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Sissy legs edition

>Latest News/Updates

Darktide:
1.13.0 Patch Notes
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/patch-1-13-0-patch-notes/125866
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>Acknowledged but barely discussed :
Left4Dead
Deep Rock Galactic
Killing Floor
Payday
Helldivers 2
Earth Defense Force
WWZ
The Outlast Trials
Barotrauma
No More Room in Hell 2
Aliens: Fireteam Elite 2
Vermintide 2
Jump Space

and others

>Future games
Den Of Wolves - TBA
DarkSwarm - TBA
Blight: Survival - TBA
Deep Dish Dungeon - TBA

>Build planners:
Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/
Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/
Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
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>>583191740
Knee guards look definitively SoB.
Thigh plates look Arbites more than anything else
Shin/legs meld into the shoes and look more like some type of leather.
This supposedly being the deluxe editions, I wouldn't be surprised if we're just getting novitiates.
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>>583191175
Your list is bullshit, you're just lying.
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>>583192082
I have sisters of battle models and they have those thigh plates, and some have those style of boots and leg ring. Most of the time the thigh plates are hidden by robes
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>>583191740
Can I please have a good Darktide Psyker build recommendations for voidstrike staff and forcesword?
Bubble and shriek variants if possible?
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Cadia?
More like CACAdia!
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>>583192082
>we're just getting novitiates.
Noviates do not have thigh plates. They just straight up wear leather pants
>>583192137
his list is basically correct actually. I don't know where you got the idea that the woman with no genetic enhancements, wearing mass produced light power armor, and was raised in the same place comissars, and arbites were raised were as strong as the superhuman 500 year old guy with super advanced gear.
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>>583192530
>Noviates do not have thigh plates. They just straight up wear leather pants
People say they've seen SoB's with those boots, but I haven't seen those either so which is it? Either it's an SoB with the wrong boots, or a Novitiate with deluxe edition larp plate.
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>>583192137
>Scion = Sister of Battle = Skitarii
Scion = Elite for the Imperial Guard
Sisters = Elite for the Ecclisarchy and fighting cultists and traitors
Skitarii Alpha Primus = Elite for the Admec
This list is correct. Don't know why you're complaining about it.
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I wish that new maelstrom modifiers would be added, the last time was after the pox gas event. Also ideally adding the captains and champions to the monster spawn pool instead of keeping all the interesting stuff hidden behind havoc. Lord forbid I want to play interesting modifiers without a ton of annoying restrictions on the player or a lack of matchmaking.
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>>583192626
the knee gards are the same and I vaguely remember seeing a model with boots like that. Even if I'm remembering wrong the boots can just be Fatshark adding some liberties for the sake of cosmetics options. Since sisters while wearing light power armor also wear cloth and leather.
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>>583192945
>Fatshark adding some liberties for the sake of cosmetics options
Right that's kinda what I'm getting at. People keep saying it's definitively SoB, but nobody has produced an image of them wearing these boots. That means no matter which one it is, they're not a 1:1 copy, and therefore the model is not definitive proof that they are SoB or novitiate one way or the other. Until someone shows SoB with those boots, it is either an SoB with the wrong boots, or a novitiate wearing larp armor for spending extra money.
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>>583193170
I lean a lot more to it being sisters because the opper part of the leg cosmetic (knees to upper thighs) are full on armor. And have the light curve thingy
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>>583192726
So Alpha Primus are a straight upgrade then? I know that besides Servitors, Skitarii are basically the most common foot soldiers the AdMech can field
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>>583193549
Skitarii Alpha are squad leader tier, Alpha Primus are that with enhancements for better independent operation.
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>>583193549
Skitarii alphas are the leaders. Alpha primarus are like ranger equivalents capable of acting autonomously
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>>583192082
>crossbow
>flamer pistol
>combat sword (unpowered) and shield (unpowered)
>no heavy flamer, no Godwyn-De'az Pattern bolter, meltagun wasn't in the most recent weapon leaks
It's a fucking novitiate. It's insane to think the premium sister of battle cosmetic would swap you from power armor plate to some fancy leather boots.
Power armor sets sister of battle much further apart from zealot and yet they decided to go with the standard zealous nun in cloth and leather. Holy fuck.
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>>583193339
Look closer. You can tell they modeled the tugging of fabric/leather where its pinned.
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>>583194330
>Godwyn-De'az Pattern bolte
Theyr'e not gonna make a brand new bolter pattern when the previous patterns work well enough. They haven't even revealed the classes unique weapons they showed the cross class weapons.
Also Novitates don't use bolters, don't use bolt pistols, don't use power swords, don't use chainswords, don't use plasma weapons.
Noviates only use autoguns and auto pistols, and basic close combat weapons, and maybe a eviscerator if its a Notivate Penitent.
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>>583194498
thats the lower part of the legging. Specifcally talking from the knee and up which is more solid and armory. The knee and thigh part is more solid armor, while the boots are leather for this cosmetic.
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>>583192365
>voidstrike staff and forcesword?
If you're really wanting the strike staff specifically, that means you'd either want FGS-8, or Illisi to make up for dealing with wider hordes. The other force swords available don't have particularly great cleave, but I suppose they're viable. If your movement is good, you could make an argument for using one of the others since you can technically get by via spamming your rmb at your feet and sliding out of danger.
>Bubble and shriek variants if possible?
Those weapons would prefer Scriers, but you can use those ults as they're both still viable. If you want more horde clear due to your weapon of choice and a safety net from blowing your warp load, you can go shriek. If not, go bubble. Bubble will likely net a higher success rate with pub matches since you can invalidate gunners and beasts of nurgle. If you opt for shriek, don't take more than a single node that slows your peril generation. In both cases I'd take warp siphon keystone to ult as frequently as possible.
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>>583194970
I'm confused, those buttons they posted look like they are on the thigh in your image?
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>>583194789
>Noviates only use autoguns and auto pistols,
If that is true I'd say the weapon list is what points it towards SoB more than the model.
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Ratling
Heretic/mutant penal conscript
Highborn thrown to the wolves
Untouchable

Any other interesting concepts that could theoretically be slumming it with the rejects?
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>>583196797
I'd love a Combat servitor
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>>583195584
hmm those could be buttons but they could be just bolts as well.
>>583194789
they could get a godwyn deaz bolter but it would have to be a unique weapon like the Arbites Exterminator Combat Shotgun
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>>583197093
would be sick if we got the Godwyn Deaz as a unique sisters only bolter pattern. I think it would have the punch of a regular bolter but feel more accurate.
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If the class is full on power armored sister of battle than I think her 3 of her 6 launch unique weapons will be
>Godwyn De'az Boltgun
>Heavy Bolter
>Power Halberd
What would the other 3 be?
Inferno Pistol?
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>>583196797
Genestealer
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>>583197426
Blessed power sword?
Hallowed Mace?
Condemnor Bolter?
Storm Bolter?
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>>583197426
I think one of the weapons in the recent list included a sword/shield combo, yes?
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>>583197426
Melta?
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>>583197876
You'd have to show me a link cus I thought all the linked datamined weapons were just shared class weapons.
>>583197879
>Melta?
Thats likely being shared with both Vet and Zealot
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>>583198103
I just tried going through my recent history and cannot find a page mentioning the sword/shield combo with proof, so I think I may have been hallucinating.
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>>583199532
happens to all of us
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>>583199661
Black Templars really do be the only Marines Sisters fuck with.
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>>583194789
>Theyr'e not gonna make a brand new bolter pattern
Why not. Multiple patterns exist in the setting. The militarum bolter being separate from the sister bolter makes sense.
>when the previous patterns work well enough
Extremely low pick rate and feeling like shit to use is good enough?
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>>583192197
Sisters don't have leather boots on their power armor.
It's novitiate.
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>>583197876
>>583198103
>>583199532
the only source for a sword/shield showing up is a reddit post from the previous thread, so lol >>583153514
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>My buddy that only plays ogry is baffled at the dmg i do on ogry now that there is finally a scoreboard in the game
>Tell him don't do anything, i just use the rumbler
>Proceeds to have mental breakdown and rants about how fucking shit the rumbler is for the entire next game
Maybe the swedes were right.
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>>583200168
If that ends up being legit, I wouldn't mind. Shit, give it the bret. moveset from VT2 while they're at it.
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>>583200140
Novitiates don't wield bolters and plasma guns.
I know it'd be retarded of Fatshark, but the sister of battle power armor being purely cosmetic and not requiring a power pack just so they can slip in novitiate and hospitaller armors is entirely possible. Also it'd make sense for this sister of battle to encompass all aspects of sisters entirely. I'd imagine she even has 3 trees to cover them, essentially.
>repentia tree, melee
>normal sister tree, ranged
>hospitaller/novitiate, support
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>>583194330
>no Godwyn-De'az Pattern bolter
No point in making that when the 2 boltgun variants already exist.
It's the same reason why they didn't make those flechette pistols for skitarii despite sicarian stalkers having them, that is represented by the shredder autopistol.
Same happened with arbites as well, in the lore there is 2 handed power maul that adeptus arbites are known for using. And that is represented by the crusher maul .
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>>583199958
>Extremely low pick rate
Lmao no. Bolter even now is one of the best and most used weapons in the game. It's use only diminishes in havoc because the gamemode spams so much shit at you that it's main role is only really boss damage.
You should never forget havoc doesn't represent the reality of 99% of the game.
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>>583200546
>they didn't make a unique auto pistol for skitarii because it OVERLAPS with one we have
>not because fatshark had already fulfilled the expected number of weapons for the class and called it quits there
lol
>Same happened with arbites as well
We didn't get the executioner shotgun and dominator maul because Fatshark genuinely got confused, thought they made those, and then had to rename them because they were completely wrong about their function. The model for the arbites maul is identical to models for the dominator maul, but the key difference is the dominator maul is a power maul, while we got a shock maul, because they fucked up.
>No point in making that when the 2 boltgun variants already exist
Why weren't you arguing against the bolt pistol being made then? All that was was some damage, accuracy, hipfire, recoil, equip time, and handling tweaks. Sister of battle bolter can't be some damage, accuracy, hipfire, recoil, equip time, and handling tweaks?
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>>583191740
Anyone else notice they're desperate to revive Deep Rock Galactic? I saw that newsletter or whatever it's called
>Season 7 and Season 8
>more use of perk points
Can't recall too well but a new area to?
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>>583200518
>I know it'd be retarded of Fatshark, but the sister of battle power armor being purely cosmetic
It isn't retarded, it is to be expected.
All armors in Darktide are purely cosmetic, that is how they have alwayd herk and always will be. None of them will get special treatment.
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>>583199661
Me in the bottom
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I will be leaving Darktide for a week bros... Gotta go on a cruise in the Caribbean with the family. I will miss you all dearly. I was the Atoma Assailant
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>>583201098
power armor with no power pack feels like a lore violation, though
even skits weren't given the option to take it off, so letting sister blend power armor with cloth armor options feels weird, unless she's going to wear her power pack even when wearing cloth and leather, another distinct possibility
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>>583200915
>Why weren't you arguing against the bolt pistol being made then?
Bolt pistol is a revoler side grade and a side arm. You use it for different things than the full size bolter.
Sissy bolter wouldn't act any different than the current ones bolters.
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>>583201372
>power armor with no power pack feels like a lore violation, though
It's not.
You can use power armor with out a backpack, it'll just be unpowered.

Also this just proves more that the class is novitiate that fatshark got permissions to add extra stuff for.
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Just got back into Darktide because a buddy bought it on sale. The fuck is up with the mechanics class? Their skill tree is kinda all over the place. Top = Tank, Right = Ranged, etc and all that. The tank and Ranged spec seem pretty powerful alongside the revive support tool.
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>>583201889
I haven't read their patch notes, but last I looked at things, it seemed that the arc rifle was the most busted thing about them.
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>>583201975
>it seemed that the arc rifle was the most busted thing about them
nta but It already felt pretty strong before, I'll have to get on soon
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>>583197502
maybe temporarily lol
>>583200958
I heard about that too but didn’t look too much into the details, makes sense given how much RC failed
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>>583201259
Where in here you going bud? Make sure to stay in the touristy areas for most of them, hope you enjoy.
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>>583201975
Arc Rifle stat wise seems pretty broken. Except it's like 7 second reload time. However their revolver and Garand are also SOVL overload so Ranged just seems like it be fun.
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>>583202475
>Except it's like 7 second reload time
Did they fix the reload cancels on it? You could cut it down by a lot with just sprinting two or three times.
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>>583191468


Heretics are more correct than the Emperor was, but they still fail to act correctly. Emps tried to fully supress the human id, while chaos delegate all things to it. The middle path is the correct one. Jung called this integrating the shadow of the self.
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>>583196907
How would you do it? Sevitors are mindless
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>Spillway can show up in Havoc
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>>583202727
You're thinking of the plasma gun bro
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>>583200168
AH OK thats cool.
I think crossbow could be Condemnor Bolter
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tuff
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>>583203997
Different levels of clarity, the medicae servitor has lines where they almost realize the horror of their current situation. I mostly want combat servitor for the possibility of heavier weapons like heavy bolter.
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Apparently there's some datamined Skitarii voice lines perhaps referencing Nurglings, Demagogue, and Plaguebearers
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1wvxzmi/new_skitarii_voice_lines_datamined_pointing_to_3/
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>>583204823
Great Unclean One and Plague marine enemies when?
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>>583196797
Untouchables would never be a player character in darktide. They are extremely rare. In fact there is only one one on Atoma.
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>>583205732
When I google untouchable, it points towards Blanks. I didn't know that we knew of a Blank on Atoma though. qrd?
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>>583204823
I hope these are not just placeholders/just-in-case lines, and that they really intend on putting those all in-game. With the most recent mission have extra freaky chaos stuff, I'd like to see them get more creative with the level design as time moves on.
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>>583204823
>we've got nurglings, plaguebearers, and more chaos sorcerer types coming
Yeah no wonder the Sisters of Battle are arriving if things have gotten this bad.
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Now that the dust has settled on this doggy dog diamond dozen world, what's the best gun for gunlooooooooger in havoc?
I liked rolling around with the ripperguns last havoc season, it was surprisingly potent if a little ammo hungry
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>>583206456
The kickback its always the kickback
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>>583205450
There is data in No Man's Land map has picture of maybe a traitor sister.
>>583206456
Grenade gauntlet and rumbler.
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Sanctioned beastman class when?
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>>583204384
Your random teammates WILL DEFINITELY know what to do.
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>>583205952
The fact that these are Skitarii voice lines means thats its very much coming to the game.
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>>583207027
Would be sick if true. Not enough traitor sisters in lore.
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>>583206456
That is NOT how those expressions go stupid loli *chops you*
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>>583205850
>>583205732

