>What the heck is this/indie/ is the general for all indie games, such as Age of Decadence, A Hat in Time, Axiom Verge, Baba Is You, Battle Brothers, Battlerite, Card City Nights 2, Cave Story, CrossCode, Cultist Simulator, Darkwood, DashBored, Dead Cells, The Desolate Hope, Disco Elysium, Environmental Station Alpha, FTL, Guacamelee!, Hollow Knight, Knytt, LISA, Lobotomy Corp, Machinarium, Middens, Monolith, Monster Train, Noita, OFF, OneShot, Rimworld, Rain World, Slap City, Slay the Spire, Starsector, Subnautica, Sunless Skies, Tooth and Tail, Underrail, VA-11 HALL-A, Yume Nikki, etc., as well as other games that just don't fit in any other general such as Atelier, Pillars of Eternity, Rayman, and Valkyria Chronicles. /jrpg/ is welcome. Idle games are cool too.Mobile or consoles, Flash or Unity, freeware or early access. This place is a home for the indie game community and indie and obscure games that don't have a home. So be free to talk and share all your hidden gems, forgotten games and starving devs here.>Can I talk about games that already have a general?We mostly discuss games that are not popular enough for their own threads, however, all indie games are allowed. So talk about them if you want, but don't overdo it since you already have other generals for that.>Recommendationshttps://pastebin.com/ZbG0JPSn (embed)>Booruhttps://indiegame.booru.org/>Steam Grouphttps://steamcommunity.com/groups/indiegamesgeneral>OP's pastebin:https://pastebin.com/JqqcnEHCPrevious thread: >>582204193
Ah, Earth Dancer! Your dance has brought me joy and happiness. In gratitude, allow me to bestow upon you this recipe.
Gaze upon my graveyard and despair, for you will never be buried in such a magnificent place!
I just played a Doom map with over 150 enemies. It was exclusively Pain Elementals and Archviles.I don't know whether to kill the mapper or myself.
>>583095662At least Pain Elementals don't respawn.
rivage is annoying me
Has anyone tried Okko the Exiled yet? It came out like 2 days ago. Even though it looks interesting and has positive reviews so far, the game unfortunately doesn't have one of those 10-20 percent off launch sales, so I'm being extra cautious about whether I should get it.https://store.steampowered.com/app/3479420/Okko_The_Exiled/
>>583060304I suppose that is relatively less gay.
>>583072912gemcraft is probably alright I mena it's 80% off, it's probably like 2 bucks, and it's a fun game
>>583101663I've also got it wishlisted but rarely get shit on release these days.
>>583072912Gemcraft is greatCreeper World IXE is the only one in the series i didn't play, report backFrostpunk is fine for a playthrough.
stop dying
First time i've ever seen a game with a fucked up cropped menu
>>583112119Haven't played that many games, huh?
Indie Sonic-Like vibes
>>583112119what is that gallery icon?
>>583112358paint brush.
what
>>583112520I think your paintbrush has autism.
>>583112301>Spark the Electric Jester devsAhAlso ass
>>583112031I'm WORKING
>>583113067how much?
>looking for puzzle games>case of the golden idol gets top reviews>try the demo>two first cases are ez, let's go>third case got me fucked upfun crime solving game
>>583091326>all these mismatched art stylesindie games were a mistake
>>583117410that's suikoden
>>583117607FuckMaybe Japan was a mistakeThey should have used more bombs
>>583117738octopath was a mistake I think.
Why are the Salamanders the only lizard with a Steam Trading card. When they are uniquely prone to bugging out and getting stuck.
>>583118886why were you not aborted
>>583115583this much
>>583113067those background guys look like they came out of GTA3
>>583119540no like, how much per houralso hummuna
my god I love titties and assass and titties
>>583119540TOO OLD
I think this is the end of my Hunter runNo I just checked the interactive map. The other 5P to Exterior gate is 1 karma on either end. I just need to climb, the wall in one cycle with enough time to swim to 5 pebbles and the echo up there.
>>583087260I think your tie is ugly.
>>583126148why is she showing her butt like that
>>583127595To impress me, so I 'press her in return.
>>583127595She's showing off outfits that you can buy in the ingame shop.
>>583127312You need a grapple worm here. There are two in the yellow lizard room. I don't know why I didn't turn around. And tried to jump to the second platform and spear the wall.
Getting kynseed. Don't know anything about it. Just heard it was a "life-sim" rather than a "farm-sim", that it's made by a former fable designer and that you play multiple generation of the same family.Wish me fun!
>>583127312>lowest karmamaybe stop sucking
>>583130331The electricity was starting as I slid into the shelter.
>>583139456>I didn't eat anything this runFUCK
bro I said *stop* sucking
...huh?Heck's the "New Sith War"?
>>583139626I have gotten worse at this room, I used to be able to consistently kill the red spider. Why didn't I eat any of the lizards I killed.
Those massive Empire at War overhauls, not having multiplayer campaign made me want to die.
this guy makes me want to boot up my hunter run
>>583091326Niko...
I haven't gotten anything from the steam sale yet, nothing's really caught my eye. Might try to break my habit of buying a bunch of fiddly cheap shit and just spend $20 on something that isn't ass.
>>583154886try wooden ocean
>>583156482
They are scared of the grind.
how's grim dawn and its expansions?kinda thinking about grabbing that during the sale.
>>583162816>how's grim dawn and its expansions?The closest thing to Diablo 3 we will ever get.Well worth every single cent. Use Item Assistance to avoid having to use mule characters.
this is what i got in the sale so far
>>583164405alpha and iota looks sick
>>583162816Very solid but it's chock full of fiddly bullshit and if it's anything like it used to be a lot of stuff that's important at endgame can be locked by faction quests, so sometimes you have to route what path you pick through sidequests on each ascension so that you can ferret through them for crap you won't need for 100 hours. Chronicon is another really solid ARPG, just got even more DLC this week.
>>583162816I will never trust a company that puts the main game on sale for 99.99999999999999% off and then sells the rest of the game via DLCs for full price.
bump
Play the inkblood demo, it has a little girl in it.https://store.steampowered.com/app/4114100/Inkblood/
please..
>>583156482It's unironically good.
>add a bunch of games to cart>don't buy anything>boot up stardew valleymaybe tomorrow
https://www.nexusmods.com/graveyardkeeper2/mods/295>more than 400 days in-game>see all this bugfixes>a day lasts 7.5 minutes>50 hours in total>minus a third of the in-game day sleeping is AT LEAST 33 and half hours>not counting the in-game days I boosted through with food>so probably more than 33 hours
>>583168538Silly argument. The DLC does go on sale, and it's good to make the base game cheap to let people try it out.
>>583190743It's bait, to hook in suckers. The highest a DLC for Grim Yawn has ever been is 60% off. Anyone who worms his way into the deep discount category without discounting his DLCs with deep discount is a snake, and you're a faggot if you defend such practices. If you want people to try your game out - release a demo. Do not make me suffer any more of your hebrew nonsense.
yay, first year
fuck you
I've had the Battlefield 1942 theme stuck in my head for three days.
>>583156770>I found you, SHAM!>Sham? Why you're the real sham around here! What gave you the right to say that?>Fair enoughI don't know why I think of that every time I see the xion vs riku scene.
yeah
ive been stuck on this level for weeksno worse feeling
>>583191251>The highest a DLC for Grim Yawn has ever been is 60% off.I can get all DLC, not just for that game, at 100% off and not feel in the least bit guilty because I already own the base game.If a company refuses to give a proper discount for DLC, it is your duty to pirate it. You already own the base game so it's fine, what you paid for that main game is not your concern.I'm probably the most anti-piracy guy here. You'd probably accuse me of sucking dev cock on any other day.
>>583191251>ran out of arguments>went for "agree with me or you're jewish"
>>583162816I love Grim Dawn but haven't got Fangs of Asterkarn yet because it's overpriced and the content doesn't interest me.Base game + Ashes of Malmouth + Forgotten Gods are all well worth it though.
Videogames :D
Did anyone play Garage, bad dream adventure? Is it better to play the original with the fan translation or buy the steam version that added a bunch of stuff?
>>583227272I heard rumours about this game, and damn. Is it as weird as it looks?
There is something impacting my ability to have fun with games. I just feel sort of numb about everything.
>>583230852Is that depression?
>>583231075Maybe, or burnout from irl stuff, or porn addiction. Idk.
>>583231684>burnout from irl stuffThat's literally depression, though.
