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First for the patrician's waifu
October 1st
<< Yo, buddies! >>With AC8 right around the corner 7's had a little bit of life breathed back into its dead multiplayer. I'll be hosting a final weekend of furballs on the 26th, 27th, and 28th at the usual starts of 1930 CET/1330 EST up until 8's early launch. Join the lobbies, finish out your achievements, and have fun! Let's sendoff 7 to celebrate its success and the launch of 8!
Blended wings? Lame. No tailfin? Lame.DSI? Ugly.Stealth? Gay.Glass cockpit? Soulless.
>>581761483Caramel anime women are unbeatable
Whats up with Pastebin right now?
I hope my rig can run AC8. I meet the minimum requirements besides windows 11... if I didnt get laid off for a year, I would have upgraded already!
As we approach why don't we look back for a moment and post some of your favorite screen shots you've taken from any of the games to date. Be it something cool, funny, or just something you like how it just worked out in the shotHere we see Lanza really did have a missile on his tail as the Su-35 fired just moments before the cut scene kicked in with the stealth missile which BTW I hope is in the game.
OOOOOOOOOH-OOOOOOOOOH-OOOOOOOOH-OOOOOOOOOOH-OH-OH-OH..... OOOH-OH-OH-OHOOOOOOOOOH-OOOOOOOOOH-OOOOOOOOH-OOOOOOOOOOH-OH-OH-OH..... OOOH-OH-OH-OH
>>581767329
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>>581770679Lost count of how many times i heard it already
>>581767329I have this webm.
I want to believe
So whats the deal with Enso Order's AI.
>>581770789same. unironically could be a hundred times since it got released
>>581770882i trust this trans queen
>>581770882this same dude also implied that 8's ending does address the electrosphere-shaped elephant in the room
It's not fair that literally whos get to play the game before me...
>>581772429That’s not what he’s talking about
>>581772926what is this meant to imply then (quote tweet is someone bitching about AC3 existing)
>>581770882Zero's ending missions run is already one of the best in gaming, so yes obviously if AC8's surpasses it it would necessarily also be one of the best in any video game duh
>>581773147I can get more specific but that’d be spoilers; the stuff he’s talking about with the ending isn’t the same as the connection to 3. It relates to Kono’s statement about Rex doing something the protagonist has never done before in an AC game, I’ll say that much.
>>581774610I can't believe rex is going to bend over his own spine and give himself a blowjob
>>581774610Given the whole Wings of Theve legend being too large for one person, it would only make sense that he dies in the last battle of the war
>>581775238https://youtu.be/DwCMe4KJCkQ?si=c4CyQqM-jQXsiAHb
Playing PW again when did these clouds get updated it's a little fucked on the darker ones
>>581770902>ENSO
7 days, 18 hours.
>>581770902>>581777173>MOKSHA(rendered as MOKSYA probably because of nihon-shiki romanization)
>>581777294forgot pic
>>581777173>an open circle symbolizes development and perfection of all thingsHmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
>>581777173>>581777446>>581770902My assumption is they're basically NERV/SEELE from evangelion but swap the judeo-christian esotericism for buddhist esotericism
>>581774610yeah it's actually wild that not only is the protag gonna speak, but he flat out calls every Belkan a subverting rat and how every last one of them should be gassed
>>581776537A while back, they are mostly better but come at a large and disproportionate performance cost. Supposedly they are working on improvements again. Press X to doubt.
Good evening.Remember:> Tasha has a civilian aerobat background sets her up to be killed for the "Sorry kids, this ain't Macross" moment. Think of it as a reverse Roy Focker.> Young impressionable pilot just like PJ> She is flying the same position in the squadron as Chopper did at #3> Latest trailer gave her considerable focus. Characters who are prominent in advertising are likely to get killed off> Trailer featured her looking straight at the camera, almost as if she is preparing a suicide ramming attack. The trailer cuts right to the missing man formation scene.> Kate is shown flying in the missing man formation scene given the lighting, hinting that she will survive and take Tasha's place ala Swordsman taking over Chopper's spot> Tasha says "It ain't over yet!" in a voice and tone that is all but screaming pre-sacrifice dialogue> Funeral scene with the FCU flag draped coffin. It can't be Cope's because everyone knows he dies in the prologue. And an FCU carrier wouldn't have a Yuke flag on ready.> Can't kill Professor because Project Aces already killed the black guy in 7> Can't kill Noise because death would be too obvious and just retreading Chopper's what with the rock and roll motif, lacking emotional impact.> Killing Tasha would be genuinely shocking and instill a massive emotional gut punch reminding the player of what the stakes are.I predict Tasha dies two-thirds into the campaign and Kate takes her place.
>>581778928Take your damn meds, I've lost count of the number of times I've seen this wall of text get reposted
>>581779478personally i like the baitposting, it makes it harder to tell what's a real spoiler or not
Rex (You) are the Sotoan spy
>>581779478I don't see a rebuttal.
>>581778609Type of skin you get for buying a case of Mountain Dew
>>581780630>"We are brothers, Rex. We are the same."
>>581770902>Looks like strands of an eye's iris>It turns to look at you at the end of the gameGet ready for spooky
>>581781982>MY NAME. IS JAN. COPE.
>>581776537They got updated but rape perfoemance now
I still think that the protag will die at this point >>581770882 in the story, and gets replaced by someone else in the squadron to take on the mantle stemming from your choices in gameOR>>581780630 and you have to make a branching choice to continue your mission, or turn on Sotoa
>>581782465>the coffin was yours all along
>>581782465Bamco insider here. You are right about everything
>>581783340You die and your ghost has to choose whether to defect
you die and thats when you create your multiplayer avatar and thats who you finish the campaign with
>>581760824what the fuck? when I hover over the image the plane disappears...
>>581789139What plane?
>>581789430
I've been looking into the anemone flowers a little and there is some interesting stuff there. Anemone means "wind flower" or more poetically "daughter of the wind" in greek. The flowers are most likely A. Coronaria, meaning crown/crowned. There is a greek myth about their origin in which aphrodite's tears mix with her mortally wounded lover's blood, which creates the anemones. This is also the origin of the anemone's meaning in japanese flower language; a tragic love. So there being two of them in the sotoan village where wheelchair woman arrives and cope having a picture of them and a "shocking" past, it pretty strongly implies that hot wheels and cope had a thing going on between them. Which makes me think wheelchair woman might not realise cope is dead at first. This is pure speculation but it also makes me think cope was involved with coffin/sublimination research with her, maybe the leak is cope/the player himself
>>581789674>cope is telepathically communicating to hotwheels through rex
>final mission ends>cutscene to Simon>2035>hmmmm, interesting... so that's what would've happened if (a, b, c,) instead of (x, y, z,)>let's run it back a little bit
>>581782040hey they already did that shit in the last mission impossible movie
it's starting to feel real (also in the top 10 sellers on Steam right now, neat)
>>581789674God this entry is Gundam enough as it is
>>581760824Should I preorder 8 just to get Zero?
>>581796070I don't see any harm in preordering, the game is guaranteed to be kickass.
>>581796316Where did you niggas preorder?I'm looking at fanatical cause it's the cheapest there
>skies unknown>3 teased OST>faceless soldier, daredevil and archange>wings of theve>literally only everflowis it literally over for keiki?
>>581796582I went through the Bamco store because I was after the artbook edition. You can just go through Steam or whatever.
>>581797485They didn't release those songs separately before the game either.
>>581797485they havent released the full goddamn soundtrack yet calm your tits
>>581797485we're killing you with hammers
that japanese puss must be so good that it isnt enough for the cucker to die, he has to be deleted in the internet too. the fuck is wrong with simon
>>581791671Online will be canonical because it's just Simon running simulation data over and over>>581799127What no bitches does to an AI scientist
>>581799127Belkans and revenge, man.
Huh I know Ace Combat has done proper missile hitboxes forever and you can hit other enemies while targeting something else even in AC1, but I don't think I've ever seen an enemy missile hit another enemy before.
So how did the FCU manage to complete Stonehenge during the whole Coup d'etat in 1996
>>581804245Because it was a united "we don't want to die to the Ulysses asteroid" effort. It was always meant to be an anti-asteroid weapon. Erusea just had the smart idea of turning it on air targets.
>>581777173>No-mind>No-one>NEMOoh shit nigga
「 Without beginning or end, the ring stretches into the infinite 」
What's the best mission on 04 for making a lot of money? I want to buy all the aircraft skins
>>581804907Invincible Fleet. Megalith if you're good at killing the Yellows quick.
>>581804907You can't get money by doing Free Missions.
>>581777173Ouroboros
Every aircraft needing guns is stupid, just give me the F-117 and the B-2 ffs
>>581806410Yes you can
>>581813819Strategic bombers don't work with Ace Combat gameplay.>but aciThey didn't work there either.
>>581815034Consider that the blackjack is the coolest plane.
>>581813271Finally, someone who realizes Tasha is going to end up getting Choppered.
>>581813819I'd be happy flying F-117s and B-2s if they were fightersThey're just cool
Will 8 have a furball mission to surpass this one?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmR8fOyz8Oc
>>581816821Best I can offer you is an Aardvark.Actually I can't offer you that the devs hate the Aardvark for some reason. They hate it so much they even called one of their planes the Raven because they're trying to pretend the real Raven doesn't exist.
