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>Blizzard's new version of World of Warcraft, based on vanilla WoW
Set in the same Azeroth but expanded upon with new zones, dungeons, raids, quests, loot, graphics and much more
Many new race/class combos including Undead Paladin and Dwarf Shaman
More than 1k quests added making a 25% increase in quest content alone

>Talent Calculator
https://forevertalents.up.railway.app
>Patch Notes
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-september-24/2360696
>Class Deep Dives Druid & Hunter
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24301515

>When is it being released?
November 4th

>Beta Guilds
Type /who g-"Guild name" to see who's online, whisper anyone for an invite, or ask in thread.
<wowfg> - EU, PvP, Horde
<Little Space> - NA, PvP, Alliance

Old >>582952032
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Yes, it Warlock time!
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First for BATTLEMAGE
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why do so many right wingers want to play a game made by trannies
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>>582970453
? >>/wowg/
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>>582970453
i have a tranny findom fetish
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>>582970441
>die
>resummon pet 1
>sacrifice
>resummon pet 2
>create healthstone
>(sometimes) create soulstone
wonderful class, wouldn't even think about trying this miserable shit in pvp
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someone post the spellpower nerf chart
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everytime i see vanessa vancleef it makes me want to roll a rogue but they suck so bad...

should i roll mage (any), shadow priest, enh shaman, or feral druid instead
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Every new piece of content being gay retail aids aside-
Warriors are just classic Warrior, except with retail rage generation. You retarded reddit niggers are actually hype for this garbage?
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>>582970453
>right wingers have real jobs and want to unwind after a day of work
>trannies are computer addicts that autistically pursue unrealistic fantasy worlds and careers in "the arts"
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Brownoid seethe inbound
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Reminder that warrior is a hybrid class
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>>582970549
Don't die
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>>582970621
Reminder that posting an AI screencappy makes you a spiritual niggertroon
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Official balanced dps order. Highest dps to lowest dps. This is not up for debate. This is what is best for class balance.

Top dps
>Warrior
>Rogue
>Mage/Hunter
>Warlock
>Paladin
>Priest/Druid/Shaman
Bottom dps

You don't get to have healing and utility without any cost. That price is dps loss.
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>>582970621
>monk
i think we were talking about vanilla
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>>582970508
Please respond
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>>582970704
good to know you aren't in charge.
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>>582970704
Cope
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>>582970730
seems dat way
there are you happy?
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>>582970730
Maybe. They are removing a lot of blue leveling items soon because they added too many.
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>>582970730
idk but i think thats a safe assumption tbqh
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>>582970829
>>582970830
>>582970832
Yay :D
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>>582970613
>>right wingers have real jobs and want to unwind after a day of work
it's the opposite
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I never realized how well designed undead leveling was in the sense it's very straight forward and you don't have to go too far for anything at early levels.
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>>582970453
Vanilla wow is about as right wing as games get. Now there’s a bunch of troons and libtards to gank on top of it
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>>582970756
I am in charge. I work for blizzard. My job is to condition you retards to accept reality so when warriors are top dps forever, you don't sperg out.
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Cool it with all the green and recipe drops what the fuck. My inventory is full!
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>>582970613
most online right winger are neets and have nothing going on their lives besides the schizophrenia that is their culture war
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>>582970704
>You don't get to have healing and utility without any cost
>sunder armor
>thunder clap
>demo shout
>def stance
>taunt
>shield block
>battle shout
>shield wall
>disarm
>hamstring
>intimidating shout
>mortal strike
>victory rush
>spearing strike
You're right, warrior should be at the bottom of the list.
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>>582970704
In a perfect world we’d actually have multiple roles which needed fulfilling such as

>single target burst phases where strong cooldowns are necessary to beat an enrage mechanic
>aoe phases where strong aoe does lots of aoe damage
>ranged phases where rangers are required to attack shit that melee can’t/shouldnt
>stun/interrupt mechanics for controll based gameplay like cc to pull ahead

But this is wow raiding where skill actually comes from bullethell parryslop and mandatory epic lore drops before every session so you know.
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>>582970942
good to know you aren't in charge.
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>>582970704
just go play classic, warriortroon
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>>582970704
mage has more utility than hunter
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Any girl want to be my gf and play together?
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Can I jack off to Wow Forever?
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>>582970936
Yeah that always catches ppl by surprise there’s like a million quests and they’re all easy as fuck. Durotar is like the complete opposite that shits so fucking hard even for wow pros.
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>>582971205
Fapping to wow forever is very much encouraged
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>>582971175
mage utility doesn't mean shit since dungeons are faceroll easy. in raids all they do is make water and press frostbolt. but this is forever so you'll actually be spamming frostfire bolt and maybe the occasionall pyro from hotstreak procs. hope you got your 2 keys ready
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More Whitemane with big fat titties and a big fat ass please
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>>582971205
no they ruined femtauren faces
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whyd they nerf sunder armor what were they thinking
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>>582971320
They buffed it again.
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>warrior can tank therefore they are a hybrid class therefore they should be bottom dps
fine but same goes for paladin, druid and shaman (if they're able to tank)
sound good?
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>>582971278
actually im going to press baelfire bolt 3 times and then press frostfire bolt until i get hotstreak
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Rp-pvp please
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I'm starting to understand why there are addons that automatically filter Olympus guild members from everywhere.
The roach king isn't even on this server and he still makes it worse.
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>>582971394
It is a sacrifice I'm willing to make.
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>>582971278
Mage is the aoe class you fucking moronic piece of worthless shit. You’re so fucking retarded im gonna lose my cool here, i cant believe i have to share this board with actual nutcases who foolishly believe mage isn’t going to be aoe dps at raids and that it’ll just be spamming one button. Youre actually so mentally handicapped I can hardly believe what im hearing. I just got off the phone with bill gates and he had a raff and a half. We talked about the future of wow forever. I work for blizzard and I report to bill daily about all things, sometimes I just call him to talk about how my day went.
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>>582971394
Only the best tank has to be bottom DPS. So warrior it is.
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Any reliable and up-to-date census?
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>>582971394
>warrior, druid, shaman bottom dps
sounds good to m-
>paladin bottom dps
DELETE THIS
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>>582971516
>mage aoe in raids
>not brownies meleecleaving
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Tom Ellis confirmed fired. I have inside info. Not gonna be announced, they are just gonna let things die down. A quiet exit. Clampdowns in effect on unhinged employee social media posts in effect. Emergency PR lessons given to remaining staff. Blizzard does NOT want this launch to be fucked up. Chuds won.
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>>582970730
Right now (if you can manage to get the patterns, they haven't dropped yet in the beta, but the next set is at level 22 and 25 anyways) you can get Helm/Chest/Legs/Gloves/Belt/Boots all crafted mail healing pieces. And there have been a lot of added and/or revamped mail items even at this low level range that have healing and sp and int on them.
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>>582970704
Priest should be near the top, but only the discipline/holy spec. All holy damage should be guaranteed to crit against the undead and the undead should resist all shadow damage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vfk5GYzHrPs
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Shaman should be top DPS because they wield the power of the elements and thats really cool
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>>582971560
actually its looking like paladin might be the best tank in forever, so they should be the bottom by your logic :)
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>>582970603
Imagine being Mr. Smite and deflowering that young Rogue. She goes stealth just as he's about to come
>NOW YOU'RE MAKING ME ANGRY
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>>582971757
shaman should be top dps when they cast chain lighting
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>>582971056
Seething so sweet, it's a pleasure to read. Thank you for your post anon. You're wrong, but I enjoy how mad you're getting because you are unable to accept reality.
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>>582971672
Racism starts to feel like im being brainwashed with something I don’t care about. Like next time you think about replying to me dude just don’t include anything racist or sexual or any content about a streamer. Those are like some of the worst possible posts in my opinion.
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>This evening CEST, we will take the WoW Forever Beta offline for maintenance. A few hours later, (early in the morning of October 2), the Beta will resume with an updated build that includes changes and fixes, with the level cap raised to 30.
So level unlocks on Friday at the asscrack of the new day and not on Thursday? Scammed
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>>582971757
ah but they apparently can tank, so nope, down to the bottom they go
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>>582971782
As sad as it is I kind of have to agree. Paladin tanks are insane right now.
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>>582971887
just kiss me on the lips already... BAKA
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>>582971757
Yes but I want fewer people to play them so no
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>>582971782
NONONONO ITS MEANT TO BE OUR TIME I WONT DON THE DRESS SAVE ME AGGREND
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>>582971757
Too tanky and has increased rockbitter threat. They're just missing a taunt. They should be at the very bottom of dps.
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they should link housing with forever directly, just have your forever characters share the same house as the rest.
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>>582970603
every time you want to roll rogue just think about a warlock dotting you or a druid faeri firing you and how much fun that will be to play with
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hope they add bgs tomorrow
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>>582971908
Warriors are getting pulled into line with the rest of the classes because they were ridiculously, obviously massively overpowered in Classic. They’re not weak but they shouldn’t ever be allowed to be indisputably top dps ever again. Those are facts and anyone complaining about warriors getting a slap on the wrist like it means they’re going to be at the bottom of the meters is a retarded autist who should be ignored
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>>582971782
It's funny how people want Warrior to eat shit because they can tank yet with how things are shaping up Prot Pally will be absolutely insane and a better tank than Warrior, but they deserve to be higher dps because....?
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>>582971689
Nice, it'll be really good to keep the aesthetic of a mail/plate wearer while being a healer
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i hope that anni guild comes to forever and continues gangstalking and harassing small streamers
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>>582972147
this feels wrong i dont think the piggys ears should be fully submerged like that
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>>582972161
Warrior goes from #1 dps class to #2 and you act like you’re getting holocausted
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>>582972262
it causes no harm, there is a whole island full of swimming pigs
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why are people so afraid of warriors pvmping in forever? right clicking and doing damage is the only thing their class has going for them. every ability, except for charge/intercept, is
>swing weapon with +damage and +effect
so naturally shouldnt they be the best at right clicking shit?
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>>582972158
They weren’t overpowered the naxx speedrunner group brings a hunter and also a ton of mages. No rogues though.
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>>582972105
not going to be playing on a pvp server this time
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>>582972357
even less of a reason to play rogue
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Why do warrior main scare so much about what dps other classes can do? Warrior is an essential class in this game, arguing for raids with 20 warriors is just cringe.
And they not only argue for it, they obsess over it. No other class does this, just warrior mains.
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>>582972147
I want to see what absolute mess bgs are going to be with no locks and everything being allowed, from engineering shit to all the OP potions. I haven't done bgs in classic or vanilla.
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>>582972312
That's a rude way to refer to the English, anon.
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I just want another PvP realm cluster without streamers
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>>582972323
melee weapon classes doing high damage is extremely problematic game design yikes
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>>582972262
whats wrong with them being under water
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>>582972161
Actually nobody but Aggrend is advocating for Paladins to be better DPS than warriors. We're saying Warrior should not be the best ever again.
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>>582972404
They've spent the past 20 years doing 3x the amount of damage of any other class. That's why.
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>>582972431
KEK
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>>582972158
I actually just think they should give warrior more survivability later on. I mean if ret paladin is basically warrior with a ton of utility now, I really wouldn't have an issue with buffing warrior self sustain so they aren't total shit solo.
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>>582972161
Paladins should be #1 because the dungeons and raids in WoW should be filled with the undead.
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I’m calling it now, balance Druid are going to PUMP at 60
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>>582972147
>>582972262
Pig enjoyers, I have attached a pic for your approval.
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>>582972418
as usual pre-60 bg's will just go to whoever has the most priests and a decent druid if it's wsg
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i cant believe bluds really argued for 6 hours if warrior, a class that can perform multiple roles, is a hybrid(something that can do multiple roles) or not
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>>582972304
>It's anuddah shoah!!
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I want to like rogue but they seem genuinely unfun in forever. Like why be a rogue when Druids do what they do but better?
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>>582972147
Me when I smelt ore in UC
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>>582972431
jajajaja
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Is dolores the warlock here?
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>>582972663
A hybrid class is a class that can do all 3, as in. Paladin, Druid. Those are the two hybrids.
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>>582971979
It’s over man.
Shaman is not only the most popular pick, but it is on Reddit as well.

