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Previous thread: >>581710958
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Full achievement list
https://steamdb.info/app/3216600/stats/

World list for people who care for the spoilers.
Quadratum
Underworld
Scala ad Caelum
Galaxy Far, Far Away
Toy Box
Haunted Mansion
Monochrome Origins
Savanna Central
Land of the Dead
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Days to look forward for KH news:
>Gamescom Asia (Oct. 29 - Nov. 1)
>The Game Awards 2026 (Dec. 10)
>Jump Festa (Dec.18 – Dec. 20)
>KH 25th Anniversary (March 28, 2027)
>Star Wars Celebration 2027 (April 1–4, 2027)
>Star Wars Day (May 4, 2027)
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>>582116097
KH4's prologue plot based on all trailers/ interviews, Missing Link cutscenes/ leaked opening, Melody of Memory, and the leaked KH4 steam achievements
>Sora is sleep for 7 days, as revealed by Strelitzia in the Reveal Trailer (Dive Into The Heart occurs here)
>Days Spent in Quadratum Days spent as a Dandelion have begun(Sora has a 7 day prologue in Quadratum that mirrors Roxas' KH2 prologue and joins Dandelion, other Dandelion members include Strelitzia, Sigurd, and Vali)
>Keyblade Wielders introduce concepts of Light/ Darkness, and the Lost Masters give that Darkness form so it can be defeated; Unreality itself distorts the Heartless in Quadratum
>Don't Forget the Advice; Received advice from the King of the Underworld - Short playable underworld segment of Donald and Goofy
>Sora sees phantoms of Donald/ Goofy then collapses
>Sora uses Luxord's wild card (or Diving Station/ Dandelion tech) uses manifest a distortion (portal into the Astral Plane), 2025 screenshot shows the streets of Shibuya having similar particle effects as Missing Link astral plane
>Sigurd gives Sora a warning that he may not be able to return to the world if he leaves; he leaves anyway
>Master of Masters, Xigbar (Luxu), Ava, and the other Foretellers operate in the background
>Xigbar (Luxu) encounters Young Xehanort (based on Dark Road cutscene, this is his 14th lifetime", Japanese line of Xigbar is "You somehow reverted to your younger form, as expected from you", as expected from you implies it is something Xehanort planned (backup plan)
>Sora encounters Young Xehanort (who eventually joins Dandelion)
>We see a hooded figure with falling raven feathers (which signifies Huginn and Muninn from Missing Link, Odin's Ravens, which can weaponize thought/ memory
>The Master's Plot; Fate has been set in motion - Master of Masters plan has begun
>Sora ends up in A Galaxy Far, Far Away (Star Wars)
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>>582116673
KH4's predicted plot part 2
>The Force is with the Light
Cleared Episode 1 of "A Galaxy Far, Far Away" (Something happens in the Star Wars World, and the Force sides with the Light)
>Somehow Sora ends up in the Haunted Mansion after Star Wars
>999 Ghosts cleared the episode of "Haunted Mansion"
>Mickey playable in Scala Ad Caleum/ Book World happens here; he searches books and learns about the Blank Era (Diving Stations, Distortions, Astral Plane)
>Era of Emptiness Cleared the episode of "Scala ad Caelum"
>This is a lotta new information; bet it'll find a clue to saving Sora now
>Donald and Goofy arrive in the Land of the Dead
>They look for him in an unfamiliar town, but keep missing him
>Sora teams up with Miguel & Hector
>Sora reunites with Donald and Goofy
>Sinking into Marigold: Cleared Episode 1 of "Land of the Dead"
>Sora is now back in reality; the trio goes back to Mickey. Sora was found, but now there's a bigger problem: using info he learned about Missing Link, traversal to and from Quadratum becomes possible
>Back in Quadratum, the Lost Masters launch a massive Heartless assault
>Riku arrives just in time
>Riku and Mickey join Dandelion
>Kairi is still training under Master Aqua in Merlin's time chamber
>Return Achieved return from "Quadratum"
>World of Beginnings: Cleared the episode of "Monochrome Origins"; the new Timeless River equivalent, and Maleficent/ Pete may get involved like last time; Oswald the Lucky Rabbit plays a role here
>After the weakened Pooh bond of KH3, Sora revisits Pooh to hang out with him and re-strengthens the bond of Pooh
>Pooh being a storybook character, Sora wonders if he is fiction
>Friends Forever cleared the episode of "100 Acre Wood"
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Why are we assuming that Donald and Goofy won't be showing up in Disney worlds prior to Coco again? I could believe it if it was all worlds that would get a second visit, but Haunted Mansion is meant to be a one and done deal. I don't think there's going to be a Disney world that Donald and Goofy won't have story involvement in.
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>>582118105
Their spectors from the trailer haunt him in the mansion
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>>582117552
KH4 predicted plot part 3
>Sora, Donald, and Goofy go to Savanna Central (Zootopia); Sora gets a humanoid lion form (call back to his concept art)
>A Foreteller in an animal mask is seen as a predator, and strange activity occurs; this leads to the trio leading into an investigation
>Thanks for the Investigation Help
Cleared Episode 1 of "Savanna Central"
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>Sora, Donald, and Goofy go back to Toy Box and join Woody & Buzz Lightyear
>This time it's based on a Toy Expo
>Rex is still obsessed with Yozora/ Verum Rex
>Sora knows Yozora is real now
>We learn Yozora's backstory (the true identity of the Nameless Star too); it mirrors Noctis from Final Fantasy Versus XIII
>This time, Yozora appears; Rex is shocked
>He still tries to "Save Sora", but Sora puts a stop to him
>He is not defeated, but Sora helps convince Yozora of something; Yozora stops fighting Sora, and Sora bonds with Yozora
>Yozora then returns to Quadratum
>Guided by Bonds Cleared the episode of "Toy Box"
>Return to Land of the Dead; stuff happens
>If We're Amigos, Someday for Sure
Cleared Episode 2 of "Land of the Dead"
>Return to Star Wars, stuff happens
>At the End of Hatred: Cleared Episode 2 of "A Galaxy Far, Far Away"
>Return to Savannah Central, stuff happens
>Wishes Come True by One's Own Hand
Cleared Episode 2 of "Savanna Central"
>Plot points that happen in between
>Lauriam & Elrena finding their sister/ joining Dandelion
>Kairi & Aqua joining Dandelion
>Isa training under Yen Sid to wield a Keyblade; the Sea Salt Trio + Isa begin on a quest to find Subject X
>Keyblade Graveyard Finale
>Huginn and Munin weaponize the Dark Seeker Saga trauma of the Sora & the Guardians
>Some of the Foretellers/ Xigbar (Luxu) also fought
>Xigbar reveals himself as Luxu
>Master of Masters reveals his true Master Plan
>Choice of Possibility cleared the episode of "Keyblade Graveyard"
>Game Clear witnessed the story's ending
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>>582118648
KH4 predicted plot part 4
>Dark Avenger Defeated one who desires vengeance (Secret boss number 1)
>The Last Name Heard Defeated the final standing obstacle (uses the kanji for "Kara"
>In the Birth by Sleep Ultimania, Nomura said he wanted Vanitas' name to give the impression of “empty/emptiness.” He chose the Latin word vanitas, and specifically pointed out that the Japanese kanji 空 can be read as sora (“sky”) or kara (“empty/blank”). For Vanitas, he explicitly said the intended reading was kara, not sora.
"-- How did you think of Vanitas' name?
Nomura: *I wanted to give him a name that meant "empty", and so I looked for something that would be appropriate. When I was searching I found a word that meant "emptiness" in Latin, "Vanitas". It looked a lot like Ventus' name, and in Japanese it has the kanji for "sora" in it, so I thought it was perfect. Of course in Vanitas' case it doesn't mean "sora [sky]" but "*kara [empty]" [These two words are written with the same kanji, but are said differently and have different meanings.]
>Theory: Vanitas is the secret boss, but as a True Darkness, "Empty creature from Ventus' riven, to you, the name Vanitas shall be given", Vanitas was the name Xehanort gave him, but his true name is Kara. In KH3 ReMIND, the True Darkness escaped Ventus and snuck inside Sora
>Outstanding Patrol Officer: Completed all requests in "Quadratum" (basically completing side quests in Quadratum if you wanna 100 percent the game)
>Ghost Housekeeper: Completed all requests in "Haunted Mansion" (Keeping away the ghosts)
>Desert City Contractor
Completed all requests in "A Galaxy Far, Far Away"
>Memorable Work: Completed all requests in "Land of the Dead"
>Supremely Good Helper: Completed all requests in "Monochrome Origins"
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>>582119165
>>582118648
>>582117552
>>582116673
Why are you're STILL spamming this chatgpt crap that has been deleted MULTIPLE times in previous threads?
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>Civilian Outreach
>Complete all requests in Quadratum.

I wonder if you get Sigurd, Vali, Strelitzia as your party members to fill in for Donald and Goofy.
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yeah i aint reading all of that
im more interested in whats the deal with the trash collection in quadratum
is it going to be sho minamimoto or Wall E?
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>>582119165
KH4 predicted plot part 5:
>Animals' Consultant Completed all requests in "Savanna Central"
>Toy Expo Steering Committee Member
Completed all requests in "Toy Box"
>Personal Favorite
Filled a certain rooftop in Quadratum with cleaning staff treasures
>Scala can be revisited by Sora, and the library helps newcomers recap the entire x-series
Bibliophile: Acquired all Key Books in "Scala ad Caelum"
>Speed Reader Overshadowed all time attack records in "Scala ad Caelum"
>Imagineer Planet is an explorable Gummi Space based on theme park attractions
>Planet Builder Cleared any mission in "Imagineer Planet"
>Planet Traveler Cleared all challenge planets in "Imagineer Planet"
>To the Beginning of Imagination Cleared Gummi route "Back in Time"
>Star Pilot Defeated all 7 bosses appearing across the Gummi routes
>Royal Chain - The new Coliseum/ Mirage Arena equivalent
>Gambit Defeated 10 rivals in Royal Chain
>Pieces from Missing Link return, in Missing Link, pieces are memory fragments from the astral plane, they can contain a character from any point in time based on their memory and their power can be manifested through it, when Sora's heart connects to it, the Pieces/ Link pieces act as this game's Summons/ Link
>Piece Collector Collected all pieces
>Lucky emblems return
>Hidden King Discovered all Lucky Emblems
>Treasure Hunter Discovered all treasure chests across the world
>Forest-Wandering Conductor Cleared all songs in the "Forest Orchestra" minigame (musical mini-game in Hundred Acre Wood since the English achievement calls this achievement "Hundred Acre Conductor")
>Raft Angler Fished up all fish and dropped items in the "Pooh and Raft Fishing" minigame
>This confirms Hundred Acre Wood is bigger than KH3's single Candy Crush mini-game
>Well's Bottom Hype Man Cleared the "Mysterious Well Present" minigame with a score of 40,000 or higher
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>>582119359
Not Chatgpt, I use the achievments plus my predictions
>>582119165
>Cleared all challenges in training
>Enemy Slayer Defeated 1,000 enemies
>Summon Specialist Triggered any Special Finisher using Link Pieces (further confirmation that Pieces/ Link Pieces are KH4's summon system
>Enchanter Used Donald's Warlock Fusion for the first time
>Magnet Catcher Stole a weapon from an enemy for the first time using Goofy's Magnet Grab
>Build Master Unlocked all Scrap Actions and Build Finishers for any Keyblade
>Build Expert Discovered 5 Special Builds
>Based on the Scrap/ Build Mechanic for KH4
>Role Tuner Matched Sora's current role and brought the total Role Point value to 100 or higher
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Hidden Value Obtained the highest rarity equipment (armor/accessories) through item appraisal
>Ultima Weapon Obtained the "Ultima Weapon" Keyblade (The Ultima Weapon Keyblade returns)
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It's definitely not going to be the movie, as funny as having Eddie Murphy as a party member would be. It's just difficult for people to conceptualize KH doing a Disney world that isn't based on a specific film or film series.
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>>582119359
He’s our collective trauma manifestation.
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>The Steam Achievements confirm KH4's Hundred Acre Wood is bigger, with an orchestra, a fishing mini-game, and a mysterious well mini-game
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What is this true darkness Vanitias thing we know they will look like. Dark Inferno was supposed to be a true darkness form.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=truf3eOe-eU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xM9jefq34Y

This spoils KH4's plot, why don't people watch it?
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I'm doing series replay (and 100% in each game) and KH3 pleasantly surprised me this time.

Last time I played it on PC release I was kinda disappointed in story and had a lot of troubles on crit but now I'm feeling like is polar opposite.
Even hardest story fights where you forced to use weak characters like Riku feel ez.

Also last portion of the story feels better too. The whole sequence where you die and then chase Lich while creepy version of destati plays in background was really eerie and surreal. Love it.

Never expected myself to like KH3 this much.
However there is still one big downside to KH3. Frozen world. Holy shit it's bad. Really bad.
10 times worse than Atlantica and Monstro in KH1 combined.

Also my opinion on other KH games changed too after replay:

1. I never really liked KH1 but now it's in S-tier for me because of heavier more grounded combos and amazing magic system.
2. For KH2 I used to think this game was the goat but now it feels just ok.
3. BBS used to be my most favorite game in the series, I bought PSP just for it because at the time there was no good emulator, but after playing it again now that I'm adult I see how broken and weak it is. Kinda shocking. I guess as a PSP game it felt great but now on PC, compared to other big KH games and AAA releases it feels meh. Still, it gave us Nimoy as Nort and best girl Aqua, so it's existence is justified
4. DDD was already not my favorite but on this playthough I just dropped it. Fucking garbage. On tech side it's better than BBS but somehow it feels way worse to play.
5. Re:Coded is overhyped. Yeah, base gameplay and matrix is outstanding but the game constantly forces you into gimmicky stages and boss fights that don't utilize your moves and gear so it feels just as shitty as when you play Riku in KH3. However this is only issue if you play on Crit. If you play on normal or use guide and know when those gimmicks appear to lower difficulty in advance then it's no biggie.
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>>582124416
>Re:Coded is overhyped.
It's weird, isn't it? Like, objectively, it's underrated. But the way people praise the command deck gameplay makes it feel overrated. It's a weird ass game.
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>>582124416
Based replay chad. I don't share all of your opinions but I agree with a fair amount. DDD for me is one of my favorite games in the series, I can't get enough of it, but I agree with your KH1 take, I love its magic system, it's the best one in the franchise and I'll die on that hill. 2 is a let down in its level design, and it's funny because I didn't care much about that factor but the older I get the more I do. Have you done COM/ Days? Or are you going out of order and just playing in whatever order? Re: Coded is the game I have the least experience with but thanks to Melon Mix I'm going to replay it every year. I might just use my completed save and ramp the hp down and damage up and call it a day.
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>>582126091
>Have you done COM/ Days?
I saved Re:CoM for the last. Or you meant GBA CoM? Maybe after finishing platting all games that are on Steam.

