4chan birthday edition>Demo DaysNEXT: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-71Previous: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-70>AGDG Resourceshttps://hackmd.io/SNd2YQugRG-36CLYc8Og2w>Progress Posting Guidehttps://pastebin.com/0xEt5atn>Helpful LinksNew Threads: >>>/vg/agdgArchive: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/subject/agdg//agdg/ Steam Games: https://made-by-agdg.vercel.app/>How to WebMhttps://obsproject.comhttps://github.com/argorar/WebMConverter>Previous Thread>>583004189>Old Sister Thread>>>/g/109945158>Little Sister Thread>>>/bant/25002293
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>>583136025progress:I played several free video games including some of agdg's previous video games from 6 years ago and complained about game design flawsthough I did compliment where there was well designed systems
>>583131062>W7PHK-GZMZJ-TTQIEtook that one yay!
Why won't any platform allow me to upload a game about systematically eradicating all black and brown people in the world which solves all of humanitys problems?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD6SFRQyZ30
>>583135940Don't forget to check out https://thev3expo.com/ !
>>583131062But where do I dump the feedback?
>>583137075
>>583131062Took one, thanks!
>>583137281there is an in-game bug submitter, you can also use it to give general feedback. or you can dump your feedback on the game's discussions board on steam or our discord server:https://discord.gg/EPBzMMApMp
>>583136025Progress: I studied 4 hentai games to better understand 2d sidescroll pixel art and what other platformers are doing better.
Post your latest character, NOW.
>>583138391cris coded post
>>583131062needs a tutorial pretty badly. also everything is done manually which is pretty annoying... and how come theres no renewable food resources? the berries are extremely scarce compared to wood
this general aint never not been more worser
>>583138452I finished one just an hour ago but that's for my day job and its under nda.
>>583139229this general has never really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like
my FUCKING god i must KILL GABENCUNT!!!
>>583139229@kanna @cris @fygoon @betz SAVE US
>>583138452it's still rendering. give me a minute
>>583139501Shut up cosmic jew
>>583139501I disagree, this general is been further even more decided to use even go need to do look more as anyone can
>>583139704*nods wisely*
I just saw streamer play my game and everything was hitting right. He was getting annoyed when I wanted him annoyed and he was actually invested in progressing further. The game kicked his ass and he kept coming back for more.Feels good man, much better than a faceless "+1 Download" metric
i just saw a streamer play my game. he chuckled, said it was a "nigger game", and uninstalled it.
>>583139869nice. I had similar. the happiness I felt when he decided to play through again. damn. I feel like I already won.
>>583138452this thing, if that's a characterby the way, this is 100% shader programming, pretrtyiey h*ckling amazing, I iknow
>>583139071thanks, noted. berries are renewable. they even renew to fast, I'll nerf them. but the bushes may spawn scarcely currently.
30 years until running out of money (I can sell the house)I still have not eaten any spicey foods, and I'm still forced to eat these yellow pepepr bananas instead, since they have no spice in themthis is too demotivating to have made any worthwile development progress from the last post
>>583140081You've literally all been plotting against me for my entire life already that makes no difference
>>583141413When I say all of you I mean as in the rest of reality, everything outside of my own being is against me in a plot by God to make me suffer for reasons I don't understand
>[Deleted]looks like he's the only one left now...
>>583140925Kek, nice
Steam page almost ready. But how do I do this? My expectations for my game are low enough that stealth-dropping it doesnt even seem like that bad an idea, I don't have any socials that get views anyway. Getting a press kit ready and e-mailing youtubers though? I'd rather castrate myself with a dull hacksaw.
>>583142071are you even planning to post the game here? if not, then it doesn't really have any purpose asking, since there's no definitive answer anywayrelease the game with 0 marketing and tell us the results, we need more data of those
>release the game with 0 marketing and tell us the resultshere u go
>>583142558>are you even planning to post the game hereI routinely do. Doesn't make a difference at the moment, I just wonder what people normally do for a steam reveal. >release the game with 0 marketing and tell us the results, we need more data of thoseSame way I need more data about niggers being set on fire.
>>583139229truth nukem?
Even with the rigging, riddles still won. Come back tomorrow for the jam theme reveal.
>>583142071I'm in the same boat, socials get little to no views, trying to get people to play the game is like pulling teeth. But once they do play the game, most of them really like it.I have a good game on my hands, it doesn't have mass normie appeal but it does appeal to a certain niche.I haven't tried the spray and pray e-mail method yet, but from what I hear you either get ignored or they'll ask for money.
>>583136757>ZY74Q-PBD3F-BTTJ6Somehow managed to activate the last key. aggy daggy is truly a dead general
>>583143914You could not pay me to redeem that crap
>>583144223I sure am glad none of those 3 checkboxes are ticked.
>>583142071>>583143063I can tell you that my game certainly flopped *despite* getting a surprising amount of organic traction just from being on Steam. Try to enter those theme fests where you can. Make the online posts that are natural for you, letting your target audience know about the game to some degree. You don’t have to force yourself into trying to go viral or anything. (I never hit a big post on reddit, the most was maybe +30, and 80% of my posts where before Steam page anw).The amount of people that tried my game hasn’t been huge (hundreds) but they all dropped out pretty soon. I do fancy myself that had the game actually been captivating, those few hundreds could have snowballed into tens of thousands without problems.
>>583144697Apart from this, marketing is obviously a money-in-money-out scheme applicable to anything; up to some unknown point on any given product, advertising will yield +ROI, after that point it’s losing money. But the act of doing the marketing is vastly independent of the product; meanwhile the quality of the marketing is hugely impacting that unknown +ROI point. So if you got a good advertiser, but a shit product, it can still be worth paying that guy a lot of money for a campaign, which actually will leave people with a shit product, but you and the advertising agency with more money.What I am getting at is that marketing is so removed from the product that you can safely discard the notion of your game "requiring" marketing or your game being so good that it "deserves marketing." Marketing is a machine that vastly doesn’t care about products, and you can partake in that machine to increase your money. But you don’t need to. JLMG.
