22 hour thread edition>Useful Linkshttps://www.wowhead.com/https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/https://warcraft.wiki.gg/https://bad-dragon.com/https://murlok.io/https://housing.wowdb.com/>/wowg/ guilds (cross-realm and cross-faction)>NA<GLOBOFOMO>>EU<Nerub Silkweaving Forum>Timewalking: >>581906560 (Cross-thread)
>>582016046you wish that was the current state of midnight
>current state of MidnightOG at least has hope that it was just a bad blip, not 5 bad expansions in a row
https://files.catbox.moe/cr0sav.webm
idk guys i only need a few more items on my alt and then i don't have to raid anymorefeeling pretty positive on pooshing nowjust jump in the tuesday night skip runs and be done in an hour its that ez
>delves stuck at level 3 until I finish the campaignthis is bullshitthese things are actually fun but I can’t properly do them until I help Arator work through his mental health issues
>>582016461all those people suck besides the australianpretty sure one of those is the guy that shits up the thread talking about dog dildos, his fat wife with a huge gash and his tiny peckergod i hate that mother fucker
>>582017134Literally who to all of them
>have to do m+ for crestsUeh...
>>582017134>his fat wife with a huge gash and his tiny peckeryeah that's nightkin
>>582017201trannyhomo-ers>>582017283thought sothanks for clearing that up
>>582016461Bad OP and I didn't get mentioned, baka.
>>582017225IF YOU WANT THE BEST GEAR YOU GOTTA DO THE CONTENTnot so funny now, is it? asshole.
>>582017283>>582017134sauce on the wife?
>>582016523so i hear you send hole...
I just resubbed to WoW for the first time in two or three years for Retail. Lads, I'm having fun. I'm having fun and you can't stop me
>>582017605Who the fuck are youWelcome back friend! :3
god i wish i were my vulpera
>>582017790I'm a nobody, I come in every few years, Try to make friends, and then unsub before I do. I'm here for the long haul though. I actually like the last two expansions, though I will admit that I'm still pretty early into Midnight so far.
rank wowgs buttholes
I only play for mountsmogscheetos and RP desu. I don't give a shit about the gear treadmill and haven't since late Cata.
Wow did they really nerf H Sszorak so the green puddles don't stay on the floor any more in Heroic? How piss easy do they need to make everything.
>>582017134you hate all the trannyhomo motherfuckers bro
>>582017536This one's for freehttps://files.catbox.moe/k6ejfv.png
>>582018252average wowger is a rank butthole yes
The "crest" system was a serious mistake and led to the the dire state of gearing in wow.
>>582018743Same with vaults and bonus rolls and catalysts. If you're not getting your gear off a boss or a profession it's not real and you are contributing to the problem.
>>582018252There's a pic of Trollanons butthole that gets me hard, and you get the added view of an alliance tattoo like the traitorous whore she is, so thats top tier.Second is memefox.
>>582018743>that feel when it's so half-assed it's still Fagthyr doing it in Dornogal and Silvermoon
>>582018743crests aren't the problem. It's the timegate they put on the crests. if anything it's just a RWF problem since those guys are able to get much better gear much faster than the average player.
>>582018869need to see that
if retails raid mechanics are so good why don't other games copy it to add skill to the game? Also the other part of skill you talk about is the + increased stat system which you can do in Classic by having the entire raid unequip half their gear or do it with just weapons for M+25 feel. I don't feel like the argument that Preach makes that Retail takes skill is even correct. It's more like Retail takes Over Gearing and doing the Flash Game like Mechanic where you are juggling water buckets to X zone while watching out for lethal damage from Z zonse and some times you have a buddy you have to pair up with or there's a random push bounce mechanic. XIV got skill better with the timing mechanics and skill based rotations that aren't just spamming and mashing your keyboard like retail I think too.
