minigun bird edition>What is Wardogs?A planetside/battlefield/arma/tarkov/squad-like with 3 teams and 100 players, from the developers of such classic and beloved titles as Battlion and KillrunLaunch Trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpQnZgZCIo8Season 2:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rdbnh8P0T010 Reasons Not to Buy Wardogshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugkuP4a3xk4Anti-Cheat Infohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1YpSHod0FAHelpful Links:https://wardogs.zone/previous thread:>>582045541
Who's dick do I have to suck to not get blue team ? Green is unjoinable, red is unjoinable. Fuck this game.
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>>582202207Play community servers.
Reminder that you should be abusing your pilots every time they do a shitty flight route. Their entire job is flying and they should be able to tell what's a good path and what's not without relying on passengers to tell them where to go.
>blackhawk tips over after landingholy fuck this has been happening to me a lot lately, idk if its a bug or lag
>>582203463>Their entire job is flying and they should be able to tell what's a good path and what's not without relying on passengers to tell them where to gojust ping map you gorilla nigger not everyone wants to drop HZ
>>582204462it's not lag, but if the ground is just slightly uneven and you land it's much more likely to tip over. It also happens if you land too fast
>>582201746Dawg I would have RPGd the shit out of you if I was there and you were flying that traffic pattern.
>>582204462don't slam your collective. you're landing too fast
>>582205717good thing they weren't gamers of your caliber then
>>582205964nta but I have all assists off and when I want to land I just won't touch the ground, like that shit wants me to float away, and then when I go down it just rolls over on contact
Feel like doing a little "killing a friendly pilot and making HIM pay the penalty for teamkilling a fully loaded blackhawk " right now :)
>>582202207Just join a server when it's still around 10 players. They fill up quick but it's easier to join the team you want before dozens of people fill the queue and start clicking green team. The downside is if you only play games this way you will only play on ozeti because bulkhead are dumb fucks that made all official servers start with ozeti
>>582206653well, i had the same problem til i stopped slamming the collective when i was landing. i can put the lakota down in first person at this point, and land on bridges/rooftops.i'll grant you that it's pretty touchy but it's a matter of getting used to it is all. the good thing is you don't really have to land it anywhere but the safezone anyways usually and if you flip it there you can just hop out, reposition it and autorepair itjust practice lowering the collective bit by bit as you descend. if you're going too fast just push it back up and wait til you hover, then gently put her down again
>>582207284I feel like I have to land in 1st. In 3rd any micro adjustment goes too far
>>582208107landing is the hardest thing to do in these helicopters imo, for sure part of that is because it's hard to get a good angle to see how you're landing. it's really just a matter of flipping the hoe enough times to get a feel for it, i spent an hour or so in the firing range just practicing landing and i haven't exploded since then
>>582207284>>582208107The way this game simulates ground effect is exaggerated and unrealistic. The effect is nowhere near as strong as it is implemented here.
>>582208415idk if it even does simulate much or any ground effect. i think the helicopters are just so unrealistically bouncy that they're like pogo sticks and they flip cuz they carry their momentum. there's something messed up with the way vehicles interact with the ground in this game
Has anyone else had a server shut down due to "poor performance"? I had never seen it before but it happened for the first time
>>582201746How the fuck are you able to just lock onto one spot with such precision? Any time I try it the heli fights me, even with all assists off.
>>582209160Lower collective above 10 meters and watch your AGLtimeter. 10 meters agl makes the helo bounce off the invisible air trampoline long before wheels ever impact ground.
>>582209225I've had it happen once.
>>582209225Yeah it happened for me a couple days after launch. All the servers just down and reboot after a while
>told gunskill matters>every gun is a laser beam in full auto and can kill you at range
>>582209286a combination of hotas, lots of plane games, fucking with deadzones, and practice i guess
Soulless game, what's the point of playing medic if people can instaheal themselves
>>582209614Then you should be able to forgo all of the recoil attachments in favor of faster ADS speed, which will give you a big advantage in aimduels.
>>582210090what is that disgustingly ugly mess of colors you posted
>>582209286also i was going very slowly in that clip and pitching up a lot to maintain a hover. makes it easy to keep your reticle locked onto stuff, which is why i was flying like thatlike that other anon said though it makes me easy to hit with RPGs/MAAWs. I really only fly like that if the enemy team is trash and I'm seal clubbing. good gamers will naturally hit you with a rocket and end your good fun
>>582210456Adding camos to PS2 was a mistake.
>>582203463>ping a map dropoff so i can go do ghilligger shenanigans>tell the pilot over voip to do his fob/hz dropoff for the other mudshitters and just let me off as he rolls back out of the zone>’ok’>pilot flies over the fob/hz, then either a. tries to turn on the spot by gaining altitude or b. just keeps flying straight forward, instead of ROLLING WITH HIS MOMENTUM to turn out of the zone>invariably gets shot down and leaves me in a dogshit position i have to shoot my way out of, if i even survive the dropbaffling how some of these pilots even remember to breathe
>>582201746OP clip in 4khttps://streamable.com/qm9pc8hiroshimoot need to double filesize constraints in this bitch
>>582205964I think you are right, I thought if go negative on collative it would prevent me from tipping.
>>582213005you would think so but helicopters bounce like the ground is a trampoline in this game. you have to feather it, sometimes i even raise it above 50% while im landing just to slow the helicopter down enough
>>582210090>the pointUh, plenty? A medic can fast res, fast heal and dish out stims for rushes. Bring smoke grenades (very multipurpose and last a long time). SMGs are a great weapon class too. A medic is rather invaluable in a squad. I'm guessing you only ran around with randoms. In that case, join a squad or let yourself be known. Even solo with some randoms, you can form a strong unit if you tardwrangle a bit. Tell people to sit tight if you wanna heal them, they will be grateful since it's safer and faster than doing it themselves. You can open the map and mid-click on downed frens to let them know you are coming to get them, even if it takes you a while. Not that it's much, but you'll get max tip everytime you do. Don't be afraid to ask for bribes if they are in a difficult spot. Just have a laugh when you do, and they'll happily oblige. If you want to switch it up, hang out with some solo sniper, spot for him and keep him alive by murdering everything that comes to hunt for him with your SMG. Use smokes for distraction when relocating. That sort of stuff. Or protect fobbits if you want to make a lot of easy money. Fobbit death squads expect defensless pounders. What they don't expect is a medic covering them. Bring binos and at least 4 grenades to throw over walls and gates if they are close. Cook them for 2 seconds before lobbing them over and enjoy your regular double kill. I've also stuck around stick of C4 around the FOB with varying success. Zap fobbits back to life and tell them where to aim their gun when you do. Very rewarding and very wholesome if you play it right.
Spottercucking is actually pretty fun if you get a spot between the two other teams and watch them fight.
90% of players still don't know Season 2 means a wipe.
>>582217853I don't think that's true. The group complaining about wipes are quite vocal
>take a T4 loadout off someone's corpse>lack of skill no longer matters
>>582219293the fact that the armor only lost 12% after some guy unloaded into your booty is the worst part
>obese neets with grenade launchers on minibirdsthis new meta is not very fun
It’s our vision guys…no we won’t budge on it we already told you we are fine with 5k players
>>58221785390% of anons are retards making things up
>>582219546T4 armor dudes should not be able to get into little birds, simple as. They're too big and bulky to sit like that with all their backpacks and guns too
>>582218075>>582217853It’s a vocal minority bulkhead doesn’t highlight it directly in game and people still think it’s a money wipe because they only watched one dev blog not the others
>>582219692So erm...what IS their vision?
>>582219546One of the first people to do it made a tiktok that got pretty popular so I expected a lot of people to start grinding for it so they could do it too. Unfortunately I was right
>>582219947To get enough money to make a call of duty fps
>>582219947to gape the fuck out of doomsissies
>>582219546It's weird because even with t4 armour, it feels like they're way tankier than they should be. They're literally a sitting duck, but I'll see them tank shots from like 5 guys in a fob when they're strafing and walk it off.
>>582219947>>582219692Pump and dump even they know this game has no lasting power why the lack of actual hot fixes? Why must every patch be for the season?
This game is another example how normies lack memory and any sort of capability for self reflection,. They immediately hop into consuming whatever slop is presented as the current thing.
I’m still convinced this game was an extraction shooter with vehicles and they backed out last minute
>take flares out of friendly helicopter whenever I get in it>res all the enemy teammates with defibs>put IED directly on friendly fob and magnets so arty blows them up instantly>build swastikas out of sandbags>blast alabama nigger on loudspeaker>don't ever buy kits and run to the hotzone and loot my t4 armor m4 teammate and run awayif you played like me instead of throwing money into the garbage you would have fun
>>582219947>>582219692>Play like you used to >Anyway we made this game for clan stacking poop socks btw have fun The halo 3 trailer is actually embarrassing
game's filled with cheaters
>>582219692the whole "this is our VISION. we are fine with playercounts dropping!" is just peacocking, tenecent put 50 mil down for this game and they barely made profit, once the gooks catch wind that the player metrics are dropping and that's going to be all they made they're going to start cracking down on the bongs
>>582219293can't believe they made rich kid DEI a gameplay feature
>>582219293>buckshotlmao
>>582223338>tenecent put 50 mil down for this gameWhy would ten cent bother funding this game when tencent already funded Delta Force?
>killed by an AK in 1-2 seconds (time went from 20:00:00 to 20:00:01) while wearing level 3 equipmentWhat the fuck is this game, feels like I get instakilled sometimes out of nowhere sometimes.
>>582223338LIESWait til Bremmer hears about this
If they don't increase XP gains by 3-5x after they fully wipe everything I'm not playing, this is just disrespecting my time at this point.
>>582223210its kinda rightare you struggling even without the levels?
The game is HIS vision, NOT yours!
>everyone receives a 2 hour 2x exp boost every day on first login that's only active when you play like battlefieldgame fixed
>>582219692this guy eats cat shit btw
>>582224512VISION, you say?...
do the devs just get everything unlocked on their accounts for free? do the devs even play the game?
>>582219546I killed one of those in my rocket bird earlier. I hope I see more of them.
>>582224093Check, killers ping was probably like 200.What happens (and why playing against chinks sucks):You're holding a spot. Let's say a window.Chink walks around corner. Client already knows you're there, so they see you and start shooting. .2 seconds later, you get the "gook moved" packets. Suddenly you get a packet with 8 "gook shot you" packets and due to fucky lag comp, explode into fine red mist. Often times when, on your wide, you're already safely behind cover.In theory that kind of shit is a disadvantage- if you'd moved at the same time the gook did, they'd end up getting no-regs. But since this isn't a movement shooter it feels fucking terrible on the receiving end.
>>582224951you can even the playing field. use a sniper and a lag switch and you can stand up, spend 5 seconds shooting at people, then resume. also set a latency of 1000 for outgoing packets.
>>582223338>the whole "this is our VISION. we are fine with playercounts dropping!" is just peacocking,You say this every thread. Give it a rest moron. Also, tencent literally has no money in this game. They abandoned it and the devs bought their share back
Dunno why people are malding over wipes – the game is in EA. Come back on release, then there'll be point to complain, currently it's clear they're trying to find their footing with balance.
the biggest cope is that the game will only drop to 5k players, you wont even be able to fill servers after the honeymoon ends
>>582228878You only need one player capped server and it will never get to that point. If battlebit is still alive then this will stay alive.
>>582228751Because people like to play for a while, stop and then come back again later and it's going to feel awful to come back and have nothing but the minimum shit against t4 and good weapons.
>battlebit is still aliveoh lawd whos gonna tell em?
>>582228751The wipes aren't the problem - AI DASH - The problem is that the gap between the easily achieved T2 and poopsocket T4 is too wide. But you're right, early access and all.
>steal teammates items>he teamkills me>gets banned for 15 minutes
>>582229720It's just one server, but that's all you need.
>>582230620Is one tk really a bannable offense? I average like 1 intentional tk a match and I've never caught a ban
>>582231083If you report it it is.
>>582231324Omw to run in to the line of fire and in front of builders to get them banned then I guess lmaoDevs man, Jesus christ
>>582230792I think the lack of server browsers in most popular multiplayer games has warped peoples' perceptions of how low player counts can be before a game becomes effectively unplayable.
>join ongoing game just to run some deliveries>first ural>a mine explodes right before I reach the fob>second ural>two (2) red helis follow me from our hq to the zone shooting at me>still managed to deliver one palletNobody was even in the fob anymore, everybody was rushing the hz so my ammo pallets were useless. The little hope I had to unlock the tank before the wipe is completely gone if people are playing like this now.
>>582233971I've seen three meta bunker fobs today.
>>582233971Ive got bad news pal, one rocket heli strafe instantly rapes your tank (level 35 unlock).
>>582219947
>whole team sits inside or around base>activates drill>gets reamed with mortars, arty strikes, and air harassment because hotzone>people stay on the ground hoping for a rezand thats my que to leave. sometimes the game can be quite gay.
>need a mag at an unobtainable rank to make a gun usablenice game retards
>>582237073What gets me is when a fob is getting blasted by arty and the fobbits refuse to build a stingray for the easy bounty
>building anything when there is constantly 1 shot explosives raining down on youonce they start its already over
>>582219947To run with the money at the first sign of issues just like their other projects.Third time just copying something 1:1 and still failing. Is the studio genuinely filled with retards?Scientists BAFFLED.
ARGHHH IM SPOOTING
>>5822394191 kill per match gameplay
>>582239419I can't tell if this post is supposed to be a joke since you spotted, but missed, or if you genuinely thought it was a kill and haven't realized yetEither way here's your >posted it again(You)
>>582219947rugpull and a new project
>trio of green poopsockers in t4 armor, 50cals and thermal spotters hot drops on our tower>4-6 guys on them and they cannot flush them out because their sniper onetaps anyone with his AMR, plus they have autoglocks loaded with AP ammo so they dome anyone who goes up the stairs>our snipers are underleveled so their headshots just bounce off the t4 armor>10 minutes later they call in their friend on a rocket heli and he wipes the floor with everyoneyeah this is definitely intended gameplay, a small group of poopsockers shuts down an entire team because they are legitimately unkillable by anyone who isn't also a poopsocker.And they're going to wipe the game in about 2 weeks too, so i will never to unlock the required gear to kill these motherfuckersFuck this game, i hope it crashes and burns and the devs get raped when their "muh 5k playerbase is optimal" posturing comes back to bite them in the ass.
>>582240136Me and my boys have done this exact same thing since day one when we had nothing but t1 armour and bushmastersYou didn't lose because they had better gear. You probably lost HARDER because they were giga geared. But the real decisive difference is that they're running in a squad and you aren't.
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>>582240437jesus christ...
>>582239696>>582239749I FRICKING LOOOVE SPOOOTING!!!!
>late to the game>get gigaraped by people with the highest tier gear while I've got a double barrel and a dreamits like they made an entire game that's just the worst parts of escape from tarkov and hell let loose put together
>>582240636Anon made $160K from this single game, just doing this
>>582240501Wow I totally concede my point. The game SHOULD cater to dad gamers with no friends who think they deserve participation rewards for loading in and getting ass fucked relentlessly. Consider this my concession!
