The Nightmare is ongoing...>>581679345>Olga buildshttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1R5hawI3OEvwLNnmKIdRe9iH9oIiBTIM12xsvVuKBXt0/edit?tab=t.0https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-KkQUFrjD_2Un3zMDmypCwZFVF5VmowswqYdLt9MOw8/edit?gid=1254256024#gid=1254256024>Galactic News Networkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjvSdi5U-Q8 >Shattered Light and Claw (Season 4 PV)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnXKxlau-v0 >Season 4 Dev notes + editshttps://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/EN/view/14048795https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/EN/view/14061509>Current Featured Banner – [Olga]Rate-Up Period: Sep 9, 2026 – Sep 30, 2026>Upcoming Banner Sereniel x Anikahttps://x.com/CZN_Official_EN/status/2100781881151119774>Sereniel and Peko buffshttps://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/14536071>Olga (New) Character PVhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQmoNPxqH0M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPfwFgG5hR8 >Useful Links and ResourcesNew players guide: https://renoa-love.org/https://rentry.org/zfskhx9hhttps://rentry.org/xtb66f3ihttps://wiki.e7bot.top/#/czn/combatanthttps://cznmetadecks.com/encounters>Why didn't my Save Data save properly?https://rentry.co/cznsavedata/>Deckbuildershttps://cznmetadecks.com/buildhttps://czn-save-cal.web.app/
NIGGERS
>>581934671Why Tiph?
Retain season soon.
/ourguy/, WG, approves the buff!
it’s over
Sereniel's E2 is strong as fuck nowPeko tooIf destroy works on enemies without tenacity she's pretty much saved for non save data content
CZN is pretty fun
>>581935287Is this the new off-season cope for the next week? Last off-season it was "the biggest content patch ever released". Remember that? Fucking trannies
>>581935451the fuck are you on about?they're updating sortie and I want to use my beloved sereniel, thats all
>>581935497You dont have to make shit up for that.
>>581935287Just show some reason to keep people playing the game. No, I don't want the gameplay be clicking the menus each day after the daily reset and skipping everything
>they're updating sortieoh, yeah? i guess that one miniscule change can be considered an "update" LMAOOO
>>581935880The issue with Sortie is not that there aren't a bunch of events from previous seasons, but that it's just doing the same shit over and over again with no real goal. Might as well just skip all of it with the extraction feature because the game incentivises not engaging with it.
>>581936039I mean thats like StS 2, you're doing the same shit over and overSome people just like the gameplay loop so I appreciate they're adding season mechanics now finally
They need to add a unit for Haru where she's in a bikini and has a cute belly.Also bikini Rei.
>>581936321>I mean thats like StS 2, you're doing the same shit over and oversts2 has actual depth that makes replaying it worth it. czn is just an shallow attempt at roguelikes, or at least thats what it endes up being.
People asking for a "chaos with save data" are fucking retardedYou'd be doing the exact same thing on every fight since your deck is optimized around that, it'd get boring 10 times faster than SortieWhat they need to do is focus on multi-team content, a hardcore version of basin or a multi team chaos that works like Arknights' Integrated Strategies (IS) - temporary squads and random buffs
>>581937265You're kidding yourself or LARPing, StS2 is a solved game with lots of shortcuts for guaranteed wins, no different than what you see here I got bored 100 hours in
>>581936598Oh, they have added bikini Rei since I stopped playing.She's looking kinda nerfed. Disappointing.
>>581937485hit a nerve, huh
QRD on Sereniel buffs and her S2?
Grim.
>>581937642Sad attempt at baiting retards with the word "buffs" to spend on her rerun banner.
>>581937310smilegook hire this man
>>581937910Yeah. Hello. I am a baited retard. So QRD?
>>581938243E2 lasers have Haste now and Afterglow is now +100% instead of +50% and also works against targets with no tenacity bar. Check the specifics in Stove if you want more details, it got posted earlier.
zatzgod won (together with olga)
>>581938460>zatzgodWhat?
HERE IS HOW I CAN SAVE THE GAME>Implement co-op
>>581937642She now works against enemies w/o tenacity bars.Other than that, a bit more damage.
>>581938610>play the exact same shit gameplay>just with someone else!
>>581938429Anything else to look forward to? Are they going to release Sereniel's fucking swimsuit outfit or what?
>>581938689You're underestimating friendslop
>>581938610For me, it is PvP.
>>581938691>Anything else to look forward to?Well this is just the preview of Sereniel's buffs specifically. She'll probably have her swimsuit outfit released during her banner, but I don't really care since it's paid and is only for lobby/dates instead of also working in Chaos.
>>581938734No, not for this gacha.
In season 5 we'll see the tenacity bar elasticity on bosses - you can't do more than 7 bars of damage on a single turn (bosses will have 8+ bars).
>>581938947I'll play with my /czn/bros and you can't do anything about it
>>581939245Cool. Will be a great week ;)
what is it about other gachas that have less gameplay and more tedious repetition/grinding than czn, but have more active players and communitieswhat is that those games are doing right, but czn is doing wrongis it because they were released first?is it because czn's story sucks?is it because the combatants aren't too unique and attractive for fanart?
>>581939665roguelite card games are niche and will always becase in point theres only a single game that was a big success in this genre (sts2)
>>581939665CZN is a 2D, menu-driven gacha that's too in-depth to be a side game.And yes, the writing sucks. I think that the character designs are great.
>>5819396651. Marketing.2. Pandering to normies.3. Pandering to the woke crowd.
Your first mistake is thinking gacha brains want gameplayI mean not like you asked that with good intentions, you just want to shitpost (and already replied to yourself)
>>581939870Or maybe I should say "requires too much investment".You can't just pick up and put down chaos, which is the game's core.
the devs only know how to nerf characters
>>581937601not him but he's correct, sts + sts2 are dogshit and literally every clone game are infinitely better than themsts2 in particular is extremely bad balance wise so the only depth is getting good RNG, as proved by pros struggling with it while they were able to get 10 wins in a row at A20 in sts1. sts also don't have anything else attractive, graphics and everything are dogshit, games like chrono ark have better gameplay, cool characters and storyand before you cope mentioning czn i dont give a shit about czn im just stating a fact
>Renoa for freeEh.>Haru and MeilinMeh.If E7 wasn't so fucking D O G S H I T, I'd consider playing again but holy fuck that game is pure fucking ass.
>>581939665Different expectationsBetter charactersArtworkSovl
>>581939665Compared to which gachas? All have their pros and cons but if cou look at the competition, most just shit on CZN.>ArknightsBetter gameplay, characters, music, story>WizardryBetter gameplay, characters, story>Limbus>better characters, music, story>any 3D slopmuch better pandering, tons of fancontent, good updates after droughts>CZNshallow characters, complete garbage story, close to none artwork after a whole year, shitty music overall, totally boring gameplay, no endgame, very bad for f2p's, expensive for a shitty 2D garbage game, etc.The fuck, why are you even asking
I once asked here "if better-CZN released would you leave CZN" and everyone said yesIf none of you are attached to the world/characters then it means CZN failed. Genshin has 500 better clones and yet Genshin players keep playing Genshin
Our canon wife is so strong in e7!
Haven't read the notes, but i hope they also give the bonus against enemies w/o tenacy bar to her sig fragments.
>>581940854>>Arknights>Better gameplay, characters, music, storyAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH OOOOOOOHHHH NONONO KEKAFVARKINGROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO0000000000000000000000
>>581941414The original arknights, not endfield zoomerkunit completely shits on all other gacha
>>581941414its true tho, cope and seethe copycuck
>>581941529>The original arknights>it completely shits on all other gachaOHMY FUCKINGGODHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA
oh we found something that makes the beluga /clown schizo very upset
I'm already halfway over on the Arknights ship. If CZN Anniv is a flop I'm gone. I can play Arknights all day just fine.
>>581941529Even if that's true, that shit is like 10000 years old, starting after day 1 is already bricking yourself, imagine playing that shit if you ain't a gacha mummy.
>>581941874>clown schizoWhat?
>>581942084Hisoka plays CZN.
>>581942123HOLY
manit's frightening knoeing that the anniversary event will determine this game's fate
>>581939665nothing has more tedious repetition/grinding than kazena, it is an innovator
Perhaps I misunderstood Smilegate, the CEO is divorced, so he self inserted into the mc of CZN and wrote a storyline where all the girls are in love with him
>>581941083genshin is fundamentally constrained by its game design, they do a great job making c0 viable EQ swapslop but thats basically all you're going to get out of mobile-first character action you can play on your phone with mobile data lag, there's little point switching to a competitor unless you want more MLCZN's issue is that the devs are not good at encouraging fun gameplay and constantly work on irrelevant things and let endgame stagnate into play the same hand every turn and at this point there are forty characters in the game so it's close to unfixable. they never resolved the fundamental issue that playing for chaos strength hurts save data deck strength and its obvious there are better ways to do this.
