>Blizzard's new version of World of Warcraft, based on vanilla WoW>Set in the same Azeroth but expanded upon with new zones, dungeons, raids, quests and much more>Many new race/class combos including Undead Paladin and Dwarf Shaman>More than 1k quests added making a 25% increase in quest content alone>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app>When is it being released?November 4th>Beta GuildsType /who g-"Guild name" to see who's online, whisper anyone for an invite, or ask in thread.<wowfg> - PvP, Horde, crossregion but will be on EU on release<Little Space> PvP, Alliance, crossregion but will be on NA on releaseOld>>581997498
>female toon
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHFOREVER HAS TO FAILIT HAS TO
>>582014252then beat them in pvp faggot
>>582014401uh oh melty
if blizzard are woke why haven't they added body type 3 with a female face, flat chest, wide hips and narrow shoulders to every race
>>582011284its really not THAT good when youre capped on rage in raids anyways
this is who forever is being made for
will south park make another episode for forever?
what class/race screams "cock sleeve" the most?
>>582014745Human male paladin
>>582014745gnome priest
>having a general for a game that isn't even released yetMental fucking illness.
>>582014745female human warlock
>>582014745skelf healslut druid
If blizzard thinks it's too expensive or if their too lazy to make standard definition models, why don't they ask the community to make them for them, two days after the beta started someone in the community made a standard definition owlbear druid form and that person did it for free
>>582014745male tauren warrior
>>582014689I refuse to believe this many troll players exist
>>582014852i meanyou dont have to be here
>>582014852THE ONLY PEOPLE THINKING ABOUT FOREVER ARE RETARDS
>Literally nobody is playing/speaking about Elemental ShamanHas there ever existed a more raped spec?
>>582014852>isn't even released yetI'm playing right now thoughbeit?
>>582014730South Park didn't even make a Chinpokomon GO episode. They hate to retread the same ground unless it's about Trump. If it involves Trump they will gladly make several seasons of the exact same thing.
>>582014852>noooo you can’t just be excited for a game and discuss it!!
>>582014745human male warrior
>>582014730They only make episodes about culturally relevant things.
>>582014852The beta is literally playable you dumb nigger
>>582014689I don't get why classic and private server anons make fun of this, aren't these communities filled with troons? Like, MoH had a half the guild being orbiters around 2-3 women
>streamer is pvping in my farming spot in the middle of nowhere
>feral druid scales with weapon damage
>>582014920so true
>>582014915They’ll just wait until the outrage addicts find something else to cry about and forget about the shitty SD models because 99% of players are using HD.
you know somethingim just glad i picked the correct gameblizzard has these people mentally brokenits funny watching the 40 year olds have spergouts in these threads
>>582014689Wow it's everyone on /vg/
>>582014915Blizzard is too proud they'd never accept community help
Please tell me Ele/Enh shaman is going to be S tier PVP specs. You don't even have to believe it, just tell me anyways.
>>582014915The people who want SD models (or rather were told to think they do) are an extremely vocal minority, similar to 'midcore' raiders.In either case Blizz shouldn't waste resources on their demands.
>>582015153this sounds rough man. you ok?
>>582015153Enh is S tier and that's the truthEle is S tier
>>582015153yeah, bro, shamans are going to be fucking busteddwarf shaman will be literally unstoppable
>>582015185it's time to go back
>>582015153they will be, brothey fucking will be
>>582015103
I live to serve horde men!
>>582015153Hahahahaha, oh sweaty, no. Well actually it depends on what you mean by good. It’ll be trash 1v1, but it’ll be good as a support class in BGs.
>>582014730iirc they hated the wow south park episode and thought it sucked, and it kind of does t b q h.
>>582015052>playable to level 20 where nothing happens because your class doesnt come online until level 30>anything worth a fuck has already been discussed the first week>retards keep talking about the 1-20 bracket>general is full of retarded pay piggies, retoileters and parasocial retards
>>582015325It probably made a lot of normies buy WoW though.
>>582015279*sigh*fap fap fap fap fap
>>582015340Bro that's weird your goalposts are haunted or something they're moving
Soon
>>582014745not enough dog dick dildos to stuff in your mouth and ass to satisfy you or are they all dirty and you're waiting for your mom to clean them for the next upcoming 45 minute wank cycle and you need us to entertain your adhd tiktok brain until she's done or what
>>582015116it's insane how bad her retail model isWotLK sylvanas remains peak sylvanas.>>582015381yeah it probably did and I was one of them, I had never heard of warcraft before I saw it in that episode.
>>582015381I wouldn't be surprised if WoW paid them to make it.They literally had constant commercials back then with people like Mr T and his Night Elf Mohawk.
>>582015448i dunno if i can accept old worlo artstyle dying with forever
Forever needs to be more grimdark. More rape and genocide would be nice.
>>582015112>>582015185retoilets always quick to respond to shoot down any positive suggestion made for the game, really feels like the official forums in here
>>582015387*drops windfury totem**you get triple fap procs*
>>582015563at this point wow should be rated e.
>>582015595need an album of this skelf getting gangbanged by alliance men
what are the correct rogue talents?
>>582015595you posted the wrong one
>>582015585You don’t have to like it, but it’s the truth.
>>582014915>someone in the community made a standard definition owlbear druid form and that person did it for freeno they didn't, they asked grok to make a jpg of what a SD model might look like. making an actual 3D that animates correctly is far more work.
>>582014730>Episode has trump trying to level in forever but kyle keeps killing him>trump cries to his bosses in Israel leading to the zionists putting pressure on kyle to stop ganking>kyle sticks to his guns>turns out trump didn't know about different server types and the episode ends with everyone learning a lesson about not rolling pvp server if you don't want to pvp>post credits scene shows trump playing on a rp server and pretending to be obama so that people will actually like him
>>582014974If Blizzard doesn't want me playing a spec, who am I to argue?
>>582015279this is a janny pedophile namefag that does by the moniker Gardener, he posts child porn on /b/
my class is bad. your class, overpowered. straight up
>>582015746*loud buzzer noise*i'm just a pervert there are a dozen of us who use that anon's images.take your meds
>>582015448But why?
>>582015595Sometimes, I rip the skin.
>>582015595give her a tinier one poking his back
>>582015595>>582015710this is a spamming avatarfaggot janny pedophile that namefags under the name Gardener and posts child porn to /b/
>>582015710kek
>>582015868not your boogeyman take your meds
>>582015595Is that James Rolfe the AVGN? How'd he get in WoW?
There should be a cash shop toggle that turns all the future store mounts into generic horses/wolves.
Is it not possible to train tailoring, blacksmithing or leather working beyond 150? No trainer will talk to me.
>>582015808yea, we already know you're all in a pedophile janny discord
>>582015959it was the elves no anglo saxon can resist
>>582015810you would never play a game on the commodore 64 and this looks like that to zoomers.
>>582015742shadowGODS
>>582015976> You can learn Expert Leatherworking from Telonis in Darnassus (Alliance) and Una in Thunder Bluff (Horde).don’t know if it actually works in forever tho.
Adollf Hitler just posted in the trade chat and people went "umm that's getting reported"
>>582015585I do that and I also make suggestions for features that will eat away at the game like an acid, but I don't play either version of WoW. In fact I literally just made a wowhead arguing for arena.
>i wrote "retail-" into asmongold's chat>got bannedhow come? is that like the n word for classic andys?
>>582015710
>>582015153>No elemental masteryLmao
>level 20>full blues retail-
>>582016025I just figured he was gonna take me back to the past to play the shitty games that suck ass.
>>582016284>ummm... you're Adolf Hitler
Deport all hordecuck racemixing fetishists back through the dark portal
imagine getting a handcrafted enchant by adlof hitler
>>582016295I think what they call you is the modern audience, you've lost studios and companies billions maybe even trillions of dollars over the course of the last decade alone, well done
AHHHHHHHHHH THE COLOR OF THE TEXT ON MY ITEMS IS BLUE INSTEAD OF GREEN I'M GONNA FREAK OUT
>>582016450what if adolf hitler was chinese and gay
>>582016325i got banned for typing "well..."
>>582016526>he says while shipping elves with humans in all his slopleast retarded ai spammer
>>582016560@Grok show me what adolf hitler would look like if he was chinese or black
>>582016560There's like a 70% chance that guy was some kind of gay asian
The items are blue. the elves are blue. What else is going to be blue?
Asking again for those who've tried both classes, paladin vs druid tanking in forever? Want to level one as a tank and I've never tried paladin, played bear tank to the mid 40's in classic.
>>582016691my balls when goblin females dont get added
>>582016325They're desperate for that copium. The hype will die in 2 months anyway.
Save me Chris MetzenAdd back the chunky panda ladiesPlease Metzen save me
>>582016691your mom when I face fuck herlmao
>>582016526>>582016393>>582016325>>582016025look how the pedophile janny spams the same image over and over again, this type of behavior is only seen on the maddest of blackmailed russian pedophiles, this is a janny pedophile avatarfag that goes by the name Gardener who posts child porn on /b/
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>>582016691Your house with a little window and your corvette
>IF PIPEL stOp BuyinG gOLd thEN wE fiXEd dA Bot pRobLem...Is there anything more retarded than this talking point? I wish I could see what the people who say this look like
>>582016632You self insert as the guy in the cuck chair holding your girlfriend's hand in one hand and your nintendo switch in the other.I self insert as the colonist chad plapping native qt3.14 all across the new world.We are not the same.
>>582016086TRVTH NVKEFucking COOKED that pig DAMN
>>582016839Skywife is the mascot of WoW forever and I garuntee you they've been posting in these generals longer than you have, tourist.
>>582016086I'd play that Egg Dizzy game or whatever the fuck it was called, that looked fun.
>>582017027>posturinghow surprising
>>582017025I think banning everything around the bots including the people buying gold and funding them is crucial to solving the problem yes.
>>582017025>I don't actually like playing video games >thats why I pay a brown third worlder to farm gold for me
retail is for failed men who never leave their rooms because if they did they'd shrivel up and die from the shame and disgust a real person's eyes would convey towards them, that's why they post tranime avatars and sit in discord all day masterbating every 45 minutes lol just waiting for the day they end up with enough courage to hang themselves
We got our own schizoWe're a real /vg/ general now, well done /wowfg/
>>582017207Or we could just disable trading and the auction house and nip this problem in the bud once and for all.
>>582017372That's not the spirit of vanilla
i miss wowcg...
>>582016839> look how the pedophile janny spams the same image over and over again,It’s funny you only say this about the images where the sex elf doesn’t have a cock.
>>582017337Bro we've known retail has sucked hard shit for over a decade. Why do you think Classic happened in the first place?
They should add a harpy dungeon to mulgore
>>582017418things a gold seller would say
>>582017372Or we could just not turn on the servers and turn the MMO into a single player game.I would say there's a ton of dumb solutions and that's one of them.
Instead of transmog they should have made a new system that rewards you for putting on matching gear somehow
>>582017452Classic is a tranny game lol and the servers died after a few months, forever is for us the new audience and we will displace all the trannies.
>>582016806ROFL>>582016767Jesus Christ I love thick stacks
this general has had a schizo posting the same blue elf images in every thread for 8 days straight, in fact it has more than one, it has a discord full of themtiktok tik tok the rope is waiting, janny and company
>>582017504why is it dumb? there's still questing and battlegrounds and dungeons and raids which only make up 100% of the game left to play
>>582015810how are you supposed to sell this to 40 year old disney fans
>>582017561Those are called gear sets and they've been in the game since day 1.
