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>Latest patch:
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Threadlocked: >>582244550
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Deadlock more like Deaddead
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So why is the nigger hero Apollo allowed to cover as much distance as three dashes with one ability that is also three nukes?
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>>582325246
literally just stand behind a wall or object lol
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>>582325075
Best *dead*lock girl? Obviously Graves
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>>582325246
>three dashes
That would be mina not apollo, his movement is just to reposition so he can thrust into you properly
>also three nukes?
That's accurate though, as for why it's cause That's his "gimmick", being a spirit nuker, only reason you don't see more seeth about him is cause calico does his bullshit faster and easier
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>>582325406
Yes but only with her hair down.
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hummm today I will play grenade venator and mostly pick green items
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flopping shota remcock
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>>582325638
now shes just boring whore
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>>582325435
>throwing jars of skulls
Only 4 at a time and then you're screwed
>zombies
As i said, they're basically cannon fodder for paige.
Personally I've reached a point where I'm basically relying on the bruisers/assassins in my team to get the AOE spammers so i can contribute, otherwise i just accept my fate
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>>582325892
Pigtails are unironically one of the worst fucking hairstyle.
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Are early ganks good or bad long term? The net me a lot of stacks but I don't see other player doing it.

Also I love healing rite with this play style. 2m/s sprint speed can make these early rotations really viable
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>>582325638
What about short hair graves?
>>582325892
>whore
You shut your faggot mouth
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>>582325904
>4 at a time
Your Rapid Recharge + Echo Shard for a total of 6?
>As i said, they're basically cannon fodder for paige.
>Personally I've reached a point where I'm basically relying on the bruisers/assassins in my team to get the AOE spammers so i can contribute, otherwise i just accept my fate
Yeah that's the case with ANY Graves build. You're not designed to go diving backline. That's an unavoidable part of Graves, my issue was that I went Gun because we had 4 other Spirit damage dealers already and got bombarded with random bullshit cause I had to actually be near people the whole fight against AoE spammers and that I am just gonna go Spirit next time regardless cause I'd rather lose and be comfy than stressing the fuck out balancing out the team's damage output types against AoE spammers. Never mentioned fixing any fundamental issues of Graves that exist regardless of build. There is no fixing her inability to pick off the backline, you're stuck brooling their carries and tanks.

>>582326290
Too butch looking.
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>>582326264
>Are early ganks good or bad long term?
Good especially on stacking characters like mo/drifter IF you don't sacrifice your lane, so get in and out quickly
>but I don't see other player doing it.
I saw like 4 mo players do it and succeed in like, the last month or so, it's viable, but if you give up lane the enemy team will capitalise and rotate too
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>>582326475
>Your Rapid Recharge + Echo Shard for a total of 6?
I Don't like rapid recharge
>I'd rather lose and be comfy
Fair enough
>Never mentioned fixing any fundamental issues of Graves that exist regardless of build. There is no fixing her inability to pick off the backline, you're stuck brooling their carries and tanks.
That's fine i just thought there might be a solution, since currently in games where im graves vs paige it's genuinely unplayable, thought you might have some secret tech i was unaware so i brought it up
>Too butch looking.
Nah it's cute and tomboyish
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Let's talk about why Deadcock flopped
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losing hope
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>>582327001
It's the name, should have picked something good and descriptive like 2XKO
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>>582326118
Gun damage on some heroes I get, but not getting green spike is just throwing, especially with how easy it's to justify even just a single 6400.
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>>582327114
Surprised you even had hopes in the first place for today.
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>>582326264
They're good if you're good. The biggest issue is doing it without alerting your lane partner or doing it when you shouldn't be. If the wave is pushed up to your guardian do not decide "I don't want to deal with this I'm going to go gank." That's when you're sacrificing a lane for one stack, that's dumb, especially if its blue which is the most important lane for map control but also the easiest lane to gank early from. Be smart and don't be a dick to your lane partner. Some people are better at holding alone too, it your lane mate is Abrams he can probably handle it. If it's Rem you're setting him up for failure.

I think people generally don't do it at lower levels or even mid and upper mid ranks because bad players are too bad to even consider it and slightly better players are good enough to know they could be fucking their lane and thus are too shook to do it. It unironically is something that requires higher level coordination and game knowledge or you're going to do more harm than good.
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Why is Graves always banned? Let me play her bros.
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>>582327552
Because she throws it back, anons don't want to lose if they get her on their team
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>>582327552
low elo doesn't know you can jump over the root and quick melee the skulls, so she is op
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Rems pillow should apply a debuff called nightmare then if you ult someone while its applied they go to the baroness
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So how was Yesterday's patch?
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only a few hours to go

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4icEbjtb9vA
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>>582328397
Boho is fun as fuck but I was hoping for Wrecker to win the vote
Also the Slorkfag seethe has been delicious
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>>582328557
Never voting Slork. Let them wait
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>>582326264
If I get a good lane where my enemies either died already or are really low (and aren't lane Hitlers that can take a guardian 5 minutes in quickly) I'll push the lane up to their guardian, tell my teammate to go do camps or boxes or something and go run disruption.
If I can't get a kill in like 30 seconds though I'm going back. Evaluate the situation on lane, if it's still all good do it again, maybe on a different lane if I'm mid. The sheer reminder of a threat of a third guy jumping in is enough to make people go play more passively.
t. Calico main cat movement crutch, but I assume with some tranny movement you could do the same with everyone.
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it's up
https://project8-data.community.forum/video/98/98037-5d84b9ddbbc2cf699f5677cf0376e950.mp4
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>>582328427
...and 3 days.
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>>582329107
yoshi, add slark
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Yoshi, add a Friends of Humanity character in a KuKluxKlan robe with giant red swastikas painted on him.
Yoshi, make him misgender Pocket.
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>>582325607
Not that anon but yeah it's basically three dashes. An Apollo in my game yesterday climbed a building with it and escape a teamfight. Nerf this fucking faggot ass character.
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Once again I ask for a good laning guide that isn't made by m*tro
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>>582329553
Google Deadlock movement guides
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>>582329553
slowing hex
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>>582329709
what exactly are you having problems with
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>>582329709
>laning guide
Just play the game, you retard.
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DAWN OF THE FINAL DAY
https://strawpoll.com/Dwyo3r1AXyA
https://strawpoll.com/Dwyo3r1AXyA
https://strawpoll.com/Dwyo3r1AXyA
https://strawpoll.com/Dwyo3r1AXyA
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>>582329818
Just general flow and logic. Feel like I get bullied in lane and end up feeding or losing it overall.
Most I've read and seen is getting last hits/denies is the most important thing, and that it's best to take fights when you have the advantage in the number of creeps.
IDK how much I should be focusing on the enemy heroes and how much I should be ignoring them to make sure I get all my last hits/go for denies.
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>>582330105
If you don't know your matchup, just focus on farming and denying and doing boxes when your lane is pushed up.

If you know your matchup and it's bad, just focus on farming and denying and doing boxes when your lane is pushed up.

If you know your matchup and it's good, just focus on farming and denying and doing boxes when your lane is pushed up and take small trades during laning phase/zone them off their farm if they are low.

Do not forget to do your box runs. I'm not joking. This is a big deal.

If you're really getting cucked you can swap lanes or ask your team for a gank.
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need more characters being hanged
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>>582330020
good job retards
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>>582330105
Just focus on last hitting and denying and only engage if they're clearly overextended. You can still poke them with spells and gun, but don't waste your time in the first 5-10 minutes trying to brool with them. Try to keep the lane pushed out as much as possible so you can back off to farm boxes and small camps too.
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is streetbrawl supposed to be so stompy? just started last night and i dont think ive played a single game thats gone past 3 rounds yet
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>>582330105
It depends. For a lot or characters just tap the enemy heroes from time to time to stop their regen but some guys can very effectively take huge chunks of enemy HP. Creeps are important but if your enemy is so low they have to hide behins tower or run away, the creeps are for free.
Spirit nukers have it easy because they can use abilities to chip enemies and guns to deny.
Also, don't get parried.
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>>582330908
street brool is a failed experiment and in need of major tweaks right now, it's pretty much only decent if you abuse the meta characters in that mode
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>>582330650
And if they keep going full retard aggro, still prioritize the farm/kill the wave and have the creeps bully them on my behalf?
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the drake equation for deadlock patches says it's imminent
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>>582330908
>>582331035
All they had to do was make it so you just hit play and it would queue you up. Instead they have you choose a character and people just spam the same shit. The mode would be fixed if they added in hero randomizer.
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>>582330105
if its about your micro gameplay like parries or landing skillshots or getting caught out then theres no way around it but to play more
you're not expected to win every lane, some heroes just suck against others and to learn matchups you gotta play more. besides since the lane is 2vs2 it heavily depends on your teammate, so you're not winning ANY trade if you engage and your teammate blasts creeps or browses the side shop
play around timers like 2:00/3:30 camp spawn or 5 minute rune spawn or 8 minute sinners spawn, try to push the wave before these timers so enemies have either to clear wave or contest you
losing your guardian is not a big deal, it dies to a sneeze after 10 minute mark anyway, so dont trade your health defending it if you can still secure souls like from a roof or behind a corner
try to find "patterns" for your favorite heroes, like jerk off behind a veil as bebop waiting for a cheeky bomb stack or find a good position to stack viper or shiv knives while enemies clear creeps, that thing. generally just play more.
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>>582331172
Those are losing odds though??
t. XCOM player
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ain't no way they gone release a patch on a friday blud :skull: :joy:
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You dont release on a friday because you dont want to spend the weekend fixing bugs jerk offs
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>>582331782
all of valve's engineers are so good that they write bug free code first try with no ai, and without ever using a mouse except to wake their pc
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>>582329709
Stop chasing low ppl into their guardian
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>>582326884
>I don't like Rapid Recharge
It's more skulls and it gives more Spirit Power specifically to said skull spell so they hurt more. No reason to hate it, not like you got a reason NOT to get it. What else are you gonna get as Graves? Fucking reverb? Divine Kevlar? Not likely.
>nah it's cute and tomboyish
Default/long hair graves is tomboyish, that short hair mod one looks butch af

As for the other thing; Unfortunately there is no real way to fix Graves' lack of dealing with backline, cause sure you can get in but unlike YOUR OWN TEAMMATES, the entire enemy team will actually turn around to protect their supports and DPSes and you ain't surviving that as Graves.

You kinda just exist to make enemy frontliners miserable, especially people who rely on jumping and constantly doing movement shit to throw people's aim off so they survive their own dives more by having a literal lock-on auto-aim weapon that steals their Spirit Resist and Gun Damage and applying shit like Toxic Bullets and Inhibitor to them for free so they never have the damage or sustain to survive unless they're super-ahead. If you wanna kill backline you play something else.