>>581937545??? She looks exactly like the mother of my children
>>581943127but it was meant to be shipshit before the korean melty
>>581942382What are the options for anniversary and how will they change the games perception?
>>581943127>so he self inserted into the mc of CZN and wrote a storyline where all the girls are in love with himHis self insert is Luis the guy who bitch slap(you) in the prologue so he could steal Renoa from (you)
>>581939783>case in point theres only a single game that was a big success in this genre (sts2)I think you meant Darkest Dungeon.
>>581944084>card game
>>581944084sts2 has had 80,000 concurrents since it launched. It has not left the steam top 20 concurrents since March when it released. Darkest dungeon peaked at 19k. It is actually outrageous how successful StS2 is when I think it needs so much work still.
>>581943330I hate how the gameplay pretty much doesn't matter anymore and they just introduce a bunch of QoL stuff that while nice, doesn't really add much to the core gameplay. Now it just has devolved into a menu simulator that has no endgame or things to do. They had a very strong base gameplay with chaos and farming decks, then sortie was a step in the right direction trying to make a real roguelite experience.Too bad that they are really aimless and still don't understand the core issue. Chaos devolved into speeding through it and just trying to get the correct RNG for your savedata, there is close to zero strategy involved and the harder modes don't give any reason to be ran. Now sortie also is hitting a problem where after you do 30/30 HC V, what else is there to do? With just HC V you now can auto claim all the rewards without ever playing sortie, so why would I really waste time doing a manual run when I can just click a button and get all the rewards?They still don't know what they want this game to be and it's soon been 1 year. Instead of expanding chaos, sortie or making a proper mode for your save data, none of them are fleshed out and instead new content is just copypasting the same old shit with some gimmick mechanic that ultimately doesn't matter. But sure, work on some QoL menu thing that helps people make builds or buy them from a shop, that will really save the game lmao
When it comes to nerfs, the devs can come up with a billion ingenious ideas, but when it comes to buffing a character, they just do the simple damage up slop. Let us be real, they don't want to make old characters viable, so they should stop with these shit balancing patch notes. If all they care about is selling the new character, they can stop pretending to care about balancing the game
>>581945017Are you that Tiphfag who made a whole ass greentext post with tons of things they should add and improve? It was a week ago or two. Please repost that. Genuinely opened my eyes to how fucking barebones this is.
>>581945991she's good now thoughdo you just want to make her broken?
>>581946107I am, but it's somewhere in the thread history lost to time. Just wish they made some actual content into the game instead of whatever shit they are doing right now
I am still having fun. Are you?
Am I having fun...?
i have 2 limited characters with max dupes but there's nowhere to use them
>>581946651no
>>581946651I'm having a blast!
>>581946651actually yeahprobably helps that I'm casual as fuck
>>581947082needreigirlfriend
>>581946651If it werent for /czn/ i wouldve dropped it ages ago
>>581946651Whenever I do sortie it's still fun, yeah. Still haven't done an 80/30 run yet, but 80/0 runs are pretty fun.
>>581946651I had fun getting and playing HDMI then I dropped the game and picked it up again for Hilde and had fun with her. I have not logged in since Olga released and am just waiting to see who is after Sereniel.
>>581946651Yeah, I always have a lot of fun with the Rifts but this Rift was the least fun of all Seasons. The extra shilling, even if minor, is such a turnoff. Also the deckbuilding is too easy, bring back engravings and nerf swamp.
>>581948624>bring back engravingsYou're too based for this shit general who is afraid of a bit of RNG
Can't wait for Asora, amirite /czn/? :D
oh boy, here we go again
Luche stocks?
>>581946651Yes, I love playing czn and watching anime!
>>581950121Doing a Chaos run while watching my cute girls doing cute things SoL animeYeah, no other gacha can top this
>>581949428they will betray me just like they did before
>>581950378Does these things look like they'd betray anyone?
>>581950758they sabotaged their lovely child BA in cold blood
>Sereniel buffs>it's mostly just Ego Manifestation boosts>"DID THE DEVS COOK?" [PogChamp]I'm so tired bros. At least the Afterglow buff looks okay.
>>581950873No, Buruaka will live just fine. Asora will have their own people and a certain overlap with Buruaka players as well. I really hope CZN anons can make the jump, somehow. You guys deserve better :D
>>581951443sorry bro we're busy playing NTE and DNA and all those other CZN killers from the past few months
>antiBA schizo is backWhen is CZN getting a canon nudist girl?
>>581951443>You guys deserve betteri DO deserve better...i feel disrespected as fuck. a full year of complete czn slop. smile gate and super creative have so much drama going; it goes without saying they cannot make decent content for their games. i really, really need something new. not sure if asora will be it
>>581951851>antiBAdunno, asoranon doesn't sound antiBA to me at all>>581951443
>muh BA>muh AOyou both need to fuck off
>>581952207>asoranon doesn't sound antiBA to me at allKEK nice try
Adel's panties...
>>581951959Of course you guys deserve better. Astrae Oratio shapes up to be a very sovlful experience with tons of love for millenial otaku who grew up in the 90s. And the story looks to be really interesting as well. The japanese were quite excited about what has been shown so far.
>Nexonjeet vs NCsoftjeet fighting in Smilejeet thread4weeks to go
>>581945017>>581950931I know you are the samefagging shitpopster but I'll humor you. Just. This. Once.You say a lot without really saying anything. All your posts boil down to a poor, sad attempt at poisoning the well. You're a pathetic excuse for an actual shitposter. You lack any and all nuance a true troll may employ. Anyway, there is no need for improvement. Why? Because you cannot improve an already perfect game.
>>581953297blame smilegook for their maintenance-tier garbage updates
Hey guys players are kinda sad about the E7 collab giving only 3 standard pulls, lets be even more tone deaf!
>>581953538holy based/thread
>>581953538>You're a pathetic excuse for an actual shitposterThat's because I'm not shitposting. >Why? Because you cannot improve an already perfect game.Oh, I see. Weird thing you're doing here.
>>581953695>1 tear of godeven god is crying seeing this
>>581953695CZN IS SAVED...
>>581953695who the fuck participates in these? the rewards are a shit you get for 200 stamina. man this pile of shit gacha sucks so much man
>>581953612Actually, the blame should either be on 4chan schizos for being schizo, or on 4chan jannies/mods for allowing and encouraging schizophrenic behavior, either through neglect or by design.
>>581953876Wow. You can use inspect element and take a screenshot. What? Do you want a medal now, you mentally ill loser?Go show your mother, maybe she will be proud of you just once in your pathetic existence you call life.
>>581953538>>581954214>reddit spacing
>>581953695
>>581954718holysubmit this
>>581954951>tfw this happened to me once with my 10 year old niece
>>581954951No noSUBMIT THIS
>>581954718submit this shit
Yeah....I'm moving to Muv Luv Girls Garden. It mogs all other upcoming gachas, because that game has actual sex scenes.
>>581955116Ok
>>581954951Otosan kuma nano is so lucky...
>>581954718kek
>>581955116And NTR. Dont forget the NTR (and alien rape) thats unavoidable. I've seen nips complain, saying>i spent this money on my oshi but her sex scene was with another manI kek'd
>>581954951dude she's like 10
>>581955305This would unironically save CZN.
>>581954951HOT
>>581955387out of 10
>>581955305KINOOOOO, fuck self insert shit
Since there are so many new turn based gacha games incoming, they need to introduce the sex update to czn to prevent eos.Let us fuck tiph, olga, vero and adel to save the game. It's the only way.
>>581955305NNNNOOOOOOOOOOIS THERE NO JUSTICE IN THIS WORLD
Looks like CZN will not survive Asora. Remember, you deserve better :D You are worth it!
>DeletedWhy???
>>581956465The schizo hates lolis so he reports with 50 IPs
>>581956465Nobody wants you pedophiles around.
>>581956615Retard, why would any janny remove it? It's not against the rules. Unless you deleted it yourself for your narrative.
>>581956726You'd be surprised
Should've post HuGOD instead
>>581956726It's literally loliporn you mentally ill faggot.
Guys, please stop fighting. /czn/ has enough space for Asora, Buruaka and Muv Luv :3
>>581956465czn is over...
you now remember Olga
>>581957206I just fapped to her earlier today
What is the big incentive to build a deck for every character? Could you list them for me, because I can't think of any
>>581957334I did the same, damn. Maybe we fapped to her at the same time? What if we cummed to her at the same time too? That'd be like spitroasting her.
