Previous thread: >>582813568FOR DA EMP'RAH edition>Latest News/UpdatesDarktide:1.13.0 Patch Noteshttps://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/patch-1-13-0-patch-notes/125866NEW LIVE EVENT - Allies and Adversaries:https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/special-live-event-allies-and-adversaries-depths-of-the-damned-out-now/125968Kuli's guides for beginners:https://steamcommunity.com/id/kulii/myworkshopfiles/?section=guides&appid=1361210>Acknowledged but barely discussed :Left4DeadDeep Rock GalacticKilling FloorPaydayHelldivers 2Earth Defense ForceWWZThe Outlast TrialsBarotraumaNo More Room in Hell 2Aliens: Fireteam Elite 2Vermintide 2Jump Spaceand others>Future gamesDen Of Wolves - TBADarkSwarm - TBABlight: Survival - TBADeep Dish Dungeon - TBA>Build planners:Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
new hammr is cool but wow did they lose all their sound/effect designers? It feels like it's really light and impactlessWhat a step down from things like the pickaxe or the VT2 wp hammer
Cadia?More like CACAdia!
Nonbelievers on suicide watch.
>>582905129
>>582905504Got this but bigger?
hestia was actually my wife all along but don't tell anyone
>>582905129If they add SoB i will literally uninstall and take the oath out of spite
So honestly I think the Thugshot is ok. I tried that Belfast build I found in the last thread. It does work better as a melee build's companion weapon for quick shooting asshole specials and such. That said it's still not crazy impressive. But hey at least I can say I tried it.
>>582905129why did you make this like 20 posts early
>>582905129>didn't add the SM2 linknigger splitfaggot jeet
>>582905727There's an oath for coping and seething?
>>582905872he wanted to make sure helldivers 2, DRG's news, and SM2 didn't get added back in
>>582906387Ummm yea that's what slayer oath is
>>582906531But HD2 is in there?
>>582907134I don't see anything
Did you notice how crusher conga lines reappeared with this patch?
>>582905606no
>>582908138There were a few crushers, but I've been seeing more maulers if anything.
So I have to do two low int missions to unlock the new mission? Wut. LEave it to fatshark to make a bad system worse
>get dogged once>its overyou told me climbing havoc in the reset week was easy
>>582908582only if you start at rank 30 and play day 1 of the patch with sweats
why making a new thread that early? I swear third worlder should be permabanned from the internet
>>582908138Good.
>>582908806Well who the fuck plays havoc day 1 when there's a new campaign?It's day 2 and its already over, trench shitters can't push a dog in front of them
>>582909072>Well who the fuck plays havoc day 1 when there's a new campaign?People who want to avoid exactly what you're experiencing right now.
I want to fuck this
>>582909637Do it pussy. You won't.
>>582908916Hilariously ironic
>>582910136keep going, ratjeet
>new update nuked all of my builds on most classes>fix up my 2-3 havoc builds per class>look through the rest>it's just random garbage I made for fun>or it's copies of random builds that I did temporarily for testing and never deleted>don't even remember what the trees looked like>not really attached to the builds>end up discarding like 80% of my buildsMeh, not much of a loss really.
Holy shit the new map is fucking fun I love it.I never knew how much I missed these VT2 style boss runs, I hope they lean more into this.Do (You) think adding more boss maps in 'avoques makes sense? And are they even going to add this one?
>>582910607I don't know, but I want to see more bosses done like this. The fatman felt like a bigger threat than any monstrosity.
>>582910391I keep old builds because I'm tired of equipping curios and changing cosmeticsWhen I need to make a new build I pick whatever tab has the curios and cosmetics I wantIf swedes added loadouts for curios and cosmetics, I would delete 80% of my builds
>>582910229You’re confused here buddy
>cool time to test out this new hammer >all hordes get instantly evaporized by a flame staff psyker>bosses and crushers all get instakilled the moment they spawn by krak vet + a zealot with stealthuhhhIs it just me or has auric gotten really really stupid? It's been a while but I remember there actually being things to kill without having to rush ahead of the team
read some youtube comments talking about "dauntless" wasnt that already a leaked code word before or am I tripping
>>582910981You get the sweats that clear everything before you can get a hit in, or you get the retards that can't unnet you if you fell right in front of them.
>>582910981Keep up fatty
>finally get to test the huntsman's shotgun>zealot>can't seem to one-shot snipers from one side of the psykhanium to the other>hm weird>put on unarmored + specialists>still leaves snipers with like 10% health>no blessing to actually increase its damage in this use case>consistently takes 2 aimed shots>sometimes takes 3 shots from hipfire>try out the slug combat shotgun>it just kills the sniper with a headshot every time>faster fire rate, reliably kills with 2 bodyshots with +25% unarmoredHow will SPASissies cope?
>>582911887By hoping fatshark realizes they need to buff it slightly so it actually hits breakpoints. I get the impression they tested it entirely on Vet with the ranged damage buffs so it's balanced assuming you're using them, which makes it worthless on zealot.
>guardsmen with flamers in the new cinematic>but hehe not in game because fuck you FATSHAAAARKWHY MUST YOU TORTURE ME SO
>>582912250Even if they give it a minor buff to one-tap auric snipers at range with +35% damage from perk slots, it'll still remain useless in higher havoc levels because those fuck with breakpoints again. It'd be in a similar situation to the kickback, which can indeed one-tap auric snipers at any range, assuming No Hurting Friends! is active. Which is fucking amazing in auric, but literally worthless in havoc, and ogryn plays a completely different role that doesn't even warrant using it there.Also it's still worthless on veteran when the combat shotgun can two-tap crushers and giga DPS monsters if you stack reload speed + damage, and EVEN THAT is obsoleted by the humble laspistol having fuck-you amounts of ammo and much better team synergy since it gets really fat off of crit auras.
>>582911887>having to hs stuff from a mile awayno thanks..
>>582912586>conveniently ignoring the line directly belowBased illiterate room temp IQ drooler
>>582912287Those are obviously zealots with guardsman armor cosmetics chud
>>582912716I skipped it yea. I dont like the shotgun either way
>>582912765cool, psykers with ogryn armor when?
>>582911887crit with flechette works for me, the spread is broad enough to let you score multi kills easily
>>582911887i like it a lot more on vet, its like using revolver
i hope the next class isn't SoB just to watch the redditards and disctroons have another melty like they had with HIV scum. just want it to have a better trailer
>>582913583Even better if it's something SoB adjacent so it practically locks them out as a class option for the foreseeable future
Plague marine boss fight karking when
>>582913583>>582913861I am savoring every single one of these posts
>>582913861i love the way you think ma man
>>582913391>crit with flechette works for meYeah and then it has to crit, which it won't do with its pitiful base 10%, and 35% after fully buffed BP.I also just tried it again with Unseen Blade and that does reliably one-tap snipers. Unfortunately this is useless if the sniper is targeting you lol, but maybe that'll make it somewhat usable.
>>582914073You've attracted these kinds of posts by being an annoying piece of shit about the faction for every upcoming class.
>>582911887>Sniping with a Shotgun>As a ZealotBuddy...
>>582914323bro your scattershot ???
>>582914576If it can't do that it is literally useless because zealot doesn't need its ranged weapon slot for anything else. I don't even use knives, and even those have it beat at shotgun ranges. What the fuck do you expect me to do, mow down hordes with it?>>582914640>What the fuck do you expect me to do, mow down hordes with it?
>>582912287>I want the shitty flamer on vet
The new character is going to be a Blood Axe Mercenary but they will move like a reskinned Ogryn.
>>582912250They need to overhaul the game>Stagger works when it does>Doesn't when it doesn't>Breakpoints make or break everything>Old guns like the ilas still have shit recoil and recoil based animations that new shit doesn't suffer from Fuck, add overkill damage to cleave or something, or add escalating damage against a specific targetRight now it's just >Breakpoint this>Trash thatHell if they can address yellow tgh there may be hope yet
>>582914824Actually would be interesting playing an ork in terms of dialogue between both themselves and the humies. I can hear the fatalist now.>"This is it, Atoma has fallen on its darkest day if we have to resort to these greenskins for help!">"Maybe if yooz humies wuz betta at krumpin' spiky gitz ya woodn't hafta!">"So help me, ork!"
>>582914819>I want a powerful hordeclear ranged weapon>on a class with shitloads of ranged buffs and ammo regenAnon, I...
>>582914460>say "I like sisters of battle and want them in darktide">get a post saying "We can't have those, we already have zealot" for the 100th time>YOU'RE THE ONE BEING ANNOYING!!!yeah, okayenjoy coping and seething all the way to december
>>582915467>"I like sisters of battle and want them in darktide"Now tell us about the hotcakes.
>>582915467No amount of revisionist history is going to un-post the several, threadS (PLURAL) long SoBtroon meltdowns that have happened in the past.
>>582915537You're remembering the person having the meltdown as being anyone other than you, yes, we get it.
I had my doubts, but it really is the bronytroon.
>>582913583There was recently that Kill Team release with the Sanctifiers. It came with the Miraculist, but more importantly, it came with what are essentially zealots but 1 of them had a plasmagun.Wouldn't surprise me if it turns out that the next class is based on that Kill Team as a whole. Like it pics aspect from each model.Even Hive Scum took some direct inspiration from the inquisitorial agents Kill Team which came with a "penal legionare" who was wearing a chainmail tunic/apron. And Hive Scum specifically got that chainmail tunic/apron as a free cosmetic.
>>582915746Yep
>>582915746Ratjeet coded post
>>582915467Just make a female zealot with white hair, equip a chain sword and a boltgun.You don't even see your character models anyway.
>>582915761What's contentious is that the Miraculist is characterized in KT as a pure 'spell' caster with flaming fists as melee weapons, while the datamined class has basically a Zealot+Vet loadout like the more generic Sanctifiers.
>>582915807>bronytroon is the faggot who goes on "poopfartschizo" tirades about ratjeetYou're not subtle.
>we can't have sister of battle, we already have female zealot>we can't have sister of battle, she'd overlap too much with [something retarded]>we can't have sister of battle, she'd be too strong>you are NEVER getting sister of battle, I will make it my PERSONAL MISSION in life to ensure it NEVER happens!>it's happeningmald mald mald mald mald
>>582916036It wouldn't be the first time a fist weapon was baked in as an ability, we do have the chordclaw, and it would track for fatshark to be as lazy as possible and just rework that.
>>582916036True, but at the same time. The class could have access to miraculist cosmetics.Hell, it could even be the premium cosmetic or the deluxe cosmetic set for that class.
>>582915746The fact that xe just tripped my image filter pretty much confirms this. Unexpected, but not that surprising in hindsight.
>>582916126We're onto them. One day we'll be able to identify all of their posts.
>>582916036>for the last class they just say fuck it to the sci-fi 40k bullshit>and go for a straight up fantasy wizard, with fiery fireballs mana potions ice walls and magic missiles (pointy hat and robes included)based honestly
>>582916160>>we can't have sister of battle, we already have female zealotCorrect.>>we can't have sister of battle, she'd overlap too much with [something retarded]Zealot isn't retarded, it's a perfect analogue for sisters of battle already.>>we can't have sister of battle, she'd be too strongAlso true>>you are NEVER getting sister of battle, I will make it my PERSONAL MISSION in life to ensure it NEVER happens!You deserve it for being annoying faggot retard tranny who spams about his sissy fantasies.>>it's happeningIt's not happening, and it shouldn't happen. Both are right.
>>582916498What do you mean last class?
>I-I've got sister of battle and related images filtered!>the class won't release if I ignore it!hahaha mald
>>582916612>maldYou must be at least 18 years or older to post on this site.
>>582913583>>582914226Damn I love these pics
>hammer feels anemic and unweighty, wrong sounds and teleports across your screen during some combos>boss is 90% just copypasted vt2 boss>Ragged King dialogue is very obviously mostly AI generated, has GPT speech patterns ("it's not just x - it's y." and speaking in very short abrupt sentences which is what happens when you prompt it to make dialogue for an evil/mysterious fantasy character)I say this knowing fully well Fatshark was never a good dev, but wow they are not what they once were
well I am not the bronytroon or whatever and I do want sisters of battle too!
>>582916549>they're coping so hard they're already pulling out the doublethinklol>>582916690mald
>>582916758Two things can be true at the same time.I don't have any strong feelings about sisters, I wouldn't mind them.SoBtroon should join the 41%.These aren't mutually exclusive or anything.
>>582916571>he thinks there are going to be more than 8 classes cute retard-chan
>>582915274It's still a dumb design of "click to puff, hold right click to actually be a flamethrower"Like why not just do a TF2 Flamerthrower? It's a flamethrower, who honestly does "controlled fire" with one?
>>582916907>they're already moving their position to "w-whatever, I never cared that much..."
>>582916907I agree.God we've got an actual zoo of mentally ill resident faggots in this general, haven't we
>maldIs it 2020 again or something
>>58291649840k has plenty of that already so there’s nothing wrong with it that’s the beauty of it
>>582917137What norwood you on lil' bro?
>>582917107Every user is responsible for the quality of the posts in their general. You know what to do.
>>582917137cope and sneed
>>582915746>>582915807THE HAMBURGLER STRIKES AGAIN I SEE
>>582917348I'LL CATCH YOU NEXT TIME, SCARLET PIMPERNEL!
>>582917248What, report? The mods couldn't give any less of a fuck, I've stopped bothering.Idk if they personally ignore my reports or reports in general but since the great jeet troonout of '26 and subsequent 2 bans of that one angry fin schizo I haven't seen anyone banned, they just don't care anymore.
For new classes, the only wh40k archetypes I can think of that seem appropriate for Darktide are Spyrer and SoB and it does seem to be hinting at SoB more than anything.Are there fleur-de-lys symbols in the game prior to this last mission?But imagine playing as one of these fuckers. That would be peak reject.
>>582917107I honestly think it's just one turbo autist sockpuppeting. I don't have proof, but it's just as likely.Such is the consequence of anonymous.
>>582917137You can tell that they are an angry redditor when they use tems like that.Troon are often behind in vocabulary because they get theirs from reddit, and reddit in turn gets it from 4chan but years later.
>>582917573Norwood 5 coded post
>>582917137looks like you struck a nerve here
>>582917573That or it's just an autist hyperfixating on that one specific word and being literally chemically unable to move on lolWould explain the brony side of things too, and the inability to be reasoned with or to empathize with others
>>582917137He’s mid meltdown go easy on him
>>582917426I think you mean...THE SCARLET PU-PU-PUMPERNICKEL!
I think SoB overlap too much with the other classes to be interesting (especially knowing Fatshark and how they handle mechanics) but if they make them cute girls all will be forgiven and I wont complain
>>582917573>>582917827>>582917852>>582917813>/copeg/ reveals itself as 30yo balding uncszamn...this surprises no one...
>>582916884>spamming same pictures>same 1 word responses because he has no actual arguments besides "i want it to happen"Yep, it's bronytroon confirmed 100%
>>582917560>Veteran: So..uh...You like cards?>Flaggelant: RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-
>>582917852more like mid MALDDOWN haha!HAHAHA!
>/copeg/ - Coping About Games Getting Content We Find Personally Objectionable Because Of An Obsession With Trannies
Reminder that ogryn will be getting heavy bolters.
>>582917560>arcoflaggelanttoo based for Fartniggers, sorry
>>582918178>does arbitrarily 1/4 as much as the human bolter despite firing shells twice as big
SKIBIDI NOW PLEASE
>>582917560Flaggellants would be one of the laziest and thus likeliest things they could do if it wasn’t for the fact everything about would be so jarring
>>582918178How would that work? Twin-Linked Stubber but less ammo to work with?
>adding sob so they can finally show zealot the rabbitswhen do they add stormtroopers so they can finally kill vet?
>>582918178>>582918381>half ammo capacity>no accuracy, laughable stability>3 shots to kill a gunner>10 seconds to reloadI love it. Fund it and ship it IMMEDIATELY.
>OK I'LL CONFESS. I JUST WANT TO PLAY THE MAIN CHARACTER CLASSES LIKE SOB AND SPACE MARINES AND TECH PREISTS! NOT THEIR LACKEYS! WAAAAAAAAAH!!!!It's so damn obvious. Also>I WANT SOB SO I CAN JACK OFF TO NON-UGLY FACES! I NEED TO HAVE AN ERECTION FOR SLAANESH'S SAKE! REEEEEHonestly I'm the only one that doesn't give two shits how a character looks if it makes sense for art direction. I'm as much of a coomer gooner as other degens, but I don't need it in literallry everything.
>>582917852It's pretty funny that he seems to lose his composure faster and faster everytime he comes here to spam his shit.
>>582918728reddit post
>>582918728>OK I'LL CONFESS. I JUST WANT TO PLAY THE MAIN CHARACTER CLASSES LIKE SOB AND SPACE MARINES AND TECH PREISTS! NOT THEIR LACKEYS! WAAAAAAAAAH!!!!Yeah, that's pretty much been the problem with Darktide from the start. "You're not that guy" has already proven to be a failing design decision. No one likes the "rejects" aesthetic or narrative.