>people RPing at Brewfestcomfy
name my character. suggest anything because im uncreative
>>582019330wuklamat
>>582019254https://files.catbox.moe/ogx75r.png
>>582019865
>>582019325>two dracthyr rping a heartfelt reunion>dwarf named Tiddytwist runs between them to /yell “IM FAKIN SLOSHED”sovl
>>582019269RETAIL WoW TAKES SKILL BRO!!!LOOK AT ME DOING THESE SKILLFUL RAIDS BROO!!!!I SUCK ASS AT FF14 AND NEVER EVEN GOT TO 60 IN CLASSIC BECAUSE I KEPT DYING BUT RETAIL IS SO SKILLFULL BROOO!!!!MY NAME IS PREACHER WoW DUDE!!!!
>>582018743the crest system wouldn't be so bad if Ion wasn't a supreme faggot who taxes the shit out of anyone who doesn't do exactly what he wants
Be glad they got rid of flightstones and whatever they were called in TWW lol.
>>582018874Those are literally the only dracthyr characters in the game post-DF
>>582021669too many
>>582021669theres still the gay little RP in the cities that repeats every time I go anywhere
its not over stop dooming(its over)
>>582019269>Um? Mythic sweaties? Mythic WoW is actually easy and no-skill.>Uh, no, I've never done it but I'm sure I totally could if I tried which I haven't and never willLet me guess, you've been unsubbed since ~Cata-MoP but still obsess over a game you don't understand?you niggers need to get shot already
>>582022254Hey everybody ! THIS GUY THINKS RETAIL WoW PvE TAKES SKILL!!! THIS GUY THINKS RETAIL WoW PvE TAKES SKILL!!! THIS GUY THINKS RETAIL WoW PvE TAKES SKILL!!! THIS GUY THINKS RETAIL WoW PvE TAKES SKILL!!!
Classic takes no skill
>Guy calling CE raiding easy refuses to post any CE experience to back up the delusion, or even any proof that they've played the game since Mythic was even a thingI have probably seen this several dozen times on this website, and that's being charitable that those are all different people and not ~5 mentally ill psychotics
>>582022846we should start demanding people who claim retail to be too easy should post a screenshot of their CE achievements. no wasting time arguing with these smooth brains. I play classic too but retail is by far a harder game than classic and it's not even remotely close
Classic takes time not skill time spent isn't a skill
Guys I think we have to be honest with ourselves. We soft skins ruin everything we touch. So many world ending threats were entirely our fault. We need to surrender all authority to Dracthyr.I want to see those angelic wings flying over every city watching over us and keeping us safe. I would gladly give up my sword and allow Dracthyr to control all magic. It would be so nice to finally have peace. Maybe they could even teach us how to be sentient. Be sure to thank your local Thyr for his service.
>>582023717Honestly I'm going to play forever just to get away from you trannoids
>>582018869sell me on memefox hole
TRVTH
>>582024159The hispanics are not going to like this...
>>582024034Tight and squishy, added leverage with a fluffy tail to grab.
IT TAKES SKILL TO KILL ONE MOB AT THE TIME AND ITS FUN TOO
>>582023874See that's why forever will fail. All those apocalyptic events and no proper soldiers to defend azeroth.
>>582023717ironic fetishposting is still fetishposting
>>582021461valorstones
should blizzard completely turn retail into a lobby game? i see more and more people advocating for that now that forever is here
>>582024410You can pull like 3 mobs with all the new gear unless you're playing a meme class like rogue
new weekly, gather 5 people in a house,,,wtf is this shit quest
>>582024159>Give Horde actual story for once>Surprise surprise, people want more of it and not boring Alliance trash we're constantly fed forciblyAlmost like the Horde is what makes Warcraft Warcraft, or something.
>>582024539>5 peoplethat's the whole retail playerbase...
>>582024637Five Blizzard employees...
>>582022254>Mythic WoW is actually easy and no-skill.generally the encounters are pretty forgiving up until the last two or threei have only done the first few ever, its not something that super interests me but i've considered trying to raid just for a bit of a social outlet considering i spend alot of time on the game as is i don't get that from m+, theres a better chance of finding equal skilled players to share keys with, and idk could be funwhats not fun is actually trying to get into a real guild thats going to clear the tier
>>582024458That's a fetish? Did you reply to the wrong post? Dirty mind if not.
