No more brother wars Edition>Blizzard's new version of World of Warcraft, based on vanilla WoWSet in the same Azeroth but expanded upon with new zones, dungeons, raids, quests, loot, graphics and much moreMany new race/class combos including Undead Paladin and Dwarf ShamanMore than 1k quests added making a 25% increase in quest content alone>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app>When is it being released?November 4th>Beta GuildsType /who g-"Guild name" to see who's online, whisper anyone for an invite, or ask in thread.<wowfg> - EU, PvP, Horde<Little Space> - NA, PvP, Alliance>Previous>>582819287
So are the profession changes not fully done yet? Like aren't I supposed to get a belt buckle for blacksmithing starting with silver? But I'm 175 and dont see shit
When White House statement about RMT drama
>>582897873>botter vs rmter
>>582897873HOLY BASED.
>no Alliance PvE guildoh.... okay....
3 Shaman changes I am requesting before launch:Ally Sky Elf should be enabledNo Lava burst, chain lightning was a better and more thematic burst optionDual Wield for enhance (but not better than 2h)Thank you.Signed,A concerned Shaman main
>>582897873Holy based
>>582897873yeah deport his ass
>>582897873GET THAT DIRTY CRIMINAL NIGGER OUT OF EUROPE AND SEND HIM TO RUSSIA
>fat >swarthy>broken english>buys goldim noticing
>>582897873Matt (no re)Morse dropping the dankest TRVTH NVKES of all time
>>582897873i dunno, deportation kinda cruel, cant they just castrate him or something instead
is there any news to increase level cap to 30?
>we don't mind when le funny french man buys gold because he is funny or something
>>582898121It's low trust society behaviour which means 99% of the people engage with it are either literally or spiritually brown people, nothing new
the fat fuck shouldve bought ozempic instead
So what are the chances that the cap raises to 30 tomorrow? They'd have said by now, right?
>>582898207he's french canadian though
>>582898207ppc
>>582897873Fashy vnd freshy ubermensch here.The correct punishment is1. Perma to all the accounts involved, no ifs, no buts! 2. Public record made of their real names and payment information so that they can get hunted IRL by the fash militia.As usual, this is the correct way of doing things, the fresh and by god, FASH way.
>>582898207ppc my little man *gnome laughs*
>>582898303>old model looked betterhow
Asmongold's take on RMT was so bad that I now have to reconsider all the political takes I agree with him on.You might think they're unrelated, but what he said was so jarringly stupid you'd think he was suffering from brain damage.
>>582898350>OldFresh, fash, white>NewJewish, talmudic, negroidic
Payo pisses me off what kind of retard talks in twitch emojis?
>>582898207poggers in the lair
>>582898406what was his take?
>>582898207You share a thread with parasocials
Actual quest about the game, I didn't play much classic but I remember people shidding and farding and cumming over Scorpid pets and their poison, but did they change something about its focus cost or something because he never has enough focus to use it unless I toggle off claw which just means he's doing nothing with the extra focus.
I feel like druids will be one of the least played classes, even with their amazing buffs in forever
>>582898303ok but hows the old/new cock like?
>>582898406Imagine using a streamers political opinions to influence your ownGlad this is how your cognitive dissonance got broken
>>582898062>Ally Sky Elf should be enabledLore forbids it. Sorry you’re stuck with shitty dwarves lol. >Dual Wield for enhance (but not better than 2h)Devs have confirmed there won’t ever be DW because some boomers that watched Unbreakable 20 years ago had a meltdown during sod. Also it’s impossible to not make DW better than 2h
>>582898303The retailtroons did NOT like this one
>>582898519druid has literally always been popular, it and hunter are THE gynoid classes
them banning that swarthy fatso would send a message to the other streamers and make them scared to accept gold from random viewers in the future, which would lessen the amount of mouthbreathing retards who buy gold just so they can hand it over on stream and cum in their pants when a streamer calls them by name
>>582898512that was sodpet scaling was overtuned so scorpid poison was good for a few days
>>582898414I fucking love Verdan murdering tanks. It's so fucking funny.
>>582898476>what was his take?He said gold buyers shouldn't be banned because viewers could use that maliciously against streamers.
>>582898406hes gets shit wrong all the time, like he backed piratesoftware
>>582898414YO TAUNT
>>582898621Oh I see, thanks anon.
>>582898512That was SoD and they nerfed it to complete uselessness back then. Using a damage CD would cause the poison to do more damage and people were too fucking stupid to use cure poison on self. So pets got nerfed until the point where they were completely useless from then on.In era scorpids were always shit.
>>582898414>>582898625lorelet, explain why
I could beat Ziqo 1v1 if brown fatso didnt buy gold
Just give up. That shitskin isn't getting banned. You lost. He won.
Yall retarded if you think a poor immigrant victim in sweden living on gibs is gonna get bannedThat is literally racist if blizzard would do that.
>>582898725He's a big guy
>Recycled retail assets>RMT approved >Fell for it again
>>582898406He has always been a hypocrite on this stuff. He loves to talk about how western society is superior and to deport anyone who doesnt assimilate in to it. Yet he also advocates for being a menace to society by scamming as much as possible whenever you can (brown and low IQ behaviour). RMT, GDKP falls in to this category as well. He has done it before and wants to continue doing it. Especially now that he's a streamer and the goycattle who watch him gives him stuff for free if he just asks them to.This is why no one should take his opinion on it seriously because as he proudly proclaims whenever he can cause its such a le chad move he only cares about himself and what gets him the best outcome. He also keeps saying if we thanos snapped every 2%er everyone would be better off. Well the same argument can be made about streamers desu.
>WPvP at Undercity entrance>having fun except I keep getting layered away from the person I'm actively attacking over and over and over againBlizzard.
>>582898519We warned you. We told you Druid was the least played spec in vanilla by far for a reason. This isn't Retail where they're a god at everything. You're a shitty rogue. A shitty warrior. And a shitty priest.Shifting into bear costs 30% of your mana. No magic dispel. No purge. HoT healing which instantly get sniped by everyone else or absorbed by shields. No Maim or Mangle on cat. Zero damage from Balance while still going OOM in 6 seconds.Its exclusively played by the most hardcore furries and homosexuals for a reason.
>>582898725He just hits hard for an early boss. Catches people off guard compared to all the other shit they fight doing nowhere near the damage verdan does.
>>582898725Verdan hits hard and the brownoid moodoop apeman had a ton of armor missing (broken chest)
>>582898816how do streamers not feel bad they are draining poor people of money they can't afford to spend
>>582898725retard tank with red gear
>>582898849They should have made damage form interesting and made it so you swap back and forth between bear
>>582898836>WPvP at Undercity entrance>having fun What is fun about being stacked with 50 other players killing people 50v1 as they try to enter the instance?
>>58289890399% of streamers are of low moral character, if they werent streamers they would be scamming people some other way
>>582898406asmon doesn't have a real opinion about anything, he just spouts whatever comes to his mind which is why 80% of his streams are just repeating "yup there it is dood" and "it is what it is sometimes you get got" over and over for the last 5 years
I’ll ask again because you mentally ill retards keep dodging the questions.How will expansions work?How will they simulate level cap increases without actually doing it?How will catch up gear/quests work?How would a new player catch up through all the years of horizontal progression?
>>582898725he just hits very hard and hes level 21people go in and think they can tank the whole place at 18-19 and end up getting spanked by a crit from the last bossmade worse by the fact he has red gear already
>>582897873warlock mains are based like this
>>582898792>>582898836Fashy vnd freshy vltra chads warned you.As usual, you didn't listen to the white race and instead listened to jewish screechers.
>>582897873holy based
Stop cyberbullying!Streamers are people just like you and me!Be better humans.
>>582898898I completely missed him just not having his red piece because I didn't even think to look for that>>582898920I'm starting to realize why retail is full of tards like this
>>582898986>How will expansions work?new sexelves>How will they simulate level cap increases without actually doing it?new sexelves>How will catch up gear/quests work?new sexelves>How would a new player catch up through all the years of horizontal progression?new sexelves
>>582898931Nah, that gangbang is inside near the instance. There is a group of allies who came to just PvP and they're hanging around just outside the undercity front door. Paladin shaman and two rogues.
is there a warlock petless build? like I sacrifice it for a buff or some shit
>>582898986>How will expansions work?None!>How will they simulate level cap increases without actually doing it?They won't, it's lateral progression gigakino!>How will catch up gear/quests work?They won't, no catch up, EVER that's retail of toilet!>How would a new player catch up through all the years of horizontal progression?They just fuarking will, the game is so gonna ge mega epic kinography everyone will want to run raids because they are so kino.Stop asking questions.
>>582897873basedZiqo is a nafri swedish NEET nigger
>>582899027I refunded thoughbeit
>>582898931It’s SOVL, a retoilet like you wouldn’t get it. Go play some arenas, queer.
>>582899160Yes its very, very common because the buffs are insane
>>582899052Classic*Retail players mog classicuckies, don't make me post KKKungen, esfaggot, etc... getting gaped and raped into dogeza submission.
you care about banning RMT and streamers because you care about the game's integrity. i care about banning RMT and streamers because i simply hate streamer niggers and their simpish fanbaseswe are not the same
Forever needs the WoW Token.
>>582899256thanks that sounds based as fuck and makes me wanna roll lock now
>>582899280>Retail players mog classicuckies>KKungen, esfaggot, etc... getting gaped and raped into dogeza submissionYeah I'm good. You guys are still massive fags
>stacks of horde outside RoL>No alliance waiting outside deadminesWhy is it that horde always attracts the most degenerate no life players?
alliane are just humans, fatter humans, small humans, blue humanshorde are all sorts of creatures coming together with one goal in mind
>>582898986They aren't going to make expansions, at least not without scrapping retail, which I don't see happening unfortunately.
>>582898903they see their viewers as subhumans because they give their limited income to rich people
what do you do when you're in a dungeon group that took 2 hours to form and you need to poop
>>582899182If you listened to the fashy white men who are never wrong, you wouldn't even need to.
>>582899332Uhhh, moshi moshi~?Basado departomento?
>>582898406>You might think they're unrelated, but what he said was so jarringly stupid you'd think he was suffering from brain damage.he's literally only playing wow or reacting to twitter, he has to have brain damage, but so does everybody here too.
>>582899386>with one goal in mindrape
>>582899414suck it in
>>582899341It's partly why affliction is so powerful. The dots scale massively with spell power and then you just get an extra 15% on top of that.
>>582898207>maybe 1.5k?https://x.com/n_tys26/status/2105014090565562764This is even worse than what Ziqo did. How in the world is Payo not banned?
>>582897873based staysafe looking out for hyperborea
>>582899414MOM! BATHROOM!
>>582899414i wear diapers because i'm a hardcore classichad not a retarded retoilet faggot>>582899280kys streamers dont count anyone here can get cutting edge we are all multiglads which is actually hard unlike pvetranny shit
>>582899164You sound like a deranged reddit cultist, which explains the childish delusions you have about this game! I guess i really am dealing with sub 70IQ retards!
