RIP Nate Higgers Edition>Blizzard’s new version of World of Warcraft, based on its original 2004 release. Currently in beta, it will feature more than 1,000 new quests, nine new dungeons, new race/class combinations including Undead Paladins and Dwarf Shamans, and more. Level 60 will remain the maximum level cap forever.>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app>Patch Noteshttps://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-september-24/2360696>When is it being released?November 4thName reservations on October 27th.>Beta GuildsType /who g-"Guild name" to see who's online, whisper anyone for an invite, or ask in thread.<wowfg> - PvP, Alliance (EU)<Little Space> - PvP, Alliance (NA)<Lemon Party> - PvE, Alliance (NA)>Last Thread>>583229590
>>583244112Buddy, it's going to be even worse than an Indiana Jones reference.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMhpHgqIQdQ
Hol up since when do all races get DIFFERENT racials if theyre a spriest wtf?
wowfg bliz communityprobably a bad ideahttps://blizzard.com/invite/J993LNFVa3
>>583246465Nate Higger wasn't a goylem faggot, don't sully his memory
my femhuman priest only fucks shota, blacks, orcs, taurens, trolls, worgen, wolfs, horses, ogres, gnolls, demons
>>583246554Why did you post a trailer for Hearthstone?
>>583246465Rest in power Nate Higgers
First for anal sex with tauren women
>>583246613thumbnail looked like an aborted fetusim spending too much time on /b/
Classic Pop UpdateAnni lost 26k playersMop lost 5k playersEra remains the samehttps://ironforge.pro/population/classic/
Does the night elf movespeed racial stack with other forms of movement speed?>cat form talent>traveler form>aqua form>movespeed boot enchants>sprint>cheetahetc...
anyone has that fancomic of that orc player scolding sylvannas for being retarded?
my skelf only fucks white human men
>>583246615Because that's what Uldum in Forever is going to be. They need to explain Brann's absence from the archaeologists in Silithus somehow.
>>583246664Retoilet status?
First for buff tauren racials.
>>583246762But that's a different game
>>583246676no
>>583246664>Era is on pace to have more players than Mop
I can't decide between hunter or warrior
shaman profs>skin + lw>mining + bs>herb + alchwat choose
>>583246861same........
>>583246819well that's fucking stupid
no Shagu / PfQuest for forever? I want an ingame object location database
>>583246835>Olympus has more players than MoP
>>583246835mop has always had some of the deadest private serverspopulation seems to generally bevanilla > wotlk > tbc > cata >= mop
>>583246808They're making Hearthstone lore canon in Forever.
>>583246861I want to play hunter...but I know fucking everyone is playing hunter
>>583246936
>>583246963Source?
which class that you played was the least suffering to level as
Im making a skelf bimbo slut with short ears
>>583247170Post her when you#re done
>>583247170>short ears
cant decide between>warrior>spriest>warlock
>>583247128Hunter > Priest > Paladin > Warlock > Shaman > Rogue > Druid
>>583246613rough day for undead
Friendly reminder AMERICHADS created the Internet and everyone else on it is a guest. Learn your place and respect your betters euromongs.
>>583247293Paladin nr3 when its nr1 for everything what the fuck did you do wrong
I FUCKING HATE 1K NEEDLES
>>583247221i hate vulpera but this doesnt look that bad desu
>shadow meld doesnt break combat>movespeed is worse than minor speed enchant and doesn't stack>wisp form only works when dead>10% crit has the most drop off in usefullness as players gearNE basically just has 1% dodge. What a bullshit set of racials
>>583246664part of me is tempted to roll on a dead server while I wait for november, theres a weirdly comfy feeling to it sometimes
>>583246918would be too OP, movement speed is always the best stat
>>583247397Hunter and priest were just easier. Maybe I'd switch priest and paladin, but hunter is still the king of leveling.
>>583247543That i agree with
Should I use curseforge for questie?
>>583247412skill issue
I am still reporting every inappropriate name I see
>>583247708>>583247582
tarren mill comfy
Felwood qt getting plapped by a powerful Cock Tiran...
>>583247708>mfw a chud with a mildly inappropriate name can't stop himself from talking about American politics in General
>>583247708I did this yesterday to an Ivan Jaggenoff
>>583247475>shadow meld doesnt break combatYou have any clue how broken that would make them?
I like some of the added quests, like after killing the goblin supervisor in Mulgore you have to find the rest of his files that hint at their stuff in the Barrens and Stonetalon.
>>583247041Forsaken Paladins have been in Hearthstone since 2019
>>583246664what about retail?wtf is era?
rogue and sham were two classes i never could get into
>>583247771Looks like a slum. They should add a 300yd no-campfire radius around all towns.
>>583247819That's not a source>>583247825Era is the permanent vanilla retirement home for actual Classic Andy's.
Chuds wonnedTurtle troons lostRussians and Chink bitcoin botfarms lostRedditors lostDoomjeets in shamblesChuds won!
>>583247708I reported a charlie kirk related name last week and got them banned.
Why is he, the descendant of Highborne, black?Highborne / High Elves are either pale, or in Skyborne's case, light blue is a skin colour.
>>583245926You got some classic answers but here's the forever answer.Exact numbers differ based on level (and what ranks your spells have) and sp, but here's how things stand at level 24 with 60 spell power (assuming wand spec, imp mind flay)Holy fire - 44 dps, 1.6 dpm (damage per mana)Devouring plague - 117 dps (dot dps is calculated with 1.5s gcd, not duration of the dot), 0.82 dpmMind blast - 88 dps, 1.2 dpmMind flay - 87 dps, 5.8 dpmSWP - 160 dps, 2.5 dpmGravestone scepter - 36 dpsHoly fire is hardly better than wanding.Devouring plague ooms you.Mind flay rivals mind blast when it comes to dps while being 4x more mana efficient
need yall to suck and tug at my horizontally progressing alterac sausage until it moonfires morning glory dew all over ur faces
>having to see this absolute faglord in the clientgood god. is there a dalamud thing for wow?
What the fuck is Rolling with the Punches?
>>583247926This is not a Felwood hoofie but she can get GOATed regardless.
>>583247981mehhhhhhh
>>583247990streamers causing your cortisol to spike is so funny bro how do you live like this
>>583247990soda based desu
>>583247926>>583248007yeah where's skelf and satyr slopanon?
Skills arent being added automatically to my hotbars
>>583247936black are alright when they don't have outlet nose, are fat or real
>>583247990least he didnt buy gold I guess
>>583247990Would you prefer a fat shitskin instead of a vvhite man?
>>583248004>sanctifiedthat's SoD gear
Someone asked me if I could sign their guild chart. LMAO no I don't want to be part of your shitty guild
>>583248050>streamersnot all of them>>583248052>the eternal manbaby>basedyeah no>>583248140i prefer a soifacing literal who like in the previous week
>>583248202>dear diary
>>583248052Soda is a washed up crybaby. Germanicus owned his retard ass.
>>583248217TBC weapons are so fucking ugly
>>583248238Yeah nah I shan't signing it with anything
are we prepared for the upcoming Tank/Healer shortages because of the Dungeon XP changes in Forever?
Not playing until Draenei are added
I want to do HoT but everyone who wants to do it is only like level 13...
Are there new level 30 item sets available like at level 20?
>>583248394Of course I am, I'm a tank.
>>583248394it seems normal to me
>>583248480https://www.icy-veins.com/wow-forever/news/wow-forever-is-turning-scarlet-monastery-junk-loot-into-real-gear/
>>583248583so are there no new item sets? I have the Defias set on currently
TrollWarriorBig 2H Axe
Bros can I be honest with you? I wanna go balls deep inside of pic related.
Just healed my first dungeon :)
ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS GENERAL.ALEXENSUAL GAVE US WOW FOREVER.https://www.twitch.tv/alexensual
>>583248786Locked in. Dialed. Dialed and locked in.
>>583248747you'd have to remove her pants first
>>583248394>tank/healer shortagesThose are normal though
>>583248786im scared
10% is pretty fucking low for a clearcast proc that can only proc from the periodic damage of a single spell.
>priests lobbying for power word shield spam gameplay on their 'cord>they have direct communication with devs
I want a MAIL wearing RANGED
>>583248786we are all so proud of you
>>583248786Cool. Any issues? I did two so far, one was easy, the other was a bit stressful
>>583248909thats better than them lobbying to remove power infusion like they were before, i hate holy fags so much its unreal
curse of weakness is a vibe
>>583248951...anon
debating whether I should even bother setting up the wow forever private server or not spoil myself for release
>>583247936140fps
>>583248882and holy nova ain't exactly the best spell, either
>>583249016I cant help but to notice there is barely any push back
>>583248821Heck yeah >:]
>>583249041Sorry i meantI want a PLATE wearing RANGED class
>>583249167because they are missing if you reduce their damage to 0
>>583249016you better not be complaining this game is too easy you fucking pussy
https://streamable.com/cwdp71>TFW you are a bipolar manlet and play wowWill he stream long enough for us to get this kino again?