>>581817546Mayhem was surpassed the moment AC6 happened.
>Soaring ever higher, as we carved spirals into the heavensare they going to give Cope all the quotable lines in this game
>>581818839Cope is how they get around having a voiced protagonist without actually having a voiced protagonist.
The protagonist actually died but they revived him by putting Jan's brain inside the protagonist's skull via AI and other proto-sublimation tech wizardry
>>581818839It was cope?I thought it was Rex's ghost talking to us from inside our head.
>>581819362genuinely though, he whole disembodied voice thing is so retarded, what good explanation is even possible?
>>581818127It's been 20 years, surely AC8 can have AC6 scale of operations?
>>581819774newtype ghost
>>581813271RIP Blade 3 as well>>581816828I still think they're making it too obvious and it's a takeout (plus FCU flag on the coffin etc)
>>581819512
>>581812563...will be released into the atmosphere
>>581817546Yes
>>581813819B-2 is way too big to mesh with normal AC gameplayBut you know which other bomber is also triangular, stealthy, and small enough to be carrier-based?That's right, it's his turn
Say do you remember?
>>581813271Reminder of the death flags: >> Tasha has a civilian aerobat background sets her up to be killed for the "Sorry kids, this ain't Macross" moment. Think of it as a reverse Roy Focker.>> Young impressionable pilot just like PJ>> She is flying the same position in the squadron as Chopper did at #3>> Latest trailer gave her considerable focus. Characters who are prominent in advertising are likely to get killed off>> Trailer featured her looking straight at the camera, almost as if she is preparing a suicide ramming attack. The trailer cuts right to the missing man formation scene.>> Kate is shown flying in the missing man formation scene given the lighting, hinting that she will survive and take Tasha's place ala Swordsman taking over Chopper's spot>> Tasha says "It ain't over yet!" in a voice and tone that is all but screaming pre-sacrifice dialogue>> Funeral scene with the FCU flag draped coffin. It can't be Cope's because everyone knows he dies in the prologue. And an FCU carrier wouldn't have a Yuke flag on ready.>> Can't kill Professor because Project Aces already killed the black guy in 7>> Can't kill Noise because death would be too obvious and just retreading Chopper's what with the rock and roll motif, lacking emotional impact.>> Killing Tasha would be genuinely shocking and instill a massive emotional gut punch reminding the player of what the stakes are.
I hope we get spoilers soon so we can let this death flag discussion rest.
>>581827841No need
>>581819774Because with Johnny Silverhan-uh I mean Jan Cope in your head, you can take revenge against the Arasak-erm I mean Enso Order corporation.
Consider yourself lucky PA didn't blow 3/4 of the budget to have Tom Cruise voice Cope
>>581827841Just know that I'll be collecting receipts when it's confirmed that Tasha dies two-thirds into the campaign and Kate takes her place.
>>581830328Not in the Ace Combat general
Which one of you freaks painted Raptor-chan's belly white?
>episode 2>no fucking planesis bandai retarded?
>>581819774head-trauma induced schizophrenia
>>581832557The doctor was handsome though
>>581832557Have you ever seen an Ace Combat story before?
>>581815034>They didn't work there either.Not true. The B1 and B2 were extremely effective on any mission with a significant number of ground targets. They were also game winners for the fleet pvp.
This is the longest week of my life.
>>581813271AAAAAH
>>581832557It had people on the ground talking mostly about their own problems and a little bit about someone in a plane that's like half of ace combat cinemas.I'll be really stoked if we see a plane/maybe Rex's squadron in episode 3 but we probably won't. I expect it will focus entirely on the news station in (presumably) Theve when they get attacked. Maybe we'll see some of the propaganda about Rex from the civilian side that would be cool. But these seem to be mini-stories focused on setting up and paying off their own little character arcs in 5-10 minutes.
How do you guys feel about the new plane roster? We seem to be getting some cool new planes but idk, I would like to see more experimetal aircraft and lower tier superplanes. I guess that they will come in the shitty battlepass...
>>581841103The roster itself is fine. Too many hornets, too few flankers(only the sea flanker and the super flanker), but overall it's fine.The thing that I found really interesting about the details we've seen so far was the wildly different parts allocations. Like the Super Tomcat only being able to equip 2 body parts but having 7 slots for arms. That would really lean into its identity as a missile boat compared to something more balanced within the same "tier"(like the F-16 and the Mig-29).The thing I really don't like is that they're still sprinkling crucial upgrade parts all over the aircraft tree so some SPWs will just feel like shit until you go back and unlock an entirely different branch of the tree(like if you go for Euro or Soviet branches you'll miss out on parts that exist in the US branch).
>>581842341>Too many hornets, too few flankersYou were spoiled in 7 and this is naval based AC.
>>5818431507 had 5 flankers which was a bit much, true, but 2 is too few. They should've at least included the Su-37.
>>581843270The Su-34,33 and 35 are in the game. 37 will likely come later.
>>581843768The Su-34 is not a flanker though.
>>581843768where's su 35
All I need is the Su-27, thanks.
>>581843965In the story trailer, dumbass.
>>581844150
>>581820456Highly likely. We know that maps are HUEG with LONG mission timers, and all the missions we've seen so far have had a good amount of targets. Notably the land battleship mission cuts off before the end, so there's one maybe two mission updates left for that.
>>581843814It is a derivative of the Flanker therefore it is.
>>581844743How could you miss it?>>581844830Literally fake news. I like the Fullback but it is not a Flanker.
>>5818439651:42https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPqLcA9LQMo
A storm's a'coming, buddies...
>>581844830If it was a Flanker, NATO would call it a Flanker, because their reporting system is where the name Flanker came from. But they don't call it a Flanker, they call it a Fullback, therefore it is not a Flanker.
>>581846638tbqh NATO designations are fucking retarded, according to them Su-24 and Su-25 are also fighters.
>>581846638Does that make the Su-37 not a flanker since protoshit doesn't have a NATO reporting name?
>>581846749According to the US the F-117 is also a fighter.
Ace ComFUCKASSSHITWHEREISITMAILMYFUCKINGGAMEALREADYBAMCO-INEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDITbat
>>581846813Flanker-F.
>>581847713Oh wow, they actually gave it a reporting name. Does the Su-75 also have one despite not existing?
>>581847896It does not, though the Su-47 (Firkin) and MiG 1.44 (Flatpack) do. I suppose managing to actually get to the hardware stage is a reasonable prerequisite. As such, PAK DA will never have one either.
>>581846981The Su-34 had a murky and protracted beginning.[15] In the mid-1980s, Sukhoi began developing a new tactical multirole combat aircraft to replace the swing-wing Su-24, which would incorporate a host of conflicting requirements. The bureau thus selected the Su-27, which excelled in maneuverability and range, and could carry a large payload, as the basis for the new fighter-bomber.[16] More specifically, the aircraft was developed from T10KM-2, the naval trainer derivative of the Sukhoi Su-27K. The development, known internally as T-10V, was shelved at the end of the 1980s sharing the fate of the aircraft carrier Ulyanovsk; this was the result of the political upheaval in the Soviet Union and its subsequent disintegration.[15][16]
>>581844776The full ending of land battleship mission got released by one guy who didn't realize he was supposed to cut it off. without spoiling it, there's only one mission update and it's pretty short
>>581843965It's in the game but they nerfed it to death. Swapped LASMs for LAGMs and LAAMs for HVAAs.
>>581845012What color afterburner will the ocdonutsteel super plane have this time
>>581813271>killing the femaleBTW the tasha hater is indian. he's the same that went on a tardrage about PW btw
But will I make a splash if I fall into water compared to crashing on land?
They brought back the sonic boom cloud thing.
>>581851396HVAA is better than LAAM
>>581853202No it's not. They're kinda equal in MP(but LAAM has more cheese potential with the super homing bug) but LAAM is clearly superior in SP. LAAM has more ammo, way more range, the same homing, and the same speed. The only thing HVAA has is reload speed which doesn't really outweigh all the benefits of the LAAM.
>>581853527You're talking about things which may only apply to ace combat 7 here. I'm assuming they have rebalanced all the SP weapons significantly in 8.
its quite simple, either you're a flanker or you're a shit plane
*washes shit off plane*What now BOY
>>581854164>I'm assuming they have rebalanced all the SP weapons significantly in 8.I really hope so, given SP and MP are completely separate games...
>>581852630Acting like this franchise hasn't killed off female characters before.
>>581855423One that actually mattered?
>>581855423retard its modern bamco, they need the fucking DEI money from blackrock/vanguard, no way in hell are they killing a female lead
>>581855625apologize
if you love something you have to be able to let it gowhich is why we will be punting tasha off the carrier
>>581855726That money isn't real, unless you can provide me with receipts of them getting substantive money for as you say "DEI"
>>581856017>money not realMoney isnt real anyway
>>581855783TECHNICALLY THEY NEVER DIED
>>581855783They only die if you play the wrong routes
>>581854164Because let's be honest, these are AC7 weapons>but ACAHL and Infinitynobody fucking cares about those games.Also, looking at the AC8 preview gameplay LAAM seems to have kept its capacity advantage over HVAA, or at least has equal capacity. They would have to massively buff HVAA's tracking or massively nerf the LAAM to make them equal.You stated that the HVAA is better which even if we disregard AC7 balance I just don't see being true. The LAAM is just has a better gimmick, being able to fire and forget at targets from very far away is extremely useful. It's like a SAAM on steroids that removes the SAAM's main weakness.
