574969
https://litter.catbox.moe/tdqerr.jpg
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>>581575339
No she's for proud nationalistic Kul Tiran rednecks with a fat liver and a fat cock
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>>581574425
I do but only for skelves
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>>581575703
>average Indian cuck
Elon should have never given these monkeys satellite internet
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>tier lists for dungeons that are 3-mannable
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AI porn fatigue
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>>581575703
black tauren bvll pov
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>>581573949
>Paid by the amount of time
>Health and testing records must be up to date
>Must be circumcised
>Costs thousands of dollars
"You pay for me to have dinner with you and we might even have sex if the mood takes me teehee" is such an obvious front for prostitution it isn't even funny. That guy should have been WAY more fucking angry that he got fucking scammed.

If I jumped through all those fucking hoops and gave that bitch upwards of six grand for sex and she wound up going by the exact word of the agreement and just left after the dinner that I paid for without letting me fuck her, I would have been so fucking pissed. I wouldn't have fought with her about it, but I would have let it be known that her escort service is a fucking scam.
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>rolling a warrior
>on a pvp server
absolutely not falling for this miserable shit again. not a fucking chance
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>>581575660
Anyone who uses AI slop tier lists that scrape reddit for their "info" deserve the fruits of whatever they decide upon.
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>>581575796
I'll see you at 60 and enjoy using these tips
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>>581575517
>every melee dps won't be obligated to level engineering and buy a stack of these before every raid
>this is somehow a bad thing
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>>581575517
>do a big pull of several enemies in a raid
>everyone runs in and uses their goblin sappers
>instagib the pull
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>>581575916
Hello
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I preferred the wholesome Sky Elf slopper over this /wowg/ fag
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>>581575962
you don't understand. i don't want to brick my account and fall behind. i need to be told what to play
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>>581574220
>>581574118
>>581574045
thanks for your replies anon ill be trying it out on launch its too bad RP-PVP isnt a thing for now
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>>581573868
>Look, the designated ugly face is even uglier in SD!
If anything, that's more points to SD.
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>>581575930
but you will definitely become like High Warlord Pat the Tauren Warrior this time!
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>>581575791
holy projection
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Do you like Alliance or Horde and why do you like your faction? I'm torn between the two because I'm indecisive and need validation to make decisions. On one hand, I think blue elves are canonically Horde (the shamans specifically) and they're hot. On the other hand, night elves, humans and gnomes are hot. White Human Male Paladin seems pretty based. Idk what to choose!
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>>581576075
Okay, play classic then
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>>581576097
horde races, cities and town are ugly mud huts and ruins
its just depressing
>>
Mining nodes doesn't make the noise
Horde blue elves speak darnassian their chat doesn't show up in English to people of same faction in their starting zone
Dumb game
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>>581575807
>videos
Give me a written article with pictures instead
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>>581576097
shes waiting for her black Tauren bullfriends...
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>>581576017
There are new throwable potions that I don't think require any proffs to throw that are much more damage than old sappers, but they're all over time
From what I've seen so far the differences between Engineering in classic and Engineering in Forever is some slight upgrades to the guns you can make and a huge nerf to Sappers
So the only real reason to be Engineering anymore is rocket boots and gliders I think? Maybe there is more down the line
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>>581575846
god Bwonsamdi was the only good thing to come out of bfa
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>>581576097
horde cities in general are just inferior and a lot of undead players especially are insufferable. I do like playing orcs and trolls though, but I always lean a bit towards alliance since I can't stop playing nelf for some reason
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lol just saw one of you retards in <wowfg>
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>>581576097
I prefer the Alliance races and aesthetic and I like wearing shoes so I can't play Tauren or Troll
However, Horde seem to have a better community and will defend each other in world pvp while 5 alliance players will leave you to get 3v1.
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>>581576263
Was it me?
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>>581576097
Alliance because it has shoes
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>>581576304
no it was ME
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any EU wowfg guilds?
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>>581576251
Durotar and even the fabled Barrens chat are always pretty laid back and chill unless they get on a politics kick, other races in either faction really can't compare, I've never been entertained by random talk in other race low level areas like orc/troll/tauren have.
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>>581576097
Horde are subhumans, only Tauren players are cool.
Go for human male or dwarf and nothing else.
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>>581576304
it might have been
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>>581575796
This game is not dying bitch, it's literally called forever. Asmonglod played it so it's legitimized. Xariu, Sodapopper, XqC, Kai Cenat, iShowSneed are all playing it and having fun. The new graphics are amazing. Everyone is happy but you, cynical old boomer man with shit PC who probably can't even run game.