Otherwise all you can do is poke and prod at the idea of it. Try diving their backline 1 or 2 times by flanking, if only like one or 2 other people come to help you can PROBABLY win it with the right items but if more than that turn around to get you off their support you're stuck brooling with their frontliners and protecting your own backline.
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Am I just a coping shitter or does like half the playerbase actually use autoparry?
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>>582332243
>What else are you gonna get as Graves? Fucking reverb? Divine Kevlar?
Why they are S tier on graves
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>>582331035
>>582331217
>Make ARAM mode
>Dont make it random
What was the thought process here?
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>>582332369
at least in eu most are using autoparry yes
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>>582331051
A lot of times, yes. If they are wasting time shooting you they're not last hitting/denying properly so you will leave lane with a soul advantage. Sometimes they will put themselves in a position where you can punish them by fighting - they overextend, you have good cooldowns or just hit an item spike, they're fighting in wave, etc. You can't play completely passively all the time. Honestly, if you're confused what to do when, pick one character and spam them. You will learn your powerspikes, how fast you can do certain box routes, what your good matchups are, when to fight, etc a lot faster.
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deranked from ascendant 1 all the way to phantom 3. end my suffering.
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we, yes WE will be rockin the sheathy rem mod from e621
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Leech or vampire burst for Vindicta?
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>>582333023
vamp burst without a doubt
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>>582333023
Leech is terrible most of the time, Vampiric is excellent for lategame m1ggers and Vin enjoys having extra ammo
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>it's another paige lane janny making the game last 30 minutes more than it should
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patch in 3!
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>>582331782
huh?
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>>582332376
She has no good nukes for Reverb. Kevlar is for more 'active' ult users. You're gonna be babysitting that tombstone unless you're stomping or against idiots. I GUESS Kevlar can work for if you're REALLY having to defend that Tombstone tooth and nail but otherwise you got other options. Like Spirit Burn, cause if your skulls all bop the same person, you get a proc and chunk their ability to heal themselves, if a Ghoul explodes on them it also goes off, which is super helpful for your team. Rapid Recharge + Echo Shard for 6 jars of skulls and Spirit Burn so that if your skulls or ghouls hit someone they get hit with a burn and heavy heal reduction without you doing anything. But if you're going for maximum raw Ghoul explosion damage instead of providing some kind of utility I GUESS you can swap Burn for Kevlar.
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wednesday day of the week
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IT'S OUT
RESTART THE STEAM
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why do enemies turn around when you stun them? e.g. stone form/riposte or from a parry
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>>582333418
02/25/25, map rework, tuesday
05/08/25, shop rework, thursday
08/18/25, new heroes, monday
01/22/26, old gods new blood, thursday
07/30/26, mm overhaul, thursday
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>>582333418
>>582333782
>mid urn and march 6 were friday patches
uhhhh
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>>582333418
this is a massive content update anon you're not releasing it on a friday you just arent you can release Celeste's Shield CD from whatever the fuck to whatever the heck but not a massive content update with reworks and stuff it just doesnt happen
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>>582333805
bro what are these names
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>>582330908
Its so horribly unbalanced despite the premise being RNG so anything can happen.

Paige rapes the gamemode because its super easy to make her built in guardian ward broken as fuck and her dragons hit basically the entire fucking lane and do insane damage and ontop of that she has an immobilize. If that wasnt bad enough you also have Viper raping everybody by holding M1 and again super easy for her to make her DPS absurd with enhanced items and legendaries. And because of the nature of the mode its hard to counter build against peoople.

Im tired of seeing the same few characters every game
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HE is online
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>>582333023
does ANY hero even buy leech nowadays?
haven't seen anyone buying it in weeks if nor months
infuser and vamp boost are just better
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heads up we are planning on releasing the major content update early next week
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HE SENT A MESSAGE. ITS NEXT WEEK
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>>582334102
maybe wraith and infernus, not core items though
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>>582333963
this game is so funny
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WE FUCKING WON!!!! GET FUCKED OCTOBER CHUDS
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>October 1st confirmed
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it's over
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>>582334331
could be sunday btw
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>>582334371
fine day, sunday
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>>582334174
yeah i remember infernus and wraith always got it back in the day but nowadays i don't see it picked even by those heros
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>>582334331
delet this
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>>582244742
replying to the rape victim from last thread to say my condolences dear
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>>582334331
>no faggot flag reacts
holy moses
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>you will never ever impregnate Lady Geist
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>>582334331
Real?
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Sept 30th 8:00pm EST
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>>582334371
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Fell for it again award
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>>582334331
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>>582334331
The question is - Monday or Tuesday? God forbid Wednesday
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>>582334331
>early next week
>also yoshi said not monday
they are going to release it on the very last day of september i know it and yes i know the not monday thing is just to avoid being specific
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>>582334571
sunday confirmed
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>>582334571
29th or 30th, still end of september. We won.

ALL THOSE CLOWNS SAYING IT WOULDNT BE UNTIL SOME DUMB ASS RANKED SEASON SHOULD KILL THEMSELVES NOW!!!
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>>582334371
weeks begin on monday you kike
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UPDATE IS CONFIRMED. NOT A DRILL.
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>>582334571
keep messaging with subsequent days until he says yes to one
easy
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>>582334716
>Late september
>LITERALLY LAST DAY OF THE MONTH
KEKAROO
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>>582334475
>>582334716
sep 24thcucks lost
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>>582327552
I have no issues getting Graves on NA.
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"update when the season ends"sissies how do we respond to the new info????
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is Doorman good?
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Kneel
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>>582334903
if you expected anything less I have a bridge to sell you
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>>582333979
How can it be unbalanced? They nerfed lash ground slam.
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>>582335043
good character, terrible playerbase, you have a good doorman 1 in 25 matches with him on your team
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>>582335106
may I see the bridge?
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>>582334229
you're lucky they ended
usually they'd try to play normally for some reason
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>>582334331
>major content update
>content update
>major
>MAJOR

ITS GOING TO BE A FUCKING MASSIVE UPDATE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

6 NEW HEROES

ALL OLD HEROES GET REMODELS

SINCLAIR GETS A COMPLETE REWORK

4 LANES AND A BRAND NEW MAP

REWORKED MAP OBJECTIVES

2 NEW SHOPS
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>>582335232
it helps that our whole team gave up together
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>>582335271
SEX ADDED
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"No comeback" meta is so fucking boring.
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>>582335271
some of that is even true
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>>582332813
For me it's Faputa cause I'm not mentally ill (a gay furry)
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>>582332243
>It's more skulls
Meh
>and it gives more Spirit Power specifically to said skull spell so they hurt more.
They die either way cause Q(lol) and I'd rather just boundless
>reverb & kevlar
This is gonna sound crazy but.....kevlar and reverb are inasne if the enemy team doesn't have an ivy/paige
>backline
I wouldn't dive them if they would STOP KILLING MY FUCKING ZOMBIES PAIGE YOU FUCKING BITCH
>enemy frontline
Can't do shit there either, you can poke a little but your weapon range movment and shit is too restrictive, if they just fuck off you're fucked, unless you chase them in which case you're gonna get clapped and plapped.
I think graves's problem is that she's not a front liner or a backliner, as in she's not designed to go IN balls deep due to her lack of movement and sustain, but if she stays back her usefulness(which is already limited) is cut in half
>short is butch, long is tomboyish
I respect your opinion but that's retarded, goth graves best skin.
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>>582334331
100% delayed till October 4th lmao, get fucked retards
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>patch releasing just far enough away that I can fully enjoy control 2 this weekend
thanks broshi
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OCTOBERTRANNIES ARE YOU OKAY? ARE YOU OKAY TRANNIES?
>OCTOBERTRANNIES ARE YOU OKAY? ARE YOU OKAY TRANNIES?
SO RANKED SEASONTRANNIES ARE YOU OKAY? ARE YOU OKAY TRANNIES?
>SO RANKED SEASONTRANNIES ARE YOU OKAY? ARE YOU OKAY TRANNIES?
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>going abroad October 1st
>hear the patch is late september
>"at least I'll get a couple of days with it
>they're literally dropping September 30th
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>>582333567
>She has no good nukes for Reverb.
Her zombies, ir you put it on ult it works for all zombies summoned even if they come from the 2.....you knew that right....?
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>>582335485
>i'm not a gay pedophile furry i'm just a straight pedophile furry, big difference!
yeah sure buddy
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>>582334539
Worst girl by a country mile
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>4 or 5 days until Sinclair becomes unrecognizable
We had a good run Magicianchads...
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>>582335847
most of the cool shit will be timegated anyway
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>>582335879
>monster girl is somehow the same thing as a full-blown animal
Retard.
>pedophile
Only if you're a furry. It's ALWAYS the fucking furnigger shota/lolicons that get hit for CP but not the weebs.
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>>582334571
Well well well....
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>>582335271
I... came a little...
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>late september
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>>582336045
>It's ALWAYS the fucking furnigger shota/lolicons that get hit for CP but not the weebs.
holy delusion lmao
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>>582336019
well, there's a decent chance we're getting 1 new hero on wednesday or so. and then two weeks until the cool heroes get voted in
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>>582329709
metro is dogshit at the game but surely he has the info you need if you're asking in the first place?
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>>582332369
Depends, are you spamming heavy melee nonstop so they can press F when they hear the audio cue? If so then maybe they are legit.
Are you alternating between regular shots, skills and light melee in more or less random ways and you still get the out of the blue light melee parried? Then yes, that's autoparry.
Also vodkarunes on name doubles the chances a player is cheating.
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So early next week but not monday literally has to be Tuesday right? Wednesday if they're arseholes
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>>582335829
hero labs returning is a wasted space that shit aint neva comin back
id put big item update or map/lane rework there
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>>582330020
>>582334571
TodayKEKS... MondayTARDS... it's OVER
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>>582335271
>SINCLAIR GETS A COMPLETE REWORK
Why do people keep begging for this? He just needs a real model. His abilities are fun and work well together.
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>>582335829
>Tower rework
i hope so
>new hero, PvE, camps and remodels
These are safe bets, I'll be happy with the PvE though I'm confident HOMOSEXUALS ITT, will shot on it months later because they're gay.
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>>582334229
>that vic build
wtf
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How many Silver bugs will this MASSIVE update introduce? Place your bets
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>>582334764
>week begins on monday
>calling anyone a kike
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>>582335372
>>582335271
SEX WITH IVY
HOODWINK SEX CROSSOVER
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>582335856
I had to re-check Reverb and realized it only has a ~4 second cooldown with Transcendent CD. Also had to re-check the damage ratio on Decree and yeah nevermind I guess Reverb is alright on it. 1.27x Spirit + the 5% current health damage per Ghoul explosion is pretty good for Reverb. I'll just have to concede on that one I guess. Didn't know about it also applying to the Ghouls from her 2 though. That's news to me.
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>>582334331
I don’t see it on the discord it’s fake
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>>582334331
I'm betting tuesday
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>>582336276
idk sinclair survived the others might though I don't even remember what the other ones do anymore
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>>582334371
>>582334764
>>582336609
monday is the start of the week in all civilized modern first-world countries

