Visual Novel General #7932This general is for the discussion of English-translated Japanese visual novels.All posting of untranslated visual novels belongs on >>>/jp/E-celeb shitposting is not allowed.Kindly use spoiler tags appropriately when discussing plot spoilers to facilitate smooth discussion.>Having trouble with your VN? Try the following before you ask for tech support:1. Be in Japanese locale2. Read the Readme3. Check https://rentry.org/4chan-vn-help4. Copy error messages with CTRL+C and paste them with CTRL+V into DeepL5. Google it>FAQs, Recommendations, and Other Useful Things:https://chartanon.github.io/moechart/https://files.catbox.moe/j3dd0n.png (embed)https://github.com/marisukukise/japReader>Need a novel with a specific element?https://vndb.org/g>Download Links:https://rentry.org/4chan-vn-linksPrevious thread: >>583098707
KINOmasa
>>583134505>>583134784I am calling the game of indie quality. Using the word indie to describe the studio is pointless in the current year, as Expedition 33 would be an indie game. >>583134690>vagueposting retard
>>>/a/291278523 MOVE
MUMBAImasa
>>583135015>gay twitter buzzworddidn't read this conversation but you're retarded and you lost
>>583135109meticulously handcrafted by the almighty creator for somalis desu
>>583135197>illiterate retard
>>583134764All at the same time...!?
>>5831352510 self awareness
>>583135438>it's retarded
>>583135015>I am calling the game of indie qualityIt's a game from 2006
african fathervenezuelan mother
mindbroke dizayee
>>583135497It was made as a visual novel first, so the devs were free to explore new ideas and make the gameplay part with passion. That's what I like about gameplayges—the scuffed and soulful game part
>>583135675I am the Alice pubes poster and I am happy that she finally found true love and will now stop yuri-baiting us
Continuing the Akiba Lost blogpostation from>>583130935
What triggered dul this time
>>583136124blogpost this nexthttps://vndb.org/v852
>>583135015Now you're backpedalling and engaging in mental gymnastics to try to save face from being called out over your absolute brain dead take on the definition of 'indie'.That aside, Sengoku Rance is the 7th game in the RANCE series. So calling it a Rance game is not the mislabel you believe it to be. It's pretty clear you never played a single Rance game so let me educate you while also exposing you for your idiocy. The RANCE games are centered around RANCE(the games namesake) whose main character trait is his desire to fuck all beautiful girls. It's what drives his motivations and, in large part, drives the plot of the game. There are even in game mechanics that give you bonuses for fucking the girls in tandem with the H-scenes being plot and character relevant as they are either referred to or directly impact the course of the game for some choices(like raping the diviner girl). Without the patch, you are not playing Rance, you are playing some bastardized generic jrpg. Stay in your lane, never speak about Rance again and stick to what you know best: all age yuribait garbage meant to pander towards mentally ill retards like (you).
Kageaki...
>>583136161still malding over chudager for refusing to add his nigger shitposts on the halloween edit and easily overcoming his mumbai spam yesterday
someone post "that" dull webm onegai
>>583136376Based Quof bodied the mong
>>583136161>Someone said something rude about femoids>Someone talked about a VN she doesn't like (triggers her severe autism)
>>583136492Detroon, coquimba and 'dul will never forget yesterday
>>583136496
>>583134773Excellent thread! I approve!
>>583136648kek
IDBLTThat's an endearing quality for a girl, though.>>583135330I wouldn't put it past the Shadow Empress...I really like how Hifumi always acts reserved and coy around you, but whenever there's a dialogue choice to be made, the option that is complimenting her looks, praising her idol photo shoots (which she totally doesn't like) or implying romantic interest always earns you the most points in her favor. Peak woman behavior.
>>583136894>it wasn't just a meme and the FGOcuck is actually a cuckGrim...
Thinking about Morgana and how cool he is.
>>583137157Many have been doing this.
KIMIKAAAAAA!!!
https://vndb.org/w18534
>>583137183
>>583137148That dude is living rent free in your head without posting in months.
Japanese lettuce folded 65 times for maximum crispiness.
>>583136437>>583136942You seem to be lost there, this is a general about visual novels, not Persona, here I will even be nice enough to give you a link to where your posts should be posted to >>582898050
Pity dating?
