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Previous: >>581985298

>News
Agent Record | Severian
https://www.hoyolab.com/article/46653676
Agent Record | Phoenix
https://www.hoyolab.com/article/46653231
[Web Event] Vyrium Vacation Album
https://hoyo.link/3wOLXYiYD
Version 3.2 Special Program
https://youtu.be/kdGJDZb6mWk

>Newest Trailer/Teaser/Character Demo
https://youtu.be/Ln0ilmPqXU0
https://youtu.be/VjNhciBWgug (EN)
https://youtu.be/_Q6RmpJjZHs (JP)
https://youtu.be/HHL6KTgTEdU (EN)
https://youtu.be/k5Bdf6CsPCo (JP)
https://youtu.be/3IyJbHQvHhA (EN)
https://youtu.be/YuOjMdevW0Q (JP)

>Upcoming Events for 3.2
https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/en-us/news/166000
All-New Program 09/09 - 10/20
Angels Support Operation 09/09 - 11/30
Potential Hypothesis: Reforged in Fire 09/09 - 10/20
Clink Clank Pinball Knight! 09/10 - 10/19
Shadow Chase Showdown 09/16 - 10/05
Surprise Screening PLan 09/23 - 10/20
Advanced Bounty: Area Patrol 09/23 - 09/28
Diary of an Orbie Parent 09/30 - 10/19
"En-Nah" Into Your Lap 09/30 - 10/20
Chronicles of the Hobbling Crow 10/03 - 10/19
Data Bounty: Combat Simulation 10/14 - 10/19

>Redeemable Codes
https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/redemption
ZENLESSGIFT
ZZZGRIND32
ZZZINK32
ZZZVOID32

>Resources and Useful Links
https://rentry.org/zzzlinks
https://rentry.org/ZZZ-Friends
https://rentry.org/ZZZ-Guilds

>/zzz/ OP Pastebin (use this if making new thread)
https://pastebin.com/PzbMf13P
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I love my NPC wife Dracaene!
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I love my yuri flops, worm flops, and loli flops.
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I love my wife Aria!!!
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Banging....BOOS!
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!!!airA efiw ym evol I
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Give me your Lindverne cope theories. How could she be playable?
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what killed the hype?
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For me, it's Nangong
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2 of the next 3 banners are gonna flop.
Roxy is gonna flop worse than Claret.
Severian is gonna flop because he's a male (and, worse, because he's a male with a super shit moveset).
Phoenix isn't likely gonna flop. No idea how well she'll do though. But she's hot, the community seems to like her and will probably be at least T0.5.
I say "isn't likely" because there's a chance Sunbringer might be the next agent, and if that happens, then RIP Phoenix. Nobody is going to waste pulls if they know Sunbringer is next.
That said, if any of the next three agents are going to do well, it's definitely Phoenix and not Dykebait #2 or the M*le.
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>>582030526
>Give me your Lindverne cope theories. How could she be playable?
By using mods
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>>582030709
>But she's hot, the community seems to like her and will probably be at least T0.5.
They said this about Cissia and yet she's still one of the worst selling units in the game, face it, most of the ZZZ "community" are twitter larpers who don't even play the game they just goon to the characters and share memes, explains why so many "popular" characters end up flopping so hard. ZZZ is popular on social media but nobody actually wants to play the game let alone spend money on it. It's like Touhou
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Don't blame me when I flop
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>>582030924
>most of the ZZZ "community" are twitter larpers who don't even play the game they just goon to the characters and share memes
and devs still pander to them by dumbing down the game and adding normieverse collabs
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lindy is cute! cute!!
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>>582030924
Cissia is a huge brick and her design is much worse
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>>582030924
Cissia flopping proves that there is no saving this game.
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>>582030924
Cissia wasn't hot, her Tier was dependant on owning unpopular Agent and people only started liking her after playing the story chapters with her, not everyone rushes the story as soon as it drops.
Even those who did rush the story during Nangongs banner had already made up their mind about skipping.

Phoenix has had zero criticism, no clown outfit to cry about, her biggest obstacle for selling is needing Velina .
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>>582031269
How can you say that when Claret exist
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>>582031330
?
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>>582030924
True all that. Yet she still has the most likelihood of ANY sort of financial success compared to the other 2, even if that likelihood isn't all that big to begin with.
No betting man would ever bet on Roxy or Severian making money.
I hope that all of this teaches Mihoyo at least 3 important lessons:

1. They need to work overtime to kill this game's popular perception of VH agents being the only agents you should pull. That hurts every other banner no matter how far away they are from a VH agent's release. I think everyone who actually cares about ZZZ can at least agree to this one thing. And now for a more controversial point:
2. Either have zero male characters or actually put in effort when you design male characters. Severian arguably has the most uninspired moveset and animations of any agent in the game. Yes, that includes free 1.X characters like Soukaku. And now for a much more controversial point:
3. Keep the yurifaggotry to Genshit or HRT. Yurifaggotry is a big reason Claret flopped. Those "twitter larpers" you mention include the retarded yurifags who draw Claret and Roxy yuri art and yet don't play the game or pull for the character, resulting in her being down there with SBilly in being the worst selling agents of the game.
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>>582031280
They made Cissia a dedicated Seed support when nobody rolled Seed, she never had the possibility of doing anything except flop.
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(SICK GUITAR RIFF)