saturday/sunday is the start of the week in poo in loo street shitter countries like usa and india
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>>582330020
>most votes are for today
unreal how all of you retards keep falling for it again and again, and the saddest thing is we'll go through the same song and dance for the item update, and then the next major update in 2027, and then open beta, ad vitam æternam
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I have nothing to do this weekend so I'm killing myself. Its your fault for releasing the patch next week yoshi piss
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>>582336813
>EU
>first-world and civilized
>in current year
lol, lmao even
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Remodel wishlist?
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>>582336609
kikes' week begins on sunday
their weekend is friday+saturday because shabbath begins on friday
hope that helps
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>>582336426
we gave up very early so i just bought that shit to push a lane near the end
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>deadlock is shutting down it’s servers permanently on September 30th. Anyone found attempting to make a community based server or fan game will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Also valve is immediately shifting to become a publicly traded company with the slimiest fucking investors we can find. Fuck you guys I hope you all get paralyzed in a car accident lololol
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>>582336813
>week starting on Sunday
This is some zogbot shit
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>>582337139
my wishlist is that the supposed vyper leak that still has legs is fake, and krill gets a makeover that looks cool instead of retarded
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>>582337139
full gorgon mode vyper
full mystic alchemist vendetta mage warden
REMODEL THE DAMN MIDBAWS ALREADY
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>>582337097
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The week starting on Sunday confounds the euro. The european mind cannot comprehend the fact, it simply refuses. The week starts when work starts, thinks the euro. Sunday is not a workday, he laments. It cannot be.
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>>582337441
>he says as Muslims run people over in the Christmas market every year in Germany among other goat-fucker related crimes across all of EU
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>>582337456
what that retard doesn't understand, but also it's not like it matters with valve who updated the game on 11:59 new years eve, dates literally don't matter to them
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>>582337272
Based
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>>582330020
chewsday innit
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ITS UP
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>>582337456
it confounds anyone with a brain because its retarded like every american custom
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Tuesday or Wednesday lads call it.
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>>582338049
probably tuesday
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>>582338049
Probably up in the air, but I'd guess Tuesday. Monday back in office, final testing, then Tuesday release unless something is borked
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>>582337941
The first day of the week belongs to the Lord you godless communist fuck.
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>>582337632
>goes to school
>gets shot
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>>582338152
cringe
you're playing a game that has pentagrams everywhere
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>>582338169
this is a change right? im not crazy? he wasnt shooting out lasers before
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>>582337632
usa is niggerinfested and arabinfested and jewinfested

in fact you're literally the shithole of the world now that i think about it
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>>582338243
Venator
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>>582338252
yeah
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>>582338252
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>>582338169
Arg shit?
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>>582338212
>>goes to school
underageb&... no...
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>>582338329
>can buy items called "cultist's sacrifice" and "vampiric burst"
some christian he is
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>>582338381
Pirate Hero confirmed
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>>582338169
>>582338371
new gods red eyes update CONFIRMED...
wonder if this means hideout changes in update
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>>582338258
holy O B S E S S E D
must be painful to be such a loser faggot living without liberty in this world
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>>582338169
>>582338371
Me when your mom
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>>582336813
Once again Muzzies know what's up.
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>>582338252
he only did it once before an update
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>>582338419
he does extra damage to heathens who activate vampiric burst
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>>582338419
Jesus boughted cultists and sac'd himself for your sins
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>>582335372
Nice
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>>582338419
he's one of those cool evil slayers who dips into evil relics to combat evil
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>>582338601
>Selfcast for cultust sacrafice
This should be a thing for funnies.
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>>582338478
can you turn on caps lock? can't hear you very well over the jewcock in your mouth
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when you're in a silver kinda mood
https://youtu.be/N_1Dicox_mE?si=bWyEqVNvynPzmDyl
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>>582334571
TuesGODS we just keep winning
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>>582338371
>>582338169
There's probably more shit to find in the various maps but we'll let the others look for 'em while I continue my Mountain Blade playthrough (just married a steppe waifu thanks for asking)
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Would you guys rather have
>six new heroes, no remodel for another year
Or
>Remodel and additional art passes for ALL heroes, but no new heroes for another year
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>>582336813
Someone explain this nonsensical distribution.
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>>582338252
yup
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>>582336432
Graves and doorman have way more bugs then BITCHlver
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>>582339139
we're getting 6 new heroes and remodels thougheverbeit
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>>582339313
I feel like we're getting 1-2 new heroes and remodels.
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>>582339292
You never played Silver in your life lol
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>>582336709
>I'll just have to concede on that one I guess.
It's not an argument anon, we're just discussing our favourite undead queen, I'm happy to have benefited you so that you may have more fun games with more variable builds
>Didn't know about it also applying to the Ghouls from her 2 though. That's news to me.
Yeah just don't tell the retards down in brick, they'd get it removed though i trust in yoshi's laziness, also it's that OP so it should be fine imo
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>165mb patch
>literally zero fucking patch notes

thanks valve, very cool
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ITS OUT
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>>582339565
5mb to add the laser eyes. 160mb to make Ivy's ass fatter.
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>>582339139
Celeste remodel, cup size buff and laser tattoo removal
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CHUDLING BROS WE EATING GOOD
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>>582339139
I want both, and i want a rich giest waifu who will allow me to NEET it up all day without worrying about bills and fixing my car
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>>582338478
the only "liberty" you have is to give your paedophile president all your money whilst he completely fucks up your economy for the sake of Israel
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Early next week means Friday in Valve time. Also it might get delay at the last minute because it's Valve.
Kind of hilarious how many people here don't know how Valve works
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>Update
WHERE IS IT YOSHI
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>>582325406
Vindicta
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!!!SLORK ALERT!!!
SLORK IS LESS THAN 72 HOURS AWAY FROM YOUR LOCATION. BE PREPARED. THERE IS NO SALVATION.
!!!SLORK ALERT!!!
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>>582339813
I haven't given him any money idk what you're talking about
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>>582339721
the sex room
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>>582339628
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>>582340169
we did nothing? jeffery epstein didnt kill himself tho. Donny T ordered the hit himself.
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>2 games in a row where I get a good early lead and my team feeds it away faster than I can do anything with it
Tempo meta is a fucking meme
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>>582339960
Too blue, therfore she's disqualified just like abrams, only green(giest, graves) purple(wraith) and orange(haze, holliday) heroes are allowed
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thought about what mina would do in solo lanes and i almost threw up
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>>582340491
Yeah Mina... touch those minions. Yeah... like that. Press your 1 you awful little vampire...
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>>582340365
>team keeps killing everyone but never goes for walkers
>balls up on blue and just kills things doesnt push
>their carries are farming the other waves while you're stuck lane jannying
>5 minutes later...
>start losing
>team blames you because you were 'farming for le next game' instead of jumping into their stupoid moshpit
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>>582340490
fairfax was monke like shiv?! also why is that frog biting his dick
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>>582325638
This is a Silver general
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>>582340490
Also a change? I pass by this statue every game but I never actually registered its appearance.
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>>582340641
>silver stands for second place
Can't be, this thread is for winners like holliday
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wow paige seven celeste on the other team I wonder who's winning
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are these new map assets? because i don't pay enough attention to how the map looks to know
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>>582340490
>Pocket has case full of frogs
>Walker Fairfax statue is FROGGED
What is the significance of the frog
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>>582339721
Why is Rem's hideyhole full of glowing autumn leaves
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>>582340961
no
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>>582341010
new hero is a support foxgirl with an autumn theme
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Quite a lot of small art updates in that last patch.
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>>582340707
Cool aesthetics, hope they add even more occult/estoric shit on the map.
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>>582340910
>>582341136
what do the owls mean
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>>582340910
Now you're just taking pics of random shit. Nothing's changed here.
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>You can still stand on one of the shock rooftops without getting zapped
Welp. Guess we know what wasn't fixed
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>>582341304
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GUYS CHECK THE BANK
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>>582341365
dis old mang
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>>582341290
GT sweep
but generally they are considered guardians/protectors in some cultures
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There's a Boat on York
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what's the fucking point of updating 20% of the map assets here and there before the patch?
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Silver should have big tits.

Lady Geist should have bigger tits.

The upcoming female frontliner should have even bigger tits
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>>582341492
build hype and prep assets probably
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>>582340641
Silver's only liked by trannies and spiritually and physically raped beta males
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>>582340490
homeboys gettin it
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Is it time for more mystery niggas already?
Felt like the last vote was yesterday
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>>582340880
>posting the fake one
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>>582341290
>>582341423
(((((The Myth: Conspiracy theorists conflated the Bohemian Grove Minerva owl totem with descriptions of ancient Canaanite tophet altars, claiming that powerful politicians and business leaders were secretly worshiping Moloch and engaging in occult rituals.)))))
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>>582341492
make me wonder what they just ship and what they intentionally keep for a major update, and what's left to finish the major update
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>>582340490
Damn Walter was a freak
Got a frog on his dick immortalized in bronze.
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>>582341605
LOL you newfag outed yourself
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>>582341912
You're literally a 2016 tourist.
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>red eye lasers
He is about to say nigger
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Lighting feels different too.
It looks more like an evening with warmer orange tint. More point lights on map in general.
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>>582341136
all of this shit was already there you mong
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>>582341290
considered symbols of wisdom in some cultures
>>582341492
to calm the rioting masses by giving sloptubers stuff to "deconstruct and analyze for lore implications" while we wait for the main patch
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>>582341808
so... gray talons tuff?
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>>582341614
>Pockets real Mom
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>>582341995
Guys its been too long to play the oldfag card anymore which you would know if you werent newfags
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>>582341290
Owls are knowledge-pilled.
The Greek Goddess of Wisdom Athena is represented by an Owl.
They also know esoteric occult stuff and hang out in Bohemian grove with child molesters.
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>>582342027
It immediately stands out to me, the sign glow and the street lights radiate volumetrics
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update?
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>>582340880
I not into yuri, but this ship I approve
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i like this one doomtranny replying to everyone saying this stuff was already there, it's almost cute
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>>582342262
tbf its gonna be really bleak when you guys realize half the update is just risk of rain 3
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>>582342192
>>582342027
they did change the lighting
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>>582342456
I love risk of rain. I modded goku into mine. I'd love to see RoR3 for free.
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>sunday is real
>>
>map you played 5 minutes no longer exists
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>>582341290
https://youtu.be/mbi7rq-TSk8
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There's a small spot where can see through the edge of the map next to the Archmother's side camp on Yellow
Unplayable
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>>582342456
Joke's is on you, once it's out I'm NEVER touching any other game modes again.
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>>582342478
>>582342027
oh fuck oh fuck the map is gonna look so sick with the update @ sunset
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is this demon looking guy new? don't remember seeing him before
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>pve mode takes place during the night and your peace time is during the day
placing my bets
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i just hope the performance is gonna get better you shouldn't need a 7800x3d cpu for this
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>>582343097
They could just be adding a day night cycle like in dota.
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so they scrapped the ''item rework'' update?
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>>582343060
during the day every vampire faggot has to hid in buildings
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will we finally see the map updated?
>>582343060
theyve been moving him around i think
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>>582343291
I ate it
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>>582343060
no but he may have gotten textures or changes. looks a little different.
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>>582343291
they scrapped everything, there will probably be two heroes at most with some map changes and maybe a few remodels. everyone here saying they're excited for the ror3 mode are delusional
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>>582343291
the content update is so big in scope that they had to delay the item update to later

yoshi's own words
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>>582343363
meant for >>582343261
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>>582343364
>Old Midboss textured
Another reason why we NEED four lanes back.
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>>582343395
you bastard!
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>>582343364
i want this

i want the map to have 300 new york 1920's noir skyscrapers in the background and for there to be chtulhu occultic grotesque gargoyle monsters at the top of them moving around
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>>582343261
>timing ganks based around nighttime as Mina/Drifter/Venator
L U D O
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>>582343364
>>
I swear to god a good percentage of the playerbase got too used to dying early with no consequences because after the comeback changes there's always someone going 1/10 in my fucking games. Now that they're actually punished for brooling in lane these games are unsalvageable
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>>582343702
they need more map story telling objects that scream DO NOT BE OUTSIDE THIS IS A RITUAL FOR AN OCCULT GOD
those monsters would fit in nicely
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>>582344203
ummm that's not very wholesome chungus
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How come I come back after months and celeste is still a broken piece of shit?
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>>582344560
she's a dev nepo baby
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>>582344743
but enough about Ivy
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We are getting some phat phucking milkers on Wednesday. Gonna be well worth the wait.
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>>582344786
I thought you meant silver
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>>582344812
CADENCE IS FUCKING IN

