/ourguys/ edition>Blizzard's new version of World of Warcraft, based on vanilla WoWSet in the same Azeroth but expanded upon with new zones, dungeons, raids, quests, graphical overhaul, and much moreMany new race/class combos including Undead Paladin and Dwarf ShamanMore than 1k quests added making a 25% increase in quest content alone>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app>When is it being released?November 4th>Beta GuildsType /who g-"Guild name" to see who's online, whisper anyone for an invite, or ask in thread.<wowfg> - PvP, Horde EU<DogFart> - PvP, Alliance EU?<Little Space> - PvP, Alliance NA<Wrench> - PvE, Horde, EU>Previous Thread>>582498130
Orc Mage or Troll Warlock?
>all specs are fixed>could be anything>gonna play a male nelf feral druid>againFuck me they weren't joking about druid being a career class, I've been stuck with this fucker since Elysium.
>>582507424Troll Warlock for voodoo
>>582507424my night elf priest spreads her legs for both btw
>>582507347>he does not know flurry procs from hamstringbased 3 hour molten core god
Apologize.
Nice retoilet-tier balancing lmaoooo
What's he thinking about right now?Is he wondering if he'll still have a job come Monday morning?
>>582507459Accept who you arePut the thorns in the bag
>>582507514No need, I read the social media policy for my job
>>582507521Hunter is a pure DPS class, rogue and warrior are hybrids (rogues can dps or pvp, warriors can dps or tank).
>>582507474>>582507475compelling points, thank you
>>582506939At least post one of her skins that actually makes the HotS model look attractive.
>>582507521>off-hand>offhandThis is the most egregious partBlizzard is run by monkeys
>warriors get a bad rep for not tanking>blizz makes the prot the best spec>paladins get a bad rep for not healing>blizz makes the best paladin spec an int-stacking shockadinbravo blizzard, bravo
>>582507521Tell me what I'm supposed to be mad about so I can call you retarded
>>582507331I don't remember when you usually get one, I'm not seeing any others in the beta right now though. As a kid in 2005 I always got excited when my character finally hat a long cloak, it was like it's own little visual progression.
Is she right? Old games are ICKY! Imagine playing anything pre 2020!
Thread is gonna be exceptionally rough for that 2 week period between the beta end and launch
>>582507596Pic unrelated
>>582507682She's right vanilla wow looks like poop from a butt
>>582507701Gay nigger award.
Alliance lost.
>>582507682She is absolutely correct. That's why WoW Forever needs to add DLSS5, Asmongold has been demanding it since it was first revealed.
>>582507679Yeah that's genuinely a fair point, it's kinda like getting your first shoulders so I can understand why someone wouldn't like that
>>582507514>>582507525I just woke up, why do I always miss the fun things.
>>582507514>>582507525Who is this faggot and what did he do?
>"waah waah waah it's... LE END OF PSERVERS it's... LE END OF AN ERA!!?!?!">when it took less than a week of beta for /wowfg/ to go from extreme hopeful to complete disdain for the retarded changes>hype for wow forever evaporated, streamers are on their 8th alt looking miserable>people realized it just vanilla again but with three additional hallways filled with loot piñatas>some fog and decals added for 100x worse performance>memory leaks out of the ass>extreme class imbalance one month before release>caster co-efficiency completely fucked>warriors castrated, Fury went from the highest APM spec to not even being able to press their main spender on cooldown>paladins buffed to the stratosphere, 50%+ of the playerbase will main an unkillable wreckingball paladin Frankenstein variant>playerbase so autistic they all already have 9 characters at max level + max professions + 40 pre-quests prepared for new level cap>new retail Smurf Belf race completely misfitting the Vanilla style>tranny druid forms>50.000 mongoloid zoomies ruining every NA server in honor of their Night Corp Chaos God of Midwits>same devs who hyped a secret boss in Molten Core during SoD (it ended up being a floaty meatball which was oneshot during its World First attempt)I'll give it two months before Forever is bleeding it's playerbase. Especially with GTA VI releasing 2 weeks after. Pservers aren't going anywhere, if anything they will rise from the smoldering ashes.
He killed wow forever...
>yeah HoTS Alextrasza has face of a man but look at that body mane! MUH BIG BOOTY PAWG
>no bbws in wow forever:(
>>582507771Americans cant sperg out if they're asleep
>face of a manLil bro watches too much anime methinks.
>>582507804I can't wait to buy $OLYMPUS coin to support my favourite streamer Asmongold!
>>582507682>Is she right?In her eyes yeah, there are people that directly correlate graphics to quality, I know someone like that
what if tauren looked like this rather than the freaks they are now
>>582507826>no bbwsBut we have Best Buds With Swords?
>>582507679My first long cloak was the gargoyle one in stratholmeluved it, still member
>>582507682and that's why oldschool runescape has less players than runescape 3wait...
Charlie charlie...
>>582507812Alextrasza freckles erotic
>>582507682People like this can simply wait for DLSS5 implementation
Am I just missing something or is this asmongold/olympus shit absurdly overblownpeople act like they run the server but its just a bunch of random dudes playing the game normally and sometimes doing some meme pvp raid
>>582507812implying cate blanchett looks like a mankill yourself, just once, for me
>>582507885The person that drew this is attracted to Tauren physically
>>582507382What about him, he said it's a 7/10 and isn't retail-, he's just afraid thats what it'll become over time
>>582507931
>>582507960Everyone hated the Devilsaur Mafia and the Black Lotus Cartel back in the day. Now they want it back but only if their favorite streamer is in charge. He told you so.
The Classic WoW subreddit is still in a Def Con 1 media blackout about the WoW Dev Janny being outted as a pedobear posting shitlord, they kept that guy's posts taunting the community at the top of the Sub for almost 48 hours straight moralfagging and now they won't let one thing be posted showing him to be a hypocrite or even him being incompetent and not having a ban list ready to go when the WoW Forever beta launched or the fact the ban wave went too far and took out normal toilet humor names the community wants and didn't go far enough to get all the racist, bigoted and pedophile meme names left running around still
>>582507983well we all have our own gravity, so technically you're attracted to me, anon
>>582507960they have infested trade chat to no end. every single day they talk about asmon or do some vagueposting. they were told by the roach king to ninja items from non olympus players (this might get him banned actually) it's insufferable. doesn't matter though. he's gonna have a massive melty nov 4th the day after midterms
>>582507791>40 pre-quests prepared for new level capOh hey, that's me!
