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>Blizzard's new version of World of Warcraft, based on vanilla WoW
>Set in the same Azeroth but expanded upon with new zones, dungeons, raids, quests and much more
>Many new race/class combos including Undead Paladin and Dwarf Shaman
>More than 1k quests added making a 25% increase in quest content alone

>Talent Calculator
https://forevertalents.up.railway.app

>When is it being released?
November 4th

>Beta Guilds
Type /who g-"Guild name" to see who's online, whisper anyone for an invite, or ask in thread.
<wowfg> - PvP, Horde, crossregion but will be on EU on release
<Little Space> PvP, Alliance, crossregion but will be on NA on release

>Old
>>581821409
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>>581832414
<Reticulated Splines>
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when do battle grounds open?
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God I fucking love sex elves.
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>>581832469
>no zeppelin from Thunderbluff to Orgrimmar
>no boat to stormheedle so you need to run/fly to the desert to get to the new Riverglade area for Horde

>stormwind habor only goes to auberdine
>you still need to take the tram and fly to menethil harbor to get to southshore or theramore
I'm actually pleasantly surprised. They resisted the urge to trivialize the journey
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Reminder that we will not have to deal with bot farms inflating the price of Black Lotus anymore! We are free!
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Strongest 1v1 class?
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Once again my superiority has led to some controversy.
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why are these threads so fucking fast I literally can't keep up with them. I went to do something else for 20 minutes and there was like 200 new posts wtf.
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>>581829903
You will never be as immersed as him
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>>581833238
The only thing that can save Forever.
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>>581833219
Because Forever is dead on arrival so there's nothing to talk about except shitpost and goon to porn.
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>>581833198
>50 gold
what the fuck is black lotus used for? And that's actually a really clever way of introducing price caps
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I WILL play warlock and I WILL summon everyone, because I like to help others.
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>see long blue cape, looks really cool
>notice guy wearing it is pretty low level
>inspect, look up cape
>it's a skyborne-only long cape you can get at level 7 with a simple "go yap at NPCs nearby" quest
Wow, skelfs really are just the retailbabby race
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>>581833198
but weren't bot farms deflating it?
Also just 50g for an arcane crystal is bullshit
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>>581833201
warlock
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>>581833187
i have an extreme love/hate relationship with you anon. On one hand i hate you for giving me a hardon every fucking thread with your AIslop and on the other hand i like you because the threads would feel empty without you. Fuck off but also keep going !
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>>581833206
I bet his armpits smell crazy and cock and balls and ass all smell crazy *jerk s off*
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>>581833265
the fuck am I looking at
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>>581833189
you can just go to Auberdine, walk accross the dock and get to Menethil from there
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>>581833265
retail is so zesty
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Can i play as a 2h pala big sword fuckass plate armor mowing down mobs helping other peeps?
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strengthening my bond with my hunter's pet through RP! and allowing tauren men to help themselves with her
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Who thought it was a good idea to give Alliance Skelfs a racial that is useless on almost half of the classes they have available?
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>>581833390
Calm yourself, citizen.
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>>581833395
dude playing on his controller
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>>581833345
skelfs get a hidden trader that gives them full blue gear after lvl 11 i wish i was kidding
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>>581833189
Can someone redo this with the actual locations instead of these squares somewhere near to the actual locations
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>>581833238
>somewhat decent body proportions
Sorry anon, this is nublizzard. The face needs to be extra cutesy and animu, and the hands and feet need to be AT LEAST 3 times larger. Also make the legs so comically short that armor textures look horribly scrunched on them.
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why are there two threads
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>>581832154
>no drop threat button
Warlocks now have build in 20% threat reduction and both factions have 30% from paladins. Surely 50% will be enough in Forever for them to not have to worry as long as the tank is good?
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>>581833468
why?
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>>581833443
me when skelves
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>>581833337
my fucking hero
I'll be there to click because I only join groups when I can get there in a reasonable amount of time
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>friends want to play Alliance
>I want to play Undead
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>>581833328
Flasks bro, fdym ?
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How do we feel about the Alliance getting Dalaran and Horde getting nothing?
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>>581833328
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>>581833564
making me switch over to alliance
the anti social faction
sadly
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>>581833564
>How do we feel about the Alliance getting Dalaran and Horde getting nothing?
based
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>>581833381
It's not my slop. I just save it on occasion when I'm relaxing and perusing the threads on my phone (hence the resolution is always nerfed). If I see a new thread when it comes up I make sure to let everyone know how much I love sex elves. I think the slopgod who makes them has made at least 10x the number that I've actually saved.
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>>581833050

Is there any way to making scrolling combat text show more than just damage taken? Not seeing it in any options
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>>581833503
There isnt, the other is wowg
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>>581833571
wtf it SUCKS now
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>>581833483
Insane. I am desperately hoping Blizzard is just treating Skyborne as the retard containment race so that dumbfucks can play a classic-like experience too without having to use their brain at all, but I'm worried that skelfs are instead just a sign of what's to come.
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>>581833367
alliance
hardcore poopsock parse raids
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>>581833219
A lot of shitposters. You can tell by the fact majority of the comments are either bad bait, screenshots of some social media comment, links to whatever parasocial streamer that just went live, or seething retoilets
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>>581833265
I need a fucking source for this please
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>>581833654
both probably retailbabbies are getting eased into classic mode with that
its just gonna be on wheels for them soon
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>>581833564
they seem to be setting up the earthen ring as a counterpart to the kirin tor, so I expect they will have some kind of settlement. yeah it might be more mud huts but that's classic horde.
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>>581833219
>wasn't here for 2019 threads
you don't know what's fast.
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Where do I go to gank some alliance players in beta
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>>581833265
That was my RP set on my death knight for the longest time kek
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>>581833564
You mean Alliance gets Dalaran and Horde gets a new world pvp location
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>>581833618
where is the classic thread?
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>>581833198
doesnt this just mean bots will camp the vendor too and buy them out?

Like just increase the spawn or do what turtle did and you have a chance to get them from high end herbs.
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What profession is a real money maker? Alchemist?
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>>581833767
hillsbrad
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>>581833187
Make sexelf going down a water slide
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>>581833827
Just buy gold.
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>Mankrik's wife is dead in this timeline as well
Poor guy
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>>581832675
i have a heap of super-edgy, and very clever names that never got banned.

Here's one that i was very proud of, that DID get added to the perma-ban list though.

I leveled him up to 60 in last-phase classic vanilla, and got to play him all the way through TBCC, many great reactions were had, and then in wrath classic, a bunch of alliance trannysfers to horde, and the retoilet refugees, mass reported me like pussies, without ever saying anything directly, and the name got perma-banned. Alliance confirmed soicunt faction btw
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Is anyone else vibecoding their own wow overlays that replaced all the banned addons?
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>>581833827
Herbalism/mining/skinning
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they should have had mankrik's wife tell you to look for mankrik
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>Pets have different attack speeds like in Classic
>But pets actually get stats from you now including AP, meaning faster pets will benefit even more
Hope you're prepared to camp broken tooth for 6 months anons!
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>>581833819
You can obviously see the vendor doesn't have a limited quantity, it's an infinite amount.
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What are the odds we get more undead customization options? As much as I can't stand retail, and as much as I hate the art style of them, the body decay options for undead as well as that upright posture they showed off years ago looks so good.
It's a shame that we're constantly reminded how visually diverse undead are meant to be and yet we never get to actually engage in that visual customization ourselves.
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>>581833827
The gathering ones.
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Alex's reaction to the end of the Sky Tranny zone was ludo kino
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Reminder!
Mental illness (loon)->Porn addiction (goon)->Transition (troon)->Need to reproduce (Nonce).
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>was considering maining disc priest
>no one knows if the absorb shields still fuck over the tanks rage gen
How has no one definitively tested this yet? Tons of retards arguing that it does or doesn't.
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Will people on RP servers pretend like the world is going to end when beta approaches its end? Would be funny and RP-friendly IMO
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>not playing druid
missing out
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So what's the dwarf shaman population like, are there millions or do they seem not insanely popular
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>>581833909
I mean...maybe it's better off that way. Look at this fucking thing.
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>>581833909
They should have switched them.
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>>581833731
This is post-hack, anon. These threads are remarkably fucking fast when you consider that. The site hasn't been the same since.
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>>581833767
Ashenvale
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>>581833938
No, I'm slightly above shit at the game and so have no need to install cheats.
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>>581833187
Me too senpai, me too.
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>>581834038
It doesn't anymore
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>>581834053
We out here
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I preordered for name reservations
Are you forced into having a last name?
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>>581834073
what did the hack do besides force people to use reddit again for a month
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>>581834043
there are no RP servers on the beta, just one pve and one pvp for the whole world
>>581834054
never going to be enough resto shamans on alliance
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>>581834053
old druid bear model is so ugly...
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>>581833961
oh im retarded, i read unlimited as limited. Still should lower the price to 25g or some shit, 50g is bleh
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>>581833909
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should I go tailoring/enchanting or alchemy/herbalism? pvp ally mage
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>>581834060
huh, I never knew she was Mankrik's wife, that's cool
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>>581834170
Yes
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>>581834147
for every comment across the internet I have searched saying it doesn't, there's one saying it does. Have you actually tested it or seen a source from someone who tested it?
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>>581834053
>not playing the "i need to be able to do everything because i am an ADHD riddled zoomer with an inferiority complex" class
yes.
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>massive druid cope about bear being the best tank
ror
rmao
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>>581833189
Dalaran is a thing now?
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I was torn between Tauren and NElf.
Tauren are really cool and you get to see nordrassil from org. Nelves are kind of lamer but look good in gear.
The deciding factor is that with no cross-faction grouping, I'm going to have to be alliance to group with Gnome babes.
I'm still picking between warrior and druid. When goblin is added to horde, I'll make a tauren of the class I didn't pick.
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>>581834053
I feel like the only person that’s realized you can go to the barber and change what your form looks like
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>hate foreverslop
>miss barrens like a maniac
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>>581834239
Link?
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>>581833708
a ton of retail players already play classic, there is no "easing in"

its just a cashgrab, no further thought needed
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>>581834265
I'm getting a refund, then
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>>581833819
>Like just increase the spawn
the issue with that is that increase supply will crash the price, they dont want that they want to make a point at which you can just buy them from a vendor, meaning the AH price will always be 49g99s and if it goes above that people will just use the vendor instead.

Its about enforcing a ceiling on the price to prevent Spic/Asian gold farmer cartels from buying out the market and scalping. There will be nothing for them to scalp, because the vendor will always exist. It'll be cheaper to buy of AH, cus sellers will be competing to move their goods, but anytime it crosses 50g then people will just go to the vendor until the price comes back down.
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>>581834121
I'm happy for you anon good job!
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when are they sending keys to keep up the population
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>>581834291
>Dalaran is a thing now?
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>>581833909
what about his wife son though?
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>>581834293
Based shortstackGOD
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>>581834163
>>581834201
ok now this is epic
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I'm hopeful about Forever but most of these dungeons are rubbish. Not because "too Retail", the maps themselves are just rushed and empty. The Hall of Thanes map feels like datamined content.
Maybe that's forgivable, depending on how small their team was and their deadlines. Maybe they just ran out of time.

But why are content creators slobbering over garbage? I don't mean the shills or retailers. People who admit that Skyborne suck will claim that Hall of Thanes is a great dungeon and "embodies Classic". The fuck it does. Effort, personality, and creativity was put into most vanilla dungeons. Rushed crap like Molten Core was the exception not the general rule.
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>>581833198
>no righteous orbs
>no enchanting mats
>fucking over poopsocking lotus/arcane crystal farmers
yep, it's perfect
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how the fuck can I not make this route from thunderbluff to ratchet but it's fine for org
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>name mocking charlie kirk is fine
>name mocking fent floyd? permab& and beta access revoked
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>>581834275
No I'm just repeating what I've heard
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>>581834505
Welcome to the new world order.
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>>581834171
Substantially reduced the amount of activity on the site across nearly every board. Some more than others, to be fair. /a/ for example was hit a lot harder than /vg/, but it's still a meaningful difference.
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>shards aren't stackable
>no closet
>no cookie jar (this ones not a big deal)
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>>581834053
WTF is that model real?? Looks so bad
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>>581833938
I'm thinking about it. The auto dps retail was really useful.
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>>581834505
I laughed at georgefloyd canbreath
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>>581834505
yes
no one cares about the kirkening some people care about fent floyd
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>>581833938
please list all the banned addons.

