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>/wowg/ guilds (cross-realm and cross-faction)
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https://catbox.moe/c/84g6yh
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I want too serve mummy sylvanas but orgrimmar is a mudhut ghetto shithole and stormwind feels like home so im forced too play alliance
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bros... why is he not denying it?
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>>581821791
Forever fags should be very afraid of that becoming "main wow".
Sounds ripe for additional monetization.
>we've added so much content for level 60's, let's add a character boost so more people can experience it
Ect, ect. The store would be coming in at light speed.
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>>581822148
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>>581822148
impregnate
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Here's one of these things.
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>/wowfg/ is now just endless spamming of a Skyborne version of nelfwifey with no discussion

The absolute poetic justice.
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>>581821267
don't click this shitty ai purple night elf cringe
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can i turn on/off my hero talent visual? i like my eyes glowing orange with holy light but it gets tiring after a while
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>>581822148
>>581822315
>dk
>no blood eyes
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>>581821791
you faggots thinking retail is going to die are so delusional. forever has absolutely zero competitive things going for it while retail has m+, raids, and pvp and we just saw how popular MDI, RWF, and AWC were at blizzcon so that shit ain't going nowhere. forever is for comfy/nostalgia fags while retail will keep all the collectors/competitive peeps
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>>581822707
>forever is for comfy/nostalgia fags
forever is made to keep the retail players subs during the offseason
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lol retail will be completely dead november 4th buddy
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>playing wow as a competivive game

you're just as delusional as arena pvpers
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>>581822884
And then it'll wake up again by November 17th.
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>>581822707
>two indirect seethe
kek bodied those freaks
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>>581822707
Retail is where draenei and elf women are so that's where I'll be.
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>>581822818
I heard that before about BFA when classic released.
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>>581822920
Fuck im good at clicking the right posts. >>581822818
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>>581822707
I don't get how wow is competitive. Are you talking about the competition between liquid and echo? Because those are the only ones competing. The rest just stand around
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>he uses tab targetting to reply posts
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I don't trust people who get bored of WoW and then go play another version of it.
Sounds like mental illness.
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>>581823135
People are not bored of wow, they're bored of retail slop.
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>>581822440
I love these things
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>>581822783
Retail is there because IT IS THE ORIGINAL WoW through everything. How hard is it for you people to understand that? 'retail' will never die and you're a goddamn sucker if you think it will. Retail isn't going anywhere. It's the actual World of Warcraft game. It's the game. It's the game people install when the play want to play WoW. Nobody after years of playing WoW will come back to make a character within some gamemode that has nothing to do with retail.
Retail will be here long after we're all dead.
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>>581823610
yes thats why forever is made for retail players so they can stay subbed during offseasons
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>>581822440
These things are pretty great.
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>>581823776
>offseasons
WoW players don't have 'offseasons'. Forever was make for suckers like you.
>inb4 paypig
nobody that plays WoW pays for anything, but you wouldn't know that because you're just a tourist
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>>581824115
>WoW players don't have 'offseasons'.
this is cope, most people quit after hitting their seasonal goals especially during bad seasons like this one
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>>581823816
>>581822440
ai making their torsos so thin should be a crime
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the retoilet is so dead only zoophiles/furtroons are left
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>>581824192
What part of 'tourist' didn't you understand? You can jump into any group and cal; them lifeless nerds but it won't change what I said. No amount of quirky dogfucking or monsterfucking or whatever will change anything because you're always be the outcast.
LURK MOAR
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>>581824547
Nobody but a furfag would post this.
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https://files.catbox.moe/ymrpuw.png
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The problem is that slow-paced experiences with intentional friction are currently in vogue in the gaming space while retail still wants to be a mid-2010s esports ranked queue simulator
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>>581821074
>mfw Forever killed retoilet WoW
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>>581822707
>MDI, RWF, and AWC
Aren't the competitors the same couple of dozen of people who have been participating for the last 10-20 years
Doesn't seem to be much new blood in the competitive scene
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>>581824956
>currently in vogue in the gaming space
Not really, right now people are playing gachas and friendslop while waiting for the next gta, there are 0 popular slow paced games with "friction" right now.
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Elfposters can't even remember to put 'previous' in OP. Why is that?
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>>581825034
I don't understand.
NO Arator.
NO Jimothy.
NO haranir.

How the fuck does Forever even have ONE player without these crucial elements?
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>>581824931
mucho bettero
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>mfw Retail killed foreskin WoW
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>>581824956
I'm sure a testing environment of hateful long time players will help that.
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>buffing a bunch of unused hero specs tomorrow
>accidentally buffed devourer's maze+ spec
lmao uh oh here we go again
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>>581822119
>we've added so much content for level 60's, let's add a character boost so more people can experience it
This will never happen because it's retail.
It happened to you because you're a retail player and therefore a poor sucker. You are used to being abused and think that Blizzard will do the same to their new upcoming cashcow.

It's obvious that repeating retail's mistakes will just result in people leaving and creating an empty ghost town, even faster than it happened with retail.

I mean this in the nicest way possible but you guys are just not a threat, your design philosophy is not a threat. Foreverfags are out there arguing about shit like aggro distance and some other minutia of vanilla design meanwhile you're out here trying to convince them that they will nuke their game with flying or mythic+. It just will never happen.

You will reply "lol just wait" but you'll be waiting a very, very long time. Retail is cooked.
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>>581824931
Excellent worg
That is what they were meant to look like
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>>581825308
>and think that Blizzard will do the same to their new upcoming cashcow.
Kinda sad you're coping this hard when you are already goyed with sky elves
>in before NO IT DOESNT COUNT I WOULD NEVER BUY ELVES!
You can larp as the epic internet wow historian but that's what people said when they announced the celestial stallion, you're irrelevant.

>You will reply "lol just wait"
Holy mother of denial, you're just going to cope and pretend nothing is happening? Sad.
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>>581825034
>>581825193
What does Arator think about the battle between retail and forever? Can anyone tell me what Arator feels about this so I can form an opinion?
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>>581825308
>baaaaaw muh retail
Forever was made to make money, and further monetization is only a matter of time. Idk why classic autists believe that classic+ content would be free.
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>>581825308
Damn wish I had access to this level of pure uncut hopium
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Retail is for the addicted whale audience who have already proven they will eat up $20 recolored transmog sets and $30 mounts like candy
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>>581825531
>you're le coping!!1
sky elves are a thousand times more warcraft-coded than Haranir or Dragqueer, so this is pretty funny to see posted. They are more or less just high elves and slightly changed and tied into existing older Warcraft lore, completely unlike the other two which are oc donut steel tumblrshit.

I can feel your impotent rage from your posts. You are very mad that you are no longer the main game. It's sad but it is what it is. Retail has been dogshit for 10 years, at least. You should be grateful you're even still getting any content updates at all considering how ass the game is. Thank your whale-samas next time you log in, retoilet.
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>Forever didn't even make it past beta before getting monetized
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$30 BLUE ELVES LMFAO

LITERALLY A FACTION NEUTRAL BELF RECOLOR

$30 OINK OINK
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>>581825812
>sky elves are a thousand times more warcraft-coded than Haranir or Dragqueer, so this is pretty funny to see posted.
Yes you're in denial right now.

>you're le mad
Very ironic. It's ok anon I know you're shitposting here because you're afraid of the /wowf/ posters confirming your fears.
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>>581825308
So when Forever launches and Stormwind and Orgrimmar are filled with the smurf elves what are you going to say?
>well that was just a one off, they won't add anymore what is effectively a store purchase
As we all know, Blizzard just doesn't want to make more money, they want to be generous. Same with their owners, MS.
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kek retail sissies seething hard
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>>581825650
>devs explicitly say there won't be a wow token and level boost for Forever
>this sad and pathetic fuck immediately starts screeching that the opposite will actually happen
I hope you realize this is both blatant cope and sour grapes lmao
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>>581825812
Lmao your seething

Yeah man it's "more or less" Warcraft styled haha yeah we're so back bros $30 belf recolor is NOT a cash grab haha forever is not a product in the capitalist space so it doesn't HAVE to make money ok??? Delulu
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>>581826012
>Blizz said "At this time no plans for x."
>They said the same thing for Classic
>It was added to classic
Kthxbye
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>>581825812
What the fuck are you saying retard. Sky elves are a $30 store purchase but that is okay because they "fit" the world?
I hope they sell you a Stormwind horse for $25 and surely you're okay with that because it fits thw world too.
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craptoilets are from a different dimension
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>>581825957
>retoiletroons will work themself up into an autistic fit arguing that this is somehow less Warcraft-coded than their rainbow plant trollelves or non-binary scaleshit oc's
lol
lmao
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>get btfo
>haha you guys are seething haha
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it's actually funnier that the shameless cash grab elf pandering race has way more effort put into differentiating themselves by faction compared to earthen and haranir who have absolutely nothing and are only tied to a faction because of gameplay mechanics
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>ForeverGOD making the entire general seethe
based
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>>581826182
>another sad, importent cope post
>posting store races and mounts
lol lmao even
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I don't care about forever trannies
Talk about hots
NOW
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>>581826436
Now this is a white woman I can get behind
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>7 million gold
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Its not junk....
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What is this obsession with 'new players' for retail? WoW has a stigma regardless, and has had one before most of you were born.
This is a long standing general, for a game older than most other generals. Stop talking about wanting to bang worgens to be unique. Stop saying 'space goats' stop doing the 'indie company' bit. Stop being a stupid fucking normal invasive faggot. So sick of all of you. You ruined this site. Yes, you, the ones reading this. Went as far as you could, you made it. Can't you just shut the fuck up and stop ruining everything? When is enough enough? Why can't you all just stop pretending to be retarded?
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>>581826182

Look at that Germanic ubermensch. Absolute kino.
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>>581827153
The plural of worgen is actually 'worgen', not 'worgens'. Just so you know for next time.
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>>581826915
Money sink for boosters. I wonder if this is a trap to send out a ban wave later. They started cracking down on them this season.
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>>581827531
Oh. my mistake.
What is this obsession with 'new players' for retail? WoW has a stigma regardless, and has had one before most of you were born.
This is a long standing general, for a game older than most other generals. Stop talking about wanting to bang worgen to be unique. Stop saying 'space goats' stop doing the 'indie company' bit. Stop being a stupid fucking normal invasive faggot. So sick of all of you. You ruined this site. Yes, you, the ones reading this. Went as far as you could, you made it. Can't you just shut the fuck up and stop ruining everything? When is enough enough? Why can't you all just stop pretending to be retarded?
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>>581827682
Nice work anon, I appreciate you taking my feedback on board
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>>581827682
>Stop talking about wanting to bang worgen
>Stop saying 'space goats'