>>583227272IIRC the two version are different only in terms of graphics and some added content.The only bad thing of the HD PC version is that it's a smartphone port so the UI is clearly built for touchscreen and the text font is godawful.Apart from that i'd say play the HD version.
>>583163471>>583218938cool, jumping in then.The 2 class system always sounded cool to me.Can you make anything work or should I at least rub my two braincells together for a little bit to come up with a sensible combination? I mean they put a custom name for each combination so i feel like they want all to be played.
>>583239560Apostate (Inquisitor + Necromancer) is pretty weak, but they generally did a good job of giving every class some universally desirable skills so most combinations are B+ tier at worst.
>>583214738Wasn't relevant to the topic. Besides, if it's not worth my money - it's not worth my time. >>583214878>Is presented with arguments>Claims they don't existHeard that before somewhere. Either way, I accept your concession.
>>58325069010 hours to come up with that weak ass repartee? Damn, American education hard at work, huh...
>40k on steamwtf...Any recommendations for autobattlers or similar idle games?https://store.steampowered.com/app/4623570/Deskrawl_Idle_ARPG/
>>583255948Do you want games that play themselves for you, or do you just enjoy the idea of an autobattler because you have to plan and strategize around your lack of direct control? I'm asking because there is this creature collector autobattler called Botworld Odyssey and it's really cool and fun and engaging, but you actually need to think about what you do, who and where you deploy, which support skills you use, etc. It won't play itself for you.
>>583256472you need help.
>>583256716The later, just want to strategize around lack of control.
>>583256910I accept your concession for the second time.>>583257095Based, the best kind of idle player. Ye, then try Botworld Odyssey, it's actually pretty good at it. Has a demo as well.https://store.steampowered.com/app/2936030/Botworld_Odyssey/This also has a demo. Though I wasn't particularly impressed with it. It seems like it has a lot of potential for synergy-building, but it's very autistic and filled to the brim with number vomit.https://store.steampowered.com/app/3816000/Flowers_and_Deities/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_oAeijW9yclooks like lunacid has a little sister, at least as far as artstyle is concerned.
>>583258451Don't soil these poor bastard's name with Troonacid's mention unless they are equally as retarded and obnoxious as Kira.
>>583258451why don't you guys start a youtube channel to review indie games?
>>583119540BRAAAAAP
looking for detective gamesjust got case of the golden idol and it's very interesting, i like its gameplay setup it's but also way too fucking difficult
>>583264551Disco Elysium
>>583250841You struck a massive nerve, he's malding.
>>583265101might give that one a chance againgot filterede by giga nigga up on the bridge last time
>>583256716>Botworld OdysseyNot him, but I LOVE playing Total War games, while never fighting the battles directly, does that help? I just like setting up the economy and building up towns.
>>583264551Sherlock Holmes vs Jack the Ripper.I'm serious, it's fun.
any games like overlooting?
>>583266424I won't be able to help, my brand of idle/autobattle games is the same as his - I want to be involved, I don't want things to play themselves.
>>583267659Stuff like Oriental Empires or Dominions is up my alley, even if Dominions lacks in actual building.
>>583255948>>583267659I'd recommend CoE5 for autobattling.Where its mostly used as a gimmick so you can have battles with hundreds or trash mobs if needs be, where all overworld movement is vital to playing correctly. Or you could just give into the Autism and try Dominions.
>>583264551"Contradiction: Spot The Liar" is genuinely a good time in no small part because of picrel."Detective Instinct: Farewell my Beloved" is made by the guys who did Hotel Dusk and Last Window.
>>583261138huh? did something happen? only thing i know about lunacid's dev was "i keep my charred balls as a memento" thing.>fucker got his organs given back to himhospital didn't let me keep my appendix reee
>>583262432i guess we can make some nice 5 minutes shitposts by voice to texting review posts but we'd need someone with equal sized free time and video editing skills
>>583270743Is this one of those leftist moments where you pretend not to understand things, or are you actually unaware that Kira is a gigatroon that pretends to be a cat and added pronouns to Lunacid explicitly to own le chuds?
>>583258451>looks like lunacid has a little sister,>gzdoomwrong sis
>>583267008Megaloot comes to mind, though it was really fond of having stages designed to hard-counter particular builds in a way that was insurmountable. This site is also really neat for finding games in niche subgenres - https://steampeek.hu/?appid=3410180
>>583271675I don't stalk devs to see what side of the culture war they are. I use that time to play video games.
Can I get some ohpinions on the Rift Wizard games? Tried the demo of 3 and it seems breddy gud
>>583272031Why does shelly have a nervous look on her face
Played Virtua Fighter 2 via a Yakuza game and I was swiftly reminded why I don't like fighting games, especially old ones. The blatant input reading is maddening.
Is Cult of the Lamb any good?
>>583276481I give a 6.5But...
>>583276481I've got friends that really enjoy it. My understanding is the town sim is kinda shallow, the roguelike is kinda shallow, and the metaprogression is kinda shallow, but it comes together smoothly enough.
>>583276481It hits ALL the right buttons, and is still stuck as a FOTM game.So its very playable, very short, and as a result shallow.
>Onirism having cacodemon knockoffsFine.>Onirism having cacodemon knockoffs that read your input and instantly dodge the attack for no reasonNo.
>>583276481the barebones dungeon crawling killed the game for me
do not the slugcat
>>583282495Reminds me of Silksong flying enemies backdashing every single time you try to hit them. Infuriating shit.
>>583287503Thing is it's not even them dodging the bullet. You pull the trigger and they move, it's dumb.
>>583276481It's incredibly short and it's not good at anything. It's very buggy. It never really got fixed.Honestly, even for free I'd say "skip".
>>583101663i bought it and i'm currently playing it. it has some interesting mechanics and i love the artstyle but the gameplay feels weirdly clunky. maybe i'm too used to hollow knight
>>583164405get judero instead of dujanah
new month so I'm gonna blogpost for filler again>Feudal Alloy – Sometimes a 6/10 metroidvania is $2 and that’s a ticket to be 10 hours closer to death if I’ve ever heard one. It’s generic and pretty poorly structured but makes me much more interested in Scarlet Deer Inn which I already had my eye on for having all its spritework be embroidered. This game’s main issue is consumables being both mandatory for healing and dealing simon-says elemental damage, but so common that they should’ve just been cooldowns or alterations of basic abilities. The equipment system was far more fiddly than necessary, and despite having a heat gauge for roughly stamina purposes, it doesn’t do anything like Ghost Song (and maybe Mindsieze?) where you can dump heat into your melee attacks for more damage. Still, sometimes you make a game that exists. This exists.
>Shelldiver – It’s apparently a trend to have short incremental games that aren’t idlers but have a dense 3-6 hour progression curve before capping out. Most of that space is eaten up by roguelites and such but there’s also the ones more akin to A Game About Digging a Hole or (the) Gnorp Apologue where the number goes up and then you have such a big number the game ends. This is one of those. Simple skill tree that gradually makes you a nonsensical font of AoEs, simple progression through similar maps doing similar tasks, simple everything. Really the only mentally challenging part of the game is the promo art showing a cute chibi turtle and the actual sprite being a turtle that’s old as hell with liver spots.
>>583276481its fun but has repetitive dungeonsplay it once for the cool bosses. fuck the sim
>>583282495That drill mission was kind of absolute ass.
DO NOT THE CAT
>Metroid Prime 4: Beyond – I’m glad I was able to borrow this because holy shit if I’d bought it I’d feel not so much insulted as actively betrayed. On its face the game is straightforwardly bad: A poor gestalt between console FPS combat and traditional Metroid Prime lock-on, its lush environments obscuring the resoundingly mediocre enemy variety, the music that is forgettable when it is not literally absent in the massive desert sitting in the middle of the map like a torso-sized ulcer struggling to connect limbs infected with various stages of gangrene, the aesthetics and biomes that feel like naked retreads of Prime 1 and 2 with nothing new to offer, and the fucking BK Kids Club constantly yapping in your ear. What’s insidious is the clear potential that is buried under layers and layers of development hell. Cosmobreeder Yiffai taught me that the MGS codec system is a beautiful fit for metroidvanias, but even though there’s a button on the map to call the dipshit menagerie (and I hit that button often trying to use the map markers) it doesn’t work the vast majority of the time. If you want me to care about these dipshits, let me initiate conversations! Weave them into the scan visor so I can only learn about machinery once I rescue the Rick Moranis wannabe. Don’t teach me about the enemy tactics until I rescue Store Brand Sergeant Johnson. There was a chance here to actually make something interesting happen in spite of the desert that gave me flashbacks to hunting crystals in Ratchet and Clank and the impressively yonic architecture. That chance was squandered and lost. Hopefully Ravenous isn’t MercurySteam once again making a game that’s centered around parries where you don’t get power bombs until three rooms before the final boss or I’m going to have to really wonder if grinding SMZ3 randomizers is actually liking a game.