>>582016806do magalards really pray to trump to save them ?
>>582017359Hes been at it nonstop for days, im not entirely convinced its a real person
>>582017612
I don't like grouping up for dungeons, I got kicked yesterday for refusing to heal the tank who couldn't hold threat (I hopped into bearform and showed him how it was done and I guess his microdick couldn't take it lol)When are delves releasing on the beta? Do they have a level requirement?
Saw the most beautiful female dwarf art on Twitter, looked back at wow female dwarves, and just sighed.
>>582017630and none of them can post an image of them playing the game. curious!
>>582017656Bundle it with this 60-100 dollarino
>>582017561The reward will be winning Asmon's weekly transmog comp. The mount comp will be bi weekly.
>>582017630meds
>>582017504no trading is already a ruleset in guild wars, guild wars 2, osrs, and wow hardcore
>>582017372people will seethe but this is correct. the in game economy of wow is shockingly low impact already compared to a typical mmo, essentially its only purpose is to buy and sell consumables, a function that could easily be replaced. You can't directly obtain any meaningful form of progression with money, gold is basically a vestigial feature outside of dedicated gold sinks like mount costs and repairs, almost all of which do not interact with the player economy whatsoever. Virtually everything about the game would be improved if trading was impossible for all but the most basic resources like food/water.
>>582017697I was more thinking adding colour matching stuff together not just normal sets
>>582017634>Completely remove an entire social aspect of the game>There's still other aspects of the gameWell yeah, but I wouldn't say it's 100% unless you're a retard. Crafting alone wouldn't be interesting enough to do anything outside of craft a single item once without trading. If you don't enjoy those aspects that's fine but other people do.>>582017870Then go play those games with more interesting systems.
Why did they have to announce it so early? The waiting is killing me.
>>582017630>I'm mad because slopanon is getting more attention than me!!I love it when they self report, kek.
>>582017025Don't hate them for being right.
>medsyou need them, because what kind of sane person would think this is healthy the fate that awaits all janny pedophiles
More trading. More gold sinks. Housing added to Forever as well.
How is the ping for EU now?Still 1000+?
>can't sit while fishingcomfiness ruined
>Undead get Paladin and it's super broken in Forever.>Dwarves get Shaman and it's unplayable dogshit. A race that already didn't get a racial update like literally every other race in the game.I don't understand. They love Gnomes but hate dwarves. They love Druid but hate Shaman. What did they mean by this?
>>582017954because forever is part of their new development strat and they did an early announcement to hype the new server
>>582018057Tseric was rehired
>>582017907Bigger issue I feel is the bot farmers weaponizing reports to scare off or ban any competition. But that would take a human to review the reports, and that doesn't excite the shareholders.
>>582016580Ban all elves and their weird obsession with wells.
>>582017630I love the sex elf slop its the only reason i come here
>>582018057Doesn't matter, allyfags are going to abduct you for groups 24/7 once they get a taste of windfury.
the reddit spacing troon janny that samefag replies to itself along with it's gaggle of discord trannies is bragging about tiself lol this shit is embarrassing
>>582015671Rape is rated E for everyone
Does the game have higher graphical requirements even running on SD? I'm not sure my potato PC can run more than classic WoW.
>>582018038eat then fish doesn't work?
>>582018126Classic+ means we're going to need bus shock+
No Pandas, no buy!>>582016806Based!!!
>this cringe inorganic meme and avatarfagging spam i lovenigger, we knowyou love to be annoying and repetitive, it's the only thing going on in your life outside of discord you are massively mentally ill and really really really fucking lonely to do this off-topic spam and shit up the general that just wants to talk about the game, you need to be committed and institutionalized
People would genuinely kill themselves if the AH got restricted and we had to fall back to a barter economy like in pre-GE Runescape.
>>582018221You need an RTX580/1060 or higher and a 3.4Gz+ CPUIn return you get 50 million particles of fog and a shitty overt bloom effect raping your eyes.
>>582017780/me playing the game :3
It should have pandas, it's true.
>>582018057>i dont understand why aggrend who admittedly mains paladin and is one of the lead devs has made paladin the star of the show!yeah a real mystery
>>582018457I don't see the problem at this point the game is unrecognizable from it's base form, what can this hurt, this is a fun server
>>582017780it speaks volumes
>>582018457It would genuinely cure my depression if all trading was disabled and I could craft everything on my alts and mail it to my main
>>582018594Oh I think it'd be hilarious, I just know that there are a large contingent of players who play WoW to "play the market" for some goddamn reason.
>>582015742>forever™ ele shamans need naxx bis to compete with mages wearing level 58 greens is this class balance?
>What did you want me to do? Eureka! wasn't up yet
>>582017484And it should be 42 to 47 level range
>>582018663>trading disabled>but mail worksretard
To expand on anon’s shaman point>made an entire expansion based on elemental dinosaur dragons that war against the god touched dragons. They’ve got a terrorist group comprised of shamen>shamans are not only completely irrelevant that entire expansion, even Evoker the actually new class (while broken) was lore wise are irrelevant and it’s really about Druids (because FUCKING ELVES. I can’t even say I’m stunned, even midnight has another rug pull where horde doesn’t have anything to say about what happens in silver moon and helping out the blood elves. Because we need to suck off some more elf lore including both siding the Amani/bloodelf feud like the filthy liberals blizzard writers are.
>>582018457>People would kill themselves if the game had SOVLTrue. Look at Retail.
I will be playing mage
>>582018057The icon for Eureka is that pink-haired whore mascot from Rumble. I think whoever designed her is working on Forever, thus why Gnomes ended up so overpowered.
>>582018697Vanilla balance
>>582018739i was going to add an asterisk with "except trading between characters on the same account", but excuse me for wanting to not make my post unreadable
>>582018758I don't play retail, what's it like?
>>582018696No, they play Wow to make rentstill gotta pay the bills even in the favela and the commie block
>>582018561Just like my heckin Private Servers.
>>582014974nobody playing lock or mage eitherI think they just forgot to buf casters, except SP for some reason
is horde pvp still locked?
>>582018663If trading was disabled there would be no reason to limit people to 2 professions, you could just let everyone learn every profession.which would also be better, because it would give you that much more stuff to do much like OSRS that so many people have been comparing to.
>>582016325hype, cope, and blinders are on and fully powered, it will be several months before the honeymoon is over.
>>582018763Nepo hires who fail are rarely let go or even demoted, instead they get shuffled around. Just look at that bioware writer now working on Diablo.
>>582018536>>582018402>>582016806Brothers... how do we go about achieving our goal?
Even with Paladin being a very strong contender for being OP, a lot of people will still get filtered by the leveling process and the glut of Retardins flooding the DPS pool rather than accept that they are a hybrid and off-spec heal or tank.
>>582018718man I wish he would come back, imagine the shitposting.....
>>582019101Why don't you retards go play OSRS instead of going>Damn wouldn't it be cool if WoW was OSRS then I'd play it
>>582018718this guy has been outed as a retard in every facet of his life and careers how does he still have an audience
>>582019159>a lot of people will still get filtered by the leveling processwhat filter? ret demolish everything and never stop
i set my profile to chubby girls in asia and it was like being brad pitt for a week. drowned in sweaty sloppy wet sticky panda girl snatch
>>582019127Content creators already salivating at the thought of making 'What went wrong with forever' videos featuring a big red arrow pointing at the words horizontal progression.
>>582019231It's still objectively the most boring leveling spec not to mention that people will naturally fall off while leveling as they reroll/get bored/etc.
Wow forever soon. My wifey can't wait!
>DUDE THEY MADE PALADIN SO OP>try it out>it's the same garbage as vanilla but you get 1 extra button to press every 12sIs this class just overhyped because they happen to be better at killing mobs at level 10?
>>582019273That's because their idea of horizontal progression it's retarded
>>582019204Not an argument. Try using arguments next time.
>>582019328would you fuck off
>>582019341it's mostly just losers that still have their preferred wow class as the primary pillar of their identity at 39 years old asshurt that the objectively most dysfunctional class got the most amount of work done to it. they are so deranged they unironically believe the devs are conpsiring against specifically them and their preferred class.
>>582015742This looks promising for dps priest (maybe smite wont be a meme?)
>>582018594Yeah because that's a way to attract new players is forcing people to spam a forum all day with>Selling 2000 iron ore 50s eaAnd then praying any potential buyers login at the same times that you can play and also organizing all this just so someone can try to scam you then run away if it doesn't work. All this if you want to have a mount.
>>582019510>spam a forumNo you stand in the designated market spots in each city and spam your shill text there.
>>582019310it's really not, the new talent tree and abilities are meaningful and come online really earlyThe real filter will be at lvl60 when 50% of the horde is UD ret pals
Bards would be perfect for the vibe of Forever
>>582019402Why don't you go play the game you want to play instead of wishing WoW was that game is an argument. You just don't have the mental capacity to understand how stupid you sound and look when you say it.
>>582019510just make vendor sale prices higher for all resources and vendor your shit to afford your mount.I'm beyond over in game player economies. the amount of bullshit they invite into the game is way way way not worth the tiny amount they add to the game if anything.
Put all the "Simple transmog" items from the trading post into Forever
>>582019613how about you suck my cock
>>582019341the only people that play paladin and act excited towards it are brown third world subhumans, that's who's stuck around for twenty years, that's who you're hearing, that's who you're going to be seeing running around trying to tank and get aggro while their party gets wiped and then their going to bubble hearth and pretend the class can still tank
>>582014915In a world of constant PR obsession you'd be amazed how many problems and controversies can go away not by addressing them or even doing a half-assed "we'll do better in the future", but by just ignoring it until it goes away.
>>582019227Because they only get his side
>>582019674something like that will eventually happen and they will use the forever models for retail
>>582019619It'll always be better to sell to players because they need it and will also have more gold from vendoring shit at a higher price.>>582019558That's if you're only selling small amounts of one or two items.
>>582018457it'd just end up like the instant response work orders shit. it'd echo your inventory and price based off something like tsm. you'd say copper ore and get 30 responses.ah is one of those necessary evil type of things where it kills a lot of socialization and amplifies any economic excess or death spiral but there's nothing better. supporting a huge number of players and items in a chat room is impractical and you don't want shit popping up outside of game where people do dumb things like reuse their wow account password. even as it is in retail this shit with outside website lookups is super tiresome to have to do and is too profitable as well.
>>582019510you don't understand we're in the making changes phases of wow forever, it doesn't have to be a good chance or a change that makes sense, it just has to change, you need to start thinking like a tranny to understand this, it's how they justify castrating themselves
>>582019702Not an argument. Try using arguments next time.
>>582015742Why did they make spells so shit
>>582019842you won't be able to sell it to other players if there is no trading. trading serves literally no meaningful purpose in wow, all significant forms of character progression must be obtained yourself. For all practical purposes wow is already ironman mode, the tiny vestigial remnant of player economy does absolutely nothing to improve the game while facilitating the existence of the plague of bots.
>>582019159They still suck in pvp. They're just a nuisance.
Blizzard if you're in these threads, please give us a WoW Triple Triad in Forever.
NOCHANGES
>>582015563Haven't the humans suffered enough?