We were here years before you were, you fucking tourist.
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>>581827153
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>freightrunenr's flask and the 700 raid trinkets
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Something's not quite right... an illusion! What are you hiding?!
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>>581827903
>>581828084
>>581828145
>ruining a game no longer satiates me. should i ruin a site?
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>world ending super-powered magical entities
>orc
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>>581828625
They just don't make them like they used to
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retoilet furjeet containment thread
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>>581827531
Based worg
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post elves
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>>581828625
>orc
>mogs all of them
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>>581829461
I may, but only if you post your prompt and model
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>>581821791
JAB was always right from the very beginning. Classic died, and Forever will, too.
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Forever has got everyone acting HISSSSSSterical!
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>>581829461
I'm going back to elf rogue next expansion for sure unless they add tinker. Rerolling another class was nice but I play rogue since vanilla.
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>>581828625
>orc
>look inside
>y'shaarj
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>>581829773
think sloppanon has been using NAI exclusively for quite a while now much like every other slopper
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What content is the best to level in as a new player? I hate dragonflight and would rather level in one of the old ones.
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>>581829864
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>>581830248
Anything but TBC or WOTLK
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I will say this about Wrath Remix, it will be a perfect time narratively to level a new Undead Paladin
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>>581830329
Surely they bring back the transmog from the Wrath pre event
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Would you rather kiss Peter Griffin or Stewie Griffin?
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Well 70-80 was pretty quick. Did the welcome back quest in arathi, two brewfest dungeons before and after daily reset and like three timewalking dungeons. XP buffs are insane. People in timewalking are wild though, complaining about tank pulling extra packs as though a few extra seconds in the dungeon was gonna kill them IRL lmao. I guess since I'm 80 I'll start the delve quests?
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>>581830460
probably? most people are waiting to see the black proto drake status or the hd frostmourne they added during bfa
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https://www.wowhead.com/news/astalor-and-talebound-inspiration-artemir-interview-on-midnight-eclipse-383022
>Hopefully we'll be able to see the Prey Magic and the red kit stick around longer than Midnight.
Mages are getting a new anguish spec
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>>581830248
I like MoP, WoD and Legion for leveling.
>>581831112
Oh man I was like two ez achievements away from the protos, no idea why my guild didn't get them but we were all kinda big noobs at the time.
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Once again my superiority has led to some controversy.
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>>581829909
Uhm... can you remove this image? It's a bit problematic. You see, in elf years Valeera is still underage -.^
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>>581831586
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>>581831749
Sorry bro but I don't have any other valeera pics to post.
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>>581831919
Here's one you can use
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>>581831919
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>>581831586
>>581831807
They need a remodel where the damn head is on top of their shoulders, man. Not in fucking front. There's no full set that looks good on these stupid cows except for their heritage mog. I gotta wear mogs with hats/sunglasses/no helmet to not look ridiculous and that limits me to summer beach outfits and casual clothes outfits.
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>>581829034
>FUCK THAT NIGGER THRALL
>I WOULD FUCKING DO IT ALL AGAIN
>FOR THE HORDE
>erases himself from the disneyficated wow

how did THAT one make it past the dev team?
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>>581832308
Could not agree more.
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RETOILETTO
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>>581831919
i got you
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Blizzard be like no our blood elf rogue protagonist can't be 1,000s of years old she has to be part of the extremely small minority of blood elf children so she can go on adventures with Human McDudeman as a 13 year old
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I want to play the original warcraft games, they just weren't really my style of game as a kid, I was super into diablo/2, but skipped over WC and SC (though I remember hanging out in the chats in the d2 lobbies with the players).
Is 1/2 worth playing, or should I just go to 3?
Rather, is the story of 1/2 condensed into 3? I mostly hear people say "1/2 are pretty old and it shows, start with 3" but I trust you retards more than normalfags so, second opinion won't hurt.
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>>581832589
I'm sure Varian held himself back.
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body type 3
it's body type 2 but flat
and 40% smaller
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>>581832706
The story of 1 and 2 are not condensed into 3 at all and if you want to know what they were about you have to play them. That being said WC1 barely has any story to speak of and the way you win missions is extremely janky and repetitive (you bait singular units back into your deathstack).
WC2 is better in all regards.
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>>581832308
female tauren have it a little better, but yeah it's pretty bad
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>>581832768
He 100% raped
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>>581832787
the ideal male body
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>>581832939
WC2 is better in all regards compared to WC1*
WC3 is a completely different experience and a banger of a game for lorefags.
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Vulpera Pirate Expansion when?
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>>581832589
>and bearmantle was there too i guess
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>>581833162
Fuck off back to the mogs and cheevos general
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>>581832939
>>581833141
much appreciated. I'll give 1 a shot and see how much I hate it lmao
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arguing with myself if i should return to rogue
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>>581826436
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>>581833517
Right meow they are meta tier, really fucking good.
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>>581833517
You should, will be very little competition. Play daggers and even less
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>>581833517
play tbc wrath or forever instead, where rogue is an actual class
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>>581833592
literally the same
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>>581833091
i feel like if they did that to the vulpera it'd die
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>chinamen are DDoSing wow servers again
for what purpose
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>>581834463
they heard NA is trying to force warlock meta and since it's over a month too late to reroll they're taking it all down
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>>581834950
based
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>>581834950
>force meta
M+ minmaxxers need killed.
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>>581825242
see...
you...
you like fucking get it, man
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Did you guys struggle with how your main should look? I can't decide, i wanna make a character to play classic and all of retail expansions with but i can't decide on a look.
I wanted to make the guy from the portrait in classic but then in retail those options look like shit, specially the long hair.

Maybe i should make my own custom adventurer and age him as the expansions go by but i hate inconsistent character looks.
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>literally all 3 specs of rogue are godtier in all content
>still no one playing them
lmao
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>>581834950
Another reason for classic+ to never ever add this shit into the game again
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>Meet some guy a while bacjk, become friends
>He starts hitting on me recently
>Not interested in men(or women for that matter)
>Tell him this, tell me he's cool about it
>gradually starts getting crabby with me, hostile
>Eventually stops talking to me
>lose a good friend because I didn't show interest in him
>he was a nice guy too
>Sometimes it sucks being a woman
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>>581834463
they are probably mad because they lost the mdi despite all the rigging
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>>581835620

YWNBAW
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>>581836014
lmao bodied that freak
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>>581831586
>>581832393
More tauren art
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>newfags replying to pasta
tale as old as time
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>vagueposting
you lose.
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I will pick priest
I will dps as smite spec
Healing is gay
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>>581835513
the class design is horrible
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>>581828625
the human and the orc mog the rest so effortlessly it's insane
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probably stupid question, what's the great vault item pool?
if I only do m+10s do my 3 myth-tier items come exclusively from dungeons?
does the raid loot come exclusively from the raid row or can it appear in the dungeon row?
I haven't done any raid at all, not even normal.
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>>581837038
the raid row will give you items from the boss you killed
the dungeon row will give you any item from any dungeon
the open world row is delve/prey items
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>>581830248
MoP is a bredy gud standalone experience. WoD, Legion, and BfA are all very cool to quest through. Shadowlands sucks but it has cool mogs that require you to jump through hoops so it might be worth getting set up in there. I would probably go with Legion because it's enjoyable and you get cool shit.
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So what is with this retail AH not showing the suffixes of green items?
Like "of the boar"?
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>>581837609
when you see the list of items you can see the affix if you cursor over the items
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>>581835513
I will play my sub rogue in solo content when winds of mysterious fortune is done
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>>581837767
like this? Still shows nothing
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>>581821791
Josh should hold off declaring things before the game actually gets released. FOMO’ers are refunding in droves after the 2-3 hours of luster wear off.
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>>581837976
Is that forever beta? Maybe that staff doesn't have any affixes because it's nilla.
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>>581835620
but you will never be one though?
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>>581838164
whoops I'm in the wrong thread
sorry
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FOREVER HYPE

GOODBYE RETAIL
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>>581821074
love wowg anons!!!
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>>581822653
Nope, heard they were adding something like that, somewhere around midnight but no confirmation yet.
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>>581837672
I do not like these tails because they have a habit of putting them somewhere they should NOT go
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>>581828625
The whole Argus to Sneedlands things was kinomatic but it was so dogshit explained in game and the expansion was also so dogshit everyone bumped down it together.
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Dance studio status?
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is it salvageable bros

i dont wanna press holy light and frostbolt 2000x i want them to save retail
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>>581821074
<BLT>-Illidan is recruiting players interested in mythic raiding! Mainly healers and dps. We are 8/8H 1/8M with explorers at 20%! Please add @froo on discord if you're interested -w-
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my favorite part of midnight is how they woked so hard they accidentally vindicated turalyon for trying to kill zul'jan
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>>581822641
At least it's not the ragnaros retard
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>>581840147
It was

Now? IDK man. midSHITE blows. TLT hype i guess. They can't fuck up Titan Robots in Northrend, right?
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>>581840526
>MFW defeating Ula'tek uncurses the island, giving the Amani more land and less reason to attack Quel'thalas
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>>581840526
Arator also directly leads to the failed assault on the Voidspire because he tattles on Turalyon to his mommy and she crashes out

The entire expansion is just Arator fucking up and making things worse and then other people fix his mistakes and then give him all the credit and praise. He's like the most supreme nepobaby in WoW history
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>>581840526
If he'd killed zul jan then the amani wouldnt have been friendly enough to work with the elves and beat the twilights blade, likely would have fallen to to void invasion and would have presented an unsecured flanking route allowing the devouring host to attack silvermoon from the gate and the sunwell at once. At very least it would have turned eversong into a war zone.

Instead Zul aman was the warzone and the twilights blade there was eradicated, securing silvermoons flank. This led to a resurgent amani tribe, but one that is less hostile and for once actually in a formal peace with Quel'Thalas.
Obviously Zul'jan being spared led to the whole coiled isle thing, but thats the Amani's problem, not silvermoons or the army of the lights. A peace made close to home prevented a war close to home and maybe have even sealed an alliance between truly ancient enemies. he cost being a civil conflict within the trolls which has certainly weakened the trolls some.