>>582917560wouldn't just be peak but also add SoB as a non playable faction. the salt that'd come out of that
>>582919125I look like this and say this
>>582918728>>I WANT SOB SO I CAN JACK OFF TO NON-UGLY FACES! I NEED TO HAVE AN ERECTION FOR SLAANESH'S SAKE! REEEEEWhat's funnier if they really think like this, they are completely and utterly delusional in thinking that Fatshark will make sisters look actually hot.They will all look like the same crackhead prostitutes like the rest of the women in the game.Even more likely the devs will completely flatten their boob armor too making the entire aesthetic point of sisters moot and gone.
>they're copingit's beautiful
>Dauntless codename>can access Eviscerator>not sistuhOkay then, smart guy - what else would it be then?>>582919372stfu tranny
>>582919431Crusader
>>582919143>"You're not that guy" has already proven to be a failing design decision.Clearly hasn't been seeing the game is just trucking on just fine. The whole "i want to play as a space marine" crowd has always been a loud minority.>No one likes the "rejects" aesthetic or narrative.Clearly they do because they keep buying the crackhead cosmetics and people still care and are more interested in the story than playing Space Marine 2.People who want their power fantasy shit should just go play Boltgun and Space Marine. They are tailor made for you.But it is not at all surprising that troons come in here trying to turn Darktide into something it never was, they always like to subvert shit that wasn't made for them.
>>582919431
>>582919431Crusader, Sanctifier, Miraculist.>but le magic classPsyker is also a magic class and has access to a full melee build and force greatswords.This wouldn't be anything new or "revolutionary" for the game at all.
>>582919554>subvert shit that wasn't made for them.you will le not be le missed, chud :^)
>>582919554>the game is just trucking on just fineYou think one map a year is everything going well?>and are more interested in the story than playing Space Marine 2pic, objectively false, and the one number being higher is because darktide just got an update recentlyboth games are doing terribly by the metric of being "live service" games
>>582919157Kek>>582919125What is he doing with his hands
>>582919554sadly, space marine players being obnoxious faggots when anybody besides them gets any breadcrumb of attention isn't unique to darktide
>>582919431The Coper>one personality, a balding 30yo male>his only voiceline is "BET YOU THOUGHT I'D BE SISTER OF BATTLE!"
>>582919931They're also years old by this point. They're doing far better than the likes of Marathon at any rate.
>>582919931How often do normal live service games update?
Brunt is STILL MISSING btw
>>582919931>You think one map a year is everything going well?Yeah, if it wasn't Darktide would've been End-of-Serviced ages ago.>>582919931>but le numbers manThis recent update literally forwarded the story of Darktide.People are playing the game for the story and interested in it because it is cool.>both are doing terriblyNo, not really. Seeing the devs are making content for both games.You want to see an actually failed live service game? Payday 3, Rogue Core, Killing Floor 3
>>582919931Are you one of those braindead niggers who think games that don't have 500k concurrent players at all times are dead?
>>582920191Yep, I just heard Rannick and Morrow discussing it on the Mourningstar. Weird, I could have sworn I heard him over the vox recently.
holy shit, this general is gonna be trash for months on end from now on. doesn't even matter which class is next.
>>582920191No, he returned in Expeditions, there is dialogue about it between player characters.Nobody knows about this however because practically nobody plays Expeditions.
>>582920413>from now onAre you fucking serious?
>>582920413I'm going to get them spiraling to the point where any mention of the dauntless codeword is going to have them enraged.
>>582920191>>582920383>Hestia and Zola throw a tarp over Brunt whenever others come looking for him so they can keep using him to rape the ragged king.
>>582920191Who is NIGO>>582920039>What is he doing with his handsSix, seven
Does Rannick know Brahms killed Margrave or is he just being incredibly sarcastic about it, because I genuinely cannot fucking tell.
>>582920547>le every thread from the dawn of time was horriblenah I had some good thread experience when I visited and ppl had settled
>>582920897this image is already not aging well
>>582920807I believe with certainty that he possibly might maybe know. I think.
>>582920897eviscerated the SoBtranny
Does the boss have some sort of damage cap per hit because when I hit him with an infiltrator zealot thunder hammer that can one shot captains it barely tickles him but when I use a vet with a recon lasgun he melts
>>582920897the last chances to post this image... Enjoy
>>582921175Probably uses the same logic as void shields, so chip damage weapons will work better. Though I've seen the chordclaw rape the health bar as usual, so who fucking knows.
There's really no reason to pick grenades as zealot, right? It's either a worse version of shock mines or a worse version of chem grenade.
>>582921345Well the fun part about having worse shock mines is no one fucking plays arbites anymore, so no one will have anything to compare it to
Maybe SoBtroon is ratjeet, or ratjeet is pretending to be SoBtroon. The samefagging has very obviously begun, and the propensity to have entire-day-long meltdowns seems to plague both of these characters.
>>582921345The fire grenade is surprisingly useful, and if you don't have a scoooom on your team you can go nades on the zealot and pick up the scraps left behind by the ogrynI saw one anon swear by the shock grenade, but personally I think it's niggerdogshit, I'd never pick it.
>>582921175>>582921338What's the gimmick for the new boss' shield?Like I've shot at it and even meleed it couple of times but the shield's "health bar" doesn't move at all.What's the trick to make him drop the shield? Or is there no trick or is it jus timer based?
>>582921345if you're not running the flamer and no one else on your team needs grenade pick ups then you may as well take the stuns in case you need to do a clutch revive or something
>>582921665timer
>>582921665You can't drop the shield just wait him out, and bring some ranged damage too the last stages of the fight are cancer if you're melee and not running the chudclaw in the team
>>582921345>It's either a worse version of shock mines or a worse version of chem grenade.The grenades being worse than their obviously upgraded counterparts doesn't necessarily mean they're useless, just worse.Think of it this way: Most of zealot's power comes from its passives, keystones, and active ability. Scum's active abilities are either rampage or useless dogshit, all of the keystones suck ass, and the passives just provide damage. A lot of the class' power is in the blitz.If you are playing zealot + scum in the same party, then yes, zealot grenades are massively deprioritized and you should never steal pickups from the scum.Immolation grenades buy a ton of space during havoc boss fights, because they erase trash mobs trickling in, and thus reduce the amount of incoming pressure your team faces. They are also really good for some longer capsule objectives, since you can chuck a nade in a chokepoint on either side and seriously thin out the horde that would otherwise come molest you.>>582921756I used to think this, but it's better to just run max revive speed and go do it yourself. The stun grenades are unfortunately just rather bad. In auric you don't need em, in havoc there's too high a chance of stun immune shit, and gunners still rape you if you take too long to revive.
>>582921665If the bar is blue, it can't be damaged, same deal as the Karnak twins fight>Or is there no trick or is it jus timer based?Seems that way, it's legitimately a sequenced boss battle like the Karnak twins, treat it exactly the same.
>>582920897This image has aged extremely well
>>582920413It’s literally last October/November all over again. Funny how it’s all full circle.
You lost.
>>582921852Doesn't shooting the purple orb get him in the middle faster?
>ratjeet terminologyYep, it's him
>>582922362bro where u gettin ur ratjeet lore from
>>582920591>thinking they share him with anyonebakana anon-kun
>>582922343No, it just makes it so the orb won't rape you
>>582922215It's not exactly the same, there's no skitarii shitposting.
>they've been calling literally everyone they don't like "ratjeet" for months now>the "splittranny" is "ratjeet," the "sobtroon" is "ratjeet," anyone posting about vermintide is "ratjeet"
>>582922673damn darktide 2 looks bussin fr
>>582922716All of these posters have the uncanny commonality of making the lowest quality posts this general has ever seen. It's easier to assume it's the same mentally ill retard, than to assume several different retards can be equally mentally ill.Granted, it's a little hyperbole on vermintide posters. Not all of them are bad, just most, somehow. I guess that's what you get then the game is basically played to death, solved, unupdated, and mostly used to try and bait darktide players for some retarded reason.Of course, trying to engage (You) in honest conversation isn't going to achieve anything because you're one of those low quality posters, if not The low quality poster himself.
auric needs to be a lot harder
>erm, askshully, here's my essay on why I'm not a gay schizophrenic retard
>>582922937>It's easier to assume it's the same mentally ill retardmy man we've had multiple cases of this degenerate spinning arguments out of nothing, replying to himself, and posting le moralfag "look at the state of this general!" posts for HOURSjust ignore the nonhuman, and harbor resentment towards the moderation team that won't permaban him
>>582923045They need to bring some of havoc's intensity to auric. Like don't bring any of the stat bullshit, like lower health and toughness, keep those away.But bring the higher of enemy spawns and horde sizes, occasional captain/champion spawn, etc.
Miraculist..
>>582922937starve it of attention until it joins the 41%
>>582922362The bronytroon was here, but has since stopped posting, ratjeet doesn't like another schizo muscling in on his territory, so he's picked up the slack.
>>582923045auric maelstroms with the randoms (so solo, effectively) is arguably as hard as h40s with a TS-stacked team
>>582923045they should at least let you select maelstrom in the campaign
>>582923240>harbor resentment towards the moderation team that won't permaban himGiven that we've had a stretch of time where we couldn't go half a general without someone getting banned, it's safe to assume that this nigger instantly ban evades the moment the jannies beat him to death with their brooms. I don't think it's fair to point the finger at them, even if I think they're too permissive. But I don't know exactly how moderation works behind the scenes, maybe they don't even bother to look at posts that don't have a minimum number of reports. That's certainly how I'd do it. In which case, you have only yourself to blame.
>>582922673True; now it’s been replaced with… whatever is going on now.>>582922716It’s been like a month at best.
the new boss GAPES melee heavy teams hard
>>582905501It's a Rogue Trader, it's why it's called Dauntless. Famous name of a ship and they get pictured with chainswords.
SO WHY DO GOOD GIRLS LIKE BAD GUYSI'VE HAD THIS QUESTION FOR A REALLY LONG TIME
>>582924034>release new melee weapon (for ogryn) and a bunch of boring shit/reskins>3/4 ogryns in the team on average>release a new map too>it punishes the melee buildsyup, average swiggery at work
>>582920897THE OVERLAP!!! AHHH!!!!
>>582924398Damn, this is 100% it.
>>582919554>People who want their power fantasy shitDarktide is inherently a power fantasy shit due to being L4D clone, there is no way around it.Fatshark insists you are just a "Reject", a random prisoner, which completely doesn't work with anything related to a narrative and story, since you are playing as a 4 man elite squad doing specs ops missions behind enemy lines, while killing thousands of enemies, including professional army. Of all game genres, this one in particular doesn't fit mudcore theme they insist on. It was an incorrect choice which makes everything related to story nonsensical.Just like setting everything on a single Hive World and in a single Hive City was an incorrect design choice as wellAnd no, presence of Marines isn't needed here at all.
>>582923776Technically since around late august looks like, so two months, but someone has been calling every vermintide player ratjeet and insinuating it's one person since 2024
>>582924603>all the rogue traders in the galaxy came to die en masse in this dirty sewerbravo brapshark
>>582924398That's retarded, why would they give us a class on the same level of authority as brahms
Um ratsisters??? Our update??1!!??
>>582924786>Fatshark insists you are just a "Reject", a random prisonerYes, and you still kill thousands of enemies.You know what that means? A space marine and a sister of battle single handedly kill 100 000 of enemies.
>>582925124A Reject starting off at trust level 1 would not be able to handle the kind of shit we're familiar with at Auric and Havoc levels. We've long since stopped being nobody prisoners, why the fuck does nobody remember the cutscene where Rannick himself invites us into the warband as an actual member??
>Wanted muculent broth>Got explodey floors-goop editionDang...
>>582924398A single rogue trader or thousands? Both sound retarded but one less so>>582924409You made that post a while ago
>>582925021Why would they give us sister of battle when we already have it?
>>582925451If they add sister of battle they should add inquisitorial power armor cosmetics for the rest of the gang, we are full fledged agents of the inquisition with an artificer who treats us like her children.
>>582925794Because it's a class that could work under the authority of a rogue trader and inquisition retinue, while another rogue trader is not. Retard.
Sister of battle are cool but i don't want to play as oneGive me like a ratling or something>inb4 retard faggots essay about how snipers wouldn't worksave yourself the effort because I won't read the ramblings of some stupid faggot who lacks the faculties to imagine a take on sniping that works fine
>>582925451>We've long since stopped being nobody prisonersNo, we have not.You're still a nobody prisoner. Only thing that changed is your "employer". You don't even get paid.
>>582925124It means that Fatshark picked a wrong theme for a game in this genre. At no point, ever, even right after starting the game, still in a tutorial, this game ever makes you feel like a "Reject" since it's physically impossible too achieve in a genre which requires from you to slaughter from hundreds to thousands on enemies easily.Which is why people still complain about it and will continue to complain, forever. A dissonance between what happens in game and what story insists is happening is too strong to ignore. Which in turn completely fucks over narrative and absurd character banter and dialogue during those missions.That sort of a theme would work in some autistic singleplayer game the best probably. Like Kenshi or Battle Brothers 40k clone, where you start equal or even outright inferior to generic npcs and have no hope facing even a single enemy normally, let alone hundreds of professional soldiers. Not in a damn l4d clone.
>>582926426snipers would not work because niggers tongue my anusbottom text
>>582925543>>Wanted muculent brothWell, Rodin has a nice big cauldron in his lair...
Just noticed that Brahm's special brew is "priestly" spelled backwards. There are a few ways to interpret that, especially with Hestia's little... inversion? and of course all the chatter about Rannick's specialists.
>>582926496Anon, your dockets??
>>582926426Maybe don't play a game from devs that can't imagine a take on sniping that works then.
>>582925543>we're not the HONOURED GUESTS>we're just some random niggers running errandsrejectbros...
>>582926183Rogue Traders have been known help each other out, it'll be the necromancer class with his own retinue. We already have SoB. Cockmongling anus sipping rapist of his own mother.
>>582926502>Which is why people still complain about ityou're the only person complaining about it. and no, your schizophrenic hallucinations agreeing with you don't count
>>582926502>It means that Fatshark picked a wrong theme for a game in this genre.No, they didn't. It works perfectly fine and people clearly still love it. People love the aspect that we are just 4 crackheads going around as Wolfer is tearing his hair out in disbelief.>but i don't feel like rejectAnd you still are one regardless. Fatshark hasn't and never will budge from this.
>>582926771>priestlySo... Missionary then.
>>582926775>Anon, your dockets??Those are chocolate coins we use to bribe Brunt into giving us new weapons.
>>582926881Yeah have you known a lot of stories where 4 rogue traders get sent to deal with hive scum in a random city without their retinues to back them up? Retard.
>>582926957i don't think it is a big problem you can just say they have the blessing of the emperor if you want, but they have shown they are willing to budge with arbiter and skitari
>>582927140Man I could go for some chocolate coins right now. Cadbury, NOT Hersheys.
>>582927149You should read a post before responding...super retard.
>>582927008>nooo sister would copy zealot too much>it will be the job that literally already inspired zealot instead
>>582927196Arby and skittle are DLC classes, the 4 originals are still rejects and always been. They haven't budged on this, and this is what the main discussion is about.
>>582927324>Cadbury, NOT Hersheys.commie fuck
>>582927485I will not eat chocolate made to taste like vomit on purpose, FUCK YOU
>Yes, they've been consistently adding classes that are player classes in the 40k TTRPGs but here's why the next one WON'T be the only combat oriented class that's left.
>>582927467You don't understand. I need it to be anything other than sister of battle. It will actually ruin me if it is sister of battle. Fatshark cannot do this to me. If that sobtroon wins my life is forfeit.
>>582927483well they can't go back in time and change those classes, but they are budging now adding ones that are not "rejects" i think a power armor cosmetic would fix everything
>>582927452If you think they are even considering the idea of having a class with a bunch of followers that people can then have 4 of in a match then you are genuinely retarded. Necromancer was only ever a thing because only one Sienna could be in a match at one time.
>>582927467Crusader then
>>582927568oh yeah? you shit on the flag too?!
>>582927714I didn't bother to read your post since you didn't read mine, go eat your own ass.
>>582927758now that i can get behind i love these guys and we'd finally get S&S
>>582927792If I had to choose between shitting on the flag and eating Hersheys, I would get one of those cattle euthanasia guns and make a mess of my brains
>>582927932Cope and seethe retard, next time dont post "suggestions" that a 5 year old would think of
>>582927714We can already do this with Arbites and their pet completely shuts down enemies, I don't see why someone that will have pets that simply fight and could possibly die would be an issue. You appear to have very low intelligence, too low to actually understand how game mechanics work.
>>582927572cuz you're an obnoxious nigger and watching you have another melty is more entertaining
>>582928231Some people are just brain dead, the amount of power we have is pretty insane as is.
>>582928231low IQ projecting nigger hands typed this post btw
>>582927937I would pig so hard if they actually just put that picture in the game.
