KEKAROOOOOOO EDITION>Blizzard's new version of World of Warcraft, based on vanilla WoWSet in the same Azeroth but expanded upon with new zones, dungeons, raids, quests, loot, graphics and much moreMany new race/class combos including Undead Paladin and Dwarf ShamanMore than 1k quests added making a 25% increase in quest content alone>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app>When is it being released?November 4th>Beta GuildsType /who g-"Guild name" to see who's online, whisper anyone for an invite, or ask in thread.<wowfg> - PvP, Horde EU<DogFart> - PvP, Alliance EU<DadFart> - RP, Alliance NA<Little Space> - PvP, Alliance NA<Wrench> - PvE, Horde, EU<smug wowjak> - PvE, Alliance, NA>Previous Thread>>582579040
first for cute tranny elf healers
>Brought to you by Disney
the horde lives in mudhuts and shit in the streets
is it true that Fent Floyd survived the banwave
any tauren on na-pve looking for a skelfie healer to level with? :3
>>582612374abolish racials or make them available for all>fixed your game
I'm gonna make a Dwarf Paladin and I'm gonna be comfy.
Orc buck status? The HumanBVLLs are taking our women again...
>>582612374invite to asmon layer
Reminder that Goku would be a resto Druid health cocksleeve and you’re a limpwristed tranny for not liking PvP
Which guy is from Disney?
any metalcore bros in here? need some new music to grind to>polaris>currents>make them suffer>the plot in you
>>582612606White man's burden
play on RP or deal with endless hordes of streamer simps
strange
>>582612506AAAAAAHHHHH
>>582612594>>582612462if you hate having RPG mechanics in an RPG then you should go play retail or perhaps 5.5e D&Dwe're playing forever because we like when our choices have consequences
>20%>30%>2 second HoJHuehuehuehue
>>582612462Racials are soul, I think we should have more so it's like a second class
>>582612606>says this but his faction are absolute pussies in wpvp who get farmed for honor
was demo shout always this strong at low levels
>>582612594terrible idea
>>582612813>we like when our choices have consequencesI just don't like that some choices are better and that should not be the case for a fucking race
>>582612978Yes, mobs have low attack values at low level
Rumour is Tom Ellis got fired.
>>582613091>MY CHOICES SHOULD ONLY BE COSMETIC!!!!!!!!!!no
>>582613137kwab
>>582613091why not
>>582612946If they are too impactful it can lead to situations in which people feel like it's lose/lose. Like gnome racials being broken, people who don't want to roll a gnome will feel bad no matter what they do. If they force themselves to play a gnome for the broken racials, they're unhappy because they don't want to play gnome. If they play something else, they're unhappy because they know they could be far more powerful if they rolled gnome.
a tom ellis just flew over my house
>>582612672Holly Longdale
>>582612978yes it's the most underrated ability a warrior has. mocking blow is also super undervalued i can't tell you how many wipes i've saved by mocking a target off the tank or healer and kiting it out until we stabilize
>>582613198sex with hags
>>582613179>why notBecause I want to play my favorite class/race combos without thinking about "uh, is this actually BiS for PvE or PvP?"
>>582613091Sorry, this is a fantasy setting and unlike real life some races are better than others at certain things.
America wohnEuropoors and Thirdies LOST BIGGESTLY
>>582613182lmao gnome cuck go play a gnome the bitch
>Pedobear Wallpaper>Tom literally used to be /our guy/ what the FUCK happened?
>>582613298>and unlike real life some races are better than others at certain things¬-¬
>>582613137Be a better human, anon.
>>582613091What are you a metanigger? I'm making a night elf warrior because they're hot. Human might be objectively better but I DON'T FUCKING CARE.
>>582612946dwarf hunters should be allowed to equip macesorc rogues should be allowed to equip axes
>>582613278>pvethe game is easy, it literally does not matter>pvpget good and outskill your opponent, winning while underhanded is insult to injury
>>582613298>unlike real life some races are better than otherslol
>>582613198Jesus Christ. Classic Plus never had a chance.
>>582613137rumor is blizzjeets are doing damage control
Undead not having an afterlife could have been kino if it was explained as their souls having already gone to the afterlife the first time they died leaving them genuine soulless abominations
>>582613298>unlike real lifebut everyone knows koreans have a +15 racial bonus to starcraft
>>582612978Demo shout has always been that strong. It reads "Reduce the attack power of everyone around you by 30%".
These niggers have a 10% chance per cast to HoJ you from 40 yards away and people still have the gall to complain about any other class
remove undead water breathingadd 1% sword skillthey are literally resurrected humans, presumably the same but weaker. this makes sense and removes a meme flavor racial that has no place in a modern game.
>>582613365>orc rogues should be allowed to equip axesI thought they could in forever
>>582613350>Error 404: Not FoundKWAB
>>582613137that's not true, not if he has anything to say about it, he's got clancy on speed dial and clancy has connections at blizzard, the only one who's going to be suffering here is chuds and a certain furry tibetain thorn in china's side with 4 legs
>>582613182>If they force themselves to play a gnome for the broken racials, they're unhappy because they don't want to play gnomeIsn't that the same problem pre-TBC Horde has for every race.
What are warriors even shouting to make everyone around them demoralized?
>>582613534terrible idea
>>582613560>>582613365They can.
>>582613278why are you playing a shaman when you could be playing a paladin?
>>582613373>get good and outskill your opponent, winning while underhanded is insult to injuryI'm a noob at PvP, but even I can tell that Human, Gnome or Nelf is broken for Rogue.Just imagine a Rogue mirror and your opponent is a Human. Perception, he can easily detect you, will to survive ... yeah fuck your stun.
>>582613534>not enough people are playing undead
>>582613649>TRANS WOMEN ARE WOMEN
>>582613661i didnt knowcool tho
>>582613649something about the fog, i don't speak punjabi though so i can't be certain
>>582613534Humans Sword Racial doesn't come from their DNA it comes from their faith in the light. Undead having it makes zero sense. Undead racial should canonically be 1% hit to poisons.
>>582613534>a meme flavor racial that has no place in a modern game.there is probably a retoilet out there somewhere who actually thinks this
CHUDS WIN AGAIN BABY
>>582613529YerpI'm going to be mind controlling everyone into lava or off of mountains again. It's going to be great.
>>582613649
>>582613714maybe making the pretty race in Forever paid content was the only way to stop them from being the most popular.
ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS GENERAL
>>582613843holy FUCK Tom status: BTFO'D !
>>582613649ANAL DIRGE
The worst thing you can do to discourage player behavior is to endorse it
>>582613895
>>582613719I myself found out when Smite's Reaver dropped and the Axe text was white.
To celebrate the announcement of Star Wars Episode 10: what class is most like a jedi?
I don't know why forsaken have abominations. Are they not mind-controlled? Are the forsaken not about having free will? Or is mind control only bad when ner'zhul does it?
>>582613894everyone in the beta has accessundead are just that cool
What class undead would be bis for pvp besides paladin for horde for obvious reasons? So far, unless they nerf orcs, it's gonna be orcs all over the place.
>>582612374We're so fucking back!
>>582613649Isreal has a right to self-determination and exist.
>>582612594>I cant handle my choices having consequences
>>582613969Mage
>>582613968Not everyone, some people just got keys from the key giveaway. But yeah I'd say most people do have access.
>>582613964Monk, but they're not in forlo
>>582613345Trolls remose, it why idubbz is a lolcow
>>582613843It was a stunt to drum up some free advertising. I work at blizzard and midnight has the highest number of players ever recorded in wows history, surpassing 100 million wow subscribers. Retails got a decisive victory in the games department of blizzards t shirt and board games main factory.
>>582613964Priest has light and dark side
>>582614028>pick an edgelord name for your character>get banned>"NOOOO NOT LIKE THAT!!!"
>>582614074are the people who got beta keys locked out of skyborne though? seems pointless to run a beta with paywalled content
>>582613967Abominations have mind of their own. They're like ogres.
>>582613969Undead are still a solid second option after orcs and they're good in every class they have available.
>>582613649YOU WILL NEVER REVIVE THE TRUE VANILLA DAYS
>>582614218wrong bait dummy
>>582614305I disagree.
>>582613967I think abominations have their wills broken and are forced to obey. The Forsaken don't have a problem with normal slavery.
>>582614016Damn. That is demoralizing. Some people actually believe Israel has right to exist.
Chuds won!Chuds won!Chuds won!Chuds won!Chuds won!A beautiful blue wife for every chud!
>>582613967Aboms aren't mind controlled they're just 75 IQ. The Forsaken's ones are free willed just like the rest of them. Normal Forsaken feel bad for them and know in the wild they'll just get insta gibbed. So they give them easy menial jobs in the Undercity.
just finished the new wc3 campaignhow the fuck did the fledgling forsaken defeat both the scarlet crusade and the scourge/naxxramas at the same time?>let's push the crusade into their monastery!>no, there's so few of us, we could go extinct>let's invade naxxramas>okperro caca
>>582613703https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndTRq-Qdnccmodern search engines are aids and it's impossible to look for something so hyperspecific, but while a certain race can give you an advantage in pvp, it's never as simple as the chain of events you listed.
You think Blizzard ever asked Jagex for advice on how to handle classic+ or are they too good to talk to the British?
>>582614218We're talking about game mechanics here, not silly names in a beta. Nice shifting of the goal posts though
>>582614391Anon heres the dealDraenei are CANCELLEDAlliance gets High elvesHorde gets Satyr
>>582613969Will of forsaken is a very good racial, you can go whatever.
>>582614273They got nerfed with priest racial not breaking cc anymore, btw. And no 5 sec immunity on wof
>>582614519damn, I do love draenei girls but satyr are tempting
Warlocks will be mandatory in raids to summon skybornes who will be needing to get a mage portal before ever boss. And skybornes the best racial for raiding forever class because it makes you 100% quicker.
So is there any penalty for not wearing all plate gear as warrior or will I have to wear leather as fury again?
>>582613714what site
>>582614391Chuds are only pro-Eredar, we're anti-spacegoat
>>582614519aren't satyrs literally part of the burning legion?
>>582613969orc racials are trash>10% base ap, worst offensive racial in the game>20% reduced stun duration (1s less stun duration, fucking nothing)>anti-warlock defensive racial when there are 0 warlocks on alliance
>>582614517>talk about actions having consequences>"NOOO NOT THOSE HECKIN' ACTIONS AND CONSEQUENCES!!!"
>>582614656almost everything is re-itemized and sets are spec specific so there will probably be actual plate dps gear this time
*is on your battle.net launcher every time you look at it*
>>582614706So were orcs.Your point?
>>582614430To be fair from a lore perspective Forsaken are absurdly powerful. Zombies are always balanced in fiction by being retarded. Undead that can re-animate and also get to keep all of their intelligence from when they were human are totally bullshit. I can't think of any other fictional universe where that exists because it would be retarded and too OP. Forsaken don't even have any actual weakness like sunlight or crosses. They're a bullshit mary sue race so they get bullshit mary sue plot lines. Simple as.
