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>News
Agent Record | Severian
https://www.hoyolab.com/article/46653676
Agent Record | Phoenix
https://www.hoyolab.com/article/46653231
[Web Event] Vyrium Vacation Album
https://hoyo.link/3wOLXYiYD
Version 3.2 Special Program
https://youtu.be/kdGJDZb6mWk

>Newest Trailer/Teaser/Character Demo
https://youtu.be/w088eYNQW4w (EN)
https://youtu.be/n1CR-XqPYEU (JP)
https://youtu.be/Ln0ilmPqXU0
https://youtu.be/VjNhciBWgug (EN)
https://youtu.be/_Q6RmpJjZHs (JP)

>Upcoming Events for 3.2
https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/en-us/news/166000
All-New Program 09/09 - 10/20
Angels Support Operation 09/09 - 11/30
Potential Hypothesis: Reforged in Fire 09/09 - 10/20
Clink Clank Pinball Knight! 09/10 - 10/19
Shadow Chase Showdown 09/16 - 10/05
Surprise Screening PLan 09/23 - 10/20
Advanced Bounty: Area Patrol 09/23 - 09/28
Diary of an Orbie Parent 09/30 - 10/19
"En-Nah" Into Your Lap 09/30 - 10/20
Chronicles of the Hobbling Crow 10/03 - 10/19
Data Bounty: Combat Simulation 10/14 - 10/19

>Redeemable Codes
https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/redemption
ZENLESSGIFT
ZZZGRIND32
ZZZINK32
ZZZVOID32

>Resources and Useful Links
https://rentry.org/zzzlinks
https://rentry.org/ZZZ-Friends
https://rentry.org/ZZZ-Guilds

>/zzz/ OP Pastebin (use this if making new thread)
https://pastebin.com/PzbMf13P
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I love my wife Aria!!!
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Booooo this isn't a Dialyn thread.
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Ari- wait
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!!!airA efiw ym evol I
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>>582488538
>Norma thread maker has a micro penis
Checks out
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>playing labyrinth
>get claret's tactical prisim
>She one shots everything
Did they overtune her? Her damage output is insanely high in this mode
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>>582488606
Sunna next
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I really wasn't gonna play this game anymore but being exposed to too much Norma porn made me really want to pick the game back up
Weird that nobody ever shilled her, I only ever saw the idols getting randomly posted in other places
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>>582488538
Flopgods won
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>>582488712
Wrong all Norma-anons have huge white cocks
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I would hang up on Dialyn and never answer her calls.
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Astra wife
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>>582488750
Maybe if these son a bitches made more than one loli per year who was DPS I'd like Norma more.
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I don't expect her to, but I'll definitely get Norma if she reruns in 3.3
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>>582488598
Yet
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Please don't summon Yuzuha I'm not wearing pants...
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Astra rejection.
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Aria is a waste of pulls!
Aria is a rugpulled jobber!
Aria is a powercrept brick!
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Nangong is such a chinese name
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>>582488742
>Aria after her friends have all died and she is tired of losing people close to her so she recreates the AoD as an Intelligent Construct only group.
>Vesper, now free from TOPs after many centuries, sees that it isn’t healthy for her, but knows that that its the only thing keeping her from literally self destructing
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Astra divorce.
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Sleeping in the same bed with Sunna but it's hard to fall asleep because she's a cuddlebug
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For me not for you.
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If you could take one zzz character and put them in another game, who would you pick?
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>>582489031
sunna
space marine 2
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Astra crying from being told she's not worth the trouble marrying.
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I've got a big penis, please don't make fun of me.
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>>582488913
The build up for Phoenix’s super is cool, but the actual impact is kinda meh.
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Astra's new drinking problem
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>>582489031
Norma
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>>582489031
Piper
Twisted Metal
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>>582488742
Oh wow, I love that.
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Sunna's world collapsing as her role model drinks herself into a coma
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Holy shit this patch is empty as fuck
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>>582489031
Ju Fufu
World of Warcraft
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Astra eating a tub of ice cream while sobbing in bed, depressed and lonely, unsexed and unsatisfied, Evelyn falling sad from feeling her pain.
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>>582489194
feels like a normal patch to me. Pinball was a let down.
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>>582489194
That's what Sunna is for
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>>582489031
Nicole
Project X Zone 2
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>>582489237
what a horrible dream astra was having. then she woke up and got fucked by me just like she wanted
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>>582489031
Anby and/or Harin into Soul Calibur.
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Astra's suicide changing New Eridu for decades to come.
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>>582489273
sunna what have we said about standing on the couch with your shoes on?????
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....
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>>582489319
isn't soul calibur's character creator robust enough these days to just recreate that
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>>582489316
Belle…
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>>582489113
Very much disagree. The impact is just enough and not over the top. Any more and in actual gameplay it would be too much. You also have Velina's wind stuff and Remie's off field stuff so it's easy for the effects to be overpowering.
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I like to watch
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>>582489031
Ellen
Smash Brothers Ultimate
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How would the Angels of Delusion change if Aria was dismantled and sold for parts to a junkyard?

Would they get a third human member or would they just find a new robot?
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>>582489031
Aria!
Probably any somewhat popular anime fighting game, I bet she would be really fun.
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How would the AoD change if all of New Eridu got consumed by the Dark Wall?
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>>582489595
Would you really want to see Aria getting thrashed by Broly in DBfighterz?
>>582489591
Kirby Ellen
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>>582489595
he wants to see aria getting beaten up
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>>582489430
Shoot, you're probably right.
Too bad I'm old and still like SCII's responsiveness the best. I should learn modding and wreck shit with SAnby as Cervantes.
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>>582489759
They'd be dead, along with everyone else
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>>582489031
Sunna
Interactive Buddy
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>>582489595
Every anime fighter has a character with butt attacks.
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>>582489031
Sigrid
Red Dead Redemption 2
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>>582489594
AoD collapses, Forecasters break out.
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>>582489594
I think they'd disband from trauma
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>>582489031
Miyabi
Fire Emblem
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>>582490056
>Bond 3
>Renown 10
>Negotiations: Bring me a melon
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>>582490056
Would she take the place of the edgy sword guy?
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>>582489594
group suicide
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Astra pubes
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>>582489031
Pulchra
WET
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>>582489762
>>582489782
It would be the opposite, I would have a char that I want to get so good at playing that they can't be beaten.
>>582489886
That's kind of true, but they're not Aria.
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[Hotfix news] Her full name has been changed to Phoenix Trannykiller
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>>582490040
Pink is such a whore
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>>582490495
They're each their own kind of hot.
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>>582489031
Anby or Harin in MGRR
All 3 AoD in river city ransom (where they rescue sunna)
Jane in MGS1
Billy in Contra / Super C
Remielle in FF7
Norma in Megaman X5
S Billy in Power Rangers on SNES
Cissia in one of those eating games or Pac Man
Yixuan in second life
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A R I A
R
I
A
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[Hot News] Phoenix is dead.
Leave your parting words here.
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>Ye Shunguang calls out to you from above, lands near you on her flying sheath and excitedly presents you a dark box wrapped with a red ribbon
>"Darling junior! I made you a bento all by myself, without Pan's help for once, to help you keep your strength up. A-And because I really c-care about yo-"
>Remielle suddenly lands next to you with a steaming container in hand, humming medlodically
>"Partner in crime~ I made you my own homemade, delicious Falafels I used to make for my comrades back in the day and-"
>Shunguang and Remi both lock eyes and fall silent
>"...A-Ahem, w-well, there's no worries, I've already made Junior a healthy portion of lunch..."
>"Oh, bento? How thoughtful... but I think the Proxy would like something a little more filling, and tasty~"
>"Hmph...!"
>"Hmm~..."
>both staring daggers at each other now

Whose lunch do you eat? You can't possibly eat both.
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>>582489031
It's probably Cissia right? Though i wish i could bring Shunko too.
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>>582490809
>Aria with cleavage
I didn't know I wanted this...
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>>582488538
>he baked a normu bread
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Kissing Sunna on the lips
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>>582489594
They'd sooner replace her parts with smaller, cheaper to maintain ones than sell her entirely
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>>582490954
Come back. You are cute.
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>>582490960
Thanks girls but Yixuan made me some delicious chow mein already so excuse me while I go show her my 'gratitude'....
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>>582490954
She's 10% worse than Jane currently which is a real shame but an ez skip at the same time.
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>>582491190
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>>582490954
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>>582491374
I haven't been in the loop for awhile, did she get nerfed?
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>>582491190
Why you looking there buddy?
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>>582491515
Because my eyes were drawn to it, now go fuck yourself
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>>582491424
Why does she have breasts anyway?
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>Operation Bagel
This is fun. It's all I've ever wanted in a 3D gacha game mode. A map full of enemies to fight with my favorite units. The looting is also a bonus. And the high risk nature is nice.
Endfield could never.
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You know browns are fragile, when they complain about child DPS agents like Aria being so scarce but won't actually pay to get their revenue up.
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>>582491462
Yes, she is definitively worse than Jane Doe in meta anomaly comps such as Velina + Ramielle.
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>>582488712
good afternoon, pagpag
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>>582491569
Hey you're not me
>>582491424
Lewd
>>582491515
I couldn't help but notice
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>>582491578
She's a girl.
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>>582490960
>You can't possibly eat both
wanna bet
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Just realized I hadn't watched any of the demos/trailers since Remielle's short anime. Just got around to it.