>>5818572272/3 will die no matter which route you pick. On some routes all 3 will die.
>>581855726Kate will fill Tasha's place ala Snow and Chopper. They've already built her up as a fifth wingman anyway.
Do you actually want Professor to live or are you just really invested in Tasha dyingDoes anyone care about Professor at all
>>581859372We're over a decade deep into"I want internet points, and to be able to say 'I told you so/I called it', for predicting some plot point correctly in an unreleased work"having an outsized presence in online discussion.I think that's it. People want to feel smart.It's gone and continues to go hand-in-hand with all this lorefaggotry.
>>581859372I do not care about Tasha nor the Professor
Well someone is getting killed for drama, duh
If they give players a choice, Tasha will surviveProfessor gets the Kaidan Alenko treatment/crater
I never figured out what "Increase MG fire concentration" part did in 7
>>581861183It increases the precision, but not the accuracy, of MG fire.
>>581861435Aren't precision and accuracy the same?
>>581861435so reduced spread
>>581861435
>>581861746No, precision is how close your shots are landing to each other, accuracy is how close your shots are landing to the target. So this part won't help you if you can't aim for shit.>>581862139Yeah, basically. Or reduced fire concentration, which is what the description says.
>>581801431But Simon's Usean!
>>581625770>>581631321>>581633294Thanks, I think I will start with AC3 or 4 and 5....I just have to get an emulator now
>>581866010Are you sure about that?
>>581867959https://pcsx2.net/downloads/You are 15 minutes away from having this runningJust do it no excuses!!!
>>581831283A hag trying to fit in with the youth...
>>581774610that sounds like it's going to be awful. they're going to go full ass horizon of duty with this shit and have him talk, aren't they.
>>581860351I just want the spam to stop. It's not like the spammer's the first one to bet on Tasha dying, >>577976364 was posted like a month ago>Tasha herself dying would be pure storytelling cocaine as it's maximum suffering for literally everyone, bonus points if it's right as all her hair dye's faded away and at the darkest point of the story.
>>581869694It’s not talking, AC protags have done that before
>got an x56 logitech hotas from my brother because he upgraded to fancier shit for star citizenhow much of a bitch is this thing for ace combat
this wait is actually killing me
>>581770789>>581770989And that shit going to hit just as hard when it plays during gameplay. I really hope it goes through phases like Daredevil during lighthouse in AC7
I want to know spoilers, are there any yet?
>>581873904There's a sex scene where you have sex with your aircraft
>>581873904Cope dies
>>581873353If Control Resonant wasn't coming out this week then I'd already have frozen myself like Cartman when he was waiting for the Wii.
>>581874020Can I choose to bottom?>>581874027>cope is kill>no
>>581874305Where can I see this?
>>581874561https://acecombat.wiki.gg/
>>581874598Thanks.
Your favourite lines, bros?
>>581874909<< I don't care if it's a lie, just tell them Mobius 1 is here! >>
>>581873904Belkans are generating AI porn of Tasha
>>581874909
>>581875307>ywn see high resolution belkan pornography featuring qveen LITTLE BEE sensually yet brutally dominating Tashajdimsa
>>581872596Very. You should also pray yours isn't possessed and shits ghost inputs all over the place. I know mine did.
I think if they kill tasha there'll be literally nothing except every sotoan man woman and child burning to death covered in napalm that could possibly stop the campaign from ending on an absolutely disastrous depressing note
>>581874909<< The world won't change for the better unless we trust people. Trust is vital in a peaceful world. But that will never happen >> still hits as hard as it did the first time
tashit < kate
>>581878717Based.
>>581878717this post fact checked true by real kazutoki kono pqtriots shes got crazy DSLs brah
>>581874909"Soaring ever higher, as we carve spirals into the heavens"That or"CRISP WHITE SHEETS"
>>581874909<< Those who survive a long time on the battlefield start to think they're invincible. I bet you do too, Buddy. >>
>>581770789at least 15 for myself
i need 100 vs 100 air battles where at least half of the enemies just focuses on you because youre a menace
The problem with Ace combat releases is that we stop getting sick trailers.
>>581874909<<Above you flies the Wings of Theve. No harm will come to you.>>Already a top ten line for me. But my GOAT will always be.<<I don't know. History determines the winner. But there's one thing I can say for certain: heroes really do exist. We've just seen one, and now he's coming home.>>I swear 4 lives rent free in my head like no other game.
>>581871982then what the fuck is it
>>581814281No you can't that feature was removed in 4>>581815034>Strategic bombers don't work with Ace CombatIt is 2026 nothing a pair of loyal wingmen can't fix for missile stand in. While 5 or 6 Malebolge are carried internally once active they circle your B-2 like options and act as guns.
>>581886437You can figure it out on your own; someone else already has
>>581852013Neon RGBTurns out wheelchair lady use to be a rave girl back in the 90's
I know you have them we all have some crazy or maybe they won't be crazy theories about things in 8>Enso order is just a rebranded Grey Men who now want the entire world to burn not just Osea>The FCU will find a landship stuck in the mud and the crew abandoned it (This may be the start of the DLC campaign) >When you put your wingmen into a superplane they behave the same as Shamrock and go wild with SPW spam>We will have a space mission>A-4 will return as a free battle pass planeWhat are yours?
>>581887297are you fuckin' serious, you can't just say it?
>>581888925I betcha this guy >>581775238 has it.
>>581775238>>581889685>people endlessly debating which wingman is in the coffin>it was rex all alongIf true that might be the ballsiest move PA has ever pulled story-wise
>>581889875Maybe but after all the months of anons joking about Rex crashed we're gonna need a new Rex it just kind of feels expected now.
>>581885020We're probably getting a launch trailer soonish.
>>581888925What part of spoilers do you not understand
>>581874909<<Shit, my cola.>>
>>581890884<<It's a big m a z e.>>
>>581890881you can spoiler text shit on 4chan retard.
>>581885792<<Hope’s all we can offer. Right, Joker 1?>>
Anybody still on the ACE COMBAT general 6 days from early access doesnt actually care deeply about spoilers bee tee w
>>581892636You would be wrong, right now the thread is still peaceful and the buddies that are still here aren't going to spoil as they don't want to know much themselves. Once we hit Sept 29 then all bets are off however and it might be best to either avoid the thread or tread very lightly in what you read and see in here.
At the risk of spoonfeeding the truly retarded, remember that it's Ctrl+S for spoiler tagsIf you use || Discord spoiler tags || you will be bullied and strapped to V2
>>581888892Heres mine:>Pike comes back in the last mission driving the salvaged land battleship from mission 9.>"The targeting systems still aren't functional. We'll need you to do terminal guidance for the railguns.">Shadow22/Ares will at some point demand an honor duel with Rex. LET NONE INTERFERE!
AC6 is pretty cool. Plane balancing was cozy enough where I was buying planes more to kit out Shamrock than for myself, since the F-16's UGBs and XMA4s were rad enough that even after I bought the F-2 and F-15 I didn't feel underequipped doing the last two missions in the starter plane for a lark. I'm glad that 8 looks like it's removing UGBL because that just meant vanilla UGBs got a tiny blast radius and UGBLs got a small ammo count.
>>581893857Online lobbies are going to be so funny when everyone's trying to fly down the Chandelier barrel all at once
>>581893972>Alpha 1, down>Bravo 3, down>Alpha 4, down>Alpha 2, down. Unbelievable.
>>581886437My bet: dying
>>581874909<< Some welcome. >><< Faster and higher… Will you be the one to go there? >>
I'll try and stay away from story spoilers. But I need to know the final list of aircraft in the game. I must now.
>>581900393Why?
>>581770882Hi that's me!!This sequence that I'm referring to is in fact the games' ending. After annihilating the Sotoan fleet and bringing down the Tonitrus Spears vis a vis attacking the control ship, you attack Megafloat Fatsia (which is basically a giant fortress Yurt) and effectively knock Sotoa out of the war. The Lux Lunae effectively ignore this and deploy their entire remnant air force in a desperate gambit to bring down the Wings of Theve. The game crescendos with an Ace Combat 6 esque annihilation mission where you dogfight against a thousand enemy planes encroaching from all angles. What hasn't really been covered by previews is the role music plays in the game overall — the FCU has a military culture that is fundamentally interwoven with the performing arts in the same way that Sotoa's military culture is interwoven with the physical sciences. Put simply, the climax begins with a thirty minute dogfight against a thousand planes while your band plays their music over the radio. This is why they were making such a big deal about that dynamic audio engine — leitmotifs from different game BGM (including previous games) are seamlessly interwoven with Sotoan tribal chanting and then accentuated further by a rock arrangement that's equal parts The Pixies & The Tragically Hip. Furthermore, while this aerial battle ostensibly takes place in Sotoa, it doesn't quite feel *real*. It seems like wherever this is occuring is halfway between this life and the next, in the space where Jane is also lingering. I am still unsure of what to make of this all and it's one of the most interesting parts of the whole game.You can choose to believe me or not. Regardless, here's a photo of me performing Electrosphere inspired techno at a nightclub while my friends destroy Chandelier.