>>583325513>l. Cosmobreeder Yiffai taug
>>583325856I stand by it being a genuinely excellent metroidvania purely on its mechanic and structural merits.
cranked is a new bike down mountain game
>>583275519big sis with a big cork and she's all out of potion
>>583329353>birminghamSo are you constantly getting mugged by refugees while the police tells everyone you're a nazi because you dare running away on your unlicensed bike instead of nicely sharing your money?
>Borderlands 4 – If I had a nickel for every 4th entry in a much-aggrieved shooter series that was formative to my taste in video games but wildly inconsistent in quality to a degree that the third game all but killed the franchise and I only played the fourth game because it was free, I’d have two nickels. I paid for Ratchet: Deadlocked way back when or I’d have three nickels. What is there to say about Borderlands 4? That it’s immediately better than 3 despite its myriad problems? That the open-world map is an abandonment of the genuinely atmospheric and well-structured subareas from 1 and 2? That it wrote a tutorial character that was surprisingly charismatic and interesting before doing a fake-out betrayal followed immediately by that character’s death? That they’re still chasing the specter of Handsome Jack’s popularity and trying to inorganically force lightning to strike twice? I only played for 5 or so hours during the free weekend, and while that wasn’t enough for me to spend $30 on the game it was enough for me to remember that Borderlands is the only franchise that has given me a melee-based character who causes enough explosions that I have to locate nearby enemies with the minimap. 4 has a dude who can punchlunge towards enemies even if those enemies are airborne. I’m going to go back to this eventually. After 1700 hours in the games it’s in my blood.
>>583325513>the music that is forgettable when it is not literally absent in the massive desertHey at least you can pay Nintendo to add music to the game lmfao
>>583336161This reads like a reddit post. I'm not reading all this shit.
>>583336768That's what really pushes it beyond the pale for me. I can see the batshit decision to have the largest zone of your game be purely atmospheric audio if you want to emphasize the bleakness of it or lean into the bike noises, whatever. "Buy the amiibo to install a radio in your bike" is where it gets stupid.
>>583337561PAY UP, GOYIM
>>583229804Idk, still have yet to play it but i like weird point & click games, i liked Osamu Sato games>>583232534Alright, thanks anon, i'm about to buy the steam version
>>583276481It's devolverslop. Looks good, but the game is 2 shallow games stitched together.
>>583337419I assume the joke it it's written in a borderlands-style.
>>583343009forced soul
>>583143716AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIT NEVER STOPS
>>583351664I WAS RIGHT THERE MAN
Does anyone here play big ambitions or software Inc.?
Anybody tried Tombwater? Seems pretty good so far. I've heard it described often as "2D Bloodborne" and it isn't, but it's fun.
>>583354732>"it's X but Y"no.
>>583355209Yeah, if they name other specific games in the description blurb it doesn't exactly inspire confidence. Card games are lousy with it.>Balatro mixed with X>Slay the Spire mixed with XProbably 7/10 times. Dark Souls and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. It seems every game with dodging, stamina, enemies that reset at checkpoints (or all three) is now a "Soulslike." Likewise, if a game uses a "find an ability and come back later to use it" it's a "Metroidvania." Serious lack of creativity a lot of the time. Did you get anything yet from the Steam sale?
>>583355585I fucking hate that. It should be pointed at and laughed whenever a game goes "it's X mixed with Y" or "it's X but Y".Like, no, I don't want to play Age of Empires 2 but in space, I want an actual space game.
>Submachine level 10
>>583352978THE KEEP CAMPING THIS SPECIFIC HOLE!!!
>>583325856It's a good game, sir.
>>583362596Fighting will only waste your time. You just have to pelt them with whatever you can and run for dear life while they're slowed down. Alternatively, if you find a spare worm, use it to trap them.
whenever he says "it's a good game sir" you know it's some faggot garbage
>>583362596>>583363507Alright NOW! All I have to do is run up the entire wall in 1 cycle, "fortunetly" the wall starts using night cycles instead of normal ones, so I will have practically infinite time. Considering how hard climbing the wall was as survivor I can't wait to see it on Huntress.>>583363507Brother why do you think I am going out of my way to kill them. I got tongue jump scared, lost my rock and tried to go around.
>>583363897There went my first attempt a white lizard had her head shoved into the hole I came out of, and I got lethal bit.
>>583363702What games do you like? I bet they're good games, sir.
>>583364316No matter what happens on top of 5P I cleared the wall on my second attempt.
>>583365216sokoban games
>>583365527I think this is the only set of areas in the game with two karma gates between each other, it is so weird that they are different karma levels too.
>>583365801me too.
>>583365895fair enough those are good games, ma'am.
>>583365802Time has been bought. I need to get the Wall Echo and then, I think I am going to try and descend the wall, to Chimney Canopy to get the Chimney Echo (I pray it has not moved, and that it is still the same like the Wall Echo or the Shaded Echo) as my final part of 10 karma, I am definitely going to grind the Survivor Passage up here, so I can warp to Farm Arrays as soon as I have 10 karma.
>keep buying shmups because they look cool despite the fact that I suck at themI may be the most retarded person ITT.
>>583366001Anything upcoming besides Blow's game? >>583366772What you playing? I just tried Birdcage the other day. It seems a bit easier than 2hu, but the last stage was cinema. I just brute forced a run so I still need to get to the TLB.
>>583366967Outpour is hopefully going to release next yearhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/3615290/Outpour/
>>583367114ah, I saw someone playing the demo on yt but forgot to wishlist. Looks good.
>>583366772I keep buying RTSs and 4x and GS when I can only survive on baby difficulty. I think I'm retarder than you. I win the retardbowl.
>>583367315hi spiderfag
>>583366449>Down the wall on my first tryBlessed, now to the top of the Canopy.
>>583366967So far I've bought:>Angel at Dusk>Ikaruga>Against Great Darkness>Crimzon Clover World EXplosion>MushihimesamaPlus a few others that are more roguelite than shmup.>Why did you buy so manyBecause they looked cool.>BirdcageGuess I'm buying another, thanks a lot.>>583367315>can't even win Top Retard awardIt's fucking over.
>>583367853Try Jamestown+, it's on the easier side. Or Shikhondo(食魂徒) - Soul Eater.
>>583367697I fucking hate this miserable game. Don't communicate that too me, just drop it on me. Alright. Just need to run through all of Chimney canopies in one run, along side all of outskirts or Sky Islands, then I'll have cycle to do all of Farmlands, and finally I need to beat Subterranian in one Cycle. Depending on which path I take I can only fail a certain number of times I can fail, no one karma gate to save me now.
>>583368845I HATE SQUIDCADAS!!!I HATE RAIN DEER!!!Grapple worms and jetfish are fine I guess.
>>583368132Tangent, but the "More like this" section is fucking worthless.>"Shmup" >Gungeon, BallXPit, Hotline Miami, Mega Man X Collection
>>583369449>They wall kicked off the fucking corner of the box instead of pulling themselves upWAS I NOT HOLDING UP WHY WOULD THAT HAPPEN!!!I have to play squidcada roulette again, and I either need to bring it here or have a spear.
Can't wait to breed this guy
>Isle of Reveries – Despite, or perhaps because of, my love for the Zelda series, indie clones never quite do it for me. Sure I’ve enjoyed games like Master Key and Pipistrello but nothing hits quite the same chord. Maybe it’s Zelda having the authority to “be Zelda” and everything else is in an endless sea of reference in to a series that plants one of its core tenets as motif and cyclical allusion. Twilight Princess is Ocarina of Time is A Link to the Past but god forbid an indie dev copy the ALttP sword arc. To its credit, Isle of Reveries is charming, clever, inventive with its item usage, willing to stymie and confuse the player with its dense overworld, and deeply trusting in its own design. Unfortunately, its dungeons were made by someone who thought Eagle’s Tower in Link’s Awakening was cool but needed to be three times longer. It is intensely common to be very deep down a side path and learn that because you didn’t go the other way and get a small key you have no recourse other than to backtrack through a dozen rooms, poke around somewhere else, find a nugget of progress, and keep moving forwards. You can get away with something like Ganon’s Tower when it’s the capstone of the game and leveraging a wide variety of interlaced mechanics, it’s less charming when the dungeon is entirely themed around one item and is so uncommunicative that it’s unclear if you’re misunderstanding the puzzle or going through rooms in the wrong order. After I gave up on the game the dev added an even more intricate optional dungeon that had been cut for time. I’m happy for them.