>Remielle
It was okay. It cooled cool and all but honestly the only sob story that's ever gotten to me so far was Astra's, and I don't even like her.
>Sigrid
About what I expected. She's kind of a one note joke, but she's cute and pleasant enough.
>Claret
It was literally all gay sex. All of it. I have no fucking clue what goes on at Hoyo HQ or why they decided to make her (you)bait in her trust events.
>Roxy.
I mean... kind of a nothingburger. It's just her being tired and beating some mob ethereals.
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>>582491578
Backup power storage.
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>>582491218
sunna looks like she's going to boil the semen in my balls at 24,000C
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>>582490960
Miyabi already made me some melon spaghetti though.
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>>582488538
Normu smooch!!!
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>>582491749
Hoyo is an omnipandering company
They want to pander to all audiences and ZZZ takes it a step further by appealing to even niche audiences like furries and robot fuckers so you end up with a bunch of games that want to appeal to everyone at once instead of focusing on a specific fanbase
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>>582490960
I stay loyal and eat the food of champions instead.
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>>582491749
Roxy got some good angles in hers but I kinda wanted more lore...
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>>582491374
>10% worse than jane
>not even in the same element niche
I do not understand how zzz players play the game. Do you guys just neutral into every content? At that point, why even bother pulling for anybody other than void hunters?
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>>582491628
How bad is she in non-meta teams?
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Taking Sunna for some summer fun at Camp Crystal Lake
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What 2 set should I get for Aria and Nangong?
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>>582491374
M2 Jane, right?
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>>582491694
>>582491708
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>Yixuan shows up to ruin season 2 chapter 2 with more magic hocus pocus deus ex machina bullshit
Evidently the writers never realized there's a reason the OP master sage character who could solve every problem usually gets killed off early in a story
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>>582490960
Eat the Bento and give Belle the Falafels is the right choice.
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Are you dreaming /zzz/?
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Teaching Sunna profitable crafting skills and then taking her out for ice cream.
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I'm brown. I think the AoD are okay. I'm not sexually attracted to them, but they have fun character interactions. Nangong is my favorite. I would like Aria more if they committed to full bot. Sunna probably takes second.

I own all three.
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>>582491972
It's mystery that an 1.1 unit is stronger than Phoenix but it is what it is
>>582491979
10% worse across the board though your mileage may vary
>>582491994
No, M0
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>>582490960
Give both lunches to Soukaku is the rightererest choice.
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>>582491983
Any of the ones that give 30 AP.
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/zzz/ is a treat because you have the people that say phoenix is 25% better than aria then you have the ones that say she's 10% worse than Jane and the only way to find out which ones right is 2 months after the fact when everyone has already played the character to death
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I like fire characters but I'm having a hard time finding a reason to roll Phoenix
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>Luciana
latin/italian
>Auxesis
>Theodoro
both greek
>de (specifically lowercase)
french nobility particle. the italian/spanish version of this particle would be capitalized.
>Montefio
made-up name, but likely based on "Montefiore", an italian surname.
unlike most characters, i'm pretty sure hoyo named lucy based purely on what sounded noble rather than something that etymologically tracks to real life.
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>>582492216
>M0 Phoenix allows anomaly crits for the entire team for all elements
>M0 jane is a piper downgrade
>M2 Jane only allows crit for physical anomalies
That doesn't even make sense. This guy is just retarded.
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>>582491931
>Hoyo is an omnipandering company
On principle? Yes. But not all agents get any real (you)bait. So it's weird that they gave so much to the one that it's in a sexually active gay relationship.
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>>582492460
Because they want to omnipander? Making one agent (You)focused wouldn't be omnipandering so they gave her youbait so everyone can beb happy@
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It's fucking crazy that Phoenix is worse than Piper, as if Roxy wasn't bad enough. What are they thinking?
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Killing Sunna with a machete at Camp Crystal Lake
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>>582492407
He’s just trying to keep Promeia relevant.
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>>582492161
Nangong...
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>>582492713
Turning Sunna into Sunahole...
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Sunna...Aria told me you were touching her chest again
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>>582492397
>the spanish version of this particle would be capitalized
It would not. Where did you even get that from?
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>>582490960
Do a 360 and walk away and rape Fufu instead
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>Reffaella means "god heals" in hebrew
Are you ready to pull for the first jewish agent?
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>>582492660
Outclassing so many still to this day, in so many ways.
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>>582492713
Sunna getting psychic powers and fucking Jason up and sealing him underwater...but the ending gets cut and ruined by the MPAA
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>>582491218
Why are these children giving me bedroom eyes?
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>>582492954
Pure sex
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>>582493014
I assume the artist was mentally ill
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>>582492948
SKIPAROO
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>>582493014
They're just squinting because I don't let them see sunlight very often
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>>582492713
You wouldn't get past the bam bam hammer
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>>582493094
I am too. I like it
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>>582493014
they look more like they're trying to extort and/or rape me
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>>582492948
Your Remiel?
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Who is the Ronova of ZZZ?
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Which way, Proxy Man?
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>>582490960
>You can't possibly eat both.
you don't know me
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>>582493364
Stacked president!
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>>582492534
Anon I'm not sure if you're reading the words on the screen. There's plenty of characters without any meaningful (you)bait already. They're not always omnipandering, or even pandering at all. So it's weird that they chose to throw in (you)bait here as well.
Think of Hugo for example, that's a turbofag who ever fags.
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>>582492948
If having a name that comes from hebrew makes you jewish then Benjamin Bigger is already in the game
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>>582493370
who the fuck is ronova
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>>582493376
Easiest choice of my life.
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>Phoenix is 10% worse than jane
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>>582493376
Both + threesome
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>>582493469
>never grows taller
>but her bust keeps increasing
imagine
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>The unsourced website with no run posted again

Weird how agendaposters LOVE this kinda post
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>>582489031
I rather put my favorites from other games in ZZZ
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>>582493632
PhoenixGODS won
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which cat thiren pussy smells the best?
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>>582493370
>cute tsundere wife
Nobody really.
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>>582493632
don't post this, it hurts ariatranny's feelings
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>>582493739
Nah, fit shortstacks look best when theyre flat. Medium is allowed but its already a downgrade
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/down/ was wildin' earlier.
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>>582493739
I like her small, but I also wouldn't mind her growing.
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>>582488538
i jack off to norma
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>>582493791
gabriel angelos in ZZZ
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>>582490960
I'll take it over anything Vivian makes, Vivian puts her pussy juices in her food.
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>>582493908
the idea of her getting increasingly flustered at her development would be very cute
i do admit that i also like fit and flat though
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>>582493756
>neutral dps test with a yt video to back it up
VS
>trust me bro she's 10% worse than jane :)
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Imagine burying your face into Miyabi's butt.
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>>582493791
But we're already getting robin though
I'd rather save some cute girls and put them in a game that doesn't hate them
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BLOW THEM ALL UP!
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Snek wife
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Why does hoyoslop attract so much autism
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If Sunbringer works on dual DPS teams how would you want her to work?
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>>582494489
BAM BAM HAMMER
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>>582494693
>Mario saves Yidhari from Scorpion
Kino...
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Bagel is fun
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>>582494693
>"self-inserters are lame because gacha MCs are always c-"
>self-inserts as Mario in ZZZ
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>>582494585
I love snek so much its unreal
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>>582494832
>if there are 2/3 attack agents in the team sunbringer gains a +20/+40% DMG bonus, a +1000/2000 ATK bonus and a +15/+30% Crit DMG bonus
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>>582495000
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Since ZZZ loves leaning into the whole "Little girl as stunner" then I hope they do a little girl with a giant shield as the next one. Armorer could also work too.
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>>582493376
>Sigrid
>terrible personality
>crippling autism, not of the "cute anime girl" variety
>WILL break your bones during sex, not in a kinky way, just by accident
>barely functional, only survives because she keeps falling upwards
>Horses are notoriously awful at sex

>Lucy
>tsundere that comes with a manual, you can get any reaction you want from her and manipulate her as you wish
>overcompetent and intelligent
>can be manhandled in any way and position you desire
>heir to generational wealth
>tightest pussy in all of New Eirdu

Even thought the devs hate her and barely even gave you any scenes with her in her own summer event, the choice could not be any more blindingly obvious.
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>>582495107
Imagine how awful that would feel to play. You’d bring Billy just to watch her do damage.
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Velina can't correct me, I'm an adult.
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>>582493370
No one (yet)
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>>582495415
sure you are, norma
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>>582495175
Slucy after Snicole. Trust the plan.
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>>582495143
Velina is fun in bed
Bagel isnt fun
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>>582495375
which is why the other 2 sunbringers would be an integral part of her kit
when you defensive assist with sunbringiner out you don't swap agents but instead summon dracaene to block it with the assist follow up done by a summoned lindverne. when you ex special lindervene joins in or does aftershock style attacks from off field. sunrbigners ult summons both dracaene and lindervne, etc
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>>582490358
I was trying to think of Pulchra with something, but yeah this is very fitting
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>>582495489
Shut up I'm a university professor NOBODY CAN TELL ME WHAT TO DO NANODA
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>>582495534
no sex until you finish your bagel
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>>582495623
this has to be the worst idea ever made so I bet you work at hoyoverse
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do the chinese have souls
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>>582495534
No one says this
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Norma is grounded.
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>>582495806
They didn't have a renaissance
Instead those chose to kill all their birds
What do you think?
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ZZZ's problem compared to the other games is the entire off-field mechanic
Imagine really liking a character, looking forward to playing a character and having said character be demoted to an off-field agent that only exists to be an accessory or add-on to better characters because their entire kit is press a button and disappear for the rest of the fight