>>582507756
why would you bring a warrior tank over a paladin tank for any content right now? they're objectively worse in every fashion.
>>582508070>Devilsaur Mafia and the Black Lotus Cartel Neither of these existed, you got psyop'd>t. Lotus King
The longer I stay here the more jade I feel and I think that is by design. Too bad every other source of updates on the state of forever and is shit. Maybe just stay in the shadows till its out then play until I dont enjoy myself is the only play.
>>582507521Warrior offhand specialization is genuinely the strongest talent there.Doubling resource gain from offhand, giving 10% to hit (dual wielding gives all dual wielders a 19% hit chance penalty with auto attacks) meaning you don't need to offset that penalty so much and get to spam more abilities.
>>582507596lmao
>>582508156Unironically yes, the best way to enjoy something is to just experience it rather than drown yourself in sensationalized engagement farming slop on social media
>>582508156Have you ever considered this place feeds on negativity and you'd probably enjoy the game more if you just played it
Warriors are dethroned and why that's a good thing
> Called WoW forever because it will have horizontal progression> Not even out of beta and devs already announcing vertical progressionhuh????
>>582508072>The Classic WoW subreddityeah I'll take your word for whatever it is you're on about, go back
>>582508150You mean for the current level 20 dungeons that aren't difficult in any way?Bring whatever you like
>>582508297Improved gear is horizontal progression.
>this retard thinks 10% offhand hit is worse than 50% offhand damageholy braindead retard thinks you can get 20% hit on hunter
>>582508156I'm only here to talk trashI'll leave when I play in november
>>582507756What did we lose? :(
>>582508297when they mean "horizontal" they really mean turtle, aka a 1% upgrade every tier it's just not gonna be retail wiping out gear every 3 months
>>582508297Yes thats how it works.
why did tom ellis have pedobear as his phone wallpaperwho the fuck does that
>>582508375I mean for any content, now or future. There's nothing a warrior does better than a paladin, and more than a handful of things a paladin does better.
>>582508437>1%Why wouldnt it be in line with vanilla tiers?
J Allen Brack was a visionary, he foresaw Classic becoming a streamer-infested shitheap before anyone else could, he knew that it was a bad idea in 2016, that it would lead to endlessly rotating legacy servers that burn people out forever, and that it would splinter the playerbase and end up creating a "classic+" version of the game that just exists to satiate the streamer class and squeeze money from the playerbase that provide content for those streamers, but nobody listened and now you are all paying the price.Are you happy with your decision to protest and petition? You thought you did, but did you really?
>block all of olympus ingame>they realize they're getting blocked and ignored everywhere>they come to the thread insteadforever is not looking that good and i am sorry for my US brethren that have to deal with this in the future
>>582508156this is not the same general the day that wowf was announced at blizzcon>t made the first wowf generalthe doomers have always been there. >>582508072this guy is one of the classic doomers for a while, always uses the same images. people like him are fine since he's just here to demoralize. it's the people that try to turn the general into their own personal discord, making friends, making "enemies", streamerposting, really just turning these generals into their social outlet. those conversations dominate because they'll have their own convos and then it just devolves into namecalling and non wowf related things. i've been on these threads less because truly what is the point. the porn isn't even that good in here. the /wowg/ furries have taken over that too. enjoy the game by not being here anon
>>582508297nobody is retarded enough to think they mean they will just make "tier 1 but with fire res" "tier 1 but with nature res" gear brothey will just put a dst level item with a 2% drop rate in the raids to keep people doing them
>>582508463Asmongold literally has a video on youtube right now on WoW forever in which he asks at what age do women turn into hags and everyone was saying 16-18 to the point he had to drop it and try to change topics because every single one of his viewers and he himself were being exposed as pedophilesBut Tom Ellis is an evil pedo because he had pedo bear meme as his phone wallpaper?
>>582507514>"Aaand">"that's enough internet for me">ellipses>"you do you"this guy deserves whatever it is he got
>>582508425>>582508297>>582507931>>582508493>>582507804>>582507682>>582507525>>582507514/wowfg/ - Social Media Generalget these off-topic posters out of here
>>582508521Yeah but on the other hand he said that in defense of fucking WoD of all things
>>582508484because it's gonna have turtle gearing, which buff low tier items and tier setsso you're gonna have very few unusable items, unlike classic
>>582508493Asmongold has that ghetto logic where stuff like growing and maturing is seen as some kind of innate hypocrisy. For asmongold it would have been more respectful if he still had the pedobear wallpaper and was still edgy.
>>582508521he was half-right at leastpeople obviously want many changes
>>582507586On demand healing is what defines a hybrid class. Tanking is just a unique dps role.Hybrid >Priest>Paladin>Warlock>Shaman>DruidPure>Warrior>Rogue >Hunter>MageAll the classes with healing should do a minimum 25% less damage than the pure classes. Warlock should probably be the least punished, as their healing is primarily driven be dealing damage and is not as egregious as the others with hard cast healing.
>>582508215Yet survival is doing nearly twice as much dps with their off-hand hits as fury despite the hit disparityHunters might as well have a third armhttps://mythicsim.com/wow-forever/tier-list/sims/20d40169-7702-48f1-bec7-180092fa79afhttps://mythicsim.com/wow-forever/tier-list/sims/2b1bc977-6b40-4cb3-a565-508780950864
>>582508635I doubt it
>>582508581WoD will be remembered fondly as a weird expansion with a lot of cut content that could have made it amazing, Classic will be remembered as a neverending shit-flinging festival.
>>582508521i would have been happy just getting SOD -TBC-Wotlk -> vanilla refreshes every 3 yearstea bee haych
>>582508493Yup, this guy is 100% fuckedWe don't forget, we don't forgive
You can't argue with her facts, chud.
>>582507514>corporate told me to shut the fuck up so i made up some bullshit to get the last word
>>582508657Fake AI sims
>>582508738Nice AI post
when will they give us DIVINE STORM????????
now that wow flopever has confirmed to be total dogshit and has committed the final sin blizzard didn't yet commit (a paid race) how long until this dies like the other two "game modes"
>>582508296>Warriors are dethroned and why that's a good thingWarriors crying about sucking at level 20 (they always did) is pretty pathetic rnFury will probably still be top dps with the added 3% hit, 10% damage & WW buffsPeople are crying about rage normalization but logically there is probably a level scaling component to itIf blizzard made a formula that gives you 400 rage a minute at level 20 when you don't have any abilities to even use it that would be the most jarring shit ever.