>>581903225finally we get the ace combat/macross crossoveractually we already got one of those in ah now that i think about it but whatever
>>581903225> It seems like wherever this is occuring is halfway between this life and the next, in the space where Jane is also lingering. I am still unsure of what to make of this all and it's one of the most interesting parts of the whole game.ENTERING ELECTROSPHERE
>>581903225might be fake af but still sounds incredibly ludokino, we heil project aces
>>581903225You can't mention much before the embargo lifts on Thursday, right? This all sounds very awesome, but I think we all have a lot of questions for you and I wouldn't want you getting in trouble
>>581903225If you only take the Tonitrus Spear out that late in the game then what’s the deal with the lighthouse and the space shuttle missions, are those for some other unrelated purposeAnd if the final fight is against Sotoa then what’s the Enso AI doing
>>581903225The real guy or not, how do dudes find out there's random anons talking about them/their posts on 4chan? It's always been weird to me since the site's no longer as (in)famous as it once was and for screencaps specifically the person's username isn't even written so it's not gonna get scraped by search engine bots and show up on Google or DuckDuckGo or whatever. Genuinely curious because this stuff just happens randomly.
>>581903829It’s not the electrosphere, it’s the place between the world of the living and the afterlife
>>581904110 the english speaking ace combat fandom is primarily twitter/discord based so people from here crosspost constantly
>>581904110A lot of elder trannies are 4chan expats, plus this general is pretty much the only place to talk about the second most anticipated game of the end of 2026. They probably just stumbled on it or had a friend point it out.
I cannot wait until for the dumbass takes about 7 to stop once 8 comes out. The amount of>I have a new revelation Ace Combat 7's story was a bit messyPosts/vids are aggravating.The horse has been beaten to a pulp at this point.
>>581903829Ditching the name because it's obnoxious lol. It's not quite so overt as that. This also sounds ridiculous but I walked away wondering if Abyssal Dission was actually "sublimated" (as in, that being a process that actually works), or if the Electrosphere itself is something grander. Wings of Theve has strong Shinto / Buddhist overtones already. Jane's death is a part of his life, it's a step forward into something — the Electrosphere itself might "plug in" to that same place.
Apologize.
>>581904110I still lurk /m/ despite being almost 30 and just wanted to see what people are saying here lol. I used to post in /ACG/ back when Infinity was live, if you can believe it.I've been on this site in some form or another since 2013. It is always kind of odious (like anywhere else) but lack of a direct attention economy means that everyone is a lot more civil and real dialogue happens more often than not. I use Twitter to follow musicians, talk to Japanese hobbyists, and sometimes shill my band.
>>581905016Even if the story beats are awesome the writing will still be cringe as fuck. Hell you could make 5 and 7 sound this hype too if you wanted
>>581906069I shoulda kept the name tag or made a trip lol. No, the writing is phenomenal, stellar performances across the board, ESPECIALLY Jane -- Mark Bodies performance is infinitely compelling. Again, the Buddhist / Shinto overtones create a real depth here that is genuinely without equal across the series. It is certainly heads and shoulders above other games released this year. Obviously, an Ace Combat game is going to hit harder for a series fan, but I have no compunctions about saying that I cried twice. I'm gonna stand by the statement that Wings of Theve earned those tears.
>>581906863Okay then, who dies aside from Rex Or is this a real Lamb of God situation and he dies so that everyone else survives and is redeemed or whatever
>>581905408I swear if it wasn't for /m/ and /aceg/ I would have abandoned this shithole when the hack happened last year. Unfortunately these two places didn't make the jump to the other chan while the gachashit general I haunt did. I haven't even watched much mecha anime the past couple years but /m/ still feels like home.
>>581906863I also want to add to this by stating the obvious - the dialogue in Ace Combat 7 is embarrassing because that game was ravaged during development. The performances are mostly fine (barring Rosa & Scrap Queen) but you play that game for even an hour and it is undeniable that the in-mission dialogue was just smashed together from a massive audio library of dialogue in the game's final hours, just a mad dash to make something sort of sensible out of the wreckage of the game's original GDD. That is not what happened here. The entire game has a level of polish and scale on the level of Ace Combat 7's SP missions, right down to the aircraft model callouts. >>581907229Character deaths are something I'm gonna sit on. But FWIW, the moments that really moved me were not deaths, they were reflections by Jane.
>>581907662Guessing that's a good sign for Tasha's odds of survival then.
>>581907662Could you explain why did the game felt like a love letter to 04?
>>581907662Not the final hours, the missions were reworked over ~2 years. The idea that it was all reworked at the last minute is a misconception coming from a poorly phrased Kono quote, in practice they scrapped all the missions in 2017 and rebuilt them from the ground up (the cutscene story was maintained). So it’s less of a mad dash and more the accumulation of layers of sediment on top of each other.Is Rosa’s voice acting better in 8 or is it still “yes”ville
What's the last day to pre-order and get 0?
>>581903924i do. fuck this asshole. why the fuck did they hand out review copies to any literal retard?
>>581908515They want maximum publicity
>>581908595shameful as fuck.
>>581907662your dumb fuck ass needs to get blasted to oblivion. you are going to RUIN this game for so many people. fuck off asshole.
PLEASE FUCKING SPOILER MARK IT AT LEAST YOU GOD DAMN DOUBLE NIGGER.At least thank you for reminding me it's time to mute the keyword on Twitter as well.
>>581908787Why are you on 4chan if you don’t want spoilers
>>581908787I do not see how any of the above will "ruin" the game for anybody. It's all high level analysis of stuff mostly seen in the trailers.
>>581909223>>581909408The point is this information is going to spread from here. This person has already spent a ton of time halfway almost vague posting with just enough hints to fly under the radar on X and now they're here on another website confirming they are the same person and just outright giving away the ending to the game DAYS before it is released. This is going to end up in all sorts of places from here and tons of people trying to avoid spoilers will have it spoiled to them. It's unacceptable.
>>581909637Also, its NOT EVEN Thursday yet. no matter how you slice it, this retard has definitely broken their legal contractual obligations.
There's a button you can click at the top right of your browser that can solve your problem buddy. Others have the self control to not appear in this general within a week of release.
>>581904379>>581905408I forget how many late 20/early 30-ish net personalities were influenced by 4chan.>>581904313I think in general fan culture has centralized on twitter (impossible to follow large threads or to consolidate information), Discord (opaque to anyone not on a specific server), and for larger communities Reddit (karma points are a mixed bag). Ace Combat was fucking dead for a long time so from what I understand the reddit community died and was just a handful of users ritual posting until TGS, and most of the oldheads at the time had migrated to twitter/Discord. In retrospect it's amazing how /aceg/ survived the entire time as mostly itself, but I guess even with the gacha floods /vg/ has always had room for slower threads.
>>581910017wow that's just great. make excuses for them.
>>581910140Ace Combat has a really really bad community on other sites, so there's basically nowhere else to go.
>being forced to leave my buddies because of twitter niggers posting shit for clouthow about no, fuck you. spoiler your fucking shit
>play Ace Combat 1 yesterday>fun little early 3D arcadey game>play Ace Combat 2 today>vastly better looking and more fun>wonder how the leap between games could be bigger than 1 and 2>start patched Ace Combat 3 todayHoly shit I'm blown away. The aesthetic is so slick, I didn't expect the menus to be that cool. And the gameplay seems even more polished. Is the leap to 4 just as grandiose? Are all the numbered entries like this?
>>581770882>one of the best two hours of any game everwhy not just say>two of the best hours of any game ever
>>581908787Why don't you just report?
>a random fuckwit starts vomiting bullshit while namefagging as some random guy that got a review copy>the entire thread instantly believes himI have bridge to sell you, guys.
>>581907964Anybody larping as liking 04 has no frontal lobe.
>>581911180Who the fuck doesn’t like 4If you don’t then what do you like since every AC game since 4 has been based on 4
4 is literally 2 with plot. The wanking it gets is totally undeserved.
4 is literally 2 with plot. The wanking it gets is totally deserved.
>>581910504>Holy shit I'm blown away. The aesthetic is so slick, I didn't expect the menus to be that cool. And the gameplay seems even more polished.Watching game studios mature during the PS1 era is something really special. The Armored Core PS1 games give me a similar feeling.>Is the leap to 4 just as grandiose? Are all the numbered entries like this?Yes, but not as experimental story-wise. 3's fun, after going in blind for a run or two it's helpful to look at a guide to see what missions you missed. The big routes are very blatant but some optional missions/routes don't really stand out.4 and on is where Strangereal starts to comebinto its own as a setting, and each PS2 game feels like a refinement of the previous entry. 6 is where the franchise peaks mechanically, with an overall good story but maybe without the peaks that the PS2 narratives had. 7's a bit dumbed down due to development troubles but it's got a fantastic plane roster and some really memorable songs.8's looking like it's shaping up to be the best overall package in the franchise, although that might just be 7-years-since-the-last-installment hype.
