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ah shit, was distracted again...

How are we gonna keep alive until November if we can't remember to hoy? We can't let the gachas who make 12 threads a day kill us.

hoy dance

Hi I want Yoko to piss in my mouth forcing me to swallow by pushing it down with her feet and bite my ears while fingering my ass and grinding on me, then go down on me and smear her lipstick all over as her tongue moisturizes my skin. She would later let me bite her tits while calling me a good sissy as she gently strokes my hair, that's all.

>>582857976
>>582275114
I really don't get it
Smt4 is fine, don't get me wrong I definitely played worse rpgs but the ai is fucking broken, the characters lose all personality, the world is annoying to navigate, the difficulty is backwards where its one of the easier games past its intro, It reuses a dungeon 3 times
Simply dad calling smt4 a masterpiece but hating apocalypse genuinely makes no sense when apocalypse is just the better game.

>>582879586
Also alt toyoko is not that clever, its just here are the 2 ideologies to retarded extreme degrees wow don't you feel stupid for not being a neutral chud

>>582879660
Any story which dabbles into alternate/multiple universes is doomed tbqh.

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We are getting a pc port done before atlus does anything

>>582884079
I can't wait for the bitching about AI thread #328472834

>>582884458
a fully decompiled pc port of digital saga would be insane with all the mods

>>582884974
Do people even really like to use all that mod cancer? I get it for games like Skyrim where you can even just add new "fanmade DLCs", but for more linear games it's just replaying the game with stupid shit on top. I saw some videos of the twilight princess mods and I was cringing. Who even cares about "dual wielding swords" the game is gonna play the same anyway it's not Devil May Cry.

>>582884079
https://github.com/Megami-Decomps/dds-decomp
its 1 and 2

>>582885634
Lewd mods are extremely common even on a first playthrough.

>>582885634
Idk I think hes really overestimating how many mods will be made for dds
Probably a few generic model swaps that are only funny when you're 12, and like maybe less encounters.
Mods are extremely overrated and I usually slowly remove them as I play any game with a ton.
I played persona 3 fes for the first time like 6 years ago with the party control mod emulating and than found a ps2 copy in some store and picked it up wanting to replay it earlier this year.
On the drive home I remembered "oh fuck" how will I play without party control, and spent 2 hours google searching how If it was possible to load a mod on a modded ps2. Finally said fuck it and started the game with no party control.
Bro the game plays fine with the tactics menu, more than fine actually.
I realized I probably should have trusted the expert game devs on how it was supposed to be played instead of some tranny on the internet

>>582885634
QoL, graphics and lewd mods are extremely common and that's before you even start the game.
>Skyrim
80-90% of the mods made for it are either lewd or can be used for lewd purpose.
All the vídeo of the cool shit you see on youtube is only the tip of the iceberg.
>I saw some videos of the twilight princess mods and I was cringing.
Most of these vídeos exist to farm views.
>Who even cares about "dual wielding swords" the game is gonna play the same anyway
Some mods can and do change how the game play but those are often extensive.
>Do people even really like to use all that mod cancer?
Yes but if you dont like it, no one is forcing you to use them.

>>582887876
>I realized I probably should have trusted the expert game devs on how it was supposed to be played
The same devs that will later add party control to P3P?

P3 and P4 undub were pretty popular mods back then.

>>582888164
Only original and fes play okay. Skill cards completely destroy everything.
Party control wasn't needed

Gooner mods are stupid. You will literally have a better time just jerking off to actual porn

>>582888492
Actual porn doesn't feature the specific waifu in a given game.

You guys are not thinking right. We will have crazy shit like demon fusion implemented and demon recruitment

>>582888641
Modders are not God's. I highly doubt anyone of them will be able to port that in without it being super janky and 3rd world

>>582888385
>Expert game dev

>>582888641
That's an extensive feature to implement and based on what I've seen, the only modders willing to put that kind of effort is either the chink doing the demons mods for VV or only care about Persona.

>>582888784
Its too much player power. Its how we got to reload just letting players deal 50k damage with a single button press
Skill cards were the start

>>582888714
>>582888784
ai has already put mw2 and skate 3 together. Minecraft in elden ring. Two games with same engine and assets wont be that hard

>>582888891
I get what you mean but I'm saying that the devs dont always know better than players.
In fact, you're doing exactly what you're denouncing by saying that the newer games play worse/are too easy.

>>582889031
You can play whatever ai nightmare you want but it will always feel wrong since dds wasn't made with those features in mind

>>582889031
You still need someone that will bother to do it.
The VV chink may do it but if he doesn't, I dont expect anyone to actually do it instead, despite everyone technically having the means to do it thanks to AI.

>>582889138
Im just putting my foot in the sand, the only decent playing nu sona games is ps2 p3 and p4
Skill cards and super fucked p4 shuffle time completely destroy the intended difficulty curve that the entire games were made around in the older versions without updating to enemies to keep up.
Going back to my original post, adding in party control via a mod also slightly upped my player power hurting the intended experience.
Hell the only reason fes weapon fusion doesn't hurt the curve because the system is practically hidden from a player like nobody is going to know the best way to get mass nihil weapons and what persona to combine it to what specific weapon to get a ultimate unless you played the game before, or read a guide. You also simply Dong have the player levels to really take use of this system until like September anyways.
And even that is pushing it.
I wouldn't mind all of these additions if devs just upped the enemies too to compensate but these additions are actually intended to nuke the difficulty despite these games not being really that hard to begin with.