Idk how or why, but somehow shaman has become super popular with retoilets and onions boys. Im still going to play it because it’s the class I’ve got by far the most experience playing but damn our reputation is going to be down bad.
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You don’t get it I NEED to be the BEST tank AND Dps spec or I am LITERALLY being shoah’ed
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>>582972453
>Anon, it's been 4 days, time to take a bath.
MFW
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>>582972671
the only thing druids and rogues have in common is having combo points in one of the forms
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>>582972663
Technically any class can tank, tanking is just doing dps while getting hit.
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>>582972431
But anon, England is not an island.
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>>582972323
Warrior is not pure so by definition they don't deserver the topspot.
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>>582972779
so why does shaman have the "hybrid tax" in banilla then
>>582972887
holy mental gynmastics
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>>582972835
>Shaman is not only the most popular pick, but it is on Reddit as well.
Because they're fucking clueless, that's why. Somehow they got the idea that shaman will be good, it won't. Eventually they'll understand the class is shit and pick whatever is fotm. All the nerfs last week didn't convince them, and if the nerfs we're getting today don't, the ones coming next week or the week after that will.
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>>582972901
Calling them British makes you sound like a jeet nowadays, please understand.
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I wish there was multiclassing so I could play some kind of Rogue/Warrior hybrid and larp as a WC3 bandit. Less stealth, more "in your face" kind of character with higher armor. Its literally the stereotype of the barbarian.
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>>582973006
How'd this Diablo reject get to the level where you can wear a helmet and pauldrons, but doesn't have a chestplate or leggings?
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Have they said anything about a patch tomorrow?
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>>582973195
yes
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>>582972091
what is the appeal behind housing? it seems like a gay moneygrab minigame to sell furniture and decoration in the cash shop. the wod garrison shit was shit. i haven't played housing but i can only imagine it being just as shit.
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What are the odds they give rogue some unique flavour that makes them more fun to play in forever? I mean like how mages have scrolls
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>>582973195
no
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>>582973125
Cause breastplate is for faggots. Real men wear harnesses.
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you know why they called it WoW F?
because soon you'll be pressing F to pay respects because it'll be fucking DEAD LMAO
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>>582973265
Only thing rogues have is flavour. They suck at everything else.
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>>582970297
i Forever™ love WoWhores
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>>582973253
The Sims 4 shit for soccermoms foods playing while waiting for their laundry (Blizzard's main retail playerbase these days)
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>>582972262
You realize bodies create natural vacuums right? Same reason you don't fill up with water through your eyes, nose, ears, and mouth when you go underwater.
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>>582973235
>>582973195
Yay!
Link for updates made can be found here after maintenance tomorrow:
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-september-24/2360696
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they're going to import zones, dungeons and raids directly from retail expansions
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summoning cunnymanegod
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>>582973629
thats the old update
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>>582973594
Not sheeps. They can anal drown.
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>>582972835
most shamans won't get to 60 because it's not that engaging of a class
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>>582973265
>>582973369
It's an older meme, Si--I mean Ma'am, but it checks out.
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>>582972878
>me grinding defias outside of deadmines
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>>582973369
It’s a pvp class and can win most 1v1. It’s also one of the fastest levelers because of stealth. It’s also pretty good at anything involving caves, so chests or herb/mining/skinning. It’s also a very safe gold farmer on pvp servers because of stealth. It’s also the top dps in some phases pre naxx.
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>>582973701
I know but it'll be updated at that link as per the image and blue post I posted. Fucking dumb FAGGOTS!
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>>582973265
they've already shown their hand. the 31 talent on each rogue tree is the most uninspired garbage to ever touch the game
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and it shall remain as such until a fresh 'nilla realm is announced
i shant be paying for retail minus
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>>582973813
I wish Melonie Mac was my wife
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>>582973770
Pig almost did a 360 and walk away
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Retail minus posts really ramped up with normalized rage
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>>582972663
I can't believe in the year 2026 we still have the most disingenuous posts about Warriors of all time
>muh they should be shit because hybrid
Then so should Paladin, Druid, Shaman, and Priest, but they aren't anymore
>muh they shouldn't scale infinitely
No one is saying they should, not a single post in any of these threads has said "Keep warrior at #1 in PvE like Era!" they are saying "what the fuck you absolutely destroyed my class and turned it into 1 button press every 10 seconds auto attack bullshit, this is literally F tier"

Every argument against Warriors in these threads for the past week ever since Ahlaundoh made his video has been nothing, but literal faggots who spent 7 years crying about warriors on Era (literally who even cares?) making emotional appeals and whataboutisms that make no sense and it's clear they don't actually want the game to be fun or balanced, they just want warriors to suck.

I would take the era fury apm gameplay even if it was bottom 3 DPS in the game, because it's fun as fuck to play.
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Should I be playing a femhumie Holly Paladin who secretly liked to get railed by her Tauren master?
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What race/class should I play if I was a straight white man
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>>582973961
No, you wish you could fuck her once. I tried watching one of her videos that wasn't this classic and it was such boring foid opinion slop. Lasted 3 minutes which is about what I would last in coitus so she owes me sex.
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>>582973771
nobody ever mentions how shitty rogues feel in group pvp
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Have there been ANY opt-in beta invites yet?
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>>582973265
The way to make rogues powerful, flavorful and in-demand for group content would be to make them like Final Fantasy thieves. Thieves in that have passive traits that causes enemies they tag/attack to drop bonus gil (gold) and loot when killed.
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>>582974056
Undead Paladin of the retribution class
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>>582974064
but if I was married to her I'd get to fuck her more than once
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>>582971056
You're forgetting retal+shieldwall+aoe taunt, which any non-retarded DPS warrior can do to save the group bigly
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>>582974010
Paladins on suicide watch
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I can just go to the dressing room and fuck around with mail gear on a blood elf to see if shaman gear will look stupid oh my sky elf right?
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>>582974039
please roll on rp, in walking my tauren BVLL over to elwynn now
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>>582974083
they already have that, it's called pickpocket
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>>582973912
On era you basically just farm gold and pay boosters to get max lvl then you buy a hoj boost and an attunement boost pack then you buy a naxx boost and a aq boost. I haven’t checked the prices of items yet but it’ll probably be affordable. They got like an actual team of boosters boosting around the clock so you can always get legendary items.
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>>582974082
Anecdotally, I remember some nigga on a /v/ post saying they got an email invite from opt-in.
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>>582974030
>I would take the era fury apm gameplay even if it was bottom 3 DPS in the game, because it's fun as fuck to play.
but its just pressing bt, ww and hs on cd. you could literally press those 3 buttons at the same time and parse orange
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>be me (chad resto druid healer)
>need to run RFC
>make a group in the finder
>get instantly bombarded by simps begging to join
>"50s fee upfront, I get to keep all the greens"
>take in only mail wearers
>free 2g, free enchanting mats, free blue upgrades, get carried fast since I only take in high level players

It's as if I'm Israel and my little bitches (the Unites States) are doing everything for me rent free.
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>>582973702
Well maybe if Mohammad stopped raping all the sheep at night this wouldn't happen
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>>582973006
WC3 bandits were heckin cool.
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yep, I've seen enough, we need to holocaust all warrior players.
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is shaman fun in forever, particularly enhance and resto?
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>>582974141
So does everybody else she's fucking, lol.
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>>582974327
what about the prot warriors?
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>>582974349
no, hope that helps
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>>582974349
we are lvl 20
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I can't decide of Orc or Tauren shaman.
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>>582974262
>try this at endgame dungeon
>"bro who invited the resto retard without a magic dispel or fear break??"
>get kicked and told to reroll a real class

Druidsissies never learn
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>>582972779
No, it's literally 2 or more different roles.
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>>582974204
Ya and it ends up being tied to chest runs where you pickpocket every mob and loot all the chests. It turns into like its own specific gold farming thing which is just worse than selling item boosts and rogues just worse at boosting than other classes. Im gonna buy a boost soon because its like 25 times faster i cant wait to get legendary like you guys
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>>582974349
>enhance
It's still mostly auto attacking. But hey, at lvl 40 you get to auto attack faster!
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>>582974349
no
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>>582974349
roll a shadow priest instead
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Total warrior death
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>>582974204
Final Fantasy has pickpocket too, they're separate things. Treasure Hunter works on any kind of enemy.
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>>582973006
>>582974301
It would be cool for them to reintroduce some kind of barbarous human faction that is specifically offset from groups like the Defias and the Syndicate.
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No class/spec should have an inbuilt dps advantage, or a tanking or healing advantage. every spec should be as competitive as is practically achievable in their respective role.
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Is survival hunter just a solo farming spec?
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>>582974423
Sorry tranny, you lost :)
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>>582974507
hi we are only lvl 20 and nobody knows
hope this helps!
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>>582974451
but shadow priest discord is dooming
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>>582974507
play it and let us know.
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>>582974503
Oh boy, the nillers aren't going to like this.
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>>582974503
This except for druids. We don't need balance druids to be as good as mages.
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in the long run: will the PvP or the PvE realm have higher pop?
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1 warrior is worth more than 1000 palatroons
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>>582973771
You're really overvalueing stealth but yeah, I can see it.
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what website do u guys get those charts with post played characters?
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>>582974587
boomkin is such a retard spec
who would willingly do that to themselves?
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>>582974503
Lol it ends up feeling like shit when every class goes from 0 to 100 and instantly is putting out identical DPS. The meters look fucking retarded when you’re use to being a legendary player and you aren’t getting legendary anymore because some other shit player managed to get his procs. Yeah there’s not really a good solution to the raid question. Making every class viable because it has raid buffs is like the most confusing shit ever but that’s like the only logical way.
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>>582974603
Always PvP. But there are enough carebears to keep PvE alive.
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>>582974079
Theyre god-tier at defending WSG flag room but no rogue ever does this and just rushed mid
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>>582974480
Yeah, that would be cool, strange that they've never done that.
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>>582974603
PvE
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>>582970297
>black
>blue eyes
>fair skin

literally perfect
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>>582974674
just go on chatgpt and make it generate one, don't forget to make it fix anything that doesn't support your preferred narrative
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>>582974706
why would you want to be a beta male
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>>582974768
which boss was he best at? keep or maw?
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>>582974030
Keep crying little brownie.
Warrior does need a little help though. Maybe this more normalized rage on crit will fix it. I'm just salty they killed Sunden Armor.
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>>582974503
That's cute but the only way this truly works is if classes are boilerplate without any things unique to them. Classes need to have scenarios where they struggle and scenarios where they thrive. This will naturally cause asynchronous balance. You dont balance RTS factions by giving each faction the same units and buildings.
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That lil' HD gal has seen some shit.
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Hybrid classes should rarely if ever be the "best" at any role. They should provide DPS but also some sort of utility or flex off-role support. We ain't talking giant DPS gaps (maybe 5% lower both at peak performance) but a Mage/Warlock/Rogue/Hunter should generally pump more raw DPS then a Warrior spec'd for damage or Shadow Priest.