Yeah I was talking about just an ordinary blank/pariah/untouchable. Idk about one on atoma though. Blanks are rare but their only a bit less than psyker rare. Its just that most get killed or exiled so you dont see them as much
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>>583212651
Nice but its fatshark so you wont get
>boobplate
>feminine curves/hips
>pretty face
Best we can hope for is good voices for them
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>>583212874
>Best we can hope for is good voices for them
Debra Wilson as guest voice actress
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>>583213073
Aren't all Darktide so far British? And obviously not one in Hollywood or California clique?
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>>583213547
Damn near every female voice is from one woman
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>cute girls on voice making stupid jokes
wtf this community has girls?
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Sisters pants textures just dropped
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>>583214651
oh yeah here's link
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1wuykb3/everything_ive_found_regarding_the_new_dlc_class/
But yeah this is absolutely sister of battle in power armor. The boots aren't metallic but the other leg part absolutely is armor.
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I keep seeing "True Grit = True Shit" memes, but is that actually true? Seems like a nice survivability perk. Any arguments against it?
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>>583216319
I'm fairly sure it doesn't even work properly with the increased corruption damage from EDLs - ie. you'll eat an overhead, take 50/200 raw damage, but corruption damage will still trigger for the regular amount for like ~180/200 leaving you with only 20 health anyway

Zealot's Bleed For The Emperor talent not only doesn't suffer from this problem but is also simply a stronger node just on its own, so I don't know why it is that way
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>>583217736
That makes sense. Frees up a slot for me then. Trying to squeeze some more damage out of my build.
Was using new Crusher mark but it's still pretty bad, the special is very helpful but the damage is so poor still.
The new nuncio solves the only problem it really had, I preferred it over shield bash before, and now it's just better.
Not using Lone Wolf tho, the dog takes off so much pressure especially with ranged enemy priority.
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>>583207027
She is a traitor sister
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmaYVUHffng
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>>583213547
The psyker has one German voice, one British voice & one bombaclat voice
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>>583217736
It won't
>>583216319
It doesn't
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>>583218342
+ if you tap nuncio super fast it bugs out and doesn't use a charge sometimes.
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>>583204546
Fartshart won't (and can't because they're incompetent) make a combi-weapon bolter that's 2 weapons in 1. Here's your actual crossbow (Novitiate exclusive).
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Reminder that Jo leaked (oh I'm sorry, I mean SPECULATED) that shitters of butthole will be announced at skulls and December update will not feature a new class
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>>583219626
Retard
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>>583219626
absolute mongol
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Why are the people here who want SOB so autistic? I mean sure it would be nice, but why act like a monkey about it?
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>>583218421
>using "ObeyMyFat" as a source
lol, lmao
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>>583220324
most agp self-inserting troons are autistic
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>>583213547
There's the Savant and Loner psykers, the East European Ogryn whose name I can never remember. At a stretch, there's the female zealot (Judge?) who has an interesting twang to certain words which was explained when I watched that voice actor video and found out she was actually Japanese but went to a London acting college. You've also got some of the arbitrators, and Masozi, I suppose.
Zola is interesting, in a way. She sounds from a much higher social class than you'd think from someone who supposedly grew up in a place like the Torrent. Quite a contrast to the Karnaks - supposedly nobility but I'd be surprised if that's how they sound when their mother is on the vox.
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>>583220473
Hive Scum mindbroke this guy bad, didn't it?
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>>583220625
He wanted SoB to be the next class so so much.
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>>583220473
Doxing only has one (1) X in it.
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>>583219626
I mean sisters would make more sense 1 year from now. Skulls is clearly the event where they reveal the more interesting things. Also Warhammer Skulls is dictated by GW meaning GW would obviously the biggest hype generating things during it.
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>>583220473
>she/her
>is a tranny
Everytime.
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>>583220473
Probably hasn't posted here since but drama trannies can't let it go
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>>583220792
Oh yeah right, the autistic retard who would never shut up about SoB totally stopped posting here suddenly, sure. those people are not obsessed at all.
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>>583215913
Yeah, this class is 100% Novitiate and that's their commodores cosmetic or from the deluxe edition.

Though I think it'd be hilarious if we get Novitiate and also actual battle sister power armor, but the power armor is paywalled behind commodores/deluxe edition.
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>>583220936
>but the power armor is paywalled behind commodores/deluxe edition
This will happen. Also the description will autistically point that it's a faux-powerarmor not a real functioning one (like they do with radio backpacks as such).
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>>583218480
>>583220565
I meant to say the casting - voice actors of Darktide are British or part of British acting industry. So Darktide is safe from US acting industry because of their union being a huge hassle or nepo California clique.
Yes there are few Asians like the female Judge and male Authoritarian. Male Savant is Zimbabwe origin, but still works in Britain.
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>>583220337
>insulting the queen of /coopg/
DIE!
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>>583219449
>novitiate exclusive
Notivates don't use power weapons, and they don't use bolters they earn the right to use bolters after becoming a full battle sister
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>>583220792
No, they constantly come here to spam their shit.
And everytime it escalates to the point the point where people identify him and tell him to fuck off, he magically just stops.
Which is exactly what most autistic shitposters like they do, they are only comfortable spamming their shit as long as they are unidentifiable. They are like jews, call him a faggot, a tranny, etc. it just falls off him like water off a goose's back. But call him the pony tranny post that image, he will recoil because he knows he's been found out.
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>>583220473
Hey thats me. I haven't posted here since skitarii for the record so I'm not your boogie man
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>>583221501
>Notivates don't use power weapons
They got permission from GW to give those to it.
Fatshark even got permission to add stuff like rumbler and kickback for ogryn. Which are completely new weapons exclusive to Darktide and don't exist outside of it.
In comparison them asking GW if they can add couple of "big ticket" items for Novitiate makes sense because they know it will sell like hot cakes. Giving it access to more cool shit will make it sell more and then appease the sisterfags.
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>>583221649
you keep catfishing people on Discord?
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>>583221714
I interact with people on discord only the bare minimum of times
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>>583220473
>jannies deleted it
>someone reported this
Seems like someone here is feeling a bit called out.
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>>583220473
Hey that's me!!!
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>>583220936
not so sure
novitiates don't have upper leggings like that
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>>583221694
could be novitate but personally I don't see the point of adding novitate and not just a full on sister. Fathshark would make more money, and have more wargear options to work with.
I'm choosing to believe its a full battle sister if I'm wrong I'm wrong. I'm not gonna be mad if its novitate its still cool.
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>>583220625
Hive Scum mindbroke a lot of people. It was the most disastrous DLC announcement in recent memory.
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>>583221694
>They got permission from GW to give those to it.
Or, you know, its a full battle sister.
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>>583221694
>They got permission from GW to give those to it.
feels like a lot of hoops to jump through when they can just add full battle sister which would be more successful.
Isn't Boltgun 2 releasing soon?
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>>583221843
>novitiates don't have upper leggings like that
Which is why it is a premium/deluxe cosmetic.
Power armor doesn't have regular cancad pants under it or leather boots. Nevermind that those thighplates are directly copied from arbites legs.
It is obviously just novitiate armor that is meant to be a bit fancier to show that Novitiate has advanced in the ranks.
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>>583221753
Why the "she/her" then? What do you get by pretending to be a woman online?
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>>583222056
A lot of people were not happy.
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The rat tranny is the only one still posting about the SoB tranny btw
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>>583222276
Not like Novitiate has much variation in its model line, nor will it get more cosmetics than every other DLC class
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>>583222286
But anon I am a woman. Not trans not that i have anything against that.
At the time I added because it seemed like a normal thing after a while I realized it doesn't matter
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>>583222348
Hmmmm ratjeet is the pony tranny then? That would explain the 19H long shitposting
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>>583222417
You'll never be a woman lol
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>>583222418
Nope. The rat tranny is just a retarded shit stirring drama whore
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>>583222407
yeah this is why I think its full battle sister. They have a lot more cosmetic options to work with than a novitiate. And even though Obese Fish is slow to make cosmetics the few cosmetics to do make for sister will sell fast if its battle sister
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>>583222180
>>583222245
It is a way less of a jump through a hoop than ogryn getting access to guns that don't even exist in the setting.
Nevermind that this wouldn't be new for Darktide either. Skitarii Alpha Primus are specifically shit that Fatshark was allowed to come up with and "homebrew", meaning GW is already clearly amicable to letting certain things happen within reason.
And a Novitiate getting a plasma guns and power weapons when aiding the Inquisition to eradicate daemonic threats would be one of them.
We already know that Nurglings and Plaguebearers are coming to the game as well.
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>>583222535
Delusional, even a class like Scum which has so many potential customization option is stuck on its launch page. An actual, full-fledged Sister class will too have one page of slop at launch, and one of them will just be a helmet with its visor opened.
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>>583222535
fatshark sometimes makes up brand new cosmetics but novitates dont have anything to work with aside from the default
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>>583222535
>They have a lot more cosmetic options to work with
Did you already memory hole arbites?
Amount of cosmetics doesn't matter as to what class gets made
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>>583222539
If Novitiate gets a Plasmagun, Zealot should also get it, Veteran should get the flamer and Scum should get the bolter
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>>583222418
No the pony tranny or girl or whatever doesnt post often. The rat tranny just hasn't gotten over the argument they had with each other over whether sister could be in darktide.
In the end the pony tranny won and ratjeet lost.
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>>583222276
id have to double check the penitent animation again, thigh plates are probably just convenience of the miniature
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>>583222676
maybe Fatshark was waiting for all 4 dlc classes to release before adding new stuff.
Let me have hope.
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>>583222539
>guns that don't even exist
They are large stub guns. They exist under a large umbrella of abstracted weapons.
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>>583222650
Also scum as a whole doesn't have many truely different cosmetics either.
Basically there exists like 1-2 armor sets, with like 4 different gang recolors.
Same happened with skitarii too, there isn't actually that many cosmetics, the ones that exist are just recolored versions of each other.
Novitiate would be 100% the same as that, or they got the arbites route where it is literally all the 1 same armor with only minor tweaks
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>>583222751
You're not very subtle for a tranny
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Novitiates are mostly teenagers. Fatshark isn't gonna let you play as a teenager. The leaked face doesn't look like a teen face either.
>>583222743
>Novitiate gets a Plasmagun
This is another reason why I don't think its a novitate I don't think the convent would train them in plasma weapons while they're still newbies.
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>>583221210
Fair 'nuff. I can see the intent now, reading back, but my brain is still in bed, apparently.
>>583221943
Story-wise, don't forget that Rannick discovered Hestia somehow, somewhere, and she remains a 'Novitiate' per mission dialogue. Between the two of them, getting some discreet live-fire training in for the priory's junior members while also not disrupting the delicate political tap dance going on would be mutually beneficial all round.
There's also one possible way round it that I can think of but don't know if it's canon-friendly. If Hestia is from a non-militant Order, do they have the full kit on hand even so, or just some "good enough to kick cultist arse" gear, saving the power armour for Bloody Rose, St Katherine et al? I've never actually read the codex, so I don't know if that sort of nuance has ever been stated.
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>>583222751
ratjeet argued with skitariifags as well. He kept obsessively saying how they're both impossible and their power levels were too high and that we have to be rejects
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>>583222864
>They are large stub guns
Rumble, kickback, thugshot have never existed before. There is literally no reason why GW would allow these to be added beyond that they gave thumbs up and okay'd it.
Single stubbers and twin stubbers are something that do exist, but they do not exist for ogryns to use on any of the tabletop games GW makes.
Darktide was the first video game that gave ogryns access to them.

If Fatshark can be allowed to give ogryn entirely new guns that never existed before, or guns that the class according to the fluff and tabletop shouldn't have access to, they can 100% give shit like plasma guns to Novitiate.
Which entirely possible to happen because there is already a precesent set with ogryn who has access to guns he shouldn't have.
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>>583222989
>Novitiates are mostly teenagers.
Not all of them are.
Also we have that one animation made by GW where a Novitiate and bunch of battle sisters were tasked with delivering some relic to a temple.
The novitiate in that animation is clearly already an adult woman.

It is 100% novitiate
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how many players will darktide get if it is a full sister of battle. Skitarii got 54k and single handedly saved the game.
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>>583223073
Hestia's cover story is that she's a Novitiate from the Shrine World of Crucis in the same sector, which confirms there's a convent there. However, Novitiates include not just Battle Sister cadets but also cadets for non-combat roles like Ordo Dialogus (intel, cryptography) or Ordo Famulous (Bene Gesserit ripoffs), which Hestia was likely masquerading as being part of.
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>>583223384
well we'll see in the mean time I'm holding out hope for full battle sister. Still gonna be my main class either way.
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>>583223406
>how many players will darktide get if it is a full sister of battle
30k-40k at best
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>>583223073
I thought the latest update revealed that Hestias not actually a novitiate
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>>583223489
>30k
Way too little.
Arbite got 43k
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>>583223646
Hive scum got 33k-34k
Yes, I view this as being a flop.
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>>583223568
It could be she isn't at least it is hinted at that she hasn't told the truth 100% as to who she really is and what her actual plans are.
She is clearly native to the Atoman realm and probably native to Atoma Prime, which would explain why some of the big players know who she really is, especially if she is someone more important than just some random novitiate.
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We could have gotten DLC cosmetics and more stages if Fatshark didn't waste money and development time on Expedition
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It's SoB
We had the bait tranny claiming the skitarii would be a scribe the whole time
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speaking of trannies what happened to that one guy who kept saying the next class was Hive Scum and kept posting that tranny porn with it.
He disappeared immediately after Hive Scum launched.
>>583224060
>would be a scribe the whole time
I remember that. He always was determined to downplay everyone's hopes.
>Skitarii is too elite we're supposed to be rejects we're getting scribe
>Sisters is too elite and redundant with zealot we're supposed to be rejects we're getting Hive Scum
He was both right and wrong on the second point.
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>>583224175
That was clearly a fat shark employee
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>>583224060
>It's SoB
Are you a tester?
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>>583223568
It doesn't mean she can't possibly be one before, since if she's really an exiled/bastard heir of House Margrave, it wouldn't be out of place for nobility like her to be sent to the Schola before getting disowned.
Either way, I'm expecting Rannick to be all
>"Oh, you thought everyone except me already found out your identity? Just who do you take me for, as if I totally picked you up by chance?"
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>>583224340
cool. I also wanna say I like hestia a lot. She, Hadron, and Rannik are my favorite Darktide allied NPC's.
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>>583224460
I hope your fav classes aren't Psyker, Scum and Skitarius. She hates those, unless you are into being looked down upon.
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>>583224636
I started out maining psyker (female loner specifically) but I got sick of the class because I realized I preferred shooting things with actual guns than using boring staves.
I hate that I wasted so much money on psyker cosmetics. I've been a vet main ever since.
>Scum
Tried it out for a bit, pistols are fun not for me.
>Skitarii
Tried it out but not for me.
Just waiting for Sister or Novitiate
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I haven't played in 2 years and apparently FatShark renamed half my characters to Reformed-Operative. How do I rename them from this stock name?
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>>583225001
Go to the plastic surgeon he'll change your name
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>>583225001
Meant that you named your toons N1gg3r or some other no-no word and they updated their wordfilter
use a mix of latin and non-latin script
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>>583224340
Which gets REALLY interesting, because why consciously take in a random disguised heir you've discovered unless you're half-hoping that they take the opportunity to make a grab for their birthright? Especially if you have (apparently well-founded) suspicions about the exact loyalties of the incumbents? Wouldn't be the first time the inquisition engineered a coup.
Of course, this could all be happy chance. Maybe Ivan genuinely didn't know until recently. Maybe he knew, thought a backdoor 'in' with Tertium nobility could be handy, and then wouldn't you know it, it all kicks off and Hestia decides she's sick of convent food and writing up how many times we threw our grenades.