>>582889631
I actually have a problem to pick with simply dad how can that NIGGER say p3fes is a top 5 difficult smt game
Its really not that hard, like the only actual egregious difficulty spike is the table and thsts just because you are prob 10 levels below it.
I can name 10 atlus games not even just smt harder than p3.
Fucking trauma center is more of a bitch

>>582889631
Once again, I get what you mean, I'm just saying that the "expert devs" adding party control (and making the games easier) ultimately means that they are in opposition with you.
It doesn't matter if there was a mod about it before, the devs made it legit and forced it upon everyone.
>I wouldn't mind all of these additions if devs just upped the enemies too to compensate but these additions are actually intended to nuke the difficulty despite these games not being really that hard to begin with.
Which is you saying that you know better than the devs
And yes, I also agree with you but atlus clearly doesn't.

>>582889818
I dont like S-Link, it's impossible to max them all on a first blind playthrough and they're IMO the hardest thing about these games. They also make replaying those games a chore.
The combat part is serviceable outside of meme puzzle fights.

>>582890696
I never really took that you were supposed too, my first p4 playthough the only non party members I maxed out was the 2 sports guys so the entire ending when the game is flashing all of your bonds blah blah blah and has sections where its Just your non party members its just these 2 fucking guys off to the side going you can do it lol.
Very funny train scene

Still no smt 4/4a HD single screen re-releases to modern platforms but EO got them is crazy.
Makes me want to get into eo waiting for these fags to finally pull the trigger.
No re-releases and offical translations of the snes games is still crazy to me. Surely they have a few dollars laying around.

>>582891231
It fucking sucks how Atlus doesn't put maximum effort into making sure all mainline games are available for modern platforms, the most they did was put SMT 1 on NSO and that was Japan exclusives, I wish atlus treated SMT like ID software treats Doom, aka make all the games available for everyone to play.

>>582892612
To be fair, Doom has a following devoted to make it playable everywhere, including your toaster.
It was even used to trap a fly into the game.

>>582879586
it was zoomer's first SMT

>>582888385
>Party control wasn't needed
The tactic system adds absolutely nothing to the game, every time I see this getting talked about the defenders say that
>it doesn't even change combat all that much, because you can still control which actions your team takes and doesn't
Well then why is it even there in the first place? I can already exert my control over the party members so just hand me the wheel and let me drive. Tactics just make something straight-foward obtuse for no benefit.

>>582895860
Its barely obtuse and it does slightly make the gamer harder objectively lbecause persona 3 one more system requires all targets from party wide spells to be hit unlike later games and versions which you only need 1.
So knock down command makes party members use single target attacks that have higher accuracy burning more sp than just a simple brain dead player hitting mabufu instead

Its a game made for teenagers, you're a grown ass man
You can play with the tactics system which the entire games combat was designed around.
You will be fine.
Anyone who says it doesn't work is lying and anyone who says it always gives you what you want is lying.
But rolling with the punches like ahhiko using a suboptimal debuff or healing someone you were going to balm anyways is part of the game

No controllable party members, no buy

No demon party member, no buy.

Str builds are gay
I go magic or dex

>>582879586
>the ai is fucking broken
what do you mean?

>>582903416
Its extremely easy to exploit and its hard to not notice it when you see how it thinks
Essentially bosses can't use powerful moves unless you buff
So playing like a retard and not buffing actually ends up making the fight 3000x easier which just feels lame.

>>582903510
oh. 4 was always on the easier side, even without knowing that. do the fights at least go by faster with buffing or is the time wasted on buffing and healing significant enough that it doesn't matter?

>>582904716
Its probably a massive time loss buffing/reviving and rebuffing
I completely destroyed the back end just mashing generic magic attacks with one heal demon lucifer didn't even have the damage output to kill anyone
It was really pathetic

>>582884079
good, at least it'll look faithful to the original

bump

hooooooy!

>>582874373
Not quite the same, but I sometimes fantasize about being killed by Chiaki. I like to imagine her asphyxiating me by stepping on my neck with her joots while staring at me with a look of absolute disgust, then spitting on my face as I die.

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>>582922038
>stepping on my neck with her joots
I kek'd

Anyone here have played super difficulty mods like Nocturne Insaniax?

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how and on which stats should I distribute points into for a magic build?

>>582926627
Maybe one day.

>>582926828
Probably magic

>>582926627
I played Maniax and did not like it. Insaniax is supposed to be better but I'm not pirating the demaster just to check it out.
>>582926828
>2 points in MA and 1 point in LU
>2 points in MA and 1 point in VI
Alternate between the two as you level up

Smt4 decomp is the only thing I cacare about for this series at the moment. And debbissa localization

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>>582930165
>>582929324

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UOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHH

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Sex with Amane

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>>582949748

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nyooo....