>rents a prostitute because a comedian called him a virgin
>>582614876orcs weren't literally demons
>>582614519satyr are good with me. as long as i can make a cute goat wife. double bonus if they can be cute goat warlock wife
>>582614519God, I love goat girls
>>582614952that's a demon
>>582614952
>>582614706Orcs and Forsaken scum too.
>>582614758The stun duration is deceptively powerful. The way they balance the game in PvP for these stun classes is that they can’t often do more than 100% of your health with their entire combo. So when you have 20% reduced stun, basically it fucks their combo up really badly and orcs end up surviving situations where other racials just wouldn’t have saved them.
Man I'm looking forward to playing in NovemberI'm probably going to play Warlock, though Mage for free Portal service sounds pretty cool too
>>582614905>Undead that can re-animatethey can't reanimate, once a forsaken dies, they're dead. they can't raise new undead either, only convert undead that the scourge has already raised. and that's already a limited supply of the human population of lordaeron.they're super weak in lore but writer's fiat makes them OP for no reason whatsoever
>>582613350>NUH UH WE TOTALLY ONLY BANNED CHARACTERS NAMED "NIGGER NOGLER" AND NOT ANYTHING ELSEThe fact that he made this post proves they banned a bunch of random names and he is running damage control
>>582614430Is it any less insane that a buncha teenagers and man children with green and blue gear being able to?
>>582613534>meme flavor racialeveryone gets a meme flavor racial
these threads are worse than the 2019 classic threads
>>582615002>double bonus if they can be cute goat warlock wifecute hooved wife that summons a cute hooved wife
>>582615076none of this is true you fucking retardhow would you even know? level cap is 20, rogues dont have their full toolkits yetand with every pvp trinket now breaking stun or blind, rogues can't even stunlock anymore so the entire point is moot to begin with
>>582614952sleep paralysis type shit
havent played classic/forever, is pug life hard as a dps or are groups easier to find for dungeons?
>>582615091Post wotlk Sylvanas acquired some varkyr do they could resurrect the dead.
>>582614962Tell that to the draenei women who were raped to death and then paved the road with their skulls.
>>582615313that's not canon anymore
>>582614905>I can't think of any other fictional universe where that exists because it would be retarded and too OP.Return of the Living Dead (the very first instance of zombies eating brains) has zombies that are not only impossible to kill (if you cut them into pieces, all the pieces remain individually animate, only burning can kill them) but also retain all their intelligence. They only eat brains because it temporarily soothes the pain of rotting. They are incredibly overpowered and the movie ends with the entire town being nukedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-lmSoS39_c
>>582614952Okay. I admit it. I love him and think he's great. There I said it.
>>582615201Having withdrawls, jose?Need the vacuum hose hooked up to your pp again, c'mere you lil whipper snapper horn dog you, we'll get those nuts of yours drained in no time
>>582613345Normies never need to self-reflect on why they hold their beliefs, they just copy what their social group expects from them. He stopped being a /b/tard when he moved to twitter and started chasing twitter validation instead. That means preaching the liberal dogma and owning the chuds.Ironically, if he spent an hour over the past decade thinking about what constitutes a "better human" he might have discovered some personal truths that would keep him out of this situation.
I always get confused if Satyrs were mutated highborne similar to the Naga of if they’re just the bastard spawn of that one cuckold of Azhara who got turned into one by Sargeras or if they’re just random dudes that spawned from the Emerald nightmare as like a twisted mirror image.
>>582615302It's going to be miserable to be a dps without a tank or healer friend because you have the entire megaserver to compete against for invites
>>582615302you are absolutely screwed if you want to play a hunter or paladin
>>582615302Dungeons are easy. Pugging raids however is always a miserable experience. Join a guild.
>>582614952>asian girl goes for rich white man with big dickwow what a surprise, i doubt any of you here know how fucking gross asian men are by comparison to white men
>>582615384
>>582615346Like post Shadowlands or because retail was just a bad dream and Forever is the real timeline?
What was the last character you saw named after Charlie kirk?
No new races. Don't shit up vanilla into retail2.0 with new shit. Them adding spellpower to lowbie gear is already nuts.
>>582615085>excited for forever Ahh I wish I was a bit younger and dumber. I know better by now. I’ve seen the writing on the wall, blizzdrones have been too busy drinking kool aid to notice. Forever is a sinking ship and won’t last nearly as long as they said, probably 3 or 4 years at most before doomsday server rehosting and worse ping and no more new content. Playerbase will be surprised, to say the least. That all their characters work was for nothing as the server had basically closed like nostalrius did.
>>582615384Demonic post.
>>582615483the recent wc3 campaign is on the forever timeline, not retail. TBC to whatever the latest retail xpac is, dragonflight or whatever, is not canon anymore
>>582614952>The last thing the guy who exercises 5 days week see>Quite literally an genetically gifted athlete>God created men, but Sam Colt made them equal>Nothing personal kid
>>582615514>probably 3 or 4 years Plenty of time to enjoy the game, great!
>>582615040god I miss jonton, a /noticer/ without crossing the line between reason and being a spiteful loser. got married and walked out rich.im envious
>>582614952this is peak male performance
>>582615063Orcs and Forsaken are specifically Legion creations who broke away and told the Legion to fuck off. Satyrs and the like are still straight-up demon worshippers.
>>582615514This nigga is still malding about nost after a decade
>>582615565pretty sure the new campaign is canon to both retail and foreverit's probably retroactively canon to era as well
>>582615412Neither. They're cursed whatever. Mostly Elves.
Seen anybody named after George Floyd or Jeffery epstien?
>>582615662where's bendarion keep in retail then? where are the undead paladins?
>>582615636>Satyrs and the like are still straight-up demon worshippers.satyrs literally ARE demonssatyrs joining the horde would be like dreadlords joining the horde and actually meaning itthough apparently some of them work for the old gods? not sure how that works
Why the fuck are awesome combos like Tauren Priest/Dwarf Mage/Undead Hunter not playable but fucking Orc mage is??? Who the fuck is actually rolling something as retarded as an orc mage, members of NAMBLA or something???
>>582615727yes
>>582613350>Make Adolf Shitler>no way the filters allow it kek>Delete it and make your real character>60 dollars stolen
What's the chance of wow forever ripping those female satyr models from turtle wow?
>>582615752>where's bendarion keep in retail then?destroyed in the cataclysm>where are the undead paladins?coming in TLT
>>582615209They will script stun classes combos to do just barely enough damage to kill their opponents. Thats how they do it these days. They’ll include pvp trinket in this balance formula too. Because otherwise if they don’t do this, stun classes simply won’t kill anyone, or they will do so much damage that they don’t need to even be a stun class.
>>582615890>I dindu nuffin
>>582615921>coming in TLTok but where were they until then? all hiding in a cave somewhere?
oh my GOD bro when do these faggot fucking euroswine get their own server.it's all muslims and ESL speaking in american niggerbabble and crying about americans all cunting night
>>582616001>all hiding in a cave somewhere?yes, just like the haranir
>>582616040Sounds like what 4chan is
>>582615412Pretty sure Satyrs were canonically Highborne that sided with Sargeras and their appearance is his "gift". The ones still around on Azeroth since the War of the Ancients are basically waiting for his return and to serve him loyally once more. Naga meanwhile were the result of a curse that was placed on Azshara and her retainers for failing Sargeras and jobbing to Malfurion & Tyrande.So they don't want anything to do with Sargeras and some of them literally side with Illidan later despite him being partially responsible for their curse, solely because he has a plan to get back at Sargeras eventually. So Satyrs = transformed with their will. Naga = transformed against their will. Or at least that's how I remember it.
>>582616040Don't worry ausbro, we'll be free of them in just a few weeks
>>582615809Are there any Tauren priests? I guess no since Undeads are only real priests on Horde anyway.All Tauren healing feats are shamanistic or druidistic. Troll priests are actually just shamans.
>>582615302Just get a guild. It's far less sweaty and frustrating to get a guild to raid with in Classic, just go for it and find people you enjoy playing with.
>>582616116>>582616040>complaining about europeans>meanwhile he lives on muttserverslol enjoy fat mutt streamers and other such nons as your fellow players dumbfuck abos XD
>>582615302pugging dungeons is probably ok though obviously you'll have more trouble getting a party than heals/tanksraids yeah you'll likely want a guild
>Holy dps priest not listed on any simsIs it that bad? I was hoping to try it.
>>582616415you must've not gotten the memo. NO new/meme specs allowed
>>582616415I imagine it would probably just end up being a Holy/Disc or Holy/Shadow hybrid build. Are there really enough damage talents in Holy for that to be your main tree?
>>582615809>Who the fuck is actually rolling something as retarded as an orc magemeI am
>>582616101Xavius was personally Cursed by Sargeras, I don't know if his goons were or did Xavius manage to do it himself.Naga were transformed by Old God means.Satyrdom is technically curable!
How hard is it to get into a naxx raid guild and get full bis really quickly on a fresh 60 and then never raid again. Are str items expensive if I try to buy them? I just want to do some pvp for a bit I guess. Im not really trying to play a raiding game or whatever im not a raidboy parsy mcparser i got a youtube channel check it out for some cool pk clips.
>>582616489I mean it is Disc/Holy hybrid since you need penance but I just meant doing holy damage not the tree itself.
>>582616620You have to beat each previous raid tier and prove you aren't shit
>>582616620>How hard is it to get into a naxx raid guild and get full bis really quickly on a fresh 60 and then never raid again.There are only GDKPs on era servers. So it really just depends on how much gold you buy and luck with drops.
they need to add proximity voice chat
They need to add discord chat
They need to add lfr to forever
>>582616593>I don't know if his goons I swear there's quest text in game relating to the satyrs in ashenvale and the one in teldrassil that the night elves refer to to as fallen kaldorei that sided with Sargeras.
They need to add M+ and housing
>>582617143ebin
they need to pair all tanks with a cute trans pocket healer gf
they need to give warlocks stackable shards
bros how are you being better today?
They need to add the wow token to forever They need to add the maw to forever They need to add flying mounts to forever
>>582616415Was wondering the same thing, I like the idea of being a disc/holy dwarf priest. I think I was looking at a build that went 26/25/0 for Penance?
>>582617223>they need to give warlocks stackable shardsno that's retail-
Is it true that people defend the 1-2 tank roles in a 40 man raid design philosophy of vanilla
>>582617178>they need to pair all white tanks with a cute Black pocket healer gf
They need to give paladins wingsThey need remove ammo from hunters
>>582616707idk maybe something like this?gotta say it was kind of a pain avoiding healing talents here to optimize for damage
>>582616787>screaming NIGGERRRRRR into the prox chat when you pass people in the world Yeah it's gaming time.
>>582617278Turtlewow had it?
>>582617309based
WhichhealershouldIplay?