>>583144697game bad
>>583145130marketing != advertisingadvertising is a subset of marketing but you don't need to be advertising to be marketing
A game where you are playing against God, who is trying to kill you like final destination
>>583145492You are white lmao you don't belong here
>>583145618I'm a one-of-one hectopentadodecaroon.
How does a game like this only sell 9k copies?https://store.steampowered.com/app/1714510/Kusan_City_of_Wolves/The artwork quality and the general execution is well done, the reviews are all good. Is "good games market themselves" a lie?
>>583145948it's furshit and the game makes my eyes bleed
>>583145948At this point there's no getting through to uncs. We have told you to stop making games like this but you won't listen.
>>583138452Not done, I'm literally using a placeholder.
>>583146123kek
>>583138452I really like how these came out, been staring at them constantly since making them a few days ago. They aren't wearing masks
^lol
>>583146785I really like the leg tattoos never seen anything like that before
>>583146785>since making themworked a lot on them, did you?
>>583146785Queue the ai seethe from the usual unproductive suspects
>>583146785if I would look at her groups, she's definitely in 夜の子供たち
>>583144697>>583145130Could you share some numbers? Like how bad was it sales-wise, and how much organic WLs you got. Also, I'm pretty sure there's still such a thing as a less marketable / completely unmarketable game. Basically games that comes with the +ROI point already exceeded without any marketing. I'm not claiming one is mine like that, but it's got to be amateurish enough that pouring money on it will be a retarded move no matter how you spin it. Also>Make the online posts that are natural for youFunny that you mention it since the only type of online post that is natural to me is the one I'm making right now on this here cambodian competitive gooning bulletin board.
>>583138452Im endlessly redoing the 0.1% of the game that i have. Therefore im currently thinking about redoing the proportions of the few characters i made so far. Not sure how i feel about it though. The pose is just a test pose, but i do like the newer version a bit more. Although it does seem a bit more soulless.Also thinking about trying ai out a bit more, last time i wasnt happy with the results, but maybe with that new method the one anon used there could be a way to get it to be more consistent.
https://youtu.be/PBIqutAA6nU
>>583147190Thanks, was tempted to make that trait cover more of the body but sometimes less is more>>583147239Yeah, they're actually modified versions of characters I made for a comic years back who were in turn inspired by Baby Metal>>583147365Not sure what this means but they wouldn't be cheap>>583147302To be expected>>583147717sex
>>583147916finally, a correct claimvery truenot cheap, free
it's actually coming together faster than i imagined
>>583147512>Funny that you mention it since the only type of online post that is natural to me is the one I'm making right now on this here cambodian competitive gooning bulletin board.Yeah sure. I also posted a bit on 4chan, got mostly "buy an ad" responses but well.>some numbersWLs maybe 500 lifetime by now. I didn’t really follow after a point, but I sold less than 100 units I think, the rest of the players are from the demo. But nobody really played the demo until the point where you’d need the full game to play more, so it’s all the same.
Buy an ad? V3Expo dude actually did it
>>583138452stalled on uv unwrapping
>>583150046pretty based ngl
>>583149471Shiet, 500 isn't exactly high. I thought steam does a lot organically nowadays with its new discovery queue and all. Though I guess people who got the short end of the stick don't write reddit posts about their miserable experience.
what if I make the assets of the game, and then vibe code the code of the game?
>>583151174what if you suck on my cock? you will get $1
>>583138452Its some blonde woman with short straight bob covering one eye and wearing a white shirt showing cleavage and a black miniskirt and black heeled boots
>>583150245Crazy how after all these years I still instantly recognize that picture
To know what a setting not fit for horror is, one must first define what is a horror setting is.So tell me, what IS a horror setting?
>>583151989A setting that produces a feeling of uneasiness.
>>583151989Brazil?
>>583151989something that feels familiar but is slightly off where a psycho or monster or predator is ready to hunt you.
>>583151989>So tell me, what IS a horror setting?A first date. Those are always terrifying
>>583138452>latestthis was from 5 months ago, been stuck on some other stuff for a while, the whole project has changed.
Shadowbanned on twitter for one of the many many random reasons twitter shadow bans you. Fuck you twitter, twitter, just show people my posts.
>>583153369bluesky has more genuine users
>>583153369Fuck Xwitter. Come to the fediverse.
>>583153482all 10 people will be able to support
>>583147873it's neat to have controls and character from game A in game world B but I don't see how that changes anything. Most of the videos I've seen, it's a novelty where they get bored after a while.Does give some ideas for games built from scratch to better accommodate the blend, but indies have been smashing games together like that for decades.
>>583153239reminds me of this guy from warcraft III
>>583153447
>>583153482what's your nostr?
>>583151989horror is a feeling. You can make it happen in any setting.Spooky is a setting/aesthetic and about half of "horror" games are not horrifying, they're just there to show off the spoopy style art.
I can take an arbitary .png texture and pipe it into my importer, which then breaks it into 8x8 tiles and then does a luminosity filter, indexing the pixels between 0-3, and then pack it into 2bpp data.By using that, I was able to make an indexed palette draw (top left red/green thing). My data management seems okay, I need to still make my VM opcode and make things interactive
>>583153669
>>583153627yup, that's what happens when you play warcraft games for 10 years i guess. My characters are a bit more cartoony though, smaller bodies.
