Tsundere ass editionThis general is for the discussion of the adult English visual novel Lessons in Love, where you take over as the teacher for a class of 20 students trying to make their way through life. BEWARE: There is a lot of sex.>Game linkshttps://djnostyle.itch.io/lessons-in-love (It's free!)https://subscribestar.adult/selebus>ToolsGuide mod (get this!): https://f95zone.to/threads/lessons-in-love-progress-and-guide-mod-v0-57-0-cckerberos.106973/Automod (transforms the game from sandbox to fully linear): https://f95zone.to/threads/lessons-in-love-autovn-mod-linear-mod-v0-59-0.221087/Flowchart: https://drive.google.com/file/d/11fllvDn805bE_8JOl7TKOTM40O6LJnkN/viewURM (for editing values): https://0x52.dev/mods/Universal-Ren-Py-Mod-1000Puzzle guide: https://attachments.f95zone.to/2025/11/5442808_Lessons_in_Love_Resets.txt>Community worksWiki (includes translations for hex/etc): https://lessonsinlove.wiki/Fanart: https://www.lessonsinlovegame.com/galleries/fan-art/>FAQQ: The world is broken and I can't progress! What do?A: That's intentional. Try to work out how to progress, or check the puzzle guide if you really can't figure it out.Q: Is there any way to find scenes easier? I keep getting lost.A: The guide mod in the tools section will show exactly what scenes are available and how to get them at any given time. It's highly recommended. You can also use URM to raise the affection/lust values of characters if you get tired of grinding them.Q: What kind of /vn/ is this, exactly?A: It's a sprawling, 3-million-word long harem dating sim with an emphasis on slice-of-life comedy and romance that at times dips into denpa (schizo) themes and slowly unfurls a grander narrative as a web of drama forms between the cast. Play the start and you'll soon see what's up.Q: Next update when?A: Major QoL update on 10/1/26, it's the perfect time to start.Previous thread: >>580792132 >>582476271
Total Yumi love
Repost for posterity
Thought this thread was gone for good. I'm actually looking forward to taking screen caps even more in a week considering a bunch of chapter 1 scenes are being visually reworked. Which means a high probability of FRESH never before seen Ami angles and new Ami lighting.
Still thinking about the last update... it was so good.
Sara chads unite!
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>>582522519YES!!
By the way, where did Saraโs parents go?
>>582526238don't think it was mentioned but if they're still alive i imagine sara is staying as far away from them as she can
Nice, we're back., I wasn't bumping so that the other one would die. A shame bunny yumi wasn't used again though
bruh
she's a boomer just like me!
>>582538405Blud did not have to go that far
>>582538405>>582539706I feel attacked
Ami love will never die
>>582557381I love my pure tradwife Kirin
>>582569019big "Haha..." vibes from Sensei
>>582508120>Literally no ass even though there is an ass shot in the OPSelebus you goddamn hack
>that 14 year old needs to have a bigger, sexier ass
wow she's a gigahag
>>582575609Unironically yes.
>>582576057Isn't that like 21โ22 years?
>>582576795i think it's the opposite since humans live longer so like 1078 years
why is bro so brutal in this arc lmao
>>582577082I always thought that line was just kaori being kaori and getting the conversion backwards
>>582577416probably lol
>>582576534
>>582583807Yuri would make so much off of me being a rental girlfriend I'd get the upgrade package to be rental wife
Yumisex soon
Wizard sex
>>582597313>>582597258wizard yumi sex
>>582576057>>582576795>>582577082>>582577416>>582577528Kaori has a character sheet in the second care package that says she's 22.
>>582551256
>>582597526
>>582606270washboard
>>582606270peak performance
>>582606471wizard yumi is a miracle only possible by pareidolia
>>582616412Was this the scene were Futaba ruins it?
>>582616553Yeah it's where Futaba mentions Yumi's mother and she blows up at her.
not sure if i wanna hug or fug Yumi
>>582623319Why not both?
>>582627428
I wonder if this thing will ever show up again.
>>582639479in noriko's dreams maybe
>>582639950Heh. I just noticed that the donkey in the background is on a wooden horse, lol.
>>582518018between the qol update and .62 being whatever it is, it hurts that it takes at least 3 months before it gets followed up on
Meant to do this last night, but I'll start going through the Are You Happy Here twitter now. I guess I'll post anything I find interesting. One thing I was not aware of is the fact that there is not one twitter account of relevance, but four, because Saki, Miu, and Reina from NiB also have twitter accounts. They haven't been used very much and their few posts are primarily from 2019-2022, but the Saki and Miu accounts both have posts from July of this year. Anyway, one of the Saki posts is a hijack from Kyoko. We have her dislike of poetry mentioned here, which is one of the clues that she's the narrator of the intro scene of LiL.