Other games don't have that and actually allow you to play your character
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>>582494832
>If there's at least 1 A rank agent on the team increase all A rank agent's damage done by 300%
it's the only thing that could possibly make me roll her.
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>>582495623
I could see Lindverne doing damage while Eldeda is off-field. This would allow your other DPS to build up Eldeda’s resource.
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>>582495934
Cool she can be grounded with Sunna
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>>582493842
Smells the best? Nekomata (but only on daily communal shower days)
Ju Fufu is the tightest
Pulchra is indifferent
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>>582496081
That's literally how every other game's supports and subdps work, are you retarded? Characters that cannibalize field time from each other feel fucking awful.
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>>582495934
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>>582496569
triple plump normaboo...........
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>>582496562
>I have literally never played another gacha in my life but that's literally how every other game works
Never ever reply to me again with your retarded opinions
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>>582496562
Endfield
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what if sunbringer accomplishes the 3-in-1 by filling the other 2 agent slots with 'ghosts' of Lindverne and Dracaene? they are for all intents and purposes a 2nd and 3rd agent for swapping, defensive assists, chain attacks, additional ability activation, etc, an inherit Eldreda's stats. And if you don't want one or both of them they can also be freely replaced by agents of your choice if you desire?
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Disagree?
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>>582496081
If anything ZZZ is the only action-based one that even partially addressed the problem by making the stunner role so that you have two primary on-fielders, until they made off-field stunners...
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>>582496761
what if you stopped reposting the same thing a dozen times per thread
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>>582496920
Jane should be higher
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>>582496081
>Other games don't have that and actually allow you to play your character
Name 3 that do this.
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>>582495031
She's a cutie patootie
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>>582497080
retard
retard
retard
That was easy
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>>582492713
Sunna and Nangong killed by isis for underage prostitution
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>>582496724
endfield is not a swapshit game retard
>>582496713
Show me one team from any swapshit game like zzz that has all characters take equal field time. Do it and I paypal you $500 USD you monkey.
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>>582497080
Endfield
Endfield
Endfield
It's the best game on the market.
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>>582494338
It was illustrative anon
Sure I want fufu in Smash Ultimate or whatever but I would also like say, Varesa or Hu Tao in ZZZ
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>>582497182
>So mixed up he can't even remember what side he's on
Read the fucking messages retard
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>>582492948
>Jewish surname and shit genshin-like design
Yeah that sums it up, skip her, anons
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>>582496929
Launch ZZZ had the right idea yeah then they went into the whole off-field stunner thing and "Press skill to fuck off" characters so now you have the cast divided into "can actually stay on the field" and "designed so you never have to play them"
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>>582492948
>first jewish agent
Holy based
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>>582496081
They had some good ideas to get around this issue like team animations (Belobog, AoD) or aftershock/having the previous agent do something onfield while swapped out but haven't really expanded on this.
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>>582496920
Good taste.
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>>582493632
I'm a little annoyed at how Promeia was rugpulled. I mean I got her cheap in 40 pulls and gave her FC, so no regrets or anything but we all expected her to be better than she is.
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>>582497293
>Launch ZZZ had the right idea yeah then they went into the whole off-field stunner thing and "Press skill to fuck off" characters
that's literally nicole
she exists only to shoot her black hole and then get swapped out for the DPS
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Astra best girl
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>>582497184
So true sis
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>>582497293
Did people complain about how Qingyi works?
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>>582497376
Hey join the club with the rest of the rugpulled characters
You can take a seat with the rest of us here
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>>582496920
Can a woman even be actively bad in bed? They really don't have to do anything.
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>>582497248
>can't even produce one video of a team that has characters sharing equal field time
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Guys think I can make it? I'm trying for M1.
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>>582494585
if you notice, cissa does a short hop and can allow her tail to move her by slithering
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>>582497547
why is your game in chinese?
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>>582497547
Oh yeah you'll make it easily
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>>582497516
deadpan can be bad
both people can move to meet each other, you know
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>>582497604
Nangong is Chinese so he's honoring her
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she giv u this look

wat do
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>>582497516
They can starfish, which makes positioning awkward.
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>>582497468
Literally yes because the moment Astra Nicole wheelchair was a thing, they dropped qingyi immediately. In general, double support was heavily favored over stunners until they gave stunners ridiculous damage and daze and additional damage multipliers too.
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>>582497697
Her tits will look horrible by 30
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>>582497697
Sorry, I'm gay.
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>>582497468
probably
people hate fun
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>>582497671
I hate hoyocucks banning new agents from ever having Japanese names, professional cuckery
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so what's the difference between having a stunner on field 70% of the time to build the stun meter and then bringing out the attacker to dump resources for a DPS burst during the stun window and having a attacker on field 70% of the time and having the stunner pop in every now and then to dump resources to burst the stun meter?
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I have the usual Miyabi/Nangong/Yuzuha team. Should I go for m1 or w1 for her...?
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>>582497697
don't look at me!
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>>582497746
>by 30
I thought she already was in her 30s by her mannerisms and voice.
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>>582497697
I wish she met Rina and dated because yuri British sag hex!!!
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>>582497806
People need to see health going down all the time or else they get bored.
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Are the rare items in bagel all random or is there a strategy to collect them all?
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>>582497806
This isn't a scenario you have to think about anymore because stunners will come on-field for 5 seconds to do 80% of your attacker's dps and then go off-field to 60% of your attacker's dps while you get to play with your attacker 90% of the time.
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Belle is a lucky girl
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>>582498049
vivian*
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I love yuri
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>>582497806
Having stunners that stay on field and burst DPS characters that stay off-field until its time to dump would introduce variety to this game and we can't have that
Every team should be the same boring shit where hoyo's designated shill chara stays on field 95% of the time and the rest is just refreshing buffs/debuffs with the designated buffsluts
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>>582498049
vivian's last appearance in the story btw
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>>582497983
there's a few in either specific locations or acquisition methods, but mostly just random yeah. individual rates can be quite low so don't be surprised because some are worth a fuckton of gear coins
>stable carrot is only from the carrot event
>data orb is only from the signal locator event
>golden trash man is only in trash cans
>hound mask is only from hound
>the ones introduced in season 2 are high-risk only
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>>582498320
What a cutie
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>>582498224
>Having stunners that stay on field and burst DPS characters that stay off-field until its time to dump would introduce variety to this game and we can't have that
was that not how stunners used to work? I only started in 2.5 but going through the early story content it really felt like the stunners were the designated on field characters to build up the stun meter while the attackers were the ones that stayed mostly off field until it was their time
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>>582498347
Thanks, I guess I'll just stop thinking about it too hard and figure it out later when I'm missing only a few.
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Astra Yao performs private concerts for TOPUSU big wigs, does she perform something else too?
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>>582498620
Astra is pure
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>>582498362
why arent they sharing the big bangboo with nangong?
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>>582497806
Switching between stunner and burst DPS was a lot more evenly balanced than the off-field support who comes out for two seconds, introducing off-field stunners screwed that up
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What if Norma gave you a drink that was drugged and you woke up to find her doing this to you

https://litter.catbox.moe/wmxyvvg4dv1rzly8.mp4
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>>582498965
dont even need to be drugged for that
lets go for it all day and night long
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>>582498586
500k high risk runs can catalog a lot of them for you fairly easily
then as you pick up keycards along the way, hopefully your 2.5mil runs are nice to you but don't count on it
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shy girl
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>>582498839
She just wants to sleep.
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>>582498549
Yeah but people (read: retards) hate it when their big dick dps isnt dealing damage 100% of the time on field so they changed it
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>>582498764
Pure evil slut
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>>582499128
Why can't she...
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>>582498965
Marriage proposal during impregnation cumshot straight into womb.
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>>582498904
Too bad devs are retarded and immediately changed the entire game due to complaints like always
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Phoenix should release with dolphin shorts alt outfit. Every PAWG is obligated to wear one
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>>582498965
I would struggle violently and call Velina for help because I would never allow someone not Nangong to do this to me.
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>>582489031
Yi Xuan and Seed are quite unique in how they work, it would be cool to have a whole video game based around how they work.
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>>582499656
bro what the fuck
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Phoenix!

Well? What do you think?
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>>582499656
why are you posting this
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>>582499856
I think phoenix is cute and characters I like tend to be bad so she's going to be cursed too
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>>582499656
oh phew good thing koleda has her top on
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>>582499856
I like her eyes but her overall color palette is kind of muted and boring.
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So it's official. The face of the game is Astra and Ellen.
Not belle and wise, not the gooner rat, not nicole, not shungus, not remi, not even mibibi
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>>582498904
>>582497986
Off fielders in general really did fuck things up.
Imagine shilling a character to your friend, getting them really interested in playing the game with you then you tell them that the characters role is pressing a button to stay off-field the entire fight
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Roxy's banner is killing this game
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Astra Yao was the beginning of the end.
>Chink pop singer
>100% off-field in an action game
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>>582500312
the face of zzz is literally anby though?
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Good night Yuzuha
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what about Nangong Yu's banner?
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>>582500320
Yeah, Lucia has the most underutilized concept in the game. They made a goat thiren summoner into an ex special.
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>>582498965
I'd scream out for Velina (or Remielle since she's always nearby) to save me.
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>>582500320
Probably not nearly as devastating as telling that friend the character they really like hasn't actually been available for a year
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>>582500890
>Hey I like this character a lot, whens she coming back?

