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Cutesei Edition

Previoussei: >>582494632

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-DELTARUNE CHAPTER 1-5
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/1671210/DELTARUNE/
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>>582542013
>ralsei edition
ralsei edition
>ralsei edition
ralsei edition
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Frottery
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>>582540432
Basically the areas shuttah mentioned but more populated.
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Mewmew's slathered and bleached butthole~
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>>582542130
ugly bum who isn't a human
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fave got screamed at today because they were sleeping for too long
fuck fave stupid baka life
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>>582541549
Having the dark world just be Undertale (but presumably backwards since the entrance is on the right and Toriel's room is on the left) would be neat.
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Aw yeah it's a goat thread.
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>>582540432
This is my biggest gripe with ch3 because WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN KRIS’S HOUSE BECOMES A GIANT GENERIC TV STUDIO!?! Like yeah they’re gonna use the tv but why would it consume the entire house!? They have a kitchen for crying out loud!
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>>582542350
Because Kris wanted to hide it and gave Tenna the power to do that
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>>582540432
i remember reading that kris picked tenna because he knew tenna was an attentionwhore who would ensure the rest of the house wasn't explorable by the player
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>>582542350
Because, like Chapter 5, it was supposed to be a distraction.
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>>582542013
Hooman!
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>>582542350
you're thinking backwards. toby wanted his tv darkner and dark world, probably because he bet his life savings on the mettaton subplot, and he reverse engineered it into the house.
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>>582542273
best boy hours
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>>582542350
Making it the house properly would have required characterizing and giving lore to the undertale characters and he would hate to accidentally contradict himself so he makes them useless and sidelined in the story they absolutely must participate in for some reason.
Instead we got the least personal dark world imaginable taking place directly in the main character's household and all you get is Ramb going "Hey Kris, I remember when you had fun"
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>a feral cat has been hanging out in my backyard lately
>she apparently trusts me enough to get close and hang out
>tfw want to pet her, but she's a feral, and could have whatever and may also bite
Fuck, this is frustrating. Damn you basic sense, I want to pet the kitty!
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>>582542350
Because Kris' psyche made the fountain and the area that housed two families before tragicday.webp would obviously be the most important thing to him so it manifested the most out of everything and that Green Room and its various hallways is more than likely a metaphor of the behind the scenes nobody knew about the Dreemur family.
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>Ralsei is actually Asriel's prized possession
>thus it becomes a darkner that looks just like him
>Dess's guitar was her prized possession
>it becomes a darkner that looks just like her
>Ralsei and the guitar become a couple
>this is the only form of Dessriel we ever get to see
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>>582542130
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>>582542694
If Ralsei hooks up with some dumb guitar deer girl I'm refunding all the time I spent waiting for Deltarune.
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>>582542694
>ralsei being last minute hetero
i'd lel
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fave and the high-pitched whining of an electronic device that sends them into a murderous rage when everyone else says they can't hear it
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>>582542694
what if the guitar darkner looks like asriel because that's who dess loved the most and it creates a new yaoi of goat wave
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>>582542893
This is actually why Toby was pushing the Ralsei princess stuff so hard in chapter 5.
He was going to write a cute het pairing between Ralsei and the guitar, but he started breaking out into hives until he made them gay.
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confess your sins
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>>582542993
Everyone around your fave is old, only babies and dogs can hear high pitched sounds.
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>>582542694
>2 frame animated overworld sprite of desstar fucking giving Ralsei the nastiest sloppiest tongue makeout during the part of the chapter where you dont have Ralsei with you
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How does one learn to ignore baitstimmies
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Hetfags cry more loudly demanding representation than any sexual minority group ever has. The entitlement is real
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>>582542694
Fake Asriel x Fake Dess is the ship with 1% of odds that I desperately wish to happen
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>>582543135
I like giving myself wedgies when I goon
Said Catty
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>>582542350
Darkners become Darkners depending on what significance they have with lightners. A tv like tenna is as strong as he is because of all the love and care given to him as a household tv. Likewise, the microwave might not be considered important enough to gain sentience if lightners aren’t attached to them enough. It would moreso be a giant factory rather than a living person.
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>>582543226
i wanted to say they're a minority in the dr fandom but i know the fandom is composed of queers who are just spicy straights
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>>582543215
By posting even stronger bait.
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>>582542694
>this is the only form of Dessriel we ever get to see
that's ralselle + objectsei is dead in the water
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what if fave found me millionth dollur
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>>582543226
you're not read for the endless kvetching from fetishists and self-inserters when ralsei doesn't turn trans
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>>582542105
[X] Touch fluffy boy
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>>582543517
xxxxx
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Curses you with the Fave Forgetting Hex because of the themes and such. Don't forget.
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>>582543475
I'll never understand humor that is just "haha slur"
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>>582542694
>the guitar is Ralsei's solo fight like Susie had with Gerson
>the sexual tension the whole time is palpable and Kris has to help Ralsei hook up with her
>unlike Gerson, this is a mandatory boss
This alone makes it feel a lot more likely.
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>>582542273
Does anyone else have a strange desire to see him messily shovel cake into his mouth with his own paws until his face gets all dirty haha
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What if you found out Fave was actually the Evil Dr. Fave, the arch-enemy of Anon-Man, your superhero identity
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>>582543262
Fuck it here's another the artist did a great job
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>>582543008
>ralsei is kris' interpretation of asriel
>sareli, let's say, is dess' interpretation of asriel, and is older to boot
age gap selfcest yaoi must commence
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Fave was being told by their friend on how their friend's dad feels guilt because he did nothing with his entire life but still made millions since he was an early adopter of Apple stock, and all Fave could thinks is "damn I wish I was that lucky".
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>>582542350
Hmmmm why was the television so sentimentally important to these Lightners such that it warped the entire perception of the home around it
Gosh golly gee I guess we'll never know
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human Dess is fun because its inseparable from the idea that Kris wanted to fuck Asriel
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Ralsei x Salieri is endgame
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>>582543629
no but someone should post that pancake .gif

>>582543729
why would kris interpret his brother as a submissive femboy...
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At the humble, kind request of some flaming faggot I will continue arguing human dess in this thread
>>582535986 #
Yes. Thousands of times. But what's the point if she's not determined enough, or there's some sort of incompatibility, such that he can't use her to take the other souls from Asgore? The souls just ended up revolting when he tried to use them on Frisk.
>>582536557 #
A human soul is more powerful than a huge number of monster souls. Not necessarily more determined. Dess would probably have had an orange soul, not a red one, and Flowey would have been more determined by way of absorbing chara's red determination soul.
>>582536780 #
Exactly. As soon as Asgore takes her soul he'd have to reckon with massive public outrage. Maybe it'd just be better not to. Besides, nothing ever specifically states Dess is alive during the events of undertale. Maybe she WAS killed and her soul is in one of the jars.
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>>582543662
My fetish is when the evil sexy bitch is converted to good by my drop dead good looks, charming wit, and huge cock.
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people who should die
>human dess truthers
>kriselle knight truthers
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>>582542130
who even finds this shit attractive
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>>582543904
Human Dessfags are dear to me because they show how people will still cling on "theories" that are basically deconfirmed instead of just admitting they have a cool headcanon
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people who should live
>human dess truthers
>kriselle knight truthers
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>>582543904
What about Kress Knight (Kris's original soul in Dess's corpse)?
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>>582542564
It pisses me off that we meet shuttah and hes not tied to old family pictures or anything. The swatch ACTs tell you more about Kris than anything in chapter 3.
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I kinda want one but also I have a feeling it'll get DMCAd since Toby said no factory-made plushes
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>>582543850
Kris wanted a brother that would listen to him for once, as younger brothers often feel ignored by their cooler older brother when he snogs the hot girl next door.
Dess just liked having someone who liked her, and Sareli would totally have attachment issues.
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>>582543991
Is your imagination broken or something
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>>582542476
How would he do that it’s like miles away from his studio he can just ignore it.
>>582542476
>>582542516
Yeah I get that but you would think it would have more elements of the house.
>>582542684
This begs the question about what a ‘pure’ dark world unbeholden to any one lightners will would look like.
>>582543764
What family doesn’t huddle around a tv to watch Christmas specials around this time? It doesn’t make it any less wasted potential.
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dessriel is cute but i question who else could they even have gone for. blue ears seems like a generic wimp, pizzapants is a loser, and all the other girls are either fat or anorexic
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>>582543725
I prefer this over kralsei potentially being canon
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people who should exist in a state of suspended animation
>human kris truthers
>ness knight truthers
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>>582543904
dont compare me to battatshit insane amalgam knight truthers. The bitch literally has a closet full of human shoes and heart pillows. If she were a deer she'd own no shoes or at least some pairs fit for herself. The ones in the box are probably someone else's, that thing is full of other people's stuff.
>heart shaped catchpa
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>>582544175
they could probably make this at home if they have a full setup
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>>582544337
>The bitch literally has a closet full of human shoes
the shoes are fit for hooves dude
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>>582544449
I can tell by the pixels that the closet shoes are different
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Why do we call people with retarded theories "truthers" it should be "copers"
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>>582544317
(one sided) kralsei is already canon
hoping for a choice in 7 that only appears if you always/mostly took pro ralsei options that lets kris accept ralsei's feelings
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>>582543862
>Dess would probably have had an orange soul, not a red one
ALL human souls have determination and there is no confirmation that red=determination