>>582240437I'm sure I didn't lose to gear when their head nigger with thermals peeked me the same angle 3 times and every time i sent a 7.62 round into his head it just bounced off.Nothing more demoralizing then making a split second flick headshot and hearing that "fuck you, faggot" DING armor hit sound. I'm just half a level off the SV98 (which, by the way, also doesn't pen t3 helmets with FMJ, and neither does the MK22, meaning the only viable sniper that onetaps lvl3 and up armor to head is the fucking 50cal), and I probably won't even approach the MK22 before they wipe the game. Literally why would I play recon if this is the case? Not to mention long-range, out of CZ sniping is completely troll to do because not only you don't get passive CZ cash your kill money gets penalized the further you're out of the zone as well.
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>>582241173>every time i sent a 7.62 round into his head it just bounced offThen stop trying to onetap him you fucking oaf. It's not going to work. Do you have brain damage? >Literally why would I play recon if this is the case?To perform reconnaissance, ideally with a spotting scope. You stupid monkey. It's always the reconcucks crying, even though if they actually do their job properly it's the highest reward to lowest risk activity in the game.
>>582241173Once you get the ap ammo for 7.62x54r you'll be fine.
>>582242519>Then stop trying to onetap himThen what else am i supposed to fucking do you dense motherfucker? Watch as he just keeps killing everyone with impunity because nobody has two fucking braincells to buy grenades? Even better, we had TWO fucking artillery trucks shelling empty space and ignoring desperate pleas in team chat to please shell the top of the fucking tower for free kills. We need to stop the fucking cope about this shit immediately, this is exactly what killed tarkov and it will be what kills this game especially if they keep the wipes short because the vast majority of the playerbase will never ever level up enough to combat the poopsocker menace.
>>582241173pretty sure the mosin and sv98 do exactly the same damage numbers, and AP ammo one taps heads except for t4 helmet. Anyway, recon is more about hunting fobbits and spotting, fighting other snipers is a colossal waste of time that could be spent spotting.
>>582243127>Then what else am i supposed to fucking do you dense motherfucker?retreat, when you do everything you can and your players in positions to help you either cant or wont (because they're retarded) then you just have to cut your losses and go do something elsealso playing solo in this game vs playing with a group of even two friends changes the experience massively
>>582243127You lose. That's what happens. Your team is giga gapped, and you aren't a one man army. The progression systems in these games are the only reason anyone gives a fuck. Tarkov didn't die because of it. The progression was the only reason anyone tried it in the first place. Plus, Tarkov functionally released in 2016 (no, nobody gives a fuck about "1.0" updates) and is still popular enough to be playable 10 years later.Battlefield 6 is a year old and but has comparable numbers to Tarkov. If progression systems are "killing" these games, explain that. Doesn't bf6 have horizontal progression? Then why is it "dead"?
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>>582244227yeah bro people love playing tarkov that's why majority of the playerbase stops playing pvp because its all poopsocks and cheaters levelling up accounts to then sellriddle me this, what happens to this game when that happens and there's no pve part to go to?>inb4 level locked serversnobody is going to be playing those and you know it
>>582244227omg stfu, skinnerbox addicted freaks dont count as people
>>582244239why is his tailhook down for a land landing
>what else am i supposed to fucking do you dense motherfucker?the game is designed to let the geared chuds farm the noob chuds because it boosts engagement more than a skill based game. you are supposed to get forced loss and forced win fights because it feels like you are playing a game no matter your skill level, so all the troglodytes can imagine they're really playing a gamesee tarkov war thunder etc.>>582245007CORRECT>>582244913CORRECT + 4k players is actually a good thing
>>582245117>4k players is actually a good thingit wont be when the publicly traded publisher wants an actual return on investment, notice how bulkhead said they'd never sell cosmetics.. but failed to mention that they wouldn't sell blatant p2w
I've been selling IR goggles for 100% markups at spawn and it always sells out :)>I'll destroy it heheYou can't destroy crates at spawn
>>58224531350% publisher cut * 30% steam cut * 20% dying island "empire" tax * 5% unreal tax they have already talked about selling p2w, they are gonna rush EA and get the mtx in asap
>>582240842>I've got a double barrel and a dreamthat's not all you have
I can't fucking level assaultIt's not that I am not getting kills, I do, but it seems to not do anything
>>582245070he's a Lonestar main
>>582245561wanna play together so you can buy them for your best buddy haha...
>>582245763well yes I do have my massive fat cock but I thought it'd be too lewd to mention
game looks and plays like ass ngl
>>582237438>be fobbit getting shelled>build stingray>die to shells>build stingray in another corner of the fob>die to shells>build stingray in another corner of the fob with a triple layered wall in front of it>launch stingray>eventually spot artillery, youre mine fucker>die to mortars
>>582244913>riddle me this, what happens to this game when that happens and there's no pve part to go to?People will move on?It's a videogame, not a career. I'll be done with this game way before it dies. But I wouldn't have bothered in the first place without the progression and economy mechanics.
>>582246296I'm a chinkypoo... also I've mostly just rotate between NA, EU and OCX then get on Blue just to sell itemsI dont even play the game normally, I just pretend I'm a wardog weapons sellerYou need 50cal? I'll sell it. You need AP? I'll sell it. You wanna get on arty tank for funny? Yeah tell me and I'll buy it for you but just trade me with the T3 armor full set at least
>>582246618You should already have a stingray ready, you're sitting in a fob doing fuck all and they cost nothing to build. The instant you recognize the arty shell your next step is to look up and see where they come from. Then you hop on one of your stingrays and kill him while he's busy lining up shots on your APC/drill.You also can go to one of the many solo fobbit satellite fobs and use up their otherwise useless supplies to fire off a stingray. Not like arty players ever waste shells on solo fobs.
does anyone have any fob designs for duos/trios?preferably with a mortar + AA and at least some deadzone coverage for defending?i can't seem to build anything competent or compact enough
>>582247820Most competent and independent fobbit
>>582248076is it really that bad?oh, who am i kidding asking those questions, of course it is.
>have chatgpt make me a no recoil script for my g502>all guns turn into lasers because recoil is mostly verticalfinally makes sense now
>>582247465even if you have it ready it's still a 50% chance you get shelled/mortared/raided/helicoptered before you can even land the shotin the last game i played the enemy artillery was coordinating with mortars and if they saw a single stingray launcher on their shell cam then moments later 6 mortars started dropping on its face
>>582248584shell cams have to goalso tank cam has got to go, makes it impossible to run up with C4 cause lmg gunner is fed wh-tier info
Artytards are retarded and predictable anyway. They see one artytard sitting in a spot so they go to that same spot. Once you find one you find them all. It almost feels fucking boring hunting them in a rocket bird.
>>582244239fuck i love the look of old anime
>>582245313>>582245613You stupid fucking retards, with the 2 million copies sold, they will have repaid the publisher and the bank loan. All the extra money goes towards servers, anticheat and ongoing development. You have 12-24 months until full release. If the game is ruined after that, you still got your moneys worth, and if they add a way to buy cash or gold with RMT, then theyve broken a development promise and steam will give you a full refund regardless of hours played.
>spotting>watch the same dude kill the same duo in an apache 4 times with a ciwslmao
it's free money
>>582244913>50% pvegenuinely how do people enjoy thisi tried SPT-AKI a while ago and got bored after 3 raidsthe AI is not interesting to fight, the levels are just... places, and the idea of progression feels meaningless in this context
>>582204462I think it's a combination of tick rate and jittery collision physics. Sometimes no matter how smoothly you try to land there's like a slight rubberbanding that causes you to tip. Similar kind of thing happens if you try to drop a pallet while nose up.
>waaaaahhhhh i cant kill the armored chudslmao
>4.0 k/d with the bmri think this gun might be pretty good bros
>>582250936>AP ammo and still awful TTKs
OH DEAR LORD IVE PUT 10 MAGAZINES INTO THESE SWEATBUCKETS THEY LITERALLY CANT DIE
>>582250936>>582252465>1mb>1.36mbanon please, lend those jaggies some bitratelet 'em breathe
>>582250936*Kills you in half the time from 150 meters away*G8 with AP is gr-AAAAAAACCCKKKKK
>>582241032I deserve a kill for being a more talented player than you with better aim, movement, gamesense and skills. You don't deserve infinite get out of jail free cards for having a high boredom tolerance while being unemployed and sad enough to spend 13 hours a day on a game. Pathetic.
>>582252465nigga thinks endgame engagement range is within 50 metersLMAAAOOOOOO yeah both are good options if you're a fobbit defending against raiders but outside fobs, you're deadweight
>>582252814>>582252980well you're in luck, you don't have to use the GGX 18 at long range, because it is a secondary! there's actually a full extra slot you can dedicate to guns capable of fighting at medium-to-long rangeand hey, even if that wasn't the case, the switch (like the one this glock has, lol!) from CQC to fighting in the woods is distinct enough that a sling bag lets you change roles instantlythere's also something to say about the T4's mobility-rape making you the dead weight in the forest-fighting scenarios, but that's neither here nor there haha!
>>582252465AP 9mm requires rank 75, these shitty videos are meaningless...
>>58225343975 is like 2 days of playing retard
Game's only good for the first 4 days after wipe then its just nolifers farming casuals and dads.We've had 10 years solving Tarkov issue, why would they pull the same thing lmfao
>>582253540>just grind for 48 hours bro
>>58225366475 is like 1/10th the exp of what level 160 shitbuckets are. if you haven't made it that far it's over for you.
>>582253393Almost everyone uses T4 now on hz fighting. You're just asking to get one tapped by 50 cal and GL spams from little bird if you weren't.
>>582253439>>582253664Anon's bad at the game and needs to outfarm casuals just so he can feel good about killing people with lower gear than them anonJust let him be
>>582253439the first 9 levels in any role are basically free in terms of XP and 10-14 aren't far off>>582253834and other shit larpers say
>>582228751>currently it's clear they're trying to find their footing with balance.then maybe they should be putting out patches faster
I dont get fob-cucksI dont get logi-cucksI dont get pilot-cucksI dont get recon-cucksI dont get sniper-cucksI sure as hell dont get mortar/artillery-cucksSure fighting on the frontline with a blob of allies can be fun, but knowing that im sharing a server with a bunch of cucks kinda dampens the mood
>>582253540maybe 2 days at the start when no one has any gear or knows what they're doingnow you have to deal with t4 armor, ghillies, thermal spotters, artillery, heli rapeeven as a humble logi driver you have to deal with land mines, back line raiders, helisall of these put together on the back foot slows progression probably more than 50%
>>582254156>wins lategame>supports lategame wins>only good for the first 10-20m>wh's your entire team>mostly a support role for the blob>nukes fobbits
Didn't they say that PvE is working but buggy as fuck.100% they're gonna add pve mode like Tarkov
>>582254613go back to wherever you came from
>>582254497I'm not disagreeing with those points, but if we assume that winning is pointless (which it is btw (doubly so since even if the victory bonus was a lot, money is pointless if you have even a semblance of skill)) I still dont get how those cucks enjoy doing those banal activities. Guess Im just too cool huh :=)
>>582254613>>582254820Only as a prototype so far so there's a chance for it to be added ingame just like the infinite money arcade mode where you can buy anything you want but won't gain money to your account
What's a good way to get consistent but manageable combat as a solo? I've tried sticking to the HZ and it's a very mixed bag, and more often than not it actually results in me getting even less combat somehow.
At what point did a certain set of gamers start conflating grind with ability. First time I remember was rust. We had a crew who were playing it and one was a major autismo who didn't sleep or leave his house for the 48 hours in between our sessions and just played it on his own. When we logged on he thought we'd all be impressed that he just speed ran the server and had an infinite amount of everything we'd need. Instead we were just like, okay, what do we play now?His only contact with any of us now is occasionally steam messaging my girlfriend to say he's going to kill himself. These are the people who defend this grind to win shit.
>>582256186drive the apc to an enemy fob where their apc likely is, if you really want to see sparks fly.
doesn't matter how much balance there is 10% of this game is wallhacking and you're getting shot through smoke
>>582256982while its true there are hackers the thermals are currently broken and can give you walls for free
>>582256447>At what point did a certain set of gamers start conflating grind with abilityDepending on your definition you have a few options:-Gilgamesh creating the first serf class by using military force to consolidate the local tribes-Some guy in early 1900s New York while creating the modern white collar work place formula-Poopsockers in Everquet
>>582256982Thermal goggles gives you literal wallhacks brosEveryone carries them
>>582257127>>582257376>MUH THERMALSthey're level 30s on new accounts beaming 10 guys at once with an ak
>>582256447it's some internal conflation of grind and accomplishment i thinkto be good at anything requires grinding, and accomplishment is the feeling reaching a goal gives youhowever, to grind something that does not make you skilled yet expecting others to share in your sense of accomplishment is the whiff here
>>582257376It's like the devs never actually played ARMA otherwise they would have known what this shit ends up doing to a game. Might as well just go full retard and add the Nightstalker at this point
>>582257428I mean I'm not denying hacks (I got killed by changs humvees from behind the wall) but people are selling thermals for 75-100% markups right now
>>582256186>What's a good way to get consistent but manageable combat as a solo? I've tried sticking to the HZ and it's a very mixed bag, and more often than not it actually results in me getting even less combat somehow.this is not a supported playstyle, or as the CEO would say "this game isn't for you, cuck">>582254287>all of these put together on the back foot slows progression probably more than 50%this is on purpose, noobs are cattle for the nolife whales who will spend $1000 on mtx xp boosters
>>582256447>what point did a certain set of gamers start conflating grind with abilityThere is skill and talent involved with grinding no matter how much people like to think anyone could do it. I played WoW classic and there was no world I was going to be able to do the pvp grind for the high warlord title. At it's peak difficulty it required 22 hour days 6 days a week of sitting at a desk playing battlegrounds with world pvp in between. Your "off-day" usually needed another 12 hours, but required constant vigilance and scouting of other players not in the regimented pvp circles to make sure you were still out grinding them. People lost families and jobs over this, and many weren't able to finish. There was also a hidden social aspect to it that is also present here. The people that can maintain relationships while doing these crazy long hours are "skilled".
people really think this small family company making slop with unreal engine with their in-house anti-cheat is going to do anything about DMA>just wait bro they're collecting data to train an AI that watches every person play and instantly find out if they're wallingthis is exactly the same as tarkov and arc raiders
>>582256447>At what point did a certain set of gamers start conflating grind with abilityI get that due to the way the brain and ego function, most people massively overrate their own talent and will point out any advantage others have to try and ease the cognitive dissonance of their perceived skill vs their actual performance.But you gotta get over it. 99% of people improve as they practice things. Most of those guys you run in to with giga endgame kits would also very likely rape you if the odds were even. >But they used xyz exploit and if I wasn't employed I would be just as far and if the game was better my 4k hours in CS source 20 years go would transfer andAnd your teachers told you that you were special in school and if the material wasn't so easy you would have met your potential and would be driving a sports car and banging models with your 500k salary. We know.