Then you get a choice of "She hasn't had a rerun in over a year lol" or "She just reran and won't be coming back for a long time"
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Is Cissia stinky?
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>>582497839
She's in her mid-20s since she mentions she finished college not long ago.
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What if we had a character that combined all of those
>Hasn't had a rerun and won't be reran
>Off-field character with nonexistent field time
>Out of a job because she got powercreeped by better off-field stunners
I love hoyoverse
They're the best when it comes to treating their characters right
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Do we know which characters are going to need Roxy? Still haven't rolled Claret. Pondering if I should.
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>>582501182
Soap smell
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What’s the downside of rerunning more characters at a time? Miyabi should have already had her second rerun by now.
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>>582501370
>What’s the downside of rerunning more characters at a time?
Less fomo and it would make players happy which means it definitely can't happen
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Kissing Sunna
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>>582501454
Alright pal, hands behind your back.
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>>582500320
I don't get the brain damage that leads people to say this.
Is it being underage? I think it might be being underage. I remember way back when, hearing similar complains about some dungeon crawlers like, "you don't see your characters do the attacks", and the like, mostly from kids and teens.
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>>582501347
People seem hard-pressed to find much value for her outside of accounts who don't have other stun options
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Remy looks like a whore and that she is but only in my bed.
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>>582501347
The only reason I'm considering pulling on her is to give me a stunner that isn't dialyn
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>>582501643
She's a dialyn/norma sidegrade. I'd only consider rolling her if you've only got 1 or less of the 2.
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>>582501617
>goes to jail
>Nangong is somehow his cellmate
>He feels scared for his rectum
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>>582501796
with me, while you watch
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>>582501639
>I remember when
Nobody cares
Shut the fuck up
Go be a little bitch somewhere else and come back when you take the dildo out of your ass
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Why is Belle so useless?
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>>582501639
You can't comprehend why people who want to play as a character are unsatisfied with their gameplay being "press one button and leave"?
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>check the PS5 ZZZ trophies
>Only 3% did the latest story chapter
>Only 2% did the first extraction

Holy dead game.
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The succubi of sanity
The fiend's of clarity
the demon's of reality
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>>582501643
>>582501851
>>582501885
I got plenty of stunners.
Guess it's best I skip Roxy.
Now I gotta decide on Claret but I'll do that tomorrow. I'm already on 60+ pity.
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roll who you like
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>Roll for who you like
>Every VH and meta unit
yep, checks out.
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eww a whale
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>>582502239
The only relevant stunners now are Dialyn and Norma, (Nangong is an anomaly larping as a stunner)
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>>582502262
I like every ZZZ character ever released.
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>>582502324
You don't understand, whales need to see big numbers. It makes them think they are actually good at the game.
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>>582501959
why do you look for excuses to be mad all the time
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>>582502262
I WOULD if they actually RAN CHARACTERS
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>>582502452
their threesomes must be quite hot.
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>>582502262
What makes you guys like voidhunters so much? Is it just the feeling of getting a special character?
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do I lose anything if I skip to 3.0 using the early access thing or do I need to read the entirety of chinaslop to get the free pyrois
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>>582502262
The problem is characters I like need characters I don't care for
>oh I'd love to roll for phoenix
>oh I don't really want velina or remielle but I guess I need at least velina
>promia would be a great add and give me a decent team with yuzu/nangong but I don't like her at all so those two are useless right now
>sunbringer is coming and if she needs a wind unit I'll kill myself for not rolling roxy
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>>582502683
Characters I like either need characters I don't give two shits about or characters I love are off-field supports for characters I don't give two shits about

Very hard to "roll for who I like" that way
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>>582502519
I (Wise) can confirm this
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>meta teams are composed of characters I don't personally like

Anon discovers team based gameplay
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>>582502674
you lose context and an idea of who the characters are
as someone who skipped after season 1 to 3 myself, and didn't watch the catchup cutscene they showed because i did want to experience it during season 2 itself later, it was honestly fine
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>>582502152
It's a retarded take both antithetical to game design, to this genre, AND to this game as a whole.
But this game actually goes above and beyond to accomodate your main DPStism, even supports get tools to play as main DPS in modes like Hollow Zero.
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>>582502683
>oh I'd love to roll for phoenix
>oh I don't really want velina or remielle but I guess I need at least velina
Actually sounds like my situation.
Surely someone will come up with alternative teams right? Since ZZZ is a game that allows for skill expression and many teams
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>have a non-stop new character new banner release schedule without any breaks
>be the hoyo game that re-runs characters the LEAST
as mandated by da wei that no pure rerun banner until kiana expy hits
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>>582502674
There's an unskippable (iirc?) recap cutscene when you start, if you mute that you can get Pyrois without spoiling too many details besides knowing some bad shit went down and then go back to chinaslop
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>>582498965
why is that spinning robot asshole watching
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>>582502910
>This p2w gameplay
>Game design
>Genre

Kekypow
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>>582503064
This response is so retarded I can only assume it's AI generated.
Like, even if you hated this game with all your soul it makes no sense. It's not even a tourist response, it's just bizarre.
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>>582502674
I don't think pyrois is really worth getting early unless you want to play zenkov a lot and you don't have much of a roster built up. Even then, it's not really worth the time skipping and backtracking. Story mode forces you into playing loaner characters and hollow zero/lost void gives you loaner options to play as much as you want too.
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>>582503215
>and you don't have much of a roster built up.
newbies dont particularly have a roster built up
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>>582503164
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>>582503183
Anon, everyone under 25 uses AI to browse and comment on this site. Why do you think people say the same things in these threads over and over again?
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>>582503183
NPC brain malfunctioning, I see.
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oh right certain modes allow you to play a lot of characters for free
except the ones that give out the most polycums
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>>582503297
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>>582500320
it works in genshin
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>>582503396
Yeah isn't that funny? The modes where you want loaner charas the most are the ones that dont give you them
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>>582503215
newbies need to do shiyu and DA
pyrois alone takes care of 1/3 of that, it's a huge and easy upgrade and you can pair him with some a ranks
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>>582503450
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>>582503396
Cuz they just want your money, lol. And better get the pokeballs too or else you won't get the scores for your gems.
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>>582503501
Newbies can’t do DA or Shiyu
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>>582503593
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Whatever happened to the friends function in this game
I remember adding a lot of people and now I can't find the friends button anymore?
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>>582501182
Smells of sweat and probably feet
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>>582503501
>newbies

They can't do shit. That's why this game gets barely anyone new. It takes forever to farm anything and they instantly notice how shit the old agents are in comparison to the new ones.
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>>582502978
Posed up like this Wise does match with Sunbringer.
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>>582503769
didnt they just upgrade one to be just below a "void hunter tier" lol
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>>582502234
These hags STINK
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>>582503728
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>>582503621
Newbies can use free Jane and Pyrois to get started on Shiyu within a few weeks
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>>582503297
>>582503450
This is my favorite romcom trope.
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>>582503621
...because they don't have agents? so they should get agents to be able to do it? what are you even trying to argue here, that they should ignore free time sensitive poly instead?

>>582503769
what do old vs new agents matter when pyrois is literally free and a new agent
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>>582503740
It's stuck away in the cellphone menu for some reason
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>>582503908
>Ignoring all the mats they need to farm and all the story they need to rush just to access the content
>Few weeks

By that time they already have dropped the game. Seen it countless times.
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>>582503987
Wow, literally one guy. A guy you need to access an end game mode to make him actually good. I really wonder why newbies just drop the game instead.
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I like how all this talk about end game implies that nothing else is enjoyable but end game and people would prefer to skip everything just to watch a video series on youtube to explain whats going on
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>Find a newbie guide tucked into some corner
>Free pick between two powercreeped agents I already have and a homo
wow thanks
that's so nice
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>>582504023
That's more because the early game is a nonsensical mess that dumps multiple anachronistic sidequests on your head with little explanation, and if they survive that they get a big helping of China-glazing magic mumbo jumbo killing the established vibe
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>>582504263
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reminder if your team cannot clear adversity 3 stars in the first week of gaming, you CANNOT have fun with this game
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>>582504241
I guess you have to pick Hugo and wait for his potential unlock.
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Why are there like 5 ZZZ uncs posting in /wowfg/
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>>582504210
>Put most of the free currency and pyrois' upgrades behind the end game meta fest
Why do people talk about the end game so much?

