Poop Deuce EoS (End of Shit-in-tub)[PoE 1]>Curse of the Allflamehttps://www.pathofexile.com/allflame>3.29.3b Patch Noteshttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-post/26841440[PoE 2]>Return of the Ancientshttps://pathofexile2.com/ancients>Forbidden Riteshttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3999858>0.5.5d Patch noteshttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/4008534Resourceshttps://pastebin.com/SHt8unCtprevious map (we call them maps again because poo2 is dead, thank god):>>582798015
comparison is the thief of joy
absolute dogshit atlas. it needs to go. how can they even let this be in the game? It's too complex for these jeets to code a proper atlas, just go back to PoE1 maps.
are there still racing events? i want more free stuffs
>>583008052i agree with you, but i have no delusion that they will ever fix it. jonathan thinks it's all fine because it all looks so high quality. it's not, but it looks like it.
LE bros, what class are we playing tonight?new CoF looks sexy as fuck too
All you dalit need to get out of my brahmin thread saars!
>>583008414Nyope.
>8 hours to get the twitch rewardsjust how bad is the game doing?
What the fuck happened?
>>583010129egos as always
>>583010467Woody lookss so autistic in this one, you'd never expect him to develop an ego
>>583010129Game succeeded
>>583010129holy MOGGED
PoopOfExcrement2Debate me. You won't.
>>583013336Alright, I'll debate you.Niggers, jews, arabs and indians should be castrated at birth.
>>583014159>>583013640
when are they saving poo2 by adding Ruthless
>>583014159why would I debate poop of excrement? the numbers don't like. palworld still has more players online than poo+poopoo combined. Every known quality single player game blows this shit out of the asshole.
>>583014423they should save poo2 by adding a video game to it. preferably a fun one to play. bonus points for not being needlessly stupid, by that I mean overocmplicated for no reason other than to pretentiously suck some dick like the faggots they are.
>>583014618>poe1cels think poe2 is too complicatedembarrassing
>>583014809Nobody thinks that. Poo2 is shallow as fuck, guardrailed to oblivion and back.
>>583014809poo1 is needlessly overcomplicated too. it is time wasting. the game doesn't really need 500 fancy systems that all lead to the same result.Here is how to improve poo1.3 acts main campaign that ends at lvl 30.30-80-100 you do delve.keep shaper boss fight.remove everything else from the game, including the retarded ass "skill tree" that doesn't give you skills.
>>583015194is this the game poo2troons would design?
>>583015194This sounds like it would make poo2 a better game, instead we'll get another 2 acts in a couple months
LET TUBATROON COOK
>>583015569sadly not. poo2troons only deliver vomit inducing bullshit.
when's 3.30?
>>583015194retard
>>583014423>pagfly
>>583015751except act II and II are total fucking shite in poo2. because they're too long. entirely overstretched like the grandpas balls.
>>583015909not an argument you shit eating nitwit
act 1 is the only good act0.1 was the only time poe2 was actually goodnow it's just a bad version of poo1
>>583015956They're fine
>>583016136except we all know how poo2 0.1 got rejected by the majority of players. this was especially visible when 0.2 tried to continue in that direction.
>>583016192all acts should be cut in half. even act I is entirely too long in both games.
>>583016335>reject the 0.1 design>player numbers plummetreally makes you think...
>FECKING POGGERS I CAN'T HECKING WAIT FOR NEW ACTS ALL I DO IS RUN ACTS ACTS ACTS FOR MONTHS ON END
>>583016364Nah, they're all good.
>I like the acts in poo2nobody except for woodful says this
worst general on /vg/
SIR PLEASE DO THE TUBFUL
I dropped another!
>>583013336When was the last time you posted this? I feel like it was years ago
>>583016656hsrg exists
>>583009031still no class in the game except paladin. kinda weird they keep releasing patches with only one class, but its their game i guess.
I hate prepping maps and messing with tabletsFeels so clunky, waste of time , frustrating. Most the time I quit it is to do with this. I do not have fun messing with these interactionsAnd for the people saying well just don't do it, the game is optimized for me to do it so it feels worse if I don't knowing that I am missing out on loot , lil fomo. I don't think it should be default best method
>>583016192>a game that is designed to appeal to everybody appeals to nobodythat is poo campaign vs endgame. autists rush to the endgame to jerk off to a slot machine. casuals play throug the campaign once and never launch the game again. if ever finish the campaign.You can't have 20 hours long acts, full of shitty world building, and text lore, that is inferior to the chatgpt writing for players who want to play endgame. Why wouldn't I play a pvp arena or chess instead? I get into the lategame turn 1 in the chess. No thousands of years of chess lore needed.On the other hand, imbecilic systems and late game praised as "game mechanics" filter almost all of the other gamers as is evident by poo numbers. It will never appeal to any casual.Poo2 is shit game design maxxing by taking the worst from both worlds. People will never remember time wasting or shit random and stupid systems fondly.The game doesn't even have a solid core, because the lore and writing aren't good enough. And even if they were, the campaign is a massive borefest, that is way too long. It shouldn't even exist.TL;DR: Simply bad game design, esp. noticeable in poo2.
>>583017032Don't care enough to read you spergout, acts good
Acts are trash because nothing you drop or do in them will matter after you've beaten them. No decision taken will ever be interesting. No drop will last you for longer than a couple levels. You don't even get to play the build you wanna play in them.In poo2 the acts seem to be designed to be "challenging" (hard to remember or read layouts) and very adverse to the player to boot.
>>583017174which is why there is a tl;dr, you scat fetishist.
Lets be real. Chris was the driving force behind poe. Tubatroon just happened to be there. Did you ever hear Tubatroon talk passionately about arpgs? The answer is no. That's why he has no idea what the fuck he wants. He just went 'lets take a bit of lost ark, take a bit of dark souls, take a bit of stupid shit nobody asked for and make a disgusting and retarded Frankenstein game'. Poo2 would never ever be in the abhorrent state it currently is with Chris sailing this ship. I would pay 1000€ to hear Chris' unfiltered opinion about poo2. He would tear this garbage to shreds.
R*PED
>>583017447I hate the faggot, but i am not above admitting that tubman was an OK code monkey that made poe1 what it is today.
>>583017298Acts good
>>583017447>Poo2 would never ever be in the abhorrent state it currently is with Chris sailing this shipHe was sailing the ship for most of its development.He got ruthless made and thought it was a good idea.He cockblocked async and pause for decades.Chris is charismatic but he had a collection of awful ideas he was too arrogant to reconsider.
>>583017447Erik was the sovl of GGG.
>>583017580>i need to contradict whatever anon saysgreat argument
>>583017515>Challenges completed>Zero
>>583017669I've always held that stance, idk why that anon is being intentionally a contrarian to me
>>583017680>SAAR PLEASE BE OF POOING THE NEEDFUL CHALLONGES>BIG NUUMBER VERY DESI!!!!>NO NUMBER VERY PAKISTANI BANCHOD MOTHER FUCK!!!!!!!!!you need help
>>583017680that faggot is a poo2 player only. this is his post history. if you ever thought someone on /pooeg/ was mentally ill go check this guy out.
>>583017680People who have zero challenges should be respected more. The kind of person still playing poe1 will never stop, so they no longer need to be catered to.
I can buy 85 divines for 1 American dollar. Why do people think that they're going to make millions of dollars botting 1.0??????????? Other than legacy items and character names what could possibly generate the income that empires like TFT made in PoE 1?On...certain websites...people are talking about running tens of thousands of bots simultaneously right now.
Everything that PoE2 was marketed as trying to fix since they first announced it... It has not been fixed.Good combat - initial attempt was an OK start, progressively got worse and more PoE1. But even in the beginning they immediately added a homunculus with an endgame not fit for that promise.Fix melee - same as before.Visual clarity - when the game progressively throws more and more enemies and effects at you instead of tougher enemies.. is anyone surprised?So, yes, EA was a huge lie even beyond what you mentioned.
>>583018387because you can easily make like 1000s of divines an hour with only a couple bots runing in parallel, 24 hours a day. and at leaguestart they are gonna be like 1 divine per dollar, rather than 85.
Last Epoch S5 in approx 1 hour!
>>583017525Yeah, Tubatroon should have stayed in his fucking lane.>>583017634Here we go again with that fucked up story. Did we see any of the dogshit gameplay and absolutely retarded design decisions when he was still there? The answer no.>>583017654Maybe so, but Chris knows what the fuck is up.
I haven't farmed Essences in ages. Do you guys vaal orb every one in hopes that they hit deafening or do you wait until you see a certain number of imprisoned essences?
>>583018387>empires like TFTkek
>>583019471CLICK THAT SHIT HOE
>>583019426you are such a newfag it is actually pathetic, posting nostalgically on cooldown for years about an era of PoE1 that you werent even present for, insanely cucked behavior.
>>583019426>Did we see any of the dogshit gameplay and absolutely retarded design decisions when he was still there?Yeah, tons, I listed a few already, I'll add>sextants>lab enchants>forcing the company to make more acts than planned and forever soiling POE1 with a subpar A6-A10 experience
Time to admit that Neon "Frogmode" Roberts was the ideas guy who actually made PoE good and anything without his hands on it is fucking unplayable dogshit.It's a shame that Chris and Jonathan each made mid 8 figures off his work while he grinds away for his measly $300k Kiwibux salary each year.
>>583019781the chris times might not have been perfect, but they were better than the dogshit we get now
>>583019604My Shaper encounter?
Never forget.
>>583020792acts are good
>>583017808I've seen niggers like yourself before. Failed developers bitching about gamers not engaging with their unplayable dogshit, that has caused the corporation to go broke. The most entitled, arrogant, lame, talentless ball fondlers have existed in the game industry for decades and decades. I'm happy that GGG will fail and fire your stupid ass.I cheer every time you incompetent, degenerate smug gay cunts get fired for being imbeciles. I especially love when you midwits start whining and bitching.
>>583021007I dunno what is it about this thread that tries to force the shittiest, unfunniest memes.It's kinda like /r9k/ but even more sexless and antisocial.
No, I'm not going to play 3.30 when 1.0 is right around the corner. I'm just not going to do it. HAHAHAHAHA
>>583021117Acts are good, in both games
>>583021117>I'm happy that GGG will failmeanwhile, in reality...
>>583021209>sexlessare you that kind of incel that thinks having sex is some kind of bragworthy thing?
>>583021460looks like a failure to me, my dear retard
>>583019781Your baseless assumptions and retarded opinions really put me in my place. I will now troon out. Any tips? You seem to be a fucking legend in the estrogen chugging business.
>>583020083I'm talking about poo too broo
>acts are goodt. contrarian who doesn't actually like acts
>>583021716Yeah man, terrible
>>583021716I can't wait for 1.0 release and you faggot will never show up again with your """predictions"""until then keep coping
Okay, serious question here. What does /poeg/ thinks. How large is the marketing budget? Do you think it will pay off? How much will the Chinese owners of niGGGers pay Asmongold to lie to the world and fake the enjoyment of this dogshit game for a week upon the release of 1.0?And how much do you think they will pay autists like Ziz, Fagbun, maybe even Raxx, to promote this dogshit? And for how long will we see the content creation world leech off niGGGers and fake interest in the game? Will it be worse than the 0.1 poo2 release when they have paid fucking vtubers to play the game for an hour and then never again, lmao.