>>582899386you mean undead humans, buff green humans, buff furry humans, blue jamaican humans? and yes, their one goal is to destroy (white) medieval europe
>>582899414bitch on twitter to add retail dungeon finder and lose control of my sphincter
>>582899456but no femgnomes those are for
why is there no Warmode?https://litter.catbox.moe/oc1wcr.jpg
>>582898542>Lore forbids it. Sorry you’re stuck with shitty dwarves lol.there isn't really any reason why an individual skelf shaman or mage couldnt choose windshaper or high order
>>582898986Horizontal progression just means slow vertical progression, but endgame isn't the focus, devs will keep releasing leveling content and give incentives to level up alt characters as the leveling experience is the focus
>>582899545kys retoilet classic forever will kill retoilet it is the greatest game ever made new classes every year unlike retoilet, ogres soon naga soon, high elf soon, it's all gonna be so fucking kino
>>582899525>banning streamers>on his watchHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAA
Insider here. They're planning to ban them during the tournament
>>582899414The WoW southpark episode that covers this strategy was released almost exactly 20 years ago, Oct 4th 2006.
>>582899586My mage on the bottom
>>582898986The devs probably don't even know themselves. It's gonna be a shitshow, Forever will be a surprise (for the finance people) hit and blizz is going to scramble trying to monetize it
>>582899525>WHY>u can help?So obvious that hes just playing dumb just in case Blizzard investigates.
>hfw he forces you into the cuck chair to watch his streamer buddies rape your game
payo should be allowed to buy gold and do whatever he wants because he's a funny little manyes
>>582899340Fufu status?
>>582899710>WoW came out 200 years ago
This is my shaman build, there are many others like it but this one is mine
Switch Sisters, we're finally coming home ...
>>582899879kinda bad
>>582898986i think theres no vision, they just copypasted random shit from SoD and turtlewow into the game and throw around some buzzwords like horizontal progression when in reality it means "you do 1% more dmg to [beasts/dragonkin/humans/while in mountains/while not in mountains]" and heirloom talents
>>582898984what's the story here?
anyone in the ally guild online to inv?
>>582899810they know you are a dumb doomjet
>>582899919nuh uh
>>582899823I carried him through a SlavePens HC on stream and he got the epic Leather pants. Does that mean he knows me now?
https://files.catbox.moe/nq14uh.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/ebo4e3.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/31uzhe.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/na1pxi.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/41esj7.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/8concg.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/an5pb3.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/x6ls40.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/9slqim.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/oa27nr.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/own3on.png
>>582899905If they release wow forever on the switch, ps, and xbox then they are going to get 20 million subs
>>582899879>Taking memestorm weapon(Zugger) doesn't know.
>>582899635I was just reminded that there are people out there that really like leveling and don't really care much about endgame content.
>>582899905steamdeck is so fucking ass with it's low resolution, switch 2 wow would be nice.
>>582899879I don't understand why you're not running riptide as a healer
>>582900012HOLY FUKKEN BASED
>>582899905that would actually be really coolthat said i wouldnt want a single one of them in a group with me
>>582900012... this is shota isn't it
>>582897873Why is a brown man living in Sweden?
>>582899879all damage and no utility. i will rape you repeatedly until you log off before you ever even get inside your little carebear raid instance
>>582899710literally me
>>582900172>>582900012Finally some PEDOKINO SLOPPERINO!!!
>>582900098Whats wrong with it
>>582898195tomorrowit was revealed to me in a dream
>>582898275It is 100% confirmed, just unsure what time tomorrow. >source? $Payo$ ppc.
>>582900231>no utility Aren't flame totem and windfury totem strong af for raids
>>582900012Art StyleFAGGOT PEDOPHILE AIDS
>>582900172hhmmmm no_
What are the chances that they'll make MC and BWL bosses take normal fire damage?
arise my black champion
>>582900231>before you ever even get inside your little carebear raid instancelmao
>>582900012no shota action?
>>582900401I hope not. It's more fun when you play into the magic system.
>>582900263>Chance on hit>Very slow hitting weaponMhhhm dunno lol u no use brain cucky lucky? pve tranny cuck hahah no brain no penis no skillz>>582900304>pvecarecuck lol
>>582900012any humie priest here who wants to heal me looking like this?
>>582899456
When did you realize the real person to blame for the RMT scandal is Tips for setting up the stupidest rules anyone has ever devised for a tournament and not making it self found and personal buffs only?
>Mental quickness 2 pointer30% of int into SP/HP>Champion of the light100% of int into SP/HPMake it make sense!!!
>>582900401you have dual spec now so it's not that big of a dealbut they're also pandering pretty harddifficult to say!
>>582900443Imagine the shaman complaints>enha can't flame shock, fire nova>ele can't flame shock, lava burstAt least mages have other dps specs and warlocks as well.
>>582900591You see Paladin is aggrend's classI hope this helped
Are you playing a good class/spec? It would be a shame if you struggled to get into a raid group.
Do enhance shamans ever pick up tidal focus?
Your top tier rank 1 player anons.>clicking nades>getting assblasted by randosno wonder he had to cheat to get all the gear he could for the tournament he totally doesnt care about.Kill streamers. Behead streamers, Roundhouse kick a streamers into the concrete. Slam dunk a streamers into the trashcan. Crucify filthy streamers. Defecate in a streamers food. Launch streamers into the Sun. Stir fry streamers in a wok. Toss streamers into active volcanoes. Urinate on streamers food. Judo throw streamers into a wood chipper. Twist streamers heads off.
>>582900028Asha on a roll, it was retarded not to port it bc we've been playing controller on retail for years now>>582900130it really is ass, and much weaker than Switch 2 where it counts too, and now too expensive>>582900158sorry to jump scare you like this but there's already retail leaderboards M+ key pushers playing controller 24/7, the game has been console ready for years
>>582900591Paladin needs help with scaling because they were always dog shit. Hence the holy tree starts with 10 talents on the first row that give 10% strength and 10% int
>>582897873is that staysafe lmfao based
>>582900447NTA, but it's 2 points to get 100% chance to get mana regen on a stormstrike attack...wtf are you talking about chance on hit? The tool tip doesn't even say the stormstrike has to actually land lol
>>582900694slop
>>582900710Need to see how their mana works out without a dedicated Judgement of Wisdom bot. The 5% hit is nice and if mana is a problem totemic focus will also help.
I've seen more Azeroth than Earth
>>582900694Looks like we need to nerf warriors some more huh
>>582900774are huntards the king of wpvp?
>>582900774Why do you care so badly about ecelebsAnd why do you think we care
>>582900585Who do you think funds these tournaments?
>>582900774ziqo is the best mage in the world and no one could beat him you are just jealous nobody lmao
>>582900678Ret is his pet class.Holy and prot need to dump 28 points into ret to even scale lmao.
>>582900903in the level 20 bracket yeah
classic in a nutshellhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TMOMTtAMBI
>>582897873Huge Trvke
>>582899973He got his mom cigs (or at the very least didn't give enough of a shit about her having them) and the Info Wars guzzling hoarder retard smoked while connected to an oxygen tank and fucking exploded and died.
>>582900848>She aggressively doesn't knowxDnot gonna make it, go read a guide you need it lil gup.
>>582900903people in this general wont tell you this because they suck at the game, but as someone thats had rank 14 in 2019 classic and was consistently 2.3k rated in 2s and 3s in tbc and wotlk classic i can tell you from looking at the talents so far >hunter>warlock>ele shaman>feral druidthese will be op as fuck unless they change them, im talking through the roof op.
>>582901025How would a mage win against one at 60 in wpvp?
>>582900903Yes.
>>582900694>tier lists based on a class at lvl 30
>>582901091This isn't true. He said repeatedly he asked his mom to stop and just accepted she was going to live and die on her own stubborn terms.
>>582901097they should give druids cyclone
>>582900710>>582900883I could see something like this for purely PvEhttps://www.wowhead.com/forever/talent-calc/shaman/v2050023-051032031004112251-05005_t0/1BEFHjcpnnnnqSRTv2BE0BFee
is there any news to increase fps cap to 140?
>>582901152Stop responding to retards
>>582900893Which Q is this? The mining pick or the orc warlock?
>>582899905They did the same with Shadowlands and Dragonflight.
Yup, Forever is gonna be slop
>>582901097>>feral druid>these will be op as fuck unless they change them, im talking through the roof op.Probably rolling a druid for that reason but like I don't want to get fucked over by huntards and warlocks in pvp. How bad do you think it will be?
>>582901097ele did lose their insta heal
>>582900962>you are just jealous nobodysaar?
>>582901098Lock him in his deadzone with nove/rank 1 frost bolts. trade block for his scatter
>>582901091crazy, so he killed his own mother, what a psychopath
OOOOOKAY.I was really thinking about either going tank or rogue for beta, in the end, i went with rogue for shits and giggles and ganking streamers but HOLY fuck the grouping is BAD for dps playersno way in hell im going anything other than tank or healer role for launch, im sitting in a WC lfg for 30 minutes whispering ppl to let me joinhell nah
>>582901093I genuinely have no idea what you're talking about nona, is there some hidden interaction not listed on the tool tip? Idk why you're acting like this it's fucking strange
>>582901309How are you ever going to get close to him? In a duel sure but actual wpvp?
>>582901194no but I can increase your fps to 67
>>582901262forever is on the right and is better btw
>no new races for a year>no new classes for a year>non canon blelves>full of retail assets>retail engineOh yes. Its classic + time
>>582901262>mom i posted it again
>>582901097no spriest?also, what race for each class is the most broken in your opinion pvp anon? ty
At least on Pochie we didn't have our threads ruined by streamers, bots and gold buying...
>>582901352Join a guild instead of PLEASE SAAR INV PLEASE SAAAAAAAAR in capital
>>582901352>everyone wants wc leather>thinks he's gonna get an invtough luck buddy, worst part is you dont even need a tank at this level. just have one person capable of off-healing and the group will be ok with a ragtag team of dps
>>582901382>>582900848Maelstorm weapon triggers 'on hit'.You aren't getting a lot of hit procs with a 2 hander.The total proc rate of it is likely going to be real poor, maelstorm weapon was created for DW.RETARD. You should stick to reading guides of superior men, chud rude anon is right.
>>582901446this but unironically
>>582901382Well you're arguing with a guy about Maelstrom Weapon while you're talking about Improved Stormstrike.
>>582901352Going healer/tank combo like Paladin is the fastest way to get a good reputation and friends on the server
>>582901305doesnt matter, they gained such a better toolkit, they will completely shit on any caster, and with consumes (everyone consumes in pvp) they will still be able to 1shot almost all melee with their burst combo.>>582901302i think feral druid can do well vs hunter if you play well, its a skill matchup. warlocks might shit on you if they are SL spec, they are insanely tanky.>>582901479spriest is strong for sure, but not insanely op.
>>582901384blink or if youre on your mount just dont dismount until in range
They said they want to make every spec viable. Will I be able to raid as a kitty cat? I want to play Feral really badly.
>>582901352>SAAAAAAAAAAAR INV SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR!!!!!
who voices human female? its pure sex
>>582901352That's weird, as a ret pally I list myself as DPS and people would jsut send an invite after 5-10 mins saying something like "i'm stealing you for our group :3"
I'm not defending Blizzard for being limp-wristed with RMT bans, but I'd absolutely hate to be in their position. WoW streamers are easily THE worst streamers I've ever seen in any video game community, and I've only recently realized it because Forever is the first time I've actually paid any attention to them.Almost all of them are self-destructive, 80 IQ retards who exude an aura of pure, pessimistic misery. They do nothing but bitch and moan and act like entitled manchildren, toxic trolls, or both. I bet Blizzard fucking loves Xaryu because he mostly behaves himself, despite having all the personality of a slice of wheat bread.>>582901496>everyone wants WC leatherI heard that everyone in a party can now skin dungeon mobs, is that not true? I hope it isn't, it would lead to massive botting.
naming my character Asmongoldsmom Oxygentank when the game goes live
>>582901227the pick is in the other room, so it's the medallion
>>582901352just roll hunter and the tank for yourself
>>582901547yes babe>>582901609I meant the equippable armor
can somebody explain the discord chat integration? I know its been possible to pull a discord overlay into wow for a while now, but this sounds like it's different? how exactly does it work? does it just link a single, designated chat channel from the linked discord into the game's chat window? I've always avoided discord like the plague when it comes to wow because I hate using an external text chat or having to find room in my UI for the fucking overlay.
