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slow bake edition

>What is Wardogs?
A planetside/battlefield/arma/tarkov/squad-like with 3 teams and 100 players, from the developers of such classic and beloved titles as Battlion and Killrun

Launch Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpQnZgZCIo8
10 Reasons Not to Buy Wardogs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugkuP4a3xk4
Anti-Cheat Info
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1YpSHod0FA

Helpful Links:
https://wardogs.zone/
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This general will move to /vm/ when the first wipe happen and the player numbers will drop below 10k
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>>581657907
Ok make sure you stick around bud
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>>581657907
And that's a good thing
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>>581657316
Bremmer-senpai, I don't wanna get wiped...
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>been cheating with my DMA card since day 1
>nothing yet
why didnt these retards just use EAC?
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>>581657907
>>581658248
how did bremmer rape, gape and molest the doomers this hard?
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>>581658373
Bremmers got you ass wide open sissy
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Post em!
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what is the fastest way to level pilot
please dont tell me its dropping crates
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>>581658981
Wait in spawn until APC spawns.
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Be sure to tip!
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>>581658981
dropping good players who get a lot of kills so you get deployed player assists
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>>581659182
but there are 5 other helis waiting to pick up people
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>>581659457
well, you can always drop crates when there aren't players waiting for rides
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>>581658981
It's far from moral, but the best way is by far this:
>wait for someone to drive APC to zone
>drive it to its death (alternatively just C4 it)
>immediately return to spawn
>buy heli
>ferry dudes when most pilots either stopped or are doing logi now
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Doomers are crying, seething, and soiling their diapers about Wardogs. What went so right?
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>you can literally give yourself exp and money with hacks
>you can teleport around the map
lmao this game is vibecoded
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The chopper handles like shit
How the fuck do people stand this shit
>try to change yaw with Q and E
>chopper snaps back into place for some fucking reason
is there just some secret combo of the assist settings that actually make it playable?
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>>581660813
skull issue
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>>581660813
Mouse yaw and mouse axis isolation, anon
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>>581660813
turn off the flight assists
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Are there cheats that disable Verba lock-on? Could have sworn a heli's using it
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>>581658981
What if i told you that >>581658927
was made only doing UH-60 logi runs?
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>likelyhood of team winning depends on how well their outfit blends in with foliage
if you pick anything except green youre retarded
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Actual kills with small arms should be worth like 200% more
>basic kit with a gun and an optic, a conservative amount of ammo, and level 1 armor/helmet with some bandages is at least 4k
>not even close to extravagant, bare minimum for actually trying to chase the zone or assault someone else's base
>you have to get 3 kills + some change to even make your money back
>meanwhile logisticsfags can make their money back with a single pallet run with little risk
>builders and snipers just sponge money by holding left click with basically no risk except mortars for 80% of the game
Just give killing people with small arms and killing people with arty/vehicles different cash values. Going out and fighting needs to be a viable way of earning cash if you aren't some hypercaffinated zoomer that's been grinding Tarkov for the last 6 years
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>>581660502
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>>581661893
there seems to be a rather long minimum range
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Why dont high level cunts drop gear for team in crates?
I would imagine if you drop a couple crates with good stuff like thermo spotters or ghillie suit and mark it up to max price it would sell out almost immediately
I would definitely buy a thermal bino or a ghillie suit if a dude was selling it yet I never see anything beyond bandages and maybe ammo
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>>581662603
most dumb niggers never check in supply crates. it's not worth it for the 1 guy clever enough to look in the box
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>lock nigger hvar spamming heli
>lost lock
>the fuck
>again
>again
>finally able to get lock for long enough
>lose it again as missile almost comes off tube
>missile doesn't spawn
>still counts as completed launch sequence, tube is empty now
>get neckshot by yet another chinese hacker
>mfw wasted my time and money to be clowned on both in game and IRL
it was fun while it lasted I guess
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>>581662441
Oh ok
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>>581662371
>she isn't collecting the ticking control zone payment
>she isn't collecting the larger ticking hotzone payment
>she isn't reviving teammates
>she isn't healing teammates
>she isn't repairing vehicles
>she isn't spotting enemies
>she isn't c4ing buildables
>she just wants to be a codkid and get paid for it
ERm... yeah, um, no
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>>581662603
They should be dropping shit like that. But really the only thing that works is ammo, because knowers profit like mad off the fobbits.
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where can i build in the firing range
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>>581662603
>Why dont high level cunts drop gear for team in crates?
I play on Asian server and if a pilot got shot down by enemy pilots they will drop free verbas for newbs at spawn.
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>drive out to bumfuck nowhere to harass logi choppers with stingers
>see a kodiak parked there
>one enemy dude doing the exact same but to my team
>shoot him in the back with SKS
>laugh together in proximity chat at a funny coincidence and agree to harass the reds only instead of each other
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>>581663105
all of these give nothingburger payouts, stop larping logikiddie
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Why are the rpg and AT launcher reusable but the AA launcher is not? I wanted to speed around no man's land in a dune buggy with a buddy in the backseat with a backpack full of rockets
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>>581663105
The truth of the matter is that a logistics/transport/builder having a bad game will almost always go in the positive because it's so fucking safe and easy
An actual grunt playing aggro having a bad game and going 1:1 KD will be deep in the red if he's not constantly buying poverty kits
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>>581662947
>>581662441
>>581661893
If you watch how a real life stinger missile works it makes sense that you cannot shoot it too close

>>581662246
Reds are okay in that map with the rainyards and concrete ruins etc. (absolute 0/5 shit map btw)
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>people started leaning at me through walls so we don't aimbot each other
lmao it's just like tarkov
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>>581663192
buy a fob at the garage in an ural and drive off a little
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>>581658248
>>581663731
poor bait
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>>581663731
Post proof if real
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I swear I miss playing for one day and now every game theres multiple havocs flying around a bunch of niggers in ghilie with FLIR and T4 armour niggers holding random sightlines with PKMs what the fuck happened
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WHAT'S THE FUCKING POINT OF THE AA SHIT IF IT'S AS EASY AS PRESSING (1) BUTTON TO COMPLETELY REMOVE IT FROM THE GAME I HATE PILOTNIGGERS AND THESE FAGGOT DEVS SO MUCH
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>>581662371
>blues decide to do something (finally)
>hold hz pretty well
>it slides into a tower with half-completed fob walls
>blues confused because of course they are
>fuck it, time to do something
>c4 nearest hesco wall
>not enough
>do it again
>fucking blu shitstain decides to inspect c4 brick right as I push the button
>-3600, I need 3 kills to even this tk
>starting to get frustrated
>as soon as I peek, there is 3 guns aiming at me
>some guy revives me with bare hands not even moved me to safety
>instantly shot again
>now I'm seething and swearing into proximity as blueberries just get slaughtered
>somehow get revived again
>instantly pop adrenaline and just run to the gates at the back, explode them, explode surprised apc, flank corner camping m249 and double barrel his face off
>reds drop from helicopter and finish us off
>all this to make 8000 profit
>ghillied snipers get 200000 just camping our fob from the forest
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Just had a game where we were winning as green and blue and red started working together. As in literally fighting us alongside each other. Very annoying. We still won though
#greenprideworldwide
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I think teams should have distinct weapons. Make them reskins with the same stats, I don't care.
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>>581663385
Because it's not reusable irl
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>>581663385
Kodiak or humvee can carry 9 in inventory slots
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>>581663385
The missile comes in the tube and the tube's meant to be thrown away after use. They just modeled it correctly after the real weapon.

>>581664501
Yeah they really need to nerf the flare efficacy.
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>>581665181
Yeah but you can't shoot out the window while driving without killing your bro inside. I was using the kodiak before and that was fine but learning the dune buggy was safe for the backblast gave me the idea that it'd be a lot more fun
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>Build a sick base
>Retards keep letting people in through the gates
>The airlocked gates
How the fuck does this keep happening
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>>581665369
not enough doors
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>>581665435
I only do 3 but god damn these people are fucking retards, I've had 3 games get thrown today from teammates letting GRIGGERS into my base
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How many games was it before you realized the fighters and A-10s weren't actually firing at anything
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>>581664434
i have seen one (1) havoc in game.
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>>581664501
get gud, stay mad.
>>581665257
>Yeah they really need to nerf the flare efficacy.
if anything they need to add a launch warning tone.
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>>581665369
Just don't make gates. You make a ladder so they can jump out, and a garage outside for urals to dump stuff. But fully enclose your primary fob.

>>581666020
I never realized in game, I saw it posted here after like two days.
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>>581666020
as soon as i saw them cause im not retarded.
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Im going to try killing a friendly blackhawk pilot right at the start and see what happens :)
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>>581666369
retarded ass faggot ass nigger
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>>581665257
I've been driving around with verbas and I just don't get how aa missiles work.
Even without flares, they miss. I launch from the front, from the side, from behind, from up close, from mid range, from far away and they miss. I bait flares, launch and miss.
I give my friend verba, we time our launch to force early flares and hit with second missile, but they both miss.
Sometimes I get random hit and it's 1200 cents per small bird, 3000 for attack variant, 4000 per big transport.
Complete waste of time.
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>>581666543
delicious salty tears.
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>>581664501
>lock on heli
>they drop flare immediately
>launch missile
Always works.
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>>581666532
I'm gonna flood the roads out of spawn with pallets and see what happens :)
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>>581664501
Just lock shoot reload and shoot again
Flare cooldown takes longer than firing 2 rockets
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I lock on helis with empty verba so they spend 7k on flares :)
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getting sniped with pistols now
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>>581666892
>>581666972
CRAMs and SAMs are skill checks for pilots. Anyone who cant kill helicopters in this game is actually idiotic or are dealing with a semi-competent pilot.
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>>581657316
>slow bake
We just need more anons willing to bake. We fill up a thread inside a day which is good but no one seems willing to do their civic duty and bake. Like when you tell fobbits their base is about to get raided and none of them react until they get cleared by 1 guy and then complain in chat.
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>>581655925
>>581656062
yes this is actually unironically a skill issue
even if your pilot is retarded, if you're getting shot while parachuting you're doing something retarded
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remember anons
find your own fun
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>>581667414
>12 on red
>12 on green
>8 on blue
>the rest all waiting to be able to pick red or green
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wtf opposite day
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>>581666532
Bros im trying to, but I dont seem to be doing any damage :/
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>>581666548
Skill issue. Most people probably learned in ArmA though.
Generally the absolute best time is when they're showing their ass. Lateral or straight towards you and about to go over are the worse.
Basically you want the missile to have the longest time to get clean velocity towards the target. That means minimizing how much it moves from the missile's perspective when it first launches. Someone slowing down to gain height and drop dudes off is a great time, or trying to turn around on a dime through yawing. Longer are better for the missile hitting the target, but also give more time to use flares. Short range is very difficult since the relative motion of the helicopter is large, you have to point the missile at the copter to lock but it will also fail to turn quickly enough to actually hit it.
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>>581667140
>>581666972
>SAAAAAR WE ARE COMPETENT PILOTS SAAAR
pilotjeets can't even be subtle LMFAO
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>>581667084
Ran into a deagle for the first time today, it is really strong. Also getting kind of bored I burnt myself out too fast
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green has built in ghillies. you basically have a marker above your head on every other team.
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>>581667731
truly spoken like a mind broken cuck
keep daydreaming about street shitters out manoeuvring (pressing one button) your aa retard
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>>581667568
Oh you gotta punch them :)
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>>581668064
C4 works too :)
1 stick kills your teammates in it, but not enough to kill the chopper ::=))
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>>581668283
Now im thinking... How many c4's can you have on at once? Maybe if Im fast enough I can plant c4 on all the birds for one big bang :)))
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>>581667084
>sniped
>60m with a 50cal pistol
The 9mm smgs are lasers at 100m+, they’re the real problem. Basically no point in buying a rifle unless you expect to fight beyond 200m. A heavy, slow shooting, high caliber pistol working at 60m isn’t an issue, even shotguns are effective at that range.
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>>581665605
>I've had 3 games get thrown today from teammates letting GRIGGERS into my base
>I only do 3
>only
I too would leave doors open if a fobnigger put up 3 layers of doors
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>>581666957
how fares your research? :=)
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Game is absolutely overrun with hackers thoughbeit
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>blue tries to set up AA fob between our spawn and cz
>singlehandedly kill the 4 blue boys inside and demolish it

Try again niggers.
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hop in the /v/ thread
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>>581668283
4 sticks is enough to kill a black hawk, ill try 3 next time :)

Greengooners are the perfect guineas pigs :))
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Somebody join fucking blue already.
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>>581668909
Just thinking about it gets me all tingly down there :)) Want to add my discord so we can do that together~?
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>>581667886
>BLOODY BENCHOD BITCH!!!! WE ARE GOOD PILOTS SAAAR!!!
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>bring building supplies and ammo to fob
>get 0 dollars
i dont get it
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>>581669450
Bring actual ammo and meds, those are the only crates people actually pay attention to
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>>581669450
You need to bring pallets.
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>spawn
>die
>spawn
>die
>spawn
>die
now...the fun?
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How does capturing the point work? I guess my team was trying for that achievement and we've been on top of it for 82 points but green just took it from us, but the problem is we're all over the hot zone and I don't see 30 green guys here with us, but they just took it
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>>581669150
Nah i was about to head to bed. A divine spark of inspiration fell upon me, and I just had to do some critical research!
Lol some fags saw me doing it and gave me a STERN talking to, and they said they would report!! :(
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Locking on to friendlies to make them waste flares is so fucking funny
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>>581670014
this nigga actually fucking retarded
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>>581670014
Did you not play the tutorial? It had a whole segment on how that shit worked
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>>581670014
most blue coded post today
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>>581670014
blueGAWD....
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>get friends
>load them up with grenades
>fly over enemy fob and just rain grenades
this is fun. It is a shame that whenever my friends are not online I cant do this, so I cant have fun
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>>581670456
Yes I played the tutorial it didn't say anything about capturing the hot zone from a distance or anything unless im remembering wrong
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>>581670357
>>581670456
>>581670472
>>581670503
learn to read
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Do this to your pilots :)
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>>581670014
green has 30 guys in a superfob jerking each other off probably
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>>581670548
>>581670649
youre eyes sir
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>>581669450
pallets or crates? crates are a waste of time, requires the fobbit to have inventory space, and they usually take the free backpack so they wont bother. pallets need to be dropped in the fob zone, ideally inside the walls so the fobbits see it and hold F on it.

