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>another 1 day thread
Thread avarage on this week is like 24 - 37 hours
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>>583249491
Playable tuskarr confirmed!
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>>583249570
could be worse. gw2 just had their biggest patch of their expansion cycle and yet gw2g's previous thread was like 9 days and its current thread is nothing but page ten bumps
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>>583249817
how about xiv?
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>>583249620
>DRIVE returns in the form of bobsleds
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>>583249936
I'll never forgive them for not making Gally'x encounter use the cars to drift.
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>>583249918
they fill up a thread in like 6 hours
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>>583249570
We know darkspear paladins are on the way, and so now exist without want.
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>>583248382
Because it doesn't have Mechagnomes and is therefore not worth my time.
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>>583250050
just like the malygos fight, normoids would rage and be big mad about using vehicles during a boss fight.
i dislike blizz as much as the next schizo but when they try something new, think mekatorque back in BFA, the (((community))) rages and throws tantrums

so now all you get is:
>avoid le dmg wave
>soak le dmg circle
>kill le adds
rinse and repeat
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>>583250249
>darkspear paladins
gay paladins...
the power of the rainbow
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>>583250779
Humans already exist.
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>>583250692
speaking of
i fucking hate this stupid thing so much why do they have map markers and minimap markers and this fuckin thing hovering in the center of my screen fuck off. are average wow players really so retarded
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>>583250935
They are, yeah. They keep looking at most downloaded addons and adding them to the game. The automatic rotation thing exists because there were 10+ million downloads on Hekili and I imagine this quest thing's equivalent has a similar origin.
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>>583249385
Love wowg anons!!!
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>>583250692
Don't forget seed slop! Gotta carry seeds and avoid everything because you'll wipe otherwise, how engaging! This way you can have your non-braindead players curse their lives as the certified smoothbrains get carried.
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>>583250529
Are you seriously crying because it thankfully doesn't have the shitty diaper gnomes?
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>Icecrown with Acherus floating over it as the main hub
>Main pillar is now completely open air so players can freely fly in and out of the citadel
>Vertical design, Vendors/AH on the upper floors with campaign quests and weeklies handed up in Acherus
>Lower floors still teeming with feral scourge, dungeon and delves down here
>Frozen throne now a tourist attraction, get your picture taken while sitting on it for 5 silver
I could see it.
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>>583251276
>This way you can have your non-braindead players curse their lives as the certified smoothbrains get carried.
this is why i quit raiding.
i learn a fight in 2/3 pulls at most, but the problem is i now need to constantly wipe until the other 19 retards get it through they thick "brain" as well.

i blame myself really, solo players/casuals were right all along.
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>>583250050
Drive+Seed mechanic.
If you bump into another player, mechanic or even an object while drifting you explode and wipe the raid
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>>583251382
No genius, but apparently you or someone else have asked that like four times now for whatever reason and "I'm just not interested" is apparently incomprehensible as an answer.

But in all seriousness, I like Mechagnomes as much as regular Gnomes. If I cared enough to try Clarever I'd probably start anew with one, if they were an unpaid for addition.
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Do straight men have a personality beyond their sexuality?
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>>583250249
Hope darkspear and ud racials get a small tweak/buff when pallies hit.
Guessing bubble+cannibalize will be banned in retail too
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>>583253119
Yes, I even have two of them.
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>>583253243

Gnome warlock and Undead rogue?
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>>583250848
>humans and trolls are gay
gayness is spreading...
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>>583253349
Tauren druid and dracthyr evoker, ackshully.
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>>583254405
>dracthyr evok-ACK
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>"WE'RE REMAKING ALL OF NORTHREND"
>deletes half the zones so you can go to Zereth Ordus instead
HYPE
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>>583254570
Can't be a tauren evoker now, can I you dumb cunt?
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>>583254657
man I cant get away from malfoy anywhere this week
some of the art and fics are pretty peak though
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Between goblins, earthen, haranir and zandalari which one actually results in more gold/materials gained in the long term due to racials?
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fat eredar tiddies
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>>583255374
*nvm, the gobbo wins at the AH while earthen is the general material farmer.
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>>583255374
the answer is irrelevant as professions are dogshit for gold making especially gathering ones
sell boosts buy tokens or flip shit on the ah and lose all your money because you lack esoteric cartel knowledge from the pay-to-join cartel trooncord
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>>583254639
Pelagos is gonna be integral to the story of forever
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>>583254639
Uhh Anon I think you forgot it's 4 new zones and 8 new dungeons only. No more and no less.
>>583256110
God, I hope so. Giving them a tranny god would be so fucking funny.
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>>583256519
I have faith in KatieDev
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>>583254639
Underwater Gundrak will be a delve at least!!
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>Labyrinth of Kin(d)o
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That was the last one I needed. I'm having a good day. Welp, back to Forever beta.
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>>583259610
nooooo come back
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>>583259610
May I interest you in farming some Korthia mounts?
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>>583259921
Unfortunately, I'll happily wait until Shadowlands Remix is announced.
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>about to time kr 18
>healer just stop healing the tank and we wipe
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>>583255594
too small
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What is it about Midnight that people are just not feeling? I mean other than the lore and main story being a complete and utter disaster. But the gameplay itself is fine. Yet people just seem to not be enthused about anything Midnight related. Even the WoW forums are drying up. TWW had more people engaged.
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>>583260678
It's just not an engaging narrative, you can't make two expansions out of a generic purple elf smugly smirking at the end of every story beat and when the filler is other elves talking about unity it just melds into one big boring elf slop.

Genuinely genocide each and every elf from the game
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post husn
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Post gnome
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>>583261752
I don't have any gnomes to post :(
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>>583260859
I'm not sure it's just Elves to be fair, this has happened every single time when Blizzard has focused primarily on a single race. The Orcs are a good example during the WoD era. From my experience at least, people seem most engaged when either the overarching story is very good, or it's faction related stuff. I'm not talking about player count, just simple engagement. Them putting the faction conflict on the back-burner was a huge mistake. But I guess they don't give a shit about engagement as long as they are making good money and people stay stubbed. Gah, who knows I suppose.
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>>583261752
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>>583261947
It isn't just elves but writing Xally as if she is just an elf was a major fumble.
You have a void entity that can possess bodies and puppet them around convincingly looking to subterfuge their way into gaining evermore power.