>>582648950Made a mistake. All three accounts posted this year. Oops.
>>582649206Hexademical poem:>G l o o m y S u n d a y>S u n d a y i s g l o o m y >M y h o u r s a r e s l u m b e r l e s s >D e a r e s t t h e s h a d o w s >I l i v e w i t h a r e n u m b e r l e s s>L i t t l e w h i t e f l o w e r s >W i l l n e v e r a w a k e n y o u >N o t w h e r e t h e b l a c k c o a c h >O f s o r r o w h a s t a k e n y o u>A n g e l s h a v e n o t h o u g h t s >O f e v e r r e t u r n i n g y o u >W o u l d t h e y b e a n g r y >I f I t h o u g h t o f j o i n i n g y o uThe second stanza seems like a reference to Himawari, who wears a daisy in her hair.
>>582649921Google search link for "how to get the worms out of your veins." Relevant to chapter 4, unless this was mentioned earlier in the game and I don't remember it. Of course this post is from 2018 but I'm going to go ahead and make whatever connection fits since it's possible already Selebus had the "worm" idea in mind when he was making NiB.
>>582651010This is becoming a bit of a chore. Pic rel has all the hexidemicals backwards (e.g. 47 instead of 74) so you have to retype it in reverse, then it converts into backwards text. Translation is:>there is a body in the closet>she is so pretty>she loves me>no one will believe it. i am sorry>i am sorry>i am so sorryI assume this refers to Shiori, who died.
>>582652209Another google search link, this time for "am i dying." Nothing to say about that specifically, but the result I got after clicking on it was funny.
>>582652438More hexadecimal, this time lots of it in an image. Thankfully I OCR'd and converted this a week or two ago when I was skimming through things. This is the first direct reference to the Upside Down House.
>>582652736Soundcloud link to here:https://soundcloud.com/user-613110848The first file sounded like backwards speech. I tried reversing it but couldn't make anything out.
>>582654639Pretty interesting how far back some of this goes.
>>582655024The hexadecimal from Selebus is>tick tock>he is here>will you let him in>or will you sacrifice your skin>for a chance to come home>come.>take it."Come. Take it." is a line from Himawari in Chapter 3.
>>582655884Picrel regarding the spoiler text.Also is anyone reading any of this shit? Zero other posts since I started.
>>582656084Number of chapters perhaps
>>582656084yeah, don't have much to add other than that it's definitely true that he's been using ideas that he had before starting LiL>>582656524could be the number of UDH characters
>>582656715>could be the number of UDH charactersAh, didn't think of that. That's more likely given when the post was made.
>>582656084Mostly that there isn't much to comment on since it's stuff that he already had in mind for his overarching narratives and we probably haven't seen all his brainworms yet.As in, I don't think it's some multiverse kind of shit, just standalone stories in a tangentially connected manner.
I presume the tall one with reddish hair is Setsuna. I think that's the name of the fifth one.>>582657882I don't really have a theory on the exact connection at the moment given the paucity of information. I get the impression that UDH is a little more than tangentially related but I guess we'll see eventually.
>>582659102>179 KB JPGI presume the tall one with reddish hair is Setsuna.Or not? Pic related. I don't know why I assumed Youko was the one with purple hair anyway.
>>582659320why did someone post AI naruto porn
>>582659852See Nodoka's event Lavender.
>>582661230Thanks. I definitely forgot my reasoning for thinking she was the lavender one. I got the name wrong too since it's Yuko. These names haven't been mentioned enough for me to remember them properly, I guess.
>>582661627>I got the name wrong too since it's Yuko. These names haven't been mentioned enough for me to remember themYeah I also struggle with the UDH names. I always forget who Nodoka is related to and who wished for her.
>>582661627Directly after the tweet about the girl with blue eyes there's a soundcloud link to the second song here >>582654639 (the daisy one).
reeeeeee
>>582662696this one's been decoded on f95 somewhere
>>582662934I could tell it's Wingdings or something of the sort but I can't OCR it. I found the "translation" of it, so thanks. I really didn't want to do that manually.>The lounge chair creaked as i leaned a little further back than it wanted me to. I don't know why this is the only one we have when there are five of us in here, but it is what it is. I turn the page of my book, hoping for whatever weird collection of poetry I decided to pick up today to make any sort of sense to me, but, if today is anything like the last (Which it will be), I doubt that will happen.>[REDACTED] walks into the room and the scent of garlic drifts off of her lavender hair and over to me. Now, I know what you're thinking. Garlic isn't really the most "romantic" of scents out there. But, strangely enough, it makes me appreciate her more. In fact, pretty much everything makes me appreciate her more. The position she leaves her shampoo bottle in- label facing the wall. How long she takes to get ready in the morning despite never havinganywhere to go. The way the light reflects off her glasses. The way she says my name. Kyoko. Kyoko. With elongated o's not because she has trouble saying it, but because it's like she doesn't want the word to end. God I want to fucking mess her up right now.