I REPEAT

CADENCE COMES OUT ON TUESDAY

THICK SEXY DOMMY MOMMY CADENCE RELEASES ON TUESDAY
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>>582337139
I really hope they don't give her a cobra head
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>>582345086
But what about some perky sniddies?
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Do you guys think we'll hit 200k players this update or is that too big.
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>>582344880
They genuinely cannot decide if they want Silver busted or terrible
Ivy has always been good, Celeste has always been busted
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>>582337139
Finish Warden
Keep Yamato's head, I don't care what else happens to her design
Revert Ivy
Make Paige invisible and reduce the volume of her lines by 100% and also remove her icon from the hero selection
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Its crazy that we will never get any actual funny goofy items because people bitched about majestic leap to much.
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>>582345181
Not unless they go open beta
Hitting 200k in an invite only alpha is unreasonable
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>>582345308
CHADgic GODpet is right there though????
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>>582345181
That's not going to happen unless they also make it an open beta on Tuesday
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>>582345375
If carpet was a 3200 I'd build it unironically.
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>>582345428
everyone would, hence why it isn't 3200
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>>582345465
but because it's 6400 nobody really buys it
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>>582345465
they should add 2400 and 4800 items ngl
and give unstoppable a negative damage debuff
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>>582345758
The 3200 and 6400s with components are your 2400 and 4800s. And nah just BKB it. It gets shorter each use.
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>>582345758
>give unstoppable spirit resistance*
ftfy
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>>582345308
literally who gives a fuck about that item, its been in the game since launch
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remove the soft cap on resistances
let me buy all the greens and have like 80% spirit resist
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>>582346029
>soft cap on resistances
overwatch player-kun...
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>Russian retards as teammates
>Lose
>Russian retards as teammates
>Lose
>Russian retards as teammates
>Lose
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>>582346320
>Euro
Deserved.
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>>582346320
russians are alright people and good teammates
>>
They can release as many map updates or new items or new heroes as they want I'm not playing until they unfuck comeback mechanics so the later 30 minutes of a match have an actual reason to exist
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>>582346508
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>>582346320
>subhuman europoor
lel

>>582346537
Just play better in the early game so it's actually even instead of mindlessly perma brooling in lane and making the game into a shitstomp by dying 10 times :^)
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>>582346320
Shameful toxic rat king
>>582346508
Based wholesome ivy
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>>582346320
I don't like playing with you either. But you'll have to accept that the European Deadlock player base is so small that without us you wouldn't be able to play the game at all. If you don't like something, you can go play Call of Duty or whatever else you guys play.
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>>582346670
>Just play better in the early game
Yeah I'll be sure to tell my carry who's going 0 and 8 on the other side of the map that
Thanks
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>>582346320
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>>582332520
I used to queue random to practice characters and mostly to unwind, but now I stopped because it's obvious the majority of people playing Brool aren't using it as a relaxing mode or as a practice mode (you always see the same characters).
Of course when I say I stopped, I don't mean I stopped picking random. I just stopped playing this dogshit mode.

People who say PvE mode will end up like Brool are too pessimistic, PvE won't have the same problem of putting together different audiences. Of course if the mode releases half-baked/heavily WIP then it will die quickly until next content update.
>>
What's the deal with Valve games and slavs anyway?
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>>582347254
Most of them are free and run on potatoes
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>>582347462
ah
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>>582347462
Volvo could drastically increase the quality of their games by charging for them.
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>>582347254
>>582347462
They also have real money economies that the Slavs can turn into side hustles
American dollars go a lot further in other parts of the world
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>map gets get darker and darker as the match goes on until its night time around 30 minutes
would b so kino
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>>582347659
There's more (potential) money to be made with F2P games
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>>582346014
Look at its full update history
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>>582347659
based rabbi
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dispel should be a tier four item
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>>582347993
little boy that's divine barrier
>>
heads up
they added the framework for hero voting
back into the hideout for today's patch
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>>582347254
CS and Dota 1 (as well as Warcraft 3) were already popular back in the days of gaming cafes. Its dominance has only grown as Steam has become a larger and more user-friendly service. Basically, it's just a different culture. Instead of Call of Duty and other popular games you're used to, people here prefer Valve games, old Fallout titles, RTS games, and other games that you might call unpopular in the west. It's like in Asia, a completely different culture and over there they play their own Korean MMOs and other crap.
>>582347462
That's such a strange argument, considering that Witcher 3 is one of the most popular games here, and you'd have a hard time finding anyone who hasn't played it.
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>>582334371
I sometimes forget that Americans start counting weeks from Sunday.
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>>582348130
SLORK SWEEP
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You will be voting for the BIPOC hero that everyone will gaslight you into voting for otherwise you're a racist chud right?
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>>582348130
I'm voting for the PeepeePoopoo Man
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>>582348160
look at any calendar
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>>582348130
Streetbroooool time
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>>582348346
Calendars in my country have weeks start on Sunday, an no one ever orders calendars from across the ocean.
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>hero voting

Wake me up when everyone is out.
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i'm afraid that one of these days my gameplay will be posted to this very general with the caption "your teammate for the evening, sir"
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>>582348130
>another 6 weeks for the update to be fully out
Wonderful
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>>582348130
A groodge on every player who votes against my chosen hero.
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>>582348575
Thats why you post your own awful stats before they do
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>>582348606
Can we get a skeleton with a huge hat or is that seven already?
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>>582348424
>mina
>sloppy kissing

this makes my penis become the long penis
thank you anonymous
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>>582348130
there is no way they're doing this shit again this late into the game
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>Today there will be a raping...
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>>582349015
does this anon know?
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>>582348130
HAHAHAHA FUCK YOU NIGGERS WHO KEPT INSISTING THERE WERE NO NEW HEROES
STUPID RETARDS
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>>582348915
He was right btw. Some of the best Hentai I've seen.
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>>582349131
it's actually a vote for the next heroes that will release in a year
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>>582348130
with a new world suffix
what could it mean?
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>>582349102
i sadly know..
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Magical Sandman
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>>582349336
all-ixian squad baby!
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>>582348130
Hero voting is an artificial way to get community engagement
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>>582348290
>gaslight
You're one of them
Go back
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>>582349512
You just know that skins like this will eventually ruin the art style and you will never see the default Haze ever again.
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I refuse to believe Silver wasn't the character first voted in last time.
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>>582349812
Yuritroons don't play the game
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>>582349701
Election posting is fun.
Keep on Slorking
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>>582348130
Lets all not vote on it and say they can only get our votes if they join our secret server.
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>>582348594
Based, no one gets to grief ranked games with the new heroes all at once.
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>>582349812
I wanted silver but I didnt play because Silver wasn't in the game yet.
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>>582349812
Furfags are just a loud vocal minority much like niggers.
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>>582349512
>>582349779
I'm looking forward to ballet Haze
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>>582349812
total chungus furry mascot victory
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>>582350170
didn't rem get first place?
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>>582345004
I don't get it, isn't Boho supposed to be the singer hero?
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>>582350319
no, Boho is a witch, Cadence is the singer
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>>582350249
That was because actual w*mem found him cute.
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>>582347462
>run on potatoes
not even really true anymore, especially for deadlock. im on a fairly low end system (5050) but still more powerful than what most slavs are running and i have to run the game on low-medium with dlss or else i run out of vram and drop to 25fps
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>>582350319
Boho is dead
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>>582350505
women don't play rem, I usually see them on women heroes or drifter (lol) and apollo
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Rate the Gun Graves build.
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Bebop's hook just being a better Holliday ult is so crazy to me and how its still just the devs are just fine with it
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>>582350741
you dont have to play a hero to like their design
and no, most foids play paige and graves
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>>582350741
Lots of biological women play rem. Thats partially why his win rate is so bad.
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>>582350742
3/10
Rat tier
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>>582350742
Reported
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>>582350907
It's funny how Hook characters are AIDS in literally every game and devs keep putting Hook characters in their games for some reason
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>>582351054
>>582351064
>doesn't elaborate
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>>582351107
they are fun, theres a reason bebop has a 50%+ global pickrate because hes F U N
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>>582347254
valve's biggest fanboys are americans and russians
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>>582351226
graves has a terrible gun
building around it is trolling, no matter how much I wish it wasn't
there, elaborated
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>>582350741
>or drifter (lol)
The one foid I know that plays this game is a Drifter one trick who also draws fanart of him naked on bodypillows
Yes she's fat
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>>582351439
Yet these threads are always populated with humorless euros
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>>582351107
Hook characters are necessary in MOBAs to rape hypercarries into submission
I have no idea why Valve gave Bebop an infinitely stacking spirit nuke, however.
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>>582351621
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the old match countdown music was so much better.
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no one cares about other mobas. /dlg/ belongs to hero shooterGODS
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Post hero predictions, since we basically know fucking nothing this time around.

>Cadence is finally a thing
>Team Economy Character, maybe it's the Cheshire thing but I really fucking hope not
>A Third Vampire has hit the Deadlock
>Bigfoot
>Another character can natively enter subway tunnels, no idea what. How about it's just David the Gnome?
>The Return of Slork
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>>582352391
boho or bust
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gonna beat off to celebrate a new patch coming
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just got out of a game with a venator that lost lane (he went 0/4) or something and he had a full blown melty in VC, never seen that before. he definitely browses here or /b/ though
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>Artifact, The Dota Card Game
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>>582352391
Usherette to drain my balls
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The statues near base now kill your ass. How did no one mention this?
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>>582352685
It was good. They just made the mistake of announcing it during the biggest dota tournament of the year.
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boho my balls
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>>582352391
I still just want a US Marine who served in Ixia
I want him to have dialogue with Apollo agreeing that the US should pull out of Ixia and dialogue with Vindicta confronting her about killing Friends of Humanity only further galvanizing the movement
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>>582352391
all in on a cute support foxgirl
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>>582352979
Shut up
He should call Apollo a nigxian and call Infernus "one of the good ones"
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How long do you have to not play the game for your EOMM to reset?
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>>582353152
A month or two.
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>>582352979
kek keep it up autist
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>>582350742
Remove Cultist
Remove Intensifying Mag
Remove Slowing/Weighted
Replace Vamp with Leech
Remove Lucky shot
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>>582352391
BIG Ixian woman will get all my votes
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>>582353152
Two weeks.
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>>582352995
Lick tummy
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>things confirmed for next update
map fluff (things already changed probably just a teaser)
new characters
>mostly confirmed
PvE mode (datamined)
hideout changes
>not confirmed but possible
several remodels
megacreep/rift creep models
more UI polish
>NOT featured
item major update/rework
hoodwink
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>>582353137
Fuck off faggot
Characters being salt of the earth and reasonable is interesting in a fantasy world
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Deadlock needs a stereotypical grey ayy lmao that no one takes seriously
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>>582350549
Is she? There's so much stuff that they've already, for instance, recorded audio for. This beta development cycle must be hellish.
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>>582352391
A true Heal Slut Gilf with a raspy voice
Venatress
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>>582353361
infernus bar was datamined as well complete with models like a pool table and whatnot and that was a couple of months ago
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Matchmaking got owrse theres no way it ididnt
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>>582353628
Was this before or after the fake leaks were revealed?
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>>582353539
Venatrix**
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>>582353437
I don't think any hero is truly dead forever, but she was scrapped before the last batch of heroes was released.
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>>582352391
Chinese railroad miner explosive expert.
>"Bossman says blow up rock for tunnel, and I do that. But what bossman don't know is it don't take two crates of dynamite for that. Bossman get to find out how much dynamite it take to blow up office, though."
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>>582352391
I too need an ixian woman.
Also, can't some of the potential heroes be inferred from the voice files? Poltergeist, succubus, incubus, druid, fortuna, graf, skyrunner, swan, boho?
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>>582353636
Matchmaking got better, they just recruited a bunch of discord trannies to fill out brick and stone tier.
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Everything in the update is sloppy seconds and designed to appeal to an echo chamber of a select few retards
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>>582353432
herro
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>>582354157
Honestly, I forgot how she originally looked because I've modded her since I first started playing the game.
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>>582353793
The Boss is totally gone
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>one of my team's lanes goes horribly wrong and feeds the enemy a million souls
>see who was responsible
>express shot shiv with 12 deaths
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no... don't take my ivy skin away from me...
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gonna be sad when they add new heroes and i can't type selecthero hero_boho in the console to run around as a floating error sign anymore
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Give me a Mexican bandito gunslinger with the RE4 shooting challenge music as a theme song
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>>582354051
this doompost would be more effective after the update releases and it turns out it's underwhelming
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>>582350742
>"hello yes I would like to lose every match until I'm in brick mmr"
>"what do you mean porn lowers IQ?"
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>>582354491
hmmmmm no
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>>582354491
this can be the Muerta port
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>>582350742
why tesla bullets when attack speed isn't that high on graves