I don't plan to replay Days. Gameplay sucks, story is a cheap tearjerker, Xion is the horrible self-insert for that novel writer and a bad character overall
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This is my most hated game in the series (even more than UnionX, at least it had good story).
I really regret wasting my time playing it on Proud instead of beginner.
Leechgrave and Ruler of the Sky are the worst story bosses in the series.

Never touching it again unless real remaster with updated combat is released.
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>>582127372
>Xion is the horrible self-insert for that novel writer and a bad character overal
NGMI, can't imagine having taste this shit.
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I listened to Missing Link's music for the first time outside of Dearly Beloved and now I want to throw a burning tire into SE's offices for not just doing the minimum amount of effort it would take to make the game work without gps features.
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>>582124416
>>582126091
KH1 and KH2 feel like equal compliments. its like zelda OOT vs MM, I can't choose.
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>>582116097
So the only thing new is [spoilers]Quadratum, Star Wars, Haunted Mansion, and last world[/spoilers]? That's kinda disappointing.
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average Kingdom Hearts fan discussion
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>>582135039
Zootopia and Coco don't count as new?
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>>582135434
I thought Underworld and Land of The Dead were referring to Hercules and the final world. The latter is supposed to be Coco?? And which one is Zootopia?
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>>582130494
KH1: story > gameplay
KH2: gameplay > story
Each has its strengths.
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Simple and Clean > Hikari
Sanctuary <<< Passion
Face My Fears = Face My Fears (JP)
Don't Think Twice < Chikai
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I just need a new KH to sink my teeth into. But god damn is 2027 a stacked year, it feels like the last year of gaming considering all the external shit happening.
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>>582140019
Go get KHmelonmix working and play Days again. (and tell me how you made it work, I can't even find whatever it is melonmix does in the folder I downloaded)
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So what does the "I can't believe they force you to play handheld games to undestant the whole story!" gang think about the plot of 4 being dependant on a cancelled mobile game?
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>>582141041
I think it's based. Because I personally went out of my way to learn about all the lore in games I haven't (can't) played. That means I put in more effort than the people who bitch about not knowing what's going on and that makes me BETTER THAN THEM.
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Good thing Nomura had the foresight to put Missing Link lore into KH4 without even knowing it'd be cancelled.
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>>582138492
BASED BASED BASED!!!!!
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>>582142040
>I think it's based.
No not based
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>>582142040
Having to go out of your way to find out a story that's been canned doesn't make the story any better.
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>>582127372
>I don't plan to replay Days. Gameplay sucks, story is a cheap tearjerker, Xion is the horrible self-insert for that novel writer and a bad character overall
>.
>This is my most hated game in the series (even more than UnionX, at least it had good story).
>I really regret wasting my time playing it on Proud instead of beginner.
>Leechgrave and Ruler of the Sky are the worst story bosses in the series.
Extremely based and high iq take
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>>582129369
Hope that they will recycle the assets for a missing re:link.
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>>582146924
It does if I like it.
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>>582105661
You are a crazy man.
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>Dood, it's such a fucking shame that Missing Link was cancelled. Nyooooooooooooooo!!!! I'm so sad!
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Achusally, I was told that Heartless are hearts
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>>582158026
Emblem heartless are made of human Hearts through a method not completely understood yet but appears to be somewhat parasitical (Emblem Heartless kills a human, heart exposed to darkness, heart becomes another Emblem) while Purebloods (Shadows, Darkballs, Invisibles and Darksides) are Darkness manifested.
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>>582127372
Days is a case where it's definitely worth playing once, but never again. The gameplay sucked and the story sucked. Xion is by far the worst Kingdom Hearts character based on her showing in the game. I know the manga is meant to have improved her character but that will never change how she is in the games.
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How did Aqua eat and use the bathroom in the Realm of Darkness for 10 years?
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>>582160191
Aqua was only stuck in the Realm of Darkness for a few hours of Realm of Darkness time, she just has a REALLY weak will.
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What is the name of the track that plays when Sora is about to be Norted in DDD but Axel saves him?
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>>582162507
Shaded Truths
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fx7D69fpvm0
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>>582162813
Thanks, I couldn't find it because it only starts 10 seconds in
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>....Roxas.
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Sora is the protagonist
But he isn't the main character
Idk how to explain this ngl
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>Bro, Disney worlds are important as fuck and are totally not filler bro. You totally cannot remove them 100% without affecting the story
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>>582166640
that doesn't necessarily mean they're not important to the story.
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>>582156485
>could have cut down the affinity grind substantially if I had farmed Dream Candies for creating spirits with 3 levels of extra affinity
>decided to be cheap and settle for using Drop-Me-Nots, which only give 1 extra level
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ROXAS
YOU HAD TWO KEYBLADE
HOW THE FUCK DID YOU LOSE TO SORA
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The last time I played 2FM was back it needed emulation
The exclusive scenes are voiced wtf
Did they actually get english VAs to voice them for the HD collection? That's amazing
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>>582167654
because 1 sword is more defensive than 2
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>you really are his nobody
>you're not suppose to exist
>to sora's half, of course

>no roxas, you're you, we're not the same. I wanted to tell you that. that you deserve as much as I do, to be your own person
Brother
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>>582167814
Awesome, right?
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"Hockomonkey" sounds like a slur
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>>582170384
Dream Eaters are so unique, wish we saw more of them
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>>582171091
lewd
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>>582171091
Poor Luxu. Didn't even get invited to join in.
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>>582167814
Which begs the question
Why isn't hjo using his kh2 voice when he could do it when 2.5 came out.
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>>582167814
A pity they couldn't do the same for the unvoiced scenes in 1FM
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>>582150648
I miss Way to the Dawn
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>>582119815
hoping for Magia and Aegis
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if your optical receptacles did not get wet during this scene, then i'm afraid you are brown. sorry but i dont make the rules.

of course nomura doesn't know how to be subtle and had to ruin it later on with having sora disappear
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6AkwT6x_WE
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Man, formchanges outside ultimate and double have very slow attacks
Wish they were faster
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>>582178915
Mine didn’t. Sorry I hated it because it was engineered for that purpose. And I don’t like manipulative writing. Roxas and Xion becoming “their own people” is retarded. The whole point was that they were parts of Sora and, in Roxas’s case, Ventus. Just hand waving this away and saying they can live as permanently as replicas (something previously depicted as existentially horrifying) was cheap af. It’s sappy. Fake garbage. Days was better as a bittersweet story. Roxas would’ve been happier to learn about his past as a human rather than the artificial bullshit life he had in Twilight Town. Ven woulda had a better arc. The real sea-salt trio should’ve been Lea, Ventus, and Kairi remembering their artificial selves but moving on in real lives.
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>>582178915
they invited too many up there, they're gonna get caught and told to come down
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>>582180427
All writing is inherently manipulative, that statement means nothing.
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>>582179806
Uχ one day.
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>>582180801
> All writing is inherently manipulative, that statement means nothing.

No, Nomura’s writing is almost always genuine and from the heart. Days was actually genuine. And it was telling a bittersweet story about characters who wouldn’t be together forever but who would always remember each other. Roxas and Axel would meet again in the next life as their human selves, Lea and Ventus. The Days trio was never supposed to be the same as the BBS trio, who were created to be reunited permanently. Nomura was *pressured* to conform the Days story to the same standard as the BBS story for fanservice. He said he was hesitant until the last minute but acquiesced bc the FANS felt too strongly about it. That is why the writing felt manipulative and fake. That garbage FANFIC got no tears from me.
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>>582180020
I don't think I've ever used blitz form, is that one not fast?
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>>582180427
eh I played Days too so it was nice seeing them back up there again
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can't believe they charged people 30 bucks for the DLC when it's just reusing the same cutscenes
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>>582184096
Data fights and Yozora tho
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>>582184096
Yeah they should've charged $60, made it a separate release, and called it "Final Mix".
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namine is so erotic it's not fair
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>>582180552
alternatively one of them is gonna fall and die
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Second visits will be with Kairi, Donald and Goofy. This time Kairi will pilot the Gumi ship. It's our time Kairibros...
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>>582127372
I agree on all points, I could never imagine myself replaying Days as well.
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>>582157390
>not playing the Japanese version for better gacha, events and original script
ngmi
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>>582195964
both versions (ww and jp) were going to be the same though (although they'd probably have separate apps for whatever stupid reason square does that)

the japanese localization files are in the assets that were downloaded for the global CBT version after all
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The lore significance of this thing is gonna be massive once we play through the Monochrome Origin episode.
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They really should address the darkness in Sora
That boy is not normal
What the fuck happened when Xehanort took his light
HE GOT HIS ASS BEAT BY A BOY THAT RARELY USES DARKNESS WITH DARKNESS
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>>582198961
Do you think the Monochrome Origins world will feature another one of these?
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>>582184796
At least if it was a Final Mix they would have made it so you didn't need to play through the entire main game to get the good combat moves instead of shitty base game ones.
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>Page 9
Nintendo has FORGOTTEN Kingdom Hearts
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>>582202012
> Do you think the Monochrome Origins world will feature another one of these?

Maybe. Or at least show the origins of it and it’ll have deeper lore. I think it has to mean something. The portal to the Lingering Will was found in the Hall of the Cornerstone.
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>>582178915
You are a malleable tool
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Kingdom Hearts 25th Anniversary Exhibition key art has been revealed.

Starts February 7th until April 4th, 2027
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>>582209194
I would like riku's brave heart far more if it had jagged edges like fenrir
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>>582209194
Xion needs her own keychain and outfit
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>>582211375
She does have an outfit
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>>582211375
> Xion needs her own keychain and outfit

Then she shoulda been designed as a unique character from the start. But she wasn’t. You can never turn a memory clone her into a unique character.
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>>582209194
>February 7th until April 4th, 2027
God SE's going to be so obnoxious about also marketing FF7 during this time. No doubt they can do both, especially with Disney, but still.
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>>582211560
I honestly forgot because it's not too different from the coat.
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>>582211770
>DOOD IT'S BLACK SO IT'S NOT DIFFERENT
Lmao
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>>582211880
Enough to be memory holed when it only appears in a group shot for 5 seconds? for sure.
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>>582209194
Why does Aqua still have Master's Defender? Reused render?
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>>582212385
Because that's her keyblade
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>A Galaxy Far, Far Away is going to double as a desert and forest level with Tatooine and Endor.
Reminds me of MGSV.
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Uhm... Actually no one even knew what the fuck Xblade is
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Friend just got me KH on Steam so I'll be playing it for the first time. They also recommended getting OpenKH, but they said it was vibecoded as fuck now and to get an older version. I don't know what version to get though since there's like a gazillion on their Github. Is it even worth it or should I be fine without it?
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>>582214278
no anon, it will feature all 9 movies and we can even visit every building in Coruscant
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Uh huh
Why does ultimate form have the same magic as base sora?
that's pretty lame, thought it'd be like final form with multiple fires/blizzards/thunders
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>>582217002
>they
Why dod you referring to a male as "they"? It's "he"
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>>582217002
Your friend is a moron anon, modern programming is using countless libraries to make your life easier, which you could argue is also some sort of vibe coding, but these are now touched by ai one way or another so everything after 2022 is affected and will continue to be affected.
That being said, you only need OpenKH if you want to use the mod loader to play with mods. You can also use Re:Fined which has some nice QoL changes but of course the steam release is also perfectly fine to be played as it is.
The first game is prone to crashing, so save frequently
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>gets xblade from mhx
>don't get it post-game
>not even as a skin for ultimate form
bro
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>>582219325
Is bitching all you do?
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>>582219325
just mod it?
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>>582201221
Why do we hate him again?
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>>582219907
>we
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>>582219907
There was a common sentiment that he was too old to play Sora but that got debunked this year on D23 where he showed that he can sound 1:1 like KH2 Sora if he wants
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>>582220808
What I wouldn't give for KH2 to stop having Sonic level autism with its fans
People get older, simple as
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>>582216350
MoM lied to him.
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This bitch should have more lore significance. Fairy Godmother can teleport you to the Final World. Merlin can train Keyblade Apprentices. Yen Sid is a retired Master. Even the Three Good Fairies power up Sora’s clothes.
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>nobody could beat riku
You literally did twice in a row
In his dark suit with ansem helping him to boot
In the same world
In the span of like 20 mins
And the second one happened right after malificent
What are you talking about
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>>582226071
well maybe she would have mire significance if missing link wasn't canceled

i don't think she did though, i forget if she even showed up
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>>582227134
That wasn't Riku, that was Ansem. Got it memorized?
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>>582226071
She can literally create hearts from nothing, more OP than Merlin's world and time travel at will.
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>my favourite jrpg podcast Resonant Arc did a KH4 episode
>first few seconds is a recap of what they'll talk about
>random guest dude pops up sperging about how they shouldnt have gone to realism
>main podcaster guy honest legitimately asked if he has to play the rest of the games before KH4 to understand it
>5 seconds out of 1 hour and 45 minutes and I had to stop watching because I know my autism would go nuclear

what is it about KH that makes people retarded? This isn't just stupid random guys it's those guys who made a giant podcast/analysis about esotecism and Xenogears and talked about Nier which has like fucking stage plays and shit.
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>>582226071
I always thought it was funny how Haley Joel Osment met a version of her in the movie A.I. Artificial Intelligence in a subtly implied dream sequence and the decades later DDD. It really makes me wonder if that movie is what got Nomura to want HJO, but I dont know if the date lines up.