>>581957608there is none. but it feels like you've actually progressed meaningfully when you go from 0 -> 1.
>>581957608nonethis game is fkin dead
>>581957608it's fun
Thanks for your contribution, ppmbotHere's your 0.1 rupees
>>581957608I mean why not? It's cool and fun to play all characters and kits?
>>581958135yes building a deck for each character is a fun way to play the gameA competent dev would give the player a reward for having a playable deck for each character because you want your players to do fun things.
>>581954951>deletedMODS = FAGS
>>581958985>you want your players to do fun things.Wrong, You want your players to have a reason to spend as much as possible, as often as possible.
Guys, Asora will be great. CZN might not cut it...
>>581918559I don't have her either
>>581959891>HSRclone
we have exactly one character with panties and pantyshot. One. Uno.
>>581960663Asora has many little lolipantsu slips :3
>>581960663>Rei>Haru>Tiphera>HDMI
>>581960056So you believed the thefemalepopsinger review, right?
>>581960852 Rei have them but you cant see them. Haru has none even on datamined model. HDMI is the same as Rei - they exist but you cant see them. Only Tiph
https://x.com/Na_xTae/status/2102380816093544779CUTE
>>581961205>Haru has none even on datamined modelFalse.
>>581961325We are so back!
>>581961345feel free to dig up archive and see
We are having some kino soon!
>>581961542Gladly. You've never even played this game.
>>581961716Thats from E7, you dumbass, you fucking failure
>>581961984Nta but you're retarded
>>581961984HOLY
>>581961984>Nov 2025https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/546890715/#q546909909You have literally NEVER played CZN in your entire life. Pic related is E7.
>>581961984legit bodied that freak so hard he resorted to nta hahahahahahaha
>>581961716i knew that you will bring this up as a cope. you obviously knew that we are talking about l2d combat model
>>581961984AAAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA FUCKING DESTROYED THAT TRANNY
>>581962301>backpedaling after being proven wrong 3 timesI accept your concession.
>>581962205REKT
Why does someone who has never even played CZN spend all day concern trolling in /czn/ while trying to shill AO?
>>581961984based lorefag dunked on that e7gger
Because his game is going to be dead on arrival like stella sora
>>581962737Don't try to understand the mind of a mentally ill person
>This song and dance againThe Blue Archive schizo is shitposting both sides again
>>581961984KEEEEEK DESUTOROYAAAAH
>>581963019It's not even "his game", he's some antiBA fag from /vmg/ who just wants AO to kill BA
This general is slow as fuck and then there's suddenly BA/AO shitposting so its safe to say its the same jeet.
>>581961984kek bodied that freak
>>581963217Why
>>581963384Is she a virgin?
>>581963394A schizo's motives are often unknowable. However, he also hates loli, so that probably has something to do with it.
>>581963394You are replying to the AO spammer.
>>581963345Pretty much. He posts AO then BA and after an hour posts a Snowbreak image.
4th day of not opening czn
>>581963217>>581963502>(((noticer))) starts explaining>AO and BA shitposting stopsNYOOOOTICING
>>581963491As much as your mom is.>>581963394Because it's lolifaggotry. Go diddle your kids elsewhere.
>>581963598Nope. I'm the Snowbreak poster and if you'll notice, I have not posted a Snowbreak image since he (i.e. (You)) started trying to lump my posts in with yours. If he posts any Snowbreak image after this, it will be one that he stole from /snowg/. He's a GFL fag. >>581963798He's currently running defense, trying to once again lump AO/BA/Snowbreak posting all together.
>>581963948>I'm the Snowbreak posterImagine trying to run damage control in a /czn/ thread and starting with this lmao. Just neck yourself already
>>581963948He's the one seething at snowbreak and then lumping the AO spam on you, then victimizes BA for some reason, take of that info what you will.
>>581963948How interesting that you are here as well. And AO and BA posting has stopped right as you started "exposing" whoever you claim is not you, schizo.
>>581963948lemme give you a tip bwo. ya gotta get started posting on 3 devices cuz the moment you stop shitposting with 1 type of image and start with the other, it gets too obvious, ya feelin. you like a beginner shitposter lmao
>>581964084>He's the one seething at snowbreak and then lumping the AO spam on you, then victimizes BA for some reasonHe got caught last thread. That's why. This is his post:https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/581359943/#q581445458This is him. I saw one of his posts earlier and it was sort of defending "buruaka" but that's only because he got caught. >>581964089I'm usually here. Been usually here since day 1.
>>581964353Stop trying to misdirect, you fucking schizo. >>581964084>>581964373Oops, wrong link. That's the post that triggered his AO meltdown. This is his post:https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/581359943/#q581446621
>>581963797Same!
>>581963798Really funny how that keeps happening...
>schizo gets called out>he stops running his playbook>he starts trying to blame the person who called him outIt's really that simple.
>>581964916sure, buddy. totally not you just changing up your avatarfaggotry
Bodied!
>>581965028I really don't think you're fooling anyone. At least I hope you're not, you antiBA AO spamming schizo from /vmg/. You've never even played CZN. You just proved it when you thought a CZN screenshot was from E7.
>>581964916WOW YOU RE SO HECKIN BASED!!! UPDOOOTED!! THANKS FOR THE GOLD KIND STRANGER!!!!!
>>581965279>WOW YOU RE SO HECKIN BASED!!!Thank you. I know I am. The antiBA schizo should go spam /bag/, not /czn/. Or he should stay in /gfg/ and /gflex/ where he belongs. I wonder if he's even played those games either.
>>581965216are you seriously accusing me of being some schizo? and to have never played czn? you know how easy it is to disprove you? you can still take it back or get really bodied.
Nonoset
>>581965532You're definitely a schizo. You agree with the antiBA schizo too frequently to not be a schizo.
>>581965497>t. schizo
>>581965630smooooch
>>581965630Nonosex
>>581965676oh, suddenly im not him? just someone agreeing with him? what? how weird. why walk it back? you need to seriously kill yourself.
This is all the same person samefagging btw. The same person who reported the Adelheid image 50 times.
>antiBA schizothis is some new jargon, who is this retard fighting with?
>>581966017with himself. then accuse other anons itt to be the schizo.
>>581965948You're either the antiBA schizo or his Discord jerk off buddy. Your call. >>581966017Turns out our AO spamming schizo is actually "antiBA" schizo from /vmg/. He doesn't even like AO, he just wants AO to kill BA. He hates loli. He's also from /gfg/ or /gflex/ and hates Snowbreak. He's the same schizo who used to spam "Vincent" in the earlier days of /czn/
>>581966017the same guy accusing everyone of being antiBA schizo is the AO spammer, dude has severe savior complex (or hatred against that game) thinking this general ever cared about BA, so he's spamming that other game as a pretext
>>581966209nonono, what discord buddy? you said im the schizo here>>581965216 and that i never played czn? then, when you realized you fucked up because i can just show my roster, you got cold feet. your narrative can be easily debunked. you fucked up. got too angry and couldnt think straight?
>>581966209Ok but BA is not CZN, we don't give a shit about your schizo rivalry with him
Bodied again!
The AO spammer is the mentally ill copycuck from /gflex/ btw.
>>581966538Like I said, you agree with the antiBA schizo too often to not be a schizo. You're either him or his Discord jerk off buddy. It's your call. >>581966612I don't have a "schizo rivalry" with him. I want him to stop shitting up /czn/, which is a game he's never played. If you're a real person, you can educate yourself here:https://arch.b4k.dev/vmg/thread/2193539/#q2194314https://arch.b4k.dev/vmg/thread/2193539/#q2194464>>581966747Correct. AntiBA schizo, AO spammer, Snowbreak hater, "Vincent" spammer from /gflex/, all the same guy.
Holy fuck who cares what schizoA or schizoB are doing? Just fucking report those retards and don't give them any more attention
NEW CUTE VERO EVENT
he walked it back so fast. not the brightest samefag shitposter around here.
>>5819670543!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PULLS
>links to /vmg/jesus christi hope you realize you are shitting up the thread
>>581967170Know your enemy.
>>581967054>>581967169Cuddles with Vero!
>>581967026You need to care about his story or else you are his anti
>>581967169Those save data rewards are so fucking nothing right now when you can just extract all the sortie materials
>>581967364anyone who calls out his samefaggotry is the schizo
>>581965630witnessed
>>581967054>>581967169cuddles with veronica
>>581967581Anyone who believes that I'm samefagging is a schizo, yes, that is correct. I'm not the antiBA AO spammer, I'm just the person calling him out for what he is.
>>581967821kill yourself.
Renewed my 30 day pass one last time, I'll give them a chance to redeem themselves on the anniversary and otherwise it's off to do something else
>>581968127You first. It'd fix a lot of issues in the world. Such as your posts.