>>583247170guess her type
>warrior>slow rage>no instant castswhy is this still fun?
>>583248856You can do it!!!
>>583249318she's a shaman so orcs
>>583249013they still want to remove pi
>>583249343It's about... the journey.
>>583248886
>>583249391its slower than a paladini dont have healsbut its just fun?
>>583249343Charging is objectively fun
>>583249318short bald men :)
>>583249016just realized, agony is not a curse herenice
>>583248980Tyty :3
>>583249479yea it's op as fuck
>>583249365i'd only agree if they made it baseline, but everyone would piss themselves in pvp to a self PI shadowpriest
>>583248394I was thinking of playing a healer, but it somehow only just occurred to me that I'll only be in dungeons for about 2% of the time realistically, thanks to the xp changes.Shadow Priest seems kind of shit / unfun, I don't want to spend 98% of my time as that. Hmm...There really isn't actually much incentive to play a healer now, is there?
paladins really think they're good
>>583248886I just have everything on max
>>583249438yes
some of these quests have such miserably low drop rates
>>583249365What's wrong with PI?
>>583249016Qrd? Why are they nott doing any damage
>>583246664SoD must have 0 players kek
>>583249556for leveling, you'd just go shadow and heal in dungeons for quests. you don't need to be talented for healing for low level content. Allegedly smite is pretty strong right now though.
>>583248747What race is this meant to be?
>>583249412>be me>maxxed everything >still get 240fps at 2k
>>583249624Thats why you group but retards dont understand grouping is better for quest items
>still no beta invitefuck you blizzard I'm playing deadcock now
>>583248909I hope they spite them and make Discipline the melee, D&D cleric spec it was supposed to be.
>>583248394>are we prepared for the upcoming Tank/Healer shortages because of the Dungeon XP changes in Forever?No because I'm healing dungeons so I dont have to worry about anything
>>583248101except soda is unironically one of the most prolific gold buyers in the entire world. The only people buying more gold than him are arab oil princes paying for GDKPs on multiple character that they got mage boosted. He bought thousands of dollars of gold in classic in every phase, and probably 10,000+ dollars worth of gold in naxx when he bought all naxx gear and atiesh. Then he bought thousands of dollars of gold in TBC. Then he bought tens of thousands of dollars worth of gold in OnlyFangs1. It's absolutely insane that he has never been punished for any of this, and is now a blizzard approved streamer.
>>583249647they think its boring as a capstone talent, and unironically think dps wont want it because you cant snapshot now and warcraftlogs will give the dmg gained from PI to the priest
>>5832496672300
>>583248998I also did two. First one was mostly simple with only a few chaotic moments, but no one died. In the second run, I think our tank got a bit over confident because he pulled the entire room and I couldn't out heal the damage he was taking.. we all died :0.. but after that the rest of the run was smooth!
>>583249647People use it for degenerate playstyle but instead of letting people do what they want with their tools they'd rather let nobody have fun.
>kino
>>583249662curse of weakness is a flat damage reductionthe damage reduction is more than the damage the kobolds dealthus they do no damage
>>583249820it is a shit capstone, thoughlots of the 31 pters are
does anyone have the image of the dwarf calling a bloodelf a jobless incel and that horde = unemployed anathema something
>>583249805he did get punished and it was just for the first onlyfangs
>>583249851Lmao is that for all mobs at that level?
>>583249859home... mon
>>583249910no, but I have this
>>583249805nah I just meant in the beta, he said he wasnt taking handouts even gear n shit. That was before the tournament was announced though so dunno if he stuck to it.But yeah he has admitted to buying gold a bunch before, theyre all shit.
>>583248909Power Word: Shield no longer negating rage gen is a good thing.It was really, really stupid that using a core healer ability was actually the stupidest thing you could ever do, and would piss tanks off to no end.Looking forwards to it!
darksydephil said paladins are going to kill the game.
We love Soda and hate Chudmongold around here
So Warriors are the best 1v1 class since they can pop Shield Wall, Recklessness, and Retaliation all at the same time?
>>583249016https://old.reddit.com/r/wowforever/comments/1ww2crt/prot_pally_demolishing_9_mobs_same_level/even if lock chain pulls with multidot affli + hp leech i doubt he can keep up with that bs palas do, i guess we'll see, maybe pet tanking gets better at higher levels
>>583250019cringebut i'm glad you're seething
>>583249259he is tall
>>583249687she is the daughter of vancleef
me when I gank an olympus member 10 levels lower than me
>>583249847Comfy + cozy
>>583249981yes mon
>>583249647PI ruins the parsebrain's funremember when chinks made pay to win raids and fed multiple PIs to a single guy so he could just get ez rank 1s?
It’s crazy how much you stop giving a shit about this game once you’re having sex. Almost as if it’s all a huge cope for being a virgin.
>>583250019Chuds are based
>>583250019We hate everyone around here, especially if theyre brown.
>>583250019I hate all WoW streamers. I can't think of a single one who isn't a moron, insufferable, or both.
>>583250156hopefully they give barrier to disc priest as the capstone talent
>>583250028BiS farmed twinkNobody caresNo Bo Dy cares about this
>>583250019both /wowcg/ and /wowg/ hated them for years.we only love Alexensual.you are just dumb tourists.
>>583250167well the sex can't be that good if you're still posting here
>>583250230disc should get atonement healing but remove all their absorbs except for pws (and make it really weak)
This is how Alliance shaman will look in Forever.No competition, they will be begged to drop THE totem.
>>583246835If Blizzard actually applied their ban of RMT and GDKP on era I would play there right now.
>>583250019>we love soda>we
What's the Alliance Priest race of choice? I'm stumped between Gnome and Human, I like both aesthetically too. Mostly planning on healing.Human:>+Spirit is always great>the Priest racial that lets you remove Weakened Soul is very cool (but also very niche)>the other priest racial looks shit, and the other racials aren't too relevantGnomes:>Eureka is still very good>higher mana pool>their priest racial is less situational, and just good (put on a target, if they get damaged a lot they automatically get healed + shielded)>other Priest racial is also fantastic (AoE confuse)Nelf:>+10% Crit active racial is OK>movement speed is always nice, Priests have no extra mobility otherwise>kind of shit Priest racialsDwarf:>LOL
>>583249694 i have i think i7 12700k or something like that, and 3070ti, with those settings getting 110fps in barrens. with everything max its more like 60-70. which is still fine but ye
>>583250462now do horde pls
>>583250462why do people overlook shadowmeld? it's massive in pvp and in pve when targeted by boss abilities
>>583250387Disc shouldn't heal.
Peak soulhttps://x.com/jonzzy/status/2106362631585960189/video/1?s=61
>>583250462What do you mean by "Priest racial"?
>>583246835>Tell people for YEARS that moo'poop is shit and only enjoyed by 4chan pedos>Turns out to be trueZAMN!!
>>583250027Just cc them?
Any horde bros on the pvp server wanna throw a [Recipe: Heavy Crocolisk Stew] on the neutral ah?I'll buy it for 5g
>All 140 campfire recipes are in>Except the one profession i picked up (Spinning Wheel for Tailoring)-_-
>>583247926Nightelf women won!
Be real with me how much copium I'm huffing thinking shaman will be given one last rework and made a viable tank on release?Don't hold back punches. Be real with me.
why does only priest get special class racials?
tb so packed lol
>>583248578Retail players lack the attention span to type hello in chat
>>583250878everyone would only play paladin otherwise
>>583250520UD:>the best DPS race remains the best for Priest>their Priest racial gives you a lot of mana regen, which is very, very welcomeTroll:>health regen racials aren't very relevant as a healer>Berserking is obviously good>but the Priest racial abilities seem whateverUndead remains king like it does for most classes I guess>>583250578I don't know, but I do often forget it exists for some reason.>>583250718Each race gets unique abilities if you are a Priest.https://mobalytics.gg/wow-forever/guides/priest-class-overview#8-priest-racial-abilities-4
>>583250462Gnome and Drawf is probably the most OP for PVP but will most likely get nerfed soon. NE is best for lvling because of Starshards. And horde classes? Well you can tell the devs don't play horde...