Kubrick had a lot of weird Disney stuff now that I think about it. The first time I heard Mickey Mouse March was Fullmetal Jacket and there's tons if disney Easter eggs in that and the shining.
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>>582226071
Pinocchio was going to be I Days. I don't think theh would have done anything too heavy but I would imagine Xion and Pinnochio and the Blue Fairy have obvious parallels and would have gotten some scenes together. It's a shame it never happened it would have made the heart coming back thing in DDD more foreshadowed.
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>>582229550
too lore heavy*
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>>582228697
>what is it about KH that makes people retarded?
Their brain breaks when they have to take the Mickey Mouse game seriously in the age of peak cynicism.
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Theory, there is nothing under the Master of Masters hood... His name is "Kara" for "emptiness"
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>>582230084
... except we have already seen that he has a face
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>>582230258
Classic Nomura misdirection
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>>582230084
To time travel you need to abandon your body
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>>582229550
> Pinocchio was going to be I Days. I don't think theh would have done anything too heavy but I would imagine Xion and Pinnochio and the Blue Fairy have obvious parallels and would have gotten some scenes together. It's a shame it never happened it would have made the heart coming back thing in DDD more foreshadowed.

The cut Pinocchio world always made me sad because like, it fit Days so perfectly. I think Halloween Town added little to the lore, it coulda been cut. I remember seeing the Pinocchio files datamined and they had a Days Q and A on the old Square Enix members site. I was monkeymonkey. Man, I’m old.
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>>582230084

Dont trust names

>Heartless have hearts
>Nobodies have bodies
>Sora is the sky but he walks on the ground
>Riku is the horizon but he uses dark portals to travel without passing the horizon
>Kairi means ocean but she's from a garden
>Organization 13 aren't very organized and has more than 13 members
>Xehanort aka No Heart X has more than 13 hearts
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>>582230057
>Their brain breaks when they have to take the Mickey Mouse game seriously in the age of peak cynicism.

This is fucking depressing and I tried explaining why 3 or 4 times and couldn't find out the best way to put it. Kingdom Hearts was always about childhood wonder vs adult cynicism. It's just to painfully tragically ironic.
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>>582229253
> Kubrick had a lot of weird Disney stuff now that I think about it. The first time I heard Mickey Mouse March was Fullmetal Jacket and there's tons if disney Easter eggs in that and the shining.

A lot of people don’t know this but there’s a lot of stuff floating out there linking to Disney and MK Ultra and Illuminati shit. I think Nomura probably gets inspiration from a lot of that stuff. Which is cool.
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>>582230084
>emptiness
Ah so it was Xemnas all along
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>>582221193
>People get older
how dare they, don't they know i don't like it?
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>>582209194
Naminebros...
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>>582231964
Damn walt really likes those titties
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It’s funny that this wound up fitting FF7 and Fabula Nova Crystallis so well.
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>>582219907
Didn't even know he was hated desu
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>>582219907
he is a drug addict
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>>582231964

>Shadowy cult ruling the world from behind the scenes sacrificing children and tons of satanic goat shit with a magic all seeing eye

I can see that.
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Never forget
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Wtf???
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>>582209194
>Starts February 7th until April 4th, 2027
>>582116179
>Star Wars Celebration 2027 (April 1–4, 2027)
It's happening. Star Wars world reveal during soon
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>>582241521
I'm still a TGA believer for Star Wars
Mostly because they love having trailers for Star Wars games, and KH can do another bait and switch
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>>582237931
>Strelitzia means Birds of Paraide
>Paopu fruit means Paradise of Promise
>3. Paradise (never actually used as anything or dialogue in KH2 iirc)

What does it mean Nomura what does it fucking mean?!
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>>582241521
>>582242185
I raise you both may 4th 2027
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What will Xion's role be in KH4? Will she be important?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vI6zxlNxawk
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>>582242272
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>>582242272
Nomura thought of Sora fading away before KH1 was ever released
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ori-1zhIgcY
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>>582242272
>>582242847
And Another Side, Another Story, despite being The World That Never Was Dark City, is like an early version of Quadratum... An industrial out of place city
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KH2 is just the prototype script for KH4, think about it... Nobody, non-existence, the industrial city with skyscrapers, KH4 is just a fully realized KH2, we got Quadratum, and dealing with fiction (aka non-existence)... KH2 and KH4 are basically the same thing... What makes something and someone real
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>>582242272
Spectre from KH CoM is the earliest Strelitzia foreshadowing
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>>582242462
> What will Xion's role be in KH4? Will she be important?

No nigga. Why do you think she and Roxas got so much focus in KH3? They both replaced two whole guardians of light. What’s the point of giving them that kind of resolution if it’s never allowed to stick? How is Nomura supposed to focus on all the new Dandelion characters who actually are relevant to the plot if he can’t ever leave behind these old ass characters that have been milked dry?
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>>582236019
this design makes more sense for Rex to confuse Sora for than Yozora does. it's a little fun that Not Sora/Yozora is doing a Buzz Lightyear-esque dumb grin. the art gives me more western game vibes than Verum Rex obviously does.
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>>582243715
Huh. I never noticed that.
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>>582244652
They keep making the same mistake!
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Master of Masters is not a human; he is the primordial manifestation of the void... The eye in the gazing eye is literally his eye
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9R2TMKd9Zz0
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>>582228697
>>random guest dude pops up sperging about how they shouldnt have gone to realism
He is the dude that did the KH lecture and a huge kh2fag that hates kh3.
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>>582228697
>>582246671
God damn it's BestGuyEver
Avoided that video of his like a plague, and knew I had good reason to
Straight up smug dudebro energy
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>>582242462
I doubt she'll even show up outside of seeing Lea and Isa off. Her and Roxas have no real reason to be there other then showing up to save the day when Lea and Isa are about to get killed or something.
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>>582246245
Master of Masters invented free form jazz.
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>>582235547
Par for the course in acting. That and being molested, probably both.
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I just noticed that my brain either calls it "358 over 2" or just "days" but never the full title.
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>>582250563
I shorthand it to Days when I talk about it but mentally it's 358/2 Days in my head.
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The true identity of the Master Of Masters
Master Of Masters is not a human. He is the primordial manifestation of the void... The eye in the gazing eye is literally his eye. There is a reason that eye is so demonic looking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9R2TMKd9Zz0
Besides No Name, other Keyblades have the Gazing Eye too
Void Gear (Vanitas' Keyblade)
Soul Eater/ Way To Dawn
Chaos Ripper
The theory is all of these eyes can see into the future, like an all seeing eye
There is nothing under the hood. One of the secret bosses based on the Japanese leaked achievement list is "The Last Name Heard", and it uses the kanji for "Kara", lets assume his true name is Kara
One of the achievements in KH4 is also called "Era of Emptiness"
The Keyblade he passed down to Luxu? The No Name Keyblade
What's under the hood? Nothing.
What about the KH3 secret ending? With the chin? He is using a vessel (or possibly Yozora's true body) to walk around in Quadratum; he's gotta fit in with the people there
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>>582253341
The Nameless Star said Yozora's form has been replaced with another, and Yozora said "This is not what I really look like"
Now let's go over the Master Of Masters theme... It sounds like a demonic organ & choir which goes along well with a bubbly, artificial persona
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mah8pRo5fo4
He is an ancient primordial cosmic entity mimicking human emotion/ expression
What's in the black box? Nothing, yet, which goes over the whole void/ emptiness thing. The Black Box is meant to contain something in the future, an inverse of Pandora's Box
What about his true goal? Total cosmic annihilation
What about the plan to wipe out 13 True Darkness? Manipulation. Look at the plot of Kingdom Hearts X. The player and Keyblade Wielders believed they were protecting the light from the world gathering Lux, when all they did was actually steal the light from the world.
Why MoM/Kara created the Dandelions if his end goal is total annihilation
If MoM is Kara (the Void) and wants absolute cosmic annihilation ($1 - 1 = 0$), why bother saving the Dandelions in Union χ instead of letting the Keyblade War just wipe out the world right then?
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>>582253341
>>582253489
It comes down to four main reasons:
Darkness winning isn't the same as the Void. If the ancient war destroyed all Light, the universe wouldn't collapse into nothingness... it would just become a stagnant wasteland ruled by formless Darkness. To get absolute zero (1 - 1 = 0), you need equal amounts of Light and Darkness colliding at max momentum. The Dandelions were just Kara vaulting a supply of pure Light to smash against the 13 True Darknesses later.
They were Trojan Horses. Formless Darkness couldn't time-travel or cross realities on its own without losing its shape. It needed human vessels. By having Ava send the Dandelions forward, MoM used kids like Ven, Lauriam, and Elrena as biological cargo ships to ferry hidden fragments of True Darkness into the modern era and Quadratum.
It cracked open Unreality. Sending thousands of wielders into the Unchained dream world (made of memory/data rather than physical matter) created the first major tear in the boundary separating physical Reality from Quadratum.
It kept Ava completely blind. If Ava knew the Lux collection was a setup to groom vessels, she would’ve revolted early. Giving her the "noble" mission to protect the Dandelions weaponized her empathy, keeping her too busy to question the Black Box or the Foreteller drama until the war was already inevitable.
Basically, saving everyone wasn't an act of mercy. They were just fuel, cargo ships, and a distraction to keep the board active for the actual endgame.
Kingdom Hearts as a series show us time and time again how important hearts are and connection.
Why the Void (Kara) is the literal anti-thesis of Connection in KH
In Kingdom Hearts, Connection is the ultimate law of existence. 1+ 1 = Heart..
Having bonds gives you identity, anchors your memories, and keeps you from fading into non-existence (it’s literally how Sora returns in KH1 and how lost wielders get pulled back to reality).
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>>582253341
>>582253489
>>582253626
The Void (Kara) is the exact mathematical inverse: 1 - 1 = 0.
It isn't Darkness... because Darkness still has desire, anger, and ego. The Void is absolute zero.
Where Connection uses memories to anchor people to reality, the Void dissolves memories to erase identity entirely. Sora proves that individual life and pain are worth it because shared bonds give existence meaning. Kara views bonds, feelings, and identity as chaotic, temporary noise, and wants to snap every thread until creation collapses back into complete, silent zero.
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AI truly was a net negative on humanity.
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>>582253341
>>582253489
>>582253626
can you please stop spamming your AI chat here?
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The real crime and poison to this site isn't hard banning AI off of it
Truly a torture
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>>582254738
>>582254552
>>582254418
just report and ignore
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>>582254552
>>582254738
>>582255084
Not AI, it's my theory I thought of for a while now
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>>582255173
literally fuck off back to /v/ with your chatgpt spam
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>>582229550
>>582230753
The real reason is probably they forgot and found out that Pinocchio already became a real boy in the KH1 credits. Its like planning Atlantica or Beasts castle in a game set after KH2.
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>>582257073
He’s a real boy in the data mined portraits though.
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>>582255284
I figured out the Master Of Masters true identiy, did a deep analysis, anything that is not low effort and requires research you dismiss as AI, because you can't comprehend high effort theories
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>>582257994
I stand corrected and now am more curious about what they would've done with it
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There is SO MUCH SHIT in Dream Drop Distance. I thought it was just gonna be an asset recycle of KH1/2 but we got fucking SMT demon summoning, Pokemon Amei/Nintendogs, and the movetech shit all over. Also I don't know what the shit Twenty is doing in the game but I'm beyond baffled at all that is going on. Would it be better if i played the Twenty game(s?) and came back? Also can i rape this game while ignoring the new systems because I'm a stubborn boomer and don't wish to leeeearn a new way to git gud.
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>>582261446
>Also can i rape this game while ignoring the new systems because I'm a stubborn boomer and don't wish to leeeearn a new way to git gud.
No the pets literally give you the tools to rape the game. They can buff you so much that your damage output is insane.
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>>582261446
>Also I don't know what the shit Twenty is doing in the game but I'm beyond baffled at all that is going on
No it is a selfcontained, but you should go back and play twewy and neo twewy, because they are really good games.
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Soon
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If only they knew
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>>582262773
Forgot pic related
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Woah that Resonant Arc video is worse than I thought. There's a ton of people saying they could only get 30 mins in due to that kh2 retard guy
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>>582262974
There's like a 50/50 chance, but if you see a post say some shit about Haunted Mansion, then they know. There was only like a 10% chance of calling that.
That aside, I don't see Oswald being some super powerful keyblade wielder like in fanart. I think he'll genuinely just be like pic related, maybe with dialogue and some combat ability.
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>>582257073
I mean KH2 atlantica ignored KH1 atlantica or something. Maybe Ursula in DDD explained how she came back.
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>>582262974
>>582264896
I would like him to exit his retro world and gain a modern mickey face so we can debate whether its cursed or not.
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>>582264896
Do we know when we will go to Monochrome Origin? Cause there is a lot of potential storytelling there since it's not like there was much going on in the original series. We need a reason for them to go there like Timeless River and that had tons of crazy magic time travel shit going on. And an antagonist. It might be the most important world in the entire game.