Truly an enigma
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>>582503183
NTA but swapslop is just a a culmination of multiple shitty practices. they dont have to design as much of a character, they dont have to stress about performance or balancing around multiple characters on screen at once and it incentivizes people to pull multiple units to make the "team" work. its not good. its not fun. its lazy, lame and greedy. there is nothing "better" about swapslop and you could keep the swap AND have the whole team on field if the devs were so inclined. but they aren't.
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>>582504483
I'm just happy I can full clear thr 4th stage of Shiyu Defense in under a month of restarting the game.
I do wish there was like... a free Astra or something. Poor Rina can only be in one team at a time.
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>>582504505
>Taking a homo
Never ever
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>>582502864
>My best team is also my 3 fav characters
I feel privileged
>>582503183
You are being deliberately flamed by an indian shitposter whose only objective is to shit up this place anon.
>>582502958
Just get her if you like her anon. I got Remie without Velina and its fine
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>>582504728
Wifebringer.
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>>582504542
I don’t think most people enjoy other modes or events.
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>>582504602
Astra is busted, she still has a role in a couple of strong end game teams.
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>>582504523
Establishing dominance.
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talking about loaner characters
why does the game not give loaner charas to people for farming stages
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>>582502262
>roll for who you like
>who you like is dogshit without 2 characters you don't like
The game is flawed.
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>>582504602
lucy and soukaku are your free astra
but only madmen like me invest in soukacute
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>>582504856
See I'd love Astra If she was on rate up right now but I only restarted in 2.7 so I don't have her...
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>>582504672
What is Jufufu doing there? She looks lost.
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Opinions on Phoenix' EYES?
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>>582505387
I think they're cute.
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>>582502262
>roll who you like
>he says while M6'ing every giga meta void hunters and only getting M2 at most on non VH, non-standard banner characters
okay guy
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>>582505338
Better than Trigger in that slot. 2 Attackers with Fufu is arguably her BIS. Same goes for SAnby +Orphie btw.
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fufu, i have a new technique to show you, just bend over right here
>wait a minute, this isn't a yunkui technique
>this is anal sex!
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What if slowed down powercreep and HP bloat, released new characters at a slower pace but increased reruns?
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>>582505706
Dead game
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>>582505706
A new class and new elements does that, the only power creep so far is Norma, Sigrid and Phoenix.
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What if agents get visibly sweatier the longer they're in combat?
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>>582505835
Doesn't phoenix need two other characters to be good? Does she really count as powercreep?
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>>582500719
ᗜˬᗜ
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>>582505854
then i will need a mechanic to wipe down or bathe my agents after battle
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What is this autist's problem?
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>>582488750
>Weird that nobody ever shilled her
She had her time in the sun, but her popularity just didn't have legs past her patch. Don't misunderstand though. She's one of the better 3.0 agents and did receive a lot of fanart, but that doesn't stop her from fading into the background where most other ZZZ characters exist and where almost all gacha characters end up: the "mostly forgotten until a short cameo or new outfit" bin. Some characters avoid that fate based purely on design (Ellen), promotion (AOD), or story importance (VHs)
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>>582506056
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>>582492948
>jew with the power of a crematorium
really makes you think
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so when will they start getting to giving out buffs to 2.0 characters like alice or fufu
I really would like some on Alice since I think she's really fun to play
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>>582505895
she doesn't really cuck Burnice they have different rolls so maybe not
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>>582506167
>trigger has a physical disability
>soldier 11 is overly stoic
>magus lost her body while orphie is a novice
>seed is a psycho
obol squad's fucked up but still one of my favorites, except for seed
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this is how little they care about roxy
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>>582506429
Are you forgetting someone?
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>>582506413
Gute Scherz
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>>582506758
Well, her entire kit was changed to the point she has no functional 4p set. That's an actual first.
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is roxy really that bad but i want to cum playing as her
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>>582506871
Why?
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>>582506887
will the numbers prevent you from cumming or what
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>>582506901
Wants 40% energy regen from sets to max her core passive, and none of the 4p work with her. One needs you to be a support, she is a stunner, the other wants chain attacks or ultimates. Sure she's doing 1 or 2 ults but no chain attacks.

Effectively the first char that's gonna build 2p 2p 2p. Which is way worse than any Attacker coping with Woodpecker.
Tiger set might still be a good thing to build regardless though. It's worthless for Claret, but otherwise it's good.
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>no Bangboo
>unique specialty so you have to get her engine
>competing with 40 other electric main dps
>dyke-coded
>hard to play burst dps
>need m1w1 Rina
>cant use Sunna or the other good Supports
>BIS stunner is a side grade to Norma
>Roxy runs 2/2/2 needs like 100% crit rate and 3500 attack or bricked
lesbros we losted so hard...
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>>582507079
>Effectively the first char that's gonna build 2p 2p 2p
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>>582507079
They really hate her...
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>>582506887
she is built for sweaty tryharding among other things
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>>582507136
I can 3-star Kusarikku with the Seed-Cissia team making it look even worse for her.
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>>582507079
energy regen? it says it scales off crit rate unless there's an unmentioned part somewhere
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>>582507491
full version
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>>582507179
I ran 2p2p2p with her until Dialyn.
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>>582506229
Do old characters not get scenes of substance in event stories here? I played Genshin more, where long-obsolete 5-stars and even random 4-star characters often play pivotal roles in events, and I expected that to also be the case in other Hoyo properties
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>>582507284
>Seed-Cissia
You don't even need the Electric Void Hunter duo.
I got 32k with Harumasa.
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>>582507179
You can woodpecker just fine.
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>>582504867
This is like the third time I see this image but what is it actually saying
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>a stoic lesbian who works as an accessory to her other faction member is forced to run a 2p2p2p due to not having a set
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>>582507658
She was present in the beach event last patch. People just like to doom for no reason.
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So close yet so far, no matter how many times I attempt the fight I always end up with this same score. It might be over for me
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>>582507136
Apel used 4pc astral and 2pc energy instead of bothering with three 2pc sets to reach the same number of stuns.
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>>582507491
The worst part is after all the nerfs, the big gimmick she had with the wind energy and shit no longer matters. All her damage and daze is in her spin to win, the rest does basically nothing.

It's a hilariously incompetent kit.
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>>582507869
>no matter how many times I attempt the fight I always end up with this same score
It's so fucking funny how often it happens to me
>25k (example)
>change discs
>25k
>change rotation
>25k
>retry like 5 more times
>randomly get 28k once and never again and i have no idea why
>retry like 5 more times chasing that random freak run with no success
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am I crazy to think that Velina does a decent amount of daze for what she does?
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>>582508108
It's genuinely insane, I'll have a run that I feel like is going really well and then it ends up being the same 25k.
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>strongest stunner
>uses old set
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I want to drink Belle's pee
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>>582508350
That's not the way though, as she can't provide QA, and Astral 2p is ATK if I remember it right. So you nerf her stun buildup and gain.. nothing.

Either you tiger 4p, or you don't 4p.
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Teaching Sunna the Kamehameha
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i fucking hate this gay ass nigger roguelike mode like it takes fucking 10 years to kill some nigger for a gold ball then i get to 400k and this nigger starts to come rape me so i run away and i still need 600k for the upgrade and my equipment is about to break so i have to farm that shit and make fucking more its so fucking stupid
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>>582508556
6% daze is pointless there isn't a worse 4pc for her
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>>582508806
you run KotS for the 30% crit DMG squad buff
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>>582508806
10% atk is even more pointless, and she herself gets 30% crit damage and all her allies as well. The daze at least offsets the impact loss.
Astral is a full on retarded idea, sorry.

tiger or full 2p.
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double blowjob from ellen and koleda
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Why didn't Trigga try to rape Wise when he was a prisoner at their camp in S2?
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>>582508691
You are supposed to backstab with Pyrois, then use an etheric phantom. This kills most things in seconds.
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Finished upgrading my characters after returning and went to try out Shiyu with my outdated characters from 2.x because I quit before seed was released and wanted to see if all my shit was powercreeped out of existence

Got to 4th stage just mashing buttons but did they reduce the number of nodes in this shit? I could have sworn this mode had 7~8 nodes and was NOT 3 team bullshit.
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>>582507217
Odd, Norma's kit feels more complex and it can use Astral

Talking about Astral; god I hate that disc set so much, I only just started using it for Claret and not being able to see the buff duration is ass, even more than usual.
I don't want to keep looking and calculating with the stage timer man.
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>>582488750
We all thought she was gonna be Fufu'd and didn't get too attached.
Also Dracie mogs.
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I love Hoshimi Miyabi
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>>582508917
tiger 2pc would be terrible because she's low impact and most of her daze multipliers are well over 100%
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>>582509128
>Make a mode for endless combat and content
>Best way to play is to skip the combat
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>>582509401
The mode for endless combat is Tower.
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>>582508691
Why are you running from the doge? Dodge two attacks, parry the big hit, do that twice and it fucks off and then you can keep grabbing loot
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Phoenix!

Opinions on her thus far??
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>>582508143
Reactions in general cause some daze.
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>>582509683
She looks cool, but I don't need more anomaly agents.
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>>582509756
what if she was just a fire attacker
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>>582509683
good with remielle or vellina, kinda a brick without either of them.
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>>582509486
I need to pinch her etheric cheeks
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>Cunning Hares vs Section 6
>Obol Squad vs Yunkui Summit

Which season had the better standoff scene?
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>>582509683
Best animations so far this season.
Dress is kinda hoyoshit but it's not censored so it's hotter than most.
Velina merchant so she's a skip.

Skin was a fake ig
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>>582509796
I don't want to abandon Evelyn yet. Plus Sunbringer is going to basically be that anyway. Phoenix is fine as she is, I just don't need her on my account.
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>>582505582
At least post one of her numerous pictures of her presenting anon
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>>582510064
i don't even remember obol vs yunkui but it's better that i don't think of things from that season
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>>582507613
I'm starting to hate this trend of non attacker units needing full stat spreads just to provide buffs instead of being powerful by themselves.
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>>582510064
Obol squad showed up and asked about the proxy then Yi Xuan said "I solo nodiff obsidian trust me bro" while doing gang signs and Magus just went "ok"
There was no standoff and there was nothing to fight over, nobody was taking the proxy prisoner.
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>>582510064
>>Obol Squad vs Yunkui Summit
when did that happen again?
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I think this game is atrocious at explaining gameplay related things
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>>582510070
>not censored
They still have time, just look at Norma.
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I think Sunna is atrocious at giving blowjobs
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>>582509683
She's great!
I really want this current patch to go by faster so I can finally get her.
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>>582510158
>sunbringer
>fire
we already had a sneak preview with remi's demo
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I was struggling in DA this week but I cleaned up disc drive substats and worked on maxing out some important skills (I still have 19 hamster cages) and the difference was 8k-10k points.
Skill my ass, if you have Claret with 25+ sub stat roles and 12 in basic attack you can unga to 32k with ease.
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>>582510190
Why do people hate S2? It's still better than the trash we've been getting in S3
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>>582510206
I think it's fine if you can hit the stat caps with disks.