>>583250718Priests have two special racial priest spells. It's a bit hidden>>583250462I'm conflicted myself. For the beta I am gnome but not sure if I won't play human on release. I like gnomes but because they're so small you'll see less of your character
>>583250885names look so fucking ugly hide them
>>583250885woah like 20 people
>>583251053bro your wpvp?
>>583250462They really should've made Starshards deal holy/arcane damage so it scales with your talents.
>>583250986>but the Priest racial abilities seem whatevershadowguard is crazy good for pvp
>>583250462Nelf:>Shadowmeld Mind Control people off a cliff
>>583250462>Dwarf:>>LOLHey, their 2 second root that only works on Humanoids could come in clutch.
>>583250986thank u
>>583250986>>583251024Well fuck me, now I want to roll a priest
So is this more similar to classic or retail in things like difficulty? Then again I have no idea what retail is even like now.
Every class should get their own racial
>>583250462dwarf is still bis pvp, nelf is also up there, gnomes ok
>>583251294it's easy like classic
>>583250986>Undead remains king like it does for most classes I guessHELL YEAH undeads should be hunter too IMO
ngl every single person, without exception, from an olympus guild that I've interacted with has been a moronit's even worse when you realize that these people are all 30+ grown men too
>>583251150Yeah them and Dwarves probably are actually pretty good for PvP, but I've nearly entirely just got a PvE mindset.
>>583251294it's slow paced like classic wow so far
>>583251294It's not a single player experience. Almost everything is tuned for grouping up
>>583250885
how are fire mages lookin
>>583251383You just found out the reason why no one wants asmon and his fans in the game
>don't like the New Skyelf zone>decide to see what RestXP is like so I can speed run it>the moment i decide to do my own thing, I'm immediately off the path and it feels stupid to just continue the guide from where I left offI really don't get why anyone would use these.
>>583251551best dps in the game
Confirmation has been obtained regarding the involuntary severance of Tom Ellis’s employment. Proprietary insider knowledge resides with me. Announcement is deliberately eschewed; the strategy is one of passive attenuation through temporal dissipation. An exit characterized by silence and discretion. Authoritarian measures have been enacted to suppress unhinged employee social-media expression. Emergency pedagogical interventions in public relations have been administered to the remaining cadre. Blizzard entertains no desire whatsoever that this launch should suffer catastrophic reputational impairment. The chuds have achieved victory.
racial Touch of the Grave, giving your spells and attacks a 10% chance to drain Health from the target, up to 5% of your maximum Health
XING SHIA TSU would like to enter lordaeron
>>583251383What's your ign? Do you have a bf already?
>>583250462I saw that someone did the math, and Gnome + Human are very, very comparable in healing, so it'd mostly just be personal preference (unless they nerf Eureka again).... actually, they did nerf Eureka again recently didn't they, maybe human is better now then.
>>583251383>says the avatarfag
when are they adding these druid forms
>One of the main reasons to go with Protection over Fury or Arms leveling now is that the damage is competitive from 16+ with the Revenge buffs and rage generation on Protection is much better than on the other 2 specializations. is this Real
>>583251674what's the lore reason for adding a dungeon inside undercity?
>>583251674I mentioned their women are pretty alright and my ex is Chinese (it's true) and one of them got really mad
On ziqo stream, someone talked about people getting banned for buying one (1) gold lol, glad blizzard is cracking those retards
>boosters mad they can't feed their family anymore because of dungeon xp nerfaaaahhhaahahahaha oh nonono
>>583251906they didnt need to nerf the exp when they made changes to mage to make it so you cant perma slow
>>583251294More like classic (which is not hard).Retail nowadays has two states: Absolutely AFK braindead shit, which is like 99% of the game, and genuinely challenging and difficult shit (the new game+++ for the remaining 1 %).Retail faggots are dishonest faggots most of the time and like to brag with the latter to illustrate why retail is "more difficult than classic" even though they don't play that.
>All 3 tank trees are rancid dogshitMan they have no idea what the fuck they are doing with tanks do they?Bosses are just not going to hit hard or require tanks to do jack shit if this is how tanks are going to be.
SHAMAN BROS CAN I JOIN YOU HOW ARE YOU DOIN
>>583251961cool story boostie
why would anyone ever play a healer when everyone will only ever do a dungeon one(1) time, for the quests, and beyond that never again because the xp is shit?They should at least make dual spec unlock at level 20 for healer classes, not 40.
>>583251294Forever feels like Classic if every class and specialization actually functioned. The time-to-level is similar (very similar) and normal activities are about as hard as they are in Classic - which is to say, not very hard unless you're underleveled or retarded. It feels nothing like Retail beyond the UI.
>>583251890you people are so low IQ you fall for the most obvious bait / jokes
Gnome or human warlock?
>>583252101you can heal more than fine even if you have 10 points in shadow
>>583252013I know of 6 tank trees in this gameLet me guess you don't even know shaman is going to be the best tank in the game until they finally see it and nerf it
>>583252187wrong
>>583252179human
>>583252187healer gear will not help you outside of dungeon though.
>>583252247why is she winking at someone else during sex?
>>583251906Boostings arguably still in.You just run someone through a dungeon blitzing the quests.Its xp wise 5+ lockouts worth of xp for a single run.
>>583252292what makes you think she's having sex? She's clearly washing some clothes on a washboard
People enjoy healing, I personally did all the dungeons and if you line up to get all the quests its definitely worth the single run. You don't need talents or anything.
>>583252286just roll need on both dps and heal gearit's the privilege of everyone being short on healers
>>583252296pre-reqs are gonna fuck with the boosting
>>583252247why do elves and humans love Trolls, Orcs and Tauren so much?
Locktober into NNN and Forever launch is going to go nuts
>>583252421yeah no one is gonna look at caster gear, they're all melee in my runs
Nelfie status?
>>583249016Nu-retoilet garbage
Clothies really are rare, maybe I should go priest after all.
Remember if you are grouped up with a Shaman who has Windfury Totem, don’t put a Poisons on your main hand weapon as these do not stack and you will lose significant DPS
>>583252238Shaman honestly can probably just tank at this point. Hell they can even keep windfury while rockbiter nowThe amount of DR in the prot trees are so minimal that even with Shaman getting zero they arent far behind.Main issue is they have zero way to get uncrittable and blizzard is 100% going to refuse to itemize it cucking you into wearing druid leather.
Odds: go be productive Evens: be a useless piece of shit and play wow all day
>>583252956Retard they stack now
>>583247936Highborne are not pale, they just look like Night Elves, see Dire Maul. Thalassian elves and the Shen'dorei (sky elves) are pale. Black skin is just gay representation shit they added in Shadowlands.
>>583252956that got changed they do stack
Do not forget what was taken from you
>>583252973have fun anon, its just a beta.
skyelves shouldve been nelf reskin so they can add high and blood elf later
>>583251294It's just classic but now less classes are bricks and questing is smoother with more dungeons at lower and mid levels.
>>583252901filled to the brim with strong Orc seed
>>583253052D A Y U M
>>583252973FRICK
>>583248394Unless you were boosting or spamming dungeons to avoid leveling in the world, almost no one ran dungeons more than twice. If you want gear from it, make your own groups.
me can not decided
>>583251854to show the forsaken can't even fix stuff on their own front lawn
>>583253103Theres also a comical amount of new quests.Wetlands had a crazy amount
>>583251383HSR players are literal third world golems who gamble on anime pictures.WoW blizzdrones are 1/100th as offensive as the average gacha mobileslop consumer./hsrg/ has CP and BLACKED posters unironically.
>>583253165do them all just take the fastest easiest solo leveller first then feed the alts with stuff and legacy
>>583250739I SAID SOMEONE SELL ME THIS FUCKING HORDE ONLY RECIPE THATS 20 SILVER FROM A FUCKING VENDOR REEEEEE
>>583253052Ugly hooved goat women who break the lore? Get that shit out of here I want 10 flavors of elves as god intended
>>583253256okay
>>583253165>using leveling guideholy cringe
having fun, having a blast
>>583253052Broken incoming, I'll laaaaaugh and laaaaaaugh.
>>583253196I don't even play HSR anymore, everyone quit during slophoreus, and the remaining people all quit during elation slop.I just like fofoI do still play genshin though
>>583253371NOOOOOOOOO STOP THAT!!!