I would have killed Alleria off-screen in a cutscene that's open to interpretation as to what happened and have a reveal that Xally is now in Alleria's body. Or any other character, do something with the character for fuck sake
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>>583262373
big...
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>>583262384
That's fair. It was even more odd that when they showed her being mortal and she was just a Human.. but purple. I mean come on. I don't know why they are so allergic to doing anything truly surprising or out of left field.
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>>583262313
husn drinks wrong potion? how much did this gen cost you 0.5 cents?
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I love hiding the comments of gooners.
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>>583259610
>Welp, back to Forever beta.
Is this you?
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>>583262313
wtf I love her now
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>>583262313
cute!
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>>583263405
I thought Trollanon wasn't going to play Forever wtf...
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Pre-season expansion launch is the most fun time
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damn I hate those wow forever fags
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>>583265821
They're still in their honeymoon period
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>>583265821
I play all versions of the game and don't tribalfag
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people who said never touch blizzard games again are now back playing
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>>583266675
I mean we saw the first phase of that when the OG hype died down and they all came crawling back.
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>>583266538
That sounds exhausting
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>>583266998
I feel dec - jan retail will be quiet, last year I was playing both remix and retail, that was nice
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>>583267102
It is.
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>Game's first suggestion when I went to make a fagon for the first time
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>>583267753
drop the beard and he'd actually be kind of cute
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12 years since Warlords of Draenor and still no mog that matches the challenge mode fist weapon
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>Thinking about raiding
>Need to fill a job application to join a guild
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I am having such a terrible time on beta. Like genuinely 20-30 is giving me cancer. Would you guys accept me if I came back?
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>>583267753
>visage form
what did you expect?
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>>583268070
I found a semi match using Undermine zone pieces with Lemix pieces
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>>583268460
What's your favorite Pokémon?
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>>583268460
change zones and get back to work
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Wow. You spent like two years getting zoomer-stared down every time you logged huh.
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>>583268697
now that's the gay expansion
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>>583268413
Just look for a human guild that just has you contact an officer/gm and doesnt mention bullshit applications on their page
>ummm you must open this google from and fill out 4 pages of hr bullsit
>ummm you must join our trooncord so you can write your cv just so an officer can tell you they arent recruiting for the season 2 days later and its all for next season
>ummm you must read this 50 page manifesto about our history rules and goals (yes this shit is actually real) before applying
like fuck off
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>>583268697
idk alexstrasza's look of utter contempt and disgust is kinda hot ngl
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>>583268697
>bigger number of males than females
Yup it's gaycoded
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>>583268961
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>>583269519
Looks like a troon
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>>583268460
no, you bare the stink of fagever… you are no longer of our clutch…
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haha imagine alex's thighs pressed up against your ears while she's quivering, trying desperately not to crush your skull yet unable to stop her own convulsions haha
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>>583269913
You might be gay dude
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>>583268697
alexstrasza is so fucking hot in that, and then you have that gayfag wise-chinaman-wannabe ruining the whole vibe
the three guys all look a little too off, it's like they were drawn by a fujoshi
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>another huge devourer buff on Tuesday
>followed by another one the following Tuesday
they're not even that bad what the fuck is happening?
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>>583270079
yeah whatever, go fap to your flat, unshapely ```women``` what look like anorexic twinks
i'll take the real women
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>>583270813
lmao bodied that freak
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>>583270813
seething
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fagever = no content
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>>583265821
same
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>>583265919
Honeymoon? These people hated blizz a few weeks ago and now theyre ready to give their lives to blizz. Theyre so enthralled and blinded by hopium the comedown is going to be INSANE!
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>>583270813
absolutely mad
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just nuke heroic ulatek from orbit and make it a loot pinata blizz ffs
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>>583273514
>as if it wasn't already
maybe LFR is more your groove?
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>>583249570

Mediocre performance for so-called Retails Bvlls
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>>583270079
>Sex with women makes you gay
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>>583274160
so assraped
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Silence Classic Peasants.

https://files.catbox.moe/zfvr4s.mp3
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>>583273514
how the hell are people still struggling with this boss this many weeks in
at this point even if you suck at the mechanics you should be able to bruteforce the harder checkpoints via sheer ilevel
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blue really is better
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harpies playable when
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>>583274683
Yeah?
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>>583274729
needs to be not crazy to pug broski chief
right now bad tether = wipe, bad egg = wipe etc etc
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>>583274683
you around Philly? we could meet up and maybe
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>>583267753
Do their artists not realize how dogshit the hair looks without any kind of scalp or stubble texture like they used to have, every new hairstyle looks like a wig
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>>583274729
pretty sure if you don't have aotc you're stuck in the shitter groups that will actually invite you but can't clear without massive effort
the groups i've been in teh past few weeks only need like 3 attempts before its dead
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gobbos can never be trusted.
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when kithix
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>>583274893
That's not blue is better that's from the newest game FAKE FAN
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>>583277261
13th
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>>583277230
The Elfication of all fantasy races must be studied. and those behind such evils must be put down like the dogs they are.
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>>583277404
>The (((Elf)))ication
there's your answer
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>>583268460
Hi, me again, what do I do on retail when I come back?
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>>583277265
sorry
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just one more key for 3600
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tyrande sloppa
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>>583277926
>fat ass
I can confirm thats tyrande
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>>583278005
>fat ass
You must be from africa
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Good thing Sally Whitemane was saved just in time by the death knights because if she lived long enough to see lightforged draenei we'd need to verify age just to enter Scarlet Monastery.
[Input drae x Sally catbox link here IF THE DAMN THING WORKED TODAY.]
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>>583274729
i dont have a guild and dont want one (i got aotc for free from a friends guild but the bonus roll on that kill was dogshit)
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>Nerfs are ~6% AoE, ~7-10% ST
its over dkbros...
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Someone tell me how does the crest discount works on alts, do i wanna get at least hero of the down or w/e first?
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>>583280004
You gotta get max hero track on all slots and then your alt pays less per upgrade. It's a massive time save if you plan to max your alt out.
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>>583277926
Made for rimming
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>>583278668
aren't we all, really?
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>>583268413
Guild apps are a filter for illiterate brownoids. Reading and following a basic prompt in English makes them recoil in pain.
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ive main a warlock for years. its been fun but I would like to dabble with something new. Any suggestions on a new gaming experience?
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>>583279915
massive nerf but its frost and blood's turn anyways
back to the cuckshed, BITCH!
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>>583268413
If you're good enough you set up an announcement on a recruitment discord/raider.io and they message you themselves. You ARE good enough, right Anon?
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>>583280673
>shitty bait
no ones bitin' moron
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i need more
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>>583281181
more of what, specifically?
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>>583281479
Yes
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for keys and raiding should I go WW or Ret?
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I need worgslop
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>ai jeet hours
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>>583277742
Its okay at least you have good taste
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>>583281619
more sloppas? what'd you'd like?
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>>583281676
both decent ww more shoehorned into phys groups tho
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>>583281676
You'll see more action in high M+ and raids as WW this season.
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>>583281878
Same design, just more of it please. I like simple things. Very big, simple things.
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Is it fun to be feral? Is it worth the effort?
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>>583281878
UD Shadow priest ass shot
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Any catbox alternatives? I think someone was abusing the dynamic IP I was given for the week before me and I'm not able to upload shit.
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>>583280706
unholy is still better for 4 bosses
not bad
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>>583281950
just give me some request to work off