>>582901547Imagine you're building a 10/20 man raid group in your headNow ask yourself if you would want one of those spots to be a Feral Druid
>>582901524>i think feral druid can do well vs hunter if you play well, its a skill matchup. warlocks might shit on you if they are SL spec, they are insanely tanky.I'm really not sure if making hybrids that strong is the play do you think paladins will be insane op in pvp as well?
>>582901524what burst combo
>>582901152>ay stop the smoking>no>please>no>ait d00d it is what it is
>>582901352yeah wc sucksevery fucker wants the leatheratleast as a hunter you can solo the place
>>582901696true sis, i heard mythic molten core is going to be the most difficult raid wow has ever seen
>>582901509Didn't they do something with Maelstrom Weapon in SoDomy to make it proc way more often on 2H? Maybe that's the version that's being implemented.Regardless, 5 points for a chance on hit 5 times to get a wimpy nerfed lightning bolt because of the base damage changes is fucking ass. Not sure why they felt the need to remove healing wave from it so it could at least be used to heal.They did say Enh was getting some changes after it lost the 100% spell crit damage from ele, so maybe they'll make MW weapon not a joke.
>>582901771>>582901757>>582901741>>582901720>>582901717FPS status?
>>582901509Jesus fuck I was just confused about what you were even talking about and you come at me like this. Get a fuckin life lol>>582901521Bro needs to get a life, he could have easily identified that I was reading a different talent and was confused. Instead he decided to vaguepost and hurl insultsThis the type of shit that reminds me to avoid wowg guilds like the plague, they're always filled to overflowing with dickheads like this
>>582901771Some schizo claimed ragnaros would grow legs
>>582901559Are you a schizo?
>>582901352
>>582901793that’s so funny
>>582899879>>582900447Yep, this convinced me that all the people talking about talent builds are autistic pvptards.
>>582901793QRD on the fps meme?
>>582901793140
>>582901896forced meme
>>582900883why would you put 3 points into totemic when you can put 2 points into improved meme strike for the same effect
>>582901352Don't worry lil bro, I'll be sure to take you to my runs.Every single dungeon while leveling will be:>me, pally tank>priest healer>warlock/mage dps>2 roguesThis way I have 0 loot competition for 2h weapons and all mail/plate gear.
>>582901524For droods you basically have to get them to burn their mana shifting.Warlock is probably going to be hard because you're on a timer.
>>58290071010% flame shock / fire nova / fire totem damage-1s shock cooldownelemental focus20% fire nova damage, -4s fire nova cooldownvs5% hit totem mana cost reductionFire nova is the biggest one. The cooldown reduction and damage increase up the overall damage by 2.2x. If fire nova makes up 5% of your damage without talents, you'll get over a 5% damage benefit from it which would beat out the hit. Shock cooldown doesn't do much if you're doing a flame shock->earth shock->flame shock rotation since flame shock dot is 12s. I'd wager skipping the hit is the better option.
I'm glad that the retarded PvP tournament is drawing attention to how wildly imbalanced the talent point legacy perk is, and it'll probably get removed before release
>>582901896I only get 140 FPS
>>582901352>INV SAAAAAAR I AM LEATHER AND WILL NEED ALL YOUR ITEMS SAAAAAAR THERE ARE FIVE THOUSAND OF ME IN THE GROUP FINDER BUT INV SAAAAAAAAAAAR I WILL NOT MAKE MY OWN GROUP SAAAAAAAAR TOO MUCH EFFORT SAAAAAAAAARR PLEASE GIVE ME YOUR LOOT SAAAAAAAAAARRRI get that ANON
>>582901965the pally tank is gonna be me doughbeyt
>>582901958Between this and the other guy and improved stormstrike are we just doing a thing where we purposely talk about the wrong talents? Totemic focus is mana cost reduction on totems, and you need 5 to get tidal focus for %hit, if you need the hit chance since Shaman can't get it anywhere else.
>>582901547When they said that they meant they’re going to make paladin OP.
>>582901965you will wear the dress
Rogues are trash for dungeons.
>>582901446Gods I love her feet in this one. Still very womanly, but not pristine.Not the feet of a princess or a queen, but the feet of an athlete, a warrior. I would live to worship her cold feet and suck on her tired, but strong toes.Can only imagine the enchanting musky smell of old leather, bruised and sweaty skin, and a mix of old perfume with decaying leaves.
>>582901941FPS status?
>>582902108oh shid i thought you were picking mindfullness for 3 points my bad
>implement group quests like warhammer online had where players are automatically joined with one another and the end rewards allows them to complete the actual quest and receive loot according to ones contribution (no stupid waiting timers with 300 people chasing the same item/mob)>WPvP areas like the same game did (control/capture the flag but on the open world and always available at bordering regions)>implement 4v4 Random arena where players are shuffled random just like GW1 hadThese were by far the most fun inducing mechanics I saw in other MMOs.
>>582902183Don't they have fan of knives and blade flurry?
>>582901479>what race for each class is the most broken in your opinion pvp anon? tySorry forgot to reply to this part. You cant give a clear cut answer to this it depends on matchups, just look at the racials and think to yourself, what class am i weak vs as whatever it is you pick. orc will be the answer if you can be orc, gaining AP/SP on 2min cd with 25% stun reduction is nutty. >>582901717Ret palas will suffer from the problem of everyone is picking this class, so because it will be overpopulated there will be a lot of terrible pala players, but i think holy pala will still be strong af in group pvp as a healer with now the ability to offer some half decent burst, ret pala will be very strong in group pvp, but they still suffer from the problem of if the player youre fighting is good and he wants to run away from you they can.>>582901978not really, they gave ferals more mobility, and a burst cd that makes you immune to fear and lets you spam mangle. only way a lock will easily beat a druid is they use lips when they pop the cd and they are SL spec
>>582902184>I LOVE CRUSTY STINKY WRINKLY FEET! YES SIR GIVE ME EXTRA TOE CRUST ITS MY FAVORITE PART!I dont get the appeal
ReminderYou are playing Retail-Enjoy your Retailborne
>>582902183true but you need gear to rape newbs in hillsbrad
>>582901446comparing this dogshit forever slop to retail is an insult to Midnight.
>>582902183Like tanking is a pve construct and not a real role, rogue is a pvp construct and not a real class.Truth nuke, btw.
ReminderYour FPS is 140Enjoy your low shadows
>>582901965Dangerously based.
>>582902184its something AIsloppers will never be able to replicate. Its soul and also same. The artist cooked
>>582902382The artist put wrinkles on her feet and crust marks.
>>582901789MSW is PPM, so it should average out to the same. > They did say Enh was getting some changes after it lost the 100% spell crit damage from ele, so maybe they'll make MW weapon not a joke.Yeah it’s getting more nerfs. Maybe you’re new to the spec, but that’s how it goes. MSW will always be shit because LB hits like a wet noodle.
my party is me prot warrior, enhance shaman friend, ret pally friend, resto druid friend. i will invite all the lonely pitiable rogues before i ever invite a migger (mage nigger) but the rogue has to buy my healer water before running to the dungeon
Blizzjeets and Retoilets pushing the Ziqo snark post to the top of the classic wow subreddit, protecting their nigger criminal streamer, this blatant social media manipulation never ends, they're bragging about buying viewbots for him now to try and push the narrative no one cares that he bought gold because he has increased viewershipI don't know about anyone else, but this shit is getting pretty fucking repulsive to watch play out in real time, really championing subhuman behavior as something virtuous and needed, bordering on the demonic No one should be defending this behavior but here we are
>>582902294swipe and buy, lol?
>>582901789Even if it was 100% on hit, you need to hit 5 times for it to trigger which is poop in pvp cuz idk anyone living after getting hit 5 fucking times.maybe they want to make a caster-melee thing with a fast weapon but even that sounds like shit.>>582901839You got btfo'd into the ground now you are coping, lol chudanon turned you into a perma cuck you dumb pedo nonny.
>>582902289>I dont getYou are an NPC, you will never have your own conscience. You only react to what you see and are told, you'll never think, feel or decide for yourself>>582902382Based fellow main character
my fps is forty, my class is rogue, my race is orc
>>582902272oh meant hunter v lock but yeah 15s fear immunity is crazy
>>582901352just play warrior and you can do both
grim
>plate tanks have almost 0 loot competition at 60 since paladins want SP and INT platebeing tank is just the best
>>582902546You like smelly, wrinkly feet. You enjoy when they look like an old woman's feet. You hate youthful, smooth feet, and prefer that they are extra covered in fungus and crust like the art you replied to.
>>582902625
>>582899710>Oct 4th 2006It's really fucking weird because my memories have this notion where I was already playing WoW for a while by the time this episode came out, but simultaneously my earliest memories of playing the WoW 14 day trial and making my first character I went to Thunder Bluff and remember seeing a few Blood Elves there.
>>582902546you like wrinkly nasty old lady feet
Thanks anons. You've convinced me to play feral
>>582902625the hype is overpull the ripcord already
>>582902182Nah, I'll be able to tank or dps in raids as well.
>>582902625>asian make a game>actually puts in effort>blizzard makes a game>rerelease the 2004 game for the 5th timeyea
<Anime Mafia> has completed its roster
>>582902725hd models mog this
>>582902625it's impressive how horrible aion 2 looks, and sad, i loved the first one
>>582902770>actually puts in effort
>play tank>refuse to invite rogue / hunter / dps paladin / dps warrior / enh shaman / feral druid unless I already have the items they're chasingSimple as. Enjoy your long waits for groups dps players.
>>582902463Can't remember where it was or what version of WoW but I remember an iteration of MW where it also gave 20% extra damage per stack as well cause yeah LB hits for fuck all. The way the changes were worded made it sound like it would be getting buffs, but yeah Enh Shaman always gets cucked, pic related.>>582902545To play doubles avacado, if it procs from Stormstrike and Windfury attacks it might not be THAT bad in PvE to get 5 stacks, but yeah useless in PvP since they took out the instant heals from it (y tho).
>>582902807stop filming me
>be healer>make dungeon group>plebs immediate start messaging me>choose dps and tank so I get all the cloth and leather dropsEasy clap
>>582900012>Lolimane>censoring the best onelame
>>582902593warlock already hard countered hunters in vanilla, now locks got huge amazing overhaul in their talents and dots can crit too, i think if player skill and gear is same, lock will still be favored vs hunter but now with incombat traps and pet scaling hunter can maybe have a better shot at the duel, a small chance imo though cause will depend if the lock is SL spec which gives him INSANE survivability. one thing to note, if you just want wpvp, consider that lock has a big prep list to have everything up and running if you ever die, which makes you vulnerable to camping. hunter is more flex in wpvp.
>>582902772my only memory of this was joining you on a pserver or some shit, hitting 60 and then nobody wanted to do fun shit like pvp in un'goro so I immediately g-quit and joined a better guild.
><Anime Mafia> has completed its ro-ACK!Looks like you'll need one more.
made it bros
Anyone here played forsaken kingdom? I'm thinking of buy the deluxe package thing. Is it fun?I've never really been an RTS-autist, but I usually like all genres I play when i sit down and give em a try.