>Giving money to SGWhy?
I am not poor
>>581968726why dont you tell me how im the schizo and never played czn? especially the last part? fucking retard.
>>581966876You should go back to /vmg/ instead
Chibi avatarfag with Twitter filenames is getting uppity.
>>58196933082. That's how I know. It's quite funny, hilarious even how much you try and DEFLECT from your samefaggotry. Like, shit, nigga. What is actually wrong with you?
what is this retard even saying? unmedicated behavior.
>>581970592Maybe take yours if you can't comprehend first grader tier sentences. Stupid fuck.
I love this game and hope they make it much better
I just bit my lip I need olga to make out of with me tongue and all to heal it back...
CZN fate is sealed the moment devs listened to the retards that keep asking for epiphany reroll systemhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Teeqx5tTa5s
>>581971087This. Gotta bring back the old save system without selective copies too so people bring veronica. Kids these days have no backbone.
AO BA schizo got obliterated by resident Tiphfag. What a day!
>>581934929>blondeShes racist and we love that for her
oh no don't look
Ughhh bro?
he broke like six or seven rules
>>581970771*Kisses Adel*
>>581972035>Reddit>DSP reddit>hlgg>Watching some gay streamer play WoWJamhax-sama... Not like this
>>581972035>deleted
>>581972416>>581972476
>>581972035>800 streams up simultaneouslyIf someone cared enough, they could find your Google account from this.
>>581972685It's chatterino, you can track streams without following them and get notifications if they go live.You can google my alias and find my youtube and reddit, who cares?
>>581972909
>the realization you've been in a thread filled with r*dditors larping as 4channers for a whole yearngl i'm getting all hot and bothered
If you don't have 100% in season 2, your other 100% means nothing, because only true gamers and pro players have the real 100%. You failed if you did not reach the true 100%
>>581974353>tfw 98% in season 1
>>581974353>>581974473I literally couldn't do the spore quest in S2 because I did not have Orlea
>>581974473fake gamer
>>581967026It's the schizo doing that. Same playbook he had back in /gflex/ where he would "expose" himself occasionally when people stopped biting his bait. I'd recognize this niggerish "totally not me" writing style anywhere.
How did /czn/ end up with more schizos than most gacha generals?
I wear my sub100% season 2 banner as a badge of honor.
>>581975226>moreIt's one dude on half of them.
>>581975226Clownschizo is still the best.
>>581974925your berly?
https://www.reddit.com/r/ChaosZeroNightmare/comments/1wnh0gy/hilde_fan_art_and_yuki/No no no, our best CZN artist is a furry. It's over, guys
>>581975226/czn/ is just slow enough for the schizo(s) to run wild and while grabbing anons' attention. This is why they don't do this shit in dead generals or high ppm threads.
>>581976717stop getting baited?
>>581975226>more schizosIt's one guy.
>>581976631sexo
>>581976717kill yourself
>>581977024who is it?
>>581977062I would be down for a female furry. I am a straight man, after all
>>581977358some BA fag obsessed with his rival or something
>>581977358A Snowjeet who gets really mad if you badmouth his Snowjeet gacha.
>>581977062I mean..
>antiBA /vmg/eet schizo started samefagging againHe really doesn't like that we caught on to him.
>we
>>581979245That's you
>>581976631I can't see this shit
>>581979756This and >>581977062
>>581977062posting this on deviantart would ruin at least like a hundred children's tastes on fictional women, guaranteed
>>581979802myammers..
Multiplayer would be so nice
Sereniel is still shit I presume?
>>581983828she is stronger where she was already strongshe deals a bit more damage in tenacity lacking contentshe is still completely unplayable against aggressive anti-card spam mechanics
>>581983828Slight damage buff and that's it. She's still going to suffer against enemies with no tenacity bars.
>>581983828Probably yeah. Afterglow buff looks like the best buff. The rest is just numbers shit, and then Ego Manifestation buffs, which wont matter at all to most people. Even the e2 buff, which was the good one, looks like trash; it's just a couple cards one time at the beginning of the fight.
>>581984586>slightlyI don't think you guys know what you're talking about, she's looking significantly strongerWe'll see though
>>581984975I assume the E2 buff is for Sortie and non-save data content in general because she was complete ass in themNow you can start the fight with big hits and Haste
>>581985210The damage buff is nice and all, but she still has no way to loop her lasers against no tenacity enemies, you know, her core mechanic. It's not like she can one shot enemies like Tenebria; she needs to spam her cards.
>>581955305WTF, registering now
>>581985558you are talking to a literal retard.
>>581985558she always had 2 possible builds, lasers going back to her hand or destroyif destroy is hitting twice on no-tenacity enemies thats a pretty big damage ramp up with her purple card, hilde buffing Instinct damage and a specific adel build to retrieve from graveyard
>>581984975>>581984586>>581984020retard
>>581986147this is why i hate retards. wait a week and look how you will eat your own feces once again
>>581986147lollmao
why is there a one to one overlap between the anons saying the buffs are bad to the absolute worst posters in the general?
>>581986328Would you like to tell me which part you disagree with?
>>581941879>>581941414>>581940854nice "game"
Prediction for this week's shill unit in Sortie?I think of the pre-s4 units that aren't limited, it's Mei Lin, Orlea, and mayne Yuki that havent had their cocks sucked
>>581941414This posts expresses my opinions
>>581991273filtered
>>581991273WE love overly verbose and arbitrary dialogue to simple yes or no questions
>>581991643>arkcuck defending hid endless LGBT shipping wordslopKEKAFUCKING ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>581991273Yum yum yummyROO!!!! I love 12 hours of pointless shitty dialogue!
>>581945017Tiphschizo I think you might have been one of the few (based) people that argued Auto-Chaos was a mistake.Whenever your solution to gameplay is "skip the gameplay" you're just fucking yourself.Chaos deck farming was annoying as fuck in S1, BUT getting a good deck did actually feel amazing. I remember being extremely excited to get my 4 Homing Laser +1 AP Sereniel.Like Yugioh is in a rough spot metawise right now and it's like you think to fix it by just making cards extremely cheap. The gameplay itself is the issue...
>>581991770just say you can't read
>>581992009no that was me
>>581991273guaranteed arknights shiteates will defend thisthey all have stockholm syndrome kek and dropped endfield at launch because there wasn't enough gay shopping and wordslop and too much ML
>>581985558>>581986147It's because T*nacity is a shit mechanic and she's basically the only unit that actually cares about it. Despite that, they specifically decided to rape her and only her by introducing enemies and mechanics that don't involve Tenacity.Tenacity should have been like a built in Vulnerable state where they take extra damage or receive a burst of damage when broken. The irony is that Sereniel literally gets cucked by the Ravage state, so much so you ideally want Selena to un-ravage them
>>581992071Oh you rock
>>581992008I (she/they) also play Fate Grand/Order as well
>only 1 unit cares about Tenacity>only 1 unit cares about Agony (shut up)>only 1 unit cares about Celestial>only 1 unit cares about Counters>etc
>>581991273yummy word salad
No, you won't.
>>581992610Incorrect.
>>581992009The Yugioh comparison is kinda spot on because I feel this game kinda fucked itself with the rampant powercreep. Can't have a decent deckbuilder when you can literally spam every card in your deck at every turn with zero variancy. At that point it's an autobattler statcheck with extra steps.Roguelite modes like sortie seem like a good solution to the problem but the fact they added auto on them too makes me think they are leaning on the bugman salarymen target that just wants to collect daily rewards and see number go up.
>>581992009what’s stopping you from not using those features and enjoying the same farming you did before?
>>581994223This is the most retarded argument ever
>>581994518why didn’t you answer properly?
>>581992009I think it's a mistake if they want to take the game into a direction where it's aimed for the ultra casuals who don't want to play a game. That market is already so saturated and what CZN offers is not very good compared to the competition in that regard and they won't suddenly recapture a playerbase that has ignored it until now. They had something pretty special early on with being the gameplay focused gacha. Even if it was rough around the edges, the core gameplay was pretty tight initially and it was fun and engaging. Now though the gameplay has pretty much stagnated by staying still, powercreeping and removing all incentive to engage with the gameplay portion. They made getting perfect decks too easy and the gameplay kind falls apart at that level because you cycle your entire deck so efficiently. They also can't balance for shit, just look at the equipment's in chaos where 99% is shit.What they should have done was to make some sort of progression for building characters where you actually improve bit by bit instead of needing to farm the same deck every season. They had the right idea with the sortie levels 61-62, but then fumbled the execution and left it half baked. It's kinda the story of the game where they have an idea, but then never take it anywhere other than the most shallow shit ever and move on to a new idea. I bet there will be a new mode soon that gets left to rot after a season.Quality of life does not mean you should remove all gameplay
Whooa..... 3 pulls....