Weakauras i hope to FUCK is banned, cancerous addon, despite how useful it could be for certain things.

But i loved my og UI addons Zperl/Fperl whatever its called, Recount over details, leatrix plus i guess.
VoiceOver is also a ridiculously kino addon that everyone should have, i hope they update it for forever though.
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aaand its gone
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>>581834384
yeah unironically like Ok youve had your early access weekend, now give me my beta key.
I am simply not going to pay for a month of acess to beta server, if you want me to playtest it and report bugs and shit you either pay me as a tester or at least just let me in for free, I have too much self respect to pay to be a tester.
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>>581834557
>closet
some of these retoilet demands are just so fucking outrageous and shameless. Get out.
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>>581834505
St. Floyd got a national televised funeral
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Level. Your. Sex. Elf.
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>>581834201
Enable HD models to use the new ones.
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>>581834505
How do you know the charlie kirk ones aren't getting banned?
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>>581834289
>bear is just warrior but better
>paladin will still be the raid and dungeon janitor that tanks trash
its not unlikely unless they add death knights or something
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>>581834275
just find a warrior and throw a shield on him and see if getting attacked generates rage
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>>581834505
Did the first one really not get banned?
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>>581834505
>one was a sort of scummy black guy turned into a martyr postmortem
>the other was a media whore saying that my friends getting stoned to death is ‘god’s perfect law’
bit different don’t you think?
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I kinda like the anti soul gas in dense areas like forests.
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>no priest for skelfs
>no sd option for skelfs
How the fuck am I supposed to healslut with this class if you've locked me to dr*id and sh*man, AND I'm stuck with the made-by-an-unpaid-intern-tranny HD models???
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Set shadows to LOW to activate the real new lighting

Yes im not kidding

https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/1wmcmlg/turn_shadow_quality_to_low_for_better_quality/

Bottom pic is LOW shadows
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>>581834616
https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/classicui-forever
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<wowfg> on PvP Horde
7 online
https://streamable.com/r5tg6w
whisper anyone for ginvite: /who g-"wowfg"
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>>581834481
Because ratchet only connects to crossroads
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I kinda like tight skelf boy ass wrapped around my green cock.
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>>581834552
do people still think the site is down or something? hopefully it was all third worlders who never came back
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>>581834708
I WANT TO THEY WONT LET ME REEE
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>>581834657
Needing to use 10 shards to summon 10 people is unreasonable and you know it.
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>>581833198
>50g arcane crystal

it should be at least 100g wtf
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>>581834880
Why does the AI always give them big veins on the tits?
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>>581834859
but why
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>>581834053
>Love how druid plays and its "class fantasy"
>Hate never seeing my character model/armor
And no I'm not healing, I want to tank. But I'll miss hanging out with my druid bros in moonglade.
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>>581834841
testing

this is current shadows on ultra
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>>581834841
The top seems more fitting for being under the forest canopy?
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>>581834841
lmao did they fuck the options?
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>>581834791
the fog would be way cooler if it grew and receeded based on water in the area and time of day. Like morning and evening would be densest but middle of the day would be lightest.
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>>581834878
do i really need to send feet pics on discord to not get kicked?
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>>581834610
Well, I'm mainly talking about weakauras, and combat logging, and complex cool down tracking. I already have a very good external combat logging setup
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I've never played wow, would forever be a good version to start with?
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>>581835101
Absolutely not.
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>>581834826
You can healslut as druid or shaman? Maybe roll a nelfie or humie?
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>>581835101
absolutely
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>>581834880
Wait are you just genning these? Cause you didn't tell me what video that previous one was from
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>>581835101
dire. just cut your losses at this point
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>>581835101
absolutely maybe
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>>581835101
It's the best version to start as a new player
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>>581835083
theres no discord we just play world of warcraft forlo
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>>581835101
yeah sure
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>>581835056
Can you post settings, thanks. My game looks fucking ugly compared to this.
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>>581835101
Absolutely maybe
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>>581835056
low shadows

>>581835058
>>581835060
in terms of clarity in dark areas maybe?
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>>581835101
best time to try it out
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are mining nodes single hit or multi hit in forever?
I barely did classic and have forgotten, but I remember mining being like 2-5 "mines" per node in vanilla to get all the ore.
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Why can't I install?
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>>581834928
No the 3rd worlders were back instantly.
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>>581835101
the train has sailed
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>>581835101
pretty much the best time since its gonna be a whole new game and no one is gonna know what the meta strats will be.
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>>581834928
>do people still think the site is down or something?
People lost trust and stopped coming back. There was already very little left to justify trusting the site in the first place. But the perceived safeguard of anonymity being completely broken (even if it was never real in the first place) was enough to drive people away.
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>>581834841
The problem with setting shadows to low is that it also disables pretty much all shadows. So you won't get the shadows from the sun shining through trees for example. And at least on my PC (I was messing around with the settings in Northshire) also causes the light from the sun to shine through mountains and walls, and it makes the light from the sun really bright orange.
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>>581835248
Restart bnet
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>>581834201
Them not implementing the wrath models as the SD forms is a huge oversight, imho.
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>>581834657
>retail
It was added in WotLK. Is that unironically retail in your eyes?
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>>581834207
youll be able to buy them off the ah for less than 50g, its just a guarantee that the price wont spiral out of control
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>>581835243
DESU I think Undercity looks worse on low shadows. look at the skull above the bank and you can see it completely loses it's edge shadows that help give it a bit more depth. Also the scene became a lot greyer but that could be because of the fog, idk
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>>581835248
because you didnt pay blizzard 60 euro for beta access and another 15 euro subscription fee
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>>581834841
Doesnt seem like it
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>>581833198
>>581834478
>>581834998
Are you all noobs? You do realize bots will inflate any gold farming method, right?
If it's not farming mats, it'll be something else, because there will always be a way to make gold, whether it's legit or through an exploit like DM tribute runs.
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>>581835302
i guess less retards is never a bad thing
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>Asmon is playing
>we’re gonna infest everything
Does this faggot know how butthurt he sounds when he does shit like this? “None of my friends from the last time I played still want to associate with me so I’m going to make this as bad as possible for everyone else.” Unironically more entitled and delusional than the troons he hates on for griftbux.
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>>581835135
Druid and shaman are disgusting and shouldn't even have a healer option. shitter classes get away from my playstyle reeee
Likely will just roll a humie though. Nelfs are okay but tall is incompatible with sexelf.
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>>581835382
go to barber
click cat form
hit random
go to character
hit Done
you now have the better cat form
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HAHAHAHAHA THE GUARDS AT DALARAN AGGRO AND TELEPORT YOU OUT IF YOU TRY TO RUN PAST
AHHAHAAHUWEUJAWENBIUABWEUABWE
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>>581835374

Didn't work.
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warriors bad
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>>581835234
at 4k mind you
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What class and race should I play if I am literally a cuckold in real life?
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>>581835451
>the bots are going to sell gold on the AH
retard
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>>581835382
Nobody is using SD models after a week when all you schizo tourists leave.
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>>581834826
Of the HD models the blood elf ones aren't that much different than the SD ones
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>>581835579
Human priest
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>>581835248
You need beta access, so pay for the epic edition or get a key somehow
>>581835442
I think you don't need an active subscription for the beta
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I really don't get why they went to all this effort to add HD models as an option but stuff like bears and cats and random mobs out in the wild still use their old vanilla models.
No I'm not complaining and asking for the nu models everywhere, it just seems like a really weird thing to do after forcing HD models and the big world updates that hunters are still running around with their 3 polygon bear pets.
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>>581835437
i dont see any difference between fair and ultra high shadows honestly
not even a framerate dip lol
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>>581834053
how do you make a character with no last name, or can you toggle hide last name?
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>>581834841
thats because youre in a fucking forest. turning down shadows to low essentially removes the shade from the trees and all the light flolws down. this also seems to include roofs.
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>>581833519
feels like they buffed VW for solo'ing like crazy, id have to get ridiculously lucky w/crits to pull anything off him and even then torment would pull it right back (unless i got hyperspawned), drain tanks are eatin good rn with full pack pulls
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>>581833187
can nai do those elves but charcoal grey/black/drow skinned with platinum blonde hair?
might have to spend some shekels then
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>>581835579
Human Male Paladin
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>>581834552
Yeah, but anime hasn't been good since the 2000s, whereas there's plenty to talk about regarding video games. Makes sense that board would be dead; the medium is dead.
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should I name my guild <dwagon swayers>
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>>581835579
Tauren Druid
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>581835585
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>>581835008
Tit veins are awesome and Grok has good taste.
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>>581833938
im making an ocr combat logger its going to give me such an fking edge
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>>581835101
Better than playing retail for sure
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>>581835643
toggle
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I've never played WoW before but Forever has me interested. I've been looking at the available races and their zones to see what would be appealing. Am I correct in thinking that Horde is the chud faction?
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>>581835451
How does that affect me wanting to buy black lotus at a reasonable price point?
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>>581835684
Yes
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>>581835658
IT looks better albeit
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YOU LIERALLY CANNOT ENTER DALARAN IF YOU ARE NOT SKY ELF? WHAT IS THIS SHIT
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>>581835537
You can get into dalaran if you aren’t retarded. I got in yesterday
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>>581835634
1. Blizzard is retarded
2. Blizzard retardedly thinks mashing together Retail aesthetics into Classic will somehow get Retoids to play it longer than a week
3. They're inevitably going to update everything to Retail aesthetics without your consent since every single new thing they're adding is Retail aesthetics
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>>581835451
I'm just happy the necessities like flasks and crafted stuff will be affordable without poopsockers price gouging. You can go crazy with BoE gear or whatever.
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>>581833198
Turtle economy was so comfy with only 12g for arcane crystals...
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>>581835451
I'm saying that the cap is too low not that the cap shouldn't exist
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>>581835630
>You have to pay for beta access on top of already having a retail subscription.

Yeah no, fuck Forever, fuck Blizzard, and fuck anyone who actually plays this worthless piece of pozzed shit. I hope Forever goes EoS inside of six months. Fucking faggots.
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>>581835579
Male Gnome Mage
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>>581835563
why
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>>581835781
horde has nicer people
its like real life, shallow scum of the earth are attracted by pretty things, in this case, the Alliance
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>>581835781
horde is for supreme gentlemen wearimg no shoez
Alliance is for actual gigachads
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>>581835850
>>581835537
Retard
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>>581834438
is that guy really a homosexual or everything about his persona has to appeal to every group for him to get good boy points from blackrock?
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>>581835471
It would be, but the site is smellier and more brown than it's ever been.
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>>581835781
wow is a chud game as a whole
alliance is for chuds wanting to larp as paladins
horde is for chuds wanting to play the bad guys
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>>581835514
>Likely will just roll a humie though.
you can heal me.
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>>581835781
Horde is friendly af
Alliance are al egoistical fucks aka streamer chuds

dx11 or dx12? which one runs better
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>>581835992
>>581835861
i corpse walked in
but why make it like this? this is some snowflake shit
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>>581835658
Don't try reasoning with bloomheads
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>>581835912
>$30 for elves
>$15 sub included once the game launches
>$15 for beta access and goodies
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>>581835942
>horde has nicer people
Objectively fucking untrue.
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>>581835912
If you plan on getting the new race anyway you're already down from the 60 bucks to only 30. If you subtract the 30 day playtime from it you are already at 17 bucks only. It's not that bad of a deal
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>>581836003
its just part of his edgy gamer persona
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>>581835941
rage generation is changed and nerfed
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HOW DO I TRANS MOGG
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>>581836003
lurk ten years before posting
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>>581835101
well retail is a weird ultrasweaty endgame only lobby game with a million things frontloaded for you to learn and classic era is officially dead so i think any choice beyond forever is kinda odd
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Holy fishpaste.
I think Priests should have a -0.5 GCD on their Renew for no particular reason, like Druids.
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>>581836076
were dwarf feet always his hairy?
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>>581835382
Vanilla forms are the best
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Are druids good healers?
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>>581836123

I will kill myself before I pay for a bunch of retarded trooned-out nigger faggot Smurf elves.
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>>581836152
by being a woman
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Did Esfand really take Ozempic?
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>>581836104
+tip
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>>581836212
we don't know, the game is not out yet
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>>581836152
talk to npc
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>>581836207
They look like cartoony and lame.
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>1 filtered post
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>>581836269
>has free fuck you money from retarded goycattle simps
>is fat
>wants to get fit
Yes, they all do
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>>581834708
Im level 18
Almost there
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Does this shit run on an ARM-based MacBook?
is there going to be a /vg/ guild?