>>582508680I dont, I'd bet my cock on itthey explicitly said they're nerfing meta item like lionheartit's obvious they're flattening gear progression, hope it's just not TOO flat
>>58250855716 is the age of consent in a vast majority of the world. Over 90% of people's agree that it's an appropriate age. That's not pedophilia, those are sexually mature women capable of producing children.
>>582508771Classic was always total dogshit.
>>582508723She wants racist names banned because she worships shitskins as superior beings.I want racist names banned because I don't want to be reminded that shitskins exist.We are not the same.
>>582508557what's the connection to asmon?
>>582508770consecration is the paladin aoe spell
blizzard put profession trainers in starting zones, but not mailboxes
>>582508781They also said you would need to catch up when returning.tier 1 < tier 2 < tier 3 < tier XYZ but there will be raids of varying size every single tier.so you can probably catch up with the 10/20 man raids, in order to be viable to do the 40 man raids.
>>582508776>logically there is probably a level scaling component to itsurely the retardin main dev would not gut the warrior class SURELY
>>582508493What would metzen's daughters think of the pedobear meme?
>>582508638he's just a piece of shit. always was. it was entertaining when it was only an ingame/streamer persona. but when he converted it to real life shit flinging he turned into a subhuman monkey. same thing happened to athene.
>>582508776>there is probably a level scaling component to italready proven that this isn't the case. please stop speaking on things you don't understand if you haven't even taken the time to do the basic legwork of watching the relatively viral video on why the rage change and warriors are bad from one of the best warrior players in the game
>>582508816Age of consent here only applies to other 16-18 year olds so that teenagers aren't penalized for having weird awkward teenager sex. A 30yo fucking a 16yo will get you charges no matter what.
>>582508776>People are crying about rage normalization but logically there is probably a level scaling component to itThat's the pointThere isn'tPeople started cross-referencing between the playable demo and beta serversYou are permanently rage starved outside of the charge + bloodrage windowCurrently, if you go arms, you can't mortal strike on cooldown even if you save every rage point for mortal strike
> Tell people they need to be better men> *Makes edgy pedo and anal rape jokes*I'm so confused.
>>582508771forever already killed the other game modes and its only the beta
>>582508570Tell blizzard to stop saying retarded shit on social media and the issue will disappear overnight
What if they did the funniest thing and just made everything related to Legendary items personal loot.
>>582508297likely will be an upper limit of power, like tier 3, so no you questing at 60 will not grant you tier 3 gear.
https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/1wqq4pe/honest_question_why_are_you_spending_12_hours_a/can any of assmongoys chuds answer?
>>582508297Any amount of vertial progression will require catch up mechanics if we are to assume that we will be at 60 forever. Without catch up there will eventually be a point where the bottom tier is so far away from the top in power progression, and then running the 30 raids between the two takes too long. So as people quit at the top, there's no one to fill the empty raid spots.
>>582508953Its called trolls remorseDudes act like edgy 4channers from their teenagers to around age 30, then settle down with some normie foid that thinks thats absurdly cringe, and they try to 180 to reinvent themselves and pretend they didnt act like that their whole life
>>582507679>first long cloak>first shoulder>first hood later plate helmetAll cool milestones while leveling
>>582508978just make everything personal lootwe think we don't but we do
>He's not mining mithril for asmon right nowThe west has fallen
>>582509087>west>fallenheh
>>582508521classic was a mistake. fixing retail was the answer.
Remember you can be openly a PEDPOHILE and call gays FAGGOTS but so long as you "move on" from that you can get a job at Blizzard.
>>582509057Literally every human has gone through something like that in their life
>>582508959>forever killed itIt was already dying. People are quitting WoW entirely because of Classic being complete garbage. This bitch killed Everquest by releasing legacy progression servers and now she's killing WoW.
>>582509062lmao just craft rare plate helm at lvl20
>join guild>everyone seems chill>people discussing classes>officer talking about warrior>"so many specs are viable rn! im loving it!">so many specs>there's fucking 11 talent points in the game>90% of those specs are 5 points in crueltyyeah that's gonna be a gquit. smells like fucking tourist in here.
>>582509129Yeah everyone on Earth was into pedobear at some point
>>582509126pedobear was 4chans mascot for a very long time. why are you on this website?
>>582509126>but so long as you "move on" from that you can get a job at Blizzardyes. especially when its 20 years ago and you already worked there since the beginning
I genuinely don't understand horizontal progression.So instead of you getting better and better gear... all gear will be equal but will have special extra skills like in Diablo like "your abilities will create magic bubles around yay" roguelike type?How are people not gonna get bored when all gear is the same and all that changes are traits?
>>582507521noooo this CANT be happening!!!
>>582509126why are they perma banning people for such behavior thenif people can learn and move on why perma them?
>>582509057>maturity is just troll's remorsei can see how people commit crimes with this type of low iq logic.
>>582508650>single non-retarded post>zero engagementThere are maybe 4 actual people in this thread, and the only reason they hang out here is because they actually don't know/believe that everyone else is a bot.
>>582509229Gear gets better. That's why it's called PROGRESSION.
>>582509162Are you legally required to wear a helmet when you go outside?
>>582509278Not sure what that has to do with my post
>>582508650Mage can conjure food to heal people.
>>582509225>and you already worked there since the beginningToo bad the rapey Blizzard employees didn't become better men and had to be fired for their breast milk incident past.
>>582507884Well? What happens next?
>>582509162>>582509215pedobear was 4chans mascotpedobear was 4chans mascotpedobear was 4chans mascotpedobear was 4chans mascotgo backleave
>>582509126>its just a meme dude, pedobear doesnt mean youre a pedophile>its just a word dude, people say fags all the times>YOU CALLED YOUR CHARACTER CLARK GAYBALLS? YOURE NTO WELCOME HEREI cannot believe the shit im reading
>>582509147>plate>lvl20Why are you posting in general of a game you don't even play?
why didn't you tell me our girl is fucking live rn??https://www.twitch.tv/barny
>yeah i picked dwarf priest because she looks like me
>>582509347I can't post because Catboc stopped working for me months ago. It just says "Invalid Uploader" now. :(
I'm gonna main a skyborne alliance hunter.