>>583252397Every healing tree is worthless before level cap because everyone needs to be dps spec for open world questing
>>583253371ill check back in with you in 6 months :^)
>>583252247giwtwm
>>583253486You get spell power on healing gear and it's not even a lot less than pure spell power gear. My shaman is doing perfectly fine.
i didn't realize vampiric embrace has a 1 min CD nowspriest is fucking dead lmao
>>583253436kill yourself nigger, at least use your wow char if you wanna avatafag
has anyone here read pale fire, is it any good or just intellectual masturbation
Human females…
>>583253540>you mean product content doesn't last forever oh mein gott>unsubscribe untill new content
>>583253604Thats fine im just saying every healing spec is useless before 60 because you cant reliably level through healing
>I supposedly cant level reliably through healing>have zero problem in the open world as priest and get automatic invites to dungeons as holy priestlol
>>583250462PvE? It's literally whatever. Differences are so small that you shouldn't even pay attention to them.PvP?>HumanWill to survive is good. It would be extremely good if it was off GCD but it isn't. Perception is situational as always. Divine Grace is a decent panic heal. It loses to desperate prayer because panic heal for yourself is often more important than panic heals for others.Feedback does something. It's improved from classic since the mana cost was heavily cut, now it's worth casting.>DwarfStoneform is still good, as you lack poison removal as priest. Helps a fair amount against hunters, rogues. Bleeds will be a bit more prevalent in forever as well.Desperate Prayer is better than the human version as previously stated.Chastise does something. Honestly not much since you're probably slowed and within a second you're being hit again. But better than feedback.>Night elfShadowmeld. Well you can fear, run, drink, shadowmeld and get a little more mana in compared to others. Some situational uses.Elune's light. Just some healing throughput but it doesn't apply to shield and doesn't snapshot into renew. A little weakElune's grace. If timed right has the potential to be good, like causing a kidney or scatter shot miss. If wasted reduces damage a little. High skill required.Starshards. Decent damage for a healer.>GnomeEureka. Not particularly impactful. Escape artist. Priest isn't the best class for this as after it you're just running away on foot. On gcd. Ok when combined with fear.Contingency plan. This is the worst version of panic heals, as it can be easily wasted.Confounding flash. It's a war stomp that lasts 1s longer but breaks on damage. So it's alright. Honestly, no one them are bad. Surprisingly balanced.
decent?
>>583247708post full
they should make a spell like eviscerate but it actually does damage
>>583253904cant say without class/spec
Warlcoks and Mages should get a melee spec with the right items.
>>583251854It’s not inside Undercity, it’s in Lordaeron, above the Undercity.
>>583253989lock
>>583253904Wow they really sped up leveling
>>583253937its futa trash sadly
>>583253052This alien looks like she's from Jersey.
>>583254014yeah thats good
>>583253904people really use rested xp and still take 10 hours to get to 20 ngl people that use restedxp are just as much of a retard red flag as olympus'ers
>>583253937You don’t want to see it, she has an entire gnome stuck in her asshole.
>>583249859kino mon
>>583254120i can probably cut 45 mins to an hour off if i dont die at all and optimise a bit but i think its pretty good
>>583254120use it or not, the time to 20 going to be absolute ass on release with 800 people per mob on every layer for first 3 days
>>583253904
>>583254295i suspect that is with ppl summoning you around everywhere ?
>>583254378I would imagine the rules would have to be strict to avoid outside help.
Elwynn and Darkshore felt like they had twice as many quests
>>583254378>>583254406
>>583253874I've been using Divine Grace for the someone butt pulled the boss along with pats and I am OOM with pots still on CD heal. Feedback is relatively nice for duels against other casters, make them OOM quick.
>>583254238you're proly not going to get a 7-8 hour time to 20 on launch unless you somehow get to 6 incredibly fast right when the game gets up with zero hiccup, and then are ahead of everyone else.within 10 hours is pretty easy now though, considering how good the low lvl dungeons are for exp now, especially horde, where you have RFC and LoR.
>>583254295>>583254525how is that even possible?
>>583254049>>583254134Do it the face looks like someone I know
has anyone here successfully refunded after hundreds of hours in the beta?
>>583253874Contingency Plan does suckIf I put it on the tank, it's probably because he's getting obliterated by a boss or a stack of mobs anywayAnyone else is probably just gonna fall off
>>583254295Why is there even a hardcore 1-10 or 1-20 bracket? Who the fuck is dying in a speedrun and still submitting it?
>>583254559I forgot to add that Humans has a huge disadvantage in a racial that is utterly useless for priest. Sword Specialization.
>>583254637https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hbnpf95gyoA
which spec will be less RAPED by foreverdevs at 60ele or balance du
>>583254701death skips
>>583254680https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=4849193&tags=vicky_ren
>>583254749its following restedxp lmao>>583254120
>Bubblehearth allowed to fester until it became a core staple of the class's identity, devs could not get rid of it even if they wanted to>Bubblecannibalize immediately taken behind the barn and shotGlad the devs learned from their mistakes.
>>583254780there is simply a 0% chance that is worth it in a 1-20 speedrun
>>583254559Yeah for pve purposes divine grace easily wins over desperate prayer. Feedback used to cost 580 mana for the max rank (now 230), so it used to require 6 casts against you for it to actually drain more mana from the enemy than from you. The cheaper cost should help a lot now. Of course, it still doesn't scale with spell power unlike shadowguard which is a bit of a shame.
>>583254778ele shamans are laughed at by foreverdevs from 1 to 60
>>583254936>dying in a cave and respawning at the spirit healer is not worth itbro
>>583247819Forsaken Paladins have been in wow's lore since vanilla, retard.
>>583246835biggest problem of MoP is that the world is still the fucked up Cata version of Azeroth, it brings the whole game down
>>583247370Tim Berners-Lee is British
>>583248909how is this in any way bad. PWS is too weak currently.
Wow so this is the trad and lorefull writing of WoW Forever i has heard about? What is really the difference from Retail's World of Wokecraft?Your response Forevercels?
>>583251383The past few weeks I've fought quite a few of them. 1v1 they suck ass, hell even 2v1. Every single assmongler viewer is shit at the game.
>>583255296i dont read quest text or pay attention to rp
How am I supposed to know where to go for quests? any good general zone progression guide?
uuooooogh i'm touching the graave, witness me proc 7 whole times while leveling 1-10
>>583255248orc racials should be strong because orcs should be the most populous race on horde (i play tauren)
>>583255296Ruined...
>>583255413It feels way less than it should
>>583255372There's a questing zone section in the group finder you can use
>>583255372you get quests to go to the next zone new friend
is 2h enh fun??is it good??
>>583255413goodhorde deserve to have a useless fucking racial for oncenow get the orc racials fucking gutted
>>583255413That shit procs multiple times per mob for me. Blizzshart turned badlock on for you apparently.
Don't listen to >>583255421, he's homosexual and lustful for male orc ass.
>>5832554132% of your total damage. Not bad. Compare it to something like weapon spec which is 1% crit for all but humans.
>>583253540if i'm not having fun and a blast with wow in 6 months, i'll probably playing another thing, like an normal adult would do
>>583255413was way higher than that for me on priest, ive only seen paladins complain desu it might be a pala bug
>>583255421That's the thing, all you have to do is nerf the curse immunity racial and they'd still be strong.It's absurd that horde get 2 anti-warlock racials
>>583254962Counting ogcd you're definitely getting more than 6 on a mage.
>>583255523Not really, fun in pvp if you're into gacha games
>>583255523Much like ret pally you're gambling for windfury procs. When everything goes off you feel like a king. Most of the time you're just kiting and tapping things to death though.
>>583255413God forbid one out of your 4 broken racials isn't carrying you all the time.
SENDING FULL FRESH IN 5 BRUDDAS
>>583255720>Shaman >4/10The reason to play shaman is for the glam.
>>583253753Yea thats what happened to retail too retard, look at it now! People are going to get bored again and quit in droves and never return, youre just so fucking stupid you cant remember that this is the case.
>>583255525>now get the orc racials fucking guttedorcs will NEVER be nerfed since the devs consider them george floyd: the race
>>583255602Orcs are anti-lock, Humans are anti-rogue. It balances out tbqhf.
>>583255725>>583255726whys enh baddies sayin its op :(
>>583255720*wipe my ass with this post*
>>583247801That's how it's been forever tho
shaman get windfury at 28 and leave you in the dustAll enhance are 2h and the specs built around it its crazy strong at low levels right now.
>>583254778Official tierlist of GAPED, RAPED, HUMILIATED and EMASCULATED classes/specs>Roguedditor Sorry to truke you on this one, you are going to be dogshit and you have been lied to.>Huntard (BM)PvP players will drop a loud and mighty kvetch until this spec is dead>HolyProt PaladinAggrend fucking hates holyprot.>Shaman at largeAggrend hates it, Ion hates shaman being anything but shaman being a restocuck raidlogging class.>Fury/Arms warriorClassic trauma, also, you are good in retail rn.
