The Nightmare is ongoing...>>581934567>Olga buildshttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1R5hawI3OEvwLNnmKIdRe9iH9oIiBTIM12xsvVuKBXt0/edit?tab=t.0https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-KkQUFrjD_2Un3zMDmypCwZFVF5VmowswqYdLt9MOw8/edit?gid=1254256024#gid=1254256024>Galactic News Networkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjvSdi5U-Q8 >Shattered Light and Claw (Season 4 PV)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnXKxlau-v0 >Season 4 Dev notes + editshttps://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/EN/view/14048795https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/EN/view/14061509>Current Featured Banner – OlgaRate-Up Period: Sep 9, 2026 – Sep 30, 2026https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQmoNPxqH0M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPfwFgG5hR8 >Upcoming Banner Sereniel x Anikahttps://x.com/CZN_Official_EN/status/2100781881151119774>Sereniel and Peko buffshttps://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/14536071>Useful Links and ResourcesNew players guide: https://renoa-love.org/https://rentry.org/zfskhx9hhttps://rentry.org/xtb66f3ihttps://wiki.e7bot.top/#/czn/combatanthttps://cznmetadecks.com/encounters>Why didn't my Save Data save properly?https://rentry.co/cznsavedata/>Deckbuildershttps://cznmetadecks.com/buildhttps://czn-save-cal.web.app/
>>582057527https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lrr0D6uGkccForgot the producer update update
Why Olgafag leave us...?
>>582057847He became Olga
>>582057847Blonde gnome warrior called Olga Hime
CZN is pretty fun
>>582058521Rei is pretty cute
are we back?
>>582058732OLGAAAA WOOOONARABSHITTERS IN THE GUTTERSAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
>>582058732it's over
I think we need raids like in granblue fantasy
>>582058732ummm arabcucks?
Less promises, more action, Director Ching Chong. I don't care about your empty words. How many promises have been broken? All I want to see is more action. Show us what the CZN team is capable of.
>>582058732How did it comes to this? Why SG become greedier?
>>582059164Kroni i want to fuck your cock
>>582059164she kot is so cute.
>>582058732>hilde not lastwhew
>>582059242this*
>>582059164is this Rita?!
Still not rolling. I don't care for a random useless 4* or Sereniel buffs. Give me the anniversary character.
>>582058732>we used to have 100+ pulls every banners>and now it only going downWatch them giving us the missing pulls in anniversary and hopejeets will say DEV LISTENED SMILEGENEROUS
I want to fuck Eunie so hard she's walking funny for days
>>582058732>season 1440>season 2229>season 3198>season 4178Bros.... this is the dip right??? it keep going down that only means next patch is going to the moon!!!
>>582061376>DEV LISTENED SMILEGENEROUSI get you and agree but on the other hand the game's pretty fun so I'd like it to keep going.
>>582061841Y-yeah...anniv will take us to the moon...
>>582058732Doomjeet status?All feces eaten.
>>582061841>season 5500>Season 6549>season 7759>season 81488
>>582061996w-what happened in season 8?
>>582061627She's like 12
>>582061376I'm having a blast!
>>582062046sex update with three combatantsdepressed "i-can-fix-her" lolibi polar crazy girl with medium breasts who wears the jirai onna clothinga milf (virgin)
>>582062069out of ten
Imagine being nine inches deep in Eunie
>>582061978
Bros?This doesn't sound good...
>>582062785Translation=they're removing offseason. So from now on 4 banners in season.
>>582061996>season 7Tencent bought the company>season 8Tencent hire the original devs(including the original writer) who make CZN beta
>>582062785Translation=AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE WE DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO SAVE US /czn/GODS GIVE US IDEAS
>>582062346>a milf (virgin)That's awfully nondescript, let me fix that for you:>A milf (virgin) with large breasts who wears jeans and a sweater; loves giving the commander lap pillows and calling him a good boy (Renoa dislikes it).
>>582063163Can you say hag
Next girl better be flexibility and standing split focused
>>582057609>30 summoning anchors or whateverNeat.
>>582057609>weekly apologibsWe're so fucking back!
>>582061376That was because of owenGateObviously 100 pulls per patch was never gonna last
>>582063163You forgot the important thing virgin milf mother of two
>>582062346>depressed "i-can-fix-her" loliOldest daughter>bi polar crazy girl with medium breasts who wears the jirai onna clothingYoungest daughter>a milf (virgin)Their motherHIRE ME SMILEGOOK
>>582063905she's a mother of two and her adopted daughters are the two other combatants
>>582062346>>582063163>>582063905>>582064047>>582064113Boom. Now design their decks and S6 is ready.
>>582062785off-season will be removed and we will probably just have a quick downtime where they will use to rerun some characters.
>>582059164Nobody spent money on the game. Hoyo's pull and price strategy is very carefully calculated, everyone is viable c0 and you dont quite get enough pulls to guarantee everyone c0 unless you bp + monthly.Cazena launched, everyone was viable c0, they gave out twice as many pulls as genshin with better rates, and everyone pulled c0 and had no reason to buy anything else. Even when the game was super popular the first few months the revenue was terrible. So now they're trying to reduce pulls to the level where you cant pull everyone c0 without spending money but theor release schedule is too slow and their pities are too low that its impossible.
>>582064113>adopted daughtersFuck this trope, give me blood related daughters
>>582058732Ain't no way Olga patch has that many rolls
Seems like they had a similar thing to the new director introduction, but in China with their dev team, here is Chizuru holding a sign that says "No more nerfs" lol
>>582064638Gooks and chinks go batshit crazy if she isn't pure. Even if she's a widow who hasn't fucked since the pleistocene, they'll still feel cucked.
>>582064638>virgin milf, mother of two daughtersHow would that work? Chaos bullshittery?
>>582064802>"No more nerfs"...unless absolutely necessary****
>>582062346>bi polar crazy girl with medium breasts who wears the jirai onna clothing>a milf (virgin)stealing from star savior would improve the game, they gained 3k players on steam since the latter was added
>>582058732>>582061841Also, remember that Season 1 is an extreme outlier due to the Owen drama.
>>582064838>>582064945Chaos God-Virgin Mary
Which partner is the most fuckable, for me it's Eunie
>>582065740Yuri
>>582065740Licinia, hands down
>>582065740The partner whose bodily fluids I want to drink the most is Licinia
>>582066495I'm in a somewhat relatable boat, except with Eunie's fluids
>>58205873269 with Rita
Yo bros, I haven't played the game since Rita's banner how's going? Did smilegate improve the game or is it still the same?Also any new hag coming?
>>582067440same ol game with different changes and it will be like that until eos
>>582067440>Did smilegate improve the game or is it still the same?Yes.>Also any new hag coming?We don't know yet, but you missed Arabella.
>>582058732kek the feces eating AO/BA/snowjeet lost BIGLY
>>582067574How about the story?>>582067636I see, guess I'll login and see it myself.
>>582067440Same exact game with lots of new QoLs>>582067810Story improved but from trash to "gacha standard" more than anything
>>582067810story got better, but still not goodit's just... there
>>582067440we uninstalled months ago
>antiBA schizo is back
>>582068349cuddles with veronica
>>582065740Sylvia, Rosaria, and this literal who.
>>582068349rape vero
>>582067440We're all waiting for Asora desu, czn is pretty much dead the moment it drops.
>>582068590ehehehe~
>>582069024>Asora Nah we're waiting for Miresi
>>582068752Has she even shown up in the story yet?
>>582069024>4 niggas in a row>mid 3D graphics>ex-BA devsAnd the worst offender:>>>>NCsoft
>>582065740Eishlen
>BAfag appears>suddenly AOfag appears too, coincidentally>starts talking about offtopic shit againwe don't care about your drama with that game lil bro, you are the problem here
>>582069383but I’m waiting for fareidolia
Why didn't Renoa get a swimsuit 2D and chibi model
>>582065281Owen drama was always weird because Chapter 4 was shit because of nearly about EVERYTHING in it.They probably intended for each chapter to explore more of the starter trio, but whoever was the hack that wrote that one fucked over everything and scarred Owen for good
>>582070603ooc
CZN should collab with SMT strange journey
I wonder when Cassius will get replaced by a limited 5*.
>>582069641don't know much about ncsoft, but that all sounds good
>>582070603gro..
>>582071436ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY
I haven't used Cassius once.
Kayron appearance in the story? Hello?? Even Hugo got one.