>Flowey would have been more determined by way of absorbing chara's red determination soul
show me the line of dialogue that says this happened?
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>>582542350
It makes perfect sense. Kris is like 12 years old, the most important thing at home is watching TV and playing games on the TV. Kris likes to cook but thats just a minigame. The bathroom is just a shitter and their bedroom is just a place to sleep before going to the TV to play more video games, of course its a green room.
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I love fish
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>>582544548
Those are Kris's shoes that she stole over the years and kept for sniffing purposes.
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the theory deluded
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>>582544220
Please explain the potential that you think was wasted by Chapter 3 focusing on Kris's past home life instead of "Toriel's fur-encrusted stovetop Dark World"
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>>582544620
9/11
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>>582544449
As I said don't think those are hers. Was she wearing Asriel's retainer everywhere? If I weren't on mobile I'd give you my reading comprehension failure award, courtesy of shayy himself
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Chapter 7's big dialogue option
>*I love you too Ralsei <3 *Bite tongue off
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>>582542694
Toby would never cuck Kralseifags with a fucking Darkner
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I love human men!
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>>582544723
i swear 5 made me appreciate tenna more like he really did give us so much to chew on
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>>582544791
Dess owns Asriel's mouth. Are you suggesting she also owns Noelle's feet?
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in deltarune santa claus is called santa claws
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>>582544791
>Was she wearing Asriel's retainer everywhere?
Maybe.
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>>582544640
I think kralsei genuinely only works if it's one sided because nothing can convince me loving Ralsei romantically is important to Kris' character
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i swear 6 made me appreciate flowery more like he really did give us so much to chew on
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>>582544548
noelle's room is a non euclidean perspective nightmare, i think temmie just fucked up
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>>582543862
Why would there be massive public outrage for killing a human? Your friends in Undertale dont even intervene in all 999 neutral routes. Dess is an asshole no one mourns in Deltarune, theyd cheer her death in Undertale.
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>>582544646
Of course that doesn't exist, Toby didn't think that far ahead and I'm speaking in hypotheticals. Flowey seems surprised in the genocide route that you were more determined than him. Do you think flowey lost control of the timeline every time someone fell, and still saw fit to point that out in that way?
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>>582544882
the fuck is "glurbius"?
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>>582544723
…focusing on kris’s past home life. Maybe the photos on the wall come to life as a giant museum that tenna owns.
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>>582544723
>focusing on Kris's past home life
Well Chapter 3 didn't do that either, not including the Tenna going "Holy crap lois this reminds me of the time when Toriel made eggs"
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>>582543991
Me.
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i swear 7 made me appreciate cumraggery more like he really did give us much to chew on
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is this image straight or gay
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>>582544945
>"Dess dess look at this cool cat I hatched on Cat Pe-"
>"mmhmm azzy's delicious leftover gote spit" *schlurp schlupr shclurp*
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Kris and Ralsei admire and envy each other, rather than love each other romantically.
They're both everything the other wants to be.
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>>582543862
Thank you, anon.
>But what's the point if she's not determined enough, or there's some sort of incompatibility, such that he can't use her to take the other souls from Asgore?
What incompatibility? You're just making stuff up to avoid the elephant in the room that is Flowey not killing her and having save/load powers. We know from Asgore and Toriel that all of the humans were determined enough to have save/load powers.
>The souls just ended up revolting when he tried to use them on Frisk.
Because it's 1) Frisk, who has the power of God on their side and 2) Flowey only had 6 souls that time, if he had 7 he would be unstoppable in a Frisk-less underground (see Hyperdeath Asriel)
>Exactly. As soon as Asgore takes her soul he'd have to reckon with massive public outrage.
Like he did when the other fallen humans were killed? There'd only be public outrage if Dess wasn't killed and her soul wasn't taken because that's been the motto for several years.
>Besides, nothing ever specifically states Dess is alive during the events of undertale.
Sans mentions "the antlered girl and her big sis" as if she's still alive and Asgore in the alarm clock says that Rudy's daughters (plural) get to grow up in the sunlight. You're tying yourself into knots here.
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King Ralsei and Queen Dess Guitar
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>>582545103
>Chapter 3 didn't do that either
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>>582545079
the artists username
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would kris get along with rodrick heffley
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The shoes in Dess closet are set up for an elaborate sneakers o toole reference.
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>>582545205
oh lol
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>Dess Human Guy returns to thread
>CH5 Hater Guy returns to thread
Hmm
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>>582545023
I'm responding to the other thread, there would be outrage because dess was kept hidden from the public for years (long enoug to be adopted at least) while asgore knew. But I don't necessarily believe that it was someone else's argument
>>582544902
...Yes.
Gonna have to stop replying for a bit
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why is dess's closet 10 feet 20, and has a network of shelves with tiny ladders between in the middle of it, not even against the back wall
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>>582545198
It didn't. All of the references to the Dreemurrs' past are incredibly shallow, the focus is just on Tenna being sad that no one watches him anymore rather than something more interesting.
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>>582545330
grim? telly?
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>I do a little poopoo in my pants
>my undies are stinky winky
Hmm
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>>582544297
Did you forget that Asriel dated all those sluts?
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Dess slurps on Asriel's retainer while she sniffs Kris's shoes.
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so if ralsei really replaces kris, im supposed to view that as a good thing? why exactly am i supposed to think that's a good thing?
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There is absolutely zero proof that none of the characters in Deltarune aren't actually human
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>>582544960
I agree
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>>582545405
>All of the references to the Dreemurrs' past are incredibly shallow
that's your opinion. what's there is perfectly enough without being too much exposition or backstory for nothing
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>>582545368
dess had a pet hamster that she put through elaborate psychological torture rituals
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>>582544960
loving ralsei romantically is humanly possible*
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>>582545103
I thought I was the only one annoyed when Tenna went "remember when" after every segment. Its a visual medium in a fantasy setting, just have a flashback show up on a TV screen.
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Dess was thrown in jail by Asgore for an evening one time for graffitiing a building and it was such a sexual awakening for her that she decided if she couldn't have him, she would just date his son.
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>>582545502
You're not, it's good for Ralsei in the sense he achieves his full self-determination but it's terrible for Kris because Kris is suicidal and dreams of a world they're gone
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>>582545502
Because Kris is stupid and evil while Ralsei is simply stupid
Though it's not really about Ralsei replacing Kris it's about Ralsei wanting the things Kris has, namely agency, that's also why he almost blurts out that he and Seth should be leaders
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>>582545172
agree with everything here except the pronouns bit
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>>582545173
okay you kinda got me with some of these. If the alarm clock dialogue is post tpe (i dont really remember) then it would have been difficult to keep her a secret for that long
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Dess theories are old and busted, I hope she's just dead and there's no other gimmick relating to her character.
I just want a single flashback of her actual design.
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>>582544723
Chapter 3 has themes of nostalgia yet it has almost nothing to do with kris’s life from before dess went awol other than the mantle segments and Tenna bringing it up every now and then. A character like aqua is someone I would’ve expected to see in tv world as a funhouse mirror version of Kris’s younger self but instead all just impersonal tv studio shenanigans and all the themes of longing for the past when things were simpler are treated broadly. I don’t care that we didn’t get dess’s full design yet just tell me more about her relationship with Kris, goddamnit!
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>>582545679
but this is ralsei = kris replacement theory
ralsei will get everything he wants by effectively murdering kris and taking their place
>>582545650
it would be such a shit ending
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3 hate is as completely and utterly irrational as 5 hate.
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Dess is just living with a friend from out of town because she had a falling out with her parents.
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>>582545850
You forgot your Flowery image
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>>582545405
Yeah man it's just about your TV being sad that you don't watch it anymore
It's definitely not about Kris wanting to retreat into their childhood to escape their problems but having that fantasy constantly get needled by reminders that things have changed and they can never go back to how things used to be, all the way up to The Knight appearing to shatter the fantasy completely and drag everyone back to reality
The curtains are just heckin blue
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>>582545850
i love 9's
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>>582545927
What are you trying to say here?
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>>582545358
Why would there be outrage in that scenario? How would anyone know if the human the royal guards just captured was actually living there for years in secret or even blame Asgore for it?
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c'mon ramb you gotta keep jingling those keys until the knight gets here or MY ASS IS FINISHED
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The final boss of Deltarune will be a giant foam 7B with angry eyes.
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>>582545553
Yeah see that’s the big problem here. Not enough backstory! I’m not saying Toby has to spoil whatever happened to dess early, I just want him to show off what her life was like already if she’s gonna be the knight. She’s so brushed aside by the plot to the point where people are doubting if she’s even the knight at all! All we know about her is that she’s asriel’s tomboy girlfriend who’s gone.
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>>582545368
Why does her bedroom have no windows
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>>582545502
It's a good thing for Kris' character development for all of their strengths to be filled in by another, better character who isn't betraying the party so Kris can lose all hope when their arm is severed and Dess kills herself in front of them and there's nothing left for them but to be the story's final boss
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>>582546178
>She’s so brushed aside by the plot to the point where people are doubting if she’s even the knight at all!
er...anon...
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>>582545965
What you’re saying is totally correct. But they’re handled too subtly. It’s the perfect opportunity to show off what Kris was like back then outside of a couple lines from noelle.
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>>582545965
Cool headcanon, if only you had textual evidence for any of that.
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The Knight will be revealed to be a character.
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>>582546446
:O
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fresh meat
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*violently hurls my annotated copy of Hamlet at the wall*
THIS IS TOO SUBTLE
IF YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT SUFFERING AND PROVIDENCE WHY NOT JUST HAVE GOD APPEAR AND EXPLAIN HIS INTENTIONS
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>>582546575
Ralsei will be revealed to be a goat.
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>>582546393
What he’s trying to say is absolutely what Toby is going for, no doubt about it. Susie not wanting to play those games anymore is when you’re done trying to pretend everything is still ok.
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people have these thoughts about deltarune that aren't similar to mine and i can't understand them and it makes me so mad
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>>582546665
based
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>>582546393
nta but kris is narrating nearly everything including allusions to not being able to go back or how they've already taken too much. both of those instances are just a poster in the library and some money in a drawer.
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>>582546765
My fave gets misrepresented often and it used to make me mad but I got over it
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>>582546178
>>582546386
I don't care about the experience of people who are too dumb or incurious to engage and follow along with the story on the most basic level
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>>582546878
this doesn't have anything to do with the dreemurs or dess thoever
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What if Toby made a twitter post confessing that he was dying and had contingencies to try and finish the game but that he might not finish Chapter 7.
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7B is actually a nier automata cameo.
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>>582546878
>Chaos, Chaos!
It's probably just Toby being cheeky/facetious but I can't help but wonder if the Jevil dialogue drops here and in Chapter 5 are meant to mean something. Probably not, look what happened with Mike, he's just trolling
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>>582547119
That girl is Dess
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>>582547289
i would just wait until brandon sanderson finished it
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>>582546753
>>582546838
It's just your headcanon bro m'kay it's impossible to know anything until Toby Fox says it so all analysis by any other party is worthless and all opinions are equally valid