>>581903225If you really played the game then what's the plane roster
Anyone here partecipating at the watch\hear party of the 30th anniversary orchestra today?It's 11hours from now on marcomeatball's channel
>>581914490Yeah I'll be up. No meetings at work tomorrow lol
>>581914702cool, i hope to share it with plenty of buddies
>>581910814Do you accept payment in crypto?
>>581874909THIS IS THE NAIAD
I don't really like it when games have a BUY THINGS option on the main menu.That's a thing I don't really like.
>>581874909>I just knocked out the brigade commander, we'd also like to help!
>the space elevator got destroyedWhat was the point of 7 then
Is tasha white or asian? I cant tell.
>>581921426>you repair stonhengeWhat was the point of 4 then
>>581921583Worse, she is a Slav.
>>581921657>nations gets taken over by corposWhat was the point of borders then
Young erusean officers are behind the sotoan invasion
>>581922285Yet what is a nation?
>>581923552Your mom
Giga oldfag that never got into this franchise. Was randomly recommended some of the OST recently and loved the tracks I heard. Suspect I may be missing out on some kino. How story heavy are these games actually? Is 7 a decent place to start before I play 8?
>>581925158The stories of each game are pretty self contained. But often have callbacks to past games.
>>581925158Not heavy, but referential.7 hearkens back to 4, 5, and Zero on a number of occasions, but you can dive straight in without prior knowledge because it will give you the gist of things.
>Booted up AC7 for the first time in like two years to get some practice in>Getting trashed by Rage and Scream on Anchorhead Raid (not even on Ace, only on Hard)is this part just way harder than I remember or is it just over for me
>>581926401AngyTwins is a diceroll between a 30s fight and a 5m fight. No in between. This applies to both SP1 and SP2.
>>581926401Joust them with machine guns. you only need to kill one.
>>581926401The DLC missions are a step above the base game. You just kinda need to get used to the game pressing you a lot harder than usual.
>>581904025Yeah i'm gonna doubt this guy because it doesn't fit well with be achievement leaks
When will this be in an AC gamehttps://youtu.be/twQlpFrm5iM?is=c4mF2_iOUebPuLE0
>>581926401Staying ín the ESM bubble also helps the bat fight but >>581926757 and >>581929259 are both true.
You knowWe all asume the 3 flight formation in end of the story trailer is because one of our wingmen dieBut have considered Project Aces doing something never done before and having Rex be the one to actually die in the end?
>>581934226Have we considered that Story trailer scenes are actually in chronological order and Bamco spoiled the entire story?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XLlukhUl7kA button to skip 30-minute opening cutscene?
Where the hell's the third episode of Zero Hour?
Good morning.Your reminder of the death flags pointing to Tasha getting killed off:>> Tasha has a civilian aerobat background sets her up to be killed for the "Sorry kids, this ain't Macross" moment. Think of it as a reverse Roy Focker.>> Young impressionable pilot just like PJ>> She is flying the same position in the squadron as Chopper did at #3>> Latest trailer gave her considerable focus. Characters who are prominent in advertising are likely to get killed off>> Trailer featured her looking straight at the camera, almost as if she is preparing a suicide ramming attack. The trailer cuts right to the missing man formation scene.>> Kate is shown flying in the missing man formation scene given the lighting, hinting that she will survive and take Tasha's place ala Swordsman taking over Chopper's spot>> Tasha says "It ain't over yet!" in a voice and tone that is all but screaming pre-sacrifice dialogue>> Funeral scene with the FCU flag draped coffin. It can't be Cope's because everyone knows he dies in the prologue. And an FCU carrier wouldn't have a Yuke flag on ready.>> Can't kill Professor because Project Aces already killed the black guy in 7>> Can't kill Noise because death would be too obvious and just retreading Chopper's what with the rock and roll motif, lacking emotional impact.>> Killing Tasha would be genuinely shocking and instill a massive emotional gut punch reminding the player of what the stakes are.
>>581940689Schizo copeRex is the one who dies
>>581938186When my browser window is half-width, more video populate the screen real-estate with truncated titles and other info below each thumbnail, such that premiere date and time are not shown.When my browser window is full-width, fewer videos populate the screen, but I get all the video info.Not a big deal, but it seems like it could be better. Or maybe not!
All these death flags based on past patterns but it would be funny if all the core characters survived in this game.
>>581934226>Rex dying in the endI like the idea at least. The only times they've ever really addressed the player character as essentially disappearing by the end of the game is Electrosphere and Zero, the former where you're an AI and the latter doing this whole song and dance about a documentary where the real people try and guess what Cipher, the player character, was like and why he was so good. It would be a neat in-universe allusion, I like it. I dunno if it'll happen, but I like it at least.
Surely Belkans will actually help us in a game for once since Sotoa looks like they're pissing off every country, right?
>>581940806based hopechad
>>581940718>>581940806Nope.Every AC game except 6 has seen at least one wingman death and I've already explained numerous times that Professor and Noise are safe because killing them off just retreads past death moments with no emotional impact.Rex potentially dying at the end doesn't rule out anything.Sorry Tashabros but it's time to accept the fact that she is not surviving this game. She will be killed by Shadow 22 around the two-thirds mark and Kate will take her place. It was obvious ever since it was revealed she was #3 in the squadron, the same position that Chopper and PJ occupied.
>>581760824>HB has the game for steam steam at a discount>still want to buy it on my Xbox to try and avoid hackers and cheatersI know it has kernel level anti cheat but I don't trust the modern-day pc gamer to not be a complete shit head.
You know, Air Combat started two trends that buddies hate:>Defaults to simplified controlsIn fact it's worse in this case because it doesn't even ask you about control type. I bet a lot of people didn't go visit the options menu (its a PS1 game after all) and didn't even know about expert controls.>You're an international air force team fighting "terrorists" who somehow control ports, cities, mines, oil fields, a navy, an air force, an aircraft carrier, and a flying fortressAssault Horizon lmao
>>581943380Unlikely to be an issue. The game is crossplay so it's not like cheaters will be a PC only problem. They'll be fucking with everyone, and that means the devs will be forced to pay attention.
>>581943598It was the nineties, military fiction back then considered terrorists to be more than goatfuckers and basically treated them as entire militaries unto themselves.
>>581943974You can turn off crossplay from a system level on xbox via your profile and privacy settings.
>>581942843We already have multiple screenshots of 4-plane formation with Kate instead of Baxter. Including this one (>>581906863).
> "They're not killing off Tasha you schizo"https://www.invenglobal.com/articles/25646/kazutoki-kono-ace-combat-8-has-the-largest-scale-in-franchise-history> Personally, I'm on Team Kate Evans, so I didn't expect Tasha to become this popular worldwide.> Work on Tasha started relatively early, and she was originally designed by a different artist. She is also the character that took the longest to finalize. *Her story and direction were already set*, but we kept modifying various aspects afterward, making her the character we refined the longest during development. That's why inside the development team, we jokingly call her 'the most expensive character.' (Laughs)> I think elements like her personality, outfit, and especially her sense of fashion in wearing military attire so uniquely happened to fit current trends well, which contributed to all the attention she received.Does that sound like a character expected to survive in the end?>>581945028The LRSSG regularly rotated pilots in 7, that tells us nothing.
>>581938186It's the tutorial for new players.
https://youtu.be/6XLlukhUl7k Can't wait for Tasha's black boyfriend back in yuktobania waiting for her reveal.I just trolling
>>581944630Most people won't do that though, so if you do then you'll have nobody to play with. Unless PC cheating is so common that a lot of console players will bother doing it to get away from them, but if it gets that bad then the devs would probably do something about it. Probably. Maybe.
>>581874909<< Strategic AI chose Liberty over Justice >>
>>581945028I can only make out Rex's aircraft number in that screenshot.
>>581950162It's 203, 412, 277, 191.I haven't paid attention so I don't know who's who.You may need to get your eyes checked.
>>581950162Zoom in nigga, it's a big screenshot.From 203 (Rex), 412 (Tasha), 277 (Coster), 191 (Presumably Kate). 204 is Baxter.Compare with www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixjxwmCxsCw at 1:49
>>581950778>>581950818>Noise keeps his Tasha-waifu>Rex gets the Kono-designated-waifu KateJoker squadron be FUCKIN' during mission downtime.
>>581893445>Pike comes back in the last mission driving the salvaged land battleship from mission 9.That would be kino
>>581911002>Image taken during the Stealth Demension invasion
Kate is for making loveTasha is for fucking
>>581945715I'll just wait till next week when I have the game and see it then.
>>581952356could you people be any more cringe, weird, annoying and embarrassing?
>>581953653Prez walked so Tasha could run
>>581953653First day on the net?
>>581953653yeah
Am I the only guy who wasn't really bothered by the length of MGS4's cutscenes?I didn't like some of the ones in 3 but that was more because they'd go on an insane tangent and just talk in front of a slide show like a cheap youtuber (before YouTube video essays) for a while.
>>581953653Lol you should try diving into a different general and find out.