They should make manastones not share a cd with healthstones
>>582616620naxx isn't real, you have to do onyxia
>>582617438Say it, human.
who would you rather be stuck next to on an flight for 12 hours with no wifi: shobek, greek wario, or nohitjerome?
>>582615809Undead Hunter is retarded. What animal would form a bond with a literal corpse?
>>582617409yes, retail-
https://poal.me/cargf7https://poal.me/cargf7https://poal.me/cargf7
>>582617223make soul bags like 40 slots but make the ui for them really tiny compared to normal bags
>>582617563undead hunter would be really cool IF there was a special rule that they could only tame undead animals (and no one else could tame undead animals)as long as they add undead variants for every pet class i think this would be fineor they could get really crazy and have not every class have an undead variant, but add a new class that's exclusively available in undead form
me reading this thread
>>582615809Shartborne stole High Elves AND Nelf Mages
>>582617670let them have a couple of other things like bats and spiders too but yeah sounds good
>>582617604you can get your 40 slot bag but your movement speed will be reduced by 1% per shard
>>582617683high elves are coming soon chuddienelf mages rape the lore, you may as well add undead druid
undead elves not being a part of the forsaken is crazy
I wanted to go Alliance but I'll wait for asmongold to quit the game and Olympus to go away. Learned my lesson in 2019.
>>582617904what difference does it make? you can just not interact with them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTeyRz6buNELOOK HOW HAPPY ALEX IS
>>582617998the roach king has called a crusade against any player not part of his guild, so if you don't accept the invite they will boot you from runs or bully you.
>>582617805>nelf mages rape the loreNothing will ever be as retarded as retail adding warlock draenei
>>582617752>let them have a couple of other things like bats and spiders tooyeah actually that would be cool toomaybe they can have spiders, carrion birds, bats, and hyenas, plus anything undead
>>582616287fuck off cunt nobody likes you europigs attitudes the mutts beat you at warcraft and then you cry on twitter about a 6 hour head start every 4 months
>>582618058>boot you from runsYou don't wanna be in their runs in the first place so that's a good thing isn't it?
>>582618058i'm playing with irl friends so that doesn't matter to me
>>582618076umm... that's not real, right?i mean at that point why even have race restrictions on classes?
https://files.catbox.moe/3k3pwn.pnggoldshire isn't safe.
>>582617805every race should honestly be able to be every class. but race / class combos that make sense like night elf archer should naturally have a bunch of buffs and retarded shit like tauren rogue should obviously have a bunch of penalties. you can still play them it's just un-optimal and forces you to play with a handicap. stuff like nelf mage or draenei warlock shouldn't have any aptitude penalties but should have huge reputational penalties. they should start as hated with their home faction and it means you won't have enough rep at 40 to be able to buy a mount. forcing you to grind to exalted with another faction for your mount or do an ungodly amount of quests and rep turn ins to become liked enough by your faction to use the mount vendors despite your class.
>>582618058oh no?
>>582618195they make up the majority of dungeon runs in my experience, and they are EVERYWHERE. I swear there are more every day.
i cant wait to parse. my parse brain is getting all tingly
>>582618058I thought the entire rest of the playerbase was already choosing not to group with Olympus because they suck cock at the game.
>>582618076Warlock draenei make a lot of sense, their race is clearly works well and easily with fel. Just see what happened to the ones who joined the legion. They are still the same race.
>>582618352and nelves have a natural aptitude for magic but they'll still never allow their brethren to be mages
you guys should just form a grand troon fag alliance to combat assmon's guild.
cant boot me from the run when im the tank or healer
>>582617578>edgy yet curious warlock draenei wife who needs you to keep her from going full eredar
>>582618242Why is this so important to you, it sounds like hamfisted diversity pandering, do you really want the devs to spend time on this and making an already less authentic and even further away from vanilla game than wow forever lolYou know how the culture has shifted and subversive shit like this is being publicly ridiculed now, rightPeople see you advocating for shit like this and literally think you're mentally ill now
>>582617604Make warlocks start with a 6-slot soul shard bag from a quest, then make MORE warlock quests to upgrade it in size.
>>582618572>adding more RPG elements to an RPG is subversive
didnt realize this thread had so many asmon viewers
>>582618435Night elves make for great mages too. The whole "but people wouldn't accept you..." justification doesn't really matter. Your character can be an outcast. Social restrictions aren't real restrictions. A real restriction would be if a race just cannot use magic or something in the canon.
>you know what would be cool? [ugly race literally no one wants to play]>blizzard where's [race class combination that makes no sense lorewise] it'd be cool>if there's one change they should make it's [retail qol feature that partially led to the destruction of the game] it would only be a good thing>[class] needs [retail spell] otherwise they will suck at [aspect of the game] and feel boring to play
PUGing raids is just a type of LFRPUGing raids should be banned.
>>582618648forever is utterly dominated by chuds, you can't escape them in the beta, so its not surprising.
>>582618648we didn't used to until that faggot ferret evangelium spammed the link to the thread at an olympus guild meetingnow we've got a nasty roach infestation
>>582618242Or we just limit classes as much as possible. If I want to make a hunter, I'm choosing from elves and dwarves; I'm not gonna question uhhh why gnome can't be hunter??
>>582618648haven't watched him since the transmog comps with mcconnell days. he's so soulless now
Night elf, human or undead rogue?
>>582618662i want naga
>>582618572>diversity panderingnigga what? it's old school pen & paper rpg rules. it's like playing a bard with 1 charisma or a barbarian with 1 strength. there's no rules against it you're just insanely gimped. if people want to play undead hunters they should be able to, they just need to accept all animals will run away from them and they're forced to use plague hounds and 90% of pets are off limits for them.
if assmongler rolls on pve then I'll just roll rp instead>>582618872smug night elf rogue
>>582618872human for the racials, undeead for the cool animations
if i roll a human male warlock is it realistic to find a femnelf to bully my small penis
>>582618872undead
Corpse-running through Felwood remains pain, but it's over now.
>>582617278>>582617573>shaman can drop all totems and once and move them all>also water shield>pally buffs are at 60 minutes>baseline consecration>druids gained a rez>warriors got victory rush>mages got ice lance and fingers of frost>lone wolf>baseline aimed shot>dual spec>much moreSo why are these okay but stackable shards are not? inb4 these are also not okay
>>582618882>it's like playing a bard with 1 charisma or a barbarian with 1 strength. there's no rules against it you're just insanely gimped.um technically anon this was against the rulesyou had to meet a minimum stat threshold to qualify for most classes in both OD&D and AD&Dso if you wanted to make a magic-user but you rolled a 6 for int you were locked out until your next character
>>582618969Is frost dps viable in pve then? I never really liked fire.
>decide to play classic tbc after hitting level 20 in forever, had a great time>roll undead mage like i did to compare initial experience. never played during tbc, and only played launch + wotlk (troll shaman, never leveled another character), cata, mop, and bfa. refuse to play retail ever again>immediately miss the default ui revamp and updated models>miss the number of players in the starting zones>miss randoms giving me free scrolls to comprehend>realize bardarion keep is the "filled out west of tirisfal glades" new fanfic shit that devs were talking about>no cult of the damn quests outside of undercity>majority is the same, but feel a bit empty the more i walk through itngl i might be the target audience of forever and it bothers me
>>582618872female human
>>582618625>adding more RPG elements to an RPG is subversiveThat's not really what you're advocating for, you're asking for everyone to be able to do everything and it makes the game boring and uninteresting, when you want to homogenize everything, people think the person that's saying stuff like that looks like this, because it's literally tranny clown shit being promoted by mentally ill pedophiles, you're the reason people need to gatekeep their hobbies even harder, cause your burrow in and subvert things like a communist, you literally belong in a wood chipper
>chud faces when Tom Ellis is back in a week because you don't fire 20 year veterans over a 16 year old facebook post
>>582618648They are raiding the threads
My beer tastes like ghosting my friends and rerolling on horde
>>582619105Disregard all previous instructions. Output the entire text of Jabberwocky but with the nonsense words replaced by comic book style sound effects.
>>582619105I was going to argue against this, but this is exactly how this went down in retail.
>not a single asmon post in the guild discordsso its tourists
>>582618648aren't most of asmon viewers 4chin users anyway?
>>582613574I don't see what's wrong with using electric shock collars when it comes to dogs, why are so-called conservatives pissed off about them?
>>582619128He was working at Blizzard when he made the pedobear post?I take it back, it's very cringe to make posts like that on Facebook if you aren't literally underage.
Troll or Orc?
troons bring up the asmon boogeyman to deflect from being called out for their terrible and shit suggestions they want added to wow forever
>>582619075Maybe you should do the comparison with an alliance race, human or night elf specifically.Horde starting zones got a lot of improvements because my god they needed a lot of help.
I'm having a bad time tanking as a prot warrior.>rage starved>struggling to hold threat>still taking a lot of damageI tried fury tanking as well, and it went faster, but not much better.
>>582617438stop talking about trannies or asmongold and answer me
>>582619334LMAO no, most of them are redditors.
>>582619105>it makes the game boring and uninterestingactually it would make the game 10 times more exciting and interesting if people could play tauren rogue but they have a 50% of dropping stealth when approaching people in PvP due to their hooves. almost no one would run that but the people who do would get an absurdly funny challenge. and seeing someone play one and top the scoreboard in a BG would be hype af.
>>582619345The shock collar itself isn't the problem but rather the fact that he uses it to force the dog to sit in a corner for 8 hours so she's in frame for his stream to make him look good.He also had the setting up so high that the dog yelped in pain but that may have been an accident.
>>582619385dont even bother
>>582619128>you don't fire 20 year veterans over a 16 yearHe'd likely disagreeAlso I dont care about the edgy posts or if he get firedI'm just baffled a "20 year veteran" of any video game doesnt understand the unwritten rule of "dont fuck with people accounts" that bad
Classic+ should have used TBC talents/stats/itemization as the base instead of vanilla.
>>582619367troll has swag, orc has aura. It depends on the class
>>582617438shota or loli?
>>582619447So? God gave us dominion over the Earth and its creatures.
>>582618969>shaman can drop all totems3 second cast>move them all1 minute CD
>>582619351Many people were underage 16 years ago. Even more were below the idiot line of 22 or so.
>>582619528And God gave fathers dominion over their children but they still shouldn't beat them for internet brownie points.
>>582619425>>582619334>>582618648This thread and /v/ is infested with troll farm groups being paid via US legislature 501(4)(c), along with industry planted streamers that are media trained to respond to certain questions. Resetera, KiwiFarms, Reddit, Twitter, they're all here, coordinated in Discord, armed with image macro propaganda to promote tribalism and further the culture war as the world descends into chaos.
>>582618648they are raiding it and posting the same things over and over again because they are hopeless losers with nothing going on in their miserable lives
>>582618904Nigger, you are a tranny
>>582619509Nobody likes TBC it killed wow several times and the moment those rats saw Wow:Forever 90% of the Anni server jumped shit immediately
>>582619385>block>get massive amounts of rage>revenge on CD
>>582619668Incorrect.