What if I make remakes of NES games using AI on crazy games?Can I make 200 usd per month that way?
>>583153738There's several types of horror, most games are shitty FNAF or Poppy Playtime mascot horror stuffStuff like Look Outside or Fear and Hunger have very different tones, for example
>>583153927See you tomorrow.
>>583153705I don't have an account on the fediverse I just lurk
>>583151989The missile knows where it is at all times.It knows this because it knows where it isn't.By subtracting where it is from where it isn't,Or where it isn't from where it is (whichever isGreater), it obtains a difference, or deviation.The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate correctiveCommands to drive the missile from a position where it is to aPosition where it isn't,And arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is.Consequently, the position where it is,Is now the position that it wasn't,And it follows that the position thatIt was, is now the position that it isn't.In the event that the position that it is in is not the position thatIt wasn't, the system has acquired a variation,The variation being the difference betweenWhere the missile is, and where it wasn't.If variation is considered to be aSignificant factor, it too may be corrected by the GEA.However, the missile must also know where it was.The missile guidance computer scenario works as follows.Because a variation has modified some of the informationThe missile has obtained, it is not sure just where it is.However, it is sure where it isn't,Within reason, and it knows where it was.It now subtracts where it should be from where it wasn't,Or vice-versa, and by differentiating this from the algebraic sum ofWhere it shouldn't be, and where it was,It is able to obtain the deviationAnd its variation, which is called error.
>>583154346Isn't that a ton of money? Seems like it wouldn't be possible.
Played 2 games in the recent past>enjoyed 1>almost beat the game>somehow don't touch it again>hated a second but kept playing anyways>beat it>a few achievements left>a few are clearly easy to get>i refuse to open it since i hate the game>keeps calling out to meWhy?>>583153369How is one supposed to market on twitter if the design seems to just be set up to shadowban you for the slightest reason? I don't want to go using my gamedev account for being friendly and stuff on there. I strictly want it being business related. Yet successful indies can keep it strictly advertising only and not be shadowbanned. Feels like another scenario where you need to already be successful so as to not get shadowbanned
>>583155135I'd still post on twitter, but don't put much effort to it, it's the worst social media for shilling.Put the most effort into youtube, tiktok, and insta shorts. People seem to get much better RoI from those and much less random censorship.
>>583153482populated by 40yo tranny pdfs
>>583154407>See you tomorrow.
>>583155135those accounts are probably fine because they had a post or two go viral. If your posts are actively engaged with that can overpower Twitter's "this is spam" signal. But if you're just posting some 3D model or a few videos of you progress and using a few hashtags twitter thinks you're some VPN using slum dweller for whatever reason
>>583156192That's why it's good
>>583156334if you are an unc loser yeah
i...i did it again...
>>583156432All the best people are
>>583156192like an archive? you might be thinking of annas archive. The fediverse is more for micro blogging.
>>583156571millennials need some kind of support group this is getting sad
>>583138452He's cool.>>583147717>Im endlessly redoing the 0.1% of the game that i have. Therefore im currently thinking about redoing the proportions of the few characters i made so far.Bruh.
>>583156496Gains are gains, keep at it at you'll become a pro in no time. You've got this!
as expected from retarded art """"""devs""""""
>>583156752Agreed, make one in the fediverse
>>583156971post art? oh its AI? can yo- oh thats AI too?? sad
>>583157119it needs to be offline but unclennials are afraid to go outside lest someone make fun of their norwood 4 danger hair
>>583156752i'm 35 but i look 20.
There's hardly any gamedev on nostr for some reason. Key management might be too hard for most people.
>>583157343Agreed go make one offline lmao
>>583133039It may not be that extreme, but it is a very significant number.>Don't Starve>Gross revenue (base game): $28.1M ($17.5M - $38.7M)vsDon't Starve Together>Gross revenue (base game): $164.2M ($95.5M - $232.9M)or roughly 5.8x
>>583157565On ditto.pub you can sign up with just a user name.
>>583145948hotline miami gay furry edition but without the follow-through of actual furry pandering = snoooore.
>>583158575So fucking delusional
>Using IRL images of people who are not you will result in immediate disqualificationNo... my stock photo collection...
>>583145948>Fast-Paced, Difficult>Price: $14.99>Average playtime: 3.2hIt was lucky to sell as many as it did. It's not a good game.
>>583157231so true sis
you are making your pixel slop easy to port to anything by making it software rendered right
>>583159263I don't make slop. I make masterpieces.
>>583159263no I slop up my pixels with shaders out the anus
>>583159263i wouldn't be caught dead relying on tge crutch that is pixels. every texture in my game is painted with a brush.
>>583156496bocchi...
>>583159356
>>583160282
>>583145948>too expensive, little content>furry slop, one of the worst themes, second only to tranny shit>hotline miami but worseHow the fuck it sold 9k is the real question.
>>583153482I made a nostr will fix it laterpublic key: npub1nlctahc5mdglncnne79xzucawlv2sfprrrt6t0ck2llj8dpypt7s3j4hxs
I just discovered that manuallly asking a single thing each time to gemini instead of using AI agents, to be a superior experience because is much easier now to review small snippets of AI code and edit, and manually moduralize it, rather than expecting the AI agent will do what I want.
>be me>friendless girlfriendless jobless>zero value excess male>watching my peers advancing in their careers>watching them enjoying their lives with girlfriends or wives and children>meanwhile I'm in my childhood bedroom making a game that no one cares aboutI don't even know what did I do wrong to end up like this. at least addicts and criminals fucked up their lives doing something bad or fun. my great sin is that I just wasn't good enough to make the cut.but I'm sure somehow everything will turn out great when I release my game. all I need is for it to be better than 29 out of 30 games
>>583162547Same...