A toast!To the death of Retoilet and the final, ultimate victory of Forever GODS!
>>582020013>They still suck in pvp.I dont think you looked at their fucking tree at all, they are 100% gonna be busted
>>582017207>>582017328Esls who missed the point>>582017962If you think they are right you are stupid
>>582020031Just wait for the Forever version of the Darkmoon Faire.
>>582020052I can drink to that!
Next Race set gotta beHigh Elves and Goblins.
>>582020091you just run away from them lol
im kinda dooming about locksthis shit sucks, nobody talk about it, nobody is even playing itmeanwhile ret get a full blown rework and esfand has aggrend on speed dial to demand shit like sweal twist or reckoning, wtf is this
im only lvl 18.5
>>582020219goblins are cringe, no one plays that shit.
>>582020008Just because you don't use it doesn't mean other people don't. The only way I genuinely believe you underplay a video game economy this much is that you're being disingenuous anyway.Just because a bunch of asocial retards play the MMO in one of the worst, antisocial and boring ways for a "challenge" doesn't mean everyone wants to. WoW isn't engaging enough to not be an MMO otherwise you could just spin up an Azeroth core server and fill it with bots that group with you and offer light conversation with Chat GPT.
King's honor friend
>>582020250What sucks about it?I think my 2nd char will be a lock
>>582020250warlock is literally near-retail levels of ridiculously overbuffed wtf are some of the posts im seeing ITT?
>>582020293Alliance has a Short Tinkerer race. Horde needs a Short Tinkerer race.The symmetry is beautiful.
they should reduce name view range at night. doesn't make sense to be able to see names so far away in this mist/darkness
>>582020304>HURRRR HYPERBOLE LMAO!!Removing player trading makes the game single player? I guess you don't play with other people in dungeons, raids, bgs, worldpvp etc? Tell me, what is it that you buy from other players that you find so compelling?
>>582020240>instant repentance>15% perma movespeedhave any of you guys looked at the talent tree
Vanilla class balance is so fucking bad. Like some classes just have everything and then you have something like Shaman…..just lmao
>>582020250only play the most powerful race and class combinations, if no one plays the garbage then maybe one day they'll do something about itpretty straight forward wouldn't you say
>>582020524shamans have a secret talent that says "1/1 100% chance to get invited to raid night and 90% lower chance of being /gkicked"
>>582020524??? shamans have a bunch of shit other classes can't do
>>582020356can I see footage of this retail-level of performance?
>>582020524if you were looking for the vanilla thread this isn't it
>>582020486It's 7% since everyone has minor speedalso>hunter: cheetah>shaman: ghost wolf>rogue: sprint, vanish>druid: travel form>mage: blink>warlock: fear>priest: fearso the only class that can't reliably run away is, warrior?
Hyjaj RWF gonna be lit.BRING IT HOME EU
>>582020524?, It may not be a good DPS or the best healer but it has unparallel utility
wands are so good>priest enchanter>crafts wands>cast bubble-> wand everything to death>never oom again
>he's still playing wow: forever virgin well into his 40sKEKAROOOO
>>582020412Yes, removing aspects of a multiplayer MMORPG makes it a single player game.>Tell me, what is it that you buy from other players that you find so compelling?You mean the town chat that's being spammed with people buying/selling things and light conversation as well as people filling the world and grinding gold and offering the same convos when you run into them?Yes dude I'd love a big empty world with no reason to be in it outside of leveling because there's no trading thus little to no world pvp outside of ganking lowbies then everyone will just hide and level in dungeons.There's no reason to be out in the world collecting anything.
>Casters almost all female characters>Can use "wands"What did Greenfield mean by this?
>>582020524there's no such thing as balance, this whole discussion is a fruitless endeavor, that we've seen play out over and over and over again for the past twenty years, it's the virtual embodiment of mental retardation
>>582020524dude never enjoyed the comfort of just placing sticks in the ground and throwing out the occasional heal........ and people love you for it !!!!
>>582020250I've played all classes but warlock, i don't care
>>582020645the only run a warrior needs is to his foe or to his corpse
>>582020664>retoilet discovers something from the pastThat's how priest has always leveled up.
>Got my 257 Coals ready to sell>Set up the shop real quick in the morning before leaving for school>Debate with my buddies which numetal songs are the best>Come back hours later to find all my coals sold instantly and a guy sitting next to me selling for double the priceThese were the days... Screw the AH
>>582020648lmao I remember the retail guilds trying to make a spectacle of the 2019 classic RWF only to get demolished by a random private server guild.
>>582020641"overpowered"
>>582020641https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH5Se-4G2Fg
>>582020738What a bullshit answer, you seriously think that most of the activity in the game is for the purpose of obtaining gold? You can't even tell me what you spend your gold on. Most people don't go to cities to trade either, they go for training, quests and transportation. Most people aren't out in the world grinding gold, they are leveling, gaining rep, or gathing resources which they would ALSO be doing probably even moreso if they had to obtain all of their own resources.I'll ask again. What is it that you buy from other players that you find so compelling? Fail to answer this again, and you lose.
>>582020886A bazaar/market stall like in older KMMOs would be kind of peak tbqh.
>>582020579>just become part of the ud ret swarm brogrim
To be honest if windfury was made into a consumable I wouldn't mind shaman getting removed
>>582020886based, lineage 2 was the goat
>>582020957Nta, but mounts and consumables are definitely the biggest gold sinks.
>>582020949wtf is this retarded website lmaouse wcologs not this meme bullshit
>>582020949>>582020954>lock can deal 250k dps>ragnaros has 2m hpmc about to get solo cleared on day2
>>582021067Mounts which you already have to get yourself and consumables which could very easily be reworked to not require player trading whatsoever. And raid consumables aka consumes that give you a flat stat buff is a dogshit mechanic anyway which is why they all but removed it in later expansions.
>>582020957>What a bullshit answer, you seriously think that most of the activity in the game is for the purpose of obtaining gold?A lot of world PvP is centered around controlling resources like Devilsaurs. Do you even play the game?Spending gold isn't the compelling part farming it is. You already know what you want to buy you have to figure out what to do to obtain it.>Most people aren't out in the world grinding goldDo you even play WoW or are you here from some third worlder grindfest MMO where the goal is to just endlessly mindlessly grind stats so you can grind more stats?
>>582016325blasting on those tits
>>582020250I think both mages and warlocks are in a shit place right now with their talents and spells. I don't not think either will be an enjoyable playing experience without major changes. Which sucks because I wanted to play one of them. Warrior outside of prot also feels like ass. Rage generation is way too low. They went too far with the nerfs.
>>582021073>use world of clogs not this bullshitwhy would I need a plumber
>>582021201They could just you every item in the game for free when you start a character.
>>582021319>Spending gold isn't the compelling part farming it isFarming you would also have to do even more than you already do if you had to get things yourself. >Do you even play WoWSo again, you dodge the question. Keeping trading in the game is the most important thing in the world to you, but you can't name a single thing that you buy from other players that meaningfully adds to the game.You are supporting this for the sake of supporting it because it's all you know. You are a low IQ imbecile that defaults to defending the routines you have been performing for years without thinking because you are incapable of critically thinking.
so what's the word with the beta boysdoes it fucking suck?should I get un hype and just buy retail? or should I keep waiting to get my fix on the 4th?
>>582020886>heading to bazaar in everquest back in PoP>character moving at a snail's pace because I am so overeucumbered with platmemories
>>582021523>retailThe fuck? If you've played retail past wotlk you're retarded. And even TBC and wotlk were fucked.
when will we get Pandaren?
Warrior, paladin, feral druid. What are your guys predictions?>Which will be the best raid tank for bosses>Which will be the best raid tank for AoE pulls>Which will be the least ass to play in the open world and farm gold with>Which will have the easiest time in pvp
man what the fuck did they do to warrior rage generation?
>>582021645hmm... fairly putI'll keep waiting
>>582021765balanced it around endgame raiding
>>582021674>druid>paladin>paladin>druid
>>582021674probably prot warrior MT and either OT all of them can dual spec for farmingMS is still king in pvp
still no email invites. cool man
>paladins after popping every cd just to get within melee range of an enemy mage to tickle them with their only 2 damaging spells
>>582021484>but you can't name a single thing that you buy from other players that meaningfully adds to the game.So you're just too low IQ to understand what I said. It doesn't matter the whole point is you have multiple avenues to approach what you set out to get.You can technically farm anything in the game given infinite time but a lot of the time it's better to just buy the item than to raw farm out shit like Lionsheart helm recipes which you can then use to make your gold back through the same system you used to buy it. Especially depending on your class and what is easily available for you to farm(Wow this adds class variety and strengths and weaknesses!!!!!)But we should just remove that because you're just way too stupid to be able to think of a reason trading should be able to exist.Either way it's pointless to argue with you because you're just an upset moron who cries and throws a tantrum when you're told that you're blatantly wrong instead of trying to critically think about anything.
>>582021523I like WoW Forever. And I like its beta.
>>582021674warriorpaladinpaladin druid**unless you mean easiest skill wise. Then warrior since you can unga bunga and just do damage
>>582021893we probably wont get a round of invites until asmons legion of jeets finally gets bored and leave
>>582021880>MS is still king in pvpIt takes 3 weapon swings to use 1 mortal strike. Warrior pvp is immeasurably bad right now.
>>582021917LHH is a bad item and you shouldn't waste gold on it
>>582022041Left Handed Hitters do suck
>>582021893People should know from Blizzards previous beta tests that getting a random email invite is basically impossible.
>>582021917>just buy the item than to raw farm out shit like Lionsheart helm recipesThis is the lack of critical thinking I was talking about. It's inconceivable to you that simple things like this could be changed to accommodate a lack of player trading because you have been playing this game since you were a child and worship it like a religion. You have literally rewired your brain to only think in terms of classic wow because it's literally the most important thing in your life, you are actually that pathetic.
>new UD racial is bis for both pve and pvpHow does Blizzard manage to do it?
How are they gonna make MC not dogshit
>>582022036nah with a slow weapon you get it in two I agree it's a lot worse than before but MS is still MS so it doesn't matter and there is no alternative Crocolisk MS isn't going to get there people will just kite it because I don't think it can dash, or they'll CC it or kill it very quickly
so let me get this straight. humans sword crit is 2% AND works with autoattacks, while orc axe crit is 1% and does NOT work with autoattacks. does that make any sense?
>>582022172I told you fags Touch of the Grave was OP.
>>582021662Soon
>>582022206pretty sure it's just wording and this shit work with both attacks, abilities and spells
>>582022145>Nooooo you need to fundamentally change everything about the game to accommodate what I want ME ME ME>It's just a small change to completely rework the crafting system and trading and gathering and how you acquire food and pots it's small I swear>Muh hyperbole btw when you say shit like this
>>582022172Yet if you mentioned it prior to beta retarded faggots would say it's an exact copy of the retail touch of the grave despite having a completely different tooltip.
Alexensual runs this general
>>582022343
>>582021852>>582021880>>582021938>thinking paladin will be better thandruid at anythingAll druids will have a spell power set that they buff with to get massive thorns damage. Paladin aoe is capped at 4. Druid aoe with swipe, berserker, and thorns is objectively the best right now. Plus druids can now use items in bear form. Paladins also have shit mitigation scaling. Druids will have huge hp, armor and dodge. Paladins will have weak blocks, no dodge, and lower hp.I think warriors are the best single target tanks due to having the best mitigation and will likely have big single target threat with fury/prot. Druids will be second, and paladin last.
bit sad seeing that the new tiersets all have that utter retail-ified look about them. No idea why they insist on this.