Your tourist this is OUR game go back to Era unc
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Can a non-schizo please confirm or deny that you get bunch of blue items before you even hit 20?
>>
Surprising how good the content is for leveling, felt much faster hitting 20 even with the retard rush
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>>581576406
Yea crafted gear
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>>581576036
Heyy
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>>581576339
Mom said it was my turn in the spotlight...
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>>581576351
no but if it's on ally it should be named <ORCED>
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>>581576391
Tf unc yapping bout?
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>>581576097
I like both
I've ended up playing Horde over and over again because of friends being autistic about faction so I know Horde very well and could at this point do an efficient quest run 1-60 in my sleep
That makes me want to play Alliance this time but it will still depend on them
Also, Alliance flat out having better racials helps push me that way
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What professions should I go with for my priest?
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>>581576406
Crafted gear yea, haven't had a single blue item that wasn't from a dungeon quest drop
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>>581576097
All streamers are going Alliance so majority of playerbase will be alliance. Do NOT go Horde you will regret it dumbest lowest IQ gay barafag players out there
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>>581576219
engi is also good for cool gadgets like the gadgetzan/everlook teleporters or repair bots
not everything has to be a dps increase to be worth getting
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>>581576036
this is the guy I saw
Can milkthis
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undead anon, post more kino tirisfal glades screenshots so i can live vicariously thru you as i didnt get beta.
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I try chatting during camp sessions but I always get ignored. You have to sit here for a minute, don't be a bitch about it
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I am already bored bros idk
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>>581576406
If you get deep into crafting or run the low level dungeons, otherwise no. That was a shitpost by the one retard that cancelled his sub when he saw the EU lag and spent all day crawling streams instead for "proof" of everything that is wrong with Forever.
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>>581576436
me on the right
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>>581576568
im jerking off to the hotties that sit next to me
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>>581576406
More low level crafted blues and dungeons also drop plenty blues now so maybe.
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>>581576540
I'm going horde to avoid all the streamers and their followers
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>>581576585
Thanks for your 60 bucks! See in you in 2 Months
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>>581576097
>>581576540
Horde will also be full of bots because every bot will be Tauren for herb and run speed
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>>581576192
Oh, I am. I'm playing Classic+. Why don't you Retail players go play Retail?
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>>581576568
If people are bored by you, it means youre a boring person
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>beta incentivises making alts
>system/prog incentivises making alts
>people will eternally play their one role
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>>581576664
Classic+ is NOT classic little boy
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>>581576648
bots gotta sell to the alliance too though
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>>581576379
Darkshore chat is pretty good on ally, barrens is such a huge zone nothing compares though.
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I hope they replace the tauren herb racial with something else before launch
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>day 2
>people have moved on from the starting zones

quite comfy now
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WoW is truly full of pathetic submissive prime kosher conditioning
>its just classic again with some retail crap
>blizzard made millions selling 2007 skins with a blue color
lol lmao even
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>>581576548
It's potentially a big leveling speed loss not having a different crafting profession and could be a big damage loss down the line as well
Cool gadgets always existed were never the reason why people were Engineering
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>>581576715
Once again, why don't you just play Retail? WoW Midnight is out there waiting for you, anon.
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>>581576075
>>581576192
>>581576664
>>581576715
Why do retails players tell classic players to play classic, but get upset when they get told to play retail?
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>>581576082
>vocabulary consists of meme words due to being terminally online
when did you last have sex anon?
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>>581576219
to be fair rocket boots and glider are still huge advantages in pvp where the other profs really didn't compete in the past.
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>>581576810
Once again, why don't you just play classic era? It's right there!
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I want a bard class
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>>581576768
yeah until you get to westfall/barrens and it's fucked
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>>581576097
Best way to put it:

>IRL Normal people who wanna look like an edgelord in-game choose Horde
>IRL edgelords who wanna look like a normal person in-game choose alliance

Horde players tend to be the more helpful faction, especially in WPvP. Alliance always has more tourists and newfags. Gnome players in general have always been awful PvE andy metafags. Alliance will have more paladins so enjoy the soaking up all gear like they're a vacuum machine.
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>>581576620
Can you whisper me next time so I at least know please
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>>581576820
Whore, stop grilling my bro. Whores deserve to be lynched and that’s all they are good for.
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>>581576768
remember this once launch arrives, no point trying to level at the launch, just make your characters, set your ui and go to bed early
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>>581576379
>they get on a politics kick
If Forever last in 2028 it's gonna be nuts
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>>581576769
I bet not even blizzard believes that they made 300 millions + from some random beta with no servers and some blue elf LMAO
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>>581576882
i guess
>>581576945
yeah on launch i'm gonna give it 2 days ac tually
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>>581576846
Because Classic Era doesn't get updates, obviously. It's a time capsule.

However, you have a game that has been continuously updated for decades, and since its your favorite and you think all versions of the game should be more like it, I think you should go play it.
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is there an rp server in the beta? does trp3 work? ill pretty much only resub if there's a decent erp scene. otherwise i can just play retail on a trial account.
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PSA PUT INDIRECT LIGHTING TO GOOD TO GET ~20-30 FRAMES
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Is there no layering in capital cities? I thought the game performance was solid all through my starting zone experience, but I finished all the quests and got to thunderbluff and there were literally thousands of people there, all loaded in at the same time, my fps tanked to like 20-30. It was the same in ogrimar.

Like I get why you might turn off laying in cities, you want people to get that experience of seeing shit tons of people, but no computer on earth is handling this at 60+ fps. I even tried turning my graphics all the way down as low as they would go, and disabling fog, and it made zero difference on my fps.
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>>581576767
you and me both. I want to go tauren but don't give a shit about free herbs and will probably just delete/vendor any I get. Don't need that shit in my bags
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>>581576436
me holding the camera
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>>581576867
do you want combat to be a rhythm game?
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>>581576568
I'm watching my streamer on 2nd monitor stfu unc
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>>581576934
>hates women but is addicted to porn
If you actually spoke to women and started a relationship you wouldn't be such a loser. Ever think about that?
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>>581577080
>adhd
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>>581576820
stop responding to me thanks
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>>581577065
something like that, I've never seen Stormwind so congested
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>>581576436
Hey babe, meet me in ashenvale in 4 hours.
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>>581577042
where is that setting
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>>581577189
>become a slave to the system benefiting women
no ty raajesh
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>>581577189
>makes shit up
Who said I hate women?!? I only hate actual whores, not normal women. If they can’t respect themselves, then why should I?
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>>581577076
No that sounds cring and retail
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>>581577065
I'm sure there's still layering but the player cap per layer is just higher in cities. Report it and they might lower the cap for release
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>>581577272
graphics
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Should I bottled?
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Bros has Thottbot been updated with the new quests and dungeon loot yet??
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>>581577065
>oh no I don't have 60 fps in cities
Who cares? It's cool to see a lot of people. The human eye can't see past 30 fps anyways.
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>>581560307
I think asmongold is a psyop to make gamers look dirty
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>play horde
>invite people for quests
>everyone accepts
>having a great time

>play alliance
>nobody wants to group up
>nobodys talking to each other

figures
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>>581577378
no they can't afford beta keys
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>>581577287
>calling anyone else a slave when he's playing wow and on 4chan
look in the mirror
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>>581577316
>Report it and they might lower the cap for release
Why the fuck would you want this faggot?
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>>581577419
Horde is now the zoomie faction due to streamers
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>>581577419
wait until lvl 20-30 get released and wpvp gets real
You'll see allies doing nothing when their own gets killed. Unbelievably cvcked passive faction.
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>>581577010
The only people who are obsessed with classic are people who were like 10 when wow come out.
They are stunted because its the only game they played from childhood.
People who were 20+ aren't that obsessed because we remember and know you can't get the feeling back.