>>582024783Letting people stomp the raids is fun
>>582024159I'm playing through it now. It's pretty alright. Not flawless, but enjoyable enough. Most competently written thing in a while.Gameplay is a bit iffy, I'd rather have had an expansion that was more on the traditional RTS side of the game instead of being closer to Rexxar's campaign which was primarily just hero focused as they run around doing everything, but it's whatever, I can ignore it for just being something good in a long while.
animals have titties
How it feels to finish a zone or an expansion meta, knowing you'll never have to go back.
It's time to flush the toilet.
>>582025361it would have been cool as an action rpg, I don't like the hero RTS gameplay so i just watched the cutscenes and enjoyed the story
>>582025605But the Forever Classhitters aren't finished catching what we're dropping.
guys i'm only 3 key levels below my final score from last seasonwhat gives?are the keys just that much easier?granted i didn't really start pooshing until they announced umbral champion and i spent a shitload of time gearing alts and playing thembut this season i don't want to flounder in the last two weeks like i did last season so i'm trying to push as far as i can before .5/.7 so i can enjoy the crest of the rising tideanyone else think 1% is going to end up 1 or 2 key levels higher than last season?
>>582024159People experience a proper Horde story after 10 years and go>Holy shit, this is what Warcraft is about! We need more of this!Yap yap yap, that's the Power of the Horde™. Gonna be real amusing when they do an Alliance one and it ends up easily being the worst story to ever touch Wowcra tree!
>>582025763I got 3400 weeks ago so I think the keys are very easy but those insane will raid items will probably increase the 1% quite a bit
>>582024625>HordeNigger this is pre-wow, the Forsaken are their own thing just like the night elves were.
>>582026156Expansion ends with them officially joining the Horde, therefore it's Horde content. Cope and seethe blue-boy, your faction hasn't been out a good story in 20 years!
>>582026156lil unc you're coping
Forsaken Kingdom is Horde content when I wanna claim Blizzard's biased against the Alliance. It's not Horde content when I wanna praise it.It's that simple.
>>582026220>ends>therefore it's Horde contentholy gigacope
>>582026461If a story solely exists to explain why the Forsaken joined the Horde, then yes, it's Horde content because it only exists because of the Horde.
this is the most retarded argument I've heard on wowg since the furry thread war
We did it chat
>>582026156You are a fucking retard.
>>582026582Whatever helps you cope, sis.
>>582018743You can thank mazies for its existence
i thought u were an orc because of the powercurve and then i scrolled downfk u noob
Asha seriously gave Halo to these retards after retail died?
>>582018743The crest system is good at its core imo.It just suffers from the range of the different difficulties.What I find the most retarded is how tier sets are basically a mandatory borrowed power and now there's these "cantrip" items as well on top of trinkets, made super strong on purpose.
>no arcatina weeklyNOTICING
>>582028132But I got a cool warcamp
>>582028037commit splattershot from splatoon 2
Blizzcon was so bad that they haven't done a video since the night before
>>582028231>change the other camp background to only needing 1 item>keep the other at 4>don't even get 1 each week
>>582028037its notits literally timegating your gear and because of how fucked up the reward structure is now its creating massive disparities in ilvl for people who do and don't mythic raid or even how progressed you are in mythic raidthats not even to speak on upgrade tracks which is something that people that used to play but don't know complain about and i don't think they're wrong to do so
>>582028314They live together? Don't they know that's sinful?
What are Dracthyr doing with all those crests anyways? All those stones too. Millions upon millions of them and we don't question it. Is this a conspiracy? Think about it. Two Dracthyr completely control big upgrade. We totally rely on them and at the same time they are amassing great wealth. What happens when they decide to up the price or refuse service to undesirables? We would have no choice but to comply or be a low IL shitter.
>Forever has blue waifus>Retail has dogs and gay trollsit's over for us
>>582029106>Forever has blue faggots and trannies>Retail has sexy goats
>>582029317Retail has way more trannys anonWe had a tranny expansion ffs
>>582029390Sound like you're the tranny
>>582029390Difference is retail is live.Forever is paid beta.You can take this thread as an example of how these people flock over to whatever that's more popular. See how all these furfag troon posters are nowhere to be find here, but if you go to the Forever thread, it's full of shitperas and pandas posting like "when?" and "can we has this?" or the ever present futafag slop poster who now spams the blue troonified elfs.