>>582022206Orc gets Blood Fury and Human doesn't have a 2nd dps increase racial.Dwarf mace spec is also only 1% because they get the beast racial.
>>582022206good axes are way more prevalent while leveling so it balances out
>>582022206Idk. ask Claude, that's what the Blizzard interns who slapped this remaster together did.
>game try a bunch of wacky new ideas to shake the meta but quickly turn to shit because it fail horribly at balancing them
>>582022206I think all of the crit weapon racials only work on abilities, not auto attacks.
>>582022309>changing how you acquire rare recipes is fundamentally changing everythingYes in fact that is hyperbole. And there is your low IQ I was talking about on display. Also very fun when the person that claimed to be done with the conversation can't help but reply again lmao, just more evidence of how pathetic you are.
private server tranny raid
>>582020409Turn off player names for ultimate immersion. Why would you know someone's name before they introduce themselves?
>>582022172>TOTG can proc off your pickpocket as a rogue and breaks you out of stealth
>>582022621When the posts crying (retail) show up it's shitposters spamming an agenda who read a headline and a shitpost and based their entire view of Forever off that.
this new combat system is DOGSHIT
>>582022573I mean, it doesnt matter what "ideas" this had. It was modern WoW. It's not even a fucking MMO, the ideas dont matter.
comparing vanilla with a reagent bag slot to shadowlands is an interesting position
>>582022740>he fell for the "classic has good gameplay" meme
WoW's development budget goes to HR land whales to craft awful disney pixat stories no one cares about, while the gameplay features can't get sorted out, that will never not be funny as fuck, an entire franchise held hostage for at least the last decade or more and kept in a hellish mediocrity
>>582022665Since when does pickpocket count as an attack?
>>582022740Why are you just spamming sinister strike?
>>582022874touch of the grave can proc from non-damaging spells for some reason.
You are playing a top tier spec, right /wowfg/?
>>582022874THe racial procs off of literally anything that touches your target.
>>582022206orcs get blood fury
>>582022923Well that just sounds like a bug, better report it
>>582022597>changing how you acquire rare recipes is fundamentally changing everythingYou've said more than just "rare recipes" already and now you're just backpedaling and being disingenuous because you're losing. I didn't say I was done just that it was pointless because you can't fucking read or just have zero comprehension of what you have read and are just having a mental breakdown because you're mind broken at being told that your idea is bad and stupid.Hence you sitting here and calling me pathetic and demanding I give you an answer like a child and when I say anything you just go>W-well they can rework the whole system to make it easier to acquire since it's solo onlyRetail is right there buddy
>Asmon already below average viewership when leveling his undead Paladin altWhat went wrong with Forever? The Beta was a mistake. Players are getting burned out from leveling 9 classes to level 20 via the exact same RXP guide.
>>582022573>wacky new ideas to shake the metaWhere was that in SL? You got the functional equivalents of a talent row per class that you had to grind for if you had the temerity to want to try something else
>>582022939Feral druid to the end.
>>582022978It's apparently intended because it was breaking mage polymorph but they hotfixed it to still proc off polymorph but not break it instead of removing the proc on the spell entirely.
>>582022939>woyer above retsending this to aggrend rn
>>582023052I honestly pray for your death
>>582022573His in!
>>582023051>You've said more than just "rare recipes" alreadyReally? What did I say then. You know what I noticed YOU did NOT say, what it is that you buy from other players that you find so compelling. And the reason why you haven't is because you don't have an answer and you know it. You are reflexively defending this shitty system that creates the conditions for botting because you associate it with your childhood before you became a total unrecoverable failure at life.
>13% crit in bear form from talents>100% chance to gain an additional 5 Rage any time you get a critical strike while in Bear Form or Dire Bear Form>Dots can crit too with lacerate>9% dodge from talents>100% chance to gain 5 Rage each time you dodge.Druid threat generation is looking nice.
>>582023052>Why does this political streamer have no viewers streaming himself grinding in a 20 year old video game instead of when he has peak viewers fear mongering the news and talking about shooting third worlders all day for views?????
>>582023141That's weird honestly.
>>582023052>>582023194>>582023243asmon isn't even live you retards. he was at 50k viewers today which is 30k over his typical number.
>>582022939>we're removing elemental's burst to make it more efficient and shieet>dead last in dps
>>582023310see>>582023194
I see… the real endgame was turning ALL of us into blue elves
>>582023316just get 900 spell power bro. it gets good then
>>582023052the tranny agenda must be maintained
>>582023217Again I can give you an answer and you'll just say>Oh they can make it easierIt's pointlessLike I don't usually take alchemy as a profession because my friend always takes it and I don't like using a profession slot on it.>Oh they can just change the system and give you more professions or make it so that people on friends lists can tradeAnd if he quits playing and I still want to I can buy the pots with gold from the professions I have>Well they can give you all the professions :))))))Like why even play an MMO???? Just go play OSRS or wherever the fuck you came from.
PSA to Rogues that they will be hot garbage in pvp at 60.hunters get>no wind up on auto shot so you can basically stutter step without actually stopping >traps dont share cooldown>traps can be used in combat>pets get retail abilities like disarm>aimed shot made baselineDruids get>natures grasp made baseline>can use items/racials in animal form>omen of clarity made baseline>thorns scales with spellpower (its OP as FUCK right now)>can root / travel form indoors>keep in mind with more people playing druid it will mean more people using faeri fire, a spell that keeps you from even going into stealth for 1 min, and the spell has no cast time or cooldown (major anti rogue spell in pvp)Paladins get>consecrate made baseline>damage brought up to compete with pures>they keep their defensive kit and utility>holy shock spec catered to by lead dev who plays it, gives holy +18% hit chance for 3 talent points.Warlocks get>soul link / siphon life spec >or sacrifice 1 demon while still having one outPriests get>penance>more racials. fear ward and devouring plague made baseline.>30 yard mindflayRogues get:>mutiliate for assassination spec>hemo is made viable to use with daggers (lol)>sap without breaking stealth is made baseline>backstab nerfed in PvP by reducing base damage, made into pve ability (lol)>still need 12 points into combat for sprint to break roots, 14 points for sprint not to be a 5 min cooldown.>crit bonus damage nerfed for abilities (thats double damage nerf for backstab)>imp kidney no longer affects ally damage>dual wield talent nerfed by 50% (more of a pve thing but while im complaining there you go)power creep not even close to adding up. shamans i dont have room to talk about but good lord.etc
>>582023194many are saying this
>>582022939>warlocks need 200 spellpower to break even with eraLockbros is it over?
>>582021662Probably like 2028ishEither with a new island zone or maybe the southernmost point in EK in pic relatedKalimdor of course would make more thematic sense cause of Chen in WC3 and stuff, but there isn't really a spot that would work unless its just completely brand new like the Riverglades
>>582022939claude, make a tier list for wow forever at endgame, make no mistakes
allegedly there's a big update on the 24th comingsurely aggrend will tune this shit and not add another retail qol to his favorite class
>>582022240i look like this btw
i wish i were my pink haired gnome
>>582022939>demonology badit literally never gets to be good in any version of wow man...
>>582020000They want casters to pogchamp when they get weapons just like melee.
I just found out I'm one of those people effected by the shadow having to be set to Low for the rays to appear. Was wondering why shit looked normal to me.It also seems to fuck with the fog.
>>582023052pretty much all the streamers ran out of ideas and started just doing what they did in 2019 but with deflated hype because it's just the same shit again also organized world pvp fun stuff is impossible because Aggrend and his retail crew got rid of servers retardedly
>>582023627I liked it in dragonflight and twwplayed like one month of midnight and unsubbed tho, they had to ruin it with their epic super talent shit
>>582023594hmm yeah about that
>>582019151>>582018536believe it or not this is literally the reason i stopped playing wow back in cataclysm. my two biggest annoyances, the ccp and furries.
>delete alliance characters>join horde check too check for boobanon>she isnt in it>no characters avaliable for restorationwhy live
>>582023476>ERM I WOULD ANSWER YOUR QUESTION BUT INSTEAD I'LL JUST PRE EMPTIVELY REJECT IT You are so pathetic it's actually unreal lmao. You have literally Z E R O answer to THE most basic question that would instantly validate your position, because there isn't one, and you KNOW IT.>>Oh they can just change the system and give you more professions or make it so that people on friends lists can trade>And if he quits playing and I still want to I can buy the pots with gold from the professions I haveI like how you didn't even answer your own question you posed to yourself lmao. What is it you have to say about having more profession slots? You seem to have skipped that part. You know, the part I actually said and not the thing you made up yourself that you thought would be easier to refute?>Like why even play an MMO????Why give you 2 professions then? Do you even want to play an MMO??? Think of how much more you would have to trade if you only had 1 profession!!!Your IQ must be below room temp lmao.
>>582023627it's good in vvotlk (the only version that matters btw)
>>582023517>pets get retail abilities like disarmReminds me. Has anyone been making a new petopia for Forever hunter pets?
>>582014307Orcs.
>>582023561does this mean spriests are going to be the god kings of pvp?
>>582023702AGGREEEEEEEEEND NOOOOT AGAAAAIN
>>582023824YesPriests are so fucking broken at 60 you have no idea
if youre levle 20 what do you do now
>>582023594they really shouldnt be doing any balancing for a beta at lvl 20-30
>>582023561It's frustrates me that whoever made this chart didn't do the holy dps spells for priest since that may actually be a real spec now.
AGREEEEEEEEND WHERE IS MY COOOOOODE
>>582023741the dream is dead
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what if the first expansion is traveling back in time to when Jay'Lor corrupted Sargeras and saving Sargy from corruption and killing Jay
>>582023901Erp
are there any streamers actually appropriately critical of this game? its funny listening to them discuss and say "well i wouldnt have done x, BUT ITS NO BIG DEAL (please please watch me stream)"example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c4z_ETxjH8
>>582023965aijeet
>>582023824Maybe. They have no ways to escape stuns, slows and snares. Lots of classes got more of each, and there are even more counters to fear now. I think they will be undesirable in raids because they don't really bring anything of value that a holy/disc doesn't already have. In pvp I think they will be good 1v1, but mid in bgs.
>>582023517>hybrids untaxed and give a bunch if welfare buffs for good measure gueranteeing everyone will play one LOL LMAO this is retail
>>582022939>simming level 60 specs when we only have access to level 20 gearso this is the power of retail babs...
>>582024027>people have nuanced takes>this confuses the autist
Anyone got more pics like this? Asking for myself.
>>582023965>aislop promo image>aislop promo textSAAAAAAAAAAAAAR
I'm gonna play a skeleton warrior and a cow hunter
>>582023757>What is it you have to say about having more profession slots?It means you have to make choices on what you want to level and how you want to level it early on while also being dependent on the people you play with. You know, the social aspects of the MMORPG?Unlike Runescape where you just mindlessly do everything and jumping around to things that let you do other things faster infinitely while ignoring the people around you because it's just a Cookie Clicker skin that pretends to be an MMO so that you can type "fsh lvls?" to all the people also clicking a puddle every 30s around you. Again just go play that game.