Then there's all the meta stuff and parallels world versus 13 they could pull.
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>>582265249
>Do we know when we will go to Monochrome Origin?
Immediately after Sora "returns" from Quadratum, judging by the achievement order. So pretty big implications there.
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>>582265102
There are so many cursed Oswald's
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>>582265598
What did they mean by this?
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>>582265429
I don't want to get too excited but part of me hopes we get more lore to the whole Disney Castle side of the series' history. Sort of like 3 Mouseketeer but more important. And also literally Walt Disney.
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>>582178915
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>>582242462
>What will Xion's role be in KH4?
Giving birth to Roxas's twins.
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>>582246217
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>>582272506
Two!?
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>>582273016
Duality and all that jazz.
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why did they change vanitas' voice in KH3? he sounded cool as fuck in BBS
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I thought the Roxas prologue was universally loved now, but no, that shit is still contentious in 2026.
I hope the start of KH4 is the exact same.
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>do data battles at lv 40
>get fucked in the ass
>come back at lv 99
>get fucked in the ass
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>>582274632
I believe the youth call this a “skill issue”
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>>582274632
It sounds like you just want to be fucked in the ass.
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>>582274632
They're just warming your ass up for Yozora.
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What would Oswald even have against Mickey in the context of KH-meta context
Why would he try to murk him?
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>>582274396
what is there to dislike about it?
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>>582274632
you should be able to do a bit more damage at least making the ass fucking a shorter affair
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>>582276909
Common criticism seems to be that it "gets in the way" of starting the usual SDG adventure.
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>>582277825
I thought that way when I played for the first time. But after the Axel fight with the dual keyblades, I didn't want to stop playing as Roxas. Not to mention I was already too invested in getting those dorks to the beach
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>>582276825
He's the Verum Rex of Disney Castle
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Guys all the way back in KH1 why WAS Sora having thoughts that the world wasnt real? Out of universe or in universe reason I can't figure out how that has anything to do with Kingdom Hearts 1 other than it being about Disney movies. I wonder if Sora was just going to be a kid who was closer to our world where the Disney movies were movies he fell into or something?
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>>582279036
Well yeah
They didn't know any disney magic bullshit
Or specifically Sora doesn't 'cause Riku met Terra and he saw that brickshithouse summon a fuckhuge key out of nowhere
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>roxas wanting to go the beach was probably Sora's longing to go home spilling over.
>finally gets to the beach in a bittersweet manner when sora gets home
Kh2 was so kino.
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>>582279586
if the series ended in KH2, I wouldnt even be mad. it was perfect
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*roll eyes*
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>>582279209
But I mean at the time BBS wasnt written it was just Kairi who showed up and made them realize there were other worlds.

or was it just that other worlds = existential crisis
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>>582283738
But also even then the other worlds were still real so why was he thinking if one has to be real over the other?

Ironically he lands in Wonderland soon after
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Aqua is awful
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>jp sora sounds virtually the same 2 decades into the franchise
What the fuck is that
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>>582283738
imo it's just a 14 year old wondering what the fuck is happening
he got thrusted into this shit and it's so sudden, if he had that monologue while travelling with donald and goofy, it'd make sense, especially after leon dropped the nuke on him that "the" keyblade is both a saving grace and instigator of doom
sora is smarter than people give him credit for
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>>582288586
>instigator of doom
They really should bring this concept back
King Triton's reaction to the keyblade was special
He didn't fuck with keyblade wielders until Sora helped his daughter
What was that about
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>>582288217
Asian genetics. One day he'll wake up and immediately sound 90.
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>>582264896
>if you see a post say some shit about Haunted Mansion, then they know. There was only like a 10% chance of calling that.
Since we first saw Sora in Quadratum and were speculating about all worlds being live action I've been saying that I would much rather have Haunted Mansion, Jungle Cruise and Honey I Shrunk the Kids than the live action remakes
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>>582288791
I mean the keyblade war is tge cause that the world got fucked.
Then there is also nort and MoM causing all kinds of tomfoolery.
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>>582288217
Asians reach their peak at 15
If they grow at 18 or 20s, it's a miracle
They'll stay like that until they hit 60+ then age rapidly
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how do I solve the mp economy here in 3
even with the equivalent of staff choice, mp seems to run a bit too low
is it the food thing with ratatouille?
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>>582289541
HIS NAME IS REMY. and yes
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>>582289541
The secret is to ignore magic and just hit things
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>>582289541
I thought his name was Little Chef
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>>582289541
Yep, either that or ignore magic entirely. They fixed the melee combat with the patches and DLC, but sadly magic needs more work
I do hope magic gets redone in 4 because KH3 sora is so fucking fun to move around with
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>>582289541
>Not just being a X spam chad
ngmi
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Speaking of magic, do you guys even use the ice rails kh3 blizzard leaves?
I really don't and would rather have the fast shotgun/rifle blizzard that was in previous numbered titles
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>>582291291
No.
It's cool in concept, but doesn't really add much in execution outside of a cool clip or 2.
But magic feeling less samey and having utility magic like aero, stop, reflect and magnet is also one of my biggest wishes for kh4.
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>>582291291
Ice rails are way too short and disappear too fast to actually be of any use conventionally. You have to go out of your way to want to use them which is obnoxious, not to mention most trash mobs disappear faster than a blink after a certain point so again no use for on demand flowmotion.
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>>582291291
cool concept, bad execution
ice is too slow and the rails disappear too quickly to be of any use
if the ice projectile travelled faster and the rails stayed longer, you can do some wacky shit with flow motion
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>>582291574
>all that just to take off 3/4 of the bar
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>>582289541
Crit screws over mp pretty bad
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This whole thing about
>MoMs IDENTITY LEAKED
seems fishy to me. The achievement about a character "Kara" which is his "last name" is referring to a superboss like Yozora. Are you telling me MoM is an optional superboss? Regardless, "His last name" is more about Luxu than MoM.
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>>582296720
>Are you telling me MoM is an optional superboss? Regardless
Wouldn't be the first time they pulled something like that.
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Wasn't there a KH concert where Vanitas' theme was part of a "heroes and heroines" medley? I always thought that was a hint that he might become an ally to Sora at some point
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>>582296720
Luxu would also fit Kara not as a real name but to call him what he is, and empty existance possessing other bodies to survive. If he has stolen Yozora's body it could be a twist only revealed in the super boss. We've heard Xigbar but given they won't show his face I'm sure that could be explained away.
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How is Sora not special?
He defied all expectations and even altered the reality of them losing
Idgi
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Kara will be Vanitas' new name after he renounces the one Xehanort gave him
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>>582303375
The keyblade didn't choose him, he stole it. I think that's how Nomura's defining "special".
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Does anyone know a Youtube channel with good boss guides for KH2FM? I'm trying to do the data fights and the only ones I found were pretty bad.
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>>582303375
he is the "side character" in a cast full of main characters
which makes him THE main character
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>>582305725
What the fuck are you talking about
Are you Nomura?
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>>582303375
I have the opposite question.
What makes the rest special?
They actually got chosen by the keyblades while sora got one through star aligning happenstance?
How special is it even to be chosen by the keyblade?
Axel literally got a keyblade by strolling into yen sid's office and asking for one.
Kairi got one, because she accidentally touched aqua's keyblade like a bad case of herpes
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>>582305698
Pretty sure Bizkit047 has a video covering all of them.

But you can just watch videos of people beating them and copy their strategies. There's literally hundreds including at level 1 with additional restrictions like no magic, no limits, etc.

>>582291291
Blizzard is completely useless in KH3. There's literally not fight in the game where its worth using in any capacity.
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Finally playing recoded on a ds and im Impressed, like how did square manage to stick this on a ds?
They were running laps over nintendo on their own hardware even the 2nd Zelda ds game looked far worse.
Its pretty fun for what it is. Def worth a playhouse to anyone told to skip it.
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>>582306830
Days and Coded have opposite problems.

Days has a goated story but mid gameplay while Coded has a shit story and GOD TIER gameplay.
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>>582289541
Are you playing on Critical? They over-nerfed the MP bar for some reason. But realy you just spam Links so it's irrelevant. Other than the Data battles, Magic is utterly trash compared to the summons.

>>582289793
>They fixed the melee combat with the patches and DLC
Only for base Sora, not the keyblade transformations, and it's still lacking compared to KH2. There's still dogshit like Blizzard Blades air combo or the Claws finisher. There's no Magnet Splash, Finishing Leap, Flash Step equivalents on base Sora.
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>>582307010
Coded's story really isn't that bad, it's servicable at worst.
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>>582306830
I am not sure how it works, but the dev team was an outside studio called hand.
Nomura was still director, but the team he worked with were not part of square.
It is the same studio that made gba com, twewy, days and neo twewy
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>>582307010
what coded did do is just affirm that sora will always be sora
it dispels the stuff like "sora would be like roxas if he didn't have optimism" or that "sora wouldn't connect with others without ventus in his heart" or that "the only reason why kingdom key chose sora was because of ventus"
except you know, no one played coded or even watched it that's why this shit still gets parroted
IT'S LITERALLY THERE, WHY ARE THESE "THEORIES" STILL BEING PARROTED
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The ds games should have gotten 3ds enchantments ports like a lot of ds games got.
Regardless im just super impressed by it, it plays great and looks good on a machine with the power capabilities a web browser
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>>582307753
They were working on one for Days back when they were making 1.5 but ended up cutting it for time and doing the movies instead. I don't think they'll ever be made at this point.
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Just a straight week of some autist here nitpicking that every pixel, animation, or sound bite wasn't ripped straight from KH2.
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>>582308174
Why is it always the title with the number 2?
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>>582308380
First game makes an idea that is rough and simple but with room to grow.
The 2nd game is usually the experimental one where the series is still finding what works and what doesn't adding in tons of new mechanics and new story ideas to up the stakes
The 3rd game is just the refining one.
Regardless kh1 is clearly the best game in the series
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>>582309738
I really like how much more of an rpg the first game is compared to the rest which are action lite with rpg numbers attached(sometimes)
Grinding out synth materials to make big accessories and gearing sora more and more to a magic powerhouse is incredibly satisfying compared to just mashing x drive mash x faster
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>>582310324
KH1 "magic build" just means adding more MP.

KH2 magic build is choosing Keyblade Abilities (Fire Boost, Finisher Plus), Abilities (aforementioned, potetially Negative Combo) that improve Magic Use, accessories with abilities (just Thunder Boost in this game).

Kh3 removes some stuff but also has elemental boosts via accessories, keyblade choice does more than just add more MP, etc.#

>Grinding out synth materials to make big accessories
That exists in every game and the accessories in 2 and 3 actually come with abilities, rather than just stats.
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>>582311210
Idk it just feels like it matters more in kh1
Last time I played kh2 I went full in on magic and it actually probably was better on proud no idea how it fares on critical but the way kh1 does things just feels better.
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>>582311610
Stats matter more in KH1, yeah, because it wasn't balanced around Level 1 like later entries. It is only "more of an RPG" in that aspect. KH2 expands equipment and ability choice, which are more interesting than just making your numbers bigger.
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>>582307159
For what it's worth, I did enjoy Coded's story at the time. But it is kinda nothing in this day and age without the gameplay, which no one is going to bother with because Square refuses to port the DS games.

>>582307493
I really needed Sora to get Data-Sora's Zero/One keyblade alongside Judgment Triad in KH3 badly, but instead we acted like he doesn't exist.
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>>582312051
But I like getting my numbers higher. Im a simple creature, getting an extra mp ans seeing it visually on screen and knoaing my thunder is going to probably one shot the next room makes my cock throbbed hard more than an interesting more varied ability simple
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Wrong pic Im retarded gonna upload new one later
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>>582311610
KH1s MP system is better and it arguably has the best magic options in the series. I'm a staffchad and use magic mostly in the games when I can, and the other numbered games generally fall flat in terms of magic imo. The other games tend to do much better.
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I have to be honest with myself. Re: Chain of Memories is dogshit awful no good very bad terrible fucking worst game in the series.
However I find myself wanting to play it a little bit more, especially R/R and I don't know why. It's tiny magnetic pulls telling me to play more even after I finished it completely.
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>>582316625
Sorry anon I think you're being Tsundere and not being real to your feelings, so this will go on for a few years and end without committing to anything because the audience will be upset no matter what direction you go.
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>>582317301
why did you capitalize the t in tsundere?
I genuinely hate the game but I feel like I should keep playing it even though there's nothing left. It's agonizing.
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>>582291291
Blizzard is discount stop basically just shuts down smaller mobs not immune to status effects from performing any action
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Is there a lore reason Namine/Org13/CO made Sora play cards or did they just do that without explanation?
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>>582319648
That's how Castle Oblivion works
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>>582319772
yeah but I guess I'm asking why does CO work like that
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>>582319897
Why does real life work the way it does?
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>>582319897
>>582319772
I thought that was Naminé's doing and CO's only thing is that you can get lost in it.
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>an entire year left of dev time on a game with finished Japanese voice acting and a full achievement list
We can only wonder what they're still doing past playtesting and finishing the dub
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>>582321885
Likely DLC creation.
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Roxas should get with both Namine and Xion. They'd be cool with it
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>>582316625
The combat system is legit interesting.
But re:com has issues that they just slapped it on kh1's battle system so it just feels like you're playing a gimped version of kh1 sora, but you need to use a resource that can get cucked by your enemies to merely swing your keyblade.
Also the mobs just use their kh1 attack patern which was not made with the card system in mind.
Would love to see a game that iterates on CoM's combat kinda like ff2 to SaGa.
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>>582322681
I genuinely wish the dual system was present in Sora's story because that was actually kind of fun. Free sleights? Huge damage? Can rape bosses instead of getting 0'd? Sign me the fuck up I wanted to tear my hair out fighting axel 2
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>>582318497
I think you're addicted.
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>>582320031
No Namine had nothing to do with the cards.
>>582319897
Castle oblivion is a maze, it endlessly changes its form to keep people out from the room Ventus is on. This is intentional because it’s the castle of departures defense mechanism as Eraqus explained. You can still use corridors but considering they never found Ven it seems that doesn’t really help. As for the cards themselves throughout the series memories (essentially information itself) just kinda seem to take those forms when solidified, from cards, to medals, to statues. You could say the cards are crystallized memories.
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>>582323443
>I genuinely wish the dual system was present in Sora's story
huh. I wonder.
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>>582323443
I actually like it was a riku exclusive thing.
You had Sora who is all about deck building and optimizing sleights and then you had riku who is all about card breaking to go into dark mode and dueling.
CoM is the most distinct two playable characters have felt within the franchise.
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>>582323834
I felt the opposite. Riku felt tacked on, lacking in effort and unfinished. Like his whole system was an afterthought. The preset decks might have made me more angry than they should though.
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CoM has the best story in the franchise.
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>>582324203
Not a chance.
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>>582319648
No the actual reason is the gba only having 2 front buttons and a desire to make something that would actually play well on gba instead of a gimped 3rd person shit show.
Prob should have made it a standard jrpg
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>>582324675
I mean like a normal turn-based jrpg prob take notes from super Mario rpg and add time inputs.
Can even keep the cards and make your party members characters sora met in the first game representing his memory being ripped from him summoned via cards you find in the castle
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>>582325621
I wouldn't be against a full blown turn-BASED JRPG for KH for at least one game.
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>>582324067
I liked it, but I do agree that the preset decks were aids.
But in gba com they were nice enough to give you a pretty good deck for the organization battles complete with a bunch of 0s at the bottom of the deck for easy acces sleight breakers.
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KH: Persona has HUGE potential
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>>582325890
Boy fucking howdy I wish I had that for vexen 1 instead of a 27 card deck with two zeros in the middle that I can't shortcut because the deck in the world before and the deck for that fight are two different decks!
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I checked re: com's file format and I think you could pretty easily implement duels for Sora, you could even decide what sleights he uses I bet.
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>>582325890
>I liked it, but I do agree that the preset decks were aids.
Wonderland, huh?
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>>582326559
Nta, Wonderland was the easiest world because of the premade deck being the smallest. It was beyond easy to win duals without having to spam through all my cards and Trickmaster was especially easy. I really don't get how anyone struggled with Wonderland, in R/R at least. Sora's wonderland fucking SUCKED though.
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>>582326559
Nah by far the worst deck in reverse/rebirth on the gba was atlantica.
Your deck were 4 copies of 5 through 1 cards in that order.
Absolute dogshit cards sorted in the most inconvenient way possible.
I would say they designed it to be as annoying as possible if it wasn't so lazy.
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Anyone else find it really funny that Riku was like "I reject your dark powers, I don't need the darkness!" to Ansem and then literally next screen in the world he shouts "DARKNESS" and becomes hyped up with power? The suddenness was quite amusing.
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>>582328908
Getting that surge of DARKNESS from all the card breaks just hits different.
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>>582328908
I noticed that too
it was hilarious.
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>>582105661
>>582156485
how many of you guys actually replay the kingdom hearts games? is it replayable enough?
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>>582201221
CUTE
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>>582332579
I replay the games in release order every year or every other year, but I never do 100% save KH1. I just do what I want, which does admittedly get close to 100%, but not all the way there.
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this shit is so fucking stupid
I love every single bit of it
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>>582333960
It's a miracle they can string words together.
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>KH3 is bad because it isn't KH2
Getting real tired of this arguement.
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>>582334696
Post KH1 games are bad because ripple drive isn't a basic finisher every character has. Even Days multi applies to this.
>but anon! it makes no sense for Goofy to have ripple drive!
Don't care.
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>>582333960
>Dood what's going on nothing makes sense
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my brain is too small
I can't imagine the foretellers being the villains without mom manipulating them
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Is there a chance that we could see something similar with Missing Link?
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>>582336136
no, that's just a port (or whatever it technically is if not a port) of the offline version to web assembly, there was a similar port as a switch homebrew release recently too