^ the audience you are trying to appeal to when you ask for Flashbacks to the Happy Times instead of respecting the reader's intelligence
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>>582547289
Then the Hammer of Justice dialogue about fans writing their own chapter would come true
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>>582547340
How are you so sure that he's talking about Dess and not Noelle? Both are in the same flashback and "that girl" isn't a name but a title.
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I think digging around for Kris's evil secrets that they're desperately trying to hide under a failing veneer of fun and normalcy is exciting and cool
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>>582547518
i really liked those parts i just didnt like the minigames
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>>582546753
Most likely, too bad the game doesnt execute this well at all.
>>582547434
Dont get mad, its not too bad.
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>>582547340
>goth, weed smoking 13 year old plays make believe with her baby sister's gay baby friend
retaaaaaarded
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>>582547518
But if Toby just told us what happened then I could Know More and Be More Correct and update the fandom wiki page
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>>582546878
>the penumbra phantasms as freedom is only for big shots Kris
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>>582547497
Noelle doesn't recognize Queen, meanwhile Dessknight brought those Darkners to life and many of the characters they played with ended up paralleling Kris and Dess's separation (Seam and Jevil, Spamton and Tenna)
>>582547683
Yes.
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>>582546878
Hate that this piece of dialogue sparked a theory that all dark worlds are just Kris and Noelle making up an adventure script (that which Noelle is also the Knight) which means the flowers and Ralsei are actually just characters and don't exist at all
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>>582546660
What I mean by “subtle” is that even though the chapter centers on kris’s fond memories of their childhood. It’s not explored any further than “the dreemurrs and holidays were happy until Dess was gone and now they’re sad.” We get alot of allusions to toriel and asgore’s troubles but you don’t get anything else beyond the basic fact their relationship is on the rocks. I don’t expect to hear a full description of asgore’s notes but what I do want is more info on how this broke apart his family which is a problem I share with chapter 5.
>>582546878
What ramb says is true with every dark world. It’s the one theme that ties them all together. He’s telling not showing. Why not have tenna go into more detail about kris’s childhood? Why not show snippets of birthdays and holidays and memories thst give us insight into the lives of the Dreemurr family but also raise questions about how it all went wrong? Not just that one scene near the end.
>>582547340
The girl is Noelle.
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>>582547683
Dess was a fucking loser who wore military camo pants and a flannel shirt to school in the 2010s. She felt cool showing a 7 year old softcore porn. She was probably a nonce.
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>>582547949
>Noelle doesn't recognize Queen
why would she connect a crazy lady with a laptop she used to play with, she barely knows where she is
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>>582547949
>Noelle doesn't recognize Queen
no shit? she doesn't look like a laptop
meanwhile, king and lancer just appear as the illustration on their cards
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>>582547683
>weird faildaughter LARPer has a close relationship with family friend's weird kid she's known their whole life
we have multiple anecdotes of all four of the kids being close and hanging out together, Kris was in Dess and Asriel's band, you are straight up not paying attention
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>>582548116
>>582548123
>Noelle doesn't recognize Queen
Noelle doesn't recognize Queen
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You will do a skies forever blue moon rpg live a live mother 3 Omori backspace
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>>582548030
They don't exist. The flowers are all Kris' soul, even Pink. If anyone else made the fountain their personalities would be different.
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They're making a Star Wars 10??? What the FUCK??? -Deltarune took so long to make that this is happening
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Having to put an anti Dess child lock isnt something you do after only one uncident. Dess was regularly showing Kris saucy videos enough that Toriel had to do something. Groomer behavior.
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>>582544960
you probably prefer another ship
to me it's significant if kris can accept someone who loves him totally despite him not liking himself very much. kris lived in asriel's shadow
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>>582548158
nigga there are TWO (2) instances of kris "hanging" out with older kids. the dess, asriel, kris and noelle pizza box instance where kris gets his head beat with a wiffle bat and the go get me a burger thing with burgerpants and the other irrelevant blorbos. this doesn't make dess into a dork. everything else is NON CANON as stated by tobias foahkez
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>>582548116
>>582548123
There was ample opportunity for Noelle to reminisce on their games when she was alone in Cyber City with Kris and was already talking about how Dess told her she would one day take her to a city like this and how the four of them would hang out. She's not confused enough to miss Ralsei looking like Asriel, she wouldn't miss the crazy lady calling herself a computer and speaking robotically in Computer World having the same name as the laptop she played with that ended up in the library's computer room, coincidentally the same place she "fell asleep" in.
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goodnight chat, going to bed now, cya tomorrow
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>>582548751
ralsei, you have to take the hat OFF before you go to bed. its not good for your scalp
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>>582548647
Dess was showing EVERYONE saucy videos, she wasn't a groomer, she was a public menace. Get your facts straight.
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>>582545139
Methinks (you) already know the flaming answer to that question
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>>582548673
>pizza box
non canon ARG
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>>582545172
the flowery fit is a stretch because the sleeves are green rather than black
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>>582548616
It's so pathetic that this is the first I'm hearing about this. Star wars is truly dead
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Only six or seven months until Papyrus will finally face off against the Snake from Snake in Smash Bros 6
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>>582548616
Oh god it never ends
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>>582548616
ENDLESS TRAAAAASH!
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>>582548616
What the fuck is there even to do lol
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is it weird that i feel like ralsei is the most self centered character? even his whole "please step on me, i am everyone's doormat!" thing feels so self absorbed
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>>582548085
Dess won Festival Queen, she was popular and not a complete loser even if loser Dess is a much better headcanon for her. I'm afraid Toby had a golden girl in his hands but the canon Dess will be just a generic tomboy princess
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>>582547434
This is not what I’m trying to say. You can have “flashbacks to the happy times” and do it in a way that expands upon Kris as a character while still leaving the door open for questions and theories.
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>>582548751
Goat night!
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... I can't get over Device Theory. This shit genuinely makes me upset. What the actual hell is wrong with people?
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>>582549119
Narcissists are usually stereotyped as power types
But sometimes they are like "my face is the one everyone should be sitting on, it is the best face to sit on. You're stupid if you don't want to sit on my face."
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>>582549119
He's a little bratty prince who yearns to be conquered and subjugated by big barbarian invader Anons.
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>>582548726
This makes sense, but Noelle is poorly written enough it could go the other way. Chapter 5 did have Noelle "forcing" Kris out of nowhere.
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>>582549119
most media literate award
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I just played the Earthbound Halloween hack
Toby just loves to make me suffer, and I guess I'm a gluten for punishment.
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>>582548054
>He’s telling not showing
You are fundamentally misunderstanding the concept of "show, don't tell" by asking for exposition flashbacks that unambiguously tell you what happened, and complaining about the really-not-that-subtle subtext that has indirectly painted a pretty detailed picture of what happened and how it affected Kris
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ODI DOE
I PLEDGE MY SOUL TO THEE
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>>582549182
>Dess won Festival Queen
Did she? I remember Asgore and Toriel winning Festival King and Queen repeatedly but not this
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>i have unspecified thoughts about device theory
>why are people like this
now give me (You)s
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>>582549119
it could be cool if it was revealed that he's only so nice and sweet because he wants people to fawn over him but i doubt that's it, like he feels guilt over big stuff like wanting to be a "person" and small things like enjoying cake
still i do enjoy this sort of twist. it's somewhat common for nice characters (not that ralsei is even That Nice)
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>>582549517
Noelle says Dessriel beat Kriselle in that scene
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>>582549119
I don't know about most self-centered but his masochism definitely feels self-absorbed. He's so focused on beating himself up and diminishing his value that he doesn't see how it makes others uncomfortable, like turning himself into a stool for Gerson to use, or might make them get the wrong idea about their own self-worth, like Lancer listening to him on how Darkners are meant to serve Lightners.
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>SURVEY_PROGRAM
>UI confirmed diagetic in ch 5
Device theory is like the theory of gravity at this point lel
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peepeepoopoo theory wah wah wah
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>>582549476
>exposition flashbacks that unambiguously tell you what happened
I’m not trying to say that Toby needs to spoil the incident early. What im trying to propose here is just… a better look at the Dreemurr household before the incident. Funny little moments that show off the kinds of memories that Kris treasures.
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Ralsei but as a cenobite
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>>582549810
>>582549423
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>>582549119
Truth nuke. It was absolutely confirmed when he started bullying orange relentlessly just because she mentioned the hat that he looks much better while wearing. "lack toes" was entirely intentional
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>>582549308
raly doesn't strike me as very much like that, but he's self loathing to such a fault that it pisses me off
>>582549810
the stool thing bothered me so much that i chose the mean option at the end of the chapter, some people are just unfixable man, i cant help this fucking retard and quite frankly i don't want to try
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>>582550026
Ralsei butt ass man
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>>582549119
He's not THE most self-absorbed because I think Kris and Noelle take the combined cake but he's definitely struggling with figuring out how he's supposed to treat people
He's more like a sheltered kid who has an idea in his head how a good friend is supposed to act without the life experience to know what's right and wrong, the biggest thing being keeping Kris's treachery a secret from Susie
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>>582548673
>* ... don't you miss exploring, Kris?
>* Back when the four of us were kids?
>* Gosh, remember that night we explored the forest behind the graveyard?

>* Oh, Kris! Remember DECEMBER? Oh, that little musical prodigy...
>* Remember when she'd grab the remote and swap it from cartoons...
>* ... to that WILD music video channel Toriel FORBID you to see?

>* (It's a shelf. In the front are all the holiday-themed games and movies...)
>* (... and at the back are all the scary games you never got to play.)

>* (... course, you know Noelle, she had to cry over that.)
>* (Until she went and made snow angels with you guys...)

>* I... was your band's only groupie, back then.
>* Your brother and her... didn't even really "practice."

>* (You, Dess, your brother, and Noelle performing on stage.)

>* (You closed your eyes...)
>* (You remember your brother riding on the ride with Dess.)
>* (He waves at you from the window with a big smile.)
>* (... you throw a dirt clod at Dess in the window and miss.)
>* (Your mother pulls your ear. Your father laughs.)
>* (Your mother also pulls your father's ear. Your mother laughs.)
>* (Noelle's dad laughs. Carol pulls his ear, and he laughs harder.)
>* (Noelle, confused, holds onto your other ear, but doesn't pull it.)
>* (Everyone laughs...)