>>582058732If this is true then where the fuck are my pulls coming from? I haven't spent a cent but my account is stacked and I have 400 pulls + 4 omega codes that I haven't spent yet
Justice for Owen
>>582075587you got lucky with your 50/50s? who knows its your account you should know
>>582068349VERONICA IS SO CUTE MAN AND REI TOO AND RENOA TOO AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>582074203
>>582075867My luck is average. The site is AIslop so whoever made the prompt probably fucked up
>>582075784Notice how even on arca the yuri artwork posts were appreciated? The only ones having an issue with this are gachacels on 4chan. And thats really not many LOL
Just so that everyone knows: Arabella is beautiful, interesting and fun to play. And she is so lucky to have such sexy and loyal partner as Licinia.
>>582075784Did this actually happen in epic shit?
>>582076265Trvke, Olgatroons could never
>>582068349I want to lick her ears so badly
>>582076265Who? Sorry but whoever that is is just so generic and forgettable I have trouble keeping track of all the fly by night floozies this game pumps out.
>>582076158you dont even know where your pulls came from, i dont think we can take anything you say seriously
>>582076203My understanding is that there was a "yurischizo" in the Genshin threads, and 4chan is just brown normie shit nowadays, 75% of the website's population is only because because of the 2016 election (which didn't even occur in their country) or because of Genshin, so a large amount of 4chan's /v/-related userbase has been mindbroken by some apparent yurischizo that came from the Genshin threads. And then all the shitposters witnessed how upset his yuri posting made people, and now yuri is a cucked shitpost that triggers people instead of people just being able to appreciate girls kissing girls.
>>582076529The problem with yuri in gacha is that it is never honest. It's never for it's own sake but for subverting the core player base. If you want to show girls kissing girls make it two random npc's.
>>582076728You are not the core playerbase, gachacel on 4chan.
>>582076791You will never be core humanity fecaloid, you have no place on earth in reality or in fantasy.
>>582076728>The problem with yuri in gacha is that it is never honest. It's never for it's own sake but for subverting the core player base.There is also that sort of angle, yeah. Yuri is fine, but yuri at the expense of all male pandering, including censorship of specifically "the male gaze" without any such censorship occurring to "the female gaze" is also a problem that Genshin brought to the gacha space. Genshin really is just the single worst event to ever happen to gaming. Even worse than the original horse armor.
>>582076728>nips have no issue>chinks have no issue>gooks have no issue>weirdos on 4chan have an issue and have constant meltdowns over some yuriHmm. Interesting "core playerbase" you have there.
>>582076942>>582077015there they are. the meltdown has begun ;3
Rinbutt
>>582077213...what do you think I'm melting down about?
>>582077296Let's disappear together.
>>582077321why are you posting (you)s? i did not use "they" in a singular sense.
>>582077445>why are you posting (you)s? i did not use "they" in a singular sense.So that when I reply to you asking "what do you think I'm melting down about?" you know which post is mine, schizo.
>>582077321BUH BUH BUH MUH INSPECT ELEMENT (I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS BUT EVERYONE SAYS IT WHENEVER SOMEONE MAKES A SAMEFAG ACCUSATION SO I HAVE TO SAY IT SO IT LOOKS LIKE I FIT IN) SAAARRRRRIT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR MORE THAN ONE PERSON TO DISAGREE WITH ME THIS CANNOT BEI MUST SHIT IN THE STREETS IT IS MY PEOPLES WAY
>>582077520Why do you reply to him? Why not answer my question but evade by discussion with other? Just answer simple question. Scared of being exposed? :)
>this thread right now
>renoa posted>thread immediately devolves into shitpostingI'm noticing a pattern.
>>582075784kek what is this
>>582075784What did our new PD mean by this?
>>582077520Why silent? Scared of your flawed logic being exposed? :)
Reminder, this is literally all the same one antiBA guy.
I don't even know if I should roll olga
Gacha wars on 4chan are crazy. People having dick measuring contests about their gacha self insert fucking more girls than other gacha when even playing one of these already puts you in the genetic dead end zone. It's like going to a frat bro party and bragging about watching more porn than everyone else. Insane.
>>582079123you sound upset
>>582079123This didn't happen before Genshin. If it did, I didn't play any gacha part of the war. Maybe Fate and Grub players hated each other, I have no idea.
miresi wone7 wonasora won1999 reverse wonmorimens wontrickal wonbd2 wonendfield wonarknights wonczn lost
>>582079123my game makes SO much more money than yours
>>582079627Winners don't need to proclaim their victory, let the losers do the speaking
If you want free yous just screenshot and post your whole desktop
>>582081642What the fuck.
Okay....what's going on here now
A free 10 roll?What's the catch?
>>582082148It's 30 and the catch is that they scammed you out of it before
>>582082148I actually want to know why the fuck they are using these dumb codes that could just get sent to our mailbox immediately. Sometimes they use the codes, sometimes they give the rewards normally, so there isn't any logic to it
>>582082148https://www.reddit.com/r/ChaosZeroNightmare/comments/1wal06s/they_nerfed_another_f2p_pull_income_in_event/
Got jumpscared by the Puke faggot. Do I delete my account?
>>582079627Just like WW2... The SS Nightmare will rise again!
>>582083087TIPHERA WAS JUST FOLLOWING ORDERS
>>582082308to reduce the amount of people who receive it, and to reward engagement
"Fucking kikes."- Tiphera
>>582083939"Amir and her people have ruined the arks, but the day of reckoning will come soon"Tiphera spitting straight facts
Nonoset
Is this game good to come back or are the devs still copying hsr's endgame?
>>582085967You can auto everything but endgame is still Basin, 3 bosses per season, and then the paypig leaderboardslop
>>582085154
>>582086085>3 bosses per season, and then the paypig leaderboardslopI never liked that mode.
>>582086343No one does.
>>582086473But you keep playing it even when you don't like it.
>>582085967+tower+sortie
>>582086572First gacha? At this point I feel like most people are just waiting to see if Anniversary is actually good before they dip.
>>582069139
>>58205873230%...
>>582058732God bless people who keep track of this shit. And God bless them twice for making it public.
>>582086820NOOO
>>582087036It's fake. We got 450 rolls each patch.
>>582086789this game seems to be everyone's first gacha somehow, it does all the same shit the others do but everyone's surprised when it happens
>>582087653>it does all the same shit the others doTo be fair, I've never played a gacha that nerfed a character before. They usually just power creep the character in future content or design every single boss for the entire remaining life of the game specifically to counter that one unit (i.e. like Elasticity)
They need to stop putting renoa in the cuck chair.
>>582087976She likes it there, gacha main girls should always be cucked until they learn that having a main girl is a stupid idea in the first place.
>>582087976Cuckqueaning is based and is the natural order of life. All women desire the top man to father their children. They don't even mind sharing him. Cuckolding is cringe. It's some supreme beta male shit that is most commonly "appreciated" by effeminate Asian men. Not to mention the fact that it's literally (((propaganda))). No man wants to share his woman. It goes against a man's biological imperative. If you share your woman, there is no guarantee that her kid is your kid. Women have no such issues regarding maternity, and this is why their biological imperative does not mind sharing the top man, as long as she is also taken care of.
>>582089561Tru fax, nikke was great for years while rapi sat on the cuckthrone. The second they made her the canon wife and gave you a test tube child with her everything went to shit and I lost all interest.
I WANT TO TAKE ARABELLA TO EAT DINNER AT A FANCY RESTAURANT TO EAT EXPENSIVE FOOD AND THEN TAKE HER HOME AND OFFER HER A DRINK WITH HIDDEN LAXATIVES AND THEN TAKE HER TO BED AND HAVE ANAL SEX DOGGYSTYLE WITH HER AND WHEN THE LAXATIVES START TO WORK I WILL PIN HER DOWN AND KEEP FUCKING HER ASS UNTIL SHE SHIT ALL OVER MY DICK AND INSIDE MY URETHRA THEN I WILL CUM ALL OVER HER ASS AND ENJOY THE AFTERGLOW ON OUR BEDSHEETS STAINED WITH FECES AND SEMEN
I really wish I could kill people through the internet.
I agree but just the poster two posts above this post not everyone that would be too much.
>>582092024There are some people who I do truly believe deserve to be killed. Or at least punched in the face. I think a lot of these retards would be better behaved if there were real consequences to their actions. They don't even have to worry about getting banned because they'll just airplane mode.
>>582092442Agreed, there are just some people who won't learn without facing consequences for their actions
Please be nice everyone
>>582092442This happens because we removed corporal punishment from schools and told parents not to swat their children. Animals think it's ok to act like an animal in public. Saw one of those police cam videos the other day where this brown blob thing gets drunk and starts ranting in public and when they try to arrest her she screeches and it sound indistinguishable from videos of chimps and apes howling. Some people are still closer to animal than human and those people should have their own separate internet.