if you mean selling stuff from crates like meds and ammo, dont bother, no body uses those things. crates are for your own personal use. buy a cheapo truck and bring a crate in with you full of stuff YOU personally will use throughout the game. drop it in a bush where enemies wont see it, and buy your own stuff (its free, you already paid for it) instead of waiting to die and redeploy. extra ammo is pointless since you can just take a gun/ammo from a dead guy, but stuff like smokes, frags, and good meds are less common and nice to have a stash of.
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>>581670751
ohhh thats a good idea too :)
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>>581670798
I was filling crates with building supplies
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>>581670798
Ammo supplies crates will sell out for exp and money grinders especially if you have a lot of mortards
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>>581670751
https://files.catbox.moe/bcs9do.webm
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>blue builds same faggot base in a warehouse
>4 drills
>base is full of glitch spots where they can shoot you but you can't hit them at all

fucking hate that gay ass playstyle. winning doesnt mater fuck off with your 4 drill glitch base
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>>581670001
no bro you don't get it, this guy is going to run around with all of this attachments that give his galil 0 recoil and a .3 ads speed, and then he's going to kill you, and he deserves to kill you because he's played the game more than you, and you deserve to be a killfeed bot.
Simple as that.
Thanks for the $40. Nigger. :)
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>>581670751
Protip: You can drop them without putting them in your inventory. That way if you die nobody can pin it on you by searching your bag.
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>3/4 of the team sitting in a fully stocked fob all game
>no drills
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>>581672524
>But drills makes the mean assault chads come and wreck my sand castle :(
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ohhhhhhhhhhhhh
it's the tacvests. they change your reload's animation speed but they don't actually alter its duration. and the higher the tier, the bigger the gap
here, looks done but still takes another 170ms to actually be finished
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>>581672820
vibecoded
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>>581672820
>>581672961
they really did just not stitch any of the stupid shitty systems they made together did they?
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>>581672820
(reposting for context)
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this game is already crawling with cheaters, amazing.
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>>581673972
you're just bad
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>>581674282
200 ping chinks with 0 deaths and 30 kills each yeah they're just so much better. the highly moral people of china would never cheat in a video game. unheard of. russians too!
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>parachute comes within 10 meters of a tree
>die
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>>581674369
it's funny that you think all of the world's video game cheaters live in the u.s. government's two primary geopolitical rivals

i'm sure that's just a coincidence
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>Finally unlock the LMG
>Its useless until i grind four more levels to unlock the bipod
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oh fuck off
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>>581674463
nice try bugnigger
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>>581674485
The bipod is in no way necessary, just makes it so you can shoot far away without any problem. With a good foregrip it's still doable, just can't go ham with 15 round bursts
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I don't care about winning. I care about profit.
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>>581674463
Either you're baiting or... wait no.. you're baiting.
China has been the most well known source of cheating across all multiplayer videogames.
To China, it's a culture thing, 没被发现就不算出轨, "It is not cheating if you are not caught."
To them, if you aint cheatin, you aint trying. And if you get caught? You weren't cheating good enough.
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>forcing the helo pilot to land to drop you off because you didn't buy a chute
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>>581675568
they should up the price of parachutes by a grand
airdropping all the time is gay and choppers landing encourages players to stick together
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>>581675568
>be heli
>one dude aint got a 'chute
>everyone else drops
>free cam around to see our tightwad's kit
>hes got no helmet, no armor, holding a glock
Hes goin' back to base, and i'm booting him out with a pallet.
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I hope whatever dev decided the self propelled artillery was a good idea gets raped with a cactus.
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>>581675848
>Hes goin' back to base, and

>Not driving to the edge of the map so has to walk back or respawn instead of free gibs from another pilot.
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>762x54R AP doesnt kill a man wearing a T4 helmet
>but it will go through his head to hit another dude's T4 helmet with even greater power
interesting
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>>581675975
They should have made it drver level 45 instead of nolife level 90
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feels like the map in this game is completely fucking empty
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I had an amazing match earlier where we couldn't build for shit so the whole team said fuck it and just did helicopter drops and chased the hotzone. So I would drive the apc with the giant green mass and spam the smoke button so they could revive. We had a very close call where we lost the apc around the 75-80 mark on red team. So I drove the apc carefully off road and on the edge of the contested area telling people to kill themselves and get ready to spawn on the apc.

Like 12 people showed up and just ran towards that yellow circle just doing the enemies at the gate charge while some guy whipped grenades at us. We only had to kill a few of them to get the pop advantage back and earn our last point.
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Artillery and mortar spam needs to be nerfed and also add a cooldown so nobody uses it anymore. I fucking hate this shit.
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>>581676326
It would be perfectly balanced if they did one of two things
>Let the CIWS do it's IRL job of intercepting munitions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdfO0Abs1kU&time_continue=205&source_ve_path=MjM4NTE&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2F&embeds_referring_origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com
OR
>Make a big mark on the map where the artillery is firing from. Forcing the arty tank players to at least constantly stay mobile to avoid counter battery/attack
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>>581676763
just leave the fob.
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>>581676763
I've been building fobs inside of factories and buildings with roofs that are not destructible. Once people start shifting the meta away from living on drill towers we will have bases that aren't getting blown up within 5 minutes of round start. I made a fob inside the giant machine factory and had an apc in there. It was untouched the whole time and people were shooting mortars at us anyway despite the roof not taking damage. We forced blue and red team to bomb each other when they realized they couldn't actually hit us without ground teams.
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>>581674463
shhh
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>>581676905
sh-sh-sh-shooting.... in m-my shooting game?
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>>581675496
unironically propaganda. chinks are basically yellow americans. read up m8
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towers should have an anti-fob radius and the whole tower code system should be revisited
i like the idea of sub-objectives with a large payoff but as-is i have literally never seen it happen
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>>581676763
>>581676905
its so funny that the counter to fobbits is fobbits
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Did you know you can load your own mags by stacking the loose ammo into smaller chunks and loading them in order manually
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>>581677276
holy autism
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>>581677276
why would I ever do that shit?
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>>581677205
I dont even know how the tower/code system works, and i'm lvl 80 or something
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>>581676763
the biggest problem with it (aside from how cheap, readily available and effect it is) is that the camera lets you see literally everything on the map for free. they need to remove that shit so you have to rely on someone doing recon and then you can just play battle ship on the minimap looking at where your mortar landed in relation to any marked target. a minimap hit marker is all you should get
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>>581677450
That would only widen the gap between legit mortar players and cheaters on mortar
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>>581677323
well clearly there's no point in doing this since they're all tracers anyway so you cant use the tracers as every third bullet and in the end so you can count your shots. And in game AP is waste of money on unarmored or light armored and flesh bullets are useless against armor, so this just basically reduces your damage.
And also takes a whole lot of work to do lol

>>581677362
no reason, just wanted to test since I like WW2 planes and their cannon belts are always a mix of stuff, usually tracers, incendiary tracers, armor piercing, and fragmentation.
And maybe it COULD be useful if once in a billion years it just so happens that the AP rounds you shoot first destroy the target's armor and then the flesh rounds destroy him
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>>581677205
There is no reason to touch the drill towers when teams can just build their own. I like the mechanic of builders being able to actually influence the match by just having a well made base. But it needs tuning. It shouldn't be the primary method of winning the game. But an option to swing the match.

It does create really cool dynamic moments where teams are attacking intricate bases and forces a lot of close combat situations. But mortar spam and artillery spam is just absolutely unfun. Especially when you cannot get your team to attack the right correct people who are bombing the base.
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>>581677398
when all the towers are hacked, the code is revealed, each tower can only see the numbers of the controlling team
so if green controls 1 and 3
they'd see like 9*2
and red or whoever would see *7*
so if you raid all the towers you can piece together all the codes
and then you can input the code to draw the hz to the tower you input it from
this is useless because your fobbits can just build a drill
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>>581677398
something like, each tower has a piece of the code, going up to the area with the windows you can access a control console to get this piece of the code, get either most of the code and brute force the last digit or just get all pieces of the code (idk how long it is) and then input that into any zone tower to start it drilling
except every tower is a fob so highly fortified and protected by the brunt of their team, and also the code resets after each use so you gotta do it all again
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>>581677603
Mortar shelling just deals way too much building damage. If it barely broke anything then good bases would be almost useless to bombard and when the mortarfags don't get their blingbling sounds they might
who am I kidding, they WILL keep bombing even for a chance to get a dollar
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>>581677657
christ that is so much effort, assuming enemy fobbits takeover the other towers that means the assault team has to raid at least two tower fobs to make the drill go back to somewhere they aren't currently at.

vs a fobbit with a t3 hammer smashing one corner of a drill for 60 seconds and one truck showing up with a fuel pallet.
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What should I make outside of the circle, a stingray fob or a mortar fob
Not a talon fob since most pilots know not to panic flare

I just want support xp so I can get landmines and stingers
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>>581675975
Why? You can get $20k + kill bonus for hitting it with a stingray which is easy as fuck
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>>581677924
what if:
the drill or whatever it would be in this scenario doesn't move the HZ anywhere, it just gives the active team bonus points from it. So the main game would still be skirmishing the HZ in the middle but it could be made more effective by the towers or the fobs.
Since they are mercs, maybe the towers broadcast some sort of bloodsport reality show of the team that activated it. Like Caesar's favor to a gladiator sort of.
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>build fob and SAM with nothing else in corner of CZ
>real fob dies
>everyone just fucking moves into my AA base and plops down mortars, more SAMs, etc.
>people complain there's no walls and people just keep walking inside the base
>nobody actually builds walls though, they just keep complaining
I fucking hate these faggots so much
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>>581678264
they gotta let you label fobs, or pick an icon, or sell different kinds or something
god i really like this game and have high hopes but there's so, so many of these little design failures sprinkled everywhere
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>>581678121
if you want support xp you shouldn't build outside the circle
>build and pallet xp penalized ( i think you only get 10%)
>mortar will barely reach anything in the circle
>stingray only good against artillery
>pilots will figure out any anti-air and go around
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there should be some reason to roundtrip the ural back to base instead of dropping your pallets, jumping into the nearest barbed wire, and spawning a new one
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I use verbas to farm support xp because being a fobbie is so boring
>bring a single verba and a chute, optionally a binocular
>pays for itself in one shot
>suicide and start again
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>>581678387
Even a basic Alpha, Beta, Charlie, etc naming in order of establishing would suffice.
Obviously naming them yourself and even giving them a colored icon would be the best thing.
In fact there should be a sidebar in the map screen where you can see all the FOBs of your team and expanding the FOB in the sidebar showed you similar information as the wardogs.zone build planner.
pic related
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how are people launching the actual maps to practice flying on, you see them on them solo on yt vids a lot
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Starting to feel a little burned by the game, desu.
I can't help but notice an overwhelming enormous supermajority seems to just straight up hate mortars and attack choppers and tanks.
So why are they ingame? I thought they were all about listening to their community?
Or is "their vision" the entire game devolving into those 3 very things every single match?

There's counters to all of them, but they all require you to spend significantly more time and resources than, you know, clicking 3 times (or 5 times for a mortar). It's just weird.
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>>581678965
Didn't you hear? bramm said there was you stupid fucking chud, pay attention, you're obviously just not looking.
(it doesn't exist without transporting a PLAYER and not getting out of your truck on the entire trip)
the fucking devs are gigantic fucking dorks, I'm hating them more with every smarmy, smug fucking post they make.
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>>581679231
if you could just buy the counters from the start and the prices were adjusted, I don't think people would mind

the problem is the incentives are all fucked up and backwards. it really feels like they just want you to suffer and get bored until you have unlocks you actually want
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>>581679361
>roundtrip bonus exists, but is broken
delivery streaks are a good idea
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>>581679465
If that's what he said, sure, the fact he said "there is you're just not paying attention" when it objectively is NOT there because the odds you get a passenger in a fucking ural while running supps is like 1%. He's running his mouth without knowing the facts, he's turning into sean murray, given they have a history of cutting and running from their projects already, I'm getting a bit nervous that the game is gonna go dark and then that's it.
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>>581679231
>>581679401
more weirdposts about all these havocs and tanks that don't actually exist on the servers yet
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>>581679465
>>581679560
you're both retarded by the way, the round trip bonus works just for dropping pallets
its a worthless pittance though and he should drown himself in the thames
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>>581679590
?
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>>581679627
it does not. There is video proof of it not working.
And when someone called him out on that very post he recants and says "Oh, you're right, it requires a player"
:)
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>>581679668
>he broke it since the beta
What the fuck is wrong with this dev team?
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>>581679590
Are you playing exclusively on community servers or what? Top 10~ in all of my games are wd 110+ and have either driver, sniper, or pilot in the 30s. I haven't had a game without at the very LEAST artillery since last weekend, and can't even get my friends to log on due to the sheer volume of them.
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>>581679590
85 levels in and ive seen one havoc, which only ever attacked fobs. never seen a tank, unless they mean the arty tanks, which i have no problem with because i dont sit in a fob.

its just seething fobbits tabbing out while they wait to be revived.
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>>581679590
i was more thinking about the price, weight and unlock requirement of maaws and how ridiculously cheap and tanky humvees are when I wrote my post

or how artillery is 10k after ammo and allows you to anally rape any fob on the map for 20 minutes
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>>581679769
artillery is common right now because it's 10x less of a grind than the top tier vehicles
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>>581679885
Yup and that's why I'm classifying it in the "very least troublesome" since it's just wd level pretty much everyone should have it by end of wipe. I think they're a pretty natural counter to mortar spam (or would be if mortars couldn't fire 9 shells in ~30 seconds by building groups of them for 0 cost lmao).
But havocs and tanks are brutal, they do exist, just because they're not in YOUR games does not mean they're not in a lot of them. Glad you're lucky.
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>>581679808
that's almost exactly my experience too
i guess people are crying about "tanks" (self-propelled artillery) and "attack helicopters" (competently piloted minigun littlebirds)
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>>581678965
just keep driving and exit vehicle while its moving will kill you no faffing about
>>581679627
you only get cash doing round trip pallet runs, no exp
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>>581679872
i unlocked both maaws and m249 humvee today, around 75 hours of gameplay
what i noticed was that the first time i drove around in the humvee, i was pretty strong because nobody had explosives, because it's still uncommon for people to have driver level 20
then after i died and tried again, everyone had rpgs and i died immediately
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>>581679872
artillery is actually really easy to destroy
one stingray will 100% kill an arty first try because they always park halfway between their spawn and the cz, just fly there you'll find them and boom