>>582029964>retail is dead>forever is popular>furfags love attentionwow, got anymore insight anon?
>>582029390And one of their main literal selling points of Forever is to have gay ass Elves again with flamboyant hair styles and colours and immediately just go against the things they highlighted that shit about.And faggots like you are eating it right up.
>>582030056Forever is going to be the tranny capitol is my point if you need it that bluntly.
>>582029964we still have femthyr
Orphan quest stop being bugged finally.So wew, all four metas done.... Guess I'll go fish now or something.
forever is for the ugly trannies retail is for the passers
>>582030316What is that stance? Lmao is that really the femtroll combat stance? I thought every race does their combat stance of that mount, but that doesn't look right.
>>582030316glad i got that done when it was currentprob only one i'll ever do because that mount puts the other three to shame
>>582030469Too bad passing trannies either aim to get axed or get on only with other passing trannies.
>>582030186>>582030219>>582030469All of this is not featured in Forever btwdraccys are 10x gayer than the skyelves anon and the girls are hot.
>>582030690trvth nuke
>sky elves are troon blueWhat did blizzard mean by this?
it's looking like warrior week this week6 of them should be enough
>>582030690lmao when you put it all together like this it's really egregious, they've really dialed this back since DF huh
>>582030690I'm not saying there's no pozzed shit on retail or that it disappeared.My point is that the playerbase will flock over and make it that way whether you like it or not.This is basically like WoW vs XIV.One game has devs desperately pandering to fags and troons while the other one simply attracts them.Like I said, just look at the state of the threads - wowg is practically dead while wowfg goes autosage in less than an hour, full of tranny ai slop and circlejerk, basically what you would have gotten here otherwise.
>>582030530It's the 'crouched' stance. Same one as when a character goes stealth.
>>582030690What were the tranny's qualifications for being made the closest thing to God the Warcraft setting has? Just being a tranny?
>>582030690>All of this is not featured in Forever btwYet*
>>582031281You know it.
>>582030690>bottom rightis that two gay dragon frog things? wtf? it sounds so absurd that it feels like blizzard is mocking them
>>582030993>sky elves are troon bluewhat the fuck did YOU mean by this? shit can't be blue no more?
>>582031382It's gay frogs, yes.The Dragon isles has Titans putting chemicals in the water as well.
>>582031145>i'll stick with the dead game because at least theres no trannys>nevermind that the RP, Housing and race selection means they'll never properly leave Retail
>>582031452Dear gawd... how deep does this rabbit hole go! It's all troons?
>>582030690how could you make a collage like this and not include Dragonflight's depiction of nonbinary children?
>30 minutes between replieslol
i was playing Peak all weekend with friends but i wanted it to sound cooler and more exotic so i prounounced it "pitke" to my mom
>>582016046>evercold in january>12.2 in februaryit will be kino winter>b-but forever...don't care about another fresh
>>582034067>Forever and OG releasing so soon>Retail only has 12.2 to compete with
>>582034067>>582034450>Retail is competing with XIV's new expansion and Forever's release with these dungeons, a new invasion and a pity party for Xally's backstory grim
>>582034681Reminder that this lineup got booed on stage during Blizzcon. The only thing that got a visibly negative reception during the entire event.
The only reason people even still play this shit is raiding and erp. Everyone that still plays this shit complains about the gear treadmill constantly. Why don't blizzard just do what xiv does and make a really easy to acquire prebis set so onboarding to raids isn't complete cancer?
>>582035192Uhhh nah sorry gotta farm engagement metrics. Here, have you tried farming 50 +10 dungeons for mythic crests?
>retail is so shit that the only thing people complain about in Forever is that it's too similar to this shit show
>>582035416There's no paid races in retail but keep coping lmao
>>582035475try playing haranir on a starter account
>>582035475yeah you just havesub+paid expansions+store mounts+store mogs+store housing+store toys+store pets
if i close my eyes this doesn't exist
>>582035553>he thinks he's gonna dodge the shop with foreverLMAO there's literally an ingame shop button there. Insane levels of cope.