What sucks is that Attackers/Ruptures can juggle 3 stats with relative ease and change their disc 4 if they're overloaded in CR or CD substats.

Anomaly and Armorer only has 1 truly valuable stat (AP/CR), the others are good but don't compare in large amounts.

Stunners/Supports straight up only have 1 usable stat, 2 if you count flat ATK for Yuzu and Sunna
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I don't like this guy's chances...
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>>582510473
2.5 was just that bad
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>>582510434
Pretty sure her Main scales with EX
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>>582510473
chinaslop almost killed the game
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>>582505338
being the cutest
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>>582510495
it's fine, i'm sure claret will just put him to sleep gently
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>>582510479
AP and ATK% are pretty close on most anomaly agents.
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>>582510473
Because Yunkyi summit is an infectious cancer

>Better than S3
No, only the filler was good and 2.7+ is just part of S3
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>>582510665
If you got 25 AP rolls and no ATK ones you're fine, if you got no AP you're cooked
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>>582510757
Why?
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>>582509286
Criminal what they did to fufu
Such a cute character did not deserve that fate
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>>582510665
I honestly have no idea to this day how anomaly damage is calculated. How much ATK and how much AP I should want.
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>>582510870
Deserved for xianxia chinkslop.
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>>582510995
But the one guilty of xianxia slop was yixuan
Fufu was the only saving grace of that awful story
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How strong are these Reduce RES M1s all the top stunners seem to have?
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>>582511243
Nice to have but not worth 80 pulls. Mindscapes in this game suck dick except Yidhari and Shifu's M1.
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>>582511307
>Mindscapes in this game suck dick
dont a lot of charas have good M2s
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>>582510495
NO CLARET
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Fu
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>>582496713
>I have literally never played another gacha in my life
I don't think this is something to be proud of.
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>>582510473
S3 might be a fucking telenovela and it might blatantly disregard tons of establish lore, and it might treat it's returning cast like shit...
But China did all of that, did it worse, and committed even MORE crimes. S3 would have to up the ante on shitting the bad by a factor of 3 before it can match up to Yunkuislop or Obolslop
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>>582507658
>Do old characters not get scenes of substance in event stories here?
>long-obsolete 5-stars and even random 4-star characters often play pivotal roles in events
Sure, old ZZZ characters from another patch come back at important moments to offer a bit of help or some dialogue (same patch characters get priority). If the devs really are trying to push them, then they are given a pet-like status or maybe are even briefly playable for a mission. But you know that's not really enough to surge their popularity again on its own, especially not to secondaries or normalfags. Only viral memes or strong dev shilling could do that
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>>582512120
>S3 might be a fucking telenovela and it might blatantly disregard tons of establish lore, and it might treat it's returning cast like shit...
This guy is living in an alternate world.
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>>582512120
>it might treat it's returning cast like shit...
it doesn't
the bigger problem is how it treats its new cast
velina barely exists
sigrid barely exists
roxy barely exists and even claret isn't that big of a deal
all that just to shill remielle and the sunbringers
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>>582511410
Vast majority are just number get bigger. But it's better than hiding half a character's kit or combos behind them.

I don't feel that many mindscapes are worth pulling for, but at the same time I don't feel like I am missing out as a low spender.
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I liked Obol Squad part of S2 but I didn't like how Soldier 11 was basically a background NPC with no more than 5 lines, in the plotline with traitors and commanders taking in bribes left and right you'd expect her to chime in from time to time
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>>582513001
Obol got fucked over. They didn't even get Lost Void gear.
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>>582513001
I think Seed is really sexy
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>>582510473
I'm going through it right now and I'm pretty displeased about the endless word soup repeating things that were just said, OP Chinawank character swooping in to solve every problem with magic, and terrible indecipherable translations in multiple sidequests
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>>582513001
S11 didn't even get to be a part of the non-voiced equipment maintenance thing, and if you played back then there was a combat event where they thought to make an excuse as to why Anby was hanging out training with them and how they all made up some lie to keep S11 distracted elsewhere.
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S2 story was such a joke
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Why does Severian stand on his sword?
Why does he even have a sword?
Why can't the police officer use a FUCKING GUN?!

Zhu Yuan is cooler than the majority of the boring characters in this game.
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I think Sunbringer will be special electric. Eldredra has a bolt like seams on the side of her leotard.
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>>582513326
You are asking about the sword and not the magical demon ghost arm that he uses for 1 move?
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>>582513370
He doesn't even use it. He sits on it. Probably sits right on a finger.
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>>582513350
wrong shes frost armorer
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>>582513350
She's a new element AND a new class.
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>>582513350
She'll be fire stunner but a DPS
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>>582513186
CONTACT MISSING OUR GREY FOX
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>>582513413
See, it's so fucking pointless that you missed the one basic where he does use it.
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>>582510473
Season 3 is much better from a story standpoint but season 2 was MUCH better from a gameplay standpoint. It's actually impressive how they will waste another patch on the boring Velina comp. As much as I like Phoenix I'm really not looking forward to more of this.
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>>582513326
>Zhu Yuan is cooler than the majority of the boring characters in this game.
Zhu tards are always the ones that hate the game. Don't know why
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>>582513554
I'd rather punch shit with ghost claws than use the dumb sword
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>>582513601
They gave up on gameplay after Banyue flopped.

They totally gave it a fair try by giving the combo kit to the weakest-in-class robot male with a 2 week banner before the VH.
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>>582513617
He says as he posts a character so boring her entire NEW CLASS is just S Anby's mechanic
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>Robo dudes and dogboy gets kino animations
>Catboy bishie gets a moveset that is 90% speedster *disappear and reappear* slop
Guys, I think they don't like Severian.
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>>582513753
Sigrid has gameplay tho
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>>582513759
Anby was cooler
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>>582513797
I was looking forward to him, but the animations are just dogshit.
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>>582510473
>Yunkui faction barely explores the whole organization
>Waifei didn't have the same charm as S1 maps
>No new comissions
>Not even new comissions to test your new found powers, it's all MSQ
>Waifei residents not posting interknot comissions, while 7th street gave us some of the best side quest comission in the game
>Spook Schack and Obol didn't mesh well with the region, unlike S1 with police, construction workers, truckers and fixers meshing well with urban theme.
Yeah no, name 5 good things from season 2 that improve zzz, i fucking dare you
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>>582513828
cool BA mechanics but garbage animations and her EX is boring
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Is Caesar really that bad? I got her now. I'm leaving her in my loss pool because would love to have her naked namecard some day.
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>>582513909
Everyone thirsting over Sweety and they barely tried to turn her into Venus 2.0 by having her directly give us several commissions.

No a menu screen for the Idle event that's technically her doesn't count.
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*tingle* *tingle*
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>mfw they abandoned the newspaper updates

The game has no soul. They just toss aside everything a patch or two later. Outposts do nothing. Co-op likely abandoned.
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Your date for the evening!

Questions?
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the worst part of s2 for me was the furry shit
zzz is literally the sole game in the market right now that one day woke up and decided "we want the furry audience"
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>>582513874
Yeah. Even Pyrois' speedster animations were concentrated to his EBA (which DESU, you want to use as much as possible, meaning you see those animations), but here Severian's entire animation kit seems to be concentrated around those.
There is also a feeling of schizophrenia in his kit since he is an attacker who focus on defensive gameplay. Imo, he should have been DPS defender like Ben Bigger.
Now, I feel like I treated Claret's animations too harshly, especially after trying her out in LV and seeing all of her post-attacks poses.
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>>582513984
>defense agent
>but main stat is impact
>off-field agent that wants to be on-field dealing no damage
>anti-interrupt buff is pointless if you're not a shitter
She was usable when you needed to survive to climb the tower, back when it was new.
But then new better characters came out and caesar was instantly discarded.
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>>582514132
>the newspaper updates
we aren't on the sixth street at the moment, bwo
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>>582514161
>literally two furries in 1.0
Yah, that day was day 1.
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>>582514336
I'm not even going to explain why you are a retarded cunt.
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How come I can't replay story missions from S2 and 3 like I can in S1 with the HDD?
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>>582514189
>There is also a feeling of schizophrenia in his kit since he is an attacker who focus on defensive gameplay
No, the fact that he's constantly zooming around is what makes sense that he uses the movement to also dodge the enemy attacks.
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>>582514382
None of those were a literal furry rat though and quite literally everyone forgot all of those existed
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>>582513984
That shit just mean "you can't have 65 000 points with those". I had 3 stars Thrall with my usual Silly/Pulchra/Caesar on the first try.
You only need 20K on DA, the 45K other points are there for vanity.
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No more fun
No more soul