It is always adviseable to make friends rather than enemies.
Yes he was right about Zul'jans character, but killing him would have cost far more than paring him did.
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>>581841069
this whole "narrative campaign with literal whos" style of expansions is so rancid. Just be lazy and let some nerds do more self contained questlines for individual zones again IMO.
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>>581841069
I wish men were allowed to act like men in american videogames and not like schoolgirls
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so uhh
i'm 316 ilvl on my alt and i'm sitting on 4 bonus rolls with no heroic kills and nothing to spend my 420 crests on i can craft two other items but thats it
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>Everyone is "WoW is back!" regarding F*rever
>It's like Mid Night does not even exist
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>>581842254
do you really need 4 bonus rolls when you know you're not killing altar/ulatek tho?
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>>581842254
why are you still playing this shit bro, forever is in like a month
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Obviously I'll never experience the story 'as it's happening'. But with the time walk stuff can I actually play through the game and get a rough feel for the story as it was happening instead of lots of after-the-fact?
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So what happens with my 20 years account once Forever launches? Will all my mogs, mounts and pets transfer or they will just rot in retail ...?
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>>581842372
well i'm trolling if i don't take the bonus rolls
i killed it on my main multiple times, but idk if i can get invited and all my gear has vers on it so i pretty much have to tank or ill get kicked for low dps
>>581842392
this game actually has content that doesn't put you to sleep
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>>581842681
They'll rot. Maybe they'll add some sort of cross-access for specific cosmetics, but I imagine they're going clean slate with it.
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Gonna be 100% honest with you sisters, I'd much rather play actual vanilla than forever because the overall graphics changes are so fucking awful with no way to turn them off
btw I absolutely hate vanilla and think it's the most boring ass version of wow
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>>581842848
>well i'm trolling if i don't take the bonus rolls
you're trolling if you waste a whole month of vaults picking coins when you can't kill the only relevant bosses
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>>581842962
same but i think banilla is pretty good, and the water and darkness in fagever is pretty good
>>581843001
chill its an alt i just got done farming my crest cap
i CAN kill them, i have done so
idk if i can get invited, probably not to a kill group, but now i have this massive stack of rolls and crests that i cant fucking use...
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>>581843295
thats the problem you cant kill the boss if you don't get invited and those coins are worthless
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>Blood Elves were capable of being Druids and Shamans this entire time they just aren't because... THEY JUST AREN'T, OKAY?
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>>581843295
>and the water and darkness in fagever is pretty good
no it looks like ass and completely clashes with everything else
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>>581843450
ya...
>>581840367
froo let me come to the reclear on my shitty dk
plz plz plz
i will heal prog on my paladin as payment
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>WoW top 15 game most played

Worlobros, we won, but at what cost?
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>>581843717
So many players are griefing themselves with coins just because a streamer said you have to take coins but they are normal players not hof tryhards.
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>>581843717
whomst've
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>guild makes you trade your boe's to sell for guild bank
>you get a cut of the gold
>i get a boe
>guild is refusing to pay me
i'm so mad
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>>581844516
the other picture you used last time was better
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>>581844516
holy shit botbro finally changed his pics
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>Blizzard is removing WoW: Forever beta access from players with offensive character names.

Why did people even think for a second that they could get away with anything just because it was a beta? Weird.
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>>581844685
who cares its a beta
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>>581844801
just like people who name themselves Fentanyl Floyd in an RP game
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>>581844685
I guess they think they are safe because they paid for the beta
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>>581843584
>Blood Elves were capable of being Druids and Shamans
I need these in retail, skelves are just retarded/danger hair colored slopcopies of belves and I won't play them.
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>>581842254
Brown elves are a miracle of the universe.
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No matter how cute the blue elf is nobody can compare to the loading screen judgement belf.
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>>581845252
yeah because the skirt is actually a skirt and not her legs molded into one big oval
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>>581845394
I meant this specific one.
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Will Nelfwife enjoyers be making paladins?
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>>581845883
The only acceptable paladins are humans, draenei, and blood elves
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>>581846117
and Dwarf
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>>581845883
I'll enjoy making little paladins with a nelfwife if you catch my drift
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>>581821791
atleast Brack had the balls to take questions at an open Q&A. Aggrend only takes curated questions from Blizzard CMs and tweets that make him look good
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now that retail is getting abandoned, can they finally hire gooners and turn it into a legit porn-obsessed cash cow to milk the degens while they twiddle their purist ideals into forever?
I'm tired of uggo models on retail, follow the gacha way
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Blue elves?
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>>581846162
Full furious glad on dorf? We don't do that here
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Retail sisters?? Our response????
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>>581821791
CHADrend, the man destined to flush the retoilet
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Where the devs on crack when they were making the hairstyle options?
Why are they all so garbage?
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>>581846286
>shit on fatgrend
>forever tranny immediately shill fatgrend
kek
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https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Brotherhood_of_the_Horse
at least there will be more brotherhood of the horse lore in forever
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>>581846926
on the norwood scale, what number is that
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Does anyone have screenshots of the graphics in forever vs. classic?
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>>581846926
its your punishment for playing the most boring possible option in a fantasy game.
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>>581847079
I have this
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>>581847068
like a 2 maybe? it's just a bit of a widow's peak
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>>581847125
> omg you're boooring!!! you need to be a bimbo female blood elf like me uwu <3

Ok tranny
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>>581846926
why are you complaining about models from 14 years ago?
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>>581847342

Because the game is playable, supported and constantly updated and selling new expansions in 2026?
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>>581847416
who gives a shit
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>>581847218
we just dont have the technology to paint the old blood elf models blue, please understand
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>>581847658
I do
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>>581847218
We need a 4th version of WoW that is strictly just elves.
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What are the most KINO exotic pets for BM hunters?
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>>581847658
I don't
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>>581847834
depends of your race and mog
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>>581847898
Void Elf female, heritage set cause I'm a basic bitch and don't have a lot of hunter sets.
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>>581845883
Too anti-lore for me, I accept them but I won't play them.
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>>581846581
uhh... TLT is going to be epic... 8 new dungeons, 4 new zones and a new raid
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>>581848204

Tranny
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>>581848225
this but Undead Paladins and I don't accept them
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>>581848298
too bad hispanicbro
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>>581848204
>Void Elf female
anything from the wow shop
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>>581848253
Yes :3c
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>>581848298
99.99% of Horde Paladins are still gonna be Blood Elves anyway so them adding a new class to an ugly race won't change anything
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>>581847218
The difference between the alliance and horde chargers is stark. One of them looks like it's from a completely different game, which it basically is.
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>>581848374
but they don't sell pets
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Human Shaman
Human Druid
Human Demon Hunter
Human Evoker

WHEN?
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>>581848498
at least give us human shaman
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Kul Tiran Paladin
Void Elf Paladin
Gnome Paladin

WHEN?
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>>581848457
well yeah it's a retail mount, blood elfs have the shitty low res horse but metzen said no we need sky elves.

>>581848498
>>581848609
human shaman will happen soon because it's a no asset class (making the totem is not the same as a paladin mount).
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>>581845883
ofc but i'm a paladin/belf enjoyer
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>>581848679
>making the totem is not the same as a paladin mount

I think to blizzard making any sort of assets for a class is like asking them to move a mountain.
All they had to do to unlock Paladin for everyone was grab their racial mount, put some gold shit on it and that's it.
Same for Shaman just grab an arathi rock and make it a totem for Human shaman and that's it but Blizzard would rather make 999 different trans dracthyr hairstyles than anything involving gameplay
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>>581848204
can we meet in game?
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>>581848378
pls b my gf
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>>581849028
they just take forever because they know they can use it as content to fill up updates
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What if you meet the female pandaren of your dreams, then she told you someone in her family wants to meet you saying it was your destiny. Then you see this...
https://files.catbox.moe/ttkcd5.png
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>>581848679
It's also gonna be the forsaken paladin mount in forever, which is the point.
Shit stands out like a gangrenous thumb.
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What do you call a Goblin Mage
A GOBLIN WHO CAN SPELL
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>>581849217
>It's also gonna be the forsaken paladin mount in forever, which is the point.
oh yeah that's what I mean when I say it's a retail mount but they are using it for both version of the game
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>stickney is an alliance subhuman that forked the belf model into velf
>aggrend is an alliance subhuman that forked the belf model into skelf
come on, do your helf shit in TLT, I'm still playing my race.
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>>581849449
High Elf is a Forever thing not retail
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>>581849449
uh no anon that was metzenkino but thank god they confirmed no more races for tlt
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>>581849035
>>581849145
Answer my question you dumb niggers, what are some cool BM exotic pets?
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>>581849449
Metzen is confirmed as the one who made skelves, everyone else on the team just wanted to do high elves and blood elves
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>>581849753
>everyone else on the team just wanted to do high elves and blood elves
Everyone else on the team is a retarded newfag unlike Metzen, he will sell you retail eversong and helf/belf as a full priced expansion.
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>>581849753
metzen exposed again.
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>>581849753
I got legit mad when I saw that video, the forever team was actually going to deliver and then fucking metzen ruined everything
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>>581849643
https://www.wow-petopia.com/index.php
the ones you like

whiptails are my favorite by devilsaurs are a staple
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>metzen
this is sabotage
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Why is nobody talking about Labrynths
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>>581850252
cus theyre not on ptr yet fuckstick
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>>581850252
Because with modern blizzard it'll be delve but you have two more rooms haha!
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>>581850252
its a tranny delve lil unc
that being said m+ are forced to do it for a mythic keepsake, the best trinket for m+

>>581850316
bro they added the labyrinth to the ptr weeks ago, even before blizzcon
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>>581850252
12.1.5...forgotten...
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Now that the dust has settled, what's the verdict on the new zone?
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https://www.wowhead.com/forever/news/new-mounts-revealed-in-wow-forever-datamining-382981

RETOILET WHEN?
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>>581851096
coiled sneed is ok
vault is not ok despite all the cucks bitching about flying and lack of open world friction
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>>581851096
The island is cool but there's not a lot of reason to go there once you finish the campaign and the reps. Underground zone is atmospheric but the gameplay is aids.
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>>581851161
>literal recolors of retail mounts
hahahahahahah you poor forevercucks
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>>581851161
are mounts in forever / classic still items in your bag?
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>>581851794
no
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>>581851096
The isle itself is bland. The undergrounds vaults are some of the worst garbage they've made since Korthia.
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>>581849643
are you really a tranny
please say no
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How do i recreate this chad in retail?
Everything looks awful
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>>581851096
the only reason it's noteworthy is how annoying getting to the raid is
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>>581850252
It's a slightly bigger delve with a six week questline to get a mythic item. The fuck is there to talk about.
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>>581851984
I don't get it
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>finish dungeon
>exit
>spawned right in picrel
haha
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>>581853459
>tranny glasses
>shitty vanilla mog
>hd shoulders
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>>581853525
i think eyepatch is cooler than glasses
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>>581853656
glasses are not cool
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>>581851096
>korthia 2.0
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Ion: "What have you done?!"
Holly: "Sometimes, the hand of fate must be forced"
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>>581854472
WTF she jerked him off backstage while wearing the transmog?!
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>>581821791
Aggrend keeps this up then someone from above him will order him to shut up or silence him
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>>581854865
Nah this is 100% intentional. The marketing for forever can be summed up as: "this is not retail"
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>>581854702
Ion's gay...
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>>581855216
so thats why he made Kiro....
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>>581855216
WTF she made the frostmourne carrying gay guy jerk Ion backstage?!
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Unironically and sincerely, how would YOU fix this game

HARDMODE: You cannot remove mythic+.
ULTRAHARDMODE: You also cannot remove the infinite gearing loop of Mythic+.
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>>581855827
>HARDMODE: You cannot remove mythic+.
>ULTRAHARDMODE: You also cannot remove the infinite gearing loop of Mythic+.
they fucked m+ this season and now no one is playing
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Ion: If you want white blond high elves, the horde is waiting for you
> Shadowlands is criticized like crazy and everyone is stopping to play
*Breaks high elf glass in case of emergencies and gives Void Elf "white blond high elf" options after saying he wasn't going to*

Should Ion be sodomized?
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>>581855827
They basically removed M+ this season already. I think it's a test of how many people would participate willingly because you get nothing out of doing it now. Rerolls are the best vault item and can be obtained with world content, raid has the best gear, and if you actually reroll dungeons you can do it once a week and fuck off.
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>>581855924
But this game has been slowly dying since Shadowlands. What does one season matter?
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>>581855934
Ion went full retarded and tried to fight the alliance trannies during the peak of their bitching.
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>>581855827
Replace Ion so we can get some proper new systems in to spice shit up from the Diablo-3fication we've suffered since Legion. Fire Holly, she's a terrible product manager as far as Retail is concerned. Flush out the story team and replace them with people who actually like the World of Warcraft and not Moonguard's version of Warcraft since the major complaint every expansion always comes back to how bad the story is.
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>>581856090
>But this game has been slowly dying since Shadowlands.
That's cope because this game is totally slowly dying since [expansion I stop playing the game].