missing link doesn't have an offline version so there's no way to "port" it by fans unless they recreate the server and then port the apk to something else, which i assume would be more difficult since it's an unreal game and the cbt apk hasn't actually been posted anywhere publicly
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when exactly in the play order are you supposed to start playing ux and dr? saw they got decompiled
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>>582335975
>Sora is a Dandilion, they serve the Foretellers and by extension MoM. They are fighting Darkness.
>Yozora is Sora's enemy because of big misunderstanding. May also be enemy of Dandilions since losing his body or longer, which Luxu is probably using.
>Xehanort is there representing darkness but eventually gains Sora's trust enough to realize he and his new friends are fighting on the wrong side.
>Sora flips around to fight the Dandilions, Foretellers, and probably recent friends.
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>>582338285
You don't, you watch the clips and move on with your life.
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>>582332579
I used to play Vanilla KH2 every year before the PS4 collection came out but my last replay of any KH game was a few years ago when I did a series replay. Something I found then is that most KH games are kind of boring in the beginning, combat-wise I mean. Even with KH2 it only starts to pick up a few Disney worlds in.
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>>582338285
I would either watch a youtube cutscene compilation for KHUX or just wait until SE inevitably releases a recap for it before KH4 comes out.
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Why yes i will replay KH1, KH2 and KH3 next year before KH4 comes out.
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>>582312060
Isn't he technically the protagonist of limit cut?
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>>582341936
Aren't we technically playing as Riku during Limit Cut?
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>>582341936
We are playing as Riku who is playing as Data Sora who is NOT the same Data Sora as the one from Coded
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>>582332579
I'm replaying KH1, BBS, DDD and 3 atm, never 100% a single one and probably never will
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>>582334696
I don’t hate KH3 or think it’s bad. But I did think KH3 often felt more like setup for KH4 rather than offering much and KH2 felt like a better ending to the Dark Seeker saga. I think BBS could still exist and it could be revealed that Sora defeating Xemnas recompleted Terra, released Aqua from the RoD (the Door to Light Sora opened), and Roxas coulda just been revealed as Ventus. You wouldn’t need to make a whole game rescuing TAV. You could just utilize them in KH4. Then with Xehanorts two halves dead, recompleted Braig would be the new villain and then we’d jump into the Lost Masters. Basically, I think you could keep the prequels but skip from KH2 to KH4 without losing much plot. You’d have to find a way for Sora to die, but that’s about it.
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>>582346507
I think BBS' story would be better if it was something pieced together by Sora in a game, maybe even KH3. That way when we see the big events that drive TAV apart we could have filled in the blanks and it wouldn't have made TAV's friendship appear to be so weak. Keep it that nobodies recomplete but instead of it spitting out both MX and Terra it reforms Terranort. Then you could make the decision on whether to let Terra get his happy ending or if it's a bittersweet ending where he ultimately helps defeat Xehanort once and for all but at the cost of himself. And give him a kaiju sized boss battle like Ansem and Xemnas.
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>Quadratum to funnel Versus XIII ideas
>being able to reuse Toy Story after wanting and getting it into the series after so long
>Oswald, Star Wars, and making a world out of a Disney ride
Maybe KH4 really is Nomura's dream (KH) game. Not slighting other entries, but this shit just screams extreme passion.
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>>582346507
KH3 feels like a setup to 4 because it has a couple of filler scenes that lead to future games?
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KH4 will be Nomuras magnum opus
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>>582351412
no it will be his P.I. Magnum.
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>>582351284
> KH3 feels like a setup to 4 because it has a couple of filler scenes that lead to future games?

I mean, it wasn’t just the black box. Most of the final battles ended up not being final. Or really, not offering much other than…to be continued.

-Vanitas - Oh, I’m a true darkness
-Luxord -Here’s this mystery card.
-Marluxia- Oh, I finally remember my purpose.
-Larxene - Oh, I may have liked someone.
-Saix - Oh, Axel what about our mysterious past?
-Demyx - Nothing
-Ansem the Wise - Oh, what about that girl and her mysterious memories you saw?

All of them are gonna reappear in 4 where we finally get their “real” stories. It didn’t feel like KH3 added much. Xehanort could’ve already been dead after 2 and he could still appear in Quadratum. I liked the Wayfinder trio reunion but it really wasn’t enough to carry the whole game, desu. Then there were other characters who came back who, honestly, I think had better endings before. Like all the replica people. Yeah some people are really into that stuff, but it wasnt for me.
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KH2 more like KH POO
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Every KH game sets up a future game, that's how an ongoing story works.
>if the series ended here
>if, if, if
The fanatics can try to pretend KH2 was conclusive, but it objectively wasn't, even from day 1.
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>>582352935
The point of KH3 is to end Xehanort's story, not anyone else's. Why are you expecting basically every character to have an ending?
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What is the point of speculation when the best case scenario doesn't rely on past lore as much as introducing something new that can't be predicted?
Yozora looks a certain way and people bring up nobodies or xion's appearance or body hopping when its most likely a made up new thing (good).
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>>582353957
I think if Xehanort had a 3 hour prologue like Roxas and we saw a condensed version of Dark Road, it would’ve felt better. But even Xehanort’s story didn’t feel like it was set up to end with what we got in KH3. The scene with Eraqus I didn’t find any issue with. But it didn’t exactly feel…earned by the narrative. DR does help though, but they weren’t even gonna tell that story until the UX team had spare time, BAKA.

As for the other characters…their stories didn’t need to end. But they didn’t really feel interesting in KH3 or like they moved forward much. They were just there to pad out the roster to make 13. Their stories will be told when they’re recompleted. But they were already recompleted after 2, so 3 feels kinda like a filler arc. Basically I just found the story of KH3 boring and what it sets up for 4 is more interesting than its own plot.
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>>582354768
How the fuck is 3 a filler arc if if features the final fight against the antagonist of the whole series and MC dying?
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>>582354975
> How the fuck is 3 a filler arc if if features the final fight against the antagonist of the whole series and MC dying?

But MX turned out to not be the antagonist of the series. Luxu and MoM are. Fighting the Norts was more about personal closure for a small handful of characters. But for me personally, it wasn’t done well enough where I found it all that necessary to make it a full game. As for Sora dying, yeah. I agree. 4 would need a reason for Sora to be dead.
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>>582354975
Sora isn't dead. How long will it take for people to get this into their heads?
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>>582360006
>Uhm... acshually he's not dead he's just [synonym for being dead]
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>>582360352
He was ejected from the Realm of Light into Unreality. That isn't death.
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When is she getting her keyblade?
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>>582323443
>I genuinely wish the dual system was present in Sora's story
This is for you big guy.
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>>582360915
She should already be able to summon one.
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>>582322051
He thinks we're getting DLC. We'd be better off if they just used that time to refine the game as much as possible.
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>>582296720
MoM is the physical embodiment of the void, not even a human
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>>582353957
>>582354768
Ansem SoD will return in KH4, he will find Subject X
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>>582365651
Yeah except the game is clearly ready and they can release it tomorrow if they wanted
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>>582366464
> Ansem SoD will return in KH4, he will find Subject X

I dunno man. The Norts had some of the only real send-offs. That’s probably why I actually felt something after their battles. Those were the only ones we were actually saying good-bye to. I think Ansem the Wise will probably be the one to find Subject X and recover from ASoD ruining his life.

> There is more to seek...so go forth now, and seek it...
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>>582368868
But Ansem SoD should still be shown as his own character, he had his own goals, he wanted to defy his fate, he wanted to find Subject X
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>>582371618
You're very clingy, anon. No wonder he left you.
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I REALLY REALLY hope that Sora becomes a cute/cool kemonimimi lion boy like his concept art in Zootopia and not some ugly fucking furry.
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speaking of setups
>there is more to seek, seek it
>it must take incredible strength
feels like setups rather than farewells ngl
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>>582378086
Wow you have terrible reading comprehension. It's like inverse reading comprehension in which not only are you wrong but you somehow come to the exact opposite conclusion as the idea presented.
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>>582378461
Sounds like an average KHfan
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>>582378461
this wouldn't have happened if nomura just admitted he is just making shit up as the series goes
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Why the fuck is anything and everything happening again in the keyblade graveyard
Some of these org fights could've happened in the disneypixar worlds ngl
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>>582378790
Nomura plans ahead at least one game with broad concepts for further than that, intetionally leaving open ends for potential sequels new ideas. A common writing tactic but I can tell you've never written anything at all. Or had much creative thought in general.
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>>582378461
>>582378676
>Sora: You're not a leader, Xehanort.
>KH fans: "OH SO SORA'S A HYPOCRITE?!"
And let's not blame it on the translation, the fandom is genuinely stupid.
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>>582378953
Because that world is specifically made for the villains and heroes to gather.
>Some of these org fights
Why would they?
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>>582378953
Because Xehanort wants to re-enact the Keyblade War to create the X-blade. It's a sacred site for him, so he's bringing everyone there.
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>>582378790
That is the process of writing fiction, yes.
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>>582379995
Westernfans who don't dwell in jap media often have the western mindset that protagonist=leader
Must be a cultural thing
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>>582380281
Could just DDD skippers. That game basically drilled in our heads that Sora is not the leader in any sense. Just a good guy with the backing of others.
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>>582380410
>Sora is not the leader in any sense. Just a good guy with the backing of others.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
YOU WEREN'T SUPPOSE TO SAY THAT
I'M LOSIIIIIIIING MY MIND
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>582380410
This was already being hinted at in coded btw
And most people say skip coded and ddd soooooooo
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What is the role of
>Lea
>Isa
>Roxas
>Xion
>Terra
>Ventus
>Aqua
In KH4?
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>>582380998
>And most people say skip coded and ddd
You can't be serious dawg
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>>582381139
>Terra
>Ventus
>Aqua

Ventus meets Lauriam and Elrena and this triggers all his Dandelion memories to return. He realizes he’s hosting a true darkness and asks Terra and Aqua to put an end to him if he ever loses himself. T & A are caught between their friendship with Ventus and their duties to the World as Keyblade Masters.

>Lea
>Isa

They begin searching for their missing friend Skuld, who is named after the Norn who is associated with the future. We learn that they tried to help her, got caught up in the experiments themselves, and Isa was marked with the “X” because he’s hosting a true darkness.


>Roxas
>Xion

They will greet Sora when he returns from Quadratum.
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>>582332579
Every 2 or 3 years depending on how many other games I want to play at the time.
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>>582382379
>>582381139

Kairi's probably going to be training with Aqua when shit goes down. Aqua and Terra (and I think Riku because he's master too?) have the responsibility of training the next generation of keyblade masters. Which I'm not sure will be important for awhile but it will be their main role. You know like Luke Skywalker before they fucking ruined him.
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>>582388272
>You know like Luke Skywalker before they fucking ruined him.
honestly horrified to imagine even a sliver of disney wars slop getting through in any way in the star wars world.
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I don't understand why people are mad that things in KH are finally being properly set up for what feels like the first time. Unlike a lot of things after KH1 like Ansem being an imposter. Or Maleficent coming back through unexplained black magic.
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>Information
>Defend the Ewoks from the Heartless!
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>>582388691
Japan loves Grogu so much they put him in their Disney Kamen Rider belt so I'm worried too. Especially since if they ever go back to Star Wars we're ending in episode 6...
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>>582336136
>Preservation
It immediately changes aspects of the games (like the "Kill the 1,000 Heartless" to be 250 instead.

That isn't preservation. That's alteration. That's like me giving you KH3 except now it has Shrek instead of Sora and everytime you swing a keyblade there are explosion sounds everywhere. Unless you can get rid of these small alterations I'll never count it as preservation.
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>>582388934

Give Sora a henshin device to access form changes Nomura pls
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>>582389040
This already happened to kingdom hearts with the final mixes and their changes
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>>582353238
>The fanatics can try to pretend KH2 was conclusive, but it objectively wasn't, even from day 1.
I disagree somewhat. The series could have been done with BBS and Days.