>>581994223>sortie skip available>do it with Magna for funI love being a casual.
>>581994873Is this Tiph poster a tsun- or kuu-dere?
>>581994965H-Happy anniversary....
>>581995030retard-dere
>>581995019>do a magna run>NO FUCKING MAGNA ATTACK CARDS DROP OR ARE LOCKED BEHIND THE REWARD RESTRICTIONI'm so pissed
Wym sexreniel gets a swimsuit but I can't see her ass in full display during battle. Really? Niggers, nigger devs, nigger company.
>>581992610>AgonyYeah and Agony sucks and everyone knows>CelestialYou couldn't pick a worse comparison. Celestial interacts with the core game in multiple ways. Not only that but since it only triggers on high cost cards, it encourages alternate deck building from the standard 0 cost +1AP slop.>CountersAt least 2 units care about counters and they're also insanely splashable onto any other combatant.
>>581995227They're actually Korean last time I checked.
>>581994223The lack of a real response tells you everything you need to know.
>>581994223I'm going to bite and answer how it is from my perspective:I like to optimise how I play games and try to do things in a smart way. I like to challenge myself and I want to be rewarded for doing things in the game if it's a live service game because it makes me feel like I'm progressing in the game.When you put a button in front of me that makes me win at the thing I'm doing, I'm incentivised to use it. I could do a sortie run that takes 40 minutes or I could press the button that completes the run instantly. Now if there was any real disadvantage to doing it this way, it would be a different thing. But with extraction you:>Get a very small bit less materials that everyone now has an excess of because of extraction being so efficient>I lose leveling my characters 60-62. But these level ups don't do jackshit currently>I don't get to do the achievements for 5 crystals each, and I don't get the achis anyway if I've already done themWhy wouldn't I just click the instant win button? I've done like 100 sortie runs, so it's not like there's much new stuff left in it for me. The purpose of sortie is to get save data mats and I get the mats from pressing the extract button. I have now so fucking many black mass that I can buy anything from the shop with it in excess. Add this shit to simulations rather than the main gameplay mode. Too bad that you can't remove it anymore once you added it, because people will complain if you do so you are just fucked.
>>581995990Fucking gooks, gook devs, gook companyThere you go.
>>581995851Koreans are like the niggers of asiaSo are ChineseAnd so are JapaneseIn fact they're all quite niggerish
Fucking lazy gooks
epic SHIT
>>581996415now make it movenow change all skills so it shows the swimsuit
>581996514why is unc talking about his dead game lmoa
>>581992009Grinding against the RNG was already solved by adding the random divine event in Interior chaos + no penalty escape from season chaos + limiting the cards of the copy event to the choosen combatant. This is so efficient that I still mostly farm my decks using this method.But chaos skip is mostly about collecting items for the season store, not about building your deck.
>>581996415How hard is it to take the current model that has the clothes layered anyway, and add the swimsuits to them? Probably one day max for more profit than having that person do anything else
>>581995167>attack Magna>counter attack sortie buffs
>>581994873I think more macro progression would be cool (maybe something like character specific achievements unlock copies of cards you can freely build a deck with).But the Season model isn't mid because of having to refarm. It's bad because there's no reason to farm again other than an arbitrary date.As trannified as PoE is, they absolutely have done the f2p season model the best. New seasons should be the most exciting thing in the game. Instead they care more about the patch notes than they do experiencing the content within the patch.I've said it before they need to split the core game from the seasonal game so they can do crazy shit inside of a season without raping balance. If they then expand on some new end game modes like Tower designed with more longevity, they can have 3 sets of end game content that all blend a little together: roguelite (sortie); short term progression (season); long term progression (core).Season content should be giving us all kinds of Dream World broken shit. Or at least being WILLING to risk it. They can add entire new systems that may or may not make it to the core game. They could have a talent tree season and then scrap it if it failed to be fun. I mentioned once a monster/pet season where you get a pet companion that you can "train" with materials found in seasonal chaos.Or even keep shit simple but make it crazy. A season where you can level past 60 (62) using seasonal materials.... except there's no level cap or it's absurdly high. This would be great for community shitposting like someone gets to post their level 366 Maribel. People get to minmax but they also get to tease each other for picking the Reddit characters to focus on.There's SOOOO many things they could do. Give me the game nigga. They have a phenominal core right now. GIVE ME THE GAME NEGROS
>>581996603It shouldn't be hard at all for a team like Super Creative.
>>581996215Anon... as a Koreanese, the Indians are the Africans of Asia
>>581996757Jamhax post. I can tell from the reddit spacing.
>>581996629You can't be waiting every turn to get attacked, she gets one counter stack every turn anyways which is good enough while neutral cards do the hard work of carrying the run
>>581996903NTA, but I have a more colorful opinion on this matter. Unfortunately, I can't say because it's against 4chan's rules now.
>>581996757Legit remaking each combatant to have a deeper card pool, talent trees, gem slots etc could fix this. Add real progression to combatants that you now have to build meticulously to ever hope maxing them out. Make the combatants something that you have to build by playing the game where each run can progress them a bit forwards. Add cool stuff to talent trees while also having the paypiggy ego manifests.And like you said, make seasonal content special, not the same cookie cutter deck with an extra card in it. There's so much easy shit they could add to make the game better, but I'm pretty sure they won't do anything except continue doing the same shit until EoS
>>581995167I also noticed the restriction is always over the signature cards. You need to roll two or more signatures to get one, usually only happens on elites.
>>581996903Streetshitters aren't human in the first place, even third worlders who eat dumpster meat got that right
>>581996757is this jamhax?
Why can't unique cards get an epiphany? I just don't get what is the point in restricting it other than SG being lazy
Damn, it sure is crazy how the game will never ever make improvements and all the “improvements” since launch are actually a bad thing. We also can’t count on the koreans to complain to make things better since they would never do such a thing.
>>581996629DMG-based shield/heal don't get turn nerfed in level 80. I think that is the card he wants.
>>581998052The issue is not that most of the improvements are bad, it's that they are more focused on decorating a boat that has a massive hole in it than fixing the massive hole because it's easier to put up decorations than fixing it.
>>581994223I know this is bad faith but it's always such a retarded response.No one's saying that a bus route ruins the joys of driving to work.I'm saying that adding bus routes don't count as fixing the cracks in the asphalt.
>>581996415that's a sad ass
>>581997947I have 0 idea what that means
>>581998397How is it bad faith when that guy was saying he’s sure the game will never try making improvements until EoS?
>>581997840Ok fair enough I accept my negrohokd if it means we get to hit the j**ts with some strays
>>581998427She's asian anon. Or white. Neither bode well
>>581998427it's ai or fanart bwo
>>581998015Back near launch, someone said that during the beta the purple cards could get epiphanies. Then I remember near that one roadmap stream (i think), they were talking about maybe changing around the epiphanies each season. I thought they were going to bring purple card epiphanies back, but they ended up going with seasonal gimmicks instead.
>>581998831Give season epiphanies
people dont call them epipis anymore....
>>581999191Good posters do.
>>581999191Arkfags moved to Endfield
The biggest problem the game has is that every character is such a parasitic mess of mechanics that they don't actually mingle with each other much.The joy of card games is finding this weird and bizarre interaction between common A doing 10 damage when you shart while doing a pole vault and common B allowing you to turn items into pole vault sharts so you can load up an entire deck of items and shart on your opponents to victory; it is not just "I play my entire deck consistently every turn (the enemy doesn't die)"CZN needs to allow us to play the game differently. There should be aggro decks, there should be combo decks, there should be control and even midrange. Instead, every deck is just some kind of spell slinger that plays exactly the same.What's most frustrating is that the epiphany system should allow for such incredible synergistic cores to be born. If smilegook doesn't want to increase the amount of cards per character, they could at least introduce several new possible common epiphanies witth each character - Just imagine, having HDMI on a team with Diana or Renoa could give them eiphanies that make Effulgent Blades instead of bullets, or adding Linked to Bullets, or so much more.We NEED synergies that go beyond "these characters like extra attacks lol"It doesn't help that SG is terrified of looping so they are constantly gimping mechanics and putting actual literal hard limits on them instead of just letting bullshit flow.
Imagine if olga could have a bunnysuit
>>581999875Because that means actually making a game instead of a skinner box DLC factory
>>581999875>The biggest problem the game has is that every character is such a parasitic mess of mechanics that they don't actually mingle with each other much.That's not a problem, that's a feature. Remember back when we had the only actually synergistic team that the game has ever had, that actually made you feel like you were playing a card game instead of just 3 niggas in a row with a card game UI? They STILL don't even let you stack red cards with Mei Lin. I told you guys way back at the beginning that the TCM nerf is a red flag, not because they're nerfing the best thing in the game, but because they're nerfing the only actual card interaction in the entire game.