>>582093212Haha, no! Break their legs and feed them to the pigs!
Nightmares for this feel? https://files.catbox.moe/hno1te.jpg
kinda quiet here today...
>>582093721We are still recovering from the last thread... was pretty loud
>>582093721Don't.
Do we know what color Anika is and what to prefarm?
>>582094252NVM Kozmic got my back
>>582093671We need to normalize showing pubes again.
>>582094001cute!>>582094030a-alright. tomorrow then
>>582093721>>582094001>>582094030https://youtu.be/dSrSTb3QoS0
>>582094030pov: you say you prefer dogs over cats
>>582094820Renoa cat eats with reverse bunny suite costume WHEN?
Name one character more useless in sortie (even with her shill buffs) than Mei Lin.Protip: you can't.
https://files.catbox.moe/0oz9m8.png
>>582095359Rin
>>582095359Isn't Mei Lin suppose to be decent in Sortie because you want to keep her basic attacks
>>582095464Why did you both link a catbox and also censor the catbox image?
>>582095634We really aren't sending our best today.
>>582095634cuz its Patreon locked until 30 days
Im starting to go insane... 20+ runs and Squidward havent dropped me any weapon
>>582096353Hey at least Squidward's showing up
>>582096353Why are you still logging in the season finished weeks ago.
>>582096353Sagger is fine too for Ara
>>582096845>>582096934Im trying to farm the shitty Blood Stone + Tentacle for Hilde and its because I picked the tryhard server so I cant make it to Masters with E0s easily
Olgakeks...we are irrelevant...
It's funny they added sortie auto clear when Olga was released because she is so fucking useless in there that I literally do not wanna even play it.
>>582095484Rin absolutely shredded HC30 during her shill season. Mei Lin gets shredded.>>582095582Fuck no, she's horrible.
>>582097217olga killed this game, olgafags deserve nothing good
>>582094378he is gay you know right?
>>582097217Because Arabella's tits are way better than the flat goblin.
>>582097136the fuck is this, am I getting desire censor'd
It's so funny how raped Olgakeks ended up being
This is a lie, Araballah was forgotten before her banner even ended. Shit personality, shit gameplay and shit boring diamond dozens body.
>>582099849Inshallot brother, bimbos will never enter heaven.
>>582099586Are you complaining that you got it now?
>>582100403Im complaining that its been 30+ runs and I HAVENT GOTTEN THAT DAMN TENTACLE
Maybe making save data easier to obtain is a good thing
>>582100729stfu retard cat
>>582100729I can't wait you'll be crying that there is no reason to do anything.
>>582100729the chaos grind is definitely not fun regardless if it is easy or not.I want something enjoyable to do
>>582100729Stupid cat get bread.
>>582100729Cute cat-wife.
I'm going to buy an onigiri kit and make specialty onigiri like salmon and pizza. I will sell them to schools and businesses and use the funds to some day travel to korea so I can give these gacha companies some real and true feedback from the global community.
Going through 40 runs of a game mode so piss easy that you can literally let an auto run do it for you is in fact not fun. The fact there's nothing to use save data on is a blessing cause grinding decks is legitimately soul crushing.
>>582100729I mean it was only the one thing everyone complained about in the early days
>>582101340If there's nothing to use them on than there is no reason to do them in the first place. There's no reason to do anything in this godforsaken game.
>>582101298Very wholesome, good luck anon-kun
>>582100729they should remove chaos shit. if I pull a character then I want to build a deck with it from the get go, I don't want to go through hours of boring shit to be able to do what I want with it.
>>582101373It is the job of game devs to not listen to their retarded customers and make a good game. The retards will get in line, but retarded devs listen to retarded customers and that's how you get chaos zero content.
>>582099224The best tits in the game are Eunie's, I want to grope those things for hours straight
The best tits are the ones that belong to your mother.
>>582102351
>>582100729REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
And another... at least I finally learned that Squidward only spawns from normal battlesI used to take the +6/8 Elites alot so thats why he was so rare, now its like 7/10 runs as long as I spam normals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3w5tN9U8_c
>>582103009You want the dagger on Hilde or what?
>>582103396yep... been farming the whole day
>>582103612Anon.. come to global...
>>582103670Account isnt transferable between servers... is it?I can probably still get to masters with Gun + Bloodstone, but atp im in too deep and I'm farming out of spiteAlso it feels bad to edit a non optimal save data, especially with the new mutation thing
>>582104027Nah don't think you can switch. Maybe if you write support or maybe with steam
>>582104257Billions must grind
>>582101459Games are supposed to be fun to play. I know this concept is alien for gachaplayers, but I actually want to play the game and have fun doing that.
Farm decks nowadays are more like farm gear, because you just use the Sortie thing to compensate for your shit deck, and I think that is why farm decks feel like shit. The Cthulhu RNG is really frustrating. After the director's video, it is clear they won't address the real problems of the game and will just throw out these sorry solutions to make up for their shortsightedness, but in the end, it is what it is
>>582104643AI generated comment
>>582104643This is actually one of the biggest issues, there's just no "game" in deck farming. Getting the right epiphanies is up to RNG, getting the right events is up to RNG, getting the right gear is up to RNG. You make 0 decisions when farming a deck, even ignoring the fact that you can "fix" a scuffed deck later.
Which difficulty do you recommend for the seasonal chaos? Lower level with more modifiers or the opposite?
>>5821071538 is the max you need for deck farming. It puts the items at 5 star.There's currently no benefit in doing anything above. Only the challenge and I think there's one mission?
The 1/6 chance is a lie...>>582107153I usually go for 8, with tier 13 modifiersNever pick -Credit debuffDont pick +Elites if you want Senectus to spawn
https://x.com/Na_xTae/status/2102742797476630948
Found a new hot CZN cosplayerhttps://x.com/zzz_nerune_
>>582104906The real issue is the lack of builds. 90% of the items are shit, 90% of the epiphanies and divines are shit. You need to spam Chaos until you hit that 1/10 several times.
The real issue is the lack of CUNNY.
>>582104906>>582108462It just is a shit experience because the only thing you are farming are the specific equipment with trying to RNG the cthulhu gun and then getting fair king's crown and verdant, that's pretty much it. There's no real decision to be made, you remove all the other shit and try to dupe the correct card so you can then edit the save data with less materials. The chaos runs are essentially just clicking the choices from which 95% don't matter at all so it becomes just busywork where you try to hit the rng. Build variety is really low too, most characters have one build with maybe slight deviations and then all the other choices for ephis are complete garbage that you never want. Then when you finally get the perfect build, you can't really use it for anything because there is nothing to do with farmed decks.
>>582110067Olga is pretty close
>Deck edit materials from the login rewardDo these retards not understand that everyone now has so much of black mass that all the materials except remove and dupe are completely worthless? Getting two divine mats for a reward is nothing when you can buy 13 of them every day from extraction
>>582104896Chatgpt what is the real problem in czn right now?
>>582113068>you can buy 13 of them every day from extractionIs that an exaggeration?I haven't tried extraction yet cause I'm trying to get Olga to lvl 62, but damn that's a lot of black mass for basically no effort at all
>>582112015huff hamshimalaladingdong
If you mean the real problem behind the current CZN situation, it’s mainly the loss of trust between the developers and part of the playerbase.The biggest trigger was the Season 3/CN balance controversy. Players had invested heavily in characters and builds, then major balance changes/nerfs were announced. This was especially controversial because the developers had previously emphasized preserving characters’ value. The backlash in China became severe, including refund demands and strong criticism of the development team. That created several secondary problems:Players don't fully trust future character investments.The seasonal/meta structure can make characters or builds feel too temporary.Save Data and progression grind have caused fatigue.Some players feel the game has moved away from its original cosmic-horror identity toward more conventional gacha/character appeal. There is also frustration with the game's monetization and frequent character releases, although the severity of this is debated within the community. And today (September 23) is significant: CZN officially changed producers, with Seung-hyun Choi taking over. His stated priorities include preserving character value, reducing fatigue, and creating more diverse content. So, in one sentence:> CZN's fundamental problem isn't that the game is simply "dead"; it's that previous balance and design decisions damaged player confidence, and the new leadership now has to rebuild that trust.There is still active development and content—the Epic Seven collaboration is currently running, for example.
>>582114392Bot post
>>582100729Retarded cat
>>582114030The real issue is a severe lack of playable Luche.
euphina drip?
>>582118158She won't be able to save the gameStop with the cap
You guys weren't kidding, Mei Lin really sucks in sortie.
>>582100729better pull rates for everyone that agrees. untouched rates for everyone else. game saved
I have Olga and Arabella who's the third I should run with. Options DoTchads?
