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>Blizzard's new version of World of Warcraft, based on vanilla WoW
>Set in the same Azeroth but expanded upon with new zones, dungeons, raids, quests and much more
>Many new race/class combos including Undead Paladin and Dwarf Shaman
>More than 1k quests added making a 25% increase in quest content alone

>Talent Calculator
https://forevertalents.up.railway.app

>When is it being released?
November 4th

>Beta Guilds
Type /who g-"Guild name" to see who's online, whisper anyone for an invite, or ask in thread.
<wowfg> - PvP, Horde, crossregion but will be on EU on release
<Little Space> PvP, Alliance, crossregion but will be on NA on release

>Old
581906058
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>>581919556
>>581919545
>>581919505
But the item has 0 info on that lmao what the fuck
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>first dungeon has a 26 spell power 1hand
>nooo there’s no power creep
Casters might suck 1-10 but they are broken af after
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>>Old
>581906058
Dumbass

Old
>>581906058
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anyone tried the ultra settings?

/console ffxAntiAliasingMode 0
/console ResampleQuality 3
/console ResampleSharpness 0.7
/console shadowTextureSize 4096
/console reflectionMode 3
/console rippleDetail 3
/console groundEffectDensity 128
/console groundEffectDist 500
/console lodObjectFadeScale 200
/console lodObjectCullSize 8
/console doodadLodScale 200
/console terrainLodDist 1000
/console weatherDensity 3
/console graphicsSpellDensity 5
/console spellClutter 0
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>TBC confirmed
its happening
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>>581918987
the power creep is about removing 15-20 hours from 1-60 with just exp boosts, shillnigger
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>>581919607
>But the item has 0 info on that lmao what the fuck
A lie? In wofg???? Well there's a first time for everything I suppose.
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>>581919616
>broken
Nothing is broken jesus christ you fucking faggots are insufferable
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>>581919520
Where's druid....
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>>581919660
JASAPPERLOT
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Anyone going Druid on release? I had planned to, but after playing beta I think Druid leveling will be much more enjoyable as an alt you can funnel some resources into. Might go Hunter first instead or stick to my true and trusted pally.
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>>581919672
>removing 15-20 hours from 1-60 with just exp boosts
Really? Fucking SWEET!
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Imagine if they added monk, but it's the Scarlet type monk, not the CHING CHONG PING PONG CHINA NUMBA ONE type of monk
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>>581919660
the dark riders will exit the portal with the scythe of elune and take over karazhan.
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>>581919760
Yeah I'm playing Balance Druid Sky Elf Male right now and I plan to have this as one of my release characters.
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anyone else bored of the beta yet?
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>>581919616
>smites mighty hammer has 22 AP and 0.25% crit in forever

Not my classic
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>>581919841
>i got FULL BIS lvl 20
>im bored
Give me your gold
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>>581919760
Yes, I'm playing one in beta purely so I have a general idea of how to play one on release
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>>581919780
Monk would be sick. It's the only time I've had fun healing. Or any type of melee healer really.
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>>581919778
what's even sweeter is in 3 months the game will have level boost, so you should just wait until then to start playing so you can have even more fun since by then you dont have to play the game at all.
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>>581919841
Give me your account then, ill be happy to play beta for you.
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>>581919841
me, bu I have nothing better to do so i'm just leveling characters
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is owl still the best solo pve hunter pet for taunting?
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Lmao the furries from the retail general are on full damage control. "dead on arrival" , "just another hypejob" . Their blizzstore carpets and curtains will diminish in worth.
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FIRST FOR MAKING 3RD WORLDERS AND TRANNYS MAD

>sees 3 horde no shoes attempting to rape female gnome priestess in the The Riverglades
>5 paladins charge in
>all 3 horde no shoe transexual rapist get HoJ
>2 based and CHAD codded ret pallys both judment SoC on single orcgger warrior
>orcs head explodes
>troll rouge tries to sprint but another pally gets SoJ off on him and hes slow
>tfw speced PoJ so 20% faster movement speed all the time
> SoC procs on 800 white crit and hits xim for another 750 holy cirt
>troll rogue now has 2 tranny neo vaginas
>other Sky elf shammy is trying to get away aswell
>the group shockadin ques up DF and pops new spell power trinket for +777 spell power
>one shots the trans shamman
>gnome priestess is saved
>"wow by the light, i was almost raped by those transexual nigger folx, but thanks to the order of divine CHADS im safe."
>"heh no issue lil lady, we just hate to see some tranny freaks think they can get away with being rapist, we know the only reason they went after you is because you look like a child, and everyone knows trannys are pedo freaks and also into dog fucking"
>she nods
>how can i ever repay you
>no payment needed, our reward is knowing 3 less trannys are not able to rape children, or so they thought
>light be with you, and kings honor
>Christ is king
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>>581919915
Nah I'm gonna play on release :)
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>>581919616
They have spellpower bur the base dmg of spells was lowered. Check your trainer, rank 9 frostbolt is doing the kind of dmg you saw on rank 6
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>>581919841
this is fake and you can tell it because actual forever lvl 20 would have blue trinkets as well
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>>581919616
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>>581919965
Disgusting AI image + Basement dweller jobless incel fantasy = disregarded
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Are professions going to be faster (easier) as well then?
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>>581919841
nope.
I have not gotten to lvl 20, but even then, I would level other characters and try out different classes.
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>>581919672
it's all community/trade interactive stuff that puts you in the world. you don't know time to level at all. people are having better and more memorable journeys in Forever 1-20 than any classic/era/sod experience, and blizzard knows it.
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>>581919962
>#nochanges uncs seething
>retoilets seething
>pserver troons priced out
Judging by all the seethe, I'm thinking Forever might actually be the best game ever.
>>581919965
Stop posting this, you're making me want to play a paladin.
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>>581919965
Isn't riverglades for level 40?
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I hope Li Li is in Forever!
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Is the forever lore going to canonize the scholomance guys having the frickin' staff of sargeras (the thing that destroyed outland)?
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>>581920032
They're better if nothing else. LW actually feels worth it now
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>>581920029
>Disgusting AI image + Basement dweller jobless incel fantasy = disregarded

Yep, trannys mad
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>>581920124
Grow up + get a job
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>>581920032
>Are professions going to be faster (easier) as well then?
Doesn't seem like it, not from what I've noticed anyway. But professions are actually good while leveling now, all of them, not just alch, ench and engi at max level.
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blizz replace horde skelf with this, there's still time...
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>>581919616
since they ripped off turtle talents, casters are going to be disgusting 20+
some of the most dangerous twinks were locks and mages in 20-29 turtle BGs
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>>581920106
I would rape her. Just saying.
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>>581920028
>not showing all the spells that didn't get changed but will massively benefit from spellpower
least disingenuous shill
>>581920082
>community
>interactive
there won't be any of that, you get forcibly layered every 5 mins
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>>581920198
whats crazy is that I look like that
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ok crab is pretty strong
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Will we finally see Arachnathids in WoW: Forever?
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>>581920209
>since they ripped off turtle talents
Literally the "I made this" meme.
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>>581920176
Im only lvl 17
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>>581919962
>>581919965
that's just this guy, and the guy spamming furries. on a pass.for about 13 hours today, and 19 the day before.
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>>581919607
your brain must be studied thoroughly
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>>581920283
You're underage
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>>581920230
>shows a spell that has changed and needs extra 100 sp to be equivalent to the old one
how retarded are you ?
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"Mages" bitching is just bots and gold farming thirdies bitching over their source of pennies drying up and you should ignore all mage bitching
Rogue however have legitimate issues that no one seems to be talking about
>stealth detection buffed
>seemingly meaningless talent changes as combat still seems to be the go-to dps tree with the same playstyle
>very little in the way of utility
Rogue needs more attention
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i havent got a direct answer yet anywhere else : did blizz remove downranking?
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>>581920286
Sorry nigger jeet, everyone hates browns and trannys. You have to be absolutely molested to think dudes in dresses or fucking dogs or jerking off to cartoon animals is cool or good, its embarrassing and you should feel bad and ashamed.

Ret pally btw
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>>581919616
>classic max rank chain lightning damage 505-563
>forever max rank chain lightning damage 119-133

They have nerfed abilities to the fucking ground, gear is everything now. I'm not even sure why they changed it so massively, doesn't feel very classic wow to me
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>>581920380
>Rogue however have legitimate issues that no one seems to be talking about
good
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>>581920379
>not showing all the spells that didn't get changed but will massively benefit from spellpower
READ NIGGA READ
>not showing all the spells that didn't get changed but will massively benefit from spellpower
READ NIGGA READ
>not showing all the spells that didn't get changed but will massively benefit from spellpower
READ NIGGA READ
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>>581920283
twinks are literally picrel
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Are any of the new dungeons going to be sprawling mazes like BRD?
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>>581920327
>NOOO YOU GOTTA EXPERIENCE THE ITEM BRO I SWEAR
If an effect is not in the items description it should just not work
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>giving blizzard money when it's just going to be full of bots and rmt again
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>>581920445
>I'm not even sure why they changed it so massively
So rogues and warriors are not the only classes to benefit from gear upgrades.
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>>581920286
Is the reasons jeets are so bad off is because the pride or the inability to have any kind of critical thought?
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>>581920198
Remember when people thought we would get playable harpies?
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give prot warriors intervene and the warbringer talent from wotlk
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>>581920454
post some lets see them
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>spellcasters don't care about gear at all in vanilla
>Blizz rebalanced base damage and gear so that they do in classic plus
>Retards only look at one half of the equation and throw a melty
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>>581920482
HoT is a straight line to the end with all quests available just outside the dungeon portal or inside the dungeon. All dungeons will either be this or be outdoor dungeons reusing an area of the world map.
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triple consecrate damage and give paladins seal of blood
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>>581920548
Thats true. Still feels like they're changing a bit too much
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>>581920632
>HoT is a straight line
So... just like Ragefire Chasm?
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>>581920445
Because before gear was effectively meaningless outside of giving you more mana until near max lvl when SP gear was finally showing up
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>>581920675
>Still feels like they're changing a bit too much
Nah.
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>>581920614
classic wow means no changes
any changes = retail

get this through your thick head
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remove all paladin specs besides holy
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>>581920198
Why do people ever think Harpies could be a playable race, just because you like the models with their tits out?

>No males
>Savage race that can barely talk
>Entire culture is "SKRRAAAAWWW WE KIDNAP AND EAT PEOPLE SKRAAAW"
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I like dotting and then wanding for mp regen an big deeps
2 points in wand spec are worth bigly
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Convince me to play Warrior come launch.
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>>581920726
Then what's the + for?
No one's stopping you from playing regular classic
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>>581920695
Lmfao era anni trannys are not going to like this one.
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>>581920758
I forgot if its this game or dragon's dogma but they kidnap males from all races on azeroth, rape them and then eat them.
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>>581920758
>just because you like the models with their tits out?
yes
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If you look closely you can see a lighthouse in the distance and some buildings, but at this direction it can only be Gilneas. I thought there should be nothing there in this version of the game
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Blizzard did not in fact knock it out of the park with WoW Forever, they shit out the laziest most uninspired blatant cash grab yet with a shelved blue efl recolor from retail while paywalling it, the models are all the pixar disney crap everyone hates and the new class race combos are all diversity driven tranny pandering
THIS CRAP IS DEAD ON ARRIVAL
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who the fuck is alexensual? is he like DSP but for wow ?
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>>581920801
prot warrior will be the most fun spec in the game
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>>581920839
Gilneas from retail is in the game
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>>581920758
Also doesn't their entire race exist because the original primal harpy raped a druid and made him cum inside her so she could give birth to more harpies?
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>>581920841
but it do be lit tho
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>>581920839
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>>581920880
Giwtwm
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>>581920827
Both actually.
Warcraft lore adds the fact that their nest or the general areas they live in stink like hell.
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>>581920758
taurens entire culture is "we were almost genocided by centaurs and we pray to sun"
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>>581920920
>transOh
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>>581920379
>>581920603
>needs extra 100 sp
shlls have no choice but to attempt to lie and hope nobody checks their bluff.

every time, without a fail.
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>>581920839
What
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>>581920876
But why
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>pepsi max lemon
>salt and vinegar chips
we getting COMFY up in here bitcheeees
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>>581920245
damn u cute
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>>581920638
lmao I can't wait for paladins to be the laughing stock when consecration is intended to work like it does
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>nerf casters by making them need a full blue set to do the same damage as before
>meanwhile hunters get 2x weapon damage, pets,spells, etc scales with crit and ap, instant autoshot, traps in combat, 4 sec spider web, armor pen pet, aimed shot baseline
hmmmmm
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>>581920839
>In this version of the game

In classic, sure.
But Forever, which is the old world but with much better draw distance/less sneaky fog to hide the world AND they already know more about the world because they already did it once on retail, there would be.