>>582258742so this poopsocket of yours, did you make it yourself or is there like a site that sells them?
>>582249595
this general dying lol?
So what do I rush on next wipe if I want to pubstomp casuals and dads?
>>582261148/vm/ migration on october 15th friend
>>582252465>no shadows>recoil macro>shooting standing still targets
>>582252465>>582250936>>582253540Level 75 for AP 9mm is 15 levels after 3 armor gets unlocked and 25 before 4 armor gets unlocked. The GGX18 is level 70, 10 levels after 3 armor. The magazine you're using on it is level 80. The magazine you're using on the SMG is level 20 medic.All that these posts show is that people with shit buckets get access to kit that counters their shitbucket armor, and that you are a smelly manchild with no life and a bucket of shit in your room.
entire progression system needs to be removed and made in-match only similar to cs
>>582261227The 249 or the humvee I strongly doubt they're going to nerf either of them correctly.
>>582261984>in-matchAnon, that's just glorified killstreaks. Cash should be the exp rather than exp being exp. The military hardware should be more expensive but there should be no 'level 35 to unlock' in a game where the whole gimmick is getting paid for mercenary work.
TIL being a jewish death merchant gives me support exp AND money if they killed someone or had spotting assist with my merchandiseWhat do people buy the most? Thermals? 50 cals? FALs?
>>582258742Imagine being this deep in cope.There's a reason tarkov grind mules don't fuck with CS or arena shooters or fighting games. It's cause they couldn't hang with a level playing field and their only superpower is their terminal unemployment.
>>582219692The game needs wipes
>>582262047If he's solo then grinding recon hard to ghilli, 50 cal and thermal is far better than humvee.If he has a friend then m249 humvee is going to demolish and pubstomp people for 2-3 days before MAAWs are unlocked. This is all rhetorical though because they plan on rebalancing unlock paths on season 2
>>582261984I read someone propose it should be like real time strategy, where everyone starts with dirt gear and you unlock shit as a team by mining fuel with the drills and buy your shit with a set 10k buy in+ what you've earned in the game.I'd never go near the main game again if there was a mode like that.
>>582262996And thus the player base splits once more...
>>582262669If those "tarkov grind mules" are such shitters, then gear advantages really just even the playing field for a god gamer like you.If you don't think you can compete, then don't. Nobodies forcing you.
servers fucked? na west
>>582263802>A balanced mode with an evolving gamestate that you can play once a week and not be at a disadvantageVs>A grindfest unlock hamster wheel where people who are surgically attached to their secretlab chair dunk on you with their l33t loudout and million dollar bankrollI wonder which will have more appeal
>>582264804Considering battlefield is deader than shit and this game is still breaking 6 figures daily, I'm gonna go with option 2Niggas love progression. Is what it is
>>582264804I don't want to be reset, I like the stuff I unlocked.
The seethe about the "unemployed" everywhere this game is discussed is very amusing to me. Stay mad wagies.
This is why they should add a prestige mechanic.Get to level 100 in a role and you get to pick one (1) item to stay unlocked permanently throughout the wipes.Ideally you would also offer other things like skins, skins can be a decent motivatorThis way they can keep the wipes they so desperately want and still rape peoples engagement meter
>>582256186get a ghillie suit and go choose your engagementsmy particular favorite is shooting one guy down in the open and then killing everyone who comes to rez himeventually you'll have 10 people all trying to kill you just so they can rez the stack of bodies you've madebonus points if you manage to set up close enough to body trap the body stack with c4
>>582264516>If those "tarkov grind mules" are such shitters, then gear advantages really just even the playing field for a god gamer like you.Why has there literally not ever been one single grind-mule-game player who has transitioned from their shitty grind game to a legit esport to farm the big bux? Those faggots are already spending 12 hours a day on EFT or whatever, so it's not like the increased workload or commitment is the barrier, yet they can't transfer the skills to CS, Valorant, or hell, even PUBG, to earn literal fucking millions a year? The answer is because they're utter dogshit mechanically and the progression systems are a crutch to make them feel like they're good - they're addicted to that feeling.>If you don't think you can compete, then don't. Nobodies forcing you.I already dipped, senpai. I came to this general to remind you, personally, that you are dogshit at video games and have no life. I'll be back if the progression system gets overhauled to act like pesticide to get talentless cockroaches like you out of the game.
>>582265006Battlefield 6 was also 6 figures for the first 3 months.We'll have to see whats the player numbers gonna be after the first wipe.
>>582266023Its going to start off with 200k after wipe then drop hard to 80 then 30k imo
>>582258742>Most of those guys you run in to with giga endgame kits would also very likely rape you if the odds were evenmostlysbut if you take this as a fact, then gear progression is ass-backwardsbecause the people who play enough to be notably better than the average player also getting a bunch of toys they can abuse uncontested (because the counter to these tools also require grinding) is kinda retarded, no?
PvE mode will save the game
>someone mentions a guy is 40 kills in and zero downs with a vac on his account and he starts crashing out defending himself in chatpathetic
>>582265006Battlefield is dead because it's a giga dumbed down ADHD consoloified temu Cod.When everyone was loving wardogs for the first week, absolutely nobody was like "yeah I can't wait till the ttk gets completely fucked up by T4 gear and gigasweats can buy literal wallhacks"
>>582265839>a legit esport to farm the big bux?Anon, esports have been on the decline for literally a decade. There's no "big money" to be made.The people don't want perfectly skill based games. They want games that are fun. The "unfairness", doesn't bother regular people that much.
>>582267182If you had friends they would be quick to tell you how wack this shit is. But you don't, so you sit with your gold nova CS rating and plat 2 cammy, finally able to break a 0.5 kd thanks to tactlessly grinding every waking moment into a soon to be wiped videogame and tell your autistic ass that "I earned this"
just about had it with these server crashes/disconnects today
>battlefield is dead because its playercount on steam isn't top 10steamcharts has done a number on this website's capacity for critical thinking
>buy cheap gun, level 2 armor, meds>find squad with 8 people>get wiped immediately and lose 10k repeatedly>stay in fob and res people>+$100k and don't need a gunwhy would I leave?
>>582268490cause this gets boring quickly
>>582269145Not that anon, but what if it doesn't? What if running around reviving/stimming my bros and engaging in banter is the OPTIMAL way to play?
>>582268490infantry kits are too expensive and everything else is too cheap
>>582269593i mean if you havent done it before i guess you might enjoy it for a bit longer but eventually it becomes the kind of thing you only do every now and then if you feel like it. especially once you learn you get diminishing returns from repeat revives
>>582269886just take an amp-9 and a defib with smoke grenades into the hz with your team and you'll get plenty of profit and more expensive gear and weapons from enemy corpses
I try to be a Blue defender, but holy fuck does every blue team I join suck ass
>>582270606i mean yeah that works but it doesn't defeat what im saying
>>582270748special forces
>>582268490HZ gives 2x money and 2x exp.Squad suicide-airdropping into HZ is unironically highly variable for infantry grinding because with the 2x multiplier all it takes is one kill, one assist, and one revive and you already make 12k and breakeven.
>>582262318i don't know that this works properly with thermal spotters
>>582267182Players at the top end of T1 CS command salaries of around $600k/y, and at the bottom end around $120k/y. Even washed T1 players are also still clearing over $100k/y in prize winnings as well. Even for literal who esports like PUBG, salaries for players in T1 teams are in the $60k-120k per year range and average prize purse earnings are $30-100k/y.This is more per year than anyone has ever made in total from playing EFT. If any of the EFT shitters were actually mechanically good then they'd have transitioned to a real esports shooter and made a living off their disgusting ongoing time investments in playing FPS. None have because they are all dogshit and rely on a progression gated shooter to act as a crutch to their inferior skills and make them feel good at games.
i love not having a minimap randomly
probably shit but worth a try i guess?combining deadzone coverage and fortifications is basically impossible, you're either swiss cheese or you can't see shit
>>582246653>>582246653>It's a videogame, not a career. I'll be done with this game way before it dies.Lmao ADHD zoomers with tiktok brain are pathetic. They need a new game every week to satisfy their brainrot. Try upping your meds.
>>582272296You didn’t renew your subscription
>>582273434pveniggers have to go
>>582239418>Third time just copying something 1:1 and still failing.wait what are their 2 other times?
>>582219414this is fucking cope and cherrypicked, wearing t4 armour means you need to pop a stim every 30 seconds to keep running as opposed to waddling, half the player base are either using aimbot or no recoil scripts which are extremely common and popular in rust and this game attracts the same type of players that play rust, i run around with t4 armour and i still die instantly, last game i fully kitted in t4, spawned, ran a little bit (after having to stim and fuck up my fov with blur and a green hue) took 7 shots in the head instantly and my helmet was on 25% durability, all the retards crying about t4 armour will get it , still be shit and then quit. the only thing worth complaining about is rocket helis, they counter havocs, they counter other helis, they counter any ground vehicle, they counter fobs >bbbut c-ram!!!ok bro, you get off the cram for 20 seconds and this rocket heli ascends over the horizon of your walls and the entire team is wiped
>>582270748CuckStar PMCAlways watching Never winning
>>582274912>half the player base are either using aimbot or no recoil scriptsBro, what? This game already has no recoil or actual aiming mechanics. Wtf?
>>582274912cram cant aim straight up so it's pretty much useless without being covered by sams/verbas permanently from somewhere else on the map
>>582240136if you werent retarded you would have gotten the $200 grenade that' available to anybody and blown them up.
>>582275267every time i buy grenades the only opportunity i have to use them is deterrence :(
>>582268490this but dropping fat loads in the UH60 the whole match
>>582272907uhhhh.... okay...
This game’s turning sour like it’s just nothing ever happens and random juiced squads going hunting How was this game marketed this hard being made for casuals who miss old fps games? This shits gonna crash and burn hard
>>582276490getting a good close game is hard but once you get one its like crack
>>582276202If you put a building down, don't build it, and then delete the thing above it, it doesn't go away.
>>582276490The game just kinda devolves into everyone trying to do their own xp farm. It has utterly ass lows but really high highs
>>582276490>being made for casuals who miss old fps gamesjust in, modern gaymers are more bitchmade than ever
>>582276946this doesnt make any sense
>>582277991Sorry you're right.>step 1 build thing on ground level>step 2 place an unfinished building above it>step 3 delete the thing from step 1>step 4 finish building thing from step 2>thing from step 2 now floats
>A team gets 20 points>three missile little birds and one havoc spawn in>They rape our AA defenses, destroy our FoB and spend the next 30 minutes farming our teamVery cool another epic airnigger victory
>>582278634so where's your counter-measures
I just unlocked the Verba, i just want to get the maaws launch before wipe thr RPG is fucking ass
>>582278759they got raped, obviously
>>582279781>we didn't build anyyikes
>>582278759there's no counter measure.a rocket heli is 5k. a verba is 2k. and you need 3 verbas minimum to kill anything because they spawn with 2 flares.any static defense will be overwhelmed. you only need 1 person to fly a rocket bird so a team can have 20 rocket birds in the air with 10 men on the ground.
>>582281083so you're saying you've only played the game in theory
>>582281083erm.. doomsis? you're gonna want to update your script>verbas are $800
>>582281083Rocket birds are 12.5k nigga. Then you gotta have standard pilot loadout of t3 helm/armor/ruck backpack/drill/bandages which is like 5k then gotta fill on rockets which is like another 3k to make a normal rocket bird loadout to come to like 20k.In order to break even as fast as you would with a spotting or fobbit or medic kit(like 5 min if that) you need to solo farm a fob that is too retarded to just fucking shoot rpg's/maaws at you or hunt down both apc's.They are high risk high reward af. You can get 50k in 10 min in the right circumstances but you will have to work for it and know how to fly well.
why should I buy and play this game over arma reforger? it seems like a worse version of reforger other than slightly smoother interface stuff
>Retards trying to act as if Helis are shitCopium supplies must be boomingAA is dogshit vs any heli pilot with a brain iq higher than a wooden spoon
>>582281841It's not as autistic and hardcore as arma. If all you want is the most realistic shooter possible, then don't bother.
Just made $187k profit supplying a fob
>>582282274like everything in the game, they're good in circumstances where their counters aren't presentthey have plenty of effective counters though
>>582277794Why do you talk like a ruslim?
>>582282998You can outrange every AA in the game with a Havoc. If you are not a titanic mouthbreather then the only air counter in the game right now is other air.
>>582283214i don't understand why people who haven't played the game post so adamantly about its mechanics in this thread
I cannot recall the last time I played a game and had less fun than this. Bought it yesterday, played ten hours over yesterday and today seeing if it got good with some unlocks. It didn't. Every single minute was boring and frustrating. I do not think I had fun for even a moment.I think this is the worst game I've ever tried, bar none. Anyone who plays this must be an absolute retard.
nothing like having to afk the last 15min of a game because blue becomes the hacker team. Also I want to throat punch anyone who says you're "crying" when all you do is state a fact in chat. I guarantee those little faggots keep that dumbass attitude of theirs confined to online only because they would get BTFO mouthing off like that in person.
>>582281526>you will have to work for it and know how to fly well.Yeah, okay. Lobbing 15 AoE rockets in infantries general direction is very hard work. Also anyone who grinded pilot for 80 hours to unlock the rocket LB knows how to fly. The minigun LB is tough to break even with, the rocket LB is a joke to turn a profit.
>>582283317The 30mm outranges the 20mm CIWS and Verba. I am sorry you are retarded.
>>582282998Unless you are operating a discord sissy fobbit squad you will NOT have counter measures up when the Havocs show up.
>>582283497>>582283517>>582283789>>582283985>>582283994is it just one guy who hasn't played the game making nonsense replies with a couple ai agents backing him up with vagueposts...?
>>582250936how do you get your game to look like that
>>582284882Cheating.
>>582282998the only counter to a heli is a sam site at one fob and a ciws at another able to protect each other because a ciws cant aim straight up and a sam site cant lock below a certain altitudeeven then a bird that can correctly weave flares at the lock floor is unkillable
>>582285240>>582284882See: >>582261470. Either trick the game into thinking you actually have a potato graphics card or use an internal cheat to disable the check and set the shadows off/use chams. The reversal thread for Wardogs on the main public cheating forum is 750 posts long and there have been cheats since June for it.
>>582284565Yeah that's definitely what it is. Are you paid in rupees to white knight for this mess of a game, or do you do it for free?
>>582285524>>582284565the fuck?
>>582285389just open the config file and manually set shadow quality to 4you have to re-do it every time you close the game though
>>582285524>>582285615lolthe doomposting is so inorganic it's unreal
>>582284565>>582285524>>582285615Holy fuck, are (You) me as well?
>>582284565>>582285524>>582285615>>582285904Lol forgot to attach screenshot.
wait..
>>582284565Yeah, it's me. How did you figure me out?
>>582286082We need to get our story straight before this gets out of hand and he catches me.