>>582035727>getting mad at things that don't exist yet
Retail defenders have been pretty quiet since this dropped
>>582035898I have those same gloves for when I'm cleaning the shitter!
>>582035764if you don't like it you can just go back to era servers
>>582035764I'm not the retard coming into a retail thread to post offtopic garbage. Keep seething.
>>582035553All but one of which being optional, but hey, have fun with whatever eventual expansion comes for Forever. They'll either rehash BC/WotLK to make it 'free' with paid elements again, or do an entirely new nonsensical expansion that'll also be paid.And don't worry, the store will be filled soon. You think they're above retreading Retails footsteps after selling you beta access with cosmetics and a playable race?
Retail's never had to pay 30 dollerus for a race on their own. Therefore retail > retail-
I'd pay 60 dollars for furever Vulpera.
>>582036780The furry market is stupidly huge, would be amazed if they didn't rerelease worgen and vulpera for a price.
Is there any way to speed up the Tokka rep? I know there's the things you can kill for an extra pittance of rep, but anything else?
>>582035170What's so bad about that lineup? Iron Docks is at least pretty straight forward and Stonecore isn't great but it's not agonizing. I'd rather do Stonecore than Hour of Twilight, Lost City, or Throne of Tides.t. haven't played since sneedolands
>>582036589blue elves are optionaluh oh
>>582037010No
>>582036589>keep getting mad at fictional events in your headdamn anon, Forever has you in a chokehold huh?
wish i could be as naive as you are bro
It's funny to watch blizzard itt turning on their retail part that easily. Forever trannies will know the same when Blizzard will cook something else in a couple of years and turn on them too.
What's the erp addon now?
>>582035898They want $80 for THIS?Please tell me this is fake and I am falling for bait.When I shelled out $60 for the wow memberberry mogs in D4 I thought I was paypigging out badly to Blizzard but this is another level.
>>582037716>A$
Golden AgeVanillaTBCWrathNuWowCataMistsWoDBorrowed Power EraLegionBFAShadowlandsSlow Talking Women EraDragonflightTWWMidnightTLTWhat do you think will come next?
>>582037761Oh good it's croc money.$50 is still pretty bad though. I can wince at this and say "$30 would be a ripoff, but okay."
>BfA and Shadowlands was carried solely by the art team>Everything falls to complete shit afterwardsDid I get that right? I know absolutely fuck all for Dragonflight besides:>Those videos Blizzard posted mocking complaints and quickly deleted>Those humanoid Dragons>LGBT quest lines out the assThat's all I know, I miss that one leak everyone freaked out about with Anduin marrying Sylvanas.
>>582037876NuWow starts with Legion because it added the maze
>>582037716it's Australian money but I'm sure it's insanely expensive for what it is in US money too
>>582037953Do not shittalk the Maze. It is all that separates us from ziv.
>>582035898Holy shit, this is Concord levels of art design.
>>582025443I had a specific feeling about Shadowlands. While most people were relieved to cast that expansion aside and forget it like a bad dream, for me—playing a Death Knight—it felt personal. It’s been about four years since it ended, yet I still feel Shadowlands was the last Warcraft expansion that actually attempted something serious (flaws and all); after that, we were just fed routine shit that doesn't sit right with me at all. When I killed Sylvanas, I found personal absolution. I had hated her, but I forgave her after defeating her. But what did I feel when I killed Fyrakk? Sure, I hacked him apart with his own axe, and yes, he provoked my anger—but who was he to me? A nobody. Just like Xal'atath—another nobody who doesn't seem to know that footwear exists in this world. But Sylvanas? She’s a veteran of the Third War; her sister is a veteran of the Second War; my character is, in a sense, a Third War veteran too. We are, at our core, soldiers marching toward death. In the realm of the dead, I encountered other soldiers marching toward death, and that was a hundred times more compelling than what’s happening now. No matter how much people bash Steve Danuser, he was the lesser evil compared to what later writers did to the legacy of the Warcraft universe—going all the way back to Orcs & Humans.