I haven't played wow since nostalrius and I kind of miss it.
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I dislike gnomes on principal but I can't stop myself from play short stacks and gobs won't be in for a long time probably
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>>581836214
Just pay the $30 and play them anon. It’s pretty fun and not everything from retail is bad.
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>>581836059
o- okay...
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>>581836212
all healers are good
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>>581836359
Female gnomes can be sexo
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>>581836323
You are describing the wotlk and retail forms
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>>581836371
Fuck you
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>>581836214
You tell him, sis!
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>>581836269
obv
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>>581836212
all women are queens
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>>581836319
there is no transmog npc
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>sex elves didn't get any new class combos
Let me play a nelf warlock you fucking niggerfaggots
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>>581836071
you have to do the dungeon which sets you as friendly with kirin tor (for alliance, noshoes not welcome)
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>>581836482
Including trans women!
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Asmonbros.... How THE FUCK am I supposed to keep up with his wow content now?? He's playing everyday for like 5 hours
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>>581836359
>liking WoW gobs
Blizzard's raging hardon for giving them ridiculously massive hands and feet with almost nonexistant legs completely ruins them.
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>>581835634
The old visuals are only in to bait classicfags into playing. It's going to be too much work to make new assets for both. They also gave you an option in WoD until later on when it was made mandatory.
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>>581833959
that's not how AP works
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>>581836359
I prefer goblins 100% cause that green skin makes me rabid. I understand the love though, my wife is a 5ft puerto rican.
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>>581836353
Yes but it got issues on macos currently

WHAT THE FUCK
>>581836539
Have it in the background while playing
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you guys are all absurd faggots
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>>581835795
>How does that affect me wanting to buy black lotus at a reasonable price point?
Because ultimately, you'll be playing an MMO with an economy ruined by bots, to the point where the game is no longer worth playing.
Retail has already shown that player churn increases when people feel like progression and endgame items can simply be bought.
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>>581836581
wtf since when do the coin graphics have that little texture on them? aren't they supposed to just be flat colors?
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>this general is unironically full of incels, trannies and liberal retards

Whew I remember WoW classic was full of bro tier servicemen and EQ Veterans. How far we have come as a society.
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>>581836483
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>>581836507
its not in yet then?
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>>581836620
y-you too
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>>581836371
>not everything from retail is bad.
It's crazy to say but yeah it really is. Literally nothing ive ever seen from retail has ever looked good. Story, zones, gameplay, class design, content, items, artwork, quests, dungeons, raids, all of it. We really do need to be vigilant.
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>>581831459
Thank you anon.
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>>581836195
Yeah, that talent is really fucking underwhelming for what it's intended to do. Holy Priests got noticeably less love than the other 4 healing specs.
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>>581833265
holy cinema
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Do the /vg/ guilds ever host goon sessions?
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>>581836653
The Classic general was on life support for various reasons and got cannibalized into this one. Probably 75% of the posters here are Retail trannies or just general tourists
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peepeepoopoo
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>>581835510
gives off alexensual deviate delight villain arc energy
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>>581836212
You can't stack them unlike Hpallies and Rshamans.

In vanilla you'd only bring one (1) druid for MotW in a full 40 man raid. There is nothing in Forever which changes that, beside MAYBE a new raid fight requiring heavy Decurses and even then you'd rather bring a Boomie or Feral for that.
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>>581836507
zugzugs going to be raiding dalaran 24/7 when they find out it's ally only
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>>581836670
where
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>>581835781
in my experience playing all the way through classic, TBCC and Wrath classic, and SoDomy, Horde are the more gigachud faction by far.

Alliance is filled with redditors, troons and limp wristed faggots of all sorts. My worst experiences with snide, cowardly backstabbing cunts was with alliance transfer guilds onto horde. Insufferable cunts who will never say a word to you directly if they have a problem, but will bitch to the high heavens in /w with their communal circle-cunt.
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redpill me on <Little Space> /wowfg/ guild. is it gonna be full of furries, gooners and nons-Whites?
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>>581836884
blud no one is turning down a healer for muh optimal raid comp lol
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>>581836938
>There is a Transmog NPC in Mage's district in Stormwind. She's a night elf that sort of hangs out behind the mage tower (opposite side of where the staircase starts).
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>>581836765
holy pala got its most important talent nerfed by half
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Femlala here. Does this have nude body mods yet?
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>>581833198
wtf? I love comunism now!
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>>581836938
do you have some sort of parental control lock on google, anon?
>>581837083
fuck off back to your troon conversion game
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>playing warlock
>great at 1v1
>groups of people spot me in the distance and chase me to the ends of the earth and I can't possibly do anything 1v5
>play rogue
>not as great powerlevel wise
>get to stroll around in stealth and take my pickings of fights that I can win
Seems like Rogue is the clear winner here.
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I love night elves but god do I hate the drunk retard sway they do in combat. Why is he holding the shield like that?
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Idk about you guys, but ever since that post about people with bad names losing beta access, I've been reporting any remotely offensive name I've seen. Hoping I can make some retard seethe for losing their beta access.
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>>581837054
Maybe in your boomer dadgamer guild which took 3 hours to clear MC. Real guilds only ever brought one druid out of 40.
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what should i call my girls only guild?
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>>581836884
b ress and innvervate
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>>581835101
Absolutely the best, literally the first version of WoW + rebalance and extra content.
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>>581836675
dungeon is lvl 25+, no idea if they will turn it on in the beta or not
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>>581837220
Sisters of the Sisterhood
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>pve realm
>guild searching for light rp people
Isnt this against tos or something
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WERE ARE THE WORLD PVP EVENTS
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>>581837183
>sit down to get mp back for a few seconds
>right near boss, facing it, clearly about to attack it
>some faggot rogue darts by and hits it, kills them all
>runs up to me, wiggles
>george floyd name
easiest report of my life :^)
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>>581836884
Have you actually looked at their talent tree? Restoration is substantially better than it is in Classic. In fact, it looks exceptional.
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>>581834060
Is that Shadowlands? That whole thing was such a shitshow story and theme-wise. From the simple savannah fields and mudhuts in the Barrens, she's now in a 14th century eastern-european gothic vampire castle.
Absolute slop
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>>581836885
horde chimpouts are to be expected no matter what happens
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>>581837220
<Azeroths Favorite Princesses>
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>>581833198
>>581837108
People will still buy gold. Check out picrel. You think they will totally wait and farm the gold organically to buy their
>rivendares mount
or
>that one preraid bis item they are missing
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>>581836793

Almost as bad as retailers in WoWF asking in trade chat when they are adding “X” retail shit into the game.
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>>581837170
It’s like 6 months till the next xpac… I’ll play gnome priestess ~
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Motherfuckers fishing in radioactive waters
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https://www.wowhead.com/forever/item=267369/wolfsbane

Pally bros, get this at lvl 18
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>>581837202
>we cant clear mc in under an hour because we took 2 resto druids
sounds like an immense skill issue. there were also plenty of "real guilds" bringing 1 resto and still taking 3 hours to clear because the average metafag is actually dogshit at the game more times than not
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>>581833350
No, bots were hoarding them to drive up the price
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you think i can do fire hardened mail?
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Does AI voice addon work for Forlo yet?
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>>581836884
You'd bring 2 druids dude.
1 resto with motw spec and 1 feral offtank who also offhealed.
Unless it was a gigasweat speedrun guild anyway. Even they don't like wasting gear drops though
If you don't bring the feral you are just wasting gear drops.
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>>581837437
it looks so fucking bad and I love everything else about the new graphics
I thought the first SS I saw of it was just a bug
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>>581837220
<Holes>
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>respec costs 1g
>dont have 1g
me fucked up
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>>581837173
Male nelf is literally the worst alliance choice by a lot. But I think it looks cool for druid, because fem nelf is actually like even gayer somehow. Thankfully you just don’t have to play nelf in classic.
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>>581837517
What race + class does she play??
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ok made a tauren where nelf bitches at
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>>581837437
undercity water make me glad I don't plan to go noshoe this time around
what the fuck was blizz thinkinh
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>>581837517
average horde player
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>>581837517
nice but these niggas really need to bleach their assholes
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>>581837537
Unironically respecs before level 25 should be free
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>>581837517
Im not gay, but
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>you can abuse layering and get infinite Minerals
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>>581837559
Male night elves got butchered the hardest from their wc3 selves of all the playable races.
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>>581837517
saved
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>>581837516
I get what they were going for obviously but yeah it's way overtuned.
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>>581837517

>rolls a female fagborn priest named
“Heal Slut”
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>horde getting bodied on all layers everywhere
>have to sit in undercity and 20v1 a few alliance players trying to do a dungeon
writing's on the wall, horde is cooked on pvp servers
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>>581835781
horde is for communists and browns. Like a typical leftist party
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>>581837646
Theres no good talents before 25 anyways. It’s like the smallest increases possible. Unless you pick like the worst possible choice, stuff that only really helps at higher lvls.
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Jaina Proudwhore has a rape fetish….
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>>581837736
>priest
fagborns can't be priest because blizzard are cucks, unfortunately.
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Huh, I just noticed Faerie Fire can be used in druid forms and there isn't a specific feral version you have to learn anymore
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>>581837537
What will the respect cost cap at? Don't tell me it will be something retarded like 50g
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>>581837646
I'd say to to level 20, but yeah that's perfectly reasonable.
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>paladins dont get conc till level 20
>have to single target with seal of fury if you wanna tank any of the dungeons before that
what are we doing here?
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worth anything?
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>>581836425
This does not look like a realistic lion.
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Is it gay to play as a girl lads?
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>>581837796

Oh well then that changes everything
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>>581837517
So is this is an hrt zoomer or a thai tranny?
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Mount at 20 and 40 was a good change

I hate having to walk until 40
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>>581837814
get good
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>>581837842
yes 2 silver and 70 copper.
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>>581836974
https://arch.b4k.dev/_/search/text/Clover%20club%20grobbulus/
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>>581837842
im pretty sure the vendor in the main cities sells this too
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>>581837474
Imp MotW doesn't exist anymore

You retards cheered it on but it actually cuts yet another druid raid spot.
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>>581837842
Yeah about 2 silver and 70 copper I'd say.
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>>581837814
Modern mmo players everybody. Let’s give them a round of applause for paying the server fees, without this group of huge retards there’d be no more blizzard. Congrats, you’ve won.
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>>581837910
Yes, unless you play as a girl with a fat futa cock and plap my healslut female human
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>>581837814
ret aura
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>>581837814
at 16 you get righteous aura or whatever and the skill that lets holy damage generate threat so you can probably start at 16. thats what i'm doing.
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>>581837559
>But I think it looks cool for druid
Until you see the casting animation, though it's not a problem for feral.
I wanted to play a warrior one because I love the look, but I don't think I can stomach those animations for 60 levels, and as much as good as the new racials look it's not worth it. I'll probably end up making a skelf.
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>>581833564
name of girl???????????????????????
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>>581837998
I just think if I'm going to play as night elf the male ones look ugly
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is sydney sweeney horde or alliance coded?
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>>581837938

>not picking a bicycle race and/or class
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what's the least popular class ? rogue?
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>>581837969
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>>581837892
>realistic lion
Why should it? Yes it can surely be improved since it's clearly worse than the nelf cat which is one of the best models in vanilla. But the wotlk form is horrendous. Horns and claws both got shrunk down massively for no reason and the eyes look just plain ugly.
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>>581838126
Wart clock
>>
I’m not to caught up on elemental lore so feel free to enlighten me, I thought they all either hated other fleshy beings unless they had shamans or hardly ever pay any attention to them. How did a buncha Highborn pricks that didn’t become Druids like night elves make friends with air elementals?
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>>581833564
Name of boy??????
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>>581837938
No, 20 is when most classes get their mobility stuff. 30 is a good level.
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>>581836961
I more or less concur with this.