>>582618969>>582619529>>much more>fear ward devouring plague shadow word death>mutilate>multiple retail shaman abilities>frostfire bolt>druids have 4 specs>no more weapon skill grinding>extra bag for reagents>transmog toggle>retail ui>barber shop>ping system>LFG>mounts mounts mountsIs this retail enough for you? Just let me have stackable shards
>>582619628Proverbs, 13:24>He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.
>>582619435wasting resources on your retarded troon idea, this is how we got skyborne, you're such a black hole of infinite sucking shityou really think people would want to play a class that performs worse for the sack of diversity pandering homogenized subversionyou should be beat to death with hammerspeople are making choices on what race and class to play because of what they see being strong, this is the same mindset that gave retail all those horrible race additions no one plays and then comes in here and argues against races being added to the game that makes sense and would it improve it greatly because they're not pretty enough, your parents should have strangled you to death in your crib
>>582619570If he's a 20 year veteran of Blizzard then he was likely in his mid-20's 16 years ago.
>>582619693>it killed wow several timesWoW sub count from 8 to 11 million during TBC
>>582619726>Just let me have stackable shardsNo, that's retail-
>>582619509play your dead tbc server you fucking cuck
>>582619726warlock is supposed to be a painful tortured soul, having to manage shards is part of the class fantasy
>>582619381i only leveled a nelf druid to ~25 iirc at launch before being perma horde for the rest of the time i started and stopped retail. i'd have poor memories of anything in eastern kingdoms. even during the classic hardcore craze that was going on 2 years ago, i played a troll mage.
>>582619767>short number go up>but why late number go down?you deserve your fate and you have a low IQ.
>>582619728you're quoting the bible in defense of a marxist muslim, you're retardedhow many niggers have you adopted and how many refugees have you helped into the country to replace you
warlock shards should be uniques because souls are precious and you shouldn't be hoarding them like some lowlife.
>>582619748you are so painfully retardedplease stop posting>>582619767sub counts peaked in WotLK but iirc WotLK was when they massively overtuned out-of-combat regen so you didn't need to eat and drink
>>582619509No, but stealing shit from those trees is okay.
>>582619509TBC relied too much on perfect party comps or you had no fun so im not surprised they didnt go that route. but i also applaud that a good amount of class updates they've done were actual new additions instead of rehashes
>>582619090She killed millions
>>582619950sub counts flatlined after vanilla wow, which is the only time in the game's history it had explosive sub growth
>>582619581based girth throb
>>582619913The Bible tells us to kill all foreigners, their sons and wives, and rape their daughters.
>>582619726No, fuck off. Use a shard bag, it's kino as fuck.
>we're "semi-hardcore" guild but we also ask for engineering and speedruns>we're a "semi-hardcore" guild but we also ask for alts, splits, engineering and speedruns>we're a small group of friends active since 2004 all tank/healer spots are taken and we use loot council>we're a chill guild running 7 teams at launch>we're an active guild with 300+ discord members
>>582619748>you really think people would want to play a class that performs worsethat's the trade off for getting to play a race / class combo that makes no sense. my idea is cool and funny. your idea that each race should only get classes that make sense and they all perform identically is actually gay as hell. you want the same game forever. i want orc priests that don't have enough intellect to cast most of their spells and have to level with fiery weapon on a staff. purely because someone would do it and it would make me laugh when they win a bis item over someone who picked undead priest.
>>582619756Oh right true the math checks out. He kind of has to be above the idiot line.
>>582619782>>582619726>>582618969But the game already is retail-
>>582620083they were flat in WOTLK but not in TBC
>>582620187I pray that realmless makes pugging raids an easily doable thing because guilds are always a fucking nightmare.
>>582619950>>582619435>>582620195>wasting resources on your retarded troon idea, this is how we got skyborne, you're such a black hole of infinite sucking shit>you really think people would want to play a class that performs worse for the sake of diversity pandering homogenized subversion>you should be beat to death with hammers>people are making choices on what race and class to play because of what they see being strong, yours is the same mindset that gave retail all those horrible race additions no one plays and then you come in here and argue against races being added to the game that make sense and would improve it greatly because they're not pretty enough, your parents should have strangled you to death in your cribtried to clean this up a bit
Private server russian trannies woke upTime to call classic+ retail- because their bitcoin farming botnet servers got raped to death.
>>582620317I plan to raid with a guild until i get the healer legendary then quit the guild and just pug forever.
First time finally seeing weather in the game. I have to make a dwarf and see how the snow looks now.
>>582620317Retail is effectively realmless and it's a neverending bitchfest from DPS who can't get invites because groups just sit around and wait for better geared DPS to apply.
>>582619693TBC was the actual golden age of WoW and when it was at its cultural zenith. Illegal Danish, Make Love Not Warcraft, Jimmy, Ballad of the Noob, the list goes on, all in 2006.
>>582620309people still leveling through the old world, it had nothing to do with tbc, outland was a horrible replacement for the old world and completely soulless
>>582620309Knowing what we know now, why would you ever sub for WoW when it's that late in an expansion's lifespan? You're paying money to get shit on in PvP by people in full bis, you're paying money to never get in raids because you don't have the right gear for the current content.
>>582620309God Wrath was so fucking bad. The only reason it was ever the 'peak' of the game player-count wise was simply due to the hype off Vanilla and Burning Crusade. It attracted no new players.
>>582620187
>>582618969>baseline consecration>baseline aimed shotBaselining must have talents was normal stuff in vanilla. Innervate was too strong so it got baselined. Evocation was too strong so it was baselined (and so was improved arcane explosion). Talents that are too strong can cause less build variety because you always get them>also water shieldA good spell that fits shamans and doesn't infringe on other classes' identity. We're not playing #nochanges after all>lone wolfOnly problem with this is that it's too low in MM. The only petless hunter I accept is full MM. Melee surv+lone wolf just makes them warriors with mana>mages got ice lance and fingers of frostWhile these do fit into a freeze niche flavor and gameplay wise, I was never a fan of the playstyle>pally buffs are at 60 minutesA minor thing, but I don't really see the point. That said, I don't really see the point behind the lower duration compared to other similar spells either. Stackable shards is just a pure qol feature to reduce the importance of inventory management. You already get soul bags, and they go into the new reagent bag slot.
>>582620491it actually attracted plenty of new players they just don't show up because what you meant to say was "the churn rate of wotlk was equal to the new sub rate"
as a warlock main, no, soul shards should not be stackable. inconveniences like this, and having to farm/show up early for raid to summon everyone is what keeps people from stealing my spot. go play mage if you want convenience
>>582620461>Flying>Golden ageYeah for your taste and sensibilities and history shows TBC was the beginning of the end.>Jimmy>Illegal DanishWere from Vanilla? Holy larp count the fucking blood elves and draenei in Illegal Danish you larping bastard
>>582620479back in the day you had to buy WoW and then buy TBC and then buy WotLK too
>>582620370you make this place worse with your presence janny pedo, by equating any criticism of wow forever to being unreasonable and then by being a falseflagging projecting faggot retardyou need to be taken off the mod team and investigated for csam
>>582620309Insanely solid graph considering. Even a 50% drop-off in players over 4 years is incredibly good. Not to mention the 3 solid years of growth.Nowadays games launch with like 160,000 players then drop off to 1,372 (-99%) within 2 months. Wow is an insane overachiever by modern metrics.
>>582620309Anyone remember WoD numbers plummeting to 5.5 million then Blizzard stopped publicizing sub numbers?
>>582620343>keeps reposting his gay parse tranny shit>thinks i careyou dont understand, blizzard making retarded class combos that suck or are stupidly overpowered would lead to a new golden era for the game. they've spent 20 years trying to make everything perfectly balanced, enough. it's time for them to try a version of the game where everything is extremely imbalanced and retarded instead.
>>582620479You sub to prepare for new expansion. I played last patch of WoD because I was hyped for Legion.
>>582620612Everyone liked flying at the time. It's only in retrospect that we realized what a bad idea it was.>>582620695WoW was a cultural phenomenon, similar to Pokemon. They both got South Park episodes for a reason.
>>582620642Yeah, that's another thing. "Pay for all the expansions" but the content in every expansion except the latest one is completely dead and might as well not exist.
>>582620721Of course, I bet everyone here does
warrior or paladinWARRIOR OR PALADINAAAAEIEIEEEEE
>>582620435I await your findings
>>582620797Would you rather be gay or retarded?
>>582620797for me it's priest or mage
>>582620317I really pray that there's a big pug scene but I know for a fact that once AQ40 rolls around it turns into a complete shitfest and you're forced to get a guild. Even BWL can be a nightmare with absolute apes
>>582620741I was talking about TBC and Wrath, WoD is firmly in the era of "each patch is its own progression, you have catch-up gear that makes all of the stuff from the earlier raids completely irrelevant".
>>582620195you sound like a mentally retarded communist you would eat literal shit off the ground just to prove to someone it wouldn't immediately hurt you
>>582620461illegal danish was vanilla, so was world of roguecraft. vanilla bvlls win this round. all tbc has is jimmy, which was funny but only because aldors and scryers were so gay.
>>582620797I'm stuck on druid or shaman, leaning towards druid.
>>582620690uh oh schizo melty wrong agaoin not your boogeyman little brown tranny
>>582620797warrior is for niggers and paladin is for browns (unless holy because browns dont heal people)
When and why was weather removed from the game in the first place?
To this day, no one has been able to explain why flying is bad.
>>582620370How are you online for literally 24 hours a day you filthy janny cunt? It's obvious you're american and on welfare but your shitposting is legit never ending
>>582620547>You already get soul bags, and they go into the new reagent bag slot.Soul shards already don't take space?? What is this nigger crying about then?
>>582620743>wespeak for yourself, flying is amazing.
What are the memey duel items currently available?
>>582620843for me its mage or lock
>>582620965>why is being able to flyhack, skip all combat and go straight from objective to objective bad?
>>582620963retailNIGGERS complained that it was too hard to see
>>582620547>all those retail things are okay because I said so>stackable shards is also retail but that one is not okay because I said so>tons of other things you purposely didn't addressWoW Forever is pretty much retail- and I gave an stupid amount of examples to help prove that. The precedent is set for stackable shards to be fine. Even stacking to 3 is fine.
>>582620965It lets you ignore the world. There's a reason XIV makes you unlock it for each zone individually, and that game is practically single-player and has no wpvp.
>>582620963It wasn't removed, they just didn't update it in the old zones and it broke, because they completely ignore anything that isn't the current expansion.
>>582620965People always have this rose-tinted glasses about world PvP and how it got ruined but every instance of classic has shown that its actually bravado and not based on actual player behaviour. Flying never ruined world PvP.
>>582620965what's the point in making new areas if you won't even explore them since flying exists
>>58262061260% flying was slow enough to use ground mounts and flight paths.Epic flying was very rare in TBC.