The only exception is for tanks which should all be good at tanking but provide minor differences for varieties sake. Like Warriors being better "main tanks" for raiding but Paladin and Druid having better AoE or damage when tanking.
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It's always funny seeing people rage about warrior because it means they are PvEtrannies. Oh yes, the game is so much more fun with 5 million paladins walking around in the open world with bubble, lay on hands, bop, freedom, ranged stun, and healing. Surely better than the warrior who is a walking free HK.
>NOOOOOO HOW DARE YOU BE NUMBER ONE IN ONLY 1 PIECE OF CONTENT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA IM GOING INSANE SAVE ME NIGGERDIN!
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>>582974686
Balance should've been a melee spec that fights with staves and fist weapons.
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>>582974920
>Classes need to have scenarios where they struggle and scenarios where they thrive.
like what?
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>>582974705
Even retail is far from that kind of balance. But every spec is viable.
>enhance second to last
kek, now that's fucking classic.
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Should I play a rogue? Are they fun? Are they worth?

Im a rank 1 Lol plauer I can be the next Pikarboo. Should I sign up for the 1.00.000k dollar tournament? Is it fun? Is it worth?
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>>582974934
Why are the HD models so vastly different compared to the SD ones?
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>>582974871
I'm more mad that their only two unique utility in the entire game (mortal strike and demo shout) have been STOLEN by hunter pets, on top of all the other bullshit that was laid on Warrior's lap.
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>>582974056
for an uncomfortably long moment, I thought her horn dangly things were filled condoms.
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>>582975064
pop off king
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>>582974957
>They should provide DPS but also some sort of utility or flex off-role support.
has never worked and will never work in practice aside from retarded flat buffs. which is exactly how we end up with 30 dps warrior raids in vanilla and 20 warlock raids in tbc.
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>>582974686
Boomkin is ele shaman but better
Powerful nuker turret except when shit hits the fan you can escape and survive any situation
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>>582975185
That also describes mage.
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>>582975118
you forgot thudner clap, and don't druids bring demo roar?
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>>582975232
No? You tarded lil gup? Mages aren't turrets, they're mobile. Mages only have blink to escape, doesnt compare to druid being immune to slows, polymorph
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>>582975183
>Blizzard is bad at balancing their games.
Woah!
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>>582975381
don't argue with the brainlet, all mages are legally retarded
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>>582975389
>bro they haven't been able to achieve what I'm talking about in 20 years across 5 iterations of the game but they should DEFINITELY keep doing it!!!

retard
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>>582975381
looool
>nooo you don't count as a turret if you also have superior mobility and CC
boomkin logic ehehehehe
mages also have ice block, poly, and silence, those are good for escaping
tf boomie gonna do while he gets assraped? pop bearform so it takes 1 second longer?
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>>582975118
Look on the bright side, you can do *checks notes* 80% weapon damage to dragons and giants every 20 seconds.
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>>582975471
>pop travel form and HoT up
>leave attack range and stealth

gee gee, no re, scrub
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>>582974149
Does to the fact that Warrior is a hybrid, they can do skillful plays where they save the group from a wipe. A real DPS can't just throw on a shield and taunt a mob off a healer.
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>>582974010
its because they whined so fucking much
go look at the forums. every second post is browns pissing and shitting themselves that they arent gonna be top dps by a country mile. boo fucking hoo
so because the current dev team are faggots they caved, and now warriors got their way. goes to show that crying like a bitch actually works if the dev team is also full of bitches. PATHETIC
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>Already bored with Aion 2
Should I even bother with the beta or is it too late?
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If warriors can crit and get rage rogues should be able to crit and get energy
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>>582975185
>Boomkin is ele shaman but better
>Powerful nuker turret except when shit hits the fan you can escape and survive any situation

>cheap shot, kidneys you out of bearform and kills you in the opener
Nice escape bro. Meanwhile the mage blinked that on the first opener. Druidsissies are getting uppity again, you're a literal walking free HK.
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>>582975496
>*checks notes*
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>>582975064
You will never be invited to the tournament.
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>>582975381
>mages aren't turrets
1 1 1 1 1 1
>mages only have blink to escape
Quite possibly the best escape tool in the history of not just WoW, but video games in general?
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>>582975584
sounds good but rogues also start at zero energy instead of full and only gain it with auto attacks
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>>582975601
larp larp larp sahur

checks notes comes from 2008 election twitter
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>>582975118
Doesn't bear have demo roar? Are you forgetting that druids technically could tank too but sucked compared to the only real tank in the game.
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>>582975601
>nooooo he's doing wrongspeak!!!
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keep your feet on the ground!
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>>582975587
>pop thorns
>watch rogue kys himself
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rough try for the anons who wanted more lesbo slop
https://files.catbox.moe/pctmsc.png
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>>582975773
Rare actually funny and witty name
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inb4 MWMWMWMWMWMWMW MWMWMWMWMWMWMW of the Endless Sneed
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>>582975824
what kind of hideous, malformed draenei is that?
where is her 4 foot horse cock?
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>>582975273
Wound poison is also heal reduction so MS isn't unique at all either.
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>>582975572
It's going to lvl 30 tomorrow and has 3 more weeks to play. Worth it? I'd say probably not unless you absolutely know you'll be buying the epic or heroic pack (for WC3). Otherwise I'd spend that time playing your backlog until launch.
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>>582975471
Mages dont sit and hardcast like a turret, have you even played this game before?

Ice block doesn't help you escape. Nor does silence really. Polymorph helps you escape 1 person. Can't be compared to druids shifting out of all CC and then stealthing after.
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>>582975773
These Stairs go up!
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>>582975824
Generate one with her being punched in the stomach and pissing herself
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>>582975930
>Mages dont sit and hardcast like a turret, have you even played this game before?
They can.
>Ice block doesn't help you escape. Nor does silence really.
Lmfao
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FACT: If you are against gold buying, you are Pro-Wowtoken
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>>582975626
You forgot that blink has a cooldown lil gup. A hunter and druid and rogue easily catch up with you.

>>582975587
>pvp trinkets your stun
Gg
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the warrior rage thing is a total nothingburger, the nominal rage gain is still fixed to weapon speed not damage as in vanilla so the exponential scaling won't happen. Giving bonus rage to crits is effectively identical to simply increasing the amount of rage given per swing per speed by some amount, except arbitrarily tied to crit which will arbitrarily inflate the value of crit as a stat. I would have preferred if they simply increased the rage gain from weapon hits.

They could have done talents for gaining extra rage just like rogues got in tbc/wotlk for energy, e.g. the combat talent that gives energy on offhand hits and the assassination talent that gave small energy gains on crits. That gives some unique character to the resource game on each spec.

Either way warriors should be no better or worse than any other spec on a nominal bossfight and I say that as someone that has mained warrior since 2007.
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>>582975923
wound poison needs to be stacked and isn't instant like ms
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>>582975954
vermintide 1 and 2 are on humble bundle right now btw pretty good deal
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>>582976049
I'm against botting purple lotus
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https://files.catbox.moe/Iamanindiantransaislopretard.fag
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>>582976138
Actually based. I was gunna wait for the inevitable Halloween sale to buy for a friend but this'll work instead.
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>>582975969
So you've never played the game, thanks for making it clear. Go back
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>>582976109
its about fun anon. it feels fun getting more rage from a crit
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>>582976049
jewish pilpul
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>>582976049
I am pro blizzard banning everyone who looks remotely like a gold buyer so streamers eat shit
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>>582976129
Also cleanseable as it's poison. And is of nature element so can be resisted too.
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>>582976208
if a boomkin can turret, a mage may turret in the same situation
frostbolt does a lot of damage
in reality of course you rarely turret, and boomkins get raped to death rapidly
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Has anyone bought gold? Are they actually banning people for it or is it just a scare tactic to say that they are?
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yep warriors are gonna be #1 again because the complained so much
blizz was so close to the mark if only they held strong. obviously warrior is overpowered and deserved a nerf so why they can't just stick to their guns and do the needful is beyond me. they just had to capitulate to the complainers
ffs.. blizzard has zero balls
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love to see warriors committing mass self-chudicide
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>>582976217
you know what isn't fun? not having reliable resource availability meaning you can arbitrarily win some fights and lose others based entirely on luck.
rage is shit in general, they should just give warriors energy.
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>>582976097
Blink was the genesis for an entire genre of video games and is such a powerful ability that it's a baseline ability for every character in that genre. The cooldown doesn't even matter because you blink into your teammates.
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>>582976312
just play the game
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>>582976356
Warrior's rage is the most reliable it has ever been right now.
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>>582976312
they are banning people for real
how "accurate" they are is unknown but they're definitely trigger happy right now
and it's all closures, so whole bnet bricked
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Why do trannies hate warriors so much besides being top damage on raid parses, do the male warriors remind you of the men you will never be and the female warriors the feminine beauty you can never achieve, it's like a triple dose of reality to your delusional fantasy that keeps the wheels turning before a rope finally cuts off the oxygen supply
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>>582976502
and it's still a stupid resource concept and still sucks, and energy would still be better. I have always hated rage despite playing the class for almost 20 years, even little things like having to burn bloodrage just to put up BS after a death is so cancerous.
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>>582976310
Boomkin turrets because starfish is a massive nuke and because they have no choice. Mages can weave in and out.

>boomkins get raped to death rapidly
Not in PvP that involves 2 digit participants. Druid sits in backline and drops massive crits, hence "boom"kin.