Silver Palace waiting room.
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>>582514526
the only upcoming game I give two shits about is promilia
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>>582514161
Holy tourist
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>>582514595
furshit will never belong
maybe try a different hobby
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>>582514581
How lewd is that game going to be?
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>>582514526
>those two
>fun
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>>582514382
Isn't interknot the deepweb?
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Pyrosis' chain attack makes me cum
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>>582514660
Lycaon has like 50 collabs broski
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>>582514161
>zzz is literally the sole game in the market right now that one day woke up and decided "we want the furry audience"
I am that audience. I literally started playing because of the Zhao give-away
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>>582514684
No.
The proxy part is kinda ("I'm behind a dozen vpns"), but the regular internknot is just the regular internet.
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>>582514796
Good thing they noticed that furries are subhumans and decided to go back to appealing to actual real players
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>>582513001
>s3 ends with Obol being called on site to protect civilians
>a white text on black screen explains S11 was killed on duty a few weeks ago and they are opening a spot for a new recruit which leads to hilarious jokes moments with seed and orphie.
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>>582515180
S11 mentioned!
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>>582514702
>Make a super fun DPS
>Make him and his Mindscapes/W-Engines FREE
S4 will be the Pyrois anti-meta.
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>>582512120
>it might blatantly disregard tons of establish lore
Name one thing they disregarded or retconned, let alone blatantly
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>>582515337
Does the outer ring has vidya?
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>they didn't do S11's final trust event where it's revealed that "S11" dies during every other mission and is replaced by a fresh clone which is why she can't remember your name well
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>>582515308
Im pretty sure the goal with the etheric others will be so that all newbies can eventually have a team to get a basic end game clear
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Phoenix will flop on my dick
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>>582515460
Ah yes, the destroy all humans gimmick
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>>582515460
S11 is a one of a kind defect or the Clank of the Anby clones, not Anby herself.
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>>582515460
they already revealed that in anby's agent story dumbass
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>>582515485
>all the soulful animations went to Velina's slave
Being a coolguy enjoyer is painful...
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>>582515665
Bro, your Starlight Billy? Your goat? Your realest trendsetter?
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>>582516110
They raped his bike mode and his animations are really bad. He is fun to play though.
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>>582515485
Magikarp magikarp
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is there anyone in a position of authority in this game that isn't a fucking psychopath
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>>582516314
Damian, the Mayor presumably, Koleda, Alice and her gramp, Zhao's boss.
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>>582516314
It's a post apoc setting anon, there's probably only 10 million humans left on hollowfied earth
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>>582515665
Just delete Velina from the game atp
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Its simple :
Your character's animations has a lot of pizzazz? The team gives a fuck about them?
If they don't? Well, too bad for you!
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>>582516314
Caesar's too dumb to be evil
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The UI in this game is so bad and confusing
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>>582516762
which is why lucy the evil bitch is the one running soc
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Reminder phoenix changed your future forever
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The Dawngazer has a lot of furries that I wish were in ZZZ.
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They won.
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>>582516710
Define pizzaz
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>>582509683
Phoenix thiren
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>>582517541
Look it up.
>>582517621
She is actually a mut*nt
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>>582517238
Phoenix more important for(you) than Remielle KEK
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>>582517670
Dark Phoenix rises.
Xfactors
Wins game
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>>582517238
she gave Belle lesbian AIDS.....
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>>582517797
She actually got nerfed in anno domini 2026
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>>582517238
nothingburger cliffhanger
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They should have had five Sunbringers.
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>>582518343
Cunnybringer
Hebebringer
Expiredbringer
Ogbringer
Tomboybringer?
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>>582518343
Everyone in Roscaelifer should've been a Sunbringer.
>Nurse Sunbringer
>Teacher Sunbringer
>Cop Sunbringer
>Male Sunbringer
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>>582518343
Coolguybringer is a must.
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Light Sunbringer
Dark Sunbringer
Feaux Sunbringer
Real Sunbringer
Rich Sunbringer
Poor Sunbringer
House Sunbringer
Field Sunbringer
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>>582518452
>BAbringer
>Dodgebringer
>Exbringer
>Parrybringer
>Ultimatebringer
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>>582518465
>Roscaelifer would be ninety percent Bangboo and ten percent different Sunbringer clones / baby Enchainers.
Would've been kino desu
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Orgy with Sunbringer!
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>>582518898
Kill yourself
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>>582518465
Male Sunbringer is Joyous
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zzz would be fixed overnight if hoyo hired limbus writers
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>>582519513
Yeah, and Sonic would get fixed if they added momemtum!
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>>582519513
Lol
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>>582518842
What about Trustbringer?
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>>582519906
Secret side with Core SkillBringer
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Phoenix is already more SOVLful with just her dodge animations than either of the Flint Workshop dykes.
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>>582520107
I need to add this weirdo to my collection.
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Why did they do it bros
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>>582517238
I'd take that omen seriously if ZZZ's story was actually something that was written and constructed and thought out far in advance, instead of something that they adlib from patch to patch.
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>>582513984
>Is Caesar really that bad?
She is probably going to be key to help my C6 Shunguang clear DA adversity with ease.
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>>582520107
Its insane how people barely cared about Phoenix and all eyes were on Claret.
And then, Phoenix gets introduced.
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>>582520304
>can't even clear with two brand new characters on their shill boss
Are fanartists really this bad at the game?
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Phoenix is basically Dr. B from Tekken.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i26D1uUEkNU
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What stats does Remielle want?
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>>582520539
Oh wait, we already have Zhao for that.
Ooops.
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>>582520850
Porque no los dos?
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>>582520778
Adversity.
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Artist released the original frames for this
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Juvy_iukWTgdlwQGidcmxWdjxwuS7x8e
https://x.com/akaoni2gou/status/2104129582727385330
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>>582520709
>And then, Phoenix gets introduced.
No. Happened far earlier.
More like "And then Claret gets introduced". This happened as early as her beta leaks. We saw just how uninspired she was in all fronts and how half-baked her design and animations were, and how she could have been so much more, as I already outlined just a few threads ago (>>582464960).
That's not even taking into account the baffling character model issue she had that pretty much EVERYONE in the community was critical about that for some reason none of the character modelers Mihoyo thought was a problem.
Kana Ueda is completely wasted on her.
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>>582519513
Writing is working rn, we need to hire a new animation, design and gameplay design team
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>>582520889
jsdfi ghh eryherg
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>>582496920
If Piper has high energy in bed like in combat then I doubt she'd be down there.
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>>582520107
Shame you'll mostly be looking at Velina's animations when playing her
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>>582521108
Claret isn't a vampire bro, she should've been done better but she is no bat woman.

The main animations shouldn't been a GS-like charged attack.
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>>582521342
Promeia is the one who gives me batman vibes.
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>>582521440
She is Moon Knight.
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>>582521440
Bat woman as in nosferatu that transforms into bats n shit, she actually is batman as in the comicbook character with an overpowered butler
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>>582510064
The first one. Mary Xue wasn't even a real standoff.
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>>582521556
Magic is a taboo in /zzz/ and you want transformations and shit?
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Trigger or Koleda for Claret? I already have trigger leveled is Koleda good enough upgrade?
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>>582521909
Both are good
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>>582521909
Standards are trash. Don't bother. Funnily enough the only one worth using now is Nekomata if you have several mindscapes.
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>>582521876
I am not the one asking for them bro
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>>582521909
Trigger can use Astral so probably stick to her if you have her engine.
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>>582521968
>>582521986
>>582522071
Thanks, I'll just run trigger then
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>Severian has this animation where he sits on this giant phantom hand

Why isn't this phantom hand a part of his combat animations? You know, like a male Bayonetta with phantom punches and kicks extending from his boring-ass sword swings?
Or like Nero from DMC5. Mihoyo CLEARLY knows who Nero is considering that they have two characters that rip off his concept (Soldier 0 and Manato). Why not rip off of his Devil Trigger hand attacks by making it so that Severian has phantom hands slashing after each sword swing?