So the only thing the datamine found of note was "Devout"?
>>582928231yours is too low to understand the first thing about the settingthey would be luckly to run into one rogue trader much less the hundreds they would need to justify them all running around the deck
>>582928482It's Dauntless, maybe Devout is further along the road
>>582928482It's "dauntless," and it has access to flamer, eviscerator, veteran power sword, and plasma gun.
>>582928518LOL you think the amount of people running on the ship is canon or the squads as is? Fucking moron.
>>582927937These look so much cooler than SoBs imagine dual wielding a sword and shield like that
>literal subhuman mongrels ITT trying to argue rogue traders would make for a good class holy fuck
>>582928723it is, they don't show cutscenes of one lone skitari arbitrator or ganger arriving on the ship, you are one of hundreds working under your superior
>>582928601and meltagun! sister KINEMA of the highest order incoming
>>582928518Bro, you absolute retard we don't have legions of smart chipped Ogryns. We absolutely can't have a squad of 4 of them either. You don't know shit about this setting lol
>>582928843bro it HAS to be something other than SoB, I literally cannot play a female, it makes me feel funny
>WE NEED TO HAVE PRIMARCHS THEY WOULD TOTALLY ALSO SHOW UP TO DEAL WITH A RANDOM CHAOS INCURSION IN SOME IRRELEVANT BACKWATER SYSTEM!!!!!This is what you sound like by the way
>>582928949an inquisitor could have that done to his ship's retinue easily it is just an implantyou are never going to gather even 4 rogue traders in the same spot, it could never happen
>>582929092Playing as the Lion taking side quests to avoid meeting Guilliman would be fun
>>582928943we won't get the multimelta before vet gets heavy weapons or the chinks will riot
>>582929194>you are never going to gather even 4 rogue traders in the same spot>Nearly one hundred Rogue Traders gathered on Macragge during the Era Indomitus for an emergency symposium called by the Primarch Roboute Guilliman
>>582926934I'm not the one who made that art and not the other guy you talked to>>582926957Yes, they did>It works perfectly fineIt doesn't. It's utterly absurd and nonsensical. You have a mission which is even set up as a local PDF regiment holding the line against overwhelming enemy forces which they cannot defeat. You can see those guys lined up alongside Leman Russ tanks, unable to progress. So they send you on a specs ops mission, 4 supposedly random prisoners, to break through enemy forces actual army cannot. This is absurd and breaks the very logic of the setting. There is no defending it."Rejects" could only work as a some background trivia, mentioned that they are being send in waves to overwhelm Moebian 6th forces with amount of bodies. While players explicitly have to be defined as professional, elite, veteran members of an Inquisitorial Warband, being send on a specs ops missions which PDF, Rejects and other loyalist cannot handle.>People love the aspect that we are just 4 crackheads going around as Wolfer is tearing his hair out in disbelief.Nope, which is why people still complain about it. Which is why Hive Scum was so hated. And why people want more classes like Arbites, Skitarii and SoB>And you still are one regardlessThat's the very problem. They should have retconned it ages ago. Instead they still insist on it and because of this story and atmosphere suffers.
>>582929440Nobody really wants SoB except 1 or two retards that plague these threads.
>>582929429>and he told them all to go die in a pox infested sewer on one single planet
Here is the problem with the idea of adding a class with a bunch of minions following you around>if they are targetable and killable by enemies, that means they'll be useless on high difficulties>if they are not targetable and killable by enemies, that means their power level has to be limited>if their power level is limited, they will feel shit to use on higher difficulties>if their power level is not limited, they will completely destroy everything the moment you have more than one player playing that class in the missionDarktide simply does not offer the kind of environment where being a minion master in any degree is possible while also making it fun and balanced. Anyone who isn't low IQ and has actually played the game at all would know this immediately. So I guess anyone who tries to claim this could work is just self reporting themselves as a shitter
>>582929714>Canonically they triumphed
>>582929627that must explain all the zealots cosplaying sisters. Just two guys obsessively multi-boxing since release
>>582929803>minion classJust fucking DELETE TERMINUS WARRANT FROM THE FUCKING GAME and give me a keystone that adds +1 extra dog to the arbitrator. I don't care if it's some weaker doglet that needs training or calibrating or is just young or whatever the fuck. I don't care if it makes both dogs weaker. I want +dog.Alternatively, or even additionally, rework the three retarded center keystone nodes, and give us a second skill tree page instead, like scum does it. Let me customize my dog to hyper-prioritize disablers with a fucking vengeance, even if it comes at the cost of dealing double damage or whatever, because that's all I really want it for.
Guy i just spoke to Fatshark and they said SoB is not happening. Instead we're getting an Imperial Navigator. His ability is that he helps navigate the team through the mission. Fatshark went all in on this class, even creating a new animation. >"Ability: Point the way. The Navigator points his hand forward, indicating where we need to go next."He also has a Blitz ability where he teleports to the target location.
>>582930227if they added such a thing, the average player still would get lost
>>582927467>>nooo sister would copy zealot too muchSeeing that the future class will have shit like eviscerators, meaning it is 100% going to be a melee centric class, it does copy too much shit from Zealot and shouldn't be added.
>>582927636>i think a power armor cosmetic would fixNothing because you can't fucking see it at all.Nevermind that we already get access to bunch of armors, and we already have a power armor back pack that lets us LARP having power armor anyway.So you already have your wish.
canonically sisters can be as young as 15 fatshark better provide us character options to match this crucial lore
>>582930516While playing the navigator
>>582929092Technically this region is supposedly in Terra’s backyard more or less
>>582927467I'd like to lean more to the literary interpretation (Hestia's 'priestly' nature being inverted with Brahms knowing her true story, maybe also Emora 'ministering unto her flock', welcoming the lost lamb back to the fold etc etc) but I do have a weakness for that sort of thing (and crosswords) so I can tend to see it where it isn't; sometimes a cigar is just a cigar and all that. That said, it's a fairly blatant word to use.
>>582929440>It's utterly absurd and nonsensical.It's not. It wouldn't be any less absurd and non-sensical with sisters or marines.We already have boltgun games and they are just same as Darktide.The rejects are fine, your giant wall of text just tells me you're eternally butthurt over something that was never promised or shown to be made.Go play boltgun and space marine 2, they are more up to your speed.>b-but they should've retconned itThey shouldn't it's fine as is. Only thing needing changing is your own attitude.
>>582931143>it wouldn't be any less absurd and non-sensical with sisters or marinestitus is a canon character now, so is boltgun40k kill counts fit a game like this without abstraction, when you don't pick very boring and retarded hobo classes
This jo bitches voice is so grating bruh
>>582932187first of: who?secondly: who cares?
>>582932187this but everyone except hadron i wish she were the sole mission director
>>582932271jo mama
>>582932302There are too many characters it feels like they are trying to give work to VA buddies or some shit.
>>582932370You RAPED him
>>582932187she's hot though
>>582932370
>>582932892Eeehhhh..
>>582931143>It wouldn't be any less absurd and non-sensical with sisters or marines.It would be more sensible. Just like with any other elite squad capable of handling spec ops mission like this Imperium has access to. Like an actual Rogue Trader/Inquisitor retinues made up out of badasses gathered from all over galaxy, Assassinorum, Scions and many others>The rejects are fine,They are not fine at all. Game cannot depict theme it has going on in this genre. We are not acting as random prisoners should, so why pretend otherwise? This game IS power fantasy no different from Space Marine 2.>you're eternally butthurt over something that was never promised or shown to be made.Yeah, I'm complaining about this since it was announced, since before game released. An unending amount of seethe.>They shouldn't it's fine as is. Only thing needing changing is your own attitude.How is it fine?I do not feel like a "Reject", because I'm an unstoppable killing machine, committing superhero feats, slaughtering people en masse. Fatshark failed at making me feel like a "Reject". Predictably. This is not a video game genre for itAt this same time story, characters in game and Fatshark insist I'm just a random "Reject". How? This is not at all how this game works. This is not even how missions are set up.Is the point to make a power fantasy game or a mudcore game? Because those are directly, mutually exclusive themes. Game plays like a power fantasy one. Solution is to alter the theme to fit it.
>>582931796Those are both exceptions though
spwace maween update tomorrowlet's see if darktide will survive
Is rogue trader fun bros
>>582933252>It would be more sensible.Not at all. People constantly over blow how powerful space marines and sisters of battle are. They are not that strong at all.Marines can get killed by wooden spears.>they are not fineThey are fine. Only one who isn't ok with it is you because you want the game to be something it was never implied to be.>i don't feel like a rejectYou still are one, you only get access to regular shit. Most of the shit we use is just regular shit, like power swords, those are common in the guard. Same with bolters, they have never been rare. That's made up wankery from Dark Heresy RPGs unironically.The game is a horde shooter killing loads of enemies comes with the genre.If this game was with space marines we'd be killing hundreds of thousands of enemies in a single mission.
>>582935038you want to ask that on the crpg thread
>>582931796>titus is a canon character nowAlways was.And he is a named character. Named characters are always wanked to hell and back, and therefore irrelevant because they always perform against the odds.
>>582935324Ew
Did Brunts VA go on strike irl or something>dude he's just like.. missing or something>hey im back for da new level
>>582935038Do you like crpgs or ttrpgs? It's long, it's more text based, and a lot of reading. Also, I would consider waiting until they stop making DLC for it because a replay is unlikely. Base game is 60+ hours and the DLC is all side stories so it doesn't impact the main story that much
>>582935038It's great and has awesome waifus
>>582935205>Marines can get killed by wooden spears.We don’t know anything about the human wielding it and according to the writer it probably didn’t even happen (also says it’s a “one in a million thing”).
>>582926821>he says while veteran helbore dominates havocretard retard retard
>>582935615Nobody knows. Maybe doing some covert ops stuff even though he's an Ogryn
>>582935615Brunt didn't even have a speaking line despite being supposedly a core member of the warband until like 2-3 years into the game when Boretis Trials were added
>>582936525>>582936326What a pointless nothing character
>>582936601That's like half the characters in this game lmao
>>582936601If we got more than 1-2 story updates a year that advanced the plot, it could be fun. But we don't so most anons have just stopped caring that much
Obviously the right move is to make the next class a SoB/crusader mix with both cosmetic options and genders available
>>582938002It can only have one class name
>>582936001Still get killed by wooden spears.Marines aren't as tough people think they are. Nevermind that sending 1 marine against a 4000+ heretics that are armed with lasguns and bunch of other shit, that also have dozens of chaos monstrosities, chaos corrupted ogryns that bits of carapace armor and .50 cal machine guns, elite guardsmen who have access to plasma guns, hellguns, shotguns, long las rifles, flamers and grenadiers. And on top of this they are lead by captains and lieutenants who are equipped with pieces of carapace armor, plasma pistols and power swords and power mauls.All this is going to lead to the marine getting carved into pieces.Darktide would be equally ridiculous even if it was with marines when we have shit like this in game.
>>582935038I loved it honestly. Almost did another playthrough but I want to wait for the final dlc now.
>>582938353The marines can and do die pretty often in wars, what sets them apart from ordinary human soldiers is that they rack up much larger bodycounts before going down, especially compared to how little it takes to raise and equip aspirants, even with the attrition rates there.
>>582938353Did you somehow miss the part the writer literally says it probably didn’t even happen and where we’re missing a ton of context
>>582937386It's truly hard to care about a story when you're given about 30 seconds of voice lines of story only every 6 months.
>>582935038yeah
>>582939136Marines die in droves in the books and not just to some wooden spears.They are not invincible and never were. You send 1 marine, hell you send 4 of them against 4000+ heretic force with the shit I mentioned aboe (average Havoc 40 mission btw) and they will die. Even if this game was made with marines since from the start it'd be just as ridiculous to see them survive all this shit.People just genuinely wank off space marines to retarded levels because they are dumb
>>582938328Says who
>>582940024Me.
Did vet always have a built in ammo regen or did the patch change thatAre the others worth taking over survivalist?
>>582940192yeah, vet always had ammo regen called scavenger. survivalist was just stronger scavenger
>>582940192Yes, the numbers were just swapped around from the iconic and the aura.>Are the others worth taking over survivalist?No because you still want as much ammo regen as you can get. 7.5% to damage is beaten out by 1.5% ammo regen, and movement speed is whatever.
>>582940014they also just as often do insane acts of heroism defying all odds and obstacles to achieve victory, 4 marines could definitely kill a 4000+ heretic force with the shit you mentioned above if the story were about them
>>582938328Crusader it is then.
>>582940014Didn’t ask and not getting into this. The wooden spear thing is bullshit is the bottom line. It’s from an unreliable narrator who disliked both the person he was talking to and speaking of.
>>582940739>4 marines could definitely kill a 4000+ heretic forceLmao, no.Also I see what you're doing, here's my last (You)
>>582941115titus could do it by himself
I kind of like the huntsman shotgun.
>>582941381i like it, i think it just needs 20 more shells
>>582929842They're already sisters, that's why we won't get sob and most people know that. You're just a retard and need to be smacked around a bit so you start behaving better.
>>582941381It's pretty good. Was using it on Vet, unfortunately I hate melee on Vet, which it felt like I had to do a lot more when using the SG.
>>582941226Titus is special + Emperor working through him. Where as anyone with a plasma gun down there can kill a space marine.
>>582941092>>582939136>>582936001Don’t bother trying to talk sense into anti-marine posters, they’re nearly as bad as marine wankers themselves at this point
>>582941972we could be special too like the ubersreik five but 40k imagine they did that that would be cool if we got a game like vermintide but in warhammer 40k
>>582941674he’s been getting smacked around for months at this point
Guys, I can't do it. I can't play as a female. Sister of Battle's weapon lineup is already amazing and I just know I'll never get to experience it because I get a funny feeling in my chest whenever a game forces me to play as a woman. This fucking sucks so bad man.
>>582942156We are, sort of, the emperor's taken interest in our retards given the seer's babbling
>>582942420so are they never budging from you being worthless rejects or are you now playing a blessed living saint of the emperor?living saints should be allowed some power armor methinks
>>582941972I feel like the keyword there is “can”, and even that’s not a guarantee.
>>582941674>that's why we won't get sobhahaha
>>582942156We are 100% special, people can't kill the things we've been killing in the game. Entire squads of space marines get killed by the demons we kill casually, Emperor's working through us. It's canon that he's going through the network of mankind and helping people out by augmenting their actions or abilities in various ways, some people he even straight up resurrects from death like Celestine.
>>582942675First we have to define what a reject actually is. Penal soldiers Zola brought over to the mourningstar to serve as a disposable strike force.Only the original four retards were rejects, they stopped being rejects by the end of the first act of the campaign when they were accepted into the warband proper. Title unlocks also indicate this progression. Arbitrators, Hive Scum and Skitarii were never rejects and this is now reflected by their initial title no longer being Reject.The whole idea of Fatshark sticking to a grunt fantasy was never the case, anons made it up. The game progression is specifically about a nobody becoming a somebody.
>>582935615Doubt it, it's the same VA as one of the 'gryns, and he had new lines recorded in the meanwhile
>>582942916Celestine actually has to resurrect herself, we're pretty sure she was a natural born perpetual, it's just that the emperor took an interest in her for obvious reasons. She has to climb a mountainous pile of her own corpses and reclaim her gear before she can manifest again.
>>582942916Daemons don’t operate on a set level of power so that makes sense. Sometimes they’re strong sometimes they’re weak.
What's the deal with the last part of the bossIt's like his model turned invisible
We should get Daemonhost as a class, Inquisitors have used them in canon. Imagine how fun it would be to go into that floating berserker frenzy and perform that force-choke execute on things.
>>582944226We are not a Radical Ordo Malleus warband thoughbeit, we wouldn't have the forbidden knowledge to do so.
>>582944368We don't need it, we just need to ask for them from another inquisitor.
>>582944512Ask who exactly in a sector cut off from communications and reinforcements?
>>582919635>>582927008No way these will be next class for the most simple idea. Robe physic are hard to animate and not to clip. There are bunch of cosmetics in Darktkide clipping into each other, especially when you try mix-match outfit from different sets together.
>>582944634We had a whole update about sending out calls for reinforcements dude...You need to stop posting, you are not the expert you think you are
>>582946596Yeah, from the rest of the sector, which is how we have the Moebian 53rd and Skitarii from Branx Minor. So next you're gonna say another Inquisitor was just sitting around, and he's a radical who makes daemonhosts that we can totally trust.
>>582945926I mean, you’re right, but as you said, there’s already cosmetics that clip into each other, what’s one more dookie to the pile to Fatshark?
>>582946835>It's impossible for there to be anyone aroundIt's impossible for there to be any Arbites or Skitarii too you know...they just wouldn't be around...because...
Are you retards seriously arguing the logistics of playing as a daemonhost?!
>>582946835>>582947156There's already lore that talks about Grendyl and daemonhosts and him having the ability to subdue multiple of them, this isn't a debate here you guys just didn't know. It's likely Grendyl already has daemonhosts in his possession.