>>583282060
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>>583282747
>just give me some request to work off
A day at the beach please. And if you have extra time, one where she's shopping in town as well.
Thank you so much.
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>>583282836
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>>583279915
>meanwhile devourer buffs are 12% ST/8% cleave
hahaha get fucked redKEKS, purples are back
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man... porn used to mean something in blueboard threads. ai really has ruined everything
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THE TRUE PROTECTORS OF AZEROTH WILL RETURN AND TRIUMPH OVER THE INVADING FORCES THAT SOIL OUR WORLD!
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>>583283831
hey can you stop with the dogshit sloppa that looks and has nothing to do with the game whatsoever? thanks retard
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>>583283831
Thanks so much
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>>583284156
hey
no
best regards
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Dog in.
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>>583284412
haha oh yes you will stop, don't worry
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>>583282747
>just give me some request to work off
You do porn right?
If yes, do some more stuff With the NElf with Shotas please. Riding cock, sucking cock etc etc
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>>583284490
very ominous anon, I'm sure the jannies will ban me any time now after posting thread sloppa for over 2 years

>>583284565
I'm not the nelfcuck guy
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>>583284819
>I'm not the nelfcuck guy
Well damn dude can you still do some Shota or not?
If you don't want to, then just make a few NElf being sluts naked. Some tribbing of Tyrande with a Normal NElf
Pussy eating with a pov of the side seeing them both
And some 69. Thanks
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>>583284420
I guess...
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>>583285090
I don't really do much with hardcore stuff as I don't enjoy it that much. mostly do borderline nudity, lewd or some cute stuff. sometimes just dramatic pinups.
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>>583285438
Bro you fucking do AI porn, just shut the fuck up and put the prompts in nigger so I can jerk off.
Jesus christ.
That or post where you started your shit so I can start making AI stuff, becuase youre worthless as fuck.
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>>583282747
>no ears, no eyebrows, no horns, no tail
this isn't elf or draenei
this is just purple human
disgusting. keep this shit to yourself
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>>583278827
>>583282176
Guess I'm stuck making SFW stuff for the time being then...
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>>583285579
ay I don't have to cater to everyone
I just want to share the stuff with likeminded anons
and source is NAI, just go make your own

>>583285580
it's an undead, my guy
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Uguu.se
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>>583285593
>areolae
uhhhhhh

nice undead though
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>>583284420
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>>583286010
Cute...
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>>583285860
>it's an undead, my guy
with no bones, rotting flesh, or ruined clothes?
wrong. make some better slop or fuck off.
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Well, there it is.
https://h.uguu.se/DffoxghO.png
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>>583285860
>it's an undead cuz uh...it's purple!
kill yourself
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>>583286239
well thats nice
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which dps classes are actually fun to play? im getting bored of the downtime with UH
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>>583286756
all the classes have downtime
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>>583286756
ABC (always be casting) is more of a ranged thing. There's specs like devastation evoker that always wanna be casting something and have the appropriate filler abilities to do so without fucking up their rotation.
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gg ez fuck you ion
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>>583286756
frost dk
havoc dh
>>583286971
ww is like the only class that not ABC
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>>583286228
>>583286548
touchy today, aren't we

this better?
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>>583287428
yea, but i hate slop so i'm still going to be mad about it
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>>583284156
Go be a faggot somewhere else
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I want to play through the worst expansion (Shadowniggers) with a new character, what is the worst race/class combo? I want to feel dread and pissed off while going through the whole xpack.
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>>583288115
aug evoker
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>>583287428
Cute, but needs to be bigger
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>>583288115
Dragonflight is worse.
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>>583285989
Yeah, these are coming out pretty good.
https://n.uguu.se/MDCmQMQu.jpg
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>>583261752
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>>583288467
Elaborate, I quit during shadowniggers and skipped 2 xpacks, you mean to tell me I avoided something worse than the xpack they did my boi Arthas dirty?
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>pugging ulatek
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>>583261752
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>>583288115
It ain't gonna feel all that bad until you get to Korthia. The initial starting campaign of SL wasn't really terrible, I dare say interesting with how they started... It's when the first patch just decided to divert the fuck away from everything with all this out of nowhere shit that it started taking a heavy turn.

Frankly, questing campaign through TWW/Midnight feels so much worse since you spend majority of it babysitting a fucking idiot, even if that idiot changes through zones.
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>>583287720
I wish we didn't have to resort to slop, but this game just has no talented fan artists anymore besides like 2 guys pushing out a piece every 3 months
the golden era lewd artists are long gone
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>>583289051
The 3D guys are still going strong. Liard is making an interactive Alleria game at the moment.
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>>583288779
Shadowlands had many many issues but Dragonflight is what sealed the disneyfication of the writing and the artstyle.