I know you've never played wow before and aren't playing the beta, but large pvp fights are very common now, and new BGs will also stage them
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>>582976129
>>582976292
Don't forget, MS does a % healing reduction and wound poison does a flat number. 165 per stack at max rank according to the beta so far
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>>582976374
>bro just blink into your teammates
Ok? A Druid can do the same exact thing, just travel form shift into your team mates, or cat form sprint
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>>582976334
Buffing warriors back to where they were in nilla, nerfing shamans back to where they were in nilla.
Gotta love it.
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SD dwarves and gnomes are sovl
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>>582976138
I didn't see it on there. Even did a search by title and they are selling keys full-price. I did look at my Steam for once and I already have VT2, which I have yet to try but I'll give it a go.
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>>582976716
they should change it to be % based t b h because it just hardfucks druids for no reason as a flat number.
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Sorry brown boy but you aren't invited to raid. Maybe try pvp? Not against hunters though. Or mages. Or, priests, warlocks, druids, rogues, or paladins. On second thought maybe you should stick to open world content and solo farming. Victory rush is sure to help you there. And hey, well, you still have Era, right? That fully kitted out r14 naxx gear warrior with thunderfury will be a blast in the THRIVING era scene! Speaking of, Thunderfury is now a spell damage weapon. Makes more sense with it being magic and all.
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ohh no it's this stupid fucking website's birthday and those stupid fucking hats are back on the threads
no wonder this place is in a lull, the trannies are all celebrating on discord beating their chastity cages with bbc dildos together
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>>582976514
>send gold to an alt
>all of the games you bought from blizzard are now gone
They need to have actual GMs if they're going to do this.
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>>582976649
lol
enjoy your boom booms big guy
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>>582976771
https://www.humblebundle.com/games/garbage-dwellers

$6 if you just want vermintide 1, 2, and their respective collectors edition upgrades
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Does wow have anything similar to the lusty Argonian of Elderscrolls fame? Just fantastical smut material or even a whole author you can uncover in a quest or is just there if you know where to look?
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>>582975045
like good in raids and bad solo (warrior)
or good in raids, pvp, farming and leveling but bad at not being a jew (mage)
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>see a wow clip of asmon gf
>look her up on twitch
>she's playing dolls with her viewers reenacting the lindsay trial
what level of foid autism is this
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>>582976817
Please get a trip, I don't want to see your posts in this thread or any other.
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>>582976570
Since 2019 there's been a rabid fixation on endgame, specifically raiding. A class is only as good as where it parses on wowlogs and Warrior happens to be at the top. Nevermind that Warrior is unanimously agreed upon to be pretty awful outside of ideal raiding circumstances, this doesn't matter as WoW is only about endgame apparently.
This discourse didn't even really exist on private servers. It was just understood that if you wanted to pump, you played Warrior, and suffered through leveling/gearing/being a free hk and having to have a dedicated Mage farmer to farm all the necessary pumper consumes and such.
Personally I think it comes from a very vocal minority who come from retail where the focus there is endgame, and are viewing Classic through the same lens. Hyper balancing of classes to the %nth degree isn't something Vanilla was known for. This was understood well on private servers too.
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>>582976957
Mother's milk
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>>582976981
Pick me final boss
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>>582976895
That wouldn't be how it worked.
>>582976930
Seen, thanks. Missed it completely, but it didn't click Vermin would show up in a garbage dweller pack, lol.
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>>582976958
No, that's retarded. No class or spec should be structurally inferior at entire categories of content.
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>>582975183
the most stacked class in TBC is shaman though
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>>582976901
I accept your surrender
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you buyed testing job? you are not smart like us. we do not do that in china ror
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>>582976981
That's funny at a glance. I bet much less so watching it.
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>>582977003
>omg guuiiiize warrior isn't the fastest leveler!!!!
Top PvE DPS, doing 3x as much damage as other classes
The ONLY viable tank
Absolutely unstoppable in PvP when supported.
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>>582975045
Like Rogues have no AOE so they should deal more single target.
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>>582977157
yes I only have so much energy for your boomkin ideas
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I mained Rogue and Druid and did a lot of BG's as both the FC and flag room defender.

Druids are far easier to lock down than mages since you gib them non-stop with double Crippling Poison. If they shift out of bear to cleanse it you kidney them in caster form, gouge into blind into sap to full reset and it's GG. You can vanish their roots or use imp sprint. Meanwhile a mage blinking away on the opener means I can rarely catchup to them.

Druids are a complete meme in vanilla PvP and a lot of retail andies are going to find out.
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>>582977203
You should only care about parses and being "top" anything if you also play that class, because you are only in competition with that class. That's how parsing works.
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Its true blizzard has always sucked at balancing but now that the pretence of no changes is gone I do hope they try to do more regular changes to classes even after launch.
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>>582976957
The Steamy Romance Novel series. Warning: he fucks dudes, but Crassius Curio does too so you're probably fine with it.
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>>582977241
>blud doesnt know a druid can apply abolish poison before shifting
>blud doesnt know about the new pvp trinkets
Oof
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>>582976981
>someone having fun in their lane
>WHAT THE FUCK HOW DARE YOU NOT BE GRINDING BIS IN A LEVEL 20 BETA AND 100 PARSING ON ARCHMAGE ARUGAL
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>>582977241
lol
good luck trying that in forever
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>>582977203
play a warrior then?
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>>582977203
The key phrase is when supported, meaning the class needs a dedicated pocket healer or it falls over dead when anything slightly looks at it
it's like the perfect class for you discord trannies, don't know why you're not teaming up with each other one playing war your discord buddy playing the heals
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>>582977241
>drink fap
>run away with flag
wow
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>>582977003
Best in raids
Best in PVP*
Latter half of leveling is easy.
Also, harder leveling doesn't mean it's hard. It's fucking vanilla.
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>>582977361
With double crippling I can apply it faster than Abolish Poison can dispel it (only ticks every 2 seconds for 8 seconds and has to be applied beforehand in caster form). You never played this game lil zoom and it shows.

>>582977413
I'm on the beta right now as a rogue and shat on every druid I dueled. This is without Kidney and Blind too lol
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idc im playing warlock
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>>582977591
summonsissy
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i just wish we could tell if shadow priest are going to be in demand at 60
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>>582977540
It was really funny just how many warriors went in to 2019 classic thinking this and got a freight train of a reality check when they realized just how much time and effort they had to put in to reach that level because they mistakenly thought it's just handed to you when you roll the class
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>>582977241
>press starfall
>kill you in stealth in one hit

Get fucked rog bitch! My bloomkin is bissy in Forever PvP!!!
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>>582977630
kill yourself brown nigger
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>>582977003
>implying
Warrior fucking destroys in battlegrounds. And as far as leveling speed goes, it is right in the middle. Just go look at SSF 1-60 speedrun records. People who complain about warrior leveling unironically have a skill issue.

Yeah you can't really aoe farm or do tribute runs or whatever but just make potions or do mining laps or fish or something. You used to be able to run old raids in a gdkp run as a pumper or better yet a tank
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>>582977591
123
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Warriors should theoretically beat priests because priests are immobile, wear cloth, and warriors have a direct counter to their main CC and they don't particularly care about their dispels or mana burns and priests don't have a disarm or mitigation cooldown yet
but they don't
warriors lose horribly to priests
because this game is gay and retarded and warriors suck
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>>582977786
kek, your future is an endless parade of cocks
>sum pls
>123
every dungeon
every raid
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>>582977906
lol, true
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>>582977732
>vampiric touch nowhere in the talents
>vampiric touch in the database is a SoD leftover
What do you think?
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>>582972570
uhh
cute?
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>>582977591
I forgot to get ony neck from bank summon me back
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idc im playing warlock
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>>582977761
That first half is very rough and will filter out the weaklings
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sweet, they fixed warrior.
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Retail sub rogue, fire mage and survival hunter are the hardest specs to play. And this is actually backed by data. Altho if you’ve played retail in the last 5 years you’ll probably just agree with me without question.
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>>582977906
The problem is that priests have sustain for days and warriors have 0 sustain by design. Unless you have a healer backing you up you can only win if you outgear or if you have pooled rage or get a lucky crit (or they play badly).
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i think the zoomers and manchildren that have gotten brainrotted by culture war bullshit have completely lost the plot and ruined wow.
i think the zoomers and manchildren that have gotten brainrotted by streamer bullshit have completely lost the plot and ruined wow.
i think the zoomers and manchildren that have gotten brainrotted by hustle and gambling culture bullshit have completely lost the plot and ruined wow.

Some of you are all 3.
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>>582978065
>And this is actually backed by data
Explain.
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>sweet, we bled from our vaginas and blizzard caved
i thought warriors were meant to be strong and shit but you're all just little gay bitches
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>>582978097
Probably the amount of people playing and the numerical amount of buttons to press and things to track.
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>>582977761
that's what makes warrior fun to me. the RPG archetype of weak early on, but scales hard later.
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>>582978091
Nah we are winning the culture war (by buying their 60 dollar beta)
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>>582978148
I want anon's answer, not your extremely retarded one.
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>>582977321
>no mention of parses
>"but muh parses!"
>>582977476
>The key phrase is when supported
Yeah, it's an MMO. You play with other people.
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>>582978176
shouldnt it say trump 2028
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>>582978097
You can see there’s a larger variance in min/max dps compared to all other specs. The logical explination is that ppl are literally just doing different rotations for these 3 specs, and the others are very straight forward and an equal number of people suck and an equal number of ppl are skilled
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>>582977591
123
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Haven't reached level 20 yet. Think I've fallen too far behind lads. Go on without me.
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>>582978065
Absolutely, sub rogue is the most difficult and fun spec in the game and has been since legion at least. Only gigachads with gigantic penises can play sub rogue.

Never played fire mage or surv hunter so I can't say much there.

>>582978097
dunno about data but sub rogue revolves around lining up burst windows using cooldowns of different lengths, so you have to make more decisions about when to press your buttons instead of just mashing your buttons to use everything off cooldown like a retardin ape
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all of this doubt around rogues has convinced me to main rogue this time
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>>582978176
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>>582978176
Always funny to see how right-winger need Ai to present themselves as masculine
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>>582978065
Is Sub rogue still that Shadow dance bursing? I didn't enjoy it so I never learned to properly.
I liked my simple Assassination. Variable amount of combo points from building and 5 bars to track. As melee.
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>>582978301
i've gotten a couple classes to 13-15, and some to like 9-11, i dont really want to hit 20 until cap is lifted and i probably wont go to 30
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>>582978257
that is not the "only logical explanation"
have you heard of RNG? ignite?????? retard
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>>582977591
123 sum
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I am legitimately pissed off and mindbroken over WC3 Forsaken Kingdom. Literally how the fuck did they make it, it's better written than anything they have made in actual decades and arguably the best written WC3 campaign.
Where the fuck have these people been for 20 years? Why can they miraculously pull this story and its characters out of their ass after serving up nothing but garbage for an eternity?
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>>582978065
>fire mage
not in tww thats for sure
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So is tomorrow a big patch day or something? Will they send out the opt-in code?
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>>582978225
other classes get to do quite a bit more solo stuff than what warrior is capable of
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>>582975824
blessed
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>>582978225
the point is, as a warrior you kind of have to play with other people for the class to even function or perform at the level relative to other classes. other classes are more or less exempt from this
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>>582978421
simple, it wasnt made by blizzard
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>>582978346
tbf it also made the tranny look like an actual human
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>>582978421
i got the forever collectors edition (i know, dumb nostalgia but value isnt bad considering i never bought wc3/fk) but i wont get m wc3/fk code until i get the physical package and i hate that. would be a good way to kill time until launch
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>>582978479
Apparently it was though, the story and writing credits I can find say it was blizzard, and the modders they worked with did gameplay and map design.
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>>582974056
This femdragon got fucked by black dragons for years and acted as a brood sow for them.
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>>582977241
Did you only play against random pugs?

The normal play is fap+skull. Your crippling does nothing, your stuns do nothing, your blind gets removed. You're forced to sprint+evasion. If he gets behind you to bash (or hits a bash through evasion), you've lost assuming you didn't fap as well. Same thing if he has tidal charm up.

In other cases, any time you leave bear with rogue on you, you need to 1. either have trinket for kidney or do it when kidney is on cd and 2. abolish immediately if the rogue has blind up. This is druid 101. Getting blinded in caster with no abolish is the most embarrassing mistake you can make.