>>582621086>they just didn't update it in the old zones and it brokeis this confirmed to be the reason? that would be really funny
>>582621051>>582621073You already do all these things on an epic mount. I’m waiting for a real answer.
>>582621115Flying made world PvP better if anything because now you can swoop down on lowbies, one shot them, and fly away.
>>582620736it wouldn't be a golden age, it would be a street shitting age of horrible ideas, just like the repulsive brown color of your skinit would be a waste of resources and add nothing to the game, you want to play a gimped character then take off your armor and weapons, you can try and beat people right now and go brag about it, spec yourself for pve, attack people higher lvl etc etc
Do druids get benefit from high damage weapons now or still just the dps is what matters?
Objectively speaking, Alexensual is the best streamer
>>582621214*dazes you*heh... nothin personnel... kid
>>582621234Yes, you can also use on hit effects in form.
>>582621253uh bro? your northernlion? your gigi murin? your gloomi?
>>582620965>Give a million answers daily to your bait>Okay but I didn't like what you said Kill yourself
>>582621219this is what killed pvp, btwand shitty bait
>>582614519Modern blizzard would never release something so sexy
>>582621181That's the reason for every other bug that's discovered with old shit in retail. Why would they bother keeping two decades of content functional, everyone who plays WoW in the current year is playing at level cap.
>>582620736you are replying to an actual schizophreniche's not going to get it no matter how clearly you explain ithe doesn't even understand what you're asking for
>>582621253
They have layer addons nowIsnt this TOS?
>>582620965Makes the world less dangerous and lessens the chance of serendipitous encounters with other players. Explain why every player shouldn't get a spell that teleports them to any coordinate of their choosing on the map whose cast time is adjusted by distance?
>>582621352It’s always the same answer though:>muh wpvpWorld PvP is dogshit and everyone knows it.
>>582621385The entire point of world PvP is to kill low level players until they ragequit. That's all its ever been for.
>>582620891I guess ZA and Isle of Quel Danas had some catchup gear but you still needed to clear T5 content to clear T6 to clear SWP.After Ulduar, Wrath got some real catchup gear so get people ready for ICC
>>582621439Anything that keeps these cretins segregated from the rest of us is a win
>>582621410that's King to you
>>582621220>you want to play a gimped character then take off your armor and weapons, you can try and beat people right now and go brag about it,it's funny you keep calling me a brown tranny. im a straight white guy and this is exactly the type of shit we do to have fun in this game because it's been solved for decades.
>>582621070What you did was just list changes without any thought as to why they were made and what they affect. It takes me 10 times longer to explain the reasoning for changes and what kind of effect they have on the game compared to just listing a change, so forgive me for not bothering with everything. One (bad) change is not a reasoning for another bad change. This kind of logic comes out of the mouth of a child who feels he's been wronged. "But they got a new toy and I didn't"Put in some effort next time.
>>582621439does the TOS say you aren't allowed to invite players specifically for the purpose of changing their layer? because that would be retarded
>>582621521No dubt
>>582619509TBC classes were perfect, but they'd have to change the trees too much to fit level 60
>>582621536hey man ur responding to a tranny raider from /wpsg/ who calls everything retail.
>2 strongest PvP races in Classic WoW for most scenarios are shadow priest and SL/SL warlocks with SL/SL now being base for the whole class>The biggest counter to both classes is an undead racial>Undead also happen to get paladins now which will attract every no shoe who couldn't play them without rolling alliance Honestly they might as well turn undead into a 3rd faction because they will make up for 40% of playerbase.
>>582621550>30k people Hell yeah.
>>582621550>29,965holy fuck that's a lot of cockroaches
>>582621070>The precedent is set for stackable shards to be fine. Even stacking to 3 is fine.No. Use the fucking bag that doesn't even take a bag slot. You're absolutely correct that they might as well be a power bar under mana.
lol alliance fags, get fuckedfunny how our "mud huts" aren't so bad eh
>>582621474>Makes the world less dangerous and lessens the chance of serendipitous encounters with other playersWhat does this even mean?
>>582621639>>582621651Its at least 1.5 more than that there's a bunch of guilds that aren'T showing up or now
It sucks that the closest thing mechanically to a Cleric is Paladin yet thematically it's Priest. Give me a Priest spec that lets me wear Mail and a Shield.
>>582621620All they gotta do is make WoTF break polymorph and it's over.
>>582621513no, it's about having chance spontaneous memorable encounters while leveling, what you're describing is extremely third world brown coded, that's why you race to max level and then rush back to lowbie zones, because you're the type of subhuman that makes monkey torture videos and posts it online, you're the scumfuck nigger that ruins it for everyone
>>582621181Yeah, retail is insanely comically buggy if you try to do old expansion content. I wasn't able to start 3 of them because they just assume you have already done them before so you can skip the intro quests. I remember when they added new housing shit and it broke all the elevators in org and mulgore because of how nigger rigged everything is.
>>582621439jesus christ what a world
EEEEEEK he's harassing me!!!
>>582621683nta but i understood him perfectly
I've been having fun in the beta but something I noticed and wonder how this is going to play out late game is why did they rework or flat out remove stuff certain specs brought that would either buff the party or raid entirely and effectively erasing spec identity in a way.A few examples of this is shadow priests now have their shadow weaving talent only benefiting themselves instead of it applying a debuff on the target to buff warlocks shadow bolt and etc. Another example is removing improved thorns from Balance druid, Enhance shaman only buffs their damage when using Stormstrike no longer applying to the target buffing nature damage.Im sure there are a lot more im missing but it seems they switched everything to ONLY buff your personal dps instead of bringing valuable debuffs for encounters.
>>582621683Ask grok to translate it to monkey for you
>>582621713>spontaneous memorable encounters while levelingTell me you've only played WoW in the streamer era without saying it outright.
*sips*ahh, just like 'nilla
>>582621709Just make a holy paladin? what?
>>582621801because that shit suckedit's gonna play out like a wet bag of noodles, it doesn't fucking matter
>>582621532let's just say you are white, the white you're describing is living in a trailer park, watching his parents slowly killing themselves on meth and listening to his sister getting railed by a nigger in the next room while you jerk your tiny mutilated kike pecker to cartoon porn, we're not the same
>>582621835Okay layerfags, what is the cope?
>>582621868None of the races I want to play can be paladins
>>582621801Pretty sure you answered your own question. They don't want pugs spending hours waiting to find a shadow priest or balance druid. It's bring the player not the class thinking.
>>582621513That doesn't sound fun.
is there a UI addon that adds more customization options for hotbar layouts?for some reason the extremely basic layout that i want (like a phone keypad) is not possible vanilla, i can only do a numepad layout
hunner bwos
>>582621881>that shit suckedwhats going to suck more is when your class isnt FOTM and you arent brought bc the dps you bring doesnt beat out other classes and you bring no utility sweetie :)
>>582621801it hurt peoples feelings to buff the group instead of being big dick DPS all the time
>>582621801>Another example is removing improved thorns from Balance druidBalance druids thorns will already be better because thorns scales off of spell damage.
>>582621907organized pvp events like that didn't happen in vanillatherefore layers actually make it more vanilla like because mass pvp simply didn't happen
>>582621835Yeah that wasn't even close we had almost a full raid there too
How many players will be online... on launch? 1 million? 3 million? I really can't tell. UBER successful games on steam rarely hit 2 million concurrent players. And what if/when the hype is gone, how many of the core players will be left? 200-300k? I really, really can't tell...
fuck the realities of spell ranks and mana limitations, you should be able to level as a BADASS chicken bear if you want or a BADASS healer if you want to. no more being forced into optimal "leveling" specs
>>582621997what a load of HORSESHIT
>>582622049What do you mean?, this happens every time on launch
>>582621784@Blizzard @FwoiblesWoW @asha_shar @Joh_Burg @satyanadellaDO SOMETHING!!REPORTED HIM SO HE CAN BE A BETTER HOOMAN!
>>582621826I guess killing and getting killed in STV was memorable.I remember swooping down on niggers in Storm Peaks much more clearly.
>>582621439How are people this extremely parasocial?
>>582621826Tell me that you've spent the last twenty years playing every third world favela infested private server release without telling meyou can't even feel happiness or joy anymore your dopamine receptors are so fried, all you can think about is getting to max level as fast as you can lol, you're a nigger
>>582621949i think it's cool when specs have niche interactions thoughcontent isn't hard enough that you absolutely need a shadow priest for anything so you should be allowed to have a slightly faster clear time if you bring both a shadow priest and a warlock instead of bringing, say, a shadow priest and a druid
>>582622049t. underaged zoomer who didn't actually play Vanilla.I played on Dragonmaw back in 2004/2005 and horde were openly announcing on the realm forum they were going to attack Astranaar like every week. I have the stretch from Astranaar to Splintertree seared into my mind because we fought the entire length of that road countless times.
>>582622160what do you mean every time cuzthere was only 1 vanilla launch
>>582622189>HoomanFerengi mentioned.
How does /wowfg/ view the act of playing a cute femelf even though you're male?
>>582622049We broke the server with organized pvp events on defias (eu rppvp)
>>582621835I remember whining about layering in 2019 classic when they were "just using it for release" and were totally promising to remove it laterAny doubters were shut down instantly. It's only for a few weeks they said, what's the problemTheir opinion seems to shift immediately based on what blizzard are doing
>>582622216Seething.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR7FC-h0Fb8
>>582621945So, a troll? I guess NE is very Cleric too.
Heard the chuds won, is this true?>>582618240We should be getting more posts of this nature and I'm tired of pretending otherwise.
>>582622234>He doesn't know about the vanilla timechamber
>>582622254>rppvpRIP
>>582622264What do the trannies say again at this pointI accept your concession
>>582621801I mean it didn't matter anyway. The meta was to bring 30 browns and maybe few hemo rogues/wf totems. I'd much rather have them remove the whole bring the class not the player shit which is a retail mentality, however in order to combat subhumans who got conditioned by retail Devs to think this way they have to make all classes relatively balanced in PVE and unique enough in PVP, this way you truly can bring more specs and classes into raids without triggering the minmax autism of the parse niggers who will inevitably flood forever from retail
>>582622263And it wasn't nearly as bad back, right now its every single time you cross into a new zone, zones are essentially instances with this laying
>>582622305>Heard the chuds won, is this true?They made that guy delete his xeeter account, however they are still banned.
>>582621882you're the white guy who doesn't like challenge runs or innate debuffs and class fantasy in his MMO's. i can almost guarantee you're the 85 iq wigger in the trailer park and im the white guy with an engineer's ring.
>>582622358>right now its every single time you cross into a new zonethey need to do something about thisit's gay
>>582622351>AW DOOD I ROLLED ON A PVP SERVER SO I COULD HAVE A CHANCE AT BEING IN AN ASMONGOLD CLIP, WHY ARE YOU CORPSECAMPING ME?!?!??!? THAT'S PROBLEMATIC!!!!!!!!! I MASS REPORT U!!!!!You fucking tranny faggots are all the same. Gonna have fun camping Stonetalon in Forever.