the other things are a lot harder to deal with though to be honest because you need a personal weapon that requires a high level
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>play match
>do a couple runs as infantry
>costs 2-3x more than souping up a humvee minigun with max ammo (in car inv and personal inv)
>lose my money to some dude in a ghillie getting 4x headshot damage and IR scopes
>go sit in base
>make 80,000 in a match
>repeat
is this it? is this the essence of wardogs? boy oh boy lots of fun to have to do the most mind numbing rust building garbage to be able to play the fucking game.
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>>581676773
>Make a big mark on the map where the artillery is firing
Even better, a large upwards cylinder of flame coming out the 155 barrel that's visible across the map
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>>581679361
I hate smarm so fucking much.
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>>581680435
the ghillie guy obviously wasn't sitting in his base
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>>581680647
and ended up making less than me at end of match. That's more my point.
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>>581679996
>just because they're not in YOUR games does not mean they're not in a lot of them. Glad you're lucky.
i've played 80 hours since 3 days after launch
i'm not "lucky", i'm observing a statistically representative sample
>mortars and attack choppers and tanks
>is "their vision" the entire game devolving into those 3 very things every single match?
mortars are the only one of those three things that exist on the servers right now, and mortars are only useful against fobbits
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>>581680681
but he had more fun
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>>581680749
Yup, cause he got to play the game.
I don't want to play a sniper, I want to play infantry in the HZ. Unfortunately that's not what the devs decided was more valuable.
If I could get 4x damage on my headshots for using slugs, I'd totally move to shotguns. But only snipers get that benefit, so there's no reason to ever use anything else.
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is the verba the single most useless weapon in the game?
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>>581680435
IDK man its pretty easy to go at least even as infantry. Between kills, kill assists, revives, revive assists, and zone ticks (all doubled in the HZ), I never really lose money as assault/medic.
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Humvee taking the same amount of RPG shots as the APC is ridiculous
Oh you hit it? It'll just drive away, repair and be back in 2 minutes
Still 3 more levels until Carl Gustaf
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>>581680826
my most profitable lives are when i join a mid-sized group of infantry in the hotzone
if the group is too small you die too fast, and if it's too big others take all the kills, heals and revives
make sure you're mostly healing, reviving and spotting, this isn't cawadoody
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>>581680435
take less junk and carry a bunch of smokes, you will rake it in if you arent an aimlet
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>>581680925
>Humvee taking the same amount of RPG shots as the APC
source?
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>>581681359
Humvee needs 3 shots to the side to explode, same as the APC
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>Verba can still lock onto targets even when its spent
PERMANENTLY TERRORIZE ALL PILOTRANNIES
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>>581680435
>Infantry die
>Get revive, kit still useful
>Vehicle die
>Kit gone forever
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>>581681548
>Humvee needs 3 shots to the side to explode, same as the APC
source?
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>>581682215
>>Get revive
>Implying people revive in this game
>Implying some snipernigger won't stand 10 meters away from you the whole bleedout time
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>>581682453
people fight over revives because they're good money and xp
>help, i took my most expensive kit and ran at the enemy solo and no one is reviving me
so that's why people are complaining about kit costs
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>>581682453
Reviving is a huge moneymaker. All you need to do is carry a defib with a large battery and you make big money. The whole medic class is just a way for smart players to make thousands off of overenthusiastic zergers who think theyre Shroud.
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>>581679060
should have to make a squad to buy a fob (maybe just be in one), have the fob named after the squad, and let players name their squads
boom, kills like a dozen birds with a handful of stones
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>>581682015
I lock on to friendly pilots too :)
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>>581680435
I just made 135k with 0 deaths in a match just doing supply runs in the black hawk.
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>>581683591
wow that sounds fun
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>>581679361
Do I get commensurately higher reward for blowing logicucks sky high with AT mines, if they're on a streak?
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>>581683591
>people log on to do doordash in a video game
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>>581683591
zzzzzz
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>>581683591
sustainable way for the game to work according to these niggertarded devs btw
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>>581683686
it's pretty fun when you get three missile locks in a row, your tail rotor takes a hit, and you just barely manage to set it down in a field in one piece with no yaw control
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>bitch ass kodiak brings in a puny ass supply load to the FOB
>he austin powers his shitbox at the entrance
>stand by the gates leaving them open waiting for him to finally drive off and leave
>he hops off his shit box
>walks up to me
>"erm I guess we're just leaving the gates open, are we?"
>everyone around nearby hears
>suddenly the whole FOB hates me
>I didn't do shit
>can't go back to that FOB for the rest of the match
wtf bros?
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>>581684908
you blow his brains out the second he says that shit and start loudly yelling at him for parking his shitbox in the fob
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Haha we're fucked
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>BOOM
>eeeeeEEEEAAAAOOWWW
>BABOOM
>AAAAGH
Another $20k for bombarding buildcucks and annihilating their pathetic drills! Thank you buildcucks, please keep making me money
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>>581685686
Beautiful.
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is the mosin worth using with ap ammo? or should I stick with the sks
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>>581680875
yeah I dont fucking get why they gave it so many downsides
>no reloads
>weighs more than the rest of your kit combined
>cant put into backpack

and inb4 some nigger starts with realism
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>>581687110
ap ammo oneshots everything but t4 helmets afaik
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>Almost 100 hrs of play time
>Most classes are still at around level 13
>One of the most desired upgrades I want are anti-air stinger, anti tank mines (to troll supply route), and IR spotter

How do you level support and recon quick
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>>581688008
hit yellow cross with a hammer
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>>581688008
Bring a large hammer and binocular every spawn.
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a lot of crying about balance on reddit
as should be it's retarded right now
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>>581688008
recon is just total ass to level, just spotting helis isn't enough, you need to be somewhere where you can spot infantry
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How do I turn off screen shake or if it's just how it is
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>>581688743
pretty sure there was an option in the settings
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>>581688008
for support your best bet is to take a ural with double build pallets and a fob, go find some place just inside CZ (so you get the boosted exp/cash), drop fob, build ciws or drill rig (don't worry you don't have to use it at all), then disassemble, build another, repeat. You'll rake in supp exp. If you want, you can do this inside of another fob, and can replace one build pallet with ammo to get mortar assists, this speeds things up.
I personally ran shotgun with the HZ squad. slugs+2.5 optic+angled foregrip (for increased ads/equip speed), and defibs/stims. stims give 1k a pop at 250 cost, VERY easy money and some great medic XP too.
slugs will two tap good hits on level 2 armor, and 3 tap level 3, center mass. You can also use the 1.5x optics from assault for better ADS modifier, less ranged visibility (but same range, you can easily hit up to 100m out dead on)
For recon, spotting is pretty much your best bet. just spot and spot and spot, make sure to run out the refreshes. If you're able, overlooking a fob is great exp, once you're done, MOVE. If you're not comfortable sniping, KEEP MOVING. Rangefinders/monoculars cost fucking nothing, bring them and nothing else, keep moving, if you die, oh well. $500 for a rangefinder and parachute, and you're back in it, that's like 2 spots or 2 minutes passive income in the zone.
You want to be a nuisance and spot EVERYTHING. keep that shit refreshed.
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RPG shots always go down and to the left, zero that shit properly
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>>581688008
recon get to lvl 10 and start killing otherwise you need to find a sport where you can spot players constantly without getting killed yourself, pretty hard to do
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the biggest source of EXP that people ignore is the end of match bonus. You get a multiplier applied to your exp gain throughout the match (only on your last team if you're a swapping faggot). Even if you didn't do a ton, you still get a nice big bump at the end of match, higher if you win.
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Didnt know the stingray could headshot people thats neat
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>>581689573
everything can, I mean everything. You can even get a headshot with vehicle ramming/damage, and RPGs.
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>>581688939
Adding onto this for recon only play the map with the smokestacks fly up there in a little bird and make sure to reposition it off the smokestack, ive had the best success running this loadout
>free gun and 2 mags just incase
>Lv3 helmet so regular snipers wont oneshot you + lv2 armour
>Best rangefinder you can get
>20 meds
>RPG with a spare rocket for littlebirds or blackhawks that try to ram you off
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>>581690139
i've seen people start to mortar the top of those because of all the reconiggers that sit up there kek
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>>581690139
What's the difference between rangefinders?
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>>581690441
you pay slightly more for objectively better ones
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>>581690441
Binos take 4 slots, no variable zoom
Monocular takes 2 and has zoom
Rangefinder finds range on top of that
Infrared has infrared vision
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>>581690604
to expand: monocular is 3-5, range finder 2-6
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>Teammate finally calls drill
>They the only one in the base
>Everyone is dead or far away from fob
>Apc hasn't reached zone yet
I really hate hammeroids
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>>581690954
>they wait
>enemy calls drill to their zone
>they now have control over it because they are the only ones who know how long it will last and can prepare and be ready to call the instant it does end
nah, your fault for not sticking to your fob.
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>>581690954
how do drills even work? the game doesn't explain it
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>>581685813
red is the new blue

>>581688008
build solo mortar fobs in-circle and then mortar enemy fobs
this means buying a fob, like 6 stacks of building supplies and as many ammo supplies as you can hold, a big hammer, a ural, and 2 pallets of ammo
then you drive somewhere secluded, plant the fob and encase it with double stacked hesco walls (no doors), then place a mortar launcher and entomb yourself with it also with double stacked hesco walls. careful to leave enough space between the mortar and the walls, otherwise far shots won't be possible. need about a 2-hesco gap from the edge of the mortar to the wall
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>>581657907
they will backtrack on the wipe
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Devs for real fucked up the balancing of money
>spend 15k on mid tier kit
>go hz with the other 3 people on my team who actually play objective
>get revives, assists, hz ticks, recon spots and 7 kills before the 4 of us inevitably get wiped by the team that puts 20 in hz
>barely break even on the life
meanwhile logitards and buildfags are making bank with 0 risk while also contributing nothing to the objective

The devs must’ve thought they had to incentivise the “boring” tasks or no one would do them, but they clearly went too far and didn’t realise how many retards would sit and do nothing if it made them more money, barely 1/5 matches will have more than 20 people in the entire game fighting over the hz while the other 80 suck each others cocks in one of their 10 fobs
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>>581691114
The "main towers" which were supposed to be the core of the game (lol) are:
>after 10 minutes, the towers activate
>you can capture a tower, and get a portion of a code to activate the tower
>get enough portions of the code and you can input it (or brute force it through guessing).
>this brings the hotzone to your tower for a few minutes, after which point it resumes normal slow movement.
Drills rigs are:
>place down in a fob, and it drags hz to you, centered on the drill rig
>requires fuel supplies and has NO time restriction

They cannot coexist, so any time the drill rigs go up, towers go down, I don't think I've seen a regular tower drill go off besides a couple 2 tower matches I've been in where they guessed the code off rip.
But they do the same thing, they're REALLY powerful, and pretty much become the end of most matches once they start going.

You can build multiple drill rigs and they have separate cooldowns, so as soon as one is built and running, you start building another, so when the first is done, you finish building the second, and can pretty much immediately resume the drilling and HZ capture, and it keeps it on you forever as long as fuel lasts (And they don't blow up the rigs).

The ONLY benefit tower has over drill rigs is that you can't blow up a tower. But the amount of time it takes for them to come online.
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>>581691727
Don't forget humvee retards

>spend 3750 with some armors and meds
>Spend 7k total
>Get 15~ kills per life
>Easily 100 kills per match and make crazy profit

Theres a reason why humvee premades are more popular than normal infantry squads, its just too cheap for incredibly fast returns
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>>581691727
if they made the hz bonus 4x instead of 2x it would fix the game
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>>581691961
yeah humvees are way way way too inexpensive
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>>581691983
they should make kills in general more valuable, dropping someone who spent 20k on a kit and getting 3k for it is retarded. But I agree, multiplier for actually doing shit in hz should be meaningful
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>>581691961
Bumrushing fobbits at the start of the game for easy 20k every match if you got M249 humvee with a friend
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>4am
>NA
>servers are all full of retards and chinese
>not fun, no teamwork, nobody talks
>log off and go to bed


after 120 hours im starting to hate this game
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Money is infinite. Exp is finite.

HZ should reward 3-4x exp to make people want to fight in it
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>>581692454
it's sunday, people are sleeping in
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$140k in a Talon SAM
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>>581692502
NOOOOOOO US FOBBERS WONT EXECPT THAT
DRILL? NOOOO I JUST WANNA BUILD!
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>>581692454
All the chinks are fleeing to NA and OCX because Asia is nigh unplayable with cheaters on every match
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>have like 5 chinese guys in my match, all in a squad
>follow them around "oh herro chingchong nipnong saigon taipei"
>eventually one of them teamkills me
always makes me giggle, you just know it pisses them off.
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>>581688008
sks with recon
mortars
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why are people recommending the SKS instead of the mosin?
the headshot multi is fucking nuts, you can 1 tap lv2s with a mosin, takes 2 or 3 shots with an sks.
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>just realized that mortars give support exp

Fuuucckk I should've been a mortard from the start
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>have about 13m total life cash
it just doesn't even feel relevant anymore. I grinded so fucking hard to get AT mines and shotgun suppressor, but I made so much money there's nothing to even spend it on, it feels pointless because everything's ACTUALLY gated by XP. I feel like it should be the other way around and money should be way harder to get than xp.
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>>581690674
IR goes to 8x right?
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why the fuck does driving in the fucking river have 0 impact on your vehicle? Why can you just drive all the way up the fucking river and not have to be on the fucking roads or at least the mountains/plains?
What a fucking weird decision, it makes setting up chokepoints pretty much impossible, you can't actually fucking gauge where anyone is going.
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>>581693310
No, 6x to my knowledge. I'm only 28 though so I've only got to use it once or twice when dropped for me.
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>>581688698
I tried some combat recon stuff with SKS and damn it aint easy. No rapid fire means that if you flinch you miss and then you die.
Against full health and or armored enemies it's better than shotgun though because it shoots a bit faster, otherwise it's pretty much the same gun mechanically
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>>581693437
same, but I could have sworn it zoomed further than range finder, maybe it was just the rose tinted goggles of getting to see through everything
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>>581692567
build a fob in the center of the command zone :))
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>>581691727
i agree but you can give them the benefit of doubt it's the first "season"
hopefully they think of something because this endgame shit is not going to make the game fun, besides the fact that grinding is insanely time consuming, there's no way im going to play this game this much in such a short period again, thus im going to always be really behind some of the sweaty guys
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>>581693654
They literally already solved it, they did it with repairing vehicles. Slowly diminish return. if you've gotten 10k from building a ciws or rig, you do not need 10k for the next one. 5k, then 2.5k, then start charging, again, like how vehicle repairs work.
Why the fuck are we paying these people to dismantle and rebuild their shit? They HAD to know this was happening, it was happening in the fucking betas and alphas.
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Towers should provide build up fuel when someone is controlling them
You can tell a tower is full when it starts shooting fire/oil out the top blowing off its excess
When a tower is full you can bring urals to the tower and load the fuel onto them to bring to a hotzone magnet elsewhere.

This should be your only way to fuel player built drills.
Guarding the convoy would be fun, would prevent people from just ignoring towers as an objective. Would make controlling them actually worthwhile.
Idk what you'd do with the current hacking/code mechanics, maybe it lets you shut down the other towers and funnel all the oil into yours for a period of time.
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>>581660913
>>581661002
>>581661034
He's right. I play on stick and even with assists off the Lakota flies like a wooden barrel in the ocean, the thing actively wants to kill itself the moment you give it any input. And that's not even taking into consideration how absolutely horrible the hotas control layer is. If you think M/KB is hard gamepad/stick is even worse.
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builders literally ruin your games, chasing hz wins the game if you deathball in it with your entire team lol
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>want to join green since they always win
>click on green
>no deployment
>click on green
>nothing happens
>green doesn't even gets greyed out I just can't join the faction
>click on blue
>instantly join
Fuck this game. I don't want to be with drooling retards anymore, It was fun for the first couple dozen of matches only.
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>>581679560
>he's turning into sean murray
Wardogs is going to be a spectacular flop full of lies and then somehow pull off one of the greatest comeback stories in the history of gaming?
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120 hours, I think I'm done until they do something about the chinese.
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>>581693946
ooh i like this idea
what if towers with anti-fob radius + this
build a drill-site fob somewhere (maybe specifically on marked patches), load the oil into drums or directly into a tanker, and then unload it at a tower to start pulling the hotzone
>why wouldn't our sponsors be selling us oil to use directly in towers without having to drill it
whatever, rename the fuel source to unobtanium or some shit
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>>581694603
They're monitoring the situation
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>>581694129
it's not my fault that i need a shit ton of support levels to unlock explosives
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Once you get the hang of it, shotty with slugs is probably the best 100-200m range weapon
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>>581694603
join a community server
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>>581677031
this, we had a huge fob built in the stands of the stadiums on one of the maps and that shit was impenetrable
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>>581675140
Lets be real recon's whole level line-up kinda sucks.
You unlocked mosin at level 10 and SVD at level 12 and that's pretty much the only two sniper gun options in this game.
The spotting mechanics is even more of a joke. The more expansive spotters offers higher maximum zoom magnification, but since your vision range is capped at 1km no matter which spotter you use as long as you have no problem identifying and spotting stuffs from afar with a cheap 3x zoom binoculars there is no differences. The only game changer is the level 32 IR range finder which highlights every spotable objects but well, it's fucking level 32. By the time you get there chances are the wipe is in 2 days.
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>drive behind enemy lines to make a mortar prison
>obliterate green base and their drill
>almost out of ammo for the mortar
>get team killed by a heli sniper that must have hovered directly over me to even see down into my walled off prison
>he did this despite it being in a friendly fob marked on the map and the only thing even close to in range is an enemy base so even if I was an enemy killing me would have helped green
>blue team so he can be expected to go to such fantastic lengths to be retarded
>steal abandoned ural and bring back more ammo for the mortar
>obliterate green base again
>run out of ammo for real
>check map
>my fob is the only one for blue team that exists
>we have plenty of people in the hz so it's fine
>respawn and try to recapture an actual fob
>spawn vehicle is roaming around the hz with 20 dead bodies around it
>drive in with a bunch of stragglers in a kodiak
>fight red ghillie snipers camping our edge of the map
>have a fun stealth adventure trying to solid snake my way into the zone again with four other guys
>green wins
>went from level 13 to level 13 in support
I really hope they make the grind less retarded. My biggest gripe is that I'm 25 hours into the game and I'm still stuck on basically starter gear. I hope the devs don't make it longer. Holy fuck I hope they don't.
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>>581697101
>25 hours into the game
its been out for ten days wtf are you doing?
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like the game
dislike the grind

i will come back once they buff exp gain
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>pick up a guys FAL
>run the lobby for the next 15 minutes
>only die because the FAL guy reappears
this objectively better weapon progression stuff is pretty dogshit
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>>581697864
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>>581691593
>they will backtrack on the wipe
First time?
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I like watching people
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>>581697987
/qa/ lost
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>>581698129
cuck
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>>581698228
idk what that is but anime posters are as cancerous as chinese on wardogs so go back where you belong
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>>581693312
NO ITS NOT FAIR THAT VEHICLES GET TO DRIVE OFF ROAD. THEY HAVE TO DRIVE ON THE ROADS OR I CAN'T GET ANY AT MINE KILLS.
DEVS, FORCE THE TRUCKERS TO DRIVE ON THE ROADS
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>Fourth BSOD ATTEMPTED_WRITE_TO_READ_ONLY_MEMORY
>Apparently the anti cheat is the cause