It was made by the nu-devs after the fake #metoo purged or sidelined the old guard. 10.0 was particularly egregious with terrible characters and writing. For some reason even the standard of voice acting collapsed too, though that has recovered slightly.
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>>583289110
yeah those guys are still well into it
mostly taking about 2d stuff
most new stuff wow gets is just bottom of the barrel hyper fetish stuff or furry commissions
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nerf shaman buff or remove it
idk how its possible i go from season 1 on one spec i'm not even playing anymore to two different specs that both need shaman buff
this shit is broken
remove it
or remove shamans
fuck shamans
TSD
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>>583289042
>>583289129
I see, so play through trannyflight-tww and midnight as a aug evoker to feel that sense of dread and pissed off? Or is there a worse class/race combo?
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>>583288519
undead babes....
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>>583289679
Nothing will be worse than aug because aug does 0 damage by design. Hits less than a healer.
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I've been getting a good amount of gold (by my low standards) selling Sin'dorei Lens that have been selling way above the prices that it should but I just don't get why.
It isn't used for anything useful, except for profession tools, but they're getting sold by the hundreds so who are the people needing hundreds of profession tools?
And at the price it is selling, the other crafts that require it just don't make any profit, so why is it so high?
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>>583289849
Disenchanting maybe?
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maybe if you faggots stopped jerking each other off in the thread you could kill the boss
crazy thought i know
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>>583289051
This image is too sad. Please make her get better, have giant breasts, and be happily married.
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>>583286987
theres a mad dash of brain deads in this key range
i'm trying to get through it on my alt rn
shit healers and bad dps abound i swear to fucking god
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>>583290113
i had a similiar feeling even if she is grotesque below the neck
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I keep watching videos of classes like boomy and spriest topping meters in mythic raids. Do they only excel in mythic? if I pick one will they be shit in other game modes?
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>>583290113
>>583290330
oh also i just noticed her right hand is on backwards too
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>>583290460
Accidents happen in the world of undeath. She did her best.
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>>583290453
They need stuff to live long enough for them to do their AoE. Spriest especially.
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>>583290453
boomy is just pad the spec
like its worse than most iterations of ret
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>>583289758
Good challenge accepted, play through the worst xpacks with the worst spec, should thoroughly piss me off
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>>583290453
>Spec with dots requires the enemies to stay alive long enough for the dots to tick enough damage to allow them to use their big spender spell.
Spriest and Boomkin are out-dated spec design when it comes to the modern game, same goes for Affliction.
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>>583290196
yeah healers filtered me hard and a few stupid low dps like a shaman doing 120k st when the dk and the rogue are short of 200
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>>583290113
the good end

>>583290460
oh shit you're right
I had thought of that as the pinky but it looks more like a thumb
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>>583290939
Perfect.
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>>583291417
The entire point of that scene in Harvey Birdman was George Jetson was talking about the past like it was the distant future
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i miss hgc :(
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>>583291417
>one orc expansion vs five elf expansion
God I hate this company and community so much
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Horde just gets whatever the fuck they want huh
They ask for Undead paladins, not only do they get them but they get an entire new warcraft 3 campaign about undead paladins and new paladin exclusive horse assets with a lot more effort than anything the Alliance ever got, this while the Alliance gets... Dwarf shaman? With 2009 Cataclysm totem models? The ugly race nobody wants to play is the only shaman of the Alliance, while the horde gets one of their most popular as Paladin.

Don't even mention how with the Skyborn, the 30 USD race that by Chirs Metzen quote stopped the Alliance from getting High Elves because "think bigger guys! like how i think of self inserting as green jesus! 30 usd blue elves for both factions!", give the horde yet ANOTHER Shaman race with entire new assets while the Alliance gets... mage, a class with zero assets required.

The cherry on the cake is all this happening during the "Alliance killed on sight" Midnight expansion with the devs confirming "we're coming back to Faction conflict! but only hordes killing alliance of course", because perish the thought of Horde being kill on sight on Bel'ameth and Gilneas, instead they get to walk freely there.
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Will you drink the bottle of weirdly off colour melon juice? She'd be really sad if you didn't...
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alliance tranny melty
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>>583291915
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>gw3
>runescape 4
>the riot mmo
should blizzard have started working on a proper wow 2 instead of chasing quick money with forever? i feel like wow will soon fall behind the competition
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which of the leather melee classes are actually enjoyable to play and worth the effort?
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>>583291985
>runescape 4
Always said Dragonwilds was just the base for something new.
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>>583292062
Feral is in a decent spot right now.
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>>583291985
Yes, but they don't have the team to make a new MMO. All they have it nostalgia pandering which is Holly Longdale's bread and butter.
Last Titan would've been the perfect time to announce they're working on a WoW 2 and that after Last Titan they're gonna do an epilogue expansion or two to wrap up loose ends and shit.
Then have a huge timeskip for wow 2 and make a Warcraft 4 to establish the new era and it's lore.

But god forbid this company does anything smart.
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>>583289958
that's smart, I didn't know you could disenchant crafted gear
but I just realized that there are way cheaper tools you can disenchant that are higher rarity and thus give better loot
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>>583291985
You know what, I feel exactly the same.
They should've gone for proper WoW 2 rather than this quick classic+retail one
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is war bad
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>>583292585
if you play Arms yeah
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>>583292162
after alizzCon, they explicitly said that a wow 2 is not needed. i don't know how much more they can frankenstein the old engine, but the more time passes, the more they're going to struggle with adding new, modern features.
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>>583292585
it's a necessary evil
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>>583291978
I'd make her into an eredar with green cum as a response but my tools are unfortunately far too limited for that.
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>>583292736
>couldn't add slots to the default backpack because some ancient eldritch code written by a dude from 20 years ago would fall apart if they did
it's not needed because they don't want to do it
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>mfw making trade chat go into a frenzy when you mention that Forever is going to replace Retail and invalidate all of their collectables
>not even going to play it
lmao
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>>583292830
they're shortsighted as fuck. they really overestimate how much nostalgia can carry the ip.
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>>583292736
They're fundamentally out of touch. Even ignoring the limitations of the engine, wow is fundamentally in a funk.
They're very much aware of the state of the retail version of the game, hell half of Forever's marketing is
>This is the true wow, not bogged down by the age and endless lore of retail!
It's just a sheer refusal to take any risk and actually do something properly new. Since WoW's released there's been 4 new era's of Diablo and Starcraft's already moving past the Starcraft 2 era.
Warcraft is the only franchise that's digging it's heels in the dirt and refusing to innovate and rejuvenate itself with something properly new.
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>>583292830
Didn't they add slots with the "verify your Blizz acount" thing? It has probably been like 10 years since then to be fair.
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>>583292114
turning dw into an actual MMO would literally kill every game in the genre...except osrs for the boomers/bots
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>>583293209
It doesn't need to kill OSRS, it really needs to just be its own thing and gain a new audience/give something new.
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>>583289051
>>583292585
why don't blizzard write actual grimdark/tragic stuff anymore? it's all so sanitized
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>>583293354
Because that'd require them to actually want to write shit involving the Horde and not Alliance Elf girlbosses.
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>>583293354
The earthen dwarf with dementia side questline got me real good in TWW. There's some cherries on this cake of shit still.
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>>583293439
they could do that, they'd just have to commit to killing off Arator