>>583135525
>>583137148ABchan... You forgot to get rid of the name between posts...
>>583136942P5 needs two sex scenes for each girl. One for the rank 10 and one for valentine.
>>583137616>ignores off-topic EVN shittersNooticing. >>583136437>>583136942Stay here, king. We love honorary vn Persona here.
>>583137748>>ignores off-topic EVN shitters
>>583137661three sex scenes for each girl*one more for bad endings
evens trailsodds new VN
>>583137919
>The historical research of Chinese architecture and gardens under the transformations of historiography in the twentieth centurywhere do the TL notes lead even I know not
chills. literal chills.
>>583136648He can't keep getting away with it!
>>583138117chills. literally chills.
>>583137748Those are clearly visual novels>but it says English-translated Japanese visual novels in the OP.Well the general is clearly called Visual Novel General, should have called it something else if you don't like visual novels being discussed in the visual novel general, or you can fuck off to /jp/ instead
In hindsight, her disguise does make her look like Brown Sherry with glasses which goes well with her real job as a private investigator.
>>583138108gayttler and troonce
>>583137891Not all of them get it though. Only Ann, Makoto and Haru
>>583137640>ABchanWho? What are you talking about? I am a known self-hating cuck who always post about how cuck I am, it is very grim indeed, what's wrong with this?
>seifuku translated as "uniform"So it doesn't just mean "sailor uniform"? Interdasting...
>>583138117>>583138217>>583138395Why are NEGROmasas like this?The Indians of visual novel fans.
o ji i san
>>583138395Me on the left
vns for this feel? besides 1984 i mean.
>>583138530Trying too hard, uminegro.
>>583138530>defending ABdulYou are brown.
>>583138651
>>583136376>As an indie, the gameplay is top notch.When compared within an indie sphere. Use a better AI model next time.>Sengoku Rance is the 7th game in the RANCE series. So calling it a Rance game is not the mislabel you believe it to be.I'm calling it a mislabel because, just as I said before, SR is the most popular Rance game by a margin, which was also the entry point to the series for the majority, or they might've just played it as a standalone and never touched another Rance game after.Why was it Sengoku Rance that blew up, and not the other games with poorer gameplay? Why does everyone mention the gameplay when talking about SR?It's ironic that you brought up IQ when you're trying to use backwards logic to support your argument.Nobody cares about the rest of the series.>Without the patch, you are not playing Rance, you are playing some bastardized generic jrpgWell, that "bastardized generic jrpg" is more popular than the rest of the series. I'd call this the main point why you're arguing, but the truth is that you're still mindbroken to this date by Manosaba, Apothetroon. You just want to argue for the sake of arguing
>>583138568fludy, what mischief have you done this time?
>>583138651detroon loves the bbsee posts abdul makes, despite preaching his love for mahoyoa closet cuck
ABdul spamming all of those edits is 100% proof of him being a man. No real biological women would ever shitpost like this. You faggots enabled a tranny and kept calling him a foid when he clearly enjoys it. He is probably hairier and bigger than most of you here, and yet you treat him like a girl. You retards are why this general is the shithole of /vg/.
IDBLTIt's 6 weeks where I'm from, but in this game, we only had like 3-4.
>>583138794AI generated post.
>>583138530and i will keep it up, whitey.
>>583138992>illiterate retard
>>583138395Your grammar skills, or lack thereof, betray you... Why not make a good post about something you like, instead of shitposting like everyone else? I think we'd both be happier if you did that.
>>583138794mostly dishonest but also partly right: sengoku is a /vrpg/em, unlike the rest of the ranclopverse
>>583139016Bitch bloody bastard why make fun of my English when I do my best?
>>583139065sengoku is not even a top 3 rance game
>>583138456>>583138920see >>583137616
>>583139167yes it is... it's #2 actually
>>583139167Trvke.
>calling her student out over the PA system to share her personal accomplishments with himHoly cute!
>>583138794Sorry chat-gpt, but you're objectively wrong.
>>583139503>it's afraid
WTFNO NO NO YOU WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO SPELL IT OUT!!!!!
>>583138794>As an indie, the gameplay is top notch.You're making up green arrows now.>SR is the most popular Rance game by a marginMaybe it's because it was the only one translated for eight years? lol.>Well, that "bastardized generic jrpg" is more popular than the rest of the series????? Not even 10 people are playing that without the patch?Bro, you need to train the AI better if you want to shitpost about something you have zero knowledge about.