As he came into the window
It was a sound of a crescendo
He came into her apartment
He left the bloodstains on the carpet
She was sitting at the table
He could see she was unable
So she ran into the bedroom
She was struck down
It was her doom

Annie, are you okay?
You okay?
You okay, Annie?
Annie, are you okay?
You okay?
You okay, Annie?
Annie, are you okay?
You okay?
You okay, Annie?
Annie, are you okay?
You okay?
You okay, Annie?!
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>>582030371
that's a smug nangong
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>>582031474
>I hope that all of this teaches Mihoyo
Lol
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>>582031330
Claret is objectively better than Cissia in design and meta positioning she's just a fag
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It really is annoying when Mihoyo releases a character but makes it so that you needed to have also pulled a character that came out just before her.
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>>582029652
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>>582031474
>Keep the yurifaggotry to Genshit or HRT
they're trying to market ZZZ to one of those games rn bro. i mean they were doing it long before but its no longer subtle
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>>582031783
You don't *need* to, but you're an idiot if you can't see it coming
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>>582031232
Is she cute enough to convince Claret to continue the Flint bloodline?
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Does flat pen do nothing on Remielle?
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>>582031550
she's a great hypercarry and sneed is one of her best supports. retarded ccs fucked her over by calling her a sneed support. idk if this is an issue with other games but zzz ccs are the dumbest motherfuckers
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>>582030924
1.4-2.5 just kinda ruined it i think vivian was the last character i spent money on personally. if characters like cissia, remielle or the idols came out earlier i would've pulled them all but 2.0+ made me quit before they came out. i only just came back on a "fuck it" whim and cause i thought the arguing about yuri was funny. nothing about the game itself or its content got me to come back. as a 1.0fag, zzz kind of a walking corpse atp. most of the "vets" ARE probably gone and its mostly tourists just passing by anymore. i dont doubt that at all.
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>>582032013
Consider the following scenarios, one from a new player and one from an older playerr:

1. New player: Someone gets into the game because they see pictures of an agent on social media. He spends the next week quickly grinding polychromes from in-game progression. He gets the character before the banner ends. OOPS! Turns out that this character isn't optimal without the character that was in the prior banner! When will that character rerun? Maybe in a few months! Maybe in a year! Maybe never! Who knows? See how this is retarded for newfags?

2. Older player: Someone is interested in getting a character that is arriving in the banner after the current one. He knows that you need the current character so that the next character can have an optimal team setup. He can force himself to get the current support character so that the next character is optimal. But what if he doesn't end up liking the next character when the character comes out and he tests the moveset and it's shit or isn't meta or he just isn't happy with it? That puts in in a bind. Proceed with the original plan of pulling for that character he doesn't like anymore (for whatever reason) or accept that he wasted pulls on a deadweight support character who doesn't have their optimal teammate because he doesn't want to waste any more pulls on a character he specifically no longer likes. Again, see why this is retarded even for older players?
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>>582032346
Did the CCP kill zzz?
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>>582032060
Would you love Phoenix even after 1000 deaths?
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>>582031474
>Severian arguably has the most uninspired moveset
That's intentional, males sell just not in-game.
They need Severian with the S-rank tag to dodge the drama but none of the fujos are doing DA or learning his rotations, he'll sell plenty of merch outside the game though.
Banyue was a mistake, Lighter and Hugo weren't.
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>>582032457
Many such cases, who would've thought the punk kids game was gonna be murdered by the authoritarian govt
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>>582032532
Banyue is absolutely hilarious. A male character in ZZZ that has zero fujo appeal because of him being a robot with none of the usual cookie cutter ikemen features that fujos love. No wonder he'll never get a rerun.
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>>582032445
>Skipped Banyue cause I hadn't pulled Lucia
>Skipped Cissia because at that point Seed was too garbage to be worth improving and they don't help eachothers aesthetics
>Skipping Phoenix because nobody likes Ventosa
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>>582032445
I don't particularly care for long winded coping.
>New player
Their accounts will be bricked for the next year, so it doesn't matter if their teams are optimal. They don't even know what optimal is
>Older player
You're actually describing a metafaggot. Older players already know how the dev team does things and did their bitching ages ago or moved on.
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>>582032726
He's a characterade.for straight males in the wrong game and 95% of his appeal is in the gameplay but it essentially being ten times the effort for 3/4 of the score killed it because it is a gacha after all.
I'll keep saying it, they should've made Banyue a girl.
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bros are my scores good enough for a F2Poorfag? (monthly $5 knot pass only)
units are M0W0 unless stated otherwise
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Foof Status?
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>>582032764
>Older player bitched about issue
>Issue keeps appearing
>Older player becomes Ex-Player
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>>582032968
Have you been dumping polys into the standard banner?
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>>582031993
There's so much yuri teasing throughout season 1 between both playable and NPC characters I daresay this has always been a yuri game
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>>582032909
>“Why did they make my waifu a brick.”
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>>582033037
no I just lose my coinflips a whole bunch
>NO KOT (!!!) not even M0
>M1 S11
>M1 Grace
>M5 Knot
>M5 Koleda
>M6 Rina
and also, you know, I got a bunch of these from the standard banner pulls we get weekly
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>>582031625
The gong is always smug.
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is this doomtime bros, I wanna do some dooming
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>>582032726
Banyue and Cissia rerun in 3.3
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A R I A
R
I
A
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You tried to rape a female agent! Pic related is the result
Any questions?
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Does character design even matter? I don’t think sales would drop if they started using AI.
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Does Hoyo regret Void Hunters?
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>>582033673
>no reversal/revenge rape/submission/powerful orgasm/unexpected orgasm