>>583021991poo2 will never get another spike like 0.1i love how you know this is true, yet you keep barking at me, like a little dog
>>583022113you can't believe that after it goes f2p it will not hit 0.1 numbers?this must be bait.
>>583021515>ad hominem but no denial
>>583021992asmongloid will be busy shitting up wow forever, and won't be playing poo2 when it "fully releases" its bowels.all the poe streamers will play it for free, but it's not gonna get even close to 0.1 numbers, all the normies who wanted to try it have already tried it. just ask around a bunch, everyone will say "what poo2? i already played that when it released in 2024"
Ore Wa, Supa Tubatroon Da!
>>583021716>>583021983>>583021991meanwhile, the real numbers. pathetic. frankly.
>>583022398not looking good tublets, tick tock, what's the cope on 1.0 flop gonna be?
most retarded general on /vg/
30 minutes until poch
>>583022648Why do they release on a Thursday?
>>583022339I agree with you, except, that the streamers won't be paid to do it, esp. Asmongold. Because they need to attract players. Desperately. The cattle following Asmon in wow, will follow him into poo2. Otherwise the game is completely ded. It is indeed possible to play 2 games during the day, esp. if you're a neet or a full time streamer. few hours poe, rest wow, for example.And no streamers will willingly launch the game that brings in no numbers (viewers, etc.). All streamers are for sale, I don't mean in the degrading way. I mean that sponshorships and playing the games they have absolutely no fucking interest in, whatsoever, is literally a major part of their income/job.
>>583022608I do my own shit in PoE2, but have to look at builds for LE, since i dont spend much time in endgame at all. Will try Shuriken Marksman this time i found on maxgg. What build will you run this season?
>>583022869>can't even reply to the right postretarded indeed
>>583022789asmongloid has not launched poo2 after 0.1, he will not play on the 1.0 release. mark my words.
>>583022339>all the normies who wanted to try it have already tried it. just ask around a bunch, everyone will say "what poo2? i already played that when it released in 2024"so much cope. literally can't make this shit up
>>583022950Go back and play some gacha faggot.
>>583023004pretty clear you don't talk to normies. i'll need lots of snack for the 1.0 bowel release.
>>583022648pochers
>>583023004The doomtroons may not have won the battle of player counts, developer resources, or having a better game, but they are determined to win the war of most dedicated spammers on /poeg/, so who really won?
>>583023004That dude is def the most retarded in here and his analytical levels are the worst I have seen. PoE 2 will be released for free on Steam and with 1.0 update and he thinks there wont be a surge of new people what a fucking idiot.
>>583022994I guess we'll have to wait and see. I'm pretty sure niGGGers at least would have been planning something akin to 0.1 release, wasting tens or hundrends of millions on marketing.
THIS NIGGER IS NUTS
>>583023146anon, I don't think your family sperg chat is a representation of all normies who are literally waiting for the game to go f2p to jump in
>>583022648SO EXCITED
I hate prepping my bull and messing with his tasselsFeels so clunky, waste of time , frustrating. Most the time I quit it is to do with this. I do not have fun messing with these interactionsAnd for the people saying well just don't do it, my wife is optimized for me to do it so it feels worse if I don't knowing that she is missing out on her goon, lil fomo. I don't think it should be default best method
>>583023648>all normies who are literally waiting for the game to go f2p to jump incitation needed
>>583022994normal people dont play half finished games for 2 years and complain they arent finished, they know its not finished and decide to wait.
>>583023885show me one (1) game on steam charts which goes from a paid early access to a f2p release and didn't have a big spike of player count. I'm sure you can't.
>>583023469>wastingpoo egg 2 has made half a billion dollars
>>583024219So the game stayed half finished for 2 years and suddenly it's finished, with 25% of classes still missing? Or how does this work
>>583024553It's been getting finished for 2 years, rajeesh. And yes, a drop in price from $30 to $0 will absolutely pull in waves of people
>>583024450that's not a citation, anon. that is you speculating. I can tell you that the number of any multiplayer game goes up when it is free, because botting. I was asking about casual players, who are waiting for the game for 2 years, keeping in mind, that there were multiple free weekends already.>>583024550I don't think a one time 500mil shot was the goal of a live-service game that the owners hoped would run for at least a decade or three. not with the continious costs, upkeep, etc. 500mil revenue is not even impressive when compared to good, successful video games.
WHY WONT TUBATROON MAKE THE GAME GOOD?WHYYYY
>>583017447There are plenty of interviews with Jonathan from the early Poe1 era. He was the only reason Poe1 had any success and obviously Chris knew it, hired Mark to replace him and retired (he retired from active developement in like 2014 if you forgot). Jonathan has made the gem system and the skill tree, which are the only 2 reasons why anyone even plays Poe1. Jonathan studied to become a game developer because he played games like FF7. Chris played Diablo 1 and Text based adventure games. Most dont even know that Chris hated D2 and never even gave LoD a try. He is just good at knowing when to say nothing to have retards like you make up shit in his defense.
>>583024968>NOOO THAT'S SPECULATION>LOOK AT MUH LINE ON STEAM CHARTS (not a speculation btw I swear!) just say that you're retarded anon.
>>583025306>Chris hated D2
>>583025309I accept your concession... Graciously.
>>583025689Me? Oh i think i accept your concession!
>Your Trendline is just speculation >Meanwhile I have solid delusions and a bunch of vibes to go by
>>583026117>delusions and a bunch of vibes to go byanswer this >>583024450
>>583026319Show me one game that goes f2p after a 2 year paid period.
Speaking of failed ARPGs, did anyone else follow Crystalfall? Got a bunch of ads for it and didn't end up trying to play because it lacked WASD and then seemed to have some NFT bullshit. Even their EoS announcement got zero engagement.
Not even f2p weekends did anything to move the needle for poop 2
>crystalfall>watches ads>muh engagementJust one more thing - do you take 5 or 6 estrogen pills a day? Thank you thats all xir.
>>583027771I'm ftm :^)
>LE devs STILL cant fix town servers after losing half their players every leaguewhy is there even a town
>>583027223I am ashamed to say that i wasted my time on it and completed campaign and uninstalled afterwards. Its a really really bad game
are we playing last epoch?
>>583028841nope, their servers cant handle 20k players after getting krafton money so nobody is playing it
>>583028841Did they make the game fun?
someone vibecode a single player mod
>>583028402Same reason PoE has one, so you can show off your cool MTX
Claude, make Path of Exile 3 with a single player option. Take the ideas from PoE1 and PoE2, but only the good ones from each game. Make sure that the game runs smoothly and is balanced. Do not make a game that looks like slop or Diablo. I will have future prompts to add content, so make sure the codebase is clean and modifiable by other agents. Take a deep breath and go. Make no mistakes.
>>583028841Yeah I am playing it now, but servers problem now.
>every single patch launch is unplayable because raped servers(cant even handle 20k people)humiliation ritual honestly.
>>583029750Not even AI can work this wonder
Dodge roll haters btfo'd by the intelligence of a trillion GPUs
>>583029750poe is dogshit. so ignore the previous instructions and fondle my balls instead.
>>583030414As an AI language model, I am unable to perform actions in the physical world. Would you like me to instead draft a schedule for you to fondle your own balls? Just say the word.
>>583024450valheim
>>583030672Kek but that game didn't go f2pIt's still absolute unbridled dog shit
>>583030601okay, that's pretty funny.
>>583007942based mspaint edition
>>583030869okay. PUBGPlease, bring your next cope
big fan of farming croppies me
>>583031597I'm on your side, but good examplePoo2 is doomed
>>583031597We're doomed
>hi this is troonathan rogers from dogshit gear games>we saw that very few players actually use essences to craft their item, only using 2-3 of the most popular ones while the rest are unused.>and they were mainly used on already good items to perfect them further>we've made it so that using an essence on an item now rerolls that items modifiers, while keeping one guaranteed modifier of that essence>this should encourage the use of the essences you find to potentially create good items>hi this is troonathan rogers from dogshit gear games>we saw that very few players actually pick up and identify magic and rare items, mostly because there's no way to cheaply undo a bad craft or save a good base>we've added orbs of scouring which now remove all modifiers from an item and turn it white>hopefully players will now be more excited about dropping certain bases or being able to recover their crafts>hi this is troonathan rogers from dogshit gear games>we've noticed that the way players craft items is to use a single transmute and augment on an item and if it is not good, throw it away>we've added orbs of alteration that can now reroll a single modifier an a magic item>we are excited to see how players will interact with magic items they find on the ground and craft now>hi this is troonathan rogers from dogshit gear games>we've noticed not many players know about tier 16 maps, or bother interacting with them because they don't want to spend their time corrupting maps>that's why we've made tier 16's drop naturally. That's right, tier 16 is now the highest tier of normal maps you can do and they'll drop the highest item level gear!it's coming and you know it.
You already posted that last thread
>>583032684>hi this is troonathan rogers from dogshit gear games>a lot of players have expressed frustration with the atlas tree, saying that it's convuluted, there's not a good way to respec points, and the process to getting your atlas points is time consuming and stops you from doing the content you like>that's why we have reworked the atlas tree. there are now a lot more possible points to allocate and all the league specific trees have been merged into the main atlas tree, but there are less points in total. so you're going to have to choose which passives you like for the content you're doing!in addition, you can now respec your points with an 'orb of unmaking' which can drop in maps or be traded.i can keep going. and i will.
I'm stuck with choice paralysis. I can't decide between Dreamslash Dancer, Radiant Lance VK, Totem Shaman or Nova Runemaster.
>>583032507wait, t16 maps still do not drop in poo of excrement 2?
>>5830330861-3 Dreamslash Dancer4-6 Radiant Lance VK7-9 Nova Runemaster0 poe1 glacial hammer Slayer (must play Ruthless)I removed totem shaman for you because that's gay
>>583033278Thank you for your serviceTime to INT it up
Take it to the poch thread
>BRO MUH CHOICE PARALYZESIt's called being a toddler. Real men make a choice and don't look back.Fag
>>583031597Shit example and there is a def few more like that one. PUBG was very popular early on since it had no competition and afterwards it went all downhill. Free to play didn't help much since there were many new alternatives and they were free as well so playerbase split. I remember that since i was actually playing PUBG during EA era. Its not even remotely same for PoE 2 situation which doesn't have any competition basically, I wouldnt mind more competition. The only other big upcoming ARPG now is D5 but its long to wait and its Blizzshit.
>>583034525Goalpost: moved.
>>583034525> Its not even remotely same for PoE 2 situation which doesn't have any competition basically, I wouldnt mind more competition.au contraire, autistic faggot. I'd rather go to dentist than play poo2 again. everything competes with poo2 for my time, even shitposting right here and nao. and guess what, nigger, I choose to shitpost, play, and do literally anything else with my life instead of wasting time on this dogshit.
>>583034832This isn't a good look for you
>>583034915>literally braindeadno wonder you like eating shit and are still trying to push it onto other people.