>>581953653Welcome to animefags. Best to just ignore them the same you ignore downies or pigeons.
>>581954720>4chan>animefagsAnon just where do you think you are?
>>581954906Twitter. He forgot he had 4Chan in his bookmarks from 18 years ago and clicked it by accident, many such cases.
I hope there's tons of IM@S skins for ACO just so we can give the normalfags aneurysms.
I'm on a media blackout on AC8. Should i watch those episodes before playing the game?
>>581955658
>>581955582You mean Hour Zero? Then yes its a prequel to the game give it a watch, next ep is tomorrow and the last part is on the 29th.
When is Hour zero 3?
>>581955582You'll probably enjoy them more if you watch them now but so far they've revealed very little about the game. They're pretty self contained. Judging from the hour zero trailer the next episode will have a little more to do with the game but nothing you haven't seen in the trailers.So it won't spoil you on anything but you don't need to watch it either.
AETHERA DOMA!
sacrificing myself for Tasha, shit would be so peak!
UBIQUE, UBIQUE!
Peple always ask what happened to cypher or mobius 1 but the fuck happened to my goat Phoenix?Did he die to the asteroid?
>>581953653Yes we could be any other online Ace Combat community Admittedly it comes with the territory; everyone who made good mods for 7 was severely mentally ill in one way or another
>>581956858Lives a long and profitable life he took part in Osea event they held in 2020.
>>581956858What if Phoenix is Mobius 1
Release day gets closer...How bad of an idea is it to buy a used graphics card on Facebook again?
>>581958436Phoenix=Scarface 1He is not Mobius 1
https://youtu.be/EFxtY4giPk0?si=klkTK76lEtNNiElK>when I close my eyes, the sky in my dreams is a deep, dark blue I remember when I put the disc in my PS4 for the first time, when Avril took off and the music started to swell I actually fucking cried. I thought Ace Combat was dead but here I was playing a new entry. I'm welling up just thinking about it, Jesus Christ.Thank you for everything 7, you are worthy to stand alongside the rest.
>>581958585Nvidia equivilant?
>>581958619There's less than 10 years in between both games, and both fought at the same continent, Scarface could have been offered an official spot at ISAF
>>581958760Still have not beaten the game yet, just got pass stonehenge.
>>581958982Mobius is a rookie at the start of 4, they are not the same.
>>581958989Enjoy the ride bro.
>>581958767Roughly a 4080/5070Fuckers are like $900 on newegg or amazon
>>581874909<<ABOVE YOU FLIES THE WINGS OF THEVE>>It just goes so hard bros.
okay so in this game you fly warplanes and......?
ONE WEEK.DON'T DIE.
>>5819587675070 Ti in raster, only with worse raytracing and FSR will always be worse than DLSS
>>581958585If you wanna get scammed out of $650 just send me the cash instead at least I'll blow it on AC 8/Online.
>>581958585i went from a 1080ti to a amd 9070xt and i've loved it so far, no issuesbut if used it at $650 cant you get new at like 750 or 800?
>>581959487What to expect:peak music album + game attached in which you're usually plane jesus into a metal gear-esque antiwar anime storyplease consult the chart:>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGjhIi_Pp98
>>581959487Metal Gear Solid in the skies
>>581959570>aces died before AC8 release
>>581914490Sounds fun, I'll probably listen to it while doing my Expert run of 6.
>>581959487do fun things with them
Kono postYes the overwork caught up with himYes the game is almost here
I really wish physical PC games weren't functionally extinct outside of special releases and the occasional indie that fits on a CD-ROM. Anyways speaking of, I'm guessing a physical pre-order for consoles won't come with early access right?
>>581962603AC players are going to start hearing Kono in their brains the same way we hear Cope in gameStay healthy, Kono
>>581959570I'll fly for those who doDo it for me if I don't make it
>>581908079I too would like to know this.Academics please respond
>>581943380Kernel level means nothing. People were cheating BF6 day one with its kernel+TPM+secure boot tax.Plus it's going to run in Linux since bamco always checks the compatibility box.
>>581963453>>581908079It's either 28th September or 1th OctoberI would lean towards 1th october but i wouldn't bet on it
>>581963551>>581943380i'm gonna plug in my cheat engine and give myself unlimited premium currency
>>581963759Based
>>581963759And anon was banned on day 1
>>581964178he was a good ace
>>581958760https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rv-IMLnXhcIt didn't get me until the first mission. Perfectly captured that feeling of it being a return to form after so long.
>>581964590Charge Assault when it drops, it gives you the "WE ARE SO BACK" feeling
This site is such a shithole now, this and twitter. After AC8 I am done with this site. I am so hyped I just...it has to be amazing.
CERTE
>>581965547?
>tfw 6700 xt>not even meeting the requirements for 60 fake frames at 1080p>tfw 1440p monitorguess I'm cooked
Esto liber,OH, ESTO LIBER
>>581966015You were warned multiple times to upgrade before it was too late. Waitcucks never win...
>>581966129NTA but requirements for AC8 are a fucking joke and they deserve to get publicly flogged for them.
>>581966129i'll buy the game and see if there's a way to get decent performance with shit settings and/or upscaling, if not then I'll cave in and get something new
>>581959774Can't you run DLSS on AMD cards if the game supports it? I've seen games offer DLSS, FSR, and XeSS regardless of what hardware you have.
>>581966903Maybe through some frankenstein modded dlls or something, and even then it's probably still not as good as real dlss on nvidia hardware
>>581959138He's a squadron leader though.
>>581966903No. You can convert DLSS to any FSR version supported by your card using optiscaler but that's risky with anticheat.
I have never played project wingman
>>581967043Most genAI is hardware agnostic, I don't see why DLSS would be any different. At least for the basic upscaler, not the framegen garbage.>>581967094Pretty sure I've seen it in games. Like in E33 you can select all 3 upscaler options regardless of what card you have, as long as it has hardware AI acceleration. Same thing in Screamer.
>>581967398You're not missing muchI can understand the boner this general has for it but it's really not that great of a game, it's just a competent and fun enough AC clone, it's just ok
>>581967398I will never play games made by chuds or populated with them
>>581966630>A brand new AAA game recommends a 6 year old midrange card and the minimum is an 8 year old budget cardWow, what a shocker. Truly game developers have lost their way. We should go back to the times when you could only run games at max settings on SLI or crossfire setups. People have been spoiled by Pascal being such a huge leap in performance and 8th gen consoles being so hilariously underpowered that all games developed for them could run on toasters.
>>581967398its great and you're missing outnows the perfect time to do a playthrough before ac8 is out, get the dlc too
>>581967534The story is ass but the music is pretty good and the AoA module is the one of the best things ever put into an arcade flight game. Wish AC8 copied it instead of keeping their PSM minigame that you can only do with specific button inputs at near stall speeds.
>>581874909During pipeline destruction one of the background spare guys says <<Suck on this!>> and it lives in my head rent free
>>581964178>>581963859still waiting for a ban on helldivers 2 after i cheated in 1 million supercredits a year and a half agobeen buying all the shit for free since then kek
>>581963590Thank you anon
>>581967759>completely ignores the rest of requirements>all for a measly 60FPS at medium settings with upscaling I shudder to think what will be needed to run it on ultra or high.
>>581967678The chud says, while posting in a chud thread on a chud website
>>581970827>completely ignores the rest of requirementsYou're right, I completely forgot you also need a 5 year old CPU, an SSD(something which became standard over a decade ago), and 32 gigs of RAM, which people were running even back in 2020, earlier for enthusiast builds. > I shudder to think what will be needed to run it on ultra or high.Recommended hardware for 4K60 high is a 4080, which seems pretty reasonable.
>>581903225Anon, I don't know if you're still here, but I need to know. Aside of the FA-36 and the ADFX-02 Morgan, what else can we see of fictional designs?
If you want to know if and how you run AC8, try (pirate) or download the game BodycamExcluding RAM (AC requires more) it has the same requirements + it's early access and (kinda) poorly optimized + same build of UE5It should be as close as you can get.
AC8's public demos were dropping frames with a 5080 dough.
>>581971137>some people were running 32gb in 2020>so that means it should be a standard nowAll of that for a fucking plane game. I'd be more understanding if AC8 decided to branch out into being a tank game or something. Oh...carrier.
we literally live in the age of badly optimized games running on infamously dogshit engines and people still don't see it and defend retarded requirements>just buy better hardwarenot the fucking point, retard
>>581971645Nigger 16 gigs was standard in like 2010. Stop pretending that 32 gigs is some unreasonable target just because RAM recently shot up in price. You had plenty of time to upgrade.Almost 40% of Steam users have 32 gigs and Steam is full of russians and jeets who only play CS2 and Dota on some ancient Dell optiplex that they slapped a 750 ti into.
>>581971860Plus hardware progress has severely stagnated. And thanks to AI we won't even be seeing any new GPUs in the consumer space until 2028.
>>581971860Should have known another doomer would show up before release.
>>581971860>If a game can't run at max settings on my 10 year old 1080 it is... badly optimisedBrilliant insight.
>>581971937>16 was a standard in 2010On fucking Mars? Since it certainly wasn't on Earth.