Imagine if this company didn't suck so much shit and you could play as a druid of the talon or a druid of the claw class that were more specialized than the general druid or could actually run around as a tauren or orc that actually looked like the cinematic
>>582024221why should a class nobody plays get attention
>>582024105keked so hard at "incompetent gm being led around by his scheming eunuchs" that shit was literally every wow guild i have ever been in
>>582024172>It means you have to make choices on what you want to level and how you want to level itSo why not cut professions to only one then? Wouldn't that push you to trade that much more? That's what you like isn't it? So why have any more than 1? Why have secondary skills? They should also be professions competing for your 1 profession slot?Wouldn't this be your ideal game, where you have to trade with other people all the time to do anything?
>>582024027Even streamerfags all agree the skelves was a retarded decision.
>>582024105nigga I'm just here for legendariesthe peasants can squabble over purples
>>582023965>think it's another shitpost pic to makc fun of pserv>it's an actual official promo by pserv
>>582024274did the bot break again
>>582023965>savage banterI'm in
>>582023965Gnoll futa
it's called forever because this will kill classic (forever)
>>582016797God i hope so, then I can actually fucking play the game without his fanbase clogging up the server
>>582024308Now that's being hyperbolic. Why not zero professions????Three would probably be ideal with one forced as a gathering profession since they are mostly for leveling money and dropped when you get enough to full level a profession or just having gathering alts but two is fine.
>>582024542The whole reason Forever was even created was from their struggles to keep people playing both classic or retail long term.
>>582024105>learned that people are shit from wow, when i went to seek employment and it was just like this everywhere.it's honestly amazing how super intelligent people live with this shit every day and still have motivation.
>>582023965OMG LE SOVL !!!!!
>>582024609there will never again be a classic fresh as popular as even 2024 annithis is the last hurrah
>>582024587>Three would probably be idealWhy would it be ideal? Wouldn't that reduce the amount of trading you would have to engage in and make your choice of what to level early on easier?
>>582024670I just explained it in the same post, l2r.
>wow forever hasnt even been out for a week and its already deadgrim
>>582024079>half the specs aren't completely worthless>"omg guiiize it's retail!!!
Genuinely thinking of reinstalling D2R and playing a Holy Bolt Paladin
>>582024221id cum in my pants
>>582024609>do nothing about bots and gold buying>2 months in the economy is in shambles>nobody wants to playlike fucking clockworkgod forbid they pay some chuds minimum wage to be gms
>>582024609retoilets will never understand that people enjoy playing and leveling in a world with large amounts of people, they think we're crazy for asking for resets to be able to do it again, because they think raidlogging and arena is the best things the game has to offer lol or maybe they do know and that's why they spend so much time trying to bastardize the most popular version of the game we want to play lol either way it's probably going to end up with game dying and shutting down for good
do you guys really think this version of wow would be as popular if they didnt include blood elves/high elves at launch you're out of your mind, that race was like a third of all wow players at one pointstop being a purist
>>582024754You didn't though, you just asserted it without confronting my point whatsoever. Just like every other post you have made so far, you have no point, you simply reflexively defend the game you played since you were 9 years old because you played it at 9 years old. Because you are stupid, and have zero capacity for thinking critically.
skelves would have been welcome if they looked more like nightelves than blood elves
>>582024757>shaman and paladin and druid in vanilla was completely worthless you hybrid niggers are such lying scum
skyborne DH are gonna be so sick and wickedimagine double jumping into an air glidebadass
>>582022172honest question, why does any lock give a fuck about this tiny amount of healing in a 3minute fight? is that like 1 lifetap? are there no healers? the only time this shit will be valuable is when planets align so it procs just before i might have died and im not dotted
>>582024901(you)
>>582024901They are a forced inclusion so the asians will play.
>>582024921>specs=/=classes
>Taurens currently the only race with 4 classes>An'she lore backported and mentioned by multiple new NPC's>no priests at the very leastWhy
>posting on cooldownhow much are they getting paid?
>>582024880but even retail players love new patches and expansion launches when areas are full. why are you acting like every mmo player doesn't care about that?
>>582024849Imagine being a WoW detective, like a retarded autism version of the untouchables.....
>>582024901i think most people would be ok with it and have taken it positively, they just hate how they did it with the blue elvesblizzard just scored an own goal to appease trannies and that's what people hate
Any safe place to farm iron?
>>582025037They already confirmed more class/race combos will come in future updates. They gotta save all those cata combos to add as "content" for later.
trying to build a guild on beta is impossible
>>582025160pve serverwhy would you roll on a pvp server if you did not wish to engage in pvp?
>>582025040who are you talking to?
>>582024906You have no capacity to think beyond what you're trying to rail road. I just said three would be ideal because of game play mechanics.Having all the crafters massively devalues the worth of crafting CDs instead of the ones that you need like enchanted thorium bars.>B-but they should rework that too so that it doesn't take a full month of mooncloth CDs to make a robe Yeah they should also just give me every item in the game for logging in because I don't want to play an MMO.
he is BACK
>>582024901They are already in retail dude, you can just play them there. I don't see the problem.
>>582025089I imagine it's more like 40k but with keyboards
rogues are so fucking finished dudeif they dont get a major buff somehow they will be worst class
>>582024901that may be, but no part of the belf inclusion clause also stipulated that they must be a neutral racemetzen raped the factions for no reason
>>582025196I mean the level 30+ mobs bozo
>>582025032semantics, you quoted my reference to hybrid classes
>>582025216>You have no capacity to think beyond what you're trying to rail road.Aka you are trying to dodge my question and failing, because you're stupid.>I just said three would be ideal because of game play mechanics.What you didn't say was an answer to my question, because you are stupid.>Having all the crafters massively devalues the worth of crafting CDs instead of the ones that you need like enchanted thorium bars.So then why would 3 be ideal? Why would 2? Wouldn't only having 1 profession make crafting CDs even more valuable then? Isn't that what you want?>Yeah they should also just give me every item in the game for logging in because I don't want to play an MMO.More retarded hyperbole lmao, it's all that can be expected from someone of such profoundly low IQ like you I suppose.Don't worry, I already know you will just resort to another even more pathetic dodge of these questions because you have no answers for them, and you know it.
>>582023725Lil fragile, no?
>>582025086I don't care about retail or it's playersI don't consider them human beings I don't even consider what they're playing to be in the same franchiseI'd argue they really don't care about those things, because we have evidence of their actions in classic and we have streams of them playing retail where they conduct themselves in a way the is contrary to your statement and we have retail player population stats to prove itDoes anyone talk or care about what happens or happended once retail really took over the story lol no they don't, so saying retoilets care is a pretty big stretch
>Every wow content creator right now
>>582025165Thats what I assumed yeah, but I just know it wont be until like this time next year, lumped in with some other big update
>>582023741Welcome to beta.At least you didn't lose the character because you brought up the barber menu, which was the case in both TWW and Mid beta.
>>582025325what so bad about them ? I am like interested in HUNTER, PRIEST, ROUGE, MAGE.........but have not tied rogue or priest yet.....
>>582025435All the "hybrid" classes only have 1 functioning spec each, which happens to be a healing spec for all of them. Meaning they're not actually hybrid classes as they can only perform one role.
>>582025564>Every wow content creator right now
yeah I think I'm gonna be a night elf priestess of the moon (shadow)
>>582025453>Waaaaa you're not answering my retarded whiny questionI don't really care how much you shit your pants man but it really sounds like they're full and you should change them. You've been here for like 2 hrs shitting yourself over this while I'm just laughing at how mad you are with your 800 ad hominems and no argument to anything I say beyond>It's just a minor change they can make for it to not be like that!!!!!!>You're just so stupid because uhhh uhhh you hate change yeah that one!!!
>>582025531> because we have evidence of their actionsokay post it
>>582025564kek
>>582025685I see you didn't even attempt to dodge the question, just resorted to a classic word vomit tantrum instead lmao.Either way, I accept your concession. :)
>>582025636except for warrior, the hero class of vanilla
>>582025564based seared bite enjoyer
>>582025679Here is hoping you make a lot of Tauren men very happy.
I met my wife while playing forever
>>582025642I really, really, really like this image.
>>582025778But warrior is supposed to be good at everything!
>>582025757Typical third worlder response declaring yourself the winner as always. Nobody can expect any actual discussion in this place with people like this. Being constantly disingenuous when I've answered your question multiple times now.Your +1 izzat saar very good now your mother won't get raped in the street for one whole night.
vghhhh.... sovlll
>>582025936Can I be your wife as well?
Having now levelled every class to 20 here’s my comments on them>Paladin overtuned and overplayed but really fun and well put together now, undead paladins mog alliance, wolfbane sword is cool af with a sick proc>warriorVery close to vanilla but victory rush definitely feels good>hunterI did the mistake of levelling one as the skelf, DONT level a hunter in the skelf starter, mobs are faster than you, it takes FOREVER, otherwise they are OP as fuck now with the instant arrow so any melee is gonna get permacucked in PvP>ShamanStrong as ever 1-20, the itemisation from RFC/HoT sets you up to steamroll 15-20. This might be THE best pic for those of you that want to do your own thing and always have raid invites >Druid Thanks to dungeon XP Druid only sucks for 12 levels now instead of 20, they have some insane tricks with thorns and world PvP but i think this’ll get nerfed >Rogueabsolute dogshit>MageThe new scroll thing is really cool. You actually feel like a wizard in forever instead of just some sperglord clip farmer. I suspect these scrolls will have some INSANE flavour down the line like they do in D&D (think unique 1 charge spells, summons and unique item interactions (like maybe there’s a special set out there with okay stats BUT PLATE FOR MAGE)>warlock1-10 is crippled by the spell nerf, your imp literally does 2-3 dmg per Firebolt>PriestUnbeatable at 20 and possibly the strongest caster in Forevers tier 1
>>582025938Me too! Save it, its all yours my friend :)
>>582025989Is that Tifa.
>>582025989Cute!
>>582025946>Typical third worlder response declaring yourself the winner as always.Actually, I was in fact the winner because you repeatedly refused to answer my questions and even acknowledged it, because you had no answers for them. You see, in a debate, that means you lose. Which you did.Thanks for playing :)
>>582025705you want me to go find youtube videos of scarlet monestary cleave groups and that metayou want me to dig up all the information and dialigue about how retoilets race through expansions as fast as possible and that needs to be considered in how blizzard designs themyou're a cunt, do your own research, im not your personal army, nigger jeet shill, you can use your fingers to google like you search the archive sites when someone better than you uses an image on an imageboard that makes you feel inferior sitting there on your phone lol
>>582025564>every wow content creator right now
>>582025636you're being misleading because this isn't fucking retail where you morph entirely into a spec, each hybrid "spec" infact takes significant portions of multiple spec trees which is why you need to speak in terms of classes and not specs, literally every single class in vanilla plays with ideal muti-tree talent setups like that so your aguemnt is incredibly misleading
>>582026074>I need to declare myself the winner>AGAINlol, you lose and are laughed at as soon as you do that in the first world buddy.
All specs for all classes should be equally viable at their roles. Having multiple roles available to a class through different specs should obviously not count against any individual spec because you can't play two specs at the same time. You would have to be stupid to think that it should.I play a warrior btw. If being a hybrid is supposed to count against your dps then warriors should lose dps due to their ability to tank.
when are they adding body type 3
>>582024776redpill me on this
Invite to Asmon Layer
>>582025989she mogs the fuck out of every "SD" female human.Anyone who says the HD models are worse is a liar. there's a few that don't look great but a large majority of them are clear improvements. It's a complete waste of time and resources to integrate SD character models into forever.