>>583091326https://www.youtube.com/shorts/TZDkQF_j3a8
>>583367680>hi spiderfagI'm not spiderfag. I'm the resident lolicon.
>>583378760>I'm the resident lolicon.Hi spiderfag.
>>583372886guuuuh i love gloomy boys!
need top down or 3D metroidvania, por favor
>>583379472Shadowman Remastered is quite strange because it has a lot of N64-era game design, but it's a really neat 3D metroidvania.
>Kiborg – My tastes are profoundly simple. If I can punch a man in the head and steal his shit, I’ll probably like the game. Redeemer was the previous games by these devs and despite the thick eurojank that meant most of the skill tree didn’t work and endgame balance was a suggestion at best, there was promise. A melee brawler roguelike sounded damn good, and it was finally priced to move. Unfortunately this still hasn’t solved the core issue of action roguelikes where either the core mechanics are able to beat the game, in which case the random elements are window dressing, or they are not, and it devolves into the same DPS race of how much damage can you do and how much HP can you obtain. The punching is also profoundly stiff, simplistic, and overall mediocre for a game where it’s this centralized. It’s 2026, how are you doing a bad version of Arkham combat?
>>583379065>Hi spiderfag.Spiderfag dislike lolis. He prefers twinks.
>>583387371You pushed for a loli to be part of the football team.
>>583388435Again, I'm not spiderfag. I'm just your average cunnyseur.
>>583393728Right...
>>583372886>>583379325The "le heckin ironic faggotry teehee" shit is really, really, really unfunny. No one is impressed. It's not cute. Close the thread and don't return.
>>583376874How far in did you drop it? I'm at what I think is the fifth dungeon, the mine level where you lose all your equipment. If every game developer on the planet got together and unanimously agreed to never again put that mechanic into future games, I'd welcome the decision with open arms.
>>583396060>ironic>funnyi'm serious though
>>583379472PseudoregaliaFrogmonster
>>583396225That's the bitch. It was being 20 rooms deep into some fuckass reflection puzzle where it wasn't clear if I had all the pieces and was missing some mechanical interaction, finally making progress, and then learning that I actually had to be on the other side of the dungeon to get a small key first, THEN I'd be allowed to seesaw back through this horseshit. All without my sword, or my potions. I've played ALttP rando dozens of times. I'll throw pots and debris at mooks all damn day. But fuck me that dungeon is ass. I've got a lot of time and a lot of patience but I was fucking done at that point. I'm also sick with the 'remove all the player's abilities to make them feel powerless for a while at the endgame' because although it's mechanical texture and can break up some staleness if your core gameplay loop is fun and interesting then by necessity stripping me of all the tools I've built up is going to be boring and frustrating. Sure, it's deliberate, but if I deliberately kick a man in the balls that doesn't exonerate me.
I don't get the No-Go Zones in XF Extreme Formula.Why add beat-em-up stages in a racing game?Is it because the dev made the Spark the Electric Jester series and went "Shit...we GOTTA put 3d platformers in our next game...".
Dead Estate any good?
>>583403437I put two hours into it a few months ago. It seemed fine? You definitely need to be a Binding of Isaac fan in terms of wikitrawling to look up item effects, esoteric horseshit for midgame progression, and patience for deliberate trap/joke items. I'm pretty sour on roguelites lately so take all that with a grain of salt.
>Hell is Us – I saw this mentioned this in a thread about puzzle games and I was confused. I’d seen the game around; generic title, dude on the cover looking like a Watchdogs ripoff, the kind of nothinburger of a game that fills gamepass by the dozen. I had nothing better to do so I gave it a shot and what I found was a game that tried to fit in the fascinating seam between Soulslike environmental lore dumps and Myst environmental lore dumps. A fragment of a key lies in a churchyard next to a note talking about how the excavation team took the rest to a government office. You travel there and find the other key and take it back to the first area and it opens a chest which has a weapon enhancement. It flows oddly, and has the same issue I ran into with the Loathing games where after a while the combat and size of the map was in the way of the exploration and puzzles. Enemy variety was also mediocre, but that was corrected in a patch that came out a week after I stopped playing. Also even though games are scraping the bottom of the barrel for what the reason is for the map to be a shithole of killing and looting, I haven’t seen any other designer base their game in a pastiche of The Troubles.
Anyone here play this? What am i in for?
>Well Dweller – Kyle Thompson made another metroidvania. It’s pretty good, though definitely the weakest of his four games. The art, music, writing, and routine map design are all on par but it’s a little directionless. It feels like there was a core of the game that was removed. The first movement ability that’s obtained is launching your weapon and embedding it into walls as a springboard. I’ve seen this before in games like Thread and really enjoyed it, but the game never builds on it. You can only ever fire it laterally while standing on the ground, and the other movement abilities you get are generic and stiff. For most devs this would be a fine showing but for someone with this pedigree of inventiveness and atmosphere this is something of a letdown.
>The Tenth Line – I buy a lot of niche indie games with spurious designs. I deliberately pursue solo projects because I like to see what absolute horseshit someone will cook up when they go multiple years without an editor. That lets me see a lot of things I could find nowhere else. Sometimes that’s a good thing. You have to move each of your three party members individually through the metroidvania maps, with each having their own movement abilities and jump arcs. The auto-follow is mediocre and if they fall too far behind they won’t join you in the turn-based battles. Your attacks in the battle dimension have MP costs, areas of effect against the rows and columns of enemies, and cooldowns. Every party member has their own resource systems and mechanics. There’s a sphere grid that uses inventory items for spheres so you might have to choose between keeping a rare consumable around or slotting it in to make a connection. Triple Triad is here. It has some of the most 2007 voice acting imaginable despite coming out in 2017. The PDF manual is almost 40 pages long and it is a BRIEF summary of mechanics. I didn’t even last an hour, if I was going to put up with this level of nonsense I would’ve stuck with Horizon’s Gate. More power to the developer, I’ve been outfreaked.
>Mirrored Soul – I met the developer of this online once, I forget if I got the key for free from him. This is the sort of game that The Edge of Allegoria was trying to be. Clearly a Pokemon parody but with deeper mechanics, a more elaborate overworld structure, and a more adult tone. The main difference is the writing is actually clever here and the RPG mechanics are good. Monsters gain moves as they level, and any two monsters can fuse to become a new monster. These are Digimon-style evolution chains so they go in circles, but fusion lets you carry forward up to two moves so you can go in a circle to give a monster two moves it could never learn otherwise or to boost its stats through consumables. Unfortunately despite having an aesthetic and mechanical appreciation for that depth in the abstract, I still don’t actually enjoy this style of RPG. I keep thinking I do. But when the battles take several turns for random fodder and catching a pokemon is a detailed conversation minigame that has one solution per species, the tedium outpaces the depth rapidly.
What exactly are your favorite online indie games?
got the new dlc for darkest dungeon 1 and started a new savelooking at the wiki both heroes and the new trinkets look complex as fuck, but the duelist district looks cool
>>583434628Was that Dota 2?
I think i'm going to buy Barda just so i can leave a review and get it out of the <50 reviews hellIt's making me sad every time i see it on my wishlist
>>583438932slay the spireprobably 2 because i don't know any of the words in it
How long has Ultrakill been in early access? I just want to play the 1.0 version and move on with my life already.It's been in early access since September 2020 (its demo on Itch came out even earlier that year). We are in the game's sixth year of early access now, with no 1.0 release date in sight.
>>583449675There's only one last layer left. So, maybe next year?
>>583293445Yeah, I read in a few Steam reviews that the input buffering is kind of nonexistent, making the platforming sections unnecessarily hard.
>>583450443I hope so. Also I just realized that in my seethe, I wrote in a stream of consciousness, answering my own question after doing a quick Google search.
Any of you guys tried Realm of Ink? Art style and gameplay both look pretty cool, but I'm hesitant because it's apparently a "Hades clone" and I'm assuming there's no reason to buy a knockoff when I already have the real.