>>582120591she’s actually worse than olga which is impressive
>>582121925hilde fracture build or tressa
>>582121925Fracture HildeHealer TressaAgony Khalipe
i'm so lonelyif only i had a cute combatant to spend time with me*glances at rei*
>>582127306?
>>582127306Rei wears a shirt with a cherry on it because she misses her virginity after the space pirate took it from her
>>582128916Rei indeed lost her virginity to those female Pirates.
>>582122508>>582122137Why Tressa
some nigga said why tressa
why tressa
How do you guys feel after today's video? Do you think the future of CZN is bright, or is it just more empty promises? What's the overall opinion of /czn/ on this?
>>582130176Nobody saw the video, we skipped to the part of the code
>>582130176>no word on the sex metaconcerned
>>582130176The future of CZN is to be piggybank for Smilegate passion project.
>>582087653>it does all the same shit the others doPartial disagree, gachas used to have a lot more uniqueness before Genshin came along and everything started getting streamlined into the same shitNot all of the past choices were good though, I still have a cold sweat remembering how in Brave Frontier I wasn't able to promote a character I liked because the character required another character as a sacrifice whose banner I missed
>>582130519Dead on arrival, art is too ugly, gameplay is a nothingburger
Miresi? More like mirESL
>>582130176Doomer here; empty promises with an already bad track record. Everyone's giddy over the free gibs and all is forgiven for some reason, Smilegenerous!I guarantee the new PD will make an apology video on something next season
>>582130176I didn't get into the Asora CBT, i can tell you the future of /czn/ alright
>>582130176>Making me tap the signNothing matters until Steam release.
>>582130176i dont feel anything since nothing of value was shown in the video
>>582131101Not even Steam can save CZN
>>58213132830 pulls are something of value
>>582131723yeah the 30 pulls that were gone during the season
>>582131691It can and it WILL
>>582131691>pander to mostly f2p incels without a job>lose 90% of revenueShould've embraced the Owen and Louis plot.
>>582131691Steamjeets...our response??
>>582132129why do you say "our"? are you a steamjeet?
At least Renoa is useful in E7, she looks happier there...
>>582132813Renoa found her real home
>>582132813It's a crime that E7 gets submissive pose Renoa with armpit while we get nothing.
>>582131691ntrGODS, any good stuff on sale?
>>582133007she needs some buffs. because she really does look happier over there. all she gets here is being the butt of the joke and being constantly on edge because the next ugly whore gets a banner and throws herself at kanchou. i actually hate kanchou. such a weird character. boring and annoying. renoa should just be happy with haru over there.
>>582133004with Raz (Owen Epico)
>>582058732>midbella has less pulls than olgadamn what a disaster
>>582057527Balance: No more sudden stat nerfs, stricter testing before release.Character value: Old characters/builds will stay viable, not power creep.Grinding: Farming will be faster and rewards will hold value better.Season content: Longer seasons, more variety; multiplayer coming (rough at first.)Localization/UX: Fixing translations, UI clutter, performance issues.CN server: Will stay in sync, plus its own exclusive content/events.Long-term support: Devs confirm roadmap extends far ahead, game is here to stay.Next steps: More details at the upcoming anniversary Showcase.
>>582131691I recognize the art from one of those games. Dorm manager is pretty good but I sure as fuck didn't pay for it.
>>582137126I will marry Veronica
>>582132813E7 is such an uglly game.
>>582130519This looks so fucking dumb, the fat nun is not stuck in any way. She's forcing her legs up to press her ass against the top of the pipe. Look at both the other girls how their legs are bent and they fit just fine. But she keeps her legs at a 90 degree angle to force a shitty joke.
>>582130571I miss touching mechanics so much. Can't believe Mihoyo used to be a champion in that area and then became the evil that took it away from everyone. A thousand dicks in dawai isn't enough.
>>582137178What a bunch of lies, kek
>>582137178Kino
>>582137178zero changes that actually make chaos fun
>>582137178That all sounds great. I’m expecting a lot more great changes announced during the anni stream.
>>582138446It is only kino for dick suckers
>>582139481Why is it kino for you?
>>582139684They are trash promises, not kino promises. If you think this bullshit is kino promises, you probably like to suck a good fat dick
>>582139829Name kino promises that you would trust and believe from them. Oh, right.
>>582137178>plus its own exclusive content/events.And this is a good thing? They flopped and still get preferential treatment.
>>582139829Everyone already forgot they already promised all of that in season 1
>>582139953China is first world when it comes to gacha, so it makes sense to pander to them rather than us, the Africa of gachas
>>582140119Thank you for admitting you’re a nigger.
>>582140119Except the CN release proved they don't even spend more than global. CN was a bomb.
>>582140190“God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them”
>>582140553>God was black and trans
>>582140553damn, you’re also a woman??
I'd prefer they just made a slay the spire clone for $40 and sold extra characters as DLC.
>>582141192nobody buys phone games let alone dlc for them
>>582137178Off season 4-star: Anika.Anni might have 2 limited characters (Luche and Euphina).Anni will give us a selector that goes up to Tenebria.Anni will give us some standard pulls.Anni will bring new memory frags.Anni will introduce new mechanics (either too grindy or too weak).And let us not forget the balance patch notes before anni and our daily dose of nerf drama
>>582142273>Luche and Euphinait's been 300 years they'll never get released bwo...
>>582142273>Anni might have 2 limited characters (Luche and Euphina).Again, I’ll need to know what you’re basing this on.
That girl in skirt definitely gets passed around the office doesn't she?
>>582142273>Luche anniObviously >Euphina anniNow you lost me.
Your heroes
>>582142273Selector will include characters including season 4.Half anni also included season 2 characters.You are so bad at this.
>>582142947The balls to say no nerfs with a chizuru there
>>582142947>Renoa on the cornerNo...
>>582143028Remember, they got the divine epiphany at the time because of all the drama, so maybe it could happen again
>>582142947
There will also be a partner selector, right?
They need to triple the rate at which you get potentials crystals.
>>582144601Of course, you will be able to choose who you have sex with
>>582142257put it on steam.
>>582145261I will have sex with Clara in front of Adel
>>582142273>(Luche and Euphina).I find this hilarious. Euphina would've never been talked about if it weren't for that delusional reddit post.
>>582144741Why?It takes only a week to farm pot mats to max out a character.
>>582147570I sometimes post her chibi to remind the thread that this ahoge is never ever. From literally on the login screen to still not released 1 year later.
>>582148730my crackhead theory is that she was supposed to be the next agony character but they pushed her back because they don't know what to do with it yetshe is definitely coming next season to be the 5-star agony dps for olga
>>582149234>my crackhead theory is that she was supposed to be the next agony characterShe was originally a green unit that did additional damage when other green units did damage. I thought Yuki sucked because she was designed with Euphina in mind. I also thought Euphina and Narja were going to be part of Lab 0, but then Narja released after Lab 0 because they needed to release an emergency Christmas Limited (after telling us there would be no Limiteds), and that's when I realized that SmileGate has absolutely no plan whatsoever for CZN and they simply release whatever they happen to have ready at the time.
>>582149234Pack it up nigga, DoT season is over.
How come we don't have the boycott power like hoyodrones? we love calling them a cattle but they stab Mihoyo CEO for less.
>>582153106Because everyone here has a life, a family, a dog, a girlfriend, friends, a job, so we don't have time for this shit, you know
>>582153993Correct but my girlfriend is Rita from CZN
>>582153106It's just a card game
>>582154186And mine is Diana. She has the best boobs in the game
>>582154186It's a shame your girlfriend isn't real anonkun, but I'm real and I could be your girlfriend if you want.
>>582154186what the.. we have the same girlfriend?
>>582100803>>582101006>>582117134
>>582154669I just realized sad cat ears doesnt look like that, I should've drawn droopy ears
Stupid retards the grind is what's fun take it out you get a fucking dollhouse you retards
>>582155097I'm having so much fun bros... I'm STILL grinding for that tentacle sword it hasnt dropped
>>582155097Everytime I remember s1/s2 grind I'm kinda nostalgic but at the same time I acknowledge it was terrible. You cannot tell me getting all the way to the end of chaos and not getting a RNG dupe is a good timeI think my best moments with this game was beating the first few HC80 30/30 sorties
>>582154834HOLY SEX WE ARE SO BACK
>>582155476You're getting played
>>582155463It was more fun when you weren't grinding the same shit every season, that's why I think they should change the entire save data farming into not having separately farmed decks and instead have the combatant have a build you can then modify according to what you need at certain times. Like a mega talent tree and all sorts of things you farm for the combatant like gems etc, then you modify the deck and can pick and choose what the active deck is. Seasonal stuff can then be kept separate as an option you farm into for the combatant and you can have one seasonal talent tree/card set active at all times so there is a reason to visit older seasons as well.Won't happen though
>>582155743we are so done...