>>582026145Shaman does not have a functioning DPS spec.Druid does not have a functioning DPS or tank spec.Paladin does not have a functioning DPS or tank spec. Priest does not have a functioning DPS spec. Doesn't matter how many points you put in the trees, you will not be able to play the above mentioned roles with any success. Those classes can only heal. Nothing more. They are not hybrids.
>>582026187Hybrid classes are those that can heal and dps.Tanking is so in demand that classes that can tank should outperform pure dps classes.
>>582025564they are way worse than the based diabetes burger man..............
>>582026430>Hybrid classes are those that can heal and dps.It's great that you say that because you immediately annihilate your credibility and everyone can safely ignore your opinion.
Invite to Assumi layer
so this is that fog they been tellin' me about ...
>>582026392One person's opinion.
>>582026430you are a hybrid too, a faggot and a liar
can I still have weakauras to tell me when I don't have certain buffs up? e.g. food buff?
What's the secret sign for when we see eachother on the pvp server
>>582026392>paladin does not have a tank spechttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgpLDki8RWA
does balance druid get cat form or nowanna know if they can stealth
>>582026598Brojob
>>582026513the mist is a good movie
>>582026598the narwhal bacons at midnight
>11 more days of level 20
>>582026657https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCsqQgVV7IoI guess rogue is a tank now. Approximately how much dps should they lose from this?
>>582026670Just by being a druid, you will naturally get quests to unlock + obtain Bear Form and Cat Form. Of the current versions of Druid's specs/talents, only Boomkin Form requires talent points to obtain, while Feral tree provides several boosts and buffs to Bear/Cat Forms.
>>582026657Oh cool so you only need to have the very best gear available in the game to be able to tanke a single boss.Neat.
>>582026597Yes people have made weakuara addons under the new api restrictions. I don't know which ones have working versions on Forever right now though.
Be honest how many of you joined Asmon in Olympus
>>582026392>Druid does not have a functioning DPS or tank specBear tank looks amazing right now though.
>>582026761and with that im guessing they get prowl baseline?so balance can be in stealth in pvp?
>>582026797nope. I was invited to an Olympus Guild but I declined.
>>582026392Why does Shaman need a competitive dps spec it's a hybrid? Why do hybrids suddenly need to have multiple viable pve specs when all pures just take a single dps spec to pve? Hybrids get a pve and pvp spec and non-hybrids get the same. There was nothing wrong with that.
>I'M NOT HITTING HUNDREDS OF DAMAGE LIKE OTHER CLASSES INSTANTLY THIS CLASS HAS NO DPS SPECIt's really amazing seeing people here acting like only numbers make a DPS spec
>>582026227Oh I dunno I just wanted to try it out, never did Holy Bolt before
>>582026865What else makes a dps spec? the friends we made along the way? How come this standard does not apply to warriors? Why are they the only ones that only numbers make their dps spec?
>>582026770>needs the best gearwrong90% of his threat was generated by blessing of kings, which means he can itemize entirely for defence using items from bwl and mc if he wanted
>>582026382Sorry, just don't see it as in the spirit of classic. I am gonna turn off your transmogs as well.
>>582026862>Why does Shaman need a competitive dps spec it's a hybrid?Why should it only be able to heal?Why should warrior be able to tank AND dps?
>>582026865if you are not topping the dps meters you are wasting your time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sn7TEsVQaPc&t=260sIgnore everything about this video, I'm only posting it because I finally found some form of video proof that the servers are way less fucked this time around when it comes to large wpvpAnd I like what I'm seeingSo where the fuck are the SoD events? We better get the STV blood moon if NOTHING else.
every single spec is viable and worth bringing to a raid in TBC.
>>582026392dude shaman buffs the damage of a melee group by 20-30% with windfury totem alone.......
>>582026865It's more amazing to see people evaluate classes based off of having 11 talent points and an extremely limited pool of items with no idea about how gear at 60 will look.It's not like you don't already have almost 200 spell power at level 20.Also just knee jerk reactionaries seeing a big reduction and going WOAH without thinking about how you can cast spells for more than 20 seconds without being OOM and maybe they also had to balance around that.
>got raped by a mage>ice lances hit for 150
>make PvP alliance >people taking in general about their hormone therapy>make Horde>somebody gets called a tranny>another gets triggered >everyone tells the tranny to kill themselvesI think I want to be a horde. They like taking shit about everything though which can get a little annoying.
>>582027064having some bullshit token debuff should not be the basis of inclusion for a spec. All specs should be competitive at their roles.
People need to sit back and wait for people to actually get to 60 first instead of extrapolating. Wait for the pvp kill comps.
>>582027135>having some bullshit token debuff should not be the basis of inclusion for a specwhy not?
Can someone redpill me on this and why some spells need so much more to meet their classic strength while stuff like shadow priest needs a fraction of SP to reach it.
>>582027110
>>582027062yeh the game only fucks itself when you enter a major city and tanks your fps 90% until you relog
>>582027135you would have to make all specs similar to achieve that
>>582027174If that's acceptable, why don't we give warriors some token debuff and nerf their damage to compensate?
>>582027163>it's about le journey>just wait until you hit 60
>>582027252they do have that, it's called arms spec.
>>582027175hastily done spell scaling rework by the devs
>>582027163you do realise that once people are hitting 60 the games popularity will just instantly vanish, right? the only saving grace is going to be the hardcore release
>>582026431>It's the same but different*checks teleprompter*>It actually looks like how I remember it as a kid*opens DM from Blizzard*>No I'm not playing GTA6*reads text from editor*>I can't get over how good the water looks
>>582027217It's like 40% for me but yeah I don't get why it does that, especially when it can do this somehow.
>>582027219So what, you're saying it's impossible to balance and one spec will always be warrior tier OP? Ok fine, let's nerf warriors and buff some other class to be the top dog. That would be fine because that's just how the game is right?>>582027290I'm talking about fury, let's give them a debuff and nerf their damage to compensate. Why not right?
>>582026952tanks are the only special case because the game has to have them in raids, it's not that big of a deal because nobody tanks anyway you chose a hybrid so you should be prepared to support the group hybrid is categorically a support
>>582027175the only reasonable pill to this data is that they have not balanced any of this shit and hopefully will before releaseI did read an interesting cope that this is part of a masterplan to keep lvl20 balance dogshit while they have all high level SP coeff changed and well tuned, believable if you're mentally insane
>>582027332its a bug in retail and has been for years apparently, unfixable by blizzard
>>582027290thats the perfect example how it should be done>fury out dps arms>but if you have a physical dmg heavy raid comp the debuff arms brings will make it better than another fury warrior
>>582027175Priest needs a rework.
>>582027135oh look its the balance retards again, every spec must do the same
>>582027175You get a lot of spell power from gear now.Spriest fucking sucked.Mages fire spec in actual classic is good but it's kind of an exploit that they left in(You snapshot pyroblast damage with a talent and a few fireballs and hold it the whole fight spamming scorch.)Warlocks talents in og were all terrible they got huge buffs having actual capstone talents.Druid I'm not sure about.Ele Shaman had insane burst but no sustain. They gave them sustain and reduced costs but had to nerf them so they're not just insane aoe machines.Chain lightning hit for like 500 base which is absurd in classic classic for aoe but cost a billion mana so you got to cast it like 2-3 times. Now it hits for 200 but you can spam it.
>>582027175The devs added more spellpower gear to the game, especially at low levels, so gear upgrades felt real for casters. This is a good thing.However to prevent casters from being hilariously overpowered they had to lower the base damage on all their spells. They ended up doing a sloppy job at balancing the reduced base damage vs the new better sp scaling. So some specs ended up needing a FUCKLOAD of sp just to break even with the base damage their spells had in classic.
did this happen to anyone else :3
>>582027487If balance is so bad then you won't have a problem if warriors get nerfed and some other class gets buffed to their position right?
with all this spellpower when does wanding lose to mind flay
>>582027358>Why not right?because warriors already have that in arms spec. one is pure damage, one is less damage but overall more damage in what it brings to the raid. it's a trade off, and you have to make that decision with your raid group.
if they do buffs and nerfs, balance will be insane for pvp>stealth caster>root>can shift cc off?
>>582026841wow you're so cool, I wish I could be cool like you and get a girlfriend and be cool, can I get your autograph, cool guy?
>>582027523post thighs!
>>582027487you lostraids are going to be a reflection of class popularity now, not 27 warriors
>>582027556Right, a decision of having 20 fury warriors and 1 and only 1 arms warrior.This is shit design and you know it, you just want an in built advantage for your preferred class because you want to be on top but know you couldn't do it without an unfair advantage.
>>582027674Go play moppy or retail if you want to be a superhero.
>>582027602here's my thighs covered in yummy white sauce I made myself :3
warriors already suck in forever lol if you roll one
>>582027760I accept your concession.
ZAMN. So many people in one zone tagging all these mobs. But it isn't as simple as getting a group together because we need objects from the corpses. FFA it is then for this quest.
>>582027568Same problem they had in SoD with boomkins nuking you from orbit and then running away at 60+ meters just to do it again.Druid at low levels is just fucked up in PvP because you don't get a lot of tools to deal with them yet.
>>582027674or how about 1 arms, 1 enh shaman, 1 ret pally, 1 fury warrior, and 1 combat rogue. the point is, every spec is viable and brings something to the raid group without just making them all the same shit.
>>582027069But that is some else's damage! Anon has to have big number on their dps meter or else everything is ruined forever.
>>582027824So we have 4 specs brought along for some bullshit token debuff that only further serves to boost the damage of the fury warrior even higher. Somehow, it's not homogenization "everything the same" when 80% of the group has functionally the same role, it ONLY becomes a problem when specifically the warrior is not always and forever the undisputed highest dps class.Hmmmmm, funny how that works isn't it?
>>582027843DPS meter should add the dps made by WF totem to the shamans dps desu.
Why is my game so dark? Can't even see my own character
>>582023965Red Empire?
>>582027793I'm genuinely shocked they didn't change this since they are so concerned with the social aspect of the game. People want to avoid groups for item quests because you'd have to fight over loot regardless.
>>582023965I thought it was TOS to stream wow pservers
>>582026080you could have just said you were lying.later sperg
>>582027310Legacy will keep people chasing for a while.
>>582026837Correct, prowl/stealth is naturally learned just by leveling and also does not require any talents (some early feral tree talent points can go into boosting Stealth Effectiveness, but this is just an enhancing choice).Boomkins stealthing up to unsuspecting victims in AB and Typhoon'ing them off cliffs is a 'treasured' memory.
>>582027967>that only further serves to boost the damage of the fury warriorno, they buff everyone in the party. have you ever even played TBC? it's not vanilla, fury warriors are not 100% better than every other spec. funny you didn't mention anything about the combat rogue who also does not bring shit to the party.
paladins should get shadowstepfatgrend make it happen
I play a warrior and I hope they nerf fury into the fucking ground specifically to spite these dishonest shitheels who want an entire team of people to exist only to make their dps higher.
>>582027992have you tried being white?