Yeah I'm refunding after 20 hours, not risking bricking my rig in this economy
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>>581698423
you must be 18 to post on this site newfag
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>>581698228
that image is older than /qa/ newfag cancer
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>>581693775
>Start getting less XP for building
>Respawn at base and drive trucks until support XP returns to full rate.
The diminishing returns xp is bullshit anyway. I understand why its there, to stop people from just teaming and farming kills/revives in the corner of the map.
But surely the system should be able to detect when one guy keeps getting revived over and over, compared to someone mass reviving many different teammates after an artillery barrage.
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would you say certain teams attract certain players or its completely meaningless?
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>>581698380
I'm looking at you right now
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>>581698826
go back to wherever you crawled out of
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>>581698129
same
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>join community server
>spend 15k
>get kicked for some name tag autism
thanks
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>>581699089
Green: Builders, tacticians, people playing the long game. Usually have huge FOBs, good logistics and clutch wins from drilling zone control.
Red: Zergs, pvpers and deathballers. Unlikely to build good bases, usually just brute forces a win through raids and chasing hotzone.
Blue: The rejects. Sometimes they are builders, sometimes they are pvpers, sometimes they are partisans, always they are losers.
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>>581699089
Blues are always either glue sniffing retards or mega clan stacks because its the easiest to get into

Red is fobbit furries

Green is sweatfest or fake blues wanting to get carried then usually red wins
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>>581699089
Green has the good ones cause blue is supposed to attract retards and noobs. Red is for those who can't go green but want their secured second place. Honestly, you should get dropped in a random team to mix things up,, without the option to switch teams and cash penatly for dropping out of a match.
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>>581699089
I join green because theyre freedom and red because theyre duty
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>>581699089
i would say that at the very least red and green have a barrier to entry, being that you have to actively compete to get on them
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>>581699153
NTA but you can literally see that the posts in the bin are from two years before /qa/ was opened you retard.
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>>581670001
you can actually
>kill
too if you have a semblance of hand-eye coordination and IQ above 90. maybe stick to 2026 "video games" would be the best option for you?
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>581700143
90% of the people saying this have a 1/1 K/D btw
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Jesus fuck this game and its shitty balance. There was a dude in a match earlier with level 4 armor and a level 4 helmet who also had a goddamn .50 cal sniper. Dude went like 50-3 because any time anyone shot him with anything, even in the head, all he had to do is duck into cover and bandage. Wasn't even repositioning, just sitting on top of a drill tower. Meanwhile, he's one-shotting absolutely everyone. This is absolutely heinous bullshit. Between that and the SPAG spam every round this shit is borderline unplayable.
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>>581701124
Skull issue.
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>>581701124
At least artillery is easy money, two bricks of C4 on the back of the turret will take it out and they're inevitably in first person or shell cam so they're incredibly easy to sneak up on.
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I'm so cheap I don't even buy chutes. I just jump and let people res me
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>>581701124
He went 50-3 and still probably barely broke even because of how expensive sniper rifles, meds and good armor are. Which is at least some consolation because at least he also isn't making huge money doing it.
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>>581692609
Why not region locked?
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>>581692609
erm this has been #deboonked
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>>581697864
the worst gulf is between the starting sniper and the mosin
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>>581692609
literally just ban every chinese ip address
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>>581670014
every man in CZ counts as 1 every man in HZ counts as 2. the team with most men gets a point every tick.
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somebody in my game already has a tank. according to my calculation i need 30 more days to grind a tank and then it will wipe.
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>>581679808
>unless they mean the arty tanks, which i have no problem with because i dont sit in a fob.
I played against some that kept zeroing in on the hotzone, and it was as annoying and gay as you would imagine
>well dont chase the hz then either
omg shut the fuck up retard
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>>581685839
how do you have a mortar unless u to oare a build-cuck?
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>>581703491
ive yet to see a tank do anything. at least compared to the one havoc Ive seen
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lmao turns out if there are people or crates by the sides of lil bird, your missile launcher will lose lock on if the center of your cursor overlaps the people/crates
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>>581676905
how am i supposed to get level 16-20 support then???
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>>581703491
Don't you got a shitbucket, soldier?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5HDQWrmVq0
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Is that fucking king kong on the hill watching me build my autistic stone sculptures
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>>581704891
pareidolia is fun, isn't it?
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>>581662371
going out and fighting should be the primary and most efficient way to make money
everything else should either be complementary or a drain
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How are the savings going anon?
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>>581662603
i do but i jack the price up a shit ton kek. once i get vector im gonna sell that shit for 10k a pop
anyways been base raiding
>i can just punch out the cam fort that people put in the corners
KEK these niggas will then replace it with the same structure instead of a concrete barrier, so i can just prone and punch it out again
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>>581705594
Are you ready for your gold cosmetic bar, xister?
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>>581704891
holy shit
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You know the controls for the helo are shit when it takes an hour tweaking sensitivity and rebinding keys to even start learning how to fly
It's like they vibecoded controls for a row boat and put it on a chopper
With all the assists off, tapping the roll buttons for even the briefest period of time turns it fucking 45 degrees, I have to play fucking maracas with A and D to even attempt to fly in a straight line. No way to adjust the sensitivity.
Okay, let's try it with the auto-assist
YOU CAN'T FUCKING TURN THE CHOPPER BECAUSE FOR SOME REASON, NO MATTER HOW HARD I WHIP THE MOUSE RIGHT OR LEFT, THE ASSIST JUST FORCES YOUR YAW TO THE DIRECTION YOU WERE FACING. YOU CAN LITTERALLY ONLY FLY IN A STRAIGHT FUCKING LINE IF YOU TURN IT ON
WHAT'S THE POINT OF AN ASSIST IF IT ACTIVELY GRIEFS ME
Trying to land is suicide because there's no way to finely adjust deceleration and acceleration for a smooth landing
I get that they don't want this to be BF4 where any timmy can just hop in a chopper and start raping people but you shouldn't have to spend 3 hours fighting bad controls just to start being competent in a basic transport role
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>>581705789
Mouse axis isolation, just turn it all the way up to 100% and the helos become controllable
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>tfw only 2mill cause i force infantry and just run in
i spent 2 hours practicing piloting with rifleaim and i just cant do it. ITS TOO HARD
someone post shit
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I like goomba stomping enemy helicopters with the blackhawk, it breaks their rotors and they crash lol
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>>581705789
the "air vehicle sensitivity multiplier" does affect your keyboard inputs if i'm not mistaken. i might've just placebo'd myself into thinking they do though, i don't know
mouse axis isolation 0%. i tried it and felt like i was unable to do any kind of microadjustments
no assists. ok maybe hover assist. but other than that, everything else just gets in your way
>NO MATTER HOW HARD I WHIP THE MOUSE RIGHT OR LEFT, THE ASSIST JUST FORCES YOUR YAW TO THE DIRECTION YOU WERE FACING
are you doing rifle aim, yaw on mouse? helis don't turn with yaw. in fact, they fuckin... can't i think? you have to roll and pitch to turn with yaw supporting the action. it's not assists that cause the heli to realign with its direction of movement, that shit's just like... physics
anyways the collective control feels like ass and the roll/pitch controls can feel so touchy and so hard to get into balance. fuckin' see-sawing just trying to fly level so i can go into my options to change shit, and even then i'm seeing in the background i have 5-10 seconds before this vessel is doomed
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>>581706190
>>581706237
The duality of /vg/
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>>581705696
I'm not going to buy any gold until I finish unlocking everything in the game to play around with in preparation for season 2.
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>>581705789
I have never been a big vehicle guy in any game, but I still manage to pick up flying helis in this game without touching a single setting.
I reached lvl 15 pilot, I can drop people off over the zone or land very slowly, and I can do air freight very easily, even with SAMs up.
Can I rape an entire lobby with the minigun LB? No. But im fine with that. Stop watching nolife ecelebs with 2000 hours flying virtual helicopters and trying to imitate them.
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i only tried to fly a helo, like, twice, the assist feels really weird, like when i hit yaw right it fuckin pitches me back to the left for some reason? i'm like, no bitch, i wanted to yaw a bit because i'm at the wrong angle
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>>581707783
I'm just trying to learn how to fucking land without spending 20 minutes wobbling over the LZ
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>>581706237
If I see an enemy havoc in the sky, I don't even bother with Strelas or Stingers or any launcher at all. I just grab a Blackhawk from spawn and fly it straight into them. Easy 20k and they never see it coming.
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>>581708312
wait...what's the profit on that?
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Game desperately needs a killcam.

It feels like a majority of my deaths is by cheats.
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>>581707783
> Stop watching nolife ecelebs with 2000 hours flying virtual helicopters and trying to imitate them
Retard. A vehicle that demands shit tons of precision and fine adjustments to use should not have controls that are unresponsive, wobbly, and constantly doing things you don't intend them to be doing like >>581708002
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>>581708578
>It feels like a majority of my deaths is by cheats.
you're just retarded my friend
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>>581708043
The big spoiler is that you don't ever actually have to land. Almost everyone buys a parachute by default now, and even if they don't have one, they can just die and get rezzed, or you can hover close to the ground and they will be okay.
Same with restocking and refueling. Some bases have a much lower ceiling, but on most ive seen, you can hover a good 20 feet off the ground and still get repaired. And you just dip a little lower if people want to jump in. I pretty much only land at bases when im delivering crates and I need more time to fill them without my helicopter drifting away. But if I fail the landing, I can just reposition the vehicle and wait for repair.

It does seem really annoying at first, but the only way to land safely is to make sure your rolling force is as close to zero as you can. If your helicopter is tipping left or right even a little before you land, it can tip over upon contact because of the unbalanced skids. So just make sure you arent moving left or right on the roll axis at all and you should be okay. Itll take some practice but I never practiced in the range, I just grabbed free helicopters when they spawned throughout the match.
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>>581709178
>the cheater recoils as he has been found out.
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>>581708393
I've only done it once or twice since Havocs are pretty rare, but theyre always in the control zone so you get the bonus, and theres always two people, (pilot+gunner). Last time I remember I got like 18k? from a ram.
Considering a Blackhawk is only 8k from the spawn, and you don't need to worry about flares on your one way mission, you get two attempts to make a profit doing it.
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>>581709364
yeah that's about the mentality i'd expect to you
didn't anyone ever teach you about unfalsifiable beliefs?
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>expect to you
FUCK.
expect from you

>>581707014
>>581705789
yeah nevermind disregard, the sensitivity multiplier does not affect keyboard input whatsoever
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I drove the apc and every schmuck who came out of it after I parked got me a pay. Quickest and easiest 30k I ever made.
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Hm I wonder what lies beyond this adventure.
And I wonder who put that yellow paint in there?
He's been hard at work!
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>>581712558
Only the final jump to go!
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>>581662371
dricing trucks is boring as fuck thats why it pays well.
going around shooting is fun, people will do it for free (counter strike) so they might as well just break even.
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>>581712737
Watch your step so you dont fall into those holes where no one can escape
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>>581713005
Clearly the designer of this intricate nigger rigging wants me to go there
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>>581713195
FFUUUUUUUU-
https://streamable.com/gq2her
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>>581664887
that would be cool
it would give the teams more of a feeling of identity rather than just boring armband colors
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I would spend thousands of hours of fun with this game if they only ditched the entire role progression unlocks, made everything way more expensive, and rebalanced the economy around that. Role progression should only be perks and the only barrier for any gear should be money. At that point, they would be able to balance the available gear better without stomping on anyone's fun. Resetting money every season would still be fine.
But now it's just either be a poopsocket or get farmed by poopsockets. I managed to outposition myself 3 times yesterday, able to unload my mag on someone with the element of surprise but they just flicked around and lasered me to death with the M4. That sucks the first time, but okay, by the third time this happened it just gets extremely grating. And this was with mid-tier gear (mp5, lvl 2 armor).
Even when I outthink them and come up to their flank, it's still a 50/50 shot of actually winning against someone who invested double of the time in-game. That's just very demotivating.
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>mortars give support exp
>unlock the tank with driver level
>artillery unlocks with wardog level
This makes no sense.
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>>581694603
just encountered my first probable cheater in 80 hours
the name was korean
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is it rude to finish other people's buildings or unpack other people's logi drop offs?
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>>581714447
>is it rude to finish other people's buildings
is there even a completion bonus? I thought the only xp you get is when you swing the hammer.
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>>581715276
There's a huge completion bonus, but I think the guy who put it down always gets part of it.
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Even though community servers give more cash or XP or whatever the players are so much worse on official you go way higher in kills and stuff
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>need 70k more exp to get a humvee with a machine gun on it
>by then everyone will have maaws or at mines
pls
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>>581697101
>builds bases behind enemy lines (outside the circle)
>why aren't i getting xp?
maybe they should have called it wartards
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>>581715480
huh, I guess I can proudly say I never knew that cause I am NOT a pussy, but a valiant frontline meatgrind resource :=)
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>>581716059
abuse early abuse often :^)
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how the fuck do you build a mortar???
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>>581713862
I agree
the whole tagline of the game is that money matters, but right now money doesn't matter nearly as much as XP. XP will continue to be more important than money as long as wipes remove your unlocks. they've undermined the entire idea of the game with the shoehorned XP system
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>>581699381
>be named niggerslayer1488
>join community server
>uh, why are you kicking me?
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>>581717163
u need a tier 3 build item the big hammer
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>>581717596
i stole one from an enemy fob and i don't see it on the list
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>>581682453
people go for revives constantly
i know this because i watch the bodies of people i snipe and can usually get 3-4 additional kills from people coming in for revives
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>>581717357
Money doesn't matter at all unless you're fucking retarded
I'm sitting on like $700k with nothing to buy because I don't have the XP
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>>581717797
Look better bb
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>all the useful unlocks are support ones
They really need to do something about this. Counters aside, why on earth would I level up medic or even assault to get some weapons when shotguns just do short/medium range better and also give support exp?
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>>581699325
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fuck this piece of shit fucking game make me drive 80 hours of logi camping faggots to get a fucking tank fuck you Im going to play battlefield
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>finally unlock mosin
>shoot a fobbie from like 700m
>he instantly dies
finally a real sniper
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>>581717357
>shoehorned
That about sums it up. I'm really left wondering what 'problem' they think this progression solves. They just need to cut it and fill it with the little 'do x 5% faster' perks. Nice to have's but the moment you tie essentials to progression, you're creating more problems than you'll ever solve. Shame, though, because the game is really fun, if a bit rough around the edges.
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can you go back to a specific game after the dumb server check kicked you for needing a revive ?
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Why these faggots can't release hotfixes before the wipe? There are so many obvious bullshit design decisions that should be adressed sooner rather than later
>no loadout button
I have no clue how these inbred fags who worked on this game for years, didn't think of a loadout button. It's literally first thing new player notices that's lacking
>mortars should be nerfed to the ground day 1
they take no time to build, ammo for them is cheap and they come with the best scouting tool in game for no good reason making recon class more obselete than it already is
>smg's beam insta kill from 100m away
do they even playtest things they shit out? It's the only class of an infantry weapon i can't react to in time. it literally deletes you in half a second, i have nothing else to say than good to these nigger devs
>drill shouldn't bring HZ to the fob
what the fuck is this shit? It encourages jerk offs to sit at a fob and you end up in a situation where there is 15-20 dudes at single fucking fob
>make infantry kits cheaper or increase their earnings
Why should I spend 10-15k on single fucking kit, go to the hotzone to die before I make my money back, if i could just sit at a base all day and press m1 with my hammer like a fucking retard and end match with 100k+ profit. It costs less to buy rocket heli or SPH, what a joke
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>>581718271
>I'm sitting on like $700k with nothing to buy because I don't have the XP
iktf. I'm doing all sorts of helpful shit, mostly focusing on medic, recon, and driver. I'm mixing it up depending on what is needed, playing with a squad, and making tons of money if I give it my best shot. But I'm sitting on a pile of cash I can't spend on expensive kits or even buy good stuff for squadmates because of no exp. And this is at wardog lvl 55.