Its clever on their part because they can take shit like Gilneas, Quel'Thalas, etc., stuff we already went to in retail, and leave these sneaky hints in the world's geography like "oooo I wonder when we can go there". They already picked Hyjal as the first destination.

100% after watching Forsaken Kingdom gameplay a big content drop is gonna be Undead Elves for horde vs Thalassian High Elves for Alliance as they do a northern lord/quel thalas patch later. They wanna go way more into lordaeron in Forever than they did in vanilla wow which felt largely untouched except for a SM and a couple of zombie dungeons in the plaguelands before.
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>>581921082
>need
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>>581920839
>>581920876
It's pretty obvious they started from retail and hacked the old shit in. 2019 classic was the Legion client too, but at least back then they did a proper job removing all retail shit. In Forever right now:
>achievements exists, you can get the zone exploration achievements
>menu has the option for Evoker empowered spells
>retail areas left in the game
>retail UI
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>>581921007
Its free real estate for future content
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>>581919520
>druid completely forgotten
Just like Blizzard...
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>>581921104
How the actualfuck are you classic faggots not understanding that classic is right there. its literally a click away. holy fuck
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>>581920497
keep digging lil retardo, you are breaking new ground in the field of stupidity
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>>581921082
Paladins get a blue weapon with hidden effects

Its just so good
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>>581920758
Yeah screw harpies.
Reskin draenei for playable Satyr!
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>>581920758
Cataclysm ruined them. They've been portrayed as intelligent and sociable creatures that just want to protect the world :3 ever since.
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>>581921082
What you gonna do about it, little casting BITCH?
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>>581920996
>>581920920
>>581920839
Zoom, ENHANCE retards

>>581920976
Peaceful shamanistic bovine race of herbivores vs angry, literally unable to comprehend diplomacy race of savages though.
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>>581921104
I wonder how they made Forever since it's a mix of both retail and classic
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>pizza hut mumbai
>undead paladin
>its gaming time
FOR THE HORDE
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>>581921007
because gilneas has always existed in warcraft lore and was supposed to be in vanilla just like hyjal
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>>581920987
>
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does everyone really seethe this hard? wwyd in this situation
if you fight more than 1 mob but haven't tagged all mobs ofc i'm going to steal it
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>tell blatant lie
>chat is this real?
>get called out for lying
>ignore it or accuse them of being a shill
>tell blatant lie
>chat is this real?
>get called out for lying
>ignore it or accuse them of being a shill
>tell blatant lie
>chat is this real?
>get called out for lying
>ignore it or accuse them of being a shill
I hate the modern internet so much it's unreal
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what causes this game to get shilled so hard, by people who didn't even bother playing SoD, yet who insist the developers have a functioning vision about the game
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you just know faggrend wants to go hog wild with the paladin changes. he wants so bad to put in all the soddy shit that made them hilariously op but can't without giving stuff to other classes too
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>>581919520
Chudman tank here:
I ain't happy they stole my home.
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>>581921214
lol this sissy has gotten raped by casters for sure
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>>581921253
He is >>581921180
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>>581921272
sod was too much + level capping it at 30 was turbo dogshit
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Alliance will be fine to play on the Pve server, right? I'm worried it will be massively horde dominated and I will have no one to play with.
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>>581920996
I can understand not nooticing it in the OG picture, but there's something wrong with you if you can't see them in your image?
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>>581921252
>shill gets his bluff checked
>instantly conceeds his argument
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>>581921272
SoD was different, it was just OP shit ported to 1.12 with all its jank
Forever is in the modern engine with more restrained class changes and rebalancing done, SoD was simply done improperly
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>blueys can communicate crossfaction
>>581921231
this looks embarrassing
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>>581921217
Computer, enhance.
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I've hit level 10.

My first talent choice as a Sky Elf Male Balance Druid.
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why the fuck do the skelf npcs have more hair colors available than players?
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>>581921339
But it was capped at 25, then 40, then 50, then 60
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Is the revenge buff significant enough to leveling as prot warrior viable?
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>>581919962
There's been a seethe thread active on /v/ 24/7 since Forever was announced. We have 5 more weeks of
>it's going to flop and I'm going to laugh
to look forward to before we transition to
>just because it's popular doesn't mean it's good
>shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill shill
>video games... have le fallen...
when in launches
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>>581921217
but enough about orcs
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>>581921415
Maybe those are locked behind faction?
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>>581921364
>>581921339
>SoD was different
it's the exact same, with the exact same devs, with the exact same clueless vibecoded balancing
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big daddy construct
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>>581921417
Not unless thry give back gladiator stance
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hunter changes are so nice
>only feed pet once to green
>never have to worry again
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>>581920758
It's 99% coomers
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>>581921475
you troons live in fantasy land
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>>581921349
They are underwater though
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>>581921272
>Blizzard (Jewish lie peddler): oyyyy yeeevalt just 30$ goooy! I make classic+ good game for you hehehe...
>Spiritually indian streamer(shill): OMG it's popping epicarinooo
>NPC: kino! Shill daddy say it kino!! Home??? Home?
>F&F VLTRA male prophet: it's going to be lefty garbage, stale, and jewish
>Fast forward 3 months
>F&F VLTRA male prophet is right
It's a tale as old as time.
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>>581921349
I think that was a failed attempt at joking about the OG pic being too colorful.
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That's it, I'm going skyborne and hd models on. Enjoy being 5% sdlet and having your mode revoked in December.
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>>581921470
pretty sure all skelf rook same
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>>581921416
Nta, but 25 is even more gay than 30. Imagine not getting new spells/ranks at "max level" outside the few exceptions that happen to get something from talents at that level. Should have been 26 or 24.
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>>581921082
it's very weird
warlock fucking sucks 1-10 and the imp got a gigantic nerf along with corruption for some reason
however as you get a voidwalker or succubus and use a wand the game becomes a joke
Succubus hits for as much as 3 dots alone
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Undead pala might be the play for me. It’s going to be overpopulated to hell but it’s definitely the best 1-30 experience before factoring for pala getting buffed . Shockadin might be… fun

Alternatives are as always mage and warlock
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>>581921475
>it's the exact same
No it isn't, keep your retard thoughts in your retard head next time
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this is the best build for a level 20 hunter
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>>581921459
fun fact. bf6 beta had 500k people and people were saying battlefield is back. that lasted about 2 months.
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I WILL TRY TO FIND MY PLACE

IN THE DIARY OF JANE

SO TELL ME
HOW IT
SHOULD
BE

TRY TO FIND OUT WHAT MAKES YOU TICK AS I LIE DOWN

THERES A FINE LINE BETWEEN HATE AND I DONT MIND

JUST LET ME SAY THAT I LIKE THAT

I LIKE THAT

SOMETHINGS GETTING IN THE WAY

SOMETHINGS JUST ABOUT TO BREAK

I WILL TRY TO FIND MY PLACE

IN THE DIARY OF JANE

AS A BURN ANOTHER PAGE

AS I LOOK THE OTHER WAY

I'LL STILL TRY TO FIND MY PLACE

IN

THE
DIARY

OF

JANE
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>>581921536
Yeah, it's coom eat coom world.
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Is the new campaign for WC3 already out? Just found out I never refunded my copy of reforged.
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>jannies have begun deleting Forever threads on /v/
it begins
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>>581921416
>Change raid sizes from 10 to 20
>Game dies
Kek
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>>581921272
It's being played by tens of thousands who paid for access. Gainfully employed adults, your worst nightmare.
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So this got discovered
(Blade of Silverlain new drop when you use a scroll on it)
Battlemage
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>>581921612
replace the dogshit proc with int -> ap and maybe
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>>581921581
That's how it was for me as druid, the game was just an uphill climb until I got bear form
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i cant see
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>>581921559
No they aren't? Bro you need to get your eyes checked for real. That's called fog, you might remember hearing about it during blizzcon.
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>>581921654
>Melee
>Mage only
What
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>>581921708
cave of sovl.
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>>581921584
Paladin will still be incredibly boring to play
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https://www.reddit.com/r/wowforever/comments/1wmz8rg/the_asmon_community_is_so_toxic/
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This whole Forever fiasco just proves that the only way to make a true successor is to bring back the OG devs. That means Afrasiabi (the GOAT)
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>>581921654
>MELEE MAGE
Now you've got my attention, fuck yeah
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>>581921632
I thought battlefield 6 beta was kinda shit desu, slightly better than before but still DEI garbage.
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>>581921272
SoD was them testing shit for Forever. Why are people pretending to misunderstand it? They literally said so. It was glorified beta test for mechanics and to weight players reaction to changes. Or are you fucking braindead and can't understand this much?
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ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS THREAD
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>>581921643
Came out literally the day of announcement
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faggot ai posts
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>>581921653
many mcdonalds workers enjoying sod 2.0 retail minus tis a tale of time
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>>581921654
>melee mage
HOLY BASED
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>lost insurance so living paycheck to paycheck
>can't afford wow beta
>living vicariously through /wowfg/
can someone give me a qrd on the updated professions? did they get anything good?
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>>581921747
SOVL
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>>581921584
Shockadin is going to be the end game tank build for threat (1int=1sp is that strong) and dps/off heal build. Damage intake will be comically low so you don't need protection DR stuff.
You didn't hear it from this Nazi chud tho.
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>>581921592
>druids easily pulling 6 mobs with le epic "thorn build"
>mages at lvl 20 with 1k hp and 2k mana and 150 spellpower and arcane blast without stacks doing fireball lvls dmg, arcane explosion doing the equivalent of 1-2 spell ranks above dps because they didn't bother adjusting the spell dmg to account their vibecoded design philosophy of lower spell dmg
you are a fucking moron if you think classes won't be pulling 4-6 mobs as a baseline.
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>>581921784
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>>581921747
Nta but because crit is now universal whether it's spell, ranged or melee, humans having inherent +2% crit for swords means even the casters should use swords
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>>581921654
And fun stuff like this will be ruined by metagamers if it's even half decent.
>omg I'm FORCED to play melee mage for max dps
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>>581921754
got him
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>>581921612
the best build is all points in BM because it's the best leveling spec
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>>581921843
crafting profs are pretty good now and worth having while leveling
other profs also have cool stuff, but for alts or at max level mostly
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>>581921562
>>581921559
Holy fuck, I hope that wasn't it because if that's what it was then that might have been the most fail post this general has seen so far.
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>>581921861
>you are a fucking moron if you think classes won't be pulling 4-6 mobs as a baseline.
Or a warrior main.
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>>581921654
Futa Skyborne mele mage... kino
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>>581921901
not over yet heh heh heh
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>>581921654
>Classes: Mage
>Melee only effects
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people are too desperate to hate this game it's giving me the ick
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>>581921654
SPELLSWORD CLASS INC
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>>581921843
crafting professions now get more worthwhile blues while leveling, but they're BoP. they're actually worth learning while leveling. lots of new stuff for alchemy. i've seen very little for engineering or enchanting. food from cooking now gives a 5% XP from kills buff, which is nice.
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>>581921561
extremely reminiscent of battlefield 6 launch hypetard shills

i kept pointing out how they made every map smaller, i got fought every step of the way, the game releases, everyone is crying about how small the maps are, it's not until the ecelebs start spelling out the obvious that reddit/vg turns on the game.

you can really tell the fags shilling this have not been around hypebrain tards enough.
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>struggling between maining Hunter pal mage or lock

Hunter seems really nice with changes, but dead zone is annoying af
Mage is always easy mode
Warlock is always cool but the changes to spell power makes locks so brutally shit to lvl with imp
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>>581921763
Developers of incredible fascism for the skillz and rape.
Vladimir from vanilla plus for the vision of the end game.
Shenna and her team for the ensouled sleaziness.
Dutch is sent to the retail mines as punishment for both him and the retail players.