Shit list, I oughta rape you
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>>582033673
Aria wouldn’t want to reveal herself as a powerful robot so she’d let me rape her.
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>>582033912
evidently not considering they've been releasing them faster and faster
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>>582033203
Fufu, Orph, Seed, Yidhari, Cissia, Roxy...
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rape is bad
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>Yuripedos really believe the Chink Investors are not backpedaling from Dykeslop after Claret flopped this massively.
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Banyue looks like an Overwatch character.
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Rape jokes, much like rape itself, is enjoyable for all when done right!
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>>582032346
Man this is all the more demoralising to hear from a fellow 1.0 fag but imo Bagel has the potential to bring back commissions at least if they change the objective from pure money grind. Control skills were a cool idea to do *something* about the ton of i-frames and floaty shit ruining original combat feel, but adding a class of pullable characters who ignored them is such a faggot fucking move even if Claret gameplay in particular is pretty fun. Designs got worse. The story, presentation and location design actually got better, bangboo sovl is still there. All in all, if they don't abandon bagel like they did tv and actually work on it and make it >good, bring back co-op and generally add a bunch of permanent game modes to actually play the game and stay more, life could be dream. Otherwise fuck Hoyo and I'll probably drop gacha altogether.
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>>582033854
The entire game's sales started to drop off a cliff when the cast started to sprinkle in generic Hoyo bitches so yes
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>No, you don't understand, the company that aims to make revenue will keep releasing AGP-pander like Flopxy and Flopret to pander to me and my xitter friends!!!!
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Doomkeks are FUMING that they have to doompost during a queerbanner, xhey want it so bad for this flop to happen during a (You)Waifu/Loli banner.
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>frogposters
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>>582034282
>kekcinati
Ohio? Baltimore? Shittsburgh? ...Cleveland?
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>Severian has a spectral claw
>doesn't use it in any attack animations
come the fuck on
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so what IS the price of prophecy, anyway???
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>>582034389
They flop all the time. The only characters in this game that have organic popularity are Yuzuha, AoD, and Jane.
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>>582034656
Wise bussy
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>>582032346
dev mistake was trying to appeal to casuals. making a modern successor or sequel to hi3 would have probably been less of a headache
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>>582033912
>Does hoyo regret the only agents that have been successful in zzz after launch hype faded??
Very intelligently formed question bro thank you for asking.
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>>582034882
We are a HI3 successor already anyways
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>>582034650
Claret is even worse. I've said it before, but Claret is the most disappointing agent in the game for me.
I've already outlined why I think she's a failure of a design here (https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/579828032/#q579833409), so I won't repeat it again.
The fact that she only uses that bat mask in her menu animations is even more infuriating.
I have no idea what their character designers are doing. It's like the costume/visual designers are doing one thing and the moveset animators are doing something else entirely. There is zero cohesion right now.

Roxy is just similarly baffling, but in a different way. Her main loop when she's on the field is to do that tornado mode EX thing until she gets three tokens. So let me repeat this: Her onfield time is basically you being unable to even see her because she spins in that tornado mode where she's barely visible.
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update
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>>582033673
Corin would let you rape her because refusing her client would be rude and unmaidly
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>>582034967
Voidhunters are only popular because of hype. If Cissia was called a VH you’d love her.
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>>582034967
They 100% jeopardize other agents solely from existing
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>>582035102
Hey you added my suggestion of an eats cigarette tier!
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>>582034969
the normie-fied successor i guess
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I'm so tired of hags
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>>582035102
feels a bit off. vaping has gotten really popular for young adults and teens, iirc to about a factor of 3x the presence of cigarettes.
pipe representation is also really off. yeah, these characters would probably look cool with a pipe, but pipe smoking is like the straight up rarest form of tobacco intake.
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>>582035181
I'm pretty sure Cissia is more loved than Shungus, just much less powerful so a lot of players skipped.
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It’s crazy how AI can make a design better than most Hoyo designs in a few seconds.
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>>582035297
Thought it was funny and it reminded me of 500 cigarettes.
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>>582035608
am i to presume pic is not related or something
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>>582035191
>They 100% jeopardize other agents
Not a problem in genshin and honkai star rail.
Fact is this game would be dead without them.
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>>582035853
jesus she's fucking killing him
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>>582035608
That's the most basic bitch hoyoslop design with even more overly-busy details than they normally slap on their designs, retard
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>>582033912
Their only regret was making Miyabi too strong and too easy to use