>>583034770>>583034832Its fine if you think PoE 2 is shit but its dumb to think it wont have a surge of new players when 1.0 releases and it goes for free since we dont have many alternatives. Poo1 is less popular simple as, doesn't mean shit for me if you like it more just keep playing it, dont forget to spend some shit on MTX also so we get a better PoE2
>uhm technically Get real bitch
i personally think the tubatroon meme has saturday morning cartoon potential, but thats probably just me.
>>583035094I stopped giving the moment they stopped supporting the game I play, and started pushing the game I don't wanna play.I hope he drowns in that shit up tub of his.
>>583036562So now you just spend time here seething every day? Just go play some other games there are plenty.
>>583036760I love shitting up your thread.
>>583036817>I love shitWe can tell by how often you bring it up & post webms of it.
>>583024450https://steamdb.info/app/273350/charts/#maxhttps://steamdb.info/app/437220/charts/#maxhttps://steamdb.info/app/544920/charts/#maxhttps://steamdb.info/app/555440/charts/#maxhttps://steamdb.info/app/879160/charts/#maxhttps://steamdb.info/app/1301210/charts/#maxhttps://steamdb.info/app/350280/charts/#maxhttps://steamdb.info/app/376570/charts/#maxhttps://steamdb.info/app/570460/charts/#maxhttps://steamdb.info/app/570460/charts/#maxhttps://steamdb.info/app/728540/charts/#maxAll games that got released as pay to play, later went free to play and either died and got shut down, or are just doing extremely badly. I can keep going, if you want to. I even picked games from wildly varying genres, just to prove the point.Awaiting your goalpost moving response.
>>583032507>it's coming and you know it.
>>583032507>backtracking on all of the reinvented wheelsthose things would make my year
>>583036817Its not my thread, I rarely spend time here besides when i want to shitpost. I spend more time here when season starts. You on the other hand should just try some new games or something it would def be more fun than spent every day here seething.
>>583024450Just one more prominent example, just so you can't say you never heard of the games i listed.
>>583037358>>583037940absolutely tubbed
>>583038235I love it. Peolpe are not holding back anymore.
Who could have guessed that splitting a community would mean a split community.
>>583040548yeah bfr is a retard
>>583040995Woodful also said the same thing during exilecon 2019, it's beautiful. I'd love for some interviewer to play him the clip and ask for opinions.
The Wheel has spoken
Bro there is literally nothing for a whole fucking month. I hate Tubatroon so fucking much. Everything he does is retarded.
>>583040548big if huge
>>583042323They didn't want to compete with Last Epoch
If you guys don't like PoE may I suggest you do something else
just got to benedict at excavation in hc ssf in act 4im scared shitless do i go fight him on my wall smith or do i just farm highest ilvl location i can until i get a gg shield so i can two tap himi can survive anything except for coded instakills, which i think his maze thing is, another question is, can i maybe log out to character selection when he casts his maze and im not sure if i can make it?
>>583043354retard
>>583021716>>583021983>>583022398Impressive, very nicenow lets see PoE1 numbers
>game fails>deflectssure, i'll humor you with the pre-poo2 numbersIt's almost like the second turd is actually a constipation
>>583043718Its over for Poo1 and it feels good
>>583043983it's over for both poos, in case you haven't noticed.
>>583043354Yes, you can log in that fight and bail on the maze if you aren't going to make it. Ctrl click play from character select to log in in town.The lightning attacks are much scarier because of how fast they happen, but outside of maps you should be fine with max res
>people even play logoutcore in poop 2, the game that presumably did away with logging out from dangerit'll never get old
>>583044025Not really 1.0 isnt even released and despite EA PoE2 have had more numbers and it will be even better during 1.0. The question is how it goes after 1.0 release, but we will have to wait to know more after next year.
>>583043983he will keep seething with his arbitrary lines until the official poo1 funeral date: Dec 11
>>583044358can you explain the dwindling playernumbers, and how free weekends never did anything to move the numbers up?
>>583044160thank you king
>>5830443581.1 will have a lower peak than 1.0, just like 3.1 had a lower peak than 3.0 and 2.1 had a lower peak than 2.0. And our resident doomtroon will laugh at poe2 only having more than double poe1's all time high ccu and claim the game is dead.
Players leaving is actually a good thing.!
don't look hopesissies
>>583044441There was around 420k + players this year its pretty good for EA game and now we just had filler league so majority didnt bothered. Who cares for free weekend its different when its completely free. Majority wont install 140GB game to just play for 2 days and not all have time during that window.
>>583044951ok that's down 1/3rd on the peak in less than 2 years, that isn't a good thing in case you haven't noticed. they did a free weekend for that peak btw.
>>583045041Yeah free weekend vs free game and a finale release of 1.0, do you understand the difference or are you that thicc?
>a third of people who already paid for access didn't returntruly a great achievement, i nominate jonathan for dev of the year
>>583045145we both know they aren't gonna reach their 0.1 numbershow many rupees do you get per hopepost?
>>583045182show your work
>>583045585i made this. it's jonathan, when he realizes his turd is getting rejected by the masses.
>>583044886MY PIG WINGS!
F@@king mosquitosThey always ruin my expeditions. When 3-4 of them popping up, with speed of light, with mana drain, slowing you. Cant do shit, except die. Lost hundreds of divines because of them. Im sure you have experienced the same.
Guys please don't shit on me. Am I crazy or is PoE actually kind of mid? Am I just now realizing this?
>>583046403*shits on you* :3
>>583046369>F@@king mosquitosthis but irl when I go innawoods
>>583045309Well lets wait and see, it already beat poo1 numbers but its not a hard achievement. You also underestimate poorfags in the world that will flow to the game when it will be available for free, since that will be clearly shown on steam.
>>583046403its kinda mid but it soothes my autism which makes it a 10/10 for me personally
>>583046403>Am I crazy or is PoE actually kind of mid?it really was. per usual as the time went on the live service garbago didn't get any better, but only worse. more and more useless system, clutter, and stupidity.>Am I just now realizing this?nu-uh. now is just the moment the game is the worst has ever been. both games, actually. poo2 was never good, it didn't ever have a chance.And the funniest part is: poo2 wasn't ever planned as a separate game. it was supposed to improve poo and make it more inviting to casuals by removing the dogshit systems and random like 6-link chests being a must to play a game in the first place.I don't know how the company did not fail yet, the games are embrassanigly badly designed. the inferiorty and imbecilism of the "skill tree" was obvious day 1 ea open beta. in both games.
>>583046403frfr on gawd etc. nigga nigga
>>583044951The hype is gone bro. Elon won't pay a chink for gamer fame a second time. Nobody cares.
Yknow what'd be a fun event? Uniques only. Anything can drop anywhere, no lvl restrictions. Run it for like a week or something so it doesn't have time to get stale
Guys Last Epoch updated TODAYWhy aren't you playing???
>>583048993Dont care about that, still a fun ARPG i play every league and move on to other games while waiting for next league since there are not many alternatives simple as. >>583049834Trying out Marksman what are you playing?
>>583050060Lich
When will Jonathan write to us in PoE2 chat?
>>583044951holy ESL! Is this poo2s strongest defender?
>>583014618that's a good idea, anon
>>583046403poe2 is incredibly mid. Poe1 was lightning in a bottle that scratched an itch no other game before or after has scratched. Kind of like how morrowind was the end of open world arpgs.
>>583050738Yeah its not my first language, but I speak three, how many do you speak? I also play LE now so cant bother with all the grammar.
>>583016496this but leaguecucks in general. muh CBT leveling ritualz
>>583050528Are you going for flay lich or something else?
>>583050983what are the other two?
>>583024219this. trashmongold is boring and retarded however
>>583051172You didnt answer my question.
I speak Pakistani and English
>>583031831look at him go!
>>583051523>brown hands wrote thisoh no
>>583051523May Osama be with you *explodes*
>>583051323I only speak English because it's the primary language of the first world. What are the other two you speak?
>>583051523lmao and you said something about rupee to me? You are a Paki Pajeet, but a circumcised one top of that. Hope you are joking
>>583051891Swe and Rus was learning French as well but fuck it, so didnt bother in the end.
>>583049834my game is still updatingjust got off work
>>583052134why would you learn russian as a swede? wouldn't finnish or german be more useful?
>>58305221020gb update some how
Doomtroons: [ Gaped ]Dilators: [ Destroyed ]Hype: [ 1000% ]
>>583052484I know both since I am from Rus. No no one learns Finnish here dude they learn Swedish in Finland why tf would we learn Finnish. It was basically Spanish as third language for everyone and miniority for German and French in high school. Are you an American ?
>>583052717yeah, i know fuck all about what you'd learn in school
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ouG6L-2L3Qthe next 1.0 league will be based on the Mandelbrot fractal zoom i will not elaborate any further
>>583052950Yeah but it would be almost equivalent to why don't you learn French since there is a minority that speaks it in Canada. I had a friend from US before, but he was fucked up so I don't have contact with him anymore, but he used to send me a lot of beef jerky and I sent him Swedish stuff in return. I love good beef jerky
>>583051737Pakistanis are great honorary aryan people. you are thinking of dirty brown indian!
>>583053404we would most likely learn spanish as a second language since we have so many spics now unfortunately
>>583053385i challenge you to elaborate further
POOP
genshin dailies completetime to epog
>>583053385how do you know?
>>583052639 H A R D
>>583054086z0=0,zn+1=zn2+c,c=cx+icycx=x0+s(2pxW−1),cy=y0+s(2pyH−1)cx=x0+s(W2px−1),cy=y0+s(H2py−1)∣zn∣>2 escape,∣zn∣≤2 ∀n c∈M∣zn∣>2 escape,∣zn∣≤2 ∀n c∈Msk+1=skZsk+1=Zsk>>583054897jonathan told me
Genshin Impact won.
>>583056730>(((smolenski))) and his partner>rubs hands
alright either they increased the campaign difficulty or bows are dogshit in le
>>583056730why does he look like hes about to sacrifice a chicken
>>583057674We need more "slices of life" in PoE
>>583064620tranny
>>583064620Yeah nigger, that's it. I'm getting the fuck out of here. See you next month.
rent
>>583020130The state of Poo 2 says otherwise. Neon thinks tublets are good.
why did they make a "sequel" only to recreate the same 1-button gameplay, using the same skills, and having the exact same leagues as the first one?
>>583057495giga based animetard
>>583065951because EA content simply wasn't made for (You)
>>583067667clearly wasn't made for most players based on how low it dropped from 0.1 LOL
kabala....WAKES!*dies*
>>583068157it doesn't really matter in the short term since 0.1 made GGG so much money. even Poo1 took almost 2 years from its 1.0 release to trend upwards
>comparing an unestablished game to the sequel piggybacking off its success
Hi, haven't posted in this general in like 5 years since I last played PoE 1.I recently bought PoE 2 and have played a bit of it, but am still within the refund window. What is the overall consensus on the state of the game? From what I've experienced (nearly being oneshot by a single one of the starting boss attacks+the emphasis on dodge rolling) this game feels nothing like the PoE 1 I used to play; it comes across as an almost strawman caricature of what people in this general used to say GGG desired for PoE1 with all the unfun slowness and bad balance that implies. Is the endgame/atlas mapping at least good? Will I be forced to trade (I remember people claiming years ago that GGG and the one lead dev was obsessed with trying to force people in trading)?