there's literally no evidence they were close except those ones bro it's just your headcanon bro you just want Dess to be a pedophile bro that's the only explanation for why close family friends would hang out bro
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>>582550106
man fuck orange
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>>582549106
The only thing left to do is make some serious Chinese dosh my guy.
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>>582549616
Specifically, I can't understand how it's a theory. You fuckin' nerds are acting like the actual subtext of the story is some kind of galaxy brain fan theory. Like, no dipshit, you have discovered the radical concept of paying attention.
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ralsei is cute and precious so everything is permissible and he deserves love and endless understanding
cute is justice
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>>582550210
ralsei but he embraces the powerful tacos
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how is toby going to speedrun all the answers in two chapters? we're getting an hour long chapter 5 weird route style yap from gaster, aren't we?
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ENTER
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>>582550436
Only the stuff necessary to comprehend the progression between events, and probably most of the specifics of the nature of dark worlds, will be fully addressed. A lot of stuff will still be up for interpretation at the end of chapter 7
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>>582550436
probably
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>>582550565
GO GO SCHIZO RANGERS
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>>582549476
Its possible to have flashbacks or any visual method that arent outright explanatory exposition. A yume nikki like sequence with no text would be better than Tenna and Ramb awkwardly bringing up things they know Kris already knows for no reason
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Why are there a bunch of videos saying that if you abort the weird route, it's Susie who drags Noelle and Kris out of the lake? Did I miss something?
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>>582550107
For me it was having to literally turn him into a platform you have to step on to progress countless times in the platforming sections. There were ways to get around pushing the Ralsei block or using the Ralsei surfboard in the ch3 games, but this is necessary and the game fucking comments on it by using Flowery to call it a boy's treat. Do you want me to pick the good option and tell him he's allowed to be his own person (and then have that misconstrued as romantic) or do you want me to command him to turn into a fucking platform (which is also apparently his fetish??)?
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>>582549910
>peepeepoopoo (2008) by Toby Fox
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>>582550565
>my_d&d_party_art.jpg
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>>582550107
>to continue, press A to kick the dog
>WHY DID YOU KICK THE DOG YOU FUCKING MONSTER
toby is a hack tbdesu
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What would you want out of an Underrune animated series?
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>>582548673
Kris Azzy and Dess had a band, and Pizzapants hung out to watch them practice making out.
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>>582550229
kris has a huge amount of responsibility and when they self sacrifice for other's sake they do it silently and pretend nothing's wrong like with forcing you to walk susie back, ralsei can't stop yelling about how he's just sooo sad and how darkners are sooo worthles
and then he's so fucking mean to orange (my favorite human)
>>582550878
yah i don't like playing along with his fetish either, it's such an ick and feels rapey
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Ralsei can both want to be able to make his own decisions and have a footstool fetish
Clopen
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>>582551278
non-canon toby arg material
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What's the most Monkey's Paw way Toby could give you what you want?
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>>582550230
Did you even read what you copy pasted, that doesnt show Dess being friends with Kris, just watching over her little sister and incidentally being around Kris which is normal. Even the music channel bit is clearly not Dess wanting to show Kris anything, but ignoring Kris and kicking him off the TV.
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profound lack of human empathy
holy shit
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>>582551462
He already did.
I wanted a sequel to Undertale and he made some random side project that has almost nothing to do with Undertale and doesn't even take place in the same universe as Undertale.
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>>582551227
That's not what happened in Undertale. The game specifically tells you that you can choose to spare monsters right at the start.
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>>582550878
To be fair you can have a fetish for being stepped on and still have a backbone to stand up for yourself when it matters. If anything, a lot of doms in the s&m scene are cowards with little self respect.
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>>582551354
Sure but he doesn't have to make a non-consenting party (me) treat him like a footstool
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>>582551227
>He didn't press B
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>>582551435
play chapter 5 and actually read the text this time
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>>582551615
Masterful bait
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>>582551513
orange isnt a human
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*sniff sniff sniff sniff sniff sniff sniff sniff sniff sniff sniff sniff sniff sniff sniff sniff sniff sniff sniff sniff sniff sniff sniff sniff sniff sniff sniff sniff sniff sniff sniff sniff sniff sniff sniff sniff sniff sniff sniff sniff sniff sniff sniff sniff sniff sniff sniff sniff sniff sniff*
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Undertale Reach
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>orangeschizo is back
i'm going to cook lunch man fuck this
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>>582551659
most everyone agrees that undertale is good. i don't think anyone would see my post and think undertale. that said, it's still implied that even on the pacifist route, (You) are bad for soul-raping your way into frisk
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>>582551227
Press the B button, stupid
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>>582551863
ORANGE IS A HUMAN YOU FUCKING CHIBI
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>>582552028
Imagine if activating the pulsar cannons is necessary for avoiding a terrible choice like killing Ralsei in the future
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Anons is there a fast way to collect all the eggs? I'm on ch5 with all shadow crystals and eggs up to ch2
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>>582551268
That it's funny and doesn't have a hideous art style
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Remember when people back between ch 2 and 3+4 thought Catti and Jockington would be +1s in other chapters
I do
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>>582551778
>>582552028
Toby can never escape the Halloween hack
It will haunt him for the rest of his life
TL DR;
Eat shit, faggots
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>>582550353
I agree
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>>582551462
Gaster is real and he destroys all your game progress if you try to find him
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>>582552572
>le 9gag face
ebin
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If youre not going to read Homestuck than please play Halloween Hack, peepee.exe, and conversationsimulator.exe
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>>582552651
From the thumbnail I thought this was Kris sitting on a tree branch gripping their crotch
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>>582552687
That’d be neat
Gaster breaking into our plane of reality and rewriting it worries me
People are saying gaster fucks with them
They’re listening
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ralsei isn't even cute
that's what's so sad about his characterization, a stool personality with meh appearance
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>>582552538
>fast way to collect all the eggs?
Tenna editor
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damn he's good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4FOSARKjng
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I have not played undertale, mother3, earthbound, mother1, secret of mana, yume nikki, any touhou or read homestuck
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>>582552917
is what i said after i finished playing chapter 3 the first time
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>>582552976
>Secret of Mana out of NOWHERE
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>>582552538
You will go nowhere
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>>582552976
forgot to mention deltarune
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>>582552572
Noelle would think ts tuff
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>>582552976
have you played homori?
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>>582552651
based ralGOD
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>>582552976
But you have played Chrono Trigger and Cross right?
Right anon?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvAtZsfemkE
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>>582552917
Ralsei really is one of those characters for me that the intention of being cute ends up making me think he’s not really cute at all.
His actions especially make me think he’s just a rat with slimy motives.
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>>582552538
tennna edit them in and hope it counts for whatever ch 6 or 7 needs
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>>582552917
fuck off orange, you will never be a human
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ODI DOE
I AM YOURS TO COMMAND
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>>582552976
how revolutionary does deltarune feel to you? if you've touched none of its inspirations i imagine it must be like watching the wheel be created for the first time
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Stray Children is proof that Undertale/Deltarune would have flopped if Kris/Frisk was an anthro male.
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>more ralsei "criticism" that ultimately amounts to "i don't understand the character, nor do i want to try"
like pottery
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>>582553250
>>582553287
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Gaster is still my favorite UTDR character I can't wait to meet him one day :3
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>>582553250
>ralsei eeeeeeeeeevil
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>>582553287
And you always will be ERAM underneath that goat boy facade you stole from Asriel.
You can’t change who you are in this world.
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>>582553442
Not to sound pretentious but I wonder how literacy rates vary amongst favefags. Like to enjoy Ralsei you need to be able to parse stuff like the Broth
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>>582553359
That game looks like it's not very good just from that screen alone, I don't think it's relevant to an argument about undertale/deltarune.
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>>582553349
The average Deltarune fan thinks its revolutionary that Kris is a silent RPG protagonist that isnt a blank slate with no personality
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>>582553487
I didn’t call him evil.
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>>582553467
>THANK YOU
>FOR SEEING
>MY
>DELTARUNE
>roll credits
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>>582553057
I have 40 hours on DR tho
>>582553108
No but have fapped to the older sister character
>>582553198
Ahaha......
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>>582553537
ers Karamazov well or so much of his characterization will fly over your head
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>>582553592
>I didn't explicitly say it, so I didn't mean that
>This only applies to me, BTW
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>>582553553
Toby never played Moon but it inspired Undertale. Undertale then inspired the Moon devs to make this game.
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>>582553467
>>582553621
WELCOME
HAVE YOU BROUGHT
MY EGGS ?
THIS OMELETTE
WILL BE
VERY, VERY DELICIOUS
LET US BEGIN
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>>582553561
i know this is the case but seeing fans bring it up always annoys me because like you said, it's not a big deal. link but blue as they say
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>>582552976
>secret of mana
you're thinking of illusion of gaia. tobey took the moss gag and slow party joined text from chapter 1 from illusion of gaia. and seth
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AI takeover because the AI thinks its gaster so much it becomes gaster and runs experiments on our doomed world
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>>582553771
are you larping as col? this is next level trolling man
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>>582554041
who the fuck is col
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>>582553909
Maybe they’ll rewrite my fate to be a better one
Or at least get a fun hero arc?
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>>582554041
col didn't coin link but blue that was making fun of him
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>>582553743
I genuinely don’t think he’s evil.
He is incredibly misguided though that I do wonder how many people he intends to save.
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>>582553349
The meta narrative can be intrusive in chapter 1 when the game insists you spare all enemies instead of fighting but the more subtler aspects of it onwards are extremely engaging. The attention to detail in every chapter, things like survey program, the use of leitmotifs, the combat system in general are all extraordinary. Oh and Kris and YOU being separate entities is also cool.
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>>582553864
Is there a limit to that HACK's thievery?
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>>582554165
cute anon you must be having so much fun
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>>582553864
Toby played Secret of Mana.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uWf1V9jiaU
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>>582553864
>illusion of Gaia
>Deltarune describes the Earth expiring near or at the roaring
>dark world mist distorts reality from within the mind
So what actually fucking happens in Illusion of Gaia because it sounds like Toby wants me to play it but I don’t wanna
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>>582554117
Every darkner he can, presumably. The flowers were SOL due to their particular circumstances, and so was Gerson.
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>>582554091
he meant coal, that thing santa bring you on christmas
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>newfags don't know CoL
Fumigate the fucking general
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>>582554324
Susie refusing to read the angel bible or even Lord of the Hammer to figure out what happens next.jpg
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>>582554041
tourist
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Meat Factory 7B being a sprite sheet world is one of the fan ideas I just kinda fucking despise man
I just don’t think it interesting directionally. Even if it somehow is a simulation and not infiltrated world (the latter feels like it has more evidence) it would be just lame for noelle to be that bothered by it.
I just like the infiltration interpretation more so there’s a bit of bias.
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>>582554443
champion of light?
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>>582554341
I don’t think he has the Darkners in mind. I don’t think he has anyone in mind but Kris and maybe Susie.
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>>582554324
You need to play Mother 3 and Earthbound and Illusion of Gaia and Breath of Fire 2 and Chrono Trigger and watch Evangelion and Umineko to understand Deltarune
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>>582554493
Susie is too fucking stupid to realize that loth or dragon blazers could help. If only Berdly was on the team
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Ralsei is EVIL because he refuses to turn into a horse so I can ride him to get around faster
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Toby Fox has environmental studies major
The roaring is caused by opening dark fountains, of which look like an oily black fluid
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>>582554493
Eventually she learns what happens because of the prophecy panels.
Which Ralsei did try to hide from her.
She did eventually try.
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Meta Narratives is for nerds, just tell us the fact straight up at ours faces
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>play all the tobycore games
>he took all the good ideas so i can never steal anything from them without someone saying "hey just like in deltarune by tobias radiation fox"
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>>582554586
If he didn't care at all, I think there'd be more hints to his genuine apathy. And even if it is partly for Lightner benefit, he can have multiple motivations for it.
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>>582554768
Deltarune is an anti fracking video game 20 years too late
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>>582554794
Cant even do Gnosticism anymore
Fuck
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>>582554302
I'm constantly glued to deltarune music covers and theory videos because there's just so much shit happening behind the scenes that I had no idea about like Dess in the code, the many secrets of the spamtom sweepstakes, thr fucking earthbound breadcrumbs glitch??? And the final starwalker being a direct reference to the final starman?? Gaster apparently has an association with the biblical number of the beast 666 which is just creepy
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i think ralsei has three layers and all are true to who he is.
there's the most superficial one, he's a cute mascot cheerleader character for kris and susie
there's the layer below, he's hiding stuff and the above layer is affected (even if honest)
then there's the one below that: he's only really had consciousness for a few days, and is still learning how to be a person. also suffering under restrictions we still don't know the full extent of yet. he knows (feels?) he only really exists to bring his first and only friends to a place of suffering, that's gotta weigh heavy as fuck
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>>582554443
idgaf about your attentionwhores and thread celebs
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mewsei will NEVER be canon.
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>>582554586
genuinely can't tell if bait or not
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Toby got away with stealing from JRPGs because his furfag fanbase wont play a game without fuzzy cwitters
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>>582554831
For me it all comes together when Ralsei tells Flowery he wants to burn him into nothing.
This is a character with more sentience than an overwhelming amount of Darkners as this sort of half-breed and Ralsei was reaching the depths of his depravity anyway.
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what games would you want to play with fave?
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>>582554965
Ralsei is a Freudian tupla that represents Kris and his repressed desire to fuck his mother
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Where was Dela Delon during the events of Halloween Hack
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>>582555169
On 4chan people notice because of the people who goon to Omori and Mother 3 straight shota
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We MISSED A HUGE Glue in Chapter 5! | Deltarune: Shit I Just Made Up
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>>582555201
Toby would never steal ideas from Evangelion
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>>582555198
polish turtle game
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i feel like my intestines are being twisted ough ow
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>>582554543
it was cool at first but after seeing it ten million times i now hope the meta elements of the game are more like, it's a reality simulated within an actual, in-game reality, and not they're all video game characters and only the player is "real" if that makes sense
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>>582555178
No, he says that he COULD, in a physical sense, do that, and he only says it because Flowery is consistently, DELIBERATELY pushing his buttons. He similarly has beef with Orange, who he never comes close to threatening.
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>>582555401
eat more fiber and drink more water said nurse sharpteeth
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I finally got the guy who believes in piles of Asriel's treedust tonight, anyways what's up?
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>>582555401
Swallow less dice
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>>582554495
Bit disappointing that there's no canon design for Maddie's ghost form. She burned all her pre-transition photos, I guess.
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>>582555642
she looks like napstablook, dumbass
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>>582554543
It doesnt just have to be that. There are many fanvids that also include the dark world that Ralsei described at the start of chapter 3, the grassy terrain with dark outlines, weird fucking creatures like the arms merged together and the friend amalgamate. That sort of otherwordly feel would be very kino. A place you weren't meant to find where discarded creatures born of fear roam the land.
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>>582555506
Making threats of ending someone’s life is unhinged no matter how you spin it.
If a child made a threat to shoot up a school, in front of anyone, they would face severe repercussions even if they never had a gun to begin with.
The thing is Ralsei is that gun himself.
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>>582554768
This post made me irrationally angry because I made this joke 4 years ago and nobody replied.
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>>582555821
thoughts on susie threatening to bite off kris' face or whatever
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>>582555708
MY FUARKING HERO... and Kris
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7B as a meta narrative ending wont be satisfying unless its the rpg/shmup equivalent to my house.wad
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Where the FUCK is anchy
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>>582555642
She didn't "transition"! She was a genderless ghost who gained a sex.
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>>582555821
>ralsei is kris's gunknife theory again
we're trotting this out again? really? just stop
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>>582555747
>all ghosts look exactly the same
Racist.
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>>582555821
Have you really never been so angry that you told someone to kill themselves or that you'd hurt them? Not even over the internet?
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if Maddie is trans for posessing Pink, the player is trans for posessing Kris
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abysmal rotting decomposing rancid fetid anchorless thread
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Chapter 7B will be a real-time feed of (You) after Toby hacks into your cameras
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>>582555960
>>582554787
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>>582556195
ywnbal
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>>582555821
Oh my god bro
White people are softer than baby shit
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>>582556007
>no gender -> gender
Looks like transitioning to me
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>>582555821
A cop telling you to stop dancing around on their roof at night with honk shoes is a fucking terrible idea isn't the same as actually putting a gun to their head. Hope this helps!
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>>582556007
>>582556195
Oh, we're doing this cope again, huh? Get a grip, mate.