In classic druid fares ok in p1 and p2. Beyond that they struggle with itemization and scaling for any purpose except fc.
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>>582978405
outlaw literally has a gambling mechanic and it's not on the list doe
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>>582978225
>Yeah, it's an MMO. You play with other people.
right. so a priest or paladin not really being able to kill stuff as fast is fine, because they can heal others who do the killing for them :)
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>>582977591
This triggered the fuck outta browns
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>>582978579
literally?
i dont care, nigger
fuck off
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>>582978257
Rogues do not have rotations. They have things and it's up to you to use them correctly.
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>>582978619
And since warriors can tank they don’t need to do damage, that should be exclusive to the pure DPS classes.
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>>582976895
>buy gold for a player you don't like
>blizzard bans them
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>>582978552
That's dumb, unless you get a cool box or jewel case with the code also printed on some cool paper or something. I've never bought a collectors edition of anything, and the first time I tried with Metroid Ravenous it was sold out in minutes.
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i'm surprised how good shaman feels to level 1-10. i've tried mage, priest, druid and i know they're all ass at early leveling but shaman feels like 50x better than all of them
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>>582978702
Honestly the should remove the lesser trees from all the hybrid classes. Warriors only get prot, shaman, druid, priest and paladin only get healing.
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>>582978749
i think it's just a code in an envelope. the physical stuff is just wowf related (like statue of dwarf hunter and bear)
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where the fuck is my dwarf mage?
I want to rape rogues in pvp
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>>582978314
Theyre both confusing and unintuitive rotations. Very different from the standard skill priority dps rotations people usually play.
>>582978360
Yes. Shadow dance was one of the most confusing buttons ever because it actually replaced your hotbar with the stealth bar. And im guessing most ppl just didn’t adapt to the new way to play the game. Rogue was also kinda worthless without shadow dance, because it had a short cooldown. So it was just this really confusing a new way to play rogue. And they even replaced ambush that expack with a new skill that was basically just ambush but it added to the confusion.
>>582978405
Im not so sure, it was a very large set of data. The dps would’ve been normalized and it would’ve just been a straight line. Instead, there was a difference with only these 3 specs. They also gave me the most trouble so im betting it was a skill issue.
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>>582977241
Does shifting have a gcd now in Forever?
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>>582978906
>I want to rape rogues in pvp
Dwarf rogue is right there
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>>582978773
>i'm surprised how good shaman feels to level 1-10
lmfao bro it's EXACTLY the same as it was in vanilla
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That scene of Garek regaining his memories and being transformed by the light was the coolest thing I’ve seen from that accursed company in more than a decade. So low budget and yet felt so much more genuine than any higher budget cinematics retail has gotten including that new trailer for forever

This dlc made me give a shit about the forsaken in a way I never did even before they actively ruined them with all the jailer nonsense and fucking Calia Menethil.
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>>582978983
i didnt play vanilla (and leveled elemental in tbc 21 years ago)
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>>582978702
they are the ones attacking the mobs, hence they need to be able to do damage.
hope that helps!
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>>582978963
Oops I meant hunter
But dwarf counters horde rogues as well once you get enough stam to survive the initial burst and deny them the blind reset
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>>582978314
I played sub rogue in early cata and it was by far the most difficult spec I had played. I never played the game after cata so I dunno what they've done with classes, but back then you were juggling 4 different finishers, getting unpredictable combo points via HoT, pooling energy for find weakness and optimizing your cd usage to keep maximum uptime on find weakness.

I remember checking the logs then and the variance in sub performance was just massive (though quite few actually played sub then).
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Hello darkness my old friend
I've gone to speak with you again
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>>582978963
I already rape other rogues in pvp without stoneform
percept + stun remove is better in the mirror anyways
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So glad to see Swifty thriving again!
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>>582978421
the main character is an underdeveloped dickhead that abandoned his mentor. the quests are tedious fetch slop. the only decent character has like 5 minutes of dialogue at the very end of it. there's no building or unit management. and all the villains are just surprise cameos with no additional lore. it's like a 5/10 wow zone.
the scenery is done beautifully and the callbacks are tasteful, and the conversations are at least written in the classic warcraft style. it's worth playing but you're way overselling it.
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>>582979296
swiftyGODs... we won
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>>582979229
You're right about that
Humans getting both stun removal and perception, being the most played race and top it all off being hunters now is going to make it a bad time to be a horde rogue
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>fresh vanilla server
>0.5% xp rate
i will now pay for a sub
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FACT: ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS THREAD

FACT: ALEXENSUAL IS THE BEST CLASSIC AND RETAIL PLAYER EVER

FACT: ALEXENSUAL GAVE US CLASSIC AND FOREVER

FACT: YOU ARE HIS BITCHES
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>>582978773
>I tried priest mage and druid up to level 10

You should have tried rogue as well to complete your full bait list
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>survival hunter is just better fury warrior
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>>582970621
We need a pure healer class
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Why is fire mage the least talked about spec in the entire game
I often forget it even exists
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>>582979089
Decrease damage dealt by 90%
Increase threat generated by 1000%
Fixed
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>>582978906
is this the new dnd warcraft book?
anyone have pdf scans of it?
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>>582979586
no.
hope that helps!
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>>582978702
>And since warriors can tank they don’t need to do damage
retoilets everyone
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>>582979305
Rivendare and the scarlet crusade are hardly “surprising” cameos. If you’re just annoyed about Naxxramas showing up, then i mean… sure? But I thought it worked out fine.
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>>582979554
Currently there are 3 pure healer classes: shaman, druid and priest.
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>still no new classes announced
yep, aion 2 destroyed wow fogever, they better not even launch it
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>>582979674
Very funny, ass hat
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>>582979674
aoe farming zombies doesn't count as tanking, my sweet pink princess
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>>582979736
>Very funny
And true.
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>>582979296
Boomer got a few more years away from total bankruptcy and wageslavery thanks to Forever now. Hopefully he won't blow his free shekels now and be forced to wagecuck after Forever is over
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>>582979654
>nelf least played race on alliance even with 3 new racials
damn
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Stop bullying the poor brownies. It's first time they haven't been the only choice.
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>>582979906
>people still taking this aislop website seriously
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>>582979906
>3 new racials
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am I the only one looking forward to collecting pets ?
gonna farm red/green whelps and ooze, gonna be comfy as fuck.

most shit I read about is muh balance and streamer drama
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Having withdrawals no blizzard shooting themselves in the face or foot pr drama in the last 6 hours
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>>582979296
I'm joining the 2026 WoW Forever Swifty Gaming house and will become Twitch's next top streamer, you mark my words
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>>582979654
I really don't trust any of these charts when everyone is using AI which just bullshits out fake info whenever it cannot find the exact statistic.
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>>582979526
>bait
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>>582979654
>380k characters
>lots of them are alts by the same people
>aion 2 had 171k online for the paid early access
>probably 400k+ in the real launch
damn, didn't knew forever was getting mogged this hard
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>>582979305
>the main character is an underdeveloped dickhead
what exactly is underdeveloped?
> that abandoned his mentor.
you mean the mentor that ordered him to leave because they had no chance of survival and was obviously sacrificing himself for the main character?

ok, no point in continuing to talk to you. you're either retarded or bad faith, probably both.
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>>582980016
the only pet i ever used was the little orange darting raptor if they put that in the game i will get it
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>>582980016
I'm gonna be a sigma male solo farmer, occasional pubs for some gear.
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>>582979662
surprise cameo is a phrase that means unlisted/unadvertised appearance. it does not have to literally surprise you.
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30 minutes until monsters and memories explodes just like pochie...
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>>582980418
That game looks cool, shame forever release is eclipsing it. And also no one but me and you ever hearing about it ever
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Im late to the party but I can’t believe ascension closed lol. Thats actually kinda fucked up, they probably did a better job than forever.
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>>582980507
so true xister, just look at how cool their cash shop was. blizzcucks could never.
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>>582980569
omg the SOVL
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>>582980569
It was a pvp game you fucking retard
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Maybe I just don't know any better, but doesn't Spriest look absolutely nutty in PvP now?
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>>582980569
>insta max lvl potion
>insta max profession
>all-in-one tool
>36 slot bags
we need these or forever is dead
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>>582978576
in forever, rogue blind is classed as a spell and can be cleansed/cured
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>>582980647
It does
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>>582980569
>cash job LE BAD
>RMT everywhere LE GOOD
kill youself, blizzshill jeet
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>>582980609
>>582980734
ooof... the pserf sissies did NOT like that post....
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>>582980647
Always has. High damage but lower spell dmg scaling is why they didnt take a big hit like other casters.
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>>582980569
>this is the thing all those shills have been howling about
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>>582980734
how much of a braindead monkey do you have to be to defend the most soulless cash shop imaginable
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>>582980734
>p2w GOOD
>pay for sexy elves BAD
Kys troon
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are there good classic creators that know what they're talking about who you watch on youtube? 75% of the videos i find when i search wow forever are AI thumbnails and regurgitated slop
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Forlo won
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>>582980839
TRUE!!
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>>582979893
wasnt he delivering pizza on stream before blizzcon
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>>582980829
The game isn't out yet
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>buy $200 in gold from vietnamese farmers
>become the strongest tranny in wow shitever
>"oh look, this game is great and fair!"
you deserve to be shat on
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Stomach hurts so bad, class/race for this feel?
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Sisters this can't be happening
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>>582980767
>DP baseline
>All that extra damage on everything
>200% crit
>Dots can crit
Interesting times ahead.
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what's the most complex class? I've played wow a bunch and i've forgotten
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>>582980763
It had perfect ping just as good as a blizzard realm. Ascension wasn’t really a normal private server. Actually it’s kinda weird how good it was, my theory was that blizzard just wanted to release a new game but wasn’t comfortable putting it under their main company title because it wasn’t the usual boring stale game that retail is where you can’t have fun spells without ruining their esports programs and summer camps or whatever the hell that twitch shit is suppose to be.
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>>582981049
Druid
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>>582980829
i want to find one as well
most are about as competent as myself which i mean i could just do myself
but some are 61 iq (not naming names) and i wonder how they function day to day that come up when you look for content creators
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>>582980939
Yes, because classic was dead and retail was (is) shit.
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>>582981049
Warlock
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>>582980996
Do not appreciate this image
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>>582981025
Who the fuck uses reddit in 2026?
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>>582980829
ahlaundoh is alright. you have to understand anyone actually good at the game will be autistic and thus not good at speaking publicly.
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>>582980959
They only sold cosmetic stuff or leveling boosts or professions. The integrity of pvp and raidlogging was kept fair. It was also able to be sold on the auction house, I got a cool transmog set just from buying it from some guy.
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>>582981118
why not
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>>582980193
everything. he literally just becomes a captain of the forsaken in the blink of an eye. his character trait is: i just want to help people, it's what i do. completely one dimensional robot.
>ordered him
lol. only footmen and peons follow orders in warcraft.
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>>582980959
how can gold make you this strong
explain
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>>582981081
>>582981113
ok, one of these it will be
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>"high chance of gaining skill"
>1/10
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>>582980996
>image
w-what's about to happen...?
also, if you're taking requests, could you do a followup to the buttplug gen earlier in the same position with the plug out and her spreading her cheeks to show off the gape?
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>>582980647
Shadow weaving and shadowform both ate a 5% damage nerf. This is made up for mind flay (gets a 20% damage increase+range increase), partly made up for swp, devouring plague (5% damage to instant casts from disc). Mind blast eats the nerf in full.