What the fuck are they thinking with this character? Why is it so uninspired? It's like they designed his moveset in 5 minutes and didn't want to dedicate any more time to it.
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>>582522285
>>582513554
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this woman is gonna zucc me out
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>>582506229
>Blonde nanoda loli
>Somehow not popular
Something is wrong with hoyo communities, just wrong. This would have been explosively popular in other games I'm playing.
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>>582522310
It's animated too fast that I could barely see it. And considering that that other anon missed it as well, it means I'm not the only one with this issue.
Plus, it also shouldn't just one used only once (1 time) in his entire kit when he could have an entire moveset based around his control of this phantom creature. Again, like a male Bayonetta.
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How are her horns attached?
Is it safe to use them as handlebars?
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>>582522704
>Again, like a male Bayonetta.
Then were is the Gunfu?
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>>582512596
Only for the Sunbringer shilling to backfire because the Sunbringers they shilled so far aren't even playable.
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>>582522852
If they ever want to have an actual Bayonetta expy (meaning a female agent who fights like Bayonetta) in the future, there's nothing stopping them. Again, going back to Nero, we already have two different agents (Soldier 0 and Manato) both lifting off of him in different ways.
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Lindverne's design looks a lot like Melia's from Xenoblade FC.
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>>582520823
Atk and AP, nothing else.
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>>582523114
Technically, a lot of characters are composites of more popular characters.
S11 has a bit of Nero, yes, but she is functionally the Ken to Anby's Ryu.
Manato is basically Josuke x Bleach x Nero × Sol Badguy.
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>>582522704
>It's animated too fast
Yes, that's his issue. There's actually 1 or 2 more like the start of his EX being a claw slash, but it's all so fast and weightless that you can't tell what's happening. At the very least his Ult should've been claw focused.
>Bayonetta
He's Nero. Dialyn is Bayonetta.
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>>582522285
>why is the designated skip banner low effort
Next you'll ask me why claret's 3d model wasn't fixed or why roxy has a bricked kit. They are filler banners sent out to die. Their only purpose is to fill space between the real characters.
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>>582497362
why would a robot have a puffy vulva
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>>582522767
Those are her super antennas, you're going to disrupt her signal to the bangboos!!!
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>>582523313
I dunno man, sounds like just bad business to me. If Mihoyo wants to make money, maybe they shouldn't have these designated "skip banners" (as you put it). Putting all your eggs in 1 (or even 2) baskets is a very bad idea.
>>582523278
I did mention earlier that he could have been like Nero's Devil Trigger form in DMC5. If they slowed down his animations (or at least the very least make the phantom arms linger longer on screen and be bigger), that would look way better.
Or maybe make it so that one of his attacks (EX, dodge attack, whatever) doesn't involve ANY sword swinging at all. Right now nothing about his animations feels distinct. It all feels like a messy flurry of sword swings. No pronounced impacts here and there with emphasized key poses.
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Also, it's so strange how Phoenix (a physically frail girl who can has like zero energy to do anything) has way more pronounced hitstop/impact frames on her burning sword swings than Severian, a giant dude who could probably wrestle ogres with his bare hands.
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>>582523849
>Phoenix (a physically frail girl who can has like zero energy to do anything)
Second strongest Krampus after their boss btw
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>>582523849
phoenix has dev love
severian doesn't
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>>582523937
>Second strongest
>Demoted to Veli/Remi support
isnt it sad
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>[Anomaly] specialty Agents' ATK increases by 20%, and Fire and Wind Anomaly Buildup Rate increases by 15%.
lol
lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tE3llvk8-tA
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>>582523849
Severian couldn't even wrestle Zhao
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Imagine wrestling Zhao.
Just imagine.
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Wrestling Zhao and accidentally snapping her neck
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Got the HSR trashcan
The toilets and gold poop is trash only right? or is it high risk only?
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>>582523114
We got Dialyn minus the Gunfu.
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You're wandering around Scamall Hollow when a goat gives you this look.
Wwyd?
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>>582488538
cute feet
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>>582524709
Look at her with visible disgust, say "EW, UGLY!" out loud and walk away.
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>>582523667
non-VHs don't sell regardless of how much effort they put into them, and making two high quality agents per patch is much too time intensive to justify, so they've given up, even tho it drags the overall quality of the game down. 1.4 and its consequences have been a disaster for ZZZ
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>>582524586
And we have a Gunfu character... If only Hoyo buffed her
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>>582523849
Different animation teams, I think.
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>>582524024
>>582523937
she's nerfed by team battle. she clearly can't go full shooting start and melt the area if there are bystanders
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god I want to fuck Norma's brains out until she turns retarded
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>>582525505
She's already retarded though
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phoenix's ult got updated like 50 times meanwhile severian's still looks retarded
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>>582524709
I report her to the immigration authorities. Thirens don't belong in Roscaelifer, except Mr Roar.
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>>582525505
she's probably already made a tentacle rape vore bangboo that slurps her up, destroys her holes, and spits her out onto the floor in a puddle of goo
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>>582523667
>If they slowed down his animations
It's funny because his only slow animation (the chain attack) is probably one of the worst ones. He looks like he's meant to leap forward but he just goes straight up and then falls straight down into that standing-on-sword pose... Looks so awkward.
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>>582525783
Mihoyo saw that Severian wasn't doing enough sword slashes in his moveset, so they had him do an additional sword slash at the end of his ult.
Watch as he gets another sword slash in a few days when his moveset gets updated.
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>>582525783
they invest more money in whatever makes them more profit
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>>582523149
Looked up Melia first and holy shit what a glow up because the results before including "FC" looked horrendous

>>582525328
How do they rotate though?

It's not a 1st vs 2nd phase thing.
Roxy has limited animations because of her role but they're really solid, no speedster bs, same with Norma.
Claret otoh is just a flying VFX trail on all her good moves.

Maybe they get 1st phase+2nd phase of next patch and rotate; Sigrid and Claret being the same team as Severian while Roxy and Phoenix are a separate one makes sense but I highly doubt those that made Sbilly made Velina.
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>>582523094
I seriously wonder how the fuck they're going to make Eldreda beloved to the point it makes it worth not having the other two playable with their own sets of trusts/quality time. Especially with how bad she looks for Roscaeflier being invaded
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>>582526404
Summer skins sell that poorly?
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>>582526462
So far she straight us seems responsible for the invasion and not any less evil than the OGbringer, meanwhile Dracie and especially Lind are glazed by Remi herself
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>>582525505
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlxWo1ogftA
His gameplay looks sped up lol
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>>582526462
bigger looming threat, it was a necessary evil, etc etc is my guess
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>>582526404
>they invest more money in whatever makes them more profit
People need to stop looking at companies as these 4D chess organizations that make perfect machine calculations for maxing out profits at all times.
Sometimes (or, rather, oftentimes) they just make utterly retarded decisions. Nothing about fully relying on VH banners for like 90 percent of your annual income is in any way rational.
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>>582526404
Why are they still adding males then
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>>582526909
I want a save patch thank you
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>>582526909
so that every time they release one, people can go spend money on their other gachas
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>>582526892
Nah AAA companies and multibillion media businesses never fail nor completely miss what their costumers actually want
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>>582526892
the nature of a gacha is to make money
the average person is not amiable to the idea of constantly spending money every patch, because standard gacha currency income wouldn't allow them to roll every banner
and if every banner was a hit, that would mean gameplay has to match pace and powercreep would skyrocket (there are plenty of gachas who follow this much faster pace of void-hunter level releases)
so the approach of intentionally having subjective downtime banners does make more sense, fosters player retention, and periodically allows players to focus on their other games then return to spend money when they may not have been as focused on this game
though i do agree that they are absolutely stupid and misguided at times but i chalk that up to dev nepotism pushing characters
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>>582526447
>How do they rotate though?
How I am supposed to know. But I am pretty sure the one who made Severian also made Jane and in terms of swift slashes.
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>>582527606
Jane only goes speedster for her extra dodge though
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>>582527684
The few cuts that Severian does in non-speedster mode feels like hers to me.
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>>582527587
You're definitely brown.
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forsen said roxy is bait
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>>582527587
Theory and practice. There's a difference between the theory of "downtime banners" (which is a good idea for the reasons you've explained) and actual practice of "skip banners" (which is how it is in ZZZ). And the reason why it's leaned towards the latter in ZZZ is for two reasons:

1. Their balancing favors VH agents. VH agents are always a 100 percent surefire bet in terms of being able to clear endgame content for at least the next year.
2. Their lack of care in designing a big chunk of non-VH agents like Severian, Claret and Roxy.

There is no reason why you CAN'T have "downtime banners" while still working to reduce the imbalances introduced in point #1 and putting in more care in point #2 to get players to spend more on non-VH banners. They don't HAVE to make AS MUCH money as VH banners, but they shouldn't be banners that every one agrees will be among the worst selling banners of all time (the way Claret has, and the way Roxy and Severian definitely will be as well).
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>forsen
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>Roxy doesn't power creep norma! SKIP SKIP!
I love how people are basically forcing ZZZ devs to constantly make powercreeping characters and don't even realize it.
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But I'm skipping Roxy because she looks like shit, her animations are shit and her rotation is shit. I wouldn't even care if she was lower tier. Why do you think so many people still pulled Jane Doe as their free anniversary agent even though she's weak? It's because they love her and because she still looks great (visuals and animations).
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>>582528529
>Their balancing favors VH agents. VH agents are always a 100 percent surefire bet in terms of being able to clear endgame content for at least the next year.
But Remielle is underpowered without Velina. Miyabi didn't have this problem before they tried to powercreep her.
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>>582529164
>But I'm skipping Roxy
you and everyone else
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>>582529237
>But Remielle is underpowered without Velina.
This is untrue. I have remielle m2w1 without velina and I'm clearing 40k easy with alice and jane m0.
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Is there seriously no way to get S rank equipment blueprints in bagel other than spamming suicide runs?
This shit sucks
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>>582529589
>>582529589
>>582529589
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>>582529237
Velina is essentially an honorary VH with how futureproof and essential her kit is for anomaly teams. No other non-VH character has this much insane bang-for-your-buck value.
She's basically the equivalent of Helena in Azur Lane. Not an Ultra Rare rarity girl, but might as well be an Ultra Rare girl with how insanely useful she is for buffing teams. She's one of like 2-3 non-UR girls out of literally hundreds of non-UR girls that are always teamed with UR fleets.
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>>582528529
i think the wide disparity is a matter of difficulty gauging player (and potential players') reception to a character
even when a design is a knockout, the gameplay needs to match to truly draw in the big bucks and no dev can fully gauge when a design will take off the most so they instead force them to
if they bank less on the big catch and spread the love, it gets riskier because the big catch might not be appealing enough in the end and it's harder to depend on the lesser banners having a regular steady selling rate
companies also love telling their investors "look how this one milestone event did!" because they can sweep everything else under the rug, investors also don't care to hear about steady but middling sales instead

>>582529524
you can just do normal runs and hit up the gear boxes, i do 500k high risk and it's still good profit despite taking it easy and using minimal resources, while also filling out collection
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>>582529042
Nigga not even Claret wants her
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>>582528363
peak female form
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>>582530047
She's 5% worse than Norma for Claret you stupid brown monkey.
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>>582526834
Yeah that's not exactly going to endear people.



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