>What does one season matter?
Because this is the first season the mess with the loot structure since fucking forever and this is not even considering ploos it was an issue before that.
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>>581856315
>That's cope because this game is totally slowly dying since [expansion I stop playing the game].
Unironically a lot of people never developed object permanence when they were babies. They stop playing a game and in their mind the game is dead because they're not playing it right now.
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>>581856530
wtf israel
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>>581856091
>the peak of their bitching.

For all the good it did, Alliance still got fat humans and diaper gnomes while the horde got new races like Vulpera and chad Zandalari. Let alone the horde still hasn't paid for genociding the Night Elves and were even allowed into the new night elf city (yet horde cried that the alliance can go to silvermoon)
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>>581856606
>alliance trannies are now pretending vulpera good
lol
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>>581856219
I sincerely believe a good expansion setting and tone of how the player interacts with the world would alleviate 80% of peoples' hatred of modern wow. Even my mazerat friends that basically treat this game like Fellowship seem utterly disgusted and annoyed by how dumb the shit looks. For them to even notice it is one thing, for them to actively complain about it is very surprising.
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>>581856606
And then like how everyone guessed MIDnight turned out to be the biggest Alliance circlejerk expansion around with the devs being petty against the Horde every chance they get.
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the issue is everything is just too throwaway right now. yeah every patch has usually been a total gear reset but we used to get patches every 4-6 months, now if you aren't a high end player it's only like 2 months before some new invasionslop or buggy ass piece of shit experimental content comes out and just shits out hero gear for free. the total resets and the soft resets happen so often now it all feels totally pointless. and it's not just gear or gameplay but the world itself which feels terrible because the vast majority of people want the treadmill to at least look nice and not blatantly be a treadmill. the lore basically resets every major patch at this point, everything feels like a pitch for a different story that wasn't happening before the current patch and won't continue after it, it's like they just view everything to do with the story as transient as gear and that it can just be reset nonstop with no reaction or scorned attachment from players
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>>581856761

Vulpera are an entire new race with new lore and most importantly, the horde asked for it, so they got it.
Alliance wanted Sethrak or High Elves or anything and we got Diaper gnomes.
Let alone you got yet ANOTHER Shaman race, making it so the horde has 999999 races that can be shaman while the alliance has like 3 and all with shit lore.
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the vulpera are pretty cool i wish blizz did literally anything with them
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>Height sliders literally exist as potions
>Modders figure out body weight by tweaking sliders on polygons
Is it that difficult for blizzard to add plus size? my vulpera isn't supposed to be skinny he's packing chub...
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A turtle made it to the water
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>>581857092
>Blues still assblasted over not getting Snakes, a race they interacted with for 1 quest while Horde had an entire zone with them.
KWAB
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SERIAL NO. 581857082
*sniff* *sniff* *SNIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIFF* a female
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>>581857373

Horde will never know what it's like to ask for something and not get it since you trannies have been pandered since Burning Crusade.

Remember, you got Blood Elf lore butchered so you horde troons can play as the bimbo woman you wish you were
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>>581857739
reddit tranny cope
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>>581857739
>skinny crack addict
>bimbo
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>>581857739
Oh yeah, Horde will never know and Horde have never been told time and time again they can't have a race they've wanted since vanilla. Horde have never experienced having to go through two entire zones helping a race just for the Devs to turn around and go
>Well uh, actually you can't have that race, we already gave you this race and we plan no more races for the rest of this story.
Oh yeah, never happened. Won't someone think of the poor unfortunate alliance? They clearly have it so much harder.
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>>581858202
> Us horde are opressed because our trolls can be any color but green :(

Bitch even your Zandalari have green color and stats show NONE of you would play the ugly Amani, same as none of you would play Ogres. All you freaks wanna be is elven women.
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>>581858453
And Void Elves have pink skin options, so I guess Alliance really don't need High Elves either.
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>>581858453
I would play ogres. Fuck you. I would never ask Blizzard for a cosmetic again if it had 2 heads and made the Warcraft 2 bloodlust sound as a /joke.
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>Horde would never actually play Ogres, all you want to do is play pretty Elves!
>We of the glorious Alliance would've actually played Sethrak, you just don't get it. Our main played races might be Night Elves, Humans and Void Elves, but we'd really really really play it this time!
OH NO NO
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>Skyborne voice actors sound like elves
>Midnight blood elf voice actors are the vulpera and mechagnome guy for men and what sounds like a tauren voice actor for women
What the fuck were they thinking
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>>581858834
remind me of the furfags pretending they are the most popular wow races
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When we finally get Vrykul in TLT, all the elf trannies will race change, screenshot this post. Blizz will realize nobody gives a fuck about elves.
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It's not even elves as a whole that are popular, it's specifically blood elves.
Nightborne are nearly in the bottom 5 less played races and haranir, despite having an absolute fuckload of customization options to the point they struggle to even have a distinct visual identity because you can just make them whatever, are only like 5 races higher up from nightborne and are under shit like mag'har orcs and pandaren. There is no sizable audience for more night elf offshoots.
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Horde got
> Night elf male and female model through Nightborne
> Dwarf model through Earthen
> Female HUMAN model through Dracthyr
> Night Elf again through Haratir


Alliance got
> Uh blood elf model through Void Elf?
> And blood elf model... again... through male Drachtyr?
> And maybe blood elf model AGAIN through Skyborne?

Why the horde wants to be the alliance so bad?
Why do they want even our human models? Hordies asking even their undead get a full normal human body like Nathanos.
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>>581858851
There's been a voice actor's strike happening for the last year or so.
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How do we convince all those Forevernoids that retail is the true path fellow sisters?
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>>581859268
By going back.
Go on.
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99% of faction discourse is just Alliance fans trying to gaslight everyone that the thing they asked for was something the Horde asked for instead
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>>581840367
Cute picture
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>>581859195
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>>581859230
>Why the horde wants to be the alliance so bad?
>by far the least popular races
KEK the alliancetrannies are not sending their best
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>>581859464
going back where?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHt-axg74Lk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r6guoqiRiI

THIS KILLS THE RETOILET
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>>581859268
Let them play Forever. The prodigal son will come back home eventually.
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>>581845883
Why does her face look so bogged?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4KR9gqEbJQ

Nelfie paladins are canon since Legion
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>>581855827
I just want to start by saying the game could be worse and i still enjoy playing it but the midnight changes and the loot changes for this season particularly are downgrades to what we've had in the past.
Here goes:
Being in a guild group gives you a a 10% damage/healing bonus that the raid is tuned around.
No more tuning around liquit and echoke, the raid will be tuned for wr 1000 guilds instead.
Chase items are better spread out throughout the raid, so that they can actually aid your prog instead of putting the giga broken shit on the last two.
Mythic plus is now a walled garden like PvP, the best items for mythic plus will only be obtained from mythic plus. Upgrading mythic+ gear is now removed and you will receive "mythic plus points" to be used on a vendor instead of loot drops. Keystone system removed, you can choose to que for "ranked" mythic plus as a solo or up to a 5 man group, if you time the dungeon you will receive rating, failing two times in a row will cost you rating, rating decides the difficulty level.
SoloShuffle and BGblitz removed
Flex que for 3v3, 2v2, and RBGs replace it, gladiator is reimplemented for 2v2. Dedicated PvP developers assigned to actually work on the fucking game instead of the bullshit we have now.
Addon changes are now rescinded, and the legal department will be drawing up cease and desist orders to anyone collecting combat log data to collate into a "ladder".
Class designers will begin to reimplement abilities that were "pruned" for no reason whatsoever.
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how the hell are specs like prot paladin supposed to work on controller
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>>581860135
Nothing after MoP is canon albeitho
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>>581860274
you're not suppose to play wow on controller unless you're playing classic
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>>581860135

Traitor whore, immediatly going FOR THE LIGHT! abandoning Elune
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>Want to go do something
>Forget what I was gonna do by the time I'm at the mage tower
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>>581860269
Depends what you mean by being tuned around WR 1000. How early would you like a guild like that to kill the last mythic boss? Because now they usually get 1 gauranteed kill in at the end of the season and that's it.
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>>581860269
>SoloShuffle and BGblitz removed
Blizzard is kinda killing all pvp next season with the new renown pvp thing because you can kill it with bot games and casual pvp
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>>581855827
Get rid of Mythic Raiding lockouts and 20 man requirement. Make Mythic Raiding as hard as current Heroic VA.
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>>581860663
3-4 months at worst, progging for six months with no breather just leads to burnout and part of the reason why people feel the need to branch swing to higher wr guilds which leaves the lower end as literal revolving doors. It is corrosive to what blizzard ultimately wants from content with friction, to get you invested in the people you're playing with so you don't unsub, but they're shit at doing it because they're fucking morons.
>>581860823
have you seen them on ptr or something?
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>>581855827
1) Remove Dracthyr, Vulpera, Diaper Gnomes, and Haranir
2) Keep Evoker, expand all classes to all races
3) Add shaman / rogue tank, mage / hunter healer
4) Remove LFR / Mythic Raiding
5) Add queue for m+
6) Remove the upgrade system
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>>581861260
no that's for .2 but they posted 1 screenshot during blizzcon it was basically the usual renown pve faction but for pve and they specifically said ALL pvp will progress the renown.
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>>581856853
>first new content for WC3 in over 2 decades is horde shit
>that same content revolves around a new race/class combo they're getting
>horde still have more race/class combos than alliance
>hordesissies still bitching
Impossible to please you niggers.
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>>581862046
no one gives a shit about your tranny wc3 paypig content
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man, why does the evoker gotta be locked to an ugly scalyfag
thank god it has a human form, but it still forces the scaly form on some attacks, really annoying
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>>581861438
suppose it depends on what is available on the renown track
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>The launch of the Forever beta did not really have impact on participation in retail M+ content

Told you, only Classic players (almost nothing compared to Retail players) are playing and gonna play WoWforever. Meaning going to be dead one month post release. Meaning Retail won. Again.
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>>581861394
>Remove Dracthyr, Vulpera
nyo
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>>581862046
If Blizzard set an expansion in Elwynn, Redridge, Duskwood and Stranglethorn and made Horde the sole focus of it, you blues would be pissing and shitting your pants for the next 20 years.
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I can't wait to roll a dwarf paladin in forever.
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>>581862319
This is the only thing we saw so far, gear is the first reward I guess.