>>582389208
Those are official titles, c'mon anon.
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>>582389885
And they didn't preserve anything either you didn't beat the real kingdom hearts.
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>>582353238
>Every KH game sets up a future game, that's how an ongoing story works.


NTA and honest question but what did KH2 set up again? The letter at the end? Was there anything else? >>582388272
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Sora should starts scratching or even punching and kicking again, like antiform
Like ditch the keyblade, throw hands
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>>582388934
I'm sorry but that "mickey" is literally just KH1 sora
Huh
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>anger and hate are supreme
>rage form is basically ultimate form but accessible from the get go
Huh, maybe Xemnas was onto something
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>>582391467
There is terrible terrible power to be found by succumbing to darkness but if you keep your humanity and soul and remain in the light, you can vanquish the evil creatures dwelling in the shadows and save your loved ones.
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>>582390216
Anon, I don't know what the fuck you are trying to say here.
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>>582391467
i need a form that puts final/ultimate and anti/rage together
no, not double form, it's lacking the divine feeling of the former and/or the animalistic feeling of the latter
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>>582391467
Darkness comes with phenomenal power, but it burns you out very quickly. It's not power built over a long time.
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Speaking of dark forms and Sora, they did say that his power or rather the power he got is through connecting with the hearts of others, that's the strong light but they also said hearts have darkness too, the natural pain and negative emotions, its a balancing act. Wouldn't that mean the darkness in him is just as strong as the light, it's just that he doesn't tap into it?
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>>582391880
You've come so far yet you understand nothing.
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Had to get this out of my system ASAP. Probably should've shrunk and lowered the posters to still show the heads. Guess I'll do that when the world is officially revealed.
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>>582393269
All hearts have darkness (with exception). His Anti-Form is a result of his new clothes being able to tap into that darkness without warning.
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>>582390363
>NTA and honest question but what did KH2 set up again? The letter at the end? Was there anything else
KH2 didn't actually set up anything because the story almost avoided it's own existence. It concluded everything that CoM and the beginning of the game set up by going "umm don't worry about it". In any case the closest it came was Xigbar offhandedly mentioning Sora not being up to snuff compared to other warriors and then the secret ending. KH2FM, because KH2 was like that, far more blatantly set up a future game with Xemnas having his underground chamber with someone's armor, xigbar mentioning warriors wielding keyblades showing up at radiant garden and being Xemnas' friend and the lingering will knowing Xehanort, while also clearly being the same armor from the secret endings.
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>>582396518
Sora's heartless makes him look like he has anger issues
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>look like
CoMbros....
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>>582396462
When did KH2 ans KH2FM come out for us again?
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>>582394030
Please put that picture back in your system and never let it out ever again .
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Why does Sora even spin around when guarding?
Just guard like you did back in kh1, dumbass
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>>582401438
Nigga got flair
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>>582401438
He's still doing that KH2 spinning guard in the KH4 trailers btw
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>>582401438
it's all about styling baby
honestly wish they made a new animation for it in 3 tho
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Mfs complaining about guard animations huh
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>>582401879
And we have to be the victim because that fag can't get a Twitter for his autistic stream of consciousness of the minutia of KH2's animations.
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>>582404214
But he's complaining that it's not like KH1.
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It's awfully convenient that all of the Org's heartless were defeated before their nobodies
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>>582406730
I like the theory (speculation really) that the heartless that Sora faces in 1 or 2 are the Org's heartless.
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>>582406730
I just assumed the heartlesses bosses were the heartless of some of the members
Like trickmaster being axel's or stormrider being xaldin's
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>>582407818
I mean only keyblade wielders can permanently destroy heartless so who else could it have been?
There are only pureblood heartless in the realm of darkness right?
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>>582408060
It would appear as much. Meanwhile most of the Heartless Sora beats as bosses are Emblems so there's merit to the idea at least.
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>>582407896
I thought so too, but strong nobody doesn't necessarily translate into a strong heartless.
Sora's nobody was Roxas, but his heartless was just a weak ass shadow.
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>>582411942
I consider the fact he became a pureblood to be because he wasn't attacked and killed by an emblem (or it would have simply become a new emblem heartless) which means his heart was as close to the realm of darkness as it could be.
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>>582378953
>Why the fuck is anything and everything happening again in the keyblade graveyard
Because it's literally the most important location of the franchise
>Some of these org fights could've happened in the disneypixar worlds ngl
It's not a war if it's happening in different places
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Character dialogue before dying:
>Good bye! And be safe
KH fanbase:
>DOOD IT'S A SETUP FOR FUTURE GAMES
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Star Wars is cringe and gay
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I always thought sora's stance was kinda weird
he's also the only that looks around compared to the rest that look straight to the enemy
oh and donald and goofy look around too
it's adorable that the trio have this i significant similarity, I think
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Are we even going to fight Vader or one of the old Siths?
If not then the SW world is worthless
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>>582420976
Vader is gonna have a fight but it's a fight you have to lose either way, even if you win the cutscene will still show you actually lost
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>>582414630
>It's not a war if it's happening in different places
I guess World War 1 and 2 weren't wars then.
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>>582390837
really makes you think
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thoughts?
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>>582433048
I think that guy is having a breakdown after people shat on him for randomly spoiling the achievements before, so he made up this. That's my theory without looking up the account up.
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Man I'm really shocked just how much of a tank you become in KH3 at lvl 99. With good armor and food strong heartless do chip damage ON CRIT.
The only thing so far in base game gave me any sort of trouble after getting 99 is Dark Inferno but I still beat it on first try. It's damage was noticeable but not that bad.
How are data fights when you minmax? Are they as hard as DI or way harder?
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>>582433279
No one "spoiled" the achievements. They were publicly available
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>>582433048
This is so far off it's literally tranny bait
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>>582433567
They are going to kill you because they're adjusted to your level
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>>582433048
>via resetera
That place filled to the brim with mentally retarded spastics who can't go a second without purity spiraling? I don't know why you'd trust that place at all with any information from it.
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>Sora... Dinner's ready
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>>582433631
I didn't feel like putting the word spoil in quotes.
>>582435135
1. It's made up.
2. They got more reliable insiders than /v/.
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>>582421540
I'm predicting something interfering with the fight (like your surrounding exploding) that then separates Vader from you. Or Luke grabs his attention so he just decides to force push you away (maybe off of an icy mountain for deja vu) to go do movie plot.
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Instead of Birth By Sleep, we should have gotten a game where Kairi goes on her own Keyblade adventure to fight Vanitas and Rikunort.

Aqua is basically what Kairi fans imagine when they claim she had potential to be a third protagonist; cute girl in a sleeveless top, magic-themed, worries about her friends and fights everyone in the world for their sake, pals around with princesses and uses their power.

Birth By Sleep's lore revelations are:
>Xehanort was another dude before Ansem and Xemnas
>Even the guy we imagine as Xehanort is a stolen face
>The guy Roxas looks like is a separate dude named Ventus
>He has an evil self that looks like Sora
>There was an order of keyblade knights that fell to tragedy
>Mickey and Yen Sid knew all of this and didn't want to talk about it

Instead of doing the prequel trio thing, this could have been Kairi and Lea on an adventure while Dream Drop Distance happens. To Mickey and Yen Sid, it looks like Sora and Riku failed the Mark of Mastery and succumbed to Xehanort.

The tragedy with Terra and Ven is repeating itself, so they're afraid of how much to reveal and just, make "solve this before it goes wrong" Kairi's training arc. Yen Sid can go, "Oh, you need a buddy, so here, I brought Axel back as a human, he's good now." It would reveal Master Xehanort, his plan to come back, the lost history, etc. through these two chumps trying to solve a mystery that Mickey and Yen Sid are hiding details about.

Terra and Aqua could take the narrative role of Eraqus, the lost masters that tragically failed because of what a prick Xehanort is. That whole "Sora and Riku are evil" thing is Rikunort and Vanitas as the first members of the Real Organization, in a team-up with Young Xehanort to reconstruct MX as a Somebody. Still want Aqua to be in the present? She can be the lost princess Kairi spends all game rescuing, and then becomes her mentor, like Mickey to Sora and Riku.

Put anything I forgot in a Destiny Islands flashback world idk.
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>>582438559
Schizo
Meds
Nomura knows the truth about femoid brains. That's why only moids have true hearts. Aqua being a canon tranny means ""she"" doesn't count.
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>>582436701
nah it's gonna be
>at some point of the world, depending on how they do it, it's the part where the whole group is at the ewok's village whatever
>Luke goes away after having talked to Leila
>Sora knows something is wrong so he follows him
>SDG trek through the forest at night
>as they get close to the empire landing site, this cutscene plays https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iW1PYQZpuo8 exactly as it does in the movie
>the bit with Vader at the end is expanded, with him sensing SDG coming
>back to SDG, they are met with the stormtroopers searching for the rebels
>after that fight is done, Vader shows up, Sora will tell him something about the light and darkness and whatever else
>fight happens, he's superboss level cause it's fucking darth Vader, no way he's gonna be a wimp fight
>he beats you, and if you beat him he still beats you in the following cutscene
>whole thing ends with SDG also being captured and being taken on the death star, so that the world can have a death star level and the rest of the movie's plot happens (especially since this point forward Luke imo has to be alone, so yeah SDG are gonna be watching the plot unfold from afar and that's a good thing)
alternatively, Sora follows Luke alone while Donald and Goofy stay back with the other rebels so that we can play their side too. Though idk, i really don't care about the shit that happens on endor's moon and i'd rather have a fully focused death star section
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I have a terrible feeling all the gummi content is going to be locked inside the Star Wars world.
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Live action worlds are 4/4 in letting you fight their villains as bosses, so it's funny to see some people doubt Vader will be one.
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>>582443449
gummiship gets a whole exclusive world, if we're reading the achievements right. I mean, imagineer "planet" has to mean something
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>>582443752
I loved KH3s gummi kino, but i want an entire Gummi universe to explore.
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>>582420976
Sora can't stand up to any major Star Wars character lol.
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Why is the cutscene direction in KH3 pure shit? Everyone just stands around doing nothing in the keyblade graveyard scenes.
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>>582433048
Wasn't Sora's mom just a voice added in the English dub?
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>>582445621
jap fiction slop where talking is a free action and they have unlimited time to stand and yap before doing something
they should really work on that because sdg don't stand around as much in the disney worlds as they get directory help from american directors
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I feel like Mushu is underutilized in Land of the Dragons, and I really like his banter with SDG. Granted Land of the Dragons is a middling world at best.
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>>582448282
>kingdom of corona
>heartless appear
>sora donald and goofy talking to each other on how to deal with the heartless
>heartless just stand there and do nothing
>eugene immediately starts to tiptoe away as they're talking
Lmao
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It's always a problem when KH3 does something other games did.
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>>582416431
>Not wanting Luke to activate his lightsaber directly into your asshole
Found the faggot.
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WHEN IS MELODY OF MEMORY COMING TO STEAM
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>>582446714
What really? I always got the feeling that an earlier version of KH would haveeveryone on the island as a castaway like Kairi
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>>582450524
i mean literally from a boat too it'd explain all the wood. And hunting for food and building a raft.
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>>582450524
To be honest I think the series only ever talks about Riku's dad a bit.
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>>582450517
RIGHT AFTER YOU BUY IT ON THE EPIC GAMES STORE
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I would greatly lower your expectations for KH anime
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>>582451484
That's not a funny joke.
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KH4 is the moment Kingdom Hearts surpasses Final Fantasy and becomes the flag ship franchise for Square Enix
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>>582453183
I mean, Disney did made Square release yearly KH games for a bit.
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>>582453183
Which means KH is also going to be ruined by retarded management and talentless hacks directors like Toriyama, Tabata, Hamaguchi and Yoshi-P.

>New mainline KH with Ubisoft towers by Hamaguchi
>New KH MMO by Yoshi-p with focus on pandering to raiding retards and having a cash shop in a full priced game

LET'S GOOOOOO
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I'm not familiar with extended universe and video game Star Wars stuff what voice actors should I expect to come back for Kingdom Hearts 4? Han and Luke's voices seem too old to go back that far.

Same question for other movies.
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>>582453183
>tfw they start putting Sora into FF to boost FFs sales and not the other way around
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>>582453183
>>582455004
KH is the last game series I grew up with and care about that hasn't jumped the shark so I've already been braced and ready for its turn.
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>>582450882
Why have I never seen anyone joke or make a theory about MoM being Riku's dad. Especially with Star Wars lol. It's just LOL mom LOOKS LIKE MOM HURRRR
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>>582455301
Dart Vader is gonna be AI most likely. The VA sold the rights to his voice before his death. Fortnite already had AI Vader that people tricked to say racist shit.
Mark loves playing Luke. And he was in KH before. He might try to fake his young voice or use AI to de-age it. So I don't see why he wouldn't return.
Chewbacca is obvious. Anyone can do random growling.
Han is not happening. He's too old and doesn't care unlike Mark. He didn't voice Indiana in the last game.
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>>582455480
>Master of Masters (MoM)
>Melody of Memory (MoM)
Therefore Sora's mom is Kairi.
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Let's so nomura leaves square, because he had enough could disney tell square to eat shot and let nomura continue helm the series without the ff characters or are they obligated to continue working with square and let some new bozo at square be in charge of the franchise?
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What if Sora has anger issues again in KH4
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSDpRvHf2o4
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MoM is a Disney villain and exists in the future
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A bit late to ask this but no one in-universe really wondered why KingdomKey looks exactly like the two keys of the X-blade huh?
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>>582455301
Behind The Voice Actors is a good site to theorize about what Star Wars characters will get what VAs. Looking at games and cartoons, it's not a safe bet to think Mark Hamill will voice Luke Skywalker. Let's look at how many times he actually did the voice in those
>video games (which Kingdom Hearts is): none
>cartoons: Family Guy, Robot Chicken, The 1978 Holiday Special, a 2017 web animation series as a guest star, LEGO (as his older self)
And even if they could because of his prior KH work, he doesn't even sound the same.
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>>582459782
Nope, it makes me think it's just aesthetic so there's no connection between the two.
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As for Darth Vader, the most likely candidates for his voice in KH are
>Scott Lawrence (16 times, all games)
>Matt Sloan (23 times, mostly shows)
>AI voice (I only list this one because it happened twice, in the Kenobi show and Fortnite)
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>>582457604
I want to see retro futuristic OC worlds. We haven't really seen anything like that in KH yet
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>>582459992
did he voice himself in whatever disney+ show had cgi young luke?
cause as you said i doubt he can sound like he did, it's not even a matter of it being a videogame (which in this case doesn't even matter, cause he was in KH itself in the first place already)
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>>582462495
AI voice in both The Mandalorian and The Book of Boba Fett
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>>582462495
from what i'm finding it's like >>582462798 said but it wasn't just "claude do a luke impression", Mark Hamill did the actual voicelines and the ai "deaged" it
at this point i guess they could do it here too, could also be the reason the english voice acting is not complete yet
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The greatest thing Nomura has ever done was not have these fuckers come back in any game except Uχ.
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Such a kino entrance.
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Things in the series that do not make any sense whatsoever:
1) How did Kairi lose her heart
2) How was Namine born if Kairi's body was still there
3) Same point above but for Sora
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>>582466813
>1
same as the other princesses
>2
cause it was born from Sora's. Naminé is literally Sora and Kairi (and kinda Ventus) child
>3
Sora did lose his body, but Kairi and her princess of heart a wizard did it powers "restored" it. Or more like, made him a whole new body
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>>582466813
>1) How did Kairi lose her heart
Darkness pouring out from the consumed heart of Destiny Islands forced it out

>2) How was Namine born if Kairi's body was still there
Sora's body bifurcated when Namine's heart left his body. Two Nobodies were then born from Sora's body, Roxas and Namine.

