>What is /feg/?/feg/ is the general dedicated to the discussion of games from the Fire Emblem franchise.>Fire Emblem Series Summaryhttps://rentry.org/y8rkm>Fire Emblem Series Emulation Guidehttps://rentry.org/7368i/>Fire Emblem Heroes Event Calendarshttps://x.com/FE_Heroes_EN/status/2098245226813079948>Fire Emblem Heroes Links & Guideshttps://pastebin.com/TguPqnsT>Fortune's Weave Nintendo Directhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RaZiSBaJfU >Latest FEH Trailerhttps://youtu.be/kArRJI3uffw >Latest FES Trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DUkME-SZKY >/feg/ National Anthemhttps://youtu.be/_2i6ARd5SD4Previous: >>581750402
Engage was good
Apologize to Dorothea NOW
FW might suck but engage made sure that any FE game released after it will look like a masterpiece
>>581762034GOATcone
My wife is perfect!
When I was playing Genealogy my constant thought was wow, Sigurd is so cool, his story is so tragic, I hope he gets enslaved by a vtuber clown someday and is used to kill civilians. Oh and make all of his moves references to a dog shit gacha, thanks.
>>581762290>Oh and make all of his moves references to a dog shit gacha, thanks.Which moves?
>>581762195Leda has a good reason to be the way she is. Dorothea is just a whore and massive hypocrite because "waaa i was poor once"
>>581762239She's not your wife, Dagda.
>b-b-but engage!Lmao this place is mind broken. Talk about the current game's issues bro. Not the game that raped your mom 3 years ago.
>>581762195What the fuck is wrong with her? She's female Dietrich: hot but absolutely ruined by a rancid personality.
Leda won
>finish the chariot chapter>everybody trying to save tialla's ass while she just stands there scared for a solid minutethis was really stupid lol, game's fun though
>>581762449The normgroid path
>>581762034THE RELENTLESS
>>581762218Based and correct.
I love Fabio.
Why did she do it?
Esmeralda wonned
Is the honeymoon wearing away already?
>>581762439>Engagefags shitpost non-stop>Get shocked when people tell them to fuck off
>>581762290Here's your reddit gold saar
Founders have 3 Crests each, and they follow the order of the tarot. Which means Rhea is not a founder despite calling herself last child of SothisUnnamed First founder>Thorn/Ernest/Fool>Wind/Macuil/Magician>Sky/Seiros/PriestessDagda/The Skyblotter>Crusher/Dominic/Empress>Shield/Fraldarius/Emperor>Bloom/Noa/HierophantUnnamed Third Founder>Light/Cethleann/Lovers>Flame/Daphnel/Chariot>Grim/Blaiddyd/StrengthUnnamed Fourth Founder>Craft/Gloucester/Hermit>Kalpa/Goneril/Wheel of Fortune>Earth/Cichol/JusticeBalor/The Darkest Dark>Ice/Aubin/Hanged Man>Fissure/Gautier/Death>Water/Indech/TemperanceUnnamed Sixth Founder>Storm/Maurice/Devil>Lightning/Charon/Tower>Dark/Timotheos/StarIldanach(dragon name unknown)>Star/Riegan/Moon>Snow/Chevalier/Sun>Aegis/Lamine/JudgementMy unproven theory as of now is that the being we know as Sothis is somehow the first founder as well. She is called "The Beginning" after all.
>>581762617he's going to call you a schizo
is this goober seriously her final bossI was one turn off from being able to do orchel's paralogue. >theo's route ends on 10/24>it said orchel's paralogue was available until 10/27
>FW is a frankenstein's monster combination of 3H, Gaiden, and RD.Kusakihara needs to be studied for picking two of the least popular entries in the franchise to model his game after. I don't hate my time with the game, but goddamn it's such a strange pivot.
>>581762617>attack Engage with schizo arguments >get shit on>muh EngagefagsCope.
>Chimps out at a child for having parentsLmao what a schizo
>>581762570Fuck I must increase their support
So do they ever explain why Dietrich did that whole massacre thing Seteth brought up?
Sex with Fabio
>>581762617Where?
>>581762613Fabio deserved a better game
>>581762792Fabio and Tialla do not have a support.
Who wonneredWho losted
>>581762716Why is she not in the tournament
>>581762803I think the explanation is that after he killed the son of a nobleman in a duel, said nobleman sent a small army after him and Dietrich cut them all down in self-defence.
What am I in for?
>>581762903damn that's a lot of cute girlstoo bad you can't romance any of them
>>581762570No FabioxTialla supportWe were robbed.
>>581762716that'll teach you to put things off, bud. restart the chapter.
>>581762753Three Houses itself was always meant to be some monstrous hybrid of Radiant Dawn and Echoes. It just that>lol>lmao>Switch 1 development>under IntSyswasn't really a feasible deal. Remember, 3H was meant to be a 3DS game. FW is very much his vision let loose for all to witness. And he still have some more tricks up his sleeve, given many revelations left in this game.He reminds me of Akitoshi Kawazu, the director of the SaGa series. Very much in love with his own ideals and no one will stop him from threatening us all with such.
>>581762903Anatolia and me lost big
He's back to having a melty over Engage now that he's bored of shitting on FW
>>581762803Dietrich explains it in the tavern with Majide iirc.
Do Bertrand and Leda have support conversations!
How do we become better men?
>>581762903We all lostwe're all cuckoos stuck in a cage just watching
>>581762570Recruiting Tialla with Dietrich so Fabio has a dedicated board game buddy.
>>581762449>acts like a spiteful whore her whole route>everyone in the story hates her except her 4 simps and Cucksmell if he goes her route>She's only optionally relevant for one part of the story, after which she gives up on her "muh revenge" against BULLtrand and is a complete non-factor after that>Her endings are all platonicWhat did she win exactly?
>>581762753He was in charge of the Wii entry that was supposed to follow RD but got scrapped due to RD flopping. I imagine most of the mechanics in Switch Era FE are being taken from that game's aborted corpse.
>>581763026>Radiant Dawn>Not Genealogywut
>>581762648Whats even the point of Rhea now
>>581762903honestly not a single design here that i dislike.
>>581763026Except Kawazu produces ludo while Kusakihara produces dogshit
Some of the FW supports that are missing are pretty bad desu, it's like if Dimitri didn't support Ingrid/Sylvain/Felix.
>other than Esh we've only seen one Cai and One Dietrich paired endingsMaybe theres only one non Esh paired ending per lord which is supposed to be their canon spouse
>>581762971Skipping turns, autocombat, and raiding the tavern shopkeeper every month to distribute booze to bandits and milk to all the kids in town
>>581763103DLC
I like the music in fortunes weave
>>581763174Genealogy is obviously the baseline, but its clear the whole "army of player characters fighting each other" and "game with obnoxious amount of lore to sell art books" is more a Radiant Dawn card. His first project was the failed RTS prototype that was meant to follow up Radiant Dawn, mind you.
>>581762418No she doesn't. Leda was born into a wealthy family, her father loved her, and she had a capable guardian to protect her.Dorothea is an orphan because her father threw her pregnant mother out into the streets. That same father ignored her once he realized she had been born without a crest, and he even tried to woo her by mistake. Furthermore, unlike Leda, she had no one to watch her back.Even so, Dorothea is far more mentally healthy and aware of her own hypocrisy. She doesn't even hate men, only the nobles who look down on her.
>>581762894That explains why I haven't done it yet. God I hate ghost supports like those. Ash and Yuri in 3H were the same. It got fixed in 3H but damn.
What did he mean by this
>Crits youHow will you respond?
The paralogue maps are super cool. All the ones I've played have been very creative and challenging with interesting objectives.
>>581763579WARUKUNAIIII
>>581762418Dorothea isn't a psycho bitch despite arguably going through a worse time
>>581763134Peter wants Fabio to teach him how to play the games too. I want to see Fabio getting along with the children.
NOTONESINGLEMEMORABLECHARACTER
are we past the dooming yet? both here and /v/ were unbearable since people were busy playing the game so shitposters were the only ones saying anything.
>>581763579ACK!
>>581763150>except her 4 simps and Cucksmell if he goes her routeThis isn't true actually. Her crew doesn't make excuses for her behavior and are put off by it. Her actions aren't sanitized. This isn't like schizo mode Dimitri where everyone just nods their head and agrees because bad writing.
So eshmel and orchel where husband and wife afterall. Why didnt they fuck immediately
>>581763579ow
>>581763687NOPE.Continue playing the game, the TORtanic posting won't stop for another month or 2 at this rate.
>>581763687No, the threads are still full of doomposters who haven't even played it.
>>581763683H-hiyapapayaaa
>>581763579Stop hitting on my Diet Rich
>>581763703the entire point of azure moon is that dimitri being a schizo is a bad thing and he has to get over it
>>581763267>implying IS has the balls to have canon spouses for main characters other than Marth, Alm and SigurdThey're not going to risk angering shippers like that
So is FW good or not? One stream I'm watching is sucking the game off along with the chat, while the other is shitting on it while the chat does the same. Which is it?
>>581762903I won because I bred them all with my massive, melanated Big Bird Cock.
>>581763579so... handsome....
How can I save Tobias so he doesn't die an alcoholic?
Hey random thought Do recruits always come at a set level?Like for example I was about to recruit Goliath, but its literally 2 turns until story, if I go do story then pick him up will he be higher level?