Is it just me or is for every one good game with all three teams pushing and moving around the map there's 10 where two teams are drooling retards doing literally nothing while one bulldozes the map with zero resistanceits seriously so fucking boring, both as the team winning and the team losing
>look at community servers>not a single hardcore or infantry only server uplame
>>582287217cuz that shit is boring cuh*mortars your ass*
>unlock rocket heli>aww yea, too bad you can't aim with the mouse or have a crosshair in third person>get some kills>it doesnt hold enough rockets at once>faggots just shoot missiles and CRAM at you>get arty tank to shoot their gay little drill and aa spam base>blows me up with drone>exit gameyeah after 140 hours this isn't fun anymore
>>582288692happens
>littlebird>guys running towards it, few seats left>some russian starts yelling at me to GO GO GO>fuck you i wont do what you tell me>gonna fly them to edge of map and kick them out>he starts yelling at me more asking where im going>tell him that he doesnt get to tell me what to do>punches me to death>result
Got banned from a server "for griefing" the other day because I was hiding on some hills with a rangefinder and a truck full of stingers. God forbid heliniggers not get to fly around unimpeded.
>>582224093Most slow shooters have peeker's advantageThis one makes it worse by having 30 tickrate servers and extremely low TTK on high level guns. You're getting instakilled because by the time the server sent you the info the other guy already saw you and unloaded inside you. The solution is simple, be the guy who peeks.
>>582288882almost a get fml>they revived each other and were still running back to hq ten minutes later>kamikaze a lakota into the group of them>leave
>>582288982
>>582270748Last night I played two blue games on different servers, in both of them blues built their FOB outside of cz and had like 6 people just sitting there not building mortars or anything and it wasn't even on OzetiI can't build a FOB and carry MAAWS at the same time and I'd rather hunt humvee niggers than get farmed trying to build a FOB for retards
>>582288692>too bad you can't aim with the mouseuhm...
>>582289273I know about mouse flight controls, I played with it but still prefer keyboard somehow. I want to be able to move the mouse and aim where the rockets will go, not have to move the entire helicopter. I just want BF4 heli controls, I'm a god in that.
Next wipe, I'm going to hard focus on recon so I can unlock ghillie and 50 cal fasterNot gonna deal with vics anymore, just gonna be a nigger in a ghillie on a hill
>>582285524>N-No im not the indian, you're the indianThe devs of this game only had a 300k marketing budget, they spent 100k on that stupid clip competition and the rest on their FPS games show because they were too cheap to buy an ad slop at an actual games showcase.Do you really think people that cheap would be paying turd worlders to shill on a Taiwanese kite flying forum?
>>582287217The 50v50 servers usually have a decent population and I had fun on those. More teammates means more zone chasing and action, and removing blues means that you don't have to worry about getting flanked if you want to build or run logistics.
>save 500k for arty tank>buy arty tank with the last of my money>hiding in a treeline >enemy rocket helicopter immediately zeroes in on me and blows me up before I even fire one shell offso sick of hacking niggers. behead them all irl.
>does it for free
>>582265493>get to level 100 in a rolenobody is getting to 100 in assault bro. maybe 50.
trannies will get to themselves before the anti cheat will
>>582288692heliniggers shouldn't get to have fun, like 90% of you cheat anyways on top of being dog shit enough to abuse boosted overpowered vehicles to dodge having to get your ego bruised on repeat on infantry (the only actually skillful part of the game). hang yourself.
>>582289382>I'm a godNo you're not. You abuse overtuned vehicles. You were never good at anything you fat retard.
is this the worst AC performance we've ever seen on release chat?
quite possibly. valve games suck so hard too.
is the bow worth buying from recon? i'm tired of the mosin already and I know i'm woefully behind the curve on recon
>>582292932name one anticheat
>>582293513It was before the game had 99 gorillion wallhackers, arty, havocs and 3&4 armor. It would be an exercise in suffering now.
>>582293660EAC, Zakthanos, Theia, VAC, ACE, Battleye.......
>>582293513Not really, since everyone is running around in t3+ armor. I think it does 48 damage on chest shot to t3, its really bad. Probably worked for the first few days if you rushed it.
>>582292674>You were never good at anything you fat retard.Do you say this in the mirror while cutting yourself?
>>582294479lmao HEEMED that trvthdropper
>>582294479ratio'd you fat retard
>>582292932this week I had atleast one cheater in every single match
>>582293828none of them workcurious
why is it such a cunt leveling up building
already too far behind just going to wait for the reset
Official Low Rank Servers will not save the game and will turn into EXP Larp servers.
Literally all servers down right now, they forgot to pay their AWS bill.
>team is losing>like 12 guys in the fob>fuck it do logi because infantry is just going to be infinitely losing money because no support>not paying attention on a trip to the CZ in my ural>partisan misses a humvee ram>honk and keep going>return trip>same route>hits me with 2 rpgs>honk and keep on drivingCome back when you have MAAWs or AT mines, buddy pal.
>>582271676top EFT streamers make millions every year. being a salary cuck for an 'esport steam' is extremely cringe in 2026 unless youre literally the #1 player and can negotiate a deal
It's Down.
>>582298793Indie devs blew up then rugpulled, god it happened again.
doomgod won
>>582298614EOS
https://x.com/WARDOGS/status/2103432678322156002ohdamn, no in-game pop-up? no wind-down of hey, matches won't be joinable starting at this time (whatever their 75th percentile full-match time is), in-progress matches will go until they end, and we wrap up any that are still going on at 11 (with in-game pop-ups)damn. nah. just 48m of warning on twitter and then BAMi was just aboutta fuck their pussies with my mortar fob too
>>582299303All game devs just assume gamers are glued to reddit and discord nowadays, what the fuck ever happened to a bulletin board, MOTD banner, or hell even fan forums?
IT'S OVERTHE WIPE CAME EARLYAND IT'S EVERYTHINGALL YOUR MONEYALL YOUR GEARTHEY WON'T IMPLEMENT THE SKILL SYSTEM (YET)TIME TO RISE AND RE-GRIND NEETS
Time to doordash and goon i guess
>>582298726Firstly, no they didn't. Secondly, those CS players are streaming to a bigger audience than any EFT streamer on the side for pocket money.
>>582254156I only run logi when I'm on a horrifically losing team and want to farm money. Dumping pallets is still good cash for little to no risk especially if your team built a dumb little cuck fob at the edge of the map that is barely used or hit.
>>582299398>All game devs just assume gamers are glued to reddit and discord nowadaysits because they are.>hurr why are people using these zoomer communication apps instead of these boomer comm apps i prefer
>>582299398god i miss forumsi like discord, it's convenient for its supposed intended purposebut the behemoth it's become where it's the primary platform of engagement for games, fuck it's so cancerand they STILL haven't made their search functional nor exposed their back-end to a service that could. god damn information black hole tar pit
>>582299794Fair enough, I guess I am getting old. But I sense a hint of attitude, be warned, one day this will happen to (you).
>>582299798>and they STILL haven't made their search functional nor exposed their back-end to a service that could.Dude, that's deliberate. The value of that data is the only thing that lets their business make sense. As if they'd let people search it without paying. If something is free, you're not the customer, you're the product.
>>582299948it wont because i accept change and the world as it is
Can we take a second to talk about the insane amount of team stacking that goes on?I don't need a psychology lesson behind the reasoning for everyone wanting to play Green team. There are a variety of reasons.I just think it's extremely unhealthy for the game if over half of all games are an absolute blowout 100-0-0 Green victory that ends in 20 minutes flat. In almost every one of these games, I check the scoreboards and see that green has maybe 1-5 players that are below level 80, with several 100+ players. Red is usually a bit more even (mostly from runoff of people who CAN'T get onto green team), with a few new players and a few high levels, and then Blue has HALF their team under level 50.Not tryna call anyone out here, but this is creating a HORRIBLE new player experience for anyone picking up the game.TL:DR; If you find yourself thinking, "Damn I want to WIN this game, lemme go Green team!" just take a second and consider the ramifications of that train of thought long-term.
Do you get the same exp on a supply chest containing 1 singular item as you do a full chest on just the drop? Want to grind pilot exp without wasting too much money and will drop singular bandages or build supplies.
>>582299798>and they STILL haven't made their search functional nor exposed their back-end to a service that couldThere are already enough fucking problems with governments wanting to lock down the internet and you want the governments to be able to search for fuel for their propoganda?
>>582299794MOTD on the fucking game menu? hello?
>>582300315If you were truly Chudda you would know that there is not choice in acceptance, either it is tolerable or it is not. You overestimate the will.
>>582300334i havent seen green team win that wasnt a direct result of blue meddling in a few days now
>>582300368Yes, I grinded Driver 35 with loading 1 bandage in 4 large chests in the ural for like 50 hours straight.
>>582300562this literally makes no sense. gibberish non-sense is not wisdom.
>>582300589Wtf does that even mean? You think it's more likely that blue is intentionally sabotaging red than high level players wanting to play with other high level players and shit on newbies?The fuck kinda delusional crack copium is that?
I got my first infantry kill with the minigun copter today. He was standing perfectly still, pinned in a corner while shooting at me (telling me his exact location), but it still counts. Before now I've only taken out other copters including the big expensive one.
>>582300334The main problem is that red and green actually play the objective. The dice roll is whichever wins gets the influx of the people that want to win instead of just wanting to play infantry. Infantry is miserable solo. Blue is the waiting room or the group of people that are unable to play together on the winning teams. I've seen it ping pong between red and green dominating with occasionally blue getting their shit together. You can usually tell how a game is going to go 5 minutes in when there's 7+ people at the tower.
>>582300770green winning because blue decides it is more important to spam artillery/mortar on red while green drillsgreen winning because of blue flanking red who is pushing on green who owns hzi see this much more often than vice versa, either because of chance or because of spawn locations and particular hz location alignment
>>582300334>100-0-0 Green victory that ends in 20 minutes flat.well it takes minimum 50 minutes as you gain 1 point every 30 seconds.but i dont give a shit about the ramification, hate the devs not hte players, not my fault they made these stupid rules.
>>582300687if ur using a ural it's better to get pallets as you get more xp and money
>>582300948You're missing the point. The problem is that everyone has it in their heads that "boo tem bad" and avoids it like the plague. The only people who don't are experienced players who actively enjoy a challenge or pre-level-50-somethings who genuinely don't know any better and just join whatever team is available.The problems you state are:>Blue team doesn't play objective.Solution? Do you play objectives? Go blue team and inspire people to play the objective.>Infantry sucks soloGet you friends to squad up on Blue team or just rally the Blueberries in spawn to join a particular hotzone squad.There's nothing about 33 individual, high level players CHOOSING to stack a single team that's a "dice roll." This is purely on us, the individual players, to address. If we don't, it's going to just get worse and worse until people start quitting the game in droves.
>>582300014>If something is free, you're not the customer, you're the producti think this quote over-simplifies the relation between producers and consumers but it's undoubtedly true here so that's just nitpickinganyways, let me fuckin' pay then damn. give me the Premium package with Advanced Actually-Functional Search. god damn the degradation of the internet has been mortifying. about to have to buy Kagi just to stop popping a vein trying to look up anything in this slopful era>>582300458no man i just want some basic fuckin' functionality in the service which now dominates the exchange of information for games, i'm not a paranoid schizophrenicshit even if i was, i'd probably vaguely gesture to the idea that it's probably just Us that can't search it, something something They can probably already search it, something something remember the kirk shooter and how quick they were to scrape his discord as my harebrained "isn't it weird that..." claim
>>5823012791 trip of 2 pallets is 1500xp1 trip of 4 large crates is 2000xpYou lose out on money anyway by doing the optimal method of killing yourself each run instead of driving back
>>582301562or i can just go green team and mortar the blue fob as they run around like ants for massive xp.and when im bored i joined a squad raiding a blue fob for massive xp.moer xp = more toys = more fun for me.i play games in ways to maximise fun
>>582300334>>582300589>>582300770>>582300948>>582301106Blue has a shit reputation and a shit starting pos on all maps. It's gonna encounter one other faction earlier on, and usually fight it until the end while the third team gets away with a longer prep time and better, more secured locations for fobs, drills and hz rush. It's also too easy to rush the blue side to kill fobbits before bases are built, and if blue extands a bit they always get a fob close to red/green. >>582301562>This is purely on us, the individual players, to addressThis is on the devs. Make better maps, force people into factions, move the hq around...you got a bunch of solutions, because players have already decided blue is for noobs and retards. You get the same pay when you kill them, why would you go against the assault death squad roaming the hz instead of the fob drones ? Why would you join the blues when they get fucked over every match ?
>>582301562Or you could just unlock team joining and the teams will fill up as the server fills up.
>>582301812If your idea of fun in multiplayer games is finding the newest, most inexperienced players and repeatedly shitting down their necks to make number go up with as little effort as possible, I genuinely hope you take a second to reflect on what that says about you and your playstyle.Until then, enjoy shitting in your adult diaper while you intentionally play with the strongest possible handicap. I look forward to shooting you and others like you in the virtual world of Wherdaags.
>>582302404But that's literally what everybody wants to do. That's why people complain about SBMM in CoD
>>582302468You're actively engaging with someone who doesn't and still clinging to the delusion that "buT eVrybOdy Duz it." You have groupthink akin to a redditor going "THIS!! SO MUCH THIS!!"Servers should be up soon. I'm gonna make some coffee and get ready to dunk on more "I just want to enjoy the story" difficulty selectors. Good luck!
>>582300334yeah i tried to start playing blue team and uhwell i like infantry and hotzone chasing. and that's not something you can just do alone if you don't want to lose infinite money. because even if you pull up and start dropping dudes, you will almost certainly die while still in the black, and you will almost certainly die alone and not get rez'di gave up on trying to blue when we got spawn camped by a green m249 humvee on zestafona and then, being one of the last few survivors, i got shot by some red faggot with an m2 mounted on "our" tower window while taking cover from the humveeat this point i'm spamming green just so i don't want to fucking kill myself. i'll blue with the boys, that's easy as fuck. blue solo? hell-fucking-nah, not unless i want to do some side-questing shit where being on the retard team actually works in my favor
Just rotate team HQ spawns and disable team switching after 10 points. After a few weeks the teams will normalize and blue will be fine and green won't win every game.
>>582302817nta but "everybody does it" does not mean literally everybody in general language and getting hung up on a literal interpretation is highly autistic, no offenseanyways yeah i think it's completely fair to say that most players want to win or experience success and most players do not want to be the recipient of some helplessly thorough assfucking
>>582303610Every encounter is an IQ check. If you don't come out alive maybe you're not as smart as you thunk you is.