Devouring plague (now with 1 min cd) and swd easily make up for those though. Mana economy is much better though in 1v1 scenarios it wasn't a big deal.

Dot/instant side of things will probably receive a nerf of some kind. Quite powerful as is.
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>>582979594
that's the vanilla manual
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>>582981025
is that what i think it is, is the + sign in the colors of the lgbtq flag, they love shoving it in your face and putting it where it doesn't belong, it's like them colonizing your hobby and telling you no longer belong
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>>582980829
Yeah you need to find the guy who actually accomplished something. Many of them have YouTube channels. Rank 1 Speedrunners for naxx or level 60. Or people with r14 titles I guess might know the meta a bit better for pvp.
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>retail finally got RS3'd
>retoilets will realize the end is near and come in droves to WoWF
the only real blackpill for this game and its something blizzard cannot/will not do anything about, damn
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>>582980829
Simonize is the GOAT for rogues.
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>>582970938
What an insane fucking post.
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>>582981424
>rs3d
Yeah that’s a fair way to explain it. Looks like fucking shit retards, might be fun to play but I don’t got $60 anymore retards.
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>>582981386
If anything, it reminds me of blackbody scale.
Then horde and alliance in a more tasteful gradient than just mashing red and blue, creating purple.
Then it's just the good old orange and blue.
But then it's reddit, these fags can make anything about their fetishes.
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>>582981531
>Looks like fucking shit
>might be fun to play
???? what am I reading
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What classes have potential legendaries to get? I remember seeing something about Ashbringer for paladin, are there any others?
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>>582980829
if he uses ai slop thumbnails then he uses ai to write his scripts too 100% fuck em
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>>582981627
The graphics look completely different. Wow has never looked anything like that. I played the jailers expansion but I got really bored doing that tower thing, it’s all so hazy and unmemorable. I didn’t even raid log that expansion or get gladiator it was so boring and there was like Christian propaganda every 5 ft in that game and it was just overall not a good game and kinda offensive actually.
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>>582981620
I think it's more a play on lbtqia + and linking it with classic + to signal that the mods are faggot trannies, they were probably giggling on discord about it when it got subverted
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>>582980996
LOVE the pic, moar please
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>>582981690
I'm glad the vagina was covered, otherwise I'd be quite offended.
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when specifically tomorrow do you think the level cap will go up??
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>Shifting Power: New 16-point gold medal talent. Prerequisite Shredding Attacks. We are doing something a little different here, where there are two gold medal talents on this row, this one that is Cat-oriented, and Primal Bite that is Bear-oriented. Shifting Power instantly grants the Druid 40 Energy, but at a significant Mana cost. It starts with a 16 second cooldown, that can be further reduced by other talents. This talent is new to next week’s build and is not in the beta yet.
We're back cat bros
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>>582981690
>taped pussy
based based based based based
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I keep ping ponging around on what i should play. Even considering rogue now
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>>582980016
Half the reason I bought the pack is because of the mini pets.
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>>582981928
I just wish it also let me convert mana into rage as a bear.
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>>582981835
>this is the IQ of the average classic player
SL was shit but you sound like a fucking retard
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>>582981950
you shouldn't take the state of the classes or anything you hear about them into consideration because they will obviously be tuning them until the end of the beta and beyond. so just pick what you want to play.
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>Shaman
>Really strong starting out
>Reach level 15
>Noticeably slower
>Burning through mana like crazy
Does it get better or is it just a class thats strong early and drops off later?
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>b-blizzard will b-ban them!!!
>ok the streamers didn't got banned
>ok the gold buying website isn't down
You are here
>ok maybe its normal to buy gold
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>>582982179
>ok the gold buying website isn't down
whats blizzard supposed to do about that
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>>582981992
The jailor is a real person and he actually started talking to me around that time. But he didn’t really do anything important so that’s why I more or less just point out how his expansion was not even fun. And he will probably say “it wasn’t even supposed to be”, because he’s coping. His games fucking suck now he makes all this shit as like a hobby.
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whats with the doomers in here 24/7?

any person playing a blizzard game in 2026 knows about RMT/goldbuying/hacking/botting.
private servers just use their own instead
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>>582981690
SEXOOOOOO thanks for doing my request, that plug gen was one of the hottest I've seen
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>>582982145
Shaman is the only class in the entire game that gets worse the more they level. Might be fixed in forever
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>>582982179
LOL pserf sissies trying to shift the narrative away from their p2w cash shop servers.
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>>582982179
do we have any crimefighters/detectives here who can bring these guys to justice?
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>p2w cash shop bad
>p2w RMT good
the blizzshill is out of control
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>>582979296
Swifty did nothing wrong.
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>it took OSRS a decade to add a new skill, with the community kicking and screaming almost the entire way
>Forever isn't even out yet
>the community is already begging for a new class and more new races
I don't feel optimistic about this. WoW players are so stupid and selfish, they have no foresight.
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So far what’s your favourite class? I’m quite fond of Druid personally still have to try mage and rogue
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>>582982386
nigga they already did classic, it already died, doing classic again with a different name is going to end the same way
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Does fucking ROL only drop mail or something? Hesus Kristus
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>>582982386
>classic
>classic fresh
>classic som
>classic sod
>classic hardcore
>classic forever
>classic fresh (planned for 2028)
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>>582982532
You mean like how RFC/WC/DM only drop leather and cloth?
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>>582982610
waiting for classic fresh fresh+
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>>582982618
It’s almost like those leather pieces are not only good on warrior, they’re way good
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>>582982145
Why do you need mana to melee the mob down? Tard.
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>>582982696
new shaman players assume you are supposed to blow everything you got all the time
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soooooooooooooo
Warriors are back to SS tier
nice game wowtards
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>>582982610
>classic fresh (planned for 2028)
kino incoming
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>>582982895
Never you mind.
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>>582982895
nintendo lawsuit
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Classic vanilla should have shorter refresh/restart cycles
It should start over as soon as botters/gold sellers get 100g
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>>582982895
I have literally never leveled here, or silithus or any of the ally zones
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>>582982448
U have to play the top dps class. They actually intentionally balance some classes to be good and some to be bad and some to be like middle of the pack. It’s made to look like kinda random or like every class is capable but it’s never like that it’s all following a spreadsheet formula. So my favorite class is like whatever I guess they’re all fun but I’ll just be the top dps and everyone’s always telling me how good my dps is just because im at the top of the dps meter in every raid and also on the front page of warcraftlogs before.
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>>582982895
Best quest xp in vanilla
Massive roaming dinosaurs that merk HC players
Devilsaur mafia and pvp power struggles
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will you join Olympus now?
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>>582981620
>these fags can make anything about their fetishes.
Do you see the pictures that get posted on these generals? This place is just as bad in a different way. At least I can type nigger and retard here.
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>>582978065
Survival hunter is not one of the hardest specs to play in retail lol. It's the hardest hunter spec, that's about it.
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>>582983172
Location: India
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>>582983327
Indians don't into vidya
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>>582983010
If you've never leveled in Un'goro, you're missing out. Packed with quests, high mob density, and is extremely comfy during rain
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>>582983164
sure if you can inv me to the main olympus i dont want to be in one of the cuck guilds
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>>582983172
No. I don't care.
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imagine tryharding in a fucking beta lol
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>>582983514
>tryharding
>literally nothing else to do for 2 weeks
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>>582983514
you're a beta
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>>582983514
lmao right dude? what a bunch of fucking NERDS!
anyways, you wanna go throw some ball and have some steamy buttsex ye?
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i hit level two in m&m

>>582981354
https://files.catbox.moe/f7j9v1.png
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>>582982610
>>classic fresh (planned for 2028)
Actually need.
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>>582982378
what are you gonna do when forever inevitably becomes the biggest wow launch of all time and pochie2 inevitably dies just like frostie?
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>>582983660
>frosite died
What?
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>>582983010
Un'goro is fun anon, you should give it a chance. Silithus is for rep farming.
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>>582983660
he will play the newest brazillian tranny server flappy wow. big donos needed!
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>Horde 60% Alliance 40%
It's over for PvP server sperglorgs, the easy modo seekers have gone after easy mode yet again, who could have seen this coming? What do you mean nobody wants to play a dwarf shaman either meanwhile undead paladin stonks skyrocket? How about an ally lock on a PvP server? What do MEAN wotf, more shamans since horde has more popular shaman races aka more tremor totems and earth shocks and yeah yeah orc gets to remove curses and banes and become immune to them while reducing magic damage too why not. WHAT DO YOU MEAN THIS DOESNT SOUND LIKE A FUN TIME. What we really needed was a nerf to gnome racials tho, wouldn't want that ally pop to be 42% or something scary
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>>582983660
not going to happen, forever is going to fail miserably, it already is
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>>582983747
>horde 60%
lol
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>>582983735
Well I will when forlo releases
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>>582983791
biggest wow beta of all time,
>IT'S ALREADY FAILING REEEEEEEE!!

lmao you are gonna fucking rope come november
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>>582983801
>40k characters
what is this
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>>582983801
gj flipping it
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>>582983550
You could play a different game or maybe touch grass.
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>>582983801
>
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>>582983801
this could not be more fake, in no universe would fucking dwarf shaman be the most played race/class.
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>>582982895
garbage zone full of bing bing wahoo references
took them until WotLK to add some real lore in there
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are we hyped for lvl 30 and rage changes?!
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>>582983880
>stop playing
no
>need to touch grass after doing each dungeon quest once and 15 more over a 2 week period
no
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>>582983948
human paladin slightly beats them out now

>>582983882
>including data from thousands of fags not even past lvl 5

lol
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>>582984004
Rage changes?
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>>582984020
baseded
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>>582983958
what did they add in wotlk? i only remember the raptor mount which was added kinda late
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>>582984024
touche
also filtering out the redditors
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>>582984035
rage being generated by crits again
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/warriors-rejoice-no-extra-rage-on-crit-has-been-reverted/2367562
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>>582984035
they added rage on crit again
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>>582984154
>>582984149
Ok?!
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>>582984136
they added some titan shit on a shelf that was inaccessible from the ground, which you got to from a teleporter in scholazar basin.
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>>582984205
Wdym OK? MOTHERFUCKER WARRIORS ARE GONNA GET BACK TO DPS PLACE NUMBERO UNO FUCKEAH
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>>582970297
the most beautiful female in warcraft
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the druid discord seems to be in agreement that this is a change to the rage formula in general and not a warrior specific thing. Both warrior and feral tank are rage starved and both explanations are under “Rage:” The druid article is already bloated with the changes coming to feral dps via power shifting, probably was put in the warrior article since all 3 specs of warrior use rage while only 1 of 4 druid specs use it.
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>those undead stats

cant wait for the trillions of ret paladins to quit the game when they cant find enough raid slots
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>>582984227
are you dumb? that change is nowhere close to reverting to vanilla rage mechanics.
all they basically did was buff the normalized rage gen by like 20-30%.
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>>582984307
This isnt era, forever is chill, nobody gives a shit about raiding
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>troonrriors will ruin the game so it's classic yet again
and you losers think this shit game is going to survive more than 2 months, pathetic
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>>582984327
>all they basically did was buff the normalized rage gen by like 20-30%.
>"Rage from dealing damage: We have fully-normalized this Rage. Rage gained is now based on the speed of the weapon that dealt the damage. In the launch beta, we gave no additional Rage for dealing critical strikes. We are re-adding that. Critical strike will now give 75% more Rage than non-critical strikes.”
You are mindboggingly retarded
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>>582980418
the explosion in the back represents my semen eruption
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>>582982895
being able to see the big ass dinosaurs due to the new draw distance kind of feels sad. i hope the fog is extremely dense
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>>582984327
which is what warrior needs to still top the charts
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>>582984307
they are testing the class idiot, there will be less of them at launch
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>>582984386
Yes, a crit attack will have 75% more rage than a normal attack. But that rage being multiplied is still the flat normalized value. it IS NOT the vanilla rage mechanics where your rage is proportional to your damage dealt, which was the root of warriors' huge scaling.