>>582902625>>582902686>>582902747>>582902770lmao, lost ark had like double more players playing and watching but now they are irrelevant. wow always stays the king
>>582902851god I wish I was the lucky zoomer she bounces on
>>582902272>a burst cd that makes you immune to fear and lets you spam mangleMangle (bear) (now primal bite) costs 15 rage talented. The cooldown is removed but good luck getting your rage with current rage mechanics. Cat just gets 100% crit rate on shred (and claw).
>Horizontal progression
>>582902725nelf barefoot challenge (no shoes till 60)
>>582898406The encapsulation of arrogant, yet failed white man in united states of americanix. Man who is such massive loser that he is emotionally afraid to move out of his parents house, but at the same time thinks that he is in position to talk about things about actually matter.
>>582902851crazy how this 5 got so popular
>>582902969SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR
>>582900774He's a fucking shitter. I've seen nothing that is awe inspiring about his play.That rando Hunter humiliating him is hilarious.
>>582902857>Pic related>Forgets to post pic relatedis he stupid>>582902992Forsaken Kingdoms plays more like a RPG/Moba than a regular RTS, you don't really build towers and shit you just control multiple heroes.
>>582900891I told a friend that I wanted to live in Azeroth and he replied with "we already are" and I've been thinking about that for nearly a decade now.
>>582902969
So does Anya exist now in Forever wow or is it just Putress that gets to be relevant (because he’s a treacherous weasel with vathrahmas)
>>582903017>i like crusty feet
>play dps warrior>instantly become a tank by pressing defensive stance
why call it wow forever when it should just be called wow: undead circle jerk fest
>>582902868Fortunately nearly all healing bis items give healing as the primary power increase so dps players don't have any desire for those items. You really only compete for gear at low levels.
>>582902646>>582902710Drones, the lot of you. Its not just the feet and their own quality, its the story they tell and who they belong to.I'll take Sylvanas' beautiful and soulful feet with their own character, the scars and skin discolorations and slight bunions from running and fighting in boots for years, any day over the pristine and gorgeous feet of a nobody, any day.Perhaps you'll understand one day, if you develop a mind of your own.
>>582902630brown dps will roll on all of it
>>582901352extremely easy as caster dpsI get instant invites on mage/lock
My entire hopes for hunter hinges on the hawk talent in BM, I wanna summon a hawk to assist me.Also if they don't get avoidance it'll be a meme spec regardless, demo too.
>>582903086That sounds pretty based. Should I play W3 and FT before? Or is it set after?
>play dps druid>instantly become a tank by pressing bear stance>instantly become a healer by pressing cow stance
>>582899525>whispering a known streamer a literal day after he gets caught giving another streamer his RMT gold on that exact character>IN THE GAMEThis is 100% staged to build a narrative the 1st delivery wasn't RMT but something elseThat or they're actually that careless because they won't get punished anyway, I'm 100% sure RMT communication always happens off game in 3rd party software
>>582903003mb i hadnt looked at the talents in the latest build, i refunded my beta epic pack before that. but still 15sec fear immunity is very strong.>>582903076many such cases, theres a clip of him in retail arena showing how he doesnt even know how a warrior kept removing his novas (its a talent), rank 1 btw.
how accurate is this?
blizzdrones about to get curbstomped
>>582903263>be druid>have to work twice as hard in pvp to be half as good as other classesyou do you lil gup
>>582902630You forget that I as a tank am building my tank set and dps set. So like this guy points out>>582903179I am just going exclude anyone I would have to roll against for items from the run
i wish sky elves could be priests i'd go full healslut rape magnet
>>582903131would things have turned out differently if the norwood reaper never got to him
>>582903309hopefully not at all
How long until draenei?
>>582902246WoW isnt about fun. Its about making you lose time because its a sub MMO and their profit is proportional to the time you lose. Thats why they are "re-releasing" old builds instead of actually improve the base game.
>>582902969wagmi
>>582902969jesus christ
>>582903309Its bait
>>582903309Oh its 100% true since the file says WoW_Forever_Internal to make sure everyone knows its a leak :)
>>582903309"my dad works at nintendo" accurate
>>582902625Aion was a decent game and had none of the bullshit today.Aion 2 is filled trash like double battle passes, mtx shop, buying power from the AH, paid early access and so on
why are people leaving for aion 2? what the fuck?
>>582903258W3 and FT actually ARE RTS campaigns in which you build towers and have lots of units shit, for the most part.Forsaken Kingdoms and the Founding of Durotar are more like what I said, you control multiple heroes and get loads of cool items. Like a weird lil RPG.It takes place after W3 and FT for the most part, it deals with Arthas killing Teneras for the first part and then after that you move on to the Forsaken establishing themselves in Undercity just before WoW starts.
>>582903312what's the appeal on aion 2? last gook MMO I played was Archeage like 10 years ago
>>582902969yeah there are a billion hunters on beta for whatever reason
>>582903509psyop + shill campaign
>>582902969You whispered 17 leathers.17.17 leathers that probably got friends or guildies to tank for them or were spam refreshing lfg to see if a tank was there. Who then put the group together in 90/10 leather dps environment knowing they would not run that dungeon unless proactively formed by themselves.There are literally 40 rogues and 40 hunters in the group finder at any moment, and maybe 1 warrior or 1 mage.Your strategy, was to instead just spam SAAR INV SAAR at every hunter or rogue slamming a group together, knowing that he knows that you're a lazy fuck, and you just want to contest loot, and make their lives harder, but not just theirs, your life as well since he will be rolling on your gear, simply because you won't make your own group.Only when you whispered a paladin did you get an invite.
>>582903309IMPORTANT: THIS IS A LEAK (DO NOT LEAK!!!!!)
>>582903308The cat part is still strong when combined with thistle tea (which druids can now use) and tiger's fury. That's 160 energy regen and a lot of critical shreds.
>>582903309Stuff I made in Excel.
>>582902969Look at all those hunters
>>582898062You’re retarded.
>>582903309
>sends your char to the spirit healer
>>582903638I used the AI to destroy the AI.
?????? I thought they nuked this game
>>582903309This shit is dumb. Kalimdor was the way underbaked continent and everyone knows it. Expect to see most of the initial new content to be there, not Eastern Kingdoms.
>>582903405he could have fixed it by going on minoxidil
>>582903309i believe it because horde would be getting their most played race again and from everything so far blizzard seems determined to make the factions 99% horde like retail
>>582903619Yeah, so far my impression from the talents and spells is some dev in the team has a huge hate boner for warriors and rogues. They shat on them while buffing everyone else. The fact that they focused on all 3 rogue final capstone talents to be pve oriented and gave the biggest reason to bring a warrior to pvp (mortal strike) to a hunter pet that can have 100% uptime on a target tells you everything.
I had to clear 40 whisper tabs from rogues after forming a wc one time.
>>582903557same appeal as every other korean MMO in the last decade: look pretty up front for the artists to pad their portfolio, but once you peel back the veneer you find its ridiculously basic, just look at The First Descendant too
>>582898207>funny
>>582903703Gonna miss gun specialization on my dwarf hunter. I think dwarves were kind of nerfed with their racials compared to everyone else.
>>582903638Don't use meme sites.OpenAI watermarks all images and has a site to check if said watermark exists. The watermark is extremely resistant to image manipulationhttps://openai.com/research/verify/Gemini has a similar one for images created with it. Works by asking it to check for synthid in the chat.
>>582903703I feel like surv will be better than BM like it was in vanilla.
undead paladin was a mistake and i'll be proven correct
>>582903935>They push dwarf hunter man as the main character of forever>Dwarves are by far the worst hunter racewhat did they mean by this
>>582903115Anya died trying to find a human to fuck near the gates of stormwind (they saw her as an enemy and killed her instead)
>people unironically wasting time to "check" if the obvious fake bullshit is actually fakeAI really one-shot all the low IQ retards huh
Is Windfury still necessary for warrior to function in raids? How bad time will I have if I play an alliance warrior?
Gnome or skelf priest? Male, obviously, because I'm not a troon.
>>582904229elves can't be priests
>>582903703>not taking mage fucker 9000
>>582904170>How bad time will I have if I play an alliance warrior?If you dont make friends with a cute femdwarf shaman? very bad
>>582904170windfury for a warrior is more necessary than ever before since it will often double your pitiful rage generation and allow you to actually press your buttons instead of being stuck sitting on them for ages
35 year old men sweating over wpvp lmao
>>582904170>is a buff that doubles your damage still necessary to functionwell think about it for a second, anon
>>582903309>we don't want to repeat the same mistakes r*tail made>first thing they do is introduce furfag garbage
>>582903312>"I wonder why this is so popular">check thread>they found a way to make oppai lolis
>>582902792untrue! less is more, it lets your mind fill in the blanks with way more detail than what you actually see HD models just throw the whole cake in your face and the cake isn't even good inb4 >food analogy
Genuine question, is the rage generation that bad or is it just because people are used to classic where you have infinite rage because of world buffs and can use heroic strike every picosecond?
>>582901352That was my general experience as a Hunter and why I'm probably not going to play one. It was a truly miserable time even just getting into DM. I haven't bothered with WC yet, but making a group is just the answer. I'm very torn.
>>582903163>YESSSS I LOVE STINKY FUNGUS FEET
Where were you when Alexensual made history?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_stsD0JXJ2c
>>582902625only 200k on launch. wowf had 700 on beta. truly grim
>>582904480It is bad, very bad. Your APM as a warrior that is NOT prot drops to unacceptable levels.vanilla rage gen>you can bt and ww on cd every time, can sneak in heroics or cleaves between depending on gear/buffsforever rage gen>cannot even do bt and ww on cd you will basically press 1 button every 15seconds
>>582903309>forest trolllol
>>582904543Not watching people who arnt even entertaining.
>>582899810Ding ding ding, a non-retarded answer!Blizz literally has no idea what horizontal progression will look like. These retards are literally defending woke nublizz slop that HASNT EVEN BEEN DEFINED YET!You forever players have got to be the stupidest batch of people to ever grace this website!
>>582898406>I now have to reconsider all the political takes I agree with him on.you're a few years behind on this but I'm genuinely proud of you for this breakthrough, anon
>>582904480it's that bad but will improve a little with more talents. in pvp it's never going to be usable though, want to hamstring someone into rend, mortal strike, and whirlwind? that's like 9 auto attacks worth of rage and auto attacks are nearly 4 seconds apart
>>582904480A fury warrior will not be able to press bloodthrist and whirlwind on cooldown currently. Forget about even thinking to press heroic strike, losing an auto attack is way too costly for rage generation.
NEW CLASSES BASICALLY CONFIRMEDhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XfYCVREzSg
>>582904543idk but hes out there copyright striking videos that make fun of him right now. he just struck 5 more videos. like a little pussy bitch. typical manlet with bpd.>>582904825why doesnt he go on a diet?
>>582904706Support Alex, he's the last white hope in a sea full of shitskins.
>>582904825Fuck off mick you grifting cunt try forming your own opinion for once instead of scraping /vg/ to decide what your new video title should be
You gain talent points every level starting at level 9 instead of level 10, but you may still have no more than 51 total talent points.
>>582904825He's such a rat.
>>582904871kek copyright striking is the only power he has so of course hes gonna spam it on cd
>Flight paths cost 50% less, and your flight path mount flies 20% faster.This is good why is everyone hating this?
Does anyone here know if you can gift beta-keys to another region? Im in the EU and my friend lives in South Korea, and I would like to play him, so he can switch servers to eu. But im unsure if it will work on a asian battlenet account.