>>582027781yum
>>582027992Most games actually use different point light intensity for day and night.During day, it's toned down so it doesn't add to the bright daylight, and during night, it's increased so it actually lights the area.How these VFX pros did not see it is a mystery to me desu.
>>582025460given the direction the game went in validating that decision i feel i was observant.
>>582027992noshoes haven't invented street lights yet
>>582028098that has to be the most retarded thing said in this general, everobviously it should be called lightstep
>>582028112yeah i play arms too.
>keep trying to come up with a lore friendly name for a female night elf priest>all of them somehow sound like stripper nameshow the fuck do you do this. why are fantasy names so similar to strippers.
Where are the world PvP events?
they should add eredar as a neutral race so my gf can erp enslaving me as a warlock and I try to resist
>>582026865Numbers are all that matter in a 'bring the player not the class' design space.
>>582028554on twitch tv dot com
>>582028554tbc added them and they were the worst thing ever
>>582028628And that's a good thing.
>>582028554>Giving a shit about vanilla wow pvpYou remember silithus? Don't you?>>582028642they were in vanilla
>>582028554>eventswpvp happens everywhere all the time when people actually need to be in contested zones
>>582028642there's towers in EPL and the lolsand event in silithus
>>582028370I was trying to figure out a name for my nelf last night as wellI went through every single night elf in every warcraft game, listed the parts of their last names that I liked and then picked two that sounded the best with the first name I wanted to use
>>582028554Aggrend needs to turn on SoD's Ashenvale thing for the beta. Hell it would STILL be relevant at 30.
>>582023965>twitch integrationyikes
fixed the jitter I was having. It turned out my OBS profile was horrible. like 3 capture sources, plus the preview. Disabled the preview and made a scene with only one window capture. Now it is smooth.
Guys we need to do something about the Roach King’s army. Remember, he’s one of the reason gas is so high right now. Roll Horde.
why are there so many fucking shamans?
>>582028921horde are good girls who know their place
>>582028370>caster or hybrid characterIncorporate something associated with birds or the stars/moon>melee characterIncorporate something involving blades or darkness/the night
>>582028554dude you are missing out
>they've detected microplastics on Zephras Isle
Help me pick two different classes to play on release. I think I'm between balance druid, shadow priest, and enhance shaman/ele, paladin
>>582029049How does this addon even work?
>>582029147Which faction?
>>582027798oh this was how it went in sod? doesnt surprise me stealth is a mega advantage and so is range in general so that makes sense
>>582029198horde, one character will be played with 4 other frens, the other is my solo character
>>582029049what the fuck is this shit
>>582029176it activates different spots in the world to be fought over by the factions and which ever team controls it once the timer ends controls it and then a new area becomes active and the factions then fight over that areaits basically just directing people who have it to go to the same place at the same time to world pvpof course it then ranks which faction is doing better and who are the best pvpers
>>582029147do yourself a favor and dont play hybrid classes
>>582029247Ya they had some runes that increased range and star surge.Hunter was also OP but that was like scorpid memes for a while because its poison wasn't meant to scale the way it did with the runes so it was just ticking for insane numbers.
>>582029440balance i think was bad in classic because of mana cost so if its at all good, itll be fucking crazy in pvpin retail pvp every season its dominated by sub and balance, theyre very good for bg content
>>582029264>friendsFrom my experience playing SoD with friends, answer is easily Balance Druid. you don't compete for drops all too often, get to siphon up random leather and cloth gear for alt builds, and you have nice utility.>soloPaladin
>>582029316
I've made my decision. I will not be playing World of Warcraft Forever.
im a lvel 8 druid and my auto attacks do more than my rank 2 wrath. why the fuck did they slash damage on some spells so hard
Are the servers down? Im getting No realms are currently availableAlso this option is new
>>582029545How active is this addon in Retail? I actually really loved to do big dumb Retail pvp fights before I was fucked over by sharting one too many times. I wonder if Cryptid still even plays.
Which gathering jobs bring in the most cash if I just want to gather and sell?
>>582028642tbc also added flying which made world pvp cancer
>>582024105
>>582029379So it just counts kills and communicates with each other as long as they have the addon? Because an addon cannot spawn a capturable flag in the open world.I'm just wondering how are they preventing misuse or exploits since all addons are open source and you can basically do whatever the fuck you want with them, incuding spoofing.Kinda like how BigWigs can act like DBM if your raid lead is being autistic about it.So you could have enough cheating cunts using some "modified" version of the addon to fuck it all up is my point.
>>58202964767 xDDD hidden references just like vanilla
>talk to first ex gf>she is down to fly me out 9 days after launch>is becoming increasingly dominate>ignores me sexually but wants me to send videos of me punching my cock>says she doesnt view me as dominant this is gonna cut into my leveling time big time
>>582029508Yeah it's problem was always being OOM because even shifting just cost too much mana. Power shifting out of CC was a huge cost so you'd just play Feral and have mana to heal yourself and shift instead of relying on it mana to do damage.Balance, just like most casters, was good in PvP just like you said it went OOM incredibly fast. They still did in SoD they just star surged you instead since it cost like no mana.
>>582028821>>582028370>every one of my RP characters is a cousin of the faction leader.>will never have any last name issues
>>582029814embrace celibacy achieve happiness
>>582029042im on alliance
>>582029942well in that case kill yourself
>>582029898>that name is already taken>that last name is restricted>"noo but I wanted to be Arthur Menethil!"
>>582029883i kinda wanna roll the dice and main it and just fucking hope its good would be very fun if its fixed what are you playing anon>>582029915ive never had a dynamic like this so its kinda hot but wanting to punch my own cock is a big what the fuckhopefully im 60 by then
>>582029714Second frame the two guys should be kissing and jerking each other
*taps sign*
Why can't Alliance into PvP?
>>582029973>was in a comfy 0 lag ironforge>this pops up>hit refresh>suddenly 500 negroids around me and my fps tanks to 20Sick
>>582030134quality of stock is too low
>>582030014My name is John Menethil and I own the deed to the Balnir Farmstead.One day it will be mine again.
>>582028112isn't fury warrior the one that makes rogue dps higher?
>finish dinner>realms are downI'm going to go shower and they better be up by then.
>>5820301322 more weeks
forsaken kingdom is more nostalgic and fun than wow forever.
>>582030132Classic andies getting scammed again
>>582027367>you chose a hybrid so you should be prepared to support the group hybrid is categorically a supportNah, I don't think I will. I'll badger Blizzard until they improve "hybrid" dps :)
>>582030197my name is sneed, owner of sneed's feed and seed (formerly known as chuck's). The Chuck bit is funny because it implies that it used to be called Chuck's fuck and suck.
>>582029647yes
>>582025636i leveled elemental shaman and was competitive dps in 5 mans. Ele sham are also top tier PvP spec. Maybe you are just shit? or maybe you never even played and are just talking out of your ass?
>>582030052Warlock on launchI'm not that interested in PvP though.
>>582030492>competitive dps in 5 manslmfao no one cares about fucking 5 mans. raid dps is all that matters.
>>582030492>elemental shaman and was competitive dps in 5 mans. Ele sham are also top tier PvP specNot anymore lol
>twitter has united to basically rape the shit out of retoilets and spit in their face kek
He is completely right.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ex7jjjjnLkgThis is an issue whether you're willing to admit it or not.And the worst part is I already think it's too late unlike him, I don't see them taking out and redoing the art in a more faithful to classic style.What this tells us is that every new creature/item that is added will just be retail art style, which completely clashes with the style that they claimed is timeless (which it is) and that they supposedly wanted to preserve.The environmental art team is doing an absolutely amazing job, the new LOCATIONS look like they could have released with retail. No question about it.The issue is the creatures and items. If this is something that won't be resolved quickly, it never will be resolved. They'll just push ahead with it and it will kill them game. It just will.
>>582030470Is Sneed the first or last name?
>>582030132Nobody is forcing you to stop playing classic era?
>>582029883>>582029508balance was already good in PvP in classic, you hard countered mages and could kite melee endlessly.
>>582030648Buy and ad and seethe more
>>582030762kek, nice work
>>582030642>the only way to have fun in this game is if you're unemployed like me
>>582030589Nta but raid dps doesn't matter at all. All the matters is leveling, wpvp while leveling and 5 mans while leveling. Raiding is just a mini game to collect gold stars.
Is there any way to swap your characters over from PvE to PvP and vice versa? I regret not rolling PvP from the start but i don’t wanna re-lvl
>realm downgg friggin ez.....
>>582030762you know rolling a female toon is fine but if you use that excuse or feel the need to even come up with an excuse then yes you are probably a faggot
>>582030762>grown ass men playing with kids toysThey're all fags is the bottom line here?
>>582030762>low effort AI shitpost>not a high effort AI shitpostsoulless
>>582030642this is mental illness, i have tried to help they/them but failed ong
>>582030821I mean if you play on a pserver that gets shut down before you hit 60 anyway, sure. But that's not what Forever is.
>>582030642but with all my new blue gear those elites aint so tough after allas for dungeons? i queue up as tank or heals and gets invites instantly.
>>582030847No retard.
>>582030857in my guild, no female characters will be allowed. Women and troons of course will be banned too.
>>582030648>alliance have shaman>horde have paladin>hybrid tax removed>uhmmm ackshually, this model doesnt really look like something that would have come out 40 years ago.yeah thats because this is a halfway between classic and retail, they marketed it as classic+ to bait nostalgia, but its just as much retail-.
>>582030885>High effort AI shitpost That's a contradiction in terms thrice over
>>582030967I can respect that just as much.
>>582030762>he has a calendar with naked dudes in his garage
so apparently karazhan has an open, y et gated portal working lolnext raid is kara
>>582022464>fury/protretard god did not read talents again
Hunners now scaleWe top 3 dps pvp and pve
>>582031213>I FOUND A *NEW CLASS*?!?!?!>click video like a retard>speculative jibber jabber because some random ass blue weapon exists linked to deciphering this shit is so insufferable never click these fucking videos ever
>>582031172better than running molten core for the billionth time
>>582031409have fun melee weaving
does range still feel better in wow forever like it does in classic?melee feels bad in classic for me idk why
>>582014745If you play a female toon and is a dude.
>>582031427they forgot damage can break frost nova
It's been a while, what are the go to sites for information these days?Wowhead looks like it has become complete garbage.Is icy-veins still trustworthy or do they also just ai generate everything?
>>582031716hyjal.cc for now, its simple
>>582030648>blizz literally cannot do anything right>everWhat the fuck is wrong with them.
>>582026187unless every class is the exact same some of them will be better than others simple as
>>582031786looks good thanks anon
>>582017731I think they do, mercans are weird like that.If it's not jesus its trump or marx, too many years with a dual party system will do that to motherfuckers.
>Try to force myself to play mage>I just cannot stand itBros, I'm so frustrated. I hate mage for some reason.
>>582031878Insisting on perfect equivalence is obviously an absurd standard that serves no purpose other than giving you and easy excuse to reject the argument. All specs should be +/- a few percent of each other in their role on a generic fight. There is quite literally no reason to be against this other than being a cunt that always has to play an objectively superior class.