Ally definitely attracts the more normal players, and by normal I mean both normal people as well as liberal faggots. I've definitely seen plenty of 'chuds' on Ally though, was even in a guild where they yapped about Jews all the time.
The passive aggressive thing is definitely true. The amount of times I had some fucking queer in a dungeon bitching instead of just speaking like a man, or leaving, or whatever.
However Horde DEFINITELY attracts the "chud" crowd, which is going to range from screaming retards to people spamming nigger and getting everyone banned or people who are completely delusional about shit, then go for it.

Obviously there's exceptions on both sides but these days Horde is basically the faction if you're a teenager / manchild and Ally is the faction if you're an adult and are ok with dealing with the average normie internet liberal
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WHERE WARLOCK TANK SPEC??

I WANNA INSTANT DRAIN LIFE AT 40 YARDS WHILE MOVING AGAIN
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>>581838039
Instant casts look good, he raises his hand and it’s decent. Youre not suppose to be hardcasting wrath in basic form you fucking tard.
>>
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>>581837978
Hots stack now right? Thats what was keeping resto druids out of raids.
Boomies and cat dps are still shitters. People will still bring a feral to offtank
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>>581838234
go back to r*ddit, nobody wants to see your cringy cross-posts faggot.
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>>581838090
Is a successful hot blonde bimbo lined up with shoeless mudhut retards or with white mans empire?
Idk you tell me
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>>581838234
Retail players thinks mild criticism towards blizzard is the gravest sin.
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>>581838253
>Hots stack now right?
They don't.
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liberals should be tarred and feathered
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>>581838253
They do. That anon is a fucking retard who thinks this is still Classic for some reason. Probably still thinks there's a debuff cap on bosses, too.
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gathering professions comfily make money bros
i love it, its cozy walking from SW to lakeshire and gathering
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>>581838335
Pretty sure yes.
I know they can use potions and racial abilities in forms now
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I predict these threads will be lasting a week by January 1st 2027

I predict these threads will be non existent by June 1st 2027
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Is the AH screwed up right now? I can't see any suffixes of items.
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>i want to join little space
>im an unironic diaper troon
Just warning you guys now
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Does int improve spell dmg or is it just mana?
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niggers really forgot that nu-blizzard is still the one developing this
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>>581838096
Theyre actually like decent changes I guess. One of the significant problems of spell damage greens at lower levels is they have no stam. Stam is probably one of the strongest stats for every class. So these items ended up being purely for dungeons, but dungeons aren’t really interesting content. Or they might be an upgrade for ssf, but you’ll never really be happy with a pure spell damage green. Youd always prefer of the eagle, or even just pure stam.
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>>581838371
Sorry retard, I'm reporting every name I see that could be bannable. Enjoy losing your beta.
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>>581838436
i predict you guzzling a nigger cum tonight, faggot
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>>581838170
Well there had to be a first shaman at some point
From what I understand the Elements don't so much care who you are as long as you reach out to them and aren't a dickhead on the inside (Gul'Dan)
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>>581838436
Because wowfg will consume wowg and wowg will become wowrg
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>>581838460
its been broken since beta launch, any item with variable stats can't be viewed
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>>581838371
it was obviously going to happen man
blizzard's PR is on thin ice given the breast milking rooms
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how do weapons work on feral druids? Do they innately get bonus attack power based on weapon dps or not?
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>>581838550
Nobody in retail plays retail so it's really unlikely they'll play this either
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is human female warlock the most girl gamer combo?
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>>581838570
I hope blizzard employees get hit by a bus
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Anyone got a spare beta key? McDonalds promo is sold out..
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>spell damage hunter with the new pala spell power weapons and balance druid items
keep it or sneed it ?
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>bored at level 15

Yeah I’m too old to sit for hours and grind a retarded looking dwarf that LARPS as a hunter. (Can’t skin animals as a default class fantasy)
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>>581838642
no it's human priestess called Builtfor BBC as was established
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>>581838539
theres no need to get so upset you start speaking in broken english, its just a joke brownie
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>>581838642
druid hunter or priest
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>>581838371
>>581838661
>NOOO! I NAMED MY CHARACTER NIGGERKIKE KILLER WHY DID THIS HAPPEN TO ME?! BLIZZAAAAAARD!!!!!
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i play healer in retail but is healing fun in classic/forever? i like the feeling of needing to figure out the best tool for the job and am not sure if in classic you're mostly just spamming the same heal
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>>581837220
Transracist
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>>581838535
>>581838805
this you tranny?
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>>581835643
you can hide your last name but only for yourself, other people will still see your full name
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Little Space sounds retarded for a guild name, so Im not joining. Simple as.
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>>581838805
The better question is, why are they offended by a bad name? Are they 6? Why are liberals like this?
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>Chud tells me to go back to retail
>Report their username
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>>581838895
Nope, I too hate niggers and kikes, but I am a man with a healthy brain and I don't feel the need to act like an ape in a video game.
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>>581838234
what a pathetic steelman from classic+keks
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I'm in full blue gear and it still takes about the same amount of time to kill mobs as it did in Classic.
Feels like the items barely make a difference. What gives?
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>BUILT FOR BBC
>TROON TROON TROON
>HECKIN ILLEGALS
>I LOVE PEDOPHILES AND RAPISTS
Unfathomable that you people consider yourselves to be of higher genetic value.
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>>581837220
Foids Forever
>>581837524
kek

>>581838834
stay away from classic plus, just stay away, you retoilet junkies are the worst.
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I hope blizzard just goes all the way and says fuck you to the classic andies and stops catering to their no changes mental illness
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>>581838234
upvoted
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>>581838371
>>GAME RULES:
>>Don't say nigger.
>Anon: heh, nothin personnel kid, NIGGERNIGGERNIGGER
>>You have been banned.
>Anon: PEOPLE SHOULD BE KILLED FOR THIS INJUSTICE!
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>>581838998
>im a racist guys but i can't handle mean words in a wow player's name
you are not fooling anyone. You are bitchmade.
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Do you guys try to use names that would fit the lore or just anything?
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>>581839025

Can someone explain the origins of the diaperbaby meme?
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>>581838949
It's literal fetish shit. I'm a kinky motherfucker, but I'm not pathetic enough to brandish it as an unironic part of my guild name in an MMO. The people who join that guild should be ashamed, and the obvious tranny faggot who founded it should legitimately fucking kill himself.
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>>581838039
>until you see the casting animation

shut the FUCK up
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>>581839129
You are a child lmao
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>>581839098
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>>581839196
only on RP server
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>>581838628
Feral ends up farming manual crowd pummelers from gnomer for the on use. They don’t get any benefit from weapon damage or attack speed. It’s a really shit spec obviously, Druids like a pvp class I guess. It’s like a mage basically.
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>>581839098
you are a little bitch
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>>581838998
see
>>581838973
You pserver refugees are really retarded.
>>581839069
These are all nons. Idk if you've noticed but the vast majority of people online that claim to be based and redpilled, much like nick the spic fuentes followers, are all nons and mentally ill and gay. Real healthy adult Whites act like normal people (and think slurs in their heads).
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>>581839069
I say some of those won't elaborate any further
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>>581839098
what am I paying $15 a month for if i can't even name myself george floyd?
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I like the Skyborne dance and I don't care if it's cringe
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>>581838834
Depends on the healer.
Paladin is boring spam 1 button. Shaman is a mix of chain heal and single target heals.
Druid is spreading hots around and triggering them before they expire. Priest has the most varied heals and can do a bit of everything.
Priest and Druid as most fun imo. Shits always easy with a good group though. You only have to try when partied with shitters usually
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>>581839218
>wowfg is a basedjak party guild
>little space is some bizarre fetish shit
>retards also tried to start "dogfart" going here, which is a jew owned interracial porn studio
I unironically don't want to associate with 4cuck retards in the game
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Do you think I can get away with Saint Floyd?
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>>581839260
you are a libtard and you won't survive ww3
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>>581839075
Nah this is a new game. Not even one person is expecting it to be classic wow. You’re a fucking tard honestly and your bait is shit tier.
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>>581838628
Yes
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https://x.com/ImKingGinger/status/2101465060975742976
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>>581839279
>Feral ends up farming manual crowd pummelers from gnomer for the on use
no way they dont fix this with all the changes they are adding
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>>581839421
I think I've seen that one already on Asmon's stream
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>>581839432
>Not even one person is expecting it to be classic wow
Kungen (having a mania episode over the forever changes btw)
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>>581839262
Yeah thanks for posting the Uber gay version created and censored by Gen alpha because they are on a whole nother level of sheltered and censor words like kill, death, and rape. WTF is wrong with kids these days?
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>>581838205
>Horde is basically the faction if you're a manchild
Manchild by normal people standards or compared to the typical 4chan user?
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>>581838834
well resto sham is the same as retail lol aside from it being more complex id say cause of totems idk about everything else
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>>581839440
The quintessential onions. This is the kind of faggot that watches asmongold. A fucking discrage to the huhwhite race.
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>>581839279
Not in forever retard
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So it looks like people are realising this is retail.
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>>581839473
Pummler is still in the game, and it can now have its charges restocked with a battery thing made by engineers.
I still have no tru confirmation on if feral actually benefit from weapon damage yet. I doubt weapon speed won't matter just like in classic though
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>asmon vod
>hes playing at 7am talking about shit
this is OG
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>>581839607
what does retail mean?
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>>581839196
I usually come up with some RP name.
Now I need to also come up with a surname, tough task for a nelf.
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>>581839421
If you’re based and cool you don’t care about getting caught and turn the bans into grifts. But you’re a pussy so you’ll self censor, that way you don’t face any punishment and get to sneedchuckle in discord with your likeminded spineless faggot “friends” (people you will never meet or truly know but they’re the only people who will talk to you willingly besides your coworkers)
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The fact there's been a retail tranny posting the same exact inorganic blue elf tranny retail pornsick slop in every bake for the past 7 fucking days absolutely necessitates skybourne's removal from wow forever, the mental illness on display from this individual is not conducive to a healthy and happy wow forever experience
Catering to mentally ill subversives always leads to ruin
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>>581839418

It takes a special person to openly associate with freaks on this site. Everytime I see a group of 4channers I think of the biggest freaks known to man mankind, who scream nigger over the internet at any chance.
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>>581839410
Druid isn’t really a healer, they don’t bring any Druids into naxx speedruns. Unless resto and holy gets some huge buffs, you’re still looking at priest being the healing class. Even shaman isn’t good enough, resto is shamans best spec but the totems still aren’t good enough to justify the lower hps. They probably changed tons of game mechanics around tho.
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What am I supposed to do for 44 more days until forlo comes out?
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>>581839440
the only thing worse than streamers are streamer orbiters
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>>581839649
>>what does retail mean?
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>>581839473
They did fix it.
Weapons don't seem to influence attack speed though, so you want something slow.
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Elemental Shaman got butchered while every other Talent Tree got supremely buffed.
You fags have no idea how bullshit this is.
Blizzard despises Ele for some reason.