>>582903312>the right is going to make billions>the left will go free to play instantly
>>582904641>>582904764>>582904821Jesus that bad huh. Thank god I'm not playing Warrior, I know they were basically THE class in classic because of the world buff meta, but this seems like going from one extreme to the other.
>>582904981We just bullied him of an MnM discord yesterday by posting alex memes about sip o coffee and brownies. He threatened the mods to report the server for doxxing and they told him to stfu which made him ragequit.
>>582903309 excel sheet but no excel on bars, never got that cold in califonia this past month (checked weather) discord but no slack? someone made this themselves but missed a few things
i miss big tiddy dwarf lady anon...
>>582904904>>582904967why u so mad
>>582905047aggrend failed to nerf them enough in sod and they ended up outclassing paladin so now he is here to finish the job making sure the class does not work at all
>>582904831or like this maybe
>>582904825>classes they added later in retail>new
what classes will dominate wpvp, now that slow 1v1s are getting rare and there's lots of group fights / needing to escape gank squads? here's my guesstop tier>rogue and druidtop since they can escape the gank squads if their 1v1s don't go wellhigh tier>hunters, shamans, paladinsghost wolf being instant cast and aspect of the cheetah give them a good ability to escapepaladin have 15% run/mount speed, plus their bubble on a 4m cooldown, plus lay on hands much shorter cooldownmid tier>mageblink and ice block/ice barrier helps them escape the gank squads somewhatshit tier>warlock, priest, warriorabsolutely fucked
>>582905032>the leftwhy do americans only ever talk about politics
enjoy drinking after every pull pally cucks
>>582905197kek
>>582905197Because they are boring as fuck
>>582901352When I'm making a group and looking for dps players, I'm always going to invite the guy who says "Hey level 19 Warlock here" instead of the fourth rogue in a row whispering me 'inv'.
>>582905047I still plan to roll a warrior, will level as prot and make sure I invite only casters to dungeons as I level and gear for prebis. Will find some dad guild and make them trust me, give me thunderfury when MC comes out, then hopefully warrior will be fixed by then, and I will be a chad fury warrior with thunderfury. Thanks for listening to my ted talk.
>>582904831remove the 3 points in multi/aimed shot and counterattack and put them in that trap resist + trap cooldown talents instead
Bane?
>>582905085>posting clips he himself streamed is doxxingi know alex is low iq but yikes
>>582903814I don't think rogue looks that bad. Sub seems like a meme, but muti seems like it'll have very good combo point economy with free finishers. Endurance received an interesting buff reducing sprint/evasion cd to 2 min. Elusiveness stayed the same though. Warrior I don't see working at all currently.
>>582905281fair
>>582903309Given how retarded were the previous elf leaks and it turned out to be true I believe it.
>>582905353Yeah just saying, all the end capstones being pve is a big fuck you to rogues, only viable spec will be a assas/combat/sub dagger spec or mut/combat.
>Your class abilities no longer require reagents purchasable from vendors, and your Tier 1 camping features cost no reagents to craft.oh god this gonna be mandatory for pallies
>>582905194explain how rogues can escape i would just assrape them in one shot
What are these big nerfs to rogue? Not being rhetorical, I don't know much, all I know is mutilate was fucking amazing when they first introduced it.It's kinda funny that ass rogues will be really fucking bad against like half of the endgame content since elementals and undead are usually immune to poison.
>>582905519Grow up
>>582905329>i know alex is low iq but yikesYou have no idea how low IQ this mutt is. Dude has been terminally online for so many years, still cant figure out how to stream, how to work addons in wow, how to use adblockers hell he cant even work his blinds, he had to be told by a viewer to use the thing that turns the blinds so the sun doesnt go through. Not to mention he thought sunblock itself gives you cancer but not the sun.
>>582905519vanish and sprintblind you and sprint
Anyone else feel like they should lower the talent points here? It's the only class that has just 10 points right before the last one
>most unpopular race>most painful class to level>you exist for the sole purpose of giving others totems and spamming chain healGod gives his toughest battles to dwarf shaman chads
>>582903721why would you think that?i'm really curious about how people come to false conclusions so often, another one of my favorites is "riot mmorpg got cancelled"do you just not run any checks on claims?
>>582904825is this video actually worth clicking on or is it just another 20 minutes of pure speculation being delivered as insider info
>>582905304The same for me, except as a paladin because it's just better>will be able to aoe farm>gets thunderfury>only has to press 1 button for infinite threat>shield block ability is automatic and triggers every time your character takes damageAnd I will never have to worry about rage or Aggrend nerfing me because it's his pet class.
>>582905670just run it through ai and you wont have to watch it at all for your answer
>>582905567>since elementals and undead are usually immune to poison.they added a trinket that lets elementals and undead be affected by your poisons and bleeds.
>>582905657Shaman leveling isn't bad at all
>>582905626>>582905582already killed them in a single hunter shot doe
>>582905670>is this video actually worth clicking onIt's a Bellular video, you already know. All he does is parrot what /wowg/ (wowfg now I guess) is saying, he's admitted he browses it constantly. It's why his videos are schizophrenic and change from praising WoW to dooming it on a video to video basis, his source material is also schizophrenic (us).
>>582904273You know they'll just iceblock as soon as you cast it and waste most of the duration right? LmaoThe deadzone is back so hunter gets wrecked by any decent frost mage.
>>582904831>>582905157like thisyou can drop counterattack since it only really is needed against rogues and those niggas will have trinket to remove it anyway so scatter into trap is needed anywayyou can use traps out of combat now and they are extremely fucking overpowered
My plan for launch>pve server>level my main to 60, get prebis>start spinning up alts on second account>run alts through dungeons with my main for quest runs>2 levels per dungeon>will basically be able to go from 14 to mid 30s maybe even mid 40s just by soloing doing dungeonscomfy as fuck.
>>582905867hunters are free HKs for ret pallys lmao
>>582902868>sissy making the groupsno you don't, now join my group slut
>>582905656I think they should remove quietus since it's shit.
Champion of the Light should be a Holy thing only, we don't want r*ts running around with int gear.
>>582905656They should have removed prep
>>582905760Oh? That's fuckin cool, is there a pic of it? I wonder if they'll add things like that for other specs like fire mage so they're playable in MC and shit.>>582905953Even Rets will be wearing the dress because all of their scaling will be int/sp based lol.
>>582903152>so dps players don't have any desire for those itemsI had DPS players already roll on these still
>>582905902i will be standing 41 yards away which is further than blink into frost nova can reach after that iceblock so either he eats shit trying to close the gap or we both go our separate ways
what is his problem?
>>582905328>only one Bane
> wow forever is its own timeline they can do ANYTHING with the lore!the monkey paw curls
>>582901262I like the left one a little more, but not in Forever. I want a completely uniform art style.Quilboar look based in both SD and HD unlike pic related. Look how they massacred the gnolls... holy fucking shit...
hunter literally has no representative in the forever team, aside from maybe some women who play it to collect rare pets. we are fucked, to say the least
finding a group as dps after playing tank and healer really makes you realize how expendable you are
Here's the raid leader discord kitten's memespec, say something nice about it.
>>582906194retail already got a nu-med'an with arator
>>582906143You too would be mentally insane if you were a midget that has vegeta hairline and is at constant odds with his closeted homosexuality.
Affliction warlock sounds so cool! I can't wait to play! Yay yay!
>>582905903>out of combatkek i mean in combat
>>582906242>say something nice about it.I refuse, that is straight dogshit.
>>582906143Tell me about Al*x, why does he wear the hat indoors?
>>582906242BasedGo off queen
>>582905845WHO cares about leveling. It’s bad in pve and pvp
>>582906242it's cute and i'd play with it (i have no idea what it does)
>he won in the endpetition to ban and deport the shitskin fraud
>>582906194Did they ever put this nigga in the game?
What do I NEED to know if I plan to do my first dungeon run as a priest?I never did it ever
>>582905667What a fucking reddit tier commentI can litterally see you smelling your own farts KYS
Can i heal dungeons while leveling with Feral?
Have they said if they will run the beta to level 60 or not?
>>582906248Arator does not have any powers, Medan was more powerfull than Khadgar and Malfurion combined
>yellow skinned orc hunter>survival>2 axes >bear pet I'm seriously considering a Rexxar larp
all these paladin bandwagoners are just gonna get mana raped
>>582906364cast your most expensive heal if another players health moves as much as a pixel
>>582906362no he was made non-canon
>>582906362No.
>>582906465>Arator does not have any powersThey literally just set him up as this one-of-a-kind person that both understands the TRUE Light unlike the evil white human male chuds and also now he can use the void flawlessly and can simply do breathing exercises to shake off its corruption. He is correct in every situation and all other characters do is talk about how correct and brave he is
>>582906357not even, dude lost to a shitskin with every advantage in the game lol
I will brute force through the game to be a lighting mage
>>582906364Heal peopleDon't use bubble on warriors
>>582905328the cia allows you to curse and bane
>>582903442Why doesn't the fat go to her lekku?
>>582906662Did they not fix the bubble on warriors not generating rage? Wild.
>>582905907My plan for launch>make rogue>sweat and get 60 in 3-5 days>go back to low level areas>gank every mud hut nigger in sight>once the popularity dies down quit the game and never play again
>>582906758They did
>>582906493Shit will probably change before launch but in its current form I don't see DW survival being as good as a big 2h>No offhand hit talent>All attacks are now % weapon damage based>Windfury totemThe only advantage is it will get more mongoose bites
>>582905903I'm really thinking about it after re-reading everything.Entrapment is 100%, so I'd say survival tactics is a must to always get that 5 second disable.Counterattack might be unnecessary but it's just another disable in the bank for 1 point and syncs with parry.Resourcefulness seems like shit for pvp, so in the end for me it's deciding between mortal shots, lightning reflexes or trap duration and CD reduction.
>>582905567improved expose armor was nerfed to be the same as sunder so your class is not brought to raids at all
towelie is playing aion2. is it over bros?
>>582905952And I want to make sure everyone understands just how shitty quietus is.For 5 talent points in the bottom of subtlety you receive >Your Sinister Strike, Ghostly Strike, and Hemorrhage abilities cause 10% more damage against targets below 35% health.Now, you can expect your target to be below 35% hp roughly 35% of the time (pve scenario). Overall your sinister strike/hemo will deal 0.1 * 0.35 = 3.5% more damage. In a raid scenario, your sinister strike in classic is 20-25% of your total damage. Let's take the upper end. So overall you will deal 3.5% / 4 = ~0.9% more damage.You spend 5 talent points for less than 1% damage. There are several classes with a talent that deep down that increase their damage by 2% per point, for a total of 10%. Quietus is one tenth of that, or not even that.
how is resto druid?
>>582898986>How will expansions work?No expansions needed>How will they simulate level cap increases without actually doing it?Raid 1 ilvl 100, Raid 2 ilvl 105, Raid 3 ilvl 110. Tiny difference, but still an upgrade. Then they all have chase items in each raid which are ilvl 120 and very rare so it is always worth it to keep doing the old raids(example ilvls)>How will catch up gear/quests work?People will do old content for chase items which new people then join and get gear that way>How would a new player catch up through all the years of horizontal progression?Same as above, just join raid 1.Its really not that hard
>>582906679zdps build.
>>582906242>>582905903>>582905656just saying scatter shot and intimidation are cc + interrupts, a must for pvp , this guy knows >>582903703
On a scale from 0 (2003 vanilla) to 10 (retail), how soulful is Forever?