This is, as I said, basically a flat buff of 20-30% to rage income.
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>>582984483
>there will be less of them at launch
lol
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>>582984334
We will see
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THE RETAIL DEVS ARE LAUGHING AT US
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>>582982046
OGRED
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>>582984508
No? We already KNOW, this game is not made for the "rush to 60 raid for a week and begone" people
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>>582984601
How do you KNOW? Because Blizzard made a little vaguepost? lol
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>>582982046
>>582984538
Gold digger bitch fuck off
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You'll all be back on retail in a month tops
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>jeet defending blizz on cooldown
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>>582984538
Her nose is completely botched from plastic surgery wtf.
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>>582983164
>revolve your entire gameplay around asmongold
No. The tagalong guilds will never raid. They will at most maybe sometimes pug with each other and a few randoms if they need to fill roles, but they will never have actual progression if the raids get semi-difficult (like Ulduar level of difficulty). The only guild worth being in is if you were in the main guild and on the actual raid roster. Everyone else in all those late to the party guilds will be scrounging for scraps in shitter pugs and following Asmon around like a lost dog. I don't want to login and the only thing I can do is go join a 1000 player inorganic world pvp with assmon.
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>>582983172
>prepping for 24 days of level 30 which will be reachable within 10 hours
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>>582984647
Does your pea-sized nut in your head called brain even work
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>an entire month to suffer through
At least I can have some normie comfy October times before I lock myself up for the following months, undoing all my attempts at leading a normal life...
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>>582984735
i got too many games to play man
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>>582984706
>10 hours
maybe for you, lole
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>>582984663
I haven't played retail since 2009 in original wotlk.
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>>582984307
Humans a better pve and pvp class for paladin. Everyone serious about doing a world first guild will be human. Undead paladins are cool but doing more dps is also cool so lol I really don’t see undead paladins making it to a world first guild of onyxia. Thats going to be a human racial thing lol.
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>>582984735
In two weeks they will test the hardcore ruleset, if you're bored
t. inside
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>>582984663
there is not a single person on the planet hyped for TLT
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Rogue specs
>two weapon melee DPS
>two weapon melee DPS
>two weapon melee DPS
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>>582984817
You seem very defensive lol
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>>582984882
>I NEED MORE ENERGY
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>>582983948
classes that only have a single race option should be the most played combos. The funny thing is how many people on horde rolled Paladin jsut to discover how bad it is and abandon it at level 12 lol
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>>582984882
rogue should have been a hunter spec. it's a joke that a class has 3 barely distinguishable specs to do the same fucking thing.
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>>582979586
Flat bonus threat abilities suck dick long term, see tbc or classic fury tanks
Give tanks a big threat modifier and let them deal scaling damage., lower than dps but you catch my drift
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>>582984783
it was a worst case estimate
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>>582984753
Oh yeah Dark Arisen for DD2 is next month.
Still, if it's anything like the main game, it's like weekend's worth of play.

>>582984864
I haven't boughted beta for the sole purpose of not spoiling the game for myself.
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>>582984817
>serious about doing a world first guild
My man you need to touch grass, find a job and go outside
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>>582984882
>memespec
>leveling and raiding spec
>tranny spec
fixd
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>>582984964
>>leveling and raiding spec
Cawmbet
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>>582984817
world first onyxia was like 20 years ago dawg
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It is really sad how a good majority of the thread is retail trannies and private server brownoids
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>>582983626
>image
that's not how you ride a horse...
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>>582984930
It's how they "fixed" shaman tanks in SoD. Remove all the damage, replace with +6 gorillion threat.
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>>582984961
Imagine seriously writing touch grass. Thats literally worse than redit dude that’s like the gayest meme ever and I don’t even believe it was organic like it looks like it was made by the cia or something just because of how gay it actually is. Literally homosexual, by chance do you get fucked in your ass you little faggot?
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Forever? More like for a week and then for NEVER. HAHA.
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>>582985010
>nooooo stop playing the game!!!
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>>582985010
yea i miss the glory days of ceegee
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Fishing
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>>582985087
Get a life loser
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>>582985087
>>582985127
>He didn't deny it
Uhm… watch your butt, anon
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>>582983172
I got real bored so I didnt fill it fully, but i have 35 quests ready to be instant turned in and maybe a few more I dropped along the way to pick up dungeon quests instead. I don't want to finish the two gnomer quests or finish up duskwood/ashenvale/wetlands right now so i'm just leveling an alt instead.

Most of my turn ins are dungeons though. All BFD, Stocks, DM, WC, ROL, and even my Verigan's Fist quest are all ready to be turned in and I'm currently parked in ROL as that was the most out of the way turn in.
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>>582985087
brvtally bodied that retard
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>>582985087
its actually not that gay. you literally go outside and you literally touch grass. the more barefoot the better. try it. you'll feel better. you don't have to live like this.
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only self-deceiving morons think this game won't have the same fate of wow classic, being dead in 2 months.
blizzard is making no effort on changing the game enough to change that, it'll literally be dead faster than classic because the people that played classic arent going to give a shit and play this again.
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>>582985203
based
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>>582985120
will be so fucking COMFY
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>>582985229
>the more barefoot the better.
there's scorpions and snakes and shit out there though
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>>582985203
nooo you cant you just CANT
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>>582985243
biggest wow beta of all time lmao
viewership of a beta higher than almost every expansion release ever lmao

you will rope on november 4 and I will laugh, lmao
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>>582985291
dodge them the same way you dodge them every other day.
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>>582985229
Kill yourself
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>>582985229
>barefoot
People will look at you strange
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>>582984516
I'll kill you you little fucking crow
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Prot Warrior looking good. The only fun warrior spec. So basically, yeah. Tank chads win.

What do you think about this?
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>>582985120
>footbait
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>>582985347
>pathetic mongoloid thinks viewbotting means anything
you are a dumb little creep defending blizzard's scat on a plate that is this shit game
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>>582985350
show me how first
>>582985372
that only matters to children or people who are mentally children so no big deal.
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>>582985385
it seems a little too ez right now, something bad is gonna happen
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>>582985120
this guy's a fag
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>>582985385
>What do you think about this?
I think it's great that prot is getting some love. Unfortunately everything else got gigabuffed again so no one will be playing prot, just like nilla.
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>>582985402
>self reporting
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>>582985437
>I-i-i-it was all bots!!

LMAO
go back to playing on frostie faggot, oh wait, IT'S ALREADY DEAD KEKAROOOOOO
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I want to inside skelf pussy cum cum
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>playing wow forever wit da old friend group
>the friend group in question
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>>582985561
why?
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>>582985243
Theyre making OSRS with this where they copy tons of new mechanics but keep the original graphics. It’s definitely an osrs/rs3 scenario. Osrs was like decent if you liked RuneScape at all, you’d probably have enjoyed Osrs. I don’t really like video games but am currently being held hostage at gunpoint by an invading tribe who gives us mass produced digital entertainment to stop us from going outside when we’re hungry. So I play a lot of games until they’re finished raping and murdering my people.
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>>582984928
They should've moved CB to subtlety and made assa an sp-scaling poison spec.
Rogue fantasy has plenty of design space but it's just unused.
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>>582985243
>I'm DOOOOOOOMINGGG!!!!
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>>582985484
>posts footshit
>bro you posted footshit
>self report hmmmm takes one to know one :)
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>>582985587
Better question is why not?
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>>582985474
>gigabuffed
It's like 2.5 more rage per second on a target dummy that you never miss.
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>>582985695
Ah right, let's just ignore the fucking page and a half of other buffs.
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>>582981928
>gold medal talent
What did I miss?
Found similar language on an obvious AI generated site
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Can't find any discussion on monsters and memories. Maybe I'll try it to tide me over for October
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>>582985683
I looked at that pic twice and did not notice she had no shoes on
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Damn why can't horde just have Blood Elves. I wanted to make a Warlock, but skelves have no casters.
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>>582985727
such as?
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>bored at level 20 with my maxed out character
>know i will be bored at level 60 raidlogging my maxed out character
>wont level an alt for legacy points because the bonuses are insignificant when you have gold
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>>582985782
play hc unironically
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>>582985087
Touch grass.
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>>582985782
>5 talent points is insignificant
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>>582985804
playing hardcore doesnt change anything, i already dont die.
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>>582985686
because race mixing creates niggers
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>>582985765
Here you go senpai:
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/news/24301514
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Azeroth is flat not round
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>>582985847
neither do I, but it does make it more engaging
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>>582985825
retard
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i wanna fuck male vulpera in the ass
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>>582985857
>White human male + white elven woman creates anything but aryan super humanoelvenoids.

Have you heard of Arator the Redeemer, saar?
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>75% more rage from crits, 100% rage from dual wield spec gone (probably). nerf until ~44% crit
settle down warr tards
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>>582985825
>he thinks you get 5 bonus talent points

you can start putting talents in at level 5 instead of 10, you will stop getting talent points at 55
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>>582985762
Darkfallen and Belves are the only elves fit for the horde
Skelves is such a massive blunder
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>>582985892
I need to research this a bit..
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>>582985859
This is a news article summarizing classic > forever changes for normies that aren't in the beta and don't watch streams. Other than the rage changes and the rend change all that stuff was already in the beta
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so enh shamans will use maelstorm weapon and windfury totem, right
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>>582984928
I think rogue should have had a ranged spec, with a focus on guns so they aren't competing much with hunters for loot
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>>582986046
imagine if they'd let you dual wield guns
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>>582985926
skelves are blue niggers, half of them when to get orced like whores
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>>582985937
I apologize. The original comment was so retarded that I misunderstood it by speedreading.
I thought he was seething about being bored on era because 60 obviously isn't available right now.
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soo warrior buffs to dps 1

paladin nerfs

hunter buffs
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>>582986091
No one plays them blue. Further. Not a single pairing between an Orc and elf exists in canon. What now? Have you any canon rebuttals?
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So uh why did they make ROL so easy to get to as an Alliance player? You maybe die once when you first enter, but that's only because there is level 20s there at all hours of the day since there is nothing else going on. Alliance basically get a whole extra dungeon, because getting to Hall of Thanes and Stocks is way too much effort for horde to go through.
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>>582985347
It was lower than 2019 and lower than tww and it's viewership on twitch includes both retail and classic.
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>>582986173
You can tell just by looking at skelves they are made for Big Green Cock
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>>582970297
>36
>Working min wage job (which I actually enjoy desu)
>No wife or family
>Not dating and can't be bothered anymore as i don't like the idea of girls I'm interested in multi dating or getting fucked by other dudes while I'm seeing them

Should I just getting fully immersed in this game despite failing to get immersed the past 2 times I've tried (back in 2007 and 2014)
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>>582985954
blood elves don't fit on the horde and never did
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>>582986208
So uh why did they make RFC so easy to get to as an Horde player?
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>>582986249
it was lower than 2019 LAUNCH, it was 3x higher than 2019's BETA.