>>581720307
>think of a loadout button
Considering there's a button for it, it's something that's going to come fairly soon.
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I'm not gonna enjoy grinding support levels every month
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Teamkilling needs to have a 10x penalty on the cash or have a running count to straight ban you temporarily.
I've been killed twice today just so the guy can loot my kit.
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>>581720307
>>smg's beam insta kill from 100m away
skill diffed
assault rifles are for dick guzzling faggots
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>>581720307
Because they are super excited to share those changes with us in season 2, just be patient and trust their vision since they are in charge
But it is super cool to hear your feedback and your voice is important! :)
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i cant play recon anymore
this shit is taking a toll on my wrist / hand like no other game did, actually making me fear of carpal tunnel
jesus christ
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>>581720307
Preach. The whole economy needs to be changed.
I want Planetside 1 back.
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>>581720889
you can't loot teammates that die to team killing
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>>581718371
nvm im retarded
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>>581721713
Then they were just being dicks, and that's even worse.
Literally had a guy fly over my SAM base, hover for like ten seconds, rocket me, get out, come to my corpse, not rez me, then go back to his heli and fly away. If he wasn't looting IDK what the fuck that was. Just quit on the spot.
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>>581721974
he probably didn't know you can't loot teammates that die to teamkilling either lol
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>>581713862
Fighting anyone with level 4 armor is hellish, letalone armor and a high tier gun. Yeah yeah, leg meta, but if their legs aren't exposed due to low cover like windows or sandbags then you're just fucked. I used an AR to shoot a dude 6 times, twice in the head. Didn't get a kill, dude just casually turned around and obliterated me with a FAL. Damage log worked out to something like me doing 70 damage across those six shots. It's fucking unacceptable.
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>>581721614
youre not getting planetside 1 in the age of UE5. its a miracle we even got 100 players.
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>>581721974
its funny to rile people up some times thobeit :)
Its like joy vampirism :))
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>it's the same guy brings APC to the same place where it gets destroyed in 10 seconds episode season 3
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>>581722395
Well unless you hide the APC somewhere with hard cover overhead immediately, the second any recon tags you there's going to be mortars and artillery raining on your exact position constantly. Even if you ARE in hard cover, they'll still be dropping shells on your roof nonstop.
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>>581708043
>pulling back on the pitch doesn't slow your forward momentum almost at all
>switching to collective descent takes legit 3 seconds to actually start slowing
>being even 15 degrees off of level while landing makes the chopper explode
>really fucking hard to keep level because making the tiny adjustments necessary makes you veer off wildly in one direction
Land vehicles aren't much better
>turn slightly too hard while accelerating
>vehicle spins out like you just jerked the wheel all the way at 100mph
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>>581713862
We do this shit every single thread. Basing the entire ingame progression around cash is the dumbest idea ever but you can't understand that because you're too fucking retarded to understand second order consequences.
If all you need to do to progress is get cash, then the only thing anyone who wants to progress will do is maximise earnings no matter what. People will be running around the zone naked because if they just steal a kit from an enemy or teammate, thats even more profit = even more progress.
People will Fobbit even harder and won't even try to build drills to win the game because all that matters is farming money by hitting X's. I could go on. Its the second most retarded thing ever, the first being you for thinking it would work.

Tarkov had a purely cash progression system where all you needed to get the best gear was Roubles. And theyve spent the last decade trying to restrict that as much as possible because it kills all progression and creates a hellscape of RMT.
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>>581722395
>in base when apc spawns for first time
>get in and drive to our fob
>WHIZZZZZZZZZZZZ
What do you even do bros
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>>581714447
>Buildings
Nope, the guy who initially places even gets a bonus for you completing the building
>Pallets
Also nope, the delivery guy always gets the cash bonus and support xp, even if they dont unpack it themselves. And they also get the ammo supply assist as well, even if they don't unpack.
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>>581723087
>And theyve spent the last decade trying to restrict that as much as possible
yeah because they're faggots that hate fun
there's a reson why tarkov fell off so hard, that's because they designed the game for shitsocking NEETS and streamers and made if FPS World of Warcraft
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>manage to circle around and ambush enemy team with only binoculars equipped and spot like 30 reds getting all of them killed over 4-5min
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why the fuck does recon take so long to level
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>>581723727
i spent like 40 minutes doing that last game, it was fun
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>>581723087
>Basing the entire ingame progression around cash
It's not though, it's around ridiculous level xp

The game would be more balanced if it was cash only
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>>581723216
Smash through one of the theme houses outside the fob and hide the APC in the first floor of the building with your fob a couple blocks away
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I just realized this game isn't even fun
It's slow and frustrating with 10000 boring mechanics centered around sitting in base
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>>581723585
Tarkov kept growing more and more even as they introduced quest locked items, FIR restrictions, and unmarketable items. The reason it fell off is because Nikita is a fat retard who spent millions of dollars trying to make his slavjank into an esport and failing badly. And then spending all his time placating poopsocking twitch streamers who only played PvP whilst half the entire games playerbase migrated to PvE
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FOR THE UMPTEENTH TIME

CRATES ARE FOR EQUIPMENT
PALLETS ARE FOR SUPPLIES

LOOSE AMMO IS EQUIPMENT
"AMMO SUPPLIES" IS FUCKING SUPPLIES
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>>581724558
Yeah real balanced.
All the nolifers and bugmen would be on cashfarming community servers for 20 hours straight, and then they would all have Tier 4 armour and attack helicopters by day 2.
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>>581726253
The ammo pallet fills up the stinger missile, the ciws, and the mortar. If you need individual ammo then ask for it
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>>581726485
OH LOOK IT'S THE 2ND BRAINCELL DOING ITS FUCKING BEST
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>>581726592
Sorry you got mortared by some fobbit on the red team, anon
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>>581676116
anon you've discovered the illusive AP-HP
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>>581724009
It's a comfy playstyle. I do the same in warthunder with the weasel, shooting down planes and scout.
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>>581726796
It isn't that. It's just every thread is full of newbs thinking that crates are useless because they are air dropping them full of building supplies at a markup. NO ONE will buy your crates full of bricks and sandbags. Bring that shit in by pallet. The only supplies that people will even CONSIDER buying from a crate is Fuel and Ammo. And even that is a poor bet because chances are much higher another logiman is bringing a pallet of ammo.

Pilots just don't fucking think.
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wow, so useful!
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>>581727218
i dont see any mortars
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>>581727218
Where's your CIWS?
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>>581723087
>>581713862
the solution is obviously to ditch the moneysystem thats carries over between matches and keep it all contained per match. If you do good you can have some of the neater toys late in the match, use it or lose it yknow
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>>581727360
Mortars aren't useful if your recons are useless and don't know how to report and spot
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>>581727620
correct opinion
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>>581727218
*drops a crate of 50% marked-up building supplies*
Weird, no one is buying.

Meanwhile, the actual logi player is about to drop you a crate full of hammers that WILL sell out.
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>>581727469
>>581727360
why would you need any of those
the supplies are full, so the logi players are happy
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>>581727669
it was very sad, my last 2 games i was one of 2 recons who had most of the map covered but the team never built a single mortar or drill
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>>581723087
>shh, dunning-kruger is speaking
Yeah okay nerd. And what do we see now? People running around maximizing everything towards exp. The outcome of the match doesn't matter, it's all about grinding and then blowing your money for shitting on lower lvl players. How is either of these 'fun', exactly? It's just grind and hollow victories where player skill gets taken out of the equation by the progression. The game needs to be balanced as a whole, weapons need to be operating on a somewhat same level within their category, each with benefits and drawbacks combined with a cost based on those traits. Instead of just being arbitrarily stronger because number goes up.
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>>581727620
Go play cod if you want kill streaks, kiddie
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>>581662717
I hate this shit. The FOB inventories need to be better. Maybe having a small radius around the FOB that merges all supplies in it, and then lets people access the FOB inventory from anywhere in the radius.
It also doesn't help that the crates are practically invisible if they're in a shadow or on mud, which is about 75% of all FOBs.
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>>581727876
"Armory Station" should be a large building that is exactly that. It's an armory for equipment. Crates dropped inside FOB zones should be unpacked to the armory (like pallets to the fob) while crates outside can act the way they do now.
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>>581727853
NTA but his idea is more akin to CS than COD. Kill streaks have nothing to do with it.
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>>581727818
Excuse me, I blow huge wads of money shitting on havoc and tankfags
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>>581727853
go play wow if you want meta progressing and number go up

>>581728053
actually it was a homage to homefront
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>helicopter slowly ascends to the fucking height limit before dropping us
>consider not even pulling my chute since I know we're going to get assraped from every angle the instant we land
Nerf fucking spotting PLEASE
Playing infantry is already enough of a goddamn ball ache
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>fill bag with stims
>run around stimming fobbits
>repeat
is there a better way to level medic?
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>>581728554
Nope. Gotta play the shooty bits of the game if you want to be the white mage.
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>>581728518
>looks at (You)
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>>581728518
so, um, you mean that helicopters should be flying low and landing to deploy players......?
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>>581728731
>landing
What the FUCK is the parachute for then, buddy?
Think, anon.
THINK.
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>>581728731
"Should" and "Will" are unfortunately different things in this world
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>lokata filled with players with grenade launchers and t4 armour keeps strafing our FOB
Lol, lmao
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>every other helicopter pilot is now spamming ride of the valkyries
this is going to get old fast
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>>581719014
in a few days everyone will have t3 helmet and you will need the level 83 ammo to one shot them :)
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>>581729728
TK and tell them "WE A FLIGHT OF THE BUMBLEBEE TEAM BITCH"
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>>581729457
That's literally what the cheese whiz is for, anon
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>>581729728
How does one loop third party music through the game then?
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>>581730325
You need software or hardware to split audio into channels and you just redirect I/O.
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>>581730325
set firefox to output to VAC, listen to VAC, swap input to VAC when you need to play something
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>>581730325
>get in a kodiac
>slav driver blasts some hard bass through his mic
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>>581658981
I just drown a random FOB in crates with 1 (one) build supply in them.
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>>581730630
Actually I was thinking Throw the Jew down the well
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>>581730325
application called soundpad
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I expected at least 6 months but honestly fps players are literally just different now. All the kvetching and marketing of the good ol’ days and in a week I got a game of people to scared to actually shoot, rust bases, and just tryhards no lifing.

They need the remove the wipe, if you don’t play at wipe start exactly it’s over. No changing if progression will help it. You purely need to balance this all with money costs
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>>581731681
I find it insanely ironic their marketing was all about old school fps fun and anti streamer and it’s actually a fuckin sweat fest made for streamers
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I fucking love this game. It let's us who enjoy the aspect of war asmr, lying and watching the war, be useful in the game. I got 3 achievements, 100k in one life, 60min in one life, top dog earner.
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wait the tower code resets if somebody activates their own drill? thats fucking stupid
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>>581732109
what's your observation spot? i feel like finding a good one is impossible, but maybe im just not far enough out.
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>>581731681
>tryhards no lifing

I wish I could neet on welfare instead of going to work
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>>581727669
b-but going reporting conflict like that is dangerous!
How can I stay back and get epic 800 meter headshots and sniper duels I'm in the mud spying on a convoy
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>>581726991
Nobody buys the fucking loose ammo and medical supplies either, even when they fucking ask for it. Crates are only good for supplying yourself during partisan work.
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>>581731681
I really dont understand the obsession with wipes in nu-games. I know tarkov does them every few months, which seems to work, but I imagine I will put Wardogs down at some point and when I come back to it there will always be a wipe less than a month away, which will just make me not want to play at all.
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>>581732289
For that one my tactic worked great, find the enemy base and sit and basically hide in plain sight. I caught the red team pushing in the entire round. Getting in early is the most important part, ask for a deep drop by the pilot.

Catching all the helis dropping people in, I thwarted like 4 12player drops.
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>>581732707
Are you marking it up? Would YOU buy a $350 bandage? Or a $700 resuscitator? The only time you should be rubbing your hands in this game is when you are rezzing with no equipment.
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>>581732948
No, I never mark shit up past the default 25 percent. Otherwise I'm just straight losing money running supplies.
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>11 body hits or 5 headshots with assault rifles to kill someone using lvl 4 armor
>8 and 4 if you happen to have unlocked AP ammo

wtf is this clown shit
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>>581733898
this game has comically good armor
like a single player rpg
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>>581733898
Armor, armoring?
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>tfw the recording glitched out and didn't show me tracking this guy directly into my team.