Tell me this ain't perfect.
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>>581921901
I hate how so many games suffer from this "cave full of smoke" syndrome instead of it being just darkness.
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Imagine unironically playing an alliance warlock
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Zamn! Malygos looks like that?
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https://www.reddit.com/r/wowforever/comments/1wmto4w/my_account_was_just_banned_for_real_world_trading/

LMAO GOLD BUYERS BTFO
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>>581921783
>it was just a beta for the beta ok? it was meant to be shit ok?
>its just a beta ok? it is meant to be shit ok?
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>>581921654
Based
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>>581921754
>sovl
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>>581921921
>>581922002
sick, I always make tons of alts instead of focusing on one character so it sounds like fun
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>>581921948
warriors can already pull 4-6 mobs in vanilla
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDRIWC4etz8
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PALADINS BUFFED
HUNTERS BUFFED
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>>581921763
>This whole Forever fiasco just proves that the only way to make a true successor is to bring back the OG devs.
Who's going to tell him about metzen?
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>>581922002
Leveling a crafting profession will slow you down tho, I only had 60 LW when I hit 20 despite leather being so plentiful. The others must be even worse.
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>>581921563
I'm making sure that my characters look at least acceptable with HD models on.
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Rate my sex elf
She's a recreation of the cinematic sex elf
I love sex elves!
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>>581921786
Wait I'm a retard, it says I still need to buy it, where is it?
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>>581921783
/wowfg/ has a lot of bad faith actors and seething classicfaggots and pserfs
Classicfags know their shit is in maintenance mode, they might still get some resets to milk FRESHbucks and it's open season on private servers since Microsoft has some actual legal weight even in Russia
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Will I get banned for it?
I just want to be a troll with a gun
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>>581922092
Finally
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>>581922084
yes
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>>581922013
About half the changes are shit that doesn't work and has a track record of not working.
Shaman being given tools to tank but told "no", aoe being capped like in retail instead of making the mobs hit harder/have spells to fuck with aoe farming, etc...
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>>581922186
100%, not worf it
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>>581922084
I'm not gonna play this game if skyelves are this popular. I was hoping blizz putting them behind a paywall would make them very rare, but seeing this is destroying my hope.
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>>581919520
What's the OP image supposed to mean? Is mage bad in in Forever?
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>>581922186
If i see you i will report you so
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pov: you're a human female paladin and I'm your dps
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>>581922131
>15min cooldown
Wouldn't call that "baseline".
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skyborn should have gotten the 2% movement speed
you know
because gust of wind or some shit
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>>581922186
if you choose the name i will go into the report without even being there just to report your name bro
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>>581921654
>go through getting a rare scroll
>and a very low drop rate blue
>get a half decent leveling blue

mages are saved guys
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>>581922084
if dwarf male wouldn't be cool no one would play dwarf shaman.
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>you wont find wares of... HIGH HER quality elsewhere
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>>581922216
>making the mobs hit harder/have spells to fuck with aoe farming
Would be so fucking funny if they revert the mage nerfs, but insert hunter mobs everywhere with an interrupting shot on top
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>>581921654
>>581921747
>>581921764
>>581921825
>>581921991
Its a spelling error retards.
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>>581922084
>99.9% of WoW Forever is Undead because of Undead Paladin
bros
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>>581922186
you know you will.
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>>581922413
One of them is my mage...
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>>581922216
i think the aoe cap is just the giga 20+ mob pull cap so you cant flamestrike+coc the entire cathedral. but with current state of game you are gonna have lvl 20 mages in full blue gear just walking around pulling every mob they can and spamming arcane explosion mindlessly, even though they tried to nerf AoE, but are just too clueless on how to do it, just like they are clueless on how to do anything, so you have shit like lvl 38 fireblast hitting twice as hard as in era, but fireball doing the same-ish damage as at lvl 38 in era.
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>>581922273
ughhh the furry patch can't come soon enough
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>>581922403
>Classes: Mage is a spelling error
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Cozy
I don't know anything about the lore but is it normal to have 2 moons at night? There's another to the west.
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paladin
mining smithing
hunter
skinning leatherwork
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>>581922234
This is based on the beta which means people already paid and have the new race. That being the case I assume proportionally it should be less at launch?
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>>581922170
Kill yourself pedophile namefag called Gardener, go back to /b/ and spam your child porn
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>>581922084
doesnt hunter rape paladin ?
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>>581922084
Dwarf resto shamans are going to be the most desired class in both dungeons and raids. I might as well roll one.
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>>581921581
I'm going to be wasting so much time in November when I keep restarting my warlock because I'm autistic about pet names.
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>>581922084
>hunters that high
??????? you NEVER see one.
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>>581922474
god you're cute
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>>581922413
alliance sissies will finally know how it feels to play vs sissydin in BG
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>>581922084
>>581922234
They would be above undead if they could be Horde paladins.
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>>581922541
they are all busy fucking their pets somewhere
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every time i see an undead paladin i group with them and then i dont actually help them and let them die
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>>581922474
Azeroth has 2 moons
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>>581922580
i wish they could be paladins their racials are ass tho
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>>581922483
real original
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>>581922526
>dungeons
yes
>raids
it looks like most raids are going to be 10 or 20 so Paladin is more needed
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wow is just an old game, playing it won't make you feel young again
this game is terrible, looks ugly, the combat is outdated, the community is made of edgy 40 years olds, there's just not going for it
either you realize it now or you'll do it later
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WoW Forever can only use 4gb RAM thats why theres a memory leak
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>level 20 ally fag elf came over to silverpine to kill lowbies
>had to run away for his life with almost no hp left from like 2 level 13 paladins
Expected result or was he just godawful?
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>>581922483
mage
tailoring enchanting
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>>581922216
>aoe being capped like in retail instead of making the mobs hit harder/have spells to fuck with aoe farming
You're a retarded seething booster wageslave who made pennies waging on his mage
Any of those changes made would fuck over normal players who aren't grinding virtual currency to turn into pocket change irl
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had my 2000's numetal playlist on and Rammstein came on and I felt like I could smell the air from 2004 for a minute there.
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>>581922523
paladins have permanent 20% movement speed buff, 40 yard spells, blink and other speed boosts and a total of 5 trinket equivalents
there is zero chance for a hunter to kill a paladin on an equal playing ground
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>>581922593
>>581922624
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>>581922676
But even when leaking it only uses around 2 on my machine before the game really starts to chug
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>>581922625
You gotta be kidding. Wind Fury totem will be goat in every group of the raid. A shaman who can fill both totem and healer roles will be spoon fed gear .
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>>581922216
They hated him because he told the truth
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Sky Elves speaking Darnassian seems like a bug.

Why would Sky Elves be speaking Darnassian?
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5 days of beta and still no content update? hello blizzard???
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>>581922483
night elf rogue
orc tauren cumdump
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>>581922564
kek
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>>581921867
Every healthy man has fetishes. So does our lord and savior, Alexensual
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>>581922508
While majority of beta players would have elves, I think pretty large portion of playerbase may end up buying them unknowingly. At least I didn't saw anything about Forever only costing shared sub on their preorder page. Blizzard seems to try and trick casuals into buying elves ass an access to Forever and they are biggest potential playerbase of sex elves.
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found the bluey trader
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How do I get skelves banned
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They will implement an SD model for the Skyborne before release, right?
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>>581922745
you only need enough shaman so that every melee has one
which should be one in a 10-man and 2 in a 20-man
you need at least two paladins but three is preferable in every raid
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>>581922084
wotf was nerfed. it's a dud vs warlocks, more useful vs priest/war
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>>581922875
no
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>>581922131
Ah yes, 1 tank blowing all his 15 minute cooldowns on 1 big pull for no real benefit
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wow this is so much better than turtle and ASScenion it's insane
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I haven't seen many people in Asmongold's guild on EU servers. Streamers aren't popular in EU.
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to the news of Sky Elves;

"Is this an out of season Christmas Present?"
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>>581921082
Just take a lot at this shit. The powercreep in Forever is insane.
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>>581922745
noone feeds gear to healers
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WHAT RHE FUCK AM I GONNA MAIN AAAA

>dwarf sham
Will be infinitely invited to everything and it MIGHT be fun to play with reworked classes being viable
>undead Pala
sadly overrun even tho it’s the best race and coolest lore class/race combo
>human hunter
Just seems nice on paper with Hunter changes
>Priest/Warlock/Mage
Sovl with Dalaran and enchanting/tailoring/scroll decipher

Too many options! Fuck!
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UH oh the powercreep agenda again... does anybody have the nerfed items in Forever?
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>>581922767
did u read sky elf lore
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>>581922234
>I'm not gonna play this game if skyelves are this popular
You weren't going to play it in the first place, Doom-kun
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>>581922951
>EU servers
Bro you might be retarded...
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>>581922875
Sure, just as they will give all the new enemy models/armors an SD version as well. Believe in Blizzard. They have never let you down before.
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>>581922875
all new content from here on out will not include an SD version, let that sink in
we are living inside the suppression field
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>>581922838
Wait, is that the currency you pick up from the fucking ground? I was deleting all of it lol.
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>>581922374
That's be kino.
Or charges that remove cc and apply a stun lmao.

>>581922450
The aoe cap is a dirty "solution" to an issue they can easily solved by
1. Making mobs hit harder and have spells so end game isn't big unga bunga pulls
2. Rape xp if you have a high level character in party engaging in combat
3. Give mobs cc immunity/enrages (see 1) and ranged attacks so you can't just exploit pathing but slow (which you still can atm, it will take forever but you can aoe farm via path exploits)
It lets uncapped aoe classes keep their identity and also nukes aoe farming/boosting in a permanent way.

The only people who disagree are sub 80 IQ Indian shills and wow forever devs as this would require putting in effort.
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>>581922979
fem human hunter for sex with beasts
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>>581922951
americans are the main characters after all who wants to watch some frenchman go HONHONHON
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>>581922091
We don't take kindly to scalefags here
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>>581922838
lol
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>>581922084
Here is some more data if anyone cares
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ov07yLusCKs

You are a MAGE right?
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What's your number 1 retard race/class combo? For me it's male NE warrior. Usually single digit IQ
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Why the FUCK did they nerf imps into the ground level 1-10

It gets better once you get one of those blue spell caster weapons from RFC/HOT but Jesus CHRIST warlock is so annoying to play 1-10
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>>581923057
yes you get full green gear with stats from him
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>>581923126
humale paladin
but it's gonna be ud pala now
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>>581923103
>use SlopPT
SAAAAAAAAAAAAAR YES COMPARISON NOTES!
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>>581923135
lmfao well good to know for launch I guess. Where's the vendor?
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>>581923040
all of the new armor and weapons and models are SD

why do you guys keep posting this agenda
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>>581922689
>Add more things to do/manage in dungeons
>y-you are fucking me oveeeeer moooommmmm!!!!
Yep! Indian.
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So who will be laughing in November when they remove Skyborne and turn the game into TRUE Classic+, with no changes.
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>>581922979
fem human warlock for sex with demons
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>Euro hours
>Thread goes to shit and doomtroons go up 500%
Noticed
Europoors your threads suck.
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>>581923227
lol
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>>581923132
When was this nerf?
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>grouping/wpvp/instances/camp/anything
>george floyd/charlie kirk outta nowhere
pls kill yourself if your entire personality is politics
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>>581923182
in the house on marked spot
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>>581923203
>literally wages in a 20 year old game
>calls others indian
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>>581923313
report them and laugh as their beta access gets revoked
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>>581923316
Cheers mate
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>>581922979
fem human priest for sex with sinners
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>>581923132
all casters are like this
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>tfw I'm on vacation in Japan first two weeks of November
Should I even bother starting to play when I come back?
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>>581923337
>No reading comprehension
Yep! Indian.
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>>581919616
least dishonest doomer or retarded and im not even sure which
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>>581922084
>pve server
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do I just sub to to retail for a month
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Now post PVP server stats
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>>581923254
its not euro hours for another 6 hours sweetheart
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>>581923415
you can just buy australian mcdonalds for 10 dollars and get a code doe
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>>581923437
It's those pesky beaners and Americans at 3am!
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>>581923283
Did you just randomly open a thread of a game you don't follow? Probably the same baseline nerf that all casters received since it gets stronger with spellpower.
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>>581923023

Alright, so they’re not Thalassian Elves. They are from the exiled Highborne. That’s why they can speak Darnassian.