>>581763813>dimitri being a schizo is a bad thingWrong
>>581763195really? 90% of them look like vtuber slop to me
>>581763729Eshmel isn't actually Solel. By default, there wouldn't be anything to recover of Solel's body to make Eshmel beyond the Shining Spear. It couldn't have been years of waiting like Sothis said before Eshmel's soul was placed into their Mediator body. Even I fell for this red herring, but Eshmel appears to be Eshmel, something entirely foreign to everything.
>>581763858If you like mmo style fetch quests and grinding auto play battles, sure
Bullying and abusing him until marriage.
>>581763952That's Engage. And I liked those designs too.
>>581763832Considering the current state of everything I dont think theres any group they arent afraid to anger
>>581762195She really has a nasty personality
>>581763858Its a hit and a miss. Mostly miss but its playable enough, part 3 is tedious and hard for me
>>581763924His A supports are Bonaventure, Lysander, Olympia, Fabio, Theodora and Lilian. Just hope one of them does an intervention I guess
You know, seeing this mix of mechanics discussion, character discussions, and lore/story discussion only happens with fodlankinoThe threads during older releases were a lot different (in a bad way)
cucksmell status?
>no romance in her solo endingTick tock Anatolia deniers. You have ~6 months until her DLC.
>>581763964Then why is eshmels/orchels S rank ending seemed like they are back as husband and wife while living like peasants for the rest of their days
Not a single criticism against FW is legitimate. >muh supports quality over quantity>muh bloatexaggerated>muh unfinished storyit's being saved for DLC>muh part 2is optional>muh part 3it's a new type of strategic gameplay
Thank You Rhea
>>581763703You just made it worse, so what did she win exactly?
anatolia and sha lan drop by to help if you lend them theo's ship for a month.
Sothis sends you back in time and you wake up in 2014, a year after awakening came out. What do you tell the devs to save the series and prevent our fate?
>>581763952Anon engage is the one with the actual vtuber artist(Pic related)
Anatolia loves anal
>>581764206dragon tit milk
>>581763579ha-hayai!
>>581763703>everyone just nods their head and agrees because bad writing>Rodrigue: "No Dimitri, you will hear me out!">Felix "some among us are here for the church, others to oppose Edelgard, to defend Faerghus, and because the professor is here. But if the boar remains... whatever he is, there will be consequences eventually"You didn't play the game
>>581764206The only good thing to come out of sothis.
Headcanons these days...
I think they heard the complaints about peg knights in 3h because this is hard mode and this guy's not particularly tanky.
>>581762903Sofia is unironically the cutestAlexandra is a bit of a downgrade but I am happy for GaitzPeter and Seteth are also lucky to have Mu and Lulu
>>581764187>it's being saved for DLCI'll fight you one this one, if I'm paying *$80* for this game, I'd expect a complete product. Even in regards to Kusakhira's Grand Plan and him holding so much to his chest, you need to have a finished game.all that said i will whore myself out for another $30 once this >>581764183 is real.
I’m on cai war arc. Is it still to late for me to recruit Kelik and Nathan? They’re talking about withdrawing but idk with this game
>>581764183>All in his mind
>>581764121I believe.
>ugliest most hideous person in fire emblem history>one of the most based fire emblem characters ever created
I made a song for sothis. Here it is:Sothis is Christmas, and what have you done?
>>581764371Black Eagles are gayer than these people will ever be
>>581763986That's just courting
>>581764371>Edeltards are latching onto LedaOh no
>>581763703>where everyone just nods their head and agrees because bad writing.Hmm, aren't you forgetting someone?? You know, the chad who admonishes and saves the fallen prince
After having played a bit more, I've come to realize that the reason why the sub lords support list is so small is because they're not even truly playable. The playable lords also get paltry support lists if you bring them to part 3 via paralogue only, this is essentially the state that the sub lords are permanently in. When you start part 3 you even see them behind the 4 playable ones with their backs turned, and theres no way to make them face forward (for the main lords you make them face forward by doing their route). It's ALSO the reason why none of them have support with Eshmel, because the 4 main lords don't unlock the Eshmel support convo unless you finish their route. In other words, the game is currently coded in such a way that there are still flags for route completion for the 4 sub lords despite the fact that their routes don't exist. So to everyone's immense shock because they have absolutely never done this before, IS didn't rework the game to make the sub lords fit in more naturally and instead decided to release the game in a LITERAL unfinished state. It actually makes more sense now why they haven't announced the inevitable dlc yet, because they knew they'd be flamed for using it to just finish the game instead of adding new content. All they had to do was make the sub lords recruitable in part 1 and give them their full support lists but I guess they couldn't even do the bare minimum? I'm also now realizing that this is the reason why Gaitz is only recruitable by doing a paralogue that's only available for a single day on one route. Because the game still assumes that you can easily get him by just doing Bertrand's non-existent route.
>>581763936Anyone know?
>>581764437you recruit them during the war arc
>>581764320I wish they didn't cut the Felix and Annette betrayal sequence. Feels like even just the anxiety that they could leave Dimitri's side would have sold it to the player just how unhinged Dimitri is and how he is straining everyone's relationships.I do appreciate the slightly chiller and more respectful relationship Felix has with him in Three Hopes, though.
>>581764239Oh that's nice. Anatolia's a real one.
>>581764320Felix doesn't do anything lol. He just bitches to Byleth but will ultimately just go along with whatever Dimitri does
>>581764592I know that. I’m just wondering if I’ve had to have done anything by now. I didn’t do any character side quest that wasn’t a generic NPC.
Why does dimitri hate rats?
>>581764187>this part might be abysmal dogshit but the devs were nice enough to let you skip it so it doesn't count
Kusokihara succesfully raped the SRPG out of FE and all of you praised him for it and let it happen for 10 years
her spell list
>>581764457My gay lizard skinwalker can't possibly be this cute.
Is this the perfect FW reaction image to use?
>>581763703SchizoMitri isn't that much of a net negative at that moment though because he only boars>invaders>banditsMeanwhile Leda has a melty upon seeing a smiling child. Boarmitri cries when he kills young bandits.
>>581764559Yes thank you for reminding me how every 3H route is poorly written and falls apart without Byleth
>>581764585Yeah, it is very clear that they have SOMETHING in mind for the sublords. Likely not full routes, but they are definitely a DLC/patch update that will grant them a fuller status and no longer be a "Limited Capacity" recruit.Kind of insane they pulled that shit, really. Octopath Traveller fucking BROKE their brains to think they could even attempt to make 8 full stories.Betrand has a random-ass rage install moment in a spectated match that I don't think any route explains/
should i make cai a wizard and does peter ever not suck ass
>axes are dogshit yet again
>>581764670The guides say that you need to do Creek’s sidequest during Part 1 to be able to recruit them in Part 2
>>581764670You need to do Creek's sidequest in part 1, then beat him in chapter 2 of part 2 and he'll join you. To recruit Nathan you need to beat him using Creek in the next chapter
>>581764457Honestly we should have known. The sole fact they felt confident enough to give us a lazy eyed character as a main rather than some vtuber adonis who relied solely on his looks to be popular was a good hint some solid writing was in store.
>>581764121We paying for support endings now? Lol.
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>>581764371>LedaConfirmed bisexual>BuccarAsexual, shows no interest in any suitors in his ending>SiroccoThe straightest man in the game, to a fault>MuLesbian (unless the Peter support is romantic), interesting that the twittard didn't call her as such when she's the only one that fits>OlympiaPines for Siroccock, straight up turns down Leda and gets mad when she asks to be her gf>GuzranOne of tue many heterosexual flirts in this gameIt baffles me to no end how confident these "people" are spewing such blatant misinfo and headcanons as if it was absolute irrefutable fact.
>>581763579>Miracle >Riposte >Crit him back
>>581764772
Leda not just kills men but she MURDERS them
>>581764585I think the worst part is realizing that all the big DLC will do for this game is just Part 1 even longer when it's already too long and pointless at the end of the day. I would only accept it if that DLC massively changed how Part 1 played out.
>>581764830Cai gets a magic ornius class.>peterowari da......
>>581764802>the protagonist has reason to exist instead of just being a bird fucking about for 2/3rds of the gameyes?
>>581764585Yeah this is the most unfinished state a Fire Emblem title has ever released in.Like you said it doesn't feel like they reworked the game at all to account for the sublords being removed, they just disabled themAll the story that is blatantly missing is probably because of this too. At least in part 1 anyway, part 2 is so extremely lackluster that I don't think you can blame that on the sublords alone
>>581764856>>581764845I didn’t do that. Apparently it’s not even found in cai’s route.
>>581764960>magic ornius classSeriously? I gotta start training magic with him asap.
>>581764830I might make Peter my dancer at this point.
>>581764725an entire genre raped out of existence just so submentals can have yet another yap fest chore simulator D-tier story
>>581764626>changed goalpost from everyone nods along to felix doesn't do anythingGuess I won. >>581764596Yeah it's a shame. The narrative still holds itself together thankfully but it would no doubt have been a kino sequence.
>>581764802I get that you want to be a contrarian, but it's kinda a retarded point unless you don't want the MC to have any relevance to the story
>>581764830>Wizard CaiPossible. The Caladrius and Troubadour classes are good options, and his default Orchicaldia Master Class also have magic. Biggest issue is that he really wants lances thanks to getting the Star Spear.>PeterNo......Inyoni and Peppe are just way better archers.