>>582509229Usually the way it works is specific gear will be preferable in certain scenarios or get some kind of bonus in an area that might be really good. Other ways is different gear having different stat spreads or effects you want.
>>582508638He's just scum.
>>582509359unc stop having a meltie and change your adult diaper you stink
>>582509264Then where's the horizontal part? In your dad getting railed doggy style?
>>582509229Horizontal progression is basically where your BIS listis gonna come from various different kinds of content, some of it even coming from t1 but that's gonna require Blizz to design gear with very high variance.It's not quite possible in WoW inherently because wow is very "reach your caps then stack one or two stats as high as possible" kind of scaling.
>Dude children getting raped is SO FUCKING FUNNY LMFAO!>Whoa bro...did you just call yourself...Fentanyl Floyd? Dude....do betterWhy does this happen so often?
>>582508493oh noooo he had a le meme screensaver? my White God Assman would never do such a thing, he is literally a paladin IRL
>>582509229you collect frost resistance gear for naxxramas. maybe it has shittier stats but you can still beat the boss. the boss has items with higher frost resistance on them. it doesn't help you do anything but beat that one boss.
>>582508493>he's BALDmakes sense
>>582508928>90% of the world agrees 16 is appropriate >well my area fits into the 10% of other locations, therefore you're wrongAre you a woman, or just a retard?
>>582509429either you admit pedobear is fine or you condemn it and leave 4chan. call it zoomzoom
>>582509458That literally is the horizontal part. Anyone saying otherwise is larping.1 > 2 > 3 > 4 > 5 Notice how this line is horizontal?
>>582509229It's a buzzword that doesn't mean anything and the prime example of it, Runescape, is just the same shit as WoW but with cutting down trees instead of fighting dragons.
like half you guys are pedophiles anyway
>>582509507Go to any one of those nations and fuck a 16yo and watch what happens.
they killed nost and turtle for thisif it's not good let alone perfect i WILL in fact complain
>>582509492Please stop spreading this larp.
>moralfagging over pedobear
>>582508493I'd just find Zack and slap him and tell him to run to his lawyers about it. The most annoying guys on the internet, who do the most whining, couldn't fight their way out of a went paper bag and would simply get wrecked if they had to act the way they do around non-sycophants.
These are the type of people who think the username "Gaylord" is offensive but James Gunn joking about giving little boys blowjobs is "funny edgy jokes"
>>582509395>Lego Lad
>>582508650Yeah, nah.
>EotS but you won't get knocked off a cliff by shamans and druids every five secondsFinally I can safely go mid as a warrior
>>582509509 I'll do whatever the fuck I want and I'll never leave to make you seethe as much as possible since you can't do anything to get rid about my pressence while discussing my favorite videogame. AND I WALK OFF LIKE A G FUCK YOU
>>582509554I mean if you go to another country to fuck people younger than is legal in your home country your home country will arrest you on return if they know about itbecause sex tourism is a crime.
Am I the only person who isn't mad about skyborne? Yeah there's other races I want but there's nothing wrong with just dropping random new races in. We're picking up from the start of wow, why does there need to be some kind of narrative justification to include a new race with lore.
>>582509478One is some guy's screensaver (apparently). The other is a product usable by anyone with 1000 macdolan points. Do you think anyone can release an MMO of that size in America and let people be called Faggotfloyd Mcfentanyl?
>>582509641Correct. Which is another reason why >>582509507 's insult is a load of shit.
>>582508650I say this almost every dayit will never not be funny that classic warrior are so broken that they're universally considered pure DPS and pure tanks
>>582508297Did you really think there wouldn't be any power difference between tier 1 -> 2 -> 3?
>>582509635zoomer is a pedobear allygood goy of asmons 1st legion
>>582509229you are level 60 you get better gear from raid 1 then raid 2 then raid 3anyone claiming anything else is retarded there is no 1% increments of other dumb bullshit it will work exactly like vanilla from molten core to naxx
>>582509650Nah you aren't alone, I'm fine with themt. Played Wow on and off since 2006
>>582509520. . .How is that different from Modern WoW?
>>582509604I'm going to name him Carthaes Breezearrow
>>582509606Tanking is not a viable pvp role. It is irrelevant and can just be considered a weaker dps class. Posting an AI screenshot doesn't change reality. Your self healing capable class should not be able to deal as much damage as a class which cannot heal itself. If it did then every engagement is in the favor of the classes that can heal. That is not balanced.
>>582509660And yet, he didnt treat it as just doing his job, he felt the need to go on twitter and champion his actions and rile up chudsHes a fucking idiot and also a hypocrite
>>582508638Tom was already an adult when he had the pedobear screensaver. Kindly rope yourself, faggot.
if i put down a camp can i put a leatherworking tent and also a first aid thingie down in the same one?how does it work.
#nochanges uncs be like>"yeah I prefer the classic UI">proceeds to download addons that make the UI look like picrel
>>582509626https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aCDuzN0lds
>>582509780"AI" (it's called SI now, faggot troon) is reality, wokie.
>>582509715>instantly assumes i'm an asmongoy fanI'm not discussing with you retard right now as I'm enjoying my morning while having a cup o' coffee my dear mother prepared for me, maybe err go play the actual game instead of shitting your pants? jst saying y'know
> When i'm in a better men competition and my opponent is an homophobic pedophile
>>582509748can you do dwarf nowchubby belly plz
>>582509749Are you retarded?Every single expansion in retail completely resets and invalidates any loot from the previous expansion.That will not be the case anymore. Your character will still exist and be as strong as it was when new content comes out. Other characters will just be a bit stronger if they keep raiding.
>>582509791So what? I don't care what retards on twitter do. You are the one making the comparison I responded to, which I maintain is idiotic. Don't try to change the subject.
>>582509797How does that change anything about the core argument
>>582509780>Tanking is not a viable pvp rolelmfao noob
is the 100% increased crit for shadow spells not crazy with shadow form? is there any other class that gets that much free crit dmg bonus.. ?