Now shut up you gigantic faggot you don't even play wowf.
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lmao why are trannies so butthurt about sd models?

uppity that i toggled u off tranny boy
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>>581577525
feel free to kill anyone in olympus near me
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>>581567697
Imagine being this retarded.
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>gnomes are unironically the best warriors in the game
How is this shit not gonna get nerfed - 40 fucking percent
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how different are the two faction questlines for skyborne? is it worth playing one if you played the other?

>>581577505
the biggest streamer is alliance though
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>>581577572
I am transgender and I support your SD models anon! have fun!
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>>581577525
even with overbuffed alliance passives this will happen again 100%
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>>581577419
Everyone has accepted my group invites on ally though, guess I'm just that cute
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>>581577505
i guess
>>581577525
always the outcasts i.e. horde banding together
meanwhile alliance players are all self centric
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>>581576548
about that
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>>581577525
that's the worst part of playing alliance, horde will literally run from one side of a zone to the other because someone got ganked and cried out in general chat about it. Alliance will literally see some pvp in their visual and go on with their business without helping because their wife's boyfriend needs to use the computer in 10 minutes.
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Why the hell are people selling shit for insane amounts on the AH? It's a fucking beta man, let me get some gear to try out wtf
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>>581577419
Alliance only talks in generals because there they can actually talk about anything that is not the actual game such as black penises, trans rights and trump
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>>581577618
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fd97o-gEBuk

They always were bro.
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>>581577687
>4 hour cooldown
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we need a peggle addon that automatically opens up during camping
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Am I missing something or is arms dps or pvp pretty much done after grabbing MS and cruelty?
I guess you could go for 11 points in prot for mostly useless shit and last stand but for 6 points more in fury you get piercing howl and get leftover points to grab more shit in arms
Does bloodthril proc off special attacks?
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Do engineers get bots early? Saw a reagent bot on the road
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>>581577605
that'll be my favourite moment of the game in and when i play on launch.
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>>581576867
deekin?
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>>581577505
horde has always been brown and their advocates. ogrimmar is basically delhi
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which healer should i play
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>>581577618
I played a gnome warrior in vanilla and they were shit, weird times we live in.
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>>581577687
this requires reloading with the battery that might cost a lot, depends on death lotus
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need this in forever wow NOW
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>>581577768
>I need to teleport to gadz more often than once every 4 hours
just set your HS there
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>>581577827
Autism and unchecked mental illness
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>>581577492
Because walking through SW while +100fags are walking all over the place is nauseating
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m+ when?
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>>581577751
we're testing price elasticity for release, do you even economics
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>>581577042
I assume you mean "secondary lighting" and I did indeed get +20 fps for turning it down to good
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>>581577618
They always were the best for pvp unc
>>581577687
Mages, druids etc already have teleports too so this isn't nearly as universally useful
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>>581577827
be the change you want to see (in the Goldshire inn)
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>>581576548
its has fun stuns and whatnot for bgs. the rocket boost for flag carriers in wsg is kino, if i recall
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>Because walking through SW while +100fags are walking all over the place is nauseating
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so what's the /v/erdict? is the beta fun? worth 60 dollars?
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I am simply not playing Forever because of how OP gnomes are

My fragile ego can't take getting killed by a midget exclusively due to their broken OP racials
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>>581577997
>
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>>581577827
are there pvp roleplaying servers where you can pwn degenerates all day?
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>>581575745
Gnomes, orcs and nelves are only good for burst. Obviously 2% passive crit is better than 10% crit for 15sec every 3mins, on average.
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>>581577990
>is the beta fun?
yes
>worth 60 dollars?
if you're not going to end up playing skyborne on launch I'd say probably not
but if you don't care about 60 dollars then go ahead
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wow the alliance town in Riverglades looks so much cooler than the horde town mudhutters getting fucked over yet again
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>>581577990
not worth 60
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>>581578130
Post em
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>skim thry the thread
>it's gay trans talk, positivty and streamers
holy reddit moment cya losers
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>>581577997
I hate that this is going to be every other commercial soon as boomers in tv advertising find ai slop.
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>soon
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>>581577419
you only need two or three good alliance guilds whos people actually fight and things can be turned around. it's not like horde is any better, they just outnumber in overworld. on EU ally is much better.
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>>581577990
not worth 60
well worth 7
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>>581577997
if you can't beat them, join them
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my favourite thing is to chat and joke around and make friends while questing and dungeoning =^D
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How do I level cooking without wanting to kill myself?
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>>581577528
Literally the only people who play Retail are addicts that started the game two decades ago and don't even like all the changes they demanded of Blizzard. Maybe the Classic audience skews older, but there are literally no young Retail players.
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>>581577778
seems pretty flexible