>>582000812>only actually synergistic team that the game has ever hadI’m going to need you to define this more clearly for me.
>>581999875the devs only know how to nerf
>>582001259mika healstressa creates cards from healscassius creates cards from 0-costsit's genuinely fun and nerfing it was the worst mistake those gooks ever made since S2 literally hard-countered 0-cost spamming
>>582000812>the only actually synergistic team that the game has ever hadYuki, Rei and Nia were already in the game with a lot of synergy, they just weren't strong enough to hit like a truck.
>>582001924I know how it works. I just don’t understand your definition of synergy that doesn’t apply to any other team in the game. So I’d appreciate that definition.
>>582001259>Mika heals>this generates 3 Tressa daggers>play 3 Tressa daggers>this fulfills Cassius quest and he generates a card>the card he generates increases in damage based on number of attack cards used>Tressa's daggers (and Cassius quest card) are both attacksone Mika heal starts a chain reaction that the entire team snowballs off of, repeatedly
>>582002139see >>582002043
>>581999875Tbh I only partly agree. There's some egregious offenders (AGONY LMAO) but Hilde, Fei, Tenebria, Adel, Heidi, and Diana all have a ton of synergies with tons of assorted characters they clearly weren't designed around. Consider that Nine's Hew with flash synergizes with Luke!This isn't nearly as big of an issue because it's fixable. "Trigger allied Fracture" is stipid because only 3 units can even apply it. This problem goes down dramatically if they just introduce a common epipi that adds Fracture. No it won't be amazing but it solves the lack of any synergistic effects.And idk how well this even holds up. S3 rift had Narja using Sylvia as a top tier strategy lmao.
>>582002043an infinite, or a near-infinite in TCM's casereally they should just let us break the game over our knees, it's not like a lot of people care about great rift now that it's blatantly shilling the banner units
>>582002353I meant to reply to >>582000812 also
>>582001259well you see>heal make dagger>dagger make questWaow! No further questions please.
>>582000812The insane draw and AP generation/card discounts already removes 90% of the core mechanics in a card game. Not only it kills a bunch of cool archetypes but completely removes any variancy. Basically removing the card game part and turning it into a bogstandard turn based RPG.Stress is also a good example of a half baked mechanic that could've been an interesting resource. They basically took the thing from DD and changed it enough to make it shit.
>>582002043This >>582002139 guys definition of synergy only includes things that so comically break the game that negroes are farming fo CHAINS to boost their scores. This is before you could find them in the shop mind you, you had to get one of like 3 Elites to drop a Legendary item purely by chance and also farm the deck without any deck editing.
To be quite honest, I don’t find infinites to be fun, even in StS. Sure, the first time I get a novel setup with one, it’s fun, but that quickly falls off.
>>582002353THAT is the kind of synergistic stuff I want. Infinites are cool a few times but if you can solve everything with an infinite loop, that too gets boring (ie, playing Watcher in STS1 and killing everything with the loop wrath stuff).The Narja deck last season was legitimately great for the game and I weep a little cause I didn't have Narja then and the deck is kind of useless now... We need more shit like that and I think buffing commons or adding more common epiphanies could solve it.
>blud got cornered into giving the most dogshit definition of synergy to make his previous statement look slightly less retarded
>>582003619These are my posts >>582000812 >>582002139All the other posts are someone else. You guys got pretty heated so I'm just letting you all fight it out.
>>582002913>>582003419>>582003619The point is for the option to be there in the first place so scrubs can play around with it because mechanics that fuck over infinites exist anyways (like Elasticity for multihits)
>blud is too pussy to elaborate on his own statement because he knows it’s fucking retarded
Personally I think removing the "used" pile would make Veronica and Nia a lot better since they can draw out the entire d*ck and potentially draw their own cards through divines
Stop being a vagueposting faggot and talk like a proper adult for once.
>>582004170>blud is too pussy to actually reply to the posts he's replying toThere's no need to elaborate further. I gave my opinion, I was asked to elaborate, so I elaborated. I was asked to elaborate again, but I already did that. There's no use elaborating on my elaboration for someone who is just looking for things to shitpost about. You can't even reply to me correctly.
>>582004819kek bodied that vagueposter
>dodged the question againnobody’s falling for it lil’ bro
>>582004469They will create a new mode where you will be able to do that! Oh wait...
>>582004819>You can’t even reply to me correctlyOh, like how you won’t respond to this anon? >>582002253
>>582004794>>582004987Synergy in my noob opinion is basically looping power. TCM is the prime example since it can do everything but truth be told the units that are supposed to work well together are missing that special sauce since the "used" pile exists which limits how many times you can play certain cards. If it didn't exist, stuff like Hilde/Arabella/Olga would work out the box since there's NOTHING holding it back from drawing their own cards over and over again in one turn if you use -1 cost divines. Hilde herself could be a self-sustaining TCM engine with two empty d*cks since arrows are insanely efficient (draw, plays itself, exhausts itself).
>>582005075chaos assault rip
Its gonna be Orlea abd its gonna suck
It's time to shine!
LETS FUCKING GOPINKNIGGAS
>theres no synergytell me you dont play sortie without telling mepost ur 30/30 hc pilgrims path
>>582008667>>582008725Mei Lin LOVE
>>582004469Removing used pile will result in infinite deck looping.
>lack of infinite loops being the main issue of the gameRidiculously dumb take.
>>582009167>>582009336It's inevitable because Repose exists, the only way to not have Repose in a theoretical team is if Repose 2.0 exists
>to StrikeLmao fuck tenebria i guess
dungeon crawling mode like darkest dungeon or platforming like valkyrie profile?
>>582010738Vampire Survivor mode.
>>582010738>dungeon crawling modethat is just normal chaos>platforming this will make me drop the game
>>582011089survive this
>>582010738Tower Defense mode
>>582010738Extraction shooter mode
>>582010738Extraction semen mode
>>582011585dungeon crawlers have better routing. chaos is too linear. darkest dungeon in particular has better stress mechanicsplatforming only to get to the battle. admittedly pointless, but I like the chibis and I'm not sure how else they should utilize them>>582011651defend this
God I forgot how miserable Mei Lin is in Sortie
>>582011971>>582012068>>582013272extract this
>>582013272JUST PULL IT OFF, THE WOMBOCOMBO!
>>582005601That's not what synergy is, that's just looping nigga, and a thing CZN already has in spades to the point that it is the intended way to play every deck and the entire reason the used pile exists to begin with.Synergy is when the sum of the parts is significantly greater than the parts on their own.The game does still have some synergies here and there (the Narja deck was a good example), but most of it is so extremely linear that it doesn't feel like synergy but rather the "intended way to play."
>>582014129you’re supposed to give a made-up definition of synergy bwo
>>582012068Olga already does this for me
>>582014126Its like Olga (roll 4 specific cards with specific epeepees) but shes even worse
>>582008667>>582008725Sortie really needs to have two buffed units being cycled, Mei Lin is awful without Tenebria and this buff doesn't even work for rhythm cards.
is sereniel + selena considered a synergy?
>what synergy meanyall clearly never worked corporate
>>582014129Narja/Haru and Rei/Mei Lin is definitely synergistic by your definition but they don't really scale as stupidly high as pre-nerf TCM. Though you are correct in that they do seem created as "the intended way to be played". The only real solution is to PRAY that they revisit old concepts, a Yuki/Chizuru unbricker would be so nice to have.
>>582014873Unironically her best use case is probably as an absurdly ghetto Cassius morale bot with that 1 opener upgrade
>>582014930Yes since you can restore the break bar to spawn more lasers and do extra attack after every attack which Sereniel does a lot.
>>582014930No.
>>582014930no. there are literally NO synergies besides TCM.
>>582014930Yes because there's not only break bar recharge but also extra attack spam from lasers
>>582011089Funny, I was just playing Hell Maiden.
>>582010738Just fuse Chaos with Sortie and try again. Anything other than Chaos 2.0, but optional. Dungeon crawling out of those two.>>582015858>Hell Maiden is an action Horde Survival Deck-Building gameOkay, now I'm interested.
The truth is, the moment they started nerfing things was the moment they showed us they were not willing to allow anything that escapes their scope of shilling. All the nerfs and caps this game had were because of shilling, not for balance, not for a healthy game, but simply shilling. This was the end of everything, but it is okay, because for anni they are going to give us a selector and big boobs, and we will forgive everything
>1 month without contentI'm so tempted to try Smilegate new game right now.