Totalbiscuit just booted up Dynasty Warriors 3 Remastered instead of ForeverWhat do we do now?
Would you invite me to your dungeon to mutilate thingshttps://www.wowhead.com/forever/talent-calc/rogue/v200530210500501-302303202015152_t0/0CDffJgnnnnq1AccFDGJNpQR0n1m
>>582906364good healing tutorial here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buvLHLZzGaA
Okay nice lvl 60 hunter talents but what do I spec for lvl 30 beta if I just rerolled for fotm because hunters can farm high level mobs in pve, but im also on a pvp server..
>rain sound effects>no rain
haven't played classic or forever beta or any of the old school versionsis re-speccing easy like retail during late game? i wanna level up as a healer/tank and then play the fun DPS stuff but will i have issues with gear and armor?what i wanna play: cat and boomkin, shadow priest, enhancement shaman
Just call me Smite McGee
>>582907208yes, there is dual spec, we don't know how to get it yet but it's in the game, probably for end game
>>582906442>spoil all the end game content which min maxing no life paypigs will manage to do>or reveal none of it is ready for launch Are you fucking insane? On November 4th please level very very slowly so troondevs and AI have time to finish the dungeons.
>>582905967but then NE hunters will get AIDS
WE, yes, WEare all RMT'ing day 1, right?
GET A BREZ ON ZUELASE
>>582906987if you want to do 1v1 ganking you go bestial masteryif you do group pvp you want the trap talents over intimidation every single timetraps can be used without feign death now and they have a 5 second root no matter the trap
>>582907181you're under cover
>>582905924>ret pally*one shots you too*
>late autumn>garden work in my summerhouse is done>the leaves have turned orange and have all fallen>making some hot cocoa>taking a week off to binge WoW Forever>all while ignoring cancer streamers and /wowgf/ crybabies >having the time of my life enjoying the game with the bros
>People are gonna dip into holy to be le epic shockadin>I'm going holy because I actually want to heal and beat shit up in melee since that's how they're gonna build holy paladins now (this is good)
>>582907267They call him 0070 DPS0 Viability7 Groups asking him to swap to healerI'm just kidding anon I hope smite priest is a fun little thing you can do that doesn't suck too bad
>>582907139Bro?
>>582907336streamerfags are doing it in a stupid beta, and we all look up to streamerfags right?
>>582906507It's crazy how all the fotm Paladins have no idea and when you try to explain it to them they chimp out
Instead of using r*t as my offspec I'm going to make a stupid melee hpaly as my offspec to do things like dailies or dungeon carries.
>>582906662>Don't use bubble on warriorsKek I would have absolutely done this but makes sense>>582907156Thank you I'm going to watch that now
>>582907430I don't want to be a le epic shockadinI just refuse to play Esfat's gay seal twist talent
>>582907524femdwarves do NOT look like this (and that's honestly really tragic)
>>582906198Was Hoggers yellow pauldron available anywhere in retail on a similar looking gear or something? Cant remember. I kinda like it.
>>582907208The game isnt going to hand you gear like retail. You'll have to go collect gear for your off spec, same as its always been for classic. >retail only player Hopefully you go back.
>>582907619Did he specifically suggest the seal twist talent? lmao
>rogues will have to literally beg and suck dick to get a group invite>all their capstones are pve focused>human, most popular race, is now designed to counter rogues in pvp>every single player will have improved stealth detection from legacy talents>every single player will carry the improved pvp trinket to break stuns and even blindrogues are more fucked than they've ever been before
we can now play WoW forever locally without blizzardhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjVKBxeyD8cAI is gonna be regulated fast cause of this lmfao
>>582906198I wanna get raped to death by the one on the right, thoughever
Retail is more fun than any version of Classic including ForeverModern WoW rotations, encounter and dungeon design are peak MMO gaming.
>>582899256no because the last tier demo gives them the pet back while keeping the sac buff
so they just arent gonna post the patch logs for these silent patches anymore?
BAN ALL GOLD BUYERS
>>582907780They're too busy prompting ChatGPT to write up a fake apology/explanation of the RMT shit, no time for patch notes.
>>582907779Deep demo is a meme.
>>582907815>>582907780>>582907779>>582907771>>582907768>>582907746I dont know wht class to play. I come from DND online
How will druid be bros
>>582907896Shit until 20
>>582907430this isnt cata or mop lil bro. holy isnt a melee healer
>>582907746>pserver shitters already reverse engineering server architecture for the inevitable day when they fuck up wow forever and then the cycle starts over again like the matrix
>>582907741I think you're forgetting>rogue can just choose to not engage in fights they don't want
>>582906198It's really apparent that they completely gave up on the art style after BfA (as opposed to the gradual surrender that had been happening for many years) and just let the furries on the team do whatever they wanted. The Facebook ads for Dragonflight were straight up explicitly aimed only at scalies.
>>582907695>Hopefully you go back.sure, open me a Legion server and i'll gladly go back, it's the only expansion i played after WotLK
me? playing prot warrior with my friends
>>582907889you'd like paladin, rogue,warlock, mage. very engaging
>>582907889why is there a baby cat on your head?
>>582900694its been updated broski
>>582906198New gnoll looks too friendly for a creature that rips off faces from people an use it to make tents.
>>582897873Based Staysafe.Ziqo tried to cancel him years ago the brown nigger.
>>582906987This entirely depends on endgame, but in vanilla any talents placed into BM are completely wasted. Unlimited snares, survivability and snare-breaking are better than a 3 second long stun. You will utlimately likely go lone wolf if we're being honest.
>>582907951>reverse engineeringno, people are just prompting Astra and Astra is just like "Sure, let me do that for you" no reverse engineering needed anymore.
>>582907701Yes, he assured Blizzard that its the best version of Paladin ever both on stream and whenever he met with them.
>>582907864It's funny that they have put so much emphasis on making pets central to Demo instead of sacrificing their pet, only to not give pets avoidance and render it all moot anyway.>Boy I can't wait to play my pet class in PvE!>Shitfuck McAssrape the new dungeon boss puts a debuff on your pet that the healer refuses to cleanse and they die, assuming you haven't run out of soul shards from resummoning them the 32 times they've already died to incidental AoE damage this dungeon
>>582907992What baby cat
>>582907968>join pvp server>don't engage in pvprogues sissies call this a win
Why are all the Alliance Paladin options tied to some kind of weapon? This is so fucking retardedAnd I can't go Horde because all the German streamers are going Horde
>>582908151chat is that real?
>>582906123All it takes is one sheep and a rank 1 frostbolt to wreck you, I played a hunter in anni classic and mages were my hardest matchup by far.
>>582900694I have a guild that's coming over from Turtle so I won't have a problem getting a spot whatever meme spec I play
>>582908151WTF
>>582907942>has talents for seals and judges>spell hit for holy spells (seals and judges)>imp. consc which encourages you to be in melee since your consc will make enemies take more holy damage from youCome on bro
>>582906507The sexiest spell after chain lighting
>>582906507BAAASED
>>582907930And we just won't know more until the cap is increased?
>>582907771Retail doesnt even play like an mmo anymore. It plays like an arpg with raids. And the writing is so bad its no longer comical, its now painfully bad.
>>582908024Yeah, looks like some furfag designed it.
>>582908170Paladins do shit damage no matter what don't worry about your weapon
OH NONONONONOForevercel bros!??!?!WoW forever cracked and fully playable with your own server hosting.Shouldn't have closed Turtle WoW....Now everyone can play and do whatever the fuck they want in this garbage beta without having to pay LMAOOOOYOU DON'T EVEN NEED TO BUY THAT SHITTY 30 USD RACE.And best part is you don't have to put up with Olympus :)
>>582900694I wanted to main ele shaman...
>>582907180You run BM until 60.At 60 you abandon BM for Marksman PvE and Marks/Surv hybrid PvP
>>582908261but it doesnt affect your healing and no one cares about holy's shit tier damage
>>582908395this was always possible boebeit
the more i write it down the less it makes sense to play alliance for anything but RP in Forever? the racial/class combos suck for PvE, they suck for PvP too if you dont want to be a fucking Gnomeare Blizzard taking note of this? the faction imbalance is getting bigger by the minutealso, fucking dwarves man
>>582908168>join pvp server>name: Rat King>ambush losers fighting mobs at 50% hp for ez kills with zero effort required>if someone tries to fight me blind/vanish and scurry away>never loseproblem, chuddie?
>>582908395Thanks sent blizzard the link
>>582908520Asmon is on AllianceHorde is for shitskins
>>582907779they swapped the sac talents around so now imp gives shadow damage and succubus fire so you have to play some bastardized succubus sac fire build with imp to give stamina to the group
https://www.reddit.com/r/wowforever/comments/1wtoxyk/payo_insults_viewers_that_complain_about_the_gold/Payo is a piece of shit that needs to get banned
>>582908380I'm going tank, but if a weapon gives me any kind of benefit, my brain will force me to use it
>>582908526>class is called rogue>people get mad when you play dirty
>>582908469Pretty much every piece of spellpower gear will also have healing so I don't know what you're smoking. Stop pretending like this is vanilla.
>>582908616>grifter grifting
>>582908616asmon defends third world botting to sell gold, he's spiritually a rapefugee
no one cares about your literal who streamer drama. kill yourself NOW
>>582906257the midget factor is definitely a bowser space, but the rest can definitely be managed
>>582908013>pala >4 out of 5 S tier spots>probably S tier for heals tooaggrend-sama... i kneel
>>582908395you forgot the basics of LURKMOAR>>582907746
>>582908653Go back
>>582908841>>582908741
>>582907746>NOOO YOU CAN'T PLAY THE GAME YOU PAID FOR LOCALLY YOU HAVE TO PLAY ON OUR OWN SERVERS WHERE WE CAN BAN YOU IF YOU SAY THE N WORD WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THE STREAMER SERVERS HAVE A GOOD POPULATION
Why are there so many different Olympus guilds on the beta?
>"Ret" Paladins will probably end up just scaling off pure int and spellpower better than melee stats>Will probably end up doing gay shit like using spellpower weapons>All because they have to make holy shock accessible earlier for people that don't want to play the sponsored streamer seal twist build
>>582908458ignore this anon, get the Steelarrow Crossbow and level as marksmanits extremely low firing speed means your aimed shots and multi-shot scale extremely well with your AP all the way to level 50+as soon as you fill out mortal shots this thing becomes a monster and stays powerful the entire time
>they're going to make fire mage useless for MC/BWL againfuck
>>582907746can they get the items in game to drop though so that they get unencrypted so we can see everything hidden right now
>*fail as warrior*>*fail as priest*paladin main here
They toned down the rain, looks a lot better now.
>>582908395You mean I don't have to deal with the streamers and gold sellers anymore with that?I can name my char however I want to?
>>582908526why bother though? druids can do the exact same thing, have much better ability to escape, and will actually get invited to groups
what kind of brown is xaryu? mexican? i must know how much i should hate him
>>582908926>going to have to fight retardins for healing gear because it also has spellpower baked into it
>>582908616Having played both, Horde chat is better overall. Alliance chat is an insufferable cringefest. People are competing to see who can be edgier and I'm not sure if it's Zoomers or Millennials trying to sound like Zoomers.
>>582909131American
>>582908963>"All fire and frost damage is frostfire damage."
>>582909131ah yes, "the internet hate machine" XDDD
>The best part about Wow classic? Playing with other people, grouping together and being social with them while building up bonds>Plays on a locally hosted server that only he can play on
>>582908993probably
>>582909164Make sure to thank Blizzard for listening to streamers when the ret paladin rolls on the 2h healing maces they added for Shamans and Druids!