>>581763964>there wouldn't be anything to recover of Solel's body to make Eshmel beyond the Shining SpearHis heart survived which was the important part>but Eshmel appears to be Eshmel, something entirely foreign to everything.Eshmel is explicitly said to be partly responsible for what happened to the world and every boss character in part 3 with some relation to Solel recognizes Eshmel and starts going on about how it's impossible he's alive. That's not to mention all the times in part 1 where a character meets Solel for the first time and says that something about him is familiar because they've previously encountered Eshmel.
Peter status?
>mangs is spiraling into depression over act 3
>>581764279You are aware that chinatsu did one of the hololive dudes right?
>>581764978His reason for existing is stupid
Speaking of ornius is it just me or are they goated? Love this class, it's like cavalery but good
>>581764725And I'd let him do it again if it outsells 3H.
Honestly if the game was divided into acts it would flow better. Have an avatar meet Cai on the way to Dagsion, then follow Dietrich, then Leda and finally Theodora for part 1, and then goes with a second set of lords for part 2.
:D
>>581764830>does peter ever not suck ass>>>expecting anything good to happen to Peter
>>581763986Please continue the [prostate] abuse after marriage.
Sex with Nuzzuo
>>581765184Plapping Tialla and Ultand
>>581763964Nope, aurora seems eshmel and comments "I feel like I've known you for a long long time"
>>581764457I think he's kinda cute in his own unique way
>>581764774The problem is that Dimitri left his kingdom without a leader for 5 years anon. And even when he comes back he still doesn't give a shit about his revenge. Soldiers can see that even if they still will themselves into following him. The worst part is not what he does but what he doesn't.
>>581765243>actsMore like ACKKKS
>>581765185Even leaving the gameplay aside part 3 just looks so boring man. Every map is red and purple. Every map uses the red music. Zombies. Fortuna delivers another unnatural lore dump for no reason. Another gate popped up.This is supposed to be the exciting climax of the game!
Please come back to us Engage
>speedwing discovering Inioni's support list
>>581765369Maybe Eshmel is the one who doesnt want to get back with Yu Phas
>>581764772Me every time jester dodges
>>581764457He's not nearly the ugliest character in the series, even if I put aside my extreme bais. Someone like Izuka or Solon is way uglier.
If this game sells well its actually the death of Fire Emblem. When did we become Normgroid Emblem exactly?
>completley forgot about the other girls after seeing timeskip Inyoni, timeskip Loretta, and timeskip Sterling Woman
>>581764457Nasty faggot
>watching streams>It's mostly all miasma slopIs it really this repetitive and tedious?
this midboss has a unique personal.
I wonder the sheer amount of cut content people would find if this game got datamined.
>>581765413*the same music
>>581762195Reply here >>581765261 since you goobers bake too early
>>581765476I don't think this game is breaking the current trend of Switch 2 entries being viewed as some of the worst in their respective franchises. The word of mouth is only going to get worse.
making the Avatar the one responsible for the fucked state of the world and having to actually fix it is inspired. Figures they would ignore the concept to go back to gimmick character retardation.
>>581765185Hes fucking crying on stream lmao>im in disbelief, im not mad
>>581765476Do normgroids even like Gaiden? The only ones that do are contrarians that somehow think Alm and Celica are good.
>>581765413OHHH NONONONONO
>>581765062I'm 80% sure that I did do Creek's quest in Cai's route.
>>581762903Pipi>but he's a guyPipi
>>581764187KYS
>>581765616What is the nature of a better man
>>581760441So these idiots made the Solel storyline already then pick him as the avatar and didn't think it was a good idea to pick back up Orchel route as one of the main 4? The resurrection of Dagda, the death of Solel, and the death of Iliana unimportant I guess. These guys are idiots.
>>581765185>I've seen my fair share of dogshit maps in my time, but this truly takes the cake for one of the most bullshit maps I have ever seenoof
>>581765624The final map of all time
>>581764592Lmao I’m so fucked I didn’t even see any exclusive quest with creek on cai’s route and now I’m out 2 units that would’ve filled the gap AHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>581765616If only they had a bigger role, like actually going back in time and guiding everyone to a better conclusion instead of throwing them time altering sand and then fucking off.
>>581765243See the issue here is that Leda has no reason to exist in the narrative. Dietrich's right behind her on that front, but Leda's story has nothing to do with anything else going on - which would be fine if FW was interested in telling individual stories, but the idea is all the routes are meant to combine into one big picture.
So it's a prequel
>armor units and armor-focused characters tend to have tons of +build>but said characters always have 2 speed so even if they had 9999 build it wouldn't matter at allWHY DO THEY ALWAYS DO THIS WITH ARMORSEVERY SINGLE FE GAME
>>581765350In his mind maybe. Nothing good ever happens to Peter
>>581765723Please understand, we needed a whole route of Leda having a woman moment. It's essential for the plot.
>>581765624This is genuinely some bad romhack shit.
>>581765295I'm going to assume the reason he has all of one support is that he was meant to be a recruit on Orchel's route. Kiroc on Talimun's might have been the same.
I hate DLCs with a passion, almost all of them fall flat and don't include what you wantWhen the DLC comes out next year, it won't include any updates for the sublords or any QoL updates besides some free BOOTS or some stupid itemIt will probably just focus on one of the other gods in the Dagda pantheon, like wow here's a new god that was previously unknown with a brand new set of characters that are also half-baked with 2 supports
How did this faggot score a cute godussy?
>>581765623This is Gaiden wearing 3H's skin so IS might finally succeed after over 30 years at making Gaiden a hit.
>>581765616funny that even this guy had dreadsyet nobody hates him
So is the apocalypse in a fixed timeline or not? What if dlc is too save those who died offscreen
>>581765842You didn't level as a birdman till 20? Smh
Dante, Alexandra, Ninae, and Yu Phas deserved to be in a better game
Gonna fuck the evil out of of Maria.
lmao
>>581765793I think they ditched the routes structure then we would have had a game with a easier road map. Start with Cai for Part 1, and then Theodora for Part 2 and then finally what we got for Part 3. Dietrich could have just been a battle autist that gets recruited at some point and Leda could have been an acting antagonist until things get cleared up with her.The multiple parallel routes thing just doesn't work and they admitted it doesn't work because they had to throw in Eshmel to try and link them all together.
this game is aping Oblivion
>>581766050What better game?
>>581765793>which would be fine if FW was interested in telling individual stories, but the idea is all the routes are meant to combine into one big pictureWhich is funny because Octopath 1 and 2 are 8 individual stories. Octopath 0 which has interconnected stories USES AN AVATAR.
I don't think I can take this setting seriously man. Sothis pulled her own Day of Lavos (Day of Sothis?) and we are supposed to pretend she's a good guy, a reasonable loving god we should all worship. This is actual clownshit>b-b-but le humans fired firstThis is the equivalent of a little kid throwing a pebble at you and you breaking all his limbs in retaliation and leaving him permanently crippled so he can never throw a pebble again
Cut Leda route and then add Orchel route back in would’ve made the story better.
>>581765476We gonna see first week sales in a few days.
>>581765624DARK DEITY BROS
>>581765997Agarthan propaganda to dilute the gods bloodlines
I love Ninae!
>>581765369Again, they are red herrings. There is SOME kind of connection between Solel and Eshmel, and even I thought about it. But unless Sothis saying that the "years have been long" was because she have no concept of time, it wouldn't make sense as Solel died in 1450, the same year Eshmel was born. The Heart Core argument doesn't make sense either, as Hong Hua and Zenon both show you can have a Heart Core of another planted in or used as a catalyst and you wouldn't get any of their personality. Hong Hua's husband isn't Hong Hua nor she shows signs that she is 2 people. And Solel doesn't have a Heart Core anyway and its implied his body was just chucked into Dagda's Cauldron (what else would they do with it?).Basically, it is clear the game WANTS you to think Eshmel = Solel, but there's as much evidence contradicting it as going for it. The fact they never say it outright is a good indicator it is something Kuskakhira want to keep to his chest for the future, like whatever the fuck Shez/Arval/Epimendes was supposed to be, or Zahras as a location.
Having a family BBQ with my daughter and grandson!
ONE SUPPORTI DON'T KNOW WHYIT DOESN'T EVEN MATTER HOW HARD I TRYKEEP THAT IN MINDI RECRUITED THIS GUYTO MAKE FRIENDS IN DUE TIME
>>58176613610 billions is ludicrous, sothis is genuinely pure evil, no wonder she forgives her genocidal children.
BrosThis game is pretty fun
>>581766136So did sothis cause the apocalypse?
>Feed a bird>It dicks you 5 years laterWhat did they mean by this?
>>581764117Still cucked, with 0 platonic supports while even the omega autists like Dietrich are breeding.
so what do they do with the souls of dead people considering that it was Balor's job to recycle them and he is kinda not in the state to do his job ?
>>581766304>>It dicks you 5 years laterif only
isnt cai unique route mecahnic the best one?I'm giving my mount units +30% more growth and bunch of stats for maxing out bond + special ability bonus like +2 mov, canto etcwtf does leda theodora and dietric get to beat this
>>581766136As an ancap, she didnt go far enough
>>581766304AHJAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAno he doesn't.
So how does 3h happen after the events of FW? Do they travel to the future to rid the evil? What happens in the present?
>>581766285She was just taking a stroll :)
>>581766254Many niggas are saying this
>>581766226*sister and nephew
>>581766136>poke a sleeping bear with a stick>get mauled to death because it instinctively attacks you
>>581766136Sothis is more on the neutral side. Just don’t piss her off.
>>581766226Is it incest if they fuck?
So uh when does Leda get good? She's getting more and more bitchy? She's yelling at poor Orchel.