>>582509676I'm saying this from a country where the age of consent IS 16and it is totally legal, though frowned upon, for a guy in his 30s to do that if he's from this country.Though they will just let you marry a 12 year old here if it's your cousin and you're a moslem.
Is warcraft 3 reforged worth a playthrough?
>>582509650I don't care that they added an elf race because commercially it makes the most sense. However skyborn's zone and everything related to them feel like scrapped Retail content. Their designs, the quests, the zone layout, the dialog, the art styles, all feel like retail.
>>582509848Asmongold competes in that division? Woah.
I dislike all streamers but I think I dislike Esfand the most. He triggers my fake bitch radar so hard. I just know one day the facade is going to break.
>Chud says blacks or druggies are bad>"You must die">Anti Chud says children being raped is funny>"Learn to forgive"Makes you think
>>582509840>OY MUM>YA HEARD ABOOT THE RECEN KNIFIN?>ANOTHA CUPPA MUM
>>582509949i had that feeling about pirate software from the starti think esfand is fake but not that much, he is just a redditor chungus to me
>>582509859nta but the only difference I'm seeing is that you don't need to gain another 5-10 levels to continue.Once again how is this any different to a normal progression from any expansion? >Get Gear>New raid comes out>Get new gear>new raid comes outrinse and repeat
>>582509916it just makes 150% spell crits into 200% crits, which is what melees and hunters have baseline
My guess is that certain raids or zones rely heavily on certain resistances
So Tom Ellis got exposed now from what I understand? Everything int happens when in not here bros...
>>582509892You can't mature after already reaching maturity, moron. Pieces of shit like Tom don't improve, in case you somehow missed the smug condescending way he spoke to his playerbase.
>>582509859>Your character will still exist and be as strong as it was when new content comes out.But if i stop playing with tier 1 gear, and resub a year later when there's a max of tier 4 gear. There's zero chance I'll do well in the latest content. Meanwhile someone who stopped playing in BFA and had maxlevel raid BFA gear is still fine in Midnight. Gear is not being destroyed in modern wow, they just shrink levels because if every expansion added 10 levels we'd be level 400 by now.
>>582509603>no you don't understand, moral grandstanding and making yourself look like an asshole is always justified.dear god keep these people on retail and ban them from forever.
>>582509998Pirate Software is based, faggot.
>>582509973What does either have to do with me or WoW forever?
>>582509815this is what tbc looked like though.
>>582510003oh really? well still pretty good yea? does that make them the highest crit damage caster class?
>>582509998Dude do you see my mana?
>>582510001It goes way beyond just the character level going up. Tier 1 < TIer 2 < Tier 3 is literally how it is in vanilla wow. Its just going to keep progressing that way without something like TBC coming along and making it all obsolete.What are you not understanding?
>>582509978this literally happened KEK
>>582510040It involves WoW forever developers
>>582509941Okay now just forget about retail because you're not playing retail.
>>582510072they dont have any talents that increase spell crit chance so its not that big, just makes having crit in gear usefulmost caster specs have a crit dmg talent
>>582510024>There's zero chance I'll do well in the latest content. Again this is the fucking same in vanilla.If you started in MC, quit, and came back when people were progressing AQ40 you would be too weak to do AQ40.But you can easily get into ZG and AQ20 and start catching up that way.This is how the game was designed.
>>5825095794chan is so fucking lame now
>Pedo dev banning everything right-wing but keeping names like Charlie Neckshot and Kirked Deathgood and White Crackerpieceshit>Twitch streamer asking his chat at what age women are "too old" and they collectively answer 16 and want to keep names like Niggerkiller Killniggers, Obama Rapeschildren and Death ToblacksWhen will people realize that both of these people are the same people
>>582509928>Though they will just let you marry a 12 year old here if it's your cousin and you're a moslem.Ah, so the outlier is sitting here calling ME the outlier when it's in fact the other way around.Also>Spelling it moslemMohammed is getting fucked in the ass in Hell by pigs, Hamid. Fuck off.
>>582509914If taunt forced players to be unable to target anything other than the tank in pvp, then maybe you would have an argument. However tanks are just non-threating and useless in pvp. They don't deal enough damage to be a threat. They don't have tools to disrupt a battle in any unique way. They can be ignored until the real threats die, and then cleaned up at the end. Tanks are just shitty dps.
>>582509949>I dislike all streamers but I think I dislike Esfand the mostif you dislike streamers how do you know one enough to know you dislike them the most
>>582510021>You can't mature after already reaching maturityYou're retarded
>>582510082Can't wait to be hitting fresh noobies who have to get carried through Molten Core for eighty trillion damage a tick in my Tier 50 gear. Horizontal progression is so fucking based and wholesome dood!
>>582508903>>582508937If you mean the one by Ahlaundoh, he doesn't actually go into details if there's other ways to generate rage (probably because we do not know)We already know there's a tank weapon that gives an extra 5 rage on hit, obviously tying it to specific pieces of gear is dumb, but it's obvious we don't have the full picture>People started cross-referencing between the playable demo and beta serversExplain - what level was the demo?
>>582509650the worst thing about the new elves is the stupid faction class split adding yet another shaman to horde while leaving alliance with only the manlet as the shaman class meaning there is a massive shortage of short kings for raiding
remember when you just played video games without ever thinking about what sneednfeedem69 and his fans were doing?
>late autumn>cold outside>sitting comfy in my robes with some hot cocoa beside me>all while playing and enjoying WoW Forever>not listening to millenials in their late 30's causing drama and not listening to cancer streamers and their shit takes
>>582510082Other anon is right, you're very dumb. By the time you get up to tier 6 you're going to be as much stronger than tier 1 as you would have been with TBC.
>>582510106OK, and? If the CEO of toyota turns out to be a brony, do I need to sell my car?
>>582510185>Can't wait to do the 50th new raid where the stats are identical to molten core gear.Dipshit,
>>582510148Yeah 4chan famously has never targeted people online they dont like
>>582510148>too retarded to understandblessed existence
>>582507931Okey but what if I name my character Kirk Necker? Will it be allowed because blizzard Jannies think making fun of Charlie's death is funny or will I get banned because pronouncing Necker sounds little bit like nigger
what race / class is he picking
>>582510164Further proving you have no idea what you're talking about.
>>582510181Do you unironically believe the "we must be better men" shlock? If you aren't innately a good person, you don't have the capability to change, lmfao.