But the inquisition doesn't often believe in coincidence.
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>>583225303
You can interpret it as being a test of her worthiness in becoming part of the Inquisition, because if she can outmaneuver Tertium's elite and overthrow them, she proved herself in manipulation and subterfuge, which are useful to them.
Having a potential planetary governor under his thumb if she succeeds is also convenient, giving him access to a whole lot more than random agents he scouted, Zola's rejects and whatever allies are around.
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>>583192137
>>583192530
I agree on the SoB stuff, they're just schola progenum recruits with good geae like scions, but ogryn and space marine are not the same power level lmao

ogryn is physically of comparable size and strength but far too stupid to have the same tactical sense or training. they're also just big, not custom designed for combat.

ogryn power level is comparable to skittles/sob/scion if not lower.
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You don't hate smyggers enough
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>>583210474
>Blanks are rare but their only a bit less than psyker rare.
psykers are very common every planet with a population over a million produces a number of them in any given generation, they're common enough to be harvested en masse for use in various government jobs with the remainder left over for big E's lunch
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>>583210474
blanks are way rarer than psykers
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>switch from EU to US server
>winrate goes up to 200%
What happened? US server used to be ajoke
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>>583226190
Problem with blanks is that unlike psyggers who can at least hide their power somewhat, blanks passively make most people around hate them, and usually get lynched if they aren't scooped up by the Officio Assassinorium or whatever.
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>>583226257
The US invaded brazil
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>>583220565
>There's the Savant and Loner psykers, the East European Ogryn whose name I can never remember
dunno about the negro psyker but the german psyker and the russian ogryn are most likely just a brit putting on pretend accents
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>>583226415
ez just charter a ship to the abnettverse where they have blockers that can be turned on or off just like psykers letting them interact with psyker shit like mental voice comms as normal people and can somehow be mass produced using vat grown clones of existing blanks
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>>583225539
Such a shame really, she would have made a marvellous Interrogator. Alas, duty calls. As does ambition, if appropriately... diverted.
(In all seriousness, I do think Rannick's fondness for her is at least genuine, although I would stress platonically so. Probably one of the few on board he can almost form a connection to.)
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>>583226257
after spillway dropped I am contemplating doing this. I finally understand the complaints about slavgroids. you can lead a horse to water by explaining the boss fight but you can't make it actually not stand in the green goo and immediately die 3 times in a row

I am not good enough to carry the fight above like heresy and it's very difficult to find a team that won't just wipe immediately in the first aoe phase
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>>583226507
Oh they are, you can tell (I just can't describe how). I simply misinterpreted the post, that's all.
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>>583197879
if they made the melta exclusive to the SoB class i would get really mad, it needs to be a veteran/zealot share or exclusive to vet weapon
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>>583226507
The same bong guy voices the male Loner, Bully and Hunter, funny how all the personalities he does are all the asshole ones. Bodyguard is also a bong voicing a fake russian, but the Savant is voiced by an actual nog.
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>>583225001
kek what were their names before the re-education
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>>583227198
>Savant is voiced by an actual nog
yeah I kinda figured. I don't think white people are allowed to fake negro accents, you just know someone would raise a big stink about it
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>>583221694
>permission to add stuff like rumbler and kickback for ogryn
let's be honest, those are only different weapons in-game for balancing reasons, in-universe they would just be different types of ammo
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>>583226816
Switching to the NA server was the best decision I ever made on this game, you'll notice a huge increase in player skill because the average nigegr there knows how to follow an objective and at least stick to the team while EU server is full of retarded fr*nch (unskilled monkeys), german (unskilled AND autistics) and slavgroid (slavs)
The only downside is that the NA server has a lot of console player mouthbreathers with an open mic
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>>583227864
Does having better teammates on average offset having 200 ping in a game like this?
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>>583222743
Yeah, and they also should get psyker staves because why not
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>>583227940
ping is barely noticeable
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>>583224460
I love her (old) missions, she always sounds so inspiring as the handler. The gentle religious exhortation, the sense of belief in us... I'd scan an orchard of phage trees and storm Baross a thousand times for that woman.
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>>583225247
>Meant that you named your toons
>toons
more like troons lol
>>583225001
What were their names anon, you must share
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>>583210474
Blanks are much rarer than psykers.
The estimated amount of blank/null individuals is only about somewhere 1 every billion births.
So even within Tertium, a hivecity of 90 billion inhabitants, at best there should be like 90 blanks in total within Tertium at any given time.
But more likely the number is closer to 50 due to the difficulties of life within the Imperium. Especially more so for blanks who often like their one name implies, are pariahs, outcasts. They basically spend their lives in exile away from other people as hermits because people just can't handle being near them because the blank aura just gives off an air of "wrongness" from the blank.
Despite there being actually nothing wrong with them at all. And blanks often don't even know what the problem with them is because blanks don't really have any outward abilities like psykers.
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>skitari being an absolute shitter
>wipe
>see TTV in his steam name
>he's streaming
>he's a tranny
>he's blasting loud techno music while playing
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>>583227198
People constantly say that the Bodyguard is "russian", he sounds nothing like it.
He just sounds gruff that's about it.
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>>583229531
Even in the 41st millennia, autism is heavily stigmatized.
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>>583229632
oh wait, that wasn't a tranny (I guessed by her voice) that's worse lol

https://www.instagram.com/milkinthejunkieland/


NA east server btw
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>>583229648
But Emps is the biggest autist in the galaxy
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>>583229778
dios mios, la goblina de las americas
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>>583229860
Funny how that works
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>>583229778
Would.
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>>583229860
And he's also the mightiest psyker and despite that psykers are heavily stigmatized as well.
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>>583229778
>come to the NA server bro
lol more like NAH, thanks
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>>583229778
wat a cutie. would let her carry me in my havoc 40 runs
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>>583226257
>switch from Oceania to China
>can actually find Havocs in less than 60 minutes
>entire team collapses in the first encounter
Hm
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>>583226190
>>583229531
>>583226215
But blanks still arent rare enough to not be a character option.
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>>583227940
>Does having better teammates on average offset having 200 ping in a game like this?
Late but latency only matters for disablers, and disablers arguably mostly matter when your teammates are worthless mouthbreathing sub-bots. Latency doesn't matter when your teammates actually pull their weight. To me, having low latency only means I'm practically immune to disablers because they're easy to dodge, and playing on high ping means tanking the occasional disabler, but playing in regions with competent teammates makes that a non-issue.
It's annoying, it takes getting used to, and certain builds are a nightmare to play. I can't recommend anything with fast attack speed because that feels pretty bad with any amount of desync. But anything that shoves enemies around a lot with high impact, or reasonably long reach slow weapons, like relic blade zealot or arbitrator or ogryn, or any ranged build, are fine to play on very high latency.

I'm EU and I regularly play h40 on HK to avoid slavgroids. The 250+ latency takes getting used to, but having competent teammates is infinitely more important there. Darktide is a game of decision making and starts while assembling a team. Reaction time stops being as important when getting hit by the occasional trapper no longer means a team wipe because your 3 retards can't hold their own if you stop DPSing everything dead.
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>>583221210
British mean white those people are foreigners on British land
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>>583229645
Are you a Slav/Russian yourself, my man? He sounds very much like a westerner doing a """slav""" accent
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>>583229860
The Emperor is also a psyker that is a sort of antipsyker. He literally devours other psykers, its what sets him appart from everyone/everything else. Its how he won Terra. Malcador was a Sigilitte, one of a group of powerful psykers called Sigillites & they opposed the Emperor, until Malcador betrayed them & the Emperor devoured them, literally absorbing their psyker powers. He continues to devour a 1000 psykers a day to keep going. The whole "primitive shaman gestalt soul" is one truth & a lie. Hes a soul gestalt but not from a bunch of heroic shamans committing suicide, but rather from him sucking the souls out of psykers & other people. Its why he only kept blanks & custodes around him instead of other psykers
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>>583234729
No. I'm a finn, he doesn't sound anything like a russian to me at all.
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>>583201519
Maybe she'd have less recoil when she uses it
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>>583235045
Well there we are, you're probably getting a variant of the Dick Van Dyke effect. It's convincing enough as someone who met one or two Russians in business meetings before the recent idiocy, but I will concede that it also sounds like the imitation that it is. I never thought it was a native VA.
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>>583234273
They are. Also any few precious blanks that are found are usually taken quickly by various orgs within the Imperium. Like inquisition for their own means, same happens with the Assassinorum who turn blanks into Culexus Assassins, and then finally sisters of silence who turn any female blanks into more sisters of silence.

Also blanks just wouldn't work in this game because they have no actual outward powers like a psyker for example.
Only thing their power would be in a game like this is that the character just passively debuffs all the enemies to take more damage/stagger if they are within his coherency radius. That is all the character would do, and other wise they might as well just be a guardsman or a zealot. That is not at all or nearly enough to make into a class.
Nevermind the inherent contradicting synergy the class would have with psyker just by existing. Since blanks turn off ALL psychic powers within their "negative bubble" that exists passively around. This would apply to any team mate playing psyker.

And NO. We are NOT getting culexus assassins in this fucking game, because ALL assassins are basically space marine tier and way too important to waste on shit like this. Meaning they are all entirely off limits.
Yes, even callidus and vindicare assassins. People really just need to read shit about this universe to understand it.
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>>583235751
I want a blank class just to grief allied psyggers
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>>583223646
didnt skitarii get over 50k+? SoB class will probably break over 60k and that will be it
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>>583236225
Sob will hit a whole ass million
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>>583236559
why is autogynephilia so common in the cooperative gaming community
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>>583236774
It's just gynophilia. Niggas love bitches
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>>583236559
even if darktide was the most optimized and polished game ever made, that wouldn't happen
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>>583236559
Skittle were actually hyped up a lot, sisters not at all nearly as much.
Only place where I see this sister autism and people constantly coping that sisters are coming is unironically /coopg/. Anywhere else, like reddit, youtube, fatshark forums, the discord, they don't really care and when hearing sisters of battle most people even think.
>"Isn't that just zealot again...?"
Which already proves the whole idea isn't as popular as people think.
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>>583235751
Disabling all psyker allies would be rather funny at least.
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>>583238512
Blabk Assassins have devices that amplify their Blankness
If I recall there was an Inquisitor\Inquisitor aid that had something similar except it dampened the Blank nature
Really all a Blank could do is cause anything Warp-dependant around themselves to take more damage
Anything pure Warp also just ceases to exists past a certain radius
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>>583237845
Mechanically I'm sure they'll be engaging, and there will be a niche found that doesn't step on anyone's toes. It's the 'soft' factors that remain a puzzle; the conversations and personalities. I suppose you could have them more... sincere? Professional about it rather than our current drunken street ranters? There is at least one obvious interaction I'm sure we'll get:
"Do this thing, brethren, it says so in the scriptures!'
"IT SAYS NO SUCH THING! IF YOU CONTINUE TO BEAR FALSE WITNESS I WILL WHIP YOU RAW!!"
".... yes, mother"
but beyond that...
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>>583238992
>wake up daemonhost
>daemonhost just fucks off immediately
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if I were a sister of battle I would only fuck ogryns
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>skitarii alpha primus is an OC donut steel version of skitarii that covers rust stalkers, rangers, and for some reason electropriests
>sister of battle's inclusion will be some kind of OC donut steel version that includes repentia, hospitallers, and novitiates
I am right
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>>583237845
that's a big cope
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>>583236774
More cute trannies is a good thing. It’s only a problem when moids play as girls.
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I can't believe /coopg/ argued for four years that we didn't need two faith based classes in a setting where the ships look like cathedrals and the soldiers kneel in prayer mid battle.
I can't believe /coopg/ genuinely believed this was never going to happen.
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>>583240665
Why do we need 2 faith based classes
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>ratjeet/sobtranny woke up
Time to close the tab I guess.
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>>583229632
>>583229778
Buy an ad, niggerfoid.
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>>583241074
Why don't we
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>>583241385
That's not really reason. It's just redundant.
It's like asking a for beastman minotaur class, how is that any different from ogryn besides visuals?
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>>583241884
>please, no more faith in my game about a god emperor's empire fighting literal demons
Genuinely, what's wrong with you
>coming up with a cool beastman class just to shoot it down yourself
Genuinely, what's wrong with you
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>>583228745
I scan for she

>>583226023
>but ogryn and space marine are not the same power level lmao
Agreed. Ogryns are far more powerful. Far more, not a little more.
This has been reflected in lore and rules for over 20 years.