>>582303808Selecting a team is an IQ check as well
>>582303610None taken. I was being pedantic to antagonize the greenie weenies.To address your point though, you're leaving out the direct agency a player has to affect the outcome of a game.If you want to blast music in your headphones and click heads without ever using VOIP and expect a smooth, low effort victory with dozens of easy kills, you should at least understand that there are people on your team doing the exact opposite in order to afford you that luxury.I don't mean you specifically, and I completely understand the avoidant response of "damn, I had a bad experience with X, I'm going to do Y," but it just seems a little spineless and extremely easy to poke fun at the guys who shamelessly lock Green team every single game for some Pavlovian dopamine hit and 30% bonus cash.
this game somehow manages to make every playstyle unsatisfying>vehicles are either unstoppable killing machines if nobody has or uses counters, seal clubbing everyone on the ground with 0 resistance and infantryfags have 0 fun>or they're completely worthless unusable garbage because the lobby knows the counters and your shit gets exploded .5 seconds after leaving SZ and vehiclefags have no fun>FOB the builder is either pulling the HZ back to back to back with a fob full of drlls, 20 dumb niglets raining mortar hell and 10 logifags, 90-0-0 nobody else gets to play>or FOB the builder gets rained on by mortars and raided constantly by humveenigs and your team is the 0 point retards spread all over the map doing nothingevery match is so dependent on whether the people in the lobby know how to play or not it's impossible to pick something to do. by the time i get a loadout and start playing you realize your team is the fucktarded one and you're not going to get to do whatever you picked a loadout to do. it really feels like every match is a crapshoot and 1 sided steamroll and if you don't get the steamroll team you're basically just going to fuck around the whole match
Just got farmed with the cheat that instantly kill the whole map then get auto ressed then killed again for a whole 10 minutes because the anticheat doesn't work and it took 10 MINUTES for the glue sniffing retards to finally mass report the guyDoes the AC even work? Holy fuck the cheating situation would make tarkov and current MW2 multiplayer blush. I think I'm done with this game. I'll wait for the wipe.
>try to play infantry>everyone on the map has live updates of your exact location at all times because reconiggers with thermals that literally don't even shoot at people are camped in every bush of the mapand it's just getting started kek
>>582305146the amount of rage hacking is concerning, it makes me wonder how many people are just using esp or a radar. the client has so much authority in this game, glad they switched anticheat at the last second and fucked over linuxfags for this!
>>582305584And people have been ragehacking over the course of multiple betas. How much "data gathering" do they have to do before they stop cunts from literally 1 shotting and instarezzing the entire server over and over? Why does the client even have that much authority? It takes 0 (zero) amount of "data gathering" to prevent the client from instakilling everyone on the server. That's just day 0 development shit. Bulkhead are a joke
>>582305584Hacking is far more appealing in games where you know people lose shit when you kill them. Thats why faggots do it so openly in this.They new they're zeroing out your bank account when they kill you
>>582303808uhhh okay lol>check score>4 blues in the zone and i'm one of them>5 minutes later, look again>3oh, let me brain blast real quick rrrrrrrrghhhh eureka, i should afk in the zone until i break even and then leave the game>>582304267there's only so much you can do as literally 1% of the server's populationit's trivial to carry a 5v5 match. you can have an outsized impact on 12v12. you can even make a standout contribution in 24v24but 33v33v33? like i get what you're saying right, i would le humbly say i am a good player who generates greater-than-average value to the teams i'm on in most pub games, i intuitively understand what you meanbut this is a lot of fuckin' players and the fundamental mechanic is "have more guys in the zone than the enemy"when you throw infantry economy into the mix, it starts to get real fuckin' hard to justify joining the get-ass-raped team, even if you're okay with some amount of struggle and failurealso to be fair my >>582302852 heuristic of never joining blue isn't a one-and-done, i did really try to give blue a fair shake, and it BROKE me
>>582305584From lelddit, apparently I'm not the only one who suffered similar cheats. Basically the whole map gets killed and instantly ressed and theres NOTHING you can do but pray retards would quickly mass report the guy.Apparently there's also magic bullet where you can kill people in your direction as well? holy shit their anticheat doesn't fucking work at all>>582305970There's reports of cheats that allows you to use other people's cash. We're fucked lol
>>582306101mad cuz dum
>>582306174bars king, go off
>>582305584>>582305878>>582306113yeah, i'm starting to think the game is permanently fucked. if cheaters have this much authority it's because of the way they've handled the netcode.they probably niggerrigged this game so it'd handle 100 players smoothly, but to get the servers to handle that I bet they made a bunch of shit client-sided so cheaters have way too much power and there's not going to be a way to fix that without rewriting the entire game's backend. game is fucked
>>582305146>>582305584vibe coded game
>>582306346Right, if a cheat like global multi-killing and instant reviving exists, it means client authority is baked into the engine structure. Cleaning that up requires extensive re-architecting of the game's network layer. Didn't they supposedly just redo the anticheat right before early access?? Lmao I think Wardogs is actually unironically cooked
>>582305146>>582306113there's a cheat that allows you to use items at infinite range and it affects defibs so thats what happened to you and other peoplebasically map wide defib spam.
>>582301279>>582301732Both wrong. 2 pallets will be a small loss with suicide if they are not deposited, but if deposited you get a few thousand profit, even more with ammo supply assists.4 large crates should have 1 FOB supply each because thats the cheapest item you can buy, but you will lose like $2k per trip for 500 extra xp (33% more xp per trip). Support has a lot of good stuff in the unlocks like the m249, PKM and the godly grenade launcher. Just do pallets and lvl both driver and support at the same time.T. Lvl 36 driver, lvl 37 support
>>582306542"redo the anticheat"they paid for 4 new anticheat licenses their LLM of choice shilled to them as a solution to their problems.
>>582302404>finding the newest, most inexperienced players and repeatedly shitting down their necks to make number go up with as little effort as possibleThis is literally the premier way to have fun in wardogs, the game is literally designed for this, what are you talking about?
>>582305123I mean uhh, yeah, thats how team based video games work anon, congratulations on waking up from a 20 year coma btw.If your teammates are good, a CS match will be easy and comfortable. If theyre shit, you will be tard wrangling a squad of impatient and smoothbrained morons.If your TF2 team is good, your medics will keep you alive and pop uber perfectly, engineers have bases with TP and pyros defend them and you steamroll the match. If your team sucks, you will be getting spawncamped until the timer expires.And those games have much smaller team sizes so one person can make a big difference. But when you have 33 people on a team, if the team is doomed then there isn't much you can do. Either find your own entertainment with recon or logistics, or just join another server.
>>582306346>of the way they've handled the netcode.i know youre a tech-illiterate. but netcode deals with network aka sending data. this problem is because the server does not authenticate actions, not because of muh 'netcode'.
582307187tldr
>>582305584Ive clocked a lot of hours and ive had 2 obvious rage hackers. One guy headshot our entire team as soon as they entered the CZ and then left.The other time it was a little bird hovering perfectly still at the top of the map, with the two shooters on the sides instakilling everyone on the ground.
>>582307289>the server does not authenticate actionshmmm i wonder what part of the software infrastructure handles server-client interactions.... definitely not the network code.....are you special ed?
>>582219414He landed like 2 bullets, calm down.
>>582307289Making things client-authoritative is a decision made to simplify networking on 100 player servers, nothing more. It's entirely related to netcode unless you're literally learning disabled
>>582306542well, it took cheat developers 2+(?) weeks to figure this one out, i'd cut at least some slack and suggest that it's not something super obvious like full client authoritythat being said this shit should not be possible and i assume it's some crunch-time hasty implementation of a fix for the defib which is now being exploited to globally zap players
>>582306624>you want driver xp? then do a less efficient thing for driver xp so you also get support xp that you didn't ask for
It’s arc raiders tier hacks that go beyond simple ESPs or no recoil it’s like shit that shouldn’t be possible
>>582307474nta and i agree, it's a bit pedanticbut i think the thing he was trying to articulate is that netcode, essentially a Gamer buzzword, is generally used to refer to a vague cloud of ideas that relate to latency and (de)synchronization and all the wonderful compromises you have to make to create the illusion of smooth simultaneous gameplayand that this would fall under... i don't know, design? architecture? security? all of the above? something that the umbrella netcode isn't usually used to refer to colloquially speaking
>>582308197Do you want to max out 2 skill trees at once while making money, or do you want to max out one skill tree 33% faster while losing hundreds of thousands.Gee anon when you put it like that, its such a difficult decision, however will I choose?
blue team had some great posts todayhttps://old.reddit.com/r/WarDogs/comments/1wppsfj/typical_blue_team_activities/
>>582309965Bro I'm not sacrificing 500xp in the tree I'm grinding at this moment for 360xp in a tree I can grind much faster with a hammer and a mortar.
This is the worst I've ever seen the hacking boogyman be in years. I'm not saying there aren't hackers, but people forgot what's like to play against people 10x better than them because of match making
>finally I manage to join red>green steamrolls us with a heavy assault squad>blue begins making pointsIt's all so tiresome. I'm gonna stick to lone wolf recon/sniping and never come near a fob again. At least that pays no matter the team.
>>582310261Modern fps gamers are all tryhards with or without sbmm
>>582306385I think it was. Internally their game is so fucking sloppy.>>582305584>glad they switched anticheat at the last second and fucked over linuxfags for this!This was a real contributor to how many cheats there are so early in the life cycle of the game. The new AC barely even put up a fight if you dumped the game, dumped it, did whatever you wanted with it in memory. It just didn't make the legwork to develop cheats hard at all. People had dumps, keys, offsets within hours of every patch and barely anyone was even burning accounts to do it.
>>582310096That had better be a boy.
>>582310261Truth.Also, I don't think people realize how many giga casual ultra normies are playing this game.
>>582309965>>582306624im sorry my man, but anyone retarded enough to actually grind in this game is not someone whose opinion matters
>>582310692I realize it because bulkhead went super hard on marketing to casual nostalgia fags who whine that bf or cod are too sweaty now only to are now getting farmed even harder
So what is the actual difference between 5.56 ARs? Accuracy, recoil, stability improves up the tree? Because as far as I can tell damage is the same.
>>582310945yes
>>582311901I see.
Assuming you get hit in the armored parts, tier 4 armor basically means you have 264 effective HP. That's a power creep of 2.6. It's staggering they think this gap was okay. This is almost MMO Tier balancing.
>>582310945bro educate urselfhttps://wardogs.zone/calculators/ttk
>>582288692>Me countering the enemy>Haha fuck yeah!!! Yes!! >Me getting countered by the enemy>Well this fucking sucks. What the fuck.
>>582310945damage is by-class-by-caliber. as in, if it's under the same category, and has the same caliber, then it does the same damage. all the 5.56 ARs have identical STKs but the m249 for example has a lower STKanyways, yeah; recoil, spread, weight, assorted 'hidden' stats like view kick, etc.the T-21 is pretty unruly, then you get the AK which is a lot more friendly but lower firerate, and then the galil which is essentially the AK but in 5.56 (extremely minute difference in terms of TTK between 5.45 and 5.56, but does occasionally make the difference) and even more stablethen you get to the M4, which is the best of all worlds. the firerate of the T-21, the recoil of the AK/galil, and is 5.56the FAL is the exception in terms of improving handling. i haven't used it much but my perception is that its recoil is kinda angry, but it shoots .308 in full auto (which positively deletes people) and that's the big selling point
>>582312715what is this dogshit vibe coded website and why should I believe that any of the info on it is true?
>>582312715the TTK on it is retarded because it factors in travel time
>>582313360why would you believe that any of the info here is true?
>>582292576Spoken like someone who's never tried to combat pilot in a game like this before.If you're someone who's worried about "getting your ego bruised," you are not going through the everlasting humiliation ritual that is learning how to be an effective pilot.
>>582313593Yes, that's what I'm asking you.
>>582313360because its accuratevibecoders were datamining the entire game and had half that info out before it was even out of beta
>>582292576Literally got banned for shooting down enemy helicopters on a server which they called "griefing". Heliniggers genuinely are subhuman scum.
>>582313708eat my ass retard
>>582312680T4 armor is 65% DR, that's itthat's 1/(1-0.65) = 2.87 times more health on whatever gun shooting whichever body part at whichever range
>>582313126Is that why the Mosin hits harder than the SVD?
>>582313936yes one is a sniper, one is a DMR, snipers have higher multis than DMRs
>>582313360anytime i'm looking for info i trust in the hyperautists who compile data into google sheets, and thus it's the first thing i search for in a game discord when looking for said infoanyways, here's this game's one:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bY94iEQGW0fGf9VBAxG1FEGusrF27SmJIarvXEcBMQw/edit?gid=660589574#gid=660589574note: the color/presentation choices are a little retarded. just ignore the color, it's meaningless other than "worse than something with fewer shots/lesser time to kill" which is... not something that needs to be indicated. allegedly red used to be the "best" color too (lmfao)
Is there any gun in the game you dont just slap max vertical recoil attachments on(that isnt a sniper rifle) beend using a m249 with TDG vert, 1.5x optic and whatever barrel i unlock with vertical recoil currently
>>582313936yep. ammo has a fixed damage value but weapons have different on-hit multipliers, so different effective bullet damages. presumably some under-the-hood implementation bullshit for ammo as to why that's the casei ran into this headfirst like a week or so ago, ignorantly claiming that damage is based only on caliber. but an SVD can't* one-tap while the mosin can
>>582314318Full choke with a red dot on the M500 is my go to medic gun.
>random client side only a-10 gun runs at nothingwhy did they put this in?
Not once have I seen one of these proverbial "they just built drills in their fob to win" games. No team has the logistics, builders, and shooters to pull that off under constant mortar fire. Not to mention most FOBs have a spot in their wall enemies can just jump over for free.
>>582315357ambience
>>582315357Oh those are client side cosmetics?, I thought it was odd I never seemed to get hit by themMaybe they just didn't get as far as actually programing them before launch so they threw in that to make use of the assets early
>>582314318...all of them? horizontal recoil is the one that you should focus on imoeven factoring in the existence of recoil patterns(ish), it's just always easier to compensate for vertical recoil than horizontallet alone that reducing horizontal recoil also seemingly reduces the vertical component as well, and that the best grips for it also speed up your ADS instead of penalizing it. not really relevant to the m249, but crucial for ARs and the likealso hey mostly unrelated check this shit out, shout-out to the japs for compiling this into a list. mags affect your stats. accuracy here refers to the weapon's cone, so less is better and more is worse
>>582315481Ive seen it happen but only when they either mortared all other FOBS in reach and had mortar superiority and AA SAM's and CIWS, or the other two team are retarded/low level and cant use a rocket heli to take it out
>>582315717mp5 should come standard with 30rd mags....fucking niggers
>>582316107but then how would they lull you into a false sense of woah! this gun beams! i love the mp5! it's so much nicer than the mp9! (look where the mp9's 30 rounders are in that list btw)
>>582289192>I can't build a FOB and carry MAAWS at the same timewhy not?
>>582315357its fucking cool to have extra unnecessary voice to distract you thats why goober!
>>582316507because one involves sitting in one spot swinging a hammer and the other involves moving to where the targets are goofball
>>582316273i guess, but then i use mp9 with 30rd mags, so mp5 comes on top regardless
If S2 doesn't come with rotating hq's or something to address team imbalance I think I'm leaving and not coming back. Absolutely fucking atrocious balancing that one team is sandwiched between the other two on all three maps and has horrible build locations on two of them. As a result on top of other shit that team is memed into fuck as being the bad team with big streamers and even the faggot nigger bong devs joining in on it and effectively making this a two faction game because its only known as the retard team even to people who don't play the game.I genuinely don't think across all games even Dice has done something that was such a terrible design decision.Like if something is not done very fucking soon this game absolutely deserves to die and none of Brammer's cope about "We'd be happy with 5k!" will suffice cause at the end of the day nobody wants to fucking see their game go from 430k players to 5k. That's massive depression and suicidal thoughts inducing to just about anyone.