Perhaps the most important tweet of all.
Well that does confirm which one Setsuna is in the drawing here >>582659102
Sticking to my theory that Yuko is Rin's mother
Well I read everything. Might as well end on this.>if a wish could wish what would it wish
>>582668708Now identify the meaning to the color of each star.
>>582672262Here you go. The middle of the image is an aquamarine eye representing Maya, so she isn't the green star. The two blue stars are the exact same color, which means it's going by eye color since there aren't two characters with the same shade of blue for their name, and all mother/daughter pairs have the same eye color. Red could possibly represent Sekai instead of Ami since the red star doesn't have a line connecting it to the eye, but that could also mean something else pertaining to Ami (it's not like we know everything about her anyway).
>>582677734Damn, I'm gonna be so right with my Chapter 5 Noriko prediction, then Flowergirl for dark route/true ending. I'm based
>>582678054Figuring that image out actually made me change my mind about chapter 5. It probably will be Noriko.
>>582508461>lilcels will look at this and tell you with a straight face the girls aren't completely same face
>>582684462I like August VNs and anime in general, some degree of sameface is not a serious concern for me
>>582684462I'll say that, yes.
>>582680123(หฬฃฬฃฬฅแฏ หฬฃฬฃฬฅ)Maya drive car into pedestriansCause insurance claimMaya needs lawsuit for bodily injury/wrongful death correction(หฬฃฬฃฬฅแฏ หฬฃฬฃฬฅ)
More CG improvements
>>582711470My thoughts on each one1) Is the skateboard there just to block the text? Too bad, I thought it was neat for the quote to be there.2) The original is objectively (tm) more funny, but it's better that Molly is no longer towering over Maki with 0 lighting3) Lightning completely changes this scene, very nice4) SEX WITH IO
>>582714557The Yuki one is probably the biggest improvement there.
>>582631654the fact that her shadow looks exactly like a dick foreshadows her impending fate
>>582648950>>582655024>>582656084Thank you 4chan aramaug, I'm reading it all and contemplating.The presence of the UDH in media external to LiL gives its spare presence in the story a lot of extra depth. And we can count on everything we see having some considered meaning to the author, which intrigues me.
>>582668708>>582677734someone posted a schizogenius analysis of this image on f95 a while back. every detail means something, esp proximity to the wishing well.
>>582733723Sexo
>>582738230it would have made for a good OP image if not for the molly
>>582725719Might try to find that later. I did note the number of wish circles (23) but I haven't put the meaning of that together yet. Proximity was something I hadn't considered but looking at it again that does seem relevant. Ami and Ayane have the same relative proximity (barely touching), Noriko and Himawari are similar to each other in that they're completely outside, and Sana is halfway in. The other 23 wishes are all outside as well.
>>582745580Is this Yumi in her Housewife era after letting sensei rape her, getting pregnant and using that to force marriage and having 6+ kids to increase the Japanese birth rate
I want to hug Yumi and tell her it's ok
>>582772605I want to show her turtles
>>582778897
>>582677734>>582725719>>582760440Hard to find a metric to get the number of wish circles down to 23 that isn't arbitrary. If you exclude the stars (Ami, Ayane, Noriko, Sana) and Maya, there are 30 heroines left, so you'd need to exclude 7 of them. If you only count virgin heroines, by the criteria of whether they've had sex with a man (thus counting Wakana and Osako), then you end up with 23. I dunno, that's all I've got at the moment.
>>582794167That shirt will always be funny.
>>582711470Holy glow up, and people said the game looked great
>>582799275Selebus definitely got better at using Koikatsu over the years.
yo is this the new Koikatsu?
>>582804892Hop on, don't be confused when there's a lot of story
>>582807280Eh... I just want to fug. Are the old cards compatible with this game?
>>582807856Sorry, I was just kidding; it's a game made using Koikatsu graphics, but it's just a normal VN without character creation or anything like that
>>582807953oh damn...
Yumi has a beautiful ass
>>582819850Yumi's ass would look beautiful on Sensei's lap while holding their 2 babies!
>>582819850Yumi has a beautiful sovl
>>582834619Yumi takes care of Chinami!Yumi would make a good mother
>>582842059Chika having a real one
>>582851008I would like 1,000 photos please
i want to hold hands with Yumi while she berates me non stop
>>582859497DON'T LOOK SANA!!!
https://files.catbox.moe/e9s8n9.mp3
>>582740478
>>582891695Holy cute
>>582891695oh no, the poor girl sold her skirt off for water
>>582894576to water*
Can't wait for the trainwreck that is Otoha sex.