Fair enough. I understand it now.
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>>581923475
not anymore they ran out of codes
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gnomes Eureka! should reduce soulshard cost of warlock spells by 50% too
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https://www.mcdonalds.com/au/en-au/partner-rewards/world-of-warcraft-forever-beta-key.html

2 hours ago — All available beta keys for World of Warcraft®: Forever have now been claimed and the reward is fully redeemed.
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>>581923485
no? check the time in australia
continents other than the americas and europe exist you silly little nonny
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>>581923254
i only need to take a look at the rampant furfaggotry and literal faggotry going on here during NA hours by opening the previous 2 threads
NA WoW threads are always fucking terrible
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>retards didnt do the australia mcdonalds trick last week
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>>581923589
Europoor... yours is the tranny capital of the world. Nannystate euros can't even speak their minds without getting raided by their government and tossed in jail.
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who gives a fuck if level 1-20 isn't finely tuned and balanced and hyper optimized
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>>581923550
that'll be $60 + tip for beta access now
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>>581923545
you should only get half of a succubus then
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>>581923485
NA neets are some of the worst subhumans I've had the displeasure of witnessing online.
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>>581923545
Agreed but only if half a soul shard is a different item that needs to be manually deleted
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Okay so 3 options really

Join the undead Pala swarm
Pick a class / race specifically to target them
Or at the very least play horde to avoid them

So in vanilla, what class would cakewalk a paladin?
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>>581923650
Retailfucks do
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I wish it let you just go to max level this playtest is ass
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>>581922979
fem human night elf for sex with orcs and taurens
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what do europeans even do?
they make like 5 good things and everything else is american or chinese
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>>581923649
Fuck off nigger take your politics elsewhere you stupid NEET
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>>581923660
>loli succubus
YES PLEASE
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>>581923680
Mage and just stay really far away
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>>581923680
just about any that isnt war or rogue
but also you'll wanna play against them as they're gonna be absolute worst players, easy farm & u dont want them on ur bg teams
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>>581923680
Hunter and Warlock
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>>581923650
>who gives a fuck if level 1-20 isn't finely tuned and balanced and hyper optimized
Vanilla speedrunners do.
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>>581923038
EU layers i meant
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>>581923254
>Amerimutten
Falls for Jewish lies and spams them because they are indian
>Evrogods
Know a Jewish lie when they see one
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>>581923694
world of warcraft forever?
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>>581923707
jesus christ dont give slop guy any ideas
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>>581923680
just dont be close bro all undead pallys are the shitters
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Why would anyone play the beta? Is your life that empty?
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>>581923786
For most of us it was 10 dollars from mcdonalds, are you poor or something?
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>>581923786
>Why would anyone play the beta?
Because I wanted to play it. Simple as.
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>>581923660
Do I still get a full imp since they are small?
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>>581923786
what the fuck else is there to do
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>>581923786
>Is your life that empty?
yes actually
I know I shouldn't touch this game with a ten foot pole anymore for all the bad things it will do to my life but I can't help myself
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>>581923828
I wouldn't play it for free, don't see the appeal of ruining my enjoyment at launch
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>>581922979
fem human mage for sex with arcane tentacles
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>>581923934
It only goes up to level 20 which isn't even the real game yet
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>>581923649
>tranny capital of the world
I see this tossed areound a lot in itt, my guess would be it's all (You), but still, what leads you to this claim?
You have places like Southern America and Southeast Asia where troons have been normalized for generations and you come up with this nonsense?
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>>581923749
>He has to type on the American site because if he typed this anywhere else he gets doxxed and imprisoned in EU
enjoy china and US owning the planet and AI while you guys beg for our scraps
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Which class is the brownest to play?
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wasnt there a skill for hunters where you could see what skills certain animals had?
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>>581923254
>Europoors your threads suck.
I hate eurofags so much
>nobody talks
>crossroad chat is just chinks talking
give me my german server I don't want to be on the server as these peasant races.
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>>581924102
shaman
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>>581924102
Paladin, human male.
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>>581923934
>enjoyment at launch
>even more competition for quest mobs and items
Oh no my enjoyment of 1-20 is ruined....
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>>581922474
Yep Azeroth has had multiple moons for all of the franchise's history. Not sure what the relevance of the 2nd moon is though, other than its a reminder that Azeroth isn't Earth
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>>581924110
zombie culture where everybody hates eachother and intentionally stays strangers thats EU servers
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>>581924102
pala
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https://strawpoll.com/e7ZJaoKNYg3

https://strawpoll.com/e7ZJaoKNYg3

https://strawpoll.com/e7ZJaoKNYg3
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>>581924139
>brown hands typed this post
Shaman is the most aryan class of all.
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>>581924109
beast lore, level ....30 or 40 i think
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>>581924110
Thank God they've given us tools for freaks like you to self isolate.
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>>581924102
tauren warrior for brown fur and class color
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Thoughts on realmless?
I think it's a good concept that fixes megarealms being the only live ones and PvP realms being hyper imbalanced
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>>581921637
why can't piggyback elves be real!?!?!?
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>>581924148
so you hate 1-20 or 1-30 yet you choose to do it an extra time?
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>>581922541
i made 50 hunters to prepare my autistic launch leveling path sorry for bricking the data
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>>581924102
ret pala
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>>581924250
people avoid you intentionally irl and ingame
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boobanon pls trample me in game
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>>581924082
*Invades your site and rapes you*
LoL
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>>581924102
Mage/paladin for sure, look at what streamers main, it’s always a brown or questionable mutt playing paladin or mage
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>>581924180
That would imply other European countries have culture after being raped by Russia for most of their existence, lol.
>>581924250
>plays mmorpg
>isn't social at all
So what's the point in playing an MMORPG then?
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Hunter is extremely brown.
>muh traps
>does zero damage
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brownest?
druids.
autism class for browns and troons
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>>581924324
Survival Hunter is the true retardGOD class.
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femnelf hunnie looking for big black tauren bulls for pvp/duels
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>>581924321
>isn't social at all
You've described germans.
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>it's another amerikike doesn't know the issue is him
Lol.
If you have no friends in EU servers it is because you are brown and we don't want to be near you, like loving freak.
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germans love ffxiv (singleplayer game)
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>>581924242
ah wel
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>>581924260
Compared to realms with multiple layers it doesn't make a difference, immersion already ruined. It would be best if they stuck to really oldschool realm system (single layer) and aggressively merged servers as populations decline.

By the way how is realmless going to work in the EU with different languages? I know tons of german boomers who won't even consider playing if their interactions outside of dedicated national guilds are in English
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>>581924110
>german
You people are cancer in any game you infest
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>>581924469
>like loving freak.
ESL post
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>>581924260
anything is better than what happened in 2019 classic. there were only like two servers that weren't completely one sided after phase 2 completely wiped out factions on dozens of servers
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>>581924410
my gf says this also
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Holy fuck the new campaign is 45 aussie dollars standalone, is it really worth the cash? How long is it compared to the existing campaigns?
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>>581924102
Paladin attracts the most niggers
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Undead Paladin is full of trannies rn btw
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>>581924552
>campaign
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>>581924508
The obvious solution is to clump people by their client language.
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>80% of thread is talking about brown people and politics and trannies
no wonder the soul of true vanilla has never returned, you people aren't the same people you were back then
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>>581924657
Have fun with every french spaniard and russian on english lmao
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>>581924260
not properly thought up like the rest of the game
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>>581921654
Reminds me of something you could do on some private servers where spells/wands and normal melee attacks weren't on the same cooldown, unlike on actual classic. Nobody really used it, but if you timed it properly you could do a wand-into-melee-hit instantly and chunk down enemies with the extra hit. Worked nicely with 2handers on priests.
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>my 3 posts are 80% of the thread!
Go back and stay back.
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>>581924698
Why?
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I report every single offensive name and political chat message I see.
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They've exhausted every possible talking point and are reduced to race and politics spam
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>>581924102
Esfand plays an undead paladin
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Based reportGODs, I can't wait for RP-PVP
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>"gnome is going to be so OP"
>least played Alliance race
>barely beats trolls for last place overall

Can we just have these buffs? You all got something nice, except dwarves maybe.
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>>581922234
I played Skelf in the beta specifically because I wouldn't consider it on live servers
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>>581924884
Streamers.
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>>581924736
sharding/layering is shit
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Bow down to THE ARYAN FACE of Undead Pallys
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>>581924884
>who is this game for?
People who like WoW
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>>581924708
>spells/wands and normal melee attacks weren't on the same cooldown
Spells, wands and melee aren't on the same cooldown thoughtbeit? When I queue wand during arcane missile the 1st wand shot goes out the millisecond last arcane missile fires, it doesn't even get it's own animation since it fires so fast. And at least according to the inbuilt attack timer wand and melee have separate timers.
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>>581924657
That's retarded
It lools like their is a language selection for preferred layering. But public chats are realmwide as far as I know, not per layer.
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>want to play undead warlock/priest
>Tirisfal is going to be too packed to play for 24 hours straight
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>>581924691
zoombians and disgruntled millenials shit up everything. you must roll on a RP if you want any sense of normalcy.
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>>581924884
who's this semen demon
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>>581924617
undead is the fag race on the RP servers for some reason
on argent dawn (biggest eu rp server), there were forsaken guilds organising gay pride events since early 2010s, apparently fags identify with them because becoming zombie is a transformation like becoming gay
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>>581922084
>everybody plays hunter
>nobody anywhere talks about hunter
>nobody streams hunter
>nobody knows anything about hunter
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>>581923132
>1 dot
>imp
>wand
How is this a bad leveling experience? You should see druids early leveling if you want a real bad time. Also the voidwalker holds aggro really well now compared to vanilla so when you get to 10 which doesn't take too long you get one of the easiest leveling experiences out of any class.
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>>581924469
EU is browner than NA now sorry Muhammad thats your faullt
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>>581924918
fat burrito
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>>581922152
>slow you down
retard
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Which class + race guarantees me to be beloved and invited 24/7?
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>>581924992
There's no way that data is correct, I could probably count all the hunters I've seen in the beta with my fingers if I had better memory.
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>>581922140
metzen needed afrasiabi and co. to reign in his retardation but he was just as essential for the world building
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>tfw tauren hunter
i am the only one
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>>581924957
i would if there were an rppvp. the world (of warcraft) needs a grobbulus 2.0
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>>581925094
the group finder is chock full of hunters tho.
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>>581924691
>no wonder the soul of true vanilla has never returned, you people aren't the same people you were back then
Unironic, massive, TRVKE.
Yeah, the game changed, the world changed, but nothing changed more than the players.
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>>581925110
Classic Era thread is on /vm/ lil gup. You can go enjoy your WoW there.
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>>581924957
The normalcy is pedophiliac porn addicted trannies btw.
See >>581924991
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>>581925078
dwarf shaman
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>>581925078
priest
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>>581925078
dwarf shaman
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>>581925110
So what do you like?
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>>581924991
>undead is the fag race
Uh you meant gnomes
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warlock or mage