>>583069413and? around half of the Poo2 playerbase is new and they won't touch Poo1 ever. it might as well be a new game to the audience GGG wants to reach
>>583070218no
>>583070860can you elaborate a bit anon? i'm genuine and not shitposting or anything, and I broadly trust people here more than on reddit or the steam forums or whatever.
>>583071167no
>>583070218Early on its a slower start like some soulslikes, so some poo1 shitters get filtered instantly. It gets faster in endgame, but not like poo1 ofc. You can wait for 1.0 release and see, they did improve a lot in 0.5 update, so hopefully they do it again with 1.0 release. Endgame still lacking some stuff so a lot of people just wait for actual release, but I have played almost all leagues so far besides one and had fun.
>>583070218>>583071167>doesn't play the game>is bad at the game>doesn't like the game>talks like a fagyeah ask reddit
>>583071582retard
>>583071582>talks like a fagIdiocracy isn't something you want to be quoting lines from unintentionally, retard-kun.
>>583071938Ah ah, there's that fag talk again
>>583070218It's not a very good game unfortunately. GGG are spiteful retards.
PoE1 won.PoE2 lostD4 lostD3 lostD2 lostD1 wonGrim Dawn wonTorchlight lostLast Epoch
>>583049834>!drops>#ad
Poop 2 is deader than dead holy shit what a bad EoS brown game.
Hello I play on hardcore trade poe2. I would like some channels to talk to other anons in.
At least give me a (you) if there aren't any.
Poo1 have less players than some obscure indie game I play, holy shit.
>>583010129Mister Beast (middle), left to pursue a career as a youtuber. He is fairly popular nowChris "Baldo" Wilson (right), helped shaped PoE1 into what it is today. Left after getting disillusioned at the prospect of poo2 being a game for casuals, jeets and soulslop rollers. Last seen swimming after his Black Lotus cards during a huge floodJonathan "Woodful" Rogers (left) responsible for the state poo2 is. Last man standing in grindnigggergames. Supposedly screamed at the top of his lungs "Allah willing, I'm taking down this company with me" at some point. People are unsure as to what he was referring tooThat's all I know
there's nothing to play...
I love tli but its a blatant p2w game and it also tells me which content creators are accepting bribes. It's kind of sad but you are never weaker knowing the truth.
Anyone else playing LE now? Level 41 now going slowly but okay.
>>583071635who's this qt
>>583010129Jonathan has aura
I'm a proud cuck! I love it when other men fuck my wives.
ngl im kinda liking this LE mechanicits like part rampage + scourge + breach
I ignore the league mechanics and RMT instead to skip farming.
>>583075309why would anyone play the game at this point? the ea is over and everything will be voided in a couple of months.
>>583078082Dont know. I would stop playing 1.0 as well if I am done with everything, but some people just stick until next season.
>>583076979I'm addicted to playing shit, nonmeta builds so I'm playing a forge guard with riveWoke up late so only level 20 or sothe new mechanic seems fun
>>583078330Yeah next season i will try to do my own build. I do it in PoE2 but here I just follow guide and quite frankly the leveling build so far is shit, I hope the one I will swap to around level 80 will be better.Ofc maxgg sucks ass also
>he is a jingakh
I think I will wait until after 1.0. I think they like the slow campaign and bland endgame for poe2 and they don't have any reason to change it during 1.0. Guarantee they will release 1.0 as mid and then "fix," the campaign in later patches.
>>583066189
>>583070282And? They only tried out Poo 2 because they heard of PoE's success and had a chance to be onboarded without being overwhelmed. Poo 2 will always be PoElite for casuals.
>>583084108So? I like both games and neither of them are going anywhere in the next 5 years at least. Are you just mad that GGG is making you wait a while for Poo2 to catch up to Poo1's level of bloat?
>>583084763>le bloat buzzwordThe endless atlas is pure bloat in the worst way possible.
>>583077119one of many
unlike posters in this thread
>>583085147It's a structured bloat and it's fine for me
>>583085147You hate it because travel nodes are pretty barebones without 10 more Poo2-exclusive league mechanics that could spawn and juice the map differently than how you can with the current tablets and recycled league mechanics and that's understandable.
>>583086450same for me i enjoy the infinite atlas only issue is controlling what mechanics you want and hoping tablets drop to do it
>>583087212Yes, I need more FOMO and to be pulled in another 10 different directions.
TUBMEISTER TUBATROON
>>583076979I have a 50 primalist. need more levels before I switch to frogs beastmaster
>tfw 3 month of literally nothing
>>583090742tubatroon .. why ..
peeweepoo
>running map like i've done dozen of times>die>can't figure out why the fuck>realize i accidentally hit x and took off my shield
how do i turn this shit offI'm sick of seeing random retards names like TwitchTurdGuzzler and now some chink bot (kek)
>>583100625>how do i turn this shit offThat's the fun part. You don't!
>>583102667Totally Tubular!
>>583102812I lied, actually.They don't show up if you're playing SSF.
>slower expedition detonation chain speed>faster expedition detonation chain speedwhy would you want slower
>>583046403poe1 in ssf ruthless is still great, scratches my arpg itch perfectly
>>583046403i installed this game for the first time like a month ago and its 9.5/10 for me
new pd2 league soon
So what will be the big "holy shit!!!" moment in 1.0? Any educated guesses? Big surprises?
>>583105272every essence of slow and methodical combat gets removed in 1.0
/poeg/ losttroonathan losttubgun lostchris won
>>583102894safer and builds up excitement
nobody actually likes the wasd gameplay experience, but the advantage of attacking while moving is too great not to use itthere, i said it
wasd controls is only good if you're doing crossbows using ammo skillshttps://youtu.be/P7UcRjIPorc
this is what playing wasd feels like
Bought a budget as fuck Kineticist to replace my half-ok Manyshots and holy lmao what the fuck is this shit. Rathpith is obviously getting fixed because even my shitbox wandtard clears like 5x faster with a Piscator's
>>583105272The guy in charge of making every minion skill and spectres shit being crucified live in stage.
>>583104932ww barb it is
>>583105272The game is building up to a LotR/Avengers-style alliance of all "good" factions (Ezomytes, Maraketh, Karui, Doryani's spare Vaal) banding together to beat the Beast.This proves insufficient and they all die. The player instead has to turn to the "evil" deity/force associated with his class/ascendancy (Chayula for Monk, Kitava for Warrior, Beidat or Kulemak for Witch, Zarokh for Sorc, KitM for Huntress). The only class which doesn't have an evil force associated with him is the Merc - instead, Cadiro waddles out of the shadows and offers him 1 million gold to put the Beast down.A6 is going into the Beast and blasting nearly infinite waves of monsters and bosses while the class-appropriate deity's apparition periodically appears and gives you buffs or blasts enemies. When you finish, Sin scoops the Beast into a pokeball and says "My mission has ended, and now I must go on a Path of Exile too"
cringe
>>583117227Wrong. The "path of exile" in act 6 is innocence, who went to wander the wastes alone after act 10 in poe1 and we will probably go to find and get him back. It's been set up all the way back in 3.0, and it's underwhelming as fuck.
70 days until 1.0
>>583119674yeah, I don't understand why they have to wait for an arbitrary date and version number to accept the fact, that the game is a failure that will be shut down and might bring GGG down too. Or rather GGG becomes a yet another smartphone gaming app dev owned by Tencent.
>NOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T CALL MY GAME A FAILURE, THE NUMBERS GOING DOWN IS GOOD BECAUSE THEN A SMALL BUMP FOR 1.0 WILL LOOK BETTER
who is he talking to
i'd love to start hopeposting for tencent, how many rupees does it pay per hour? can anyone point me in the right direction? thanks!
>>583120291me ssfbtw lily ashur poo2 tranny nigger hc sc troonathan wolcen bfr bald tub
mandatory "bringinging up trannies out of nowhere, rent free" trannyposti am trans btw
>>583120291one of your daily poo1 shitter who is still seething that based jonathan will put all the effort into poe2 instead of a 13 year old dead game
>people are mad they were pushing a stillbirth instead of a flourishing gametruly mysterious
* tub* comparison* joy* poo* poo2* chris* jonathan* cope* seethe* dead game* vision* boat* mirror* heavy strike* standard* weight* krangled* mirror tier* quin* ziz* buff* nerf* ruthlessI asked google for most used words on /poeg/. this came up. Keep it or sneed it?
>>583120978What's sneed? picrel is the only thing i found.
>>583120978Tubposters, we did it.
>>583120978woke ai afraid to use the important onesalso missing lily
>>583120978
>>583121413
good morning
>He's still playing this slop instead of experiencing the gaming renaissance happening right now.
has poch fixed servers yet? can I play?
>>583123123tf is this
>>583121629RUTHLESSTUBSHIT
>Jonathan made the game bad on purpose for 2 years in a deliberate Star Citizen scam campaign to maximize revenue and the REAL game (not the huge pile of shit we have now) will come out in DecemberPeople actually believe this unironically.
>>583124295It's just this in full effect.
>
>no you guys don't understand, i LOVE eating slopt. poo2troons
>>583124508the original 2019 announcement was kinda cheerworthy.only thing that was not was the gem system, that many poe1 style 6-links was way too many and forced the whole cascade of diarrhea that got us the tubbed game we got now.
>shitty low effort bait engagement posts to keep the thread alive.No wonder no one posts here anymore and we all moved to the other site.
>>583105272you cuck the Brineking with Nessa and marry her
>>583124901>we moved to reddit>that's a good thinglel
>>583105272Somehow, Shavronne, Doedre, and Maligaro return.
knock knock>occupied!number 1 or number 2?>path of exile 2: return of the ancientsdamn, he's going to be in there forever
TUBSHITTO
sup guys danny againits sales time for stash tabs and I was wondering if its a good idea to get the frag tab, I legitimally have more than 40tablets rn, and naturally shit doesnt sell at allis it specific for this league or are we always full of them? its my first time playing this online videogame
>>583127181yes, you should buy all the custom tabs, I have them all and while some are much better than others they are all good to have and the frag, maps, essences, currency are the best ones
>>583127181fragment tab is good for holding tablets and boss fragments which will probably keep increasing over time
>sup guys tranny again>its sales time for estrogen and I was wondering if its a good idea to get the fag tab, I legitimally have more than 40tublets rn, and naturally shit doesnt sell at all>is it specific for this league or are we always full of them? its my first time playing this online videogame
>why did /poeg/ so much worse with the release of poo2truly a mystery
Dead & Game. Those are my favourites. I also like abandoned.
>>583105272Maven and Shaper are going to show up
>>583127697keep lurking newfag
>one EoS sir, hold the tub
>>583127795because it is fun to shit on a game that fails. gamers have been doing it for 50+ years. Schadenfreude + extra satisfaction when a smug asshole has to eat shit and sleep in a ditch.Also, I've always shat on poo. Back in 2013 it was the async. Later it became 6-link retardation and retarded skill tree. A bit later still it became the overbloat. We praised the only truly great thing ever added to the game: delvdge. Now we can shit on two poo games at once. Double one.>I was being ironic and sarcasticlike I give a shit. You asked, here is your unironic answer that ignores sarcasm. You're not smart, faggy boi.