>>582908395third worlders eating good rn
>>582908995>tenkeyless
>>582908956>Don't spec into your personal warrior and BW instant gib combo when pets are at the strongest they will ever be at any point in vanillalolFun fact, people forget this, you can still get this crossbow as BM.
>>582909131mexican
i wonder if mages are gonna be warlock-tier in terms of popularity this time around
>>582909468every spec will be within 10% of the top dps spec
>holy paladins won't be a melee heal-ACK
>>582909164wont be a problem when personal loot is added
patch tomorrow?
>>582908727Being in melee does NOTHING to your healing in forever. In cata/mop (and even wrath) you had to be in melee to generate holy power and get mana from your swings. Now, in forever, hitting a mob contributes 0 to your healing, that's my point. If champion of light wasn't so deep in the ret tree, you would have gone for prot surv. talents instead of wasting so many points in ret
>>582897873based staysafe, i loved having someone unapologetically chuddy in the WoW section to the point where they went on a witchhunt to get him banned. too bad he turned into a smart tv MIGA boomer cointelpro content creator
does wotf share cd with pvp trinket?
>>582909634most likely yes
>>582908861you're brown
Why does everyone on this website type like such an obnoxious moron?
>>582909587what the fuck, the retail AoE burst spender is a healing skill now xD
>Casters trying to do anything while my Bestial Wrath Broken Tooth 0.7 attacks per second AND 2 Hawks are auto attacking them while I'm also shooting themGenuinely what are they even supposed to do
>>582909634there was a patch today on the launcher about 300megs, of course theres not a single patch note about it because fuck you for wanting to know about the software on your PC. id imagine its just preloaded assets and client changes for level cap increase
>>582909131Honestly the only streamer from Onlyfags guild I've seen who seems cool is that little french canadian frog who constantly trolls people.
>>582897836How long until jizzard adds wow tokens to this fucking dogshit
>>582909821>she doesn't know about pet attack speed normalization
>>582908956>this lvl 22 crossbow which now rips threat from the pet instantly is great bro trust
>>582909364it's not a tenkeyless but having no numpad is vastly superior for gaming
Will palis get Wings eventually?
>>582909718no
>flying into STV when it's rainingCool
>>582909821not my problem
>>582909904What are you talking about? Pets have different attack speeds on the beta right now, you can get a worg from SFK with 1.2 speed.
>>582909883hopefully never, brownoidget a real job and fix your third world shithole and stop leeching off america
GUYS do i go undead or orc for rogue pvp?
Fuck Undercity fuck filthy hordecucks living in the sewer I'm going back to Chadlliance
>>582909953Wow.
>>582909920Pallys are truly the worst faggots in the game
>>582909587please no, the fag twirl is the worst thing that ever happened to Paladins
>>582909686NTA, but to play doubles avacado slightly, being in melee as holy will be advantageous to keep up Judgements if you don't have another Paladin in the group while also benefitting from SoW.Still don't think it'll be worth it though.
>>582909468warlock will be dead as fuck on alliance because now both undead and orcs fuck them
PLEASE ADD ANOTHER MAILBOX TO DARNASSUSPLEASE
>>582910161just play on pve
>>582910074human
SODAPOPPIN SIDES WITH THE PEOPLEHE SAYS ZIQO SHOULD BE BANNED FOR THE GOOD OF THE GAME
>>582909842it updated the pvp tab to show the rank14 cap
>>582909821>sl/sl>45% exhaust>4 dots on you while drain tankinglmao
>>582909772years of experience teach you that well formatted posts get no replies while ragebait works erry tiem
>hammer of wrath is now instant cast>6s cooldown>ret paladins will have lots of spell damage>wont have mana issuesret paladins will now be getting all KBs in your BGs
How much money are you guys putting away for launch? I don't know if a thousand bucks is enough
>>582908013>elemental mogged by smite priest evenS-Shaman bros? S-Surely Aggrend-sama will buff the class before launch.....
>>582909821i stand in the smog
I WANT TO FUCKING PLAY CAN WE FAST FORWARD OCTOBER PLEASE
>>582909904its damage normalization retardo and was there for 2019 vanilla aswellattack speed is unique still
>>582910016>amerimongrel immediately starts projecting his insecuritiesLMAOalso you're fucking delusional if you think that microsoft-activision-blizzard isn't going to try to cash in on this shitbasically kill yourself fatty
>>582910145yea i dont think it will be worth it. also no one's picking vigil because it's dogshit compared to champion of the light, i'd rather have beacon to cement us a THE single target healer or radiance if they wanted to give us a shit aoe heal
130 IQ Tauren bull here. Miss me with your curse of flesh corrupted titan constructs. Where are the Forest Troll women at?
>>582910447>He doesn't tab over to /biz/Bro, y-you're 30+...
i want to get knotted by femtaurs now not in november
>>582910447120$ for buying gold50$ for a small boost200$ for itemsI think I am ok
>>582909749you're black even LMAOOOOOO
>>582910426thats their 99yard execute spell right?
>>582910506I wanna believe that they are gonna do open beta to stress test the servers.
>>582910325*pvp trinkets**pops balanced orc racial to remove your curses and banes with added 15% magic res for 8s lmao*
>>582910618yes
>>582910447Zero cause I'm not retarded enough to spend money on this garbage you actual goycattle
>>582910426>casts shadow word death with 300% crit damage and execute talentscute paladin
does the preorder + refund before release strat still work?
>>582909821druids can literally just root you and your pet and stand in your deadzone while they moonfire and starfire in your face
undead or orc rogue??????????????????????????????????????????????????
>>582910471Its WOTLK all over again. Enhance or bust.
>>582910832Troll
Announcement soon.
>>582910750>shadow priest>having manalmao
>>582909587>healing whirlwindHell yeah.>>582910117Why?
>>582910780yeah and in worse case scenario you charge back and get your account banned
I'll drop half of my paycheck on launch for gold
>fat brown third worlder spends $200 or whatever on buying gold for the tourney>tourney updates rules and bans any form of gold buyinglmao.
Oh Earth Shield was a tbc thing was it, that's a shame I like Earth Shield.
>>582898406>Asmongold's take on RMT was so bad that I now have to reconsider all the political takes I agree with him on.even for a wow player that's pathetic
>>582908526>play druid>rat king attacks me>faerie fire>natures grasp>abolish poison>they cannot run away>they cannot vanish>they cannot blind>laugh as I watch them die
>>582910750>with 300% crit damageSorry, but you get the same crit damage as all other casters.
>>582910447>How much money are you guys putting away for launch?I'm planning on spending over $100 a month on my favorite hobby. $15 for access to the game, then whatever's left on buying gold and underground GDKP runs to maximize my advantage.FeelsGoodMan
>>582910570>/biz/ is just all crypto and gambling surely, youre going to make it on that next meme coin anon. you wont get rug pulled for the 150th time, honest!
>>582910916woah 400 dollars, high roller over herea broke loser irl but at least you can be rich ingame with the help of chang
>>582910629I want to believe that too
>>582910961So is he banned from the tourney since Blizz took his gold away
>>582910904they have 0 mana issues now, and UD got not only a passive lifetap, cannibalize gives mana back too
>>582910801>entangling roots>30 yard range
>>582909953>>582910085>lil gup & yung blud discovering clouds
>>582910916Make sure you have your stream active when you buy it so you don't get banned anon.
>>582898406>Asmongold's take on RMT was so bad that I now have to reconsider all the political takes I agree with him on.Good, hes a grifter anon, he literally riles up peopleHe already talks like trumpHis father was the only one who was reigning him in, now that he is gone, asmon is just grifting like fucking crazyOf course hes never gonna speek out about RMT because he KNOWS his viewers rmt for hi
barney was funnier when he wasnt larping as a woman
>>582910961>>fat brown third worlderwhich one? there are 5 of them
>>582911072lmao cry loser :)
>>582898627>He said gold buyers shouldn't be banned because viewers could use that maliciously against streamers.Which funny because he literally goes on to explain how he would use RMTd gold to harm a streamer lmao
>>582911114Shapeshifting removes all slows and snares and they move faster than any other class in the game. You must be retarded.
they should give dwarf the stoneform racial from retail
>>582911104>lil sis hasn't seen the simstouch of the grave is extremely negligible, like 1% increased dps and very small healing. also its normalized and doesn't scale with gear>reduces mana cost of shadow spells by 50%this just means you'll have 25% mana left after one kill, instead of 0
>>582910801>root the uncontrollable bw pet
>>582911104This looks so cancerous for pvp, these retard devs are just making pve changes exclusively without regard for the whole picture. Same shit with shamans losing EM.
>>582910234they will still send you into the av mines to pve drek thar
>>582898406>>582898632>>582898816>>582898981>>582903046>>582904751bros? i love youhis chats as toxic as can be, there's a couple likeminded people in there but they get drowned out by all the monkey noiseshave a virtual hug boys
>>582911319Pets will get nerfed like they were in SoD so no one will use them.
>>582910801>[viper stings you]
STOP NERFING HUNNER
>>582911292im not talking about touch of the grave, im talking about dark sacrifice.the mana isnt an issue, and downraking is even more overpowered now, they will always be able to SW:Death killsteal, it has no travel time unlike your hammer
>>582911446So far theyve been buffer quite significantly.
Hasan viewer circle jerk. I dont even like Masongold, but I can recognize patterns. Both are Free Mason actors btw. Hasan even wears his ring sometimes knowing his followers are too dumb to ever question it.
>>582910547This is you, stop projecting
>>582911541>the mana isnt an issuehow do you know?
>>582910663you do know curses and banes can just be reapplied after 8 secondsyou're not getting through 30-40% dr wit hwhatever pet in 8 seconds lmaohunters are the easiest shit on warlock
>>582911649average horde player
>>582911478>15 sec cd added like retoiletLmao
i want hunters to shoot while moving
>>582911649Is that what peak performance looks like?
>listen here, bubba, it's really not worth losing your 20 year old account for gold buying :)>if you're not a streamer ofc, sorry we didn't make that clear streamer-sama, can we suck your cock later? you will still stream the game right?
>>582911478
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cb8r05IXiyI>blizzard uploads video on the class and spec changes>doesn't even mention enhancement shaman when talking about shamans
>>582898406Wait til you figure out that whole exchange with Payo was scripted bullshit.
>>582911854stutter stepping is unironically the most fun part of playing hunter
>Shaman can benefit from their own WF/FT totems as long as they aren't using WF/FT themselvesI wonder if using Frostbrand on your weapon and just having all 3 at once will be a thing
>>582912002looks like a private server highlight
>>582911732the hunter is faster than you outranges you and viper stings your ass
no gdkp = doa
>>582911798They can dispell it too. but its just to be annoying.
There's so obviously going to be runes to get for things like enhance duel wield. I most of you are retarded
>>582912138>i cant rmt
>>582911649>>582910547>>582911741>>582911872woops forgot thishttps://youtu.be/U06jlgpMtQs?t=2hasan layer down the hall and to the right, just bend over and spread cheeks for entry
>>582912138join a guild nigger
>>582911726yes my 8-10k manapool is really going to hurt to find 87mana to cast SW:D rank1 or 170mana max rank SW:D
Any druids wanna test something for me? I was informed you can change your druid bear/cat forms at the barber. Can you change the Skelf form into the other races forms too and vice versa if you own Skelves?
>>582912138t. rmtranny
>>582911175what RP-PvP does to someone...