>>583139503>it's retarded
somebody shoulds QC the first 10% of tRANCE's script
Is VC3 a visual novel? Should I blogpost it? Should I date Imca or Riela?
>>583139227number 4 actually in terms of rating: Rance X> Rance 03 > Kichikuou > Sengoku
I can save her...
archiveschizo (me) was right all alonghttps://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/tnum/565360818/deleted/deleted/order/asc/search for aoko, these are abdul posts deleted at the same timehe was pissed about Yorhel as well, for deleting HBR from vndb
>>583139643Copiumbros... you told me she was pure
>Umineko - Beatrice >Muramasa - Chachamaru>Manosaba - MiriaThe KAMI KINO VNs have Trans characters.
>>583139680you don't need to ask us, ask astra instead. its judgement on the subject is superhuman
>>583139672>it's hallucinating
>>583139872forgot Steins;Gate - Lukako
>>583139806KWAB
>>583139385I wish she'd scrape off the lipstick, she has such a cute design barring that.
>>58313976403 and kichikuou are artificially inflated
>>583140048>it's afraid
>>583139872What about Mama?
Have you guys noticed that outside of Umineko and occasional Steins;Gate shitposting, /vn/ barely talk about non-porn VNs?
>>583140048smells like cope lol
>>583139806Oh no no no DULL how are you going to respond??? Archiveschizo-sama please make a collage about him and make more edits of him getting KWAB'd by us the /vn/ anons geeeg he will hate it so much and go full melty mode gaaaag I am a sissy faggot how got molested as a child if you cared btw
Is Angelina the first realistic depiction of a white woman in eroge history?
>>583139914lukako isn't trans
>>583139385>>583139805see >>583137616
>>58314012880% of the medium is porn, we don't like minorities here.
>>583139806
>>583138180Why it's called Akiba Lost and not Aikba Won?
>>583139806Was there any doubts?Only thirdies and browns like doing interracial shitposts.
>>583140171But white women have hips
>>583140128Everyone should read MAO's translation of BLACK SHEEP TOWN.
>>583140243Rokuhara spammer is brown? oh shit
>>583140243americans and germans do be like that
>>583140084>>583140141no it's not: i've been monitoring votes of all top 300 games in my excel and i update them manually, 03 and kichikuou has this dude who spams hidden 10/10 weekly, this has been going on for at least 3 months
>>583140128Someone JUST talked about AI The Somnium Files, bwo...
Thoughts?
IDBLT
>>583140347>it's petrified
>>583140204Explain why Archer is so beloved then when transracial japanese are a minority?
>>583140320Rokuhara is a gyaru-oh
>>583140347What does this have to do with the VN flood? We're not talking about scores here.
>>583140171She looks like she's going to topple over at any second, talk about unbalanced.
>>583140221Because it deals with people getting lost.
What happens if I buy Umineko on Steam?
>>583140103Holy sexo
>>583140465dunno i just trying to incite more shitposting
>i've been monitoring votes of all top 300 games in my excel and i update them manuallyHoly meds
>>583140526Everyone looks like this, it's awful.
>>583140398It's just a tan
>>583140526You've wasted your money while also telling the analytics you like garbage so it can recommend you more of it
>>583140526Ryukishi07 reaches out from the screen and Injects you with estrogen. Horrifying stuff.
>>583140585the sad part is that he doesn't even understand what votes represent
>>583138794>mindbroken by manosabaYou made a retarded, uneducated blanket statement with a manosaba picture attached to the post, so it's only natural to assume you are a fan of the game. Fans of that game have a well documented and observed history of not being too bright and/or being mentally unwell; It's called pattern recognition and something humans have been able to do since they first walked, but I'm sure you'll catch up in due time. As for the rest of your points, the amount of disingenuous gaslighting, mental gymnastics and just plain ignorance doesn't warrant a further response. I already addressed all your points and systematically dismantled them while also proving you are a larper for everyone here to see. Call me 'apothetroon' or w/e other eceleb you see fit to try to bluster and cope. This is your final (you) from me.
What happens if I buy Higurashi on Steam?
>>583140663They know their audience.