>>582947474Unfortunately for you, there's official lore that I did ur mom lole, no debating around that.
>>582905129I'm finally free from expeditions, bros. I have the tech remnant cosmetics. I'm free.At least until I decide to try and speedrun the levels to get the flawless execution achievement. Is there a better more efficient way to get that achievement and what operative is best for it?
>>582947446i'm afraid most ppl posting here play uprising
>>582947446We’re entertaining all sorts of stupid shit today for some reason. I assume most of us are joking but you never know here…
So what's the Cleave DMG distribution on the 'gryn mallet?In human terms - how many motherfuckers can I damage if I've got infinite cleave?
Reasons it could be SoB:>There's already a male-only class and this would balance that>They use all of the weapons in that datamine>There were fleur-de-lys on some of the broken windows and metal in the new mission>The brotherhood of rot is a full blown heretical organization with deamon backing bringing people back to life which is SoB jurisdiction, Admonition was a gang with like one sand deamon or whatever. things have escalated>it's an iconic fan favorite faction, moreso than Arbites and Hive Scum>the armor system would be unique gameplay you could customize, much like Scum's chem lab, where you could increase or decrease movement speed, load bearing, heavy weapon bracing, damage reduction, etc>the game needs melta weaponry, which is part of the SoB holy trinity with bolter and flamer. They could introduce Inferno Pistols, Meltaguns, and Multimeltas at the same time, along with the Heavy Bolter which only the SoB and Ogryn could use>a hospitaller tree would introduce an actual healer, and a Retributor tree would introduce more weapon bracing than just the couple we have and large two handed heavy weapons more than the couple we haveReasons it could not be SoB:>plenty of other people also use those datamined weapons>A SoB Palantine would be even more obnoxious than Dukane, bossing people around and holding them to standards>There's a ton of overlap with the preacher zealot tree>a male only class is much more agreeable to the average gamer than a female only class, even though most people don't care either wayPersonally I think it's pretty likely to be SoB. If it's not SoB, I could see it being an Ordo Malleus or Ordo Hereticus inquisitor. I could also see it being a Crusader.In the past, I've also talked about Cold Trader, Voidsman Breacher, a xenos mercenary (Votann, Kroot, Corsair), a preacher, medic, sniper, biomancy psyker, and many other things.Not much new compared this topic in the past:>>568876101>>568619851
>>582947446Anything but accepting the reality that it's sister of battle.
>>582947446>t. Dukane
How am I supposed to keep my toughness topped up with martyr
>>582944368>Malleusmore likeordo MALLETUS heh, hahaha
>>582948635You don't
>>582948434Ideally it would be a crusader because those guys need more of a spotlight and their presence is better justified by being fewer in number.
>>582948403anyone?
>>582947446It's fine, Psyker is already talking to shit and that's verboten, it's the same shit.
>>582948635>here's a million talents to keep your toughness up>btw they don't matter and health is still kingi hate this update
>>582944226>>582947446There's a mod for that.https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/1351Unrelated but funny as fuck to me, there's also a mod that swaps some enemies' models with those of Team Fortress 2 classes.https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/1371
>>582947616>Is there a better more efficient way to get that achievement Not as far as I know, but it's faster and more efficient the more players there are since the speed at which the extraction shuttle comes is affected by the number of players in the evac zone. Obviously having more players makes it easier as you don't have to babysit bots.You might get lucky as I did one day and find a bunch of people playing on the South Africa servers willing to party up.>and what operative is best for it?Prior to the recent patch it was Chorus Zealot since you could use it to protect bots if they were close to going down, but I don't know if that's still the case.
>>582948403>>582948965approximately 3according to related webms someone else posted in the last thread
did they nerf the flame staff
>>582947446Well, there's an upcoming event called ARCANE Ruin and this is a frame you get with it.
I'm losing my mind grinding true survivor with randoms
>>582951247Sorta, the leftclick spam macro (exploit) was fixed. Soulblaze is still vaguely as powerful as it was before. Greatsword wave spam is still more effective in havoc, but nobody plays it presumably because it's an unknown enigma. Flame staff is still underwhelming in auric, use something else. I'm not having this retarded skub decision so I'll inb4 the inevitable ASSlet screecher with YWNBATS
>>582952000>decisiondiscussionIn fact, I'm not having any discussion, it's late, that typo is my sign to go sleep, goodnight.
>>582951775You don't have any business carrying that title, boy
>>582952246Stfu I deserve itI'm carrying retards who have it every gameI'm so tired
>>582951775Pick ogryn.Pick THE club. Mk3b, Skullcrusher and Confident Strike.Pick taunt, CDR on stagger, and all the stagger you can find on the talent tree. Heavy Hitler mandatory, as is the No Hurting Friends!Go to the Archivum Sykorax. Enjoy your True Survivor title, and the ability to call pisslow niggers in here YWNBATSs. Thank me later.>https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a2df9564-50d3-4609-9d2b-7e63dc420370/lazy-2
>>582952738I'll give it a shot tomorrow and keep you posted
>>582939297The youtube compilation of all the lore bits when the story ends might actually be decent if we ever get that far.
>>582952738>is not a fucking retard>actually takes Stay Close! because it's fucking broken but nobody seems to realize itYep, checks out. I have no idea how the club actually performs nowadays, ogryns I see in h40 usually use the paul instead, but I imagine Confident Strike makes this shit piss easy to play, and I know how quickly the club can rape bosses, so it will definitely work. I'd suggest GG over rumbler tho, every ogryn I see that doesn't actually invest in the rumbler tends to majorly underperform with it. It doesn't seem to be all that great without some ranged talents.
Zealot with the fire attacks on FoTF, Out of Pocket, a bolter and an eviscerator already feels more Sororitas-larp than it ever has, still seems silly to me how much they're gonna overlap thematically
>>582953878>Stay Close! because it's fucking broken but nobody seems to realize ityup+10% additive melee damage is nightmarishly dogshit, its a nobrainerthe club is fine, you could run it with Thunderous but I find it underwhelming and unnecessary, also its easier for the guy to use>GGI rarely have to snipe in this build, and if he's going for TS he should have a dedicated vet/skit for that purpose; I like roombing into crowds of armor that I don't want to waste a 'nade on, just back up and roomble for a whilealso it's perfectly fine for occasional midrange special sniping, it disrupts gunner nests well, and kills reapers fastit gud
>>582950284Thanks brother. Hopefully I can find a band of autists wanting to get flawless execution together on expeditions and we all get it. I won't lie, malice expeditions is more nerve racking than Havoc 40. Maybe it is because getting downed is more embarrassing. Do dog pounces and getting the net by the trapper count as getting downed? I always thought they did.
>>582954507>Do dog pounces and getting the net by the trapper count as getting downed?I'm 99.9% sure they do not.
>>582954507Getting downed means your HP turns red and someone has to pick you up and you lose a wound.Getting BAGGED or DOGGED RAW doesn't count
>>582954507>>582954680They do not 100%. Also falling off an edge doesn't count as going down either (As long as you get picked back up before you die die).
>>582948801malleus already means hammer
>>582951247Perilous combustion went from 3 stacks -> 2 stacks. Still very good but slightly more difficult to ramp up the nuclear infinite damage stacks
>>582953541We're going through several plot threads slowly>searching for traitors in Archivum SycoraxDiscovering corruption in the noble houses, Sister Prine hinted to have ulterior motives and a more personal connection to the planet than she lets on>Moebian 53rd/DukaneStill searching for Admonitiion's operations in the wastes (Expeditions)>Moebian SteelTrying to hold the manufactorum to make the steel>blighted stimmsInterrupted the Dark Communion, which appeared to have failed but still managed to succeed in bringing Rodin back as a daemon possessed puppet, Wolfer falls out of favor with the Admonition, who decide to show themselves soon(tm)There's still the Mortis Trials plot threads about the Eldar ship and Brahm's great-granpa who may or may not be Grendyl.
>>582955905Prine is probably a Repentia who ran away, if anyone finds out, she's going straight into a Mortifier.
What's the strat for fighting the new boss in havoc? Just got finished getting gaped out because none of us understood the mechanics. The ringed safe zones phase is straightforward enough, but the blast with walls thing tripped us up. Seems like if you get unlucky with wall spawns you just can't make it in time? Is there a mechanic to it that I'm missing?
>>582956403You have to wait out the shield while you deal with adds and shoot down the balls he throws at you.When he lands, avoid the green highlighted parts of the floor which will rape you, and if some flesh pillars rise as the floor turns pink, you hide behind one the pillars before he braps, or he destroys your toughness.
>>582956403>Is there a mechanic to it that I'm missing?Nope; if you're not a highly mobile build then you'd better be a lucky little boy or you're gonna eat shit. Usually there's a pillar within range, even just barely, but sometimes you truly do just have to take the punch.
>>582956403Each blast spawns fewer walls, after each blast you should be on the move immediately to where they might spawn before the next blast winds up. Clockwise or anti-clockwise, it doesn't matter. I think, but I'm not sure, that each blast removes half the walls.
>>582956201More like she's used to be part of house Margrave noble. That's how the noble guy accuses her about data leak and stolen. Also, starring at Hestia when they are supposed to be first met.
>reinstall sharttide>check update>It's shit>uninstall sharttide
>>582958471You should try Darktide. It's a pretty neat game.
>>582957207I like my theory better
>>582958537No thanks, I'd rather play a game that doesn't have a 30 minute "boss fight" where the boss is immune for 90% of it and you have to play ring around the rosie with 500 AOE attacks
>>582956201I doubt it, would be cool but something that grievous would probably land her in shit with other people too besides whatever order she belongs to, whatever her offense should probably be more localized
>>582959139Good point. Shitters like you should stick to dressmaker or whatever
>>582956835>avoid the green highlighted parts of the floorFar as I can tell there's actually 2 different things to avoid during that part of the fight. One is the green circles on the floor, and the other is this purple/pink wall of energy that rotates counterclockwise.
>>582959417You're the one skipping to the loo inside the bop-it circle
>>582959552I'm the one who doesn't struggle with early 2000s tier MMO boss mechanics
Why was i declined?
>>582959923Yeah I struggled alright. Struggled to stay awake
declined declined declined
>>582960135>Why was i declined?
>>582960442This image makes me angry
>>582921345Agreeing with the other anons. Immolation grenades do just enough as a, maybe not "oh shit button", but a pressure release valve to be a fine choice.
>>582960506
>>582956403>>582959459>>582956835>Stage 1 Just to avoid the green floor. 3 of 4 sections will glow green (The "5th" where he is standing will always be green). Avoid them, does massive damage. >Stage 2Pillar and rape waves. I recommend sticking near the center after each wave so you're closer to a pillar in case your one disappears, and the other are on the other side. Also lets you deal some damage, to speed it up. >Stage 3You have the green floor again, but with the rotating walls. He is vulnerable to ranged afaik, but you can't melee him (I don't recommend shooting either unless that is your build since you just get raped by ads). In this one as well you only have 3 floors instead. The innermost one doesn't become safe any more except when all are changing. >Stage 4 Rape stage. Rotating Walls, Green Floors, and now he floats above the arena throwing his balls he usually throws at you between stages. Green sends you flying, purple debuffs you (I think? It does something to your toughness). Don't want to get hit by either. You can melee them before they hit you, but safer to shoot them. That's pretty much it, especially when walls come your team should stick together. Focus ads and wait until he stops attacking and "pants" to attack unless you want to speedrun since it's risky.
>>582961057I just told my auricshitter pubbies>don't stand in the circles>hide behind the pillarsand they immediately got it and we successfully beat the boss on my first try playing it in auric. I learned it in havoc 36 like a fucking maniac, of course.It's definitely a fucking nightmare of a fight in the 30-40 range, especially with how much it encourages you to bring ranged damage and fast attacks since it seems to be health gated to prevent thammer from ever having any fucking hopes of being useful or some faggotry like that.
>>582961057How did they make a gayer version of the sorceror from VT2
From what I can tell, the bossfight becomes 5 different things to avoid at the end.>enemy spawns>green AIDS puddles>red wall>green fartclouds>red orbsStrangely enough, the fight does feel more forgiving overall in terms of minute-to-minute survival than its ratclick counterpart, despite having so many more moving parts; I'd attribute this to the boss not actively chasing you around, giving the last player standing more room to breathe.I do feel like the boss is a tad too spongy though. I don't like the idea of straight-up nerfing him because I like the existence of a genuinely shitter-filtering fight, but the way he's currently implemented with damage invuln phases out the ass just is not fun. I feel like he should still be vulnerable to damage during what are currently just dead moments in the fight, even if that damage is at a reduced rate. That'd make the fight a bit more palatable even with a team of damagelets.
>>582961297>health gated to prevent thammer>>582961548>I do feel like the boss is a tad too spongy thoughYeah it's a health gate, or some kind of damage resistance. Can't tell if he has 1,000,000 health. Feel conflicted on this as well. If you just removed the obvious gates or dmg resistance the boss would become a joke. But at the same time it feels shit to bring a boss dps build for a boss and be useless. Pretty sure he is immune to invis backstab for some reason.
>>582960928
>>582962989
>>582961548I bet it in aurics on my first try with a pretty bad team. Very easy mission 2bh
>>582963576*beat
>>582961548>>582962428Source-code anon from last night showed that he has big resistance multipliers against DoTs(except for Soulblaze) and ranged damage, I think as more people get comfortable with the fight and learn when they can get melee damage in, it won't feel so bad. A nice FoTF charge with a revved eviscerator on his head feels pretty damn good to hit him with
>>582963576yes yes, you unga, me bunga, i know the drill
>>582964520>has big resistance multipliers against DoTs(except for Soulblaze)You've got it the wrong way around, soulblaze is reduced slightly more. See >>582880178
>>582915961>Just make a female zealot with white hair, equip a chain sword and a boltgun.Why would he need to do that when Sisters are getting added to the game regardless of how you feel lmao
>>582964551>drillNow, that's a weapon i want to see on the ogryn
>>582964678Ohhh my bad, I only recalled the "DoTs except soulblaze" line and not the other part
>>582956403Why would you even join this mission in havoc if you don't know the mechanics? Lol.Keep in mind that my experience is based on Auric onlyWhat he said >>582961057In stage 1 you rape him in meleeIn stage 2 and 3 you move to lanes with no blight and gun him down. You can peek from behind the pillars to fire at him, but to be safe it's better to hide right before he does the pink push aoe.In stage 4 you need to keep looking for him and shooting. It's actually not a single stage, it's multiple small stages, and he will teleport to a different location and start doing different shit every time you hit a breakpoint. Keep shooting until it dies, than shoot some more just in case he did not die (because he might look dead but he still has some hp left, only when he stops teleporting/moving he is dead for sure)Most of the time you need to deal damage in ranged, no way around it. If you run out of ammo you're fucked.
>>582961548>I'd attribute this to the boss not actively chasing you aroundI'd prefer him chasing me because spotting him with all the garbage flying around is not trivial
>>582965041>>Why would you even join this mission in havoc if you don't know the mechanics? Lol.NTA but I did that and I learned the boss mechanics during havoc and I did fine. The reason we wiped was because everyone else did the same shit LMAO, took us a second try with that group before we figured it out, but we got unlucky, so we needed a third try to actually beat it.
>>582948851>Ideally it would be a crusaderThere is no point in adding a crusader class. Its just Zealot with a Power Sword & Shield. Zealot already has Crusader cosmetics.>those guys need more of a spotlightThey're just bodyguards of rich priests who occasionally fight alongside sisters. they don't need more screen time than they get.
>>582965209There is no point adding a sister of battle, it's just a woman.
>>582964520>FoTF charge with a revved evisceratorBecause chain specials bypass hp gating. And shock maul special (still not worth using). And ranged technically (because with damage reduction you don't deal enough damage per hit to get capped)
>>582965276Nah Sisters are cool, arguably cooler than marines, badass, look awesome, have fun weapons and are an excuse to add halberds and heavy bolters to the game.
>>582965537Now tell me about the hotcakes
>>582965190I'm scared of this boss in havoc because I only won 2 out of 4 tries in aurics. Though 4th fight was very easy and fast because everyone knew what they were doing, and finally we had no retard to quadruple dip an ammo box so I could get my refill
>they're actually adding sistersSo glad I didn't waste my money on the other DLC classes now that the class I actually care about is arriving.
I'm fine with the SoB being the next class, but i dread the incoming porn-addicted libtard psycho trannies that will start shitting up our general again
>>582965995nothing will change in this general even when sisters are added. coopg already has rat fuckers, and most sistersfags are pretty normal by 40k factionfag standards.
>>582966085I'm talking about the retarded freaks that start tranny posting after every vermintide update and the skitarii reveal
>>582966161As I said nothing will change. Once the initial hype dies down the more normal sistersfags will be the baseline posters
Why isn't the sister of battle spammer banned? Fatshark said they wouldn't add sob to the game a long time ago. It's on the forums.