why is every defensive situational expensive as shit

why literally no gap closer that doubles as movespeed escape
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>>582350742
Brick/10
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>>582352685
>was practicing mongolian throat singing during the development of Half Life 2
>has 800 knives
>lead the windows port of the original Doom
>Brony
>goes out of his way to bitch about realism in games
Weird guy that Gabe, glad he’s in charge still but I wish he’d put belt to ass some more in their development, this “lets hire a army of 150iq people and let them fuck about all day” thing let’s them develop some cool stuff but goddamn that wait time has been joked about for over a decade now
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>>582355198
I doubt gabe cares about whatever shit game valve is developing now, all the money comes from the store and 2 mods they bought
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>>582352391
Boho
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>>582355198
we should be lucky he's elon musk but not annoying
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>>582355198
the laxness is unironicly why it's so good though. deadlines just give you slop.
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Why is mystic slow not allowed to be good?
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>>582350742
>Cultists
Just buy monster rounds, sell late game
>intensifying mag
Replace it with stamina mastery or kinetic dash, maybe even both
>spiritual overflow and merc mag
replace them with some of the situational stuff like silencer(extremely broken) inhibitor or even spell slinger. i would even advice you to get silencer right after ricochet
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>>582353152
unironically just do a street brawl after you win a game, the EOMM agents will be sent there and you can keep winning in standard
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>>582355714
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>>582354865
>why tesla bullets when attack speed isn't that high on graves
nta but it's good on graves, generally it's THE gun item for characters with bad guns
>why is every defensive situational expensive as shit
Probably cause late game
>why literally no gap closer that doubles as movespeed escape
Phantom strike, though i agree he needs stamina mastery
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>>582355621
Early BioWare used to drop gems when they got less than a year of dev time allotted to them but I get you, just kinda sucks sometimes to get something cool from valve every 5~10 years
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>kelvin can contain seven ult
KINO
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>>582355919
I can't justify the tesla bullets when he has no green or purple items except bullet lifesteal. I don't like Grave's whole kit being "let the enemy team walk into your minefield definitely not discount techies", but he needs something for when he gets jumped
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>>582355987
that just old game cycles, games rarely took more than 2 years before 8th gen
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okay do you just play this game only when your timezone comes back from work? if you try and play during NEET hours then someone is guaranteed to have a meltdown every game
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>>582355464
>give Gabe a trillion dollars
>buys more knives
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>>582356343
never play on weekends
all the dadgamers come out to play
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>>582356257
>I can't justify the tesla bullets when he has no green or purple items except bullet lifesteal.
As for purple i don't think scaling is the point of tesla, you just want it since it's free objective(as in, not subjective) damage that doesn't scale with dogshit guns like ivy's and graves's.
As for the greens as i said, i agree
>I don't like Grave's whole kit being "let the enemy team walk into your minefield definitely not discount techies", but he needs something for when he gets jumped
Yeah i agree
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>>582355621
They've been lax about Counter Strike's anti-cheat for over a decade.
Probably not a good thing.
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why the fuck do people say mm has "always" been bad. before the update i had 54% wr climbing to phantom and after i have 40% wr in BOTH MODES
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>>582356319
Christ I forgot how bloated and terrible game development has gotten, my bad.
Reminds me, was watching a interview with someone that had to deal with a AAA game companies legal team and every single food item like cans of pop or chips for example has to be screened worldwide for a month (or more if it’s a niche food) incase it vaguely seems similar to a existing product in any country
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if you only start playing yamato after they give her a sexy redesign you're a fake fan
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>>582357467
I'll start playing Yamato after they give her a kit that isn't retarded
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>>582351496
You say that like as if she has any overtly GOOD options regardless. Her Spirit build sucks cause random AoE spam kills her ghouls before they touch anyone in a fight and skulls are countered by a single light melee. She has literally nothing to support with so either way you're going a sub-par route by playing Graves. And unless you're some cracked out adderall abusing aimlab grinding 15 year old you'll do worse on regular gun carries anyway. So give other input other than "hurrdurr it's not meta"-- like no shit, playing Graves in general is "not-meta".

>>582353271
>remove a farm-accelerating item on a hero with middle-of-the-line farm speed at best that you can just sell later
Sounds like a bad idea to me chief.
>remove Intensifying Mag
Elaborate why.
>remove Slowing/Weighted
And never kill anyone cause they can just run away from you super easily? You must be slow in the head. It's literally the only thing keeping you in range of people most of the time. The slow on the Dead Heads definitely won't, enemy just has to light melee once and they're gone.
>use the Lifesteal item that is so bad literally no one builds it anymore other than maybe 3-spamming Ballistic Enhancement Seven
Okay now I know for sure you're trolling me.
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>>582351107
hook characters are the epitome of balanced: Dodge the hook you fucking shitter
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>>582354865
>10 "bullets" per second "isn't that high of attack speed"
You have to be joking
>no gap closer + escape
Warp Stone is literally right there.
>why is every situational defensive so expensive
Cause unless you're bad-- or playing in an MMR range where playing Graves *at all* is straight up throwing-- the enemy isn't doing enough damage to need defensives until later in the game and all the actually good ones that will actually keep you alive at that point are all expensive, unsurprisingly.
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Praying for absolutely ZERO Sinclair changes next patch... not even bug fixes.
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>>582357723
retard
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>>582357923
>muh balance
Fuck off, retard
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>>582350742
The #1 Graves spammer was playing this before the Spirit Overflow nerf, it worked pretty good for me back then but I haven't tried it since the nerf.
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>>582356676
I doubt they can if they haven't bothered.
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>>582336005
No... our campaigning worked vro... you DID post in the forums, where they actually listen, right?
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These stupid shivs all trying this stupid build are literal free elo if they're on the enemy team I hope they never nerf it
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An ideal team comp would be 3 people that can just endlessly threaten enemy walker while having good escapes, and 3 rapists.
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>>582358080
>boundless
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>>582358293
Why do people fall for meme builds that unironically tell you to build glass cannon?
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>>582352391
Bring back Raven
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>>582357723
intesifying mag and other +% weapon damage are terrible on Graves because +100% of 0 is still 0, you are just pissing away your money buying them
you want to fireratemaxx and get all the proc items, like tesla, toxic, siphon bullets, mercurial, inhibitor, silencer etc and top it off with rico to spread all that aids
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where patch?
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>>582351621
I'd rather continue the anti carry philosophy of mo and krill design than the bullshit of 10 sec 60m hooks actually
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>>582358080
>"everyone gets away from you and just kites you out or out damages you unless your team is full of stun ultbots" the build
Yeah it looks tankier but you aren't a threat with that shit. Skulls just get insta-removed and in turn don't apply their 2 AP slow and Stamina Mastery alone isn't gonna keep you glued to anyone that has better movement than a bot.
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>>582358363
I mean the guy was maintaining like a 60% win rate with it in Ascendant/Eternus, so clearly something's working
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is this the most optimized crosshair
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>>582357723

I’m too tired to listen to all the reasons for all the items but int mag is bad because it’s scaling her base dmg which is poor, better to go the attack speed/shred route
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>>582358476
Read the thread retard. Yoshi said early next week. Could be Monday for first round of voting, so new hero is out mid week.
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>>582357990
Sorry if you enjoy his current version but he is obviously getting reworked considering he hasn't been touched by patches in a while and he is one of the least picked heros due to his kit not being all that appealing.
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>>582357609
elaborate
>>582357723
>You say that like as if she has any overtly GOOD options regardless.
You're right but at the very least spirit works if the enemy team is full of gun cucks, gun is just bad all across the board
>And unless you're some cracked out adderall abusing aimlab grinding 15 year old you'll do worse on regular gun carries anyway.
False
>So give other input other than "hurrdurr it's not meta"-- like no shit, playing Graves in general is "not-meta".
Nta but i did, the build has 0 mobility on the hero with the worst gun range and mobility in the game, you're not shooting/killing/ or running away from anyone with that build
>Sounds like a bad idea to me chief.
nta either(again) but cultist is not worth it, stick with monster rounds and don't afk farm either way
>remove Intensifying Mag
Cause it's shit desu. Instead use the money and slot to buy stamina mastery or kinetic dash, or both, also split shot and active reload are good options for farming and are better then intensifying mag
>>remove Slowing/Weighted
Nah this one i disagree with that anon, you NEED slowing, tho weighted is situational since it will slow you down especially if you're adamant about not buying stamina
>leech or vampiric
Both are good imo, so I'm indifferent
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>>582358405
Because these people unironically no insults here have no actual thought I guarantee this guy has played every single hero that's been meta before this I guarantee he was playing Spiritual Overflow Warden he cannot fundamentally think outside of "Must...play...FOTM...build...win..." also another guarantee he doesnt know what half of his items does he just buys it because they're in the build
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>>582358643
Mercurial proc gives Attack Speed and an instant reload thobeit.
>int mag is bad cause of her low base damage
So like what? Go Active Reload instead for better in-combat reload speeds and for the fire rate + max ammo boost for the same price? Cause I already go Swift Striker.
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>>582358924
>Mercurial proc gives Attack Speed
irrelevant
>and an instant reload thobeit.
Just stick with quicksilver, or better yet active reload
>So like what? Go Active Reload instead for better in-combat reload speeds and for the fire rate + max ammo boost for the same price?
Yes
>Cause I already go Swift Striker.
Swift striker is a meme on graves, don't buy items you don't need since every soul counts for a gun graves game
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>0/8 Vyper first 10 minutes of ranked
If this update doesn't fix matchmaking I hope Yoshi gets run over by a car
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>>582359662
its going to make it worse anon they're probably going to hard nerf all the stupid get out of jail free card mobility tools and movement which means shitters wont be able to do shit for free and fly away anymore
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Tranny!
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Just played against a Graves that made pushing any lane she was in literally impossible, I felt like I was playing PVZ
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>>582359915
Where's echo shard?
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>>582358738
Well someone else's input on int mag has me considering Active Reload already as an early game replacement so I can probably just drop Cultist early on too with that.
>weighted is situational since it will slow you down
So just leave Slowing Bullets un-upgraded?