which one will disappoint me and force me to reroll in a desperate attempt to claim a raid spot?
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>>581925030
>Sub 40% white country
LooooL
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I'm 18 and this is my first time playing.
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>>581925078
Dwarf shaman. Every group wants a shaman. Shaman not a popular class. No one wants to be a dwarf.
People will suck your dick so much you'll get sick of it.
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>>581925260
Mage will do that. Theres always spots for wart clocks
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>>581924941
>realmwide
I guess you mean region-wide?
On one hand, it makes sense.
I guess they could simply add channels like "ChannelName-EN/DE/ES/IT/RU" with them defaulting to your client and you could choose what to join or leave.
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>>581925139
I don't make my own groups, but I do use the groupfinder. I just list myself and get invited within 2-3 minutes yet I haven't been in a party with a single hunter so far. I've seen plenty mages and warlocks that are supposed to be rare according to that graph tho.
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female undead paladin looks like this
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>>581924939
The trick involved doing exactly what you described but with a wands, in place of the as the arcane missiles, and a melee attack, in place of the wand attack, on the same tick. I tried this many times on actual classic servers and it wouldn't work. It would only work on few private servers too.
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>>581925078
Dwarf shaman sissy healer.
Priest dwarf sissy healer.
Druid sissy heal.
In short: sissy heal.
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>>581925302
so go play classic lil gup why are you here? to cry in ESL?
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>>581925302
So you don't like WoW at all and just some bitter invalid in his 30s here to bitch, fuck off, you will not be missed
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>>581925078
Fem human anything for sex
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so is this quest bugged?
cant find the missing 2
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People are hyped about Forever not being solved, but it's not going to be much lessed solved than classic. Not having a bis list available at launch doesn't mean the game isn't solved, it's a minor inconvenience for a few days. All our knowledge of how to manipulate basic game mechanics and all that shit stays, even if they made some changes like removing ticks.
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>>581925302
>go choke on a vomit
brown hands typed this
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>>581925390
have you tried /tar inj ?
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I really want to play Holy Pally (my main) but seems like every fucking retard has flocked to the class
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>>581925309
I guess that would work and in fact the beta chat is called General - English
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>>581925437
>retards flocking to paladin
Some things never change.
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>>581925302
pvp high test mandigo

>>581925421
Pve tranny sissy
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>>581925437
I hope everyone thinks this and there's barely any paladins after beta honeymoon ends
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>>581925437
#NoChange
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>see other druids use teleport: moonglade after talking to the bear instead of walking back
how the FUCK have I never thought to do that
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>>581925323
go open the group finder, select all dungeons and check out the group compositions and then scroll down the list of available players. theres so many hunters. at least on alliance.
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>>581925437
Fits right in then?
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>>581925437
pala has always been the retard class, on rare occasion even huntards are Einstein's compared to your kind
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>>581925503
Probably included in the rested xp addon so they know it by muscle memory now
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>>581925168
Please blow your brains out, you cringe faggot shillnigger
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>>581925491
I play PVP doe. I'm an Orc Warrior GOD
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvcI5Mbd1mc
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>>581925476
Then I suppose we're debating a solved problem.
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>>581925508
Surely it has nothing to do with human getting hunter.
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>>581925437
They are all going to be retardins don't worry
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>>581925434
yea
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>>581921948
>>581922131
Revenge hits for Wotlk amounts of damage, prot warrs will be doing this without cooldowns and without eating to full inbetween pulls.
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>>581925437
90% of them are playing retardin so you can still play holy and not worry
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>>581925565
>>581925573
>I'm brown
We know you are, you came to a thread for a game you don't like just to poop in it, rajeesh.
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>>581925546
Hunters are einstein's what?
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>>581925302
>admitting to liking blood elves
cringe
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>>581925576
not my point. i'm lamenting the fact that despite the hunters popularity among the players it's complete and total crickets on general discussion of the class literally anywhere.
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>>581925302
>blood elves
hahahaha holy trans
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>>581925572
>deathcharger's reins
this is not bussin' at all
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>>581925303
I've never been banned for buying gold, and I'm buying since 2005.
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Damn this classicfag is genuinely fuming, he is SO MAD lmao
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>>581925573
>>581925302
>blood elf player
you go xister!
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>>581925565
>BLOODY BENCHOD BASTARD I FUCK YOU!
Relax Pajeet, go play some vanilla pserver lol.
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>>581924992
i know everything about hunter and no im not going to share i got a launch to prep for
the real answer is it is sheer bots playing hunter
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Where are my PvE Chads at?

How good will it feel being able to mine and gather herbs and skin without being molested by elder millennial shut-ins?
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>>581925727
i haven't seen any bots so far. what would they be even farming? for what? are people buying gold on the beta?
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>>581925732
BASADE
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How is performance so shit?
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classic combat is so slow and dated they should have retailfied the combat.
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UD pally retards ITT be like:
>hunter? nobody plays that
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>>581925732
if you dont have two crafting professions you are a slave
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>>581925362
its gnome priest now since fear ward is on all priests
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>>581925790
Your PC is old
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>>581925732
PvP is fun if you are the one doing the molesting. Plus being able to contest nodes if another faction is trying to get it. On PvE you just have to sit back and watch from the cuck chair if you aren't the one to click first lel
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>>581925795
What the fuck is this little retards problem in the pic?
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Soon the world (of Warcraft) will experience what ive been saying for YEARS

Paladin is the retard class that needs on everything, NOT hunters
You’ll notice them needing on EVERYTHING
you’ll notice how the healer dies / goes oom panic healing himself cuz the pala never throws out his bubble
You’ll see an endless lfg page of ret paladins who will list themselves as dps for 50 minutes instead of just queueing as a healer
In your BGs they’ll just run the flag right into the enemy team

You’ll see
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>>581925302
>belves
I quit in original TBC launch because it invalidated all my stuff in 60 and added flying. But Blood Elves were always Warcraft they were in Wc3:frozen throne man.. this is a secondary post respectfully friend.
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Alliance is so fucking empty wtf
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>>581924319
why do huntards need on agility str stamina and int gear? shouldnt they only take agility?
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>>581925237
no I meant the forsaken, I haven't played in years but originally the only gay pride event going on on AD was called "Tirisfal Pride"
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>>581925790
because blizzard just slapped all kinds of shading and lighting onto a 20 year old game and kinda forgot about memory optimization. at ultra settings my 4090 gets me nearly 200fps but after 20-30 minutes or a couple town visits it's down to 40.
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>>581925861
>Paladin is the retard class that needs on everything
Always have been.
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>>581925861
>In your BGs they’ll just run the flag right into the enemy team
They will pop the bubble, effectively handing the flag over.
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>>581925918
Int more mana
Str more melee
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>>581925807
I always have two crafting professions:

Mining crafts metal bars
Cooking crafts food
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>>581925670
I won't roll hunter, not after what they did to it in SoD. If beast mastery is even remotely viable at any point it will get nerfed into oblivion. People do not understand pet classes and cry endlessly when they lose to one. I also have no interest in ever having to melee weave, and there are too many fucking retarded casual shitters begging for it. It's extremely unfun to have to constantly be switching positions on a boss and does not work with many mechanics. You end up losing all the benefits of being a ranged character.
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>playing PvE
The entire point of gearing is to kill players with worse gear. Why even bother doing nax past the first clear if all you’re using your gear for is… making fighting a computer easier? Standing around in a capital trying to impress people who don’t care? Be a parse loser?
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>>581925812
I'm racist and I hate gnomes.
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>>581925925
>gay pride
Yeah gnomes
>>581925981
Melee weave is dead
Autoshots cast instantly
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>>581925912
that is not white lol
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>>581925785
they are testing their bots for launch obviously
winterspring is full of tauren bots printing lotus and hunter is in general the best class for botting in open world
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>monstercock
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REMINDER PET BATTLES WILL RETURN
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>>581925912
Based pvp mandigo
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>>581925948
but most of your damage is ranged, youre taking upgrades from others for no reason other than faggotry
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>>581925992
>making fighting a computer easier?
Why would I care about killing some unensouled retard who can't even raid naxx?

Where's the sport?
>>
don't reply to that guy or you get banned he spams /g/ and other boards all day every day
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>>581925732
Hope you enjoy watching the other faction taking your gathering nodes and killing your quest mobs.
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>>581925619
Einstein's cock in your mouth.
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>>581926107
Yeah and?
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>>581925912
>his power fantasy is fucking other men
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>>581926171
i see now why lfg is filled with hunters that no one invites
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>>581925992
Why do you not join the army if you want PvP? Too weak?
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>>581925790
Relog.
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>>581925981
>You end up losing all the benefits of being a ranged character.
Because the people that do enjoy weaving want to play an action class. Constantly moving, constantly mashing buttons, constantly turning. But that is not a ranged class, that is a melee. What blizzard could have done to really help out the hunter would be making pets immune to pve aoe(cleave, whirl, curses/debuffs). That right there would be an easy 150-200dps and would make lone wolf an actual choice instead of a no-brainer.
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>>581926096
nothing wrong with pet battles
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dont invite hunters its a solo class it says on the website
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>>581926096
pet battles would actually be kinda fun if they had a little more complexity and were faster
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>>581925573
Learn English, Fagjeet.
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>>581926005
Doesn't matter. I don't trust these retards to not nerf hunter or do some meme shit with it. I'll stick with classes that have clear designs, low player counts (so will be in demand), and don't end up as shit because of design biases. Mage or warlock for me.
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>>581925992
i dont play pvp for that
i do it because its part of the world, it makes the moments an enemy player helps me more valuable
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>>581926107
I play melee
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>>581926239
>equating video games to real world violence
Jack Thompson, is that you? Didn't you get disbarred for being this retarded?
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>>581925981
>not after what they did to it in SoD
What do you mean my serpent isn't supposed to be able to solo whole raid groups????
You had your fun in phase1 and paid the price for it.
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How do I get a girl who
>plays wow
>isn't a blue haired libtard (doesn't have to be right, just a normal person)
>dresses like a ddlg girl (lots of frilly skirts, thigh highs, crop tops with lots of exposed tummy, high heels, etc) and will let me put a collar on her
I just want the dream, bros. Every girl I've ever met who play this game are either extremely fat slamhogs, a raging feminist retard, or heavily autistic in ways that make that relationship fail. Most of the time it's a mix of all 3.
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>>581926312
Paladins are currently OP and people are finding items that mage make OP hunter is fine
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>>581926408
>LIBTARD WAH WAH POLITICS WAH
you americans are so fucking weird
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Blizz should bring back Player Housing, but do it in a better way this time.
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>>581926239
I curl your bench
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>>581926408
travel back to 1985 and steal a teenager and then warp to 2004 and force it to play wow
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>>581926381
>>equating video games to real world violence
>too pussy to fight real fights
LOL
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>>581926096
Funnily enough pet battles would be the most easily ignored feature ported from retail, but classic andys would seethe harder than they would over flying mounts.
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MOUNT AT 30 FAST RIDING AT 60 FLYING AT 3x 60
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casters suck shit to level though because the best thing you can loot in the world is a something with intellect on it, you don't get huge dmg bumps like melee does.
You also can't go buy a blue BOE 2 hander from the AH and call it a day. Everyone is charging your entire coffer for caster weapon because everyone disdains Mages in this game.
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>>581925912
>filename
>no timestamp
awesome repost from reddit saaaar
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>>581924102
Mage>Paladin>Warrior
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>>581926408
My gf is this, i guess just be /fit/ and charming and last more than 5 minutes