This is the minimum that needs to change.
Elemental Mastery needs to return.
Earthbound Totem needs to be further down in the tree.
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>>581839742
play the beta
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who has the sexiest dance for standing on mailboxes? nelf?
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>>581839607
retail is when transmog o algo
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is 55fps in middle of stormwind during peak hours with everything on ultra good?
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>>581839632
what a terrible change. do they really think a person wants to use the same weapon the entire game?
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>>581839575
>everyone else is a sissy snowflake!
>gets mad that his preferred words aren’t used
Makes you think
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>>581839819
Relog and check again
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>>581839684
Its the pornsick dumbfuck americans. Nobody ever talks politics or plays female characters in my old EU guilds
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>>581839684
>t. frogposter
And yet the skelfposter Anon still brings more to the table than you.
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>>581833198
im gonna wager a guess buying this shit and re listing on the AH will still work a year from now
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>>581839684
Why is that tranny here anyways he gets like no (You)’s when he’s not samefagging, bro should kill himself
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>>581839705
>muh naxx speedruns
Hots stack, you'll want a few resto druids in 99% of guilds
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Futa isn't gay.
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>>581839853
>the point
>your broccoli head
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id rather them have the game give you achievement points for doing stuff in the game like winning X amount of bgs and not fucking leveling alts ....
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>>581839575
Because the social media they use suppresses those words. Are you retarded? You think they made that shit?
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https://x.com/nohitjerome/status/2096642062833623338
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>>581839853
hes pointing out they crossed out KYS in the comic, retard-kun
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>>581835759
!!! Yes combat logging seems to be paramount. How are you doing it?
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>>581839928
It's a bit gay.
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>>581839763
okay but what does it MEAN in your own words
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>>581839684
Americans and Retoilets are essentially synonymous.
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the absolute state of wowfags, holy shit
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>>581839938
>everyone who disagrees with me is a dumb kid!
Wrong again, retard. Keep soiling yourself.
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The only thing forever needs to be 10/10
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>>581839791
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>>581839429
Terminally online retards truly need to be purged.
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>horde never buffs me as I walk past them or quest in same area
>alliance ensures I'm fully buffed 24/7
hmmmm nyooooticing....
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>>581839828
It is likely that even if weapon damage doesn't matter, feral itemization will still be vastly improved over vanilla. There'll probably be more of those 2 handers that give bear/cat specific attack power or some shit
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>>581839928
It isn't. It's feminine form.
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>>581839684
>skybourne
>bourne
i am so, so sorry that you have to live life as a third worlder, anon. :(
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>>581840061
I try to buff everyone but I don't have the mana for it..
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>Monday afternoon
>tranny and streamer posts are at the minimum

All the liberal NPCs and gooners must be working at their designated McDonald’s wage cage.
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>UHHH WHAT'S RETAIL
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I just got mobilized... I wont be able to post about turtle wow anymore
fuck you wow forever troons
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>>581840048
this looks so stupid, pure kino
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>>581839768
Conceptually, what do you hope for elemental to be? It was decidedly an immobile cooldown oriented burst mage with double dispel, and also provides some extra support through totems. But it’s just a shit archetype in every way. Enhance is its own thing, it’s a tried and true class theme which has made its way into every RPG pretty much. Resto is also kinda interesting thematically, but I feel totems aren’t as interesting from a healing perspective. When we decide the shaman is actually just an auto attack class, we can see there’s a huge niche there that Ret, warrior and rogue don’t provide.
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nosneedjerome
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>>581840001
More people play retail in Europe than NA, you fucking retard. WoW has always been more popular there.
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>>581839649
Retail is when a leveling item has 5 strength on it instead of 4. The powercreep is unreal that's like a 0.0025% dps increase saving 15 seconds to 60. I thought classic was about the journey???
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asmon has an asian gf
this a clout thing or what?
shes apparenlty also playing wow
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>>581840061
I've saved two people out in the world with heals in the Barrens today
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>>581840136
why didn't you just buff me anon
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>>581840024
Keep malding young brownoid
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>>581839997
Incremental, soulless changes that seem too small to really care about in a vacuum. But they accumulate over time, and eventually it's no longer the same game, just an uninspiring husk of what the original devs intended it to be.
That's what we call retail.
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>>581839997
that indirect seethe tho
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>>581834505
Not even rightoids actually gave a fuck about Kirk. It was all performative. Not a single internet tough guy went troon hunting or any of the other shit they promised to do.
Fentanyl floyd on the other hand is a reminder that entire cities can be trashed over a career felon and people won't do shit about it. He is their hero and martyr.
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>>581840061
If I buff you I stop being a bear for a few seconds
and I just can't be bothered
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>>581840204
Asian girls are perfect for autistic guys.
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>>581840204
Its a being a millionaire thing
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>>581840151
"how do you define 'retail' though?"
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>>581840061
>faction of unlovable incel chuds is clueless about social acts
yes very surprising
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>>581840140
>entire thread is talking about trannies and streamers
Why do you lie to yourself?
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All the tanks feel kinda bad.
Threats a non issue so far so they wont be nonviable but their talent trees are so ass.

Special note to prot pally having probably the worst talent tree now yet blizzard showing it off at blizzcon means their retarded ass thinks its good.
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>>581840286
but shes a millionaire already?
>>581840284
dunno about that
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asmon should be sent to the deepest depths of niggerhell
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>>581840042
Draenei cancelled for being aliens.
Satyr Latyr, for the Horde.
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>>581840301
low iq subhuman babble always devolves into this.
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>>581840243
J-just wait, I'll have enough mana soon, please don't go
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>>581839949
big chungus sends his regards
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>>581840196
its funny how this thread uses retail as the ultimate schizo boogeyman (even transcending troon) when the posters here make it glaringly obvious with regards to how many of them actively play retail themselves.
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>>581840358
truke
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>>581837783
well I hope she rapes me
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>>581840287
Shit
>But here's what you are actually saying
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>>581840254
>young brownoid
Implying young people, much less the gun & ball demographic, are even remotely interested in this game. You are strawmanning to cope. Seethe.
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>>581840241
But you didn't buff me.
>>581840280
Just fucking buff me, the alliance made sure I have every class buff 24/7
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>>581840049
I agree, people who are offended by names in WoW should be purged
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>>581840042
This should have been the new race instead of sky elves
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>>581840204
She's an unabashed gold digger. She's very up-front about it.
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>>581840324
What should tanking be in your dream mmo? In wow, you usually are meant to sacrifice dps in exchange for mitigation OR threat. Theyre 3 different things and thats how you’re meant to decide what your next move is going to be. In some versions of wow, theres not actually any choice involved, you just do your rotation the same way no matter what. Classic tanking was some of the best designed mmo content ever.
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>>581840495
but shes loaded herself?
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>>581840480
Ok, what's the lore gonna be to include them?
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>>581840495
i mean why else would you associate yourself with asmon
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>>581840454
>young people aren't interested in this game!
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>>581840204

>actually believing he has a gf
>wasn’t fabricated to appeal to his incel yellow fevered audience

Nobody except white incels want a moonface
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has wow ever allowed offensive names?
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>>581840358
He already lives in the states
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>>581840204
chinks and Philippinos go after whites all the time
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>>581840459
You would have been banned in 2004 if you named your character Nillkiggers. What the fuck makes you think it would be any different with a space in between them? Christ you people are retarded.
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>>581840554
anon this might shock you but people with a lot of money tend to want even more money
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>>581840495
Wow! And here I was thinking she was with him for his appearance. Stupid old me.
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>>581840324
im sure paladin will get buffed to kingdom come when the shitskins playing them cry they arent the best at everything(this is what happened in retail)
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>>581839997
it means cynically recreating something that is ostensibly made as a love letter to fans of classic wow, when in reality it's a shallow bait and switch cash grab made with all the usual arrogance of modern day activision blizzard
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>>581840454
>he's still seething
And you will STILL never be a woman. See how that works? Cope seethe and dial eight freak
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>>581840610
It's WoW's fault for punishing people for a system that they implemented. It's their responsibility to make a list of names that are not allowed.
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>>581840610
my shaman was named Thunderfart
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>>581833265
ahaha what the fuck that's actually pretty based
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>>581840326
>but shes a millionaire already?
Why would she do porn and prostitution if she's already a millionaire? I'm pretty sure that was just a marketing strategy her OF managers used to attract paypigs when she was doing findom.
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>>581840583
oh i bet she gets clout he does too
>>581840662
nah i cant imagine they actually fucking
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>>581840610
Nope, even in TBC or wrath (original) our MT got force renamed because he was called wristcut or something
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>>581840626
So why is she with asmongold then?
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>>581840610
No, if you named your character niggerniggernigger back in vanilla you could still be banned, the difference is that reporting systems have become more automated which means more people get banned
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>>581840663
is that a good low level blue? I can't believe Blizzard is putting all this overpowered gear in Forever more like retoilet am I right sisters?
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>>581840747
>prostitution
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>>581840554
Do you think that bring rich stops people from wanting more money? The opposite is usually the case. Rich people pursue greater riches harder than anyone else.
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>>581840709
Now this is bait
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>>581840635
Nope, slap on the wrist and name change. Blizzard's fault for not restricting the name. Eat shit and die, liberal.
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>>581840698
>everyone who disagrees with me is a tranny
You’re doing it again
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>>581840358
he always says hes in perfect health but living 35 years on fastfood and soda will catch up to you like a lightning bolt.
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>>581839684
kys
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>>581840835
why would she "date" stinky asmon then
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>>581833265
>tourist zoomer retards replying to a fake video
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I sincerely hope gamepad/controller players will be marked in LFG. I really CBA with some cozy retard Qing as healer playing on a fucking controller.
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>>581840893
Because he has a fuckton of money which he barely spends, and she wants access to it.
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I’ll admit, consecration for prot paladin is a very fun spell. It’s probably one of my favorite spells. But, I don’t think it’s very good game design. That’s too easy to just press the button and now you don’t have to do anything much. Classic basically balanced it around forcing paladins to be prot if they wanted to tank, and prot was a shit leveling spec. So you’d just not usually worry about consecration being overpowered. They also had less damage mitigation and single target threat generation than warriors at max level, so prot pal just wasn’t much of a problem. If prot pal actually gets buffed too far it’ll totally destroy forever. Dungeons aren’t meant to be huge aoe things like they turned retail into. It’s a fun gimmick but I think most people are burned out of that way to play the game. Slower cc focused pulls and also threat generators being a core element were simple and intuitive and always felt like an mmo game.
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>>581840843
No you are a retard who has never worked in game development. Blizzard devs are woke, gay, liberal, and lazy. They don't deserve to breath the same air as normal people. Neither do you.
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0% chance a white man wrote this
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>>581840893
Asmon has more money than her and it also gets her more simps since Asmon's viewership is 99% men
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A small cat person playing on a controller. He is playing a Human Male Discipline Pwiest.
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>>581840889
yes, we know you're a pedophile as well
no need to drive the point home and keep beating a dead horse, janny
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>>581840863
>brown tranny STILL pissing and shitting because xhe lost the debate
I mean I know this is how your side behaves, but have some dignity stinky fuckin libtard
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Best part of WoW Forever is getting to read all of the pserver trannies seethe.
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>Even Wall, of Wallcraft paid for the beta and is playing wow:forever
HAHAHAHA it's really over for all you pserver schizo thirdies. LOL, LMAO even.
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>>581840893
would you date a stinky, failure of a woman for a couple months if it made you rich af?
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>>581840984
Just don’t read any of the shit they put into the game. Theyre just trying to anger you. That’s actually why humans start with a brown horse it was literally meant to be a joke about doggystyle with Indian women. Games filled up with satanic brainwashing because satanic made it himself to torture human souls.
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>>581841093
damn these names suck
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>>581841093
that's it I'm going first time RP idgaf anymroe.
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>I need the company to be my moral compass
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>>581840551
Cleanest would be tanking abilities scaling off defensive stats making it so you dont have to walk the line.

>>581840682
My fear is they are going to be viable but the issue isnt whether or not they are viable, its how unfun and lame their talent tree is.
>5 5 point talents which is more than nearly anyone else
>So many of them do next to nothing like imp 1h sword, imp hoj
>Holy shield is your capstone but holy shield sucks ass AND it got "nerfed" somehow, it should honestly be the 11 point one to give low level tanks something to do
Theres currently a very good argument to only go like 20~ points into prot and just go deep ret/holy for tanking depending on how big a deal crushing blows are this go around.

Most of the prot tree is just REALLY weak threat talents and a grand total of 3 actual make you tankier ones.
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>>581841106
NTA
No.