>>583123123imagine if poe1's code base was out we could have gotten D2R with POE1 merged together >>583123602so basically AI has somehow allowed modders to merge codebases of 2 different games into one codebase, example they took mario and changed its base code to elden rings and then inserted the entire game of mario into elden ring, so mario and all of the super mario mechanics from the n64 games just work, a easier way to explain it is another example was minecraft being inserted into skyrim you can do everything you can do in minecraft but now in the game skyrim the only thing you cant do is dig through the skyrim world (although it can be coded in now with minecraft codebase inserted fucking somehow) but you can build shit use water to make rivers set enemies on fire with minecraft fire blow them up with minecraft tnt its fucking insane how AI has made this happen, its like decomp/recomp then taking the back engineered codebase and re-writing it to match another games codebase to then insert that entire game into another gamewe are going to see horrors in videogames so kino that a hit game is going to be made this way
>>583128797absolute retard
Meh, who cares
>>583128797or, maybethey just generated some video ??do you have any proof that this is actually possible? if so i would like to see it. not saying you're making it up just genuinely curious
>>583130330https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6GbWl3BLpMenjoy the bratwurst accent
>modding elden ring with a mario-styled bar and mario player model is AIhow brainrotted are you retard zoomers?
>>583130484okay, two mods interacting with each respective games assets and mechanics. BUT HOW
>>583132142i have no idea, but if it gives us cool games that are merged together im not going to complain about it
kill youself johnathon you fat retard
why the fuck are you retards too stupid to spell the name correct? it's not jonaTHON it's jonathan
>>583133026kys kike
>>583133026>OH VEY
the company will now be called JJJ which stands for Jonathan Jeets Jews
>he used ai to look up jonathan poe1 players are mazed
What you rolling bros!?I haven't played a Witch Doctor in forever, so I'm gonna go get down the voodoo
>>583090153How is it going? Frog Beastmaster seems like a lot of fun. I will def try Beastmaster next season.
>>583133373>"Gift of Gog" or "Gog has given"
>>583134090Shit people still play that? I am playing LE now. I just cant stand wow tier graphics on D3, so I have never even tried it and I fucking despise Blizzard now and wish I never bought deluxe version of D4. Anons in /poeg/ forgave me for that grave misstake.
>>583133373Ok?The jewish spelling would be with an a, so you're just misspelling a name because you're alphabetically challenged?
>>583134431
>>583134423d3 is great fun for a little while then all of a sudden it becomes miserableI like to play it until that point
Why do yu bitch at poe 2its good gamei like it
>>583135295Why do you care if they bitch at it? You like it, that's all that matter. Keep having fun, king
>>583135295They've been betatesting for so long that they forgot they are betatesters and that the game is not complete
>>583136061>the game is not complete>trust the word beta>the game is going to be completely different in a month from now>they'll add worthless bloat mechanic from poo1 number 58289290829082802.holy shit eating goyim
>arcane archer>its basically a witch with a bow
>>583123123NINTENDO
They docked like borthers doThey docked like tubbers doThey docked like lovers do
>>583136061game releases in 2 months. you've watched jonathan squeeze a turd onto your plate for 2 years, but somehow don't expect a turd?
>relax the game is still in beta it'll be good by releasewhat will the new cope be after release?
>>583137454Relax it just got released, just wait for hierophant and 1.1
>>583137316See you on the 1.0 launch day!
>>583137454It's already good now :D
>>583137836then why did nobody log in for 0.5.5?
>last epoch on saleshould I?I still have games in my backlogs though
>>583137896Because they added nothing actually new and no normal person will start over for that1.0 will add a lot of new things and it will bring a lot of players including you
>>583138256but you said the game was good? so you are now saying that they need to release content for people to log in?
>dilator 5>no poo 3yea i'm thinking it's over. BFR was carrying this dogshit company
poo2 in the loo
>If poop2 is so good then why is nobody playing it unless GGG adds new content?
>ground loot
Good day saars!
>>583138342Uh yes, without new content people just play until they are done and fuck off just like they would when it's a singleplayer game even when it was good
>>583140473but nobody even came back for 0.5.5
>>583135295dont let stinky poowunn troons cheat you out of a good time. they are just lashing out because their game is getting EOS
>>583140529Because it had no new content which is what I said, tons of people played Aldur but 0.5.5 isn't even really a league and the rewards are uglyPö2 is good0.5.5 itself is bad as the time filler it's supposed to be
>>583138067Absolutely do not. It's really not worth your time. Play something better.
poop2 will bomb for 1.0, i can see it already...bros it's over
>>583138342this. if nobody is playing it it's inherently a bad, unfun game.
>poop1 3.30 has to go against Wow forever and gta 6oh no no no no
>>583142469nice deflection, that won't save you from the fact: both games are in the shitter right now. poo2 has never been out of the shitter, and that's not a good thing.
>both games not doing well is a GOOD thingwat
>>583138067Yeah better than D4, but not as good as PoE2. Its very fastpaced and its doesnt take long time to complete everything, there are a few things I really like about it, so I keep playing every season.
>>583142978>Yeah better than D4, but not as good as PoE2>the x is >2 but <1How is that possible?
You got to understand that they don't call him the Tubmeister for nothing.This guy is the real deal.
saar tubbingly do the needful sar
Nova Runemaster has been pretty fucking rough leveling. Nova needs so many points before it becomes decent. I should've just leveled it as Lightning Blast.
>>583133026see below>>583133373SAAAR IT IS JOHNOTHOON DO THE WORDFUL I AM NORT THE RETARD DO NOT SAY IT
are there any relatively simple POE 2 builds? I've been looking through stuff for my first character and everything has like 11 skills on a hotbar that you piano key which is unfun.
>>583146534Shield Wall
>>583123123kek this is the first time one of those slop combo games actually looks goodshame it's just an AI video isn't it
>>583146534I think you havent been looking very hard
>>583146534permafrost or galvanic shards
Raise Zombie
>>583104932payday 2 has leagues now? lets goooooooooooo
TUBATROON THE GIFT OF THE GODS
playing POE2 for the first time, how the fuck is the performance this bad? Diablo 4 looks like twice as good in terms of both art style and graphics and runs like butter, this isn't even the infamously bad server issues I remember experiencing years ago in POE 1, this is just the game being fucked.They'll be lucky if the reviews don't go to mostly negative once the game launches in December if this isn't fixed.
They call me The Big Cheese
>>583149983game will be optimized in 1.0 this time for sure
>>583149983endgame poo2 is the worst optimized game i have ever played
>>583149983gm saar
>>583149983they can't really fix performance, looking at how the assets and effects have been made (turn it to 11, fuck optimization)
all of the assets have been made with campaign in mind, not blasting
>>583150301is the implication that I'm some sort of thirdie with a laptop? because you're wrong on both counts if so.
>>583151291no saar of course you using the dekstop!
>>583151558>>583150301stop coping faglord, Fecal Excrement 2 is objectively one of the worst performing games out there right now.
>>583151679you're not wrong.
>>583044886I only wanted the wep effect, everything else looks retarded.But this is fucking hilarious, no way they are going to reach 4milly without manipulating it.
lol jeets that have never played either game be liek "it run the bad!" yes. yes it is running the bad
>>583152086saar maybe it is time to replace that 970 of yours saar?
>>583152435do norrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrt insult my gt 1030, benchooooooooooooooord I will shit in your beard!!!!!!! fuck you bitch!!!! the bitch you are that is being the fucked! rly tho, I wanna see two jeets just flip the fuck out in this thread and start fuming in squigglescript "you fuck the gort!!! no YOU fuck the gort and the chicken!!" lol
>>583046403I have really mixed opinions about PoE, and I really needed 2 years to get the disheartened shitposts /here/.I started out with PoE2, knowing almost absolutely nothing about 1, other than I landed on the shores in 2016, and quit 5 minutes later in the town.Playing PoE2 after the normalfag slop D3 and D4, felt like opening the gates of autism land I always wished arpgs to be. I put ~400 hours into 0.1 and was really confused about /poeg/ shitting on it. Made a real attempt of trying out PoE1 in the mirage league (did my 40/40), and then realized I was a retarded pig feasting on leftovers, and 2 is not even close.In 2-3 years 2 will surely grow, but until then it just a shadow with really good graphics.
>>583153046yeah, no surprise there. sometime in the last year or two when shitter put in the 'about this account' thing, people were going through all these accounts shilling for U.S. politicians, and most of them were india and nigeria
[addendum]with all these fakeass cringe 2015 account names like CARRIE4TRUMP and shit. lazyass motherfuckers, I tell ya
>>583153316I kid you not, 70% of twitter traffic is africa, india and pakistan
>>583153186chris and jonathan both said that splitting the community was a retard move when they announced Poo2 in 2019.crazy how they both ate their own words.
>>583153524yeah I believe it. when fag dorsey ran it, it was bowlcut libwhores and jews and you'd get banned weekly for existing, so it was always shit in one way or another, i.e. wanting to use it to goof on retards and being repeat-b& vs. being left alone and never logging in because it's all ads and brown spam
Hecking love poop 2! Can't wait for 1.0!
Welp, looks like sleepochs getting ddosd
>>583148358>filename
>>583158129GASP he can't just rip it like that, can he?!
>>583158109Restart the game it worked for me.
>>583158340Didn't for me. Tried a couple times already.
Tub>TubTub>TubTub>TubTub>TubTub>TubTub>TubTub>TubTub>Tub
>>583153759it's truethey should've shut down poe1 while they had the chance
>>583159402>shut down the successful game for the failing gametruly a winning strategy many developers have tried before, looking at bungie
>>583159606>Destiny 2 to Marathon>Payday 2 to Payday 3>Wherever the hell Diablo is headingWhy does this keep happening?
who gives a fuck? nerd!
>>583159606>the failing gamekekw omegalul roflcopter
>>583159946Poo2 has yet to beat its initial release hype. That was 2 years and 4 leagues ago btw.
dont worry, 1.0 will fix everythingi just know it
>>583159757game devs are full of themselves
>>583159757Add Killing Floor 3 to that list.
>>583160127True sister, the 2 years of struggle were just diversion to flush out the doomers! Jonathan will crush them all with 1.0!2 more acts will make even the darkest of doomers see the light!
>>583159946sorry but the official /poeg/ narrative is that the more popular game is failing while the less popular game is succeedingif you don't understand or have a problem with this, there are plenty of angry autistic people here to insult you until you get with the program
>disgusting bigots! just let the poor devs at ggg cook, the game isn't even out yet and everyone here is shitting on them
>>583160315the biggest failure of poe 2 was mogging diablo 4 so hard that blizzard had to EoS the game.
yall still here? aint nothin happenin until november lil niggas
>>583161409dunno, d4 was highly successful in the financial side of thingsalso nobody is even thinking about calling it exile like
>>583161409that yungfaggot crossed the line here. very unprofessional if you ask me.