>>583236225
Yeah. Peak was on release at 108k but Skitarii got 56k.
I feel like I'm out of the loop now on Warhammer culture, but to me Sisters of Battle (as a single, playable character) is a more popular concept than Skitarii (something nobody knew about more than 10 years ago)
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The mark 8 braced autogun on an ACD build is working shockingly well
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model with texture
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Forgot to mention I'm playing Damnation by the way
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Sorry I mistyped, I'm actually playing Malice and going down 5 times per match
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Made a typo, meant to say I'm playing Auric and helping my other teammates that are constantly going down.
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My finger slipped again. I actually meant to say I am soloing h40 with the single worst gun and single worst ability in the entire game.
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>>583243687
>crate spam scum with a gray shredder
I dread to even imagine.
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My finger slipped and went up my asshole
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My finger slipped and argued against the inclusion of sister of battle for four years
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>>583236225
SoB will break containment and hit 120k I bet. The culture warriors will use it for their respective grifts and propel it to heights unimaginable
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>>583244350
brainbroken
people who screech about inclusion in videogames don't actually buy the videogames
SoB will do well purely because it's the coolest shit added to the game so far
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>>583236818
>in a first person game
the "staring at ass" argument doesn't work here
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>>583244541
>brainbroken
No. I've seen it happen a few times this year and last with games that were niche dragged out into the open to be fought over.
All it will take is a weird decision from on-high at GW or some dumb Swede deciding to do something and the powderkeg goes off.
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>>583244754
Gay ass faggot
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>>583244818
Name the games.
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>>583244918
>wants to experience being a small woman with a squeaky voice first hand
>wants to shake his ass for his teammates, being eye candy for them
who you callin faggot, sissy? you want nothing more than a big strong man to hold you tight and fuck you raw
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>>583242868
>Agreed. Ogryns are far more powerful. Far more, not a little more.
Only in strength/durability though, marines outdo them in everything else
>>583239914
Alpha Primus isn’t OC
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>>583245987
not beating the gay ass faggot allegations with this post, jabroni
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I believe that, much like with Arbites getting pushed in both DT and Rogue Trader, the new class won't be SoB, itll be Miraculist. They will reuse Psyker mechanics to save on budget, with maybe a small side gimmick.
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>>583246151
Yes it is.
>b-but the designation isn't new, it's been in 40k lore
It's been dead for years and the thing it used to describe is not what we got in darktide.
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>>583246369
Why must you cope >>583242980
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>>583242980
Armored thighs with leather boots looks so stupid what kind of sister of battle is this supposed to be?
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>>583246512
No, let him. The anti-SoB meltdown will be all the sweeter when the trailer drops.
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>>583246814
that's an extremely common way to armor yourself if you're armored infantry
plate boots are for cavalrymen
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>>583225060
god i wish i could get those
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>>583246925
in the 14th century maybe, it still looks stupid and does not match any of the sister's models.
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>>583246814
It's just reused from Arbites, since Novitiates (Sororitas trainees that haven't earned their power armor yet) only get carapace armor.
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>>583245987
>who you callin faggot
You, faggot
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>>583224336
everyone here is apparently
>>583223923
>Atoman realm
the what
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>>583246814
Novitiates most likely
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>>583247341
even novitiates have carapace boots and no armor on the thighs >>583247692 idk what that is trying to be but it looks ugly whatever it is
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>>583226435
That would probably solve so many issues
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>>583246512
>>583246875
I do want SoB. Im just used to dissapointment.
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>>583247779
It sure as hell doesn't look like power armor at least. At most it's a cosmetic variant which includes or excludes armor over the boots or thighs, since they have to make base cosmetics somehow.
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>>583228745
Based I loved her dialogue in those missions too it’s just the weird berating when she’s us on the ship that throws me off
>>583229860
You’re thinking of Lion
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>>583242181
Both of the things are redundant, we don't need them.
Zealot as a whole does the faith thing better and fits Darktide better.
It's cooler when the bringer of the Emperor's light isn't just some super nun from a monastery that has huffed Emperor farts her entire life.
Instead it is the common man rising up and deciding to keep the faith going in the darkness to help his fellow man so not all is lost. That's thematic and has actual soul.
As for minotaur, it really is not that special or even interesting. It's basically an ogryn with a bullhead.
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>its a novice
>no its a regular
Dumbasses its the start of the class versus the end of it. The Sisters will be newbies seconded to the warband as their final test. Somewhere in the talent tree you will unlock the passives, actives and cosmetics that represent having powered armor and differentiate the class from the Zealot, but of course you can just wear whatever cosmetics you want like always.
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>>583247779
No, novitiates are using leather boots, at best with metallic kneeguards.
You can see even in that model how the feet are creasing like leather boots.
Also the leaked cosmetic is not power armor, purely based on the fact that power armor doesn't have regular canvas pants under the armor plates.
The thighs are just armored to show it is a higher rank novitiate, so they get access to better armor. Like how hive scum has cosmetics with more armor for the higher rank gang members.
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>>583248619
Makes no sense, it'll be different flavors of carapace with bells and whistles on it like arbitrator and skitarii cosmetics.
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Let alone what SoB specifically will bring to the table, what gameplay niche even is there left to fill?
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>>583248679
carapace over boots = carapace boots
i don't really care about the power armor/novitiate argument i am only saying the leather boots look stupid
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>>583248805
All niches are filled, you know what else is filled? Your wallet. With money.
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>>583248339
>redundant
What is the problem with redundancy of themes? Are you going to go to Games Workshop and tell them they need to get rid of Black Templars and Sisters of Battle in the 40k setting now because zealots already exist? We don't need so many faith based factions in this faith based setting, apparently.
>Zealot as a whole does the faith thing better
Literal nuns do faith much better than homeless men in rags.
>and fits Darktide better
Can't argue there. Zealot fits the extremely ugly "rejects" aesthetic perfectly. That's not a compliment.
>personal essay on why zealot is a folk hero
Don't care.
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>>583248619
>unlock the passives
Man, I love this "+10% attack speed + 5% melee damage nodes" it's like my character REALLY has power armor dood.
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>>583247692
New stub pistol model?
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>>583248954
Considering fatshark just went out of their way to eradicate stat nodes, I doubt they're gonna go adding them to new classes.
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>>583248805
What gameplay niche did Skitarii fill?
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the new sister class doesn't even have the cool melee options the zealot gets, looking more like a vet clone than a zealot clone
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>>583249171
how mad will you be when she gets 2h power axe and zealot doesn't
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>>583248619
>be level 1 arbites
>start off weariing carapace armor
>can only get +25 from wearing my armor minimum level 6 and +25 from the actual armor plates on my armor minimum level 9
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>>583249240
i won't care at all i hate axes
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i just hope the new weapons that will come are also accessible in other classes as different "marks", sisters can keep their holy mark variants, just dont fucking take away the melta....
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>>583249090
playing hacking minigames for you
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>>583248805
Nothing, it'll just be another melee class and it'll have an ability that shits out golden toughness.
It's just going to replace zealot as a whole. And knowing DLC classes it'll be overpowered as fuck as well where you get to do fuck loads of damage but you also then shit out gold toughness by breathing.
Which will 100% kill zealot as a class.
What? You think the gold toughness nerfs were random? No. It's like how fatshark fixed the ogryn vaulting problem purely because skitarii would've faced the same issue.
Also why they nerfed rending on everything, skitarii shits out electrostacks out the ass and on top of it brittleness. So they had to nerf all the rending talents like uncanny strike because then skittle would've been too OP in conjunction with other classes.
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>>583249417
Was that an entire niche that needed filling? I'm pretty sure 99% of the playerbase has mods that cheat the hacking minigames.
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>>583249434
>gets plasma gun hand flamer and crossbow
>does not get relic blade or thunder hammer
why do you think this will be another melee class?
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>>583249434
Why would it be OP? Skitarii was pretty well balanced, seems like they have a better handle on it now.
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>>583249335
that's really unfortunate for you
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>>583248948
>What is the problem with redundancy of themes?
They are boring in a game like this.
Zealot is better for Darktide because Darktide is meant to be about the small potatoes side of the Imperium.
Rejects are cool for the simple fact that it isn't yet another space marine slop game, bringing sisters in is just bringing in space marine slop.
>i don't care
Why should I care about you wanting more redundant faith shit or sisters in this game then?
It's not needed, zealot already provides all of it and is cooler and actual has soul to it.
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>>583249683
axes and spears are always stupid get that primitive shit out of here merge them into a halberd at least
hammers are okay but nothing is as cool as swords
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>>583249069
They'll just bake the stat nodes into the other talent nodes.
This isn't revolutionary.
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>>583249601
Wow, the class has 2 whole unique weapons?
How interesting.
>>583249623
>Why would it be OP?
To sell more shit for all the redditors who love powerfantasy slop? Are you dumb?
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rat news?
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>>583250109
Again, Skitarii was well balanced.
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>>583250109
you didn't answer my question anon, this isn't about unique weapons
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>>583250146
THE KING OF THE RATS IS ON DEADLOCK BABY
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>>583250146
Into the press with you
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>>583250228
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>>583249001
>new mace
>chugjug chalice for team support
>Icon standard warrior priest buffs?
>whips
>crossbow boltgun
take your pick
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Novitiate
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>>583246390
What’s the difference between what it was used to describe and what we got exactly
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I don’t have a problem with Sisters getting in but this incessant autistic arguing that’s been going on for a year is just tiresome it makes me not want them if the people behind it go back to fucking off again
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>>583249789
>They are boring in a game like this.
What an idiotic fucking argument. More classes with faith themes is "boring in a game like this." What the fuck does that even mean? What other game like this can you name where you were bored by the inclusion of a class with a similar background theme? What about this game specifically makes doubling up on themes boring?
Don't answer any of that, here's the reality. You have no fucking idea how to defend this argument because it's just a sequence of words to you. You never actually stood by "we can't have two faith based classes," you just liked the way it sounded and seemed like an argument of some kind that could be said whenever sister of battle was brought up.
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>>583250596
we wouldn't leave it would just extend the argument another year or two until the next class or darktide 2
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>>583248893
>you know what else is filled?
your pussy with my jizz
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skitarii is already the 2nd faith based class
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>>583244754
You can stare at others peoples characters though
>>583244350
>>583244818
I think you’re engaging in some heavy duty wishful thinking there’s no reason for that to happen
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>>583250485
In some completely unused lore in some old books, Alpha Primus were essentially the rank above Alphas. They were some kind of command unit, a tactician, and very old veteran, decorated units as well.
In Darktide they are a Skitarii pattern upgrade that turns them into commandos.
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>>583229645
No, it’s very clearly a Slavic/Russian accent, you can argue it’s not a well done one but it’s overwhelmingly obvious that’s what the intention is
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Let me guess, its impossible to find a havoc game as a veteran now, the new strongest class?
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>>583251457
if it's plasma it's not playing
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>>583249090
>What gameplay niche did Skitarii fill?
Nothing, and that's what I mean. At best you could call it a reinterpretation of the skill tree and ability mechanics but as far as team functionality goes they were already scraping the bottom of the barrel, so I don't really know where else they could go from here.

In that sense I don't really care if the new class is SoB or not as long as the weapon selection is fun.
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>>583251514
lol
lmao
let it go already, plasma was killed like 2 nerfs ago
obviously it's a las pistol
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>>583229531
>>583235751
They definitely aren’t happening, but for the record there is a limit on what they can cancel out, if a presence is too powerful they can either outright die or nothing will happen, not that there’s liable to be anything like that roaming around here…
>>583226023
Ogryns are typically portrayed to be way stronger physically, and they’re usually bigger too.
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>>583249001
That's an autopistol, just a slightly different model to our Shredder. I don't blame you for forgetting it exists though. Alas, it was such fun at one time. Don't know about effective, but fun.
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>>583249090
Hybrid melee/ranged dps + toughness supplier
Same as veteran used to be, but they decided to kill vets hybrid builds and make him a pure ranged class now, to create a niche for Skitarii
>>583248805
Considering they are killing support zealot, it's obviously gonna be a melee dps / support. I want to believe they will finally figure out dual wielding and give plasma pistol to SoB, but that's wishful thinking mostly.
The thing with this game, a class doesn't need a unique role. There are only 4 players in a team and there will be 8 classes which should be interchangeable. It will literally be the same as Zealot but with emphasis on direct damage (lol, as if dots were good on zealot, but they pretend that bleed/fire is good)
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>>583250956
I mean, how would you even translate that into gameplay? It seems to me that they’re the same thing, their role just can’t fully shine or be done justice here, though it does beg the question of why they went with Alpha Primus and not just Alpha
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>>583234542
truth
>>583227335
they might be able to get away with it if they were african themselves or something, it’s the voicing the designated nog character that would probably get them in trouble
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>>583252172
>Hybrid melee/ranged dps
Are you under the impression that isn't literally every class in darktide?
>toughness supplier
Skitarii doesn't excel at this, and even if he did it's vastly inferior to Veteran.
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>>583249434
>Which will 100% kill zealot as a class.
It was killed when its cd reduction was nerfed. At that point it was already not good at providing piss toughness and you would be better off bringing 2 veterans for that purpose instead of a zealot.
Nerf of suppression on Chorus is a final nail in the coffin.
Anyway, what I wanted to say is that another piss toughness class would not kill zealot, its nerfs to zealot that kill ti, mainly his ability to suppress enemies.
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>>583252172
>new class gets 2 new unique ranged weapons
>gets no unique melee
>it will be a melee class because they gave zealot shitty dots
this logic makes no sense to me, i think it will very clearly be a vet clone more than a zealot clone just off the leaked weapon options
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>>583252428
>Skitarii doesn't excel at this
It does but people don't build for this
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>>583252480
>gets no unique melee
She gets veterans power sword which will be not unique but is very fucking strong, and she will be the only melee class with access to it.
Also weapon roster is not final, the leaked power axe is most likely meant for her to wield too.
Maybe we will even get a buff to eviscerator that will make it viable.
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>>583252428
>>toughness supplier
>Skitarii doesn't excel at this
It's the most consistent class at keeping everyone topped off actually, but doing so requires investing heavily in toughness generation, which implies investing very little in your ability, and optimizes towards not bringing an ability at all with the noosy build.
>>583252506
This is true, it's basically esoteric secret forbidden tech that nobody does. It's probably so unheard of that even trying to explain it is going to cause friction with the retarded mind of the average copeger.
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all the new ranged options are stuff that the sister of battle gets in boltgun 2
they'll probably take abilities from it too and give us a melta bomb, sword lunge and some kind of invuln
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I just wanted a funny M1 Garand, why di they fuck up the Rifle
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>>583253216
They didn't, it's good on a melee focused build. It's a better revolver. It hits pretty decent breakpoints in h40 and remains viable there.
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>>583253174
Wouldn't that mean that Boltgun 2 is close to release?
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>>583253272
throw a build
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>>583253174
>Melta bombs
>Will be krak bombs but somehow better
>Vet loses even more shit
Love to see it
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>>583253449
No, it'll cause an hour of sub-humans sperging out over it. I'll spare the thread the indignity.
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>>583253043
I don't like you agreeing with me, I feel dirty
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>>583253017
axe is more likely going to skitarii, do any sisters models even get axes?
i have seen nothing that points to it being a melee class, i think it will be ranged focus or at the very least have options for both
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>>583253557
k so it doesn't exist neat
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>>583253551
A finger curls on the monkey paw
>it follows the design philosophy of the ogryn frag bomb where you only get one
>no grenade regen
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>>583248805
a healer of some kind, going full hospitaller
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>>583253647
If you can't figure it out on your own based on the given clues, you're exactly the type to sperg out over it.
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>>583253373
it comes out in 2 weeks
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>>583253745
Oh neat, I hadn't noticed
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>>583253692
A healer class is antithetical to the genre, and Hospitallers are specialists, not grunts like generic Sisters/Novitiates.
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>Flabby Flounder still hasn't fixed the low res texture issues
Fucking hell it's been almost a year
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>>583253551
>oh noooo everyone is worried it will replace zealot and make them redundant we have to do something
>replaces vet and makes them redundant
BRAVO FLAPSHART
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>>583253551
>>583254167
>more vetsissy seething
You are such fucking pathetic losers LOL
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>>583254383
where were you all thread when people were saying the same about zealot?
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>>583254486
Playing the video game.
Although let's be honest here, zealot is still weirdly cucked by fatshark's refusal to give the class any strength talents, or any ability to deal effective damage without FotF. Being incredibly broken in the support role doesn't mean the class is fun or "good". It's ALREADY been replaced by psyker and scum in its intended role.
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>>583254486
zealot is the worst class in the game
veteran is one of the best, but it has a playerbase of faggots who will tell you it's weak and needs more buffs, and any nerf is a boycott worthy offense
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Are we pretending that fatshark does not try to replace vanilla classes? If OG4 is irreplaceable, who's gonna buy DLCs?
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>>583254813
vermintide did a good job making them all unique
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>>583254813
OG4 is the best havoc 40 lineup thougheverbeit. Scum only gets the crown when played by a very good player alongside a very good zealot, which means it's inconsistent, which means nobody wants it in pubs.
At least, concerning lobbies that actually achieve a good win rate anyway.
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when people say "the original 4 classes are the best havoc team" what they really mean is "I need veteran and psyker on my havoc team and I tell myself it's for any reason other than them being the strongest two classes in the game"
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I was extremely unimpressed with the maul for ogryn
Despite having an amazing moveset, its damage feels incredibly anemic which is what I was hoping for out of a two handed maul. It's somehow even worse than the borovian pickaxe spamming lights and has worse TTKs on everything, which is made drastically worse in practice and not psykanium warrior because of its awful blessings.
Extremely disappointing because for some fucking reason, fatshark fucking HATES HATES HATES HATES HATE HATE HATE HATE HATES light attack strikedowns in darktide for reasons incomprehensible to me and they never get the right damage profiles that they actually should. I guess it's not as bleak as the >>>>>Thammer
but still. It's usable and a decent easy to use weapon I guess. Not particularly strong but not terribly weak either. It's just disappointingly meh.
I sure do hope the other weapons are better.
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>>583254914
They did that by giving everyone magic
doesn't really work in 40k.
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>>583255306
>I need veteran and psyker on my havoc team
Uhh well yeah? Plasma/Smokes/Shout and Inferno/Dome deal so much damage and mitigate so much risk that they just make H40s easier, which is exactly why they're the two strongest classes in the game alongside Explogryn