>>581766439Battalions, a song buffs (how does +7 def/res to your entire team sound?), Dietrich route just gets HIM
>>581764585Preserving this post for later.
way less interesting than cai's part 1 ch 12. just mowing units down a straight path.
You all hated Fabio when he was first shown for being ugly. Now you all love him.
>>581766226Eshmel should slap that bitch
Mu is a faggot
>>581766618>poor Orchel100% deserved, nasty whore.
Need a fates remaster for the Switch 2, and absolutely no DEI additions.
>>581766548based niggas?
>>581762903
>>581766536I swear someone in 3H had a hat like xenon was wearing
When people hit part 3 they're going to really sour on this game huh?
>>581766672His homosexuality won us over.
>>581766136>NOOOO DON'T DEFEND YOURSELFEdeltard cope
>>581766735Not when it comes to PETER though
>>581766753Many are saying this
>>581766803Having to play an actual strategy game in your strategy game will just be too much for people to handle, I'm afraid...
>>581766803Tellius and Kaga's biggest fans haven't even gotten past the start menu of those games so I doubt it
so uh, is there really no romance in this game? that's the main reason I play this series
>>581766846Peter is such a chad. His dick turning lesbians straight. I can't believe Tialla doesn't want that chad
>>581766618Heartbreaking: worst person you know just made a great point
>>581766226Return the karma fuck cai
Is anyone here (or anywhere, really) actually going for the full 4 routes clear?
>>581764830I just started, but gave my Peter an iron bow, and he seems pretty fine so far.But everyone is lacking in Speed. Only Guzran is doubling.
>>581766803Like not even the timeskip design stuff saves it. Ignoring the shitty maps, the story isn't anything but Fortuna plot dumps, old villains (most of them killed offscreened) and random lore characters back as ghosts to fight, and no real character moments FOR the timeskipped characters. Just their stock line if they happen to be in a cutscene or not.
>>581766981Eshmel can S rank every one but some are platonic. We're still trying to discover who is
>>581767038Faz Faz on YT has all 4 routes completed
>>581762238His nose poking my clit while he eats me out!
When does potential girl get good?
Mangs is losing his mind...And it's funny because he liked part 3 at first, guess that didn't last long
>>581765932Man. The Orchel dlc will save Nuzzuo
>>581766002Even social media is shitting on the Gaiden aspects right now
Feels like FW takes 30 hours or more to finish
>I'm priceless to you, Ursula?>I sure hope so. I pay your salary!
>>581767038I amloli theo returns to make you feel sad for the dude with the snake tongue
>It was made to make you hate fire emblem>It's the biggest piece of dogshit I ever playedLooks like streamers are liking chapter 3 maps :)
I like engage but trying to say it does a good job as an anniversary game because it shoved in characters from the previous games with no real substance and made their skill sets based on heroes shit is fucking retarded. Hell the biggest problem with engage is that it's not an anniversary game for fire emblem, it's a fucking heroes spin off game, it's why it's shitty skill system sucks so much, they made it the exact same grindfest the gacha game has even with the dlc veronica giving you a boost to it. Atleast they acknowledged micaiah as the real mc of radiant dawn though, would be nice if they did the same with seliph since his dad sucks but people who never played 4 love sigurd for some reason.
>>581767253Cute blackface babbies
>>581767230No lol
>>581767230This is like saying Sothis killed 10 people or more.
It is funny how bad this game is. It is unbelievable. It is worse than even the biggest haters claimed it would be.
>>581766672Not me, I liked him since his reveal and it's only grown stronger since.
rizzler strikes again
Shitposting aside, what do you see the consensus of this game settling at in a couple of months?
An Echoes superfan won with FW
>>581767635Yeah, his name is Kusakihara.
>>581767620Black sheep.
>>581767276>emblem FEH skillsetsWeird narrative I see now because I remember prerelease Engage when people were loving and pointing out all the cool Emblem references to their original games. None of the Heroes moveset shit. Like one of Emblem Ike's weapons being a Hammer because of the Hammer strat/meme you can use on Black Knight. Celica's warping being a nod to Gaiden witches. Leif's weapon changing mechanic because he's one of two Master Knights in FE4, etc.
Didn’t play echoes why is Celicas personality so bad
>>581767620The only opinion that should matter to you is your own
I hate to say this but FE shadows is a better game than FW
>>581767620cucksmelled
>>581767620>Okay it might be literally unfinished but it was still better than engage right guys?
>>581767716Naive to a fault
>>581767620Dietrich/Fabio fujos will survive, but otherwise there's not much worth discussing or getting fannish over once you've seen how Part 3 ends.
>>581767714Leif's stuff was also a nod to FE4 AI automatically changing out weapons too depending on what a unit got attacked with, right?
>>581767769we love Kurt and her game here
>>581765274Of course.
>>581767620Mostly forgotten but still made fun of, mostly by Engagefags who still need a punching bag because they are mad people still make fun of them and they thought FW's existence would draw abuse away from them.
>>581765616>making the Avatar the one responsible for the fucked state of the world and having to actually fix it is inspired.Okay but enough about Awakening
>>581767620Utter bafflement at Eshmel as a protagonist.Acknowledgement that the story is missing large parts.Fairly positive otherwise.
>>581767716ntr heroine tier naive, specifically in the remake mind you.
>>581762971Lots of cuckoldry and bloat
>>581767620Metaphor 2.0
People acted shocked that some characters get different endings if you do certain quests/paralogues, but this literally already was a thing in 3H given you had different lines in supports depending on if you did a certain paralogue/chapter/other support, or how Mercedes got a unique CG scene in AM if you did her paralogue, or how Dedue literally isn't even available in the timeskip unless you do his paralogue in Part 1
>>581764585You can probably count with your fingers the number of games that released in a blatantly unfinished state and went on to be beloved anywayThen again cd projekt red successfully managed to gaslight everyone in the end with cyberpunk 2077, maybe ISIS will manage to get through to 3Hfags anyway
>>581767620Probably the worst Fire Emblem game ever made. This game is the Starfield of Fire Emblem.
>>581768094There are 9 paralogues "only"One for each lord + anna
>>581764909>Confirmed bisexualShe isn't tho. Her interest is only directed to men so far.
>>581767253So reverse Edelgard and Dimitri
>>581768094tbf most of this is actually in AM, though most of the endings in CF are changed for the bulk of the characters and honestly I think alot of them being alot grimmer fit considering the circumstances CF ends up in
>>581768213Enough about engayge. Its dead already ffs
>>581766672I liked him since day 1 because I like old twinks.Turns out he's not a twink, but his face still looks like it so I settled for it.
>>581767620Realistically It's gonna be at 2 million sales in a few months and all the 3Hfags who were shitting on it will pretend it's the greatest thing ever
>>581768252even still, it's not like the concept of "some characters will get different endings/different dialogue" if you do a side thing is not new to the series.
>>581767951the evil dwagon puppetting (You) is not the same as (You) being the prick that fucked everything up yourself
>>581768361I will still shit on it myself.
>>581766156Anatolia would have been better in Leda's place. Orchel sucks.
>>581768240She hits on Esmerelda and Olympia. They turn her down, which has her coping with "J-Just kidding...haha......."
>"The only reason FW got 10/10 is because no on beat the game" Holy kek
>>581767710>>581767825>>581767938>>581768083>>581768213Where did you redditors come from
I liked her story up until the last bit. her route ends a month early and the resolution is a lame map. I liked her character, bona and tobias. bona ending up ridiculously op helped. about the same playtime as cai, 34 hours vs 27. did as much as I could and hoping I can do orchel's and anatolia's paralogues on another route since those are the only ones I've missed.
>>581768457Next you'll say Soleil was gay.
>>581768471That's a TRVKE if I've ever heard one I'm afraid
>Nemesis is a fraud that didn't even kill the real thingKWAB
>>581768471He sucks though so he might never beat the game
>>581764187Quality over quantity lmao cuck you can’t romance anyone with Eshamel fuck off you cuck. They will sell us cut content as dlc fuck off.
>>581764909Isn't Guzran one of the few who can have same-sex supports with Eshmel?
>>581768471I was missing you mangsfag
>>581768317>twink You don't know. The words that you are saying.
Does BUILD do anything? Or does it only work on some weapons and not all? Does it work on accessories?
>>581768471He's not wrong, but if even someone like him can come to that conclusion then this game is fucked.
I love Shamir
I wanna ask, is Benditz even playable? Many of the contestants outside the eight main teams are playable, especially Nathan and Creek being exclusive to Part 3, but no more word about Benditz.
>>581768547>Believing a sexual predator and rapistThis general has fallen.
>>581768520Tobias was op on my run, he just kept oneshotting everyone
>>581768558so Edelgard's war is for nothing since Sothis can just come back anytime?
>>581768240Yurifag here I also believe Leda is straight, she shows clear attraction to Siroco and Dietrich, maybe Mu is bisexual or gay.
This is one of the worst fucking RPGs ever made. This is FFVIII levels of "everything this game sets to accomplish doesn't work". How much did Nintendo pay the reviewers?
>>581768457I've seen the one with Olympia which is a joke. Not the one with Esmeralda tho? Unless you mean the part where she tells her she will pretty her up for Dietritch.
>>581768520Why did you dislike the end of her route, aside from the final map?
>>581768674Now you get power bottom shamir in fortunes weave!
>>581768520I didn't do any paralgues still.Do you need only beat the map to recruit them later? How this works?