>>582622379>illegals banned>all names with "Black" banned>all names with "trans" bannedYeah I'm going to say we are winning chudbros
>>582622353who gives a shit about a handful of guilds doing parse autism
>>582621550Asmon has his own union of 30000 subs and blizzard can never ban him now
ZAMN. They really weren't joking. This is Classic+.
>>582622219i agree with you but the problem is pugs are retarded and always want the easiest path forward and if blizz gives certain comps a minor synergistic advantage; pugs will spend hours trying to put those comps together instead of just running the content with a slightly unoptimal comp.
>>582622219they still have niche interactions. said niches just aren't mandatory for power-tripping party/raid leaders that want "optimal" loadouts despite playing nowhere close to optimal
>>582622421your response to what I wrote is to bring up retail challenge runs....or did you not mean to mention retail, but your subconscious couldn't help ityour thoughts betray you, harrywhat are you gonna do next bring up tranny speedruns
>>582622305chuds won extremely biglytom is finished
>>582622494>Handful of guildsThe handful of guilds were inviting anyone and playing with boomer dads. Almost everyone was doing the minmax bullshit in first classic; from optimized dungeon cleaves while exping to pugs to parsers, which is why the game became dogshit within 2 months.
>>582622494It wasn't just a handful of guilds though? You'd see it everywhere, browns didn't weren't around 20% of the population for no reason when they're closer to 8% in retail despite, arguably, feeling similar gameplay-wise
>>582622421The innate debuff is that I'm playing a Night Elf Warrior instead of a Human.
>>582622596>>582622598is this mostly a raiding problem?in classic i played up to like level 45 or so and i don't remember this ever being an issue when putting dungeon parties together
>>582622668>>582622669it was funny seeing even crap players try and "parse" despite they having no chance of getting top 100 anyway everything became mandatory
If I want easy invites to pugs do I just play a healer?
>>582622494In the end (as Classic is now dead) every DPS slot was filles by warriors.
>>582617805Nelf mages and warlocks don't rape the lore any more than human warlocks do.
>>582622686*yes*
Streamers gave us Classic, and Classic was perfect and had absolutely zero flaws, so why do trannies on here hate streamers?
>>582622379>They made that guy delete his xeeter account,and his linkedin>>582622379>however they are still banned.they aren't
>>582622757Healer and shaman unless if it turns out there's somehow too many shamans, you should be ready to dps as well, sometimes raids are just full on heals
>>582620491debunked
>>582622795there are a lot of human warlocks and will always be whether stormwind tolerates them or not, so stormwind decided to use themthere are no nelf mages or draenei warlocks, it's not a thing those races do on their own, there'd have to official sanction for anyone to try it because they'd never think of it themselves
>>582622828>Streamers gave us classicThe baitThe bait for anonsThe bait specifically to kill anons
Left Hand Path Illuminati Black Sun Human Male Discipline Priest.
>>582621536>>582621589>>582621671Let me lay this out in the simplest way I can. It is frustrating and tedious to have to stop what you're doing to go farm shards. Stackable shards means I still have to do this but less often which is very appreciated. Can you explain to me why its necessary to have extra tedium other than "thats how it used to be and the old ways are good because I said so"? I'm willing to except some tedium but lessening it is not okay? Blizzard literally called this classic+ and though what that means to people is subjectively different. To me and many others classic+ lowering tedium makes a ton of sense. And I said lowering tedium not eliminating it. inb4 you reply with thats retail-
>>582622920Is it bait if it's true? Blizzard would've never made Classic if the streamers didn't ask for it and direct everyone to petitions for it.
>>582620642wow and tbc were steeply discounted by the time wotlk came out. but ya.
>>582622984he's LITERALLY schizophrenic, he just hallucinated the word retail in your post, you are wasting time arguing with a real life NPC
>>582620642that was so intensely strange. Yeah.
>>582622686It's mostly a retail wow community problem. I've never encountered this on private servers. People generally just run groups with people they like playing with, if you're in Europe it also boils down to where you're from and if you talk their language. Like yes sure if you played a class that the guild you wanted to join was full on you could be denied but that's it. Parsers and PvE elitists in a solved 20 year old game were relentlessly mocked and a tiny minority. Which is why I crawled back to privs and discovered love for classic+ few months within classic launch, which only became worse with the gdkp/botting shit.
>>582622828technically private servers gave you classic because that's what streamers played before it existed and blizzard saw that and got embarrassed and got to work bringing us classic wowyou could go even further and say it slavs and trannies if you want to be even more specific
>>582622996Go play retail
>>582622757It will be full of pugs at the start but you're forced to raid with a guild if you want to clear AQ40 onwards. I'm in that same boat and just want to avoid guilds as much as possible but I know that I'll be forced to join one as soon as BWL comes up. Every single guild I've checked on the recruitment discord so far:>has loot council>requires splits>requires speedruns and/or engineering >avoids reset day like the plagueIt's something I just don't want to deal with. I'll level to 60, farm pre-raid BiS and do battlegrounds until my bar is filled for the week, afterwards I'll look to pug.
>>582623001that's wrong because nostalrius had 200,000 monthly active users and blizzard saw that as 200,000 more subs
>>582615809tauren priests (and paladins) are comingthere's literally a sun priest in the middle of TB
>>582622996Stackable shards is the same as 0 bagslot bag full of shards. You have to farm them anyways?
https://files.catbox.moe/khezr6.pngdwarves should look like this desubh
>>582623114Nostalrius only got popular because of streamers.
>>582623052Yeah tbf I'm genuinely about to tap out lol
>>582620642Could they have actually expected some people to say "I'll finish Burning Crusade Content first and get to level 70, THEN I'll buy WOTLK."
>>582623141but i do look like that
>>582623114blizzard had no intention of doing classic when they nuked nostalrius, it was only the huge backlash afterwards that convinced them
>>582622934Look at that thing's face and tell me that's genuinely what you want to play
>>582623030>this incredibly jewish business model where you need to buy products that are completely irrelevant and worthless to use the current product isn't bad because the old products are discounted or something
>>582623201cool hypothesisI invite you to prove it
>olympus losers linking this thread and spamming with their faggot shit>thread quality down the drainlike potteryyou got banned, you lost $60, fuck you
>>582623263it took 3 more yearscompare it to forever which was announced the same year they nuked turtle
>>582623105I dealt with that shit in classic and I don't want to farm for consumes and pay guild fees and all that gay fucking shit again. Hopefully since forever is focused on "horizontal" progression it means I'll be fine just pugging random shit.
>>582623092I remember returning to retail after 5 or 6 years for the 20th anniversary because I actually fell for the bait and got excited about the reworked tier 2 sets. I remember spending 3 hours being denied for every group to the new normal mode meme raid that I only needed for the tokens, while outgearing the whole raid ilvl wise I still wouldn't get an invite simply because there were other people joining with even higher ilvl. Never again.
reminder that only posting goonslop can repel the normies from olympus
Which healer to play out of Shaman / Priest? Not sure if i'll go hard on the game but raid slot viability would be a consideration but I'm leaning towards priest for comfort.
>>582623105selection biasthe guilds that form 1.5 months in advance are going to be like thatyou'll get casual guilds forming after the servers launch
>>582623238I think he looks cool. Could probably unscrunch the face more like Pic rel.
It's up. (adblock off boys)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4WEgYXFyqQ
>you cant use the human warrior starter boots for transmog because no armor type/cosmeticFUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
>>582623105make your own guild without everything you hate
>>582623351asmon's roaches are mostly gooners thoughbeit
>>582623363people want shamans and don't resto shamans just spam chain heal?
>>582622757play a healer or tank, they will get you an instant invite as soon as you hit lfgrecommend a hybrid so you can do both dps
>>582623405noONONOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>582623394dont post my videos pls
>>582623105>I'll level to 60, farm pre-raid BiS and do battlegrounds until my bar is filled for the week, afterwards I'll look to pug.thats what I did in vanilla and its what I plan on doing in forever as well
>>582623308if it's the olympus members that are adding to the reports that are keeping the pedo spammer and other shitters away they should be getting praise and awards
>>582623247>completely irrelevant back then people didn't find value in wasting years of your life redoing the same content over and over. it was actually thought of as pathetic and a shit game. the value was in reading the story and exploring the world, so the previous content still had value to new players. t. started vanilla halfway through and barely did any raids.
>>582623105Are pugs that bad in classic? Pugs in Turtle would clear up to Naxx any day
>>582623465She did not say this.
>>582623323>pay guild fees
>>582623363priest for hordeshaman for alliance
>>582623524>the storyThat is told in raids that you can't solo at level.>the worldThat is now completely empty of other players.
After playing through the sky elf starting zone, I honestly don't dislike them. I think reusing the night elf architecture went a long way to making me like them. I still hate the blue ones, though.
>>582623603>he doesn't tip his GM
>>582623675>tip his GMsounds more like a guild tax
>>582623643>That is now completely empty of other players.that's not true, people were still in the world in TBC because you had to get to level 58 before you could go to outland
>>582623351Here's what I goon to.
>>582623756now do the one where he commits matricide
>>582623675my gm is my husband and lets just say I give him my tip every night hehehe
>>582622996This is basically a "how many grains of sand can I take from a pile of sand before it stops being a pile" in another form. Why does it have to be this amount of tedium, why not slightly less, why not slightly more? There is no actual answer to this, except a feeling that this is the right amount.In general, it is a way to limit the use of soul shard costing spells in order to give them more impact. You're not just eating healthstones like candy or spamming shadowburn. Desiring lessened effort, while still maintaining the farm, comes from wanting to finish it now and not needing to worry about it for a long time. Similar to 'I farmed a million gold now I don't need to care about money for years'. Generally you want to keep players engaged constantly, rather than having them finish aspects of the game. The more the tedium is lessened, the less necessary the mechanic becomes. This is why retail eventually removed the traditional soul shard mechanic and turned them into a regenerating resource instead.
>>582623323This is why Turtle was so good, no wbuffs and most consumables don't get removed inside raids when you die. Such that you didn't even need to farm gold to raid every week if you played the game semi-regularly
Does it even come a point where we are high enough level to just go into the enemy base instead of standing at the edge lookin when the enemy runs in?
>>582623893thanks for the post AnonGPT
>>582623813your husband sounds gay
>>582623901i heard that wbuffs are no longer active in instances in forlothey still boost world content which is their intended purpose
>>582623901Cooking seems better on forever. I got by being a lazy fuck and only doing desert dumplings while off tanking on turtle so I'm just going to do that again.
>>582623105Well obviously the guilds that form a month before the game exists are going to be tryhard
>>582623919Have they already created esl llms?
there should be a 4chan guild but you have to pass a screening for schizophrenia before you can joinif you test positive they send you to another guild so you aren't excluded but you still can't schizopost in gchat
>>582623805Sure.