>>582900875The true trainwreck will be Osako sex
Wow big stuff in this QOL update
>>582901369all of these were overdue for sure
>>582901369Disappointed that nothing was done to address the progress mod situation and that we still will have to hound and harass every new player to download it, but everything else is good. Font mod can stay out of the OP, guide/automod need to stay, flowchart has to stay, URM has to stay, puddle guide has to stay... Surprisingly little impact on the OP really.
>>582903094>>582901369>Font mod can stay out of the OPUnless the zalgo text from The Room with Clocks is still broken, then the font mod stays.
>>582903094>Disappointed that nothing was done to address the progress mod situationI don't expect anything to ever be done about that.
>>582904226Lowkey I kind of hoped that Selebus was reading this general and realized how bad the situation was after seeing every single new player get hounded by 3+ separate posters all demanding they get the progress mod, followed by the new player going "I tried playing without the progress mod but it was horrible, thanks guys without your input I would have quit." But I was naive...
>>582891695Sex
>>582904226>>582904328Didn't he say that he considers the sandbox part of the experience?
>>582904467he says a lot of things
>>582904467Even something as simple as a list of notifications that say "X has available events!" would be hugely beneficial enough to not strictly DEMAND that the progress mod be used in my opinion.I watched someone I know try to play without the progress mod and they spent literally an hour searching for a Sana event without finding one. Because they thought for sure there was one available even when one wasn't. Horrible stuff.
>>582904727Classic Sel.
>>582904328>>582904467>>582904727IMO the gameplay system is indeed part of the experience. I think it has a narrative purpose just like the puzzles do, and that you miss out on something by using the automod. HOWEVER, I don't think that means the game needs to be played blind. The progress mod is essentially just a walkthrough incorporated into the game. I don't think there's anything wrong with using a walkthrough, nor do I think that expecting a player to *not* use a walkthrough is a legitimate exercise of artistic intent. And honestly I never play VNs blind to begin with just because fixing mistakes is such a pain in the ass even in a normal VN. Does a walkthrough necessarily need to be incorporated into the game itself, though? It would be nice if it was and I wouldn't be against it at all, but I don't think it's really necessary. There's a certain point where I think a rational person has to say, "I'm just going to look for a walkthrough," and that this point is very (very (very)) early in LiL, and if they don't do that then it's kind of on them.
>>582906282it's still more playable blind than kara no shoujo, that's gotta be the worst case out there.
>>582906282The main thing is the practical reality that people don't really want to install mods and it's a little annoying/tedious. So people will be inclined not to use mods, and then they will have a bad experience and probably drop the game, hence the utter desperation we have for getting people to install the progress mod. The flowchart would have been a nice alternative but the game is so convoluted it's hard to follow it and that too would drastically impact one's experience.
>>582908025Well I definitely agree that someone reading the game for the first time should use the progress mod. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone without telling them to do that.
>>582913875reading Game of Thrones aloud to Chinami
>>582918742>creative
>>582917724
>>582908025in my case i just read the wiki and use a puzzle guide
>>582924894Holy sexo
>>582925362The puzzle guide is pretty much required in every reset puzzle except the first and fifth in subsequent playthroughs (though you may need a refresher for the happy events).
>>582927567Some people on the f95 thread posted puzzle hints that just say what events to check for puzzle answers which I like a lot better.
>>582903530I'll check on this when the update goes live tomorrow. I'm going to start rereading the game on either Friday or Saturday so I need to know whether I still the patch anyway.
>>582950731That does sound better, someone should compile those sorts of hints into one file like the puzzle guide.
>>582954359I know of one puzzle where this fails, the build-a-waifu one, one of the gods literally isn't mentioned anywhere.
>>582955996I think it's only on the wiki.
>>582842059Wait....predator?Is sensei.....a spy from space? Are there secret xenomorphs in this game?Also I'd have 3 kids with Maya
>>582959438Loli vs Predator
started reading this for porn now i'm in it for schizo shit kek
>>582962584Many such cases
>wonderful thanks Matthew>take care Matthew bye byeHoly shit. Is Matthew the greatest background character that never gets introduced? Every time after class this Matthew always gets something done for that random dudeI bet Matthew is the one guy in Cum On Me that gets all that tangy granny pussy
>>582970118Matthew is the pillar holding up Kumonmi
>>582976819it was meant to be
>>582976819happy birthday Yumi
>>582985605Birthday girl
Playing Krillion with the gang and the VC lit up on this question
>>582995091
True ending spoiler.
.61.1 is out
>>583016334>14.9gbWonder how big the game will be by the time it gets to the purity routes.
>>583017473This update doesn't add much to the size at least, since a lot of it is just replacing old files.
>>583017709It's about the same size as a normal update0.59.0 -- 14.4gb0.60.0 -- 14.6gb0.61.0 -- 14.7gb0.61.1 -- 14.9gb
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