>>582317413Breathe, man
>>582317626No fuck this shit I came into this cause I love three faction pvp but retarded nigger devs and retarded nigger streamers and retarded niggers in general have turned it into essentially a two faction game.I'm not sticking around in a two faction game. There are quite frankly much better two faction games out there I could be spending my time on if that's going to be the case.
>>582318120I'll keep playing blueI'll keep having funYou can't stop meBut a heart attack from high blood pressureWill stop you
>>582317413I'd be interested in seeing how much the locations are to blame for Blue's winrate, vs the psychology of tryhards always spam clicking red or green while casuals who are looking to just have fun don't mind clicking Blue. Or Blue clickers who simply assume they're going to lose anyway so they don't even try to play to win. In general I think people jump to conclusions too quickly. There might be some tricks or spots to figure out on specific maps that haven't been popularized yet.
>>582319427The pyschology came because of the map imbalance. Once the maps change the psychology will follow, though not immediately and the blue losers memes will endure for eternity.
>>582319427>Blue clickers who simply assume they're going to lose anyway so they don't even try to play to win.This is the logic behind me bringing backpacks filled with nothing but grenades as blue
>>582316579check this out: when you're at the main fob location for your team, a lot of times, the targets will come to you!
>Chink clans are intentionally hunting non chinese players and english speakers in asian region>Purposely teamkilling or even used cheats to kill>make even more asian players flee to NA, EU and OCX Fucking changs man lmfao
>>582319679You're way too confident in your theory, but we'll see.
>>582319679>pyschology came because of the map imbalanceblue was unpopular on day 1... before people had any time to try the different map positions btw
>>582313621>stall in the air over infantry>blow them the fuck out and watch as they can't shoot you back because cockpit window hitboxes are a fucking joke and just EAT headshots with AP rounds
>>582319963This literally every game that comes out.>the 5% of chinks that aren't completely subhuman play like normal>other 95% that cheat chase the 5% away to OCE/west coast NA>95% eventually gets bored of constantly cheating against each other>follow the 5% over to oce/NA and do it there>devs don't region ban chink land>cheating chinks chase normal oce/na people off the game>game diesThis cycle has repeatedly itself multiple times now and will probably be the case with Wardogs unless the bongs are smart enough to do the one effective stopgap that exists which is region banning China.They aren't.
>>582319963based as fuck tbqhthey band together like a swarm of autonomous drones and force the environment to assimilate or flee. broken and divided western cuckoids tremble under the might of the glorious infinite bugman
>>582313126Thanks for the explanation, this is exactly what I wanted to know.
It kinda sucks green or red isn't Chinese coded. It's always fun in these games when everyone larps with a chink voice
>>582321746i made it all up btw :)
They should add yellow, make them hard or extreme difficulty bots. Make it their sole duty to mess up the battlefield as much as possible between deciding to raid fobs every 10 minutes, pushing the zone.
>>582322650I think they should just rebrand blue to yellow
>great game>get half of assault 15>get 90% of medic 21
>>582320571People have been pointing out the map imbalance since the closed playtests. The people playing the game now are inheriting memes from their forerunners.
>>582320571leftover from arma koth where blue is always the losing team there too
>>582320768Just getting to the point of being able to hover over infantry, aim at them, and then actually hit them, and doing that without then immediately crashing, that's a whole sequence of mini humiliation rituals on its own. Add in the infantry shooting back and the pressure from AA and other helis and the very-likely monetary loss, and it feels pretty brutal if you don't have the fortitude to withstand it.Not saying I've never been terrorized by a heli or frustrated by a strong pilot, I'm just saying, getting to the point where you can actually terrorize people takes a lot, a lot of embarrassing failures. Such that the insinuation that you fly to avoid having your "ego bruised" is simply comical.
>>582321746i truthed it all up btw (no problem)
why the fuck are people using vertical on galil? is this some retarded tiktok meme?
>>582320768funny, people shoot me out of the cockpit constantly. other guy is right, if you're getting owned by a bird pilot it's because he's a fuckin nerd and he's on a lucky streak.
>JP wardogs twitter says they're joining NA west servers because Chinese players keep cheating and teamkilling people with Japanese names
Crying for no wipes in early access is crazy. Fuckers want the season 2 wipe canceled. You really want the rest of the game's life to be as shitty as it's been the past week or so? Wipes need to happen periodically until progression is fixed and feels right. Then they can stop. And if season 2 comes and they don't make any changes to progression then just drop the game.
>>582325276eu players go to na east because russians finnish and french are all niggers and just can't help but cheat
>>582325276good, eat shit nips. yellow is the same color everywhere
*ahem*as a US EAST player I want all foreigner NIGGERS removed from my servers. europoors, slant-eyed chinks of ever flavor, inbred slavshits, ALL OF THEM MUST BE REMOVED. enact ping limits, effectively IMMEDIATELY. get on it Brammer boy, chop chop.>b-but n-n-nig-niggers can just use a v-v-pnfuck you, you're gay, don't care, and kill yourself. ban every VPN DNS and IP range. simple. MAWA
>>582325695the ip range you should really be worried about queueing with is north and west (french canadians and californians)
>>582325429>yellow is the same color everywhereAs someone who's been to both countries several times, I can assure you it's not.
>>582305123This is what happens when the core game mode is abysmal garbage. When the only goal of the game is go in the circle and hang out, the game becomes overly chaotic and there's no common denominator to anything so nothing means anything.There's no real reward or reason to even win the game, which makes everything even more pointless.Last night I did an experiment where I pretty much AFK'd in a bush on the outskirts of the CZ while I watched a movie. Not only did I make a ton of cash for nothing, but I got a pretty decent sized participation bonus when the game ended because I had spent so many ticks in the CZ that the game thought I was actually useful. There is not even a game here at this point, it's just 'go in the circle and hangout' simulator
Wardogs needs BF6's escalation
>>582325276lollmao
>>582326060you're right, nips are somehow more primitive and depraved than most of the chinese. beyond the propagandized western nonsense they're the same shit, vapid consumer cultures not too different from america's. throw korea in there too. they're all different flavors of chinese
>>582325695There was a statistic that keeps getting pushed to devs as a reason to not have ping limits since the PUBG era, something like 20-30% of chinese players simply will not buy your game if it has ping limitations.It's because chink servers get crazy overloaded. This causes publishers to globally enforce a "no ping limit" rule.Its fucking awful for players on the receiving end to deal with, even in the case of no cheaters, desync often completely ruins CQB and turns it into a matter of who swings first.No publisher or dev takes into account the longterm loss of sales because of ping related gameplay friction or the players themselves cheating, they're entirely gearing towards cashing in on early sales. You can thank activision and EA for normalizing this.They are absolutely making a decision that favours china over everyone else.
>>582325695I'll miss the British and Scottish players I occasionally meet though. They're always lads
>Join blue because I feel bad>0 points, one hour in, no fobs.
>>582324519think it's just bog-standard gamer retardation
>>582327141Bluegods don't need your pity joining
i do like that this game lets me be racist with impunity
>>582327904This. Vertical grip looks cooler
>>582327141Lonestar's goals are beyond your understanding.
I have literally never bought anything. I have been stealing stuff off teammates the entire time I've played. I have 17 million dollars.
>>582324873My original ramble went harder on that point as well. When you hover in front of infantry they tend to shoot back. Even if they don't beam you out of the cockpit, if they concentrate fire on you, it doesn't matter. You have to bail. They'll put enough damage on you and on your bird that sticking to the fight is simply too dangerous. From the infantry perspective, whenever I'm rocking it, unloading 100 rounds of 5.56 FMJ from m249 at a bird is usually enough to get them to fuck off, even when shooting alone. Testing in the practice range, 80 hits (roughly in the same spot however) is enough to blow one up. Anyways, only scaring them off is not really a great use of 100 rounds of 5.56, but still. The point is that birds can go down quick to small arms if the infantry have a clue.
They're just colors.
>>582329447Okay racist
>>582324519I use vertical + top comp on my m4 is there something wrong with it in general or something
>>582329447...and uniforms, and spawn locations, and maps with an uneven distribution of terrain....try blue on ozeti and see how "just" a color they REALLY are..........seriously this map might have the lowest blue win rate what the fuck were they thinking. yeah let's give one team great access to the highground that dominates the map, another team great access to another great defensible location (stadium) and most of the map in general. and then the blue team can have whatever's in-circle south of the river lol
>>582313738It has the wrong stats for most guns. It hallucinated them lol. AI is going to be the doom of the hunan race at this rate.
>>582332463i didn't check many numbers but the ones i did lined up with the provably legitimate data sources i have, sowhat's something that's off?
>>582332039While it sucks normally, Ozeti is great for helifagging as blue. Green almost always puts the cwis in the same two spots at stadium and if red doesn't build aa at the church they usually do it behind it. Make sure those spots are clear regularly and you have near free reign of the map. And because there are so many trees+the river on blues side you have near perfect room to retreat and hide from verbas.I have circle strafing/attacking the stadium almost down to a science at this point that I try not to go green on Ozeti anymore.
>>582331728ADS? that shit takes ages to aim
>>582332884Rate of fire for Bushmaster.
>>582333848it's mostly correct though, no? that's its burst-fire RPM rounded down to the nearest "nice" number
>>582333848Rate of fire for almost every gun is wrong on that website.
>>582327141You wont get hit by artillery and mortars if your team doesn't stop moving.
>>582334191>mostly correctNo, it's just fucking wrong. It can't even round correctly, for eg M4 should round to 850 not 800 if your dogshit theory were right.It's just a slopcoded website.
>>582329447The colors have predetermined map layouts instead of rotating the colors and drill tower locations. If maps had different layouts instead of always being consistent. Win rates would be tied to luck & skill rather than color.
Now that I think about it, I don't think I have seen the drill towers get used correctly in all but one game. Usually its the FOB drills that pull.
>>582334960100 hours here, 40 in betas and i've not seen it a single time
>>582333791you should not be playing assault rifles in a way that you're running and gunning all the time anyways. just use an SMG you care about that.
>>582334726greens gets train station or a tower with a nice defendable riverred gets castle or apartmentsblue gets raped by sniper fire in the forest
>>582334960>>582335097Takes way too much effort and coordination compared to simply building a FOB drill and delivering some fuel, successfully infiltrating every tower on the map and then relaying that information correctly is simply too much to ask of a random team.
Definitive map rankings:ZestyBakuOz
>>582335449On that map in particular. There is a factory on the edge that is completely empty. And its like perfect for building. Because the roof doesnt take damage. But it is the furthest from the center of the map. So everyone chasing hotzone has to run through the woods and exposed cover. But if the blue team turtles correctly. It's a perfect location for the drill strat. We got 70 points that match with Red stealing the win.
>>582335961>t. bluetard
>Playing Wardogs while my gf plays dressmaker>dies and looks over>"wow babe i love that shade of brown ">"i know right it goes so well with the cuffs and stuff"Its that easy anons she told me she loves me for getting it her
>>582336636She told me the game pisses her off constantly and keeps getting frustrated and I look over and its her just trying to angle the fabric and going through the pages to match the rating themes.Also the quests keep bugging out for her for some reason so she has to restart the game for the quests to fix themselves.
>>582334578lmao no need to get so defensive dog. it is clearly a slop site made obvious by its dogshit UX, i'm not defending it by any means. this shit sucksi'm just saying, the claim that all the stats are made up doesn't seem to track. only rounding down wouldn't be that weird either, no?also i gotta ask, what's our reference for the "real" RoF of guns? all of these info sites have basically the same numbers (from a cursory glance), even the ones that i do actually trust. i gotta know if i have to break it off with these hoes dude who's your plug
>>582335961Ozempic might be one of the worst maps I've played in a MP FPS ever
>>582335961bakurani is my favorite, feels like they nailed itzestafonia is alright, bit hit-or-miss1/3rd of ozeti is fun. the rest can be deleted and we can start again
>>582336060i think you mixed up maps this is stalingrad/azow map.my head canon is all maps are set in ukraine and im hoping Pripyat is next map.also i hope "jets" are super Tucano coin aircraft and handling wont be completely aids
>>582336542Correct>>582337679I have a love-hate relationship with the flower fields on Baku. So many bush wookies, but I've also had kino cat and mouse chases in there
>>582337865I want a world war 2 conversion mod for wardogs now. There was this shitty game on steam that was set in Africa I think where communications and supplies went down so allied and axis forces were forced to scavenge equipment and build these dog shit wood bases. And make ammo. It was like if rust tried to be a competitive shooter on a smaller map. I cannot remember the name of it.
>>582338094i hope jets are cancerously fast and only crack addicts can fly them
>>582338094one of my first matches ever during the server slam or whatever they called it my buddy died near the sunflowersso i tried to use them to sneak up and take out some dudes, looking for the res, but holy fuck there's infinite reds oh fuck i gotta hidewent prone in one of the rows and had a little all ghillied up moment, reds running by inches from my face calling out "they're in the sunflowers! they're in the sunflowers!"good shit. love them sunflowers (hate them sunflowers)
>>582338687all ghillied up is my favorite larp these daysbefore i got my ghillie i wouldn’t actually engage people 99% of the time because the killcam ruins itnow if i’m feeling confident that i know all their locations i’ll open up on a squad after as they roll pasteven better if it’s in the middle of an active gunfight or fob siege
>>582339326fuck yeah dude, makes me want to grind for the ghillie i love shit like that
>>582326679>nips are somehow more primitive and depraved than most of the chineseWhere'd you get that idea?
>>582339853by using my eyes. the average japanese is a company-worshipping wageslave with a living space as big as my closet, or a literal farmer. their comedy shows have little faces in the corners to signal to them when to laugh, not to speak on their simplistic sense of humor to begin with. in terms of work culture they're the closest nation to a modern cyberpunk we have, except they're so spiritually devastated that they don't even have the junkie rebels fighting the corpos, just a bunch of sexually repressed rapists. they still live in a feudal society, except instead of warlords it's executives. economically they're impressive for a small island nation, culturally they're depressing.china on the other hand is just asian America. not much better but they're a staple empire of the world for a reason. indomitable bugmen > westernized capitulative corporate slave people
How much do you guys want to bet that they require secure boot going forward into Season 2 because they genuinely don't know what they're doing?
The "psychology" and it's just casual blue team players vs reddit try hard dork green team players . Not much "psychology" here is there lol
>>582340995I think they know what they are doing but refusing to elaborate or do anything in particular to gather as much data as possible. Then Brimmer is gonna make a youtube video about it and you play on an official server and accidently get banned because the detection system though you were cheating when your model got stuck in the crack of a building.
>>582340995I won't be playing if they do.I'm not jumping through hoops for these mental rejects
>>582341554if blue are noobs and green are tryhards, what is the psychology of a red?
>>582337865>my head canon is all maps are set in ukraineit's georgiathe script on the stores and shipping containers is georgian
>>582341586Why would a woman be allowed to enroll in Arabic Manticore?