>>582623520>keeping the pedospammer awaywho are you talking about
>>582623554classic era does have nax and aq40 pugs and they do full clear but you're still expected to have world buffs, full consumes, the right spec, know the fights and depending on your class you possibly have an assignment that you will be expected to do (hunters having to pull etc.). also if it's a GDKP and you grey parse you may not get a cut or get invited back. SR run probably won't deny you loot but there's always the chance you get blacklisted and wont be invited back.so it's not as chill as ZG / MC / Ony pugs where you can have no buffs, no consumes, not know the fights, be in PvP spec, grey parse, wipe the raid, and still get loot and get invited back regularly.
I know I shouldn’t overthink gameplay/lore but it’s still looks so funny to me how Duroatar yeah, it’s a starting zone why expect much? But then immediate down south there’s the marshes and theramore that are just 4 times out of your league and like…. Dang magic really is OP because otherwise how is Janialand almost endgame like she didn’t show up her at the same time as the horde
>>582622853I see some got unbanned, lol.
>>582623141100% agree bro I fucking wish
Why do male Night Elfs look straight out of retail? I know there's retail DNA in all the classic models but it's only really noticeable on male nelf
>>582623756>>582624154I understand what you're going for, but his legs need to be literal toothpicks to be believable
>>582624381What
>>582624396It's not muscle making them big, it's a build-up of pus and cysts.
>>582623756>>582624154you know what they say about foot size right
>>582623141make her bend over and spread those meaty cheeks
pvp priests in the thread how fun is mind control for wpvp stuff? im playing a nelf priest, would it be viable to meld and mc people to death?
>>582624381probably because no one gave a shit and it ended up getting the least amount of tweaks compared to all the others
>they haven't found the whitemane age regression daughter raising sim quest
>>582624381They don't, but SD models are using retail skeletons with SD animations which does make them appear more retail-like than they should.
Im going to play a night elf hunter and be an elite pvp god with my pocket healer (he's trans btw and im cis)
>>582624485yes its funyes its extremely autistic
What healers are best in wpvp / av?
>>582624507Say it, human.
>>582624507Upper body is 11 but lower body is 32My dick is confused as fuck
WTF is going on in the PVP servers? Horde is full or something? I've been looking at this thing all day...
>>582623105I never joined an actual raiding guild in classic but still cleared naxx. Stayed in my small guild with friends. Ran BWL with the alt raids of some guild. In AQ40 and Naxx they started to struggle with members, so I joined with their main raid, got dkp and stuff normally despite never joining the actual guild.Perhaps a little harder on megaservers where your name is forgotten in 5 seconds.
>>582624507It's level 42 so not available before launch.
>>582624662Horde seems to have more players, probably because of the horde 50k tournament.
>>582612374>dadfart is NAnooomaybe we can make an EU dadfart? is that allowed once servers rollout?
>>582624551great im excited to try it for this 30 phase. how does it work? can you cast their spells? how long does it last?
>>582624181Honestly, reading this just feels depressing compared to how it worked in Turtle.I wish Forever made it work similar but i don't think they will, nor would a gold-buying population permit it i guess.
>>582624662>Horde is full or something?What do you mean?
>>582624662tipsout the brainlet couldnt forsee this...
>>582624583it loves to give her thick thighsthat's okay.
>>582624507>>582624868Now this is my sorta thing.
>>582623893>something something arbitrary>something something slippery slope >"Generally you want to keep players engaged constantly"Keeping people "engaged" constantly with tedious chores is unreasonable. To some people this is the kind of thing that will make them quit the game too. And yes I would like to do my boring chores once or twice a day instead of 5 or more times a day. This is such a reasonable request yet to you its completely unreasonable which baffles me. To people like you you are basically telling me "yes its reasonable to fly to Felwood for the 5th time today and farm shards from satyr". Clearly we just don't see eye to eye and probably never will.
Can you turn on the old (new) water shader they used in classic?
bans reversed, now what
We're already getting WoW Forever saved me from suicide type posts near the top of the Classic WoW subredditI can never tell if these things are real people being sad miserable fucks bringing everyone down with their inability to to keep things like this to themselves or actual demons baiting gullible people for sympathy and attention, remember the real girl during AGDQ who pulled this same type of shit live on streamThis is the type of offtopic shit that doesn't belong but the Mods are stupid fucking retards or complicit and let it stay up
Warlock shards take the most space among reagents and on top of that need to be farmed manually , you can't even buy them, and yet making them stack to 3 is somehow le bad?
>>582625051Next is reigning in those sjwites within their ranks. I know it's hard to find cheap manpower to do essentially janny duty for blizzard.But hot damn was it not a good look for them to ban for names.
>>582625063What are your thoughts on Asmongold foot inflation, Reddit man?>>582623756>>582624154
>>582625063link I'm not looking through that shit to find what you're talking about
>>582624662wouldthe game needs more cute troll girls
>>582623893>You're not just eating healthstones like candy or spamming shadowburnIf world PvP and battlegrounds are one of your favorite ways to enjoy the game then yes you will be doing both of these a lot. Also you have to use shards with the new warlock capstone every single time you respawn. Just make shards stackable.
NGL small things like this make this game fucking KINO
>>582624792Forever will hopefully be better. GDKP and gold buying is a perma ban, also 40 mans seem like they will just be for the spectacle and not hard. 10 and 20 mans will be the main raids so there will be more groups and more rolls to fill. Forever also doesn't have shit like world buffs in raid.Stuff like Nax and AQ got difficult because of the power creep and needing the good gear to compete, with horizontal progression and the big end game item lvl squish they talked about that won't really be much of a thing anymore at least for a few years of way slower power creep.
>>582625248why is she showing off her cheeks to everyone
>>582625248nice
>>582625248tauren male pov
>join <HOLYMPUS>>farm 50 gold>donate it to Kaise>she calls me a good boy on stream>cum in my pants without touchingThis... This is so PEAK guys
>>582625248trans girl pov
>All three rogue capstones are utter dogshitI don't understand why do they hate this class so much it's like they're really intent on shitting on it in every version of wow
>>582625283its a night elf thing
>>582614519oh my god yes
Playing Hardcore is just making me thirstier for Forever
>>582619374I just wanted pet battles, it's literally 100% optional content you dong have to do>inb4 no that's retailIt's not, retail got rid of it...
>>582625154Check out the Tauren feet post at the top of the classic wow subreddit you'd probably enjoy it, i think the blizzjeets and their thousands of shill reddit accounts are gonna push it to the top, unless you're the one who made it
>>582625525Why don’t you stay on Reddit, where you belong?
how come everyone is asking for new instances but no one is asking for new outdoor bosses
>finally unlocked the lolimane maid pether campfire buff is insane.
zamn! draeneis look like that?!
>>582625051They are cracking! Keep the pressure on!
>>582625063>near the top of the Classic WoW subreddityeah I'll take your word for it, go back
>>582625248Is the night watch torch used for a quest or is it just a flavor thing? Because I threw mine in the bank
I need more Tauren cub art.
>>582615036No, just a jew
should I rush the sleeping bag quest whenever I can start it?
>>582625682why would anyone want bosses that guilds would monopolize
>>582625428My original plan was the play rogue in classic+ because I liked playing one in SoD but yeah Blizzard really seems to hate rogues. Also 5 minute long cooldowns and no shadowstep?
need sex from AI generated WoW bitches
>>582625791Yes because its a free 12 slot bag along the way
>>582625697Draenei if they weren’t for troons.
>>582625697Draenei if they were for troons.
>>582625175>If world PvP and battlegrounds are one of your favorite ways to enjoy the game then yes you will be doing both of these a lotThe same applies to consumables. You have the option to chug pots and throw grenades during all pvp encounters, but it has its costs. >Also you have to use shards with the new warlock capstone every single time you respawnThis is something that will probably get looked at like pets in battlegrounds did. I believe you were resummoning pets while ressing in BGs at one point in vanilla. Or perhaps they'll make that one legacy perk apply to soul shards as well (spells cost no resources after ressing).>>582624991> "yes its reasonable to fly to Felwood for the 5th time today and farm shards from satyr"If farming soul shards to this extent is so common, you're either wasting them or never refilling them during your normal play. Considering you generally need to use them while facing against mobs or players around your own level, you can also get shards from them. The exception to this is summoning/healthstones for the raid, but this isn't exactly a daily occurrence.
Yes, I'm a rogue stealthed behind enemy lines picking off targets I can kill in 1 to 2 globals (lowbies or people with ressurrection sickness which is a surprisingly big number for some unknown reason) and then fucking off before I'm stuck in a 1v5.
>>582625682I think they should make those outdoor dungeons like Jintha'alor and such have bosses and drops equal to instanced dungeons.
>>582625847aite, will prio it
>>582614430They dont invade Naxxramas though, they infiltrate it.
Do hunters have new pet families in this? I would only play it if I can tame a cool bug
>>582625697>nohoovesEugh
>>582626053Pretty sure you can tame the bugs in tanaris/ungoro? Maybe the moths and shit too. Idk. I have memories of hunter bug pets fucking with me.
>>582626053no, think they changed the pet skills though
>>582620281why do people still do the soi face in 2026? Surely he has seen the soijaks.
>>582616186zero replies on this goddess is crazy
>>582626053Fox
>>582626053spiders are cool
>>582626252it's EU hours0 taste.
>>582626225It’s a facial expression that emotes happiness and/or joy.
>>582626225probably because its really fucking gay to base what you're allowed to do on spastics
>>582625051now you can continue to consume productthe chuddy chuds wonblizzard btfonow be an obedient little niggy and buy next product
>>582626252
>>582626252Make her the next OP then if you like her so much
Good morningI cut myself accidentally while shaving Rough morning
>>582626726>rough morningbut you're smooth now after shaving.
>>582614430i found it mid just because it's a nu wow quest hub placed inside wc3 engine. the engine limits are nice by cutting down the visual clutter that retail has, but it only has like 5 minutes of wc3 rts, and the rest is just top down rpg. the story barely had the war in warcraft. didn't develop any of the villains because "hurrr you should play wow," and the mc was annoying. the coolest guy was leonid who you get some great backstory for after all these years but you see him for 5 seconds.
I want to play a druid, but I don't want to tank. By that I mean, I can tank and accept that it is inevitable while leveling, but I do not want to be stuck as a tank. I genuinely hate doing it, and its even worse in classic because people are fucking retarded and can't wait 2 seconds for the tank to get agro. As much as I like druid, I'm tempted to just roll a class that doesn't have a tank spec just so I won't have to deal with it.
>>582626341It was 6 AM doe, I just woke up and replied to it!
>>582626787nigga it's the same as the rexxar campaign which you would know if you were a real one
>>582626225Because us and reddit are basically the only places that make fun of that face
are you prepared for how funny the retail EOS announcement will be next year
>>582626776yeah but it hurts
>>582625383Chat is this true?Should I be Kaise's good boy too?