The only one I'd call a flex pick is Zealot, but even then she's hard to find a reason to replace.
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>>583255312
It's another stagger spam weapon past the malice breakpoints, but we already have the power maul and slab shield heavies for that, so it fills no niche. The special attack strikedown is pretty good when fully charged, so there might be something there with the correct setups, but again it's nothing that other weapons don't already do.
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>>583254916
>OG4 haven't been replaced because they're still the meta sweatlord picks in havoc 40 which only 500 people worldwide play (double the population of expeditions)
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>>583255928
>she's
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>>583255928
Having played a lot of h40 I actually think psyker is the most replaceable, you just need to bring another high DPS class, and smokes on vet.
>>583256051
Just say you can't figure out why the classes are actually good because you are bad at the game. It's obvious enough that anyone screeching about vet is mad because bad.
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Is there even a fun way to play skit, seems it's always the same
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>>583256116
>xhe doesn't play female agitator
missing out
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So Sisters release October 14th or the week after?
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>>583256116
The default zealot is a she.
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>>583256508
lmao you just got a whole new map anon
try 4 weeks after
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>>583256430
>the guy who says zealot is maybe a flex pick and hard to replace in the havoc lineup is a fem zealot main
ah, I see

>>583256535
The promotional material rejects are fake news. The armor they wore wasn't even obtainable in game until like two years after launch.
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>>583256587
>Mechanicus was May 22
>Skitarii was June 23
You're probably right. I'd remembered those two being closer together and was assuming they'd release it the same time as Boltgun 2
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>>583255950
Yeah I guess that's why I'm so disappointed, it's yet another crowd control weapon on a class that has absolutely zero shortage of, and a serious lack of dps weapons.
Looks like it's nothing but branx and borovian pick memes still,
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>>583256116
being a zealot is kinda slutty, if you make yours a guy though hey it's 2026 I'm not gonna judge

>>583256158
>psyker is the most replaceable
Dome can swap for Shriek but otherwise literally nothing competes with the damage-for-density of Inferno staff other than MAYBE Rumbler PBB. And the question is, what would you replace him with and why?

>>583256397
I've been working on my 100 games penance with the knife, I feel like they make pretty good use of it as a primary without kneecapping themselves like the Zealot and the mobile playstyle of the weapon itself is definitely a lot more interesting than Transonicslop
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Most fun I've ever had with havoc 40 is 4 vets
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>6 more weeks of this
how can we force sweden to adopt a better work ethic?
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>>583256508
>>583256587
I would not expect it earlier than december.
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>>583257102
Can't be done.
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>>583256430
grandma is the worst zealot voice
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Quit complaining. They gave you one map and six weapons. Now you owe them two premium class pack purchases.
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>>583250146
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLs8mHRE8NU
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>>583257312
the worst is the shitty scottish accent only third worlders could enjoy
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>>583254054
It's been a problem even longer on xbox ever since it released. Doubtful fartshart will ever fix it.
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>>583257102
German occupation of the country.
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>>583257407
Schizophrenic take
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>>583255312
>mfw having tried all the new weapons for ogryn
Ogryn is cursed.
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>>583253557
Subhuman isn’t hyphenated
>>583255753
Did Bardin get magic? I don’t remember
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>>583257667
even the hammer???
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I played through the new campaign with Skitarii the first time.
Which other class should I use to grind out the rest of the event?
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>>583250632
>What an idiotic fucking argument.
Don't care. Your idea is stupid and boring.
We already have zealot, it's enough.
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>>583257663
Anyone ever slightly familiar can hear how horrible their attempt at a scottish accent is, it would take some african tribal who has never met anyone or even seen any media from the country to hear it and think it sounds okay.
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>>583257757
Especially the hammer.
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>>583257796
Here's the thing though: Sister of Battle is being added to the game. It is the next class.
Cope, seethe, you lost.
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FS forums are complaining about Psyker quell nerf in Havoc
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>>583257757
Yeah, it is honestly not good.
Pickaxe does more damage and has better blessings.
And the shield and paul are both better support tools with their stagg3r and skullcrusher and do more damage too.
Hammer isn't good.
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psykers deserve nothing
tired of flamesissies spewing DOTs on everyone and at the end WITHOUT FAIL smugly going
>heh guess who got half the kills
while they don't even have 1/4th the damage
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>>583258250
Irrelevant. It's still a worthless addition that adds nothing and only exists to make an already existing class useless.
Your ideas for sister have always amounted to "*smacks lips* ist cool doe"
Which doesn't mean shit.
I think a stormtrooper would be a cool idea to add but it is worthless fucking idea since veteran already exists.
We don't need either.
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>>583259115
idc fatshark agrees with me, they added it because it is cool
all you can do is cry more
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>>583258382
I haven't tried psyker yet, what's it about? No more instant 10% quell on spell release?
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what is cool about novitate though??
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>>583259565
sex with novitiates
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>>583259396
Yeah, the quelling debuff on Havoc was adjusted to also apply to the tap.
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>>583258382
I almost never active quell ever
It amazes me how bad the average person in this game is
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>>583256885
>literally nothing competes with the damage-for-density of Inferno staff other than MAYBE Rumbler PBB.
Rumbler PBB, GG PBB, even GG without PBB can manage adequately but it is worse yes. But there's no maybe here. An adequate rumbler ogryn that doesn't build into retarded melee cope and actually takes the burn talent and stacks every available source of reload speed and BLO, has extremely similar output to an inferno psyker. The main competition is actually FGS wave spam, but the concept is fundamentally the same.
Also, don't get too hung up on scoreboard performance. The ogryn does more than the psyker can even pretend to, because everything is now also brittle and knocked on their ass. A psyker who uses brittleness on the flame staff is a fucking retard and should get declined.
>what would you replace him with and why?
Scum, more damage, hard counters the director going apeshit with boss rushes, is a better Field Improv abuser than ogryn (rituals notwithstanding). In rituals on sand maps specifically, a Redline claw skitty, for reliable daemonhost deletion.
>ogryn starts whacking it
>chorus it into a wall
>Skullcrusher on
>claw claw claw
>that's over half of its HP bar from the claw alone

The main problem with all of the above is that most ogryns are just complete dogshit. Even when they do bring the correct build, it feels like half of them can't pull it off effectively. Hell, most ogryns that happen to bring the rumbler don't even use it correctly, often enough, or are just retarded overall and only TOOONK with push spam or whatever the fuck it is that makes them somehow deal less damage than a support zealot. I don't get it.
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>>583259365
Fatshark is retarded. Them agreeing with you just means you are retarded.
Also you always do this "well they agree with me :)" thing when you lose the argument, ponytranny
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>>583259565
It's playing as zealot but in nicer clothes.
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>>583260231
>the quelling debuff on Havoc
Lol I didn't even know about this
Everyone was using taps
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>>583260705
People were using taps exactly because holding quell had a significant debuff to it, making tapping much faster.
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>>583260332
>I don't get it.
It might surprise you but most ogryn players want to play ogryn as an ogryn, not as an unwieldy trauma psyker.
Rumbler spam is effective, honestly too effective, but just because I know, doesn't mean that I care.
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>>583260329
It'd because you only play a poorly designed flame staff. You need to quell with every other staff.
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>>583260868
Bringing a half-assed pseudo ranged build and then played retardedly is... probably too in-character to ogryn intelligence and very likely not intentional on the player's part.
Pure melee focus ogryn is sub-optimal but viable. The problem is that virtually nobody plays a viable build. They just play random cobbled together horseshit with no clear goal.
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>>583260970
>You need to quell with every other staff.
You just run Gaze with every other staff.
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>>583259115
>Irrelevant
It changes your argument from "I personally think it's a bad idea so it'll never happen" to "I am coping and seething eternally that a thing I thought would never happen is happening," and that's beautiful :)
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>>583260404
>i win i win lalalalalala
what did you win anon? i got the class i wanted, your opinions don't matter to me in the slightest
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>>583260332
>because everything is now also brittle and knocked on their ass
nta but I am the main damage dealer, why would I bring brittleness instead of a damage blessing?
>crushers could be here
picrelated
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>>583260332
>just retarded overall and only TOOONK with push spam or whatever the fuck it is that makes them somehow deal less damage than a support zealot.
kek literally me easiest h40 climb of my life
just spread skullcrusher and tooonk brah
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>>583259565
sister of battle but canonically 12 years old
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>>583261790
>why would I bring brittleness instead of a damage blessing?
Because the rumbler only has Blaze Away. Blast Zone is overkill, nobody bothers aiming at heads for Marksman's Reflex, and Shrapnel is actually really quite bad. I'm fairly certain that stacking up brittleness on the boss is going to deal more damage overall than Adhesive Charge (because your teammates contribute damage), and you don't need to stick the grenade to ogryns.
Ideally, if rumbler had a good second damage blessing, yes, you would skip it. The best brittleness spammer is zealot with crusher, accepting that he'll deal no damage and just going pure support + stagger + debuff.
>>583261809
Pure tank tauntbot ogryn is safe and one of the better ways of getting True Survivor, but it's not good. There is no reason you should be TOOOOOOOONKING when you could just run a Confident Strike club and whack everything and have similar, if not better, survivability while also dealing damage. Also pickaxes (doesn't the paul also get it?) are better at push spamming anyway, because the brittleness blessing applies while pushing. And also, you provide more safety just spamming the rumbler nonstop than a melee cope ogryn can pretend to.
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So whats the new best build/weapons for zealot?
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Why does the Ragged King talk exactly like my Grok?
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>>583263026
the uninstall wizard
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>>583263026
FOTF undying spam is kind of fun but the best build by a million miles is still the sissy crusher chorus faggot
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>>583256535
>>583256430
the default zealot is the drunk depressed scotsman and you can't convince me otherwise
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>>583246259
>>583247646
you'll be my eyecandy fuckmeat as I play ogryn
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>>583261678
It doesn't change anything. Don't try to twist into something it isn't.
>>583261785
Never said I won anything.
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>>583249090
doing trickshots and sightseeing while the game plays itself for you
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>>583265043
so now you're simping for dudes playing girl characters
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>>583251572
the skill tree is really just the same system but with 4 branches instead of 3 making it even harder to mix and match some skills
But the new shape totally stunlocks people and makes them turn their brain off and go "wow it new"
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>>583250950
>You can stare at others peoples characters though
yes, I will be staring at your ass. because you will be a cute girl for me.
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Hold the fucking phone. So if I'm taking these 4 nodes I can get up to +70% melee attack speed? That's fucking ridiculous.
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>>583265105
>It doesn't change anything
It does. The entire dynamic of the sister of battle argument has shifted. You're no longer arguing about why it will never be included, you're now listing your grievances with it being included, also commonly known as seething.
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>>583265292
I am not deadnaming you baby shake that ass for me
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>>583265375
>>583265530
>rape vibes with a hint of homoeroticism
brown
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>>583265421
only right after you die every 120 seconds
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>>583265421
Shit, didn't even notice this one! Make that up to +80%.
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>>583265472
It hasn't shifted. You are the only insisting upon it because you have no arguments left.
We already have zealot, meaning sisters aren't needed, they add nothing to the game and don't bring any worth while gimmicks either.
It is a worthless addition like a stormtrooper or a minotaur.
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>>583265634
there's nothing homoerotic about watching a woman's ass shake.

now there's definitely something homoerotic about pretending to be a girl and shaking your ass for other men I would say, but nowadays we actually recognize your wish to be a girl as cute and heckin valid rather than a subset of homosexuality
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>>583265676
Zealous Pilgrim also triggers on ability use. And FotF is very spammable. Not getting to take Holy Revenant on a martyrdom build is kinda iffy though to be honest.
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>>583265421
This is the reason why zealot doesn't have any strength nodes in the tree.
Zealot is meant to DPS max through attack speed instead.
Just set up a macro to get most of it.
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>>583265837
>It hasn't shifted
It has
>you have no arguments left
I no longer need to argue. Victory has been achieved. Sister of Battle IS the next class in Darktide. GG.
>We already have zealot, meaning sisters aren't needed
Unbelievable that you managed to reiterate this dogshit opinion for four years only just to be completely wrong.
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>>583265849
you're talking way too much about sex adjacent things for someone who has never had sex
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Why is every fucking arbites a fucking clown that abandons the group? Literally every time. Theyre either running as fast as they can ahead & triggering cohesion loss, or trying to solo the game when their allies are down. Full on ignoring people needing help up to either kill minor shit on the other end of the room/corridor or push a button/servoskull. Like dude, I shouldnt be the only one reviving downed allies, this isnt a fucking solo game, im the one killing monstrosities anyhow
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>>583266389
The class attracts shitters because it's very hard to kill. For new players it teaches just about every bad habit you can learn, frankly I don't think anybody should even touch arbites until they have a solid grasp on how to play the game.
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>>583265837
Why are you arguing with ratjeet/sobtroon? It's obvious this nigger is just a troll. Are you new?
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>>583266117
It hasn't changed. You keep insisting on it because you have nothing else, it's also why you insist you won.
>sister of battle IS the next class
It's a novitiate. You are already coping, this is why you keep insisting you won. When in reality it is not what you really wanted.
You are very easy to read. I can tell you keep you responding in increasingly insistant manner, you do it because you are getting angry.
This is why you also are starting to attack my character instead of the content, you do it because your kind knows nothing else to do when beaten.
>iterate the same opinion
Because I'm consistent unlike you. I have my kept my opinion the same for 4 years, shitters of butthole don't add anything new or worthwhile to the game. Same goes for stormtrooper, same goes for minotaur.
Zealot is all we needed, we don't need sister of battle or novitiate.
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>>583267108
It's fun to keep baiting them to reply.
I already know sisters are coming, I'm just annoying them intentionally.
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>>583267605
Fuck off tranny
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>>583267605
Right, you're writing out essays about how you're definitely not seething because you're trying to annoy someone else. Sure.
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>>583262297
>I'm fairly certain that stacking up brittleness on the boss is going to deal more damage overall than Adhesive Charge
I'm fairly certain you are wrong
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>>583267761
You can just stop firing after brittleness is on the boss, or never fire in the first place and apply brittleness through melee and not waste ammo. Good teams don't need the ogryn to shoot during the boss fight.
It's unfortunately pretty hard to run the numbers exactly. Brittleness isn't that amazing so Adhesive Charge may still pull ahead slightly, in the specific singular case of fighting bosses.