>>583415264Is it still in early access?
>>583384180Kiborg is funny because its so objectively bad but its also like the only thing russians have released in 20 years so the reviews champion itIts layers of shit on layers of shit>Can do various combos to break armor, hit crowds, etcHOWEVER, you knock enemies back as you hit them, often out of range if you do anything but the basic combo, at which point he arkhams at them, resetting the combo OR knocking them away again if you were trying to combo with heavy; as such, most of the combos are literally unuseable>You can replace your body parts with robotics for bonuses, mixing and matching to look cool and do cool thingsHOWEVER, there is no point to ever not just do a full set, ever, at all. Its always just better to do that. >Can use guns, weapons and such to vary combatHOWEVER, unless you all in on the melee body, melee breaks near instantly and is slow to replace. Unless you go all in on gun body, ammo is too limited. So most of the time these mechanics may aswell not existThis is on top of individual bad design like the gun body replacing combo finisher with a free powerful gunshot but you do not have to hit enemies to do this so its just an infinite ammo overpowered gun or the body that gives you status effects but applies it to enemies to eventually just making you immune to them all so you just walk in rooms and 9/10 enemies die instantly and the survivors (even bosses) have a status effect that removes all armor mechanics so you just mash X until they dieLike damn I really feel challenged when the final fucking boss can't fight back and most rooms died before I moved
Picked up a few games from the sale, namely Talos Principle 2, Ori 2and Death's Door. 90℅ off was just too tempting. And my brother got me some for my bday too: Wizordum, Rogue Legacy 2 and Soulstone Survivors. Now just need time to play them... Anyone else picked up some stuff? Shmup lad further up the thread has good taste, nearly all those are on my wishlist
>Want to play a survival game>Non-random map and a story>The game turns into an action adventure game halfway through with the survival aspect being mostly left behind.Why does this always happen?
>>583467148Some good picks there. Ori 2 is my favorite of the bunch. Huge gameplay improvement over 1. Hope you enjoy it! Very emotional game. As for what I picked up... Way too much.>Cruelty Squad>Sworn>Dread Delusion>Ad Infernum>Dead of Darkness>Dead Estate>Nightmare of Decay>The Cabin Factory>Abyss Chaser>Side Scape>Jump King>After Death>Recursed>Primordia>Shape Shifter: Formations>Broodstar>Jamestown+>Frogmonster>Raksasi>Void Souls>Nitro Kid>30XX>Mushihimesama>Talented>Depths of Sanity>Archvale>Strangeland>Against Great Darkness>Spirits Abyss>Fury Unleashed>Crosscode>Gato Robato>Death's Door>Tombwater
Eaaaaaaaaarly aaaaaaaaaaaacesss
>>583468468slugcat
>>583409926kino...
Playing something I got in the last sale while I mull over my decisions for this one. Wayward. I've explored most of the main coastline of the first island, I believe. I've gone down into a cave, speared a bunch of spiders, and then ran into an aberrant 「Spooky Scary Skeletons」 who chased me back out. I'm actually considering crafting some wooden armor. I've got a nice pile of seeds from wandering around. I've seen two scarecrows in a couple of seemingly abandoned farm plots. Brought one back to camp. I've yet to see any people, however. Not sure if that's good or bad yet. I've got no concrete direction to go in, for now, but I need to see what I can do about this curse that is slowly building.>>583470119Just had a look at the steam page. Combat is reminding me of Star Ocean: The Second Story. Pretty cool.
>>583479865>Star Ocean: The Second StorySWALLOW ALL THE WICKED PEOPLE!
>>583463534The only run I won was when I got the heart that gave me increased max HP when killing enemies with melee weapons. Like you said, lotta neat ideas, lot of potentially cool systems, but none of them work and none of them feel like they matter unless you're all in on them.
>>583479865It's the waiting queue for CrossCode 2
>>583483152Yeah I bought Alabaster Dawn as soon as it was available but I'm not gonna play it until 1.0 because goddamn
>>583091326Slugcat...
nighty night
Playing CrossCode, having lots of fun.
>>583470119The 3D-wish aesthetic seems like a downgrade from CC, but still looks fun. I just hope it is not infested with DEI/tranny shit... Since I saw their "happy pride month" on the devblog and the overall character design, I began to fear.
>>583386358booba
>Game has the ability to enter your name at the start>You could enter it as Name, or NAME>Have to guess which style the game's going to use for naming everyone>Usually guess incorrectly
>>583483152Crosscode 2 never, ever.
>>583500815That's why you go with NaMe so that you're always wrong but consistently so
>>583449675>no 1.0 release date in sightLiterally the next content update>Sixth year of early accessAnd like third year of brutally mogging the entire competition in quality, content, uniqueness and moddingTrust me this shit is worth it
Damn, the intro of kynseed took a lot longer than I expected. It took me 6-7 hours to properly meet mr fairweather.
>>583500815>CURSE YOU... Bobby!
I had a dream where I was playing a Looney Tunes Dynasty Warriors, and after the final mission the ending cutscene was a MGS-like rant about how the digital age lets people spin up a fake persona at any time to hide themselves from any meaningful interaction, and interpersonal connections are gradually torn down not only by discussions becoming meaningless from people arguing for and against things without actually caring about the topic at all, but a person's sense of self being eroded away from the constant masks they form, wear, and discard on a whim to the point their personality becomes a formless sludge of contrarianism and apathy to be manipulated. Delivered entirely by Bugs Bunny.
>>583504652Honestly Bugs seems into the masquerade aspect but I could see Daffy crashing out like that.
>>583492737Some guy on the steam forum made a thread about cringe dialogue.You can guess how it turned out.
Secret of Grindea is fun so far, but goddamn is the difficulty so unbalanced. Every encounter is so fucking grimey. If you play on anything higher than Normal difficulty, the game seems to expect you to be as cheap as possible.
Tombwater is losing my interest.
Im about to start tossing away most of my inherited money to hire friends and artists to work for my game but i wanted to ask some questions first about the current game market just to clear some questions/suspicions1. Am i correct to assume theres a huge missing market for straightforward action games that dont belong to any particular label? Almost everything these days is a roguelike, a souls-style game, a 2 hour long game, a metroidvania, something following a trend, something of the sort. Theres barely any unique lengthy straightforward action games with their own combat. Am i correct to assume that anything with good length and quality like this would stand out and sell a lot?2. Personally how much would you care about trying to move away from trends? Fresh healing mechanic instead of shit like estus flask style healing, no i-frame dodges or deflect parries. Generally aiming for more directional dodging and enemy design around making it tricky to decide what is the correct direction to evade before its too late, or by trying to combine moves to put you in a bad spot to defend from the next ones. In my mind i think fresh means fun, but idk the minds of others and most people ive talked to seem indifferent/dont think it matters. Would you say this is good and relevant or is it just my spergy autistic obsession?3. How big a deal is it to have vertical progression, new moves, upgrades etc in such a game? Would having nothing except sidegrade equippables make people lose interest over 15+ hours? How much do people tolerate using the exact same wide-ish moveset?
>>583533851>Theres barely any unique lengthy straightforward action games with their own combatfor reference, with this i was talking about games like Furi, Katana Zero, etc
>>583533851>wakes up>see this...do you mind if I don't answer right away?
>>583534538its fine you can quote it in a future thread if this one dies
>>583535003I mean I can tell you I won't answer 1 because I have shit taste, so I don't feel qualified to answer it. You'd need a poll or something.Is Steam Greenlight still a thing?
>>583533851>>5835339721, I think trying to predict or gauge the viability of an idea in the indie market is a fools errand, but just my 2 cents, the market as a whole is shifting towards casual experiences, dressmaker, all the low skill ceiling coopgames, rise of cozy games, autobattlers, etc.2, I do not care about new things inherently, something is either good or it isn't, novelty will never be a selling point to me.3, people like the dopamine response of getting an immediately worthwhile upgrade, upgrading your weapon and oneshotting an enemy that you previously could, this is why roguelikes work because they are a slotmachine that will eventually let you oneshot things. Also this no longer sounds straight forward like furi.I am admittedly not your target audience.