>>582359223
If I am buying Quicksilver I may as well EVENTUALLY upgrade it since there's no drawback for doing so compared to Weighted if everything else is already bought or if I need more attack speed AND the instant reload later on. Mercurial also has no timing requirement in the late game, which is hard to keep track of when shit is just exploding around you at said point in the game.

I'm thinking it comes down to preference between either keeping Active Reload for the entire game or if you go Quicksilver and keep it the whole game and then upgrade it into Mercurial to do away with the timing requirement of AR, more attack speed, than Quicksilver, the same amount of +max ammo as AR so you're not losing any max ammo upon selling AR for Merc, and the on-hit spirit damage is just a side benefit at that point. You're only doing like ~15 gun damage per hit, an extra +5-6 of spirit damage can't be THAT bad since it's 13+ attacks per second.
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>>582359791
he didn't actually say that, you just attached an image of him to you saying that!
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>>582359915
>Just played against a Graves that made pushing any lane she was in literally impossible, I felt like I was playing PVZ
It is impossible if your team/hero has no aoe slop.....in which case it's a skill issue cause at that poin you're supposed to rush monster rounds into ricochet.
This is the same thing as retards crying about apollo/vindicta/seven/infernus without buying slowing hex/anvil/phantom/cleanse magic
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Will we get a loli as one of the new characters?
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Silver is one of the most honest characters in the game right now.
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>>582360369
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abrams is the most honest character in the game right now
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>>582356604
1. it's friday
2. it's not the dadgamers, it's the NEETs who start melting. a dadgamer physically cannot get that angry until he gets divorced
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>>582357723
You want me to elaborate when Graves already steals people's gun damage.
>remove Intensifying Mag
Yes, Mystic Shot would be 10x better to have fill this slot than I.Mag.
>remove Slowing/Weighted
Slowing hex does the job paired with enduring speed you're fast enough to keep up or if you're that worried about people moving away. Build Stamina Mastery and IAD towards them which consumes no bullets btw.
>use the Lifesteal item that is so bad
It synergizes pretty well with her kit are you high or a retard, maybe both?
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>>582360503
dadgamers suck, they make the quality of the games lower, which causes the neet to explode
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I just played against an apollo and felt like I was chewing glass the entire match. I felt like I was just getting poked to hell and back and no way to punish his poke.
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>>582360718
the slow hexing
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>>582360672
Im the dadgamer (forma de incel) and my neet friend is the one being retarded and making me explode thoughbeit
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>>582360794
exception to the rule thoughever
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>>582359915
This is the real Graves build.
Playing gun Graves is basically like playing gun Rem.
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Dragged into a 50 minute game and my yamato is limit testing into 3 characters at 5k hp with no refresher or infuser or anything
They die, we instantly lose midboss and the base explodes afterwards
why the fuck do I play this game it is literal cock and ball torture
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im legit playing with bots
its so insane how terrible people are
no one knows how to counter buy
slowing hex might as well be deleted from the game
fucking support cuck bot and you still cant buy the best active in the game against mina, infernus, calico, kelvin, mo
even a fucking knockdown would bonk kelvin and mo out of their 2
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>>582361009
Gun Rem is unironically infinitely worse than even Gun Graves

t. has played both
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>>582360157
>So just leave Slowing Bullets un-upgraded?
Im just telling you to keep that in mind so you don't get fucked by being unable to move, if you're buying it you need to buy stamina mastery otherwise you'll be too heavy and slow, you'd figure it out if you played a few games though feel free to ignore me if you do well in such practice runs. alternatively, something i used to do was build close quarters since it does the same thing without the nerfs to movment speed
>no timing requirement in the late game
In that case you can buy spellslinger for the same price, it does the job better, or Titanic mag for early game which also fixes the problem while being cheaper
>can't be THAT bad
GunGraves overdose as a whole *is* in fact THAT bad compared to other gun carries, gun haze destroys gun graves any day of the week easily so yeah, the damage numbers are bad unfortunately, but, if you're having fun then who cares, since that's all that matters at the end of the day.
When you edit your build after some games and test runs just remember to make some budget cuts if the build is too costly, also remember to get your 4.8k spikes
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>>582356834
>luckbooster seething that he no longer gets a free ride
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>>582361067
>no refresher or infuser or anything
neither of those are needed on yamato
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at what rank do teams stop hard focusing rifts? i’m an unranked shitter but just got out of a game where i solo killed 2 walkers for free because of them
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>>582360497
>abused retarded melee netcode to hit you from 8 feet away
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>>582361669
The rift was more valuable than either of those walkers
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I have no clue what the character batch might have and it’s exciting. 10000 leaker executions.
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>>582361876
they lost the rifts because my bebop got fed in land though
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>>582361951
kill all leakers
kill all dataminers
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>>582360564
I contemplated the idea of going Mystic Shot desu. Honestly might try it, but Vamp Burst is still better in the late game than Leech in my experience when you have to fight multiple people by yourself cause everyone is so fucking horny to dive all the fucking time.

>>582361315
>spellslinger
Yeah but you have to actually build it up.
>4.8k spikes
Plus I also get Merc for that. Makes the skulls more chunky when I throw them on top of someone I am already fighting and people in my brick-elo games panic and don't just instantly melee them cause they suddenly took a burst of damage from 6 skulls and are still getting shredded by my beam. People in normie games freak out over the slightest things and their brains just shut off. Average Celeste player is used to never getting hit by bullets by constantly jumping around their target with her innate movement and freak out when the enemy just never stops damaging them and starts out-damaging them due to quite literally never missing. But I will keep some of what was said in mind and see what I can change without giving up the things I feel aren't really negotiable based on how things go in my usual games. Like for example I might just drop Lucky Shot for Escalating Resilience so that I still get +max ammo but also Bullet Resist and since it's cheaper. Gonna just leave Slowing un-upgraded to keep all my movespeed and MAYBE see if I can fit Stamina in SOMEWHERE.
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>>582359915
This is how I play graves except either mystic reverb or spirit burn over EE, and get echo shard. Carpet gets fun too for both the duration and split pushing. Just drop ult and fly away.
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>>582362035
this
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>>582362035
Fuck off, Edmund
Go fix Mewgenics' late game
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>>582353432
I was thinking about that the other day, I think a little green/gray man would be great. Crash landed, using patrons to repair his flying saucer, keeping it away from characters like McGinnis, Dynamo and Paradox. Absolutely neutral to violence because humans to him are like rats to us.
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>>582361097
slowing is a trap item because they'll just dispel it its best to just use Phantom Strike
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>>582361549
versus what exactly
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I have 111 games on Graves with 75 wins this is my most used build the past couple months and in a sec I'll post my more recent condensed one with diviners
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We need a
Taxi Hero
Baseball Hero
Fat Guy (Dynamo doesn't count)
Witch
Sewer Animal be it Alligator or Rat
Generic Soldier Guy
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>>582362717
>generic SPIRIT Graves build
We weren't talking about this.
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>>582362717
Both cropped because every time I post builds here someone whines that I have half the store in different optional categories.
I will add, you should buy spirit resistance most games.
First build is slower and more brawl-y, 2nd is entirely ult spam and 6400 rush.
>>582362887
Its the best way to play her rn.
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YOSHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

GIVE ME A SEXY FOX GIRL SUPPORT AND I WILL TAKE BACK EVERY SINGLE VILE WORD I SAID ABOUT THIS GAME!
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>>582361152
I disagree, gun rem is stronger but it's only due to his farming capability allowing him to P2W and his gun being at least viable, his skills are also not irrelevant
>>582361009
>*the* real
Nah, it has too many useless items, needs more greens and needs mr early gane
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>>582352391
David Blaine
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Hi, I've never played a MOBA before and the only hero shooter I played was Quake Champions.
Why the FUCK do MOBA games have 100+ characters
Why the FUCK do hero shooters have 50+ characters
How the FUCK is Valve gonna balance this game if they go down the same path?
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>>582363180
They won't
In fact, they already aren't!
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The most important part of building graves is having 2 movement options imo. You NEED to be able to run away and stick to people. 1 stam item + either a 2nd stam item or warp stone, or maybe carpet if purely split pushing.
>>582362984
Wrong. Hot oni girl that applies drunk debuffs. Fucks with your aim and movement direction.
>>582363108
Gun rem has like a single 5 minute window when he has absurdly more farm than should be possible and he's actually mildly scary. Every other part of the game he's an active throw.
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>>582362118
>Yeah but you have to actually build it up.
It lasts a long time and active items count towards "building" it up. It's underrated imo, used to run it on venator in his case him having infinite traps helps
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>>582363180
valve finds a way and people will still whine about a character when an item gets a minor buff and suddenly a specific build on a singular character is giga broken ten years after release.
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Im gonna try playing Dota 2
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>>582363180
Fun
With more characters, you get more varied situations and matchups, and the game becomes more replayable
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>>582362984
>sexy girl support
LITERALLY Paige
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>>582363180
they won't and this game has been dogshit unplayable garbage since at least the march 6th? patch
all modern live service games are fucking terrible garbage where it's just a revolving door of "this group of characters are boken as fuck for the next 3-6 months" then "oh those characters are useless now, these characters are now the best" and "oh and that random character you played got a massive nerf into being useless because we nerfed items they used because a broken character we also nerfed used them too so pick a new character" etc. etc. etc.