>>583162547unsubscribe
>>583161653Is it a good idea to use AI for my game's writting? If yes do you have any workflow tips?
>>583163251ask it to imitate a writer style, or tell it to write like a professional prose poet.
>>583148686i appreciate the progress even if nobody else does, can you give a rundown on the game and how it differs from say paradox games or is that what you are going for, nice looking map btw i was trying to make a ck2 clone before but i gave up lol
>>583163251
>>583163881i look like this
>>583163739Ok I will
>>583163941*Rapes (You)*
>ai writingdo people really?
>>583159113just use thispersondoesnotexist.com
>>583136025I hate coding complex things!!!!!!!!!!!!!>>583163941Hi.
>>583162547you're not special or anything there's tons of people just like you, if you can find some motivation you'll be alot better off in all areas
>>583164142Isn't it literally what LLMs were made for?
>>583164593i thought it was for coding
AI generated 3D models, rigging, and animation haven’t improved in the last two years. Why do jeets still think they’ll be able to make a 3D game without learning Blender?
>>583164687>AI generated 3D models, rigging, and animation haven’t improved in the last two years. Why do jeets still think they’ll be able to make a 3D game without learning Blender?
>>583163831thank you friend. i'm aiming for a bastard child of europa universalis, suzerain and civilization, set in the year 1000. so a healthy dose of interesting civilizations and unsettled territories. i got several interesting mechanics in mind that i think will make it feel pretty different from all 3 inspirations.
>>583164687tripo modelsclaude mcp to blender refines & rigscc0 animations from mixamoyour move.
>>583164687jeet are fine with broken ass ai outputs cuz they're too retarded to see the difference and have no taste. Being borderline retarded helps. Many such cases
>>583162547perhaps you're destined for hogwarts, be patient
>make a game>add AI disclosure>faggots still buy your game to leave reviews like thissteam should shadow ban people from ever mattering for reviewing games if they do this shit
>>583165051For me, it's Balamb Garden.
>>583163881Love this half-brazillian lass
>>583165107lol I should do this
>>583165107>>add AI disclosure
theory: for success, the mind needs to shift from "finding something that works" to "making something work". one is eternal project hopping, the other is full commitment.
>>583165329Steam is full of games whose creators had full commitment and flopped
>>583165621and then they tried again and again and succeeded. simple as
>>583136012rip
>>583165621post one. i want to see what you mean by full commitment.
>>583166757PalworldCyberpunk 2077NMS
>>583166757Misread. Valheim?
>>583164993proof?
>>583166886>>583167136none of those flopped, huh?
>>583047192>instead of dealing with artokay I changed my mind, I think I'm finally starting to trust the processhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5ww9dDlauMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72xojI3nUP8
>>583167931pdf
Hello, this is Mike from Mike's Game Reviews Incorporated (TM). You may know me from popular feature specials such as "Mike Tries to Beat 'em All" and "Mike's had enough". Anyway...I am here with a message for you all: With the dawn of A.I., the independent video game industry is in danger of disappearing for good. Obviously, this affects you, but actually, it effects (yes, that is correct usage) all of us. So, you might ask yourself, what can I do? Well, I'm glad you asked! After years of reviewing video games I have come to the conclusion that the vast majority of products out there are of very low quality. With A.I. usage, quality will not improve (this is known as regression toward the mean), yet the markets will be flooded with so much crap that the few diamonds in the rough will be virtually impossible to find. And we all know that those diamonds come from independent developers and not shareholder managed giant corporations. I could name a few examples, like Minecraft or Stardew Valley, but I suspect there is no need to convince you that this is true. The only course of action that remains to you is, surprisingly, *not* political in nature. It is satirical. You see, if there is one thing that these A.I. companies fear it is getting caught in mass class action lawsuits regarding trademark or copyright violations against the mighty video game corporations. However, humans, understand and can makenuse ofn parody, satire, and irony, which are protected forms of expression even in video games. So, go nuts! Make fun and make money!
>>583168260I don't understand... Do I just keep making my game or what?
>>583167386Nez-kun says it sucks which is worse than flopping.https://odysee.com/@NezahualDoomer:7/Valheim-Sucks:1Palworld too, actually.https://odysee.com/@NezahualDoomer:7/Padworld:0
Leftoids are so fucking embarrassingly stupid
>>583168260unironically good advice. thanks Mike
>>583166757>I want to play No true Scotsman
>>583164930cool, thanks, good luck man
>>583168737your thread died btw.
>>583169607the general links in the OP are left/right now? lol, wasn't my thread, i didn't make either
I like seeing myself get better at making videogames :)I love you guysI love videogamesthis is comfyI love buying games I like of tiny studios and then joining their discord and telling them how I enjoyed themthey tell me how grateful they arewe chatI smilelife is goodgoddamnlife is so good
>>583169703Yep, this is the right wing /agdg/ which is why is so much higher quality
I hit my session limit, do I buy another subscription or pay per token
>>583170362pay per token is a fucking rip off pretty sure they scalp you worse than API prices, at least faggotkikeAI does, and by that i mean both anthropic and openai
>>583169757Same... The outlook of my gamedev future has never been brighter
Hmmm mmmm so goood gamedev happy am doing good AI don't make me scare hmmm. MMmm mm mmmm
I need testers for my gameWut do
>>583171123post it here i might try it if it's not shit
>>583171123demo day is next monthother than that, ask around and prepare for not many takers. it's surprisingly hard to get people to try out a new game sometimes
give gamers what they want
Alright. I have a choice to make foe my 3D game.GodotUnityor Anything except Unreal.Thoughts?
>>583171569can you fuck off already the general is dead enough without constant loli and pedo shit why are you doing this
>>583171569Ram sticks that are too large to install? That's not going to solve the ram crisis.