>>582155412>>582155463The only reason this game fucking sucks now is because there's no risk just rewards rewards rewards. I haven't even used a Core yet it's a retarded mechanic
>>582155762I'd let Tiph sit on my face ngl
>>582155841I hoarded the save data edit mats for one season and then when I first used one I realized how they make the entire save data farming obsolete with how efficient they are
>>582155948I think we all would
>>582155948after she takes a bath I would let her
>>582154834>english, chinese and japanese textlolcant wait to see this pic elsewhere
>>582156326Shit is all wrong too
>>582155982Then what's the point of chaos at all
>>582156414Right now? To get the correct weapons and to make the editing cost less materials. Yeah it's fucking retarded
>>582156326>>582156354Japanese uses Chinese characters too.
IT FINALLY DROPPEDBUT THE BLOOD STONE EVENTGOT REPLACED BY AETHER EATERFUCK YOU FUCK YTOU AAAAAA
>>582155743>>582156354FUUARRKK
kek why this community is so gullible
>>582156478bet they will finally hand out weapon mats next season, Zero Nightmare is only a matter of time
>>582137178>Longer seasonsHAHAHAHAHAwhich means they are too lazy
>>582156996They're probably abandoning CZN slowly for Miresi, SG isnt chink enough to have so many employees
>>582156901There already are weapon mats, but they don't go to purple gear if I remember correctly
CZN will not ended up like Outerplane right?
>>582154834Why isn't the element justice? Also the anni banner will be the 21st, not 22nd. Fakers can't even fake basic shit correctly baka.
>>582157104You are right, salaries in Korea are much higherThey changed PD for same reason, swithed to Miresi
>>582157458What happened to outerplane?
>>582157594Got kicked out from Smilegate
New PD will save us
>>582154834nice AI image
>>582158359New PD is from epic seven no? That means PVP lmoa
>>582154834>>582156504New patch is always on Wednesday which falls on October 21st so this image is clearly fake made by a retard.
>>582157458every game survives if you pay money
>>582158531Yeah, I don't think anyone is saying it's real.
>>582157458>Outerplanewas made by other studio, just was destributed by SG
>>582158523pvp in E7 is dogshit, a lot people switched from ER to E7 but then went back
>>582158861ER...?Elden Ring?
>>582158997Emergency Room
>>582158997Etheria Restart the so called E7 killer only to be killed by E7. ER devs bought E7 ecelebs to shill their game. Never underestimate E7
>>582154834FINALLY
>>582154834real
>>582158523Also that means we gonna get more kino male characters
dobby is free...
>>582130176He should have announced full feature skins and then we could have talked
>>582161092What are they doing to Hilde?
>>582131691I can't buy these games on steam they are banned here... Danke Merkel
>>582161092Bro is getting cucked in his own savedata...
>>582161261Art imitates life
>>582161186This is the first time I've ever seen skins unusable in-game, why do skins at all I swear these devs are legit retarded
>>582161320I would want to see what goes on in the dev meetings for them to end up with such retarded decisions
>>582161092congrats anon big day
>>582155762Cuckzn never been fun
>>582161260Your fault for living in 3rd world country
They should have released card skins first
>>582161431Would move to the US if it wasn't so fucking hard to do
>>582161260>buying porn gamesWhat the fuck are you doing? You can get them so easily for free
>>582161479>hardJust be indian with fake degree.
>>582131691The jeets here will love it.
>>582161748This. Just look at all the american CEO's they're either indian or a jew lol
https://x.com/zavine_828/status/2102222513648599503
>>582161957HOLY
>>582161498This applies to sfw games too. He just want to be an upstanding members of society.
>>582161957ARAB'S ARABS
>>582161957MOLY
>>582161957HOLY MOLY
>>582162070Oh, you meant permanent residency? Yeah, that's harder than just there for employment.
>arabfags samefagging
so tired of this Arabella samefag glazing
>>582161957>another real art for ArabellaOlgabros not like this.....
>>582162434Got to cope with my investment somehow
>>582162434
>>582161957Umm, TiphJEETS! Where is our high effort non-ai sloppa fan art?!
>>582161957sexoooo
>>582162070>I basically looked into it and if you do not have a very good high paying job or have like 10m net worth you cannot move to the US from Germany.the fucking state of timmies
>realize Arab is just Yuki 2.0Well shit that means she'll get buffed a ton
>>582162562>look at my achievement as unemployed
>>582162016>>582162046>>582162123>>582162134>>582162169>>582162583>>582162585You think you're being funny samefagging this hardIt's not funnyJust admit Olga is better and should have been the real limited combatant
>>582162754Olga is just as mid tho
>>582162754Sorry
Olgabrats getting uppity again
At this point Arabella will get doujin firstJapanese people really love her unlike Olga fake hype.
>>582163128Olga is a fake brat she's too old pretending to be 12
>>582163012LOOK at thisLITERALLY admits to samefaggingArabella was a mistake
Olgasissies not beating the allegations
Hey quick question, I have sunk loads of pulls on the olga banner, I get a 5 star in 7 pulls. Will that carry over to the next banner and does pity carry over to the next banner?I already have Olga
>>582163952Yes it does carry over
>>582163952Everything carries over. However, you cannot use the same guaranteed on re-run banners
>>582162754>>582163012keks
>>582163952yes it carries over but why are you doing single pulls instead of 10 pulls, are you some kinda pussy
>>582161092Kanchou looks happy tho
>>582162754seethe more
>>582164057Beauty. Only issue is isn't the next banner a rerun of serenial?>>582164110Yeah but is the next banner a rerun? Haven't heard about new combatant>>582164129idk why its on 7 pulls
how do i build pity
>>582164204>is the next banner a rerun?Sereniel rerun yeah, she sadly washed out of the meta since a lot of enemies punish her with over-timer mechanics
>>582164204Not sure if it carries to the Sereniel or Narja banner. I would assume to the Narja banner since Seri is limited
>>582164657Narja banner is up atm and it hasn't carried over to that.>>582164571Yeah she's pretty weak. I saw a cobalt light fortitude build today though and that focuses on the lasers with haste so it seems pretty viable.
>>582164657A rerun banner's pity only carries to another rerun banner, but if they are available at the same, maybe Sereniel's is gonna be treated as a normal one and carry Olga's pity.
>>582163952I'm confused with this question, so many people asking this type of question and not only in hereAre there gacha games without pity carry over?
>>582164554a job
>>582164554by having low iq
>>582161092Finally made it to master with all E0s, this season is painI also ran out of hourglass and died on turn 6/8, so I could've probably scored higherIm gonna wait until the reset period tomorrow to try again
>>582164057Any more cuties like this?
>>582164057
just had tipheria drop for mewhats her deal
>>582167283
>>582167394the strongest protos simp out there
trickal collab
summertime saga collab
>>582167394Mika powercreep
>>582165121yes I think endfield
>>582167283https://x.com/Dr3aMoon4CZN
https://x.com/eki__holic/status/2088479980284207170
>>582165121eff gay oh
>>582168343czn winning
>>582168343girlfriend like this...please...
>>582168343>only 1 CZN cosplay, likely paid shillwhore
>>582168514Just be white and come to Asia, the foids here are free as long as you arent fat, maybe even if youre fathttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EByqXjBo6Ig
>>582161861>>582161957haha arabjeets
CZN cosplay JAV when?
>>582169773no u
>>582169106Are you fkin seriousWhy don't we just go to China wtf???
>>582170073>wecalm down rajeshit
are chinese women really that easy
>>582142947>>582143646reminder that this woman is a feminist that is still causing issues. look at her. look at that face. she hates (you)
>>582170931Is she the one from the famous interview?
>>582170931She looks like she smuggles pinching emotes into gachas
>>582170549yes
>>582170549As easy as your mom!! Source? Your mom.
>>582170931cute foid
>>582170931Why does the guy behind her look so nervous?
>>582170549what do you think?chinkcels needs a house, a career and literally pay the bride ~30k usd to have a chanceThat guy just needed to be white and foids would literally pay to sleep with him
>>582154669Modified kot
>>582171626holyi wish i were himfree harem
>>582171626>>582169106The next Genghis Khan...