I’d say it’s only by Remielle do they actually make some noticeable change
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>>582036448
what if one of the eventual etheric others is just a bike for the massive expansion of the outer rim
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>>582036707
whoops didnt mean to quote
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>>582033854
It matters since it the first thing people will see and judge. And also, the “discourse” has simply burnt me out so I personally stay away for my already questionable sanity
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>>582034726
Add Dracie and Lind
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>>582035025
>most disappointing agent in the game
Sanby
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Why are sneason 2 Ridu Chronicles available from the start of the game when they made sure to lock the sneason 1 ones until you met the relevant characters
The AoD have been squatting in the entrance of my video store for weeks
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>>582034282
It's true they flopped. But it's not like it will stop them to make even more yurifaggotry
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I love saving up during patches with characters they some how threw under the bus
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>>582037130
We drink Bomb Cola in this house, sir
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>>582037180
No, we drink Neon Cola.
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Severian looks so bad. He is like an anomaly character in the wrong class.
>>582032909
He needs a buff for sure that actually rewards the player for engaging with his kit.
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>>582037354
No daughter of mine's dating a dirty Neon Cola enjoyer, you son of a bitch
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How much crit rate do you guys have on Claret? I only have 120 this shit is so cancer to farm
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dang, people really like the smooch
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>>582037562
Looks botted. Same with that sunna jump animation. Unoriginal and boring slop
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>>582037456
Fuck you and your toilet cleaning chemical soda, your daughter developed TASTE
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>>582037562
This bitch is sucking up all of the attention
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>>582037862
doesnt that cope work on any popular thing?
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>>582037130
Now make one for favorite Monster Energy flavor. Or maybe I should make one...
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What catchphrases would a Remielle barbie say when you'd squeeze her?
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>>582037562
It's a good smooch
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>>582037908
Rem's breasts are so quite alluring!
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unhinged weirdo streaming zzz in the next hour
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I'm so glad I rolled claret. I don't have to struggle on electric sides anymore.
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>>582037562
Lesbians and Lolis lead to big numbers
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>>582038146
Nothing, suspicious fluid just spurts out of both ends
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>>582038027
Sunna! Run Away!
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>>582037130
Ellen would drink energy drinks like red bull and Celsius.
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post norma
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>>582035437
>vaping has gotten really popular for young adults and teens, iirc to about a factor of 3x the presence of cigarettes.
Disc media has replaced videotapes yet in New Eridu it seems like videotapes and movie theater has become the common way to watch movies. It's a city where old technology mixes with new. I can see people easily going back to smoking real tobacco.

>but pipe smoking is like the straight up rarest form of tobacco intake.
Yunkui Summit is presented in doing things the old fashion way so it wouldn't be too farfetched to assume they have pipes in the temple. The Hoshimi family is an old family and wealthy so they too would likely have pipes. Lucia is from a backwoods town who has easier access to older tech. Also, a pipe fits Lucia that or she would have a special kind of cigarette in a holder. I'll admit I put Neko and Dialyn there for aesthetic reasons. I might put Dialyn below with Promeia because I could see them smoking cigars as a part of work. But if Dialyn were to smoke a pipe it would be a fancy one with an electronic burner or a vape that looks like a pipe. Neko would find one in a Hollow or in a pawn shop.
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>>582038183
CUUUUUTE
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>>582038357
! !
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>>582038503
squishable
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>>582037130
Manato would drink Barqs
Velina would drink 7-up, Cherry Pepsi, or cherry ginger-ale
Yidhari would drink craft soda
Piper, Remielle, and Cissia would drink Mountain Dew
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unhinged weirdo live!
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>>582039001
Sunna, don't play with strangers
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Nangong when she realises part of the idol dream involves giving sloppy blowjobs to TOPS execs
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>>582039249
Nangong, don't blow strangers
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>>582035102
Bump Koleda and Zhao to a new top tier of "Chimney-tier Cuban Cigar Obliterator".
Burnice is definitely in recreational tier and Chingyi wouldn't smoke cause robot, so what's the point.
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>>582039001
Sure.