Guys should I even bother rolling on pvp? It feels like a lot of the people on PVP are tryhards. Like they would turn off transmog and everything just to see if some retard is wearing goggles or not.
>>583255669>sheeps youNothing personal.You also need to actually play against the mage while it's up too. It's not like you'll go "oh my feedback is up so I'll just not fear so that he can hit me more into feedback".
help help help i can’t decide between priest and drood
>>583255413J-just you wait, it's gonna proc off consecrate! It's gonna be siiiick for AoE farms!!!
>>583255898Shammy is pretty strong in pvp and pve right now. Like I said it's mostly burst damage. If you don't mind it being a lottery class it's really run.
>>583255881Yeah, that's fine. You can be anti-lock with a racial that just removes all curses, and that's it.But it gives immunity to curses for 8s. And -15% magic damage taken. It's absurdly broken
how long untill these threads stabilize and the private trannies fuck off back to their troonholes and stop linking reddit posts all day
>>583256248i'm gonna give it a whirl
Playing a gnome warlock on pvp alliance is going to be the dark souls of race/class choices. People are going to call me a masochist for choosing to walk this road of bloody thorns.
WHere can horde learn swords? UC?
>>583256276never since those are posted by crybooms and they will always be here seething while raidlogging and buying gold on era
ngl kinda feels like the campfire shit completely died. Requires carrying too much shit in your limited inventory, and wasting crafting mats that you'd rather just use to level up your profession.
>>583256375thats right
>We’ve heard you about the bloat and LGBTQ content in WoW:Forever the Rainbow Lands! >we know you guys hate the insane horizontal gear and item bloat>we know nobody raids in wow forever because we forgot to entice people with rewards>we have learned from our mistakes>we will be going back…>World of Warcraft… Forever… Classic
>>583255126Leonid is a warrior and Zeliek is a death knight who involuntarily uses the light.
da big city mon
>>583256724>gon cash me foodstamps mon
>>583256781mon...
Give Shaman Wildhammer themed abilites/spells like Hammerang and letting us swap totems for Menhir's.
>>583233778>Sure it's not going to win a meme low level tournament, so why doesn't he just reroll?I would say streamers are under some blizzard marketing contract where they HAVE to play their class in the tournament, but then I heard Snutz was going priest.
why is it always like this?
>>583256781its funny because the people who post your image live in places that look like that.
>>583255491>>583255516as undead should I keep questing in eastern kingdoms or swap over to the barrens?
>>583256582>crybooms are back to making up imaginary scenarios and getting mad at them
>>583256658Firstly you're wrong, and also there was ud pallies in strat live as far back as vanilla 04.
>>583256298My first 60 in 2005 vanilla was a gnome warlock, on a pvp server naturally. This was still when death coil had no horror effect, and instead was simply a form of instant drain with a 10 min cooldown. Wotf was still in its old form with a 20 second duration. The good part was that literally no one was playing warlock. When I hit 55, I immediately received a whisper from a raiding guild if I wanted to join them. They really wanted those banishes for MC.
>>583256865eternal reminder retail latam servers are 80% horde, the most one sided single faction dominance in all regions
>>583256864Same
>>583256865Uh no, I live here lil gup
>>583256902>making up imaginary scenariosSo like… most of the posts I read in this general? Every other post is a reddit tier childish fanfic idea.
Hey folks, dad gamer here with a full time job, three kids, a wife and a floofyboi I was just wondering, will WoW Forever respect my time?
>>583256850i hope he loses so we see less fotm priests, but priest is so good i dont think he will
>>583256298Stay strong brother. Horde favoritism is nothing new to us, we will adapt and overcome as we always have. Just imagine how sweet the noshoes tears will taste when they lose despite holding every advantage.
I wish the day/night cycle in Azeroth was changed to maybe 8 hour cycle or something. It fucking sucks on my schedule. I never get to see any of the cool lighting effects except right as I'm logging off to go to bed.
>been dueling as a boomkin at 20Is it just me or does wraith spamming no longer proc omen at all now. I swore I cast proc 100 times in duels and pvp and it never proc once.
i love it when the devs get quirky. it brings me back to the days when GMs would actually show up in game to help you, wandering around in their blue robes. such cozy nostalgia vibes.
>>583257169>he wins on priest >blizzshart completely guts the class on release
im sad i didnt get to be spastic and annoying on grobbulus. im not missing out this time
>>583254692hello?
Anyone know if you can tame either of the animal bosses in Excavation Site?
what the fuck? this is new
>>583257491horde's strongest warrior
>>583257314what?
>>583257560we're reaching sovl levels previously thought unreachable by blizzard
>>583257560
>>583252101because there are a lot of dungeons in the game?retard
>>583256864I was an ud frost mage in vanilla, tauren shaman in classic and ud warlock in HCThinking troll fire mage this go around.
>>583257560>newly risendid the hacks at blizzard forget their lore again? you aren't risen, you just regained your will, foreskinners in vanilla can't make new undead
i dont post on reddit, but its been fun upvoting every complaint about my class and downvoting every complaint about every other class
>>583257690blvd cooked with this one ngl fr fr
>>583257560undead characters should have this permanentlycompensate it with a buff to touch of the grave or something
>>583257046You aren't white Jose Rodriguez de la Cruz
>>583257738retard
>>583257738Doesn't the first quest you do say you were picked up from the grave?
>>583256881whatever you wantthe first dungeon is in Orgrimmar
Just ated pizza bros. Was good.What's your gamer fuel for Forever today?
>>583257491*burp* hammer*farts and shits pants*hammers up dudes*torrent of vomit and diarrhea spew outwards*
>>583256942>firstly you're wrongForsaken Kingdom clarifies that Leonid isn't a paladin. Zeliek is literally one of the four horsemen, who are all death knights.>there was ud pallies in strat liveAre you talking about Jarien and Sothos? They're warriors.
gimme a sick orc shaman name
>>583257798it's funny how devs fixing a couple of complaints they saw there turned the whole place into a complaint echo chamber
>>583257560>Blizzard adding kino ingame lore debuffs >Canonically Undead Paladins through their love of the light and Sylvanas undead elf pussy they reform their bodies to channel the lightPure LUDOKINO
>>583257738Isn't the lore that the necromantic energies in tirisfal animate corpses there?
>>583257905noDescriptionAbout time you woke up. We were ready to toss you into the fire with the others, but it looks like you made it.I am Mordo, the caretaker of the crypt of Deathknell. And you are the Lich King's slave no more.Speak with Shadow Priest Sarvis in the chapel at the base of the hill, he will tell you more of what you must know.CompletionAnother of the walking dead, hm? Must have been quite a shock, waking up in the crypt with only the cold and Mordo to greet you...I see the confusion on your face. Let me try to explain our... situation... to you.We have been freed from the control of the Lich King by our new leader, Lady Sylvanas. The Dark Lady guides us in our war against the hated Scourge and the holdouts of humanity who dog our every step.
Caved in and gave blizzard $60 to play the beta for two weeks like a retard but I am having a blast.
ME WEAR DRESS
>>583255957>theyve just always had a fein death abilityno, no they fucking havent.
WERE SO BACK BOYShttps://www.twitch.tv/einbaumhttps://www.twitch.tv/einbaumhttps://www.twitch.tv/einbaumhttps://www.twitch.tv/einbaum
>>583257560Okay, so as an undead paladin, shouldn't spells like "Holy Light" damage other undead players who aren't paladins? I don't think they really thought this one through.
>>583257970Charles Green
>>583258096>Get tossed in pile of ressurected undead corpses that aren't waking up>Finally wake up>No dude you've actually been awoken for awhile and fully intact and i'm not a retard who doesn't know the lore
>>583258125>not meryl in the backgroundSNAKERU
how is no one talking about how busted the alliance skybrone racial is ?!?!!?
>>583258197buy a fucking ad
>>583257970Cuckchair Cuckowicz
>>583258203
>>583258125Try taking a foid out for a date. It will cost you at least $150 and a part of your soul. Money well spent, champ.
>>583258207>>Get tossed in pile of ressurected undead corpses that aren't waking upyeah reanimated by the lich king probably years ago, not by the forsaken you faggot
>>583257970xSephirothx Hojo
>>583257970Zerga Grimsight
>>583253874>Starshards. Decent damage for a healer.It's also excellent interrupt bait.