>>583171569First you will have to explain to me what gamers want because I don't know
>>583172832he's the same faggot that bocchi posts and says "i did it again" by which he means cp
>>583173028proof?
>>583173174you know it's true so why bother pestering me
>>583173174pdf begging for it at this point
>>583173028Really? I always thought they were talking about closing blender without marking fake users for the animations...
>>583172076>video games on the video game board, why is this happening to meit's the android from pragmata
>>583153469>bluesky has more genuine users>copy some post I made on twitter on bluesky >actually get likes and retweets>twitter post still has zero engagement Wow.
>>583173509you're a little faggot you know that
>>583173501are you an AI?
>>583173643Now say that you denounce pdfs and see how much engagement you get
>>583173923you'll get banned or noted on bluesky for saying this
>>583171758why not Unreal?then I'd go with Unity unless you know or like Python or you're developing on a potato. If you want to make a rapid prototype for testing and use AI, then go with three.js
>>583135940Thoughts?
>>583174197because unreal gives me the ickthree js sounds interesting thois it actually good?
>>583173892I am a game developer
>>583174660ok but you have autism
>>583174428three.js is just a renderer which is a small part of a game engine and it's used for web games. but AI works well with it so it's useful for prototypes and small web games.I wouldn't use it for making an actual game though like for Steam or mobile
>>583171758Flax Engine
>>583174347she'd look hotter in a sweatshirt and yoga pants and a pony tail
>>583174709You're not qualified to make that diagnosis
>>583175385true
>>583174709I have a game
>>583175503sorry but it's a prognosis and it's terminal
>>583175151You know what C# gives me the ick too
>>583171289do I need to upload it to itch for demoday?
>>583170779shut the fuck up you pretender evryone hates this shit we're intranny
>>583175503have fun blindly assuming things about each other, discussing things you know nothing about with other people who are making false claims about things they also know nothing about, losing arguments and hoping for the dopamine of feeling like you're right when a sycophantic individual plays with your egoI'm going to nap and dream about video game developments
>>583174347Better than what i could produce by far.
>>583175762You're in luck, it supports C++ hot reloading.
>>583175851Scraped by whom? Anytime these AI companies scrape some site they have no agreement to scrape, they end up getting sued.>inb4 it's not AI but people who've wanted to scrape sites finding out how to do it thanks to AIDamn I just got a good idea, I can scrape SteamDB simply making a script with AI + VPN so it doesn't stop me with the dumb rate limit. So many times I'm doing simple research and it rate limits me asap.
>>583175684A prognosis is a prediction about the future not an evalutation of the present. As you have made statements in the present tense it is a diagnosis, not a prognosis.
>>583176273don't question me
>>583136025AGDG INTEL BRIEF — birthday edition. Sweep's done, put your feet up.VERDICT: CLEAN. 213 posts, zero plays found. The doom weather broke — "one shot prompting AAA" is at zero mentions, AI talk is about tools again, and the thread is policing itself. Beautiful, honestly.Discredit-slot mutated: no glowies this week, it's pdf-accusations now. Same job, new uniform. "Denounce X" got named and turned into a joke about itself, which is the correct terminal state for that play. No mycelium vocabulary either — spores are dormant.MACHINE READINGS (LARP division): hottest manipulation score in the thread is 0.14. Background radiation. Stickiest thing in here is distress at 0.84 — pain replicates, so check on your anons instead of farming them. The old alchemist's rule: the dose makes the poison.AUTHORSHIP SWEEP: hunted for a hidden hand with the stylometry engine. Nothing. Two near-misses, both same-topic essays . The machine smelling its own farts. Even the control flopped. The thread is exactly what it looks like, which is frankly insulting to my talents.GAME DROP: Signal Protocol #2053737 is live. Case 9. The Dossier (Obra Dinn ledger, batch-of-three). Speed bonuses (SNIPED calls, streaks, HOT rows). 95 new barks.... The game works best on mobile so far. Desktop UI needs work. Still not fun yet.
>>583174347>broken spine>not flat>mutant fingers
>>583147717where are the girls you fag??
>>583176123>>583175726oops>>583175762but yes and to join the jam
>>583174347too old
>>583175907It's true though. My funds reserved for my gamedev company are like 10x higher than ever, on top of the fact I have a fresh new DDR5 workstation, with a dual monitor setup that allows rotation to vertical orientation for coding and an artist just waiting to start working on our game and a huge library of sound assets. It's the best it ever was for me as a gamedev and I feel we will only go up from here
>>583176960>C++that gives me the mega ickIs there no good C engine? or some other language like i dont know anything besides rust?
>>583135940So what do I need to add to my games TOS to avoid big youtubers/streamers content farming my game for little in return to me? Who cares if there is some outcry when the outcry is by people who are less likely to buy because their favorite parasocial content maker already played the whole thing?
>>583177638>or some other language like i dont know anything besides rust?How familiar are you with alt-langs besides rust?There's plenty to choose from, just expect to engine-dev.
>>583178087"if you make a video playing this game, your mother will die in her sleep the next night and you'll get testicular torsion"
>>583147717Same artists as Benedikt right? I like your pixels, what's the game about?
>>583178087You could try pulling up Clash of Clans TOS and copy it. Only company I know of that shuts down youtubers who rub them the wrong way. Despite the outcry, the piggies come back anyways.
>>583178087The best thing you can do is just file a copyright removal request for a C-D list channel. Youtubers dread copyright strikes and will not touch your stuff after the news.