... I'd like to get a grip on Maddie's cock! Sorry. It was right there.
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p-p-personal creations anchor, reply with your latest work
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>>582556467
transition is gender > gender
being born is transition by your logic
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>>582556610
get him
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Every Chapter 5 era thread has to have
>Suselle wars
>Chapter 5 quality wars
>Flower wars
>Mew Mew trans wars
>Ralsei trans wars
>Toby psychoanalysis
>Off topic politics and general culture war
Have we hit our quota today?
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>>582556529 (me)
*because it is a terrible idea
this is what happens when you don't rewrite your thoughts properly
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>>582556594
fuck off, chaser scum
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I will not respond to off topic posts and bait posts
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>>582556713
>Suselle wars
hasn't happened
>Chapter 5 quality wars
hasn't happened
>Flower wars
hasn't happened
>Mew Mew trans wars
happening briefly
>Ralsei trans wars
hasn't happened
>Toby psychoanalysis
hasn't happened
>Off topic politics and general culture war
hasn't happened
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>>582555921
It’s awful she did that and even after all these chapters I still see it as a huge failing on who she is, even if she changed.
>>582556125
No, I haven’t. As far as I can recall.
And if I did, that doesn’t excuse my actions.
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>>582555506
Ralsei let eram slip out a little there
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>>582556713
you forgor the
>media illiteracy accusations
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>>582556713
You forgot threadceleb drama
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Gender discourse is extremely pedantic and boring. Get a real hobby like playing warframe
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Blue sucks but he's just a symptom of how bad and rushed chapter 5 is
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babysei
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Ch 5 didn't commit to the Japan bit
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>>582556529
Yeah that’s why I said Ralsei is the gun himself.
He’s this mysterious entity that’s beyond the vast majority of Darkners that probably has the potential to do real harm like Snowgrave or Roaring Knight slicing Flowery into two. Everything he can do holds significant weight.
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>>582556902
you mean regular illiteracy
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>>582556837
Sounds like we have a lot of work to do then! I'll start!
(ahem)
Chapter 5... smells
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After realizing most of the flamewarring lately has been literally one dude I lost interest
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I dropped warframe when it was revealed the warframes are normal humans inside suits
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>>582556960
>link but blue
flower, but terribly written
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ERAM hides in Ralsei's tummy
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>>582557091
It's freeing when you realize it's just one schizo and not a zerg rush of stupidity
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>>582556606
save me bumbling man and his shrewd little sideweasel
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>>582557070
My point is that telling someone to stop actively, on purpose, giving them reasons to shank a bitch isn't a morally black action.
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>>582556803
>chaser
Funny thing about that. Maddie is actually one of those characters I find it difficult to jerk off to. Nah, I just think she's neat. The bit about grabbing her dick was just jokes.
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>>582557091
>>582557229
>exactly 2 minutes apart
bruh
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>>582557305
>he’s clutching his head tapdancing in agony again
remember that when you have to eat or sleep it’s really noticeable brother
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Chapter 5 sucks because Dess was confirmed to be a popular Stacey and not the dorky girlfailure I imagined 3 years ago
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>>582557070
you should go watch bluey
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What are your hot take theories?
I still have a hard time believing Mike was a troll the whole time and think Toby was just poking fun at the fact we got it wrong. After all, there WAS a cowboy, just not im the way anyone expected. It's possible Mike is still in play
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>ralsei's tree ROOTS are in the depths (shitpipes)
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>>582556713
Can we have wars about how Device Theory is fucking stupid because people are pretending that direct subtext is a fan theory?

Oh, I would also like to start a fight with all the delusional idiots who think the Vessel matters or ever will matter.
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>>582557285
Reasons to shank because Flowery wants to survive in a hypocritical world that’s already decided he needed to die?
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>>582557268
I love Discorune
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They fuck, and that’s beautiful
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>>582557464
Mike is relevant BUT he's also straight up dead
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>>582557305
Idk why I'm doing this to prove some random anon wrong but here you go. I guess I'm just bored on /utigee/ today
Newsletter soon, please
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>>582557478
i won't fight about it but the vessel does matter. not as much as the theoryschizos think, but it will be a generic goner like the ut goners
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>>582557464
Kris IS the vessel who got the SOUL put into him since birth and was inactive until the time to bring forth the prophecy. That's why if he removes the soul his skin begins to lose color and he'll die.
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>>582557268
I should REALLY replay Disco Elysium
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>>582557452
I want to talk about Ralsei and his dubious actions betraying his uwu dressup though.
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>>582557464
My hot take is that people take an Earthbound fanfic made by the guy who did the Homestuck soundtrack way too seriously. These games are really good, but y'all need to fucking chill.
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>>582557553
flowery stomped him into the ground, forced him to wear things that he hated, easily revealed stuff to susie that ralsei has likely been struggling to reveal for the entirety of the game, and more asshole shit that justifies a flash of anger that's immediately walked back
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>>582557553
are we pretending that's all flowery did now?
because he went out of his way to be a dick to ralsei in particular
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>>582557291
Hahaha dehumanising transphobia is so funny
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>>582557637
>random cup of coffee while dancing
that's SO human!
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>>582557305
>:13:23
>:14:52
>exactly 2 minutes
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>>582556594
>maddie
you faggot, pink's bitchbreaker is right there, in my throat, pumping down her delicious feline spermies!
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>>582557683
At level best, that's what will happen. Some people act like the Vessel is going to be some epic climax boss in Chapter 7. Hell, people act like the Vessel is a character at all, which is ridiculous.
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>>582557890
Subtle reference to Toriel’s alcoholism
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>>582557717
>>582557724
Yeah, but Flowery also knows that in his one chance of living a true life is getting undermined by someone that already decided to send him back into nothing.
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Huh all the threadshitsing is really just one guy wow
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>>582556606
If I had to write chapter 3. I would make it so that tenna told more funny anecdotes of Kris being a little scamp like with the one about the bathbombs complete with funny illustrations and Tenna zipping across the screen as he recounts it.
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>>582557710
>comes to schizo thread about schizo'ing
>WHOA, way too much SCHIZO in here, chill out!
lol
lmao
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>>582558030
it's never one guy because someone has to respond to him
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>>582557465
Ralsei becomes titan but they collapse anticlimatically .
You then go inside the collapsed Ralsei titan
And find ERAM
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>>582558149
that's deep
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>>582558012
>have one shot at life
>spend most of it engaged in ust with a goat
what a flop
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>>582558126
Cute idea
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>>582557710
I keep meaning to read Homestuck but every time I try I see the length and insane lore and I just lose all drive. I think I have ADHD or something because fuck that
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>>582557965
yeah like this >>582557684 lol look at this rot hahaha
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UNIVERSAL MOTHER THEORY ISN'T A THEORY IT'S A FUCKING OBSERVATION *rips my shirt off* AHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>582558126
Tenna is a TV, its bad design that he's all text and not just showing us stuff on his stupid fucking gormless face
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>>582558169
Misread that first part as "Ralsei becomes Italian".
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>>582558293
That’s Flowery trying to prevent his siblings from an unjust fate if you ask me.
Perfectly reasonable especially when Ralsei’s is a juiced up Darkner too.
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>>582558012
>a true life
sure, a true life that was always on a day or two tops clock that was threatening the world by merely existing
if there was a way to save the flowers without everything going to shit, ralsei absolutely would have, but it simply didn't pan out that way because they were permanently fucked from the second the Dark Fountain was opened.
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>>582557975
When Barney on the Simpsons became sober he became a coffee addict
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>>582557965
the vessel should be a mini boss, at the very least
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>>582558126
Why, though? It doesn’t serve any narrative purpose and it makes the game move more slowly.
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what if i rabnnm
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>>582558126
this is kino
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>>582553359
Duh. Undertale's appeal is that you play as a loli.
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>>582555074
CoL is our stupid pet we keep around for entertainment, please don't scare him away like last time.
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>>582558469
Life is beautiful no matter how short it is.
Besides Ralsei didn’t live much of a life until a few days ago either. Five days to one day isn’t that much time when we live several decades.
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>>582557690
this is your sign
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Being a titan doesn't mean you can grow into a huge version of yourself
You're just a gooner for thinking that
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>>582558331
idk that ADHD is a prereq to know that someone else spent years of their life writing a huge garbage pile. you could also have it, i mean but it's not required
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>>582558625
Wheres Buddy
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His build is not hypermasculine
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most posts come down to "I don't like the way Toby Fox is writing his story but instead of sharing my opinion I'm going to try to argue he's Doing It Wrong"
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>>582558331
I played the first chapter of Hiveswap, and it made me want to fucking kill myself. And yes, I have been told that Homestuck is written like that, so yeah, I think I'm good.