>>583293478
that one was definitely a strong contender for best sidequest in modern WoW
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I don't even want a wow 2 at this point. I just want them to move on from the WC2/WC3/WoW era. I'm so sick and tired of the WC2 and WC3 cast. The Sons of Lothar should've never came back and Jaina should've died in Theramore.
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>>583293061
to be honest, there's a recent trend where gaming companies are pulling old games off the shelf to update them. this is likely the result of an aging gaming community that tends to shit on anything new and loves to glorify whatever makes them feel young again

in blizzard's case, i think they're terrified of running into another "Titan" disaster. wow is the company's primary cash cow, so they don't want to risk the money it brings them without a proper backup plan
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Isn't weird that you have to go out of your way to farm hero crests? Keys lower than 10 are basically dead and you need a ton of crests for new characters.
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>>583294097
Yet they keep tanking the brand. Holly and Ion can claim all they want that they wanna use Forever to get people into the IP again and new players, but that's not gonna do shit when Warcraft has a stank on it anyway from 10+ years of fumbling the IP since Legion. 12 if you wanna go all the way back to WoD.
What was the last time Warcraft was actually objectively popular and people talked about it because it released something new and didn't pander to nostalgia?
The early days of Hearthstone.
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>>583294438
>hero crests
>you need a ton of crests for new characters.
you should've got the discount before spinning up a new one
its only like 250 hero crests
farming through the fucking 700 cap of myth crests is a much bigger issue
you should just get both crests at once, theres no reason for them not to do this
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>>583293936
don't think it's ever going to happen at this point. forever has killed any chance retail had at getting a world revamp/reset. they will likely keep adding random bullshit islands/continents until the game stops being profitable.
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>>583294438
it helps when you get the achievement on your main to cut costs by a lot
but yeah you need to farm a LOT of crests on secondary characters
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>>583294438
you really don't?
I have not put any effort into gathering Hero crests and both on my main and still-leveling alts I randomly cap my Hero crests
just do the weeklies, the vault, the 4 delves, and the 3 preyhunts
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>>583294438
Just max out your mythies and then they get converted to heros. """Just""".
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The amount of years since shadowlands is the same as the amount of years between 2004 launch and Warlords of Draenor. Feeling old yet?
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>>583294447
if we're judging by engagement metrics alone, forever is pulling numbers that retail hasn't seen since shadowlands. the average wow content creator is getting 4 to 5 times the views they used to get with retail content. hell, bellular has been pulling 1m+ views on multiple videos since blizzcon. so yeah, forever might make people forget how blizzard butchered retail for a while, but time will be the real test. i just think forever is going to fall off hard and eventually won't be able to compete with newer mmos.
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>>583293613
Last three expansions have had a trend where the side quests were just outright better than the main campaign.
I'm still partial to the Wenren questline. Only thing in Hallowfall I gave a shit about.
I mean a whodunit mystery isn't all that dark or new, but when they emphasize how excited he is to finally go home and see his cat again, then gets murdered and we have absolutely no followup on going to check on his cat for him, I mean the animal lover in me found that the most upsetting quest of that expansion.
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the new diablo 4 expansion, forever, and the new wc3 campaign have shown that blizzard can still write decent (or at least serviceable) stories. i think blizzard has just gotten lazy and completely checked out of retail wow.
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>>583295953
Microsoft needs to cut the hags writing for retail.
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Oh no no no no. Forever sisters, this is your questing experience???
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>>583297174
>mankrik
>krik
>kirk
Oh I see
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draenei are so hot
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>>583297174
Meanwhile in retail Mankrik went on a quillboar killing spree which made a shamaness take interest in him and help him move on by tripping on sapta and banging while high.
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Trying to understand how to play WoW in chronological order hurts my brains
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>>583297174
>*becomes a legendary necrolord gladiator*
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>>583298057
It's... not even a little complex...
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>>583298057
?

just follow the expansion release order
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>Azshara is still out there and not ruined by modern writing
A blessing and a curse to not see her in the game anymore.
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>>583298156
>>583298208

K, explain to me then how the fuck do i start the story when it starts with doing all Eastern Kingdom and Kalimdor in WoW classic and then move to modern WoW, recreate the same character to do TBC and WOTLK and then, oops! entire remake of EK and Kalimdor so you again have to do all zones with all NPCs treating you as a retard who is just learning to fight.

Fucking orc starting zone says you're "coming of age", the character who defeated the Lich King and Illidan is coming of age and learning to fight? And then after you're done with all zone remakes you actually do the new zones? Ahh but since in Modern wow all quests are funky or tons of shit like battle for undercity was removed, in quests like "Death knights are joining the alliance for the first time, speak to Turalyon!" who wasn't even fucking around because for some reason they removed all traces of WOTLK Varian from the game.

And if i ignore WoW classic so it doesn't cause messy story issues then i'm basically playing Cataclysm, seeing draenei, worgen, blood elves, etc. and mentions of how Lich King and Illidan were defeated.... only to actually do that story afterwards.

It makes no sense, there's no proper chronology there.
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>>583297987
>retail won
tf
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>>583298349
>*gets replaced by footfetishmommy*
She even uses the same sultry voice direction
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>>583298541
autism

but yeah the retail story starts at cata which is when they overhauled the starting zones
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>>583284420
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>>583297174
>>583298612
truly a better man
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>>583298720
pretty..........
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>>583298660
I like feet and I'm still an Azshara simp.
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>>583298671

Then i'm missing the WoW vanilla, tbc and wotlk story. And i don't wanna make a new character specially when story wise you're the same one all along if you do human heritage you're shown there killing Onyxia, in Shadowlands there's mentions you killed the Lich King.

I can't simulataneosly be a "Brand new freshly 18 year old adventurer" in Cataclysm who did stuff before Cataclysm but is also learning to fight just now and it's inasne to have to play an entire different game first for the vanilla story and then move to modern wow.