>>583257970Sodafan Foreverpvp
when someone is killing a named quest mob and I invite them and they decline I really have to restrain myself from calling them slurs
>>583258198Holy spells should damage undead players, meanwhile stuff like shadowbolt or shadow word pain can heal them, just like in wc3
>>583257970Loktar Chris
Anons can you help me? I'm building my first PC using used/old parts from ebay and cheap stuff from Alliexpress and Amazon.>Mougol X99 Motherboard>Intel Xeon E5-1650 CPU>x2 DDR4 8GB RAM>GTX 1070ti GPU>600W ATX Power Suply>1TB SSD>Zalman CUBIX-G Micro-ATX Tower Case>Generic cooling fan from AmazonWill WoW forever run okay with this? I've been a laptop enjoyer my whole life but mine couldn't run the beta very well. Thanks, brothers.
Why is he so excited? What did he see?
>>583257970walking totem
>>583257560I am impressed that they finally made a paladin race that doesn't feel gay or retarded to play. I mean Human paladins are okay I guess but so fucking basic and Uther is a cuckold and Tirion sadly died like a bitch so
>>583258560I just learned today that you can now join in the middle of the fight and get the quest
>>583258745>>>/g/
>>583258756Giant tauren tits
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/581704838/#581706965Who was this cutie in here? What guild is he in?
>>583258756This drives him livid and thats funny to me
>>583257738I always thought the forsaken were busting open crypts and coffins looking for undead that didn't get disentombed to recruit to their ranks, and that's one of the reasons there's open graves in Deathknell.
>>583258756'jak him
>>583258805wanking totem, for a tauren
>>583258560Pay it forward and fuck over the next guy.
How does one gear enha shaman? Spellpower or STR and pretend mana problems are a conspiracy theory?
GODDAMMIT this game is so fucking beta. see this shit? any amount of shadows turned on causes it. wtf is this shit?also can't load into the game with multiple light sources turned up. gotta turn that shit of. don't even get me started if i use any multi sample techniquest. this is going live in 45 days?
>>583257970Rikhgar Galescream
>>583258993>controller wtf....
>>583258993wtf r u playing on nigga
>>583258993autistic fuck
>>583258596They should also bring back WC3 dispel magic and inner fire.
>>583258839Yes but I'm asking specifically for WoW so I thought this would be more appropriate. Also i don't know the rules and culture on /g/
>>583258756Turn him into a soijak
>>583259093go lower on the ssdput more in the gpu
I don't understand how penance made it in this game. Fucking busted WotLKslop spell has no business in classic.They were generally pretty conservative but penance is waaay too much.
>>583258993>posted from my android
>>583254120i take 100 hours
>>583257970Groo Oot
>>583259180They should change penance to be a damage-only spell.
>>583259180qrd
>>583259180wait until you hear about wild growth
>>583256531it takes up 2 slots you retarded avatarfag
How does playing on controller work in an MMO with multiple action bars
I kinda hate that information is so consolidated in Discords nowIs there one with information about Priests in WoW Forever?Can I lvl up as Disc Priest in Forever?
>>583256864I tried to sign up as another class, but we have 0 shaman signups and we're going alliance...My warrior dream is dead
>>583259298The triggers are modifier keys for the other buttons
>tfw no belf warlocks in wowfo
>>583259324you could read the notes yourself and wait for launch after they work out some more fuckups
>>583259324Why would you need information?Just play how you want.
>>583258809>and Uther is a cuckold and Tirion sadly died like a bitch sonot in the forever canon
>>583259405>twittertrannyfandom
from zug to you
>>583259324I'm leveling as holy and it's not terrible
>>583259470I'm trying to win the Foreverpvp tournament, so I actually need to know how to play lol. But i guess youre a moron
>>583259505malfoid is for the chuds shitjeep
>>583259505>he doesnt knowfag spotted
>>583259506thank god I get to kill these
>>583258745Impressive level of poorfaggery
Do you get less exp for turning in red quests?
>>583259587>>583259584>I USE TWITTER YAAASS I LOVE HARRY TROONER! I LOVE IT I LOVE IT I LOVE TWITTER YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS SAAAAR
>>583259617
>>583259506
>>583259078Playable dryads that are immune to all magic all the time, both friendly and hostile
my horizontal progression after hitting 60 in a week
>>583259617You’re welcome to try, lil gup :^)
>>583259651>>583259505>TWITTERakshually, its X now.
>>583259651if you died tomorrow no one would weep barafag nigger
Show me your UI
>>583259747I wish I had the time to hit 60 in a week. It will probably take me 3-4 weeks if I just go straight home after work and don't do shit.
>>583259696Neutral firelord race.
>>583259843>>583259796SAAR
>orcs and trolls have the exact same jumping animation
>>583259796I wish I had a big titty annoying nerd gf like this bros....
>>583259782>wait til you pull a mob>pop +10% crit chance for 15 mins>unstealth and nuke you
So WoWhead is telling me there is a shitton of quests for the wetlands dungeon, but I can only find 3 so far. Like the Elemental bog dude is supposed to give you one at level 24, no chain attached from what it says on WoWhead, but I'm 28 and he doesn't have shit for me
Shamans can already tankWhat the fuck
>>583260157It's low level, everyone can tank
the 'foreverpvp' as last name thing was the reason why I didn't join the TFO tournament.Just a weird requirement. My characters have RP names.
>>583260157>giving the class that could already sort of tank talents that cause them to generate even more threat lets them tank betterNo... no that's impossible!
>>583259180They're gonna be cata era levels of busted. My priest main buddy is already excited to try solo healing 10mans.
>pvp on a pvp server>get /w
any pve wowg horde guilds?i cant stand this shitty insta invite one with 200 people talking like they're on tiktok
you just insulted a potential future member of the stormwind guard
>>583260262ooh i didn't know that, sern a bunch of those guys around
>>583259260penance and prayer of mending meant nothing died in BG's in sod, the team that has the most priest won, were lucky they only get one or the other right now
Level 18 priest enough for deadmines healing?
>>583260560yeah just make sure they let you stop to drink
is it worth playing shaman just so I get ghost wolf? priest is so fucking slow......
>>583259582But if you have to ask how to play it you’re not going to win anything.
>>583260560yes
>>583260662fuck yourself niggerfag
>>583260560yeah just make sure they let you stop to reinsert the healersissy anal beads
>enh>big 2h axeOH WE DEEPSING
>>583260694You’re off to a great start.
What makes people want to heal?
>>583260074>for 15 minsNANI?!
>>583260547SoD had great pvp in first half of p3. Priest could just barely keep up with burst damage by spamming expensive heals.Other healers were useless though.Then they gutted it with the damage nerfs.
>>583260842you can put in 0 effort and everyone will still beg you to join
>>583260880>>583260867>>583260842>>583260832>>583260821Is the lore even interesting
>>583260880yeah i was referring to p1 but didnt type it my b
hot sun strike on head
>>583260737Is that painful?
>>583261278SD Orcs look better IMO.
are on hit effects only for autos, or can melee attacks like swipe or claw proc them too?
now that everyone is lvl 30, show me characters in full blue gear like people told me about
>>583260842classic healing is very easy compared to retail healing and its kinda fun.
Jumping builds plainsrunning stacks btw
>Lay on Hands now 20min cd>Reincarnate is still an hourWhy does every single iteration of "classic+" just turn into Paladins getting everything and Shamans getting nothing?
>>583260842You get praised for everything you do, you get free rolls on all the healer gear and you don't actually have to do anything other than follow a player and tab back in to cast a heal every now and then.
>>583261362No ones full blu at 30 people were complaining about it at 20 but oh wonder theyre all gone now
>>583261432I believe lay on hands still uses all of your remaining mana to cast, so there is an additional cost. I'm not too sure how reincarnate works.
>>583261432paladins deserve everything
>undead don't start with the flight path from org to thunder bluffAre you fucking kidding me....
>>583261432you're worse than shitskins crying about paladins, shut the fuck up
>>583260821Enhancement Shamans>100% weapon damage melee attack that comes with a bonus effect, 8 second cooldown but has a talent that lets you reset the cooldown on top of giving the ability a second bonus effectArms Warriors>40% weapon damage melee attack, 20 second cooldown, no talent interactionName a more cucked spec.
>>583261547Yes it's the same. Just a 40 minute cd reduction... Shaman and Paladin are parralel classes. Reinarnate takes a reagent and gives you fuck all hp and mana when you come back.
>>583261587mortal strike has a 20 second cooldown?
>>583261391plainesrunning is literally useless
>>583261587Yep enhancement is basically warrior...enhanced lol a spellsword
hot off the presshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqlOlbvaTsc
>>583261391Thrusting builds them too btw
>>583261691>>583261691>plainesrunning is literally useless>you act like a mini mount with 30% ms
>>583261687Spearing Strike is the Stormstrike equivalent, not Mortal Strike.