https://talentsforever.com/warrior/60/30305203132015131-055501000002--ACFE3HE1JKINMPQOSUWTcE-3
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>>581578240
thats where they do the tranny surgeries
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I won't play forever because its not good its just not because I said so and I will not olay it because okay?

Im trans btw
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>>581578271
And them getting plapped out by them…
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>>581578130
Alliance has always been the aesthetic faction, Horde mud huts and hide tents will never compare.
>>581577990
not worth 60 at all for a beta that will wipe, pay less or wait for launch.
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>>581578271
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>>581577990
anon its just a server with a lvl 20 cap, nothing exceptional. only reason i'd play it would be to test all the classes before launch
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>>581578293
barny beekeeper: origin story
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>>581578330
jej
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what are the chances asmongold quits streaming for a year like he did on his last channel because everyone saw how bad he is at WoW, and all the criticism starts getting to him?
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>>581577997
If you think OP racials at launch will remain OP forever you're wrong. We got active development and balance patches like in original vanilla so there's no way gnomes will stay top dogs forever and I will enjoy their tears when they have the ugliest manlet race and the worst racials
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where do i get a cookie for the mouse from?
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inv to asmon layer
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>>581560307
do mages have invisibility?
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>>581577990
I played to 20 then refunded.

Its vanilla in a retail engine. Slightly easier. Awful streamer cum gobbling playerbase. Memory leaks. New dungeons are very safe and eh. Weird new talent choices. New retail HD models in the word look weird and you cant disable them while having SD on.

Not worth 60. You can have fun with it for 2 months after release, after that all the reddit and streamer cattle will have already moved on to the next game.
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>>581578279
That happens in every MMO, the playerbase playing the current content is always full of mazed sunk costers that barely get any enjoyment from the activity anymore.
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>>581578367
>We got active development and balance patches like in original vanilla
It's just going to be select retail slop slowly recycled into the game
the skyborne starting zone is obviously some leftover shit they had lying around from some earlier expac they never finished
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inv to nelf wife gangbang layer
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>>581578056
you'd just troon out alongside them by trying, either that, or you get report-spammed into oblivion, these subhuman freaks are the pet golden childs of blizzard.
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>>581578468
>>581578468
>>581578468
>>581578468
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>start as undead
>its dark as SHIT cant see SHIT

Is starting as a human better?
Is it more epic to get up to stormwind?
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>>581577778
>>581578284
no enrage = your spec sucks dick.
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>>581578472
"we just wanna get married"
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>>581578146
this is the entire horde camp and the only one in the zone from what I can tell
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>>581578240
KINO, THANK YOU UNDEAD ANON FOR ANOTHER BLESSED TIRISFAL SCREENSHOT
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>>581578505
not having 1 point in imp slam is also wrong
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>>581578146
THIS is the Alliance keep
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sup y'all
it's me
it's your boy israeligold
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>>581578505
>5 talent points for 30% chance at 10% damage increase
yeah nah imma pass nigga
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>>581568496
I'm only like 4-5 of those week 5 runs while I was like a good 10-15 of the week 4 ones.
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These new talents seem weird. If you wanted to pvp as a balance druid or a hunter you'd just be taking all of one tree, doesn't seem too many options
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>>581578505
Oh wow, only just realised Enrage was nerfed massively

25% to 10% is gonna suck for pvp

But it will kind of work for some raid encounters now?
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>>581583557
They don't know how to make old talent trees. They think it should be like retail where every talent decision is like sophie's choice



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