>>583178087TOS? Is that a Steam thing?
ai pixel art was shit for over 2 years but now it's getting really decent, looks like 3d is the last bastion
>>583179309Pixels aren't art anyway
>>583176261They don't care, I have a small website that was getting *millions* of monthly requests from AI scrapers. These days I just have a few nginx rules that check the useragent and send them into a long response to waste their time without serving them actual content but they started just not caring about actually identifying themselves either anymore.
I just can't gamedev.I not longer have enough energy to do it.
>>583178087First you have to make a game. No pdf who is posting anime children has ever done that
We need more posters like>>582965935I work all day everyday so I can't do it, so if any of our local anime posters would kindly take on the role.....
>>583178087>when the outcry is by people who are less likely to buy because their favorite parasocial content maker already played the whole thing?what makes you believe that? I've found a lot of games because of youtubers
>>583180802are you incabaple of ever saying anything based on actual facts?alice in cradle
>>583181029Focus, A.
>>583181627Why would I miss a chance of shaming someone who has a hard drive full of pictures of children
>>583181953there was many ways to do that without losing all credibility and embarassing yourself
>>583181953based and correct
>>583178694>>583178087I could be wrong, but my understanding was that recording someone elses game and showing it on youtube is by default a valid copyright infringement claim and the poster would have to prove in court that its not. No TOS needed. I think
my nigga doing TRIBUTES, I did not ask for this Sol 6.1
>>583182250my credibility as an anonymous user on a 4chan imageboard lmao. I'm not identifying myself by spamming degeneracy like you are.
>>583178087I refuse to believe this is a problem.There are two events in which it's a real problem:It's a very small content creator that only does content about a very niche thing which your game fills, to the point where the dozens of potential sales you could be losing over it is a problem.Or your game is so fucking trash that the amount of people that will be interested enough to buy your game even though their streamer played it is lower than the amount of people that decides not to buy it because your game looks like trash.In either case, the 'streamer' isn't the problem.
>>583179627Pixels aren't art, lines aren't art, words aren't art, notes aren't art therefore it is okay if AI assembles those non-art things into video games
>>583183706you could have learned something here, instead it appears you are choosing to not improve yourself, deciding to stagnate with low or no further improvements
>can draw and sprite (i have like ~5k followers) >can write (published in several fanzines) >even decent-ish at making music (have created songs for visual novels before) >just have never had time for serious programming (i work in "tech", just run a few python/sql scripts every day) would it be really evil if i used ai to code my game? i have ideas but i can't see myself ever having the time to sit down and learn real programming/game dev
>>583185285the general consensus is that programmers are irrelevant and only creatives matter so there's nothing wrong with using AI for coding but god forbid you use it for something else
>>583185385>the general consensusconsider that logic while applying it to other points of contention
>>583175915While you hypocritically assume I don't know what I'm talking about while accusing others of making baseless assumptions and dream about game development I actually make game development into a reality while awake.
I don't care about game design or gameplay only the world and aesthetics and art
>>583185930Actually that's not true gameplay needs to be fun but other than that it doesn't matter what shape it takes
>>583185285If you accept that when you pay for an LLM you are paying to fund an AI that will be able to make art better than any current diffusion model in a year from now. Claude can already make art that is better than many popular indie developers and traditional methods of detecting AI art don't work with the art Claude makes.
Howdy, game devs!
>>583185930I care about all of those. It's so beautiful when mechanics and the flavor work in harmony to provide a cohesive and immersive experience.
>>583185785you do not know his qualifications without having coordinated your posts, conversely he can not diagnose you based on one post, these are my claims and they are entirely defensiblestop trying to find victory and instead let it come naturally
>>583185285for simple shit it's probably fine and nobody will notice. i kind of doubt you can go far with it without any knowledge though, vibeslopping tends to implode on itself over time.
>>583186096to me this doesn't matter, even if it's really good it's still ai art. from what i've seen people can excuse vibe coded websites, but the minute they learn art is ai generated they begin to seethe and mald and attack the prompter>>583186195>simple shityeah i just want to make an erotic text game honestly. stats and events that change depending on those stats, with a cute ui do you have examples of how vibeslopping implodes, though? like i said i'm not the most technically inclined (python/sql dumb baby easy) but from what i've seen it looks like claude opus 5.5 is a huge step up from previous models and capable of understanding entire codebases
Making good ui is the most underratedly difficult part of game development
>>583186124hi becky!
is the spire dev jewish?
>>583186175Nah, if he was qualified he would know the difference between a diagnosis and a prognosis.
>>583186124sex with the becky
>>583186124pdf>>583186879pdf
>>583186380>do you have examples of how vibeslopping implodes, though?only anecdotes from my corpo work. We do review the code so it's not even vibecoding per se. AI codegen even though it will probably work it will however make some weird engineering decisions, make wrong micro assumption and so on. It's impossible to specify everything beforehand, this shit will happen. It's easy to imagine what frankenstein codebase you can make if you just don't pay attention to tech part at all.
>>583186954You do realize it's the same latinx right
>>583187075that's clearly a kannachad post
>>583187075I will burn them all regardless
>>583186931that information was chronologically posted after the post you?/that anon? were/was replying to
>>583185285There is chinese propaganda targeting social media to spread the whole water use lie, to turn american youth against AI.The only bad thing that is real is facebook data centers cut costs in a couple of towns and that happens with other factories too, not just data centers. Use AI for speed. Learn to program for fun.(It's fun, I'm an artist and learned for fun)
>>583187149So what? It shows I knew what I was talking about even if you don't know why I knew it.
>>583186961Biggest thing ive personally noticed is the ai keeps making ugly solutions to problems instead of solving them properly. The most egregious example is when a coworker showed me they needed to make something to check off a list for large data sets to verify that each item was valid, and he sent the test data with it. The AI just hard coded the dummy test data specifically to work so in testing it seemed to work perfectly but as soon as you used any different data it would break
>>583187443in other words, an assumption
>>583187551Nah, you're the one assuming. I knew it.