>>581862402
Well yeah its a beta and the season is still new it wont be a problem until november when the season is old and they actually release the game.
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https://www.bluetracker.gg/wow/topic/us-en/2354340-class-tuning-incoming-september-22/
>no blightfall fix
its over bros...
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>>581862402
I'll be playing Forever on release but I'm not ditching Retail. Yet. I talked to my mazed M+ buds and 2 out of 4 of them are gonna give it a try as well, so we'll be playing together.
The beta, while pulling in huge numbers, is for hype andies, spergs and streamer orbiters.
>>581862427
I can't wait to roll an orc shaman and get matching surnames with my fellow maze rats.
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>>581862427
>>581862968
>every hybrid is retailfied
>rogue is literally pure unfiltered vanilla shit
Just like in retail rogues are doa. Well I know rogue is op this season but still.
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>>581862968
>matching surnames
what're you twelve?
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retail is fucking dead and all your faggot collections and avatars over the past two decades are going to disappear and that's a good thing
sit on that and rotate
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>>581862412
the saviors of wow
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>>581863227
No, 28.
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>>581863227
isn't that the target age for wow forever?
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>>581862968
>>581863095
First character when wow came out was a dwarf hunter (just like the cinematic boyz!), then played a tauren druid and later troll warlock for a few expansions, never tried paladin before. Figured I'd go back to alliance for a change of pace, although I will miss that troll has the best dance and tauren /moo and /train.
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>>581863248
Jokes aside does anybody really think this is gonna hold interest past a few weeks-months?
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>>581863248
thank you for posting sar
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>>581863395
Yeah bro all the 12 roblox/fornite kids fucking love uncslop
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>>581863428
People will be raid/dungeonlogging (they're doing SoD reals again) by month 2.
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>>581863248
+$0,01 deposited into your account saar! Very goodly done, please continue posting the needful.
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>>581821791
>WoW Forever is like going home again... finally... oh man it's so good I can't wait.
>gets to level 10
>quits out of boredom
Why do classicfags do this to themselves every single time? Adding some fetch quests and cobbling together "new" content from existing assets is not a new game. It's still 99% classic.
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>>581863742
>It's still 99% classic.
they'll say "good" and then complain when blizzard puts it on life support once 95% of the playerbase leaves after the initial hype
we've seen this song and dance how many times now?
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>>581863402
My first was an orc warrior back in TBC. Then I mostly went with a tauren druid and only started mixing things up the last 2 expansions.
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>>581863742
>tfw completely inoculated against this because I ditched classic at level 28(made a male nelf resto druid and ran him to elwynn to hang with the fellas) after deciding I didnt feel like doing ti all again.

so I get to have the classic experience as though new-ish(I did it all 20 years ago) AND I get to then branch into whatever new stuff.

Forever is what classic wow always should have been.

Classic faggots played themselves by burning out on fresh over and over for seven years instead of just waiting for blizzard to unfuck themselves.
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>>581863985
I dont think that will happen, this is philosophically different from "Classic No Changes" and actually offers a new experience.

Im an oldfag who had NO interest in "WoW:Again" but I am pumped for Forever.

They have the right idea expanding the game sideways instead of up
Staying on Azeroth instead of blasting off into space literally. the whole "Perma year one" idea is what classic should have been, jsut filling in all the spaces on the azeroth map that were blank in 2004 WoW.

I imagine we will go to the broken isle some day, but it wont be to fight the legion.
We'll go to Pandaria and there wont be a horde vs alliance war there to ruin the forest or the vale.

We will see the whole world of warcraft WITHOUT all the calamitous zone ruining.
And that is something worth sticking around for.
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>>581864471
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>>581864471
why the fuck is this trash auto playing
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>>581864471
UMMMMM
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>>581864531
>They have the right idea expanding the game sideways instead of up
You're naive if you think they will actually stick to that.
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>>581864471
What the fuck I'm trying to watch Sopranos
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>>581864545
It is? My firefox must've blocked it then kek
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>>581864691
I'm using firefox
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>>581864653
Not him but they are going "sideways" with retarded ideas like new bane affixes on raid loot, bonuses when you're underground or outside and very rare raid items.
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wtf did blizzard to do lighting engine in retail, all mobs and npcs suddenly start loading in full shadow before getting lighting effects on them. It is annoying
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janny tranny big mad lol, how hard are you seething to be doing this lol
your general is dead and you still can't rally your harem to provide you sexual erp relief release you so desperately need every 45 minutes lol
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>>581864691
you have probably blocked mod auto-play posts before
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>>581864886
Seems like a hardware issue. How old is your SSD?
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>>581865026
year and half
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>>581864923
i will play forever
i will advocate every retail change i can (even the ones I myself disagree with)
i will call myself a true classic fan
i will buy every microtransaction and report every chud i see
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Li Li Stormstout!!
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Did they... you know... zug zug?
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>>581865426
she is best kid. Drained me for years and years
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>>581865263
No idea then. Works on my machine or I haven't noticed it maybe.
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>>581865439
they look offensively gay
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>Can we have Skyborne
>No
>Can we have last names
>No
>Can we have new graphics
>No
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>>581865439
Gotta be a real old photo because Bellular is a bald hog these days.
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>>581865642
If only, the in game files already confirmed the trannyborne and the tlt teaser had the new graphics as well. Both horrible changes.
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This looks fucking awful holy shit lmaoooo
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>>581865426
What about her?
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>>581865773
Last names are more important than either point you responded to. WoW's naming system right now is archaic and needs a two name structure already.
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>>581865826
I really wish we got belfs/helfs and that the game was kept in its low poly style.
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>>581866068
I guess last name would be cool for the erpfags yeah but we are getting the bad shit like the new graphics and shitborne.
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>>581855827
Embrace the fact that retail WoW is destined to be a Zoomer lobby game for casual social hanging out and small scale PvE/PvP content, solo & with friends. WoW Forever can be the millennial game.

I'd start by hiring the Marvel Rivals rigging them and putting them to work to radically overhaul the models to have as much sex appeal & customization as possible. Attractive characters sell, that's what people want. With that solved, the casual social side of the game should be expanded & be diverse enough it basically becomes VRCHAT esque game.

For PvE i'd gut raids entirely and make them 5 man content similar to Destiny so cooler mega dungeons basically, 10+ man content is not sustainable with Zoomers who like to be with small friendgroups. I'd say current devs are doing a great job with PvE experimentation it just needs to be more permanent and funner modes.
For PvP i honestly can't say much i'm not too fond of it but appearance unlocks should be dialed up to 11 with Battle Pass style system and all, and balancing it to be less obnoxious. Unironically PvP is the aspect with most potential if done right to get more younger audiences, i like the idea of PvP but can't get into it, it's so retarded right now.

Good lobby modes would synergize well with the expanded social hangout aspect as a buffer. This is the key to saving retail WoW because it'll stop being so janky and actually be a proper social game built with Zoomer sensibilities in mind instead of echoing the past.
No point appeasing an aging audience that made its mind with Vanilla WoW, the compromises won't work. Completely different games is healthy long term for both sides rotating between both, erasing the 'This version is better' mindset, because it wouldn't be a 'version' it's a different game.
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>>581866146
>I wish we got half-assed Night Elf reskins
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>>581866243
unironically this
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>>581866435
Yes. The alternative is much worse.
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What class do you guys think this guy is?
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>>581865465

Yes! She's such a good girl!
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>>581866243
zoomers don't play this shit
>With that solved, the casual social side of the game should be expanded & be diverse enough it basically becomes VRCHAT esque game.
what?
an erp grooming simulator?
it already does that but worse
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>>581866663
He's wearing Warrior starting gear
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>>581866605
>Yes. The alternative is much worse.
Not him but no they could use the ORIGINAL tbc model instead of the new model or the shitty reskinned nelf vanilla model.
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>>581866669
there is huge lack of art of her where she calls you p word while showing off
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>>581866243
This. Vanilla fags have totally rejected most of what retail players care for most. You cant win them back by being a weird watered down version of Classic.
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>>581866243
Why do you think they ditched megadungeons? People didn't do them.
Raids still have high participation rates, they can be left alone in their current state. I think difficulty could be lower (and I say this as a CEfag) but you can already do them in 10-mans and 14-mans.
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when the fuck is the vulpera expansion
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>>581866692
Yeah it's worse because they're trying to make it a "competitive MMO" while half the players treat it like a social lobby. So they end up catering to the poopsockers and the casual mountmogcheevers but there's too much of both and not enough of either. Refocusing the game to be an actual zoomer RP lobby is the natural best step while Forever is the actual MMO
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>>581867167
you should edit some nasty text in full images and post catbox
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>>581867189
That was BFA, buddy. You got one whole questline and were chosen as a playable race over Sethrak that had way better lore and a dungeon that's still being added to M+ to this day. Be thankful, those things got way better treatment than they should've already.
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>>581867647
midnight temple is pretty cool fuck I doubt anyone here remember bfa temple or kings rest
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>>581868012
I think Shrine of the Storm was way worse.
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>>581866692
>zoomers don't play this shit
Yeah they don't unless they're given a reason too, dumbass. Business wise having two just as stacked population wise versions of the game would be huge. Not possible now because the old guard made it's mind. Retail WoW will ALWAYS be seen as a 'lesser version'.
>an erp simulator?
What do you think the RP stands for in MMORPG?
>>581866995
Everyone that plays Retail these days treats the game as such, it's the natural next step. The PvPers in particular have the most if they're not in a BG they're in their house vibing.
>>581867146
Contestable, but i agree they need to be scaled down somewhat 5-10 man is valid. Loot pools should be max regardless of size. Raiding feels like an 'obligation' and as a concept that needs to stop forever. Raids in general cause a lot of stress in guilds which is bad for community building, not healthy and relaxed.
>>581867258
eSports is sadly a problem in most games these days so WoW isn't exclusive to it. People actually want fun casual games there's a reason Nu-Halo failed miserably. A carrot on a stick is a healthy thing to have but at some point it can be toxic, it shouldn't.
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>>581868345
kr, shrine, boralus, temple, tol dagor and especially manor with the s1 affix lmao
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>>581868409
>Retail WoW will ALWAYS be seen as a 'lesser version'
lol, make sure to stop by in 3 months so i can laugh at you
>What do you think the RP stands for in MMORPG?
not that, carry your ass back to trash cocksucker
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>>581868409
>Retail WoW will ALWAYS be seen as a 'lesser version'.
I have a lot of problems with the current version of Retail but this is silly and makes no sense. By WHO? Streamers and Classicfags that can't move on?
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You owe everything to streamers, pay your due respect to the thought leaders.
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>>581869478
this is not the classic thread bro
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https://x.com/towelthetank/status/2102137668377473277

the fat slob is having a melty on twitter
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>>581869478
>>581869538
why was the classic thread not resurrected upon alejandrosensuals return?
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>>581869783
>hd mounts
>hyperspawn
>retail classes
>retail assets
>showered with op gear while questing or just crafting
fat fuck is right, forever belong to the retail players not the classictrannies
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>>581869783
Different status?
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i sloppa'd some cool images of my vulpera (of which i am still not) and i will not be showing ANY of you people.
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>>581869783
>and yes i woke up today and chose violence
lol
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>>581869783
>third version of the game
>retail, classic and forever
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>>581869783
can anyone sum up that shit to me
I tried getting an idea by reading his last line he just say "hmm the game is for EVERYONE" which mean fuckall
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>>581869783
>And yes I woke up today and chose violence.
rip his toilet
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>>581870369
>>581869956
tldr classictrannies think forever is for them
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>>581869783
blvd is getting cooked in the comments
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Honestly I think retail is mostly fine I just want new shit. New exciting system like artifact weapons
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>>581870369
Forever is gonna turn into Retail's version of Classic/SoD and Classic sisters should expect wow tokens and dungeon queues within the year
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>>581869783
He's upset because Classic players are against putting retail systems in Forever.
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>>581871249
>gonna
They already selling fucking beta access and retail tier races.
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>>581871447
Nobbel acting like he hasn't benefited from his fans carrying him in all content he's ever needed to do to record footage. Man's never had to organically form a group once in his life.
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>>581868345
I forgot how many dungeons we used to be able to run.
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Who the fuck socializes waiting for mob tags? I understand how walking to a dungeon by foot might lead to some adventures and socialization but this?
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under this place its not allowed:

1: newfag
2: samefaf
3: summerfag
4: tourist
5: karen
6: feminist
7: karen who tell on others
78: people hwo play daemung haunter not reuglar haunter
9: boom heatshot
10: BOOOOOOOOOOOM
11: trolls
12: haters
13: idiets

14, last of all, ANY WHO POSTS WHATS ABOVE WILL BE IGNORED OUT FROM WOWG!!!
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>>581872102
Because classic players are mentally ill
>hey
>hey
>group for quest?
>ok
>invite/accept kill mobs
HOLY SHIT THIS IS IT DOOD THE SOCIAL ELEMENT IS ALIVE
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>>581872215
why did you boughted
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3 expansions down the line they'll add A.I bots like Guild Wars 1 did.
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>>581866692
>zoomers don't play this shit
im 28
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>>581872102
>>581872251
quiet r*etoilets. you had your game and it's being sunsetted because it fucking sucked ass. it meant nothing to anyone who wasn't already 10 years addicted. what you think makes a good game is worth the shit on my shoe.
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>>581872517
Follower dungeons and raids already exist, although they give you no loot and it's basically story mode for socially anxious andies.
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>>581871447
>Hold the line
There is no holding the line against Blizzard. They will do whatever they want.
They are pretending to have some reverence for Classic and respect for Classic players but that's just nonsense. When all the complaints and requests from newcomers drown out Classicfags you will see.
Frankly I'm surprised people still don't understand how Blizzard operates.
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>>581869783
I watched him during the blizzcon and while playing the beta, he didn't like wowforever at all. He looked annoyed and bored.
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>>581869783
I remember his melty when people were making fun of him for buying carries.
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>>581866692
I was playing TBC when I was 8.
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>>581872785
>There is no holding the line against Blizzard. They will do whatever they want.
right now they are in denial
metzen totally created epic skyelves because he loves the game and not because they are going to sell blood and high elf down the line
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>>581872785
It's because Aggrend's presenting himself as their saviour. Like he single handily saved Warcraft from the evil retail and the evil Blizz. Classicfags eat that shit up and they'll certainly be feeling the taste of shit in his mouth when Ion or Holly come in and tell him to add dungeon queues down the line
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581872215
boost buying shitbag
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fk u shisbag
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You faggots don't get it.
Aggrend built Worlo Forever in his moms basement with nothing but a stick of ram and a box of scraps.
-HE- Is worlo. It doesn't matter that the Retail devs once again had to bail him out and actually make the majority of the product, /OUR KING/ understands what Worlo is!
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>>581871447
This Josh guy is such a faggot, i expect you all to bring me the post where he inevitable blames sexism/racism on wow forever being shut down.
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the retoilet meltdown that forever has caused is beyond anything I'd dare to have dreamed
it's been weeks and you're still in full panic mode desperately trying to explain to each other how this isn't happening hahahahaha
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>>581871447
Do you guys think echo will be able to win the forever rwf or they will choke for a 4th time.
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>>581873943
and other delusional fever dreams

Classic is gonna get EoSd not retail.
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yo LGBT general. is wow worth playing? i've been a runescape player since 2009. never really done the whole wow schtick. is wow even good? do i just sub and play retail? i aint buying the expansions tho not giving blizzard tons of money i aint a sheeple. are all the classic expansions just for people stuck in the past like OSRS? cause i don't play osrs that shit is TRASH

is wow forever good? basically is any of this shit good or do i steer clear?
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>>581873326
If Wrath Classic couldn't finish without RDF, I don't get why people actually think RDF isn't gonna come to forever when the numbers start falling off
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>>581873943
We aren't in the Classic general coping, you are all here so who is melting down?
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>>581874170
no wow is terrible
stay out and never post here again
subhuman
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>>581874117
who said anything about end of service LMFAOOOO something on your mind there retoilet
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>>581873943
the funniest thing about this to me still is you guys hated wow and retail and anything blizz and now youre shilling for blizz’s wow retail lite that youll drop in a month(week?)
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it's too hot to play vidya
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monitoring
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GTA6 + wow forever + zelda oot + maplestory classic
Hoooooly shit sisstas we are doomed I'm crying alone in my wow house right now
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>>581872785
>>581873326
the cope from classic niggers is crazy.
"Forever" as a whole, as a product, is blizzard admitting that "No Changes" Classic is a dismal failure and needs to be completely rebooted, with notes taken directly and extensively from retail.

If classic was as perfect as these spergs try to claim, why is it so dead that blizz is replacing it? Why is every release 3 weeks of paid streamer pumped number and then instant crash into desolation?
If WoW Classic does not need QOL updates, why is it so fucking desolate, while retail, despite being in the midst of the dogshit saga, is stable.

Even I think vanilla WoW has a more compelling setting and better story, but its GAMEPLAY is antiquated and in need of serious overhaul. Which is what Forever is going to do.
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>>581874964
>maplestory classic
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If forever get demon hunters.... It's gg
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>>581875148
don't cry for us dude, anyone sensible knew the score
nexon has a flawless track record of raping games to death
we were never gonna have our classic
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>>581874989
They honestly think the gameplay will remain Classic forever and that feels very naive to me. They are doing the frogs in a pot technique with changing how Forever plays it's obvious to see.
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>>581875296
Soon
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why is it so easy to trick people obsessed with Classic into thinking that they "won"
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>>581855827
>Unironically and sincerely, how would YOU fix this game

> Bring flexible raid sizes to Mythic. Keep fixed 20-man while the competitive race is active if you have to, then open it up afterward so smaller guilds aren’t permanently locked out.

> Fix the atrocious new-player onboarding. Give new players an optional campaign that’s effectively an abridged tour through WoW’s story from Vanilla to the present so they actually understand who these people are and why anything matters.

> Completely overhaul the writers’ room. As Arthas would say: “This writing philosophy must be purged.”

> This is harder to explain, but WoW’s story needs to stop feeling like “and then this happened, and then this happened, and then this happened.” Events need to actually cause other events. Characters should drive the plot. Things need setup, payoff and consequences that last longer than a patch cycle.

> The Worldsoul Saga and the idea of one overarching story across several expansions is actually good on paper. It just needs much better execution.

> Slow down the expansion treadmill. The accelerated release cadence feels like the retail team can barely keep up, and losing the traditional X.3 patch makes it feel like ideas that would’ve finished one expansion are getting pushed into the next.

> Harandar is the most obvious example. It already feels like a continuation of TWW’s Haranir/Rootlands material, and the fact that gathering there was literally leveling TWW profession skills does not exactly help the perception that it started life as cut TWW content.

> Most importantly: let the game breathe. Let zones matter for longer than six months. Let characters exist between world-ending catastrophes. Let stories develop instead of immediately sprinting toward the next expansion.

> And please make old Azeroth relevant again. Twenty years of continents should be more than a giant transmog storage facility.
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Blizzard trying their hardest to figure out what WoW players want
>retail for zoomers
>classic for boomers
>forever for between
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>>581876091
zoomers are never going to play wow bro
they dont care
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Why is that slob towelie so nervous? Don't he have the retail audience on lock?
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>>581875707
If there’s one thing I hope Blizzard learns from WoW Forever, it’s that people genuinely want a reason to go back out into the old world and explore it again. Honestly, retail is probably overdue for another Cataclysm-style world revamp.
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>>581876165
you think he is nervous but he is shilling for blizzard, he is inviting and defending the newfags who wouldn't touch classic
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>>581876091
Zoomers don't play MMOs and they never will. We need to accept the fact that we are aging out and the genre is stagnant.
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>>581876482
More like he sees the writing on the wall and wants to make forever as close to retail as possible for his own benefit
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>>581876165
the retail audience is dying lol he needs to jump to a new host
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>>581875651
wow did an AI make that for you, big boy?
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>>581876672
>dying
It's nearly the end of the expansion, a lot of players are doing other things that's not dying that's the MMO cycle.
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>>581876165
I think he's just used to spout whatever is on his mind(dogshit) and never getting any pushback because nobody give a fuck about retail, atleast not in a while
People seem to care about forever so now that he's told no he doesnt know how to react
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Maybe blizz will use some of the forever money to improve retail after the streamer contracts run out and it dies?
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>>581877206
>nearly the end
cope lmao its the second fucking patch
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why does the game lag with players around?
my framerate literally gets cut in half as soon as another player is around, and this is independent of any settings
putting all graphics at the bare minimum and I only get 100fps in silvermoon, with <5% cpu usage, but graphics maxed out in eversong woods I can get 240fps
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>>581877658
The game has to reach all the players in your area to gather some information from them including items, stats and etc. I don't think you can do mucb besides having a better PC.
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>>581877658
Because for some retarded reason you're technically /inspecting everyone you can see just in case you actually do click on them and look at their gear. It's like shader caching but shit you more often than not never see.
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Do elves date dwarves?
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>>581879006
off with ye
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The spec-based 1% mount should be locked to that spec forever
>B-but anon then boosters and 5mans will farm up 40 mounts apiece and take them all
>mfw
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>>581879203
Off with ye pants? Well if you insist!
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>>581879006
I don't think they find each other particularly attractive but I'm sure there's exceptions
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>>581877658
Game is CPU bound
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wow ion i sure do love gaining 30 item levels, having 16% less mastery and using my fucking bis trinket from last tier!
this is fucking great!
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How to make Zoomers get into WoW:
Make a cool Warcraft game that isn't a RTS. Literally think Hexen/Heretic style game, zoomers love 'boomer shooters' it's the only 90s genre they fuck with. That's a good starting point. Or something cool in general
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I haven't played wow in like 15 years. I played through a lot of cata, and a bit of the launch of mists, but ended up selling my account cause I graduated around mists launch and wanted to "start my adult life" (lol).
I recovered the account recently and it's been dormant for about 7 years. Still has my original character on it and everything. Do I get anything out of resubbing on that versus just starting over?
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>>581880353
i honestly just dont think you should play this

go try forever when it comes out, the dev team in this game both hate MMOs as a genre and are not good at developing their "vision" either.
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>>581880251
>zoomers love 'boomer shooters'
yeah like what

arena shooters of all are dead, unreal tournament is dead, quake is dead, doom is dead after the dark ages shat the bed
the only shooters that do well are CoD among the gun and ball gamers, and some hero shooters like marvel
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How long until the uncs here learn that zoomers don't like video games
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>>581880490
I intend to play forever but it's not out for a little over a month and I don't really want to buy in to the beta without knowing if actual wow tickles me in any nostalgic way or if it just feels like nothing.
Also my nostalgia is more wotlk, tbc and vanilla was before my time, I was on everquest.
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>>581880353
You get to keep your old achievements and mounts.
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>>581880636
im gonna kill myself
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>>581879837
Skill issue
Consider using mastery gear
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>>581880510
counter striker is a boomer shooter
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>>581881075
CS is exclusively played by 30+ years old russians
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>>581879434
Why
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Are nightborne cool?
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>>581822534
>AI genner is a annoying spammer samefagger
nothing new there but thee discussion around forever is nonstop you homo
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The only thing worse than classic niggas are the people in this thread that are obsessed with hating classic.