>>582171723is that your signature or is the image stolen
>>582172346That would be Jazz Jack, the original artist that did these kots but with Kyaru from Priconne, I just drew Rita over his stylehttps://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/83098452The first guy who did this Kot kept the signature so I kept it too
>>582170931bro that’s a ghost. she doesn’t actually work there
>>582168343>Makeup covered pale face with fakeass giant eyelidsWhy do they keep doing this?
>>582174663>only ugly femoid cosplaying as OlgaKEK
>>582165054>Narja banner is up atm and it hasn't carried over to that.>>582165116Oh I didn't know Narja was actually currently running.That's weird, wonder if it carries over to Seri then but I guess it does.
>>582174761bro you're not funny and you can't make olga vs arab shitposts because you're not (me)
>>582172735>PriconneShould I watch that show?
i regret e4'ing arab
>>582176365Yeah I'm whiter than you
>>582177731post hand
need to breed Olga
>>582178004
>>582177731post bussy
>>582171723I am still not over the fact that we force rita back into her traumatic slave rags l.
>>582178004>>582178213>the best character in the game>at E6Olga-sama, why so mean?
>>582178362not quite, E6 Heidemarie is strongerE6 Olga beats E6 Tenebria though
>>582178296>"Rita, if you truly love me, you would wear these slave rags when I first found you for our date night, would you...?"
>>582178296We should get a couple of space pirate bros to visit Rei at night for the lulz.
>>582178503kek still mogged arabcucks
Hope I can never see any of you faggots again.
>>582178918>out 9f nowhere rent free
>>582179117>CBTPfft...
>>582176391no
>>582179329Why are hearts coming out of her ass
>>582179329I will rape and kill you Tiphsissy. You don't know who you're messing with.
>>582179329Tiphera's CBT session with her hands...
>>582179281>9fkek arabcucks cant even write
>>582172735I like your kots but you should commission him to make a Rita set
CZNbros...
>>582179743nnnNNNNOOOOONOW STELLA SORA IS WINNING???!?
>>582179743it literally is NOT FAIR FUCK SMILEGOOK
>>582179743Damn, how are our stella xisters doing lately?
>>582179848>>582179915winning the 300K / USD a month contest
>>582179743ngl might install. the controls on mobile are what annoyed me the most. pull economy is better than czn, too.
*coughs up blood*please... smilegate... save us...steam release... or playable skins... please anything... we are being left behind...
>>582179743I thought they were dying/dead...
>no steam release>no skins>no multiplayer/social features>no new game modesWhat did the new producer even make that shitty video?
Our game is too good for Steam anyway, we don't need steamjeets flooding our community.
>>582179743>game flop>release on Steamkek steam is just retirement home for dying games
The lion doesn't lower himself to join stream
>>582182068steam*
enjoying your no-rng content, xisters?
>>582182449its great thanks
>>582182449I love CZN becoming a complete slop trash cookie clicker game
>>582179930And they can keep going fine with that amount? damn, can't believe /czn/ doomjeets lied to me.
>>582182759it's passion project unlike czn
>>582182759Because Yostar doesn't mind funnelling into a passion project, just like SmileGate funnells the little money from CZN into E7 and Miresi. CZN as a 2D gacha doesn't need much money to keep up, after all. And it has ardent defenders, like the hopejeets itt, to keep it that way.
>>582183012>>582183289cope
>>582183361stfualso, stella sora would be in the top 30 gacha revenue but czn and /czn/ are responsible for destroying its reputation and revenue
4 weeks with nothing to do and hopejeets already on guard duty.
>>582183361Hit a nerve, huh ;)
Too bad the new PD already promised a major CHANGE in CZN.Doomposters have NOTHING on us
>>582184459Smilegenerous keeps winning, i'm having a blast!
>>582184459Why is Yook so smug
>>582183621This. Don't forget Star Savior too, CZN killed both SS
>>582184459>came out in a front of starving crowd>i will bring some food...in a month
>>582183621>>582184828It's a marathon, not a race. And CZN is out of breath for a while now. Trickcal already looped you.
>>582183621>>582184828czn is kinda based
>>582185107right?
>>582185295cool. So why are you here? Surely you're not playing a censored game.
>>582185295Tiph got censored? Fuck, I didnt knew that...
>>582185536because i agree with censorship. its why i play czn, retard. two of those censorships are thanks to me btw
>>582185727kek bodied that low IQ debatejeet
just the game and general rest in peace already
>>582185295Newbro here. This game is censored all along....?FUCK THIS. I'm moving to Muv Luv Girl Garden
>>582186075CZN is also filled with LGBTQ+ messaging and shipping thanks to this feminist woman >>582170931
>>582186275I'm trans and i love this, she's literally me.
judging from the state of this general... i'm getting concerned about the revenue chart...
>>582186616If you are trans you will love CZN. Welcome home.
>>582186275if it's just a woman then why she's not getting fired? it's all of them
>>582184983>Trickcal already looped you.>more popular in JP, KR and CN>make $50,000,000 in 3 monthsFVARKKKKK TRICKALGAWDS HAVE MERCY
>>582186890pretty sure she is the leader of the feminist cabal inside the dev team.
>>582187025so a bunch of femoids hold all the power, dictates everything and cant get fired? nah
>>582186965trickcal is insanely huge.
>>582186965whad da FAAAAAAKtrickal WON
>>582186965Trickbros...i kneel
>>582186965Where did CZN go wrong? We have nothing.
>>582188485we have each other.
>>582189965May i suck your cock?
>>582188485>>582189965we have together... but we also have HOPE to defeat the both chaos and nightmare!!
>>582191238esl strong TOGETHEROOK OOK EEK EEK *PAG**PAG**PAG PAG*
>>582191464FUCK YOU FAGGOTCZN FOREVERRR
Why is this general's quality so bad
>>582154834lmao this is as fake as the success of this game
>>582192827One schizophrenic talking to himself, other retards join in to reply because they're brainlets who got baited by the troll
>>582192827We're on the okay side, theres many worse gacha generals out there
>>582179743Even our less earning rival (on the memechart) is going to steam. And what are we waiting for instead?
>>582192827Another general victim of the irohaschizo
>>582142947>working with womenI'd kill myself
>>582193826This game was successful once, but the devs fumbled the bag when they nerfed Tressa and Cassius
>>582142947Is that Haru an employee?
>>582195440every game does well in the honeymoon phase
>>582195440>nerfed Tressa and Cassiusqrd?
>>5821965734* units outperformed everyone
>>582195440to me elasticity was the biggest offender. they killed Mei Lin and everyone loved her.
When you don't have a story to look forward to this is what happens.All long term successful gacha have a constant element, their story is anticipated by their players.
>>582197096damn, sounds like they need better QA.Cassius is still really strong, though, isn't he? Don't know about Tressa, just started.
https://files.catbox.moe/9nxobi.jpg
is the slopper anon still playing? he should do more mei lin
Renoa masturbates all day
>>582197748>>582198103mei lin is not this kind of girl
>>582199193She's literally part of an underground love cult. She's a lady in the streets but a freak in the sheets.
>>582199379lmao cuckshit game
>>582200028we love used goods though?
>>582200154sell me on it
Is the cucked Snowjeet here?
>>582201323Anon please sit down on the couch and tell us more about how snowbreak lives rent free in your head.
>>582197704Most gacha fill their downtime with side story events. Can't believe this one just thinks it's ok to have 5 weeks of literally nothing.
>>582202204Kek found you~
>>582202497Nope just a passerby noticing schizophrenia and calling it out. Feels good knowing I'll be in your head for the rest of the day though. ;)
>>582202349We had the beach event, but nobody here really cared
>he is talking to himself againyaaawn
Olga let me rape her tonight
>>582203646Can't rape the willing.
>>582186075just watched the muv luv garden trailer and they really raped this franchise havent they. there arent even nipple suits.
>>582204286>nipple suits?
>>582199193The Aromata must Love everyone.
>>582204353If you aren't familiar with muv luv you should ignore all spoilers and discussion about it and go read it. It's one of the best vn's and stories I've ever read. Try going in as blind as possible, don't even look at trailers or splash screens or anything. The less you know the better. You can get it from plenty of places and even steam if you are inclined but the steam version is censored and you'll have to go through the hassle of getting a decensor patch.
>>582195440>>582197535Nope, the game became less popular because people got bored, there is little to no challenge, the game is easy as fuck, now it's just a dopamine distributor
>>582205165You do know that no one who was actively looking at the page the moment you posted it can see it right? There is almost a zero percent chance anyone saw that pic so you might as well not have posted it at all. Just catbox it next time dingus.