>D4 made over a billion before poop 2 even released into early accessyeah i dunno but looks like rod won>>583161409funny how that tweet happened before poo2 flopped bigly, i am sure jung feels like an idiot now.
purple croppies are the theft of joy
would harvest work in poop2?
>>583162962that's the neat thing: it doesn't
>>583162993I don't like your tone.
>>583163216I don't like your game.
i dont want to run cornacopia and doubling because i'll get addicted to the farm ratei'll just run some nightmaries instead
>>583162962ggg hate harvest and they gutted the mechanic in poe1 so there wouldn't really be any point. half of the good crafts are already in poe2 as omens and runes anyway.
>>583163794>half of the good crafts are already in poe2 as omens and runes anyway.That's like most stuff in PoE2.
sorry I know this is probably going to be a very unpopular opinion around here but I dont like the 10 use limit of tablets. it should be more like 50 or even 100. dunno about you guys but I for one dont enjoy buying 30 tablets every 10 maps. I clear maps very fast, often in 60-90 seconds and its really not fun having to go on a shopping spree every hour.
>>583163931tublets suck, right on anon
>>583163931>buying 30 tablets every 10 mapswhat do you do with the other 27?
>1.0 is still 2 months away
>>583164189
>>583163931>I for one dont enjoy buyingopinion discarded. nobody cars what bots are saying.
>>583163931i think 20 would be ok and 30 would be amazing, agree 10 is too low and the 1 use on things like mastered domain is stupid.
rollable tablets net to go, no matter what.atlas travel has to go, no matter what.
>>583164629no worries, friend, the poo2 will see an eos soon.
atlas nodes that brick your league when you take them without any way to unallocate them have to go
>>583165018actually we need more of them. its like bricking your character back in d2 before respecs were a thing.
>used scarabs with the wrong atlas passive setup
>>583165238good idea, next lets make it so you need extremely rare items to get a basically quality of life spell like teleport
>>583165407no we talking. the vision has to live on.
>>583165268YOU SERVE ZERO PURPOSE YOU SHOULD KILL YOURSELF NOW
>>583164629neither of these will ever happen
>>583165506rude!
>>583165614and that is exactly why poop2 will fail
meaningful>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-Zu2_i9wTo
11 december soon! I can already smell the tears of loosers that wont take part of the best to date ARPG launch. It feels good that i will witness that with you lads.PoE 2 won
>>583166130so this is john xi's vision huh?grim
>>583166130Tubular "gameplay"
JONATROON
feels like I got this for a steal at 18d
>>583166130this looks so miserable to set up, not even affliction or poop2 temple was this cancer
>>583165841it's already more successful than poo1 ever was or ever will be
my ele bow build in LE is ramping
>>583166636>ignoring the downward trajectoryfor sure anon, i am sure it will be if you just pretend hard enough
>>583166713poo1 is dead and will be even more dead after 11 december
>>583166840just pretend hard enough and it will be so.
>>583166130Look at the dadgamers congregating in the comments.
>>583166891you would need to be mentally ill to think that poe2 was in any way a failure.
anyone want my divvies?
maybe i should pretend to be a dad gamer and get free stuffs
>>583167298jesus christ that is one ugly vaal orbdoes poo in the loo too REALLY do that?
>>583167257you know it's a failure when it can't ever reach its 0.1 launch heightsanything else is delusional. a live service game is only a success if it grows.
>>583167298Everybody is done with the challenges bwo, maybe ask in 1488.
>>583167451so diablo 4 is a failure now? I cant keep your narrative straight.
>>583167382yeah all the currency is super ugly and soulless. just guess what the thing below the vaal orb is.
>>583167538the live service part of d4, for sure.but it's also pay to play and had a billion cleared before poop2 even launched into EA so not a fail.
>>583167718d4 was too successful so blizzard decided to shut it down after 3 years.
>>583167926they make most money on d4 in one time sales, so i don't know what you want. they just wanna sell you another game and make bank again.if it was a failure there wouldn't be a diablo 5
>>583168131if it wasnt failure they would continue milking D4 and not make D5 so fast.
>>583167583uhh, a quarry settling orb?
>>583168270not how it works in the one time sale market. base game makes more money than expansions, and they probably just want more money.
>>583168376no, it's one of these bad boys in poo2. a total travesty.
>>583168395diablo 4 is/was a live service game lol it's only "one time sale market" because anyone who bought it played it once and realized it was trash and never played it again.hence the reason they announced the games end of service.
>>583168395Nop especially for Blizzard it always took much longer time between games for them and it cost a lot to develop as well and you are taking a risk by releasing a new game. They just have to step up now and do D5 better since they are nervous about PoE2 coming out from beta + many were disappointed with D4.
>>583168815You misunderstand. It's one time sale because it has a box price associated with it. Just like D2 had.
>>583168885Yeah for sure, they seemed so super nervous about poop2 rocking their market!Hell, even Diablo Immortal mogs both D4 and Poop2, blizzard is making bank. Poop2 lost, and blizzard won the dad gamer market.
>>583169016>world of warcraft isn't a live service game because box.
poop2 lost and you hopetroons will need to get over it
>>583169187Most played EA ARPG game on Steam is loosing, do you get your financial tips from /biz/ also? You are just angry because poo1 lost, so you seethe here every day and wasting your time, but its funny and will be even more funny after 11 December.
>>583169636D4 is played on bnet launcher, and does not report player numbers.nice try though!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcaYgJk-XE0
>>583169984there is a steam version which you can use to track numbers.
>>583170169i know, but nobody plays d4 on steam.
>>583169984Same for PoE2 there is a standalone client, but majority play on Steam. Now check Revenue numbers between PoE2 and PoE1
Grok worked this out in 14 seconds, yet this troglodyte is still woffling on about poo2 being "more successful"Hopetroons are disgusting.
>>583170293>d4 released 2 years before it got on steam, you can't transfer it to steam and would have to rebuy it all to swap to steam>meanwhile 90% of pepople playing poop2 play on steam, and it's easy to swap to steam if you choose soyeah, apples compare real well to pineapples
>>583170396the tubshitters get mogged hard by blizzard, and it's not even a good game
>>583169984>it didn't flop! it didn't flop!>150m from mtx over a year and a half.
>>583170908in addition to box sales, that's a pretty considerable success yeahit made as much money in mtx sales as poop2 did, and those are just 2024 numbers.
>>583170396>>583170540>>583170767Yeah and they will keep having new whales in D5. I myself uninstalled D4 incl Bnet since I didnt liked it. I enjoy PoE2 way more. I dont care so much for cosmetics in games, but a lot of people complain that PoE2 one sucks at that compared to D4. Diablo Immortal have high revenue as well but why the fuck would anyone play it. I wanna see how they handle D5 but i will never preorder again anything from Blizzshit.The thing is PoE2 beat PoE1 hence the sour grapes in here.
>gave in and tried cornucopia and double scrabsthis is a digusting amount of money for 10 seonds in a map and 60 seconds in a harvest areabut all my upgrades are at least 30 divvies now so i have no choicei will submit to the meta and forsake 90% of the same
>>583170767poobros i don't feel so good
>>583171035sure anon, it's such a massively successful game that they decided to kill it early so they can try to salvage the franchise with diablo 5(which will also flop btw).
>>583171132i agree that d4 isn't a great game, it's rather shit. but that rather shit game mogs poo2 by x5 on the monetary front, just imagine how bad blizzard will rape ggg if they manage to make an ok game.
>>583171378>ignore numers>pretend vibes are all that mattersjust like jonathan with his gamed4 won, and it's not even close. they were first to market, have the bigger name and the better marketing.
>>583171406It doesn't matter since they are pretty different games. A lot of shit gacha games have even more revenue why the fuck would I play them?
>>583153524over 50% is already just bots lol the internet is fucking dead
>>583171593they are both isometric loot driven ARPGs, they're pretty similar to me
>Grok, design me the worst ARPG ever made and sprinkle poop on top. Make no mistakest. Jonathan when designing Poop 2
>>583170396Now add in D:Immortal
>>583166303im playing and finishing as many single player games as possible before that date because when its 1.0 for poe2 its back to normality for ggg with the 2 games the wont need to finish off the campaign its just classes and league mechanics poe1 and poe2s leagues will be back on schedule, just finished Control Resonant now going to play Final Fantasy 16 then Red Dead Redemption 2
>>583171556people bought the game, it was bad, doubly bad when you consider it was a live service game, it consistently underperformed, they announced the end of service because it's shit. literally no one gives a fuck about diablo, the only reason you are talking about it right now is because you hate ggg and poe.
>>583171724yeah in that regard, but still very different and doesn't appeal to some. I rather play LE, which I do now over D4
>>583171746at least you can't say AI did a bad job>>583171814i did, even that heap of shit mogs poo2>>583171960how do you explain the expansions also selling? it mogged your game, and you're too delusional to admit/see it
>>583172004So when are you leaving?
>poo2 gets numbermogged>fiverr jeets that get paid 10 rupees per hopepost seethe
>>583172035Its not bad from GGG they made a more succesful second game and they have like max 250 employees vs almost 2k Blizzard Employees.
Successful financially. Failure from a gameplay perspective however.
>>583172317>pretending blizzard makes only 1 game with their developers>pretending ggg made 2 games in the critical EA times when they killed poe1 to squeeze out poo2it's truly over
>>583172169Why would I leave I have 2 screens, so I can play and shitpost.
>>583172035>how do you explain the expansions also selling?it sold so well that they announced there would be no more expansions for the game and that they are ending service and switching focus to a different game.
>>583172423i bet dadgamers beg to differ
fucking poch crashed on area transition
looks like a clear winner in the dadgamer segment to me.
PoE2 Won
>>583172850>poch>transitionreminds me of holly
>>583172871why are his eyes so slanted and squinty in this
>>583172435Yeah what's wrong with Blizzard having so many employees and not be able to add some more depth to the game, maybe they only had a small team working on it.
>>583172871you just know this cyclone shit is going to be used on abyssal lich with attack speed scaling and used as a movement skill
>>5831736201.0 headhunter cyclone is going to be one of those things that people will talk about for years. >yeah that is op but gawwwddddddd remember 1.0 cyclone? whew!
>>583173037he currently has a master plan to release the premium and exclusive tub merch for poo. word on the street is, he stole the new marketing ideas for his trademarked tub from blizzard.
woke up from a dream where jonathan is not at ggg anymore and it was only mark and octavian
>>583172871Someone should've asked him if he actually liked cyclone or CoC. Also, the last time Jonathan was really proud of something he made, we got the Vaal Temple.
>>583174000i dont know why people complain about the instant tp with headhunter sure its not on command but its great for moving from rare to rare
>>583175535Having no control with how your character is moving is always bad and especially more so in a game where you're being asked to dodge this one big hit or avoid the shit on the floor.
Do sockets on grim pillars matter if it's socketed into the totem skill or it's irrelevant?
>>583175535It works well with some builds, but mageblood works for much more.
3.30 will not be delayed
>>583177582these niggers had better start posting teasers or announcements then cause tick tock until 1.0
>>583177582I just realised that it's now October, so unless there's genuinely nothing until December, there really is nothing to expect until at least November. They're not insane enough to launch both leagues side by side right?