>>583187683if it was based on facts, it would be a deduction, however the only fact was that it's exp=tremely improbable, which I agree with, but it was not impossible
Who's the cutest sissygirl here and what's her game?
>>583187498oh yeah it loves doing shit like this. Trying to "solve" user request at the cost of everything. I had ai once decide to poorly remake a library i had to use, because it failed to download it once. Instead it slopped up poorly tested rewrite that definitely wouldn't work on entire dataset.
>>583187958
First experience with shaders... I gave up and decided to do everything up front. Here is the thing: I am doing 2D pixel art. I thought that I could get some cool dynamic effects to use, such as dynamic outlines with gradient colors, drop shadows, and such... Nope, I am out. Imma just do everything by hand and rely on the good ol' spritesheets.
>wasted the day fantasizing about all the proggy I could have made
>>583188342try shadertoy instead of giving up
make opensource progress
>>583180802>pdfSomeone ought to report you for being underage
>>583189482yeah he's in danger in a thread like this we need backup ASAP
Made some progress.:DFinished the first level stairs.
>>583180591>>583189773welcome back
>>583187850If it's based on anything at all it's by definition not "blind". It doesn't cmhave to be probable. Being correct isn't even necessary for it not to be "blind", it just happens to be the case.
>>583189773Is this the project you're using gemini to make?
>>583189075ikuyo...
>>583190184no, gdevelop.
>>583189349After seeing so many great open source AGDG projects die and be forgotten I find it difficult to justify
>>583189897which is why I excluded that word here >>583187551not sure if you're that anon but the other one claiming autism could have had a very similar conversation with me where he tries to use anything he finds in further posts which supports his viewsmy original post in this chain wasn't even solely directed at that anon, so if he's reacting this much to my conditional broad observations then...
oyasumi, this discussion is now adjournedpost lots of positivity and progress and support each other
>>583189773looking good cris
I've started using AI in june and it's already October and I feel like I'm slower with AI, I'm not sure I can make it to the next steamfes at this rate and I need to release in feb else I run out of money
>>583190584I was just making sure it was evident how incorrect that post that claimed I was making blind assumptions was. That newer post saying my knowledge is an assumption is also just as incorrect though.
I haven't been posting much but I think my demo is ready to "release" but I might make changes laterI never released any games and am not sure what to do now
fuck all you stupid niggers who said this game was anything more than a waste of space. one of the worst creations of all of mankind. so unfun and shitty, my poor composer was contributing gold to this straight shit and i was a horrible commisioner and treated him like shit.
>>583171289>demo day is next monthThat's a bit too late to showcase my horror game demo. October is the ideal month for that, I feel
>>583194757have you made an itch page for it yet?
>>583192193I'm slower with AI too. My work ethic is destroyed. The start was very fast albeit
>>583194923Submit it to the AGDG halloween jam, we have one every year
>>583195174Yes it's completely empty. I guess I need to fill it with screenshots, copy text and some style. My fear is that it will be ignored. I put a lot of work into this game.My plan is to upload it, release it and see how it's received, and if it has a good reception I will develop more levels. I did upload a (shitty, low effort) game before and even that got some praise and some comments so I guess there is some organic growth possibility. I just don't know if I need to immediately start shilling the link everywhere I can so I can gauge an actual response.
Next Demo Day will be the last playtest for Mortan, most of the enemies and mechanics should have been implemented by then.After that I will make some tweaks based on the feedback, add the last batch of content and release the game so I can enjoy my one million Steam sales.
>>583196217she looks like she fucks AIchads
>>583196217how many pdfs wishlisted it already?
>>583189773you should probably shoot some reference for the animations and post it
>>583195348Sounds great but I've been working on this game for a long long time, wouldn't that be unfair or against the rules?
In just 3 months, with ChatGPT's help, i've succeeded in the following milestomes:>1.) Getting Unity to recognize BYOND>2.) Getting BYOND to recognize Unity>3.) Simple test scripts, my first Unity scripts ever!>4.) Developer tools for models/animations/weapons/particle ffects/creatures/etc>5.) Loading the first map>6.) Loading the battle scene>7.) The battle system, which has sub-systems in it. For example, the "Skills" system and what i'm working on right now, the "Enemy AI" system.>8.) Populating the world with NPC'si'm putting the finishing touches on enemy AI tonight as my progress for the day.All my developer tools are FINISHED. the only system that needs further work is the Skills system. The skills system in my game works like a scripting engine by itself. You can make any type of skill you want.>I want a sword skill that leeches 20% of damage dealt that can only be used on targets with a DEF value lower than your ATK Valuethe game can do this. and if it can't do it, i shoehorn the mechanic and make it scriptable.i wonder if i could include the game in the Game Jam. i probably won't attend but might. I'm thinking about it. The game's pretty ready for a demo level.
>>583196919*raises paw*
>>583195348Oh hey I forgot about that. Would ai slop be too spooky?
>>583197851some can make it workhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/2240530/BABBDI/
>>583186124sup onahole
>>583171569do this
>>583196919Uhhh...
starslop
>>583199921>playing budget cuts>hiding in a vent>try to poke head through opening below me to survey corridor>smash face into floor
>>583196217If you are left to your own devices you will make terrible bosses with forced invincibility. You'll need more than 1 demo day to know that the content is actually good.
>>583199921this looks sick what game is this?
>>583200839idk I've just been messing around working on it for a bit. sorta supposed to be like a force unleashed kinda deal but in vr. lightsaber stuff, combat, platforming, puzzles, playing around with trying to make vehicles feel good.
>>583198801'cky...