>>582204353>>582205153you know how people schizo out about how the CZN story could have been good at some pointMuv Luv Trilogy (extra, unlimited, alternative) is that good version of it and is the template for tons of stuff since then, it's an 80 hour eroge that's also extremely violent and serious
>>582205467I hid it because the other poster said not to go in spoiled and I realised he had a point and the pic was a spoiler in a way, or at least would be to someone starting Extra. Muv Luv is something I am willing to treat with respect.
>>582203142They need to learn not to drop it all on patch day. At least wait a week for people to finish the season chapter. Give out welfare partners to grind for too.
>>582205742Well in that case good on you. I got lucky somehow and went into it completely blind just hearing the name and it sounded interesting. Was completely blindsided by the second game and it was amazing. Also I love the little references in the first game like Takaru's shoe in the bush showing that they had the whole idea in mind from the very first game. Wish I could go back and experience it again for the first time.
>>582205538>CZN story could have been good at some point>Muv Luv Trilogy (extra, unlimited, alternative) is that good version of itlmao not that poorly paced mess no. Rhr good version of CZN's story was always meant to be S;G with the story based around a time loop.
>>582205538Interdasting>>582205467>There is almost a zero percent chance anyone saw that pic Everyone uses 4chanx, anon
We need a Tower hard mode that only true gamers and grinders can beat, and the reward for clearing it is an animated stick save data, just to make the casuals mad as heck
>>582206912Muv Luv pacing is a mess but I like it more because its highs are way higher than S;G's.
>>582207278oh no. anyway more qol soon
>>582206912t. normie tourist
The only qol this game needs is remove elasticity
>>582207006>Everyone uses 4chanx, anonI do too but mine broke a while back doesn't show me deleted stuff anymore dunno why.
>>582208397The real truth is that it doesn't matter if someone is a normalfag if they still have better taste than you in the end.
>>582209919breedable Nono when?
>>582185295I don't get it
>>582186965>good vibes good memes make buxxThat's a rarity
>>582212354reading the guy story make me cry, he sold his house just to fund his passion project.
yay
>>582192827The game pisses you off with the shit story, owen, muh apologies, western propaganda, global abandonment, etc
>muh owenblud idgaf about owen, i think people who post owen are more annoying because both are shitposters going for low-hanging fruit
>>582213954The fact that owen posters already piss you off is the owen effect that could've been entirely avoided
>me being a retard could've been entirely avoidednuh uh
>>582192827It really isn't. I went to the wow general and the only good thing was the Olga poster
>>582214351The fact that you can even directly reply speaks volumes how you can't face the fact that Owen mindbroke every 1.0 player
>you can even directly reply
>>582213572congrats anon!
>>582214827Owen mindbroke me
>>582214389>I went to the toilet and the only good thing was a solid turd on the lid
>login>convert stamina to brain thingies>sweep sortie>get dailies>close stoveshitI feel like ever since I unlocked sweep for sortie and started delegating in chaos... I just don't find it enjoyable anymore, which is a given, as I'm not playing the game.Yet, the thought of doing something 'inefficient' such as manually doing sortie or chaos with my limited free time blocks me from doing anything else.I think this is a common story, one that starts the departure from the game, I just don't feel excited nor looking forward to just doing sweeping, nor do I feel any stimuli in doing them manuallyI've been playing just for 2 months
why did he stop posting mirsei and ao? too obvious?
>>582215351>game forces you to not play it>I just don't find it enjoying anymoreNo shit
>>582213572Yook
>>582215351>>login>>convert stamina to brain thingies>>sweep sortie>>get dailies>>close stoveshitI'm fine with this because the only thing I like is chasing rank on rift and once I'm safely secure, it's time for me to take a break and play other games before the next rift cycle arrives.
>>582206912s;g is more boring than reading extra.
>>582215351You can only gain levels by doing sortie normally so if anything sweeps are inneficient
>>582215351https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/14516981?boardKey=139247
>>582216081Incoming cope on why that doesn’t count
>>582215351>I've been playing just for 2 monthsShit game only gave me 1.4k hrs of con'ten't.
>>582217132Is that a display error for epic seven?
>>582217268I wish it was.
>>582215351Better games are upon us soon.
>>582217132the fact that E7 have better gameplay repetition than CZN make me laugh.
>>582217946PvP soon
>>582217946>PvP slurperoh no no no
At this point I think it's literally fucking impossible to complete a divine debuff HC30 chaos Core run with Mei Lin. Even with her shill buffs, she's so fucking shit it's insane.
>>582218303I tried to and got screwed too. Sortie is the worst roguelike ever, especially when you need to use 1 character to beat it
>>582217937bwo i will spend so much on not-hina...i've already set aside hundreds of euros just for her.
>>582216081>>582216809I didn't even know that, but is there a need to go over lv60? Does it give significant boosts? As a casual, I like moderate challenge that makes me naturally want to grow stronger and try again, but I'm not aiming to 'rank' or anything too time consuming. What I mean to say is that, I personally lack a 'mediocre' degree of stimuli now. I don't feel like removing the sweeps is the correct choice >>582216464 there should be something that is attractive enough to make me want to 'play' the game, that isn't however trying to become a ranker or similarSomething more modest, moderate, yet still stimulating enough naturally
I want to stick it into Olga's searing hot manko
>>582216464I honestly get sad reading the replies to that, these people don't even want to play the game
How good is Olga at E0? I could pity a second one and use the Omega Code for E2 but I'm not sure if I want to commit this hard.
>>582224192Olga is dogshit at E0 and goddess destroyer of worlds at E6
>>582224034i dont wanna play the game either. atp no matter what they do, skips are here to stay and it kinda sours manual play
>>582224192Don't she is fine at E0, you would only get the heal but that is really not that good and worth it. Either E0 or E6
>>582224330>>582224425Thank you
>>582224034People are still "playing" the game so it's working, sadly
>>582216464jamhax our savior
>>582225329more like those that love skipping than playing are the ones most paying. those with all the freetime are often just neets and thus have no money.nips pay and skip. so game ack..acc..accome...accomedates to that.
I want to fuck Eunie so bad it's unreal
>>582224034Yeah they just need to give more incentive to actually play. Extraction and Delegates are too strong.Delegates often feel even better than regular Chaos.Maybe make it so delegates only give 4* items.
>>582225702If they love spending so much CZN shouldn't have changed PD or give away 30 rolls (again) and backed that with empty promises (again)
>>582226086>Maybe make it so delegates only give 4* items.ACTUALLY add that and employ me as game savior. This idea is so fucking good holy shit.
You people who hate the skip thingies, I bet all you guys have 100% in season 2, right?
>>582226698w-well... you see...
>>582226698y-you first
>>58222669898%
No one wants to play skippers or not, the problem is the lack of story and good characters like in season 1 we had Yuki and Chizuru
>>582226236apparently they spend enough for the game to keep going in this direction. getting savedata will become even easier, as they said. changing directors had other reasons as well, though. but i dont disagree. they have to introduce a mode that is unskippable and hard to do that also requires peak condition savedata.
>>582227646full modes with save data are boring because you'll just repeat the same thing over and over every turnthey need to improve on sortie, make it like integrated strategies
>>582227646Considering how they fucked up the skins the game doesn't even cost a dollar to run
>>582227929They need to completely rework how the decks and combatants work, the game can't support the current deck sizes and make the gameplay interesting for farmed decks. You should not be able to cycle your entire deck with full buffs this easily
>>582228141>They need to completely rework how the decks and combatants workThat will never happen. They need a month to add 1 small feature to Sortie. A month. We need other solutions.
>>582228141>rework how the decks and combatants workBut that means nerfing
>>582228336Of course not. Did you forget the video? No more nerfs
Release CZN 2
>>582228336For one, they should have designed card draw and action points to be very restricted to certain cards and combatants. It's fucking retarded that most good controllers have card draw and AP/cost reduction stapled on a 0 cost card that you just dupe and it has some other effect as well. Using Tiphera as an example, she buffs, draws, give AP, gives shields, heals and deals damage, pretty much does everything in the support slot and including her cards pretty much guarantee that you can do all sorts of dumb shit. Why the fuck can she do everything? The whole concept of Seeds just doing all that for a 0 cost card that replaces itself in the hand is fucking retarded. Many other top tier supports do the same, or at least most of that. Cassius doesn't really give AP, but draws and buffs shitloads while Narja gives even better cost reduction while cycling shit.If the game was designed well, the AP, draws and buffs would be more restricted so that you have to actively choose to include an AP support and then as a tradeoff not be able to draw that well. But the divines are so badly implemented balance wise that most key spells cost 0, give mora boosts or AP in addition to the good effect. This then makes your entire deck be able to pretty much one cycle itself, making every fight the same
>>582229056tiphera does everything because she can't do any of it consistently
>>582229056>we should go back to season 1I agree
>>582229056divines are imo the real problem, there are very few innately draw-positive 0 costs (I can't name any besides repose but I haven't played in a while) but cost reduction, +AP, +draw for free breaks the game incredibly easilyremoving these divines would have huge repercussions though where to draw cards you have to use shop/seasonal cards very heavily and it feels like this is a change that had to be made eight months ago and now removing the broken divines would make the game feel very weird for a long time until more system changes were made and these devs are just not going to do anything that controversial
>>582217946By your standards you'd also call leeg and doturd good games
I still can't believe that they want you to spend over 200$ to guarantee a character. At E0. Like, what? And what exactly are YOU offering for me? One proper update every 3 months? Lmao.