This is the sort of location you want to be in, behind enemy lines to give your team the info on pushes.
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>>581731681
they need to think of a new system or way the game is going to be played with unlocks
cant see myself playing this if i miss season start, like all the initial weapons besides the smg are absolute dogshit and not fun, even when everyone is low level they were dogshit and not fun. only AK is ok and you still need to unlock it
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>>581733898
Someone posted a screenshot of AP ammo fully penetrating a headshot to a target behind and not doing enough damage to kill. The damage model is 100% arcade.
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>>581733718
You dropping this shit in the middle of the street with no cover? Inside of FOBs? There is clearly a reason other than "the mean idiots asked for bandages and no one bought my bandages."
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>>581733093
He didn't fly so good
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>>581733898
It does make you stupidly slow
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>sit directly in front of fobbits for 30 minutes
>never get seen
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>>581732212
towers are only useful as a sniper nest
the mechanic is bad
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Who else?
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>>581734716
See above you, anon.
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>>581734135
I actually asked why one time. The reason given for not buying requested rockets for an RPG to deal with vehicles was "Well, there was a humvee so..." They were holed up in one of those five story apartments. I dropped the box on their roof, where they asked me to drop it.
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>get downed next to some of my teammates in the HZ
>start pumping up the rewards as someone comes running to help
>at about $300 they yell: make it $500 and I'll revive you
>I was going to but now I don't
>"Just make it $500 dude and I'll revive you"
>his buddy comes in "You'll have to buy your entire kit otherwise"
>I give up before giving the nigger an extra $200

Unprincipled medics, this is how you get the guy you didn't help to switch teams and hunt you down, I was going to rise it up to $500 if you didn't open your mouth.
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>>581735142
Can't do anything about that. Sometimes you do just supply idiots. If you are truly "above" driving in 2 pallets on a ural maybe supply drops just aren't for you. Stick to personnel.
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>>581729728
>"you know, I heard bad things happen when you play that song"
>drop their flares out
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>>581679185
special client not publicly available.
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>>581733898
if enemy is up armored stop taking fights in the open
take an smg that can shred them up close
they are super slow so repositioning is a bitch
and they take the same amount of frags as usual
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>>581733898
>lvl1 armor lets you tank direct hit from RPG
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>>581735420
Eat the 500 loss, let him revive you, then kill him
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>AYO I BE HATIN THESE NOOBTUBIN ASS NIGGAS WHAT IF WE MADE DESE ARPEEGEES DOGSHIT MAYNE
a look into a niggerdev's mind
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>>581734442
good thing campers/snipers/humveegunners/etc dont need to move :)()
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>>581737815
Probably more like pseudo intellectual think tank on "weapon grades" and the Ar Pee Gee Seven is low tier because it's old and made by worthless communists.
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>>581737558
a jet of copper blowing through my chest is a mere flesh wound
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>>581737815
I don't get it though, in cod the noob tube is the 40mm
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>>581738027
noobtube changes per game. Most noobtubes refer to auto-shotguns or SPECIFICALLY an m79 thumper.
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>>581738027
>>581738132
i am a master of the propipe
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the problem with 3 teams is that no matter which team you are against you get the exact same exp and cash for same action
that means the 2nd team rather than fight the 1st together with 3rd will just farm the weak 3rd
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>>581734506
also works in the hot zone. as long as you stand still you CANNOT be seen.
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>>581738939
edge of building is risky since people will sweep those with binocs
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>>581738939
are you playing this on a 1060 3GB or something goddamn boy
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>>581739604
If you can't appreciate potato mode you aren't a real gamer.
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>>581738905
Anon that means you're a prostitute
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The only entire purpose of blue team is raping your money. These devs need to fix this shit immediately.
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Spent a whole game raping fobbits with 12g slugs and a 3x, eventually they gave up and didn't take the fob back
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>>581739604
I put a 1070 in to enable potato mode then put my 5080 back in
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>>581739710
if you tip, im anything you want me to be
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>>581732109
inspirational post
just got the fat stacks cheevo myself and 60min surely to come shortly
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mostly due to the allied havoc terrorizing the tower i'm spotting at every 5 minutes lol
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>>581732872
Like on top of their base or just near it?
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>yeah so uhh the infantry kit is gonna cost 12k minimum and the instarape immune to everything except one level 20 support launcher car will cost uhh 3.5k
What kind of retarded faggot math is this?
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>>581740828
Cant rez a humvee
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>>581732289
buying a quad/buggy and driving around outside of the circle to infil at a good spot has been my go-to. people can be very blind in this game, especially if you're not blue and aren't moving, so with a little luck and good timing you can post up basically anywhere. the keys to a good vantage point is concealment, rarity, and highground, in that order
highground is the most appealing but also oftentimes very vulnerable, and very common. finding a nice 2-story house with decent coverage of a fob or the hotzone or wherever beats a spot with perfect coverage but you'll get folded if anyone clears it (and they will, because the spot has perfect coverage)
also, confidence. start moving like jake gyllenhaal nightcrawler. you can get away with a lot, people's attentions are split and oftentimes even if someone sees you, as long as you're being careful with your positioning, you have a window to give them the slip while they panic and try to bring their guns to bear
anyways my best round i drove myself to a spot near one of green's edge-of-map towers, RPG'd a couple helis, and then switched to spotting. my first spot was in front of their tower but behind a rock, and i sat there fully exposed to the people on the road and in the tree line in front of me but they just never saw me.
after a bit i found an opportunity to relocate and i just sent it, made it to a crane, and just chilled there staring at the fob or the men in the tree lines, absolutely farming cash. people tend to not check certain spots like that if there isn't fire coming from it, too visually noisy to pick out a silhouette or something
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>>581740828
my infantry kits cost less than 2k
>free backpack
>first SMG or double barrel
>stack of shells/one spare magazine
>free revive tool
>level 1 armor and helment
That is enough to get a kill, then you just scavenge everything else. Scavenge off dead teammates too.
If you die, who cares it was less than 2k.
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>>581741931
this strategy is literally borne out of actual infantry kits being too expensive/unrewarding
being at the mercy of RNG also sucks and half these retards are still using vert grips on the fucking galil, fuck that noise
i don't have gear fear so i'm buying full kits anyways and i'm generally still making 100k profit end of match
but it does pain me knowing that when i look at the scoreboard i'm going to be making a fraction of the profit of people with 1-7-3 KDAs cuz dey be swingin' da hammer reall guuud boss
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>>581740828
you haven't actually driven an m249 humvee
it's not very effective unless you're in the infantry deathball or raping defenseless fobbits
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low cortisol gameplay
gunplay is just not fun anymore given the insane prevalence of cheaters
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>>581737558
actually it doesn't; you tank that baseline
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>>581740828
Cuz the whole fucking game is placeholder. There's nothing interesting or unique in the game,at all. The basics are so shitty too. There are not even weapons to complain about, they're all shit since theres only like 3 anyway.
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>>581742828
>cheaters
I haven't seen any blatant ones but plenty of sus ESP shit. It also FEELS like you're getting fucked on by cheaters because of the insane peekers advantage in this game
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after playing since release i think I'm done for this "season". Unless they add palpable changes with the new "season" Ill probably skip that one too.
Game definitely steadily declined since launch day, in both gameplay and teamwork
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>>581742712
I've seen streamer(s) literally farm with a solo Humvee for 24 hours straight. That thing is fucking insane, and your loadout can repair it and keep you alive very easily.
>>581743253
DrDisrespect has had a cheater in every game since launch. They do nothing to them; they're everywhere. Open your eyes.
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>>581743253
>plenty of sus ESP shit
if you parachute in you're spotted which means everyone knows exactly where you are
that + sound cues means if you're spotted and your opponent isn't, they will defile you
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>>581743253
I see blatant ones all the time. Like in that game there was a guy 53/0/22 at that point already.
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>>581743841
>unironically watching dr. kid-inspect
it's okay he started a right wing grift after getting exposed, that means he's le based or something
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>try out the DLSS frame generation to see what it looks like and how it feels
>don't really notice any difference in handling, perhaps a bit jellyish at times
>but now literally every shadow and bush moves like someone went in there to hide just before you saw him go, just some movement

>walking in a quiet forest
>hear steps that are actually distant gunshots
>see fucking AI leafmen everywhere
never playing with that setting again, made the game truly spoopy
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For some reason, watching some guys shooting artillery from outside the zone reminded me of Advance Wars. Never played Dark Conflict, maybe it's time to try it since lvl 500 sweaty neets with everything unlocked are sucking the joy out of the game already
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>>581744267
Just remember that Twitch paid the thing to stay out of court; no police or child-welfare department found any illegal activity.
Anyway, he is still one of the best streamers on the planet; too bad he plays complete shit games 90% of the time.
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>>581745828
>he is still one of the best streamers on the planet
Do you have any real human beings you speak to in your life?
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>>581721614
>I want Planetside 1 back.
I've got to remember to not miss the next community revival event on psforever or whatever it's called.

Honestly I would get down on my knees and slobber on the knob of any dev who said they were making planetside 3.
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oh... this thread is full of people who only watch streamers and don't play the game
that explains everything
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>>581732872
>>581741841
Any time I try this the hot zone comes straight to me and it just so happens that all three teams are deathballing so 60 dudes break my bussy open whether I try to move or not. I'm thinking of AFKing under a tractor or some shit just to get the 60 minute cheevo
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>>581740828
>lmg + bipod costs 4000
>lmg + humvee costs 3750
really makes you think
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who actually thought this armor system was a good idea? between armor and their shitty servers, I have to pump a minimum of 20 bullets into everyone now just to have a chance at killing them. what kind of fucking gameplay is this? even battlebit did gunplay better holy shit how embarrassing
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>>581747792
shoot leg
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>>581732356
It's not about having a job or being a neet, it's about being a grown adult who can even fathom playing 8+ hours of video games per day. How, as an adult, can you even engage with something like that for so long without getting bored or craving something else to do with your time? It betrays NPC thinking, these people who play all day every day have revealed they are basically Hylics who can't see the apple when they think about it.
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for all their pre-launch communication they haven't said shit last week outside of bremmer's twitter. i think a dev blog at the end of this week (half way into the season) saying what they're looking to change in season 2 and when the wipe will be will go a long way
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I cannot wait to get the ghillie suit.
60 minute shitbucket games of watching fobbits run around.
Maybe I’ll even get lucky and have a team that builds mortars/pulls arty tanks and shells my spots.
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>>581749239
Enjoy doing it again in two weeks
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>>581747792
Yeah I don't understand how they thought any of this would be intuitive or feel good to play against in the slightest. The new player experience is awful. I've already had three of my friends refund this game because it's unplayable for them, they're mag dumping dudes in t4 armor and getting their shit rocked repeatedly by mounted humvees and rocket littlebirds. It's all of the shittiest parts of ARMA Koth exasperated because the wipes aren't server to server.
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>200k spotting game
>only gave half a level at recon 19
Im not gonna make it...
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>>581749972
Whether I do it again depends largely on what they say the future wipe plans are.
If they persist with the resets might try for a refund to put towards the new ace combat.
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Towers should be build-blocked
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>>581706190
rifle aim is a shitty crutch
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>>581751480
twoers shouldn't exist
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>>581751590
>rifle aim is a shitty crutch

Uh, how? A helicopter stick is an analog interface. Moving a mouse is more akin to a helicopter control than pressing digital keys on a keyboard.
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https://steamcommunity.com/id/2327563/
invite me to the pub stomp squad niggers
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>>581750649
yeah cause you get 1/5 the exp for spotting versus getting KILLS.
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>>581737815
and they still included an actual noob tube which is locked behind lvl grind which means its busted as fuck
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>>581740828
attachments don't break
vests don't break
mags don't break
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couple of questions:
>Is there a way to tell if a server is due to close after the current game?
It's really geting old to sit through 5 minutes to ten minutes of queue shit, just to join a match at 10-10-95 and then the server shuts down after, it's making me dread even booting the game up.
>How hard do I need to account for range?
I was recently on ozeti (football pitch map) and found a good spot that let me overlook from outside of CZ into a tower and the pitch. But the range was about 550 to the pitch, and a little over 800 for the tower. 550 is right in between 500 and 600, so naturally I'm aiming at like neck for headshots, but it almost always goes even lower to chest. Do I need to be just saying "500-549 = 500 and 550-600 = 600"? there's not really a good way to test it in the firing range, sadly.
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>>581741931
skip the amour and helmet, level one gives you like one extra bullet and 99% they will be overkilling you by couple anyway
get a spotting tool it pays off itself and is always useful
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>>581753273
spotting tool yes but lv1 armor means you win mirrors vs other people with free guns
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>>581747792
what the fuck are you talking about
unless you're using HP the absolute maximum of bullets to kill someone wearing t4 and shooting the armored part is 19 with 5.56, and you'd have to be shooting upper arm EXCLUSIVELY
they don't take 20 bullets
you fire 20 bullets and miss 13
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>>581753971
>maximum of bullets to kill someone wearing t4 and shooting the armored part is 19 with 5.56
you unironically typed this and thought it sounded good in any way.
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>>581753074
>It's really geting old to sit through 5 minutes to ten minutes of queue shit
Nigga just join a server that's 60-80/100, that means it just started a new round
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>>581753971
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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>>581753074
For the range thing you need to account for height too. You can over or undershoot dramatically because of it.
Basically actually calculating it requires specialized tools and it's why sniper teams are two people. Just get good at Arkansas elevation, and maybe look up what those marks on your scope mean. You don't actually need to rezero most of the time.
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the only parabola i can draw is a warlock's burst glide
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>>581754818
Okay, see that's what I thought, maybe it was angle-
EXCEPT, I do not have this issue on the tower, at 800 (like 805-810m) I can just point and shoot, never have any issues and it always goes dead on, it's why I feel like there's some sort of oddity with middle ranges between zeros.
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>>581753074
>>581754818
>How hard do I need to account for range?
Or you can do the following

>Rangefind
>550m
>Set scope to 500m
>Shoot a test shot at a wall and see where the bullet hits
>"Hmm yes, I need to aim 2 inches above to get it dead center"