>>582342395https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WkLoOvm2Yo
>>582342395Reds are centrists . They're undecided. Also they couldn't get in green.
>>582342495Because the artist only draws one woman over and over.
>>582342463I wonder how many maps will just end up being a different layout of the same factories, crate yards, apartments, and tree lines
>>582343094all of them
i can't wait for everyone who hasn't played enough on blue team to get their clan tags forced to [KEK] when s2 drops (it's going to be so freaking epic....)
woahforgot about that one, been too long
Remove the artillery shell camera, Brammer.
remove t4 armorremove t4 armor
>>582344556Keep it but slow down the movement speed to walking only. Guys wearing a bomb suit cannot run in one.
>>582344863Obscure vison based on the tier of helmet.
>>582344952Only tier 4 has a face plate though, which is fine if it obscures vision. But for tier 1 and sometimes tier 2 you're better off going in without and saving the money and weight.
>>582344952Is that not how it is now? In the beta I think t4 helmet obscured your vision.>>582343094All of them. Asset recycling.
>>582345173No tier 4 helmet doesn't have any draw backs besides cost and weight.
>>582345170It works in tarkov with the Killa mask so why not.It would also get rid of sniper campers who wear it just to prevent counter snipes
>>582344556nah its balanced
>>582345871They just need to go full retard at this point and add tier 5 nanotech armor which absorbs 100% damage, and then it becomes leg meta for a season and then season 3 they add bionic legs which lets you jump over walls and absorbs all damage and then it turns into shoulder/neck meta until season 4 when they add Gundams and you drop into the fucking hot zone and there's a bunch of Armuro Rays flying around in the sky shooting zelensky particles at the ground obliterating everything
>>582346346You joke but there is a Gundam game that has a 50 vs 50 battlefield thing going on and it has abysmal netcode and nobody plays it.
whats the solution to t4 armor?>t4 less protection, but also cheaper>all armor values scaled down, no price changes>t4 extreme weight increase, no sprinting, not even with stims>remove t4 armor entirely or make it the same as t3 but with leg protectionpersonally I dont think price changes are a valid balance mechanic. Anyone who plays the game a lot knows how free money is, high prices are just a tax on the noobs.
>>582345871>fmj
>>582347940The solution to T4 armor is having more people put T4 armor in crates so everyone can have T4 armor
>>582347983>just use the ammo you dont have unlocked
>>582347940the solution is to equip ap bullets in your gun sis
>>582345871hahahahaha all that sperging from the devs about "playing like you used to" and they put out some of the most f2p mobile gaming slop on the marketthe progression in this game is deeply chinese
>>582348128>it's an sks, the first gun you get ap ammo forso you don't have wardog level 63 two weeks into the season...?
>>582274654Promod/killrun and Buttalion.Promod and buttalion were basically the same thing buttalion is just WW2 themed.Killrun that came out of the promod abandonment is somehow a shitty BRINK.
>>582348587We can't all be semenslurpers
>>582349025the question remains:why post in a thread for a game you don't play?
>>582349761Cause I played it and want to give feedback about the abysmal state of it so they can fix it? Holy smokes some of you aint the educated type, huh??
>>582350118>Holy smokesthis ai bot was trained on reddit
>>582350451lol u mad haha
>>582347940>whats the solution to t4 armor?Make it $40k per pop
You make more money and xp spotting than sniping and thats hilariously stupid.
>>582351325>you make more recon xp doing recon than shooting thingsyeah... stupid...
The solution to t4 armor is simply realizing HP superiority and shooting legs
>>582353872>oh no that sniper on the roof is only peeking his head out! My idiot proof plan has a gap in it!>oh no that faggot in the building is only peeking his head out! My idiot proof plan has a gap in it!>oh no that retard's legs in the humvee are blocked by steeldoor and bulletproof glass! My idiot proof plan has a gap in it!>etc etc
>>582350947this. all end game gear and vehicles need to cost 10x as much as they do now
so cheap im just going in with just a rangefinder
>>582350947>t4 metal gear soldier finally goes down>swarm of glockroaches swarms the bodyI can already see it
Is Infantry actually dogshit or am I just dogshit? I normally use T2 helm and body armor. An AK and some ammo. One stack of bandages etc. Kit comes out to like 6-7k.
The Chad frontline APC vs the virgin hide in a FOB "spawn truck"
>>582347940The real life reason for not wearing the heaviest armor you can imagine is because it is disproportionately exhausting and awkward to wear for the luckluster increase in protection it actually provides.
>>582355927Frontline APC is chadded. But dumb as hell unfortunately. It is easily overrun and camped. Then the apes on your team won't even say that they are being camped by enemies camping the APC for easy kills.
>>582356252Just had an absolute gigachad who managed to keep the APC up and following the hotzone for almost the entire game.
Why do people always bring up "sweats" and "no lifes" in games like this? I'd argue that if someone is playing this game 16+ hours a day, they should relentlessly dunk on everyone because well... they aren't doing much else with their life. Sports are like this too. The mother fucker who has been playing the sport since childhood is always going to shit on the mother fucker who started playing it as an adult. I am a person that works 40+ hours a week. I never feel bad about getting shit on by mother fuckers who are level 300 or whatever. Why? Because I know they are just living in a way that allows them to play that much. It doesn't matter to me. People in the boat of "I AM A SINGLE FATHER WHO ONLY GETS TO PLAY 5 MINUTES A WEEK!! I DESERVE TO PILOT THE TANKS!!" is next level crazy to me.
>>582356694retard, quit yapping
Is buying hollow points and shooting peoples legs the best way to do things now? Or is FMJ still very much more useful?
>>582356694You posted this already.
>>582356694You haven't had a truly awful game where a teamstack prevents the other two teams even entering the control zone yet.
>>582356956I'd say that is more on good communication than it is a bunch of level 300 sweats shitting on you.
>>582356921I've found hollow points generally aren't worth it. You may get -1 shot to kill against limbs but an extra 10 or more shots to kill if you hit armor.
>One guys who is either a sweat or a cheater buys a box filled with Thermal recon scanners at the start of the game>Both enemy teams infinitely maphacked>Anyone who tries to push gets fucked without a chance of fighting back>games turns into an awful stalemate where drill building is the only way out>this causes everyone to become fish in a barrel, being stuck in a FOB and getting farmed by vehicles and explosivesThermal Scanners really can't stay in the game. The duration of recon map pings needs to be either displayed to the player that's pinged or reduced really significantly.
>>582357207They had 6 gunships just nuking anything that approached the zone.
niggas really be dying in the widest open, covered by 6 enemy snipers and expect to get revived
>>582357318The first time I ever hung out in a FoB for a significant amount of time, it rained mortars for like 90+ percent of that time. It was hell and I am never doing it again. What the fuck are the fob shitters even doing if they are getting rained on by mortars for nearly 20 minutes straight?
>>582357804waiting for revives on the ground
>>582357804rebuilding things mortars destroy and rezzing each otherthat's how you get so much xp fobbing
>>582357536i love when a guy that's getting mortared, shelled, covered by 34 snipers, 6 leopard MBTs, a rocket heli + havoc + hacked in unmanned prototype chinese AI drone squadron autonomously linked via third party software, my granny and being simultaneously killed and revived instantaneously by a clan of vibecoding scriptkiddies hops on the mic to call me a retarded faggot nigger for not trying to revive him 0.2 seconds after he died in the middle of a soccer field (no cover)
>Official servers>More likely to have hackers>Community servers>Less likely to have hackers but always has nigger stacks
>be an unc>play 4 hours of Wardogs>expected at least a few cozy slow building during a match>want to just do logistics with the occasional firefight>all the towers are at sniper range distance>helicopters with grenades, heat visions snipers, raids>have to build fast>no moments of cozy building Hopefully they will add some secondary mode with the oil drilling further away from each other.
>>582354948Did that last round, just hid in the same building as some red snipers and just spotted the entire game and made 170k
The Green, Blue, Red memes have ruined the browser.
>>582358781Don't always have to fob at towers, anon. Some decent fobs can be made around/between buildings and are easier to secure.
>Grab LMG with bipod and 4x>Bro grabs mono and defibs>We swipe the free pickup, stick music in it and a large crate with meds, stims, 556, defib batteries and a maaws just in case>Stash the crate somewhere>Follow hotzone blob around playing music, occasionally going back to de-rat a tower fob and tell the scared fobbits they're safe now>Literally never respawn the whole match and winAny other fat stacks ground pounder chads?Also people sleep on the M1911, .45 is amazing, the vector is probably going to be a fucking menace.
>>582358859genuinely, they need to make teams auto sorted this shit of getting guaranteed losses on blue is abyssmal
>>582361723They need auto team select but also a working in game group for like, 4 dudes at max so you can get your buddies in.
How do you sneak around if everyone can always hear you despite how slow you move.
>be me
>>582356694>Comparing hours played of social physical activity to videogamesShiggydiggy
i love the m249 sniper
>made it to 90k in one life before the game endedi don't think i'm going to be able to get this one without some kind of cheese
>>582364403I got 200k in one life by mostly spotting.
>>582364817when i've tried that either i can't get a good spot or the match is a blowout and over lickity split
rape or not to rape?
>>582364403as long as you dont respawn, you can die and still get it. Just wait for revives.
whats the best way to get support xp? the only thing i see is the rpg, or the shotgun.
>>582325276just nuke china already, literal jeets of the interwebs
>>582365172>lvl 1 armor set>free gun>big hammer>no bag>dead for 8+ minutesraped enough already
>>582367981jeets are the jeets of the interwebs nuke them too.
>>582336854>reference for the "real" RoF of guns? fmodel you slop apologist
I bought it now (late, I know) and I just don't get how the playerbase actually got dumber than it was in the beta/alphait also still has the same unfun cycle of>ok go into the field>buy kit, get to zone, die because everyone has the best guns and ammo types>someone is camping my body>revive and then die again>rinse and repeat until bandages are depleted>ok fine i'll do logi>little bird sucks balls for logi runs>it's also boring and my teammates are mouthbreathers that ask for supplies but don't actually deposit them into the fobI wanna like this but man it's tough
>>582361049this feels like a case of "the enemy team was comprised of retards and not a single half decent sniper" more than anything
>>582367901to be useful, buy a hammer (or steal the medium hammer from the fob's inventory) and help build stuff at the fob, get on the mortars when the big hammer fobbits build them and learn to mortar.to be useless, buy your own fob and use the med hammer to just spam buildings until you are out of supplies, then respawn with a truck and deliver build supplies to your own useless fob so you can make more useless buildings. try to always be swinging that hammer.if you have the levels already from playing other classes just buy the arty tank and spam that for faster support exp and you'll probably be much more useful to your team.
>>582368584Level 4 helmet lets you survive headshots from even big AP bullets, and even then why do you think my medic spot bud is one that got survivor not me?
>>582368787It means that the enemy team was stupid enough to not even bother holding a body for more than 2 minutes or use a spotting scope. Better yet, not a single mortar or tank either.
>>582368464dont die in dumb spots.join your blob and take meds from looting.littlebird is not a logi option, if no one needs a ride to zone buy crates and fill them with 1 stack of supplies each, then just dump it anywhere in the CZ and return to base.fobbits are lazy and cheap/poor and have no inventory space because they only ever buy the free backpack, meaning they literally cannot insert your crate supplies into the fob.the lakota is the only real logi option, trucks are just for leveling driver.
>>582342338>secure boot>jumping through hoopsscaremongering
>>582368948>Outside>Roof>Nowhere near rando teammates>Bipoded on anything other than something my body will fall behind for a safe rez>Staying in a house that just got mortar'dMaybe do do any of these stupid things? Are you just throwing your money away with the LMG and you think everyone else has the same problem?
>>582368787nothing can tank a 50bmg afaik, but that's 35 recon
>>582369235you are The Raped
>>582369441how?
>open game>join server>get in right as match begins>forced to play blue>clan on red>throwing smoke down and just onetapping everyone through it>close gameThank you Brammer. Your Vision(tm) is amazing.
>>582340995Lol that will not help much.
>me vs. red team pushing me in tower>kill four of them>finally killed>dead guy with thick slav accent says I suck>proceeds to keep saying Russia no. 1This must be what it would be like if dead Ivans had post mortem comms in eastern Ukraine
>>582346346this add jetpacks and plasma rifles and turn the game into planetside 2
>Singapoor friend complains about the cheaters dominating in asia region>No way its that bad>Joins SEA official server with him>Get mapwide defib farmed for 5 minutes straight>Cheater gets mass reported>a new name does it again 10 minutes later>Every time a cheater get mass reported, a new name comes in and pulls the defib cheatnow I get why asians are running to other regions... just region lock chinks and prevent VPN already.
>>582359224I'll try it. Didn't realise the oil drilling is not the only place to build. I guess the sweats /assault go for the drills.
>>582368464>i thought this game was bad in the beta>but i claim to have bought it anyway>then i made a super generic vaguepost about itsure you did sis
>>582368627you do have to hit people, vehicles and supply crates regularly for the arty tank to give more xp than hammering
If I get sniped it's from 1000 miles away. But if I try to snipe my sightlines are cucked by trees after 20 feet.
How many gold bars do you guise have as of now?Just bought my 7th and still need almost double that to get the golden akI want to fucking die
>>5823718350 :^)respect the grind tho, im just playing like 7 different games at once
>>582371835nonedont give a fuck about golden guns
You may not like it but in reality, Wardogs is a MMO PvP Shooter>Gears and Unlocks matters>Grinding to get money and levels for unlocks>Selective balance and realism>Gear/Unlock Difference between no lifers and casuals
>>582371835Won't be playing this game in two months so idc.
>>582371835This man could be flipping off downed players RIGHT NOW but would rather grind for a tacky skin for a shit AR
>>582371835what is this obsession with a shitty skin that gives away your location
Spotter gameplay is surprisingly fun.
>>582373556>being a cuck is funok.
>>582373663It requires a very high IQ to look at the right enemies. One could call it the thinking man's class.
>>582334726It's Ace of Spades all over again.
>>582371835buying gold this early is fucking retarded. the price of gold has already halved and it will keep trending down over time. save your money and buy at the end
>>582372518Nooooooooo.
>>582374995sheiiiit, i should play it again someday
>>582375416Just don't look at the game turned into. You can still get the old versions.
>>582375552openspades is the one i remember
>>582372518yeah I can see that. Attracts the same deranged phenotypes too
>>582371835>7 gold bars>lvl 88Bro I'm lvl 86 and have about $600k. What the fuck have you been doing? I mean, I'm sure it's normal to have more cash than I do but jesus
>Be green>Get a massive advantage at start with good play>some clan of rust kiddies with at least one aim/walling faggot starts clawing the win back for bluegets to our 97 vs their 80>I'm scrambling to get the drill up in our fob while this is happening>Get it up>Blue starts a drill pull at about 80, right as i go to press our drill pull>panicking >Gigachads in my squad manage to delay blue just enough for me to get the next drill pull off 3min after they start>Absolutely kino ending
>>582372518The thing that's nice about the gear difference, though, is it's not solo. You have a team that has unlocks soft counters en masse or a few hard counters
>>582376252Until you get an absurdly stacked enemy team.