LIVE SERVICE GAMES ARE A JOKE
MODERN FPS IS A JOKE
ANYONE WHO PLAYS THIS GARBAGE IS CATTLE
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Isn't gun graves just about being a debuff bot? Why are you trying to carry.
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>>582362984
Cute and funny squirrel girl instead
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>>582360497
No he's tanky to the point that he's actually a coward pick like vindicta or haze, just disguised as a bruiser
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THE RETURN OF TRAPPER
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>>582363321
Well right now Spellslinger is one of those "offensive situationals" I grab when nothing feels like it requires a specific answer (but that's rare since most teammates are usually feeding SOMEBODY and making them into a problem I have to specifically counter-build). All of those situational items are for specific things like Eshift to either deny Bebop double bombs, to not get yoinked by Lash ult cause FUCK trying to guess what his timing is gonna be with Counterspell and to disjoint Wraith Ult if she's using it specifically for me-- and so on and so forth. If I never had to build these situationals due to teammates, Spellslinger would without a doubt be a standard item for me but alas...monkeys are gonna be monkeys.
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>>582335936
Actually rope you tasteless PLEB
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I walk up and slap your paige's ass, wyd?
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>>582362717
>>582362976
>only 100~ish
Rookie numbers. decent build but I'd recommend indomitable or cheat death situationally, your build seems susceptible to hooks dislocation skills like bebop's doorman's etc.
>>582363295
>Every other part of the game he's an active throw.
You're not supposed to sit ideally by and let the game proceed when going gun rem, you're supposed to push the pace and to try and run them through before they get going, I'm not even saying end the game within 5 minutes but if you get some walkers and map control with your team then you've irreversibly ruined the enemy team's economy and fucked them over, would be near impossible to come back from that. But yeah it's not meta or anything
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not touching this dogshit version of ranked
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>>582364078
Another brickie lost...
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>>582364078
You vill place Brick.
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>>582364134
For what purpose
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>>582364061
Yeah I have some other stuff in optional that I cropped, reactive/indom, eth shift, slowing bullets (REALLY like that on her as an early buy) and so on.
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>>582364134
size_difference stomach_bulge cum_inflation
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>>582364467
Based.
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>>582359915
Yeah this is the build that has given me the most sucess with her so far. It basically just exploits the fact that 90% of the players under ascendant never push waves properly. You just run around throwing your wall off CD to make zombies and ult whenever its up, and just by doing this you basically guarantee your team has prio on lanes for the entire game and have space to do all the things they need to do
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>>582356676
You can’t really win the Cold War against cheaters when it’s a unspoken underground economy;
>game gets a good anticheat
>cheat devs price a premium for their hacks
>game devs find a way to ban that
>cheat devs just up the price and find a way around since it’s more difficult to bypass
And repeat from step 1. the most bizarre thing is how much money someone is willing to dump just to cheat in a online game really, in a game with really good consistency updated anticheat some of those shits are going for $500+
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>>582359915
>>582364708
Yeah the only changes I would make is possibly swapping out mystic shot for either slowing or toxic bullets, and EE for reverb or lightning scroll. For when you actually fight, you want people panicking and/or slowed because that's how you land more zombies on them. And for those of you that aren't aware, putting reverb on her ult lets her wall zombies proc it too.
Mystic is better PvE, slowing/toxic PvP.
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>>582365097
>the most bizarre thing is how much money someone is willing to dump just to cheat in a online game really, in a game with really good consistency updated anticheat some of those shits are going for $500+
pays for itself in the twitch donos, subs and ad rev they get :)
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>>582365293
Get out of my thread Shroud
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did they change some of the small paintings around? I don't remember the hand with the butterfly being right above the glowing portrait
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guys I just got this recommended to me on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Fs2UnCiZh-Y
it reminded me why I don't play this dogshit game with gay shitty mechanics like "do optimized box runs lmao"
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>>582365097
Never underestimated the ability of losers to waste money.
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>>582365456
Let me save you 40 seconds:
He's talking about the box room above midboss that everybody in the world knows about and takes.
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>>582365293
>>582365426
desu I don't put cheating below shroud but also every clip of him 'cheating' is the most mundane.
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Graves has got to be the hottest character in the cast because she's a goth teenager with hair covering one eye
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>>582365169
A mystic shot you can't miss is so good though. It always ends up punching above its price for me
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>>582365586
I still remember during the early days of Overwatch, there was a guy that actually bought entire new $1000+ PCs since their Anti-Cheat would flag the pc parts.
Fucker would even rent hotel rooms just for the different IP.
Cheaters are a different breed of human man
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>>582365456
every game needs to be minmaxed and turned into an esport. no fun allowed
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>>582365790
It feels very nice, especially early game yeah, but if I'm regularly fighting I find debuffing someone is the best way to get them to trip up and eat a few zombies to the face. Its also a good way to get people to fuck off if you don't want to fight.
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>>582366093
doomfist deadlock???
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>>582365767
It’s a mixed bag since shitposter Anons figured out it was easy (you), so any 100% factual webms of cheating (his mouse lining up someones head behind a wall for example) was also drowned out by 20+ webms of him shooting a guy normally
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Take one for the team and just delete bebop already
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>>582366215
>>582366093
who?
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God that was harrowing.
First time I've ever seen one team get two key players, I assumed it always gave one to the losing team out of pity, I guess it gave two this time.
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>>582366553
don't even know who that is because you modded the game to be dogshit
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>>582366553
Bro??
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>>582366553
>cheats
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>>582366553
>didn't censor the Moon
bro...
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>>582366667
Does it matter?
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>>582366791
I actually caught that and I did, also censored the skulls but forgot to upload the image again.
It's actually over for me, VAC ban for cheats incoming.
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I have lile 40% WR in ranked and have 1000 hours in this game.
What the fuck am I doing wrong
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>>582367340
Check your teammate luck on statlocker. The results might shock you.
>>582366667
There's only one character with a cat so that sounds like a you problem.
She's also butt fucking ugly so anything is an improvement.
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>>582334528
What do you mean the Union Jack is right there?
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>>582366553
>architect Geist

Kinda based
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>>582363979
She doesnt look like that
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>>582367340
apparently that's normal and the entire community is propped up by a few players with 60%+ wr's carrying them in every bracket.
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>>582367585
Why are we pretending Geist doesn't have a smoking hot model too?
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>>582368061
reminder that thats her grandson in the back there
she'd do even worse things to (You)
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what is this
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>>582368061
Only tangentially related, but nobody still expects this VN shit to come back, right?
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>>582368256
red lights means update incoming but youre a retarded gooner so kys
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>>582368256
Toe fungus
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>>582368256
my reflection
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>>582368274
I loved it but sadly I know it's not coming back. They're going for whacky reddit characters and a silly Wizard City world. Something like a VN just isn't what they want to do anymore, the game isn't serious enough for that now
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>>582368452
>>582368274
they're literally doing it in dota right now
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>>582368452
yeah they only had serious characters back in the d-AAAAACKKKKKKKKK
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>>582368578
>has a silly voice
>is actually a serious character (not a toddler in pajamas)
stfu lying blackard
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>>582368452
>the game isn't serious enough for a visual novel
Nigga you're, and I do not say this lightly, a quadruple retard
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why are carry chuds like this

he focused me every fight but i kept stalling for like 30s cause of witchmail healing + DBR stacking then he lost

carrytards dont understand how the game works and think it's team death match
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>>582368648
so true xis-AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK
what the fuck are you saying. even fucking TF2 had comics
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>>582368708
compare the release heroes and the last 6. And you'll agree the tone has change

If you don't agree then, and I do not say this lightly, a quintuple retard
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IT'S HAPPENING
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>>582368835
besides rem whats tonal change about ognb
without new=bad please.
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>>582368835
Nobody was saying the tone didn't change you sextuple retard
Saying the game being less serious means they can't or won't make visual novels for the characters is fucking stupid
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>>582368812
We need to rank these dogshit reddit voicelines from worst to ok.

Keep in mind that Valve has a policy of hiring the best in the industry for premium prize, this objectively means that they have a top scriptwriter who probably used to work on TV or Film (Marvel Movies? Why is this dialogue so coal?) and this is the best script writing AMERICANS can do.
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I didn't like any of the new released heroes since Viscous.
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>>582369289
lighten the fuck up, nigga. what else would viscous be saying to geist
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>>582369341
that's the problem. you're the type of "person" that likes viscous
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>>582369427
Doesn't say anything, immediately cubes her and sneaks some slime into her uterus.
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>>582361974
that means you got carried and opted to win harder. won't work every - or even most - games
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>>582369652
viscous would never
the adversary thoughever...
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if only the game could be dark and gritty again
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>>582369427
>Did you know that the type of alchemical fire fuel mixtures typically used in 1920s old-timey airships actually can't burn hot enough to melt spiritsteel beams?
>Yes, yes, ze dancing deepvater jevs and all zat, I am avare of such zings
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>>582370227
>erm a toddler in pjs and two teenagers ARE dark and gritty bro you're just stupid XD
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>>582369783
the other team had a venator that got fed in lane so it was even thoughbeit, we were actually losing coming out of lane until i started splitpushing
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>>582369289
When listening to every dialogue keep in mind that THE BEST 60-70 YEAR OLD BOOMER WRITER IN THE ENTIRE WEST COAST is probably writing every line of dialogue and background lore for these characters, and Gabe Newell is paying him premium salary which is about 1(one) whole yacht after 5+ years of writing work.

If you want to compare the dialogue to the OTHER BEST 65 YEAR OLD SCRIPTWRITER IN THE UNITED STATES ABSOLUTE FILM HISTORY, here's what this OTHER BOOMER is writing right now:
https://x.com/DiscussingFilm/status/2102854301802442823
>>>/tv/223406040

When the Valve writers have to cross the line and address the conflicts that they themselves invented like Ixians, The Friends of Humanity, what do you think it's going to happen? Some of the early lane conversational dialogue is not giving me hope.
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>>582370286
im sorry anon i gotta admit i was mocking you i dont know how you could ever take a game with a goo person and a spanish speaking gargoyle seriously the new heroes look cool i like em
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>>582369650
>you're the type of "person" that likes viscous
I love all his abilities and think they are very fun.
Don't really like him being a silly goo, but oh well what can you do. At least he is fun to play.
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>>582370657
Ivy literally acts and dresses like a real person could

You're actually an idiot if you conflate these two like that. REM's whole package is a departure from one core design principle: Balance.
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The update is coming. Our faith has been rewarded. Never kill yourself.
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>lightning scroll
>318
does that mean only two zombies hit someone? does it even work that way?
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HOLY FUCK THEY MANUALLY ADDED BACK THE VOTING SHIT

DOOMERS BTFO

NEW HEROES ARE COMING AND IT MIGHT BE 6 HEROES AGAIN
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>>582371221
Lightning Scroll on Graves applies to the damage that the tombstone itself deals, not the zombies.
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>>582371252
but the leakers said no new heroes
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>>582368849
But what does it mean?
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>>582371252
Could be four heroes desu.
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Halloween is approaching. We need a cursed mummy character.
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Hopefully next patch just reverts everyone back to pre March 6th patch
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Is there hope...?
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>>582366553
If the losing team dominated the game by a big margin and then loses to a teamwipe where the losing team manages to get both shrines and the patron it usually gives two key players to them.
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>Fathom
>Cadence
>(Dark) Willow
>Mummy
>Headless Horseman
>Jazz Musician

ENTER
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>>582371876
Imagine a sexy mummy

Fawkkkk
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>>582372037
unironically? it depends, you have a ton of shitters thinking the one shot shiv build is an elo potion (it is but come on now) and suck ass on him
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He is in.
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>>582372037
I hate seeing posts like these for totally normal comps

You HAVE a carry, you HAVE a frontline, you have burst. The fuck you complaining about? yeah, celeste shiv and haze are strong but your comp isn't nothing.
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https://x.com/Hxsykhia/status/2103578545221988702

The troon leaker that originally said no new heroes now thinks there are
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>>582372172
Raven
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life when not playing deadlock
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>>582372037
If you're asking that question no, there is no hope.
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>>582372565
Rabbi
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>>582372709
Hassidic jews hero in new york
Imagine the kino
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>>582325075
Okay what the fuck is going on with matchmaking.
I have dropped 3 ranks.
Someone tell me what is going on.
I went from a 56% wr to a 51.5% wr in 4 days.
What the fuck happened.
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>>582372037
Buy disarming sex and metal skin
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>>582372435
All the "leakers" are making stuff up.
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why am i punished for leaving games if im 5k behind 12 minutes in
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>>582372172
>headless horseman
>no horse

?
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>>582372037
>paradox
it's over. I've never seen a paradox with a positive kd
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>>582352391
we are going to get another horse next patch.
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>>582370372
>>582369289
Why are europoors such joyless faggots?
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>>582372773
>Hassidic jews hero in new york
Using Kabbalah and number magic.
Nuke that deals double damage on odd level numbers.
Passive with cooldown that enhances next gun attack to steal souls from enemies
Ability to loan souls to your teammates
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>>582372172
>>582373241
Horseless headsman
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Its actually insufferable how deathy pretends he has no idea when this was the faggot who leaked the original bomb of the new heroes
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>30% less bullet damage recieved and can't be headshot
>no gun, melee hero
Thoughts?
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>>582336813
this is wrong for my country
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>>582373241
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>>582373403
would genuinely be elo poison he would be perma banned not because people didnt want to play against him but because people didnt want to play with him. every match where he got through would immediately have 2+ leavers on whichever team got him
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Okay but what if the heroes in this update are just the remaining Hero Labs characters fully realized (Raven, Cadence, Slork, Trapper, Wrecker)
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>>582373403
>no gun, melee hero
Only if you can't parry him like you can't parry Silver.
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>30 points away from ranking up
>Lose 3 in a row
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>deadlock new character is a golem
>design clearly shows a deep understanding of and respect for ancient hebrew voodoo bullshit
>the arcane practices and motif of christendom remain untapped
>christians (jew worshiping polytheists) btfo once again
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>>582352391
>tall ixian bbw
>gaelic druid
>continental european; another vampire would be a bit trite but fitting
>a puppet or doll of sorts
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FREE MY NIGGA SLORK AT ONCE YOU FUCKING FAGGOTS
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>>582373635
all your fault btw and not because of the eomm in the game
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>>582373624
melee in the same sense Overwatch melee heroes are