>>582446752Old reliable, my beloved
>>582510021>You can't mature after already reaching maturitylol
>>582510117If you're playing skyborn, you're playing retail content.
>>582510227>ad hominemThis is how it will be though.
>>582510147>This is how the game was designed.So you guys lied and if i stop playing and return i will still be weak and will still need to catch up, only that, maybe, now i won't have to level up again?That's horizontal progression?
>>582507514is this the guy that said wow forever was made for classic players and not retail?
femdwarf warrior or femdwarf shaman
>>582509660You dont ban for name offenses because the rules around it are too vague and you dont want to end in the kind of situation we're in right nowThat's why you force rename based on report, and only ban repeat offenders, that's what they did in vanilla, back when it was non-retard holding the leashYou also probably dont want to grandstand and taunt your entire playerbase if you did such a bad job that they can call you out on your bullshittldr: he should be a better dev
>>582510148never thought I'd see the day pedobear was getting it from 4chan. moralfagging was exactly what blizzard was doing.
>>582510164Considering most of the PVP is gonna be centered around battlegrounds, tanks absolutely serve a purpose in PVPThey carry flags, they cover points and they tank the bosses in Alterac Valley.
>>582510296> will still need to catch upYes blizzard LITERALLY said this at blizzcon.
>>582510312>entire player base0.18% of the player base
>>582510292You have literally no argument. >>582510287No, I'm playing forever content.
>>582510204>get a group quest>ask the generat chat if someone wants to group up for it>its full of politics and streamer drama>your day is ruined>the hot coco you made used spoiled milk>you get the shits>all over your robes
>>582510175Because like it or not whenever something new is happening or servers are being fucky those faggots are the easiest way to keep up with it. The split second something new is discovered another little drone will come in talking about praying for a shred of attention from their idol. I often will leave a lower viewer streamer on in the background just so I’m hearing updates, discoveries, and changes as they’re uncovered. I hate it but it’s required to play optimally.
>>582510232>how does this involve wow>because it involves the wow devs>OK AND?!
>>582510312>tldr: he should be a better devWEMUSTBEBETTERDEVELOPERS
>>582510268You're a dumb nigger and things you're asking for are the reason retail pvp is dead.
>>582510365You understand my argument well you're just so hung up on the word "horizontal" that you've lost the ability to think critically.
>>582510245Now do you see why horizontal progression is fagtarded? The only way to turn WoW into a "forever game" rather than a seasonal game where you log in, check out the patch and log out with none of your progress from the last patch mattering, is to make it literally indistinguishable from Korean numbers go up slop.
>>582510264I enjoy watching certain animes, but I'll be the first to admit that it's really rotted the brains of so many men. Now they're convinced that if you don't have the exact figure of a 16yo Japanese anime girl you're some disgusting hag abomination that should be burned with fire.
>>582510197no
>>582510312I agree they should just force a rename. However I do not think it matters much whatsoever.>>582510379Explain how their personal xeets affect the game.
>>582510404No we don't agree at all what the term "horizontal progression" means.That scenario will never happen.
>>582510260Im pretty sure you can say nigger faggot as long as you call asmon a nazi
>>5825103530.18% of characters*funny how that's the only number he released, instead of the amount of ban, list of names, or % of the beta playerbase affectedthe numbers must have looked so fucking bad for him
>>582510330Not to mention tanks are actually great for offensive purposes. Send in a tank, heal him, and the enemy team will hard focus the tank while your team can go after their healers. Works every time.
>oddsFemale human warrior>evensFemale undead paladin>dubsFemale undead warlock>tripsFemale orc shamanRollin’
>>582510403You're describing vertical progression though. They explicitly stated horizontal progression. Horizontal progression is going to rely on resistances and specific zone and raid mechanics.
>>582510001there will be pieces of gear that are more powerful in each raid and will last you through several raid tiersan example would be ragnaros the first boss of the first raid in vanilla drops a belt that is better than anything in the game until the very last raid and that is a tiny upgrade over the first raid beltthey mentioned the chase pieces or whatever name they used that people will want to go to previous raids to get because they remain the best in slot for a long time
>>582510353no, 0.18% of characters.Considering some people (women) will be nuts enough to have played dress up in character creation 10 times across each server and the average person will have made about 2-4 characters at this point.And they were checking every single character in the database for if they were offensiveAnd random gen names are being assigned to random mobs in the world (as can be seen in the combat log)The numbers can be massively misleading.
>>582510478I'm describing how the game is going to be. I didn't choose this retarded buzzword.
>>582510330>they tank the bosses in Alterac Valley.That's pve. AV is literally just a pve boss race mode. It's not pvp.Wsg tanks don't carry flags. Druids do, and they do so because they move fast, can self heal, and are immune to snares, and polymorph. They're the perfect example of why a hybrid cannot have as much damage as a pure class.
So would blizz be okay with these names?>charlie neckhole>behead trump>musk eatshiet>bibis topguy>ilove israel>nuke gazalol
>>582510468KEEP ROLLIN' ROLLIN' ROLLIN' ROLLIN'
really serious question nowwhen will all asmonloser acolytes commit mass unalive? they are robbing us too much oxygen already
>>582510543I've seen half of these ingame already
>>582510552Eh, I’m okay with this. Probably the divine intervention I needed to not suffer through the warrior experience a 5th time.
>>582510497Fine, but it's no different than how gear always worked and the older tiers will be rendered completely obsolete and as gear continues to scale up you're going to start getting people soloing early raids.
>>582510452If the gear in later content is supposed to be better than the gear in early content, the numbers have to be bigger. Stats need to be inflated. Horizontal progression is numbers go up bullshit.
>>582510543no. everyone you see that posts the kirkenators name on characters did so after the ban. you can make new chud names right now. they're being disingenous when they say "so why's this name okay now huuuuuuuuhhh???" those characters were made after the ban
>>582510514I've seen plenty of warrior tanks flag carry in wsg.
you get 1 mainand 1 altthats it
>hate how asmon's community floods up the chat channels>libtard retoileters are trying to use my grief as a tool on their "muh slurs" crusade>the slurs in question are about in game races like "greenbacks" and "kodo jockeys">now i have to support olympus because I hate the libtard faggots even moreHoly shit I wish everyone left of center would die.