Oh and women find guys who aren’t political/wont say sus, just a tip
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>>581926565
Yeah aren't pet battles completely dead in retail?
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If you could add ONE character from later expansion content who would you pick (inb4 Varian).
I'd go with Bwonsamdi, he was the only good thing to come out of BfA and he's an easy way to justify a new Necro class as the Loa of the dead
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>>581925912
>He googled someone elses penis just to own a /vg/ general
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how do we defend this?
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>>581926015
That herb racial was a mistake and needs to be nerfed/removed.
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>>581926565
>classic andys would seethe
Let them this is forever not classic
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>warlocks
>one of the easiest leveling classes especially with the buffed voidwalker
>blizzard combined elements and shadows
>there is a hunter pet that can apply recklessness now
>new reagent bag slot works for shards
>soul drain gets multiple shards
>you can summon people directly into dungeons/raids which you couldn't even do in sod
>amazing in pvp
>one of the least played classes
Warlockchads stay winning
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>>581926630
Which is exactly what the itemisation rework is attempting to fix with spellpower being so much more common, and a higher emphasis on wands too
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>>581926658
I'm 90% sure they didn't even add anything new in midslop.
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>>581926384
Hunter pets were never soloing raid groups. Level 25-40 is peak hunter power, if you had twinked at any point in the game, you would know that. As soon as other classes got the rest of their abilities they surpassed hunters, and the shitty decisions blizzard made at level 25 carried throughout the season. It completely ruined the class.
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>>581926705
Use narrow face option retard
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>60€ for 1 new starting zone
>and (not) blood elves but blue
>Blizzard Entertainment has approximately 4,700 to 6,000 employees

Is Blizzard the only company who could get away with being such greedy jews? How can you have 6000 employees and not make a new class or 3 new classes?
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>>581926096
As one of the few people that actually likes Pet Battles, I'm totally ok with this. It's optional content you never have to do if you dont want to and it gives a reason to go to zones you normally dont to look for pets. Plus the gigacancer pets like the Val'kyr won't be in
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>kungen is 43
holy fuck, certified unc
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>>581926724
Thats good news. They should've just made Wands more of a thing, give them way more damage or something and/or add way more BoE wands.
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>>581926705
i don't give a shit what other people see
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>>581926096
Good, that's real horizontal progression
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>>581926718
>>one of the easiest leveling classes especially with the buffed voidwalker
Debatable
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>>581926671
Varian is already gonna be in Forever, I'm pretty sure the roadmap mentioned>>581926718
something about the island where he's locked up in jail
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>>581926784
anyone who was an adult in 2004 is at least 40 now.
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>>581926784
It will happen to you too.
Unless you kill yourself of course, which seems likely
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>>581926408
why does your description of your dream girl sound like a fucking sissy bimbo ahahahahahaha
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>>581926784
i would've assumed he was like 60 by now so he's not doing too bad
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>>581926630
>casters suck shit to level though because the best thing you can loot in the world is a something with intellect on it, you don't get huge dmg bumps like melee does.
That was actually an advantage of being a caster. Less item depedence while leveling. Just another thing low iq game designers ruined based on feedback from giga nigger retards like yourself. You know why warrior feels like shit to level to so many people? Item dependence. This change just made everyone feel like shit to level, except hunter.
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>>581926705
Customize the HD version the way you find tolerable if you care about what HD users see.
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Just because you have something tanking for you doesn't mean you do any damage or can cleave anything down.
You can have your pet tanking while the Arms Warrior is Sweeping Strikes 3 mobs simultaneously and it's not a struggle, he is going to kill all 3 granted they don't flee away, which is why I level as Fury and use Piercing Howl.
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>>581925305
>Shaman not a popular class
lol, everyone is gonna want to be an enh shaman
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>>581926718
None of that matters because only 2 will be brought in raids for curses. No one will take PvP seriously as people will simply queue bgs on cooldown to fill their bar and get their High Warlord/Grand Marshals.
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/v/ said wow is a long, slow boring game for uncs
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>>581926747
>>581926658
They said they were moving away from it in retail because they felt it was quite under played and under utilised. But it sounded more like they thought they could go back and rework the system and relaunch it rather than abandon it.

Forever is probably gonna lay the groundwork for the new system and retail copies it
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>>581926784
remember him playing hardcore d3 it was so kino.
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>>581926096
So long as they fix them up. Meta's been fucked for years now.
Honestly, they make way more sense in Forever than Retail.
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>>581926934
But we are uncs..
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>>581926950
that was kriparian
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>>581926857
chill out gramps, didn't mean no disrespect
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wheres this from?
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>>581926876
You don't depend on items, you just are a shit slog all the way until you can train and you never get the dopamine rush. Wow, sounds like fun bro.
MMO without the dopmaine of looting, you might as well just go play a fucking Ubisoft game or some shit. You owned yourself.
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>>581926705
>doesn't customize the hd version
>waaah why does it look randomized
adding wow token to era so all the crybooms leave seems like the best solution
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>>581926718
Do hunters still have Quivers/ammo pouches in forever?
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>>581926998
this the shit white people are jerking off to lmao
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>>581926993
no kungen too with dirk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVdabMn-knU
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>>581926761
>>581926890
>>581927027
is this our best cope?
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>>581926806
Granted a lot of classes got easier to level, warlock was already one of the best and got better. Hunter is still likely the best though.
>>581927040
They do and unfortunately you can't use the new reagent bag slot for hunter pouches.
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>>581926907
>everyone = me
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>>581926548
>brappp
Yes, I'm fat and don't want to fight irl.
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>>581924939
I looked more into it and I was wrong. It wasn't that the attacks went out at the same time, it was the fact that they didn't interrupt each other's swing timers. The follow up wand shots wouldn't be slowed down if you timed it right. Still it doesn't matter unless something changed.
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>>581927078
What cope? It's called solution, retard.
HD models have gorillions more options than SD, it's easier to just let people make it their way instead of forcing it like they used to with worgen forms.
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>>581927078
>cope
All weird faces are fixable with narrow or round option RETARD
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>>581927134
enh shaman has the most talent calculator submissions of any spec in the game
which is extra egregious when you consider that the enh tree is pretty straightforward and no one's gonna dip into resto or anything with it
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>>581925912
>>581926998
I would healslut for this...
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>>581926998
>Downloaded someone else's penis jerking off to blacked horse porn
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>>581925503
Because you have a soul
I never thought to do it either, I just like walking around Moonglade...
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>>581926718
123
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blizzard should do a little trolling and retroactively ban anyone who bought gold in classic / anniversary
would remove most of the seething crybooms
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Early Name Reservation will be available from October 27 through November 3, 2026, for eligible upgrade purchases.
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About to play WoW for the first time in 10 years. What am I in for?
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>>581926239
>Reee fight for israaaeeel
I ohp your deadlift, cuck
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>>581927221
>talent calculator submissions
Oh you are that retard.
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>>581927303
WoW
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>>581926907
>lol, everyone is gonna want to be an enh shaman
Haha, sure they will. They're going to love being endlessly kited in PvP. They're going to love all the keybinds for all the totems. They're going to love the inevitable, guaranteed nerfs to DPS and being middle of the pack AT BEST. Oh and let's not forget most guilds will demand you have a healer offspec, and they will demand you use it. This is the enhance shaman experience. Most people just aren't made for the enhance shaman life.
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>>581927328
>I ohp your deadlift, cuck
sure lol keep thinking about jewish cocks though
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can anyone who’s played high level classic shadow priest tell me if that shit is fun or not? I normally play druid but I might wanna shake it up for forever, they seem comfy to level and I like the flavor
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>>581925861
Yeah I pretty much had to blacklist every Paladin from my groups while leveling in dungeons during 2019 Classic. They just need on absolutely fucking everything for their 10 different sets (of which they will use a grand total of 1 - their ap ret set) just because they can equip it. I've never really had Hunters do this, it's always been paladins.
The moment I stopped grouping with them my time in the game improved significantly. Unfortunately you kind of have to raid with them but they knew their place and could only take healing gear. In battlegrounds they're fucking USELESS unless it's a premade. Seriously like tits on a fucking bull useless.
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can someone AI lip-sync a blue skyelf with a brown pixie cut to a 30+ minute soft mommydom asmr video off youtube
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>>581927328
Wooow you're so manly! Fags must be throwing themselves at you wanting to suck your tiny cock
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>>581927284
They should just do gold caps and ban people who receive gold from gold capped players and if they receive too many separate transactions they all get banned.
Not sure why the gold cap is high.
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>>581927303
Fun hopefully
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if your class has any utility besides dealing damage and taking damage then you are a woman and your job is simply to serve me, the warrior
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>>581927421
can we not do this
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>>581927387
Niggers in BGs will cry endlessly about you not healing
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>>581927469
ooh i love a bunnings snag
gimme all the burnt onions
om nom nom
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>>581927439
okay sissy keep battleshout, demoshout and sunder up for real dps classes
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>>581920380
rogue will still be able to kill lowbies in stonetalon and redridge at level 60 which is what every rogue main does for 18 hours a day anyways so I dont see why you are bitching
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>>581927336
>heavily overrepresented in both talent calculator results and actual beta census checks
what more do you want? your headcanon isn't proof
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>>581927556
Warriors can't do that due to being rage starved completely. You literally can't even Sunder. Also, Sunder is doing ZERO threat in Forever, no one knows if its a bug or not, so no one is pressing that button unfortunately.
Take it up with Blizzard, chud fuck.
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What tends to be the most in demand role? healer or tank?

I'm gonna be relatively new so anything I can use to get a leg up and have people not mind me being dogshit or being willing to teach me is something I'll take advantage of.
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>>581927556
battle shout makes me do more damage
demo shout is druid work
sunder is rogue work
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orc mage is the most niggardly class btw
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instead of putting minimap quest faggotry into forever blizz should have banned questie and killed its devs
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>>581927673
Tank 1000%. Literally every female, gay and bi person will be a Druid/Priest and all of the Pallies will be ready to go Holy if they're shitters.
That's why all the 2 handers are dirt fucking cheap in every version of Classic.
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>>581927673
both for dungeons, but most raids will have their tanks.
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Newfag here.

What is the point of water? This shit sucks I can just wait instead
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>>581926705
>posted it for the 50th time this week award
Eurotranny...
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>horde bgs will have on average 5+ undead ret shitters running around like headless chickens
if you are not going alliance hunter you will miss the most fun part of the game
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>>581927782
Wdym water
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>>581927809
hf getting oneshot by ret paladins because all devs play one
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>>581927782
you’ll have to wait an annoying amount of time as you level up. and think about it, okay, waiting for 5-10 seconds after every kill. go ahead and kill 300 things (you will be killing much more Han that) and see how much time 5-10 seconds ends up being
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>>581927731
you know blizzard had Quest Helper working on the beta branch WoW in vanilla right?

questie is therefore belongs in classic
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>>581927646
that has always been the case for a sub-level 30 warrior. low level prot is not even remotely as bad as it is in vanilla classic though even at level 20. you could never dream of holding threat on 3+ mobs in deadmines before and now you can do 4-5 just fine pressing tclap
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I need a mount