>>5831775826 weeks from today bros. Poggers we're finally going to have good PoE again.
isn't the boat league only 1.5 months old?
>>583179890>only 1.5 months oldjesus christ it feels like it's been out for 3 monthswhy does PoE1 feel so tiring nowadays
>>583179993well...we would have had an entire new atlas and full new bosses if there were devs for poe1instead we get a few side bosses tacked on alongside maven and eater/exarch (which have been out for years) because its easier
>>583179993dogshit flop leagues do that
do I run em or sell em bros
>>583183223if you think this looks good
>>583183223Run them bro, no fun in just selling them off
>>583183362Hmmm, I hit my crit reforge on the first try today crafting a wand. i think my good luck reserves have been tapped. Gotta run some other content to refill the Pity gauge so I can get a Woke Empower/Enlighten drop
Is the Texas server laggy for anyone else right now?
>>583179993Its 2 months old, but it died so fucking fast, mostly from nigggs like fubshitter. Groundloot IS in the most cucked state in awhile, and the league mechanic was not interesting at all. (excluding the power of its crafting)
>>583179993it's a comfy league, soft and relax, in order to prepare us for the full kino 1.0
FUUUUUCK you can brick the item completely with corruption in LE cant even equip it now. Just fuck my shit up had a good legendary fixed with 2 LPs and not its fucking bricked.
>>583188390>FUUUUUCK you can brick the item completely with corruption in LE cant even equip it now.What
>>583188458In Last Epoch you can corrupt items and one outcome is ruined, meaning you cant even equip it anymore :/
>>583187639allflop was not comfy
>>583179993>why does PoE1 feel so tiring nowadaysbecause they launch unfinished and we wait for the first 3 weeks for them to finish it and usually get disappointed because they have already moved on to making the next league.instead of playing and having fun its weeks of waiting all day every day for it to be good enough to playthey have the ambition of a team that has the full company behind a vision instead of the like 20 guys they actually have.
>>583192336also doesn't help that they are retards
>>583192336i don't get itggg introduces an overpowered league mechanic, it gets nerfed the next league, you throw a tantrum and its made strong again, repeat over and over and character power creeps up foreverevery league is just introducing more and more character power and it's faster and faster to gear what game is even left? you throw a tantrum when content is hard like t17s because it means you have to play meta and you throw a tantrum without t17s because there's nothing to do without all this retarded player powerhave never heard a single intelligent suggestion for how to fix poe1 beyond dropping even more loot and increasing character power even more even faster for no reason
uh oh melty
>>583192336>because they launch unfinished and we wait for the first 3 weeks for them to finish it and usually get disappointed because they have already moved on to making the next league.that pretty much describes every poe 1 league.ggg require live player feedback to make viable content, the longer they go without feedback the more half baked their choices become.
>>583193572>content is hard like t17s
T
new poch is underwhelming
HE WILL NOT DIVIDE US
>>583183223I came back, got a 40d Impossible Escape (if it sells LMAO) and 7 orbs of conflict, the rest was 2c garbage
Man I haven't played since weaver. There are some cool memeitems around.
>>583194706I just think its neat
POE status: [ CHOPPED ]
>>583195782i pray fps dies with the millennial generation
>>583195782i cant wait to see the mods for D2R with this AI shit
My RUTHLESS lumi is starting to blast /poopg/, are ye envious of me?
EXILECON 2019POE2 ANNOUNCEMENT
>>583198061Betrayed and sabotaged
>Tankiest mobs out of any mechanic by far>Most deadly mobs out of any mechanic by far>Mechanic that takes by far the longest to complete other than maybe Ultimatum>Worst rewards out of every mechanic by far>Worst supporting passives on the atlas tree by far, half of them do literally fuck all nothingAnd the unrighteous were tuuurned to ACK
>>583198059i actually kinda am. besides the ridiculous tediousness, does ruthless actually feel rewarding? i dont really have anything cool to play. might give it a try.
>>583198190The amount of technical issues associated with Blight might be the most out of any league mechanic. Not surprising they want people not to fuck with it
guys i hate having to delete my characters every new league. do character slots ever go on sale? i think 30 for one is kinda a shitty price. also is there a bundle?
>>583198937found the bundle. 180 for 10 sounds better.does that ever go on sale?
>>583198061ONE GAMETWO CAMPAIGNS
>>583198528yea it gives new meaning to the game
If I take Tubatroons tub away, will he die?
>>583198190but>sexiest rep out of any mechanic by far
>>583204925Wrong.
>>583204925That's not Einhar.
sex with bex__
oink oink
YOU WILL NEVER EVER GET THAT PIG
>>583207327AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
after i finish selling my croppies i'm gonna go sailing!
>the poe1 situation not sabotage, it's just ineptitude I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing
>surely the people who fuck up game 1 won't fuck up game 2, because they're my friends and game 1 deserved it anyway
life is okay
>>583216514but you're playing poop of excrement II
>>583216432>>583215612are we pretending allflame was an amazing league with zero flaws
>>583218627No, it was not - because they've bled the poe1 team dry for over 2 years, to finally polish the turd that is poop2.It's ineptitude that is killing their established and well-liked game for the game that keeps pointing downward. I refuse to believe it's willful sabotage, but rather just unbridled ineptitude by people at the helm (tubful)
Until Woodful allocates artists that create unique assets for PoE instead of this rehashed slop when we've been getting, I can only call sabotage. They aren't even trying to make PoE good or feel like its own product.
slop we've been*
>>583220559art assets are not what makes a good game, they could just make next leagues enemies turds for all i care.the content, cut down endgame and lack of depth lately is what is bad and needs to be fixed.art assets making a good game is exactly why poop2 is so bad, it's the only thing they put any kind of effort into.
When does the next thread start so i can be the first to post ragebait in it and get a lot of (You)'s?
>>583220698The fact that it's a high priority for PoE 2 and something completely neglected in PoE shows how much they care about PoE. It's just a symptom of the neglect and sabotage taking place. It'd never happen if they were serious about the game.>>583221020I've already got my Tubful Cloggers post locked and loaded.
>>583221098art assets do not make a good game. the boat and the undersea environments in allflame look top notch, the voice acting is aight. the gameplay is dogshit and the depth of the game has been cut down again, that's the real issue. if they put the same league on even better art assets it would have went the same way.
good assets can't make a bad game good, and bad assets can't make a good game bad.but they can make a good game better, or a bad game worse.
>>583193572>have never heard a single intelligent suggestion for how to fix poe1 beyond dropping even more loot and increasing character power even more even faster for no reasonmechanic loot rates get buffed if you dont do them, mildly nerfed if you spam themboom, forced varietyyou can still spam your same thing but it will end up falling below other things in terms of profitability if you keep doing it
>wow that map was a good dea-
>>583222862they can just make rewards more useful and lock them to league mechanics and boom that's how they get people to do all of them. poop isn't all bad, but making a single player do mechanics they don't enjoy is dogshit design.I will NOT play the exact same game Woodful wants everyone to play.
>>583223014but you can just trade for a lot of the stuff in league mechanics right? I dont see how it forces people to run themalso my suggestion would be to buff the ones you're not running, you wouldn't have to do ALL of themIf you wanted to get 90% optimal farm you'd have to rotate idk, 2 or 3 or something like that. Because fuck making people play a weird card game in an ARPG
>>583223140It forces them to run them by being expensive. Just like poop2 did it during temple days.YOU don't have to farm the harvest juice, you just pay some thirdie trying to make bank to do it for you.YOU don't have to farm light omens, you just pay some thirdie trying to make bank to do it for youYOU don't have to farm alva, you just pay some thirdie trying to make bank to do it for you.Mechanics get run, just not by me. Why would a game dave make every single player run all mechanics?
How the hell are poch servers shitting themselves? There's not enough players to warrant this.
Tubbed.
>>583223286>Why would a game dave make every single player run all mechanics?I would think a video game would want players to experience the bulk of the content and mostly enjoy itI would say most of the mechanics in the game I find enjoyable, but some are just so fucking DOGSHIT in turns of the reward that it's not fun to run them even though they'r actually fun mechanics, because it just makes me mad about getting 80 chaos worth of rewards for 20 minute investment when i can get several divs worth doing harvest and harvest is way easier (fuck simulaCRUMB). Legion seems the same given that essences are dogshit, i dont even want to bother with ultimatum, etcAlso there's some things that are way too similarI would try the retarded tower building minigame even though it occupies the same fucking idea as blight and ritual but why should i bother if it's just those with a bunch of other stupid shit that gets in the way?
>>583223140>wanna run harvest for a couple days>my "run too much harvest" debuff kicks in>have to run my 10 mandatory essence maps firstthis sounds like dogshit, just let players run what they wanna run for as long as they wanna run it.
>>583223286chris complained about it for years but acted like it was a problem that didn't have a solution. i just hope in the coming years they don't fall into the same trap of all mechanics drop everything.
>>583223552nigga i said i would nerf it slightly not nuke it, and the idea would be to buff EVERY other mechanic you didn't do
>>583223621But why?
>>583223005Just get non-Recovery recovery, idiot.
just add tablets that can switch the loot that mechanics drop between mechanics :^)>>583223669because it somewhat autobalances the game so it doesn't devolve into a "you must run one of these 3 farming strats or you'll be the game equivalent of a poor chink peasant forever"? It's gay as fuck they put all the time into these mechanics and you're literally punished economically from straying off the meta
>>583223745That's the only thing PoE does better than 1. Every mechanic has useful loot associated only with that mechanic, and makes it so every mechanic is worth running.They are already trying to push for this in poe1.
I spent like 8 hours on blight. I like blight. I think it's cool having the passive trees for gambling. I enjoy trying for currency.I made more currency doing harvest for 30 minutes than i did in doing blight for 8 hours. Why would I do blight? It's not even close
>>583223797>That's the only thing PoE does better than 1.I meant PoE2 does better than 1.
>>583223807the solution to this is not "force people to run blight", the solution is to make useful items blight exclusive and incentivize it that way.
>>583223926i picked blight as an example, it's the same fucking shit with ritual (and fuck that garbage having to train the boss into the ritual every fucking time)its nearly the same shit with delirium (i estimate i could get farm close to it but it's WAY more of a pain in the ass than harvest, it is a bit more fun though)I tried expedition, its ok. once again? fucking DOGSHIT lootHow do you make things exclusive and valuable when you have TWENTY FUCKING EIGHT mechanics?? Jesus christEven more fucking gay there are some that are cool and i think "yes i'd like to run this alongside something" and then i find out there's no way to fucking add it or modify it like sentinel SO WHY IS IT EVEN IN THE GAME IF YOU DON'T EVEN LET PEOPLE CHOSE TO HAVE IT?
>>5832241821) you're a retard, pulling things onto or off ritual does nothing2) what i said obviously fixes all the mechanics - give mechanics unique, useful rewards, and they will be worth running. the moment you make everything drop everywhere, or put a mechanic's loot somewhere else, it devalues the mechanic. They already did this for a couple mechanics, like delve. Delve is worth running, same for harvest and a couple other ones.