>>582376105Almost pure logi.
>>582376180>playing nice and taking turns with drills>not calling in an arty tank and forcibly ending their pullfobbits are so weird
>>582377048FOBs are a gentleman's game
I'm bored of the ural now, when do we get a bigger truck?
when can we set armor faggots on fire?
>>582322650Yellow should be a randomly selected player who isn't on any team who gets a special spawn method and massive rewards for just disrupting everyone.
>>582322650They need a 4th team of 2 or 3 people that are neutral and just go around selling shit to people.
>>582378278Logical numbers would be 1, 4, 7, or 10 so the remaining teams are all the same size.
>>582378278you know everyone doing that would just be posing as this guy
>>582378634If enemies could open up your crates, I'd be 4th factioning like crazy
>>582374995WHY HAS EVERYONE WHO COPIED ACE OF SPADES COMPLETELY FUCKED IT UPITS A SHOVEL, BLOCKS, AND A GUNAND THEY ALL HAVE FUCKED IT UPPEOPLE WANT TO BUILD AND SHOOT EACHOTHER
i4w?
my only real complaint with this game is that i have to boot into microslop jeetware to run itit's unreal how much worse windows has gotten since the xp era
>>582382748
I just spent an entire match chasing the HZ, got 4 kills in the first few minutes and then didn't see another enemy player for the rest of the game until we won. It's actually insane how bad this game mode is, almost borderline mindnumbingly boring at this point, even when I chase combat there's just nothing fucking going on. How do you even make a game that turns out this way like holy shit congratulations or something
>>582379613more expensive mosin.
>Go behind the lines with a dune buggy>Drive in front of every Ural driver causing them to flip the entire truck over every time and then kill them and pop all the tires or destroy the trucks>They all switch to helicopter logistics insteadKinda wish Helis could not bring pallets feels too easy and risk free
All the youtube videos I watch must have fucking paid actors in them because holy fuck I see so many oblivious retards in youtube videos on this game.Every fucker in my matches is a twitchshooting schizo who is swivelling around constantly
>>582384009Any FPS eceleb is 100% on amphetamines
>>582383261That's not the gamemode at fault. It's the progression that created a huge gap between the player base, making every match extremely one-sided recently. Empty hotzones are a side effect of that. People just give up too early or don't even bother if they don't have T4 armor because they think they are going to get chewed up anyway.
>>582382748>>582382812kek
>>582383443so it isi'm surprised this doesn't 1-shot level 3 torsoi'm even more surprised it doesn't 1-shot arms or legsyou'd think having your limb blown off would make you combat ineffective
>>582383606They should require you to fully land in order to drop a pallet.
>>582384209It's this. Fighting is only cash and XP positive with everyone at low level gear or if you're at a crushing gear and position advantage. Only one side can have a crushing gear and position advantage, so if they do everyone else goes and does something else and if no one has that advantage then everyone goes and does something else. The problem is that everything else earns high cash and XP but is turbo boring and strongly negative net-fun for everyone. The entire economy and progression system is almost purpose designed to make a game that's not fun at all for 95% of players in 95% of games. It's wild how shit this Twitter addict's vision is.
Some guy just shot unloaded an SVD clip on me from 100+ meters away in seconds like it was and assault rifle. Is that due to tripod?
>>582385082You'd also think that wearing a 4kg welder's mask made of 4mm thick metal would obstruct your vision, make it harder to look around and make it impossible to get a cheek weld to use a scope (despite not even stopping pistol rounds IRL), yet here we are.
>It's another "Cheat stack is queued into your lobby" Episode
>>582385867If they're proned and using bipod, yes, but their accuracy shouldn't be pinpoint and there's no way they hit the same area repeatedlyIf they're standing or moving, they are 100% aimbotting.
>>582385867tripod was my nickname in high school
>>582385907This is the class 2 performance standard it was meant to be rated to BTW. Pistol rounds from poi t blank and any FMJ rifle round from close range should basically ignore those helmets completely. I hate these games like EFT that pander to trash slavshit equipment and make it seems like wunderwaffe when IRL it was all basically unusable dogshit designed at best for police and paramilitary work in low threat environments.>t. /k/ommando geerqueer seething at this game's shitty progression
The team I'm on is losing? 0-50-45? I'm dropping crates of 10 building supplies on the map. Simple as.
>>582386094>inb4 the anon who plays with no shadows and a recoil macro comes and tells you to git gud
>guy sells our whole team thermal binocs>i sell them all t4 armor and m4s>we are both at the top of the scoreboard by miles because we are the 75% jew and also played welldamn i need to unlock those
>>582386856So how much money do you make in total from selling equipment to other players? Do you get bonus cash if players get kills with any guns you sell?
My team is losing 0-90-90? I'm buying a 60k kit and soloing the enemy FOBs.
>>582387060I made like $5k each off the helmets, yes you get xp and cash for kills. Didn't pay too much attention.
>>582387060nta but guns yes, thermal binos noi wish i got to jew a % of the recon xp from each of their spots but The Vision doesn't accommodate my parasitic merchant nature
>>582387393Now buy that outside of the firing range
>>582387608Wouldn't it show $0 for the gear value if that's what he did?
blue moment
>>582388976blue lifetime*
>>582386094I don't remember the exact distance, but it was 100+ m. I was running up the upper outer stairs on tower, heard success fire all around me, then instantly died with t3 helm and t2 armor>>582386280Let's see it
if they remove all the gear past tier 2 the game would actually be goodremove the hotzone too btw
>>582391693Remove everything but the mosin. We're WW1 mercs now
>>582387060>Do you get bonus cash if players get kills with any guns you sell?Yes. That's the money cheat; you get $1k per kill a player on your team scores with your guns.This streamer makes $700k a mission doing it
My friend and i like running an ambulance service. We get a humvee, fill the inventory with bandages and smokes, one drives and the other has a defib. We drive to the hot zone and park around people who need reviving, smoke, revive them and have them enter the humvee to heal in safety. Its really fun but the main problem is that whoever is driving gets basically fuck all xp and cash. Driving the car around the battlefield gives basically no money, which is lame.
>>582393113They need to rework in zone driving and general partisan stuff too.
Joe Brammer is a gay kike who sucks penis and swallows semen.
there should be team wide super weapons that are so expensive that the whole team has to chip in back at base. Like renting a satellite for whole map recon or massive missile strikes. there should be bidding wars.
>>582394695turn the map into night for 15 minutes and only the team that bought it can buy high level vision gear.
I'd kill for a snowy mountain map>Helicopters can't fly well due to high altitude>Unique snowplow trucks to clear roads for logi>harsh weather reduces range>Heat generators to keep fobs warm and remove snow/ice from buildings
now sure if>scam>generous>or metawhat d'ya think, can't rate simply because I've not unlocked most of the stuff he dropped there
there should be a 24/7 map server where the game score goes up forever and only occasionally resets for server stability reasons for the ultimate casual experience.
>>582397279>it has been 65 days>blue has yet to score
why do people i see on twitch and youtube seem to have no recoil on their guns while my guns fly like crazy? some guy laser beamed me with an mp9 from 100m away, when i fired my mp9 from the prone position at a guy 100m away i can only hit the first shot.
>>582397054People buy late game equipment and put them into chests for newer players to buy. Newer players get later game shit, guy gets cash for selling and if you kill people with his shit. Not breaking any rules.
>>582397450aim hacks are built directly into the twitch and youtube client
>>582397601The mechanic has created a really broken meta where >>582357318 this is the easiest strat to win. More and more people are picking up on it being unassailable as a strategy, and every latewipe game will eventually just become some variant of one player providing the meta weapon or tool to everyone.
>>582397601you actually cant buy if you dont meet the requirements for it. ie ghillie suit and cap, lvl 4 armor, just like it says in op's pic
sellling is a valid money maker
Custom game mode where instead of individual player unlocks each team gets a different set of random selection of unlocks for everyone on each team.
>>582398623that's for ww2 mothafucka
>>582398623this is literally just chinese players in any fps game
>>582397450>why do people i see on twitch and youtube seem to have no recoil on their guns while my guns fly like crazy?weapon attachments are extremely powerful
>>582398623>japanese person says something bad about chinese peoplenoooo waaaaay...
>>582399864>the chinese behave poorlyDISU NEVAH HAPPENUPUHREASE STOPPU SAYLINGU ARE HURTING THE FEELING OF 10000000000000000000 PEOPLE!!!!!!
>turn away from a window i'm firing out of on a whim since the fight died down>green goblin right behind me with an ak>he shoots>but only shoots once>his magazine only had 1 bullet loaded from when he bought it>i blow him away with the .50 at point blank>we talk about how he's going to go to bulkhead's offices and rape them all while bremmer watches in the cuck chairlove can bloom on the battlefield, anons
>>582347940put "you fired a shot, and missed" in the damage log
>>582356223as it is in this game, try following HZ in super heavy loadout, shit is painful
>>582361049i yoinked a vector off a body recentlyit's really "premature ejaculation: the gun" it goes out so fast
>>582372392it's not even goldenit's black with golden trim
>>582400256uhm, sis? you're stims?
>>582400036>SAAR THE BLOODY CHINESE BENCHODS SAAR
>>582398005yes u can, I bought thermals this way
>>582400583never stayed long enough to run out, buddy? I respect your infantry logi playstyle, thanks for the stims, I got them from the guy that killed you
Just had a game playing as blue that finished 98-100-23 and we lost for two reasons 1. Some retard called the HZ to our FOB when we had a 20 man blob in HZ dominating the zone and 2, at the very end of the when everyone is rushing back to the zone after getting wiped some fucking retard crashed a 6 man little vird and that cost us the game, im so fucking mad right now at how one retard making one retarded decisions twice cost us the game
>>582369436Level 4 can stop .50 BMG but only past 900mSo functionally it won’t, unless you’re shooting across the entire CZ
>literally every server will have 3-4 blatant ragehackers in it nowwas fun while it lasted
>>582397054>$7,942genuinely how do people end up like this
>>582402409I was always flat broke until I got the tank, I spent everything on supplies to get driver XP.
>>582403084you thought it was worth it to not bother dumping pallets specifically at a fob and just dumped as soon as you got to cz? lol
>some fucking retard drops ghillie and .50 crate on spaceYAAAY I HAVE NO TEAM ANYMORE, GREAT PLAY DUDE
remove flare cooldown on helos
Imagine if they uncapped the revive bribe
>>582403263learn to fly at the missile lock floor you subhuman
>>582401242Fobbits literally cannot help themselves. If they place the drill, they’ll start it on cooldown. It doesn’t matter if you have a deathball holding the HZ. The fobbit has placed a drill, and lord knows they’ll try their best to use it for the five seconds it’s active before it gets shelled by every mortar and artillery tank in the match .
>>582403816there are two ways to win the game: play the hotzone, or play the fobblue team has a chronic problem with choosing 1. both or 2. neither
>>582404558playing the fob only works if you have air superiority thoughbeit
I am so assblasted that this game has mobile MMORPG progression. It looked so cool. Why does everything always suck in >current year?
>people die>i take their stuff>then i rez them>they are big mad>i dont rez them>they are not as madweird
Reminder to steal all helifaggots flares out of their choppers while they transport you.
>>582406650>Get my flares stolen>Fly to the edge of the map too fast and low to parachute out>Kick you out and make you walk backEZ
Anyone else have their game freeze when jumping out of a heli?
Got a real taste of vertical progression yesterday, some nigger with vector was deleting people from 150m in 0.1 of a secondSo I try this gun in a firing range and this nigger gun has literally 0 recoil with no attachments. What the fuck?
>>582407876if you press escape and wait 30 seconds, you can click "return to spawn"
Wait, why would you use any of the other SMGs over the starter one? Ignoring the final one because I’m not that far into the progression yet, and that thing is retardly strong like all of the other max level guns. From what I can tell, the damage isn’t any different between them, the recoil difference is negligible, the other two have worse access to bigger mags because they’re levelgated to shit, and their biggest mags take three slots instead of two anyway. They also have a slower fire rate, so a slower TTK and cost more. Am I missing something, or do these things just not have a use?
>>582408823No, MP9 and Vector are the only SMGs worth using, you got that right
uhhh amboutacoooom
>>582408903Awesome. What other guns are like this? I can’t imagine SMGs are the only category where the balancing is this retarded.
>doors don't stop the blast wave and let damage through them unlike walls>gates take 1 c4 to destroy just like the doorsgay
>>582403185Palletes? I dropped large boxes with 1 bandage each, worth more xp
>>582408146>Windows settings>Display>Graphics>Advanced graphics settings>Disable Hardware-accelerated GPU scheduling (HAGS)Your welcome
>its another blue shells the fob to hand the win to green episode
>>582409617>Join green>like 4 fobs set up with plenty of builders and logi>Join blue>No fobs >No squads>heli crashing >some gay guy talking about his twitch stream in spawn Wow, it really is Planetside 2 returned.
>>582408823MP5 has minimal recoil so it's better at a distance but then again if you're using an SMG at a distance then something is wrong
>>582409875ak is fine
>>582409090SMGs are the most retarded, for sure. The so called Assault Rifles make more sense progression wise.
>2am>na west>match starts>chinese names hitting crazy shots on people they never even saw>log offsigh
>>582410776>they never even sawHow can you possibly know this?
>>582411078Kill cam shows them inside a building often enough
>>582411078nta but in my games the hackers kill both of the enemy teams in just a couple of seconds
>>582411078have you seen chinese eyes? there's no way man.
I regularly get killcams that show the enemy behind 6 layers of various cover. It looks like they're walling. But it could also be the delay between me getting killed and the killcam moving to the killer. The killer can move positions before the cam catches up. I think.
>>582411159People can shoot then go back into cover in the time it takes for the kill cam to fly over.
>>582411167>>582411178He isn't talking about one player wiping the server in a few seconds, but just dying to a sniper.
>>582411078Because I've been gaming likely longer than you've been alive. I know cheats when I see them, and chinese names make it a lot easier to confirm.
>>582411389yeah except sometimes you are in a spot where the only open direction is directly the opposite of the killer cam so there's no way for him to move that fast
>>582409503didnt even know this setting existed, havent gotten the chance to hop into the game and test this yet but thanks for the recommendation.
>>582411489i was making a racist joke
new thread>>582412190>>582412190>>582412190
>>582408823The MP5 is way better at range. The MP9 starts faltering at any medium range, anything over 100m away becomes harder to hit. The MP5 has more weight and a slightly slower rate of fire, but it's a lot more consistent and lethal when fighting anything past 100m. Which happens a lot in this game. Definitely a sidegrade, but it fits my playstyle. I like to be able to engage in fights when playing medic, especially in the HZ. I found the MP9 a bit lacking there. I could land some hits at medium range with the MP9, but with the MP5 in the same situation, it doesn't just scrape, it kills. Looted a vector of a poopsocket too, that thing just decimates with it's super high rate of fire. I didn't like the PP19. It has the benefit of a bigger mag but it has the slowest rate of fire and is a little bit more troublesome to handle.
>>582326679>>582340661nice try ching chong, nobody likes you