While I still can’t understand JP nor does Nijisanji have those volunteer translators, seeing someone legitimately enjoy the game is a treat
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>>582039249
Nangong is loaded, but also probably knows Dialyn so she can avoid making such deals.
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>>582038262
Who?
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the idols got the cops, youre all in big troble
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I wonder if aurelia academy uniforms for popular characters would sell
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>>582039249
Considering how powerful and well-connected the Proxy is, it will be a huge letdown if we doen't torture before killing the corrupt TOPS execs. If there is no torture cinematic at the end of this Arc, Hoyo has no backbone.
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>>582039523
She isn't. She makes her money with stocks and odd hollow jobs.
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>>582039656
Nijisanji vtuber that loves all Hoyo games. Eventually ended up as the shill for ZZZ by default since she’s one of the few ones that stuck around
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>>582039743
Belle is a girl, so she is allowed to sniff their panties just a little bit. Thanks for the fish btw.
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The yurishit experiment failed. The heterosexual agenda will resume soon.
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>>582040421
I will resume having sex with Eldreda
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>>582035102
Anby has a box of cigarettes and its sole purpose is to detect lasers
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>>582040421
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>>582039412
>Bump Koleda and Zhao to a new top tier of "Chimney-tier Cuban Cigar Obliterator".
Hmm, perhaps.
>Burnice is definitely in recreational tier
Maybe if there are Nitro-Fuel infused cigars, otherwise she would rather stick with drinking.
>Chingyi wouldn't smoke cause robot, so what's the point.
She doesn't have to drink hot water or tea, but she does anyway. She's an old Chinese martial arts master. she would be likely to smoke.
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>>582040161
law is unisex
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>>582040667
hol y shit
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Nitro-Fuel is a real drink and isn't some vile chemical cocktail Burnice came up with?!
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>>582040982
Yes, it's a real drink. Burnice uses it as a base for mixers tho so anything she makes is vile
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I feel like in a week from now they will update the beta with 2 new disc sets. 1 for phoenix and 1 for roxy. It doesn't make sense to not get any in 3.3 because we didn't get one in 3.2 and BOTH phoenix and roxy are looking terrible because they dont have any optimized disc set.
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>>582041027
New Eridu must have the most relaxed food safety laws
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I don't think i'd last longer than a minute
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It's Rina's birthday! Post your favorite Rina image!
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Idols flopped
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>>582041387
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>>582040960
Notchina temple can't be reached by the law though.
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>>582040960
You can't touch me, I live in the sky!
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>>582041480
zhu and chingyi are chinese, they can reach there
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>>582040421
>experiment
they'll try it again keep trying in a 6 months tho
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>>582041601
Nyo, story said they have their own laws and shit, and settle things among themselves.
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>>582040421
hoyo will keep trying. that's what the VH money is for.
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>>582041601
Gathering the 7 dragon balls with Zhu Yuan and defeating mercenary Qingyi BEFORE she became a robot
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Im surprised they barely shown what a critical system like the flintworks workshop really is
its like, here is your company advertisement 'mam, and its like barely any of the products, and even their artificial implants NEED constant care of blood that could've been used on their assembly line
it almost makes me wonder why the flint family never just artifically expanded their manufacturing capabilities with bloodbag clones
too... metal? too grimdark?
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>>582042191
pretty sure theres some people with blood that can maintain their stuff
like yuzuha
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I was hoping we would learn something about how weapons are forged at Flint Workshop, but instead we learn it requires magic blood for some reason and Roxy drinks it to power her fake heart.

wow.
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>>582042304
inb4 eldrena sunbringer has kept the monopoly of maintaining and fabricating hollow approved weapons and void hunter weapons and all flint can do is just refine porcelume to porcealloy for her
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Roxy is literally me.
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>>582042304
theres plenty intresting about the flint bloodline, but please understand someone at hoyo really wants to sell lesbians
like how yuzuha has porcelume reactive blood, and how hygo built high greade weapons like his scythe, bibi's brella and lycaon legs, while also being vampire themed
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>>582042191
>why did X not do this horribly immoral thing?
Gee I wonder.
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>>582042570
could've used a secret that some branch family member had to really expand claret's role

somethiing that MIGHT'VE BEEN THERE in claret's missing agent story
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>>582042570
is it immoral if the bloodbag clones are cloned without a frontal lobe and thus incapable of developing a personality or even sapience?
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>>582042642
Yeah well you can thank the chinese players who were upset their self insert wasn't included in agent stories and wanted them scrapped.
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>>582034650
I really hope they update his animations, because they kinda suck. Hopefully after they finalize Phoenix.
I was planning to skip Phoenix and get Severian, but if his animations don't improve I will skip.
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>>582042664
yes
it infringes on flint's copyright claims
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>>582040421
soon
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>>582042695
what? you're thinking about "special episodes" not agent stories.
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>>582043007
No I'm thinking about agent stories.
When was the last agent story anon?
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>>582040560
Where does she hide them during missions?
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>>582042484
I want a maid aria...
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>>582039906
She makes a quite a bit of it. Also, I still believe she would know Dialyn through Phaethon and could protect her from exploitive deals from TOPS.
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>>582042484
I think I need a maid Aria
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>>582043052
holy fucking shit how wrong you are.
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>>582039906
are you forgetting nangong has a private helicopter at her beck and call? she is absolutely loaded. she just doesn't use it to finance AoD because she wants them to be able to make it on their own merits
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>>582043257
>she just doesn't use it to finance AoD because she wants them to be able to make it on their own merits

Actually she secretly finances them all the time and pays people to engage with the group online/attend shows. Aria and Sunna refuse her money because they want to do it the right way but Nangong has to keep them afloat from personal savings in the shadows
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>>582043247
Anon when was the last agent story? I notice you're skipping that question and being a faggot about it. There was at most 1 special episode a year. There was at least 1 agent story every other patch before 2.3 which was a year ago.
Are you really that upset about being wrong? Have I decreased your izzat or something?
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>>582043257
I think the devs have, as usual, no clue what the fuck they are doing. Pretty sure all this info about how she makes money is from her affinity quest and it's probably just as BS as pretty much all these other AI generated affinity quests.