That's it.
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>>581755146
>fire a shot to test
>everyone now knows exactly where you are because even suppressed snipers are fucking thunder with a radius of 800petametres
no. You get one shot to make shit right.
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>>581755312
Have you actually played sniper in this game?
Unless you are using no suppressor or flash hider people rarely react to sound, they only realize where you are because of the kill cam. If you can't get a shot by feel at that range, do that until you get used to.
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>>581755645
I'm up to the mk22. 90% of my sniping is within 300m and there's never an issue at that distance, it's very smooth. but when I find those outliers where the range is in between two zeros it completely fucks shit up no matter how I try to account.
I must be in a different universe or something, every match I've played since the weekend started has at least 1, usually 2 havocs, rocket lbs, tanks, and arty all over, roaming humvees with MAAWs and 40mms hunting down enemy arty. They're fucking ON YOUR ASS if they catch a whiff.
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>>581755819
i think you're just unlucky, my games have been normal, i saw my first havoc today after being home sick since friday and doin almost nothing else but playing this
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>>581747878
Doesnt excuse SHIT design
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The economy in this game makes no goddamn sense.
At all.
Why are 5 banadges 1k?
Why does the humvee w/ m249 nearly as much as a m249 on its own?
Why does it take 3 fucking rpgs to kill a humvee?
What the fuck is the point in taking out a assault/mg kit when you get infinetly more value just spotting people?
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>>581753074
just join a server at 10/100. they snowball and fill up in under a minute. never had an issue
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>>581753353
it's not a roleplaying game with mirror matches, it's a shooter with a shitty netcode and you might think you shoot him six times but on his screen you were dead before a single shot
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>>581756138
Balancing and it's not a real warzone, no, you can't get revived and be combat ready right away IRL if you fall from 50 meters in the air or got headshotted either
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>>581756138
One day, the meta will devolve into people just staring at eachother with binoculars for an hour
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>>581756278
i get like 23 ping tops so it applies to me
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>nobody team communicates
I don't fucking get it. Do none of you retards know how to type in shorthand? You don't have to write in the queens flowery eloquent English, assholes
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>>581756807
People talked a lot more in the playtests and the first week. I don't know why people gradually stopped.
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3 rpgs to kill a humvee really is stupid tho hes right
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>>581756984
because normalfags are on discord, and now that everyone who wants in is in, they're on discord. Groups are on discord, coordination is on discord, devs tell you to use discord apps and websites, the OP for this VERY FUCKING THREAD has a website to use INSTEAD of communicating ingame.
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>>581757131
>discord
But I'm not a sex trafficker
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>>581757276
sucks to suck. that's where everyone is.
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>>581756997
one-shot kill if you hit the engine
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>>581757358
sex trafficking?
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>>581757131
'clans' shouldn't be allowed to join servers. 'clans' should be forced to enter 32 v 32 v 32 competitive MLG servers where they can be pro gamer tryhards all they want.
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>>581757418
According to m00t's relationship with the Epchad, yes.
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>>581757398
There's level my suspension of disbelief can uphold. An uparmored Humvee taking three heat-warheads from an RPG is beyond that. It's stupid. From all points of view, including in-game balance, the humvee is cheap and effective, and it costs less to buy than a fucking kit using the same mounted weapon system it has.
>inb4 it's not arma bro
ok, you got me there, guess I'll go back to playing reforger or arma 3.
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>>581757798
>maximum of bullets to kill someone wearing t4 and shooting the armored part is 19 with 5.56
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>>581754480
if you somehow managed to hit nineteen fucking shots in the upper arm (which does not include the shoulder, mind you) instead of anywhere else then you deserve to die
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>>581758372
>maximum of bullets to kill someone wearing t4 and shooting the armored part is 19 with 5.56
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fairly balanced
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>>581758520
Sorry for not supporting the team, I'm acting on my own to go through this horrible progression process.
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>>581757398
oh yeah that totally makes it better, RETARD
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>>581757798
armor in this game is absurdly broken
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>>581757870
>he just hits me once or twice maybe
>7HP left
The gap is ridiculous. He could have won and likely would have if I didn't pursue it after reload. Just because he doesn't even empty his pissbottles. I can deal with getting shot by a sniper 500m away, that's fair. Shoot me in back? Good on you. Lucky mortar on the HZ? Sure, whatever. Run me over with a humvee, why not.
But die just because the guy has armor I don't have access too? Lamest shit ever.
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>>581758959
dont forget how AP ammo is not a low level unlock so you cannot deal with it without playing for like 30 hours
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>>581756138
shit that doesn't break/gets used up gets a price hike
shit that the enemy can jack off your body gets a price cut
shit that mainly helps the rest of the team gets a price cut
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>swap to the galil after using the pump shotgun with slugs due to losing too many close range trades because armour lets you tank at least one slug
>do infinitely better and stop losing 1v1s
it kinda sucks that shotguns are so ass in this game. What even are the meta choices for guns, I only see galils and a rare T4 guy with a drum mag smg.
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Would the equivalent of a T2 Helmet IRL be able to protect you from a Mosin Nagant shooting FMJ at 250m?
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AP ammo not being low level is the fucked part, same with all the issues
It's all that the counter is as high level or higher than the thing itself
Can't deal with helis? Have to grind like hell for the vespa
Can't deal with armor? Good fucking luck getting AP
Can't shoot through the humvee? Grind like hell for MAAWS
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>>581758454
don't shoot the limbs
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Remove artillery shell camera.
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>>581759343
Helmets are pretty iffy in general for actually getting shot. They mostly protect against shrapnel and bumping your head. A "T2" is probably level II, which would not be rated to stop a full caliber rifle round at all. However, even a III (which is rated to stop a FMJ full caliber rifle) won't just magically dissipate all the energy. It won't penetrate, but can still just concuss the shit out of you or have the backplate pierce your scalp. Plus, because helmets are curved, the angle of incidence is super important, and because your neck is a pivot, there's going to be a lot of torque.
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>>581759304
galil, FAL, m249
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>>581759434
tbf the best aa is built by large hammer which is not a long grind
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>>581759923
Sure, but then you need to build a whole fucking base too.
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>>581759985
it's shockingly viable
there really aren't that many recons combing the map for fobs, even though there should be
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>>581759985
>now that I built the thing I want, I NEED TO go and place a bunch of fucking useless shit around, while it sits with noone manning it
uh... no?
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>>581760183
You can build one easily, it's just extremely time intensive. It takes like 5+ minutes to get a ural, drive it to a place, hammer away, etc. It's also expensive, >$13k. So you have to kill multiple helicopters to make it worth your time. There's not a quick counter item that's easily accessible.

>>581760206
You have to build the FOB, if you don't build some sort of wall around it it'll get blown up instantly too, so a wall. Then you need to build your CWIS/SAM, which probably needs a bunker to sit on so you can actually see shit, and then another wall so you don't get instantly sniped. Plus, the weapon itself is a super long build time.
If you forgo the walls you're just begging for a rocket helo to flares your ass and kill you and your fob instantly or for a sniper to dome you before you even finish building the weapon. And if you think you can stealth, you can't. There's a massive smoke trail everyone can see if you do a SAM, and the fuckoff loud "WHRRRRRRRRRRRRRR BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ" if you CWIS.
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>>581760206
I'm sorry to say, this game might not be for (you)
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>>581759837
Thank you for the explanation anon, I didn't think about the inside deforming actually hurting like fuck but it makes sense
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>>581760632
well yeah, it's time intensive and expensive, but you get to waste the time of many enemies, that's kind of the point. it's the same expense as one of those top of the line infantry kits
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>>581759343
it's generally unlikely but IRL helmets have stopped rounds as big as 7.62x54r or larger before, it largely depends on factors like what angle the bullet hits the helmet at and so on
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>>581759069
>lvl 75 for 9mm AP
Great stuff. I'd still consider it terribly onboarding for new players but somewhat excusable if I were a low level. But I'm lvl 56 and I feel like lvl 10 when going up against these sweats. If they wanted me to "play like I used to," they should have made a game where the player improves mechanically and not his character through some arbitrary level-must-go-up system.
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>>581761405
>they should have made a game where the player improves mechanically and not his character through some arbitrary level-must-go-up system.
Anon, they're literally adding role playing game stats next season
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>bipod for the first LMG costs 1k
Why does this LMG cost more than the humvee with the same LMG on top of it. Why are infantry kits so fucking expensive.

>>581761405
>they should have made a game where the player improves mechanically and not his character through some arbitrary level-must-go-up system.
There's a skill tree coming later too, it's only going to get worse in that regard.
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>>581761405
what the fuck is this accuracy
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>>581757798
Lmao only 9mm, basically bb pellets
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Remove the artillery and mortar shell camera.
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>>581760632
nobody blows up FOBs unless it's one with a drill
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the ggx18 is the most powerful gun in the game
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>>581761987
i do
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>>581761768
thats fucking retarded level 100 players are gonna have call of duty perks now too?
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>>581761768
Yeah. This game is dead after it's first wipe lmfao.
Good luck everyone who thugs it out.
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>>581761693
>>581761768
>role playing game stats
The little "you now do X a little faster" things, you mean? That's somewhat agreeable too if it offers nothing ridiculously overpowered. That's more flavor than anything. I'm not against having some form of progression, but it should not be locking gear.

>>581761810
Just the MP5 doing its thing

>>581761842
SMGs should have their limits, both in penetrating power and range. I'm not arguing with any of that. But more than a mag at this distance? Come the fuck on. It just looks goofy, compared to the lower armor guys I shot next. At a larger distance.
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doomer status?
>crying, seething and soiling xirselves, as usual
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>>581761768
Where did you find this anon?
Ive only ever seen the unfinished version with placeholder names
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>>581762318
and you keep losing, baka
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>>581756483
Same here, I'm between 17 and 33 and still very sussy deaths where I take seven hits in one server tick
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>>581762796
the high i get from ruining another solo guy on the other team's fun is better than the high from winning the game

it's a sadist thing, you may not understand
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>>581762748
Just the first result when searching it, apparently it's from a devblog video?

>>581762703
Having high level players have reduced recoil seems a bit much. Especially seeing as they already will have the best attachments, and now they'll basically get an extra attachments worth of bonuses to their guns.
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>>581762705
The resets are going to make this game lose players, Bremmer.
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>>581763214
most long-term bonuses like this are tiny things like 2% bonus or whatever. if it's a sizable bonus it would be bad yes
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the skill tree is all ground vehicle handling improvements
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>>581760632
>You have to build the FOB, if you don't build some sort of wall around it it'll get blown up instantly too
Just had a game where I was sitting at the edge of blue side CZ, the only things I built was a couple of blocks to prop the AA missile higher up and then I made an indirect fire bunker and built a CIWS on top of the bunker. Whoa, so deep and hard
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>>581763586
on that note, how do you build one of those enclosed mortar bases?
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>>581763537
I'm still going to crash my Ural in the river to the sound of eurobeat
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>can't fly a heli with gamepad because the default layout puts both collective raise and fire weapon on the right trigger so if you fly a heli with guns the right trigger does neither
>can't rebind
>use steam controller overlay
>can fly the heli perfectly
>but now my driving controls are fucked
Look, I infantry with m+kb and use gamepad for vehicles. I didn't think this was such a rare position as to not support it.
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>>581763214
I tried to find the actual source but its just redditors circle jerking.
In the "Early Access and Beyond" video they show the skill tree but its all placeholder names, so I don't know where the redditors got the finished skill tree with actual skill names and everything.

I think it might be completely fabricated so take all the information outside of "there will be a skill tree with minor permanent upgrades" as redditor lies.
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The game balance is fine, unlocks are balanced.

There's no powergap between low unlocks and high unlo-AAAAAACCCKKKK
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>>581764230
75 damage headshot with a tankshell? Lmfao WHAT
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>>581764230
That's realistic. I could survive it too
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>>581763709
Build an indirect fire shelter facing towards the enemies you want to shoot. Destroy the two walls in the middle but leave the outside walls of the shelter. Put the mortar halfway inside the shelter and surround it with 1 block Hesco's and sandbags, close up the remaining walls of the shelter and maybe place a door or something.
You cant hit targets within ~250m because you end up hitting the ceiling, and obviously your angle of attack is limited, but unless they land a shell directly into the hole above half the mortar pit, its pretty safe.

Also one quick tip, when you start building the mortar pit, hit it from outside. If you hit it from inside the shelter, the X will get stuck as part of the shelter floor and you cant hit it and building takes way longer.
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>>581764502
because that's not an HE shell. HE does like 150.
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>>581764230
What the fuck are these devs on man.
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>>581764629
I don't know man, you shouldn't be able to survive a direct tankshell to the forehead
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>>581763709
Just basic wall combo cuck cage.
Most important thing is to not leave any sand cubes visible to the outside because they are weak.
And put the concrete blocks on top of each other so that the L-leg that is on the ground is facing the eneme, and the second on top of it goes the other way
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>>581764762
No, but it's in line with RPGs and MAAWs also only doing 70-80 damage direct. They're meant for vehicles so they do less damage to people for some stupid fucking reason. At least you can buy HE for tanks, can't do that for RPGs or MAAWs, you only get what you get.
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>>581764230
yea that's what I woulda did
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would a vg server be desirable
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>>581762630
I'm surprised it's still top 3 with how exhausting the meta is right now
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>>581764821
Let anyone say whatever the fuck they want, an RPG shot still moves at 115-140 meters per second and is not light in weight exactly. Even if it was a practice rocket so not explosive it should be almost certainly fatal on a direct hit.
And I don't care if some poeople irl have survived similar accidents but come on a bullet to the face is a bullet to the face, doesn't matter how plastered your brains are because they are plastered
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I play these games as green where blue and red both rush our typical fob locations and murder the pathetic fobbits before they have walls up, thereby cucking us out of a base. But without a base the whole team becomes a pile of violence and we just follow the hz all game with the apc and win.
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>>581764629
Theres only 1 type of tank shell anon...
But to be fair, .308 which includes the minigun humvee and the coaxial on the tank absolutely shreds heavy armor. The tank shells are just for hitting people behind cover, blowing up gates and bullying fobbits.
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>>581764926
no, the wardogs thread has like 40 people tops posting regularly, it's getting one thread a day on /v/ which is like 80% the same people from here. It would fail to start unless you set it to 5 each team, and that's very not fun.
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>>581765148
It's not even as lucrative as it would be in a prolonged game. These short as fuck "green team wins" rerun episodes are so short that you get pitiful rewards
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>>581765162
The devs disagree with you and their word is law, sorry, it's staying that way, they want specific things to be useful for specific things.
>>581765195
??????
go into the firing range, bud.
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>>581765229
If theres less than 60 players, the cash and xp gets heavily reduced to. Up to 85% less for 15 players in a server
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ATTENTION TO ALL THE FAT RETARDS IN THE AUDIENCE, REPEAT AFTER ME:

WARDOGS IS NOT A MILSIM
>WARDOGS IS NOT A MILSIM
WARDOGS IS NOT A MILSIM
>WARDOGS IS NOT A MILSIM
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>>581764616
that makes sense and yea ive already noted the pecularities with the x
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unlocking artillery and seeing more of the destruction is awesome.
But, I really don't like how you can't properly topple the apartments on these maps.
You can obliterate small houses, why can't you blow up the apartments? You can turn it into a skeleton that wouldn't hold up under it's own weight but the roof stays perfectly in tact no matter what.
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>>581765681
thats not really the argument here
the argument is that a helmet blocking a rocket is fucking retarded
this isn't unreal tournament, it's vaguely grounded in reality
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>>581765358
Well funny that because RPG is right now as it is useful for pretty much nothing because it's a whole lot of weight and inventory space to carry. Just for the off chance that you encounter a harasser on a non-humvee vehicle or get a once in a year chance where a chopper is close and slow enough to hit
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a tank round, whatever, same difference
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>>581765681
wardogs is standaloe arma koth
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>>581765358
Theres only 6 types of rockets in the whole game and theyre all proprietary retard.