>>582017581Big boobs are why we're flopping, can't trust gooners to spend money or stay, they're like flies to shit buzzing from one pile to the next.
>>582017928even if you wanted to, theres not even a release date
>game dev rapes me>hmmm today i will play game dev's game
>>582018265All gacha players are raped, some more than others
>>582017957See, you can't have a good story with only a pussy cast. You need diversity
wtf i don’t remember Mei Lin being this ass
miresi wone7 wonmorimens wonastrae oratio wonsts2 wontrickal won1999 reverse wonczn lost
...on planet retard
>>582019183>miresi won>e7 won>morimens won>astrae oratio won>trickal won>1999 reverse wonthe kusoge contest? yeah we know
>>582017957>Big boobs are why we're floppingOlga banner making less than Arabella
Olga is the most successful banner of all time.
>>582017928did CZN get something like THIS before release?
>for one turn
>>582018320Heh, first time getting fucked in the ass?
>>582019683noit's not Smilegate project, I bet CZN is leftover assets from Chrono Ark.
>>582019816nothing can go infinite
>>582020032>CZN looks infinitely better than Chrono Ark>retard thinks CZN is leftover CA assets
>>582018785It's really sad isn't it the CZN that we know back then doesn't exist anymore, in less than a year they already fucked it up.
>>582019816Mei Lin is Kayron's bitch.
did we lose
>>582021768Yes, us AO and Miresi bros lost hard.
>>582021768CZN lost... the losing contest!
>>582022195>Yes, us AO and Miresi bros lost hard.How so?
>>582022519what theis this real
>>582022702just compare the marketing to those games to cznbetter cosplayersbetter exhibitionsbetter displaysbetter fanbasebetter artworkbetter communicationbetter social mediawtf does czn havepaid sereniel swimsuit skin that we can't even use
>>582022706
>>582023549I do think CZN has superb communication, or at least it had early on despite the drama
>>582023549>paid sereniel swimsuit skin that we can't even useIs this the first gacha ever where you can't even use the skins you buy in combat? Seems insane to me that they did that.
AO will be Stella Sora 2.0
>>582025265and people will somewhere somehow someway somewhy make czn responsible for killing the game like stella sora and star savior
confess
>>581957047Literally? Seems more figuratively upon closer inspection.
>>582025830
>>582025390When the narrative is >LOL LMAOOOOO DEAD ON ARRIVAL SS WON SAAR SAVIOR WONand that's spammed all over /czn/, then yeah, if they lose that means we killed them.
>>582002598czn became yugioh in less than a year. it’s ridiculous
>>582025830>>582025941I gooned to Orlea pits...
I don’t like divines
>>582026065I played Day 1 YGO and I remember playing this dude tapped and that was pretty good. Now don't you combo your whole deck and if your opponent doesn't have a counter spell you just win?
>>582025390what tf happened to those games, anyway?
>>582019183/e7g/ died because of this post
>>582000812>>582002598All problems that would be gone if Great Rift doesnt exist btw
Miresi is already killing us
curse you miresi...
This means that if Miresi flops, we killed it. And if AO flops, we killed that too.
We can't kill anything if we are already dead.
>>582025943If things go on like this, stella sora will easily outlive us
>>582027106Good job!
>>582027240>stella sora outlives cznthey got the last laugh...
>>582027240>Go on like thisStill out earning them with non stop flopping and slopping banners?
>>582028114how was Olga a slopping bannerthe only slop banner so far were Arab and Fei
~1 week until we find out if Olga out earned Arab
>>582027240Genuinely don't see how unless they do a hard reset/stumble onto a bunny asuna situation
>>582028284We had slop every banner since after Narja
>>582025830Why Arabella keep getting real art? Meanwhile Olga who is more popular than her only have ai slop.
>>582028964Why you keep writing brown post?
>>582029167because we own this place, pigskin you're the minority in here.
>>582029167it's the truth
>>582029554wtf footballs post on /czn/?
This guy's AI thought Tiphera was from Blue Archive
>>582030721Wish I was from BA, even if I was one of those little dog or robot shopkeepers I wouldn't mind.
I wish I looked like Tipheraor Reior Berylor Selenaor Nineor Amir
I wish I could kill people over the internet with my thoughts
/e7g/ is gone from /vg/
>>582032859Renoa killed E7
>>582032859are you seriousit's fkin over
>>582032859end of an era
>>582032974whyWhyWHY was this not in the game
>>582032859a grim reminder of what a single schizo can do on a low population general
>>582032859Feels bad, e7 was my first gacha. I'll never forget the good times with my Soft bros.
>>582033131Bro, even a single schizo on a mid population general can kill it. There was some schizo who set up a bot to spam scat or bestiality in the GW2 thread for like 2 years.
I'm concerned about the upcoming fake speculative mihomotrannycord-based revenue.We may not make it, bros.
retards>>582032961
>>582033131>>582033269>get BTFO once by a poster in a video game general>spam the general with schzio posts and shitposts for years until it dies through sheer angerfuckin' wild
>>582033380>made 10 minutes ago >>582033413Their breads are constantly dying, it seems.
>>582033380i know next to nothing about our e7g bros but i choose to love them unconditionally as our sister general. i am glad they aren't dead.
>>582032974Our canon wife.. who will you bring back from your e7 trip?
>>582035105She's not coming back, she found a better home.
>>582035635Nyo...
>>582035635No... please...
>>582035635No...*Fucks Tiph while dabbing away tears*It can't be*Fucks Olga while chocking her out*
>>582026314>Now don't you combo your whole deck and if your opponent doesn't have a counter spell you just win?Yep, that's YGO nowadays. You either play or watch your opponent play solitaire for 10 minutes. They summon their whole deck with omni negates and counter counters and testicular torsion hand traps (given you dont block their spree with your own hand traps like Maxx C or Nibiru etc) and if you can't answer their board, they win. Can answer? You win. Such a great fucking game, truly thrilling. I can't imagine why it's bleeding players.
Look, if you had one shot or one opportunityTo suck on Diana's boobs for one moment,Would you capture it or just let it slip?
>>582035635
>>582037049delete this please...
>>582037049the nightmare continues...
>>582037049She also OP in that game.
>>582037049The last gift from our CO-CEOs before they abandon us
>>582037049no... please delete this...
>>582037049Joke aside Ras is a good guyThe reason why the game is called E7 is because this is the 7th world, Ras failed to save the world 6 times but in the entire timeline he only love one girl.
>>582036791
>>582037049I just destroyed my renoa acrylic standfucking bitch
>>582017928That game looks like shit even in the promotional material. There's just this cheap 3D feel to it
>>582017928absolute sovl>>582037049BIIING BIIIING WAAAHOOOOOOOOOOOOBBY DOOOOBBY DOOOOOOOO
>>582040189
speaking of Renoa. How is she, gameplay-wise? I've never really seen anyone mention her in that context.>>582040189that's just Hyulla's horrendous artstyle, anon.
x2 gamespeed when?
>>582025830I unironically like Arabella.
>>582025830I liked the Arabella poster that made her look really pathetic and begging
https://x.com/Jjomulhaelots of cute new reaction images
i catch'd up with ze threat and i gotta saywe're fucked. not really czn (actually yes)but us, the playersthey would have to do a czn rebootto fix all the issuesanons,mostly one tipheranonfagschizo,brilliantly,as brilliant asas the brilliantsso succinctly have had and be has'd pin-pointed out,and thatwill take the dumbass'd devs('d)if they go with this pace,1 month for 1 sortie feature,3 years to fix the game. like what the fuck is this shit? three years? will they ever fix the game? or is this the way it's supposed to be? because they didalltheymotherfuckingcouldtofuckthisshitupandturnit into some shillshit with one-dimensional decks and one way to play. name ten more restrictive deckbuilders than czn. czn is not a deckbuilder anymore either. itsa deckniggerfor other niggers like (you)
>>582041134Retard spacing
>>582041041Frog Yuki is still his magnum opus
>>582025830I asked my girlfriend to cosplay Arabella for me. She said no.I told her I was going on a business trip over the weekend but I actually went to a hotel with my step sister who cosplayed Arabella for me. We had wild, ravenous sex multiple times but I didn't use a condom.
>>582041304i am your girlfriend
>>582041304wtf man...
>they promoted the Judas cosplayer to director
>>582041304hot
https://youtu.be/Lrr0D6uGkcc
>>582042075nyus ling?