Their M1 is just a melee swing different to regular melee
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>>582373403
90% of the reason Silver has never had a positive win rate is because the range in her lycan form is too short. Why waste a hero slot on another character that can't play Deadlock on a fundamental level?
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>>582373715
bebop isnt new
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They should add Slark from Dota, we need more gay heroes
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>>582373896
A true melee hero wouldn't work unless you get rid of the soul confirming mechanic
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Imagine we got 6 actual monsters that fit the setting and no gooner shit or schoolkids, how based would that be.
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>>582368530
the visual novel shit in dota is complete garbage from a writing perspective
it's 95% filler with you having to play four 1 hour matches to hear the characters finally finish talking about le silly legion commander boot joke xDD
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>>582374162
>no gooner shit
>"actual monsters"
Pick one
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>>582374162
Genuinely the only Blackmoor relevant shit I'd care to see at this point would maybe be a teacher, or other staff.
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Yeah yoshi let 2 Eternus 6 players duo queue against a bunch of Ascendants why not what could go wrong?
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>>582374124
You can melee creeps and melee souls

Just have him be the tankiest mf on earth (at least to gun damage) and I think it would be fine

And dullahan would kind of work perfectly since headshot damage is a big aspect of gun damage in lane and it's self-explanitory why he would be immune
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>>582374317
conventional gooner shit*
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>>582370657
>if the cast of a hero shooter has a one off silly character monster then it must mean it's ALL silly and goofy
come the fuck on nigga. they are literally adding highschool teenagers to the game now. compare silver and vyper, both are the same archetype only one of them actually goes for it instead of being a lukewarm impression of it banking on looking hot
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I want a generic wizard hero.
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which heroes could draw a perfect circle
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>>582373974
Make his M2 a spooky spike shot on a short cooldown or something
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>>582374564
dynamo is the obvious answer
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>>582374552
That's.... Also a Rabbi!
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>>582374552
Only if he talks like an italian mobster
https://youtu.be/sRkE_Gv6ALM?si=C42WY_K_sG_-dYdJ
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Dimov, Lystic, Obkiym, Cosmetical, Vegas, Abl , Sanya ,Lomein, Overseas literally every single one of them needs to be fucking killed just a bunch of duo queue niggers i love fighting against faggot dimov and his duo
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>>582373403
>let's make Holliday worse
fuck off
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>>582374806
Does lystic duo much?
Every time i tune into his stream it's just despair soloq
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>>582374124
>hero design should be forever under the grip of a vestigial system that at best lasts for the first 10 minutes of the game and it only currently serves as an attention check

you're unironically the reason why the cast shares the same 4 guns between all fucking heroes. jump off a roof
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>>582374914
he literally never stops duoing with fucking hoot or cosmetical fucking nigger streamers
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>>582374124
Light melee's confirm souls.
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they're gonna add a spider soon.
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>>582374124
>>582374978
There already a piss easy solution for laning
Just make the m2 a weak pea shooter used for soul confirmation
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WW1 veteran with a bolt action rifle.
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>>582374552
Not occult enough
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>>582374432
then he builds enduring, fleetfoot, warpstone, and coldfront/mystic slow, and you're never escaping the tankiest mofo as he rapes you to death.
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>>582375178
>we're not allowed to have muffet anymore cause someone was cringe 10 years ago
Fuck
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>>582375380
Undead WW1 veteran who got reanimated for some occult mysterious reason.
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>>582372784
Huh?
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>>582375480
World Wars never happened bwo
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I like playing utility characters but it's genuinely wasted on the mouth breathing retards in brick, can I Graves my way out?
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>>582375579
Undead veteran of from Ixian Wars who got reanimated for some occult mysterious reason.
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>>582375463
hmmm?
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Wonder what the hold up was for this update. The game obviously isn't winding down but what did nine months pass for?
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metal skin doesn't do anything
straight up useless item, the perfect upgrade to the less than useless return fire
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>>582375579
>>582375662
Civil War Vet
Crimean War Vet
Boer Wars Vet
>>582375839
Modeling Mina's asshole.
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>>582372435
Valve executed all the leakers.
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>>582375839
We explicitly know thst the past month was used fof extra playtesting

So they had 6-7 months of real development
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>>582375754
I'm mostly joking but Muffet was one of 3 characters made by fans as a part of a "pay to get your OC in the game" thing that Toby never expected anyone to actually buy. It was a reference to something the Homestuck people did.
After Undertail exploded the 3 people who paid were all extremely normal about it and Toby kinda distanced himself from the whole thing so no more spider sex.
Of course we were probably never gonna see them again anyway but still.
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>>582368812
this is sovl and only brownoids disagree
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The vote system is for who gets their redesign released first.
No new heroes
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>>582374124
a true melee hero in this game is just infinite short range M1 spam. the RPS in the current melee is what makes it satisfying, people are just asking for a dumbed down melee system
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>>582374379
did you play against avg (#2 NA) and lomein (#1 NA) as well? I LOVE DUO QUEUE ITS VERY FUN AND BALANCED LOL THANKS YOSHI!
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>>582376493
>RPS
Just like rock paper scissors
Scissors beats rock
Scissors beats paper
Scissors beats scissors
(Scissors is parry)
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I hope they fix the bug that lets pocket negate all damage with his briefcase ability
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>>582374379
>phantom III
>my entire team is Phantoms and one Oracle VI
>two Ascendant IIs on the enemy team

What the fuck is wrong with this game.
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>>582376846
It's weird that Mo'n'Krill has that same bug.
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>>582376846
I hope they buff Mina so she counters him even harder.
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>>582376941
>him
THEM!!!!
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Do people actually want a Sinclair rework? He's fun. They just need to remodel him a maybe make his anims have better effects, that's it.
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>>582376881
the ranks are visual
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>>582374552
>>582375380
make him a rich poof cultist worshipping a demon
>1: shoot a fireball or something
>2: shoot a lightning bolt or something
>3: shoot a frost bomb or something
>ult: summon the demon, the demon picks him up to use as a club (basically a transformation spell)
personality: megalomaniac, pretentious, snobby. except when talking with the demon (it occasionally makes comments) where he becomes a cowardly lickspittle

also make him sort of behind the times, because he keeps acting as if magic is still some sort of esoteric art form and not something even hot dog vendors make daily use of, and the other characters make fun of him over it
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>enemy is melee-ing me
>hit the most dogshit panic parry of my career
>they fucking punch it
>kill them
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>>582376686
https://glossary.infil.net/?t=RPS

exactly. this is what adds depth to deadlock as a whole. people just want a short range infinite M1 hero. miss me with that shit.
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>>582377017
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>>582377092
Clearly fucking not because those two ascendants happened to lane with eachother, a haze paige duo infact. And they ran the fucking lobby. We lost in 26 minutes.
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>>582358363
>scales everything in the build including tesla/capacitor's proc damage
you're brown
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>>582377360
every time i see this i think its almost comfy at first until he opens the window and i remember its not a remote cabin in the woods or something but fucking brazil
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>>582377535
honestly just glad that dude can have a gaming PC and play the same slop we do despite not having a floor. also I think that's peru
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what's some shit from deadlock past you miss, even if it might have been ass? I miss haze ulti killing an entire team in 3 seconds.
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>>582377863
Ivy's original model was better.
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if there isn't eomm how come i literally have never gotten carried in standard?
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>>582376679
deserved for being a furnigger
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>>582378156
If you've never gotten carried that's a sign that there's no EOMM, optimizing for engagement would give you some state mandated wins to keep you hooked.
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>>582376679
love yourself furchad
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I want to rape paradox so bad.
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>look at deadlock api duos
>m1ggers laning together have massively inflated winrate
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>>582378409
so you're saying in 36 games, me, a below average player, never got a decent player on my team who can go 20-0 and carry?
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Drifter and Mina are conventionally attractive vampires. It's time for a nosferatu style freak.
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>>582379187
we don't want to remind the players of themselves
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>>582377535
floor like that is peru
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We need our own Devil Dinosaur
A big, non humanoid tank but more occult and freaky and fucked up
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>Valve: Let's add comeback mechanics to this Moba since all the other ones don't have any
>Valve: AND let's also make it so you have to FIGHT for those comeback mechanics while your enemy has a major advantage over you and if you fail (you will because they have a major fucking advantage over you) they get an even bigger lead over you!
And so the streamers and high rank smooth brains loudly clapped their hands at this brilliant game design.
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>>582379779
Because we actually contest them???
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I want a pirate character
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>>582377360
my dota2 teammate!
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>>582350742
i build like this every game
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>>582374532
Silver's fine for being a slightly more serious version of it
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>>582378156
if you lose too many games you eventually get people that just chain report you for griefing putting you in bad boy queue (soft low prio, which isnt displayed) all the matches are super onesided.
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>>582379779
>>Valve: Let's add comeback mechanics to this Moba since all the other ones don't have any
overwatchsissies... we can't keep exposing ourselves like this
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>>582364134
hopefully the fastest mod to become outdated
we need krill remodel this patch or the game dies forever
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>>582381108
xhe could be a riotsissie
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>>582379779
You can blame the retards that complained about rifts being "unwinnable" in high elo.
You know what you do if you're ahead? You zone the enemy off the rift before it spawns, or kill them before it spawns, or splitpush, or do midboss.
The comeback mechanics were fine, people just bitched and moaned because all they know how to do is shoot minion, teamfight, eat hot chip and lie.
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>>582381108
Nope, never played, but you can keep projecting all you want
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Last time the hideout got updated with little things that hinted at each new character, there's nothing like that this time which is the last bit of evidence you need to conclude there are no new heroes.
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>>582364134
She took everything in the divorce...
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>>582382667
there are LITERALLY FUCKING LASER BEAMS SHOOTING OUT OF THE PAINTING YOU DUMB FUCKING ANIMAL
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"Update is coming at the end of the rank season" retards look real stupid now
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>>582382667
You're gonna look so dumb when they update the hideout with little hints at the new characters tomorrow
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>>582382883
Just means there's an update lil guppington don't spike your blood pressure.
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>>582382667
I'm trying to remember the timeline but I don't think those were up for very long, like maybe 3 days? If the update isn't until Wednesday, they may still be holding those back to drop in on another preparatory patch on Monday.
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Make a new thread there's a post I wanna make
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Does this game host a lot of "movement players" aka trannies?
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I'm sleeping until monday, good night for 2 days
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>>582383914
goodnight
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>>582383908
so like... some kind of movetranny? no, never heard of them
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>>582383914
Nighy nigh nigaaah!
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>>582382971
>lil
zoomer retard get the fuck off my unc site
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>>582384603
>>582384603
>>582384603
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>>582383914
I'll wake you up when september ends
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>>582383748
They were added to the game at the same time Yoshi said the update was a few days away. Both happened on the 20th of January, the update was the 22nd.
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>>582381784
Crazy that all of those are options that the ahead team can do, but the behind team that needs it? Nothing, you have zero options to win and you're about to have even less.



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