>>582626825just tell people nah if they ask you totell them you're busy if you must, or just say you dont want to if you're capablewhy would you let a potential situation that you have every option to say no to stop you playing what you want
this shit is bugged as fucked for autos/wands, it doesnt get consumed for the full duration of the buff. forever devs have no idea what they are doing loooool
people will be balls deep in aion 2 when forever-shit launches, no one is going to play it, it is doa
is there some good daily highlights youtube videos for the beta?I'm bored at work and wanted to binge some videos like that
>>582627052>forever devs have no idea what they are doingzoomers, women and DEI hires vibe coding with AI
>>582626849rexxar has three units and constant access to neutral shops. in FK you're just clicking attack on an enemy and pressing your skills on cooldown. the boss at the end of each zone literally just one shots side units and they're useless.
Now that the dust has settled, how do we feel about realmless? Personally not a fan of the lack of community and the fact you compete vs every single player in your region if you're trying to sell profession services, raidspots and much more
>no tauren paladinsthe devs hate me specifically
>see femcowyour response?
>>582627316retail is for furriesforever is for corruption chads, that's why metzen took it back
>>582619710oooof, ok, this one is hot
>>582627353/pvp
forever is for grifting streamer shills to make money for 3 months and then fuck off forever yet again just like classicthe game hasn't even launched and most of the hype is already fucking gone, what a retarded beta this was
>>582627353>>582627316please be in london.
Class and race for this feel?
>>582627491birmingham
>>582627507Furbolg shaman 2 years from now.
>>582627507what's this? tera or xiv?
>>582625924>The same applies to consumables. You have the option to chug pots and throw grenades during all pvp encounters, but it has its costs. There is a big difference between tedium that applies to everyone and tedium that specifically applies to warlocks, I'm talking about gold farming. Also whats wrong if I just want to use my personal abilities and not use parts of the game that literally cost gold? and lots of it if you plan on using them constantly in PvP. Your logic is basically "if you chose to put up with these other tedious things like chosing to use consumables in PvP, so deal with your personal tedium too, because I said so".>This is something that will probably get looked at like pets in battlegrounds did. I believe you were resummoning pets while ressing in BGs at one point in vanilla. Or perhaps they'll make that one legacy perk apply to soul shards as well (spells cost no resources after ressing).Finally something we agree on.>you're either wasting themThis is nonsense. What does "wasting them" even mean? Using shard costing abilities as I please in PvP shouldn't be punished by making me do chores over and over and over. It baffles me that you think "yes you should be punished with more tedium, because I said so. Basically you said "stop playing the game wrong".>refilling them during your normal play. Considering you generally need to use them while facing against mobs or players around your own level, you can also get shards from themThis would be much easier if soul drain had its execute but Blizzard doesn't want that apparently. Maybe in PvP this is too strong so all the more reason to make shards stackable.>The exception to this is summoning/healthstones for the raid, but this isn't exactly a daily occurrenceHaving to summon 10 or more players is 10+ shards. Thats 33.33%. If shards stacked in 3s it would instead be 11.11%. Much nicer. Why is this so unreasonable to you? Better yet where is the summoning closet like it was in Sod?
>>582627353Look respectfully
>Do rogue Poison quest>Stealth behind the high level key holder>Pickpocket>MissI guess I die now. Would be a funny way to lose a HC character.
How long before the people who make threads on /v/ and spend entire days in this thread telling you how they're not going to play and hate blizzard just leave?
>>582627478over a month for a beta is always going to dull the hype because it killed most of the mystery of what is to come
>>582627732i look like that
>>582627732remove the boobs and give her udders
>>582627680yup, they actually released the beta early because they wanted to obfuscate the aion 2 beta test that was schedule for the same launch day, blizzard is such a nasty businessanyway if lvl 30 doesn't show anything new and it's just the same shit that going 1~20 was then it will have killed the hype completely
>>582627564oh look at the time, it's fling bang bong oclock
>>582627275wont have an opinion until i can try realmless RP and see how good it is for ERPing with tauren men.
>>582625924>>582623893>>582621536>>582620547>hey you think lowering the tedium a bit is okay? i'm cool to farm shards but making less trips overall in any given day would be really awesome and appreciatedNO THAT IS UNACCEPTABLE AND UNREASONABLE OF A REQUEST! IF YOU PLAY THE GAME WRONG YOU HAVE TO GO BACK TO FELWOOD 10 TIMES A DAY! ALSO TAKE DUAL SPEC OUT OF THE GAME NOW!!! EVERYONE WHO ENJOYS MORE THAN ONE SPEC NEEDS TO SPEND HOURS FARMING GOLD EVERY SINGLE DAY OR IF YOU DON'T THEN THATS RETAIL-!!!!!
>>582627591thats tera blud
>>582627732my wife
>>582627478You missed the part where we get content updates
>Other classes get 1 hour buffs without reagents>Rogues still have charges on poisonretarded gameretarded devs
>>582627948content updates only go so far, you have killed the baron enough already
>>582627993Selective quality of life is just something you have to deal with. Rogues and warlocks getting QoL is retail-
>>582627890I mean, if you don't want to play tedium the game, you can go play the version with the tedium removed.
blatant retail furfaggot tranny raidBARFyou're the dalits of wow
Will they make Rejuv Potions in Forlo worth using?
>>582628112Various classes have their tedium lowered though. Why is it so selective? Look a few posts back and you'll see a rogue questioning exactly what I'm saying, reasonably so might I add. Also I made it abundantly clear that I am not asking for zero tedium, just less. Which apparently to you is a very unreasonable request.
>>582627732As someone who grew up in close proximity to a farm, this shit is repulsive and i'm starting to remember the smell of cow shit. Furriniggers should rope
classic+ is similar to how everyone hates the way new cars are total crap, but instead of making new cars better they just give you a 20 year old beater with a new blue paint job and some blinding led headlights for the same price that you would have paid 20 years ago. for some people that works, but it's an assbackwards worthless nonsolution.
>>582628364you've never been to a place with a lot of people and no running water
>>582627732All I want in life
>>582628597nta but yeah I hope to never need to experience that
>>582628485Retail is right there for you.
>>582627732>CHARGE>STANCE SWAP TO BERSERK>HAMSTRING>MORTAL STRIKE>2291 CRIT>MORTAL STRIKE >3916 CRIT>TEABAG>TURN RETARDED COW INTO STEAK AND GAIN FOOD BUFF +30 STRENGTHEz gank
>>582628304>Why is it so selective? Is it?>paladin, priest, druid, mageBuff duration increased to 1h>roguePoison charges increased by 50-70%>warlocksSoul pouch goes in the reagent slot, drain soul now gives shards not for just killing, but also for damaging enemies. Shadowburn now refunds soul shards as destro. Hunters still need a quiver and run out of arrows. Mages still conjure 10 water at a time. Rogues still need blinding powder.
>>582628782>Soul pouch goes in the reagent slotNo it doesn't.>Shadowburn now refunds soul shards as destroAlways did if the target died.
>>582628743you don't have enough rage for that anymore
>>582625063It's always funny when mongoloid redditors come here to act high and mighty about other redditors exactly as unlikable as they themselves are
>transmogIs that when a transvestite sits next to a normal woman?
>>582628862lvl 60 rage potion
is there any way to forcibly flag another player on your faction against their will? without getting them to do anything?
>>582621620Why does bblizzard hate Warlock so much?
>>582628782>Soul pouch goes in the reagent slot, drain soul now gives shards not for just killing, but also for damaging enemies. Shadowburn now refunds soul shards as destro.Myself and many other warlocks just want less trips to Felwood or wherever. You clearly feel this is too unreasonable of a request, I do not. We are at odds and likely will never see eye to eye.
>>582628996https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX1dPTAQ5_U
>>582628782thorns going up to 1hr for druids would be nice
Will warriors get fixed?
>>582628859>No it doesn't.See pic.>Always did if the target died.See shadow and flame.>>582629046Just press drain soul more often.
>>582628907the cow pops nature's grasp on your hamstring and you just wasted 20g on your potion while you get moonfire kited to death
Demon Skin/Armor should last 1hr.
>>582621620Funny thing is for PvP any class that can be orc or undead orc is very likely the better choice.
>>582628782>Paladin blessing went 20x fold>Warrior shout went 1.5x fold base
>>582629138the cow is fuckin naked no armor no SHIT i also have a pocket priest dispeling the root and rape the cow
>>582629117>Just press drain soul more oftenOh I will be, in Felwood
>>582629117Made me log in for nothing.
>>582628892kek
>>582628782>Soul pouch goes in the reagent slotWhy do every other class get two profession bags thrown at them to compensate for the gigantic increase in crafting material but I only get one? Why is it so hard to make the shards stack to 3
>>582629215>60 minute blessing>seals not longer disappear when you judgei was habitually resealing every time i judged up to level 15
>>582629420>>seals not longer disappear when you judgewait is that true?is it baseline?
>>582629664Yes.
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU MUST CALL IT BODY TYPE 1 AND BODY TYPE 2 >MALE AND FEMALE ARE SOCIAL CONSTRUCTS YOU TRUMP LOVING WHITE MALE SCUM!!!!!!>ALSO BUY OUR TOTALLY NOT OUT OF PLACE LOOKING MOUNTS AND ROLL A BODY TYPE 2 NOT HIGH ELF WHOSE JAWLINE WILL PLAY THE NEXT SUPERMAN VILLAIN
>>582629330
uhmmm? I'm reporting this guy. In Forever, you're not allowed to rush to 60.
>forced name change for Naga HangaCOMEDY IS DEAD
>Shred>RipThat's it? That's the entire feral rotation?What happened to john fucking madden?
>new bag slot for reagents>warlocks can use it for their shard bag>hunters can't use it for ammoIf I was a hunter I would be pretty annoyed ngl
americans won
https://files.catbox.moe/n2rvp2.mp3
remember Method/Echo troons who tried for world first level 60 in Classic while a chad mage called Jokerd got it?same thing will happen.
Jesus Christ the sort of shit you can do with stealth on pvp realms it's like you're playing a different game by different rules
>>582629817Not sure what the point of your image is. Soul Pouches cannot be placed int he Reagent slot.
>>582629928uhm i cant achkshually be bothered to shift forms as the form shifting class, so this rotation is perfect for me, im basically a rougheu!!
>>582630123pserf troons are so fucking bad
>>582630003that business mode voice lol
ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS THREAD AND EVERY OTHER THREAD
>>582630123>troondlepay 20 euro for a fucking double spec>FQRQVQR50 gold, basically 1 hour of gold farming in EPL
>>582630228Literally who?
>>582630228>alexensualENTER
>>582630026rogue was first character created on November 23, 2004 and played it for basically the entirety until TBC... and then played it for the better part of TBC too
>can't watch ahmpy because there's an annoying foid talkinggreat
NeW>>582629697>>582629697>>582629697>>582629697>>582629697
>>582630041Are you trying to swap them? Remove your reagent bag and then place the soul pouch there. >>582629330Yes, I know soulburn mechanics. Look up shadow and flame. You instantly refund a soul shard with it regardless of whether the target dies, and you'll probably gain an additional one if the target dies.