40mm for the rotary grenade launcher
155mm for the arty cannon
84mm for the recoilless
93mm for the RPG
35x228 for the anti air tank
120mm HEAT for the main battle tank

The main battle tank only has a single type of ammo for the main cannon, but you can use armor piercing and HP ammo for the coaxial and top mounted m249.
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>>581765681
Then they should add Nicki Minaj and power ranger skins. Maybe some fortnite dances.
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The gunner armor on the lmg kodiak looks like it would protect him as well as the gunner armor on the humvee but actually it's made of the same paper-like material as the rest of the kodiak.
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>>581765681
There are a ton of non-milsim games that are more realistic than Warcocks right now.
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>>581766038
>https://www.autismparentingmagazine.com/black-and-white-thinking-in-autism/
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>WARDOGS
Eats a 120mm APSDFS round to the helmet
>IS
Buys a Humvee with an M249 for the cost of 30 bandages.
>NOT
Tanks two RPGs in uparmored humvee
>A
Can reliably tank 17 rounds of 5.56.
>MILSIM
Licks the boot.
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>>581765751
Theres also a method using the sniper tower where you break a corner but keep the roof, that would give you a larger firing angle hypothetically. But I found its too much work compared to the indirect fire shelter.
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fug :DD

at least I killed enough for them to get annoyed enough to come after me
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>>581766207
terrible angle to shoot at anyways
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>>581766145
Those are more realistic and tolerable than a person surviving a direct hit with a tank shell so my autism is right, and your boring ass normie sweatlord defense of bad game development is lame and retarded
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>>581766207
>go for a cheeky stinger filled Kodiak forestry excourse as Blue
>Blue is losing badly
>someone in the chat cries "shit team, that one dude isn't even in the HZ!" meaning me
kek
I will have my fun regardless if it's good for the team or not.
I did get 5 heli kills and a couple of assists before I was harassed away from my car and it self-destructed.
The self-destruct timer is ridiculously short when I'm still very cleaarly in the vicinity of the car.
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this got me top earner
honestly quite pitiful
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>>581766702
I got top earner with like 103k day 1 just sitting and building.
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>>581766284
I was fairly sure he was out of flares so i went for it
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I said this before and I'll say it again:

Low rank unlocks only server will save the game.
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>>581767128
that's straight up just level caps, they already exist, the options are already available, no one uses them because community servers suck dick. They'll need to set max level 20 servers to get anything serious out of this, that's pretty much the cap for all the trees before things get stupid.
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>doomsissies having mental health episodes about gun balance in a 0.0.1 early access shooter
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Manticore can't mortar for shit. Just full of shitty builders and tower snipers
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>set up a cheeky camouflaged talon fob
>down two transport helis
>try to kill a minigun LB and miss
>dude spends 15 MINUTES autistically hovering around my FOB trying to kill me while I hide behind trees
>finally leaves and comes back with a friend to clear me
>they get out of the LB to find me
>run out from the tree and steal their LB
>kill them both
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Alright, pilotnigger here, I gave a honest try to both KB/M and HOTAS configs, and all I gotta say is any other pilotnigger reading this who isn't on KB/M just bite the bullet and learn kb/m controls. Minigun LB is a rape machine with mouse aim.
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>>581767448
It's the HZ zerg faction, no need to mortar or build when you hold the HZ 80% of the time
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>>581767372
My favorite is when they make a big deal about them dropping the game as if anyone cares
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>>581768232
I think a lot of the whiner-type and "for this reason I'm out" people just deep down want someone to rant to or bond over the experience of the allegedly terrible game.
Also the big deal about quitting is always best left ignored, usually results in an amusing reaction
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>>581768563
Dude, the wipes are going to kill player count.
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>you think the game is good?
>yeah, well, get this:
>the number of players is going to decline after launch
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>>581767128
Set everyone's cash at $10,000 and let everything be unlocked at round start. Minimum cash available cash is set to $6,000. There I solved the game.
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>>581768923
Sounds like an excellent way to let teams snowball even harder
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>>581768783
I agree, I've been saying the same thing. It seems like a very FOTM game, I hope it cost a lot to make.
Although the dude who handles their twitter seems like the kind of prick that doesn't even care if he goes bankrupt. He will just somehow spin it into a "well I did everything I was supposed to do, I cant help that the players are dumb and my idea was honestly great, it is the children who are wrong"
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>>581769326
almost like they did exactly that not once, not twice, but THREE times before with their other failed projects.
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>>581769326
>I hope it cost a lot to make
15 million, anon. It's already broke even and made money hand over fist.
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I think eventually the balance will be around t2 armor and level 10-20 gear being the average kit based on cost with everything higher and all vehicles getting massive price hikes to make them less spammable and more of a situational thing. Couple that with the eventual crafting/vault stuff so that you can make and store the expensive stuff for later use and it just makes sense. That and making the mortar and talon cost a lot more ammo supplies per shot
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I found a random fob that only had 2 guys defending it and kept killing them and taking it only for them to keep coming back and dying. I was having fun watching them look around for me. After the fourth time they didn't come back. MY FOB BITCHESSSS. Also I told them to go back to china.
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>>581766145
You should read that yourself, nigger.
RPGs can kill someone without the game being a milsim.
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I love the game but they desperately need to equalize the progression otherwise it's just gonna end up with cliques of no-life retards dictating everything
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that level 30 sniper DMR is some fucking horseshit, that thing is a straight up fucking assault rifle with FAL damage 5 levels earlier.
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>>581769858
>ugly bullpup
The least it could be is the MK11 or the Scar17
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I was watching footage of the Myamar war and realized that wardogs doesn't have any trenches or mechanics tied to building trenches. It's kind of nuts that trenches 100 years later are still the most effective tools in maintaining positions.

If we can build trenches and fighting positions it mitigate with the fucking arty spam instead of relying on indestructible cover.
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>>581770193
Scar is probably the ugliest gun in existence thoughsoeverbeit
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>>581770272
No, that would be bullpups
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how the fuck do you use a sniper in this game? the entire map is covered in foliage. are you supposed to shoot at eachother in the towers?
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>meanwhile at blue HQ
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>>581770338
I see, bulls and pups on your mind. Sounds PRETTY gay.
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For the first wipe im just gonna play support and do nothing but build till I get the MAAWS and sell early T3 hammers and MAAWS to niggers for profit
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Is there any way to get no shadows while having a good gpu?
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>>581769602
Mortar doesn't need to cost any more, it just needs to not be so unreasonably effective against built entrenchments.
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>>581770601
put in shit gpu
turn them off
put in good gpu
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>>581770663
literally why are you making it so hard on yourself.
just fucking cap your FPS.
simple.
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>>581770251
Trenches are great but it's really hard to dig into asphalt and the maps are all urban
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>>581770468
I see niggers fucking you in your ass but I wasn't going to call you out on it.
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>>581770476
>no one buys them
lmao
the only shit I sell that isn't build supplies (and pretty much no one picks them up anymore sadly) is stims and FAKs. stims everyone profits even at a 50% markup, p great.
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Game's more fun when everyone was running around with T2 armors, AKs, SKS, bows, rpgs and M249 kodiaks
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>>581770462
As if that's a blue exclusive thing. I never understood the LOL BLUE meme. Every online game is filled with immense idiots and I guess it makes me an idiott too for wanting to play it.
In fact I think the meme already killed the game for many people.
>join server
>it hasnt startedd yet
>blue 12, red 14, green 14 so not enough players to begin the game like that
>check scoreboard
>everyone is just waiting for someone to join Blue so they can try to spamclick themselves into green.
>the game never begins and people leave the server
gg
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>>581770663
there's got to be a config file you can edit
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>>581770751
I mean.
We already got building and logistics.
This thing is designed to crack roads. And there is loads of grass and fields around the hotzone and inside the hotzone.
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sniping is so gay holy fuck, how does this happen EVERY TIME the instant i try and move
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>>581767263
There needs to be official ones because the low rank community servers only exists in NA, it doesn't exist in EU or OCX
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>>581770251
Wardogs is set in a location where everyone and their mother is sending private armies to get in, extract mcguffintanium and get out. There is no time for trenching.
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>>581771279
>mcguffintanium
it's just oil bro
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i hate retards that park the apc at the fob and wall it in, please just fucking kill yourself in minecraft creative you gay ass pussies
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>>581771316
Mcguffinoil
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>>581770737
Does capping your FPS really work? How do I do it im retarded
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>>581771142
You're doing it wrong
You can't stop moving
If you paly sniper ever you'd know; just constantly wiggle or go back and forth and the sniper won't headshot you, they'll either bodyshot (you'll live and know where they are), or more likely just not take the shot and spot you repeatedly to avoid giving themselves away.
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>>581771419
nvidia or AMD control panels (I think amd's is called ADRENALINE xxXXX 42069 or some other niggershit.)
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>>581771451
>just constantly wiggle
so this really is rust
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>>581771328
Also hiding the FOB itself in some lovecraftian labyrinth that is difficult to find and enter in the first place and impossible to escape once you jump in. Also the FOB is fucking lethal if you get stuck between a wall and the fob, kills you faster than razorwires
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>>581771279
No, they're mining gay minerals for gay solar panels for faggot kike Klaus Schwab
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>>581771316
it's oil specifically from dinosaur babies
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>>581770951
>As if that's a blue exclusive thing.
true. I play on all teams and won/lost on all but, blue team is most prone to get steamrolled. it is what its is
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>>581771547
Rust with teams is just foxhole but goddamn I wish foxhole was 1st person. Because it felt like home on my 1st day building with total strangers.
https://files.catbox.moe/9bvvq3.webm
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>>581759304
ignoring the 30/35 unlocks because they're all cracked
m4 gapes galil in every category, the only struggle is that it's level 20 assault
all the SMGs are good, the mp5 can solve 800 problems per minute
shotguns are aight actually, they've served me well. try buckshot with a choke (and sweep the legs if you can help it)
m249 is a beast if you have the bipod. without the bipod it's still okay but requires a lot, lot more finesse to make work
SKS is an early staple for a reason, SVD i think is a sidegrade until you get 10 rounders, then i think it's fair to call it a straight upgrade
and then for the bolt actions they're pretty much ranked by unlock order naturally
the glock with the switch is so much fun i don't care whether it's good or not
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haha i found it
go to %LOCALAPPDATA%\Wardogs\Saved\Config\WindowsClient\GameUserSettings.ini and adjust sg.ShadowQuality
>sg.ShadowQuality=4
no more shadows
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>31 people on blue team
>7 in the combat zone TOTAL
how the fuck does this even happen?
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Back down to $26k today because each kit costs me $9k now and I can't get a single fucking good game
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>>581772031
10 on logi, 5 in spawn, the rest in the combat zone awaiting a rez
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>>581772102
Drive some trucks bro. Easy money and bonus if you win.
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>>581772154
Drive trucks to FOBs you mean?
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>have 2 friends on enemy team
>have him revive one over and over as I shoot him 800 meters away
>I get 5 million at the end of the match and he gets a million
don't you retards have friends?
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>>581772251
What else is the truck for?
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artillery is fun, but is there actually any purpose to stabilizing? It moves and readjusts no matter what you do so you have to actually keep tabs on your range and positioning.
It's been insanely fun to nuke gates for my team.
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>>581772269
ENJOY BAN BLOODY BASTARD
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>>581772396
everyone over rank 100 is doing this. you are genuinely never going to unlock your class gear without it.
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>>581772269
you both get diminishing returns though. It takes 3 or 4 for you to start losing, but he gets halved on revives instantly, after 5 revives he stops getting money at all.
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>>581771986
Can you also turn depth on field and chromatic aberration off?
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>>581772295
driving to enemy fobs and jumping on and over walls
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>>581772487
you won't catch me boosting like some chink
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>>581772530
>mfw retards leave the foot out on their concrete walls and say "hurr you can't jump over it anyway" but it lets me truck angle upwards so I can climb over it
lmao
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hold on so are DMRs just fucking worthless?
My next real upgrade is SV98???
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>>581772031
I was once in a game where seriously twenty blues were just waiting for a revive when the drill tower had only me and two other dudes left alive.
And some of them had been dead for quite a while, as the enemy kept killing them.
What moves in the mind of such a person? What makes a man wait for a revive even though they can see the minimap and hear the screams that signal that it's never going to happen.
They revived only after me and another one told them to fucking respawn on the APC that was still in the base and they could still come help us
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>>581772673
Prettty much yeah.
The SKS is great if you need to get up to the nugget, but after that I wouldn't touch a DMR till the last one (cause it's got higher damage than most ARs while functionally being identical and using the same grips and optics). Snipers get a 3.5x damage multi to headshots, as well, which DMRs do not. They really REALLY want you to focus on getting good clean headshots with snipers.
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>friends wont play
>everyone here is solo and cant talk on the mic
>everyone in public squads is retarded
uninstalling this shit its impossible to play without 6 people in vc
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>>581772295
I just put a supply crate in a Kodiak and accidentally deployed it when I was a quarter of the way to the FOB, is there a way to pack it up and put it back?
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What region + team combo just builds FOBs all day? I want to make money in a chill way
I'm tired of chasing the circle

>erm just go red on us west!
They maybe build a FOB that gets lost in minutes to devolve into more circle chasing
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>>581773013
nope, you're fucked, can't drag, can't move. byebye money
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>>581773013
smol family company please understand mate
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I can't even drop these supplies off anywhere now, the fob has been destroyed
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>>581773084
>>581773013
And fuck the other drivers too kek
imagine having to dodge the same fucking box 20 times
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>>581773554
I mean they'll run over it, they're very easy to pop unless they're the armored ones.
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>>581773676
Ah cool, I've only ever slowly bumped against them with the buggy or kodiak and they felt like hitting bedrock
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Got snipped shortly after crossing into the combat zone not knowing where to drop anything off, I'm down 15k now awesome. Driving is fun!
>>581773554
It was in a forest
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I got fomo and fear if I don't play for a couple of days I'm just gonna get shit on by level 4 armors
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>>581773747
Nah they've got surprisingly low health. The armored ones for pilots have slightly more but not enough to care about.
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Game sucks. Progression is terrible unless you NEET for 8+ hours a day playing this game and only this game. Changs already magic-bulleting entire servers, or cheating in less ragehacky methods. Was fun for the 1 week it lasted.
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>>581773805
rightfully so, I think this is about the event horizon for the game and match balance. It's gonna teeter over into complete shit by next weekend. This is the last time you'll be able to find regular matches on official servers.
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>>581691727
Don't forget a havoc costs like 1.5x a decent kit, at most, and comes with rockets and a fucking autocannon with IR camera.
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>>581772836
They also want you to get fucked raw in the ass because the millisecond your lobby is full of T3 helmets, you can't get clean headshot kills with a mosin unless you... powerleveled to AP ammo... for a low level gun.
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Since most of the retards believed the blue = bad meme and leave for green and red, blue now has a bunch of actual good players that don't care for team color and it's winning more often in my experience
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>>581774182
I mean they want you to continue progressing. The assumption the devs have that normal people will play and there will be a balanced spread of players is the issue. We have 20 years of knowledge to show that no, normal people will in fact just quit.
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>>581772836
7.63x39mm AP is (((only))) a level 63 wardogs unlock which makes the sks a beast
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>>581772692
>What makes a man wait for a revive
Their kit cost 12k and they died as soon as they spawned so the instant CBA is "this is a frustrating 100% loss death UNLESS someone revives me". Timer is long enough (and you can see potential saviors on the minimap) that you just tab out and jerk off on discord for the length of the timer. Getting back to the zone is a pain in the ass unless you have midround heli pilots, want to vehicle yourself, or the APC is up and the radar is repaired.
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>>581774221
it's not a meme though, they're objectively at a disadvantage.
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>>581774249
Here's hoping the devs fix this shit for their month one patch, but I know they won't. People with jobs will look at their playtime and go "I can't dedicate 80 hours to a game that wipes just to get shit on like that every time" and leave, 100%.
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>>581774221
2 of the 3 maps place Blue inbetween green and Red, placing them at the bottom of a "T" shape map layout for their HQs, that and the fact they have the worst camo, makes then stand out in forested and urban environments. They get fucked hard.
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>>581774493
realistically I think it gets the same stuff as tarkov, where it sees big player returns around wipes, then a week later it dies off. Only there's no solution akin to PVE to fix it here.
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>>581667549
All the pilot grind xp fags watched the same YouTube video that says “GO BLUE BECAUSE THEY KEEP DYING AND YOU GET XP FERRYING THEM TO THE BATTLEFIELD.”
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>>581774557
50v50 would probably do a lot of good, also gamemodes other than the only one they have, which they stole from the ArmA3 mod. A lot of the current frustrations come from one of the three teams (usually blue but not always) getting the short straw and being the shitter team. If you're on the shitter team your options are play partisan, snipe, buildfag for the entire round, solo mortar fob, or just leave and find a server that's a bit more balanced.
Game basically plays like there's 2 teams and sometimes a third color shows up and will affect both of the real teams in a minor way. Some fun comes out of this but it's currently more frustrating than anything else, imo.
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>>581774221
Clans join blue team because you can always get into blue, anon.
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>>581774858
I think it's even worse than that because it's more like there's two teams but the third only ever attacks one of them. So instead of having a 3 way free for all you have two teams fighting 1v1s and a fucked team fighting a 1v2.
The idea is that the winning team gets attacked by both other teams, but the map geometry prevents that, so instead you just get runaway games most of the time where say Green gets 100 points while the other two combined are <30 because Green is fighting Blue only, and Red is also just buttfucking Blue, but Green and Red never really fight.
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>>581775079
That tracks. Only map I see people team up against green on is stadium map since green will regularly place a FOB on a tower that gets ass-raped constantly by being next to apartment buildings.
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>>581772635
you are supposed to leave the foot facing outwards except you're supposed to do this as well



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