I've never played classic, I don't really want to even play Forever but theres like 3 people that show up anytime Classic is mentioned and have some schizo rant to try and prove that Retail is better
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>>581881357
The npcs are really cool but the playable nb look like shit.
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>>581881445
>I've never played cla-
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>>581882345
you still read a great deal of his post thoughbeit
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>>581882358
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Nice servers wowbabs
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>>581883251
Works on my machine
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is it true that retail also has the memory leak when you go into major cities its tanks your fps until you relog?
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>>581883435
It does it more often in raids than towns but yes.
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>>581881445
classhits deserve to be harried anytime the pop up because they are insufferable
it doesn't matter if i've played a great deal of classic and generally enjoy the game
i will shit on it and them as much as humanly possible
it is my duty
fuck you
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>24 hour long threads before 12.1
>get down to 8 hour long threads before Blizzcon
>Blizzcon happens
>Back to 20 hour long threads unless we talk about classic
>meanwhile Forever gets 3 hour long threads all day long

Do people just not like to talk about Retail?
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will people care when he comes back? He was just the villain for a subpar expansion. I'd feel nothing if he returns at the end of Midnight
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>>581884006
Retail got absolutely no new news at blizzcon and in their Q&A they basically told everyone we're getting nothing for a year.
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>>581884006
theres like 10 of us max that are really mazed and actually play the game
the rest of the people in here consist of tourists, shitposters, erp heros, and collectors
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>>581884006
new toy syndrome
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>>581884363
we got a
>roguelike
>bad m+ dungeons
>12.2 news which is obviously tww cut content
>some stuff from Forever
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Disc priests, can I get some advice here? I'm lv 30 and honestly am having trouble trusting atonement is gonna heal people. Also it feels like I'm spending more time applying atonement onto the entire party with PW:S and FH than I am actually doing damage to heal with atonement.
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Anyone else can't load character list for forever? I'm just stuck until I hard close
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>>581884453
the new mount's eye is just broken on every version + he can't go down stairs properly
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>>581884912
he cute tho
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>>581884585
scaling is whack while leveling, especially heals depending on who you are healing. Holy is a little safer but you'll still have issues. Just power through until max level.

It's a huge issue that Blizz will almost never address.
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since when can night elves be warlocks? i thought they turned to satyr when they got steady whiffs of fel
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I just bought Midnight, can you not import blueprints for housing from other players or sites?
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>Asmonbald already getting griefed to fuck and back

Hope he drops :3
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>>581885376
That's a retail abomination
although, frankly, like rogues, any race should be able to 'turn to the dark side' in an RPG so every race should have warlocks/rogues
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>>581846735
the divorce isnt treating moonmoon well
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>>581884517
>>12.2 news which is obviously tww cut content
Uh the big titan robot in Northrend was cut tww content?

I agree Harandar was likely cut content but I think we're over the recycled phase of the expac. I agree we didn't get much but I wouldn't describe that 30 sec trailer as "tww cut content." It was at least a little hype and dammit I believe them that they were saving 12.2 spoilers
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>>581886005
The big titan robot was not 12.2 news.
That's a TLT teaser.
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>>581886005
I just read your post and I'm retarded and a little drunk. You were talking about the 12.2 content they talked about. Yes that seemed recycled. Tl;Dr disregard that post I'm retarded
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>>581884912
It looks like a prolapsed anus
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>>581886327
You would know, Mr. Hands.
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>>581821791
>You think you do, but you don't
narrator: they didn't
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>>581886424
Don't bring my favorite Herbie Hancock deep cut into this
I know to what you refer
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I think I will play Retail + Forever.
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>>581886745
No you can't do that anon! You have to pick a side even if that's blizzards business plan.
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>>581886745
I only have time for one. I honestly think I will main Forever and just visit retail from time to time to walk down memory lane, maybe run a key or a normal for the hell of it, chill in my house with my OG chats and memories. I'm content with that
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>>581887116
There's retards in the other thread who think playing the modern game is a bad thing and that they're somehow "above" retail players even though they're paying the exact same subscription.
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Are there any class that you guys enjoy playing in PVP but don't enjoy in PVE?
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>>581887240
I should check the tradechat on classic kek it's probably a goldmine of salt
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DIE RETAIL DIE
DIE RETAIL DIE
EAT SHIT AND DIE
EAT SHIT AND DIE
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>>581887304
Yeah retail at least has a guaranteed future for now and Forever is just getting started. But it's fucking over over for Classic
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>>581887287
i dont enjoy any of the classes in pvp or pve
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>>581887479
nvm I uninstalled mop
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why are you retail drones attacking forever when its already getting attacked by FF14 andys? Are you on the same side?
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After all these years.... Almost a combined year of my life on this game, and I still am not exalted with Ogrila.
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>lives
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Character customization updates in Shadowlands, whatever happened there
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>>581887736
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Anyone played Dwarf in WoW Forever? Is that dumb melee 1H spell animation when he makes akward back spin gone?
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>>581887702
You can just buy rep tokens during tbc timewalking.
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>>581887903
no, same spin
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>>581887784
>give some races the blackest nigger skin tones you've ever seen in your life
>jobs done
I unironically thought that Blood Elf on the Woke Shoes was supposed to be a dragon because of how black she is
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>>581888701
It's funny because they never added the Asian female human face
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>>581822707
>we have slop, mazes and tryhard spazztroons
oh damn, yeah its not looking good for retail, is it?!
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My guild is taking a break for a while once Forever releases
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Discbros.....are we back?
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>>581889242
>40% buff
Mayhaps
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you realize that by trying to kill forever with the FF14 andys that will bring down retail too?
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I just (passively without saying slurs or anything) called dumbass by realm & class name (Azralon shaman) and pointed out buttons he should press and told me he'd report me. Am i going to get banned...
I also clapped back pointing my achievements to him
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>>581889681
You're not going to get banned unless you get mass reported
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>>581888760
the SD models look way better.
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My biggest hope is that higher ups see the success of Forever with it's smaller team and completely gut most of the retail team.
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>>581889681
Nah.
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>>581889784
classic cucks not bosessing over retail for 2 posts challenge (impossible)
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>>581889784
That's your biggest cope because the retail team is literally doing everything for forever.
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>>581826182
Damn, blizzard is healing!
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>>581889681
did you do it in say with a bunch of other brs around?
possibly
i've been getting drunk and throwing shuffles when someone pisses me off and asking them if they like that and i haven't been banned this expansion
i'm already on like my 4th speech action
lol
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>>581889784
from the looks of the team at Blizzcon, half the retail team are ready to retire
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Is there a way to magnet objects together in housing, or do I have to still move everything separately
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>>581889784
Good
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>>581889967
Reddit response. If we don't talk about Forever the thread completely dies lmao
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>>581890075
>Q&A
>Retail team has someone's grandma and some euphoric dude with a mustache who speaks fancily
>Forever team has a hot brunette
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>>581889784
If Aggrend needs the retail team to come in and actually make Forever because his team can't, then his ass should be first on the chopping block tbqh.
Well, second. Holly needs to go first.
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>forever has a bmah
LMAO totally not retail-
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>>581890012
Nah it was just him and him alone. Everyone else in dungeon was a random and one guy was my friend. Literally just passively told him ''azralon shaman you got riptide & healing stream on your buttons?'' and that's about it before i clapped back pointing my achievements. Guy probably screenshotted it to blizz though
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>>581890354
why doesn't the real game have an NPC that forces the secondhand market to not go above a certain price
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>>581890347
Taliesin said that the classic team is around 18 people. Leave that fat bastard alone
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>Watches Retail basically show anything off at Blizzcon
>Comes out days after that Retail had to carry Forever's dev team
>Suddenly Blizzard is about to get hit with layoffs.
Looks like the Jeeta is gonna purge the weak links again. Hope the five classic interns can come up with something to save their skin.
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>>581890516
yeah they definitely aint purging retail lil brobro.
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>>581890475
No the classic team is not that big.
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>>581890686
You forget Aggrend counts for 16 of those 18 people. Fat fuck needs a diet.
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>>581890226
lol
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>>581825308
I literally cannot imagine my life being pathetic and pointless enough to post this. I can't even construct a theory of mind necessary for posting this to even be conceivable. It's like watching indians be voluntarily mass-squished by trains.
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>>581890767
Good one.
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>>581890279
>here is who in charge of your narrative and quests, retailcucks
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>>581856853
Good. Horde hasn’t been an interesting faction since Garrosh.
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>>581890968
I'd rather the story be focused on a Horde that's been uninteresting since WoD, than an Alliance that's been uninteresting since the opening of AQ
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>>581890686
Classic Team from about 3 years ago. I think they shoved all the men left at Blizz here