>>582042126OUR SALVATION IS HERE
>>582042126WE ARE SO BACK
>>582042075HE GAVE US FREE 10 PULLS LIMITEEEEDCZNNEWPDGIFT1STTHE GAME IS FIXEED THE FIXED EVERYTHIIIINGAUUUUWGHWHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA I LOOOOOOST
>>582042126Is this the guy wearing glasses?
kazena is saved
30 FREE PULLSCZN IS SAVED*does the Joker dance*
>>582042276It's actually 30
>>582042126LUCHEGENEROUS
SMILE GENEROUSGENEROUS
>>582042126>We plan on making save data farming even easier>Longer seasons>Giving 10 free pulls after taking away 15 for each patch of the seasonDunno man, this ain't it. Hopefully the anniversary announcement has something good in store
>>582042126Sorry to be the party pooper, TLDR:>save data even easier (LOL)>no nerfs (he clearly talks about elasticity but does not say it's gone lol)>sortie remote extraction is good (lol)>longer seasons with supposedly more combatants being viable in the meta (shilling is at ATH?? lol)>receiving save data outside of the game (LOL??? real money save data????)>anni showcase at start of october (the first good thing he says)>roadmap in december>30 pulls, 10 every week over 3 weeksDid I forget anything?
>>582042635cuddles with veronica
>>582042772You forgot to say that you're lying.
>>582042772the more combatant part was him talking about a new game mode that is intended to have a high amount of viable combatants and playstyles.the longer seasons was moreso him just saying seasons are gonna be way crazier moving forward with lots more mechanics.
So that's where the limited pulls were this whole season, director kun was hoarding them.
>>582042772he talked about adel's panties
I'm dooming, but when they talk about longer seasons, I can't help but imagine these two scenarios (or a combination)>Seasons last now for 4 banners with offseason gone>Season banners now last for 4 weeks instead of 3I was done with this season during the start of the 2nd banner, so I don't really like longer seasons if we continue making them like this. The offseason can be removed, I don't know why the fuck it even exists other than them being lazy fucks
>>582042945>Give people 40 less pulls during the season>Give 30 pulls as a gift from the directorUh-huh... I'm noticing
>>582042772>roadmap in decemberAnyone have the previous roadmap? how many promises they broke from previous roadmap?
>>582042126Nothingburger
>>582042126>we will not nerf any combatants>oh, unless we need tohm, okay. so you keep nerfing them.>we will make it even easier for you to get savedataokay. completely missed the point i guess.>too one-sided and one-dimensional decks and combatantsOHHHH? LOOKS LIKE THE DOOMERS IN HERE WERE RIGHT? WHY IS THE NEW DIRECTOR MENTIONING THE EXACT SAME THINGS DOOMERS WERE COMPLAINING ABOUT? SUDDENLY NOT DOOMERS ANYMORE? WE WERE RIGHT. APOLOGIZE TO THE FUCKING TIPHFAG RIGHT NOW YOU FUCKING NIGGER BEFORE I FIND AND FUCKING KILL YOU>more seasonal elements to ensure no more singular shills seasonslets see how that will work out.>we plan to increase the duration of seasonsoooooooh boy........>10 limited pulls each week for 30 totalnice. cool, but what about the gamep->adding further, anniversary will be a clear first step to the vision the new director has planned>*hopeful music continues to play*hmmmmmm. i dont know. they would have to unfuck so much. a whole year of shit and now they try to drive the other way? turning that car around amidst allat shieeee? good luck.so far its been nothing but meh promises and free shit. nothing that fixes the game. especially the savedata shit and no mentions of new modes where you can use your savedata was concerning™i wanna fall for it but i just cant
>>582042887>You forgot to say that you're lying.What part is a lie bwo?>>582042931>the longer seasons was moreso him just saying seasons are gonna be way crazier moving forward with lots more mechanics.>>582042983I think they mean literally longer.3 seasons instead of 4 per year for example
>>582043060
>>582042945Nah he still owe us
>>582043075>3 seasons instead of 4 per year for exampleSo 3 limited characters instead of 4. This is a good thing, because limiteds really want E2. But this also means 3 undetermined egos instead of 4. Hmm...
>>582043184Claude: please update this project with Olga.
>>582043132>no corruption mode>no purification protocolIt's not looking good bros they already lied to us twice. The next roadmap will be full with lies
It's not a gift if you took those 30 pulls from us during the season! It's a gift if you give those 30 pulls AND another 30 pulls on top of that.
>>582043060depends on what you consider broken promises.the only thing that has not been added into the game either through it being reworked/renamed/in spirit has been corruption mode, which hasn't officially been stated to not be happening yet.purification protocol admittedly changed so completely and so drastically that you could consider it entirely scrapped, but they did add a gamemode in the game to fill it's intended place.
Not rolling until Anniversary. Thanks for 10 rolls new director.
So...all doomposters points before are valid??
bros... please stop doomposting... i invested like 50 dollars into this game...
SERENIEL TRAP DO NOT ROLL
>>582043437This is the only gacha game where doomtitans are right. That's fucking huge achievement.
>>582043437because hopejeets in /czn/ are literal braindead niggercattle
New PD has big shoes to fill. Surely this means 1st anni will be a banger.
>>5820435571st anniversary is still under 30% cheaper than Mihoyo.
>>582043557Never trust a gook
>japanese and western comments start flooding in>they ask for m*lesIt's over. They'll get at least one and if it's noth Arthur and sells well we will lose. Our incelgacha...
>>582043075he outright says in that longer seasons section that seasons are going to have more mechanics rolled out as the season progresses
>>582043557>New PD has big shoes to fill.Because the old PD was a fat fuck?
>>582043557Don't hold your breath
/ourguy/ just posted the vid! he approves!
aside from 30 free pulls, the video proves nothing
>>581994223Look at this hopejeet. Throw stones at this tranny and kill it
>>582043697kek
>>582010738I think that's what we've been missing honestly, the lack of in door and more claustrophobic settings like darkest dungeon have to really get that dungeon delving experience. We need a chaos that is more labyrinthine like that with a focus on recovering treasure and loot. Can be like our own Bitter Black Isle experience.
>>582042126But will this bring the gooks back?
>>582043660Yeah I'm not saying that is not true but longer does not mean that they do more features in the same time span.The timespan will increase and the features will increase is what I understand.
>>582042772>>receiving save data outside of the game (LOL??? real money save data????)I can't wait to fly to gook land to download the super exclusive yuki deck (it makes her OP)
WE'RE IN GOOD HANDS HOLY FUCK IT'S FINALLY HAPPENING!!!!!!!!!
>>582044009not really, if your characters and story fail to make a splash nobody is staying long term, all the successful gacha that stay relevant for years have strong storytelling
>>582044045Imagine if they sold exclusive decks through merchandise>buy this product to redeem this exclusive decks with overpowered cards.
>>581995019basedI did it with khalipe today
>no nee game mode(s)>more nerfs confirmed>shill seasons even longer>never said "no" to shill but to have more variety shill instead for longer>even easier save data ACKquisitionLmao..CZN is deader than dead. It was a four minute video and you chose to address what you thought were the biggest points and issues? Well, that was a fail.
>>582043657veronica is NOT that big
skins not being in gameplay has served as an excellent smokescreen for all the other issues in the game, i've realized.it's not like skins actually matter, but as of right now the current top comment and about 25% (9 out of 37) of all comments that exist on the new PD video are about skins, rather than any of the gameplay or pull economy issues.
Damn more promises
>>582044887Lmao is he running for president election?
>>582044853honestly, I can excuse every other issue (especially gameplay-wise, since the devs' vision might not be at the point where it's complete enough or it contradicts what the people want) but the fact that skins don't actually show up during gameplay...holy fucking shit. Hire some goddamned part-time artists and have them make cards and gameplay sprites for all the skins ASAP.
THIRTY PULLSSSSDEVSLISTENEEEEDDD!!!!!!!!!!!1000000000 million viewsOOOOOOOOOOOH DEVS LISTENED!!!!!!
>>582044887Now that you mention it in that tone, damn, shit's grim indeed
>>582044176>>582044045Amazing monetization idea
damn, hopeGODS just keep winning
>>582045072WE ARE SO
>season is done in 2-3 days>they are making it even easier
>>582045063i mean, i get their logic.the ego animations and the card hover animations are obviously where most of the character budget goes as they are true animations. sg doesn't want to just have the skins not replace the most visually impactful part of the characters in gameplay, so they just outright don't allow skins in gameplay.their fuckup was the half-measure. they had already stated that they intended for no skins in the game because it would take as much money to create a skin as it would to just make an entirely new combatant, and obviously a new combatant would make them more money.now everyone looks at this obviously half-assed bullshit compromise and calls bullshit. they can't take it back now, either.
>>582045513>they had already stated that they intended for no skinsThey also said no limited banner
>New director said there'd be no nerf>Unless..
>>582045895i mean yeah, that's fair.