>>581972121Yes, because visual fidelity barely changed since the 1080 era but for the same output now you need 5x the "power" and 10x the price
>>581972262>Yes, because visual fidelity barely changed If you can't see the huge upgrade AC8 got over AC7 you need an ophthalmologist.
What I find fucking grim is that the recommended requirements target upscaled 1080p. Not even fucking native 1080p
<< Chopper! >>
>>581972161I think most people had 16 gigs by the time the PS4 released, which was 2013.
>>581962603Y'all think he might retire after this one? He's been at this for a while. Is 55 a retiring age in Japan?
>>581972478True, it's a bit dumb. They should've upped the required GPU to a 3080 which can probably run the game at native 1080p.
>>581972569I had a retard moment and assumed Anon meant it was a standard for game requirements.
For those who preordered on the Bandai Namco store, is it supposed to say awaiting payment? I saw my card get charged a week ago but the charge disappeared yesterday.
>>581972724Or they could have made the game run on hardware according to its graphics, because AC8 doesn't look near lifelike enough to have such requirements.And they COULD have done. They just can't be arsed.
>>581973062Get your eyes checked, it looks amazing. Especially those clouds with RTGI. Which game do you think looks better? Cyperbunk 2077 with path tracing that chugs even on a 5080?
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>>581973185I didn't say it doesn't look good.
>>581972707>55>retiring age in JapanLAMO just LAMORetiring age in Japan is when I die at work or hit 80 which ever comes first. Kono still has a good 25 years in him or way more if he can upload his brain like he pointed out on his chart of AC's future development plans.
>>581972398Nigga, it is better, but do you remember the jumps in graphical fidelity we used to get during gaming's golden era, for barely any extra cost, THANKS to optimization?By those metrics, yeah, AC8's graphics ARE slightly better. But that's not the point.The industry is moving toward AI and automation for basically everything because it cuts development costs. You don't need to manually optimize lighting, just turn on RTX and take the performance hit. You don't need to optimize assets properly because everyone has an SSD. You don't need to optimize textures because DLSS can compensate. And UE5 is a GOOD engine, but it becomes slop in the hands of developers who use it as an excuse not to optimize.You're buying 32 GB of RAM and a new GPU not because games are making massive leaps that genuinely require them. You're buying them because you have to fill the fucking hole developers leave behind by shifting more and more of the production cost onto the consumer.
>>581973434So what the fuck do you want? It runs on a PS5. It runs on hardware roughly equivalent to a PS5. If you want better graphics and a higher resolution you need hardware roughly equivalent to a PS5 Pro. If you want 120 fps you need a high end card like a 4080 and you'll probably have to drop down to 1440p.Do you just want game devs to stay in 2013 forever and just target PS4 level hardware because there are diminishing returns on realistic graphics?>>581973632An equivalent leap nowadays would require absolutely insane hardware that doesn't even exist and that has nothing to do with optimisation. Going from 80% realism to 90% realism is just as hard as going from 90% to 95% and from 95% to 97.5%.>You don't need to manually optimize lighting, just turn on RTX and take the performance hit.While this is partly true it's also ignoring that there are certain things you can only do with hardware RT. At some point you just have to take the performance hit if you want graphics to advance.A lot of games from the golden era were actually pretty poorly optimised, in terms of taking advantage of your hardware. They could only use a single CPU core despite multi-core CPUs being the standard, they couldn't properly utilise all the functionality of modern GPUs like async shaders, and those huge leaps in graphical fidelity came at the cost of needing SLI 780s to run games on max settings.
I got around 60 fps with an RTX 2070 Super with launch Metro: Exodus at an upscaled 1080p (the smeary mess that was DLSS1). Medium settings and RT Medium.They were released at pretty much the same time in 2019 as part of the first wave of RTX software and hardware.So from my perspective, it's a pleasant surprise that an RTX 3070 and a 5600X might deliver around 60 fps upscaled 1080p (DLSS Model ?) with medium settings and required RTin a game coming out six years later.Of course, we'll have to see what happens when the game actually comes out.Indeed, several PC releases should not have happened the way they did (Star Wars Jedi: Survivor, that abysmal TLOU1 or 2 port, etc.).But I encourage a degree of historical awareness and knowledge, and not mere historical memory.Honestly, I think most people will be constrained by their CPUs more than anything else this time around.
>>581974541>Honestly, I think most people will be constrained by their CPUs more than anything else this time around.At least CPUs are dirt cheap so you can just slap in an upgrade as long as your mobo supports it.
>>581974490This is hell let loose vietnam. A new UE5 game.I get 20 fps in this game, and this is the visual fidelity i haveNow tell me, where's the leap in technology that you are talking about when half life 2 looked better on a comparable SHIT hardware?
>>581974698Very true. A small saving grace.I'm maxed-out on my platform but okay for now.
>>581975940>This is hell let loose vietnamBuggy literally who early access game. What does that have to do with AC8? Nobody ever claimed that there aren't any terrible games that look like shit and run like ass. Many of them were even made by huge publishers and not some randos.And this is not even particularly new nor is it exclusive to games using hardware RT, plenty of UE4 games were just as bad, as were Unity games, and even games using inhouse engines like Frostbite. >half life 2Not a great example, considering Far Cry was released in the same year and looks a lot better. But this is basically my point, you can't make a game look that much better than Far Cry(2004) that can run on basically any work laptop these days. Realistic graphics are about eliminating small imperfections and every advance costs twice as much as the previous ones. This is not something devs can just get around with optimisation. Making a model look like 10% more realistic sometimes requires quadrupling the polycount and there's just no way around it.Hell, it's the same for video. DVD quality still looks pretty good on a decent screen, especially if the DVD was mastered well. 4K bluray has like 10x the pixel density yet at best it looks 50% sharper.
Carrier take-offs are always kino
I just hope I can reach 60fps on ultra low with my shitty 6600x and 720p screen, yes I am that much of a poor third worlder.
im used to playing ps2 stuff and retro games, i dont mind if mine looks like shit, i just want to play ace 8
>>581978481same buddy, playability above all else
>>581978298It's better than a 2060, you'll probably be able to get 60(with some drops when a lot of shit is onscreen).
I just hope I can reach 120 fps at 1440p(some amount of upscaling is acceptable) on my 9070 XT.
>>581973037YesYou get the game whenever it arrives by mail. No ifs, ands, or buts
>>581979432>saying "thank you" to an unfeeling botWhy though?
>>581978298>720pYour CPU is more important at that point.
https://youtu.be/rSKtYE3bjogI know vtuber models get performance intensive & I don't know her specs but she do be lagging here
>>581979549>>581979549It's fakeThe game is emailed to you at launch
>>581979654>trannytubersfuck off
>>581980158It's funny watching people tilt their heads while they fly like little kids turning controllers in their hands
>>581980308Do you not still do both of those things?
>>581979565I got a 5 5600x so I think I might be fine
>>581979549If we abandon our manners we might as well just go back to living in caves and smashing each other's heads open with rocks.
>>581979978Ah well fuck that other anon then.
>>581980158Funnily enough this one is from a corpo that belongs to Namco.
I wana play the gaemWhat happened to the show btw?
>>581981010Two more episodes.Act 3 on the 23rd.Epilogue on the 29th.6am P[D]T / 9am E[D]T
So how long will the honeymoon period last this time? It took around 3 months for people to realise that AC7 was actually kinda shit.
>>581982738Probably a bit shorter because of the multiplayer battlepass
>>581875304<<Jean-Luc, they are all ribbons!>>Or something like that
I don't give a shit who dies I just wanna point at people and laugh when it's revealed.
>>581967398I rather enjoyed it
>>581983504What if the dog dies?
>poorfags are kvetching about specs againYou had like 5 fucking years to grab a 64 gig set of DDR5 RAM for pennies and any semi-decent GPU.
>>581954131The long cutscenes would've been received a lot better if the gameplay to cutscene ratio wasn't so terrible, it would also have helped if the gameplay wasn't mediocre and the story being told was at least decent instead of awful.
>Mage Squadron>Enchanter Squadron>Wizard Squadron>Sorcerer Squadronwhat is Osea's problem
>>581980158>trannytubersis the automobile transmission in this room with us, anon?
>>581986885They like to complain about belkan wizardry or whatever but in the end they just really want to be like them deep down
>>581986885>Skeleton>Golem>Cyclops>StriderThey're big on Dungeons and Dragons
>>581982738>>581983127Multiplayer honeymoon will wear off fast but I think it'll take a while before anyone's ready to talk about any flaws the campaign has, unless they drop the ball really hard.
>>581874909>Settle down. Excited to have another murderer flying with you?>YEAH
whats hypervisor and how come every game crack needs it now
>>581990165Assuming our resident leaker isn’t full of shit there’s probably going to be an immediate civil war between people who think the campaign is deep and meaningful and people who think Katabuchi vanished up his own ass
>>581991732Virtual Machine manager that lets you share your physical hardware. Most hypervisor cracks require that you run the game inside a VM, real Denuvo cracks are unfortunately still quite rare.
>>581955832>Belkahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJsAK9NU6Pg
>>581992956You never know. It took people 10 years to finally admit that AC5's story(and gameplay if we're being honest) was actually a bit shit.