And you guys say "it's not complicated!" like it's not complicated doing Cataclysm and seeing Varian randomly be replaced by Legion model Anduin.
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elves are so hot
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>>583297174
I was trying to understand how could a Human Male have married an Orc during WoW classic story until i realized that's an orc woman and not a human male. Funny.
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>>583298981
Draenei women are so hot
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ATTENTION
kill yourselves avatarfagging furtroons
that will be all
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>>583299671
Based. kill all porn addicts.
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>>583299671
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>Be me
>Azshara simp
>Also Xally simp
>Also Whitemane simp
>Also also Yrel simp
Yeah what about it
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>>583300058
but how do you feel about sneed?
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>>583300115
This is a Bane household.
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>>583300216
true
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Kiss femorcs.
Kiss femtrolls.
Kiss femworgs.
Kiss fempandas.

Kill all elves.
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When are we getting the Evoker Class Order Hall?
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>>583300704
legion remix
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>>583300216
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wow forever is actually ass and i've been playing mmos for 23 years
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>mfw since i'm currently living with my mom but working a full time job with no debt i can actually justify paying for a year's sub of wow without sweating it
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>>583300704
We already have it. You can enter through Alexstrasza's ass.
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>>583301157
damn ultra necromza grew some serious milkers
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>living with my mom but working a full time job
you just described everyone in current year anon
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damn y'all got dookie lives bro maybe log off and fix that first before afking in group finder for 2 hours a day haha
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the hard way out
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>>583301493
Living with parents and having a job is the cheat code to living comfortably and mostly stress free. To not do so is.. Suicide.
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I work at my mom's business but I have my own place.
Living with your parents past a certain age is psychological torture.
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>>583301997
it is, if you actually care about your future. people somehow are ok with this as if inflation isn't gonna eat their ass
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>>583298981
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pro tip: if you wanna buy cheap, sell!
this works particularly well if you wanna bulk buy cheap things like fish
buy 5 or so and list them for 5% cheaper, then as soon as someone adds to it or undercuts, cancel the listing and repeat
I've actually saved thousands of gold by doing this for just 5 or 10 minutes before bulk buying because there's always some dummy that dumps his 300+ stack on the current lowest price without looking at the other listings
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>>583298057
>>583298864
You're not wrong, it is pretty convoluted.
If you're already familiar with the universe and don't want to play through multiple versions of the game, then play retail and start leveling through the TBC zones at level 10. Then go to Wrath, then Cata and so on. It's the best you can do. A surprisingly large amount of Vanilla's story doesn't really matter to the overall lore or just straight up isn't canon anymore.
If you really don't want to touch Cataclysm until Cata actually happens, play through the Draenei/Blood Elf starting areas, then head over to Outland once you're done.
There's not really anything you can do about certain NPCs like faction leaders appearing out of place unfortunately.
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Hang in there retail bros. We got this. Retail will win in the end.

https://files.catbox.moe/i63p0j.mp3
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>>583301997
Your parents must be really bad then idk man. I can't imagine not living with my parents i'm eternally youthful.
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>>583302951
i was never in doubt.
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>>583301970
this is how shadowlands 9.1 should have really ended
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>>583301970
she's a jumper and she failed once already
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>>583298864
to be perfectly honest, vanilla and tbc didn't really have stories. There was no single campaign-style quest that followed you through the entire experience. You just sort of meandered around between zones, experiencing the story of that specific zone. Sometimes those stories reached out into other zones, but not often.

The closest thing to a main story in vanilla wow is alliance only with the level 1 human zone with defias brotherhood -> onyxia line. Even that is broken up into various areas, quests don't lead directly to one another, and you mostly have to put together the greater story yourself.

I'm also pretty sure it is impossible to experience in its entirety right now, at least in retail. Your best bet is to go make a classic character, or wait until forever, then after finishing everything you wanted to do, jump back to retail and pretend your retail character is that same classic/forever character.

And yes, it is a complicated mess. Fixing onboarding and making the main story playable is probably one of the main reasons they're doing forever to begin with. I'm willing to bet that even after forever expansions come out, they'll try to keep the new player experience clean and as close to it was at launch as possible.
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>>583303994
Neither did wrath cata or mop or legion or bfa or shadowlands if you think about it
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>>583302951
>>583303191
When Fagever refugees come back here we must scuttle their ships in the seas!
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>>583304115
That's true, but they had a general forward momentum to them. Vanilla wow was just like "here's a world. have fun."
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I wish I still had my mom to live with. She died on the day patch 5.3 came out.
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>>583303097
It has nothing to do with good or bad parents, you need your own spaces for your own sake.
The freedom to go out and come back to your own home whenever you want, the freedom to take a girl home, to invite your friends for a drink at night and be as loud as you want without bothering anyone.
That aside, you need to learn how to manage the household by yourself without your parents taking care of things.
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>log in for the first time since legion
um
what the fuck does my level 10 hunter think she's doing?
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>>583289882
Knotted.
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>>583304184
except the vanilla world is anything but fun
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We're all gonna make it retail bros.

https://files.catbox.moe/6l34xu.mp3
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>>583302951
a toast to wowowawa!
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>>583304586
>to take a girl home
My parents would love that lol they'd give her housing if anything most parents are sad that's not the case. Yours dont? it's extra support
>to invite your friends
Mine doesn't mind and my friends live with their parents too?
>drink
I don't drink nor smoke and this shouldn't be a problem?
>be as loud as you want without bothering anyone.
What are you doing exactly where this becomes a problem? isn't for me
>That aside, you need to learn how to manage the household by yourself without your parents taking care of things.
I already do that i'm a OCD clean freak and so does my sister. We all clean the house it's so much more efficient.

You're not making sense though, might just be parent difference desu.
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Why is the guy who has you throw mugs at a robot still there if the Dark Iron haven't invaded Brewfest in years?
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>>583303994
>jump back to retail and pretend your retail character is that same classic/forever character.