>>581768594I said OLD twinks. I thought he was gonna be a thin guy, but he's not.
>>581768609It does the same thing it does in every game, reduces the weight penalty of weapons (and accessories in this game's case) by the amount listed. If you're holding a sword with 8 weight and an accessory with 4 weight and you have 10 BLD, you lose -2 speed.
>it's ok when 3H released unfinished and had to shit out a bunch of DLC and updates
You know a game really is bad when people on 4chan keep switching up who they wanna say are retards for not liking it. First it was coping only people here hated it, then only twitter hated it, now only redditors hate it. If everyone thinks it sucks maybe it just sucks, maybe there is no boogeyman and the game is just bad. Did people act like this with echoes too? Unrelated, but why are their retards who want a censored treehouse butchered version of fe4, do you really think anything good would come from an fe4 remake?
>>581768471I mean no joke, he might be right hereA fuckton of reviewers praised the writing of this game and I just don't see how anyone could pretend the writing of this game doesn't have huge flaws, let alone praise it, if they got past part 1
>>581768741FE characters can only be entirely gay but not lesbians. Mu's case it could be a case of extreme larping or admiration. We haven't seen her paired endings yet
>>581768731It's worse than that because her simulacrum is needed to tard wrangle her main body otherwise her self preservation instincts would go off if she's ever threatened and destroy the world. CF is basically a doomed timeline if humans ever advance to the point where they're able to start producing nukes again.
>>581766136A mere 10 billion lives gone
>>581768754They're a japanese company, and capitulated to journalists by making the cast brown.They rake eastern devs through the coals for not obeying them, so now they're being rewarded for kneeling.
>finally, fabio, we killed the wretched sothis....>solon, that was her little toe that nemesis killed
>>581768701You can grab him but he needs minimum 7 renown from all lords, I believe.
>>581768896Heather?
>>581768896> peter/mu ending> peter pulls an alois and finds a nice village girl for her to marry
>>581768864Wanna know what game released finished and only got better with DLC?
>>581768471This guy is shit at FE. He had to use the DLC rings because Engage hard mode was raping him
>>581768763it gets cut short and the endgame map was pathetic.
>>581765520he shows up in one of the endgame maps as an npc who joins if he lives
>Leda is only interested in romance as a manipulation tactic>Olympia is obsessed with Sirocco>Mu is lezzing it up>Tialla is for Cai>so is Ultand>Ninae loves Creda?>Esmeralda love Sweetie>Mikaela has an ex-husband>Fianna and Ursula love Talimun>Ludia is lewd for Seteth>Theodora has a thing for Cai for is otherwise disinterested in romance>Maria fucked half the continent>not even going to explain OrchelIs that the whole of it?
>>581768895It's a sad and known fact that most reviewers really only judge long games like this on their first 30 hours or so. I wouldn't be shocked if most of the reviewers finished maybe 1 or 2 part 1s and decided that was good enough to write a review.
>>581768731it further proves crimson flower world is a doomed timeline and even further shows that IS views it as non-canon
>>581768930unfortunately his personal needs him to be a charioteer forever
>>581768778That's pretty fucking gay not gonna lieI still need to read Ios supports. Hopefully they're at least halfway decent considering he has fucking 5 conversations total.
>>581768998Sexo with Marni
>>581768471BASED Mangs with the TRVKE
>>581768864BroThey removed half the routes without changing anything else to account for itAnd parts 2 and 3 are literal hackjobsThis is a whole different level of being unfinished
what class is sirocco good at for endgame ? he seems pretty versatile
>>581768615>if even someone like him can come to that conclusionWhat did you mean by this? He's far from a FE shill if that's the implication
>>581768558So how does that work with Rhea? Does she just think that version of Sothis is her mother?
>>581768998My wife in the bottom middleYou know I think 3 Shamir clones is enough, Fortunes Weave didn't need oneOr maybe it's one per universe and that's why FW didn't have oneSothisverse has ShamirTokyo has KiriaElyos has NelSo the next game set in a brand new world(please don't make a fucking 3rd Sothisverse game) will have a proper Shamir clone
>>581769069Peter is fucking Ultand
Oh god how many same maps are there
a question that will surely be answered>>581769336having done two routes, surprisingly not many. if I can give this game credit, the part 1's are the opposite of white clouds.
>>581768998Bottom looks like troons
>>581769136>Aurora pfp>Edelgard fanOf course
>>581769336Every time I've gotten a quest, I get one of two plains maps. About 10 skirmishes. I recently got a third map with a river.
I'm gonna emulate Engage instead of buying FW...
>>581768930Okay, I'm just asking if he's playable. Thanks.
>>581769336a shit ton
>>581769019This retard is very representative of the overall fanbas than. I remember people bitching about how hard engage "hard" was on release.
>>581768998the girls look hot
>>581769523Kill yourself for complaining about that anon answering your question and giving you additional helpful info.
>>581769296I assume the Founders/Sothis' children either knew, or picked up on the fact that there were smaller sothis' deployed to watch over them as her eyes and ears while she was sleeping somewhere. Tt makes sense that to some level Rhea would view that as her mother since in essence she basically was the only way Rhea could talk to her since nobody would know where the real Sothis is.
>>581769476Do you have experience?
>>581769616Retard.
I've been having fun skipping all the busy work
oh they're just straight up with his deal lol
>>581767769Shadows is goated
>it turns out everyone is either stupid, childish or malevolentgreat writer
>>581769838No it's not.
>mangs have a DSP meltymaybe the gameplay and maps are good actually
>>581769838Cute doggo
Hitting renown 10 and knowing I never have to use the world map again feels so good.
>>581769846Dagda is all three!
>>581769846So, like in real life!
How many fucking birds are there really? Holy fucking shit
>>581769885>way worse than 3HFodlanchads win again
There seems to be a lot more story to part 3 if all 4 lords are recruited
>>581769929>fat>old>ugly>bald>rapist>virileUH BASED
Mangs is ripping FW a new one hoooooly. Did he shit talk Engage this bad?
>>581770000Just like my Japanese doujins...
Shamir confirmed more popular than Lyn and Takumi
>>581769992No shit? Thank for stating something we already knew.
>>581768864This is even more unfinished then 3H.
>>581769564I was already saying thanks, though.On a different note, who even is Long? Despite supposedly being part of Anatolia's team, he is only a Guest character for one of Theodora's stages and disappears from the game after. He's not even shown with the rest of his team.
alright I'm sold, based murder hobo
Man I am all for hard gameplay but act 3 is just terribly designed
>>581769136This account can not be serious
>>581768558>>581769296It's just a lazy retcon>The "simulacrum" in Dagda is a different entity with her own name, appearance and personality who, while connected to Sothis, also talks about her like a separate existence>The "simulacrum" (lol) in Fodlan just looks and behaves as if she were Sothis herself. She is also just called SothisVery shameless and very retarded retcon
>preemptively parentzonedIt's never been more over
>there are missable story cutscenes in part 1how much shit do you think we'll literally never know about?https://x.com/simplynavii/status/2101821221415346466
>>581769846This is actually how my real life is too.
>>581770028No, the whole Engage playthrough was just him calling it cringe and tearing the story apart but he never outright raged at it like this.
I read the Zanado map has a reappearance?
>>581769616You can think of the Fodlan Sothis Avatar as the closest thing TO Sothis at that point. There is no Founder for Fodlan as that is what was ruling Fodlan. If that is just what Sothis was to Rhea, then there's not really anything that says she SHOULDN'T be Rhea's mother.It's still a strange as hell retcon, but it sort of neutrals out on how it changes Rhea's entire worldview. Very least, whatever Sothis she could ever hope to create has to be far less an abomination than the real Sothis.
>>581770151He got her blushing though
>>581770028Well he praises engages gameplay but everything else he shats on
>>581770086>He didn't spend 60 hours completing all 4 storylines
>meet Aswan >first thing she asks is to go to meet b b b c
I LOVE HOW I ASK GAMEPLAY QUESTIONS HERE AND END UP BEING IGNORED ALMOST LIKE 99% OF YOU RETARDS AREN'T PLAYING THE FUCKING GAME
>>581769296>>581769616Its pretty much a retcon, Sothis in Fodlan was the original progenitor, this is why Rhea stayed in Fodlan to be with her
>>581770156OH.THAT EXPLAINS RAKSHA'S LUST FOR HIM!WHY THE FUCK IS THIS OPTIONAL???
>>581770151It just makes the handling of Eshmel even more schizophrenic. Do they intend Eshmel to Solel or is Eshmel meant to be their own thing.
>>581769838this. when are they gonna add alear?
>>581770151This story is so retarded.
>>581770156Raksha is so fucking wet for him jesus
Sothis throne is at Fodlan meanwhile it’s some other space outside space time in FW
>>581769564He's not party of Anatolia's Heroic Games team. He's her mentor and teacher from her home town Kunlun and an important figure there. I don't know what happens to him yet, though.
>>581770156Why the hell is that optional?
>>581768558What a stupid fucking retcon, holy shit. Black Knight warp powder tier.
Instead of playing FW, I'm going to dick around with an AI prompt where (you) are bootleg-Alear and repopulate in the Somniel that's literally just a breeding zone. At the moment I have>bootleg Framme>bootleg Felicia>bootleg genderbent DimitriAnd then afterwards I'll play Splatoon Raiders instead, I want to level my Speed Tank to max.
>>581770258>Japan makes a game with diversity>first route is Cai>his dad is immediately put into jailWhat did Japan mean by this?