>hop on alliance territory>look out for olympus members alone>slash laugh slash chicken slash spit>laugh as those cvcks who constantly talk about PURDGING DA AZEROTH :D lower their eyes in front of a 1.5K health orcbvll
>>582911648many are completely stupid as fuck and think asmon actually lives in that room he streams from, oblivious to the fact he's playing a character and that's his set
>>582912131
INV BIG DICK PUMPER DPS HERE
>>582912232>muh made up numberscope
>>582912239>Can you change the Skelf form into the other races forms too and vice versa if you own Skelves?No you can't. Tauren just get their retail Tauren bear forms (even on SD), same with Night Elves and Sky Elves are stuck with their own.The Fang Set Bonus makes me think there will be more customization options for druids in the full release, it's a very popular system they have on retail right now.
>>582898725The tank has around as much health as a typical level-20 pve healer/ caster.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cb8r05IXiyI>No Enh slideTankies confirmed!?
>>582912396Its weird but I like the shape of the skelf bear form but I dont wanna be one, so im hoping for more options over time. Preferably in SD though.
I've literally never seen an Olympus member anywhere.
>>582911243they move faster until they come out of cat form to cast the root and which point i can trinket the root off and now im faster because cheetah and you no longer having dashsounds like a skill issue on your part
>>582912239No you cannot use different races' shapeshifted forms.
>>582912387im on to you you just dont want the secret out and more people playing OP shadow
>>582912370Sorry, I only invite tiny dick pumpers
>>582912362>1 min cooldown
>>582912474Had one ninja invite me to their PvE server guild last night. Instant ignore.
>>582912487>feral charge>bear stuns you>roots againnothing personnel kid>hunter uses cheetah>gets hit by moonfire>dazedripbozo>>582912635You'll be dead before anyone needs to use it a second time.
Warrior Paladin or Druid tank?I think Druid because you can tank all the dungeons fine and you can actually engage in pvp meaningfully.
>>582912551>1v1 duel spec that crumbles in group pvp scenarios>OP
>>582912708you really think you will be able to get close enough to the hunter to do any of this and that is really fucking funny
>>582912731pallyits the love child of one of the main devswarrior is deaddruid is meh
you know what would make wow forever even better?FUCKING MALFURIONwe need a quest to uncover fandrals treachery and awaken the tree gigachad man
>>582912731true, unless you have a premade friend group rolling warrior for pvp is going to be misery
GOD PLEASE i hope warlock isnt over played
>>582912362AIIIIIIIE HUNTER SAMA DO NOT KNOT ME WITH YOUR BARBED COCK
>>582912731Cat form looks like ass right now. Druid just has the best ability to run away.
>>582912936Don't forget the new Hawk ability that has no minimum range and summons 2 more pets to pushback
>>582912936>hunter is most common class>people die to pets frequently>waves of people go to twitter/reddit and complain>blizzard nerfs it to oblivionSoD already shows what happens if that is even remotely as good as you hope it will be. Also there's no shot that pet attack speeds aren't normalized.
>>582912916It seems like it will probably be the least played unironically. People will still pick mage and warrior without thinking too hard about all the nerfs, Rogues are always a thing and every other class got way more interesting stuff.
What's the way to earn Waylaid supplies?
>>582913113my cat has 1.0 attack speed in the beta right now
>>582912731Purely as a tank I think prot warrior is going to be fucking awesome and the best tankBut if you value versatility like being able to quest and PvP its the worst
>>582911358Doesn't this also apply to warlocks? Like with dots being able to crit? Or the new capstone that lets you have a pet out even though you got a buff?
>>582913113>blizzard ignores everything >xaryu or some streamer complains>OH WE MUST NERF THIS IMMEDIATELY!
>>582913230buy boxes from ah, fill the order and turn in
>>582912435>>582912002wow we really are stuck with this dogshit rage gen change are we
>>582913328nobody would ever use the sac buff in pvp anon you would use soul link like a human being but now you can do both
>>582912967Any chance it gets better? I was thinking of playing druid so I can tank, heal and still have a damage spec for solo.
>>582913113>Also there's no shot that pet attack speeds aren't normalized.d-does he know???Certain pets are tamed with Rank I-VII increased attack speed. The rake comes with Rank VI and Darkshore Nightsabers come with Rank V, Broken Tooth and ZG bats have rank VII signifying rank VII but they are untameable at this moment. This makes me believe pet attack speed might even end up being a pet trainable at some point.
>>582912731warrior is still probably the safest bet long term, imo. It still is probably going to be the 'tankiest' tank, will deal the most damage, and has the best taunt. It has the most straightforward way of gaining immediate threat as well with d stance and bigger threat multipliers than paladin/druid has access to iirc.
>>582913113Pet speed definitely isn't normalized, they even added a new passive to indicate when they have different speeds.
>>582901352>be hunter chad>solo WC and Deadmines >all loot is mine
>>582913489If you want to be the most versatile then definitely go druid. Even if its bad now in some aspects, classes will get further balancing because this isn't #nochanges
>>582912936>he thinks he is getting brokentooth on a mega server with shardingYou're never going to get it because you're not going to be able to camp for hours reliably to catch an uncontested spawn of it. Now that I think about it, I am going to just sit and camp brokentooth so when it spawns and a hunter tries to tame I can kill it first
>>582913429You can have a felhunter out with a 15% shadow damage buff. Or you can have a voidwalker out and have 3% healing every 4 seconds of your max health. Seems really strong. In PvE your strongest dps pet with 15% shadow damage seems good too. This capstone is amazing.
>>582913489cat spec for solo is the same single ability spam it always was for leveling and it is very good because you self heal with 0 downtime
Horde bulls are invading our lands, walking all over us, raping our women, and we're literally fucking powerless to stop it. Even Olympus runs at the sight of a Horde raid
>>582913598dumbest pic of all time. neither of the bottom two look anything like the disney/pixar slop at the top
>>582912731Druid and Paladin are both very safe picks. I think Druids are really taking off especially. Plus you have so many other ways to play if you dont feel like tanking.
>>582913653you are getting raped by every other cat in the game just fine broken tooth wont matter against your meme druid/warlock
>>582913662>In PvE your strongest dps pet with 15% shadow damage seems good too. This capstone is amazing.*dies to every dungeon and raid boss with any aoe because they don't have avoidance*
>>582913653I've done it every time, poopsock to 37, take a breather and take it slow from there.>ShardingThis makes it easier. I've actually failed multiple times to really, really pull ahead of everyone and I end up being like 1-20 or 30ish hunters that have reached 37. But not every hunter cares to grab him, and with layers you can hop around each shard. You can communicate with the few hunters that are ahead of you and they will give you timers for respective layers.Takes me about 1-2 hours.
>>582913604Can warlocks do this with the new voidwalker?
>>582913859I thought Blizzard gave warlock pets avoidance, no?
>>582913113The game should not be patched for pvp at all
>>582913662you wont play deep demonology for pve you go for sac and ruin then affliction for crit and hit
At any rate, the new petopia:https://beastmaster.io/forever
>>582912852>uncover fandrals treacheryeveryone knows about it. its teldrassil.
>>582900012>removed metadataUnbased slopper
Moonstalker - Moonstalker Sire - 1.3 ASThe Rake - 1.2 ASBroken Tooth - 1.0 AS
>>582914048It will absolutely be patched for PvP.
>>582914048How can we be sure since all we have is beta data? As it stands warlocks have like 4-5 specs. Deep into each spec tree and 1-2 hybrid builds.
>>582914358It shouldnt
>>582914293faggrend probably doesn't even know about pet attack speeds
Is the beta going to have BGs later?
retoilet pedo janny signaling it's here and about to bake the thread with faggot or pedo shit, by replying to the pedo catbox dump still up, grim
God I was I was a Femtaur
>>582914519>I was I wasAnon you should slow down a bit on the gooning...
>>582914398>>582914061
>>582914447It will, and it should be.
>>582914483paladins dont have pets
>>582914604No wow is about pvePvp is an afterthought as it should be
Olympians he on but has some problems
>>582914727Nope. PvP servers exist and are the most popular format. Therefore classes must be balanced around 1v1 engagements.
>>582914838No
>>582914358This is how it works. Pets are already running under the normalization engine as of right now.Takk does not have movement speed increases, and nobody has tamed Lupos yet but there is no fucking way he is doing shadow damage.However, to get around this, blizzard applied a spellbook passives to mobs that historically had high attack speed. Reaching back into the engine and reapplying attack speeds to specific tamed pets.If you were to tame a darkshore nightsaber and open the pet spellbook, there would be a passive under him that said Faster Attack Speed V. If you tamed the rake, there would be a passive in there that said Passive Attack Speed VI. And then Passive attack speed VII for broken tooth.Indicating that blizzard is actively running the normalization engine, but retained and reached back into the mechanics of taming pets to make them retain their attack speed attributes even under pet normalization.
post your best blorcs
>>582914095I actually looked for that the other day by the tranny owner of petopia said they were quitting wow due to forever taking from retail. Is this the same 'petopia'?
>>582909953>blizz is fleecing a whole new generation of retards with the ps1 graphics game they released for unc bluds back in 2004
>>582914850It's not your decision to make, and no one cares about your opinion.
>>582914861Kek. Casters absolutely in shambles.
>>582915014It is
>>582915009soul vs soulless
>>582915009Savage beast vs what makes furries pp get hard
>>582914861I wonder if they'll make the attack speed trainable somehow, maybe if you have to get a pet with the passive first.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cb8r05IXiyIWhat's your repsonse ForeverVirgins
>>582915009>bet they wont catch on that i'm disingenious with retail screenshots!!!
>>582915027Broken tooth is a complete meme and only minmaxing pve retards think it's the bis pvp pet. Boar is just better for the stun. I bet no one can even post a side by side of broken tooth vs a normal cat spell pushback webm
>>582915317boars charge + claw does not workcharge is bugged and never automatically is being used
>>582915009Really hate what they did to hyenas. Didn't even leave a rare with the old models to tame if you wanted that style in retail
>>582915214>1,00,000stopped reading there.
>>582915142>>582915272>>582915403Thats not a wow forever comparions retards its retail on the right
>>582915470No one said it was retard
>>582915290my response is that someone fucked up the editing and forgot to include enhance
Can druids mine/herb/skin while in cat/travel form in Forever?Is dual gathering on a druid a good idea?
new>>582915631>>582915631>>582915631
>>582915367and what, you don't think that will get fixed? Get real. Also thanks for ignoring what I said
>>582915317The ZG bat has 1.0 AS and also sonic boom btw.
>>582915014Seems blizzard thinks otherwise if you are whining this hard. Cope and seethe minigamefag.
>>582915027Hunter auto loses vs shadow priest and warlock. Mage only needs 2-3 ice lances and a hunter is dead. They don'thave any long casts, they can use rank 1 frost bolt so pushback is irrelevant. Druids, shaman, and paladin can just remove vipersting.Hunters are delusional if they think they're actually going to matter. There is going to be so many of you faggots too, that you're never getting into a raid or party. No tanks want you in the group because you roll on their items.
>>582915694this spell is so misogynist and I am tired of pretending it's not
>>582915317Boar charge is great, I've used a lot in my hunter career but it does have less damage.
>>582915762Mage, druid, shaman and paladin all lose to hunter in leveling wpvp, the only pvp that matters.
>>582912435enhance tanks only existed because they wanted to beta test prot pally tanks but also not give one faction +1 extra tank spec.You have paladin tanks on horde now instead of enhance tanks. enjoy.