That's what i was gonna do but it's retarded to have defeated Ragnaros, Onyxia, Illidan, LIch kING, and then you do the Cataclysm remade zones and everyone is "wow a new adventurer lvl 1! this is your coming of age trial".
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I miss him...
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>>583306856
use a level boost
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>>583306318
Alright so why are you replying to a generalistic post when you're the exception. Good for you but most people would rather have some privacy in their house.
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I want to feel a male tauren dragging his balls across my Orc's face
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>>583307116
God I'm so weak for Tauren...
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>>583291810
People still bitching about Green Jesus is beyond comical like we haven't had two expansions back to back revolve entirely around the angst of Alliance heroes
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t dubs was bussin fr
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>>583306318
I mean, sure i know i'm the 'exception' in a lot of ways but it's not that radical as far as 'freedom' goes, my friend's parents are just as accepting as mine for the reasons you gave and some of them are kinda mean.
Honestly it must be a generation thing, you're obviously Millennial(you said you drink) meaning you have boomer parents, mine are GenX and most GenX parents are fun like that.
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>>583307479
green jesus was barely a thing in scata too
>oh but that 1 cutscene in deepholme and that short level 85 questline that was more about aggra
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>>583307650
Meant to rely to >>583307096 oops
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>>583307040
> Use a level boost to skip the story in the game you want to experience the story in chronological order

???????
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i want to feel a female draenei dragging her balls across my face
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>>583307554
yea
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It's cute I guess.
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>>583307479
>around the angst of Alliance heroes

So we have to put up with 3 Sylvanas focused expansions in which she leads the horde to commit a genocide and gets away with everything but none of that is Horde centric, certainly not the expensive sad Orc cinematics, because Sylvanas uhh "Betrayed the horde so she doesn't count".

But having focus on Anduin who betrayed the alliance and abandoned his kingdom is "alliance content"?
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Disney status?
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>>583308036
it doesn't complete quests, does it? you can just go chromie time to legion or whatever you want to do
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>>583308074
haters were still shittin they diapers when he was playing gabario
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>you now 'member da bear incident
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>>583307284
Elaborate.
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>>583308537
Some races exude sex to the degree it implants sexual imagery non-consensually into my mind
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>>583308223
>you can just go chromie time to legion or whatever you want to do

Which part of "playing in chronological order" is hard to understand and how a lvl 80 doing the level 1 starting quest of Elwynn Forest treating you like a new lvl 1 recruit who's just grabbing a sword makes sense?
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>>583308305
they aint even an atario
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>>583308674
Hot.
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>>583308698
>jump back to retail and pretend your retail character is that same classic/forever character.
>pretend
you're going to have to use your imagination at some point if you wan to do this
otherwise fuck off and find a different game to play
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>>583308674
bipedal cows do that for you?
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You guys ok? man you have been taking a beating these last few months. Sucks to see our old rival this defeated.
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https://youtu.be/JTLbzTW1iLw
Retoilet status?
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>>583298541
Cataclysm revamping old zones pretty much erased most of the story that was there, or just redid them again. Even if you did Classic for the original zones and went back in Retail for their Cata versions plenty of zones are just gonna have you do them again.
Other times zones were re-written altogether to have just ignored how things played out before. Like Teldrassil has that one Satyr early on tricking you to getting him some shit and a Sentinel tells you to go get him some stuff to fool him and turn him into a frog. Before it just ended there. Now it continues to him traveling to Darkshore and you just gotta kill him.

You're better off just accepting vanilla zone stories were changed or don't exist anymore, cause chances are they're just gonna have you do the same thing. There's no smooth transition of them to Outland and Northrend or whatever, you're deciding yourself when you go, and those guys will praise the tits out of you regardless for being a super cool hero guy.
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>>583309434
Yes. Towering muscular virile bull men do it for me.
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>picked a main
already mazies, watch out here I come to the top of the leaderboard
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>>583309654
seeing the money we pay being used to make other better products instead of making our product better
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>>583308068
just install virt a mate anon
although you won't feel shit
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I genuinely can't stand a good 90% of people I meet
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I'm not gonna buy a WoW suscription until i can be a Human Shaman.
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>>583310313
ugh it's giving bad vibes
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>>583310232
I yearn for the day of brain implants that can send sensations directly into your nerve system
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>>583310440
Just play a fat human.
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You got a frost dk and a bm hunter signed up for your key. Same ilvl, same io.
Which you taking?
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>>583310641
depends on the rest of the party
if we have enough kicks I'm always taking ranged
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>making my rounds for rare spawn pets for taming on my hunter
>Go for one of the xereth mortis beasts
>Spawn it
>Rogue just one shots it and runs away
Suffering.
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>>583310641
frost dk
i hate taking ranged players, they dont know how to position
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>>583310641
BM hunter is a coinflip between the worst player alive and decently competent
frost DKs usually have better baseline and higher highs + easier to pug with because they are bullshit tanky
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>>583310603

Fat people are not human.
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>>583311110
Guys are fat strong, women are fat fat
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>>583310641
fdk every day of the week unless i don't have lust already in which case they're not up for consideration in the first place
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I missed you guys, 4chan blocked my cellphone for some reason
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kul tiran women are kinda cute ngl
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>>583311246
where did you go
2 years ago my cellphone was always range banned
now its my home connection
really pisses me off
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>>583311342
nowhere its a new phone
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>>583311268
eh
i like fatties but not those kind of fatties
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>>583311449
oh
well why wouldn't you just post on the pc
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>>583311592
bed posting
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What are the most based races for hunter on either faction?
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which character do you see and just think, “rape”?
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>>583312430
Valeera
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>>583312259
dwarf for alliance
goblin for horde
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>>583312259
Dorf.
Troll/Gobbo/Zandalari
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>>583249385
I'm trying to get some irl people to play world of warcraft forever together. Mostly people I work with. Was I wrong for trying to persuade and include an 18 year old girl I work with to give it a try. I'm in my mid 30s lol and the other guys I was trying to get to play are in their 30s too. She seems keen to play and said she will be down and has been researching the class and race she wants to play. She's the youngest in the workplace and her parents drop her off and pick her up
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>>583312430