>>582558489
>pic
See, this is what I'm talking about. You fucking weirdos are shipping them with Kris and shit, and that's just stupid.
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The Vessel is important and it will be the final boss of the Meat Factory (Chapter 7 is longer than every previous chapter combined making it technically just a regular miniboss)
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>input '60' into microwave
>it converts to 1:00 once you hit start
>input '90'
>converts to 1:30
>input '100'
>briefly remains as 1:00 but immediately counts down to 0:59
make it make sense
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Because Deltarune's message is "Life is worth living" its true genre is not JRPG but VN
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>>582558653
>Besides Ralsei didn’t live much of a life until a few days ago either.
was it ever confirmed how ralsei was spending his time prior to krusie showing up
did he really just sit in the dark for years and years or was he preloaded with the sense of having done so
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>>582558723
It changed so many lives though, people here still talk about it. I want to understand. This is how Toberto got famous, I share a fanbase with the Homestuck people, I felt it was worth to try and understand them
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i wish i could draw...
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>>582557710
Yeah, I’ve posted about it on /utg/ several times before and only gotten replies in the vein of >>582558131. It’s an inheritance of the early Undertale fandom, where now unless you have baptized yourself in the cesspool of theoryslop and fanon bs, you aren’t a “fan”. People need to chill, but in /utg/ this will be forgotten with the next theorybait.
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>>582558875
And that's a good thing!
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>the pacing and writing is good if you are me and know where everything is going
imagine anyone else but toby saying this
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>>582558805
we love krissel yaoi here
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>>582558517
omori's writing sucked but this shit was, as the kids say, cash
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>>582559009
STOP MILING MY BOY
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>>582558653
if they stayed in their own dark world, they would have died in short order, regardless
they're fragile plants that need sunlight and water
i'm sorry that you would rather indulge the self-destructive and otherwise dangerous whim of a 90 year old cancer patient that wants to destroy a damn and flood the entire city than to deny them a stupid wish, but that's just how it's got to be, sometimes
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>>582558504
It shows more of Kris during their youth and serve as a vehicle to further drive home the themes of nostalgia.
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>>582558981
please don't reply to yourself it's embarrassing for everyone
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>>582558653
Their lives werent beautiful they were a disgusting mockery of life. Asgore didnt gave a shit about them, probably because one mimicked his dying friend and interfered with the investigation of his missing daughter.
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>>582558981
I agree but 4chan will never be "chill", its just the nature of this place
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>>582556007
>>582556195
>>582556467
>>582556594
No you don't understand anons! MtF Transgender people NEED a 'le kawaii' afab looking anime girl to project onto or they will DIE. They NEED trans allegorys to be SEEN and HEARD 10x over. Because if they don't make their projection onto a character BLATANTLY obvious it doesn't affirm their gender! If you even suggest a possibly trans allegory isn't 100x canon it's a personal attack on their identity and it's basically a hatecrime and you are a chud! /s
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Fave is an Inferior Meatus.
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>>582559172
this desu
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>>582559169
Please don’t be so certain that I’m replying to myself, newfag, it puts you out.
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>>582559009
Toby wanted to prevent ralsei ranching but anon was brave enough to pick up the pen.
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>>582559050
sex with whatever that is in the background
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>>582559087
was this posted on twitter? was never sure if this artist had socials or not
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>>582558958
I’m in the belief he was preloaded to think so. He could have been born two days ago.
But if he genuinely believes it as an actual experience is a different thing however. He could be two days old for real but I don’t think you could ever shake the belief that he thinks he’s over thousands of years old if he’s been made to believe that.
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Tony isnt that good at writing stories lets not kid ourselves. Writing charming characters doesnt mean you can write an overall narrative.
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>>582558967
friend, seeing kevin sorbo as hercules when i was a kid changed me and many others into fags. there's nothing particularly illuminating about this. it's fine
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I love this stupid chud cat.
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>>582559043
I'm an adult so I don't have panic attacks about a story I like from an author I trust not being finished yet
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so cute it makes me sad
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>Tony
Yeah fine I’ll filter that one already
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>>582559378
I've seen dumber phoneposts but this wasn't a good one.
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>>582559420
>Kevin Sorbo
Ironic since he's one of the few celebs that chudded out so far right he would probably call you a fag if you met him
Said uhhh Politics Bear
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RAPINDOOOMER
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>>582559103
>>582559172
I don’t think Flowery is right either. Him playing with hypocrisy by embracing his while challenging others on theirs makes all parties look bad.
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>>582559509
meet and HUH
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This is what they’re talking about when they say “everyone’s a critic”!
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The whiteboard normalnpc is so fucking cool
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>>582559573
But I thought Flowery did nothing wrong at all, the innocent little angel! :O
You can just admit that you had a bad take.
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>Every remaining thread personality shitass magically spawned at once
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>>582559373
It's Animism, dark worlds are simply spirit worlds that give form to what was always there
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I THINK YOUR FAVE SUCKS
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>>582559218
>Say it with me, folks!
RENT-FREE
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Generally when someone posts something retarded or nonesensical I don't reply
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>>582559378
It hurts but it's right.
He's the same as hussie.
An absolutely pheromonal character writer and artist with cool ideas who just doesn't do cohesive narrative well at all.
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>>582559503
who is having panic attacks?
what's so terrible about people being dissatisfied that you have to make things up to belittle them like this
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hot coffee
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I hate bad characters like Mew Mew and Rouge the Bat and Samus
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>>582559325
it was, neverknowsdot is the acc
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Artwork that gives Maddie a dick is off model slop not because she wouldn't have one but because she canonically doesn't have a lower body at all
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>>582559791
UT did end pretty strong
But that may be because omega flowey is crazy jarring after hours of what UT is normally like
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>>582559868
thanks
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How did toby make deltarune?
How can one man be so media literate?
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>>582559738
kiddo... there is 6 more syllables you need to fill
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After 4 chapters of closing fountains against the wishes of those dark world inhiabitants, why was I supposed to feel any different about chapter 5's fountain?

We already decided playtime was over after fighting the Titan
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>>582559693
Of course he did wrong things. Making or prolonging fountains is generally wrong.
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>>582559694
>this happens
>start of us tz
im noooticing
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Taking all bets on how long until we're hit with gorespam again
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>berdfag and tasquetard show up at the same time
Yeah no thank you, good luck everyone else.
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>>582559861
all three of those are non-characters that are only liked by freaks who cant stop touching themselves
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>>582559979
Shut the fuck up and enjoy your one last final fun adventure before we start getting fucked up and shit.
Jarona jarona jarona
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>>582559979
Flowery wanted to make issue of it because they were a flower, so it has the preservation instinct while darkners typically don't have it due to being objects
Okay I just bullshitted that but it's like the main difference I could think of as absorbing interactions with lighteners is a thing all darkners seem to do
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>>582559952
UT was 4 hours long. Chapter 1 is also 4 hours and is fine as a standalone story.
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Flowery was philosophically correct that they had a right to fight for their dream, even if their dream is objectively a bad idea for everyone including themselves. But that still doesn't mean his "fuck the grand fountain, world's balance, and everyone else. I want to suicide in style. What makes your dream better?" was him successfully destroying Ralsei's argument with hard facts and logic.
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>>582559715
I can see that.
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>>582559791
I think it's weird when people say stuff like this because I read through the first four acts of homestuck and none of the characters had any sort of characterization
they were all just a collection of personality quirks like "watches shitty movies" and "makes music"
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>>582560402
Nobody can actually explain why Homestuck was ever GOOD, they just randomly claim it totally was
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>>582560275
Hitler had a dream
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>>582559979
but flower man said CASTLE TOWN is a fountain, too! the writing here is like so deep said bratty
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>>582560161
These will be my only two posts though

>>582559845
>>[this post]
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What is good and what is conductive to the wants of online fandoms are two separate things
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>Hitler was philosophically correct that they had a right to fight for their dream, even if their dream is objectively a bad idea for everyone including themselves
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>>582559943
The dress is covering her crotch so ghost cock is not disproven
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Fave will go grocery shopping and wish they had the money to just buy 1 of everything in an aisle like coffee flavors just to indulge and experiment
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>>582560474
you just had to be there
>real response from a homestuck 'tard i know
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Fox's Illusion is a visual and auditory illusion that causes the perceiver to believe they are playing a video game when in reality the video and audio are a carefully controlled selection of geometrical shapes and shepherd's tones.
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toby stole the flowers' motivation and the "sunset" theme from this comic btw
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>>582560628
Both sides are Hitler considering that prolonging their respective fountains is a danger in itself
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>>582560402
>I read through the first four acts of homestuck and none of the characters had any sort of characterization
how old were you when you read it because even that early stuff like dave's deep envy of john and rose's desire to seem smarter than she was were coming through clearly
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Why was Flower King Japan themed?
Why wasnt it themed after a japanese festival but the mountains of Japan?
Why didnt it have any metropolitan Tokyo setting that would match the setting of Mew Mew Kissy Cutie?
Why doesnt Deltarune Mew Mew have themes of bullying and acceptance like the Undertale Mew Mew?
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flowery should've raped ralsei on screen, that's what i think
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>>582559715
Animism also involves the presence of lingering legacies of people who are dead, but remain in the physical world implicitly due to their physical legacy, and shamans who can make aspects of the spiritual world physical through ritual. Gerson coming back to life due to his memory and legacy is an animist concept, and the stabbing of the earth is an animist ritual to make aspects of the spiritual/dark world into a physical/light world. Only a few aspects become revealed through dark worlds as in animist ritual, since Kris was able to not make the drawings or the binned flowers in their house become darkners by their will.