Things just being nonsensical makes no sense. On the one hand we are supposed to believe she works her ass off, does stocks and such to earn the money to finance the angels and gets overworked because of it, on the other hand a private helicopter pulled out of the ass. SOMETHING has to be wrong there. And, like I said, the entire damn game and especially affinity quests do this A LOT.
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>>582043052
NTA, but Phaethon is plenty involved with agent stories. Unless there is one I haven't done that doesn't have any involvement from the MCs
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>>582043531
pay attention to your own argument, you're the one CLAIMING that chinks wanted agent stories GONE because there wasnt the mc there
THE ONE YOU'RE POINTING AT HAS PHAETON IN IT
the last STORY without phaeton's participation was a "SPECIAL EPISODE" Virtual revenge
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>>582043668
the only TWO stories without Phaeton are basically Jane's and Yanagi's special episode where they make a cameo at best.
even the last labeled special episode with astra even had phaeton being more involved
I just dont get what the other guy is thinking, Im not even arguing that its been awhile since the last agent story but it could've been there if they've kept it up

Im still guessing most of the team working one it has been shuffled around and those still working in ZZZ have been pushed to event stories and artists being put to work in the merch mines
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When will they add this to the game
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>>582042191
i have my doubts they can make clones that have the porcelloy gene in them. we're in a sci-fi world where the cloning of soldiers exists, sure, but this is essentially a magic wizard gene. it's probably outside of the realm of what is possible for gene editing in this universe. otherwise we really should be printing not just flints, but also miyabi soldiers. i mean have you seen the shit toddler miyabi could do?
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Showing Claret my fully erect penis
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>>582041337
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>>582044123
>>582044123
here is the thing yiddy's parents were probably on to something when it comes to enhancing one's abilities to be hollow capable
its a DAMN SHAME that research practically died with them....

unless someone starts doing tests on yiddy (devs probably also want to memory whole her due to all the rewrites)
its probably all doing research in the hollows, which is already damn dangerous already since the damn place is such a biohazard
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>>582041337
Rina is only good for her tits
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>>582041337
Happy birthday, ghost thiren
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>>582043670
Yes this is literally what they said. They are getting rid of all side stories especially the ones that didn't involve the MC and putting everything in the main story so the MC can be involved.
I can see now you're a chink adjacent MC faggot and are upset your whining crying has actually had an effect you didn't like on the game.
Seethe and cope about it pagger.
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>>582044537
you are wrong, Its not an agent story.
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>>582043641
She's a prodigy that succeeded at everything she's ever done and regularly gambles money and wins big. She probably rented that helicopter but honestly lacking an agent story of her own is the biggest problem
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>>582044648
>YOURE WRONG!!! AGENT STORIES ARE STILL A THINGGG!!!
No they aren't slant eye because of self insorting paggers like you.
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>>582044676
but lmao its not a big deal! set it to her Agent dates or something in a text box
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>>582031783
Bonus if shes just a teammate for characters you dont care about
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Severian looks braindead AF, god damn.
>>582041248
They are probably keeping them for Eldredra and another character.
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>>582044869
R-Really?
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>Got Sanby on release
>Got Orphie on release
>Got Trigger ln the free gibs
>All of them have their engines.
Now my Sanby is invincible and doesn't even need to stun to do massive damage.
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whats the cost of yuribait fanservice?
sidelined in your own patch,
family's workshop barely a side attraction
no real way to restore family's fortunes after practically giving it all away by getting bribed with cakes
assistant kidnapped
jobs at big moment, letting MC and lindvern become the heroes of the moment
only relevant family property is some guest house
its a wonder how many properties shes burning to pay her workers
no wonder TOPS was working hard to replace her with Yuzuha
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>>582042695
Retard
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Was this confirmed that Yuzuha had the special magic blood thing?
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>>582045472
He's right though, you dumb gook
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>>582045494
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This should have been Claret https://youtube.com/watch?v=UY3kApHECEE
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>>582045523
>He
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>>582044872
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I'm here!
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>>582045494
yuzuha's blood isn't used for production of porcelume, what's special about her blood is that she is functionally entirely immune to ether corruption.
her immune system actively destroys ether, and this is a nondescript highly critical necessity for creating porcelume. it should be stated that yuzuha is not necessary for porcelume production, but is very very useful for it.
porcelloy, on the other hand, is an alloy of a non-mentioned metal blended with porcelume. the part that makes flint blood important for porcelloy production is the fact that it contains... something that allows porcelume to alloy with other metals (which it cannot do otherwise).
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>>582046018
No not you! We want Kafka!
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>>582046083
>the part that makes flint blood important for porcelloy production is the fact that it contains... something that allows porcelume to alloy with other metals (which it cannot do otherwise).
considering their blood is beneficial to artificial constructs like bangboo, her blood axe being electric, and being necessary to flint family exclusive implants (why roxy needs a refill)
we can safely assume its a type of blood that is atleast emits electricity when it needs to, and can be commanded?
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>>582046018
Show your feet
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>>582046249
honestly if they were going to make the science important and break it down as much as they did with yuzuha's role in procelume production pipeline, they would've done it by now.
at this point i just assume it just does it because they say it does it, and that's as deep as they intend for the porcelloy science to go.
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>>582046112
Who the fuck wants Usedka
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Don't forget about Sarah....
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>>582046083
>that it contains... something that allows porcelume to alloy with other metals (which it cannot do otherwise).
S-tier world building, ZZZ-tier even.
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>>582046579
I give it a small chance to come back after the HSR colab patch
I also give it a chance to happen during the HSR patch and keep the HSR colab characters regulated to the separate Event only story while the main story just sticks to known characters
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>>582033673
Now make it under the assumption they aren't carrying their weapons. Sunns is literally a random kid. I'm going to prison if they ever find the body.
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>>582029652
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>>582046731
it was yuri or worldbuilding, sorry buddy
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>>582038146
https://files.catbox.moe/r686tu.mp4
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I'm about to enter season 2 which I've seen everyone unanimously agreeing is dogshit
What am I in for, lads
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>>582047843
For a blessed time!
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>>582047843
china
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>>582047843
>everyone
I liked it more than S1
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>>582047843
2.0 -2.3 are okay for the most part
2.4 and 2.5 are so shit they almost make you stop playing
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>>582047843
Only 2.0, 2.3 and 2.5 were boring shit imo. Rest was fine.
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>>582048196
> I liked it more than S1
Pong…
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>>582048592
Ping?
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>>582047380
At least, we got Cumming Hares kino
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>>582048819
Pheng…
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>>582047843
Only through pure will did most of us survive the Chinawank. 1.0's rough launch into remaking the whole game into 2.0 was ROUGH AS FUCK. Only recently around 3.0 does it feel like we're stabilizing.
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>>582048620
I just realised that vTubers to you people are like wrestlers to kids in 1997
You all think it’s real and that they’re not just playing a character and working the audience for money.
KEK
People still fall for kayfabe in the big 26.
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>>582047843
Yixuan, who you will fall in love with
jufufu who you will fall in love with
Ye Shunguang who you will fall in love with
Ye Shunguang who you will fall in love with
Evil Ye Shunguang who will fall in love with, but then feel immense pain at what happens afterwards
Yuzuha, who you may fall in love with
Alice who you regret not rolling for/installing earlier for
Romano Tomato who you find cool then realize he's actually dumb as hell
Yidhari, who will you will fap to
Lucia, no idea what you will feel, nice tits though
Dialyn, who you will fall in love with
Banyue, who you will regret skipping/not rolling for/installing earlier for/rolling for/not mastering his playstyle
Zhao, no idea what you will feel
I think Orphie is in it too
A whole lotta ANCIENT CHI'NEE SECRET
training DBZ style, except not really
A slog that will test your commitment to the game