>>583140158
>>583140585>it's afraidi'm noticing all the vote manipulation going aroundalso very funnny how once i accused fujos doing the same thing on ooe with hard evidence, they started screeching but at the same time all the new accounts rationg ooe 10/10 every week stopped appearing
>>583140790Everyone looks like this, it's awesome.
>>583140817anyone would be afraid to share a thread with unironically schizophrenics
Chrono Clock had a great common route... and then everything went downhill~ *Review~*(Part 1/21)Disclaimer: I just finished the common route, Makoto route, and the Michiru route. This review is made mainly for them and some other aspects of this game. A whole review for the whole game might happen in the future, so for now it will just be this small part of it.The mindsetI started this game early last year. It was one of my first moege experiences. I played it for multiple months, finishing all of the common route and then I put it on hold and didn't touch it until a couple of days ago to finally finish reading it. When I stopped it back then, I didn't do that because it was bad, I just wasn't in the mood to play it at that time when most of the games I read were... let's say quite heavy? (I/O, Higurashi, and FLOWERS)It is true that I barely have any experience with the pure type of moege, the ones that you can just turn your brain off and "enjoy", but I think the term 'moege' is quite vast and lots of games can be considered it.I know that Key games are considered to be moege?.... With that, I think I have lots of experience with those types of games... The dating simulator moege on the other hand are just... kinda heavy for a man like me, but I want to give them a fair share of my time and see what they are truly about... Maybe this game will actually provide a girl that I will love romantically like the other moebuta?... Maybe...Common routeI will talk a little bit about the common route first... It was truly great! It showed the quirks of each girl in such a good way, even the ones I didn't care about started to get my attention thanks to how they were dealt with. That is especially true for Makoto, Michiru and Kuro... I really wanted to read their routes!...
>>583140790Ryukishi07 still reaches out from the screen to give you a shot of estradiol because he retconned it to be yurislop
>>583140817Thanks for the reminder, gotta give Troonsaba another 1/10
>she's afraid.
>>583139658I'm going to keep using indie to describe lower production value games whether you liked it or not, Apothetroon>Maybe because it was the only one translated for eight years?It was translated when VNs were niche. The rest of the translated series have been out for a long enough time in the current popular era to catch up to SR if they were good>not even 10 people are playing without the patchThat's just factually wrong. You don't even have to go deeper than>it's on steam>it's all ages by default>>583140783Says the retard who wants to move the goalpost to semantics
>>583140919hau~omochikaeri~
>>583140347Rance 03 was around an 8.44 average 3 months ago, so it was still higher rated than sengoku. Kichikuou is more or less the same and it's higher rated on bangumi.
>>583141050ctrl skippedwasted your time again lol
(Part 2/21)For the other girls?... Even though Misaki seemed like my type, the tsun-tsun special type that will tell you to kys but then will tell you to live for her 5 seconds later, quite an interesting bipolar girl, I liked that... But reading her route wasn't my first priority, I might have given her a chance later if the other routes were good for me.DD... the funniest girl xD I always laughed at her "What", that quirk is just super funny!... Her other gimmicks are not bad, but I was afraid that being overused might kill her character for me... I mean appearing for a little bit in the common route and doing that is fine, but can I handle a whole route of just this?...Miu... she got one of my favourite tropes in the medium. The so unlucky girl that an asteroid might legit just drop on her head for no reason... Add to that the being poor thingy and how cute she is?... I wouldn't mind starting her route... But to my knowledge? I need to first beat the other 4 routes first... so I guess I can't go for her yet?...Before I go into the routes, let me specify something... the protagonist was really painful in how he uses his power. I know that he decided that he doesn't want to use it and wants to live without relying too much on it... but in the couple of times he did?... He was such an idiot, it was just painful for me as a reader with three-digit IQ to follow his logic and how he thought about that. Before anything, I am personally not that much older than him, it doesn't really take experience to use the "go back in time 5 minutes" power....Makoto routeWhen I returned to this game, I saw that after like 2 minutes of reading, I started Makoto's route... my favourite girl!... (I think? It is really a hard choice between her and Kuro)
>>583140998>it's afraid
>(Part 2/21)
>(Part 1/21)
>>583141090>Everyone who played Rance calling me retarded over my ragebait is Apothetroon or somethingYou must be really bored.