Realistically, Adhesive Charge is objectively stronger with retarded teams who can't keep a boss in one spot and will cause shots that missed because your retards are kiting the boss rather than stunlocking it, to hit it instead, because the shot stuck.
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>>583267674
There’s only one way to get rid of a tranny and that’s to make her yours and fuck her regularly
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>post about sisters in darktide literally anywhere else
>Yippee! New class! Cool theme! Can't wait!
>post about sisters in darktide in /copeg/
>Actually, I think you'll find no one is excited for sister of battle, and in fact her inclusion is the epitome of failed game design. In this essay I will be listing the reasons sister of battle cannot, in fact be permitted...[several hours later] AGP, TRANNIES, SOME REDDITOR BRONY, AND ALSO WOMEN OWE ME SEX
explain this phenomenon
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>>583268032
You can just wait a couple years and 41% of them take care of themselves actually.
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>>583268141
Do you need help finding report button?
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>>583268141
I find both equally annoying, I want to discuss these things and find more info on them, not read mindless sycophants hyping eachother up over nothing
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>>583268141
Estrogenic post screaming for attention
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>>583268141
>AGP, TRANNIES, SOME REDDITOR BRONY
>explain this phenomenon
It is the truth. We have 1-2 severely mentally ill trannies who constantly, relentlessly, for several hours at a time, shit up the thread with nothing but SoBtroonery. (You) are most likely him, of course. I'm making this post to educate all the dumbass newfags in here who haven't learned to lurk yet.
You should join your 41% xisters btw.
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>>583268404
>b-both sides
I'll ram a fence post so far up your ass you'll find god.
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>>583268509
There is nothing funnier on this website than some keyboard warrior thinking he has your identity 100% dialed in when he's already called several other people that same name that same day that weren't you, and also he's completely fucking wrong.
You'll never know what a fucking clown you are to me because you genuinely think you're nailing it every time.
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these are the upcoming novitiate abilities
>charge ability
>aoe buff ability
>self buff ability
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>>583268512
>unfitting buzzword
This isn't even a both sides kind of thing, you just cited 2 retards who I don't want to engage with. It's not a dichotomy, there are more options, which is people actually discussing materia, like what happens in this thread very frequently and easily
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>>583268803
Don't be silly, there's nothing about Darktide worth discussing other than the next class.
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>>583268706
Hey, consider this:
If there really are more than 1-2 mentally ill obsessed trannies who can't stop trooning out over shitters of butthole, you're only further reinforcing the stereotype by doing what you're doing right now.
Don't forget to dilate, faggot.
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>>583268509
>>583268194
>>583268442
>>583250596
somehow it was even worse last year, I guess we should be thankful they were humbled after the shitshow that was hive scum
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>>583268910
I never said I don't want to discuss the new class though, it's why I'm here right now and I've been finding that discussion easily. I don't know why you want to whine about these things so bad. Just don't look at shitposts, it's so easy to just filter mentally
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>>583268928
Oh no, I'll be stereotyped by a bunch of schizophrenic turds who spent four years arguing against the inclusion of a class that's coming out in two months, what will I do?
Continue to farm laughs by poking you with a stick, that's what.
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>>583268972
It was the brony troon last year, and now the ratjeet imitating it. If there are any more, >>583268928 already sums it up.
It's pretty damning, really.
>>583269090
>we won
>sobbies won
>I won btw
You must be Indian or something. You being an obnoxious nigger is the problem. I don't give a fuck about sisters.
>inb4 LE SHIFTING LE GOAL POSTS AGAIN HAHA I WON!!!
You will never be a woman and you will never be white, no matter how hard you cope. I suggest you rope.
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>>583269246
Buttfrustrated clown
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>>583269389
Notice how xe resorts to personal insults instead of trying to say I was wrong.
Nice job admitting it.
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>>583269450
Oh I'm sorry I didn't take
>you are...AN INDIAN? and...PROBABLY A TROON TOO?! also BROWN!
completely seriously and offer a proper rebuttal.
What a fucking joke of a human being, you've genuinely got me curling over from laughter.
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You can tell this guy is on HRT because estrogen makes you manic and emotionally incontinent, but because he's got the brain of a male, he expresses that mania with male aggression, which is innate and never goes away. Basically put it makes them insufferably smug and bitchy, and the revulsion you feel towards them is because you can tell at a level that isn't quite conscious.
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>>583269613
>trying this hard to sell that you aren't absolutely anally annihilated
lol
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>>583269658
Completely sane post.

>>583269678
lol
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>>583266835
Thats what I dont get. The Arbites is perfect for being the guy everyone should rally around, but its nothing but retards who want to act like they can solo the game instead
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>>583269658
That makes a disturbing amount of sense actually
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Ratjeet lost.
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This is from Darktide. Anybody else having these sorts of problems?
Fatshark being Fatshark when it comes to AMD cards?
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>>583269785
It's mostly bad players by volume, and you'll rarely notice the good ones unless you stop to look at why the whole team is suddenly performing better than expected. I play mine as a kind of bruiser, a horde comes in, I pop nuncio, and I start circling a small area staggering anything that comes close. Armor gets bonked. I whip the bolt pistol out for specials that were missed, sometimes a stray shot flies out at a reaper or group of gunners to stack suppression, and the dog does whatever it wants assuming I'm running it. It's a good way to play, even up to havoc because you can't go wrong with crowd control.
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every general i enter has someone sperging out 24/7 about their thread boogeyman nemesis who they have given a name and has been living in their shadows for years and years and they can never see it as the blatant paranoid schizophrenia it is
every single general, without fail. what is up with that?
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>>583270647
>what is up with that?
The literal truth that there is such a boogeyman in every general ever since the demographics of the internet around 2016 owing to a little company known as Jio.
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>>583270647
4chan is not a place for the mentally well.
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>>583270647
If more than one person is living in a thread they will end up hating each other because everyone here is on the spectrum and they will both feel some sense of ownership over the place they spend so much time in.
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has anyone found any heretic idols on spillway? there are penances for them, but i havent seen a single one
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>>583271527
That's because there are none. Fatshark released an impossible penance.
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>>583270647
Because this board is genuinely full of such people, it's an unavoidable aspect of generals on 4chan. If someone posts a lot in a very particular way about particular subjects and with particular images, they become recognizable. That doesn't stop other anons from being accused of being That Guy if they happen to exhibit some of the same patterns, that's where the paranoia comes in.
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>>583270647
People trying to simulate the high and finality of successfully doxxing while having none of the skills or information necessary for it. It's meant to be the final insult, the end of the argument, but of course they miss the mark entirely so instead they just keep posting their dox in thread after thread.
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>>583271527
i remember finding one in a little cubby i don't really know how to communictate where it is i am too busy fighting to map the place out mentally
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>>583271990
Before or after certain objectives? That would help narrow it down.
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>>583270592
What's the problem?
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>>583268141
nothing kills excitement like obnoxious attention-seeking trannies
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>>583273809
>I can't enjoy the sister of battle leaks because the people I've been calling trannies for four years in this thread are excited about it and it proves me wrong
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>>583274005
Not that I share his opinion but wouldn't that prove him right?
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>>583274005
can you do the world a favor and make it 42%
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>>583270592
amd cards are shitty, anyone else saying they arent is cope
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>>583274115
don't feed into his delusions of grandeur, he's insufferable enough as is
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>>583274115
The proving wrong part is them saying sister was never ever happening, and now it is.
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>>583274536
Well he isn't wrong, we aren't getting sisters. We are getting novitiates.
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>>583274428
He seems pretty well known around here, are you sure it's delusions?
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>>583274971
That'd be like saying "we aren't getting sisters, we're getting Repentia." The point was a female locked class with good cosmetics that aren't just reshaped male cosmetics. Novitiate, repentia, sister, they all deliver.
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>>583271527
I saw one in the fleshy butthole part but I couldnt tell you where
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>>583274995
infamy and grandeur aren't the same thing, he's more of a village idiot everybody wants to see euthanized
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>>583275173
>infamy and grandeur aren't the same thing,
Honestly if he streamed he'd get more views and money than you
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>still no date for when SoB releases
>the coping and sneeding will continue for an indeterminate amount of time
grim...
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>>583275129
That one specific guy who was harping on and on about heavy bolters, power armor and seraphim packs is not getting any of what he wanted
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>>583275354
so would chris-chan, what's yer point
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>>583275373
>still no date
Early December at the absolute latest. Same deal for Hive Scum, possibly as soon as two weeks if GW forces a tandem launch with Boltgun 2.
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>>583275543
I'm pretty sure the heavy bolter guy is coping that sister getting it means ogryn will get it, and he wants it on ogryn
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>finally see spillway outside of campaign
>daemon just keeps reviving rodin in the shit pit for us to kill
Damn, being a Nurgle worshipper sucks.
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>>583275949
the plague boils didn't tip you off?
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>>583275949
Only looking from the outside in, because nurgle worshipers have all their pain removed
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>>583275742
If they really go for a simultaneous launch with boltgun 2 it will be a disaster
It will explain the hastily put together roster of existing weapons, but it will be a joke of DLC. I don't think either fatshark or GW are this stupid.
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>>583276118
on the other hand, he did have his body stolen from him, so
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>>583275129
>that aren't just reshaped male cosmetics
They still will be because the actual body hasn't changed. Also fatshark is lazy
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>>583275890
Sisterfag specifically wants the heavy bolter on sister so ogryn doesn't get it.
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>>583276291
Any release would be a disaster of some sort because fatshark doesn't do intensive QA testing, some issues always slip through and they let the community figure it out. Personally my guess would be a mid november release to give them time to do hotfixes before they go on holiday. I'm quite certain that GW at least cares nothing for quality so long as they hit their marketing targets, but then again this isn't Skulls so it may be a different story.
>I don't think either fatshark or GW are this stupid.
I admire your optimism, but don't you think it's about time the hope in your eyes is extinguished?
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>>583273263
See the multicolor texture?
>>583274362
I hate that this might be the case. I switched to Linux and decided to have my new machine a few years ago be AMD based as AMD stuff just works on Linux stuff while Nvidia needs a bit more work.
Just tired of Microsoft bloat.
But it sucks that what you said might be true even if you're shitposting.
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>>583276772
>fatshark doesn't do intensive QA testing,
Even this is a lie.
Not on the fatshark being lazy side. That much is objectively correct. But
>intensive QA testing
Really, nigger? They do NO QA testing whatsoever. The most retarded, surface level bugs don't just slip through, they just fucking ship them without any testing at all.
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>>583276478
Nah, scum's shirtless cosmetics are all handmade for the bare female body because they had to be or they'd fit horrifically. All the other full chest cosmetics are just male cosmetics reshaped because Fatshark doesn't want to pay to have them made twice. There's no reason they'd send instructions to their chink 3d modelers
>hey so this is for a female locked class but shape it like it's for a man initially so we can tweak it slightly to actually fit the class its for later
that shit makes no sense
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>>583276987
they have literal playtesters like hank but they're all retarded
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>>583277612
It's just as you said. They do not have playtesters. They have retarded sycophants that they give the label of "playtester". Just because you stick a label on something doesn't mean that thing is now what that label says it is.
Although that's maybe being too generous, these are scandi retards, there's a non-zero chance they're either intentionally instating the biggest retards imaginable as playtesters to avoid having to do work, or maliciously ignoring any real bug reports to avoid having to do work. Instead they spend 7 hours of their 8 hour work day in the dog petting room.
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>>583276893
>See the multicolor texture?
That's just what old copper pipes look like. They darken with age and the green stuff on them is called "verdigris", a copper compound that forms via oxidization.
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>>583278157
Fun fact, this is why the statue of liberty is green, its entire surface is oxidized copper.
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>>583270592
>Fatshark being Fatshark when it comes to AMD cards?
It's every dev in my experience, not just Fatshark. Very very few devs give a fuck about AMD.
Regardless of how you wanna place the blame though it probably is the problem, I remember similiar issues with the psyker bubble, gave similar color vomit issues.
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>>583222417
You’re way too obvious and shameless better luck next time
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Which of the darktide characters is best for retards who don't like to use the melee weapons? I've been using Ogryn which has been good
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>>583280562
It's ogryn because of toughness on brace alone
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>>583280562
Ogryn is the best if you don't want to bother even learning the melee at all, since you can just staggerrape everything and not even get touched.
Psyker can sorta get away with almost never using melee, but you still need to swap to melee to push enemies away, and maybe occasoinally pull out your greatsword to cleave through trash when your staff doesn't cut it. But if you use ground pound staff, you can kinda use nothing but.
That's honestly about it. It's hard to get away with it as vet. Scum's ranged build was nerfed too much.
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>>583280762
Can Vet do it?
I've tried a few times but I don't really do enough with the infinite lasgun ammo to feel like I'm contributing and I have to skate by on ammo pickups when I'm using a bolter or plasma
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>>583280932
use iag, i found it to be more effective than recon despite the fact it eats ammo
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>>583278157
I see.
>>583279157
>It's every dev in my experience, not just Fatshark. Very very few devs give a fuck about AMD.
Well I guess I am going to suffer.

I verified integrity of my game but maybe the problem will persist. Time will tell.
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>>583280932
i only play vet as recon, and no. you will be in a situation where you will need to melee and shout or piss view arent enough to stop that. hive scum is better at it with desperado.
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Guys its all going to be okay, you know why? SoB is going to just be light attack spam like the rest of the classes.
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>>583281927
If I could tie you to the nose of a plane that flew into the WTC, I would
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>>583282418
Id just spam light attacks at the robe and free myself.
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>>583276118
Not all of it, there’s a special buzzing, humming ‘pain’ that they always feel, it’s always present and they can never get used to it but it’s there
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>>583278157
Yeah but the dielectric corrosion shouldnt be purplish/iridescent & square shaped. The graphics is still choppy

>>583270592
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>>583280932
Vet can and should ideally get away with using mostly their gun and rarely, ideally never, their melee, but the problem is that pubbies won't allow you to do this. it's basically havoc luxury, and even then you'll have to occasionally clear trash that trickles through.
In auric, the best you can do if you want to autistically use primarily your gun is, like... explosive boltgun? Maybe explosive plasma? Neither gun gives a fuck about getting surrounded, you just blow everything up and brute force your way through even trash hordes, but both guns are unwieldy and very ammo hungry, which isn't a huge problem in auric, but your mobility and having to ninja ammo away from your worthless teammates will be. You'll still need a knife for move speed to yoink ammo out from under the greasy hands of your retarded shotgun spammer who does an eighth your damage with triple the ammo consumption somehow.

You're ultimately still better off doing PBB ogryn or ground pound psyker imo.
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>>583282418
>If I could tie you to something that never existed, I would
huh?
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the new following nonceio aquila really fucks
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>>583284642
mine just hovers around me, I think you got special one.
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>>583249090
Sci-fi/Space Fantasy game NEEDS Engineer/Tech class
It was blatantly missing here
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>>583285394
>gameplay niche
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>>583248805
As discussed here >>582948434, Dominions have your typical mix of melee and ranged and special weapons, Retributors have large heavy bolters and heavy flamers and multimeltas and have a weapon bracing mechanic, and Hospitallers have team buffs and corruption cleansing and health regen. All three of them have an armor system as a gameplay niche currently unexplored, where you can have a mobility vs protection vs load bearing triangle. You can brace weapons and gain accuracy with heavy weapons, or you can run fast, or you can have extra armor. The armor is represented with a new grey health bar that is over toughness and hp that deteriorates over the course of the match as you take damage and cannot be repaired.