>>583533851That market was the AA segment and I'd say its needs are unmet but also that style of game is only really possible to build with a tenured team of 20-50 working at pace in a consistent environment. An indie squad isn't making PS2 God of War even if Santa Monica isn't either. Bucking trends is fine but you need to design TOWARDS something. If your gameplay cadence is best met by estus, heart drops, lifesteal, whatever, do what your game needs. Don't start with "we're avoiding this, this, and this" or you end up reinventing the wheel. Vertical progression is important for texture, even if it doesn't have to be major. The issue with giving everyone the full list from the start is that the player has no sense for their bread and butter, their cool overelaborate combos, and their situational but neat stuff. They're going to be using simple attack strings anyways while they test their limits. You don't have to go full DMC and make it so the first playthrough is a tutorial/currency grind for the 'real game' but that's closer than not.
>>583535857greenlight is dead I believe, but steam does next fests now which is good for getting eyes on your game/gauging what kind of sales you might expect, we have a new next fest coming up on the 8th
>>583533851>Am i correct to assume that anything with good length and quality like this would stand out and sell a lot?No. The premise sounds appealing to me because I miss games like that, but vidyadev is always a gamble.>Would you say this is good and relevant or is it just my spergy autistic obsession?Spergy obsession. Originality for its own sake is just as damaging as trend chasing. If a mechanic makes your game better, use it.>How big a deal is it to have vertical progression, new moves, upgrades etc in such a game? Would having nothing except sidegrade equippables make people lose interest over 15+ hours? How much do people tolerate using the exact same wide-ish moveset?Spyro got popular with just a fire breath and dash attack, so it really depends on the game. Even Zelda games have a pretty small moveset, and I don't think having unlockable techniques in Twilight Princess made the combat any better. Again, it depends heavily on your game. Unlocking something cool in Kingdom Hearts feels really good.
>>583536190>Don't start with "we're avoiding this and this " or you end up reinventing the wheel.Well yeah thats not the goal here, i always had my obsessions like "I wish this was more like X" but for an actual reason/goal/experience in mind.For example i dont want to have no i-frames for the heck of it. A lot of games have no i-frames but enemies are completely boring to evade because you just brainlessly outspace them. How few games make you quickly have to decide between dodging left, right, backwards, diagonal, forward? Or something entirely different altogether like slashing the projectile midair? I think these kind of feelings are rare in action games, but consistently exciting.As for the healing, i generally dont find chugging potions/consumables interesting. I think its cooler when people heal from the action, and taking damage doesnt pause your momentum. I specially dislike the trend where enemies deal very high portions of your healthbar, and in turn its a game where youre not meant to ever be hit too frequently unless you catastrophically fuck up. I want forgiving damage and healing so enemies can be meaner and have more potential to chain hits on you. I want taking damage and healing to be fun, i want people to be more impressed/amused at enemies pulling disgusting combos and cheesy tricks, rather than frustrated.In general i think action vidya get very repetitive and staler when people take mechanics from other games purely because its the mechanics they know, when their games instead called for their own unique solution that fits it best. Kind of like how i enjoy fromsoft's games much more than i enjoy most developers copying fromsoft's mechanics. Or how i like something like Silksong way more than its competitors because it has its own unique heal system, no i-frame dodges, etc and instead everything is tailor made for what it wants to be. In my game i want everything to synergize and be fun, even taking damage and getting hit by enemies1/2
>>583533851>Am i correct to assume that anything with good length and quality like this would stand out and sell a lot?No, they stopped making those because people barely care about them>Fresh healing mechanic instead of shit like estus flask style healing, no i-frame dodges or deflect parriesThe only game i know that tried that ended up adding them later because people kept complaining>How much do people tolerate using the exact same wide-ish moveset?In a purely action-based game? LittleHonestly dude invest those money and start by making smaller action games to get a feel
>>5835361902/2>The issue with giving everyone the full list from the start is that the player has no sense for their bread and butter, their cool overelaborate combos, and their situational but neat stuff.Is that really a problem? They are going to start simpler, but they are naturally going to get better and more natural at their own moveset, at the same time as they build their own playstyle. They will get mechanically better and more knowledgeable about their moves, at the same time as the enemies and challenge they face become trickier too. But this is one of the harder aspects for me to handle. Both in the games where i was just an extra developer, and my own shitpost little games: While i was very good at abstracting/intuiting how the player will feel towards the pacing of levels, learning enemies, exploring, etc, being able to tell how they will go through the motions of learning and utilizing a moveset has always been one of my weaker struggles>>583537193>Spergy obsession. Originality for its own sake is just as damaging as trend chasingsee >>583537415 and make your judgment perchance
>>583537560>and start by making smaller action games to get a feelIm past that phase kinda, i made a few shitpost or passion games before. Now i feel like i need to put myself through the test of "do i actually have the dilligence for a 3-5+ year project" and "do i actually have good taste and vision for a real game"1/3 my cash is invested for safety and 2/3 my cash is what im willing to completely waste to figure out the answer to the questions above>The only game i know that tried that ended up adding them later because people kept complainingI wondered about that too. In theory its not like my game would be totally downgraded or ruined my adding these. But i think it would really water down what i actually intend with the enemies, and the message i want to get across>No, they stopped making those because people barely care about themIs that so? I cant really think of any such games that failed to sell, unless they had something that blatantly screamed "low quality/unnapealing". Do you have any examples you can provide? Id like to play them if yes
>>583537415>>583537630You're clearly very passionate but if you're ever going to actually make a game you're going to have people you care about more than me telling you to stop because you're being a moron so I'm going to tell you to give you practice ignoring the feedback, this isn't how you go about things. In fact, this is exactly what reinventing the wheel looks like. Sure, you can give the player full fidelity in which direction they dodge, but unless you make massive sacrifices to the control scheme (such as PS2 GoW's fixed camera freeing up the right stick) that becomes very fiddly especially because the closer your camera the harder it becomes to judge distance and have an actual view of the battlefield. If you're going to punish imprecision you need to give the player enough information to be precise, and more to the point you need to make that execution interesting. Letting players heal from the action is modern AAA raspberry jam with another face. If you're able to consistently damage enemies HP doesn't matter and if you aren't HP doesn't exist. And no amount of visual spectacle will make a player enjoy enemies wresting control away from them for entire combos. I've played a lot of games by overambitious solo devs. In many ways it's one of my favorite genres. You're currently en route to creating an action game that caters to your intuitive playstyle, with a list of combos only digestible because you've been steeped in it for years, and a pace of play that you find natural but has no flexibility for other people. Those aren't flaws. Being unflinching in your designs means the people the game is for will love it. It also means you run the risk of digging a very deep hole that only has room for one person, and using it to bury your head in the sand.
>>583538291>ut unless you make massive sacrifices to the control scheme (such as PS2 GoW's fixed camera freeing up the right stick) that becomes very fiddly especially because the closer your camera the harder it becomes to judge distance and have an actual view of the battlefieldIm actually aiming for a top down isometric in this one, more budget friendly I think the game will be more demanding on precision, but ill complement it with a more forgiving healthbar and healing system. >And no amount of visual spectacle will make a player enjoy enemies wresting control away from them for entire combos.The idea is less so "your control is taken away from several seconds" but moreso "You got baited or reacted poorly several times within 10 seconds" or "Enemies just lined up multiple hits at you within a second">If you're able to consistently damage enemies HP doesn't matter and if you aren't HP doesn't exist.Well ideally youre able to keep on slightly-more-than-positive terms for you to keep going. >with a list of combos only digestible because you've been steeped in it for years,Oh no, i absolutely despise that shit. i feel like so many devs get autistic about their CAG style moveset that feels like ass to get into for most players. To me its very obvious at a glanceI believe games should be very low attrition in this regard. Im not saying the moveset has to be low skill ceiling, but the moveset MUST be easy and natural for players to get into. You should be fighting the enemies, not your controls.By extension like i said im good at the levels/enemy pacing so im going to be really autistic about introducing this to people, the delivery of which enemies show up when, how much is demanded at any given time, etc has to be extremely deliberate and well made at the beginning of the game, to help hook people into it.1/2
>>583538791 (You)> It also means you run the risk of digging a very deep hole that only has room for one person,I understand this concept but i always felt like this was a failure from the developer in practice. When its well done, most players have little issue getting into the mood of it. When its poorly done, the few autistic players who love it would have loved it more if it was actually well made.also post scriptum>aiming for a top down isometric in this one, more budget friendlyThats not to say i picked it just because its budget friendly. Its primarily like this because i really wanted a game like this, and it works well against what you described: It gives people a better clearer view of distances and enemy attacks, it lets me go all-into the directional-dodging-precision bullshit. It just so happens to be the only action game out of the ones i wanna make that i can actually afford right now.
ok i'm kind of going fucking crazy so i need someone to verify whether i'm retarded or the game is retardedi'm playing the message from deep space and i'm at the section where they're teaching you their units. their standard mass unit is 8^29 x 56, is it not? which is fucking massive. and yet it's treated as a small number. so is this shit smaller than a fucking attogram, or what? or am i just misunderstanding? because the meteorite is hundreds of thousands of these units
>>583538291>this isn't how you go about things. In fact, this is exactly what reinventing the wheel looks like.i dont think so. Isnt reinventing the wheel basically trying to come up with a new thing that brings no new value?the proposal here isnt any new groundbreaking unexplored mechanic. its not like dodging is a novel concept. but it is true that action games let you i-frame or parryslop everything and you barely care about these nuances of attacks. is it really such a crime/farfetched goal to want to make people actually care about where they are dodging?