>>582966446Aspies babbling about shit no one else but them cares about isn't the kind of spam the rules are referring to, sadly.
>>582966446same reason why rat spam, and any other spam isn't banned. Spam is part of the reason /vg/ exists.I'm not a spammer though I just like sisters. Don't lump me with him.
You are not ready for this crosshair.
>>582966273Obtuse retard
>>582959923What a mistake that was…>>582961057>>582964551At least we have these…
controversial? opinion. Sisters spammer was never the problem. It was just the guy who kept insisting that Sisters and Skitarii would be impossible and it escalated from there.
>>582967392The sister spammer is incredibly retarded and allowed xirself to get baited dozens of times
>>582967392>>582967482What if it was all the same schizo samefagging?
>>582967482there's more than one sisters poster from what I've seen. Is there a difference between sisters spammer and sisters poster?
>>582967561>What if it was all the same schizo samefagging?ImpossibleBecause I'm one of the previous regular sisters posters and I haven't been in this general since Skitarii released.I only returned cus of the dauntless datamine and the sisters leak.
>>582967734I'd say there's a pretty stark difference between sisters posting (cool), and SoBtroon dilating all over the general (cringe).
>>582967586Lots of people post about sisters here and there, the sister spammer is an extra autistic /tg/fag who is too stupid to avoid obvious baitThen there is the brony sister poster who mostly gets brought up by the ratjeet because he's a massive drama tranny that is still trying to milk that whole ordeal
>>582966085>rat fuckersYeah? And?
>>582967946Agreed but at the same time I can understand SoBtroons frustrations when he see's that anon who keeps wrongly saying that Sisters are impossible for the game, or don't fit or are too strong.I just wish he would just choose to ignore him more. I mean there's no need to defend his case any longer we won. Sisters coming, time to just ignore him.
>>582968069Oh you're him pretending to be someone else. Kill yourself.
>>582968039that's disgusting
>>582968172ly erotic.
>>582968118You wish. I've been posting in in Total War, Deadlock, and Street Fighter general for the past few months.
>>582968216>uses the exact same rhetoric 1:1Yeah just fucking join the 41% you insufferable AGP troon.
I see ammo and stimms spawning in random places in Darktide.Some ability? Which operative and ability is it? Or is a mod exploit?
>>582968325Event modifier
>>582968287not ur boogie man ratjeet
If it quacks like a duck
We're probably getting a noble class, events tend to hint at which class is coming and this one is all about the nobles. We'll know for sure if there is a second event related to them before November.
>>582968069>anon who keeps wrongly saying that Sisters are impossibleHe would have stopped a long time ago if the sistertard didn't keep getting baited
>>582968608why would a noble that wasn't a orphan brought in to the ecclesiarchy like a Sister or a Ministorum person use a eviscerator? They wouldn't.
>>582968770Chain weapons are considered status symbols in the Imperium.
The reason why the eviscerator is still mid is because it will either be OP as is or reworked once the sister class arrives
>>582968757>He would have stopped a long time ago if the sistertard didn't keep getting baitedThis I agree with. He should have just ignored him from the beginning and let the results speak for itself. Just hope he decides to ignore him from now on.
>>582968418Thanks anon.
I'm dumb, in this new scoreboard when it says 'strike team' does it mean the three dudes besides you or the whole four of you?
>>582968879An eviscerator is a huge clumsy weapon thats exclusively used by members of the ecclesiarchy or space marines. Its not something a pampered dainty noble would ever want to use. >>582968886all chain weapons need a rework. The chain axe is still disappointing.
>>582948434I had subtitles turned off and have only played it once so missed lots, but in the last mission there's mention of some daemon coming back or something and Prine says >But St Messelina banished that daemon hundreds of years ago!I think that's another potential connection and the SoB Order will be dedicated to Messelina and from Messelina Gloriana and will come to put the old daemon back into the painbox.A week ago I was saying there's still plenty of classes it could be other than SoB, now I'm 95% sure it's SoB.I've also thought of a specific armour system as a feature as well and it seems cool. I like armour and the potential for tinkering with it is neat.It's implausible there'll be a Crusader, that's a troll claim. The Zealot draws inspiration from basically 'missionary' 'death cult assassin' and 'crusader', and has Crusader armour cosmetics. The Zealot IS a Crusader, the same way the Veteran is a Catachan or Death Korps of Krieg etc.>>582948635Always be killingTake the talent for up to 25% healing after Until Death procsAlways be slidingDon't worry about it>>582961297You did that shit on Havoc 30+ already???
>>582969059>Erm, well, ackshuallee it doesn't make sense because I don't get the good feel
Every DLC class has added at least 1 new face option. I hope the Sisters DLC adds at least 2 conventionally attractive female faces to the game.
>>582969156>You did that shit on Havoc 30+ already???Well yeah I beat my h39 on the new mission. It's pretty hard but not that big of a deal with a competent team. Boss rushes can be worse.
>>582969243If they were to add a noble it would be a spire hunter. Also Nobles wouldn't be caught dead fighting on the front lines. Alot of Sisters have had noble origins too. Some noble houses give away some of their daughters to the Schola to raise for the ecclesiarchy some end up as sisters.
>>582969470You're sounding desperate, it's unbecoming
>>582969576sure
How did Saber design a better sorcerer boss than Fatshart
>>582967392No, there was definitely one who was giving issues, you can tell because he’s hyper aggressive and starts claiming you’re the one being aggressive the moment he gets push back on anything.>>582969470Spyrers are probably never happening as much as I would like them to, they’re way too high effort for what they are, we’re way more likely to see them come out with whatever gear they have available than that.
>>582969018It's everyone including you.>>582969435>competent teamBuddy I am in AUSTRALIA I don't even know what that means>>582969059Haven't used chainaxe in a while. I remember the light strikedown mark felt clunky because you 'bite' into the enemy each hit and so it feels slow. And the other mark I think had light vanguards, but the attack animation means you never hit more than 2 enemies so it also felt bad.Is that the problem?
>>582970591>we’re way more likely to see them come out with whatever gear they have available than thatThis. Pretty sure Gunners are minor noble scions that were sent off to satisfy the tithe, and get better equipment as a result (hellguns). Could be we're about to uncover which nobles in the upper spires have been supporting admonition, and Rannick will onboard scions from loyalist nobility desperate to prove their innocence in the process.
>>582965041>Why would you even join this mission in havoc if you don't know the mechanics?i play as a 4 stack with my friends and the mission came up so we all decided to just give it a go for fun
>>582970849>>Buddy I am in AUSTRALIA I don't even know what that meansYes, playing on HK.
>>582913583Seething.
>thread overtaken by trannies of battle and ratjeetbickering
>>582969156>St.Messelina banished that daemonNo, she didn't quite banish the daemon, she even got assassinated btw. The daemon lurks deep under Atoma is the one Rodin mentions in Spillway.Also there's reject banter about even Exterminatus won't solve the problemhttps://youtu.be/Tp9BHOj8RUA?t=286
Anyway cool that sisters are coming but I don't wanna contribute to any autistic arguments. You will not see me again until there is a formal announcement of the class.
reject the ratjeet, mock the SoBtroon
>>582972148Interesting...>Expeditions loreuhhhh
is the weakspot damage boost on pushes good on the hammer or not?
>>582975502Absolutely not
>>582975518damn...
>>582975518idk it adds like a thousand damage to headshots against monstrosities.That sure seems good.
>>582965995>>582966638Amen to that.>>582966446Did they really? That’s pretty significant then.
>pick up a build that's 75% cc/aoe>get matched up with grenade spam ogryns>have some flame and smite psykers too because fuck you>pick up a build that's 75% specialist/elite focused>get matched up with sharpshooting vets and autoaim skits>Finally get a match where the team is well rounded>They all fucking leave within 5 minutesI hate this
>>582976029Now subtract the push time from the DPS and the cost of losing another blessing in favor of take a swing
New bug found with the Daemonhost, if aggro'd and someone dies just in anyway, it will leave
>>582975502>>582976029it increases the dmg on the difference between body and weakspot hits, not the total weakspot dmg. It's absolute trash due to typical Ogryn finesse modifiers.
>>582976881This is not new whatsoever and probably how the dhost is supposed to work
>>582975502>>582978353> It's absolute trash due to typical Ogryn finesse modifiers.Yep. It's only a 13% increase in overall damage.
>>582979080Vet woke up the DH and a Zealot got blasted off a ledge with a barrel. The DH just left after the Zealot died not even attacking the Vet
what's the consensus on the new weapons bros?
The scoreboard they added in this patch is bugged. It showed I used 0 blitzes, which obviously can't be true because I fired several grenade pickups worth of rockets. There's also no way the entire team blocked less than 20 attacks in the entire match.
>>582976881That's normal
>>582979331Huntsman great
what's hestia's hidden past that margrave was talking about? i bet she was a tertium hooker
>>582980641she's a troon
>The Trauma blessing has a hidden effect of extending the duration of stuns by up to 60%Well it took a while but I'm finally becoming radicalized against the Swedish.>>582980641Seems she is a disgraced noble of his own house. A bastard or a secret heir, or she did something bad and had to take on a new identity. I say his own house because of The Ragged King sarcastically saying (paraphrasing) "All hail the new Lady Margrave" after Brunt nearly pops him like a blood balloon. I would assuuume you can't just assassinate the lord of a noble house and become a member of it, so that to me seems pretty clear proof she is from that family. We also see her drift from "I'm just a humble scribe" to commanding and downright ruthless when dealing with TRK, which to me just seemed like the mask slipping off because fuck it, the strike team knows something is up anyway. That could also just be Brahms immediately grooming her after the secret was out though.
>>582981501*loud incorrect buzz sound*
>>582981546As much as I love Hestia (something about the way the VA delivers her 'original' Baross and phage tree mission lines just hits right; that I CAN be a good boy after all), she's always had an edge to her where 'sinners' are concerned. It's a good point though and I hadn't thought of it that way before.
>>582981501those were all ejected to the eye of terror
>>582983815talking to hestia as any personality she doesnt like, everyone who isn't an ogryn or professional vet, has her sound almost ready to strangle you. she's always been a little psycho. even when she likes the player, she can sound a little strange
I noticed there's more ASS and Havoc titles in Heresy / Damnation than in actual Auric, now I know why. (context is that russian faggot pushed a buster into my face killing me and everyone wiped afterwards)I fucking hate these people.
>>582979350Which means it's working as expected, the scoreboard mods are all unreliable as well, working with the data that each client has got.
>>582979350the blocking stat is believable when there is no shield in the team, only time most people block is indirectly when trying to revive
>>582954507Yeah you might get lucky with who you find. It's considerably faster even with just two players since one can run Chorus and the other can do something like Arbitrator with stun mines or bubble Psyker or whatever. Like the other anons said, poxhounds, trapper nets and hanging on a ledge DO NOT count as getting downed. I can confirm this 100% from personal experience. It's only when your HP is depleted and you go into the wounded bleed-out stage that you'd be considered getting downed.
>>582960928can someone explain? I don't have the DLC
>>582990916It's a shitty ability for shitty players
>>582990916Took the dog targeting priority keystone (considered worthless as you don't want your dog straying away from you if you didn't specifically order it to)Took Castigator Stance (considered the worst ability since it doesn't provide team buffs, crowd control or guaranteed revives since you don't get stun immunity by default)Took the Castigator stance nodes, especially the bottom dog damage node
>>582990916this >>582991203and skipping Canine Morale which gives the team 20% TDR and 10% toughness
If Fatshark adds Sisters of Battle, which seems likely given they have analogues for many of the other player classes from the Dark Heresy pen and paper game, how do they balance a character who would presumably be wearing power armour? How do they find an identity for her that does not overlap too much with existing classes such as Veteran or Zealot?Assuming we don't get Sisters of Battle, what classes would people like to see for the fourth DLC class? Hive Noble? Death Cult Assassin? Or something really out there like an Ork/Kroot/Eldar mercenary? I think any of the above could be cool if done right, for what it's worth.
>>582986675Maybe that's why I have a soft spot for her. My parents were quite small-r religious (as in, they had faith but without the stupid bullshit you sometimes hear about), very involved with the local (catholic) church, so I met a few non-cloistered nuns and monks. Very lovely people, quite sincere about it all but you're right about that strangeness. I suppose it's not like they have a lot of 'normal' social interactions - or maybe that oddness explains their taking vows.
>>582991741There's still that eldar ship lurking around
>>582991741>how do they balance a character who would presumably be wearing power armour? innately better stamina regen and movespeed, 2 mandatory +50 toughness nodes in talent tree>How do they find an identity for her that does not overlap too much with existing classes such as Veteran or Zealot?They can't, at most making Sororitas lean more towards ranged combat>Assuming we don't get Sisters of Battle, what classes would people like to see for the fourth DLC class? Hive Noble? Death Cult Assassin? Or something really out there like an Ork/Kroot/Eldar mercenary?Hive Nobles seem like a boring choice but you get the opportunity to give them fancy toys like digital weapons and the like as abilities, we probably won't see Spyrer suits since they're too varied and specializedDCA are just stealth ziggersKroot don't really have a reason to work for us since they can't eat Nurglite shit, the only people that want them are furfags and spearfagsOrks overlap too much with OgrynEldar Aspect Warriors are too specialized and elite, Guardians and Corsairs have too much overlap with the human classes since most basic Eldar weapons are analoguous to human ones, Farseers/Warlocks/Autarchs are commanders
>>582991741The armor is gold toughness, the offensive style will be more evenly split between ranged and melee compared to the Zealot but shorter ranged than Veteran. The leaked weapon selection includes precision weapons but the skills could generally benefit close range and spread out damage (ie flamers) than single target. Maybe they will have skills that are very defensive and counterattack based compared to Zealot's mostly keep-on-attacking skills.
>>582992839SoB will just get a piss toughness ability like a Rosarius or holy brap, whole point of piss toughness is that it's temporary and goes over your base toughness
>>582993186And the original point being made is that they are a different class and can do what they want to stand out as unique. Permanent anti-bleedthrough toughness represented by their armor is an easy guess, assuming the class isn't hive scum 2.0 rugpull.
>>582992682>how do we balance this?>innately better stamina regen and movespeed, 2 mandatory +50 toughness nodes in talent tree"well we just power creep the game d'uh" :^)>at most making Sororitas lean more towards ranged combatOgryn, veteran and hive scum already do this.We don't need sisters of battle. Just give all of its weapons to zealot and veteran, and then give the heavy weapons to ogryn.
>>582993534>We don't need sisters of battle.Yes we do.
>>582991741>Death Cult Assassin?This is just shroud zealot unironically.DCA got datamined from the gamefiles around launch, this same datamine that also found Ogryn gunlugger.Fatshark originally was going to do the "new class every quarter" but they never did that because the game had genuinely too many problems to fix first.But then later in 2023 October when we got the 1st skilltree rework, that is where all of the other classes. Like ogryn gunlugger, it was just added into the ogryn tree as a branch.
Space Marine 2's Patch 15 is live, these are the patchnotes:https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/461-patch-notes-15-0
hiv cummies are zealots but more dodging and DoTarbies are vets/zealots but tougherskittles are psykers but with more gunsSoB are just ogryns but human sized
>>582993842>skittles are psykers but with more gunsPlease explain
>The crusher special attack doesn't stack slaughtererFucking lame.What blessing do you guys run on it?
>>582993842>skittles are psykersNo, skibidis are just veteran.All the DLC classes until this point mirror 1 of the 4 originals.Arby - Ogryn, tanky crowd control classesHive Scum - Zealot, agile dodge classes that specialize in meleeSkitarii - Veteran, ranged classes, mind you skitarii is the only other class in this game that has gotten sniping ability, like veteran4th DLC will be a psyker analogue.
>>582991741>how do they balance a character who would presumably be wearing power armour?reverse matrydom, your implicit DR degrades with more wounds damaged. Heavy weapons should be gatekept by abilities with no CDR options, it also should have mobility handicaps like castigators stance.
>blitzes used: 427 - 431
>>582991741I said last thread, Ogryns are stronger than space marines in power armour already. And the player Psyker is a rare and powerful form of psyker. So balancing a power armoured human isn't much more difficult than it would be to balance a Skitarii against the Ogryn and Psyker, and easier than balancing a Veteran, Librarian, Drug Addict and Fed against Ogryn.Class identity comes from aesthetics, abilities, equipment, some rare talents, or in short: aesthetics and team role.There might be some aesthetic overlap with Zealot, but not as much as some think. SoB obviously will have some level of power armour or perhaps carapace armour as standard cosmetics. Zealots wear cloth, robes, hoods and masks. Paid cosmetics might have some overlap, but that already happens.Zealot is melee/support, but it's "support" only comes from a single ability and it's melee DPS is overshadowed by Scum and basically half the other classes. So unless SoB gets exactly Chorus, then Zealot keeps it's old role. SoB will probably be distinct by having more ranged talents or a keystone or ability (I think something like PBB where the Sister to magdumps a flamer or bolter and adds fire stacks to everything would be appropriate)I don't know why SoB would overlap with Vet other than having a similar weapon set: SoB would have a more melee and survivability talent tree.If it's not SoB: Noble in the form of Spyrer could be interesting, but it's less distinct that SisterDeath Cult Assassin is one of the 3 core branches of Zealot.No idea why people think Xenos will be added.>>582993889I guess Electrocuting everything area of effect = soulblaze
>>582993728If you care about talking about this with anyone, there is a dedicated general over on /vm/.