>this is a piece of shit garbage gameyour response?
>>581770441It's not a fucking retcon, holy shit. This was already implied in 3 Hopes.
>>581768558WOW GREAT JOB KUSOKIHARA YOU TOTALLY RUINED YOUR OWN SETTINGBRAVO
>>581770156The fact we have one save file and we might get more in a dlc in the event an error occurs is bad in hindsight
>>581770265Yeah the shitposters who are attempting to shit on FW are mad they don't even have a switch2.
>>581770532Believe all women. :]
>>581770416Wrong character, Benditz is the random charioteer. You are thinking of Long.
>>581770265My fabio, dietcoke, esmeralda and mikaela have been repeatedly surrounding the last ranged character on the map while they whale on the character with wooden weapons as I laugh psychotically
>>581770529Absent race mixing father, japan based as always
>>581770490>framme pregnant>hortensia pregnant>chloe pregnant>ivy pregnant>celine pregnant
>>581770532still better than Andaron Saga
Anyone follow Faerghast? What has he said about the game?
>>581770532He is not the target audience. I am.
>>581770591Based blast haver. I myself have just reached part 2 and I'm having a blast.
Hong Hua solo ending is pretty cute.
>>581770265Why would I want to play a game that’s more padded then 3H?
>>581770532me when i play the helheim chapter of andaron saga (i made the helheim chapter of andaron saga)
>>581770532if an eceleb said it it must be true
>>581768558>>581768731It also turns out that Sothis's true form is sleeping in Fódlan and that Fódlan Sothis was the one in charge of keeping her in check if she ever wakes up.
Three houses has 25 saveslots
>>581770156Well then, now the narrative that "daaaa it's unfinished this don't make sense" can be put to rest
>>581770532just got to act 3 and he's right
>>581770253Fuck that. I hate cai enough
>>581770618Yeah I replied to the wrong thing because I'm a tard. I meant >>581770071
>>581770265im not :)
Wait you can miss cutscenes? How? Where? I've been looking everywhere
>>581770693cucked yet again...
Engage's story makes me want to vomit. FW's story makes me want to laugh. There's a difference.
>>581770741Wait so Fodlan has both the real Sothis and one of Sothis' fragments?
nigga this game sucks
>>581770156why in God's green earth is this not a mandatory event
>>581770532Me when I play 3H
What kind of geographical locations are in the game like beaches?
>>581770265I'm waiting for my game to arrive. Meanwhile I'm just Zarconeposting.
>>581770265hope you like miasma and grind emblem
>expected hong hua to be a tragic character>see past hong hua>WAHAHA RAPE BANDIT KILL THE CHILDREN
>>581770872the difference is that for one you pretend to have standards but not the other one
>>581770796? No lol.The biggest offenders for the game being unfinished are parts 2 and 3, and the stuff that is clearly meant to happen in the removed sublord routes.The only thing that cutscene does is make Raksha falling in love with Dietrich less forced (this plotline ends up going nowhere btw)
>>581770796
FW is just more fuel to the fire that is this nightmare I cant wake up from.
>>581770956isnt she just edelgard and full of chudism
RISE FROM A THOUSAND YEARS AGOOOOOO
>>581770848The easiest things to miss are the spectator matches. They tend to give abridged versions of their respective fights from other routes. There's also several cutscenes and ideas you have to look around Dagsion to find.For example, after Orchel's mask break, Theodora can travel back to Yu Phas's temple to find her unmasked look.>>581770883Effectively. All Nabateans born of Sothis are Sothis's fragments. Some are just more Sothis than others.
>>581770265Bwo a lot of us are still in our first Part 1 playthrough, we aren't game reviewers that speedrun the game in 2-3 days.
You guys would hate this game even if it had Engage quality map gameplay.
>>581771003>still forcing this schizo fanfiction
>>581770156This scene actually helps somewhat explain why she starts crushing on Dietrich.Without it, it just looks like she's enamored with his looks like every other woman in Dagda...
>>581770956She's Chinese.
>>581771085Yes? It would still have a shit ton of unfun padding inbetween maps.
where is the engage apology form
we are reaching new lows
Why is Nintendo dead silently regarding FW? What if they just move on to another game without dlc.
>>581771196HERE YOU GO
>>581771139Why it is optional?!!
>>581770883Yeah, pretty much. I would guess that Fódlan Sothis is the main simulacrum out of the bunch.Also, Sothis's name came from a blind girl that Sothis befriended, and after she died she based her simulacrum on her.
>>581771085But I currently love this game.
I wanna see Kalla and Leda make out.
It gets worse Kiroc broshttps://www.instagram.com/reel/DdfrZtBgfYU/?stkn=MWNyZTFpNngwZDV3dA==
girl you aren't even tied to the post
>>581771105
>>581768558>Be Nemesis>Get tricked by moleniggas that use chatGPT to kill Sothis>Killed a clone of Sothis not the real one>Rhea kicks your ass who is weaker than Sothis What a fucking FRAUD
Are you sterling enough for her?
So does Raksha also die off screen between parts?I know Maria and Solel do.
Blind girl? Sothis name isn’t sothis?
>>581771235sorry for doubting you divine one
>>581769838SEX with fire emblem dogs
DIVINE ONE FUCK MY BROTHER HE CAN'T LIVE UNLESS YOU SODOMITE HIS ASS
>>581771370No, she's the penultimate boss in Part 3.
>>581771207What were the endgame titles for Engage like?
I don't get it. So is the lolibaba Sothis in 3H the real Sothis? Or just one of the aspects of her and the real one is still chilling somewhere?
>Aswan only has a C support with Leda and doesn't have supports with anyone elselmao, why even bother
Just look at that expression. Is she fixable?
>>581771412>cock so good it cures magic cancer
>>581771085Engage was fun because of spammy power ranger shit
>>581770707Not surprising to see parasocial simps around
>>581771421Oh thank god.>>581771409Oh thank dog.
I need to see all of the endings I need to see all of the endings I need to see all of the endings I need to see all of the endings I need to see all of the endings I need to see all of the endings I need to see all of the endings I need to see all of the endings I need to see all of the endings I need to see all of the endings I need to see all of the endings I need to see all of the endings I need to see all of the endings I need to see all of the endings I need to see all of the endings I need to see all of the endings
>>581771251FE games used to have a lot secrets and missable stuff. This is a return to form
>>581771453To sacrifice her
>>581771456The only cock she craves is from Dietrich who is also batshit insane so no
>>581768558>>581770741So what does this retcon do but diminish Nemesis, Byleth, Rhea, and even Edelgard completely and make the plot worse?
>>581771456She said that all Dietrich had to do was dick her down and she would stop.
>>581771561Dietrich is literally just medieval goku
>>581771452The lolibaba was a weakened version of the simulacrum that Nemesis killed. The real Sothis is the continent sized dragon living under the earth that is never supposed to wake up.
>>581771456Honestly? Maybe?But it needs breeding. Like, a LOT of breeding. She has to be eternally pregnant.And IS aren't based enough to do that with FW. Closest we got was Heroes.
>>581771494not surprising you dont understand that im not being kind
>>581771456Yeah but it would be more fun to fight her.
Sirocco is a fucking tank wtf?
>>581771568Shut the FUCK up
>>581771568An acceptable sacrifice to justify more sothislop in the future since now you can have sothis clones anywhere and everywhere
>>581771643He falls off hard after part 1, be warned.
>>581771434
>>581771456No. She cucked Esmeralda and Fabio and now will be cucked in turn because they won
what did he mean by this
How are Sofia, Catania and Dante as units? I'm definitely recruiting them even if they suck, but I just want to know.
>"People of Adrestia, now that we have killed the children of the Goddess, mankind is free!!!">"Hubert, it's come to my attention that "the goddess" is sleeping somewhere in Fodlan and if she awakens she will take control over all humanity. We must strike while she's sleeping and liberate ourselves. We were able to handle 3 children of the goddess, one should be a snap!!">Sothis gets woken up by Edelgard trying to fire dark magic balls and resets the world>"AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH THE GODDESS WAS REAL, FORGIVE ME MY TEACHER WHAT WAS I THINKING???"
What is this moe gap?
Cai and the gang are cuteMy man Peter has been blessed with strength grows
>>581771456>Dietrich bridal carries her to safetyShe was so close to kissing him
Act 3 ruined the game for mangs
The fuck is a moe gap
>>581768558>>581771332It's funny because edelfraud looks up to Nemesis
>>581768094>Mercedes got a unique CG scene in AM if you did her paralogueThe one where she’s crying over Jeritza dying?
Nydine seems really shitty as a unit.
>>581771368I'm literally Sterling
>>581771676But what does Fortuna being a Sothis instance and not just another Nabatean or some other creation of Sothis add?
>>581771825Dietrich, all you had to do was not be autistic for one night.
>mangs, the guy who couldnt even beat fire emblem sacred stones without grinding, is now dictating the quality of the game to this thread because he got filtered by act 3
>>581771452>>581771615The thing tho is that we saw adult sothis in the old history so this makes even less sense for her not being the progenitor
>>581771676Your sothis, I am sothis, he she and it's sothis, the poster above me is sothis the poser below me is sothis, is there anymore Sothises I should know about
>>581771825>>581771456I could have fixed her
>>581771804Sofia is ok, Catania is good, and Dante is bad.
I don't want to sound like a feminist retard but the way Kusakihara writes women is weird.They are either mighty mother figures or barely sentient retards (sometimes a combination) and they seem to always fall in love trivially at the plot's convenience.