The Angels of Delusion, who you will, but shouldn't, fall in love with
Vesper, who you will fap to/lust for
You WILL cry during some scenes
YADA YADA YADA/NORWAY NORWAY NORWAY

Cissia, who you will fall in love with
Promeia, who you will fall in love with
Ramiel, who you develop a literal hateboner for
S Billy, who you will think is cool, until he blows it
A very cringy MC line
Edgelord wolf
McGuffin Pulp Fiction ball

Nerfed Norma
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>>582040421
God I love that pose, it's like she's ordering me to impregnate her etheric ass
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>>582047843
2.0 and 2.1 are good 2.2 to 2.4 is bad but at least 2.4 is short 2.5 is bad but okay once you get through Shungus backstory.
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>>582046018
I wish
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>>582049380
2.3 is great, the agents are not but their story chapter is good
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The claret stuff is really killing my motivation to play the game
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>>582047843
season 2 is the epitome of good ideas, bad execution (partially because the execs screwed them over, probably)
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>>582031474
>Those "twitter larpers" you mention include the retarded yurifags who draw Claret and Roxy yuri art and yet don't play the game or pull for the character,
This checks out
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>>582049380
>but okay once you get through Shungus backstory.
Don't lie 2.6 was also bad, took me three whole days to get through it because it was so fucking boring.
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>still someone here believing "yuri" hurts Claret
Your stupidity should be illegal.
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>>582029652
This video is adorable
HOWEVER
How the fuck was the camera floating here? It wasn't on a tripod or anything because you can clearly see the small movements from Roxy holding it up earlier
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The Angels are the only reason I kept zzz installed after 2.0 - 2.5
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>>582050980
Yurisloppa is a net negative yes
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I actually like 2.4 and Orphie…