Also as an aside I don't post here often, I mostly swung by when I heard they're adding sob. There is A LOT of misinformation in these threads, I don't always get to it all. I've been playing 40k for 20 years and I have several armies including SoB, some of the stuff I read here is totally made up.
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>>583248805
>Ratlings for actual sniping and not just rifles.
>The Exotic Xenos; so Eldar
>Some kind of Space Marine representation because I'm sure behind the scenes GW is egging them for it.
>A Pure support, i.e., a proper medic, maybe?

Honestly not much left. We have some solid classes already

>Veterans for gunplay and Guardsmen rep
>Zealots for melee and as face of the Imperial Cult
>Psykers for wizards
>Ogryns for big boys with big guns
>Arbitrators for pure tanking/bruising
>Hive Scum for Agility lovers
>Skitarii for Generalist
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>>583283063
explodey plasma works decent in auric yes you can clear trash with it and snipe elites but you gotta move fast cause you wanna vacuum up all the ammo on the map even on auric

you will still need to melee self defense when your team wanders off or goes down or whatever
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>>583268404
This. I don't mind if they do SOB; I'm just not autistic about needing pretty faces in vidya like others are.
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>>583286495
you genuinely believe darktide's classes are sorted into these "categories" and are distinct within them? really?
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>>583287284
Well the brought up niches so that's what I went with.

What makes you assume I'm "genuine"? Like I'm slavish about this and not just doing this for fun? Or to muse on the subject of "what class is next" in a way that isn't just autism over SOB or against SOB?

Maybe I'm a normal person and not some slabbering /v/ faggot that get's red faced at everything.
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Miraculist would be cooler here than in Rogue Trader. We could use another Psyker class
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>>583286495
Oh fuck...

What if we get Failed Aspirant/SoB as a class? Where you either play a SoB if your a woman or a Space Marine reject if male?
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>>583285394
Skitarii is just another generic soldier class
Tech Adept will be the engineer class with turret/Servitor tarpit pets
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>>583288535
You understand that the growth implants are some of the first things implanted? A washout would be a completely different profile to a human female. Just like the ogryn the sobbies can be a monosex class and not introduce further unnecessary work for the Swedes.
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>>583288503
>computah
>make bimbo
>computah do
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>>583289919
Uh oh the tranny is back
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>>583290232
Oh shit where? Can you ask Claude to point him out to me?
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>>583289428
>will be
There’s not going to be another AdMech class
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>>583285884
You're getting a rookie in carapace armor who's just going to play like veteran + zealot. If you want any of that shit you've mentioned, better go move to Sw*den and find a job as fartshart's gameplay designer.
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>>583249090
"I hate the data interrogator"
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>>583290490
But two(2)(二)(zwei) classes each for the Imperial Guard and Ecclesiarchy are ok?
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reminder that the guess that it's novitiate is based on one datamined pair of leather boots, and is entirely ignoring the weapon roster, which includes bolters and plasma guns, weapons novitiates don't use
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Ratjeet is one of the most lovable characters ITT, every time people mention him and say they "hate him" I know it's just tongue in cheek. By the way I hope it's not sister of battle because I don't want to play as a girl.
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I just hope the new class, whatever it is, has weapons that don't fucking suck.
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>>583291353
hows about really fucking suck?
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>>583291504
There's no way they'd make them suck on malice, right? ...Right?
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imagine if it is really just a SoB novice and not a proper sister LMAO the melty will be legendary
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>mission aborts the exact moment that we complete it
Fuck. I even had to solo clutch like 3 or 4 times
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>SoB is revealed to be the next class
>the rat tranny is still chuckling to himself at the idea of people being disappointed had it been a different class
Weird guy
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Why are the Arbites premium cosmetics cheaper than the other two dlc classes
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>contracted to kill gorillion scabs
>only come across dregs
>contracted to kill a gorillion dregs
>only come across scabs

Why?
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Shit I guess nobody told this psyker that the inferno staff isn't good in Aurics. It just doesn't have the enemy density. Only 1.9 million? Psh, should've been using the electro staff then maybe he could've done some real damage.
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Brunt in the new mission is extremely cool, just yelling at you to get the fuck moving non stop. Retarded ass 50 IQ ogre in charge
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>>583294774
>rescued operatives: 7 (SEVEN)
Even having enough enemy density to deal 2 million damage in auric (even in a maelstrom) is an aberration, regardless of build. If anything, this just implies everyone else was fucking useless.
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>>583295110
CataCHADs know that unnecessary yapping will just get you killed
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>>583291218
You started out shit but pivoted into goodness at the end
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>>583295110
They should've made an ogryn personality to play like him
>rude and doesn't say much
>default speech mode is yelling
>extremely retarded
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>>583293956
Maelstrom modifiers include "dreg only" and "scab only".
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Not a lot of skitties around no more
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>>583297837
because it's the only DLC class not on sale rn
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>>583297837
I played it almost exclusively for like 2 months give me a break I want to thunder hammer now
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Fuck I forgot I have to climb up from h30 again, I'm just going to skip this fucking season and play my shitpost builds in aurics
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Played around 100h poxclick with a friend but now he's done, I'm all alone.
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>>583299324
I quite enjoy solo queue
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>>583246369
you didn't even know what a miraculist was until Rogue trader sybau its not miraculist
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>>583248619
big if true
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Mods for Darktide can replace assets now, so even if Fatshark wont add a nice SoB, modders for sure will
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>>583253692
Fatshark is on record saying they don't want to make healer classes
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>>583300271
Zealots can heal eachother now for what it's worth, and Fatshark is also on record saying "truth changes"
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>>583300271
fatshark says a lot of things
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Is this where I post about sm2.
Have there been any datamines about the weapons available to the apothecary
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>>583301328
Sorta. You can talk about it here, but /sm2g/ is on /vm/ currently and they have a better handle on news like that, and they could use more posters too.
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>>583302281
Cheers, didn’t know they moved
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>>583303160
It was difficult for them to stay active on this board given all the gacha spam.
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>>583299324
Cute Yotsu
That’s pretty decent honestly
Come join us now
>>583300196
That’s pretty cool
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>>583301328
The datamine about his weapon selection is worthless, it's literally just vanilla techmarine code copied line for line, including the "power halberd," which there is no way they're giving him.
We know from Saber he's getting the absolver pistol, and the absolver pistol has 9 base damage and 4.5 headshot mult, which is fucking stupidly strong, but that's all for now.
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I saw what you deleted misposter-kun
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>>583303693
you can talk about helldivers 2 here, they literally can't stop you
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Is the huntsman shotgun any good for hive scum
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Can we please for the love of the Emperor nerf boombers.

>Has perfect aim and tracking
>No cap on how long they can throw
>Will throw 3 boombs in the span of 10 seconds
>It takes fucking forever for the fire to go out
>WILL lob boombs as at you from out of bounds
>Does 5 bagillion damage because the fire scaling is broken
But the worst one of all
>THEY STILL FUCKING DROP A BOMB ON THE FLOOR EVEN BEFORE PULLING THE PIN

WHY IS THIS SHIT STILL IN THE GAME AFTER 4 YEARS
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>>583303989
why would they though? /hdg/ is a better thread
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guys i am like... real lonely.
Hitting 30, havent had a friend in 10 years.
My autistic ass legit is terrible at interaction. Even the idea of chat is a bit nerve wracking. But i want to get better so i can find some people to play tabletops in my town so... recommend coop games to me? I am considering barotrauma, helldivers 2 or monster hunter wilds.
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>>583305151
I hate the Trapper+Bomber/Poxdude spam that sometimes happens. Get netted & then sit in the fire/green fire so my team cant even fucking save me
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>>583305156
is that why it keeps dying
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>>583305882
Ny snap solution to this is finding a hobby space that enables your crippling porn addiction.
My friends?
All anthro appreciators.
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>>583305882
The games themselves won't help much, everyone's too focused on playing them to socialize, you'll want to enter into a community around the games and that's usually an official discord, as distasteful as it may be 4chan will not work, anonymity is antithetical to learning social etiquette. Bring some knowledge or humor to the table to break the ice and chat with people. Real life socializing is a whole other beast though, but the same advice generally works, get a hobby and talk with others in the hobby space.
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>>583304185
please answer saars
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>>583305882
hd2 and mhw are good directions, yeah. Darktide peeps can be cool, but some are extra toxic depending on the spaces you hang around in. Consider getting evaluated for anxiety as well. If you are super anxious about social interactions, and your symptoms are mostly physical (shaking hands, stuttery voice), propranolol might be a good thing to pick up from a doctor.
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>>583307127
>propranolol might be a good thing to pick up from a doctor
Booze helps without the doctors appointment and prescriptions. A BAC of 0.05 is enough to shut down the worst of anxiety.
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>>583305882
Helldivers 2 isn't very good, no one talks in game, unless you join their trannycord.
Monster Hunter Wilds could be good if you join a discord for it, but again no one talks in-game.
Honestly, just pick a game that you enjoy or might enjoy and...
If you noticed the theme; You should join some discord groups. VC in them, talk with people and become a regular. It's pretty easy to do as long as you don't outright piss people off.
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>>583307127
>>583307092
My issue is more that i've been mostly on my pc my whole life so i get a severe case of 'am i passing? Do i look like a retard?' to the point i wonder if the way i walk is retarded(someone once said i walk like i am kicking stuff...)
I feel the urge to run, i feel the urge to shake my body off like a dog.