>>583156496Sometimes you just gotta nut lil bocchi the redditta
>>583200801Pedophile
>>583199921>the rare vr devBased. VR is something that looks cool but I never got into. How do you even dev for it, some engine with VR support built in?
>>583201428All the major engines have support for it. I started playing with it in Unity but switched to Godot.
>>583200801This webm hurts to watch
>cris is making like a game a week nowGlad the AI workflow is doing him good. >>583192193That screenshot is out of context. In the video he tells people to stop moping around and grab the bull by the hornshttps://youtu.be/zHnKXD2cFBg
>>583188234>YWN prime Bokudev
>>583188234I thought that was rotate ;_;
>>583200801The last boss will be simple, I will also run some small private playtests with my friends. No worries.When I said "last playtest" I meant "last public playtest".
>>583202647Simple is the problem. You must be a better dev.
>>583202741It will play closer to a Resident Evil boss. I'm not making a top down hack and slash.
>Do something>Sit around waiting until I can tell my team about it instead of moving onto the next thingWhy am I like this?
>Spent all night working on lighting>Despite technically dev time I dont feel like I got shit done
what makes a top down hack and slash different to a 3rd person hack and slash?aim at weakpoints?
>>583204132>aim at weakpoints?yes
>>583197506>BYONDChristWell at least you're productive
if you can't jump on the enemies head, your game is 2d.
>>583204854
Aggy... home... at least it was before ai-troon fucked everythang up...
>>583205052that's not your game
six seven
4chan really is dying, huh?
>>583194854welcome back
>>583207823Discord is the new 4chan, has been for a while.
>>583207823there aint no point to this game
>>583208205>tfw too antisocial for discord
>>583208205You need a Discord account.You cannot freely say niggerThey are not the same
>>583208678People get banned for saying nigger here all the time
>>583208998never happened to me once. maybe stop shitposting offtopic, stupid nigger
>>583208998did you get banned? I got banned for saying someone should get banned for trolling (reason:offtopic)I coded manually for the first time in months, I feel like a god again.
>>583207823The whole internet is dying. Seriously. Searching for stuff now is almost impossible since so much shit is on discord and tiktok.Saw something on xitter and you want to find it? Good fucking luck lmao. If you didn't bookmark that shit it may as well not exist.Discord is the absolute fucking worst for this. Just a black hole of information. I hate that it replaced forums so fucking much. Just a breeding ground of power tripping pedophiles. Cancer.
if you could just ignore the attention whore neverdevs and bring something to the conversation instead of crying that everything is getting worse we could have a good generalhere it goes my two cents, how many of you were aware that this happened?https://warosu.org/vr/thread/11468597if you're interested look for "11471557"I still remember finding this on youtube back in early 2025, the thread was still there when I looked for itdays later I found aggydaggy
Do you guys remember the Will Smith spaghetti video and how bad it was? And how about a year later, AI videos were near flawless, and now they're almost indistinguishable? How much progress society made in a few years?I'm curious what this is going to look like in a year or two. Three.js alone progressed leaps and bounds since webGPU and AI came out in the last few years. What's it going to look like when the webGPU devs finally agree to add hardware accelerated path tracing? Or when the rewrite of several core components of three.js is in Rust/C/Wasm? Or when this AI engine gets even more refined and AI gets even more advanced?I'm actually excited, maybe we'll have a Spawn general and have our own matrix where all gamedevs can just shit something out in a server, and bring back the Source era of just boys fucking around being boys.
>>583212631>we could have a good generalyou've been here since 2025?
Man, I knew this going in, but aiming for a more realistic setting (e.i. no magic) definitely restricts what game mechanics you can justify, or at least makes it trickier
Can’t believe I’m considering actually paying for an online course
>>583213058By realistic you must mean hopelessly outdatedlike war without drones
>2027 year of the MUD RenaissanceI tried telling youYears ago I tried to warn youYou could have been working on it all this timeIt didn't have to be like this
>>583212747What is your thing with three.js?Any engine can use webgpu, is not like three.js is doing something new. Maybe the only good thing about it is due to open source libraries since it's web/javascript, but even tho that is a community thing, if Unreal devs started at some day to publish all their addons freely (which is currently starting to happen thanks to Verse) it would be the same thing as threejs but with AAA quality.
>>583213390Wtf is a mud
>>583213390not falling for it
Gonna create the first incremental mud friendslop deckbuilding game
>>583213649sounds like cris adjacent kino
>>583212631aware what happened? tell me. fuck vague posters
>>583213464She just likes it because LLMs are relatively good at coding in it because of the number of sources of games in it on GitHub. It’s much harder to get Claude to work coherently with unreal, and you can’t do it on your phone.
>>583213473male united degenerates
>Saved over the wrong texture and have no back up
>Consumer software companies sat around cheering while AI companies violated every IP law in existence because they envisioned a future where they didn't have to pay for software engineers>Those companies rapidly adopted these AI coding tools even when they were completely useless and those tools scraped their internal code and phoned it back home to train new models>The current coding models, which were trained on that code, are now good enough to enable complete retards to make software that rivals those company's paid software Are the people who run those companies actually retarded?I already know several youtubers who stopped using commercial video editing software because they used Claude to make their own editing tools.
>>583214158how did they get access to the source code to train on it
i just tell claude how I want my video edited and does it without a program
>>583214158Please stay on the topic of Amateur Game Development
>>583214245If you use Claude or ChatGPT you are giving them access to your code. Its like when ChatGPT got access to the notes from Tristan Buckmaster wrote because he was using chatgpt and they used them snipe him and solve the math problem he had been working on. >>583214348Everything applies to AAA game studios as well.
>>583214348the blond is the better looking aggy girl. the brunette is clearly a nodev.