>>583261772...and then its useless because mounts exist that go way faster
>>583261708qrd
>>583260842gets me into groups easierif the tank isnt overpulling i just get in there and start dpsing anywaysometimes a cheeky magma totem if i've got a comfortable bank of mana
>>583261572>you're worse than shitskins crying about paladins, shut the fuck up
>>583261708It's over
>>583261772>Has to build up over 2 minutes just to go 1/4th the speed of a normal mount
>>583261838Not inthe beta
>>583261772No, its useless.Tauren can be 4 classes and 3 of them have a speed buff thats equivalent or better.
>>583261772my main complaint is that on tauren, 3 out of their 4 classes get 30%+ movespeed bonuses by level 20 anyways that dont stack with plains walking.so its really just for warriors, offspec druids, and very low level characters. most tauren get cat form speed, ghost wolf, or aspect of whatever the fast one is...cheetah? pack? i dont remember
>>583261941so its good in beta and useless in the actual game got it
>>583261587i made a sham and a wlock at the orc starting areawlock gets oom after 4 casts of shadow bolt enemy at ~40% hp leftsham uses all of his mana but kills the enemyits insane how OP sham is
I heard that when alliance players get defeated by the horde (specially the ones with funny names) they get jailed along with unnaturally hung female satyrs. Is this true?
>>583261860I plan on gearing up my ret paladin via healing just because its going to be easier to get into groups that way.
>>583260157Aggro terrorist is not the same as a tank. t. aggro terrorist
yep, alliance chuds have been awful quiet since baal dropped this trvke
>>583261980Btw you posted an actionable threat which violates us law and will get you investigated! <3
>>583261829the situational pvp/dragon/giant thing?
>>583261587Is Mortal Strike the only melee Warrior ability?
>>583261432Because blizzard doesn't care about shamans.People have been asking for shaman tanks and 2h enhance on and off for nearly 20 years and the answer is always a resounding and stern>"Go fuck yourself nigger."
>>583262050Its still good even IF you have a mount, in dungeons, in raids, i doubt a lot of people will have their mounts at 40>>583262171Ofc not
>>583261567buy a summon its 30silver
>>583262092yes it ist. i'm the tank now
>>583261061Lore is never interesting. Read a book, loser.
>>583262187>I doubt people will have their mounts at 40LOL
>>583262107What is funny is I don't think WoW would have came into existence in a timeline where Blizzard got the Warhammer IP to make what become Warcraft I.
so glad I played the beta (without buying fag elves) because now I'm already burned out and don't feel the need to play at launch.
they changed the ui
>>583262187>Hold on guys let me just run and jump for 2 minutes for my tiny movement buff, this will help in the raid! I also have to keep running and jumping to keep it on!
>>583260157In classic I leveled enhance and could tank up to uldaman. Those big trogs near the back of the dungeon are no joke.
>>583257970Jubjub Scrubnub
>>583253632>want to play Priest>it means having to play Shadow Priest during healing downtimeFuuuck
>>583261708>not a peep about dead zonei guess its okay for hunter to be the only class with a crippling weakness
>>583261708that is an AI voice, right?
>>583262292Is this for horde? Honestly don't hate it and they shouldn't have a gryphon anywaysYep thats sovl
>>583262292hate that
>>583262187>i doubt a lot of people will have their mounts at 40Speak for yourself, I'm getting my freebie.
>>583262150120% weapon damage every 20 seconds is worse than 100% weapon damage and +20% damage on your next cast every 8 seconds. Spearing Strike doesn't even have its dismount effect anymore.
>>583262187>Ofc notThen what is your point retard? Enhancement has literally ONE melee ability and you're whining that it's worse than a Warrior one?
>>583262392they said holy damage is legit
>>583262448oh I didn't even pay attention to warrior talent changes
>>583262393this is bait
>>583262334>>Hold on guys???You can just build stacks all the time
>>583247293>warlock in the middleWarlocks are probably the 2nd best leveling class in the game only behind hunter. Dots even auto tag mobs now.
>>583262559i fartedd
>>583262292>>583262420nothing says sovl more than "we changed it for marketing reasons so the games look different"
>>583262086Go back to XIV.
>>583248394I main prot warrior > holy priest > hunter = RogueI always have a tank
>>583262567>Guys, I'm helping! See? I have +30% movement! This means so much in a raid!
i'm getting attached to my character...
>>583262349Those troggs bodied the real tank classes too if you didn't focus dps and 2 enraged at the same time.
>>583262464That could be cool. Having dual spec with disc and alternate dicsc (damage talents), or holy and holy, would feel weird.I'd rather spam smite and penance than deal with S. Priests regular gameplay loop, I really don't enjoy it
I'm bringing my level 13 Sky Elf Male Balance Druid to Loch Modan because I don't want to spoil Darkshore for my Night Elf Male Druid.
>>583251294all the replies you're getting are from retoilets, this game is retail wearing a classic skin, but definitely isn't in the spirit of vanilla wow
>>583261708>survival hunters can place traps in combatthey changing it to only survival?
i cant decide between>shaman>warlock>warrior
>>583255720>Tranny colors plushie shaman a 9LmaoHunter finally gets a set that looks like a hunter set instead of some random theme, I love GS but none of the vanilla hunter sets feel thematic.
>>583262292>>583262420I think the UI should change as you level. At level 1 you shouldn't have the statues, at level 30+/- you get the (unused) lions, and then at level 60 you get the gryphons/wyverns
Im gonna make an Undead Paladin and a Tauren Priest if they ever get added
>>583262589>im a cynical homosexulThat's not my problem bro. I like it. Good change. Very Classic+
>>583262429>xhe doesn't know
>>583253904"decent" what, retard?you followed directions while the addon plays the game for you, anyone with iq above 50 can do thatI wish they just removed all addons from the game
>>583251294i never played either but it feels like vanilla wow
>>583262964Reminder its the retail UI theyre slowly turning it into retail
>>583262567goes down when you stop or get hit
alright guys, I need to make the /trek/ to Loch Modan from Darkshore.
>>583262292so did i
>>583251359but retail is extremely easy
>The only real way to level super low level hunter pets in classic was to bring them to dungeons and leech xp>Dungeon XP nerfed into the groundRemember for launch bros, if you want to use a low level pet for its looks tame it asap and never stop using it
>>583257970Loktar Oscar
>>583262979>cynicalin their first fucking podcast the guest eceleb asked why the different ui and the answer was literally that
is there honorbuddy for this?
>>583263072i dont see a difference between this and whats in forever doe
>>583263065puny little elf i will eat you alive loktar
>>583263065tram from IF to SW, then boat from SW to Auberdine, wow that was hard
>>583263102Fuck that's good anon
>>583263047The statues aren't the same as the ones in retail.
>>583262731This is why I've stopped playing
>>583262989why u so mad
>>583263167the minimap is a bit different, as is the player frame
>>583263198My bad retail one looks HIDEOUS forever ones should be silver though
>>583263047except its not?
>>583263167it changes all the ui, character pane/talents window etc to the old one
I can't wait to start groups with my warrior and only invite spellcaster dps and healers so I can horde all the melee dps gear.
do alliance players have souls? i feel like every one i meet can't see the apple
>>583263203and do what with the sub in the meantime?mop? classic? i'm not touching retail
>>583263162And it doesn't make me like the change any less. So fucking what?
>Multiboxing follower bots on the betaGenuinely what the fuck is wrong with these people
>>583263352Report em
>>583263093100 times harder than classic
>>583258980There'll be tons of new gear and they made a talent to let you scale AP from Int, main stats you want are still Hit/Strength/Crit
>>583263352That's a maccas customer right there.
>>583263395...but it's not, it's actually extremely easy, the raids are easy
>>583262572I was mostly just pissed at pets being bugged (ignoring commands when you leave combat, even if you've told it to attack a new target). It's less of an issue on hunter. Imp also makes no attempt to attack a target if it doesn't have LoS.
>>583263351i accept your concession
do horde players have inner monologue? i feel like every one i meet are AI generated
>>583263170You understand my Character is a Balance Druid right?>>583263176thanks /v/ro./v/ros.. I don't think I can leave Darkshore. It's too ludokino.
https://isboxer.com/multiboxing-world-of-warcraftIs this worth it?
>>583263395What mental illness is this?
>>583257970Tate hotems
>>583263352Seems like a fun way to play at low level desu>>583263464Accept deez nutz retard
race and class for looksmaxxing?