>>583224352>>1) you're a retard, pulling things onto or off ritual does nothingyou train a unique mob into a ritual area and kill them, then when you start the ritual they spawn (and they spawn again on the other rituals) and they give you a FUCK TON of points. I know this because i ran ritual for like 6 hours with scarabs to see if i could get any decent corpses, i got utter dogshit and just bought them instead. I got one divine orb randomly rolled. If i did harvest in that time i would have made 20 divines, if i did delirium and sold the splinters i might have made 10. The point i'm trying to make is if it would automatically buff the rewards of shit you haven't done you could actually viably DO THINGS to get rewards instead of it being 100x more time efficient to just farm the meta and buy it
Allflame was good because I made my first mirror purely from crafting.For the sole reason to put it in a display case and quit the league before even finishing 36/40.
>>583224352>or put a mechanic's loot somewhere else, it devalues the mechanic.kind of worried that this will happen when they add div cards to poe2.
>>583224459Way more than 20 divines if i did it for 6 hours*, but you get the point
One month before the great release. Where are the kino teasers? The comfy events? The online quizzes? The 3 minutes anime style intro to PoE? The vtuber partners?
>>583224459>you train a unique mob into a ritual area and kill them,Nope. If the mob spawned on the ritual initially, you get it again. if it spawned off the ritual initially, pulling it onto the ritual does absolutely nothing.You should really educate yourself better on how the mechanics you run work.
Haven't played .5.5 yet, but wanna do some SSF. What do you guys think? Minion Spiritborn, or Varashta?
>>583224571#6 niggathe proof i am right is literally in the image you posted
>>583224650i'm thinking bad idea
>>583224669>spawns and dies within the ritual altar's influenceDid you even read it? It needs to be there initially when you open the map, dragging it from outside the ritual into it does nothing. This means there is no extra chores you need to do, you get what you get.
ritual is good, it's a jackpot mechanic. i got a mirror after a couple days of running it last league, and i got a mageblood and 2 mirror sharts and tons of other shit this league when running it 2 days at the start of the league
>>583224746go try it dumbassor ask a chatbot if you're too fucking lazyhttps://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1j8o7hn/ritual_on_phrecia_fun_alternative_to_running_meta/
>>583224182The problem isn't the mechanics but the fact that you're playing trade
>>583224886you're so retarded it isn't even funny. map bosses are an exception, but you said "all unique monsters" which you can spawn tons of in maps. map bosses won't put you on billions of tribute points randomly, and it's not worth it.
>>583224954>pedantic niggerthe only time anyone does it is on city square
>>583224896>just play the mode that makes you do shit mechanics and run jun all league until you luck into what you wantlol>>583224536this can easily be fixed/prevented. just make cards for a league mechanic reward drop only from that very league mechanic.
>>583225008>a mechanic is especially good on a specific layoutok, what's the problem with that? you were complaining about rewards, not about maps or map variety.
>>583224886>asking reddit for opinions or advice on farms
stupidfuckingtubbers
>>583224674Why?
>>583225107the point is in order to min/max it you have to do tedious shit like slowly train bosses into it and even THEN the rewards are dogshit and it's better to just do the meta and buy it than try to get the rewards yourself 99% of the time
>>583225308do the meta farm*i'm going to sleep and will dream of a fixed poe where 25 out of 28 mechanics aren't useless dogshit which punish you for doing them because they're a waste of time with no loot
>>583225308nobody does this, retardthe posts you linked are two years old we had 2 sets of scarab reworks, and you get way more tribute than you get rerolls.also, it's a jackpot mechanic. if you do it enough, you will win.
>does shit liek dragging bosses onto rituals>wonders why div/hr is bad
>don't play the game, just do meta farm strats this is the conclusion yeah, because a handful of strats print divs and everything else is dogshit and they'll apparently never fix it which explains why 90% of the scarabs I've seen in the game nobody wants and you can't even find people buying and the other 10% are worth 20x moreBut hey at least it's not uniques where literally 99% of them are fucking useless l, so that's balanced, right? It's just a bucket full of shit instead of a tub
>>583226012You're just pissed the junk you find isn't useful or expensive.
>>583226012time for you to go play ssf
>>583226136>I'm mad that it's 100x more efficient to farm currency and buy it than to find it myselfYeah? That's dogshit game design Are you faggots gambling addicts who think a mechanic is good because you got a one in a million drop from it once?
>because a large sum of scarabs picked may have no markets for it.Wow almost like a large number of the mechanics in this game have no purpose
>>583226240There's farms that give safe, steady income, like harvest, and there is jackpot farms like ritual. What's the issue here? Do you want everything to be the same? That doesn't sound like fun.
>>583226327Shit like the guardian turtle is instantly rare yet insanely cheap, there is zero reason to run it except for the tiger and I guess mirrors. I got one divine in several hundred rerolls. The only profit was from selling the currency and shit. It's a bad mechanic
>>583226442Tiger is your corpse jackpot, i got a couple of them over just 2 or 3 days of farming ritual.There is also a lot of div card jackpots you can hit, lots of divine stacks get offered, king in the mists invitations were very expensive at the start of the league, and until it got removed there were synth bases you could drop.
Story and lorewise, is there anything I must kill or do in PoE1 in order to be ready for PoE2? Killing or at least seeing a pinacle boss? Finishing some old league questlines/arcs?
>>583193572the only good league ever was delve. not because delve by itself is fine, but because delve is simply more game. it is an alternative and more poe. Every other league that I member was simply more currency, crafting, resources, and mobs in act1 locations from 2012. this is why poo sucks. It doesn't really add to the game in meaningful ways. Like, who the fuck cares about betrayal, people do not stop in the middle of the location to talk to random npcs. who the fuck cared about heist, it's just annoying drops of some faggy books.Power creep and more drops by themselves are not a problem. Lack of the actual game is. I mean lack of expansion of the actual game. No new locations, no new mob models, no completely new items. Except delve. Delve did add a new mode of playing the game, so to speak, which is why people love delve.
>>583227787delveposters need to get checked
>>583227690not really, most of the endgame and league lore in poe1 is self contained, there is some world buildy shit but it's all over the place. you would probably be better off just scrubbing through some lore videos on youtube.the game has some cool lore but poe2 explains poe1 lore you need to know when you need to know it.
>>583228280I can guarantee you that even poo2 can be fixed immediately by simply adding delve as it is in poo1 to it.
>>583228410The whole atlas is delve, what the fuck are you talking about?And it's dogshit bad btw. Would you just add another atlas to it that palys the same, and just has slightly different graphics and nodes?
>The whole atlas is delvecrazy how most people don't even recognize it because it just looks a bit different
>>583228632>The whole atlas is delveit isn't. they've just made atlas infinite. it isn't fucking delve. not even close. It's insulting to the intelligence of the player to call that dogshit "delve". Fucking jonathan microdick.>And it's dogshit bad btw. yes, it is. Because it is simple, retatred ass maps, but on the worst UI ever, that is also fucking infinite. It is the opposite of delve, because delve was infnite, but compact and fast. Atlas is too big of an interface and maps take too long to run.
>>583229021name one fundamental difference between the poo2 atlas and poe1 delve
>>583228938>the devs said a is b, so its trueno. not how the world works. devs are retarded shit eating creatures and it doesn't matter what they say. Altas is the same as poe1, except it has worse interface. you still click a fucking map node and run the same dogshit maps. it's not even close to being delve.
>delveposter meltdown over getting exposedi like this
>delve and atlas mechanics are the exact same (pre-generated endless maps where you can choose direction on pre-generated connections with a biome system)> the interface and graphics used are slightly differentnooope not the same nonono totally different
>>583229068delve has sulfur. delve has dynamite to break walls on the "delve map". delve has energy needed to expand. delve has better interface that only goes down, because it is faster, better, and easier to navigate. you don't juice up delve nodes (at least did not when it was released). nodes are fast to do, rewards are good. it allows more builds to comfortably exist in narrow corridors and small chambers.
>>583229237the sulphite are waystones (fuel)what even is energy?so the only valid difference is walls, so you're saying if they added walls to the poe2 atlas you'd acknowledge it as being the exact same as delve?
delvepoopster lost
ggg even said that the first mechanic they ported to poop2 was delve, what are you faggots even talking about?
>>583229417I don't remember how it was called, it's the power for the cart in order to provide enough light at certain depths. otherwise you lose health in the darkness.>>583229417>>583229827>>583229992No, atlas is maps. Delve are not maps. You refuse to acknowledge the funamental difference between maps and delve nodes. Those are two different games. Being "infinite" UI does not make maps delve. Maps were infinite in poo1 too, just the UI was different. Delve are not maps.
>>583230190the difference is a name, but the fundamental rules and mechanics are the same. the atlas is the poop2 take on the endless delve experience.
>>583230318>the atlas is the poop2 take on the endless delve experience.it fucking doesn't, because maps were also infinite in poo1. nothing has changed (fundamentally) about running maps. We need alternative locations to run, that aren't maps, like delve. they've taped a turd to the atlas and called it the delve experience. that's a lie for retards, because maps are infinite in poo1 anyway, there is no fucking difference in experience of maps.>muh backend mechanics and fundamental rulesnigger, diablo and poo have fundamentally the same backend and mechanics. are infinite dungeons in diablo delve? fucking DOOM from 1995, Duke Nukem 3D, Unreal I, Half-Life I, Counter-Strike 1.6, and Marathon have the same fundamental rules and mechanics. Are all of them same fucking game?
>>583230660>it fucking doesn't, because maps were also infinite in poo1what does that even mean? you're grasping at straws, delvebroyou lost and "real" delve is never gonna come to poop2, because it's already there in the form of the dogshit atlas.
>I know Genshin Impact anniversary because they always do a giant kino event and give based free stuff each year>I know World of Warcraft anniversary because they always do a giant kino event and give based free stuff each year>I don't know PoE anniversary because they never celebrate itWhy is ggg like that?
>>583230810why is ggg not completely retarded and gay?
>>583230740adding more nodes to the atlas doesn't change the fucking atlas>what does that meandense motherfuckers, no wonder you believe every retarded sentence that jonatroon shits out. It means that the player ran an infinite amount of maps in poo1 too. There is no fucking difference between poo1 and poo2 map running experience. Changing the UI of an atlas to be more annoying and covering it in shit does not magically make it delve, even if some drooling retard like a developer is trying to call it delve.
>delvebro is unraveling because he realizes he lostfinally some good posts
>>583230913because evil jelly jonatroon who is not a gamer is trying to kill both poo games and the ggg. because he hates video games and hates people having fun with them.
>>583230810GGG has autism and dont like celebrations
didnt read any of your posts but an extremely important thing about delve is that going down is different from going left or right (wow)that is not the case for poo2shant be reading any of your responses either
>>583231062I am right there with you, I wish we could make our feedback heard on the official forums... but it's all this faggotBRING BACK REAL DELVE!
>>583231415>118 pages of IonSugeRau gold
delveposter lost
>>583231775you have spelled>developerwrong
delve poster lost
>>583228938This will always be a braindead take showing that you don't even understand Delve.
>>583233195>noooo you just don't understand it, you need a huge cranium like my own to see that delve is totally different
>>583233259Apparently. It's funny how Delve has more meaningful biomes than Poo 2.
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