>>582510543no leftist would report these so they are okoh you thought when a non-leftist leaves a report it goes somewhere?hahahano dont be silly
>>582510483*the last boss of the first raidbut you get the point
>>582510638All the charlie kirk names went unbanned and existed beforehand.
>Fuck Retail>Fuck lazy ass developers>and fuck faggotsWe must be a better dev
>>582510412that's rough buddy
>>582510598Well we need to see how much of a powerspike each tier really is. Either way it won't be anywhere close to what happens each expansion.
>>582510598>dragonspine trophy blocks your path
>>582508493>pedobear screensaverqrd?
Does High/Blood Elves exist in Forever?
>>582510145so spriests just suck or what? i thought they might be good
>>582510772
>>582510741It doesn't matter if we keep getting content, it'll scale.
>>582510806high yes
>>582510543can u make a toon with the name Jesuswanted Kirktodie?
The retards who post in this thread are better at making me not want to play the game than Blizzard is, just by merit of their existence.
>>582510827It has to. Why else would anyone raid?
>horizontal schizo ignores every argument he cannot counterexpected desu
>>582510806Skyborne are literally High Elves.
>>582510819they look good on paper, their main ability mind flay got like 30% dmg increare and 50% mana cost reduction from talents but ofc we dont know what classes are good before lvl60and balance patches will changes things in the futureits best to just play whatever you want
>>582509492Was frost resist really important outside of Sapph? And regardless, just bring a pally then.
>>582510312God this whole ordeal is the most pussy shit I've seen go down in eons. It's like when a kid gets banned for being a little shit then cries to mommy that he didn't even do anything wrong except these are grown adults. I just assume they're softies who have never caught a ban or suspension or anything in their life so they're throwing autistic meltdowns left and right. Crazy thing is that this is over a beta where you lose literally nothing since everything is getting wiped in a few weeks, you're not eating a week/month/perma and yet people are taking screenshots of themselves performing refunds and chargebacks like whiny little bitches and being passive aggressive Karens on social media with the whole 'hurr durr be better haha gottemmmm' schtick, it's like those performative bitches who record themselves crying over stupid shit, truly and incredibly embarrassing to witness.
>>582510741The powergap between expansions doesn't exist, the expansions more or less reset your progression. A fresh 70 in TBC who never raided in Vanilla can do Kara and gear up just the same as a full Naxx-geared 70. In retail they've made it so the powergap between patches doesn't exist.
>>582509815My guild cleared loatheb in vanilla and got server first everything in tbc and this is what our GL's ui looked like. It was a meme within the guild that he'd make vids of the boss kills but you couldn't see shit anyway
>>582510914You are a seething pedo lmfao
>>582510914>God this whole ordeal is the most pussy shityeah banning people for their names in a beta is indeed retarded
>>582510819spriest has no aoe so you are worthless against anything but bossesshadow weaving does not buff allies only yourself so you dont bring anything to the raid like buffing warlock damage
>>582509376god.... pretty & cute soft FAT coffee fiend wow gf would fix me
>>582510897yea im deeply conflicted against spirest and rogue, always played rogue in the past but tempted with priest but dont wanna invest time into something that might not be so good
>>582510204This is me but I'm having Asmon play the game on the side
>>582510914chuds really lost their mind with this. it's been nonstop seethe for days. the ace in the hole was the pedobear screenshot but they're on pedobear the website. (actual 4chan mascot)
>>582509650They are fully aware Blood Elves are BY FAR the most popular race in WoW, have been for 20 years, but it would be kinda lazy to just give us BE again. So instead thry gave us not-BE that you can customize with BE skin and hair colors
>>582510204>>582511032Why play WoW Forever when you can watch Asmongold play it for free?
>>582510914I literally did nothing wrong, I was curious so I tested the filter by putting in "Ni gger" and it worked. Then I deleted it. I got banned for that. I literally and genuinely did nothing wrong and got banned because they're retarded ideologist freaks who will go out of their WAY to, in their minds, "root out evil"
>>582510953well technically a few bis pieces in p1 tbc was still from 60 but it was pretty minor ones
>>582509347https://www.newgrounds.com/art/view/hizzacked/wanted-hogger-2
>>582510823>>582510973this has got to be the lamest and most nothingburger drama that has ever happened in world of warcraft
>>582511080Good. Get fucked.
>>582511068lowkey lol. kind of at the point where i'm just gonna play gta6 and have asmon play forever on the side.
>>582511101Youre still getting fired dude, lol
>WoW finally gets 2-part names>Only in Classic Remix>When Kaivax asked the Retail devs if they'll add it they said no
>Call to arms to all the 2004 insane incel millenials to come back to play the game>Ban them for being insane incel millenialsIt's fucking weird that a human warlock named Blackdeath would be sick but a human warlock named Black Death would get instantly permabanned + no refund on a 60$ betaForever started off with a blast but now that the dust settles I fucking just want to go back to play turtle wow>Already breaking the horizontal progression itemization and the game isnt even out yet>Blue elves that fit retail more then they fit classic + go against faction war. the entire race is anti-classic>40 days away from release and only now are their "artists" trying to learn to make classic models>Metzen Yesmen>Infinite resource economy with layers, people already spam-changing layers to farm rare spawns for the overworld setThe box has already been opened. People already paid for the product. Expect no changes besides bug fixes when the game goes live, it's not like they can magically add ogres and make the skyelves alliance only at this point, or change the forms.They should've released it as classic with very minor adjustments like class balance and just went to work from there.Remember SoD? I wish I didn't. Those people are at the helm of this project.
>>582510914I don't understand the melties, blizz has always banned chuddy names on their official servers, why is it now so different like if it never happened before? Just rename your character nigga lmao
>>582511123Why play GTA VI when you can watch Kai Cenat and Speed play it for free?
>>5825111522 part names are so much worse than single nameswhy would you want the worse option
>>582510232a lot of people sold their teslas and went back to internal combustion. it makes sense, if you think the ceo is trying to brainwash you to believe his lies that you wouldn't trust his product.
I think the problem lies with extreme views from both sides and the fact that such situation was nurtured by real life And the other issue is that, chud behavior is pretty much justified these days.
>>582511169shut up tranny. they're nothing like asmon. you know why exactly too.