>>583539534The Avogadro number is 6.022 x10 ^23 moles, sometimes you need a dickfuckton of a tiny thing to make anything worth measuring.
>>583539783after going through the transmissions i realize my confusion is a misread of the larger mass unit transmission
Surprisingly I still haven't bit at anything on the steam sale. Might just wait for winter.
>THE DOG island main theme is sang by the 10 year old daughter of the lyricist in both English and JapaneseThis game stays the weirdest oddity I've seen.
>>583386358What game is she from?
>>583533851I think that if >a) this is a passion projectthen who gives a shit about what the market wants, or >b) you're doing this with some expectation of returnsthen put your money into literally anything else and you'd probably be better off
really does feel like if you get feel no pain + ashen strike + stoke you kind of just winYou don't even really need the ashen strike because you can get it from stoke
>>583091326Hoggart...
>hear a bunch about Fear and Hunger>decide to give it a try>first run I get get GAPED like 10 minutes in and then get beaten to death by infinite gnomes or whatever they called them
>>583564213Don't play that game. It's a troll.
>>583564213It's only difficult at first. Once you understand how it works it's fairly easy overall.>>583564702filtered
>>583564213It's literally THE /indie/ game>>583564702YOU are the troll
>>583469072Damn, that's the rest of your 2026 sorted then. I've only played Jamestown, Primordia and Crosscode from your list but all three were good (the latter very much so). And thanks, I'll enjoy Ori 2 when I get to it. Pulling 50 hour weeks at the moment so Soulstone Survivors might be a good evening game to turn my brain off
>>583566481yeah on my second playthrough it hit me that killing enemies doesn't actually reward you most of the time and that you can just walk around most of them. which did make the game easier since healing items seem to be pretty rare
>>583569471I've played Soulstone for maybe ten ish hours or so. Good hotel game. Seems to have a ton of meta progression and I can imagine a completionist would have a field day with it. One thing I found helpful is to turn down your spell opacity (down on D-pad as I remember) because as you get more and more abilities it'll get to the point where you won't be able to see anything on the screen. 50 hours is creeping up a bit high there, watch you don't burn out.
>>583554880You can have passion and still want your game to actually do well and appeal to peopleI was at a gaming expo recently talking to devs and trying their games and even the guy who was making N64 homebrew games would take feedback on how to make things more generally appealing despite knowing his shit isn't going to sell very well because its N64 homebrew
>>583552417XF Extreme Formula
>>583555198tf2 toohighq too be highq enough for these games
I set Steam to hide Early Access titles.The Autumn sale looks very sparse.
>>583554880>>583576034"Its my passion project so therefore i dont care if it sucks and others dont like it!" is honestly just immense copeIf you are passionate about whatever idea then you should want to be able to actually replicate it and allow others to experience it and understand ityou want it to spread around and be played by many and for them to actually be affected by how your game feels.Its also the way you get to tell how your game *actually* is, because games arent primarily played by developers who already know how all of it works. Its by people playing blindly for the first time not knowing what comes next
elden ring is not on saleagain
>>583577151Yah its also why testing is important and more devs should use the steam play test or do demos if they're indie and cannot afford testers.Ie in the event it took me maybe 30 seconds to find a bug in one game falling through the floor, another game I had to be told where to go because it was not sign posted you can break a specific wall at all, another I put the console down and let it play itself infront of the dev to show how absurdly easy it is right now (he's working on ramping up difficulty sooner apparently) and another I beat the boss by standing behind a wall holding M1 until it died as it could not shoot past it but I could.All of which things that can easily be fixed ONCE FOUND, but you need either the right kind of person or a lot of people to find these issues.
>>583576073thanks
>>583569960Thanks anon, will do - mercifully it's only for October then things get normal again. Will remember the opacity tip when I get time to play tomorrow. Let us know how you get on with your games too.
>Black void under skirt>Female model disappear if you try to move the camera under herboooring
>>583091326Miltiades...
Okay so I put 15 hours into kynseed and I feel mixed. I don't love it. But it's very clearly that the team who made it put an absurd amount of love into their "dream game". But that's a double edge sword, because it gives the feeling of reading an amateur fanfic rather than a curated product. It's not a question of balance or skill either, the game feels rather well balanced. And some of the things that happen are interesting ideas, but that's all they are. Interesting ideas. The mechanics are complex but not very deep. None of what I've seen so far has been "bad", in fact, I'd argue that a lot of the mechanics are better than other big games in the genre like stardew valley. But it's also... Insipid. Tasteless. I can play for 5 hours straight and it does have the "just one more day" feel to it but it feels a bit like I'm just filling checkboxes rather than living the world. The gen 1 npcs have a tiny bit of a story but they feel bland and generic, like I honestly wouldn't care if all of them died of all age and I had a pool of completely generic replacement (which is what will eventually happen). I befriend them because they're workers, because it boost my kynseed and because it's part of completion. I help them because I get rewarded. But I feel no attachment to any of them.What a weird game. It's the littlewood syndrome but somewhat worse.
I had that on my wishlist since it launched. But it looked very bland, so I've been postponing to buy it until I really crave a """"""comfy"""""", low pressure, no-drama game about growing turnips and giving gifts to people, that isn't SDV or a Harvest Moon.
>>583604509Wanted to quote >>583601659
>>583604509Have you tried My Time at Portia/Sandrock?
Why did nobody tell the Onirism dev that he's not a good writer (or at least needs a better translator) and to stop making his cutscenes so damn long
>>583535857>Is Steam Greenlight still a thing?Brother, Greenlight died like 10 years ago
>>583607459Can you imagine it nowadays? Christ.
>>583607596We actually should bring it back with a $500 fee so we don't have to suffer through this
>>583607797I don't think it'd work because indians are like, THE spam culture. They'd have a legion of folk available to vote on their slop games.
>>583608674I'm playing a wild west game so I read that and my first thought was "surely there's not THAT many native americans"
>>583608960Not the fun kind of indians, sadly.
>>583607797holy shit
>>583604509Fields of Mistria? Seeds of Calamity?>>583604953Portia was very bland.
>>583609835For me they're all bland but I'm reporting on what the stuff my friends who like that sort of game have liked. The only one that's ever hooked me was Ever Oasis and even that I never beat.
Genetically Engineered Wolf Baby with Gay Parents and who is into White Chicks
>>583610069I'm not a furry... But...
>>583610703thats just Dog Nigga
>>583611528Lizards don't have fur, you can safely lust after those thighs
>>583610069man, ever oasis was just too short. and not really a lot to do.I was hoping for it to fill the void after the original fantasy life but it just couldn't.I did like it aesthetically. but gameplay wise it was complete ... meh.
>>583607797>Finding a good indie be like
>>583614459My issue was that it felt like you could keep up on any two of dungeoneering for materials, running festivals, or progressing the main quest. I feel behind on the actual story and when I got back to it I was both bored and wildly overleveled for it so I didn't bother.
>>583615090why do you think we all congregate here? it's not for the snackbar
finally had a winning "legit" run that wasnt custom draft
>>583610703>who is into White ChicksI can see he's a dog you don't have to say that
>>583576270alright man
does anyone here play exanima?
>>583612872It wasn't the lizard I was thinking of...
>>583479865The curse built up to 33% and then the shadows began moving and they hit like fuckin' truck-kun. After being banished to the shadow realm, Grug has gotten lucky. Decent bit of freshwater nearby a relatively defensible looking spot to set up shop. That cave off to the east could have some goodies too. The last one had a bunch of spiders before I found Mr. Bones and it was a nice stack of string afterward. I'm enjoying the super amnesia unlock system thing but need to remember to change the filter from "craftable only" more.