The whole balance of light and dark is somewhat related to animist ideas of holism and balance of the spiritual and physical through animist practice.
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>>582560987
>prolonging their respective fountains is a danger
How do you know closing the grand fountain that's been in balance with the light world for millennia won't start the anti-roaring?
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She looks very shiny here.
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>>582560752
Nyon
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>>582561010
sleep it off
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shove weebs head first into a garbage can for their own good
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>>582560987
Susie and Noelle are hitlerites
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>>582561010
he forgor
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>>582560859
Wasn't the original version of this something like "What is this? What the hell does any of this even mean?"
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>>582560402
the actually characterization comes from the conversations the characters have.
Also the symbolism and pantheon like storytelling and time travel shenanigans are some of the best ever in homestuck. But I'm a fan so I'm biased.
>>582560474
The characters have a lot more depth the farther you get into the story, the worldbuilding for sburb and the universe creating itself as a whole is incredibly kino, the flashes are fun, the internet flavored humor is quite good if you are a young millennial or old zoomer. The art and music are amazing and technically impressive when the style switches. Just as undertale and deltarune are homages to jrpgs, homsetuck is an homage to text adventures and the webcomic that came before it called problem sleuth.
It also has such a wide cast that you are bound to find a character you really like.
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>>582561369
I liked Spades Slick so I lost Homestuck
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>>582561157
toby first
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>>582561369
hs in general (at least early on) also captured the idea of internet friends so well
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>>582561431
whos the spic
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>dave
kris
>jade
ralsei
>john
susie
>rose
noelle
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>>582561141
The one in the closet that everyone but Susie and Kris somehow missed or the one in the bunker?
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how much longer now?
my fentarune chapter 666?
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>>582561364
no and you're media illiterate if you can't tell this is hastily edited in text
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god blue is so fucking ugly, thank god they dont get to live longer than chapter 5
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>>582561434
it's the journey that matters.
don't worry, after Act7, the epilogues, and the ongoing shitshow that is hs^2 everybody 'lost' (except for trans people that like ntr and implied beastiality). Homestuck is truly a tragedy at heart.
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>>582561784
>Average Deltarune player
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>>582561838
kek
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>>582561784
Heh... I placed my words in such an obnoxious way to intentionally get you to post the image because I misplaced it on my own device and could not find it... You've fallen right into my trap.
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anyone else going to play wow forever too?
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>>582561638
>>582561942
What a strange crossover.
At least we know Deltarune will be finished before HxH is.
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>No Gon
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Sex with kris
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>The hell is this guy's problem?
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>>582562381
just like the real manga!
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>>582561507
thank you for watching my dream
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>>582562292
Your dad fucks dead deer.
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>>582562463
You can fix them, anon. Smash that thussy.
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steam is such an attentionwhore when you open or close the app
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>>582562597
there he is!
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>>582562597
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>>582562597
I hate almost every Orange humanization, they take my precious cute wife and make her disgusting and a child
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>>582562701
Why cant thoys be that pretty
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Thank you for watching my night terror.
>*jumpscare*
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>>582562904
Anon that's a crossover with Orange and Gon from Hunter x Hunter
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thank you for watching my HMVs
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>>582561656
Castle Town is made by the Grand Fountain, but the Grand Fountain has probably not always been inside the school supply closet. Chapter 4 showed that dark worlds can extend to other rooms if doors are left open, and the closet doorway was not a standard dark world entrance when Susie and Kris first walked into it. The school probably has an alternate route into the shelter, where the Grand Fountain is actually physically contained, that's only been opened since the start of chapter 1.
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Hello, I'm a boy
And I like
Playing with my thoy
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It is funny how Frisk and Kris have to be really good at flirting but we can't actually see what that looks like because Toby doesn't want to accidentally give bad flirting advice to the kiddos
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>>582563264
monsters are just easy
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Skies forever snew
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>>582563264
It's because Toby doesn't know how to write romance.
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>>582562876
I do FUCKING love this image… quite…
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>Susie refuses to flirt with floraddin
>has no problems flirting with Pink
Kris gets slutshamed but Susie can get away with it #justice4kris
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>>582563264
He's doing that anime trope where the protagonist is desired by a whole harem of girls despite being unremarkable and looking like every other kid in class other than maybe having a unique hairdo.
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>>582563127
So then what makes it a grand fountain? Because it was first?
What's to assume that Flower King's fountain couldn't become the next grand fountain if it was the last one standing? As long as one pillar holds it all up.
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>>582563328
Not easy enough to like Sooz or Ralsei's flirts
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Frisk is a thacy, absolutely collecting bitches.
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>>582563480
One's a Floradinn the other keeps throwing super mega death bombs at her that's life and death man
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Toby is a fake weeb. He doesnt even have any japanese friends, he just hangs out with tranny whiteboy gamedevs in Tokyo.
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>>582562904
your precious cute wife is basically a 4 year old
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Floridinns are bushy degenerates
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>>582563742
Orange is much more mature than a four year old. She's at least a ten year old.
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I really think that the Titan could've been spared if the heroes had simply let it mount and use them to pleasure its huge clit. It's a shame a living creature had to be killed simply because it could not understand conventional mercy.
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ralsei is lying about only his """pure""" fountain being able to sustain other darkners he actually cast stoneshock on lancer and rouxls
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>>582563705
someone post the image of toby hanging out with all the japanese game devs with not a single other white boy in sight
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fave's degenerate bush...
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>>582563480
>>582563698
The real reason is that Susie ain't a ho.
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>>582563742
women just act like that
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Flowery = Stinkoman
Aqua = The Cheat
Yellow = Coach Z
Blue = Marzipan
Orange = Strong Bad
Green = Pom Pom
Seth = Strong Sad
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>>582561942
>>582562330
>>582562597
cute shota
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>>582563832
Please kill yourself
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>>582563762
>"its ok kris, no one else took your flirts seriously"
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>>582563921
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLjgC559WR0
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>people simp for this creature
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>>582563832
I looked at Queen's ass and I was happy, but then I looked at the post and I was sad.
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Kris' BHC could tame a Titan
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>>582563560
what's to assume it is narrative stakes
if it's just whichever is up the earliest and can be changed on a dime, then it's a false dillema
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>>582564224
12 Oz Human
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Urethra fucking the titans fat clit
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>>582564224
You'd be a fool not to
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>>582564412
nigga do you think the urethra is the clit
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>>582564412
clits don't have urethrae.
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>>582564353
I'm black now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzF3j0wQ6EU
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human creature (lovely)
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>>582564368
KEKED
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if Dess was dating a 16 year old at 22 could she ever be forgiven?
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>>582563705
>transphobia out of nowhere
your brain is strange
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shake the orange vigorously
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incredibly boring thread but the weather is so bad outside
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>>582564474
>>582564476
i think the suggestion is that the titan's clit is inserted into their urethra
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Gote horns problems
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little sister (hungry)
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>>582564721
It's still a few hours before bedtime but I'm too sleepy to actually do anything that requires effort so I'm stuck here and it is not a very stimmieful experience
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>>582564795
Was pairing them together in battle a Ratatouille joke
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>>582564476
>>582564474
Silence
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>>582564721
the thread will be better tomorrow
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I miss the flowers already man
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>>582564428
Maddie and Orange's relationship is genuinely beautiful.
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>>582562330
Cute loli
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>>582564857
Bro
https://files.catbox.moe/p43su7.mp4
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>>582564476
>>582564476
>>582564728
it's obviously a femboy titan so it would have a femboy clit with a urethra
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putting orange in my mouth, CRUNCH, silence
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>>582559979
>After 4 chapters of closing fountains against the wishes of those dark world inhiabitants, why was I supposed to feel any different about chapter 5's fountain?
Every prior Dark World ruler is pacified with the promise that they and their subjects will be given refuge in Castle Town.
That can't happen with the flowers. They don't get another chance to be alive.

>>582559979
>>582560238
>>582560241
>>582560534
You all played the game and you know why it was different, it came up several times and was plainly explained to you. Fuck off.
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What a slut!!!
>>582565008
Ftm femboy titan
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>>582563674
My cute loli wife!
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>>582565069
>Ftm femboy
so a woman
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>>582564485
Average Spamtenna interaction before the divorce
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>>582564245
Well I believe all fountains made so far, even the one in the closet, to all be from the same source (assuming its the bunker).
I can see the first pillar, the closet, getting priority as it was the first to draw from the main source, but all I'm really doing is speculating.
Far as I can remember, it's not like Ralsei really gives a reason to why Flowery should drop Flower King's fountain for his, but ultimately Flowery's fountain is Kris' fault and Ralsei has yet to address that, even if Kris doesn't care to defend it.
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>>582560534
She never said that
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FTM Titan Detrans fetish porn.
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>>582564961
This artist does incredibly cute stuff but their decision to depict Green's hair as a part and not a bob bugs me when bob Green is so much cuter.
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>>582565115
I will rape you
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>>582562657
I do too
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Deltarune will release tomorrow. Change my mind
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>>582564920
It was a high point of the chapter for me so I'm a little bothered that there wasn't even a hint of Pink at Orange's goodbye or after the Dark World was closed
I'm sure Rob will follow up on it in the next chappy and all but I want it now now now
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Toby be like
>Thank you for funding my dream...
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>>582565292
>I'm sure Rob will follow up on it in the next chappy
the next chapter is a serious chapter, there won't be time for one note gagshits
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>>582564474
yes my wife pees through her clit
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A beautiful family
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>>582565292
>I'm sure Rob will follow up on it in the next chappy
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Option 1: The Titan has normal female genital placement and when the player loses during the climbing sections, Kris falls all the way down and catches on the Titan's clit right on their crotch like those slapstick gags where a character is painfully hit by several things on the way down.
Option 2: The Titan has a vagina face (detail hidden for the censors) and if Susie were to jump with Kris just a little higher, they would slam facefirst into the clit and the Titan would convulse and glitch from the sudden pressure as Kris and Susie slide down with a noise like they're slipping from a wall right into the Titan's insides and the ending proceeds as normal.
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>>582565069
Tickle torture the flower till his cheats stop working
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okay man sure whatever
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Good night, anons. Have a lovely day!
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>>582565580
Please end your self
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>>582563832
you can't have a personal interaction with an object.