And 2.5 could have been better if they only introduced Shunguang all the way back in 2.1 in basic uniform before upgrading her to the current VH in 2.5
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>>582051041
yippie!
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>>582050980
>flops worse than males
Nobody likes gays
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>>582050998
You can pretend that they used one of the Bangboos in jetpacks
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Imagine if we got Pyrois at the end of Season 1, and then Season 2 was about going to a top secret government-institution that's all about training people to control Etheric Others, and then we actually spend the whole season learning to control Pyrois, and THEN Roscaelifer happens. Maybe then the current powerup arc would feel remotely earned and not a giant asspull.
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>>582050208
>good ideas
Where? The core of the season is CCP pandering if anything they executed it well despite the circumstances
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>>582050980
Might hurt her, yuri needs equal amounts of MLslop so the chinese don't feel cucked
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>>582050980
You know it's true, xis
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>>582051243
they dont have the liquid cash for that, most of it goes to the bangboo and human caretakers and workers of flint property
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>>582049052
>Lucia
Who we ALL LOVE and CHERISH, yes? We LOVE Lucia ELOWEN?
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>>582050980
yurifags are shit at games so it checks out
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>>582034650
>>Severian has a spectral claw
>>doesn't use it in any attack animations
>come the fuck on
Better question is where the fuck does Severian's wind powers come from? His sword is just an ordinary metal sword, it's not some advanced mechanical sword that has some sort of built-in wind turbine or something. Is it his claw? It has a trianglur shape in the palm that glows, is it some sort glove imbued with wind powers? How does that make sense? And how is he able to spawn in a giant spectral claw (that he sits on)? How is he doing any of this? Is this tech or magic? Can they please explain???
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>>582051391
Nobody complaining from CN so it means they love being cucked?
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>try to find reason why people like moechakkafiya
>most common reason is to hear someone saying maid cafe phrases in an appealing way
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>>582051747
Anon, they didn't think about him any more than strictly necessary. All the thought was put into Phoenix and the others coming down the line. I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't even animate his movement and just ripped it from their various other sources.
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https://x.com/Oekaki_BONPU/status/2085247170970865848
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>>582051821
> they love being cucked?
Statistically speaking yes but not by women
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How come they still haven't released a character that panders to me
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i woke up at 14:00 today
who's the agent for this feel
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where is all the Nekomata porn
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>>582052054
harumassa
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>>582051970
Well, they do now in Zenless Zone Zero. Because Fagret is for Roxy
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>>582051251
>Imagine if we got Pyrois at the end of Season 1
then the game just would have gone to shit faster.
ZZZ began as a much more mature and grounded game with zero need for a shonen protagonist. they just decided to make the game more generic at the first sign of trouble, which was always retarded since the game's weakness was never the story. this point is completely vindicated since the game never stopped trending downwards despite all the changes, if anything it just became worse.
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>>582051915
woah
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>>582052054
Piper when she has an off day. Otherwise, Lucia getting ready for her night.
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>>582051678
NTA but I skipped her ass 3 (Three / Tres / Trois / Dwei / San / Tré / Trî) times
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>ZZZ is not even in the top 100 now on Steam even in Japan
Not even Japs like this bitch, who is she even for?
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>>582052308
>much more mature
Lol
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what could have been...
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>>582052378
I skipped her too for the Rat, but I still like her. One of my favorite Agent stories.
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>>582052417
>who is she even for?
Honkai cuckdevs
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I'm just a coomer
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>>582052417
Is this true that some faggot from hi3 in charge now?
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>>582050998
>How the fuck was the camera floating here? It wasn't on a tripod or anything because you can clearly see the small movements from Roxy holding it up earlier
Wise is holding the camera
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all the bangboo feel useless
i don't even care to 5 star any of them
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>>582052102
her Ult animation is porn
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>>582052461
yes. not twisting the story to constantly pander to the mc like the player is a big dumb baby is a point of maturity.
having the story be much more nuanced and not just
>this monster is too powerful! only a highly commercial mary sue accompanied by a spending event can save us!
is another big one
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>>582052186
Considering that the revenue numbers calling her a flop are from the chinese I'd argue they simply don't care cause it's not a VH
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>>582052308
Pyrois could have been a cool Agent but I hate him for what it represents and is attached to
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>>582051747
>why haven't they explained this character coming a month later

>>582051868
He's already more polished than Claret or Roxy, lmao. People have been begging for proper male characters and they are finally delivering.
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>>582052417
the normies that hoyo is still betting on to bring the game to glory kek
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>>582053173
>proper male characters
Pyrois or even Monato feel like they have more impact to their attacks than Severian does. I don't know what they were thinking giving him that big sword and then having him attack the way he does.
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Just stop making Void Hunters and powercreep the ones we already have into irrelevance and then people would be forced to pull regular units again because they know there wont be anymore giga-OP game-breaking units and all their old VHs are bricks, forcing them to pull every upcoming unit and then you just make sure the powerscaling between every subsequent unit is fairly even so you don't have this retarded problem they created for themselves ever again.
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They are doubling the fuck down with this, it is really funny.
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bunnybringer
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>>582052417
>ZZZ is not even in the top 100 now on Steam
>Last week of the patch and who's even playing this through Steam? I thought everyone hated having 5 launchers for a game when dealing with EABisoft
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>>582052992
>constantly pander to the mc
Most stories don't have useless MC, just say that you hate MC focus
>story be much more nuanced
In what way? It literally was the same shitty villian of the week but without interesting themes. Just one Lockspring mogs the whole S1.
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>>582050998
Porcelloy
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>>582050793
2.6 is angels of delusion
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>>582053481
>who's even playing this through Steam?
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>>582052417
>this bitch
Claret is not the problem. Phoenix's patch will not do better, any normal character never will. maybe some super broken support might be a bit of an improvement, but then the devs have to pay the price for raping the game's balance and that leads to more long term damage.
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>>582053769
>300,000 /wishlists/
so no one plays on steam
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>>582053914
>so no one plays on steam
Well clearly.



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