>>582230335Yeah I think we are so far gone to the bad direction that they will not even try to fix the real issues with the game because the devs fear the players getting upset so much. The divines felt more balanced in the early seasons when it wasn't so easy to farm an OP deck, but now when they are just a commodity that everyone can get very easily, the cracks start to show. The draw, AP and cost reduction divines should be saved for only a few cards in the game, they just break the game completely and enable the degenerate deck building. Now they are in a position were they are pretty much forced to make the same type of combatants that ultimately play very same to the existing roster (meaning you try to 1 cycle their entire pool of cards) which then leads to needing to power creep the combatants to make people want to roll for them. It will likely culminate in the same thing as with Olga, where they lock her most broken shit behind Egos and future designs likely will reward duping combatants ever more than before.My fear which feels very real right now is that they will keep making the same lazy seasonal content until the game crashes and burns, because they are afraid to steer the ship in the right direction because of the backlash.
>>582233717i wonder why they dont do any surveys. its been a year. endfield did 3 surveys a week. and they course-corrected. say what you want, but endfield got much better in many aspects, minus the powercreep.
>>582233908But what the survey can do in regards to gameplay is very limited when they are unwilling to nerf combatants. It also looks like they are just making more skip shit because that's what people with bad impulse control want
Tiph doomposter love
>>582233717I am actually surprised how many different kits we have and how fun they are to play.I don't think all of these things are unfixable.
>>582186965People love the princess connect system and that game is dead so it's the perfect new thing to latch onto if you want more of that.
>>582234096>they are just making more skip shit because that's what people with bad impulse control wantyeh, prob, maybe. i dont know. devs know. they got all the internal metrics. how often ppl do kaosu, how often sorting. how often they skip. ppl prob dont even do delegations anymore. i dont. only those for weeklie poinzz and i escape dem for fastr poinzz.but those surveys would at least poal the playerbase. give en..encen...ensentive to do them and ppl will do them. ask questions. like>where do you want the game to go in terms of gameplay>more or less skips?>what new game mode, decide:>new combatants? want males?>more flatchests? haggysaggies?>how much are you willing to pay monthly? anything you wanna see in the shop?>how should we tackle deck acquisition?>are you okay with nerfs for a certain vision?just stuff like that. do multiple surveys, put the results online, watch the discussion happen. make a final poll and have some balls and get some changes done. they could fix the game in four months. and the process would be exciting.
>>582215351This is why arknights has been successful for so long. Aside from daily sweeps you have to do everything manually. If there is too much of that people bitch like in old school nikke. But if there is just enough it keeps people coming back. Like it or not the game was more engaging when you had to grind for your decks.
>>582233717>>582233908>>582234096>>582234813You all talk like this because you think they care. They don't care. They hate CZN. It was supposed to be their shipnigger game like E7. And Miresi to be their pander time-travel bullshit. They had it all planned out until Arca put a cigarette in their ass, sideways. Now they hate the game but have to do the bare minimum and pretend they love you, because it still makes too much money. It is common corpo shit. This is the status quo at its core.
>>582235043But you can sweep pretty much everything after you clear it once in AK.
>>582233908>i wonder why they dont do any surveys. its been a yearI do wonder tho why haven't they done a single survey, ever? In a full year? Seriously. Ah, i remember again:BECAUSE THEY DON'T FUCKING CARE
>>582235043Uh, you're actually likely partly right at least, the thought of playing AK always seems quite enjoyable because everything is always some kind of 'challenge', but at the same time, when I don't have time, I tend to put it in the back because of that very same reasonNevertheless, when I think about it, I think of enjoyable playingIt's closer to the truth than it is not, just probably not well calibrated with my scheduleIn the end, I'll return to mahjong
>>582235685And that first clear comes hard fast and continuously because there is always new content, there is always a minigame or something else to do. On top of that the fun challenging stuff like IS and CC can't be autoed. There is tons and tons of content you have to play manually if you want to do anything at all. It's obviously not fair to expect that much content from a small game like this but I'm just saying there are ways to make you play manually and have fun doing it.
Without love, it cannot be seen
>>582235953this. the casual shit, like rrsources and event stages; you can skip'em. endgame shit? gotta stap it up, kiddo, yer gonna hafta get down and dirdie
>>582235906That is true, I think a healthy gacha community needs challenging games and more peaceful games. I also don't always login to arknights. Sometimes I'm just too tired to put in that much effort. But I like that it's always there waiting for me if I want to stretch my brain a little bit. That's also why Trickal is so successful, they nailed the comfy vibes gacha gameplay.
CZN will last for a long time just like E7. They're giving out 30 pulls and people are dooming already.
>>582236627E7 barely scrapes by and we live in times where SG had enough of super creatives shit.
>>582236627>here's some free gibs to pacify retardskeep slurping their cock
>play when I want>skip when I don't>watch the worst posters cry about it
why do they even have the story skip feature? they should make you read through it, letting the entire voicelines play out, and then quiz you on it right after with you being unable to progress until you get 100%
Here we go the giga retard arrived...
>>582238787What a strange way to announce yourself…
I just got here and i saw cuckzn poster got mogged by arknights playerWhat happened?
https://x.com/0612_Nogitaro/status/2103131254388597071
>>582241347who gives a shit about arknots? it’s going to die when mirsei comes out
>>582213954Just like dev keeps bringing him back in every story except chapter 4 for some obvious reason
>>582224034There's no reason to manually clear chaos except for unlocking harder diff
I no diffed Owens juicy beehole last night, shit was so ca$h.
>>582246882HuGOD!
>>582244443No one asked you olgafags
I assed.
When do we get the female Hugo?
>page 10you would not exist without me. im about 8 different, prominent, posters
>>582256356>im about 8 different, prominent, postersWe know.
>>582256356just be normal
I was going to let it happen because it would have been funny for our last post to be some gay furry shit.
>>582257036>gay furryTo be fair it was hmofa
on the day of EoS and the imminent closure of /czn/, i will reveal it all. you will forever be paranoid on this website.
>>582250318After female Cassius.
>>582258905We already know it all bro. Unless you're also a janny or somehow a mod, there's nothing new under the sun.
>>582259590you have no idea. you probably like some of the posters that are me.
>>582259725The only poster I like is the anon who gives us AI Rita webms
>>582259870well, alright. im another AInon
>>582259725The only regular poster I like is HuGOD one
>>582260015s-stop naming posters that are not me!
>>582209131nta but>normie tourist with shit tasteEww, off yourself.
>>582260227Maybe all of your different personalities are bad
>>582260302or maybe...
Give me an OP image
>>582260497
>>582260497Make it when we hit page 10, no reason to make a new thread early
>>582260497i love cat-wife.
>>582259870what the..? protos, is this real?
>>582261335>MAN I FUCKING HATE AI>REAL ART IS MUCH BETTER>DRAWN BY REAL HUMANS WITH REAL HANDS>the real art in question:
>>582262393NTA, but yeah, the extremely rapid advancement of AI art and the speed at which it is generated has far exceeded the capabilities of like 95% of all art and artists.
>>582262393>>582262496>beginner artists are not allowed to post online anymore
>>582262393AI is a modern day Pandora's Box, only a small part of it is good and it's 99.99% garbage which isn't surprising since 99.99% of humans aren't notable figures in history.
>>582262393>>582262496Kek is this the "no-artwork-havers" cope? Oh, it is ;)
>>582262959>"no-artwork-havers" copeI don't know what you mean, but I paid $333 for a comm one time and it was not worth it at all. This was before AI though.
>>582262393
>>582263241meant for>>582263181
>>582263241did it bother you that much when that anon replied to you with that?
>>582262393No professional artist draws czn fanart? Lmaooooo
>>582263347I literally just don't understand what you mean. And I'm not a leftist either.
>>582260497This one?
>>582263806>>582263806>>582263806
>>582260497Got bunch of REAL art here. Which also looks much better than whatever soulless slop these AIfags try to push
>>582260721diana i love you