Walking is TEDIOUS AS FUCK MAN
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>>581927975
go back to retail
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>>581928017
>>Walking is TEDIOUS AS FUCK MAN
>the retoilet player
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>>581927782
If you mean shit for mana regen then it's so you can be ready to blow your load on another enemy faster. Especially necessary on pvp realms or BGs so you don't get raped (you will still get raped).
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Setting view distance to max assrapes my frames and barely looks any different
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today I walked for 20 minutes and was exhausted, walkable cities when
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>>581928080
FUck off
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>>581928123
cause it's not viewdistance it's render distance and it's rendering all the shit you can't see cause it's not in your viewport.
Devs have completely lost their minds and have no idea what settings mean. But that's what we get for outsourcing to SEAmonkeys and SAARS
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>never seriously played vanilla paladin before
>barely played wrath paladin and wasn't wowed by it
>find undead paladins cool so I level one to 20 on the beta as ret
>it's kind of boring
>the entire time I'm thinking how it would actually just be more fun to play arms
>but the few times I've had to tank it was actually pretty fun
>I like warrior prot tanking too but this was more fun
>I also like to heal
>and this entire time I was convinced I would main lock
>still want to main lock
>tfw came out this expecting to have solidly picked a class but now I'm even more indecisive
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why does everything in retail wow feel so weightless and meaningless

it's like they don't want you to care about actually playing the game
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>>581928123
I have it on the lowest and then /console volumeFog 0 and it's the exact same appearance as max with volumeFog on lmao. But I get max fps
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>>581927782
>what's the point of waiting shorter when I could wait longer
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>>581928187
Auto attack paladin is real basically this still applies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yH8anaw7Lao
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>>581928198
Because the game has lost all meaning, the only content anyone meaningfully engages with is m+, so everything else is designed to funnel and ferry you to that point, or offer a brief respite from that content.
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>>581927389
I feel like druids never pulled this shit either, despite having justification to need like 3-4 sets.
They'd always check if anybody needed gear for mainspec first before taking offspec loot
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anyone else play in first person or just me
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>>581927673
Dungeons tank
Raids healer
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>>581927782
Water maintains your bodily functions
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>>581928438
yeah and with a controller
feels like playing oblivion on the xbox
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>>581928187
I want to play paladin but I feel that a quarter of horde will be undead paladin. At least 95% of them will refuse to heal or tank.
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>>581927389
>WAHH WAHH
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>>581928463
>>581927754
>>581927770
so with this in mind, would I be best off making two characters so I can learn the content with each? Like, make a tank then level it to max, then do a healer with knowledge of dungeons, then try to learn raids with a healer, then move to trying to tank that raid?
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>>581926718
Warlock
>10 buttons to deal mid damage
>pet management is extremely annoying, costs a ton of mana and time
>new demo talents make this worse, you'll need to summon 2 pets every death and will burn through shards extremely fast. Not viable at all for raids or bgs
>can't break stuns
>can't break slows
>can't break snares
>no way to stop casters from dispelling all their dots
>dispel has a long cd and is on one pet
>have to switch pets for a cc, 10 seconds
>have to switch pets for any protection spells, 10 seconds
>orc racial now makes dispels of warlock spells even more common
>fear ward is base line for all priests
>have to log in early to farm shards just to spend them all summoning everyone else
>only need 1-2 per raid for coe and cor
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>>581928142
I sometimes go out and walk 4-6 kilometers for fun. You need your 10k daily steps, mang.
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>>581928198
pvp or pve?
>pvp
people complained about being 1 shot for years + everyone has a heal and defensive so every fight comes down to cc or dampening
>pve
whatever you do the content will scale in some way, so gear numbers go up damage goes up but so does the npc's health
you trade that natural feeling of progression for feeling a constant challenge, for better and worse
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>>581926784
all wow streamers are super old. Payo is like 42
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>>581928198
because most of the players only care about raiding and mythic+. itemization doesn't exist anymore because it would cause imbalance in m+, classes are tuned usually within 10% margin of each other to keep m+ and raid balance (though this goes very wrong sometimes), professions only exist to make your 2 mandatory embelished pieces of equipment for m+ and raid. this is why that fellowship game was popular for a while, strips all the other work and you just get the gameplay of m+ that people wanted
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rmy dick was never the same after seeing these pics as a teenager in 2007, forever doomed cum to night elves
https://litter.catbox.moe/2km04r.jpg
https://litter.catbox.moe/jalkxc.jpg
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>>581928365
this mainspec offspec think is stupid in classic. Just because I'm healing your stupid ass in a dungeon doesn't mean I'm not entitled to agi gear for my solo questing
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why?
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>>581927782
Don't fall for the waterjew I'm a human male Retribution Paladin and I never carry around water like a third worlder

Just use less spells and you don't need that chlorine faggot juice

I removed all faggoty non-damage per second, healing tranny support shit from my bars and never looked back, never had any issues, I'm a Rank 1 Gladiator AotC Mythic+ world FIRST Raider in retail btw
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FIX THE REPORT SYSTEM ON GOD
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>>581928628
sky elves will steal all the cum in forever
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It's funny seeing classicfags talk about Classic 2019 as if it makes them some sort of veteran
Real stolen valor shit, you will never be a real vanilla player
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you wont find wares of HIGH HER quality around elsewhere
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>>581928653
hiding in plain sight that it's a retail game and not classic
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>>581928653
Fortnite is to blame
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WowF a game made by R3dditors for R3dditors
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>>581928187
best to play a clothie like a lock at the start since everyone will be competing for gear as paladins. Not just in dungeons or groups but on the auction house too.
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>HE PLAYS IN 16:9TROONERY
4;3 GODS
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>>581928725
We know it's not classic, that's why we're playing it
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>>581928739
He should be an irony poisoned crybaby instead of enjoying working on world of warcraft instead!
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>>581928725
pretty sure that's not retail icons. they just made new ugly icons for no reason.
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>>581928716
I played vanilla 2005 and classic 2019, classic 2019 was the closest to vanilla. Nobody min maxed everybody played to have fun.
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>>581928739
The small fix was a 25% damage buff to paladins.
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>>581926705
I can`t fix this mess
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>>581928884
Narrow face option RETARD
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>>581928808
>irony poisoned crybaby
fuck dude you just described at least 40% of the wow forever audience
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>>581928848
>Nobody min maxed
>in classic
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If you believed the -newthingrevealhypemanpromises- about them permabanning gold buyers, you've just been epicly pranked, retard.
They simply wont, and they wont ban bots either. And the bugs always find a way to sneak botting in the game.
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>>581928739
how dare he be enthusiastic about wow
kill him in my honest opinion
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>>581928716
i played for a couple weeks in 2005 but my mommy didn't buy me more game time after that
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>>581928727
>>581928817
The one on the right was made in WOD when they "upgraded" the character models
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>>581928014
You should take your post and reframe it as "calm the fuck down, retards, the cap for beta is 20" because your post applies to everything. No one should be doing anything important because you're literally level fucking 20.
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>>581928548
Or you could roll druid or paladin and do both as you see fit
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>>581928752
I wish classes other than warrior/druid/paladin could tank since they're always so overplayed. I guess druid would be the best since you wouldn't have to compete against the hordes of warriors and paladins. Hoping for Shaman tanks at least.
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>>581927782
>I can just wait instead
kek I did this in vanilla. playing a warrior no less. it was painful.
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My Class? Hunter
My Pet? A parrot (idk owl or something)
My Name? Mister Cotton
My Pet's name? < Mister Cotton's Parrot >

Find a flaw
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Is there a threshold at profession levels at 49? I have herbalism at 49 and can't get to 50 by picking herbs that are yellow. It should level up right
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>>581928905
Am I kawaai yet, sempai?
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>>581921654
>fire additional damage
GOOD MORNING SAAR
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>>581929112
NVM I guess it was just RNG I finally got it after countless attempts
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>>581929091
>Sergeant Mister Cotton
>Mistercottonsparrot Mister Cotton's Pet>
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>>581929091
you cant have mister in your name
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>>581928552
Most of this is bullshit. It's easy to maintain shards. You don't need to swap pets all the time.
Pet management is extremely easy.
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>>581929091
>Noo I died to a pet blizzard nerf pls
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>>581929171
What about... Miister?
HAH!
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share your UI preset
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>>581929124
>The poison
>The poison for Baron Sablemane
>The poison chosen to kill baron Sablemane
>That poison
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>>581928968
only pserver tards did.
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>>581922084
horde will be liteally unplayable in BGs like it was on pochie
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>>581929261
Uhhh the standard one? Not sure what you mean
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>>581929171
>>581929256
Saar
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>Neet
>Up during EU hours
>Nonstop seethe about NA and false superiority over nonsense
every time
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>>581922131
that's wotlk you fucking retard
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>>581928640
It's fine if you tell the group upfront of your intentions and they are cool with it.
It sucks being a mage/warlock then having a priest nick all the spell damage cloth because, yo bro I need this to play shadow hurr.
If you don't tell your party up front then everybody will assume you are here to get gear for the role you are currently doing in the group
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>>581929297
>bro doesnt change it at all
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>>581929261
Default one. Only trannies change their uis.
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>>581929204
What part is false? If you go demo you will need to summon a pet, sacrifice it, and then summon a second pet. In a BG you will have to do this every respawn. It will be extremely obnoxious and burn through shards very fast.
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>>581929272
Kek
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>>581929321
Most Euros are at work tho. I should work as well but I'm in home office
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what are the absolute minimum must-have addons? i want to play as close to default as possible. auctionator is a given.
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>>581929323
and Forever is wotlk at 60, your point?
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can someone lend me 10 million gold
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>be hunter
>struggle through 1-10
>get pet
>breeze
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>>581927782
water is useless unless you're shaman
the other magic jobs can just wand (most of them) or turn into a cat and beat shit up (druid)
wand is bis until you get enough spell damage to outdo wand damage, which is probably somewhere in the level 30-40 range
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>>581929398
restedxp
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>>581929394
most euros i know who play wow live on disability or neet with parents desu
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>>581929398
peggle
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Are Dishonorable Kills in Forever? I haven't heard or seen anything about this, but it's kind of hard to find a civilian at level 20.
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>>581929321
The only people posting from EU now are also neets.
But thanks for confirming the state of mutt public education.
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>>581929442
Most Europeans I know that play WoW have good jobs actually
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>>581929417
don't you have friends you can ask?
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>>581929354
You only burn through shards fast in pvp if you are popping shadowburn off cooldown.
And oh no woe is me it takes me an extra 15 seconds to get setup again after I die?
Not like priests are deleting half their mana bar to rebuff every death.
Nigga use soul drain and make more shards. Jesus christ
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Are transmogs accountwide?
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>>581929508
>The only people posting from EU now are also neets.
No such thing as EU NEET who survives off of welfare unless you're a brown mohammedan, but those don't play wow, God forbid go on 4chan.
It's actually employed people who can post while at work.
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>>581929720
lol that's a lie half my guild in 2019 classic was scandis living off welfare
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>be europoor
>can't asked for asmon layer
>can't join asmon layer
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why would i want to be on asmon layer
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For me It’s male orc warlock SL/SL total wpvp domination
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>>581929720
So bongers count?
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>>581929720
>but those don't play wow
kazzak on retail is like 50% arab, and there's a reason twisting nether is called turkish nether
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>>581929720
I probably wouldn't qualify for welfare. American NEETs have it so good. I'm jealous.
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>>581929698
yeah and achievements, except hardcore is separate
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>>581929838
JOEL IN SKYPE
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someone make a new thread
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>>581929838
Same this shit is so ass
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Just visited UC for the first time.
Why is there a tiny but constant dribble of alliance suiciding themselves at the front gates?
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>>581929838
We're all on Guzu's layer.
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>>581929858
To overload shards, cause phasing shenanigans and troll players.
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>>581929863
Bongistan is a part of Europe.
It's as if California voted for independence and won, and suddenly stopped being a part of North America.
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>>581929946
they saw the shit asmon did a few days ago and want to recreate it or think that it's still going on.
You know, normalfags desperate to be "part of the world".
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feels good to be a neet in europe
white btw
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>tfw tauren female hunter and nobody invites me
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>>581929946
They're going to the dungeon in the courtyard.
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>>581929946
trying to get into the lordaeron dungeon
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>>581929674
play normal class
>die in a BG
>respawn
>mount up
>go fight again

Play warlock
>die in a bg
>respawn
>summon pet
>sacrafice
>summon new pet
>create health stone
>-3 shards
>drink and eat to recover
>finally mount up
>go fight again

It takes an extra minute to fully summon pets, and eat/drink to full after doing so for warlocks. Every single death. It's a slog to play.
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>>581929989
More accurate comparison would be if Hawaii voted independence and stopped being part of North America.
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>>581930023
i can invite you into my tent :3
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>>581929814
I guess I didn't factor grown ass men who leech off their parents.
Also there's wagies who are on their afternoon/nigh shift, so they can post during mornings.
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>>581929946
toxoplasmosis
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>>581930020
How much do you get /month?
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>>581929994
>>581929946
there is a dungeon above undercity
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>>581930120
i get $2000 free burgerbux every month in USA
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>>581922186
should you bother playing a game where that would get you banned?
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>>581930023
whenever i see a female tauren hunter or druid i assume it's somebody's older mother's character that likes to run around and pick herbs
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I love Tanking. I love Healing. I love being self sufficient enough to do harder World content solo. Paladin should be perfect for me but he's so fucking boring. Why'd they make them so boring?
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>>581928993
I cant wait for this homo’s meltdown when forever eos.
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>>581927127
I know soulshards and ammo bags were added as a bit of a "balancing act" to the fact that warlocks and hunters get a 2nd unit to control to make solo'ing content far easier, but I feel like asking hunters to give up an entire bag slot is a bit much