>Enemy Balance>Rodin Karnak , Prophet of Decay:>On Damnation and up, the minimum amount of tooth pillars have been increased from 2 -> 3 during the second phase of the boss.>>On Damnation and up, some health thresholds have been slightly adjusted to allow more melee damage to be done when he's exhausted during the first and last phase.Did you beat the boss before they made it easier?
>>582996550yes but only in auric
>>582996550Yes, with chorus zealot to as safety
Vet shout is still really good idk what people are complaining about.
>play KF1>pick Support Specialist>engage at:>a FP: perform a nade-switch combo or aim well to its head. For multiple FPs, hit stacked nades>a Scrake: perform a flinch-switch combo and aim at its head. pre-damage and jumpshot or withstand mowdown to flinch another>pick Demolition>encounter:>a Scrake: pull a precise nade-shot combo to heavy flinch. Use pipebomb pre-arm set off to blast the lot of them.>a FP or multiple FPs: dart a pipebomb on their path or go for hitting nade-M32-reload rate>pick Sharpshooter>confront:>a Scrake: pull a rifle or bolt combo, flinch or stun both valid, for multiple targets it doesn't change>a Fleshpound: flickshots and rifle switch, rifle combos are more sustainable but bolts are okay with pistol pre-damageThen I wondered, what KF3 did wrong or right on this scheme? Was it the ultimates and ZED time bonuses undermining anything else, or was it lack of imagination when you dump every trait to gun parts?Game is dead after a year btw. If you are any of those rabid fan-boys please check search term trends to gauge popularity of your beloved game in comparison to other video game titles. I'm willing to bet nothing else plummeted this hard and dropped the ball.
>>582995290There used to be a thread on /vg/, I figured it got rolled into this one as popularity waned. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction
>>582994939>I guess Electrocuting everything area of effect = soulblazeThis is like saying that zealot is psyker because the class can now apply fire onto everything now around it.Same goes for saying that ogryn is a psyker because he applies bleed onto every around him constantly.You're a retard.
Tempted to play smigger (the worst kind) for a few heresy or damnation games because of the new nodes psyker got.My heresylet days are calling to me.No, I haven't read the thread, I have not played shopclick for months now.
>>582998551>This is like saying that zealot is psyker because the class can now apply fire onto everything now around it.>Same goes for saying that ogryn is a psyker because he applies bleed onto every around him constantly.AT LAST I TRULEY SEEDROP BLOW YOURSELF UP PSYKERAND BECOME RELIGOUS PSYKER OR BIG PSYKER INSTEADJOIN US
>>582998563Don't be ashamed of>UNLIMITED POWWAAAAHHHH!!!
>>582994939>No idea why people think Xenos will be added.Eldar are following the Mourningstar and have been doing it for a while, and Morrow threw out an idea about the eldar might just want to talk.If eldar are completely irrelevant to the story, there would be no reason to add them, or even have this secrecy about them.They clearly aren't hostile because Mourningstar has gone completely unmolested for the entirety of the game and memory voice files we have.And if the eldar really wanted to destroy the Mourningstar or kill everyone on it, they could have and would have already done so.
>>582991741>Assuming we don't get Sisters of Battle, what classes would people like to see for the fourth DLC class? Hive Noble? Death Cult Assassin? Or something really out there like an Ork/Kroot/Eldar mercenary?Beastmen. Melee focused and front line combat centered. Give them some rough looking melee weapons that proc bleed. Only ranged options are auto and stub guns. Personalities should be emperor obsessed, beastmen should be treated better somewhat, only cares about hitting things and beastmen deserve it.Throw in some pestigors styled after the fellgors to fight. Maybe a beastmen packmaster we sometimes hear about that leads our sanctioned beastmen.
>>582998937>because Mourningstar has gone completely unmolested for the entirety of the gamedoes the prologue count? or was that a different ship
>>582997293not sure what to make of this post other than "KF3 bad"I tried it again recently with the gunslinger update, and it's actually quite fun despite its flaws.
>>582999079different ship, a tancred bastion
>>582999079Tancred Bastion was invaded and taken over by the Moebian 6th/admonition cult to break out Wolfer.Eldar had nothing to do with it.
>>582998937Plus given Kerlillian in VT2 is a Wood Elf, having a Kerillian like race involve would be a nice touch. They could do the traits tree stereotypes like they did the careers for Ker>One goes down typical Craftworld Eldar>Another is more for aggro, Drukkari >And the last one does The Exodites (the 40k version of Wood elves).
>>582991741There's zero lore chance to get an Ork in the warband. That would absolutely make GW angee.
>>582999371The only Eldar faction that does all flavors is the Ynnari and James Wokeslop is already trying to forget it existed.
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1361210/view/670629928317747380>no mention of reverting the quell peril "fix"
>>582999584>Ynnari and James Wokeslop is already trying to forget it existed.Actually no.11th edition tabletop trailer showed off the Ynnari both the symbol and Ynnead, the god they worship.So clearly GW isn't done with them yet.
crazy how an entire day of queuing quickplay doesn't lead to a new mission even once. at if i wait for people to join my mission, nobody ever does. might have to run this shit with solo mode mod, kind of ridiculous.
>>582999986I look forward to Gav Thrope (pic related) making them job in their own books again
Mobility or stability as the dump stat on Huntman's shotgun?
>>583000095It's definetly in part because matchmaking has been entirely fucked since arbites. (it's officially 1 year, 3 months now)And it still hasn't been fixed. Quickplay is just fucked. If one guy leaves by alt f4, it keep the cunt's spot "reserved" if they ever return (they will not)Also another reason why nobody is joining your missions, is probably because fatshark did the retarded mistake of forcing people go through the whole fucking campaign just so you can unlock the mission on the mission board.It's a dogshit design and method.If they really HAVE TO have this dumbshit mechanic, at least be account wide and not just character specific.So if I unlock it on 1 character I can do it on all others.
>>582997293>Game is dead after a year btw. If you are any of those rabid fan-boys please check search term trends to gauge popularity of your beloved game in comparison to other video game titles. I'm willing to bet nothing else plummeted this hard and dropped the ball.It's been doing better and better population wise after every major update as they continuously undo all the fucking stupid decisions they decided to die on a hill for. The comeback potential is there, I still don't think it'll happen but it's a possibility now.
>>583000402Stability
>>582999671>penances mentioned sedition difficulty which no longer existsTrue gods of uselessness bro holy fuck
>>583000513you do unlock it on all with one character though. and who is playing this at level 30 without the campaign done?
Retard here.Does weapons that don't have the finesse stat still benefit from talents that boost it?
>>583001697yes it does, you can gauge if it's worth by inspecting the weapon damage table
>>583001697finesse just refers to the crit damage and weak spot damage or something, its like a flat value across the board, and finesse stat just means that itll do more compared to the whatever the base calculation is
>>582991741Give her 25 more toughness and arbites dog steam effectMaybe also add -0.5 seconds stamina regeneration delay talent while making baseline delay 1 second, to make it both op and useless.
>>583001893>>583002027Thanks mates.It's gaming time.
>>583001381>you do unlock it on all with one character thoughNo, you do not.I Played the campaign through with my veteran, and I managed to complete Consignment Yard and Enclavum Baross, failed Spillway constantly since I'm bad at vet, so went to ogryn which is my most used character.Had to play through BOTH Consignment Yard AND Enclavum Baross before I even got to Spillway with my ogryn.THEN after that, went back to my veteran, lo and fucking BEHOLD, it was still 2/3 missions and Spillway was still locked for on my veteran on the mission board.So you are blatantly fucking wrong. Fuck you.This whole design is dogshit and it is objectively bad.
So I have to ask. Did Fat Shark decide last minute "Fuck it, Give the Huntsman to Zealot and Psyker too", or was it always like that and I didn't notice?Because I swear to God-Emperor of Mankind; it was supposed to be a Vet only weapon. (Nothing wrong with the decision. it's a really fun weapon and I love it.)
>>582999671?
>>583003394the post where it was announced said it was for every human class except arbites
>>583003545Gotcha.
>>583003528What is hard to understand? The kneeling down animation is his exhausted state and it now lasts longer.
damn recon is still boring
>>583003394You're just imaganing it. Even the 1st post about the new shotgun said it would be avaivable for all human classes except arbites.
>>583004780
>play havoc>torrent non stop
>>583005186A non stop torrent out of my ass!!
Are we still coping about sister of battle definitely being the next class?
>>583005463It'll be a sanctifier.Sisters don't have full size plasma guns, only plasma pistols.
>>582999131>quite fun despite its flaws.I tell you what, I can play Borderlands, new Call of Doodie, Overbotch or anything else that your beloved KF3 tried to become "The Poor-man's choice of the year" and I would have more fun than KF3. Why play a copycat slop of a Skinner's box when you can play the real deal by shilling up more bucks than a permanent 50% discount? What's catching or "fun" about this game compared to well selling franchises?Don't fucking get smug with me to say "oh well KF is a niche franchise heh heh..." motherfucker, there's a large corporate behind it and there's not a single good game in their name. That franchise, entirety of KF, was one of the best shots they got and they ruined it. Why? They fucked it up and yet too fucking egoistical to say it out loud.This is where this game failed hard. It tried to copy everything and succeeded at nothing. As if they gave those game to an AI model and asked it to create something in mix with well-selling franchises. I'm willing to bet it lacks human touch and it shows. All that money went to fucking horror house rather than developing the game and to PR, for them to write up buzzwords like "safe space".>>583000940>It's been doing better and better population wise after every major updateYou mean after every 50% discount that last months long?>as they continuously undo all the fucking stupid decisions they decided to die on a hill for.They still didn't retract all of those stupid decisions. And pray tell, what is the cost of that? Losing entire playerbase and a flopped title.>comeback>I still don't think it'll happenYes.>but it's a possibility now.No. Too late, too little.
>>583005760>>583005463Miraculist..
>>583005760Ah yes, instead of it being sister of battle, a class you all say is too close to zealot to be added to the game, it'll be*checks notes*a class that zealot is directly based off of...riiiiiiight...okay okay okay okay okay okay
>>583005847Miraculist comes in the same Kill team squad as Sanctifiers.https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/touklxnz/the-sanctifier-kill-team-spreads-faith-with-fire-and-shouting/
>>583005917Sisters don't get full scale plasma guns. Fatshark isn't going to give them that.Just like how arbites doesn't get he new huntsman shotgun because that doesn't exist for them on the tabletop.
tried the new level and already uninstalled. darktide is more frustrating than fun i think.
>I have to do the campaing for EACH of the classes in order to play the new map
>barrel explodes me off of ledge in middle of hectic fight, killing me instantly >have to watch my teammates bumble around the level for next several minutes3/10 game
remember when you were playing as rejects?
I need you Havoc fags to go BACK to where you came from! I'm trying to have a good time in aurics with my thunder hammer and I keep whiffing my thunder attacks on the crushers because they're DEAD ALREADY! Feels so fucking awkward afterwards, like you're still powered up, but now you gotta waste it on a poxwalker or something.
>>583006557>Tutorial mission already has us mowing through hundreds of poxers to the point it impresses an Inquisitorial agentNot really.
>>583006740You seem to be under the false impression that it's your game. It isn't. It's mine.
>>583006387This image is something else man
>Havoc Clandestium Gloriana>Absentmindedly rush forwards as I practice transonic heavy sprinting>Lieutenant spawn in the first tunnel that catches me off guard>Melee lieutenant rushes me as I turn the corner and knocks me off the ledge>Ally rushes in to save me>Melee lieutenant knocks him off too>Remaining team kites the lieutenant away>One of them runs around to save us>Ranged lieutenant appears and shoots him off the ledge also
>>582996550>Did you beat the boss before they made it easier?I learned it in havoc 36 or something and beat him in 39, does that count?
>>583007279>>Absentmindedly rush forwards as I practice transonic heavy sprintingkek, learned your lesson yet?
>>583007463No.Early Lieutenant spawns are one of the those things that occur often enough that I know they exist but not often enough that I remember them at mission start.
Technically, by how Bioshock Infinite was written (for what it was worth anyway), this is technically canon; if you stretch that far.Still it's appropriate and a cute reference. Yes he had the fanatic personality, as befitting.
>>583005787You're regurgitating a lot of shit we all know and agree upon, but it's like you're inflating and exaggerating it. Is this some kind of pasta I've missed? Let me ask you this and be honest: Have you actually personally played KF3?
>developing mods>found some weird esoteric issue with 100% replication rate that I can't seem to get rid of>disable mods one by one>it keeps happening>cave and disable my mods entirely>have to sit through a loading screen just to enter character select>have to sit through a loading screen just to enter the hub>have to navigate the hub just to get to a mission terminal>several missions have passed, because fatshark's servers are dogshit, no matter how overspec my hardware isI can't fathom playing this game without QoL mods. How do MUH CHEATS screechers tolerate having to endure a loading screen to see another loading screen so they can spend half a minute running around in some worthless hub, when you could instead just install a mod that automatically logs you in, a mod that speeds up loading, and a mod that bypasses the need for the retarded hub?>but anon, what was the bugNot bug related, surprisingly. Fatshark fucked up the shock maul with their recent attempt to curb animation cancelling.>equip shock maul (the basic mark)>sprint>mash left click>if you click fast enough, it always resets the animation to L1 while sprinting no matter what you doIt's actually so bad that it's noticeable even without mods lol. Incompetent sw*ggers.
>>583008048>>several missions have passed,Several loading screens*Yes I'm fucking mad.These Sw*dish niggers are wasting my time trying to debug something that wasn't even my fault.I also had to sit through another loading screen just to get into a game btw. While, of course, listening to some retarded NPC yap on for over a minute, even though my computer loaded the entire level within 10 seconds or so. Because I wasn't using a mod to skip it. Intolerable waste of time without mods, this piece of shit game.
Kiary if you"re here, you're the worst fucking psyker I've ever seen
>>583008048Things I do during loading screens:>stretch my neck>stretch my shoulders and wrists>refill water, or soda>look out the window>check phone or discord>talk to my friends>think about what class and build I want to play>think about the mission I just played>think about they day I just had>think about the day tomorrow>think about life and existenceThe game is intense. I don't mind the little breaks.
>>583008510I don't mind loading screens where they're necessary. I play heavily modded 'tism games that sometimes have loading times upwards of 5-10 minutes with a propensity to crash every couple hours. I just do chores during them, it's no big deal.What makes me fucking seethe is how completely unnecessary it is in darktide. Having to press a button just to log in isn't necessary, you can mod that out. Loading into the fucking main menu isn't necessary, the game could start doing that before even playing the retarded intro cutscenes. It doesn't do that. All of this requires retarded amounts of server validation that fatshark servers can't seem to handle because they suck. The bottleneck isn't my PC. Then you have to load into the hub, which is another handshake, and another unnecessary load time, because the game could, but DOESN'T, load the hub into RAM before you even enter it. Never mind the server handshake bottleneck, once again. The entire hub is unnecessary, because you could just be able to play missions from a UI instead of having to physically navigate your character past all the paypiggies that are no doubt the reason this hub exists, to shove those in your face and make you buy $$$. And to add insult to injury? The loading screen upon entering a mission is also purely fictional, fabricated, fake. That exposition dump takes up more time than my computer takes to load the assets.It's all smoke and mirrors for fucking sub-human consoleniggers, and actual sapient PC users have to suffer, or use mods to unfuck their dogshit game.
>heavy bolter for ogryn never ever>melta for vet never ever
>>583008950if ogryn get HB why would anyone use a stubber?
>>583008950>it'll really will just be a zealot 2.0Grim
>>583008913are you new to the game? because you're not telling us anything we didn't know almost 4 years ago...unless you're just venting frustration, in which case i'm sorry you feel that way.
>>583009282>are you new to the game?Shit it feels that way sometimes, because I've been playing with QoL mods for something like two thousand hours, and get fucking whiplash every time I turn them off to try and diagnose a problem.>unless you're just venting frustrationYes, but also you don't hate Sw*den enough.
>this makes /copeg/gers seethe and despair
>>583008950Cool zealot premium cosmetic.
>>583009409dont mind it much at all really, hiv cum caused more despair on reveal
>>583007982Let me reverse that shit. Have you played KF1 or KF2? I tried KF3 very little at the beta after thousands of hours of KF1. Then my impression didn't improve from the videos I have watched. No, I don't need to buy, neither play a slop box for thousands of hours to form a "valid opinion". That's just an excuse for shills to dismiss your arguments.A few minutes told me that it wasn't for me. They pulled a complete turn from the fan base to cater to new ones and it didn't stick.>but it's like you're inflating and exaggerating it.I'm just a little jaded. Reading strawman arguments over Steam forums makes me pissed off so much it's unreal. Reading shills there make me lose it but if I reply I know moderation will ban me for some excuse or another. I am not going to risk it. I rather talk my mind here and see if I can annoy shills back. You're welcome.