The things of this world are temporary. My love for my wife is forever.
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>>581841154
>humans start with a brown horse
You can choose the color of your first mount you schizophrenic fucknut.
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is any of this stuff legit? I've seen a few places mention things like belt buckles, ring enchants, cloak embroidery, etc, but I don't think I've see any actual proof of that in game yet.
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Thanks for funding WoW, (or as secondaries say, "Retail") losers
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>>581840952
>>581840992
Thinking Asmon is keeping his money with his new ccp handler
It's going straight back to China and into Xi's coffers
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>>581841093
>wet waifu
unf
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>>581841071
>as well
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>>581841093
how is this group finder not considered egregiously retail?
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>>581841214
was it
>wet waifu
that did it for you? i too would go rp to avoid those insufferable degenerates appearing on my screen.
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>>581841154
The most common horse color is brown and you've always been able to pick the color of your first mount from a choice of three? What schizobabble is this?
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>>581840819
why do you leftists always pretend to not understand what the issue is
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>>581839881
>further proof eurokeks are low test
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>>581841276
Theyre literally called bride Ls dude cmon. Thats your bride. It’s pretty clearly designed to sexually assault the reader.
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Wow, there's a whole lot of sour grapes in this thread right now
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>>581841356
there are so many blatantly retail things in this game that we have to pick our battles
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How stuff like this werks?
t.newfag
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>>581841342
I'm pretty sure its a chatbot, it keeps calling people janny when I assume it wants to use the word tranny but its training is off
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>>581841356
>how is this group finder not considered egregiously retail?
because you still have to walk to the dungeon which is vanilla soul
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>>581841303
I forgot all about this.
I would like to know too.
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>>581841154
I sometimes forget that I share a general with people who are genuinely insane
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>>581841331
China is broke and on the brink of collapse though
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>>581841482

As a vanilla chad I’m okay with this. All it did was making people easier to find. I queued randomly for HoT as a Hunter and got an invite. Was pleasantly surprised
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>>581839881
>being proud of being in a guild full of faggots
You sure showed him
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>>581841475
You'll be able to log onto the character creation screen and make your character but can't log in I believe
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>>581841356
it's a bulletin board, not LFG
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>>581840324
prot pally tree seems pretty good to me, what's the problem? Only weird thing is tying their taunt to a seal.
bear tree seems decent too.
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>>581841475
do you need beta access for this?
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>>581841265
They do scale tho. The stats just don’t appear at the content level you’ve been doing. Anyways tooltip arguments aren’t really game design, gearing your toon is actually somewhat classless and cringe. There’s not really any accomplishment in getting the item, it’s only from getting the legendary parse. Maybe thunderfury, but only because they put so much work into butchering the other item models so that thunderfury would look more unique. Like honestly the cool default sword model stops being cool next to a thunderfury.
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You guys do read everything right? We are going back to comfy vanilla times you have to.
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>>581839418
what guild are you joining anon
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I find it so cute when the camera pans in to a populated starting zone from above and you see all the people running around , hopping and zooming around.

It is intensely adorable.
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>>581841617
not every single retail feature is bad

in fact the puritanical resentment of anything made post-2004 is ironically a boon for retoilet design because strawmanning it all as equally bad is what enables apologists for things like flying and mythic+ and lfr and other such things.
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are we really expecting the same devs who made retail to give us a solid mmo experience that lasts longer than a couple months?
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>>581841590
that's why they need the increase from asmon's increase, it's happening all across the country and world
it's been a slow burning plan in the works for a long long long time, just now coming to fruition
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>>581841639
>>581841738
More importantly do you need a sub for this?
A bit devious to put this event one week before launch, lol.
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>>581841303
I have been trying to find any evidence but no luck, feels like they just copied it from SoD or someshit and assumed its the same
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>>581840204
Do you think he greedily slurps her spicy slimy kimchi turds up like a good piggy that gets fed
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>>581841548
Like half the people in grand master sc2 are named baal or mephisto or a joke about how you are personally incel. Turns out he really likes to play video games. He cheats tho because he’s always got to be rank 1. Kungen is Satan sadly, they’re all devils. But really.
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Can I remove that big ass issue reporter button?
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>>581841331
is this ai
very artistic picture
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which reddit is offical for wow forever?
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>>581841770
Yeah which is how I noticed this
Its nice they acknowledge in-game that you've already killed members of the other side by this point
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>>581841827
second increase = income*
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What race/class do jeets play?
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>>581841812
Why don't you ask asmongold next time you watch him, you fucking loser.
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>>581841998
they cant run the game anon, and it'd cost half their salary
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>retoilet general somehow limping by longer than /wowcg/
ngl im surprised it hacked out that way.
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>>581841842
>>581841842
>Do you need beta access
I would say no since its included in the 30$ pack which doesn't give beta access
>Do you need a sub?
One again probably not, you can log into WoW without a sub in general you just aren't able to log in
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ok i think i wanna play an arcne mage and i think im gonna literally max out every talent on that tree, it just makes sense
i wont have pyroblast so idk what i'd use PoM on, maybe someone can let me know, but theres too much neat stuff in arcane i cant not take it all, i feel like i'd be able to tank a caster boss too if they have those
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>>581841812
It depends how they handle end game. End game classic is also complete shit too. It might be fun, but I doubt it. You can’t actually make MMOs, they’re just theoretical concepts which don’t actually translate to being entertaining.
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>walking towards someone on the road
>jump at their face as i pass so they're forced to get a whiff of my smelly troll pussy
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>>581841998
Human male Warrior/Ret Pally. They make their character look as white as possible, with blonde hair.
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>>581841998
wow isnt very popular in india
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Guys we need to get our narrative and agenda in order. Are the trannies all pserver autists or retoileters? We can’t keep switching it’s gonna cloud and dilute the hatred.
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>>581841998
Tauren ofc. They love cows after all.
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I'm leveling a Sky Elf Male Balance Druid from 1-20 and then harvesting content from the B-Roll.

slow jazz music from Envato playing in the background probably.


"Alrrrrigghhhtttt So what did I think?
Let's get into it ."
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>>581841770
my favorite part was when ragnaros's brother flew in. the dialogue literally had me shaking.
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will being realmless help keep the pvp population even and healthy???
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Expectation:
>"Yippie my bing-bing wahoo class will finally be useful now!"
Reality:
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>>581841998
Definitely horde players, most likely Orcs or Trolls.
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>>581840183
Honestly? As flawed as it may be, I do think that in the interest of making as many differing playstyles as possible, Ele should be a high roll type of spec, but it needs to truly feel rewarding if it goes that route.
It should have the potential to delete anything and it should retain its downsides of old. Mana should be the PRIMARY way to reign in an Elemental Shaman. So you unload fast, have obscene burst potential but if the battle drags on you're done.
And I know that comes with its own set of downsides to go this route and the spec won't be for everyone but if you want a caster that is predictable and consistent then there's already plenty of other choices for that.

The reason I want to keep it like that is if we go down the route of trying to 'balance' every class then they all inevitably will end up converging and playing the same as each other.
That's just how it works, it's inevitable. All the mages become carbon copies of each other in playstyle. They may have different spells and little intricacies that give the illusion that they're unique but if you look close enough you see they're all just the same.
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>>581841998
They don't play, they shit up this general with "discussions of politics" (actually just retarded subhuman echo chamber screeching from 2017)
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>>581842261
No, they can't really restrict you from creating more and more characters of an overpopped faction because it's the only pvp server around.
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>>581842112
i do this but im a femnelf
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>>581842251
>Ragnaros' brother
hes just an air elemental like the one in the cataclysm dungeon
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>>581841919
It's a beta DO YOUR JOB
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>>581842251
yeah I felt like an epic hero when I fought 3 rando elementals for 5 seconds and then some people showed up and the named elemental said some stuff and left
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>>581842335
You mean like exactly your post? Like that?
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anyone did the fireforged mail warrior quest? is it doable?
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>>581842326
>cherrypicks a pull where both druids were healing
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>>581842064
Lol you can’t make arcane mage a reality. They tried lots of times on retail, it’s always some generic crap of mana generation + cooldown burn phase. It’s not “mage” content. It’s its own archetype but it’s not a good one. It’s stupid is what im trying to say. Frost and fire are cool and are trustworthy gameplay elements. Arcane just can’t be a real mage spec because there’s no logical unique dps rotation. Casting arcane missles instead of fireball isn’t really any more interesting.
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>>581842251
Thats Thunderaans h1b replacement
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>>581842362
yeah but they can allocate a close to even split to each "layer" or whatever
idk what they do with the excess but they can make like 90% of the servers balanced if it isn't too one sided
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bluechads represent!
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>>581842249
10 more rupees depoisted, saaar
best thread shill award is yours, we salute our tankards of cow piss to you at blizz hq
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>>581841998
paladin anything
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>>581841998
Jeets are low IQ coomers so they would all play shit like female elves
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>>581841998
the only jeet who plays WoW I saw over on tw*tter is a hordefag and an orc fan
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>>581841919
You can drag it to the corner of the screen in edit mode
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>>581842508
Feels great to play as a blue elf with black hair.
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>>581839218
It's the classic Grobbulus RP PvP to trans pipeline
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>>581842251
I leveled two skelves and can't even do this quest because I'm hardlocked on both characters from that one quest that just doesn't progress
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>>581841998
100% paly
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Asmon is live.
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>>581842494
why didn't trump stop this, why did he flip flop, he was supposed to be azeroth first
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Kek
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>>581842326
90% of that warriors damage is thorns by the way
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>>581842676
Envision the fragrance...
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>>581842645
i bet, man!
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>>581842701
can asmons army defeat savix one? time will tell
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WTF they nerfed the hell out of 31/20 warrs
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>>581842503
But people will just hop layers till they outnumber the enemy just like in SoD. You'll see a layerhopping addon day 1
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>>581842328
>implying jeets wouldn’t be 100% white male humans and gnomes
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inv to azmon layer
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>>581842803
>literally hundreds of level 5 tourists who got btfo by like 20 horde players
Doubtful
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>>581842676
no you didnt. you cant even post them from your character select screen
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My game lags every time I kill an enemy. Is this normal?
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>>581842251
>Lorthuna
?
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>>581842792
>titanslop
ew
I hope forever doesn't go into cosmic shit
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>>581842251
>"SAAAAAAR me and Ragnaros are brothers. STOP LAUGHING YOU BLOODY BASTARD"
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i'm waiting until november
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>>581842807
>They nerfed the hell out of warriors
Needed. I don't want Forever to turn into half the raid being fury warriors.
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>>581842925
That's... implied gore on my comfy WoW Forever thread...
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>>581842983
What are you gonna play
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>>581842973
What the fuck do you think Uldum is?
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>>581842331
It doesn’t work. Encounters are too scrappy for that to be interesting. Ascension tried to buff ele and it still sucked. It was a shit raid spec and a shit pvp spec and a shit leveling spec. And that was a very buffed ele shaman.
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>>581841998
The white male pally larpers and gooners
Just like this thread!
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Thoughever enjoyers are eating good with this game being named WoW Forever. I tell ya what.
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>>581843058
WoW probably
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>>581843025
*Jefre Cantu Ledesma stops*
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>>581842973
All they've teased is early story focuses on Dire Maul Shen'dralar
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I will be making a male gnome warrior, with engineering as my profession on launch day and there's nothing anyone can do to stop me.
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>>581841706
Taunt-Judge is the biggest problem but you also have zero ranged pull.
You also have the issue blizzard pushed you into a block based tank again but you have no strength because you dont scale from it so your blocks are going to be blocking like 50 damage from 3k swings. It just exists as a way to push crushing blows off and regen mana.
99% sure this is what deep prot is going to look like and going from top to bottom

>Toughness-first 5 pointer, weak though you would like to take it but cant afford it
>Redoubt-incredibly weak but you will take for shield spec
>Precision-great talent zero complaints
>Guardians-pvp talent does nothing for your tanking as much as I love more bops for utility
>Anticipation-third 5 pointer, okay you will double back here in the weaker later half of the tree just to get defense cap easier. Honestly could be combined with toughness.
>Imp sof-weak, probably unnecessary but you will take for double judge
>Imp RF-good zero complaints
>Shield Spec-fixes mana problems, the shield part does nothing
>Sacred Duty-4% stam is very small, the CD reductions fine. Okay talent
>Swift-your emergency taunt since they made judge taunt, its fine. Not amazing but at least its a neat new spell
>One handed spec- worthless, only affects white damage and 3 points for 9% holy strike damage when holy strikes dealing next to no damage
>Imp hoj- still doesnt make you tankier, why is this unchanged
>Templars-bad defensive CD but im just happy to have a defensive CD so Ill take it
>Reckoning- 4th 5 pointer, really weak and just exists to occasionally get extra seal hits. Have to block now and only one swing.
>CREED- final 5 pointer, probably should only be 3 to let you be flexible with the tree. Good talent, DR and threat, zero complaints
>Holy Shield. Nerfed block for some reason, only 4 charges without imp so its bafflingly weak. Just not exciting for a capstone