>>582511031Im pretty much the same, rogue was the default choice for me originally but currently Im set for priestany class could be shit at launch at lvl60, there is no way of knowingand which ever happens to be at the top will probably get nerfed in the first month, thats going to suck to those players too, feeling like they now have to reroll when they just got to 60
How much damage to peoples psyche did this name do?
>>582511101> Omg pedobear jokes and anal sex rape jokes and saying fag is a nothingburger>> OH MY GOD DID YOU JUST NAME YOUR CHARACTER... GAY?¡!?!?!? BANNED! BE A BETTER MAN!!explain.
>>582511227They're based civic nationalist chuds who hate trannies just like me and Asmongold.
>>582511153stopped reading when you mentioned wanting to go back to troondle
>>582511239you can't just name yourself after an ingame item, you're objectifying your character.
>>582510375>I hate it but it’s required to play optimally.lol
Ok then riddle me this:Where SHOULD the line be drawn on bannable names?Give me some examples
>>582511292you can't name yourself after in game things though. even class names like warrior, shaman, warlock are banned
>>582511260its all retarded and everyone involved is a faggot, there's nothing to explain
>>582511203>being able to have an actual RP name with a space in it is worse than "13 characters and literally every single name in existence is taken so good luck faggot"
>>582511292What a weird point of view Obviously he's a fish that made a wish to become human.
>>582511320why are you asking?their policy is fine as it is now
I just realized that when he meant 0.18% of characters he didnt even mean existing characters but every single database entry, aka every single characters ever created, existing or deletedthis retarded nigger likely banned 3% of the entire beta population and bragged about it on twitter holy fucking shit
>>582510645alright, I agree to your terms
>>582511320If they have a rule of "you can't name your character X things" and then you do it anyway. Seems lile that would be pretty cut and dry to me if you signed the EULA
>>582511320Blizzard should add a filter of names. NIGGER, FAGGOT, CHARLIE KIRK, HITLER, etc. should be in a database not allowing players to use them.If a player manages to circumvent one of the filters, force a name change, if they repeat, ban them. They should still let us mock heteroids because straights are disgusting.
>>582511375it seems like blizzard doesn't want chuds in their game. if that was their stance would you guys keep playing? would you try to force yourself in game?
why are so many zoomer joining cults willingly? are they that weakminded?
You guys aren't even talking about all the people that got banned for using copyrighted names from other franchises and IPs.They got beta banned instead of just forced name changes too.
>>582511330Once upon a time playing WoW on european servers we'd constantly get spammed with tells of "DK?" from Danish players trying to find their countrymenthen in Wrath of the Lich King I first encountered DKDeathKnightDK
>>582511271Asmon doesn't hate normal trannies. Sure that means he still hates like 95% of them but it's not because their troops but because they are mentally deranged
>>582511425yeah well a bunch of people posted his shit on the net and called his family, look like the chuds dont want him either so he should probably leave
>Making fun of child rape and charlie kirk is fine>Any reference to black people good or bad is notMAKE.IT.MAKE.SENSE!
>>582510914>no you see its actually good for them to ban people over something as stupid as a name instead of just making them change itEat shit.
>>582510823I don't know what's funnier, the faggot blizzard community being exposed for having an edgy pedo memeOr the bootlickers trying to distract by saying the meme has ties to 4chan.This Tom is exactly the person that's been working tirelessly to make games worse and be a condescending faggot about it too so the less we have of these retarded fucks the better, if he didn't act like such a faggot redditor no one would've cared much but him acting so condescending and morally high just fueled the flame and made himself a justified target.And no I hate Asmongold and his retard brigade but this is one instance of them doing something useful for once.Remember, people like Tom hate you, they hate that you enjoy a game they had no hand in making, they love taking every chance to punish you and would cheer at any news of your misfortune because they're extremist ideologues.Less moralfagging, more working on the game, and don't badmouth or disrespect your customers you retarded fucks, clearly the years of layoffs and shutdowns wasn't enough to teach them that.
>>582511439Because there is nothing to talk about. You could always get a name change for using real people's names.
>>582511434the online parasocial relationships are extremely strong. add that with zoomers not getting laid (the time where telling someone "go get laid" would be an actual cure) means that they want to be part of some community part of anything so bad that they'll latch onto anything. asmongold is the 80-90iq magnet.
>>582511492you cant just use the b-wordthats not okey
is there still a real classic wowhead or is it all fucked up by sod?
I will never understand why people don't get outraged at the word FAGGOT the way they get outraged at the word NIGGER. In the same vein, even a joke about sending women to the kitchen seems to upset people more than the word FAGGOT. Gay men are literally the only opressed group right now while NIGGERS and FOIDS have a shitton of privileges and get away even with murdering their 3 babies.
>>582511414Where does Moidslayer Femcel fall into this?
>>582511583Shut up and kill yourself faggot.
>>582511414>>582511413Extremely tinfoil take here but I think they didn't for the sake of causing outrage for marketing purposesIn the same vein that AI image generators on social media weren't limited based on copyrighted material because they wanted the popular characters committing crimes and running away from policeIntroduce a problem that you already know exists, farm the outrage, implement solution to the problem shortly after that you already have.The only issue here is that their solution was some retarded AI model scanning and autobanning even the tamest of things
>>582511375If your beta access was so important to you why didn't you just name your character something other than Negro Raper?The beta was the perfect time to put a foot down on you low wit chumps
>>582511123I'll just focus on GTA when it releases and stop playing WoW for the time I think. It's really bad how it both releases in the same month.Funnily enough San Andreas and Vanilla WoW also released very close to another, but of course it's not even close GTA VI will be a million times better than SA, still interesting
>>582511485it's blizzards game, they get to decide who plays or not. so if they said we don't want people who hold x values would you leave? or would you stay and play the game and continue paying them?
>>582511469Oh I see, he likes the based troons.
>>582511636>they get to decide who plays or notand we get to call them out for their retardation, anything else?
Nobody knows what horizontal progression is because it's a made up term that some fucking faggot on youtube came up with to virtue signal as an intellectual game designer. It's a buzzword. Nobody expects level 1 gear to be on an equal playing field as level 60 gear. Nobody expects the first raid you go in to to have gear that's just as good as the second or third or fourth raid you go in to. "Muh resistances" or "muh gear that's better in certain scenarios" is shit that already exists in WoW, it was never called horizontal progression back then, why the fuck would it be called horizontal progression now?