>3) Same point above but for Sora
Sora's body mutated and became Roxas. Kairi's light power granted Sora's heart a replacement body. She does it again for herself in ReMind.
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Everyday I thank god the average fanbase isn't directly in charge of writing the series. Whatever they influence is questionable and I have my own gripes with the series but I would never have anyone else take over the series from Nomura when I saw the dogshit tastes and opinions of the average KH fan.
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Reminder that the darkness that comprises Vanitas jumped ship from Ven's heart to Sora's during their brief interaction in KH3 ReMind. In going to Quadratum, Sora will bring it together with the darkness sealed in MoM and his apprentices
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>>582473087
The fans are too obsessed with servicing themselves over actually trying to tell a (better) story.
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>finding chests and lucky emblem in this without a guide
Think you're cut out for it?
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Disney Castle...SOUL
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>>582477754
Was anything like this in Disneyland? I only know the atheistic from Micky Mouseworks or whatever that show was called (it failed and House of Mouse was quickly made in its place to keep the new shorts going).
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>>582473087
desu that applies to almost every series, not that it makes it any less true here
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>>582453183
Nah SE doesnt own KH so I dont think they'd make it their flagship
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>>582476928
Oswald's kids should be collectables
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>>582476928
Found them in San Fransokyo so shouldn't be too much trouble.
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>>582473260
Its really fucking funny to me that people complain about Nomura not letting go of Versus 13 when he always had commentary on how shit Square was when he made Eraqus Sakaguchi when he had to step down and everything went to shit. Hell Tactics class system was based on Square being terrible to work at lol.
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Is Namine into NTR or something?
>Replaces Kairi for Sora/Riku
>Screws with their heads until she realizes Sora has a nobody, less hassle.
>That bastard went and made a FAKE version of her.
>Feels attacked by this, so makes her remaining simp (Riku) kill her.
>She escapes
>Damn it
>Turns out future hubby ended up killing her, and is also forgetting her.
>Better than she could hope, now no-one can get in her way.
>Get ordered to re-write his memories to help Sora.
>This will make hubby rejoin him, but she can just rejoin Kairi and then since they will be together, so will she and hubby.
>Still talk to him so that way she can replace the FAKE in his memories.
>Sora somehow has the FAKE's heart in him/somehow the FAKE has a heart.
>She and hubby get new bodies and he starts hanging out with her instead.
>Forced to hang out with the simp (Riku) again.
I mean, at least she loses in the end but still, like three times and then trying to force herself together with Roxas is wild, I thought this was a wholesome game about friendship.
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>>582466813
>1) How did Kairi lose her heart

It was exactly like how Heartless take people's hearts but her body couldn't disappear and her heart went into Sora because she couldn't become a Heartless because it was pure light.
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>>582483784
She might as well get into it so she can at least watch the boys she's been chasing have sex.
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Yeah, I don't think so.
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>>582483784
Marluxia told her to do that. She probably didn't want to do that.
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>>582484440
Sora is such a himbo. Lucky for Kairi he's hot and probably has a big penis.
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>>582485080
How do you explain the instant like for Roxas then? No way the memory witch forgets something. She even went out of her way to alter the journal to make certain she would be remembered, and didn't do anything for Xion.
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>>582485364
Roxas is Sora's Nobody, Namine is (technically) Kairi's nobody or at least the closest approximation a PoH can have which means the two of them have ingrained feelings for each other. As for Xion, fuck Xion.
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>>582485080
>14/15 year old girl doesn't want two boys fighting over her
Yeaaaaaaaaah
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>>582473260
>Reminder that the darkness that comprises Vanitas jumped ship from Ven's heart to Sora's during their brief interaction in KH3 ReMind. In going to Quadratum, Sora will bring it together with the darkness sealed in MoM and his apprentices
Do you have ANY proof of this? Any supporting evidence?
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>>582485512
>No denial that she likes cucking other girls.

>>582485514
>The only books in the Mansion Library not unreadable were Twilight.
Grim.
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>>582485837
>sudden cucking fetish
Fuck off nigger.
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>>582485364
Like with everything else in her miserable and short life Namine settled for sloppy seconds in a desperate desire to feel a connection with someone else
>Spawns all alone int the castle
>Has nothing
>not even memories of being human
>Found by the org who use her for memory experiments
>As she herself stated the compelled her to fuck with Sora's memories but she felt so alone that she went along anyways
>He decides to go back to his old self and discard his fake fabricated memories of her
>She gets Riku Replica as a consolation
>he goes of and gets himself killed
>She decides to meet Roxas because he is a part of Sora and that she wants to rejoin kairi
>she met Roxas and felt they were somewhat alike so if they both reunite with their somebodies they will also be together by proxy
>Roxas actually had Xion all along
>By KH3 Namine straight up says Roxas is the one everyone misses
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>>582485837
>No denial that she likes cucking other girls.
She's the worst bull in existence if that's the case because if anything she ends getting cucked just about every time
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>>582485920
>Ad Hominem

I honestly just pointed this out out of amusement. I know Xion was conceived later, but still having Namine as three people's arguable love interest is just funny to me, even more so that they all share the same-ish face.
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>>582486124
That's why I enjoy pointing it out so much. Failed three times lol.
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>>582486542
>Dislike NTR/Cuckshit
>Realize that the Blonde creep tried like three times, and point it out.
>Be accused of being 13/50
Namine simps are wild bro, just take the L Riku.
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The easiest way to tell if you're getting older is how easy it is to get excellent at a kids' rhythm minigame. I'm definitely starting to get old.
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>>582485920
Anon...We all know the blacks don't have cuck fetishes.
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>>58248771
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>>582487446
The only reason I'm hesitant to play 2 again is this garbage.
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>>582487793
You WILL get the final upgrade to Blizzard and unlock Lingering Will
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>>582487917
I thought it was cure?
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Genuinely one of the worst worlds in the series. 3s revisit being so good that I consider it to be the best world in the franchise is a damn near miracle considering what we got here.
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>>582488048
>shan yu only has a bunch of heartless doesnt get any of his crew
>barbossa gets his whole crew
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>>582488285
>Chinese world has only one Chinese villain
>PotC has White guy, but you have to kill like 40 of the Black crewmen first.
This game came out before everyone started pandering to China right?
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>>582488285
Barbossa had to curse his whole world with terrible VA work and next to nothing in it. Port Royal has always felt like a preview of an actual world to me.
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>>582488874
>Please Sora I need this!
>My memories are kinda homeless.
>I just want to talk to my friends again about the school project.
>I'm trying to help them out.

>Sora and Kairi I'm watching your stream why you trying not to laugh bros?
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>>582488853
terrible english VA was common during the ps2 era for squaresoft/square enix
kh1, kh2, the bouncer, hell even ff10 had some bad moments. and most of the cast in that game were voice actor veterans that voiced cartoon characters since the 80s
i kind of mark it up to the direction more than the actors.
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>>582487982
That's Pooh
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>>582487919
I'm sure no one has turned this into a sexy lady.
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>>582485989
>>582483784
>Namine x Riku is OTP
>No, Namine x Roxas is OTP
>Actually Repliku is her bf
Watch in awe how against all odds they pair her with *rolls dice* Vanitas
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>>582485526
Esoteric insight.
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>>582491195
This is why Vanitas will change his name to Kara.
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You know i really do hope that there are still around keyblade wielders around in Scala. I really wanted to see the civilization and society in missing link. I really liked how they had to subdivide themselves in to more specific roles out of necesssity, like having operations masters in charge of societies and scientists(although they didn't necessarily have to be keyblade wielders). Although I can't remember if that was a keyblade master in charge of a society or just a keyblade wielder in charge of a society but not necessarily a master. I could imagine the roles and ranks of keyblade wielders getting even more specific just for how much shit has to get done and how many people and wielders there are.

>Grand Masters(Basically in charge of policies of the city itself, governing the rules that keyblade wielders should abide by, and declaring whether or not things are permissible or forbidden)

>Master
>>Further subdivided into Defender like Eraqus; tasked with defense of specific locations. Teacher passing down knowledge of the keyblade to new generations like Odin. Chief Guard, like the city guards from Scala but basically the chief of police, strong keyblade wielders need to be in charge of policing other wielders. Executors, specfically sent out to kill strong as fuck monsters of darkness or rogue/evil keyblade wielders.

>Knight(level at which they are can skillfully wield a keyblade and partake in field operations but not necessarily a master. Basically Sora, Ventus, Kairi etc.)
>>Further subdividid into city guards like in missing link, filed operators allowed to go out to other worlds. etc.

>Apprentice(may or may not have yet awakened their keyblade but not yet allowed to really go out and fight)

Maybe the dandelions are like that in KH4. They're workign with the government, get requests from them, and even seem to fight alongside non-keyblade soldiers.
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>>582499516
Didn't Scala get nuked or something? I admit I didn't play the mobile games, so I only know it from Xehanort's human sacrifice portal in KH3.
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>>582499954
Nah, the most we know about it is that about 70 years ago it was still around but for whatever reason only the one main island had people around and all the rest were abandoned. Why that is we don't know, Missing Link would probably have covered it considering they had a ton of people there. Anyways the most was that Xehanort's fellow apprentice went nuts and murdered two classes. Just under 13 people. That's not everyone though there were other keyblade masters around. The scala in KH3 is just the world inside Xehanort's heart taking that shape, like how Sora's takes the shape of Destiny Islands.
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I can't wait to see what kind of fucked up shit MoM does as the second secret boss
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>>582500270
Isn't that worse though?
Doesn't that mean that while Baldi was out here murdering his "best friend" and then creeping after two of his students, before going on the largest in-game assist spree TWICE the Scala folks were Eustace Bagge-maxxing?
Unless Scala is somehow detached from the main dimension of KH, the wielders that are possibly living there left the fate of everyone to a untrained 10-13 year old.
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>>582501546
Xehanort and his friends and the upperclassmen were all keeping it a secret. It wasn't until the end when odin knew what was going on and by then it was too late
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>>582501546
The first couple of murders happened in other worlds, then the rest happened all at once. It's stated (in the japanese version only iirc) that the other masters were basically evacuating others, and that their own master kinda figured that it would happen and let it(to bait out the darkness)
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>>582501767
So people besides Braig-Luxu were helping him with that? Man, the KH lore is crazier then I thought, im gonna have to watch like 3 multi hour lore vids now.
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>>582485512
>As for Xion, fuck Xion.
Roxas does every night while namine watches from the cuck chair
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>>582501946
Well Luxu was bragi one of xehanorts classmates he wanted to see if baldr was the one he was looking for to be the scapegoat but it turned out to be xehanort
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>>582501881
Man keybearers really suck at their job don't they?
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>>582502264
Ninja-Wizard-Samurai-Jedi bro
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>>582502264
Pretty sure the only actual keyblade wielder who did his job well was Roxas. Sure he was collecting hearts to make Kingdom Hearts (which is bad), but as far as he knew, he was doing his job (for the org).
Gen 1 (TAV) dont fight heartless like at all.
Gen 2 (SRK) fight heartless, but one is basically a cripple and the other spent a third of his screen time helping the darkness.
Gen 3 (A/LRX), only one has an actual keyblade for half of the story, with the other two developing them later. Xion also helped with collecting hearts, but she had a fake keyblade for a while, and Lea was too dumb to summon his until 3.
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>>582502673
Heartless weren't supposed to exist in the realm of light. ATV did fight the unversed which were the span of Darkness
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>>582502807
Yeah, but Ven is basically AWOL looking for Terra.
Terra might be AWOL, but he's at least partially under the command of his boss's well-respected best friend (Actually like the leader of Disney Al-Queda)
Aqua was ordered to get Ven and Terra back IIRC, and failed.
>might be remembering this wrong, BBS was a couple years ago for me.
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After beating Re:com I'm playing through KH2 on critical mode.
Got to the last save point, getting all of the puzzle pieces and fighting the organization VIII mushrooms at the moment. Maxed all of my drive forms.
Still gotta level up to 99 and make my way through that hole in radiant garden. Also still gotta beat Sepheroth but I beat Marluxia, Larxene, Zexion, and Vexen...