Biggest wow launch of all time, guaranteed. All you can do about it is cope and seethe.
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>>582985762
Just be alliance, it doesn't matter
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>Have you any canon rebuttals?
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>subreddit is nothing but people complaining about rmt
>blizzard didn't do anything about it and probably won't do
this is going to blow up in their faces
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>>582986363
>it was 3x higher than 2019's BETA
2019 didnt have a beta
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>>582986292
???
Horde got RFC, Alliance got stocks, that was the tried and true system. Now they both get 2 new ones in their major cities, but ROL is easily accessible by alliance, and hall of thanes is deep is ironforge's bowels. It's stupid.
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>>582980016
>>582981952
is there even any appeal to collecting pets these days when the best looking and most appealing ones come from the store?
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>>582986446
Exactly
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>>582986208
who fucking cares about a lvl 15 dung
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>>582986387
I wanted to check out more Horde leveling, duh.
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>>582986265
they fit as much as the forsaken do
don't tell me your criteria for the horde is being ugly lol
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>>582986258
ye
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>>582986446
>>582986503
pffffffffffff

AHAHAHAHAHA
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>>582986483
Hall of thanes is the RFC equivalent
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>>582986432
Redits not even a real website blizzard just writes all the posts and gives it fake upvotes and downvotes. They admit this if you read the posts carefully, it’s done subliminally because it’s actually done by a talking immortal demon who has a mental disability.
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>>582986208
Apparently Hall of Thanes is getting an alternate access point for Horde but it's not in the game yet.
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>>582986363
They invited barely anyone to the classic beta. You could not buy into it.
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>>582986484
Quantity over quality. You have your favourites already.
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>>582986514
beta tourist aka asmontard
getting to 20 is all they know lol
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>>582986483
you're intended to roll alts and experience different leveling paths
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>>582986602
good thing we are talking about twitch viewship then :)
if anything, that should have driven even more viewership since people couldn't get in themselves.
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>>582986483
stockades isnt even a real dungeon

horde get easy access to
rfc
rol
sm
wc
rfk
rfd
gnomer (bb teleport)

alliance get easy access to
hot
stocks
dm
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>>582986578
That’s dumb if they add that since RFC is in the bowels of orgrimmar and inaccessible
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>>582986547
That's my point
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>>582986650
Oh.
I agree this will definitely be a bigger launch
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>>582986446
There was a closed beta and open stress tests.
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>>582986256
blue elves are so tranny coded with their pink hair and tattoos that it wouldn't surprise me if they reproduce by docking their dicks togethers.
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>>582986738
so nothing.
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>>582986682
I guess Stocks is still unaccessible for Horde so it's fair.
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>>582986682
Are Alliance niggers so retarded that they don't know Stockades exists?
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>>582986779
>no [beta] is not beta and neither is [beta] i win
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>>582986790
>fair
go back to retail
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>>582986883
theres nothing to watch, so people dont watch
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whats stocks
t. mhp
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>>582986256
They look like they fuck human men, just like all elves.
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has the cap been changed yet?
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>>582986265
NTA, but, nigga, all of it is made up. Warcraft is fiction. You can make anything work.
>"THAT'S WHY RETAIL SUCKS"
No. Retail sucks because the gameplay sucks. Lore and story literally don't matter for an MMO.
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>>582986992
Nah tomorrow
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so they buffed waryors???

warriors won????
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>NOOO I NEED THAT FOR MY ARCANE BLASTS!!!
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>>582987025
what's the difference between retail gameplay and forever?
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>>582987059
das rite we numba 1 parsechads again
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>>582987025
>>
no world buffs?
no buy.
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>>582987025
if blizzard implemented mythic+ or challenge modes into forever/classic and where your ilvl was locked, people would just accept it and love it i guarantee
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Whatever happened to Tom?
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>>582987171
this
browns rise up
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tauren bros need to make an union and demand blizzard to change the cultivation racial for anything else remotely good, like stun resist, debuff resist, whatever
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>>582985954
I blame timm bruce for my love for blood elves. I love this body type
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>>582987376
Furries will still play tauren no matter how bad the racials are.
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>>582987489
It's not that cultivation is "bad". The issue is it's a racial tailor made for bots.
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>>582986256
I get the role of the sky elves as the dedicated "girlfriend race" on the Horde, but I cannot fathom why anyone on the Alliance would bother playing them when the Night Elves exist. The Night Elves are just better across almost every metric. Better animations, better skeletons, better racials, better lore, better flavor, better zones, easier access to the human/dwarf zones if you want to start there, so on and so forth. The only thing that sky elves have going for them is if you really, REALLY want to be an elf mage for some reason, the High Order has this sort of discount High Elf thing going on with an accommodating caster racial to boot. But most Skyborne I come across aren't mages. They're druids and hunters.
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>>582987489
Pretty sure they will just play druid for the forms.
And now that there are pretty elfs on horde who can be druids, they have no need to play an ugly stinking cow.
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>blizzard admits they can't track RMT even on the beta
I thought they would crackdown on RMT?
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>everyone just buying gold
ts so cooked
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>>582987536
It was funny seeing all the tauren bots somehow in winterspring at level 5
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>>582987536
They already fixed it so it scales with your character level
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tfw you remember blizzard will randomly nerf your class on a whim because this is a live game again
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>>582987594
>>582987595
The emperor is naked.
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>>582987642
>somehow
its 2026 and blizzard still hasnt fixed flyhacking
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Why are you guys playing the beta? Wouldn't it be better to experience the game properly when it fully comes out?
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chuds wonned
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I like when horde players say the races are more interesting because they are monsters but then they all just play elves. They refuse to admit they only played horde for the superior racials.
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>>582987538
>Alliance would bother playing them when the Night Elves exist
Caster
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>>582987570
Gays play druid. Furries play tauren. There's obviously some overlap as some gays are furries and vice versa.
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>>582987761
I'm not, Im just shitposting, I'm not a retard that would pay $60 to beta test a game
things are looking very grim tho, I'm not liking what I'm seeing these past few days have only been streamer drama and blizzard incompetency
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>>582987817
they won a mandatory pride event in Forever and a humiliation ritual
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>>582987893
where
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>>582987594
>>582987595
>buying gold
>in the beta where your characters are going to be deleted
Blizzard shouldn't track who is selling gold in the beta. They should track who is buying gold. Not to ban them, but to report their identities to the government so that one day, hopefully, they will all be castrated and thrown into a zoo. I am sure that once everything is explained, even people who don't believe in eugenics will understand that this is for the best of the human gene pool and society at large.
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brehs... alex looks so old now
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>>582987480
Someone posted pic related the other day and now I'm even more miffed about the Skyborne
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>>582987594
It's not selling that illegal, it's the buyer who is the retard who deserves to lose their 20 year old account.
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how good are the porn mods for this game, asking for a friend of course
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>>582987962
It's mostly gamer dads who already have 3 keeedz.
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>>582982179
>total orders 11k
>0 ratings
>0 stars
sloppy job chang
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>>582988051
Ask for yourself you closet degen
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>Blizzard warns World of Warcraft: Forever players it will 'very aggressively' punish anyone who buys gold with real money
lmao
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>>582987983
yea
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>>582988179
But what about the website that sells the gold? blizzard can't do shit lmao
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>>582988304
its all meaningless posturing, they never fully cracked down on GDKP as well
only thing that disappeared were trade chat adverts
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>>582988448
>only thing that disappeared were trade chat adverts
Good enough.
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>>582986540
Isn't that what Horde is?
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>>582988179
They should also ban people for joining groups with their friends, it just gives them a really unfair advantage compared to solo players. Especially if they’re trading supplies around, they should be banning for that. I don’t have anyone giving me any supplies. Thats against the spirit of competition and fairness. Also tanks shouldn’t be allowed to queue into the same group multiple times, they should be banning people who try to pillage from the tank stock. So that everyone always has a tank, that’s the fairest way to do that. They should be banning people who add tanks to their friends list and try to do dungeons with them.
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new thread
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>>582988497
trying too hard, lil' gup
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Gen some femhumans, bros
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>nov 4 release
>nov 11 already 60
>nov 13 full bis
>2 more weeks until raidlog
>dec 4 raids release
>clear them in 3 hours
>logout for the week
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>>582988304
I have no idea how they’re getting gold so cheap. The farmer is only earning like 120g per hour, he’s selling it for practically less than he would get for unloading trucks.
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>>582988635
>The life of a PvE faggot
grim
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Why are hunters so popular this time around?
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>>582988707
Because they're OP at low levels
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>>582988672
>being a pvp minigamer

if i wanted pvp i would play the numerous competitive games that are already on the market that are significantly better than wow arena/battlegrounds
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>>582988569
Thats the gayest word ever faggot you sound like such a fucking retard. You’re also literally fucking retarded and probably have a mental disability
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>>582988707
It's just for the beta. They can kill skull mobs quite easily.
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>>582988707
easy to level
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>>582988610
So just women?
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>>582988762
>arena/battlegrounds
The absolute state of PvE cucks
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>>582988762
It's funny seeing the same PvEsissy cope in Classic as in Retail. 20 years of the game mutating into an entirely different gameplay system at a base level, and yet the exact same copes come out all the same.
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new
>>582988914
>>582988914
>>582988914
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>>582988707
very good solo character especially early
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>>582988762
>pve realm
you're in the minority
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>>582988707
their survival tree is overtuned and they'll have the best physical dps
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>>582988762
Kek as a multi r1 pvper I agree. Wow pvp is ez as fuck, how many titles do I need anyways. I also got in the top 10 of Diablo 4, which was a much better game.
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>>582988707
We can currently only go to 20 which is long before hunters fall off
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>>582988946
not even close.
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>>582988707
>why is the class historically overpowered at low levels popular in a level locked beta?
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>>582988497
I think you should buy some gold retard.
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>>582989117
55k level 20s on PvP
21k level 20s on PvE
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>>582989195
on the beta realm?
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>>582989429
It's been the case on every version of WoW.
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>>582987860
Furries are 80% neurodivergent homosexual men. That's a fact.
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>>582988638
Probably one in some shithole country guy controlling multiple characters at the same time, also bots that run on stolen electricity.
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>>582989195
when asmongold and the streamers leave in 2 months, pve realms are the ones that stand strong.
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>>582972431
lol
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>>582974934
>cutie in her 20s
>walled karen
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>>582976334
Whats the enhance nerf?
Did they address paladins getting 100% int to spell power while shamans get only 30%?
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>>582972158
>they shouldn’t ever be allowed to be indisputably top dps ever again.
They should always be top dps.



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