>Part 1/21
(Part 3/21)The Yakuza daughter who wants to live a normal school life without anyone knowing her true personality... Not a unique plot, but who doesn't like it? V-V I honestly enjoyed the gap in her personality a lot in the common route. I thought that if we got more of that in her route? It would just be super fun to read!..... What we got instead? That dumbass clock plot being introduced quite early in the route and ruining everything....We didn't get any more of that gap or her trying to hide her truth, the clock now just made her show her true self without even bothering to hide anything... now that is not something bad on its own, but when you consider how her character in the common route felt like this whole matter was an actual problem to herself? I can't look at this plot without thinking that this is the way the writer picked to deal with it... and what a shitty way it was.At this point, I started to feel like all the girls will somehow end up with some type of power... we already saw that for all of them, except Misaki (which later on, I think I got a hint in Michiru's route that she also got some type of power we don't know about).\The power Makoto got with the clock was... interesting?... On paper? it is... but how was it used?... Transforming a little bit to do some pranks on the protagonist, going through the city at night and becoming a superhero, and then using it in a fit of jealousy... let's break all of those down.The pranks were nice... but that whole teleporting thing and her leaving all of her clothes each time is just so fucking brain-dead. It just felt like it was added there to make the route more erotic and it doesn't make any sense. Yes, I know that the clock is making her more "daring" but with that logic, just make her shit and piss on the streets while she is at it if it is a matter of acting on impulses or something.... I don't know, it was just stupid!...
>>583140817What does the bold/italics/strikethrough mean? Why does LiL have an asterisk?
We love KINOsona 5 here.
I prefer VN’s with minimal heteronormativity
>>583141306Fanart spam isn't on topic. Know your place.
>(Part 3/21)
(Part 4/21)I remember the protagonist thinking about using his power just to keep looking at her naked... without exaggerating? I was thinking about dropping the whole game if he did it... I appreciated him having some human decency in that scene and not doing it... but her allowing him to go that far is what disgusted me.Him and Makoto's relationship development in this route felt really weird and fast-paced, even when considering the context... as a reader? I just couldn't see how she fell for him from their small amount of interactions... like, the route just started, when did she discover that she liked him... why did she like him?... All of those things didn't get answered and were left for our own imagination... while we were reading her route!...Her becoming a hero... now that is an interesting plot!... How was it dealt with?... We barely see anything about it.... I mean, this route tried to both force a plot-heavy scenario while also giving the biggest share of its time to the moege aspect... the result? Just weird pacing for everything.... like, I didn't see enough at all of her night activities, the route barely showed us any of it, it skipped over most of it and told us what was happening in such a fast way it felt like I was reading a TLDR...Now for the last part, and the one that annoyed me the most.... At some point, when she realized that she indeed loves the protagonist and felt jealous when other girls talk to him, she used her clock powers to turn into another girl and do something bad and put the blame on her, just because she seemed friendly with the protagonist... again, an interesting plot. To see Makoto, a girl who was confirmed to be one of, if not the strongest human on earth, who now also got magical powers... for her to turn into a yandere?... That could create lots of interesting plots!
Why is the review longer than the visual novel
>(Part 4/21)
>>583141326>Everyone who played Manosaba hasn't played another VNYou're the one who has been seething for apparently over a year non-stop at every Manosaba poster. You should find some better things to do in life than crying about VNs on the VN general every single day
>blogposting kokushitwhy tho
Is Manosaba good or not? Should I read it?
>>583141435i'm glad you asked~!>strikethroughfujoshit/gayshit/blshit>cursive thinuntranslated>cursive boldnon-jap vns>asteriskunfinishedi usually segregate them in groups based on that, but lately the un/translated separation started fading because of mtls
>>583141090>i'm gonna reinvent the meaning of indie and double down on my retarded definitionholy fuck just stfu already fucking retard
(Part 5/21)So many ideas you can fit into this route!... What we got in the end?... Just that one act and then a TLDR section about what happened after that and then the ending of the route just hits us....... Ha?... You introduce the most interesting aspect of that route right at the end and just end the game right after it in a little bit?..... But why?.... Why this terrible pacing in the routes when the common route was so fine?.... Why introduce so many things in her route just to end up not delivering on all of them?.... What a bitter taste this left in my mouth!...I just felt really bad that I couldn't see more of her... I truly loved Makoto, cute looking, with a voice actress I never heard before and barely worked on any VNs... and just tons and tons of potential to go very far... all thrown away by trying to fit as much as possible into her route when the game routes are all short and will get very hurt from just throwing every plot and praying some of it will stick and make the reader like it...But even with all of that being said, her route wasn't bad for me. Being all over the place with that pacing and all the plots it introduced, it was engaging and attention-grabbing. Something very rare for moege. Add to that how solid the game looks, and all the little details here and there... it was an acceptable - fine route.