>>582038040It's arguably one of the worst additions to this game ever
>>582035898I actually went through the store yesterday (being an ausfag) and didn't even get close to buying anything. I have money but the minimum $40 price tag for a shitty mount to add to my collection of hundreds of mounts is insane.
>>582037953>a decade of maze+ What's next? I guess Delves? It doesn't feel as progressive as M+ was when it launched.
>>582016562>do content I hate so I don't have to do content that I hate anymoreI don't get you people
>>582038045I mained DK before Shadowlands so I know where you're coming from but I actually felt more mad about it than with newer stories and content. Personally Shadowlands ruined Death Knights, Forsaken and Night Elves for me. Because of Shadowlands I can't take the story/lore seriously any more. All of this new cosmic shit is just eyerollingly bad
god i wish i were my dracthyr
>>582035898*clears throat*
>>582038401>to celebrate you paying $15 bucks a month for 20 years why don't you buy this $90 mount
>>582038045A good videogame story requires a good writer and a tard wrangler. You get all the benefits of a vision with someone ensuring there's direction to it. Someone is forced to deal with ideas bouncing back at them before it's become a joke post-release.A genuinely awful videogame story is enabled by a writing team. You get no real unified vision, but you'll still have one guy ready to take the blame. Once they're out barely anything changes because the figurehead was bargaining with the team to push his ideas while pandering to everything they wanted. Even Metzen looked at that and said "nah man, I'm good."If Dunguser was allowed to write the story but had a guy in the writer's room ready to kick his ass the moment he did something stupid his WoW era would basically just be Bleach with OC Donuts. And I would take Bleach over what we got.
>>582038397you're late
>>582038401>$90 (TWW) vs 5 million gold (BfA)
>>582038401>a gaudy yet functional giant dinosaur mountA near-infinitely better deal than "cata green questing set + tier 13 shoulders/helm and a pair of kitchen gloves!"
should i take my meds or have they reduced the amount of warbound items you get from delves
>>582038647New mount: Different!
>>582037937Someone answer me?
>>582038401>>582038647
>>582035898Quiet cause I never noticed it was a thing.Looks shit, like most shop things.There, commented on. Happy?
>>582037071If you played Sneedolands you know how shit Sanguine is. Ulda is garbage as well, Maisara isn't loved either. They're changing all these dungeons to be fair but I doubt they'll do a good job.
>>582038647somtink haz spookt one of de brutozors, sentink it into a panik!
>>582039384I somehow barely remember much about Sanguine Depths, other than it being too long. I can really only recall Theater of Pain and Necrotic Wake for the most part now that I think of it. I'm going to blame the vaxx on that.Also, looking at this again I can't believe I forgot to mention Underrot. That one is total ass.
>Frostmourne transmog in WotLK remixits finally happening
>>582038397thank you for your service
I don't want to join the cutting edge gear treadmill, I don't have a guild and I'm happy enough to experience content in the LFR finder. Is the best way to get reasonable gear still just doing the LFR once a week and the LFG dungeon once a day?
>>582041282Veteran gear is just bad. You can get champ and hero track stuff from preys and delves. Depends how high you wanna push your ilvl. You can also bonus roll the last two heroic bosses for myth gear and that's doable with no guild.
>>582041519I don't really get prey and delves coz they're new to me. I have some quest for prey but when I go to the locations there aren't any mobs there. I did some delves in the campaign but the ilvl was sub-200, do I need to do them Heroic or something? How do I do this? And when you say the last row heroic bosses, do you mean in LFR or something?
>>582041640Preys send you to a zone and put a filling crystal on your screen that you fill up with killing rares, collecting traps (visible on minimap) and doing the one crystal world quest it gives you.Delves have tiers. Good gear starts at tier 8.Raids and dungeons have higher difficulties that exist outside of the automatic finder tool. Groups are gathered manually by people in the group finder and then you physically head there. This is how you do mythic0 and mythic+ dungeons, and normal/heroic/mythic raid