The overall issue is the second half of the tree is incredibly weak overall.
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>>581842486
idk man im gonna have increased armor and be able to tank and stuff
they shook a lot of things up with the early spell power and im seeing early blues with mp5 and shit + busted stats while arcane has a new int % increase in talents; all this can only be good for the cause
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>>581843014
guess you don't want to do dungeons and raids either since a reduced amount of warriors is going to make finding a tank for your group a living fucking hell, say thank you
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Inhaling the tasty poop particles from elven women’s uncleaned asses
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>>581842939
cope tranny
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>>581843061
Its one thing to hint at greater powers...
Its quite another to be like 'yeah here is the light, its just some dudes, this is what all you palys love so fucking much.'
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>>581843196
I'm Horde where we'll get a ton of Undead Paladins. No issue here.
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>>581843061
Added in Cata?
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>>581842738
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>>581843096
I’d rather a ffxiv classic rerelease with lots of huge changes. Basically just turn it into classic wow with newer models and class themes. The ffxiv classic world is very similar to azeroth, almost identical. I think it would be like a decent flavor. This forever crap doesn’t have me too excited, im already playing classic lol this is like going to be the same fucking thing but with worse content, worse 3D models, worse dps rotations, worse class balance, worse everything
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>one singular PvP mega server
>don’t allow either side toons on a single account
Does Blizzard think we’re that dumb? This isn’t stopping anything. Anyone who just wants a toon on both sides will buy another sub. This is just profiteering.
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>>581842738
idgi
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>>581843196
Thats why paly & drood tanks exist...also shammies sometimes
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>>581843164
>you also have zero ranged pull.
yes thats a good thing. the lack of homogenization is what makes classes within their role feel unique to each other
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>>581843350
fem skelves mog so hard everyone else
how do I not play as one at launch?
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>>581843058
human rogue, it was my main when i was a kid, i never did any raids

might do some raids and try to get bloodfang armour
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>>581838949
Little Space is literally the name of an age regression fetish
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>>581843381
No, you retard. Uldum is classic lore that was set up by Uldaman. There's tons of Titan shit in vanilla.
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>>581843487
>almost identical
kys delusional xiv troon
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>>581842807
good
i can finally fucking play warrior without it being 99% of players that i have to compete with
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>>581843371
thinking paladins are going to be as good as warriors at tanking or fill the gaps a smaller warrior population is going to leave, enjoy being chased around and dying while the pallytank tries to get aggro lol im sure you'll have the patience for a pallytank playstyle to work, right lil zoom
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WoW Forever is shit.
>Warriors mutilated and made to be dogshit.
>Warlocks buffed (you can't make this shit up)
>Elemental shaman nerfed.
>Balance druid nerfed
>Paladin buffed (not a good thing, worst class to have strong, nobody wants to eat through 3 fucking health bars of a Paladin)
>Feral buffed too much
>Lone Wolf added, hunters aren't even using pets anymore
>Gnomes have retardedly imbalanced racials
>Dwarves are shit, so are Skelves.
>Troll Berserking racial nerfed and had the soul ripped out of it
>Old dungeons untouched, no new bosses, no new enemies, no new mechanics, nothing, just the same shit we've ran hundreds of times already
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The authenticator thing didn't work I didn't get the slots
>>
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>>581843514
It's a reference to something like the German equivalent to Chris Chan
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Does that basement area near the forsaken paladin keep have a prior use or is it original to forever? I mean the design of that underground area, specifically.
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>>581843186
So we have aoe damage, cleave damage and single target. Single target is typically the most significant, but big aoe can also make its way into naxx speedrunning even, nax speedruns bring mages purely for trash aoe. I just don’t see the value an arcane mage could bring to the class. Like if they turned arcane into a tanky mage, that’s already what warlock does. Or if they gave it melee abilities, that’s already a shaman. So there’s just not any room for arcane. Everyone wants to be like this unique snowflake and play the unique class but they just end up looking retarded.
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>>581843675
this is unironically the worst looking game I have ever seen. It's revolting.
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>>581843535
ya, im sure those will be as good as warriors
BAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>581843726
I have never understood that shit. Why would I want to have to do some little goyim task + blizzard tracking app just to log in lmao. I got hacked twice in 20 years and both times I just got all my items and gold back from a gm
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>>581843675
NTA but that's expansion content. I also think that retarded faggot is talking about 1.0 when he says "classic" FFXIV, which literally no sane person would ever want to be brought back. Either way, comparing Eorzea to Azeroth is incredibly off base.
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>>581843724
>cant toggle any of these issues
its over
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>>581843692
>paladins have undoubtedly the best AoE threat
>tanking will be even easier than it was in classic across the board
>it wasn’t hard in classic to begin with on a warrior with 1/10th the amount of tools
You might be the most retarded anon I’ve seen today.
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>>581843794
This makes more sense to if read like narrator of a story speaking to you
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>>581843874
Well maybe so you don't get hacked even once? Not everyone will get their items back
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>>581843572
Find some taste somewhere between now and Nov 4th
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>>581843897
>but that's expansion content
which makes it even worse
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>>581843794
Classic had stuff like this too, sovl.
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>>581843604
Jesus...
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>>581843724
someone will take this bait
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>>581843874
Oh you mean why would I want to give my info like this. Look, they already have my payment info and phone number anyway so what's the big deal with doing this as well
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>>581843954
we'll see
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>>581843724
>nazi JAV fan complaining
Good. Go back to era. Or pservers. Whichever shithole you crawled out of. Good riddance.
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>>581843963
Just imagine you're playing BG3 and the narrator is voicing the line
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>>581843794
Horse pussy begging for my big white human male paladin cock
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They should buff troll racials, berserking should last 15 seconds. Troll regen should be usable while dotted, only cancelling on a direct dmg hit. Dwarf needs help too, and skelves I suppose but people only roll them for goonbait
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>nitpick about how wow forever is finished
>pls disregard the fact that im a third world brown skinned faggot with no money so i wouldnt be able to play it anyway
>le based pic to go with my post
CAN I GET YOUS NOW?? AM I /WOWFG/ing CORRECTLY NOW?! HERP DERP
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>>581843675
Yeah the big thing I think is this is when they started really uhhh “””perfecting””” the dps rotations. And, it’s tiring and less rewarding because it’s not any more challenging it’s just much more strict. You have less flexibility and creativity and are punished severely for not pressing the correct button. But it’s not even hard to press the correct button, anyone can do it. Yeah I hated xiv dps rotations, classic is way cooler and apparently is deceptively challenging or else I wouldn’t be parsing legendary now would I.
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>>581843873
>he doesnt know
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>>581843794
based. Retail would say <The horse watches you calmly and swishes their long tail to alleviate some flies.>
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>>581843724
Sure, but look at all the new gimmick items.
It's so kino sovl, and it makes me feel the way I did back in vanilla. I might only play for a week or two, but that experience means a lot to me, and that's valid.
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>>581838949
join dogfart today
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Bring back Afrasiabi
Bring back Fras Siabi NPC
The allegations were jewish lies
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>>581844142
>>581844127
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>>581843976
you can't even get hacked anymore kid. Try and log in from India and see if it let's you (it won't). How would they even get your password?
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>Forvo is set 1 year before this happens
someone warn Magni
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>>581843610
>No, you retard.
Yes, actually, you retard. Like the other guy said hinting at greater things is not even remotely the equivalent of having those things place right in front of your face.
Fighting a bunch of degenerate cave dwellers and two malfunctioning big stone golems with some wacky lore =/= fighting god's favorite children who protect some goofy mcguffin alien device

Everything about you stinks of Retoid
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>>581844142
stop slurping so much retoilet water thats dangerous
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>>581844162
he trust blizzard lol
another serving coming right up, sir
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>>581843860
That guys PC is shit. ARR is very nice looking, looks nothing like that pic.

>>581843897
ARR was literally classic wow actually. But, they fucked up a few core elements which made classic the better game. Anyways im not gonna talk about ARR all day, I just wanted to point out it has far more potential in a revamp than classic.
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>>581844186
Further proof you chuds don’t have enough hate in your hearts and you’re just retarded LARPers mad at the world. So many troons use “it” pronouns it’s ridiculous.
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>>581844161
>actual ai bot farming (you)s
diabolical, have another
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>>581843196
>sugesting even 1% of dps warriors in vanilla tanked
thats a kekw
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>>581844072
well if the app is on your phone then it's 100% tracking everything on your phone and probably even listening
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Which professions are OP and why is it still fishing and cooking?
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>>581844127
>indian larper cannot help but rave about fucking an animal
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>>581843196
>NOOO MY CLASS IS NOT THE BEST AT DPS AND TANKING, HELP MEEEEE
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>>581844492
lmao mine is at both at the same time
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>>581843164
Imo I would do some combination of
>Combine toughness/anticipation
>Combine shield spec and redoubt
>Move holy shield to imp shield specs spot OR reintroduce blessing of sanctuary in some form to work as your holy shield
>Reckoning can be 2 points and it would still probably be skipped
>1h spec should be all damage like it was changed to in TBC
>Creed to 3 to let you double back in the tree to pick up utility you missed
>Capstone should be avengers shield or hammer of the righteous or like passive let you cast exo on living targets
Id also just give normal taunt and make furys judgement an attack speed debuff to shore up you missing that.
All of this would be overpowered but as it stands you gain very little from talents to the point where its very likely people will just go deep holy for tanking which is fairly retarded from blizzards strandpoint.

>>581843563
Problem is tanks ARE homogenized functionally just like healers are. You all taunt, you all have to try and get uncrittable and unless raids are a joke uncrushable
Pallies compared to a warrior or druid
>Still dont have multiple defensive CDs
>Are squishier overall due to just worse talents and how itemization works
>Cant ranged pull
>Cant debuff attack speed
>Taunt on judge is terrible for multiple reasons
The positives are you bring utility they dont and used to have more aoe threat but the conc nerfs make that questionable.

Warriors and bears have their own problems, mainly with scalability. Swipe has zero scaling at all which is baffling attack power does nothing for it for example.
All of the tanks are really messy right now looking at their level 60 talents.
Not saying tanks will be bad or specs are unviable again, just saying your talents are a hot fucking mess right now and you are being hard carried from your abilities having crazy sp scaling and not anything from your talent tree.
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Here's how we fix the Forever problem.
Keep dungeons as is for the leveling part of the game, sure.

But when you hit 60, go back to all the old dungeons and SoD them up. Completely reimagine them. For dungeons like BFD and Sunken Temple which already have a SoD reimagining, just add them to the game, all with level 60 characters in mind.
Doing things this way gives us the best of all worlds. We get the old dungeons as they were for leveling then we get new and unsolved dungeons which they can add more complexity and nuance to with the SoD style level 60 reimagining of them.

Win/win.
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>>581844379
Im not sure what you’re trying to say fucktard. Fucking retard kys.
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>>581843156
I fucking love elves.
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>>581844281
The quest chain from the discs you get at the end of uldaman mentions uldum by name
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I'm looking to join the most racist and toxic guild in wow forever. Where do I find them? This board is full of pussies
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How aggressive do you guys think they will be at balancing the classes and races?

I mean, part of the classic atmosphere is definitely "you're stuck with what you have". Even back in vanilla any attempts at balance the classes were half-assed until TBC. So will they go the retail route of aggressively balancing shit constantly or not
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>>581833238
honestly an improvement over sky elves
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ok internet tough guy
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>>581844391
thinking putting any kind of dent in the warrior population would be a good thing, especially when you don't meticulously plan out for the consequences that will come from it, can you honestly say you are happy with the other classes tank specs you are going to lean on as a crutch lol can they support your weight, big boy
you're the biggest boy, yes you are, tubby tubby
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>>581844642
Do you like choking them and cumming on their ass which releases the pent up hatred for them?
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>Paladin taunt is tacked onto judgement
This fucking sucks holy shit. What a retarded idea this was.
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>>581833238
Ludokino
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I shouldn't be saying this but resto druids look really solid and fun with half GCD on reju, sw , wildgrowth. you get duration increase from balance tree too.

not bad at all honestly
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>>581834053
Wish druids as a class had a unique language like they do in dnd. Would be pretty kino, especially on rp servers.
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>>581844281
Yeah, fighting things like gods and demigods is totally out of step with classic and definitely something that would never have happened in vanilla WoW. Literally never. Under any circumstances. No raid boss in vanilla ever fit that descriptor, and if one in Forever does then it's guaranteed to flop.
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REMOVE LAYERS REMOVE LAYERS REMOVE LAYERS NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER!!!!!!! Seriously this shit is so fucking gay at least if we have to have layers let me select them like runescape or every other game with multiple worlds.
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>>581844650
And you go to the gates of uldum to receive your 9400xp. Yeah, it's a place that exists in vanilla.
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>>581844709
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>>581844650
Dude I know. You've mentioned that three times. I will simply reiterate yet again
>Hinting with lore is not the same as seeing the thing first hand
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>>581844834
It exists in the lore, not in game no
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>>581844697
well it's certainly going to need balancing so they better had. If they don't people will just quit
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>>581844697
Classic was actually balanced incredibly well. Classic devs were like time travellers bruh that’s literally how you balance an mmo. As it turns out, making every class do the same dps isn’t very balanced at all. Everyone knows Hunter is shit raid dps but people keep making them. That’s balance. They know what they’re doing.
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>>581844818
you understand that selecting layers would just be realms again right?
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>>581844774
I choke them affectionally while making love to them.
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>>581844818
this train has long sailed
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>>581844818
This. Let us choose a permanent layer when we create a character, and have Blizzard enforce faction balance.
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>>581844281
Are you just choosing to forget about C’thun?
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>NOOOOOO THEY BANNED ME FOR NAMING MY CHARACTER NOTSEE KAIKILLA BLIZZARD HAS FALLEN TO WOKE
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>>581843164
>spells don't scale from STR
>Itemization will require more stats than druid / warrior and therefore overall be weaker
>Weapons, rings, and neck will have to roll against casters
>Warrior will have the best mitigation and single target dps, druid will have the biggest health pool, paladin will have nothing unique since they nerfed consecration
>weird clunky judgment to taunt, when judgement needs to be part of the dps rotation
>only need 2-3 paladins per raid for blessings which can be covered with holy
I thought paladin would be more popular but there's only 2 people that made one in my guild and one has been playing Holy for multiple iterations (era, sod, anni).