>>583141632Another 1/10, coming right up>>583141682Are you transgender? If so, yes.
>>583141682The OST is good.
Would be hilarious if he gets banned again for spam before he can finish posting his review
>>583141658Morgana is so cool.
Thank you, ABchan. You have saved the thread.
>(Part 5/21)
>>583141807Everyone here says this.
who hurt dull?
>>583141759
>>583141632Nigga, I'm not even him. I don't even know who you're talking about. You picked a fight with a random VN just because you don't like someone who played it. I'm neutral about Saba.
>>583141871Is this Dissonance?
At this point why not just write a fucking book
(Part 6/21)Before I leave her route, I talked about how the protagonist doesn't utilize his powers like a normal human being, this route got 2 good examples of that:-When Michiru challenged Makoto to a duel... why couldn't he ask her to make some type of rule so that she doesn't use her powers?..... He knows the whole situation and how Michiru not being able to smell her when she changes her appearance would be a killing blow to her. Why not tell Makoto in secret to have this rule?... Like I knew he would use the clock to go back in time and fix this whole situation, but couldn't him telling her that since the beginning have been productive to how he can instead use the clock if Michiru somehow still lost?... Which btw, seeing how truly strong Makoto is, she would have still won that match. But at least I would've seen the protagonist utilizing his power instead of just... wasting everyone's time?...The other example is when Makoto broke the window while pretending to be someone else ..... So everyone in the whole class/school cared, and he didn't even though he is thinking about Makoto the whole time and he doesn't see her in class and couldn't contact her?........ Imagine if he cared since the beginning, and then just used his powers to see that happen at the start and try to stop it..... But what we got instead is some BS that led up to her not getting punished for it at all, and somehow Misaki not getting in any trouble even though she is the only suspect and the whole school got no other suspect... you know what? This whole plot was thrown out of the window (no pun intended) as if it never happened or no one got bothered by it when in Japan, something like that is quite big.... guess I'm teaching the Japanese writer about their own culture now?...... Unless he expected the moebuta to just eat it up without uttering a word about how stupid this whole plot is?....
>(Part 6/21)
>>583141759>Are you Yasu or Chachamaru You can't just ask somebody that
>>583141946>he doesn't know
>>583141920
(Part 7/21)Just in general, he could have fixed lots of things if he only... explained the whole thing to her and how he also got some powers in his watch and how the watch is affecting her... he could have even lied to her and made Kuro tell her that the watch is going to kill her... lots of things could have been done to convince her about leaving it... funny enough? This is how he convinced her in the end!! With a lie that was covered as a romantic miracle... but in truth?... It was still a lie, something he could have done ages ago to just deal with this whole situation way better...He loved her and cared about her so much, why couldn't he trust her with the truth of his watch when she herself trusted him so much that he was the only person who knew about her secret?.... It is not like he can't tell anyone about the watch, there was no rule about this. I understand why he couldn't tell most people around him, but Makoto?... The situation was really calling for that and he never did that until the last second when it was already too late....Michiru routeAs for Michiru... the imouto that is obsessed with her Nii-sama and would not miss a chance to make a comment about wishing to molest him... in the common route, those bits of her were actually soulful and funny to read. Add to that the fact she is blind... I personally adore handicapped girls, not because I got some type of saviour syndrome, but because I just find them very cute and unique T-TMichiru had very high stakes in my heart and had the full potential to be the best girl now that Makoto's route wasn't really what I wished for, it was her time to shine... or that is at least what I wished for.
>Umineko is constantly shitposted yet nobody bring up the fighting game to use as shitposting fuelIs it THAT mid?
Temporary filter for anyone who wants to block both the spam, and people reacting like retards to the spam:/\(Part \d\/21\)/;boards:vg;op:no;stubs:no;
>(Part 7/21)
>>583142181>it (she)'s fvcking terrified