Maybe they can do a fun fix like give hunters a summonable turtle or bird or something that has some inventory pouches. Maybe less than a bag but added convenience of having a mini remote-bank access
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What do we think of Mage Orcs? Niggers?
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>>581930216
embrace the boringness palabro.
just know youre better than everybody else without even trying.
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>>581929518
>we work at le bakery for 11 dollar and can afford a car in 17 year if we work hard
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>>581930216
play druid then
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>>581930063
Go back to retail then.
If you are dying so often as a warlock, especially in demonology spec then you fucking deserve it
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>>581927782
This is hilarious

>Whats the point of hydrating I can just die of thirst instead
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>>581930285
fat niggers i block
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>>581930254
Can't wait for 2027 either geggigy.
>Yfw Cucks here think forever will get a new class
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>>581930063
>>>581930403
Bro is dying as a WARLOCK
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>>581929508
i dont care about anywhere else in the planet that isn't america. you are irrelevant to me
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do healer leveling spells get fucked with the lower base damage but more spell coefficient changes as well? I know its meant to cancel out but don't we get spell power at a fraction of the healing power?
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>>581930403
its not getting a new class, but melee battlemage will be a thing (see Coldflame Saber)
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>>581929272
My sides
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>>581930496
Yeah lil sis.
And shaman will be a tank.
Pffhahhaha
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from what i've seen so far the only thing i'll be playing forever is era
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>>581930360
I do play Druid. They suck ass till Bear then they kinda suck till cat. Then it finally feels like a character at like level 24.
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>>581930548
sorry saar but Coldflame Saber exists in-game right now >>581921654
and is a melee mage weapon
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>>581930023
Show milkers
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>>581930582
>They suck ass till Bear
So what like 2-3 hours of gameplay?
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>>581930571
bye felicia
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>>581921654
Hear me out... We've tested mage healer in SoD, so how about mage tank? Mage/magic armor is a thing in every fantasy setting with a mage + barriers/mana shield. You would be blasting niggers with instant casts.
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>>581930496
>Shaman, lock, rogue aren't allowed to be real tanks
>Mage heal isn't allow
>That's sod slop!
>T-theyll totes add and support a melee mage spec!!1 (reason: one (1) item)
Jugalgjiji
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>>581930479
obviously questing solo as a healer is a very bad idea
either you run dungeons or quest as a party if you want to stay healer from start to finish
most people just level as dps and keep a healing gear set in the bank for dungeons
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Will EU win the Forever world firsts? Is it our time bwos?
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>>581930496
>but melee battlemage will be a thing
Doubt it. But it would be cool. Something a bit like a cloth enhancement shaman with mostly instant spells.
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>>581930453
>>581930368
You have absolutely no mobility, or defensive cooldowns. Of course you're going to die.
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>Saw some orcnigger kill a random bunny for no reason with a fireball
REPORTEDDD
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>>581930586
it's a 1 off item for fun flavor, they're not going to design a spec around something like that
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>>581930109
most of them were mid-twenties dudes living on their own
in scandinavia if you're diagnosed with autism, anxiety, depression, anything that would prevent you from working at 100% you get enough to live by off the state. it's not a lot but it's enough to survive. some of them were on essentially a permanent sick leave getting paid enough to live by off because they can't fire you.
it's literally life on easy mode, in my experience 90% of the top players on EU were swedes/danes living like this
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>>581930706
but i don't die. i'm not bad at the game
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>>581930586
>One meme level 21 item=new spec!1!
Hahahha
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>>581930687
Seeing as we're all on the same server they can't give NA a 1 day headstart, yeah probably.
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>>581930779
>muh head start cope
they watch liquid down the first boss then copy their strat and addons and end up near the same place almost immediately.
liquid outplays EU every year.
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>>581930687
KANGEN himself will lead the charge and show those retoilet babies they have been playing easymode for a decade
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>>581930736
>it's literally life on easy mode, in my experience 90% of the top players on EU were swedes/danes living like this
Interesting correlation with the most successful guilds being scandi
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>>581930779
>Seeing as we're all on the same server
That's for beta only retard.
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>>581930661
Sorry that's dumb.
You get 3 tanks and you'll be happy, none of you played the sod meme tanks.
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>loses first world first in years by trying to desperately cheese a boss using an exploit
the most european thing to do is cheat trying to win and still lose
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>>581930679
>run dungeons to level
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>>581930706
You just suck. I played hundreds of hours of warlock in classic.
Just do yourself a favour and pick mage if you want the game to suck your dick for you. It's shortsighted add riddled cunts like you that ruined WoW in the first place
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>>581930851
>That's for beta only retard.
Really? :(
I enjoyed playing with the Aussie cunts.
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>>581930771
>>581930720
Why don't you WANT a new spec to exist?
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>we nerfed dungeon xp because we know better than you about whats the most fun
>no you cant have shared mob tags
>fuck you tanks and healers
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>>581930687
The megaserver will have the same maintenance times??
This is important
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>>581930921
You can still play with Aussies if you can find them.
OCE and US are linked, but aussies will be sharded to oce by default
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>>581930960
>Kills 5+ specs
>Makes it amply clear they don't want to add new specs
>Retard thinks they'll add a new one
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>>581931040
>>581931015
name the 5 specs they killed shitter
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>>581930960
>Why don't you WANT a new spec to exist?
new thing bad
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>he isn't on the secret pvp layer with 24/7 ashenvale raid battles going on
Lmao, lol
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>>581931040
If anything they added specs by making mele hunter the survival tree.
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>>581919660
töte das koboldgezücht, anon
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>>581930990
Just level as dps! You can heal in end game.
Fuck you tank chuds tho.
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Those off-the-market beta keys, do they include the smurf race?
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>>581931040
>>Kills 5+ specs
What specs have they killed? Because I can think of several they've made viable.
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I play on controller btw
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>>581930960
i wouldn't mind it but there's also no need for more if they're fixing the ones that were practically unusable before
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>>581930921
Yeah betas have always been NA only. This is the first time a beta becomes YUGE fucking thing rivaling launch itself so maybe it will change in the future if they keep monitizing betas. Which they'll probably do since this was pretty succesfull.
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>>581930882
>you cant do something that is not optional
>you just cant my favorite youtuber said so!
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>>581931191
name the unusable ones shitter
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>>581931072
Rogue tank
Shaman tank
Warlock tank
Glad warrior
Mage healer
Smite priest

N i g g e r. You are Indian and low IQ. Kys.
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I seriously hope they never add new classes, Blizzard has never been able to balance 9 let alone more, it adds nothing of value to the game.
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If you get reported too many times it automoves you to a dead layer
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class/spec for this feel?
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>>581931247
Fury warrior, combat rogue.
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>>581930990
You get like 2 whole levels from the quests alone. That's almost enough to jump from dungeon to dungeon.
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>>581931247
prot warrior
boomkin
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I can't believe we got Classic+ before BBPNTR. Takeda is really slacking
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>>581931163
you dont need to pay anything extra once you are in the beta, no sub, no blue elves, nothing
>>581931271
>you get rewarded for being naughty
based?
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>>581931227
>Dungeon XP ultra gutted past first run
>Erm it's oka-
No. Kys dpsissy.
High dungeon XP is meant to reward group play and leveling as high responsibility roles.
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>>581931283
Blueberry warrior / rogue. Horde priest.
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>>581931265
>I seriously hope they never add new classes
There's always era for you. Nothing ever changes there.
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>>581931283
tauren hunter!
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winds howling
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>>581931265
The game isnt balanced at all so why does it matter?
>nooo don't add new thing new thing le bad
You would be the first who tries out a new class retard.
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>>581931283
destro warlock
marksman hunter
sub rogue
arcane mage
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>>581931227
It's not that it's not optimal. It's that you will get basically no experience at all per dungeon run. The xp per kill in dungeons is practically non-existent.
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>>581931283
Female Tauren, any class.
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>>581931283
Shaman tank (totes viable, just let me grief the entire party).
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>>581931389
I want more content and support for the existing classes. Adding more classes is akin to adding more continents in my eyes. It directly competes with existing classes instead of enhancing them.
If you want retarded gay classes then there's always retail for you.
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>>581931261
All of these work.
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>>581931147
I will never play dps in this game as long as tanks are a thing.
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>>581931406
wash yer bak
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>>581931265
They won't add shit.
I can ensure you that.
This is going to be sod-.
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>>581931283
I don't get what this meme is supposed to mean.
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>>581931406
The small racist chuddler
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are all ESL also ALS
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I hate that I now have to choose between a piece with int on it and a piece with sp on it. All the good SP pieces only have stamina for whatever reason. Oh great, yeah I can slightly heal/damage more, but now I'm oom 24/7, and if I go for int then my spells do fuck all. Great.
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>>581931406
>>581931531
Man those models were so ugly. Glad we have HD graphics
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>>581931605
Hunters won
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I use HD models. Its better
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>>581931710
Same brother
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>>581931365
>NOOOOOOO IT'S NOT ENOUGH THAT ONE DUNGEON QUEST GIVES ME 60% XP AND AMAZING GEAR AND IT'S NOT ENOUGH THAT I ALSO GET GEAR IN THE DUNGEON I SHOULD ALSO BE ABLE TO SPAM THEM ALL THE WAY TO SIXTY FUAAAARRRKKKK
Back to retail you go!
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>>581931605
Going SP works on my machine. The harder you BLAST the fewer BLASTS you need to kill mobs so it balances out in the end.
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I dont care about models, I play zoomed out
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>>581931620
>:(
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>>581931710
brave
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>>581931710
>>581931725
Same brothers
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>>581931474
>I want more content and support for the existing classes
They're already doing that. And there's only so much they can do with existing classing without making them more complex, which you would call retail-. The same can be said with existing zones. At a certain point new classes and zones are necessary.
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>>581930893
>pick mage
>have to deal with none of the warlock bullshit
>can counter spell without a pet
>can cc without a different pet
>can get an absorb shield without a different pet
>can break stuns
>can get immunity to all damage
>has best aoe abilities in the game
>has multiple snares and slows to maintain distance
>has mobility to create distance
>drops a single portal at the end of a raid which can be purchased from a vendor
Why yes, I think I will play the superior class.
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I prefer classic models and animations I HATED the new animations in wod
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NEW

>581931781
>581931781
>581931781

NEW
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>>581931496
Lmaoooo
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new
>>581931805
>>581931805
>>581931805
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>>581931791
Play classic its RIGHT THERE
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>>581931810
lol
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i can't wait to start pugs and hard reserve the loot i want because 90% of the playerbase are too pussy to start their own raids. i learned this strat in tbc classic and i never failed to fill a raid within 20 minutes
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>>581931710
I am using HD models until Blizzard shows any sign of actually making SD models for all the new content and races. I mean the bloodelf model from TBC is literally right fucking there on Anniversary and they couldn't even be fucking bothered to add it for Skyborne (who according to Soda were already in the game during their invite to Blizzard 6 months ago so it's not even a matter of "they were added last minute"), not even the half assed "skin over skeleton" shit they did for the other races.
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>>581928808
>irony poisoned crybaby
Its sarcasm, nihilism and cynicism, not irony. Learn your words, ESL's. Or americans
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>>581931776
>And there's only so much they can do with existing classing without making them more complex,
There's plenty they can do to augment them without going crazy overboard, like letting shamans tank first of all.
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>>581927353
Enhance shamans do the kiting in between swing timers lilbro. Or maybe I'm just the best shaman in the world
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>>581931128
Du nicht nehmen kerze
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>>581931261
but that's all retoilet shite
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>>581922461
It's supposed to be Classes: Rage, because it's meant for spellsword WARRIOR not mage, easy mistake.
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>>581931283
balance druid
but mainly because its shit
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>>581931787
>aoe nerfed into the ground
>raid spot will be contested by half the server

its over mage bros....



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