>>582953234
N-neigh....?

I like Zeus design, but only the white statue side

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>>582949748
ロリ友達の好きだよ

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>>582956986
私も好きですよ

I am the biggest faggot in this general.

>>582963630
alicefag...

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>>582963630
you can't outfag me

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>>582967223
Not even canon.

>>582967223
There nothing gay here, just demi-fiend helping Isamu get rid of his tummy aches by rubbing his belly.

>>582857976
i just got killed by arachne after filling out the entire map in smt 1. i think this might be where i just give up, i don't want to do all of that over again...

i'm looking at getting into this series
is there any way to look at which demons can perform which roles or functions when teambuilding? e.g. tank, damage, healing, debuffing, elemental weaknesses, etc

>>582978391
That's not really the focus of SMT. You mainly care about buffs and debuffs. Everyone should have elemental resistances. It's very obvious what demons are magic or physical attackers when looking at their stats also. You also want to make sure you have a healer. Your healer can be any demon really, even the MC.

I remember that strange period of time when people thought Koshimizu was adult Demifiend

>>582980153
but aren't demons categorized by both race and alignment?
don't those have a factor in what they're good at?

>>582976915
...i immediately went back and beat her easily, without her having a chance to hit anyone in my party once, yet somehow i have half the mag i had when i tried the first time?

>>582963630
quite an accomplishment

>>582983098
No. Race and alignment can sometimes change between games for absolutely no good reason. It has more to do with their mythology or role in the game than anything game mechanic related.

>>582980153
>You mainly care about buffs and debuffs
how important are they? from what i'm reading in-battle stat multipliers like those granted by rakukaja or tarunda tend to be 1.4 and 0.7 at the most significant, and i've seen no use of status effects in any boss fights

>>582987724
It depends on the game but they matter because of press turn. If you crit first, or hit a weakness first you get an extra turn. And if the enemy does that first instead he can chain attacks and keep going. But that's also why choosing your party based off their elements is also very important. You want to null or reflect attacks whenever possible because that also removes the enemy's turns. But press turn is only a thing in Nocturne onward, not in the earlier games.

>>582983098
You might guess that a fairy race demon is more likely to have healing spells over a tyrant race one or something, but it's not a rule. As for team composition and selecting for spells in general, you will mostly have to figure it out through trial and error. Most things you are asking about you can easily figure out for yourself in these games. So don't worry about it and experiment, bro.

>>582978391
Unlike Pokemon, where you pick and choose your favourites, in SMT you'll want as many demons in your party as possible and they are all fairly disposable, you fuse two demons into a stronger one about as soon as you can.
What you are asking for only matters for end-game superbosses. For the most part, playing SMT is like having your pokemon evolve into a completely different species every 4 levels or so. The very special ones you might want to hold on until the end of a section you'll recognize as they usually are "special fusions" but again, you can dispose of them and it wouldn't be a big deal.

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reasons why i haven't done much progress on raidou

hoy needle

one more hoy rejected

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https://youtu.be/bva9xHrEw78

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turns out... little demon fella

We're so close to the art book...

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>tfw i wanted to mod stalker by replacing mutants with demons
>so much bullshit to do for one enemy
>immediately give up

>>583018602
Fairy Burer

>>582978391
Damage dealer, support are the only actual 2 ways to build a demon
They are either trying to output as much as damage as possible or they are a heal/buff/debuff bot
Your protagonist is going to be your go to but you can build them a few ways like a full agilty/speed status bullet spamming damage dealer dodge tank or my current smt4 run where I made him be the support bitch and have 3 damage dealing demons

Finished devil survivor for the first time. It was quite good. Went amane route because yeah giant tits.
Glad its over even tho i did enjoy my time, the last like 4 big battles were obnixous, and I don't think theirs enough demons or too many families in the game.
Like some maps have objectives so far away I had to use demons 10 levels below solely off the fact they had abilties that let me actually get to where I need to go fast enough. Did their really need to be 3 demon families that all just heal? Those demons should have been divided up to other families or different more useful abiltiee but idk.
Overall great game, maybe too hard for its own good. Felt like I couldn't really experiment because I would just lose. Slowly just turned my team into spamming dances with as many amps/resistances as I could get
Devil survivor 2 even better or should I take a break?

>>583022346
>Went amane route because yeah giant tits.
shouldn't you have gone with Yuzu then

>>583022346
Overlcloked* did day 8 amane

>>583022528
True but idk amane is just kind of cute maybe its the uninterested bitch face

Ahh, Abdiel!

Nuwa's feet

>nuwa's feet
>yoko's feet

Is it ironic that snakes have the best feet in the game?

>>583030682
God sealed them away for a reason.

hoy breath

heavens hoy

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How many have interest in watching horror movies this month if I stream them and what time could you do it? Please reply. Let's find a time the majority of us can make it to or if there is even enough of us sitting here waiting until November to do it.

>>583036156
Bet it smells life fish

>>583044113
Around 5 GMT?

>>583044113
i'd be fine with the weekends any time

>>583044113
cute