Its probably anxiety as you said. I probably should go for a therapist.
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>>583306589
Mutilated that ratjeetcuck
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>>583282418
Kinographic insult, brodar.
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>>583305882
No More Room in Hell (1 or 2, doesn't matter) randoms tend to be chatty as long as someone initiates a VOICE conversation. Text works too, but the odds of a proper convo decrease somewhat (on the second game at least).
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>>583307634
A therapist can also help you better structure a path forward for yourself even if it doesn't end up being an anxiety disorder. You can get prescribed something from a doctor to handle the things out of your control, and have a therapist work with you on the things that you can/want to control yourself. You'll be fine, anon.
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>>583307117
>>583304185
Pretty much any gun is good for desperado hivescum, some more than others. Huntsman on them can be fantastic since you can alleviate ammo concerns reliably.
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>>583229778
>ugly
>takes off makeup
>even uglier
lel
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>play spillway auric high intensity shock troop gauntlet
>2000 enemies
>250 specialist
are the spawns broken? I never used the scoreboards and that seems high. Specialists spawns on the new map feel way more frequent than normal
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What does fully charged mean
surely it can't mean when the heavy automatically lets go if you hold it long enough
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>>583313368
That is precisely what it means.
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>>583313368
It does and LOOK UP THE KULI GUIDES
Blessings sometimes just don't describe things.
The Unstoppable Force blessing does ignore all hitmass on full charge, but on partial charge it also ignores the carapace cleave reduction effect.
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Plague bearers and Nurglings when? Second enemy faction when?
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All y'all? I don't think we all getting jeans stealers any time soon
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>>583312958
"Broken", I think that map is intentionally spawning many more than usual. Like even just just Hi-intensity is a lot. Though I'd say I don't mind if other maps start to have this spawn rate amount to compensate for the players power creep level. Feels much better to push people stick together than giving some leeway in current auric.
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>>583312958
Please don't tell fatshark...
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>join quickplay auric
>set up to special snipe, don't have good horde clear
>p
>only person on our team that does is a zealot who ran ahead
>guy dies behind right as I'm spawning in, go to save him
>die next to him
>other guy goes to pick us up, gets dogged
>pan over to zealot, he's got almost no enemies on him
>gets thrown off the map by a barrel he knicked swinging into 2 (two) pox walkers
>blames us for throwing
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>>583318075
no matter the game type, no matter the build, no matter the skill level, zealot players are always shit
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>>583318929
it lets you be stupid i take all the DR talents so i don't have to worry when i run headfirst into ten bursters
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Does anyone know if this talent counts for warp critical hits?
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>>583321635
it does
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made the mistake of not playing chordclaw skitarii on the new boss and had a very unpleasant 20 minute slog that ended in defeat with 2 and a half people that could not stay vertical for more than 20 seconds
fuck my stupid chud life.
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>>583316547
Probably not for months at the least
>>583316771
This is true probably
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>>583322608
If it's any consolation the Chordclaw wasn't going to do shit because he's got a massive health gate mechanic, boss bursting doesn't really work
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>>583326527
it could still do the max damage per cycle by yourself though...
all in all i liked the boss however, first Finale event/boss that felt like it's got the same bite vermintide one's had.
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>doing the chodeclaw penace, kill 5 elites in 10 seconds
>kill 12 in 10 seconds by slapping the shit out a rager patrol
>0/5
???
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give me the obscure infos about the skitarii class, I feel like am missing a lot
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Is this shit already dead? I can't even find teams to assist for the frame.
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>>583327824
Most people probably grinded out the event the first couple days after the update. I've also been struggling to find people to unlock spillway.
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>>583327824
Take the L and go down to damnation, yeah i know the game sucks if you're not on at least HISTG but it's just 3 missions
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>>583327748
I wouldn't exactly call it obscure but going down this line and just pinging a cunt every few seconds nets you a bucketload of constant toughness regen, TDR and damage, and the skull itself arguably gives you more value for your capacitance than using abilities
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>>583307127
Helldivers in my experience has a much more toxic community in general than darktide, although friendly fire probably excaberates it
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>>583328506
I'll try that alongside vomiting toughness for my fleshbags
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Sisters getting 4 personality options is cool and since they're all female it just means the characters have more diversity range instead of it just being 2 genders that share 80% of the same lines
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>>583277005
>scum's shirtless cosmetics are all handmade
Because there is practically nothing there to handmake. Most of them are like 1 armor plate or a strap.
They aren't doing that for the sister armor because it is a pain to do.
Also there will be no boob armor because swedes are faggots
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>>583328782
>characters have more diversity range
Lmao, no.
Also this shit will just be 4 flavors of female zealot.
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>>583328782
One of Sister's voice actors better be Emma Gregory AKA Minthara.
She's already done audio books for a bunch of Sisters of Battle novels. She's perfect.
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>>583248805
Another gold toughness supplier and maybe the ability to cure wounds
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>>583329204
futa
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>>583329296
Sister will provide temp health to the team
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Sister will provide light attack spam for the team
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They could increase the number of talents that give golden toughness now that it has been semi-nerfed
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Sister will provide milk for the team
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>>583316234
>Oh hey i'll finally figure out what Hive scums purple toxin does
>It's not in the guide
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>>583329832
Purple mode does more damage per hit and applies an armor negating effect like brittleness
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>>583329832
it's a unique form of brittleness that stacks with with other brittleness. But purple brittleness only goes up to 37.5% instead of 40%
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>>583329296
link mod pls
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>silent pox burster knocks me off the map
>when I'm getting picked up a plague ogryn charges in knocking me and the guy who rescued me off the map
haha
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>>583329715
Semen*
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So like, We defeated a Daemon Kul'garod. Does this mean we will become saints? I am surprised with all the shit we have done we don't get more praise.
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Any tips for dealing with being raped by gunners as cruncher melee focused ogryn?
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>>583331994
Get to them faster
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>>583331976
No.
You are a reject shitter until the end of time.
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>>583331994
Shoot them with your gun :)
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>>583331994
feed them a rock or a bullet.
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>>583331994
which ogryn gun are you even using
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>>583334764
I was using the Thugshot, but usually use Rumbler.
>>583333982
>>583334265
It's mainly that if there are more than 1 and they are spread apart it takes me much longer to kill them.
For some reason the Vet and Psyker in my team weren't doing anything to them... in Havoc.
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>>583331976
>defeated
Didn't we just defeat its host or something? We didn't actually banish it like Saint Messelina supposedly did.
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>>583294774
Bro, how could just doxx Salcan like that? Not cool.
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>>583300371
>Zealots can heal eachother now for what it's worth
They can't though?
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>>583335545
the healing triggers off unkillable status, chorus grants people unkillable status
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>>583336358
you can't have both healing and ability trigger on unkillable
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>>583312958
damnation spillway is more intense than some other maps on auric, but it's aight
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>>583336635
>While channeling, Allies in Coherency have Stun Immunity and Unkillable
>In addition, while Unkillable, you heal based on the Damage you deal up to a maximum of 25% Max Health.
As long as zealot A is channeling, zealot B can heal, and vice versa, assuming both have Holy Revenant.
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>>583336635
Did you miss the "each other" part? You need to have several zealots in the team for it to be possible.
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nigga name dickot :skull:
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>>583336957
couldn't be me
I'm "DICK GOD"
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time for some lazy sunday snorevocs..
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>>583337526
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>>583336358
>>583336792
Well shit. That's pretty neat.
Though this feels like something the devs will remove in a future patch when they discover it.
Feels like an obvious side-effect that shouldn't be happening.
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>>583337867
Considering how little you heal, and that it requires multiple chorus zealots with a specific talent that all run health builds, that seems too niche to even be good in the first place, unintended as it may be.
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Is there some new CDR bug? I noticed when using chorus or nuncio they sometimes have extremely low cd and i can literally place 2 nuncios at the same time or use chorus 3 times in a row.
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>>583338001
True but at the same time it being removed makes sense since the main difficulty about Darktide's gameplay currently comes from the finite amount of health any mission has, theoretically.
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>>583338081
Yes.
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>>583338081
Yeah there is a bug.
I've been able to get off like 2 VoCs on my vet sometimes.
I don't use mods so at first I chalked it up to just weird server-client side nonsense due to possible connection issues.
But then it just kept happening. If you have VoC you can abuse this to give you and the team like 150 gold toughness.
Though I am not 100% sure how to fully replicate the bug. But when it does happen for me is if there is lot of shit on screen giving me lag, which might happen easier for me because my PC is a potato.
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>>583338081
>>583338262
Yes, I can confirm this. I've been able to use chorus multiple times back to back sometimes, during my havoc climb. It gets the full effects; enemies stagger, teammates receive gold toughness, so it's a bug in the code, not just desync or lag.
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>>583338949
Makes sense. But I wonder if lag has something to do with it since the bug seems to happen the most when there is lot of stuff on screen loading the computer.
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>>583339530
Seems more likely that it's fatshark servers fucking eating shit, than your client doing it, because the server is helicopter parent levels of authoritative. If it doesn't happen on server-side simulation, you aren't allowed to do it.
Which still makes sense that it happens during extreme enemy density because the servers are fucking dogshit. I wasn't even able to play on HK servers this week without getting literal several seconds of latency and the game being too buggy to even let me rejoin. The fix was using a fucking proxy to HK and connecting from there, and the connection was suddenly much better (even at marginally higher latency than "normal").
Imagine every hand rubbing stereotype. Fatshark does exactly that, including cutting every possible corner on server architecture and quality.
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Best melee weapon other than power sword for veteran in havoc? Combat knife?
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*spams light attacks*
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>>583341865
*mogs you*
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The chainsword has 20% movespeed that you can just spam. How much movespeed can you get that's essentially readily available to you without much setup or is a fleeting stack you need to keep up?
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>>583341950
sister light attacks will beat it.
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If we did get genestealers, they would probably be helping us fight chaos. Especially with even more daemons coming maybe
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>>583341739
Power falchion and dueling sword
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>>583341739
I'd assume that or the shovel, and it probably comes down to preference.
Don't know if you can hit any real breakpoints or if you're spamming to apply bleed on the horde.
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>>583342001
>AIDS will surely help us against cancer
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>>583341950
I concede.
Hate those guys. I would often just drop a frag to not deal with them.
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>>583341739
Shovel is good for keeping enemies off your ass. Dueling sword is good because it deals good damage, and the parry provides safety.
>>583342179
>spamming to apply bleed on the horde.
This isn't a thing. The bleed talent is useless dogshit and gets truly abysmal numbers, literal waste of a point with anything that isn't the combat knife, and it's even kinda bad on the knife anyway. Any justifications for the talent work backwards from the incorrect assumption that it's worth the skill point in the first place.
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>>583342001
t. Von Valancius the Iconoclown
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>>583342001
I see you're a third arm of culture as well
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>jetpack is a GRIMNIIIR reskin
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>>583343383
Novitiates can't use jump packs
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>>583343383
Nah that's lost technology
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>>583341739
Devils claw and shock maul, depending on whether you prefer immunity to ragers or capability to deal with crushers
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>>583342001
>they would probably be helping us fight chaos.
They wouldn't. This was seen on Vigilus.
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>>583342445
>The bleed talent is useless dogshit and gets truly abysmal numbers
It's only good for horde clear IF you use skullcrusher on top of the bleed talent, skullcrusher applies to bleed as well. But even then it is ass and better not to use it.
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>>583344707
Yeah it's marginally acceptable in edge cases, but those edge cases usually involve rather bad weapons, and havoc has far more brutally punishing bullshit you have to account for that you'd be silly to splash a random point in a talent that barely does anything, much worse yet, use a weapon that doesn't actually work all that well.

That being said, I also found it adequate for horde clear in auric, where vet is obviously forced to melee a lot more due to a lack of actual teammates. Shovel and dueling sword use it reasonably well, the former for Skullcrusher, the latter just for improving horde clear slightly.
It's obviously griefing if you use it as an excuse to skip Field Improv, although its usefulness is also debatable in auric because, again, you won't have teammates, and they likely won't use it correctly, or benefit from it at all.
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>>583344027
Sure they can
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>>583341950
>>583341739
I like tac axe on any class that gets it partly because you can stagger these fuckers pretty quickly and open them up just by spamming the special

I've been running tacaxe on my exe stance hunter shotgun vet and it seems to work well, gives good mobility and good melee self defense against basically every enemy type
>>
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>>583336792
>>583336796
that seems like something that would work well in a cooperative team game. darktide is not a cooperative team game unfortunately.
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>>583345050
Tacaxe overall is slept on desu
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>>583328909
I don't know how you're not getting this.
other armor: shaped like male because fatshark pays someone to model something for a male character and then lazily reshapes it once they receive it to barely imply the shape of a female body
sister armor: will be sent off to the modelers with the request that it be made to fit a female body, and will be accompanied by GW sister models
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>>583346514
Only on scum and arbitrator. It's adequately rated on other classes, because it underperforms against armor. This isn't a
>CRUSHERS could be here
because maulers have carapace heads, how do you plan on dealing with half a dozen of those after blowing all your kraks on bulwarks and crushers?
Although it might be slightly better on vet nowadays, since accessing the rending talents has become a bit easier.
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>>583345050
I don't get it. They die to 1-2 hits from most weapons after the nerf, what "opening up" are you even talking about? They die before it can happen.
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>>583344707
I never put any thought to it but you just explained why it works well with dclaw: strength from rampage and skullcrusher should be good for bleed.
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>>583347743
are you pretending to be retarded? yes they die easily if you are flanking them but when there's 5 of them in your face you have to fight them through the shield
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>>583346875
it can kill auric carapace just fine on both vet and zealot if you stack crit and light spam into heads dunno about h40
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>>583348146
>when there's 5 of them in your face
NTA but you just described the exact use case for the power sword and Sunder, and another reason why weapons that aren't power sword are meme-tier.
>>583348223
"Just fine" doesn't cut it when other weapons do it twice as fast and effortlessly deal with larger amounts of those enemies. Plus, I don't consider whacking 6 maulers for nearly a minute to be "just fine" even in auric, especially since that demands you use the single target combo and are now not dealing with the surrounding trash trickling in.
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>>583348341
he was specifically asking about a weapon besides power sword

yes power sword is the strongest vet melee weapon by far, water is wet. I use it on most vet builds but if the ranged weapon is slow you can use knife or tacaxe as a decent backup melee option (not your primary).
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>>583346823
>will be sent with a request
They will just request
>"hey, make us this armor so it fits this body type B thing"
And leave it at that. You are genuinely a gullible retard when you think the studios they contract or their own studio won't cut corners or do the laziest shit imaginable.
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>>583348341
>don't consider whacking 6 maulers for nearly a minute to be "just fine" even in auric,
on vet you don't exactly have anything that can do better, besides the power sword.
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>>583348601
they always had the previous armors initially male shaped because reshaping from a female model would prove more difficult
that issue goes away with sister of battle
ur dumb
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>>583348601
they will make what they need to make to sell product. SoB lives or dies by the coomer aesthetic and there is no male baseline design to lazily extend like on the other human classes. they will have to commission a completely fresh model and it will be female.
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>>583348489
>he was specifically asking about a weapon besides power sword
No yeah I get that. The overall difference in performance is just unfortunately so fucking large.
>if the ranged weapon is slow you can use knife or tacaxe
Still wondering about tacaxe performance with rending talents. I'd much rather use a knife because the sprint heavy attack is so much faster than anything else. And even then, dueling sword has adequate move speed, even if the attack-slide movetech is extremely weak and unreliable. The added safety from the parry has its own value, especially against havoc daemonhosts (sand rituals, etc).
>>583348634
Well the dueling sword head stab deals pretty good DPS and it's an overall better weapon, it just has noticeably worse horde DPS.
I'd argue not being able to kill or at least control groups of maulers good is a bit of a deal breaker.
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>>583348789
duelling sword and knife are better for pure melee dps perhaps but if I bring tacaxe it's usually as a backup weapon and it just feels better to use in protecting yourself. I think it's the combination of adequate single target with adequate horde clear/cc and very good mobility that makes it work. knife and DS fall apart in precisely the situations that require you to pull out a melee weapon though DS does at least have parry to delete packs of ragers
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hmmm what vet weapon should i use?
should i use the light attack spam weapon1 or the light attack spam weapon2.... hmmmmmm...
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>>583349898
tacaxe you can do heavy-light chain into poxxers it saves clicks and does comparable dps with brutal momentum with much better cc if it manages to cleave
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>>583348747
>SoB lives or dies by the coomer aesthetic
I thought sisters were supposed to be popular and didn't need any coomer shit though?
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>>583350739
they are popular BECAUSE they are hot
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>>583350794
No, not really.
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>>583350842
yes really
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>>583350739
I don't know what you are referring to since that was my first post in that reply chain

SoB are the designated coomer faction and borderline a masochistic slaaneshi pleasure cult
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>>583350327
You know that the person you're responding to is just ratjeet pretending to be light attack retard, right?
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>>583350842
there is not a single person alive who is thinking to themselves
>yeah, I want sister of battle
>but make her fucking ugly and shaped like a man
the people who want that won't pay for her and don't know what darktide is
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>>583351123
>there is not a single person alive who is thinking to themselves
>>yeah, I want sister of battle
>>but make her fucking ugly and shaped like a man
Except all the people who actually made sisters of battle and, the people bought sisters of battle for the tabletop game.
Pic related is what modern sisters look like and what GW will tell fartshart to make.
Enjoy your crossdressing men with barrel torsos.
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>>583351123
to be fair there are probably numerous out of the closet transsexuals who think like that.

the hot woman thing is more for latent troons
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huntsman shotgun is pretty bad
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>>583351541
>Except all the people who actually made sisters of battle
producers, not consumers
>the people bought sisters of battle for the tabletop game
not a single one of these exists
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>>583351689
It seems to be pretty good on vet, and sub-par to mediocre on everyone else. It has its moments. Slug combat shotgun outshines it. Yes I know combat shotguns suck when you fire buckshot, don't fire buckshot.
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recon still boring
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What do you think about my very canon rightmost skill tree idea? Press F to transform.
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>>583352592
The middle is, of course, the token self buff ability that takes absolutely no effort to implement. You just start glowing with faith miracles and shit. Since fatshark pisses themselves at the idea of gold toughness doing anything, it'd probably just supply a bit of self toughness or whatever and be the worst ability available because it's just another copy of castigator stance.
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>>583351804
nah its shit on veteran too
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>>583351721
>not a single one of these exists
Well that's just blatantly wrong >>583285884
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>>583353074
I've seen vets get abnormally big numbers with it in auric. By that metric it can't be shit.
>inb4 everything is viable in auric
Not everything can pull numbers that big on its own. If you think otherwise, I dare you to try this with the braced or vigilant autoguns.
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>>583353117
that is an AI generated image
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>>583353276
Kek
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I want that mechanicus halberd for the skitarii. Nothing else matters.
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they should make it so SoB can call it the emperor himself to fight for a couple seconds.
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>>583343383
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>>583353381
sorry they know we'd love that so that's verboten
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>>583353381
isn't it for techpriests only?
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>>583353551
Hadron could let us "borrow" hers.
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she would never do that
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>>583353709
hadron lets me borrow her strap-on so i can put it on my servitor
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>>583353927
>>583353927
>>583353927
>>583353927
>>583353927
nu
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>>583353191
the only reason veteran could pull big numbers with it is that everyone is running this meme shotgun and can't do shit
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>>583354221
Why are you being disingenuous?
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>>583354258
Why are you?
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>>583290665
The guard are the main characters so it’s whatever and Ecclesiarchy are yet to be seen
>>583329132
True
>>583329204
That game sucked
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>>583342001
They’re just as likely to stand by and watch us take each other out. Moreso even. That’s not happening.
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>>583361212
Zealots already represent the Ecclesiairchy, and Novitiate will be the next, unless you're trying to imply Zealots represent some other Imperial religious institution.
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>>583353775
don’t be weird and gross
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>>583222539
>Skitarii Alpha Primus are specifically shit Fatshark was allowed to come up with and "homebrew"
Stop saying this Alpha Primus were already a thing before Fatshark put them in the game
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>>583337526
>>583336796
>>583329832
>>583343383
Seggs is needed
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>>583328782
that sounds like wishful thinking on your part
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>>583331976
we didn’t do that no
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>>583331975
>>583329305
Shut up
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>>583350739
You thought wrong
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>>583353426
they can’t even do that otherwise
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>>583361413
Zealots are not official members but yes they are our representative
>Novitiates will be next
Still to be decided



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