>>581990165Hopefully multiplayer gets plenty of support with maps and missions and whatnotI was pretty disappointed finally playing Infinity and finding out how few missions it actually had, to say nothing of singleplayerThe amount of potential is ridiculous so hopefully they actually achieve some of it
>>581993169Yeah because they played it when there were kids and weren’t on /aceg:
>>581993065That takes me back
T - 9 DAYS
>>581995875https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qD_NVlo8uTI
>>581996186Just realized years later SACS were Rafales for the nukes. Convenient at least
>>581995875>>581996186ugh!! ACE COMBAT!
>>581995875erm?
>>581997174good goys do not apply
>>581997174Daylight Acings
>>581997174You better spoil this shit the second you get access to it, I have people to laugh at
>>581996574Also the only non US choice that meets the criteria.
>>5819979255 Days and change until I make my comments on the last part of Zero Hour then perform an emergency turn and get away from this thread until I have played the game. Guess I won't be joining in MP with the thread until I clear the game
>>581993169>>581993393So how long until we're ready to admit 4 is boring as hell?
Zero is too short and overrated when you get down to it
>>581992956The leaker who said the campaign was really deep and the greatest thing ever is an attention seeking troon, just saying.
>>582000871Its not you just have shit taste
>>582001029How far are we going down to it? If it's the start of the timeline wouldn't you say it's far up to it?
>>582001029It's ok for length but the story pacing is all over the place
>>582001029kill yourself
>>582001435I liked the ones with Nintendo nose arts too. Shame the USAF is so pissy about noseart so we can't get it more often. But that makes it special when it happens I guess.
>>582001435The joker got the least kills out of everyone.
>>582001109You personally verified the status of his genitals?
Rex are you sure about this configuration for an air to air mission?
>>582001859Stop mocking me retard, fuck you
"Leaker" here again (for posterity, this isn't breaking any contracts, you're beyond clueless if you think we are signing NDA's for review codes lol)Sincerely debating getting a bag and streaming all of AC8 early Friday. Is there a way to do this privately out of respect for morons who would prefer to beat their cocks fantasizing about insane fan theories that never stood any chance of being realized?Game runs really good btw so don't stress about that
>>582002983<<YES>>
Insider here.Game run bad on 40-50 series gpus.Torres was caught having gay buttsex in mission 29.
>>582003512What's this aircraft in the game? Prove yourself.
>>582002945Its pretty obvious if you check its twitter page
You now remember the "poop on my moms boobs" schizo from 7's launch week.
>>582001109If I wanted attention like that I wouldn't write for print under an alias. >>582003763That's the electronic warfare variant of the GAME-36. It doesn't have an EML pod.
>>582003848I don't use twitter.
>>582002983I really do hope at least one plane has GRKTs and they're actually good like the APKWS are in reality.
>>582004064most forced garbage ever
>>582004127Words mean nothing here buddy this is /aceg/ only screenshots matter.
>>582004279Neither I, the giant namefag tag took only a minute to check it anyways.
>582003512>582004127tits or gtfo
>>582003512>Game runs really good btwSpecs?
>>582003512Assuming you're telling the truth, are you saying all the theories about Enso and sublimation are way off the mark?
Thursday bros hold the line
>>582003512You're a fucking retard. You're already being reported via official channels to Bamco. It's over, start packing your desk because you're about to lose your job.
BASED project aces gatekeeping AC8 from ASEAN poorfags by instituting white person levels of discretionary spending income as a baseline for experiencing LVDO
>>582005467Sublimation theory never made any sense and people pushing it had never actually played AC3
>>582006270You think you can fire... the CEO?
>>582007561What about Enso? The leak's synopsis of the final act didn't mention them in a anyway even though the previews are suggesting they are some sort of successor to Grunder that's playing both sides.
>>582003512Nah, just let people play the game and find out how stupid their theories are that way. > Is there a way to do this privatelyUnironically chaturbate. No clips, no VODs, no actual requirement to set up a facecam and get naked.
>>582007803You're the CEO of PC Gamer?
>>582008025That's not true, you have to get developer permission to use Chaturbate to stream games. My friend is a camgirl and she had to write to the Factorio devs to stream it nude there
>>582008442So just don't stream it nude? Chaturbate allows non-nude streams and even streams without a facecam.
Have they actually ported Zero to PC or is the pre-order only for ps5?
>>582007906Maybe they’re just not in the final mission Also their AI uses a distributed architecture, it’s not sublimation
>>582008828But Enso does have a role to play in the endgame, right? Otherwise what was the point of even highlighting them if Sotoa is the only villain.
>>582008697it says it right there on the steam page, you... you double-belkan
>>582009315Grey men 2.0
>>582009315What was the point of hilighting Mihaly in AC7 if he isn’t there for the final mission
>>582009860ac7 isnt ac8
>>582010572Same people working on it, they just have a higher budget and don’t have to redo all the missions halfway through development this time
>>582010665Same people working on a game means that game will play out like the game before down to a T? Woah...I guess 7 was actually Assault Horizon all this time...
>>582006270>deskWhat you seem to not know about games journalism could fill chasms. The presumption of that even being a "job" is ludicrous
>>582010946If Assault Horizon had Katabuchi doing the plot it would have turned out looking very familiar
>>582007473I am not from that zone, neither do I lack the PC to play it but I'll make sure to spoil the game to someone, anyone who cares to combat this racism
>>5820167177?
>>582017047VI 7
« FOR THE GLORY OF OUR COUNTRY »
>>581993312I hope the crossplay and pve will keep it highly active for a long time. I was a late comer to 7, and more than anything else in the game I wanna fly and hang out with buddies, especially in the emergency sorties
will we finally get acx planes in glorious hdwe only got fenrir in infinity, it's like they forgot about them
>>582022445maybe in a battlepass, we know almost the entire plane roster and the only ones we dont know is the superplane or something
>>582022445I sure hope so
>>582008025
>>581979654Wow a TGS video of 8 with someone that actually uses expert controls.>mission 11 gameplayI can see that mission being a filter with so many targets and the ECM aircraft making things harder.
>japanese game>no japanese pilotkekaru
>>582028813Rex's real name is actually Lex
cant wait to find a belkan is involved >>>AGAIN<<<
>>582029108It has to be Cope. Why would they hide his nationality otherwise!
>>582029386He's Sotoan
Planes
>>581841103I have said this before, but if the game is gonna ball-massage any sort of connection to Electrosphere, then the final plane unlocked in single player should be an F-16XF Gyrfalcon.
>>581874909Brownie breathing hard in to her mic
how much money would it cost to buy one of those room sized airforce training things. i saw one when i went on an aircraft carrier tour once and i thought "hmmm what a wise investment it would be to put this in my home". line for it was massive though so i didnt get a go
>>581986885You forgot that the single best name for a shady, top secret tech testing squad is IRL
>>582004673>MGS3 theme starts softly in the distance
>>581874909<< It's not over yet. >><< The real war has just begun. >><< Corrupt governments and marred lands are no longer worth fighting to protect. >><< There's only one thing worth protecting now. >><< And that's the future. >><< Strigon Team has fled the combat airspace. >><< We've won... >>Pasternak's a super cool dude, especially compared to Mihaly and Crimson. Too bad most of Strigon tossed their futures away by continuing to fight.
>>582036687>how much money would it cost to buy one of those room sized airforce training things.Go ask these people>https://www.faac.com/military/air/
more like jane cuck amiright bros
>>582033132LMAOOOOOOO
>>582040732That last line is a mistranslation because he's talking about a personal victory though. He won, not anyone else.I don't find him that great as a character since he's kinda underdeveloped, but at least he's better than Mihaly. Holy shit is Mihaly bad.
>>581945627>> Personally, I'm on Team Kate EvansWhat a fucking KING. LITTLE BEE CHADS RISE UP.
>>581874909<< Let the victor be justice >>
>>581874909<<Yo, Buddy. Still alive?>> And thanks, friend. See you again.
>>582041931>That last line is a mistranslation because he's talking about a personal victory though. He won, not anyone else.Interesting, though that's how I interpreted it anyway. Only recently played 6 thanks to the recomp, English disc doesn't have a JP audio track like 5 and 7 do. Don't remember off the top of my head if 4 and Zero let you do that.>I don't find him that great as a character since he's kinda underdeveloped, but at least he's better than Mihaly. Holy shit is Mihaly bad.I find it refreshing to have another Yellow 13 style rival who by all means is a decent person that just so happens to be your enemy. Pasternak doesn't have much character but all of it points to him being an easygoing dude who respects Talisman and values his team over himself. Of course, it doesn't help that most of the time he's a side character to the side characters, so he doesn't leave much of an impression besides the one joke.Mihaly and Crimson are just assholes in comparison. By the time they get their super planes you've already kicked their ass two or three times, compared to the Nosferatu where he comes out of nowhere after the longest mission of the game using a plane with unique gimmicks. And their motivations aren't as sympthetic with Mihaly wanting to fly regardless of the cost and Crimson just being a butthurt loser schizo trying to go another round. I wonder what kind of Ace Shadow 22 will be.
part 3 fucking when?