Warrior fury/prot with a shield looks better than anything paladin has to offer.
>None of the bottom half of the prot tree matters, gets all of the rage generation from wearing a shield and all the mitigation from prot tree
>Enrage procs any time you take damage
>Blood craze procs off bloodthirst for sustained healing
>Blood Thirst scales better than shield slam and is usable in any stance

Bear druid looks good too, will be better than warrior for AoE packs but doesn't have as much mitigation as warrior does due to only have dodge.
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>>581844949
this kind of thing makes me think obvious flaws like ele shaman not having a dedicated mana talent are intended
which is fine
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>>581844818
They make layer swapping addons basically you just like, the addon logs your layer and you invite people into your layer or they invite you. It’s kinda gay tho because it’s just mentally taxing to hop worlds like that over and over to farm shit like it sucked in RuneScape honestly. It’s hop noob all over again.
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>>581844902
people like this clearly do not fuck. You'd be shy cuck irl if you ever even got the chance to do anything you post about
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>>581845051
you... know that's just realms again right?
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>>581844697
Fatrend mentioned that they want to have every class be really good at things and really bad at things (which is a good thing). And that's their philosophy going forward.

So we're back into the "waiting for Blizzard to completely go back on what they said" phase right now.
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>>581844952
Channel menu from Maplestory. CC plz.
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>>581844949
this is a joke right?
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>>581844952
You should be able to change them on a whim so you're not punished for accidentally leveling a character on a shard that eventually dies
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>>581844818
Why?
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>If my class can't be at the top of the dps parse, it's unplayable
that's retoilet thinking
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>NOOOOO BLIZZARD WENT BANKRUPT BECAUSE THEY BANNED THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE TO APPEASE THE MINORITY!!
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White people be like:
>oooh, this ketchup is so spicy!
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>>581845234
majority of players werent called nigger killer
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>the most toxic, organized degenerate group of griefers and PvPers
>their purpose is to clear raids for loot only to make killing streamers easier
>eventually credited with ending several streamer careers due to incessant griefing
>one catch
>they’re all trannies
Based or not? Would you join?
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>>581842676
The one with two elementals? Yeah, me too on one.
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>>581845231
i agree
unfortunately, parsetards think the same for people who don't care
i couldn't get into raids in anniversary because i specced into utility. fags.
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>>581845054
Idk if having an alien raid boss stuck inside a forgotten temple counts as the game focusing on cosmic shit.
He's not even the final boss of classic
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>decide to play on pve server today to try undead pally
>server is nearly empty
>everyone is on pvp server

I thought warmode was popular though hmm?
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>>581845280
Ketchup ain't spicy lol, mayo though ooof!
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>>581845337
>one catch
>they’re all trannies
Isn't that given from the description you gave?
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>>581845324
Doubt
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>>581845372
All the streamers are on PvP so all the retailers are on PvP.
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These retards didn't properly encode German umlauts so if I open the character screen it doesn't show my character because strength = "Stärke" makes the menu crash
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>>581845337
yes just to watch
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>>581845337
Do they have huge floppy ladyboy dicks and will gape my sissypussy with them until i cant walk or sit?
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>>581845337
There won't be any streamers on my shard because I'll be on oce.
Thanks for letting us use your auction house though
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>>581845085
very interesting build anon and I wouldn't be surprised if some variation of this ends up meta
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>>581845116
Put on the cage and let’s find out.
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You know every day that I come to this general and read it, I feel my IQ drop and my mental health decline. I think it's time I leave this cesspool of faggotry and retardation.
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>>581845085
Bear looks good on paper imo, its issue is blizzard went full retard with items.

Bonus armors currently being added AFTER bear bonus armor.
So rather than this giving 85+33 then times 360
Its 85 x 360 then adding 33.
Its overall a pretty huge armor nerf for bears
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>>581845085
blizzard removing the 10% str/stam talent from deep prot was such a blunder
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>>581845476
Good, fuck you and your non-english speaking kind. Hopefully your goverment bans online games so I don't have to see your disgusting language ever
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>>581845476
Good, pay more for UTF encoding, poorfag
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>really enjoyed sod balance druid for p1 and 2
>exited to play it in forever
>remember owl form
Do we think they'll add anything to remove owl form? I really hate it (I want to see my character)
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>>581845476
you cant whisper people with umlauts and stuff in their name
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>>581845234
Who is this "majority" and the "minority" in this instance and how did blizzard go "bankrupt" over it?
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>>581833238
>>581833293
>>581833493
>>581844709
>>581844780
kill yourself furfaggot
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>>581845438
Yall gotta make your minds up are the trannies retarded and bad or god gamers?
>>581845479
Yeah…I bet you would watch you fag
>>581845493
Yes but they have zero interest in you
>>581845516
>oce
Bleak
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>>581845337
shan't be participating in subhuman activities with subhumans
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>>581845146
Lol do you think retail is balanced better than classic? Just look up dps meters. You’ll always have to submit to the sustained single target dps metric, and there’s always going to be a last place position. So the way to make that a viable class like in classic is to give it gimmicks. Thats where you get ret paladins and balance Druids, they love the gimmick. Giving everyone raid buffs is overcomplicated. Making burst phases on bosses is also still too complicated from a raid leading perspective, you just can’t get a group of retards doing burst phases it’s too much talking and planning. So they don’t do that type of thing very often.
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>>581845590
Total Eurotrash death.
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Which faction is better for RP? I haven't done much WoW RP in years so I don't know how the scene is, I'm tempted to join an SI:7 or Brotherhood of the Horse guild
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>>581845542
yes daddy
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>>581845372
I wouldn't be surprised if warmode legitimately is popular with the type of retards who play retail.
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>>581845584
should just add devastate and it could proc free slams or something
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>>581843196
Warrior tierwhore tears must flow
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>>581845105
I have played classic before I know how the addon works, its annoying and shitty especially when the population declines. Just let me select from a list of layers that shows their population.
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>>581845337
That sounds ideal and why i would play (gearing just for pvp) but trannies are a hard NO. Utterly retarded delusional freaks
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>>581845085
Why extra rage? Does it make any difference?
Imp cleave would probably be better
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>>581845695
I would guess that alliance would have more faggot-type and ERP shit. Horde would be more fun. Unless you like that sort of gay and ERP shit, then kys.
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paladin
smithing and mining

hunter
skinning and leatherwork
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>>581845695
Alliance
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>>581845085
Pallies are super popular everywhere but in my sweaty guild
>Healers all fucking hate shockadin and want to play resto druids
>Our resident ret player says ret looks unfun and wants to play enhance
>Our OTs playing prot but says it looks like ass
They better give kings to hunters or some shit because getting pally buffs in 20 mans going to be annoying now.
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>>581843196
guess ill have to ask one of the 4000 paladins or druid who are around me fuuuuck bros
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>>581845337
>they're trannies
>but they make fun of trannies and niggers
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>>581845674
>are the trannies retarded and bad or god gamers
They are autistic men, so they have capability to be good at exactly one thing.
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>>581845808
For the purpose of extending the hypothetical, assume they’re completely normal outside of being troons
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>>581845908
That doesn't hold up since horde has pretty elves too, so now the orc or tauren x pretty elf kink gets automatically enabled. Horde should never have elves
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>>581845919
THINK anon THINK
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>>581845641
That's dumb but now that I think about it umlauts are really shit for that even if it would work. You would have to copy and paste that from some site if your keyboard doesn't have them
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>>581845791
Blizz doesn’t like to add that type of thing into the main game. Youre actually expected to use addons. It’s like a way to create some extra chaos I think, and to limit information and to make the game harder for new players. They do it on purpose to stoke creativity in the community. Theres still no dps meters in the main game, I mean it’s pretty obvious they don’t want to make information too parallel because where would they stop? Like you’d honestly expect to know every single thing they’d be writing constant guides and it generally just ruins the game kinda. Yeah that’s another fucking retarded but it works situation.
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>>581846018
Just play on NORMAL with the NORMAL people.
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>>581845337
>ganking streamers
>on the game with 30 layers
missed your chance to do that 7 years ago, this is scripted pvp only
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>>581845695
Horde is way more chill but Alliance has more immersive RP imo.
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>>581845817
Those two points could go anywhere else. I just quickly filled it for the post. Same with the extra defense talent points, once you get gear those tend to be useless.
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>>581845940
>They better give kings to hunters or some shit because getting pally buffs in 20 mans going to be annoying now.
they explicitly said they're never doing this
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>>581845695
Alliance obviously because you want to fuck the characters.
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>>581845948
enjoy running around getting raped, while your non-warrior tanks chase the mobs pwning you, retard
the first time it happens, think of me
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>>581846018
The horde actually did fine without elves in vanilla. Thats what made them them the cool tough guy faction to begin with

Of course thats been erased by millions of elves since
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>>581845995
that's simply not possible no matter what they might think. The fact that they want to beat others in pvp clearly points towards a male brain, trannies are really just that stupid that they can't see what's in front of them
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>>581846262
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>>581837171
One of these classes is good in PvE
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>>581846157
Did they?
Thats fairly stupid for raid buffing
>You want multiple shaman
>You want multiple paladins
>You want 2 locks
>Warriors you want multiple if multiple melee groups
>Every other class was normalized so you dont get anything for stacking them
Kind of stupid design choice by blizzard to half ass buff/debuff normalization.
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>>581846203
>The horde actually did fine without elves in vanilla.
you seem to forget that 2/3rds of all servers had a massive population imbalance toward alliance
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>>581846359
*historically was good in pve
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>>581845695
It's a new space. Either faction can have good RP. Both sides have enough hooks for interesting stories and RP.
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>>581846203
Yep, ever since blood elves horde has been 50% elf so one race ruined an entire faction sorta
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Ummm yeah no thank you
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>>581840495
she is a gold digger in the sense that;
>he's wealthy, he's successful, it means he's worthy
he doesnt buy her jack shit, and he doesn't need to, one look at his stock and business portfolio and im sure she's gushing.
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>>581835781
Its a mixed bag
You go alliance you get cool shit like classic fantasy that reminds you of LOTR, and stormwind is cool, and dwarves are cool...
But you also get trannies, vapid women who always fight with each other and break your guild apart, their simps, and other self centered people who want to self insert as some beautiful character

Horde - from what I understand - has a bunch of edgy kids, min maxxers and BPD girls who want to like "dark romance" and want male attention... but it's also full of bros

Im genuinely struggling between going dwarf shaman or being a shoeless zugzug ugly bastard for once...
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>>581846026
wdym
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To fix the FPS issue..
Update drivers. I did a clean install (5070ti).
In graphics option, make sure you don't have any target FPS options set.
I've been at least 120 FPS on high/ultra settings since. No dips.
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>>581847604
if everyone is going a production profession, why would you
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>>581847806
All cool things are obviously BoP
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>>581847671
go to a city and it'll dip until you relog
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>>581840454
I tried grouping up with people on the beta, they were all using zoomer lingo, I didn't know how to respond
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>>581848169
I tested, it did dip because of all the chars on screen to 80 FPS, but went back to normal



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