Why the fuck did they cut her route when it was probably the most plot relevant?
>>581771821Is it just me or is the problem in Sothisverse that Fodlan turns humans retarded and Dagda turns dragons retarded>Dietrich leaves Fodlan and makes friends despite being an autist>Fabio leaves Fodlan and becomes less racist>White Egg Tribe isn't in Fodlan and aren't insane like Shambhala>meanwhile Adrestia became mole people puppet and Faerghus split off because moles gave Loog more dragon corpse weapons and he ran with it>meanwhile Rhea and Fodlan dragons are tame compared to Dagdan dragonsEdelgard's fucked her subjects are retarded regardless of the Church
>>581771301>who even was that?:'(
>>581771930She's good. Try playing the game instead of regurgitating e celebs.
>@grok we followed your advice and killed the sleeping dragon woman but now a planet-sized dragon erased the continent, what do we do now
'member when people thought Fates rev was the worst thing this series had to offer? look where we are now
>>581771456That's a crazy woman
>>581771825>>581771884This would've been so based if Dietrich wasn't such a battletard.
>>581771235BASEDO
Kusakihara was out for blood. He wanted to shit on 3H's lore that KT had a hand in writing about while also implementing cuckoldry, BMWF, and rape into fortunes weave
>>581771954I wonder if you’ll still be defending this game in a year
>>581772004Solel's execution and Iliana getting snuffed probably weren't important don't worry about it
>>581772056>remember when retards say random shit that was never real
>>581772004I don't know why they put Leda in over her? Iliana death and Solel death was probably in her route along with the payoff for Eshmel after rewriting the wrongs of their past life.
>>581772119lets be honest he'll defend it a year later just like he did with Engage, dude flip flops all the time.
>>581772056At least FW has units auto scaling their stats when they are recruited, Rev doesnt have that for different difficulties
>>581772016What should I do with her then? Her stats are pretty mediocre by the time I got her. I can see she has a lot of movement with her personal skill. But its not like theres rescue or anything to really take advantage of it. Might make her a flier or something but otherwise she seems meh.
>>581771568Except it doesn't do that. Sorry you're still mad about not having the game.
>>581772004Most likely for that sweet DLC money. If her route finally becomes available, there had better be heavy lore surrounding Yu Phas and a beatdown scene against that fraud Iliana.
>>581772119I wonder if you'll still be crying in a year.
>>581772056We had engay already so no one is surprised this time
>>581772193least obvious Engagefag falseflag
>>581771301One of the FEW lines he has, SKIPPED.
>>581772190Play the game. Thanks.
>>581771804Sofia's personal skill gives her +10 healing so she doesn't need a healing staff, which is nice, and she gets Physic as well so she's been doing great for me as a heal bot + occasional clean up. No idea about the other two
did blasthavers or doomsissies win
Majide got dex twice in a row, bros.THE ETERNAL is coming online.
>>581772004All of the sublords are more plot relevant.The only "relevant" main lord is Theodora, because Part 2 is all about her.But otherwise>Orchel is far closer to the drama than Cai is>Talimun does the important stuff Leda should have>Dietrich is fucking irrelevant, and gets stunted on by Anatolia>Bertrand is so relevant, that the "Theodora Show" segment still stars him
>>581772015>>581772015
@/feg/GPT, Have any new paired endings been released or are we still eating stale Hong nachos?
Arval is gonna shit his agarthan pants after learning about this. I can’t believe our beloved Christmas tree was a walking Nuke.
Mangs is based for shitting on the game live and will be based for shitting on it when he makes his review for his large audience. Look at all the fags going "the game is really fun I'm having such a blast BUT...!!!" The actual people paid to review it only playing the first few chapters and giving it a 10/10. People are way too nice towards dogshit games just because they have an anime aesthetic and gacha game reject waifus. The only original FE game fans will get for probably the rest of the decade (because FE will be stuck in remake hell after this) and it turned out to be shit, sad.
>>581772004I don't want to play as a cheater
>>581772025>@agartha you must send Myson and Cleobulus to the beach locations specified so that summer scramble can happen. Please be advised that Anacharsis also needs to be dispatched with sufficient beach costumes to outfit a party. This is the will of Vrita
I'm about to pull the trigger on buying a Switch 2 only because of this game
Mangs: "No fucking way does this game deserve $80, way worse than three houses"
>>581770156And in those precious seconds Lyrah envisioned a future of her ruining her sisters' plans and saving Dagda only so she could become Dietrich's devoted wife, and the loving mother of his children.
>>581772119I'll look forward to your apology when you finally have a switch 2
>Dietrich could have saved all of Dagda by dicking down a dragon woman.Is he to blame?
>>581772056>'member when people thought Fates rev was the worst thing this series had to offer?that was always just pretentious retards seething over all the waifu stuff in the game (Camilla in particular) and finding as many reasons as possible to pretend they had valid reasons to dislike it
>>581772240Doomsissies won so hard it wrapped around to them losing because FE is probably going to be put on ice for a decade after this mess.
>Fodlan dragons are flawed but generally decent people>Dagdan dragons are generally also decent if a bit too decadent, but Balor and Dagda drag the whole group down with their shitteryWhat were the Almyran dragons like?
>>581772056Hating on Rev is a pleb filter. It's just as good as Conquest. I honestly question people who say they liked Conquest but not Rev if they actually played Conquest
>>581772263So they did a blunder similar to 3h and engage
>>581772341I’ve already posted two pics of mine.
>>581772190You can see unit growths in the reclassing/class change tab if you press Zl, its really helpful when you want to see how unit growths shiftYou can also do it in the unit menu where you see growths when you go to stats and press zl
>>581772307Seething poorfagStill having a blast btw
Jappa unit tier list. Thoughts, comments, concerns?
>>581772312Same.
>>581772307I don't listen to thumb people.
The last good FE game was fates period
>>581772294We've seen Cai&Tialla, Dietrich&Eshmel and Dietrich&Esmeralda
>>581772056I think Marth should breed his sisterAlso FW taste so good when you don't got a bitch in ya ear saying it's nastyJust needs maddening so I either skip everything and go straight into hard fights or I have to minmax the chores
>>581772234Not an argument.
>we’ve reached the “if you don’t like it you’re poor” cope
They should’ve been an ending where Dietrich is able to save Raksha now she lost to Fabio and Esmeralda it’s over…..
It's such a huge shame that the switch 2 is not hacked.Imagine all the things we could have found datamining this thing, all the removed and unfinished content.
>>5817720563H came out right after Fates and it was worse.
>>581772240act 3 is a total doomsissie victory
>>581772495It saddens me you can’t get renown awards anymore, but the einherjars is cool along with generics
>>581772307'kah
>>581772547>doesn't even deny he's an engagie falseflagging
>>581771954>>581772173Just as I predicted>>581614761
Fortunes Weave is not Fire Emblem
>>581771686Engage won...
>>581772263It has to be intentional but I have to ask why did they choose the 4 most important route to cut and keep the 4 worst route? It can't just be dlc, as they have to make 4 routes which is 12 chapters each. No way they want that as dlc instead of just a cinder wolf standalone.
I knew she had this prf, but when you recruit her on other part 1s she doesn't have it.
>>581772646FW is Gaiden 2 so neither is Gaiden
Wow, Leda is a jerk to Mu in their A support. But Mu is too dumb to take offense
>>581772416>It's just as good as Conquest.i will give credit to Rev's better linear difficulty progression and not pigeonholing you as hard into specific builds and strategies to handle lategame, but come on now
>>581772387they don't exist, Almyrans just wanted to see what the world would look like without them!
The game is already infinitely better than 3H because the maps are actually interesting
>>581772643>you aren't allowed to change your opinion
>>581772194None of that will make up for her fucking Dagda.
>>581772743If only the game was only FE gameplay
The 13th and 14th emblem are cursed and humiliated . Whoever the 15th emblem is better watch out. Hell Heroes forging Bond stated Theodora could become an emblem herself further increasing it was both Cai and Theodora’s game
>>581772573>we've reachedAnon..They are saying this before the game was released and is an argument repeatedly used everyday in the genereal
>>581772631'nce 'rt
Hows the pvp in this game?
Since they joined me they should give that money back right? haha..
this game has way too many blacks and it ended up being one of the worse FEs, pottery
>>581772451Sirocco is way too low. His growths are very, very good and his personal is great. He's at least better than mediocre units like Ninae and Seteth
>>581772240How can you look at parts 2 and 3 and see anything other than a decisive DoomCHAD victory?
>>581772643hey I haven't been watching him for a over a decade to get his personality wrong now of all times, he'll make his big video talking about how much he hates it, but then once he gets to it for his gaunlet his next video on it will be talking about "FW is better than I remember"feel free to screencap this btw.
>>581772631rinky
Any paired endings or Eshmel pairings or are we still blue balled?
>>581772837How would he fare against true form Sothis?
>>581772732Ok I think Conquest is a bit better but Rev honestly isn't that far off.
>Part 3 has a different ending if you beat all of the routes
>>581772780I wish the game has multiple save files so I could boot up Dietrich and play the game without doing any dagsion side by side to tell you if it makes the game maddening tier or notI feel like it would because doing a,dungeom gives like 4 lvlups compared to actually fighting in the maps
>>581772643His whole chat fucking hates the game though so he was being a contrarian early on
>>581772637Crying lorelet
>>581772451Seteth is S.