>>582031979that is cool there are many other classes to play
>>582032039>There is quite literally no reason to be against this other than being a cunt that always has to play an objectively superior class.You're talking to #nochanges warrior mains. What do you expect.
my lvl 3 priest with rank 1 smite does more damage than my level 8 druid with rank 2 wrath. BRAVO BLIZZARD
>>582032181my level 20 priest wands for 40 damage a second
>>582032039what if i have to play a shit ass frost mage because the entire raid is full of fire resistant/immune mobs?>>582032127i play hunter tho
>>582032181No seriously I just took priest for a spin for a quick second up to lvl 6 and it felt like I was playing the fucking retail tutorial island or some shit why are they so strong? Ive never touched them in classic before is this just normal?
>NO FUN ALLOWED CHUD! How DARE you name yourself something bad. JUST BE A GOOD PERSON! Your 60 shekel pass has been REVOKED! Chuds will be banned until morale improves!
>>582032181>It's a beta! They'll fix it!!>this is what betas are for!!Did they even test this shit. Do they even give half of a fuck.
blizzard are goycattle niggers who are unable to do anything proper with these spell ratio and damage changes
>>582032181hybrid. tax.
>>582032289>i play hunter thoOh I'm sorry, didn't realize you are retarded.
>>582032181Because you are a healer or a furry.
>>582032181to be honest I'm pretty sure a single priest could beat every single caster teaming up togetherthat shit is beyond broken
>>582032181boomkin is a containment spec, you are either a rogue cat, tank bear, or healer
>>582032416>nooo the warrior boogeyman is making fun of my pinkie dps>oh he is not a warrior>double down on being retardedbased disingenuous poster
>>582032527nigga the class starts with nothing but wrath its not like you can cast anything else in the starting area
Do we have a rough idea on how good each class/spec is?
>>582032543
>>582019378Trvke, only ever armchair retard game wannabe game designers prop that shit up
>>582032650thank you wowgpt
>>582032247tfw critting for 115 wand damahe every 1.8s
>>582032650this is libelous. we know the real tards are the ret ones
>>582032737Funny you should mention that...
is wow forever going to have the sod new zone?
>priest and mage are the undisputed king casters and it's not even closePlay priest or mage. Or go fuck yourself.
>>582032841I'm not gonna enter any soddy zones
>>582032869nobody wants to play warlock on alliance though but everybody wants you to curse the mobs for their parsiesnow you will also face like 60%+ of horde pop being undead aswell
>>582032869Warlock is fantastic in Forever.
poor mans skullflame shieldmithril shield spike +20 damagethorns +20 damage +spell power scalingits gamer time
>>582033056Stop making me want to tank.
>>582033056How is Thorns that calculated? Does it apply to the Druid or the person with the buff?
>>582033056>>582033143you will dress up and heal sissies
>>582033056Powercreep. You shouldn't get an item like that before lvl 60.
>>582033183its probably just base on people you buff it withbut paladins will have +sp gear
I was somewhat excited. I'm honestly getting blackpilled the more info that comes out.
>>582033247post hand, jeeta
I’m playing a male human Hunter and male human mage in forever
>>582024105>Half of its members would be happier in a hardcore guild, the other half would be happier in a casual guild.kek that does just about sum it up
>>582030642I always give priority dungeon invites to people who are nearby, why wouldn't I?>nooo you have to summon my lazy brown ass across the planet
>>582033209I googled it and the threat applies to the tank. So yeah. It's pretty fucking good.
>>582032629My chosen class and spec is weak and deserves buffs. Your chosen class is strong and deserves nerfs.
>>582033183It's based on who casts it. You can even snapshot it by putting on spell power gear, casting thorns, then putting on feral gear.>>582033318I'm huwite. I don't think blizzard is however..
>>582033346for me its male human warlock and male human paladin
>>582033419>My chosen class and spec is weak and deserves buffs. Your chosen class is strong and deserves nerfs.TRVKE
>>582023762>wrathbabby opinionsYou guys are always wrong about literally everything
>>582026213Right after you kill yourself sis UwU
>>582033465
>>582023627>minions now scale with your statsdemo will be good
>>582033419>Your chosen class is strong and deserves nerfs.>Elemental Shaman
>>582033549why would I do that when I have classic+ to play
>>582033672You will do 200 dps in raids and be grateful.
why should i level prot in forever?
>>582033735Maybe I'll just play a fucking Warlock. Stones are annoying but at least CoE is a global raid-wide effect for 200 mana and not a 3s cast for 700 mana to drop 4 party wide totems. Fuck it's hard not to doom about my spec.
>>582033753infinitely more sovlfvl than retail wowwe should be grateful
>>582033753SOVL
>>582033753>nelfs get forest bear>skelfs get a feather bearI don't see the problem desu. They come from the sky. It's literally in the name. Why wouldn't their animals have feathers?
>19 MD5s filtered.Nice
>>582033834>my specgame's not even out yet, retard.
>>582033921I think they look great, although the florescent purple palette is maybe a but much. Could stand to be a little more muted.
>>582033840>>582033920>>582033921
>>582033921the problem is more that it looks like neon purple plastic and sticks out like crazy compared to anything else in the game. imagine being a resident of westfall and seeing that shit running around
>>582033753neither of the two examples on the right are replacing the models to the left
>>582034024I played it for over a decade before I quit in Legion, nigger. It's always been my spec.
>>582034082Are you retarded?
thoughts on orc mage?
>>582030817Shouldn't employed people not play mmos or one by and for shitters like gw or ff?
>>582033056This but I'm also playing as a Shaman with Lightning Shield up.
>>582034253They definitely use cock magic.
>>582034186The point of the post is retarded. The classic art is still there>but new things look different!no shit
>>582026392>Druid does not have a functioning DPS or tank specWritten by a true retard. This is wrong by two accounts 1) If you want to take the classical route where "functioning" means "as optimal as possible", then druid doesn't even have a single functioning spec. They're only needed for motw and FF, and when you bring a druid for these purposes, you can actually bring a moonkin instead (and get crit aura on top of those). This is actually what many top tier guilds did. We could instead say that druid had a functioning ranged dps spec because of this. But if you don't want to do that, we can take the functioning specs away from locks (there for curses) and hunters (there to pull) 2) If you want to use an actual definition of functioning, that is, you can clear all the content with them, then you can easily add feral druids. t. 99 parsewhore bear in classic, no issues clearing all content 3) There is more to the game than raids You're honestly the worst type of retard. The kind that is hyperobsessed with the meta, while not actually being part of the playerbase that should be concerned with it. You hear that the best tryhards do things that way and attempt to emulate them without any critical thought as to why they do things the way they do, and what the differences between you and them cause to the meta.
>>582034284Seems like when the rest of the tank stuff for Shaman gets added they might be a 2H tank. Seems way cooler to me the having a third sword and board tank.
>>582034114then play something else for once, troglodyte
>>582034292what is cock magic
>>582034442I've played plenty of other classes. And was literally just saying I might do that. There's no need to be upset, anon-chan.
>>582034465roosters playing mtg
>>582034465That's when roosters play Magic the Gathering, stupid.
>>582033707Then no 3rd gender for you.
>>582033831>why should i level prot in forever?Because arms and fury are gay and söy. Actually I've heard prot goes pretty hard in Forever.
>>582034653body types aren't gender
>>582034749The very obviously are in WoW.
>>582033831Hover over shield slam
>>582034334No, he's right, you most certainly are retarded.>Umm the old artstyle is still there so it's okay if we just drop in completely conflicting assets from a game which changed its artstyle into the old game.You dumb fuck. That shit sticks out like a sore thumb. Do you thinking dropping Skyward Sword link into Ocarina of Time's world or Mario from Odyssey into Mario 64's world wouldn't look jarring as fuck?They aren't the same art style. Retail art style and the classic art style do not go together, they are completely clashing. They should not both be in the same game word, it is jarring and ugly as fuck.
Bluesky troons posting on X about Forever with their bluesky handle is so funny.It's also good to see Forever devs post on X outside of the bluesky bubble that the retail devs inhabit.
normalized rage and no extra rage from crits is pretty damn gay
>>582034874?warrior rage has been normalized since like 1.5
>>582020250i agree im thinking of rolling hunter but i really wanted to roll a lock fuckign retard devs fucking up casters
>>582034915Not in the way that it is in Forever.
what
>>582034874Do you get rage from hitting absorbs though?
>>582034970BM and Survival do look pretty fun. I've never really played a Hunter much. Could be fun.
>>582035030MOGSMOUNTSCHEEVOSCOLLECTABLES
>>582034349>as optimal as possibleNah, doesn't need to be optimal. Classes don't need to be equal. But vanilla balance is fucking trash and most specs are complete shit. They did a pretty decent job in SoD.
>>582035156>rogueits going to end up the same way in forever
Does Forever have the Incubus?
>>582034915No special attack weapon speed had gotten normalized. Not rage.>caster input
>>582020000Nobody checked these quads? This might be the worst general on 4snu
>>582035240yes.
>>582034915the way it is in forever is like cata but without any of the things that made the changes functional in cata. in forever it may as well just be red energy because you're pretty much just on a set timer until you can press buttons at all. the talent to increase max rage may as well do nothing too because you're never going to hit 130 rage the way it works currently
>>582020250Yes, please reroll and leave Warlocks to be lowkey OP, thank you
>>582035240Why wouldn't it, Classic has it as well ;)
Druid/warrior get rage through pws too
>>582027542wanding scales with sp
why is fishing so comfy bros
>>582035321>>582035415shan't be playing good bye
only some metal heads or viking larpers will play dwarf shaman. they have to open up skybelf shaman for alliance. dwarf is just fucking boring visually.
>>582020219>more knife earsBah..Give me Ogres, they shouldve been in at release.
>>582035476Tbh I have dwarf fatigue from retail, them being the consecutive meta race for 5th season in a row.
>servers downdid aggrend eat them
>>582031586Hunner melee weaving isnt available in forever anon
>>582035581>retail
>>582033419based
>>582035234The good thing about throwing #nochanges in the trash where it belongs is we get class balancing every now and then, just like in vanilla :)
>>582035620Your point?
>>582035156No sense trying to reason with #nochanges classicfags when they'll tell you there's absolutely nothing wrong with the top image.
>>582035476did they add some wildhammer customization for dwarves? i'm not playing the beta but they really should, people like viking looking shit
>>582035740there is no wildhammer customization which is a massive drive for people to play dwarf shaman
>>582035712Suffering any sort of negative consequences from playing retail is not only expected but justified and correct. You are a faggot.
>>582035281More than half of the people in these thread also browse reddit.
the weekly patch is just controller updates lmao
>>582035720>heh silly nochangers >*nerfs elemental shaman into the fucking ground*Epic.
>>582035740HD dwarves have that.>>582035810You sound like a joyless insufferable faggot, don't reply to my posts ever again.
>>582035720>No I wanna be able to heal myself, switch to tank, then be top dps>wtf warriors can PUT ON A SHIELD AND TANK THEY ARE PRACTICALLY HYBRID>hunters are underpowered they need a buff to their damage>go back to your pserv poorfag>#nochanges are literally braindeadall of these are the same person. A low-test possibly transvestite faggot who has never had to achieve anything in their lives by themselves.I think you should end it and hope for a better respawn.
>>582035907Except now shut can actually be fucking fixed, you brainlet. You'd rather live in a world where if a soec is terrible it's just forced to permanently remain that way.
>>582035971>uhmmm u don't like retailslop??>ur just joyless!Imagine being this much of a soiboy cuck.
On release i will play>undead female paladin>belf male hunner