>>581890767
lmao
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>>581890960
Those are just the average Female Tauren players.
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>>581891123
>3 years ago.
What about now? But really Max said he met the whole team and it was quite small but the retail team is working with them.
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INV TO ASMON LAYER
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What has my wife Yrel been up to since Legion?
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asmons guild already has 50,000 people in it. That's way more than retail.
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>>581891830
Being a lightnigger mostly
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>>581891830
Unironically being a more prominent hearthstone character than anything with wow
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>>581892491
that's not hard to believe when you remember she is a wod "character"
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>>581891072
Suck my big lightforged dick Hordelet. Silvermoon belongs to the Alliance.
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>Close to the last expansion of the trilogy
>We still don't know anything about the void
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we're getting lots of xally backstory in 12.2, blizz have plenty of time to butcher that too.
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>>581893301
We know everything about the void
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>>581893301
its not an unknowable lovecraft ripoff anymore, it's just cosmic black hole shit now.
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>>581893301
what's there to know lol

it's a purple dimension inhabited by purple people who eat everything
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>>581893117
>alliance tranny
>larping as a futa
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>>581894485
in alliance culture futadraes are to be worshipped
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>>581894485
Look around you. Blue Silvermoon banners everywhere. It’s over, lil gup.
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>>581894637
>Alliance completely over-take Silvermoon
>End up with one of the most uninteresting expansion stories ever released to the point the entire community wants Last Titan to be out already despite Midnight being 7 months into release.
Isn't that proving the original point about the Alliance not being interesting since AQ?
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>>581894859
>writers are dogshit
>somehow this is alliance's fault
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>>581894961
Given it's the Alliance that they only want to write? Yeah, pretty much is.
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>>581894859
No one is interested in seeing your retarded dindu faction get deceived and spared for the trillionth time, retard
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>>581894961
It's almost like they are alliancels...
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Alliance didn't do shit.
Neither did the Horde.
They don't want to acknowledge the factions, its just Light based faggots and Elves.
All that drama about the Alliance being in the city meant absolute fuck all.
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>>581895139
They wanna acknowledge Alliance Elves. That's the key point. The Horde Elves were such a after-thought and haven't done anything of note despite it being their country, all expansion
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>>581895008
they want to write elf and human stories anon

we barely got any dwarf stuff in the dwarf expansion. Gnomes have been forgotten about. Worgen got shat on. Drannys get nothing.
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>>581895272
And the Elves and Humans they want to write are Alliance. So yes, it's the Alliances fault.
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My vulpera is canonically a fat latina woman...
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My guild can't kill Ula'tek heroic, nerfs when?
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>"Things were so much easier when we could just throw Orcs at the problem..."
SO WHY THE FUCK AREN'T YOU THROWING ORCS AT THE PROBLEM?!
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>>581895272
The draenei actually got some good shit during this expansion and they are setting something.
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>>581895418
Uh, sweetie. The orcs were there silly, you just didn't see them. Ganon said so.
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>The best recent Warcraft story is the new Warcraft expansion
>Focused on a horde racee
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>>581846581
NGL that shit looks way more fun just fucking around then the current sweatfest.
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>>581895498
>Ganon
Gamon, he's called Gamon. Put some respect on the Champion of the Horde
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I, Ganondorf, will save us
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>>581895528
Forsaken Kingdom was 9/11 for Alliance fans. It proved if Midnight actually focused on the Horde like it should've, we could've had a good expansion
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>>581895010
Bodied that faction
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>>581895010
AIIIIE SAVE ME GARROSH
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Alliance sisters.. I don't think we're ever gonna live down this trilogy. The horde might be right..
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>rogues are actually full #nochanges
That's how I know the retail devs are in charge of forever, rogues are useless
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>>581896453
They should've at least added pistol slop to combat rogue. Fuck the haters that's a bit of retail I like
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>>581896582
>>581896453
Or if not pistol slop at least bust out the rogue tank from SOD PLEASE
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>>581896582
>>581896698
They could at least use the modern combo point system but no fuck rogues
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>>581830738
Very nice art. They don't look like that tho
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>>581897139
its a shame
>>
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>>581898150
fornever happening
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https://www.wowhead.com/news/ula-tek-nerf-on-weekly-reset-patch-12-1-hotfixes-for-september-21st-383042
Is this enough to make ulatek puggeable?
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>>581898496
It's a nothingburger change.
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>>581898559
Oh
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>>581898496
>>581898559
Gotta wait for the forever release before they gut the raid I guess
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>xhe is still playing this shi
Did you guys not watch blizzcon?
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wow I actually killed retail ...
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>>581899074
There nothing to do until November when it actually comes out. I don't wanna play a beta
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>>581898496
Ian will pull the ripcord when everyone leaves for Forever in November
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>>581899074
Sure did. I guess I'm cautiously optimistic about Starcraft, but if it turns into an Extraction Shooter, I'm gonna be disappointed.
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>>581899970
Its gonna be like helldivers or space marine 2. No fuckin way they make an rts in 2030 dude
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I just ruined Retail with my frickin mind
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>>581899970
it'll be a ripoff of space marine, maybe with an open world or some bullshit too

no way is anyone touching extraction shooters after Maraflop
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>>581900073
Yeah I'm aware they're not doing a strategy game, which is its own disappointment because there's kind of a massive plot thread lingering that could've easily made a Starcraft 3, but god forbid those writers catch on.
Still, if they're going for a shooter, there's sub categories of shooter that I'd rather they avoid.
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>>581900073
>Helldivers or Space Marine 2.
They got the Far Cry guy in charge of the project. It's gonna be Far Cry
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>>581900097
Based. She knows what to do. The playerbase are morons that want ugly ass playable orges and nagas. She'll just put in more sexy female elves, since other races are shit
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The Starcraft shooter is getting cancelled. The Chief Jeet at Xbox is doing what she did with their not-E3 stream this year, announce games and then shut down the studios making them a week later. More Indian talent will backfill support for existing games as needed.
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>>581899970
why are extraction shooters bad?
i don't think i've ever played one but they seem kind of neat as a concept
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>>581899829
I want to see the empty hof when they release.2
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>>581900714
won't happen
bored neets will just make alt guilds to fill it out, they're all running splits anyways
used to be a thing when the alliance was dying off
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>>581900097
It's payback for EQ.
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>>581900627
If Ion gets replaced by an Indian, I would laugh so hard. Please make this happen God
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>>581900853
I doubt they are going to care this time
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>>581901090
who on the retail team could actually replace ion without catching the most heat?
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they're already struggling to get patches out on time anymore, with layoffs this whole thing might just implode all because they aren't making infinity+1 dollars every quarter
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>>581900097
her nose
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>>581901269
This is like the 4th time this kike report the massive blizzard layoffs lmao
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>>581901269
if they fire the right people I unironically think wow could be saved

Release a patch every 3 months instead of 8 weeks, fire half the people and get a director with a singular vision, no more council
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>>581901664
no we need more people like

>>581890960
>>581890075

working on the game
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>>581901090
>>581901260
>>581901269
>>581901664
Surprise, surprise the kike was wrong
MS is going for xbox
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>>581898150
They fit the game+factions a lot better than skelves
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>>581901951
they could get rid of the entirety of halo studios ez
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>>581901216
that's because you're a moron who thinks he has it all figured out
newsflash: you don't, moron
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>>581902165
Stay mad dumb tranny
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i spent the day leveling my bm hunter and i feel slightly more retarded than before
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>>581901951
Isn't this just wave 2 of the layoffs they started earlier in the year?
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>>581902202
oh i'm not mad, i'm very excited
in three months time i'm going to be validated when your meme server goes belly up
its going to be glorious
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>>581898150
This looks more like a faux ps1 asset than a vanilla asset.
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>>581900628
They've got the sort of gameplay loop that gets real old real fast, because there's barely any sort of variety to them. You can only do so much to your own personal loadout to switch things up, very rarely does the game itself offer much in the way of that when it bases its entire premise on that genre.
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>>581902284
maybe I'm retarded but I don't know why these layoffs are "bad". The studios are all producing terrible shite and every company is bloated with people.

It sucks that people are losing their job but also Microsoft can't keep them around forever
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>>581902324
Who gives a shit about retail lite lmao? This raid is too fucking hard and blizzard fucked the loot so people are done with this season. Forever is not related to the failure of s2.
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>>581895413
My guild can't get lower than 50%
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>>581902490
They're not. The fact MS let 343 do quite literally nothing by run the Halo IP into the dirt for all those years really proves they need to prune almost everything.
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>>581902584
well thats a fair critique but you should never underestimate the feeling of validation mystic trannies get when they can see their name twice in the HoF
they're going to raid for six months anyways
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>>581902590
Not even after the two exposed sneed phases?!
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>>581901951
Anon, ABK is under Xbox
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>retail is currently in it's worst spot since Shadowlands
>everyone is moving to Forever
>most people will likely quit Forever
>I very much doubt they'll come back when we only have 12.2 or Wrath Remix to offer

It's over bros
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>>581903014
>most people will likely quit Forever
Yeah but after a few solid months of playing and most of them boughted the bluepig
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>>581902845
Yeah. I guess we do get it below 50 a bit into phase 3 but the lowest we've gotten going into phase 3 was 52. We got to the final platform once but not the final burn and the boss was at 38%.
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>>581903014
And now mass layoffs.
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>>581903212
That's really bad bro like not even a 10% hp would help your guild you guys need 20 more ilvl and jesus.
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>>581903298
Look, can we agree to fire all of not343 first before Blizzard gets hit?
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how come wowg won't discuss the blowjobs given out at blizzcon

there was a video on twitter and everything
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>>581903819
Fucking 343 killed halo so hard mattel cancelled the mega construx line before the modular sets release...
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>>581903948
>there was more bjs than retail news at blizzcon

noticing
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>>581903958
I'm still honestly impressed that they couldn't even remake a Halo game properly, let along just trying to copy the homework of the successful ones in the end. All those years and for nothing, but hey, at least MS funded them all those years with almost no expectations and no limits to the shittery they committed.
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>>581903948
Uh link?
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>watching the poddyc
>dratnos and max said people are not smelly but there was a massive fart cloud
Imagine the smell
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>>581901951
>annouce diablo 5 and starcraft far in the future
>fire all the women
>start working on the games with some peace and quiet

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if we could move the release date up a year if this was the case
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So they're killing off Liadrin because of the criticisms on how they made her look in the Midnight cinematic, and now some woman is very upset and jealous enough to kill the pretty elf lady off right?
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>>581904659
that was really funny
i didn't get the bit about how holly has "aura" tho
that made no sense to me, shes goofy at best
i don't dislike her but ya
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>>581905253
honestly everyones gotta go, there isn't one likeable member of the main cast
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>2 1% pulls on altar
GOD FUCKING DAMNIT I NEED THIS MOTHERFUCKERS
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>>581905510
Anyone and everyone that has had more than 10 minutes of screen time this expansion is a colossal fucking idiot.
The only passable dude is Alonsus Faol, and only when he's not talking to Arator specifically.
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>>581905253
She survived the fight.

>>581905470
Not aura but literally every other mc had negative stage presence so she looked really good overall.
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>>581904085
Master chief collection is good(finally). That's about it. Everything else is mediocre at best.

Games got to copy whatever it is Nintendo does with Mario. Change it very slightly to keep it fresh and new. A new power up. A new enemy type. Nu Halo is like a totally different game. Mario still is the same running right and jumping on shit to kill it.

I think wow changed too much and became another game. That doesn't mean classic or forever is good. That shit is stale and old. Forever in a couple years maybe will be fresh and new, but still wow. It's just wow remastered right now. Microsoft loves demakes and remasters.
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new
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Someone bake a proper wowg, I'm not posting in a retarded furry thread.
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>>581909547
Okay, see ya.



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