>>582919431A genestealer
>>582976881I got thrown into one by a mutant, it aggro'd and then just vanished. Nobody died and it spawned again in the next area.
>>583009591Fair enough. I get mad too sometimes. I just laid into this one retard on fatshark's forums the other day for defending stupid fatshark shit. I might be banned, dunno. Bought KF1 on release back in 2009. We all agree it's a classic.KF2 is fun, but already here they started moving away from what the original fans enjoyed. It was no longer horror coop with comedic characters. Just pure action in Halloween surroundings. KF3 is went even more in the action direction. And it does it reasonably well. The main problem with Killing Floor 3 is that they called it Killing Floor 3. If they just gave it a new name I think people would give it a shot and more people would enjoy it. They wouldn't feel like something they cared about was defiled. I'm so unc at this point, having seen so many franchises get molested over the years (starting with Command & Conquer) that I no longer care. I see every new installment as a brand new game and take it for what it is. It's the only way I can survive mentally.
>>582948434>A SoB Palantine would be even more obnoxious than Dukane, bossing people around and holding them to standardsSoB confirmed
>Hey sah! Join my gang, the Pickaxe punks!>Sah! You'd be smart to join my gang the Sledgehamma scou- ska- scoun- the Sladgehamma bad guys!Well..?
>>583011939Sorry, dear brute, Dukane asked me to throw 6 gorillion force greatsword beams into heretics in the deep hive again...
>>583006298It's superfluous for Arbites to get the the temu version of his exclusive shotgun anyway.
>>583012206Sah joined the rumbler retards gang...
>Get netted from behind a crusher>Crusher turns around and is winding up an overhead>See life flash before my eyes>Ogryn named BODYGUARD charges in and saves meAnd THAT'S why you keep an Ogryn around!
Honestly I dig the helmet. Makes me look like someone out of Battle of the Bulge.
>>583009259Ogryn HB will be hilariously inaccurate full auto and have terrible ammo economy while being weaker than the Spearhead Boltgun
>>583008950
>>583014494Genestealer cultist soon.Born to praise The (Four-Armed) EmperorDauntless as a hell
>>583014494this is the face that will haunt /copeg/'s dreams...it'll be everywhere in game, there will be no escaping it...
People on reddit are not happy about the SoB leaks...
>>583014912Would the genestealer matriarch let me grope her?
>>583014912are there genestealer ogryns?
gm copeg. coming back from a long break, anything obvious i'm missing here? Is Empyric Resolve a trap? Running lightning staff and dueling sword with crit
>>583016265They have Aberrants
>>583016265There are those big ones with 3 arms and the sledgehammers. I dunno if they were ogryns or just heavily mutated though and I forgot their names.
>>583008950Definitely genestealers.>leather bootsit's going to be a fucking novitiate or something just because fatshark can't take a win handed to them on a silver platter, isn't it
>>583017035Consider that fartshart will have no more emergency DLCs to heavily boost revenue and player numbers if they blow both popular, wanted classes (Skitarius, Sororitas) consecutively>but le xenosNobody came into shopclick to play as xenos, they're more likely to turn it into marineslop before EoS
>>583017358Ah yeah they need to hold sister of battle for when the game is on its last legsoh wait that's now
>>583017035Its going to be Celestian Insidiants. After the Hive Scum fiasco they quickly backpedaled into cool and powerful classes that they know people will want. People were hoping for Skitarii, but Skitarii Alpha Primus were way more important than anyone was expecting.They've already teased that Rannick is looking for specialists to deal with the introduction of chaos sorcerers and that there is a Sister of Battle chapter operating within the region as well. They're almost certainly going to be Celestian Insidiants as the dedicated witch hunters for the Sisters of Battle.
>>583017035>it's going to be a fucking novitiate or somethingHonestly, that just makes this being just a zealot cosmetic even more likely.Lmao
>>583017817Are you retarded?
>>583014494>that adam's appleTroon
Will darktide stop at 8 classes, or will they keep the dlc train rolling until it looks like a total warhammer list?
>no heels, boots look leather and not like power armor>new face looks vaguely basketball american and has an extremely noticeably crooked noseFatshark hates money. They will go out of their way to intentionally sabotage their product to sate some ideological compulsion. They're about to take the easiest slam dunk they could possibly deliver and knowingly fumble the fuck out of it with a smile on their face.
>>583016318>anything obvious i'm missing here?>lightning staff Yeah the leftclick bonus damage node toward the left.
>>583018038They've said they'll keep making classes until they can't anymore.
>>583008950>no heels>fucking leather bootsThis doesn't even look like power armor and just looks like generic carapace armor that arbites are wearing.
>>583009563It caused that poster the most of it ironically>>583007960Kek that’s pretty funny
What is the max max health on curios?
>>58301953221% base, 5% from a perk (don't use the health perk it's shit).The max rating for any curio is 430.
>>58301953221%. And iirc the curio only counts as actual 21% if it's above 410 rating.I know they supposedly "fixed" this issue, but it was specifically with +3 stamina curios, which would previously if you got a 400 rating curio with +3 stamina, it'd show you +3 stamina because it rounds up despite being like 2.6 stamina in reality. So the problem rises from that I'm not sure if they fixed this with the other curios. Ie. is a 21% health 400 rating curio actually 21% health or is just 20.5% or some shit rounded up.>why is it like this?Swigger code. I don't get it either.
>>583016612>>583016540theyre not ogryns, just big
>>583020004The models themselves are undersized actually. There's art pieces of aberrants and they are gigantic, like actually ogryn sizes.GW just fucked it up for some reason.
why is every veteran playing huntman's shotgunshit sux
>>583021189>why is everyone playing with the shiny new thing?Gee anon, i dunno.
>>583021189Yeah, how dare they have fun
>>583020158yeah, but theyre not ogryn, theyre just a really fucked up gen1 and 2 hybrids
>>582948434I want my wife Kibby to rape me until I cry
>Final cutscene mentions brotherhood of blight New faction confirmed...?
>>583018515Eldar Corsair soon (within the next two years).
>>583022563>An elder girl will never crush your nuts in her hand while call you Mon-KeighWhy even live
>>583022563>Monkey, I'm running low on ammo for my eldar gun>Here's some human ammo, xenocunt!How will they make this work, aside from the Todd Howard method?
>>583021189It's fun. You should try that.
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1wuykb3/everything_ive_found_regarding_the_new_dlc_class/
So why were people shitting on it again? Because you can't take it to Havoc 40? Or some other reason? I think it's a solid weapon that's fun. Sounds great, feels good. Ammo Economy and reload is the only criticism I genuinly have, but as long as I find ammo and switch to my melee to save ammo, I'm more or less fine per mission. Can burn hordes, and pump shot specials. Obviously I can't crack a Crusher, but that's what the Kraks are for.>>583022810I hope one of the voice sets is just being called Mon-Keigh alot. or at least it should be.
>>583014494AYAYAYAY LA CREATURA!
>>583022949All ranged weapons are heat based, the class's focus is on weapon swapping
>>583023438>So why were people shitting on it again?idiots and the local havoc 40 schizo (lmao)>>583022972TOTAL SISTER SWEEEEEEEP
>>583023556Do the reverse, make them recharge based.
>>583022949The same way zealot feeds a flamethrower and veteran a plasma gun with regular ammo cans.The same way skitarii use conventional ammo dumps to maintain a supply of notably non-conventional phosphor bullets, galvanic rounds and specialized arc rifle batteries.Fatshaaaeeerrrk has already broken this particular seal long ago.
why is the voice acting in this kusoge so bad
>>583023438Mostly because it kinda sucks on zealot since it doesn't hit useful breakpoints, and requires that you take both the bonus damage to enemies not targeting you, and/or IJ, to deal acceptable damage with. And that is WITH weird perks and blessings, and the blessings are disappointing.Literally no reason to ever use it on psyker.On veteran, it is a massive downgrade from the slug shotgun, which is the best sniper in the entire game, and still generally outclassed by the more "power fantasy" weapons and lasguns (depending on the build), whether in raw damage output, or ammo efficiency.>TLDRIt's alright in auric, but the blessings imply they want you shooting hordes with it, which is retarded as fuck. It snipes mediocre, is worse at it than the other shotguns, and doesn't excel on any class.Yes, it's basically completely non-viable in higher havocs.
>>583022972couldn't you have waited with posting this until after SoBtroon killed themselves
>>583024334people were posting datamines from the post so why not just link the post itself
>>583022972Just add space muhreens at this point, fuck this faggot company
>>583024780i know, i was just hoping we could still get SoBtroon to fuck off somehow
>>583008950told you guys it would be novitiate, they are not ever giving you power armor it is too much dev work
>>583021503Genestealers can infect ogryns too, not just humans.
>>583025104He's too estrogenic to fuck off.
>>583025207fucking off through suicide also counts
>>583023438Not enough ammo
>>583025154It is possible, but my idea from a month ago was that you'd start off wearing basically carapace armour, but then your later cosmetics are full power armour.All the classes have increasingly armoured cosmetics you unlock.Also if there's any justice there'll be a Repentant cosmetic.
/coopg/ is one personyou are mei am you
I can't run this on high texture quality. Way too much stutters. It's the only game I have an issue like this
>>582942081It’s more for the benefit of the rest of the thread so no one else goes around spouting dishonest bullshit like that. Anyone familiar with the material knows they can and have survived way worse than that anyway.
>>583025432That's how it works for the basic classes, not for the DLC ones.
>>583025440Kino...
>>583022972>darktide is becoming power fantasy slop that gets dumbed down for everyoneWelp, time to get Havoc 60 since they are gonna be nerfing Havoc 40 for sure.
>>583025440>being in meGet out of me faggot
>>583025432all classes have one actual armor set they can unlock to get out of their literal rags, they are not making power armor it is too complicated to model and would need new animation work
>>583025154>power armor it is too much dev workIt's not though?It'd just be cosmetic. They wouldn't give it new animations.They even created whole new cybernetics arms and legs for skitarii and that shit still just uses the same old animations as human classes.There is literally no point in making different animations because it wouldn't look different with the current ones.
>>583025937keep saying theres no reason we can't have it while they continue to not make itif you aren't getting power armor on the sister of battle then you are not getting power armor ever
>get stuck in wall after beast of nurgle dies>have to close the game since there's no way to kill myself>"prohibited from joining havoc until the current one ends"well fuck you too darktride
>>583025595Scum works that way (Scum is a perfectly valid and OP DLC class... )>>583025804>>583025154>they are not ever giving you power armor it is too much dev work>power armor it is too complicated to model and would need new animation workIt-it's him! Or zer or whatever!
How much are we betting that fatshark "leaks" this stuff to avoid another HIVcum curveball.
>>583024182I should have been specific and meant "broadly" about the shotgun as a whole. Not the Pump action in havocs or aurics. Me, I am speaking from a casual perspective playing heresy/damnation, it's a fun gun for off-meta. I'm not counting on it being meta, but I don't like seeing people shit on a fun weapon.
>>583025176and that would be a genestealer ogryn, not an aberrant
What do we think the thumbs up/down rating for missions is recording?Is it indicating we liked the map and how the game director went?Or is it indicating the teammates we had were faggots or nice?
>>583026829They didn't do it for skitarii
>>583026829why would they need too? scum was a curve ball because nobody expected a necromunda based class when better more popular class themes (like ad mech) were still unexplored. sororitas is a popular and requested class theme so it wouldn't be a curve ball like scum was
>>583025154>>583017035Novitiate boots don't go that high.My cope is they just don't want to adjust the models for heels.
>>583027279That's a premium cosmetic though. The default might look like that model there, but the premium would obviously be a bit jazzed up.
>>583026128>while they continue to not make itBecause they are lazy, or this isn't sisters of battle at all anyway.>you aren't getting power armor everHonestly fine. We don't need more power fantasy slop.
>>583027176Everyone wanted skitarii>>583027268People are expecting a full fledged sister of battle and they don't want them to be surprised when they get a leather armored novitiate.
>>583027708Guess the troon's not gonna get his heavy weapon and power armor wish list after all
>>583014912>>583017035… As enemies anyway >>583020004>>583021503>>583016265The Genestealer kiss can infect even up to other aliens like Tau and Orks, I’m not sure if they have models but logically there’s no reason there aren’t Ogryn ones
>>583027268>scum was a curve ball because nobody expected a necromunda based classExcept everyone who had a brain?I predicted that Scum would be the next DLC class after arbites. And I said that in summer of 2025.Hive scum/hive ganger was a very common class talked about being added. There was like 2 hive ganger speculation/fan made concepts for abilities and keystones, etc.
>>583027279DLC classes go through like 2-3 tier of armor levels. Don't listen to some certain resident schizo shitpost and samefagging
>>583027041What is more likely to create an ogryn sized mutant aberration?A human infected by a genestealer? Or, an ogryn infected by a genesteaker?
I just want new *UNIQUE* space cop weapons man
name my band
>>583028158>DLC classes go through like 2-3 tier of armor levelsArby wears the same carapace armor from the start to the begining. Only thing that changes is the accessory stuff.Skitarii is also has armor but you get your more obvious armor very easily from few penances.Hive Scum is the only one that goes through "tiers of armor really.
>>583022972>no relic bladethat sucks it's my favorite weapon but i wont ever play zealot again once this comes out
>>583028507the stinky retards
>>583028507gink and the stinks
>>583028457Sorry, GW said no.
What's the difference between strength and power?
>>583028324irrelevant, aberrants are a specific classification of a really fucked up gen1 and 2 hybrids
>>583026845>I am speaking from a casual perspectiveI play probably equal amounts of h40 and auric games and enjoy both for their own merits.My opinion is that the huntsman's shotgun is fun. The sound is good, the animations are good, it's useful for what it is even if the devs are clearly retarded and gave the thing another case of "1 completely optimal blessing you'd be retarded to skip (Full Bore), and a bunch of random garbage that makes no sense on such a weapon".It gets the job done for what it is, it just doesn't fit the role the devs think it does.My main hangup with it is just that it's disappointingly mediocre and basically a direct downgrade from the slug shotgun, in practice. Hell, even the spreadshot combat shotgun is weirdly viable in h40, as difficult to believe as that sounds. I don't see the huntsman being viable, but maybe some weirdo veteran will prove me wrong, time will tell.I don't think it's shit or anything, just outclassed right out the gate, because it doesn't hit good breakpoints in auric unless you're vet, and on vet other guns are just plain better. The fact that it has a useless flashlight special is what kills it for me.It definitely feels a LOT better to use than the combat shotguns, but feel and actual performance are often decoupled in this game unfortunately. See: flame staff offering truly dogshit feedback for how hard it rapes everything in scenarios of significant enemy density. Flamer to a lesser extent after all the power creep; less powerful than it used to be, but still feels like shit to use.Huntsman is fine, probably even good up to heresy, the lack of flak damage kinda hurts in damnation/auric, and the inability to one-tap snipers unless you're vet or using a sub-par build in zealot is just disappointing.
>>583027708> expecting a full fledged sister of battlethat'd be a fair wager, didn't work since fatshark underestimated jus how retarded their fanbase is
>>583028990Strength affects Damage, stagger, and cleave. I dunno about power.
>>583022103Sounds like another extension of Adminition.>>583024061It’s not, some characters are whatever but most are good.
all im hearing from this sob talk is that zealot is trash both thematically and mechanically
>>583028153I remember all the people going>arbites? No, too much overlap with vet, it'll never happen plus their power is too high >hive ganger? No, vet is basically already a ganger visually, and how would it even play differently? yet here we are, people are saying the exact same shit again. Gamers have an actual severe learning disability when it comes to this weird obsession with "there's overlap so it'll never happen"
>>583029116>it just doesn't fit the role the devs think it does.They literally said they are adding arbites shotty but worse.It is worse in every aspect, so its true
>>583029210Zealot remains a dominant force in h40 because the nerfs are a fucking nothingburger, and adding +20% ranged resistance feels truly retardedly tanky, plus the unkillable mechanic on top.And it's still correct that zealot is trash mechanically, because the actual intended class design simply doesn't work. In auric it doesn't keep up with everyone gunning shit down before you get a chance to swing your weapon, and in havoc zealot just doesn't belong in the damage role because every other class is better at that.
Give sisters the WP bubble.
>>583022103Yearly reminder that they STILL haven't finished dreg faction
>>583029072And those can form from ogryns.
>>583029460What do we still need aside from dreg maulers?