>>583263345You don't need to be subbed for the beta, and the sub included with the beta starts on the release day
>>583263395Raids are babyshit in Retail
>>583263390multiboxing is allowed though
>>583263526eat youalivemokta
>>583263537It called being mythic brained, alas it is terminal
>>583263345don't play wow at all, you're ruining the launch experience for yourself. can just browse wowhead news / look at screenshots in the thread to satiate your curiosity
>>583263537It's the truth and you're beyond delusional if you think otherwise, maybe Normal raids are on par with something like Naxx, but Heroic and Mythic are harder than anything in Classic by a fucking country mile
>>583263610>You don't need to be subbed for the betaim a fucking idiot
Where did the sex elf slopper go? Genuinely considering becoming a sloppa for sex elves myself but need a few guides for that before I do it. What's the demand like for it?
vgh.... fogever.... vgh...
>>583263635>HDslop
I can't tell yet. Does the undead starting zone suck? Why is there so much running in horde starter zones.t. gnome mage in classic
>>583263452>>583263537>>583263613t. retards
https://files.catbox.moe/jg3v66.png>nyooo it's retail because... the heckin statues are faction appropriate now!!!!
>>583263734/console volumeFog 0
>>583263753druidgawdswe fucking suck (this is a GOOD thing, here's why!)
>>583262987You gonna actually tell me or vague post? Because if it is a questline like original classic with some items then fine for the epic version but the base mount should just be an instant redeem at 40, what has changed?
>>583263803Are you trans and brown irl?
>say nigger in chat yesterday>it doesn't go through>now all my whispers take forever to send>sometimes up to 15 secondsare they watching me or something?
>>583263453Is this a known bug? Blizzard will fix it before November, r-right?
>>583263914no, rajheet.
>>583264025post your hand
>>583263926Ya dun goofed kiddo. Consequences will never be the same
>>583263753Insane how just giving paladins a solid attack button changed the entire leveling experience.
Questing is already so tedious with all these players doing them at once. We NEED a way to switch to a lower populated layer it's insane
>>583263926You're shadowbannedWhy did you type nigger when they have automated shit that catches it
>>583263926Yes you have trannies at blizzard watching your chat waiting to get clearance from the supervisor tranny to ban you
>>583264068Yeah sure wasnt the healing, the mail armor, the bubble, the buffs
>>583263832i think they disabled that
ALEXENSUAL WONHE FUCKING WON
>>583264189
how do i get my shaman skills to also put my character into uh mele...range/pose whatever
>>583264189I'm wondering if will actually last to the real release of forever because his life cycle doesn't let him stream for more than like 3 months in a row before the hibernation takes hold again. Man has zero consistency.
>>583263352basically all the cancer in the beta going on right now is related to the streamer duel tournament
>>583264298>>583264189
It's crazy how much easier retail is than forever.
>>583263832I like the fog
game is already dead and just the same retail filth is here keeping this shit hole alive, grim
>>583264068yeah, my second ever character was a femhuman paladin in vanilla and god damn leveling as ret was so boring that I actually switched to prot so I could at least auto attack and consecrated a few mobs to death at a time, cus you had a shield and could block damage. Its not like ret didnt work, but you could literally play it while reading a book or something. IIRC you didnt get an actual rotational attack until like level 50 with crusader strike way down the tree.
>>583264412>
>>583264401
>>583264459there was no CS in classic, that was added in TBC
>>583264445>game is already dead>its more populated than retail and its only in paid betalol
>>583264445t. tranny
What is the most apm intensive/fun class? I am almost falling asleep on prot warrior, fury has a decent rage generation after current changes, arms is beyond awful
>>583264597Rogue
Its really frustrating that the only thing stopping this build is there is no "mana regeneration while casting" at all in the elemental tree.
you retards know you can admit retail is harder while still thinking that it's worse, right, it doesn't invalidate your feelings to acknowledge objective facts
triggered retoilets
I love how threatened retailcucks are over forever
>>583264597survival hunter
>>583264231Taint piercer
>>583264597hows fury in general? with dw and shit
>>583264710post retail population sar
>>583264597prot warrior is very fun right now, I just think you might not like the combat pacing of classic.
>>583263753Beta has completely mind fucked normies. Levels 1-20 is the least impactful part of the game in terms of who is "best" at anything.
>>583264896Most impactful if you start though
we're going to make wow forever in the spirit of vanillastarts off by homogenizing the game as the first thing they do
>>583264851Is prot warrior OP or something right now? I made an undead warrior but I'm only level 7 right now.
>>583264597In PvP; Druid. In PvE; Rogue I think?
>>583264732I played Retail and will switch to Forever, I also played Classic (and some Turtle), it's just objective reality that raids/dungeons were piss easy in Classic compared to RetailLike the other guy said that doesn't change the fact that Retail is worse in every other conceivable way which is why barely anyone plays it anymore
>>583264693My theory is the entire mana economy is being balanced around having JoW on the target which is kinda lame.
fucking hell i have never played shamanbut god DAMN its funbasically a nature warrior
>>583264996I don't think its OP but its probably the strongest levelling spec for warrior. Revenge at level 14 is really strong in the beta, they buffed it a lot compared to actual classic. Speccing into prot lets you get more rage too.
>>583262086100%>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMg1HMTHF4w
>>583264749Still leveling but its actually making decent rage, even tanked SFK with dw (level 23). Almost smoked a 30 rogue as well, though pvp always have a player-skill component attached to it (i got stomped by a 20 druid haha)
>>583264693Totemic focus at least isn't a terrible talent to max to get to mindfulness. Let resto have something nice.
>>583265234>>583265234>>583265234>>583265234
>>583265086don't let them know
>>583265086enhancement shaman is a battlemage
FUCK OFF
>>583264597Warlock when you're fear kiting multiple enemies.
>>583263753I've leveled druid and war, they don't seem that bad.Wars are chain pulling gods if you keep your gear up to date to stick to yellow/green mobs. Plus constant tank spot invites.Druids are zooming as soon as they get cat, can prowl past dangerous mobs, have a second hearth for training skills and can literally invite themseves into any group, especially now that they get a regular rez.
>>583264231>that's allowed but this is verboten
>>583265086yeah missing 3 attacks in a row is the most fun i've ever had in the game
>>583265193tanked as fury?
>>583264851It is true that they did some work to improve rage generation but I dont think its enough, specially for boss fights. On the other hand, dps players are very unpolite, they like to pull ahead when healer is oom etc. overall its more stressful than tanking on retail (which already sucks)
>>583265789Yes, on defense state.
>>583265907If DPS runs ahead and pulls mobs they tank, that's Rule 0
>>583246664>>583246835Finally, I can win the STV fishing contest tomorrow, no competition.
>>583249859Das dingob!
>>583264386they really just need to start perma banning these streamers. full account shutdowns for even the most minor suspicion of infraction. no quarter, heads on pikes
I can't fucking decide on fucking anything
>>583266383bald male undead warlock. pvp server. tailoring, enchantingthere you go. thank me later
i have never seen a white hand posted next to a warrior, warlock, druid, or mage post.
>>583251383each time i grouped with one of them they were at the bottom of the dps meter. as dps.
>>583266383>>583266573nah female skelf horde druid, herb/alchfat stacks of money, fun leveling after 10, and people want you in every sense of the word
>>583266383Same.
>>583264693The only thing stopping that build is that it's garbage.
For pve healing, how much better are priests than shaman? I've heard that alliance shamans will always get groups but if thats only due to being a totem jockey then... idk I might go priest
>>583267294Chain heal is op
>roll pvp server>either be one of the first people ahead of the pack and have a great time>or you're a slow shitter who just gets bullied the entire leveling journey>since it's a megaserver literally less than 1% of your pvp encounters will feel completely shit (you either steamroll a solo with help or you get steamrolled while your solo vs a group)>basically no 1v1s ever, even if you aren't in a group someone will almost always come to steamroll the person with you or they will have someone spawn out of thin air to defend themThis shit is so fucking lame. Outside of the massive zerg fights (which have been basically monopolized by streamers who can get raids going easily) there is ZERO reason to ever roll on pvp unless you have a consistent group with you and even then you'll get bored steamrolling solos.
https://litter.catbox.moe/g8a77z.png>>583267710yes pvp servers are a meme and only the mentally stunted or no lifers (redundant) play on them anymore
>>583265086Enhancement is basically a Red Mage. Its genuinely fun if you can learn to use your whole toolkit.
>>583258434I went bowling last night with my gf and it cost $30 total you terminaly online virgin boy