>>583590676gayme?
>>583647482I believe anon already answered up here>>583576073
>>583479865>>583646360This looks extremely janky. Might be trash or might be good.
>>583648416Thank you
>>583646360Moved camp down here. Pruned some dead trees along the way and sorted the results into a few piles for now. I found some spruce resin sitting around somewhere that I can cook into pitch for glue. I don't know how to get more but I'm thinking that might be a water tight seal.>>583648667Full price is $7.99 USD and the main dev seems to be relatively active in working on it. Guy does dev streams as he's doing so sometimes. There's even an old alpha version you can play on the Unlok (the devs) website from like, 2017 and you can kinda see how far it's come. I believe the lore is that you're a pirate who's who's washed ashore with some heavy amnesia. It's definitely scratching an itch and the systems make me not want to use a wiki to see if I can figure it out on my own. Everything you learn, from recipes to information on what skills can raise which stats, even learning about the existence of certain stats, stays for subsequent attempts. I'm really enjoying the soundtrack as well. Seems you can do up to 32 players multiplayer as well, so you can have a jolly crew of scallywags running around being cavemen if you want.
What are some of your favorite indie horror games? Preferably survival horror but I welcome any and all suggestions that make an attempt to be scary. >>583589298I've been playing Tombwater most recently. It's okay. Top-down "Soulslike" with a pretty basic moveset. The setting is the most interesting part of it (old West style with some Eldritch stuff thrown in). I'm maybe six hours in and I'm steadily losing interest. You can only improve one of three skills when you level up - HP, Stamina, and a third one that makes it so you can cast more spells before getting the Madness status, which is a debuff that makes you unable to cast unless you rest at a bonfire, or use a specific uncommon consumable. There aren't really "builds" because none of the weapons have stat requirements, being that there are no real "stats." Not a bad game, just unremarkable and I can't see myself replaying it, assuming I finish it.
>>583656516>What are some of your favorite indie horror games? Preferably survival horror but I welcome any and all suggestions that make an attempt to be scary.The one and only
>>583652212>the lore is that you're a pirate who's who's washed ashore with some heavy amnesiaSo like Windrose, but without the retarded Dark Souls bosses?[heavy breathing]CAN YOU SAIL?
>>583656516unironically fear and hunger 2
>>583555198finally got around to beating the SP1RECAST2 seed blind :) gonna watch the videos now to see how different my run was (spoilers)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFbSzqNtyeshttps://www.twitch.tv/videos/2894083584
>>583658912>forced to go back every 5 minutes to safe zones rather than continue exploring the worldlost me with that mechanic pretty quickly into my playthrough
>playing how many dudes, roguelike gambling>get an alien that can move other dudes around>get a wizard that casts fireball every 3 seconds>get wizard item that makes him cast for distance travelled>pair alien and wizard together, fireballs are going>free upgrade that makes a dude dash every 4 seconds>give that to the wizardmy nigga is all over the fucking place and spamming fireball, it's amazing
Playing the Yakuza games makes me so fucking hungry.
>>583661867Supposed to be able to sail to other islands, yeah.
>>583668113>in dire needOr if you're Miyamoto Musashi.
>found a zombie post-apocalyptic PBBG in which everyone is in the same survivor camp>all players share the same storage>all players share the same story missions>players have specialize in one or two roles(besides combat skills), like cooking, farming, hunting, medic, smithing, etc>players have to team up to do raid on bosses/large amounts of zombiesThese PvE, "all players work for the same goal" are rare as fuck.>>583604953>Have you tried My Time at Portia/Sandrock?Yes. Very fun.>>583609835>Fields of Mistria? Seeds of Calamity?Those two seems to be very light in content.
the new update to project silverfish is really damn good. Its not all that much of new if you already played the beta, but the new things are massiveextremely shithole dungeon that lets you get a new regression matrix. A hidden "forge" that lets you turn eather into enchanted ammo, combined downside-less versions of artifacts, rhinojelly flumes, and more. new way to get debt receipts and lots of cash. cool new 5.7 gun
>Persistent Browser Based GameWhat's the appeal?
'MEMBER COVID??!?'MEMBER THE AI CRAZE??!?
>>583679218I have 70 hours in fields of mistria. I wouldn't say it's light in content.
>>583679218>PBBGP-public baseball game?
>>583694104Public Bastard Bond Game.
>>583694104Persistent Browser Based Games.
>>583156482Is it a good game, sir?
>>583703402It is indeed a good game.
>>583368845God you're such a little bitchstop playing hunter, you deserve the survivor experience
>>583258451looks fairly interesting13 bucks is a bit much tho
HELP
>>583258451Scumhead has been doing that artstyle for years. Mohrta's awesome, really cool map design and the characters are fun too.
>>583711254>castlevania: Belmont's CurseThis one is shit, don't->release date: 2026What
>>583093462>only on type of crypt>only one time of angle statue>only wooden benches>only flimsy trees>no mausoleum at all1/10, would not like to be buried here
>>583712668>no mausoleum at allThere are. They are the small shacks between the angel statues and columbariums.But yea. I hope there's more graveyard stuff to unlock later. Right now is very lackluster.
Need a blogposter to keep the thread bumped. I have to take a shower and cook dinner.
>>583717203I've got nothing to blogpost about, I've been playing two different retched 2D soulslikes and I'm trying to decide if eating weapons if I navigate the inventory too quickly is better or worse than merely being mediocre.
>>583717203I started Outer Wild, but I know you fags, the moment I start posting about it, someone will decide:1) it's trans/liberal propaganda and henceforth deserves to die2) to spoil the entire game.Otherwise... have you fags heard about Ratatan?
>>583717203Gaming drought
>>583712551You might be thinking of Curse of Darkness
>>583717461>1) it's trans/liberal propaganda and henceforth deserves to dieI don't remember anyone hating on that game here. It's pretty well liked.>2) to spoil the entire game.Yeah, it's pretty much impossible to talk about the game without spoilers.>RatatanThe Pokemon?
>>583717203the press page for nextfest is probably going live tomorrowso thats something to look forward to
>>583718489No, I was thinking of the second game. The one that started the AVGN's career.>>583718540>Yeah, it's pretty much impossible to talk about the game without spoilers.Blah.And no, I mean the game Ratatan, the roguelite Patapon-like.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPWqba2ifNg
>>583717461>RatatanIt's just a cheap copy of patapon
>>583719245Same devs than Patapon, so yeah???
I guess spoilers for XF Extreme FormulaGAY NIGGAS? IN MY RACING GAME??!?
If you wanna play Ratatan, GET A GAMEPAD GET A GAMEPAD GET A GAMEPAD GET A GAMEPAD GET A GAMEPAD GET A GAMEPAD GET A GAMEPAD GET A GAMEPAD GET A GAMEPAD GET A GAMEPAD GET A GAMEPAD
>pike & spearsNah
>>583717461The first time I heard about outer wilds was on 4chan, when the game was still on beta, I downloaded it and the solar system simulation kinda blew my mind back in the day. Wild to think this game was released 10 years ago.I wish more games tried to do what outer wilds did. No upgrades, levels or new unlocks, the progress in entirely in the form of information about the world.
Look where you're going, missy, or you'll fall on your face.
>>583717461>Outer Wildsi want to tell you to blogpost about your progress but there's probably nerds here who still haven't played it for some reason
>>583725654What confuses me with Outer Wilds is that I barely even have time to get my bearings before.Last time, I went in a straight line to the cannon-thing you see exploding when you wake up, and I barely had time to check the whole thing out before everything blew up.>>583726789It's definitely a game you have to play completely blind.
>>583718965>the second gameThat was Simon's Quest>What a horrible night to have a curse.
>>583728360Simon's Quest, right....wait, then what in the fuck is Simon's Curse?
>>583728360
>>583726789I haven't played it because that spaceship feels like ass to steer
>>583726789I haven't played it because I still don't know what it is and kept getting it confused with Outer Worlds
>>583729691simply turn on autopilot from the solar map and then die when the autopilot takes you through the sun>>583731180it is a game about finding things in a solar systemit's very good if you enjoy figuring things out in a way distinct from normal puzzle games
I think in ten years Return of the Obra Dinn is going to be looked back upon not just as a great game, but one of the best puzzle games of all time.