>>582948434There’s little chance any kind of inquisitor is happening with the numbers they’d need to show up in to make any kind of difference. Xenos are definitely still off the list with their stated mission and vision still being valid thus far. The rest all range from silly to ‘reasonable’, I.e. it’s possible I guess with Fatshark in the picture. >>582991741That’s clearly not too much of a concern given how Hive Scum exists, as long as there’s a few things you could argue to be ‘unique’ to it they seem willing to make it a class. Xenos classes definitely aren’t happening at this point for the stated reason above among others, though maybe in the future the story will take us there. >>582994939>And the player Psyker is a rare and powerful form of psyker.They’re not. They’re like, average at best. Psykers capable of that stuff are fairly common. And no, a Spyrer properly done would arguably be the most distinct class yet. Not that it’s ever happening at this point for that fact alone.>>582991982>>582998937This would be an easy way to inject them into the game and maybe it will be used to just do that someday but there’s no reason they just can’t be a plot point or NPCs too, the groundwork needs to be laid out first, but even when it is, that still won’t make it a guarantee or anything, to say nothing of the fact they’re supposed to be like 7 feet tall, all move gracefully, etc. >>583022949They can just chalk that up to gameplay abstraction if they *really* wanted it, it’s not a big deal, it’s everything else stopping it.
>>583029557okay, and? i already told you thats irrelevant, theres an equal chance between human hybrid and ogryn hybrid forming an aberrant
>>583029272I'll admit I was someone scratching his head over how hive scum would work. In my defence, I didnt even think about them REALLY leaning into the 'twitch dps' role, and CERTAINLY not coming up with a whole new mechanic for drugs. So i have faith (heh) that they'll come up with something interesting that won't just be Zealot+, I just don't quite have the imagination to consider what.
>>583029272>Gamers have an actual severe learning disability when it comes to this weird obsession with "there's overlap so it'll never happen"True, however how I view it THERE IS significant overlap between zealot and sisters, and that is WHY sisters shouldn't happen.All this shit will do is make zealot entirely irrelevant for the game. That's a great idea to do RIGHT AFTER you made new skilltree for them (obvious sarcasm), to try end help them to become at least relevant.All sisters will do is just power creep the fucking game and then take zealots role, especially if the speculation about sisters getting gold toughness shit as an ability or whatever is true.Only thing zealot will even have after the DLC is just relic blade and nothing else going for it.
>>583029904Sisters will have the prayer lab as a second talent tree. You can mix and match prayers for different aoe buffs.
>>583029904>I just don't quite have the imagination to consider what.The reality is that game designers at fatshark are being paid to think about this shit for hours every day. They can come up with SOMETHING and anons going >Oh?? So name a perfect concept right now or it's impossibleare bad faith retards
>>583029592all enemy Ogryns in game are scab affiliateddreg trapper and sniper
The new update killed my build and I do t know what I should invest in. I used to juggle peril/quell & melee with a blaze force greatsword to quell, & tossing out staff shots or assail to build peril, with venting procing when I hit critical peril. I used to be able to almost always go with built peril with ranged shots>vent>melee>build perilBut now my timing is all of & I keep hitting critical peril before vent is off cooldown. Anyone know what im doing wrong or how i can fix?
>>583029423>In auric it doesn't keep up with everyone gunning shit down before you get a chance to swing your weapon, and in havoc zealot just doesn't belong in the damage role because every other class is better at that.Unironically they need to buff zealots melee damage retardedly high to make that even possible.They literally need to give zealot Rampage levels of power to be able to have a relevant damage role in havoc. I remember when zealot was THE melee blender in the game. And the game was unironically better and more fun when it was like that.It shows that the devs have completely lost the plot as to what to do with some classes.Ogryn is a good example too, they half the time they just keep nerfing melee ogryn and then buffing ranged ogryn. Which over time has just hurt the class identity more than anything.I've even stopped using taunt in havoc because the CDR nerfs really made that ability worse and charge is just better because it has shorter cool down but you also get up to 50% STRENGTH from just charging into hordes.
>>583030454>Anyone know what im doing wrong or how i can fix?This talent should fix all of your problems.
>>583029673It hurts to type as a committed fan, but I don't want Eldar in DT, partly on the grounds of verisimilitude and partly for splitting the story's focus. The 'grunt' element of DT appeals, and the elves would distract in a way they wouldn't in Sigmar or Old World.However, I would love an Elftide; we've seen enough of chaos through human eyes, let's see it through their eyes for once. Go full on mystic hippie bullshit about it all too.
>>583029796It's not irrelevant.Big muscular hulk, is gonna have a higher chance of creating a big muscular hulk mutant than a puny human.It's very simple to understand.
>>583030436do those have concept art? even the thing that looks like a dreg mauler is labeled as a rager
>>582991741the SoB "issues" are very solvable: it's not a poster girl infantry unit. not all sisters wear power armor, sister hospitallers specifically wear carapace armor like the arbites. and the sororitas roster has more roles in it then generic infantry, including some roles that don't have a miniature attached to it, so just pick one of those to avoid overlap. and even then fatshark has proven with skitarii that they have enough sway with GW to just write new lore to make a class work.i seriously do not understand why ppl are struggling so hard with making SoB work. neither the denial of the anti crowd, nor the mental gymnastics of the pro crowd.
>>583030191I cant wait for Ratling class as tiny fucks that "hide"/loose aggro and snipe/stab while running around.Theres not too many niches to fill yet, weve got most archetypes now.GuardsmanSister of Battle/CrusaderArbiterSkitariiPsykerHiverOgrynTheres only Ratling, & maybe Antipsyker or a sort of Rogue Trader type swashbuckler.
>>583030706>Unironically they need to buff zealots melee damage retardedly high to make that even possible.I'm still saying that they should just fucking bake Martyrdom's damage boosting effect into the class' base kit (since fatshark obviously assumes zealot to always be in max martyrdom at all times, as if other keystones don't even exist), and probably even give zealot either greater base move speed, or faster stamina recovery, without having to fucking grief yourself and your team by picking a bad aura and going out of your way to pick up the 10% ms instead of a good skill. Also buff the range on FotF significantly, and give a bigger speed buff to stealth.Zealot takes too long to get to the target with any of the heavy weapons that fulfill the class fantasy, and when it gets there, somehow doesn't even deal enough damage either. Unironically, when I play with friends who are good at ranged classes, they tend to kill everything that isn't in front of me, before I get to the enemy, and then start shooting the thing in front of me too, which then dies before my swing can even connect.The only way to make zealot feel good in its current state is to be a stereotypical knife zigger.>>583030706>up to 50% STRENGTHThis is another design problem. Zealot has a bunch of random damage nodes, but virtually no access to strength. Most of zealot's damage retardedly stacks additively, which puts all of the multiplicative pressure on your weapon and blessings. It's just too difficult to scale zealot with what we have right now. Unfortunately these retards don't even know their own game mechanics. Have you seen the internal naming conventions? A solid handful of strength talents are named "damage", and strength/power is used interchangeably in the codenames, to the point where they evidently get confused.
>>583030843yes it is irrelevant, thats just an ogryn hybrid; if a human hybrid aberrant is a big, fucked up, hybrid, then it stands to reason than an ogryn hybrid aberrant is going to be an even bigger, fucked up, hybrid
>>583031232It's not irrelevant.Aberrants are big muscular mutants, ogryns are big muscular abhumans.Genestealer infected ogryns make aberrants, it's very simple.
Prestige classes that extends the talent tree will save the base classes>Stormtrooper>Confessor>Primaris Psyker>BONE'ead
>>583030752I already have that. Its kinda the lynchpin of the build outside of vent
>>583031410no, they would just go through the standard genestealer cycle, like everyone else
>>583031553Then, left keystone, all the way into In Fire Reborn, with both Perilous Combustion + Wildfire should net you better stack generation to spam more Shrieks with. Also Creeping Flames on Shriek for obvious reasons. Yes, even if you're using a non-flame-staff.Battle Meditation at the top can also help.Alternatively you can just take the Gaze pill and never worry about peril ever again.
I really wish Psyker had a power to just ghost through crowds, let me just turn immaterial, maybe do some minor damage/soulblaze to everything you touch while ghosting & have you take no damage/greatly reduced damage while its up & a boost to movement speed
>>583031808Thanks ill take a look into it. I just really liking juggling peril/quell to boost my toughness & damage & stacking as much soulblaze as I can in melee, so I dont want to ignore it completely
next class is ratling and there's obvious proof everywhere on the new map
>>583030929Miguel Iglesias done most of the concept art, for Ogryn he drawn variants that could be used for either faction.
>/copesneed/ finally diesbien
>>583030964>>583017541Skitarii are just regular Skitarii though, the alpha primus thing doesn’t seem to actually affect anything
>>583032148Fatshark is NOT going to add anything with a weird skeleton after suffering through Ogryn
>>583032148I agree with you, but what does nurgles butthole have to do with it?
>>583031212>>583030706>>583029423i see it aint the time to be coming back to this game then, i love the melee but zealot sucks and i aint dropping money on hive scum
>>583032628It's perfectly serviceable in the lower difficulties and only feels bad if you get lucky enough to get matched with an actually competent player. If (when?) all 3 of your retards die, zealot is basically at its peak. The class performs exceptionally well when completely in the thick of it, surrounded, and not being kill stolen, and being stupidly tanky is a huge boon here too.Zealot isn't in a terrible spot, just definitely on the weaker side outside of being a borderline broken support in h40.
>>583030964Alpha Primus Skitarii existed in lore long before Fatshark ever made Darktide.
I hate that darktide does all its story telling in mission. How the hell am I supposed to follow Hestia's plot when im focused on the fight?
>>583033393Try sedition :^)
>>583031862There’s a lot of cool and fun psyker abilities we don’t have in the game yet
Seeing very few reasons to ever use any ranged wep but the thugshot on melee ogryn rn. It's like a vt2 handgun cranked up to 11. Hammer is also neat but then again hammers are always neat in tide games
>>583030792Agreed, they would really gel well here, an Elftide of sorts would be great, the 3 different factions and their subgroups would be so interesting to see done in a Tide game, the only problem being they’re arguably the most high effort to portray, we’d need a serious team who knows what they’re doing
So what happens if you take the unsafe path? I wanna try but I'm scared of embarrassing myself by going alone and dying
>>583032862eh, fair enough. my fondest moments were indeed when we got cornered and i got to mow down a whole horde with only my relic blade and fotf, so i guess ill download it again and checkout the talent reworks. thanks!
>>582971053That would make sense. It’s honestly super satisfying to imagine Rannick assuming his position in full and flexing his power and humbling the nobles who would normally believe they’re above it all but now find themselves potentially on the chopping block.
>>583034121Yeah the thugshot is finally something that you can whip out quickly and take out a sniper with across the map. Been waiting for a good sidearm for the melee build.
>>583034469>mow down a whole horde with only my relic blade and fotfYeah you can still do that just fine. RB only received minor nerfs, you'll probably not even notice them in practice unless you go look up what those nerfs even were. The notable one is less damage against unyielding (monsters), but that just means you slap +25% unyielding on it if it bothers you, or pull out your gun to solve those. Everything else about your playstyle was actually buffed, mostly in minor ways, but those tend to compound. Zealot is definitely even more stupidly tanky than it ever was before, and I actually think they went too far this time. I don't even feel like I'm taking damage in h40, it's insane.
>>583033569They should just get rid of brain buster. Idk why its even there, takes forever to wind up, your teammates will shoot them down faster than you can build charge & it doesnt do enough damage against big foes to justify it either
>>583034465I think the game just kills you if the party goes one way and you go another. Pretty sure that killed a guy I was playing with last night as we went down one hole and he had fucked off elsewhere then insta died
>>583033538Ew
>>583034465>>583034940The unsafe path is filled with pox gas, with a few occasional safe rooms but you will take corruption damage running between them.
>>583034940Getting lost/loosing coherency summons mutants/trappers/dogs meant to kill you so youll pop up near your teammates but captured. I tend to skirt being too far away half the time becayse I like to explore, but theres always an arbiter in the party running ahead full tilt & never doing side missions stuff ever
>>583034568>finally something that you can whip out quickly and take out a sniper with across the mapripper v has been in the game since 2022
>>583035348Rippers feel like ass to me. Sorry anon, not gonna use 'em.
>>583034568The kickback could always do this, and can still do this. You just need some mild damage investment and slightly weird perk/blessing choices.With No Hurting Friends! at full stacks (which it always is), this one-taps snipers from hipfire. If for some reason it doesn't on your build, sprint first and it will. No need to aim or worry about your spread landing the shot wide with the useless thugshaker.Works up to auric. I don't think it works in havoc.
Everything works in Auric.
>>583035743This was about one-tapping snipers you fucking nigger
>>583034465Shitloads of really, really bad tox gas. Go full purple (bar 1 hp) within seconds. It was bad enough as a group. Emperor have mercy if you were on your own.
>>583035743Not your teammates
>>583033209existing in warhammer lore isn't as impressive as you seem to think it is.
>>583036179That's beside the point, Fatshark didn't come up with it.
Well gentlemen, it was nice knowing you all. Except for (You). You know who you are.
>>583035890I'm in awe of the shit people can manage. Arbites that completely melt in seconds, Ogryns that taunt and instantly die, Psykers that bring bubble and inferno yet I never see a bubble or enemies burning, Hive Scum that run around with Autogun shooting everything and dying, and Zealots and Veterans that only exist to spend 20 minutes exploring while you're waiting in an elevator.
>>583036615Could have been Roy Batty's tears in rain monologue
>>583036248and that's not relevant to my point. even if fatshark is limited to things that "already exist" in warhammer lore, you know how many things in warhammer already exist as nothing more then an off-handed mention in 3 or 4 books that amounts to nothing more then "it exists" so the lore autists can jizz their pants over the refrence?
>>583030454Do you have scryer's?
>>583036934Yeah, I don't care about whatever point it is you're trying to make, I'm just correcting the anon who thinks fatshark made up alpha primus wholecloth
>>583036934>know how many things in warhammer already exist as nothing more then an off-handed mention in 3 or 4 books that amounts to nothing more then "it exists" so the lore autists can jizz their pants over the refrence?No. How many?
>>583037013I think so, im away from game right now
>>583034895Seriously though, this is gonna be me ranting, Why even have it as it is? If it popped off in a second or so itd be infinitely more useful, its this long one hit attack that takes FOREVER. Combat is supposed to be fast, its easy to accidently target the wrong enemy if theyre clustered. Meanwhile young have lightning that can stagger stun an entire horde and heat seeking mind darts that can clear rooms. Brain burst if fucking retarded
>>583034895I remember leveling psyker with friends and just feeling worthless because the cast time for brain burst was longer than a friend just headshotting the enemy with the added problem of it highlighting them so he would end up shooting the marked enemy out of habit.
>>583037183fucked if i know, i'm no lore autist. i know only a handfull of the more well known ones
>>583034895You can speed it up by pressing F, anon. And I think the free ones you get with the middle keystones are also faster. I use it to pick off snipers across the map and bombers running around a corner. Also on some builds it's my better option for monster damage.
>>583037085if you really want to correct strangers on the internet on shit they didn't say, may i recommend reddit or suicide
>>583038604>fatshark has proven with skitarii that they have enough sway with GW to just write new lore to make a class workYou are tiresome, and obviously an aspie with an eternal chip on his shoulder about BL novels.
I do like the idea that there is a more "canon" difficulty level, but it would be something havoc 30(I feel im being generous with this, based on average skill) +auric. Havoc 40 is just too sweaty and filled with meta crap to be fun often enough.Also need something more progressive narratively with the warband that isn't just weapon mastery. Tech remnants don't do anything!
>>583038756you really have the reading skills of an ameba.
>>583038775There's really not that much difference between h30 and h40 as long as you can get past the great EFL2 filter
>>583038954It's spelled amoeba.
>>583039009I would say max shooter buff and last monster HP buff are also the big difficulty spikes
>>582972396Unironically pretty admirable if true and not a lie
>>583038507This is true. With Empowered Psionics and Kinetic Resonance active the cast time is pretty quick. Kinetic Resonance also stacks, so if you're using double shields and you deploy both you can actually make it charge extremely fast. Celerity stimms also speed up the charge time. It's a perfectly viable blitz, but you have to build for it.Although on the other hand, the reason I use it on most builds is because of Kinetic Flayer. It's basically just free damage against elites/specials, without ever charging up the burst, and there's hardly any opportunity cost since I find that I rarely ever use smite or assail whenever I take them as simply using a staff seems to perform better.
>>583039012i don't care, you're still a faggot that needs to kill themself
>>583039370>>583039012Will you two fuck already? The tsundere is just positively overflowing.
>>583040167Back to /cm/ with you
>>583040167just cuz your dad always raped you after berating you doesn't mean everybody that argues with eachother want to fuck
There will never be an actually unique class like ratling, Fatshark doesn’t have the talent anymore to pull it off
New Bread:>>583043669>>583043669>>583043669
>>582993947toughness regen and the executioner one
>>583043731Thank you, chorfa.
>>582941972so trueas we all know space marines are immobile targets that never dodge or jump or run at considerable speeds