it's why I'm sadly not technically a rapist when I fuck my sex toy, doomer.
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>>582565438
someone didn't look at the noelle dialogue for items she can't currently have!!
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>>582565594
Tickle torturing flowery until he pees himself
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>>582557268
i never played disco but i like this a lot, cute
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>>582565703
Am I not focusing enough on the vagina, do you prefer cock or do you have something against titans in general?
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>>582563560
>>582565139
The Grand Fountains is made of "pure" darkness which allows (almost) any Darkner to exist there. It's special because of that unique quality.
The Flower Kingdom is just another Dark World made by Kris, it's not a place where all Darkners can exist and even the native Flowers are doomed to die without sunlight. There is no actual equivalence, Flowery is just challenging Ralsei and Susie's resolve as a "Hero" with inflammatory statements.
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>>582565862
That's phase 2 after his endurance drops to zero
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Can't wait for the Chapter 5 era to pass so all the forced doomer "Toby answer any question Toby will forget Toby will disappoint you" posting will go away
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>>582564857
if its a joke home come I aint laughin
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there are people that actually believe the Noelle item dialogue is content that was cut for time, and evidence that Noelle was removed as a playable character in 3-5 due to development issues and script rewrites downplaying her significance to the plot
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>>582558968
you can draw anon! i believe in you!
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>>582565115
kek.
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>>582566016
How many people are going to kill themselves if Dess Knight doesn't get unmasked/clarified in Chapter 6
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What if during your next Doctor's appointment, the physician looked inside your ears and said
>yep, definitely deltarune...
and didn't elaborate on that?
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>>582566126
didn't they just add the dialogue as they went along so when, in the future, noelle actually became relevant to dark world adventures they didn't have to add it all in all at once
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>>582565981
You make me shrivel up like a raised under the sun
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>>582565115
What you don't know could fill a library.
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>>582566260
Something is wrong with my wrists or I'm going to lose one of my hands. Or I have mysterious Rudy disease
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PISSING!
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>>582566291
Just like the Titan's clit under direct sunlight, how poetic.
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enslaving iwicdfag as a humanitarian in a refugee camp so he stops complaining and starts appreciating what he has...
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>>582566226
I won't kill myself but it will be rather inconvenient since I put all my Dess and Knight images in one folder based on the assumption that they're the same.
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Fave just died in Lethal Lava Land
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>>582566373
Why do you DO THIS to me
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>>582565173
You mean bangs, you retarded moid
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>>582565260
Oh no I would HATE to be raped by a bunch of ftm femboys
please dont put my hog in your gaping pussies that would be so horrible
Id be forced to think youre a real man if you forced me to eat out your boygina for like 3 hours straight
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i kinda don't care who the knight is because despite being a Big Bad they lack presence and any sort of personality. it really could be papyrus and i wouldn't care, easily the least interesting 'mystery' in the game for me
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>>582566126
>people are fucking stupid and don't understand how video games work despite Toby giving us unprecedented insight to Deltarune's development for years
Unfortunately this isn't news

>>582566287
That's a general justification but there's still plenty of Chapter-specific dialogue that will be impossible to see legitimately in the future, like the Chapter 2 teas
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>>582566226
I don't think anyone's going to kill themselves, but if they do they are weak. I mean it basically got confirmed in Chapter 5 with Seam's dialogue, we just have to hold out a little longer
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Reminder that Noelle is canonically an Invader Zim fan. Frankly, this explains everything.
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>>582565862
and then he gets all embarrassed :D
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>>582566537
He said what we were all thinking.
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>>582566528
Alright, rude-anon.
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the stock exchange crashes when it's revealed the december isn't the knight at all
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>>582566537
My pussy's not gaping... It has a normal amount of tightness for a grown adult...
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>>582566537
post feels off topic
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>>582566628
Noelle and Kris grew distant because she wouldn't stop singing the Doom song
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>>582566772
It's on-topic because Berdly posted it.
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>>582566295
A fool believes he knows everything. True knowledge exists in knowing that you know nothing. And in knowing that you know nothing, that makes you the smartest of all.
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>>582566516
I'm sorry, the opportunity was right here. I'll stop now and leave this for another day. Maybe leave it for when we fight more titans and the Titan Orgy fantasies can commence.
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>>582566762
undertale/deltarune? this isn't a tranny blog thread
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Moids are allowed to be retarded, it’s part of our rugged charm
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>>582566537
ralsei talking to flowery
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>>582566640
Pissingus!
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>>582566537
you will get large objects put up your butthole
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>>582566678
Really? Because I'm thinking you and him are embarrassing
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>>582565991
But what makes it pure? Because it was the first fountain spawned or because its connected to the bunker via a secret trap door that allows darkness to leak into the room?
I just think that there isn't actually enough information to go by anything, and that Ralsei never counters Flowery with relevant information means that there's something he wants to hide.
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>>582566934
flowery isn't ftm. he's not a girl who suffers from constant utis and other vaginal infections because the roids are drying out her vaginal canal
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>>582566964
me as frisk
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>>582566964
Why did Chara cheat in his minecrap speed run?
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>>582566904
>undertale/deltarune? this isnt deltarune
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>>582566997
It's never countered because Flowery needed a shitty gotcha moment. Susie doesn't really have a good rebuttal to him, either, despite the answer being very clear.
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>femboy
>no peanitis
?
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>>582566904
My pussy is so tight not even Spamton could fit in there
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i want to draw but i have like 5 overdue assignments so if you see me drawing today then please whip and beat me
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>voice canonically sounds like Hatsune Miku
Lol, get cross bombed, loser!
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I have clits on the mind now I hate all of you
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Flowery is female and pretends to be a male for Asgore
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>>582567174
that's crazy considering spamton is gay and not attracted to girls.
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>>582566904
The thread would be massively improved if you left.
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>>582567174
why would spamton be able to fit into a tight pussy more than others
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>>582567174
Is it tight or do you just have vaginismus? I consider vaginismus distinct from regular tightness do to it's status as a disorder
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>>582567165
Like an angel without its wings.
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Oh n-!
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>>582567346
That's what makes him such a good gynecologist, that plus the fact he can usually just waddle right in
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>>582567156
So it's Toby intentionally making something bad or that maybe all the real facts aren't revealed because Ralsei has never tried to hide facts from others.
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>>582567357
I can't be alone in wanting to kill the annoying dog ingame
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Clitty Clitty Bang Bang -Susie, having misremembered the quote, does not know what a clit is
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*waddles into my spamton shaped womb*
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>>582567487
Or it's just a spot of poor writing. Those tend to happen in even the best of fiction.
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Post fanart that goes extremely hard to improve thread
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>>582567156
Flowery is provoking them into taking a stand for their own dreams. Why should the 1-4 Darkners get to live and not the Flowers? Is it a simple numbers game for you? There are more 1-4 Darkners, so the Flowers should lay down and die passively? The point is that they are both fighting for equally legitimate ends and by fate’s decree only group can get what they want
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>>582567346
Ok then faggot how do you explain THIS then huh?
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>>582567589
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>>582567174
new shitpost headcanon dropping.
Spamton is absolutely packing, an absolute hog of a titan down below. but like any good middle aged salesman chasing the bag comes first, and he has incurable ED so it wouldn't even matter.
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>>582566904
This thread is only tolerable because of people like you. Thanks
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my pussy so wet kris and noelle went into it in chapter 5 weird route
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>>582567575
>Or it's just a spot of poor writing.
Considering the game isn't complete, I can just assume it's Ralsei omitting the truth for whatever reason.
Which we know he's done.
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>>582566904
get him
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>>582567469
you’re not a man inside you’re 19 and suffering from self image issues and dysmorphia no matter how much you want to deny it
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>>582567513
Noelle overhears her saying this and immediately faints
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>>582567747
*her
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Susie hemi clit fakeboy kris sucks and frots on ough
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>>582567589
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>>582567617
>Is it a simple numbers game for you
Given that the world is at stake and they're going to die in a day if left there, yeah. Sucks to suck.
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>>582567775
wow, forcefemming that egg, mega based anon!
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>>582567716
Why are you guiding teenagers in to your pussy? You should guide my tongue instead.
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>>582567624
if susie even bothered to bring a backpack to school it wouldn't probably look a lot like this.
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>>582567890
>>582567890
>>582567890
Hop on
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>>582567757
Schizophrenic post
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>>582567824
susie is already strong and cool so she has no reason to troon out
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>>582567761
another cool drawing ruined by doe hoe
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>>582566997
The Grand Fountain is special because we are told that it is and have observed its special qualities
Ralsei isn't hiding anything from anyone, Flowery's "argument" could have been rebutted with information that everyone knows already but wasn't because that wasn't the point of the scene. The point was to force Susie to reckon with the fact that her being a "Hero" means she has to shut down the Flowers' dream.
"What if the game is giving you wrong information to deliberately mislead you because ???" is not a compelling or interesting hypothetical to consider
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>>582567775
Tardanon respecting troons pronouns
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>>582567757
t. malebrainer desperately trying to repress
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>>582559868
>Amateur, so be nice in account bio
>mogs me
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>>582567963
>The point was to force Susie to reckon with the fact that her being a "Hero" means she has to shut down the Flowers' dream.
She's been doing that for 4 chapters why are the flower fags so special?
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>>582567963
>Ralsei isn't hiding anything from anyone
That is false, chapter 4 is proof of that.
I can't trust him on anything he says because of what he did in that chapter.
If he wanted to match Flowery's words with his instead of stomping around like a child, he should have done it. I have to assume that everything Ralsei says isn't the full truth.
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>>582568009
thinking men and women have distinct separate brains and they can be magically formed in the wrong body is 1930s tier misogyny
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>>582567824
I once read a fic where Alphys had two clits, I don't usually like it when they change pussies to be more like their animal counterparts but it was fine this time. You have to admit it's a cool visual, like the equivalent of a forked tongue for the lower half you know?
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>>582567853
I think you might legitimately be retarded. Flowery loves his friends. All the Flowers love each other. So they fight for their own and each other’s survival, to squeeze everything out of life that they can. If they had managed to defy fate in besting the heroes, who is to say they couldn’t beat the Knight and stop the Roaring altogether? Who’s to say they couldn’t find a way to survive in the Dark World? They are holding on to HOPE, even hope for a miracle
>yet the every daily hope that powered the flower man would never cower off of its path
and Flowery knows that he is more likely than not, rationally speaking, going to lose, so he does his best to help Ralsei and the heroes on their way as well. Even should he lose, his life will have had meaning
>even if broken I am more than glass
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>>582567589
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>>582568189
that's how trans "people" are sadly and that's why they keep trying to trans out every deltarune character
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>>582568189
>1930s tier misogyny
and?
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>>582568189
most tantalizing forcemasc target yet
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>>582568514
try me.
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>>582568514
you guys tried to copy forcefem without understanding it's a fetish and femininity is inherently degrading. masculinity is just being "natural"
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>>582568820
this
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>>582568620
I will shave your head BALD and make you wear a sports bra that is VERY TIGHT
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>>582568820
Clearly you haven't read the forcemasc fiction written by an actual gay bear about kidnapping a guy and making him bald and addicted to nicotine. (It's Asgore's alt account imagining kidnapping Rudy)
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>>582568973
>>582569043
Is being bald a thing in forcemasc? That’s kind of hilarious lol
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>>582569043
corny, shallow, and repulsive. just all around lame, this is why people hate you
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>>582569232
Yeah they make you slap your big belly and grill brats in the backyard too
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>>582569232
To be fair it makes sense, testosterone makes men go bald and marine recruits are shaved bald
>>582569297
I'm not a forcemascer, just putting in my two cents from what I've read
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>>582570173
the norwood knight...
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>>582566528
why are you *sniff* so mean...



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