>>581772307Many are saying this
>>581770416>>581770838Another DLC hook... If Long only really appears in Theodora's path, that ain't enough to talk about his fate, so he might get extra depth in Anatolia's DLC path with a huge possibility of him dying. My bet is on him not only being Sha Lan's father, but also the major sponsor of their team in general.
>>581772864eshmel got girl best friend'd
>>581772451>cucksmell>Syeah we already know nips are into NTR
>>581772918Called out Engagie
Childhood is worshipping the Church of SeirosAdulthood is realizing Claude is right and we should kill Rhea and live in a world without her.
>>581772424This is like if 3H starred four Claudes, or if Engage starred four Timerras.
what do the blastenjoyers think of act 3?
>>581772901Proofs?
3Hfags aren't FE fans so you can ignore their opinions btw.
>ultand literally gets kidnapped and raped by some creepy old guy calling her his bridejesus christ
>>581772517Dietrich&Eshmel Picture?
>>581772451havent heard anything about fianna
>>581772451>Guzran in Blol
>>581772864>>581771368Our hope
>>581772951>he thinks this is a story tierlist and not a gameplay tierlistdumb engagie...
>>581772596ALL YOU NEED TO SAVE RAKSHA IS YOUR CREDIT CARD NUMBER AND THE THREE DIGITS ON THE BACK, ESHMAEL. DO THIS AND RAKSHA WILL PROPOSE TO YOU**Terms and conditions not included*See mastercard and visa exclusions for details
>>581772989I could've had 4 of THESE?
>>581773025Those faggots are still cycling through part 1's menu
>>581772451>Ninae>AReally? This bitch hasn't gained speed in like 5 levels
>>581772056>member when a guy said some random retarded shit?
>>581773032Goliath isn't creepy or old, or a rapist. You take that back.
I haven't played Dark Deity, is it really comparable to FW?
>>581772938We need a list of characters who were off screen. No way they’ll be written off without purpose. They are clearly holding them hostage for a dlc campaign separate from fw
>>581772951Eshmel is absolutely an op avatar. Being able to spam a range aoe every turn is insane.
>>581772890Base doom? Probably not.Gorr would pull it off for sure.
>>581773119>DO THIS AND RAKSHA WILL PROPOSE TO DIETRICH*FTFY
>>581773039I don't have a picture but, just like chink Edelgard, it's platonic. They both travel around and constantly spar, with people speculating if they hate each other or if they're perfect partners, either way no romantic implications For comparison the Esmeralda one has Dietrich stay with her for a decade and gives her two children, though after that decade he presumably leaves her (or dies)
>>581772451Olympia in C... She's even one of the main lords teamembers.
>>581773231NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>581773032Mangs...
>
>>581773041Fianna has the best magic growths in the game so she's a privileged unit
Did the fanged ninja boys timeskip get posted yet?
>>581772332Mangs was afraid to say anything bad and get negative comments ,but part 3 is so shit it broke him
>>581770151My grandson...
>>581773246I heard Esmeralda single ending has her with five kids.
at this point people will say they think fortunes weave is a good game just to get replies, like retards do with dark souls 2
>>581772332>>581773323So can we talk about the video game instead of e celebs?
>>581772864
>>581773302/feg/ has always been pro Engage. It's only a few loud discord troons who hate it.
>>581773302We didnt kill shadows
>>581773371It is a good game though you indian
>>581770151So what happens to this world when everyone returns to the present
>>581773349I thought she just goes on to become a legendary fisherwoman (which actually cool in its own right)if true then daaamn
Remember FW is made by people who made EngageThey made FW bad on purpose to shit on already established 3H lore and sour everyone's opinion on it because they are salty Engage was shit, didn't sell and is hated by fans
>>581771568>>581768558Nemesis was already a fraudulent bitch who got his 'glory' from killing a sleeping Sothis, I don't really see how this makes him any worse when he was already at rock bottom.
>>581773302Only troons like engay. Look at the characters, everyone looks like a troon or a drag queen
It's fun
man I wish we got an FE4 remake
>>581773481Go back to /v/. You lost
>>581773569>more cuck emblem
>>581771301JUSTICE FOR KIROC
>>581773481>the level of cope has reached "its bad on purpose"
>>581773481>they made the game bad on purposereal words from real human beings
>>581773371fw is a good game now give me replies
>the only good characters are unironically the one who looked like they came from engage
>Esmeralda becomes a black single mother after Dietrich dies or goes to the store to buy cigarettesEsme...
Ninae feels too weak as Light Cavalry, what do
FORTUNES WEAVE IS WHAT NORMIES WANT FROM AN RPG CRY ABOUT IT CHUDS
>Mangs is shit talking FW>Says Engage had a cringe story but the maps and gameplay was goodWe didn't know how good we had it
>>581773231Really, I wouldn't mind that. Make it a questline involving specific actions in specific places with strict deadlines that must be handled before Dietrich fights Mars.
>>581773646My interest in him dropped after I saw his TS design removes the clown makeup.
>>581773635well since you asked for it...
>>581773646I'm gonna CLOWN
>>581772002I agree, the women are terribly written in this game.
>>581772263To be fair to Leda, she was about to do it near the end of her route after settling things with Bertrand until Talimun beat her to the punch.
Is this true?>pic related
>>581773669It isn't though, normies love supports, pairing and interacting with characters. 3H is the normiecore game. This is game for SoVfags.
>>581773725yeah the TS designs are a letdown
i put my lord in enemy range and win! im on normal/casual btw
>>581773669If the game wasn't half-baked I'd maybe agree, because the ideas are certainly there but it just feels like they fell on their face when executing this
I'll be real honest with you niggas. I don't care about the maps or gameplay that much.
>>581773787fucking kek
>>581770156i never saw this. wtf?
>Cai... I'm sorry but I'm actually pregnant with Peter's babyWow the dialogue in this game is crazy
There's just no reason for the game to be 30fps in 2026. Pure laziness.
>>581773875It's in chapter 8 of Dietrich's route like the Talimun scene after beating Majide it can be missed.
>>581773841The outfit is fun but what in the fuck is that hairstyle
>>581773828>Kusakihara tricked 3Hfags into buying Echoes 2It's quite hilarious.
>>581773787peter... jobbed...>>581770156so let me get this straight they had time to squeeze extra secret cutscenes in part 1, in-engine cutscenes of the main characters aura farming for all four routes, but not any more supports to get me to care about two thirds of the cast?
>>581773374why would you want to talk about FW? it's shit
>>581773725It's amazing how most TS designs are worse.
>>581773985petra lunch lady hairstyle
>>581773845Same but I'm on hard
>>581773912Who said this??
>>581773875I'll be honest it looks like it wasn't even suppose to be there. No marks on the map, nothing to tell you it exist. Just randomly run around Dagison on a specific day and find a tiny ass blue marker.
You guys like video games?
So the dlc is likely ALL four routes?
>>581774053fuck no but I have no other sources of dopamine in my life
>>581773979>>581774020Why are these scenes even missable?
>>581774047ah yes this is how you find out more about these riveting characters
>>581771456The entire plot would be solved if Dietrich just ran away with her.His murderboner is responsible for millions of lives lost
>>581774038Aurora. Peter finally got revenge for Cai claiming his mom's left tit.
>>581770532While I understand his frustration and agree with his criticism, he literally choose to play it in the most retarded fashion possible. It's as if he wants to hate the game.Unironically, the main problem with him is that he is old and a relic of a bygone era that was never good.
I love watching Leda on my screen getting her pussy wet from murdering people. I bet she's a fucking FREAK if you tell her what she wants to hear.
>>581773804Okay, so she almost wasn't irrelevant.Yippee.>>581772679It'll be a $40 dlc.
How do I cheese this
It's a generic-y trope, but "incomprehensible alien/godlike creature is able to bond with a human because the human is blind" is a cute trope but it's also silly to imagine that Sothis decided to make her own vessel look like her because she liked that little blind human.
>>581774164i think it's valid criticism that all the busywork in the game is rather mandatory to get to the actual game part.with that said ignoring it, then complaining about having trouble later on, isn't as understandable, you signed up for this.
>>581774234map design is my passion???
>>581774053only when mangs says i can
>>581770532>yeah
>>581773787IT JUST KEEPS HAPPENING
>>581774164What did he doAlso I want to have Mila's blessing to pump as many light haired pale babies into Silque as humanly possible
>>581774234Doomsissies told me this game would have bad maps
which one of you retards made this slop, i know this had to come from here or /v/.
>>581774234Use the one tile wide chokepoints.
Anons who played the game, what the fuck are support level numbers? It was always CBAS before, wtf.Please explain to me how support work in this game, especially for Eshmelly. Anons were saying he only had A and S supports? How's that possible if that's not shitposting?
>agartha is an acronym
>>581774323I'm sorry anon, it was ME
>>581774234>lolol game is too easy>bwos how do i win :(
>>581774323haha stelle from honkai star rail xD they're both so silly and gay!
>>581774234Cram your units into the top right and choke point them. Your healers and mages need to be behind your tank and spank units (ideally with high speed)
>>581774393Wow can't believe I missed that
>>581774356Basically they got rid of romance because they hated including an element in the game that gave chuds 5 minutes of happiness.
>>581770156Again, why the fuck is this a missable scene? I knew it was weird that Boazi never followed up in my playthrough. Also, why does Dietrich want to or have to rescue Lyrah's retarded ass if she's so strong? Everything surrounding her feels like shit that was written for a different version of Dietrich's character.
>>581774393We Gundam SEED now
>>581774283Decided to use only Eshmel and Esmeralda to tank the map.