very fun game. very very fun game
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>>582488853
>tfw kh might get the disney mandated replacement VAs if not straight up the original VAs/actors themselves because everyone is now trying to be like James Wood
Pffffffffffttttttt
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>>582488853
it's funny how KH2 was just a couple years before disney found their official step-in voice for Jack
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>>582503686
You're supposed to do most of that after the final boss.
The hole in the wall is not even completely accessable untill you beat the game technically.
Though glad to hear you liked it.
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>>582504817
>because everyone is now trying to be like James Wood
How so?
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He terrifies me.
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>>582509728
What could he do against Darth Vader?
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Isa/Saix has weirdly calm voicelines for his boss/data battle compared to the last time we fought him
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What the fuck is lingering will doing as a boss
Terra wasn't doing all of that
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>>582505649
Damn, you're right. The final mushroom literally won't spawn until I beat the xehanort.
I guess I'll go beat him right now.
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>>582512443
It's what Terra could have played like in a better gameplay style.
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>>582483794
Her body couldn't disappear because?
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>>582518318
Because she has no darkness in her heart to cause it to mutate into a Nobody. No Princess of Heart can ever become a Heartless.
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>>582519023
Wasn't Elsa meant to have the potential to fall to darkness?
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Why does Isa have an X on his face? Even as a human? It's clearly meant to track him like a recusant's sigil...
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Xehanort and Eraques as adults:
>Ok, we have incompatible views *fight*
Xehanort and Eraques 50 years later
>Ok, we have incompatible views *fight*
Some time later:
>I'm so sorry, bruh
>Ok dood, water under the bridge
10 seconds later:
>Damn, Xehanort is still evil *dies*
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XIII True Darkness
I. Kara / Master of Masters
II. Xigbar/Luxu
III. Ava
IV. Gula
V. Inv
VI. Ira
VII. Aced
VIII. Master Xehanort
IX. Ansem SoD
X. Xemnas
XI. Isa/Saïx XII. Sigurd
XIII. Ventus/Vanitas
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>>582523250
It's going to be seven darknesses and 13 lights this time. MoM, Luxu, and the Foretellers will be the darknesses.
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I figured out what makes a numbered title a numbered title... Sora, Donald, and Goofy stop someone from getting a version of Kingdom Hearts, they traverse various worlds including that of Disney worlds on the gummi ship, that means KH4 will involve Kingdom Hearts directly
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>>582524365
while X/ Union X was a world ending threat, each numbered title involves Sora stopping a world ending threat
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>>582524365
>KH4 will involve Kingdom Hearts directly
NO WAY BRUH
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https://decomp.dev
I have noticed projects that sit at 99% but are stuck for months, just that close
Games like Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days and Parasite Eve 2 have been recently 100% decompiled
The thing you might not like is that if you check inside the two mentioned games github for example, the AI Cloude has been used to speed up the process, otherwise it would have taken years to do
Remember to check if AI was used for future Kingdom Hearts decomps/recomps (even if they are already on pc)
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>>582524365
I feel like it's really just defined by the Sora, Donald and Goofy power throuple. Kingdom Hearts will be relevant, but I get the feeling that KH4 might not actually summon it or a version of it for once and save it for KH5 or KH6.
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>>582525073
AI will be used for 100% of projects like this because it speeds up the process by 100 trillion %
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>>582525073
>>582525278
as a rule of thumb you have to assume anything that has to do with software is being done with, or by, AI tools. Unless it's someone that is very adamantly against it i guess
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>>582525083
There could be a Quadratum version of Kingdom Hearts, and a Kingdom Hearts of all realities (reality/ unreality, etc)
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>>582525073
Does this mean Days could be modded with real PS2-era textures and models?
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>>582527685
It means Days could be modded to be literally anything
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>>582527931
How does one run days off of it? I'd like to see people basically give days the melon mix treatment and ps2 era models, then tweak the gameplay from there
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>>582527931
it already can iirc, i remember one guy making a specific tool for melon mix where you could import all kind of assets in the game
then again "importing all kind of assets" doesn't necessarily mean it can run PS2 level graphics
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>>582524365
>>582525083
>>582527595
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>>582532156
Also this could be unrelated, but during the final battle in ReMind, Replica Armored Xehanort's DM involves him summoning a moon alongside 12 planetoids. Using keyholes suggest he's enhanced by the χ-blade like his true self on the other side.
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>>582512443
Yet Xehanort WAS basically doing all that seconds after getting Terra's body.
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So what KH4 world are you guys all the most excited for and which world are you least excited for?

>Most
Quadratum
>Least
Underworld (Just because it is probably tiny with nothing to do, i hope i am wrong)
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more project destati when
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>>58254579
>most
Star Wars because it's fucking Star Wars and Haunted Mansion out of sheer curiosity
>least
Ignoring Hundred Acree Wood, probably Coco, but I don't think any world in the list seems bad
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Average post 2015 KH-fan btw
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>less than 1 like and relentlessly shat on by everyone
>"average"
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>>582550520
>Da evil Disney doesn't want [Disney property] in because... Like..... They are evil or something
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KH twitter isn't going to survive 2027 if they're getting baited by level 1 trolls in 2026.
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>>582550520
I thought Olympus was a pretty good intro world myself, missed the Coliseum a little desu but otherwise it was great
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>bad takes
>non-kh fans talking shit about kh on how corny it is compared to their contemporary media that's just as bad if not worse and edgy
>roxas/aqua would be better protagonist than sora discourse again
KH is so fucking back
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>>582550520
What exactly makes people think disney tells Nomura what do as if he's not the director?
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>>582555709
oh my fucking god, nothing has changed since 2010s
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>>582556684
Disney owns the property and determines how their products are used
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>>582556820
If that was the case how come Donald Duck isn't the protag like Disney wanted?
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>>582557026
That was early discussion in 2000s before the game even came out.
If Nomura comes to Disney and says he wants to use Rey from Star Wars and present her as transphobic nazi, they will obviously refuse and there's nothing Nomura can do about that
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>>582556820
Nomura at the pitch meeting btw
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What on Earth is this?
This is terrible!!!
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>>582557721
Zootopia fit btw
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>>582557832
At long last, Sora shall become a regular lion
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>>582557721
monochrome origins fit btw
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A canon true furry Sora is basically crack to THAT community. We've all seen what they've done to his lion cub self.
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>>582558619
I haven't because I haven't involved myself with that community. Why have you?
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>>582560209
Against my will through algorithms and Discord.
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>>582557721
Haunted Mansion fit btw
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>>582560964
My algorithms have done no such thing. And you shouldn't be on Discord.
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>>582505286
Imagine 2B in KH so she has to wear leggings
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Fucking Lingering Will and his forced retaliation at certain HP points
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>>582563914
>it's the bike moveset
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>no encanto world in kh4
I wanted to see Riku dance to we don't talk about Bruno
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>>582564979
No one in the world has seen this movie. It's not getting into KH ever
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>>582568280
No Encanto was fairly popular.
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>>582568280
No one watched Tron either
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>>582451484
Dead on arrival, Genuinely pray it's a satire post
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>>582569027
Wrong. I rewatch Tron semi-irregularly.
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>>582557721
If you look at the concept art it really looks like Sora and a bunch of kids ship crashed on a deserted island and Sora used his chainsaw sword to build everything there.
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>>582521350
> Why does Isa have an X on his face? Even as a human? It's clearly meant to track him like a recusant's sigil...

According to Nomura it’s part of a future storyline. Maybe they’ll tell it through flashbacks in one of Mickeys book segments?
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>>582577808
The concept art that shows island life was made when Sora was using the keyblade. Though I think it was still around the same time that the primary way to fight using the keyblade was swinging it around by the chain.
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>>582525073
As long as it isn't cobbled together by retards I don't mind
I just dislike it when they prioritize releasing anything rather than making sure it's actually done well
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I am mentally handicapped

https://store.steampowered.com/sub/1000794/?_gl=1*bnmett*_gcl_au*MTY5NjE3ODc2MS4xNzkwNTUwMTI0

This is the new bundle for all kh games in one package, correct? I just want 2 and 3 because I had an itch for a lvl 1 crit Data org run. Should I buy it now or just wait for a new bundle with a made up name
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>>582523250
This is a pretty good list. I can see a reveal that Master Xehanort was hosting one all along, so his various counterparts were, too. But he’s dead so it begs the question: was his darkness killed for good? Or do all 13 need to be killed at once or they respawn? What about the people that were Norted?
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>>582587826
Yes, that's everything minus the rhythm game. I'd get it now since I can't imagine them adding anything else until after KH4 comes out.
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>>582588548
Still bothers me I get like 10 games which 8 I just dont care, I just wanna do data org
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>>582588548
Is Melody of Memory any good?
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>>582588965
Pretty mediocre for rhythm game standards
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>>582587826
Best possible scenario go for it anon
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I was working on fixing a mod I found on nexus that was fucking with the character models in KH3s journal and as i was double checking my work before I called it finished I read Elsa's bio. I feel like Jiminy is hyping up her ice skills a bit too much desu, she's not THAT good.
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I don't understand why MoM needs Xehanort at all. I get it that he needs him to reenact the Keyblade War but why?
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>>582591989
I thought it was to call back the foretellers. But I guess we'll figure it out in the next saga.
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>>582592072
Well why does the Keyblade War summon them?
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>>582592414
I don't know to be honest. Luxu's secret reports just imply that there's a connection.
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They fucking massacred this world in KH2, but it's still one of the better ones.
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>>582592860
Giving the keyblades textures to match was such a cool detail. I wish KH3 or 4 has something like that
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Wasn’t Luxu doing the same thing Maleficent did to revive Obie Boogie, Ursula, etc.?
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>>582593412
No I think he summoned them from Quadratum somehow.
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>>582587826
Are mods fully compatible with the Steam version?
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>>582591496
>like anything we're ever seen
>Larxene can do the same thing she can with electricity

the frozen writers suck
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>>582588965
Its Theatrythm basically. It had no support for extra songs but I really enjoyed it and the 3ds Theatrythm as a casual rythmfag
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>>582596150
I’m happy that OrgXIII is finally getting enough development that we’re finally gonna be able to make sense of their monikers soon. Xigbar controls space and traverses realms. His moniker is 魔弾の射手. Literally, “Shooter of Magic Bullets”. This is also the Japanese title of Der Freischütz (“The Freeshooter”), the famous 19th-century German opera. That is almost certainly why Square used “The Freeshooter” in English.

Short summary:
Max, a young forester, wants to marry Agathe, but he must win a shooting contest to secure his position. His confidence has been shaken by a series of bad luck, so he accepts magic bullets from the sinister hunter Kaspar, who has made a pact with the Devil. Six bullets will hit whatever the shooter wants; the seventh is controlled by the Devil.

It’s also why I can see him being “Majin Hunter”. It fits his moniker and sniper theme.
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>>582596304
They should've sent vexen. idc that he turned good.
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>>582591496
>>582596304
Did you guys forget that Elsa's magic also caused winter across an entire country
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>>582600776
I did forget that.
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>>582600991
And during the middle of Summer. Also froze solid the ocean and teh winter would have been permanent
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>>582600776
Yeah actually I did too.
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>>582597737
>seventh is controlled by the Devil.
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Predict KH4's Disney villain bosses. Also, which ones will be replaced with a generic Heartless
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>>58260364
Heartless:
Zootopia
Haunted Mansion maybe but I dont know the story of this ride at all
Maybe some sort if gatekeeper Heartless for the Underworld before Donald and Goofy cross over to Coco or something because we already got most Hercules monsters
Monochrome Origins unless we fucking fight Oswald.

I hope we fight Maleficent and Pete somewhere too. Maybe Monochrome Origins?
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>>582603641
Star Wars - Think this one's going to have mostly Disney bosses, and probably just one Heartless. Lots of potential here alone.
Haunted Mansion - All Heartless, the lore doesn't really give Sora much to work with to fight characters, to my knowledge. The ghosts themselves all sound like allies, if not neutral.
Coco - Ernesto's the only option unless they want to also thrown in a fight against Pepita in a misunderstanding scenario. There's already a Heartless boss in the trailer, but I doubt it's the final boss.
Monochrome Origins - Unless there's a deep cut, it'll probably be Pete again. Otherwise, Heartless.
Zootopia - Bellwether is the only option. I can only see her riding or commanding a Heartless. But there's two visits, so that'll be interesting.
Toy Story - Unless Nomura was actually receptive to the complaints about no Zurg fight, this one is all Heartless or toys possessed by Heartless. It sounds like an original story this time, taking place in an expo or convention.
*Underworld - anything could happen here, but I don't see D&G leaving here without fighting a boss.
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>>582604626
Hades or Cerberus could be fought in the Underworld (or both), and the Hatbox ghost from the Haunted Mansion could be fought
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>>582603641
>Coco
Likely mostly heartless. Maybe one disney boss situation like Clayton back in Deep Jungle
>Toy Box
Definitely heartless bosses unless they throw a curveball at us
>haunted mansion
I'd love if they managed a fight with the hatbox ghost or something, but it'll probably be heartless
>zootopia
Heartless
>Star Wars
Definitely getting a Vader fight at the absolute least
>Monochrome origins
I'd love if you get a fight with oswald. Or maybe Maleficent and Pete are here
>Hundred acre wood
I think it'd be funny if you got to fight the heffalumps and woozles as a secret boss
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Honestly if they just get Vader, I think that'll drown out any potential complaints about there not being a lot of Disney bosses. KH3 did seven, but since they weren't all popular characters, it may as well have been none to those who weren't happy.
But even DDD managed to squeeze in five fights with its weird small world selection, so I'm not worried.
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>>582603641
None lol. It will all be Heartless.
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>>582605589
KH4's Disney bosses:
Hades
Hatbox Ghost
Steamboat Willie Pete
Pete
Maleficent
Eneresto Del Le Cruz
Darth Vader

Yup, that's exactly seven; they could easily have a Foreteller (animal/ predator mask) replace the Zootopia antagonist... Also, it'd be cool if Yozora was fought in Toy Box instead
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>>582605589
We aren't fighting Vadar. lol
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>>582605893
we heard you the first time
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>>582451484
my expectations were already low. I'll still be pretty pissed if it manages to be worse than the animatics for the original cancelled tv show
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>Tfw when Behemoth Heartless will return for KH4
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>>582606993
Aqua would be a great mom.
After a few years of therapy.
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KIDS ARE SMOKING THE DARKNESS
>I've been legit perma-tripping since I fell to Darkness
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>>582606993
Cute
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