WoW Classic Anduin
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>>583312430
kiro (he's on top)
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>>583312430
that si:7 gnome girl that wanted to fuck your character during the 20th anniversary event
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>>583313000
qrd and checked
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>>583313273
my bad, it wasn't si:7
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>>583313423
holy based
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>>583312430
any fem vulpera showing their tummys
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>>583312748
>Was I wrong for trying to persuade and include an 18 year old girl
did someone give you shit for it or what
its not like you asked her to the parking lot for a quick fuck, like not even close to that so idk where you even come to the conclusion you did so
its not far removed from a company fantasy football league
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do I still need to wait for the inflation to get all the pros out of my bracket or should I start now
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>>583312748
Americans are so weird about age gaps lol.
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Can't decide if I want a nightborne warrior or mage. Amy advice?
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>>583312430
white femworgs
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>people are finally getting my driver timeout issue
>it's something that people only get on forever, i've been getting this issue for months
>the setting people changed on forever to fix driver timeouts doesn't exist on retail
ASODKNHGASJHOASJHWEHESH
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>>583289051
It's up to you to commission it. You guys have the money for subs and expensive expansions and beta access to spin-off games, surely you can find a $100 for a Skeb commission.
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now that eredar are on the alliance side, we might as well just go all out and let demons join the horde
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>>583314745
I know someone who commissions a ton of jp/korean artists on skeb for basically peanuts. Definitely look into that.
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>>583314676
haha get owned son, guess you just gonna have to play Forever
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>>583314745
70% of us pay for subs/boxes in gold
id rather learn to draw better anyways
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i dont wanna prog coiled altar anymore
i dont wanna play wow anymore
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I'd play a centaur
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is it fine to start applying to guild before my guild finishes prog?
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im so bad at this game i will never raid at hof level
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okay but what if orcs
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>>583318637
Made for tauren men.
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>>583317995
>Centaur get to just walk around with their big donut buttholes out
It's not fair
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>>583318637
I would tongue bathe a female Orc's stinky pits
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>fat faggot Musei still playing OSRS
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>>583318637
Beautiful green goddesses.
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>>583318982
it can always be worse
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>>583317995
Musky centaur assholes winking back at the party in every dungeon
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halloween befl
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>>583319745
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>>583315013
I've commissioned heaps of art for my gacha generals. I'm not sure about doing it here since there is toleration of AI images.
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Hyjal looks better than any retail zone in years since maybe BFA.

Wtf
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halloween draenei
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>>583319189
i can't believe stoopz and savix just fucked us and left us to die
fucking bullshit man
they are niggers
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>>583320558
stoolz completely pivoted towards horrible korean garbage ever since lost ark came out

what's savix even doing nowadays?
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>>583320482
It just looks like a Cata zone
Which is all it is. Forever is just Cata 2.
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>>583320691
>what's savix even doing nowadays?
classic grifter
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https://youtu.be/YRX6IQsWfnc

I'm still laughing.
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>>583320879
I will never understand this "respect your time" meme
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>>583320879
Hasn't he made this video 2 other times now?
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>>583320879
Honing was in the game from launch and you're retarded enough to say the game respects your time?
I hope he was getting paid good to spit that much bullshit.
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>>583321059
He makes this video for whatever game he's currently shilling.
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>>583321170
Busy guy
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>>583321058
it's a meaningless buzzword people used to parrot to dunk on wow when we had borrowed power every patch
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>>583321109
He was doing it FOR FREE. Probably desperate to become THE lost ark guy like asmon used to be for wow.
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halloween sylvanas
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>>583321926
My pretty wife
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>>583291810
>alliance niggers still postings this unironically
Literally multiple xpacks of your shitty faction getting the spotlight and ironically they are also the worst expansions in the game
>BUT WOD
unfinished doesnt count.
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>>583320879
>kmmos
>respecting anything outside of the player's dick
yeah right
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best villain we've ever had btw
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i think mega delves will probably be disappointing but im gonna try them!
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>>583324170
only if they dont reward hero track + myth vault
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>>583324696
regular delves award hero track, why wouldn't these lol
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>>583324956
*once a week
**with a map
***and 2 months later after you no longer need hero track
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>>583325121
goalposts moving award
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>>583325264
>no argument
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playin pservers to scratch the itch till forever but i realized i fuckin hate pservers because a 3rd of it is jaja third worlders and its the most alienating experience ever.
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>>583321058
here's an achievement that awards a title in ffxiv that doesn't respect your time. shit like this is usually what people mean
>do meaningless task for 300 hours to get something that nobody will ever notice
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still didn't get my beta code from opting in
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>globofomo called it for the season because we can't do p3 on ulatek
>tfw don't have time to pug it
>still need 6 pieces off ulatek
see you guys in forever
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okay, but what if elfs
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>>583325936
OG has legitimately the worst achievement system I've ever seen. The rewards are trash and the objectives are even worse. WoW's is miraculously good by comparison.
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>getting hots matches in like a minute now when it used to take forever before the xalatoes patch
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>>583326667
fun innit.
didn't they say they had one more new hero on the docket, plus more if these two do sufficiently well? wonder who it'll be
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>>583326909
Arator or Liadrin of course
The shilling must continue
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>>583327085
let an old man have his dream
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>even rwf sweats that "love" the gameplay of retail are now quitting en masse to play forever
genuinely how much more over can it get
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>>583326105
Elves should never be fat
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>>583320482
That thumbnail looks like AI trying to make a screenshot look slightly more detailed.
Can people even get to the zone in Forever yet? Does it look like that.
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>>583327714
you, know, virtually everyone agrees that an occasional change of scenery is nice. Weve all been doing more or less the same thing in retail for a long time now. Retail has fallen into a very predictable pattern, and this patch in particular is obviously just filler.

I think a LOT of people were initially excited for classic and then lost interest due to "No changes" sperging. Those people are now flocking to forever becasue its delivering on what people hoped classic would do all along.

Which is take the vanilla wow feel and branch in a different direction, not following the path retail took.
I have no intention at all of quitting retail but I am 100% gonna play Forever, probably forever.

I often have had to urge to make an alt on classic but stopped myself from doing it cus, Old models, No transmog and the knowledge that "Classic" was always a mode with no future, doomed to either just slowly creep towards being retail2 or just stop somewhere and stagnate. As long as the no changes crowd had control of classic, classic was a lost cause and waste of time.
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>>583328284
why are you replying to the laziest bait ever posted
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>>583328561
>blizzard literally building a replacement for this version of the game in real time and getting tons of praise for doing so
>"hey isnt that kind of worrying"
>"no you're baitposting"
retard.
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>>583328561
one way to deal with bait, concern and doom posters is to treat them literally and refute them at length, not for their benefit, because obviously they are trolling, but for the benefit of whoever may be lurking. If you simply leave persistent troll posts to stand unchallenged some people will begin to take them as truth and repeat them.

obviously youre never going to convert the troll, but you might save someone else from being taken by his bullshit.
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remember pepe? blizz thought this will go viral
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>>583328679
it is plainly obvious that Forever is meant to fully replace "classic" it is what classic always should have been. ERA+

It is meant to complement retail, not compete with it, because it offers a thematically similar but mechanically completely different game.
To suggest that retail is in trouble because of forever IS baiting. Its the sort of bait a nervous classic andy would throw.
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>>583327085
I reckon it'll be a Diablo character, they have more than one franchise to shill after all.
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>>583329018
Forever didn't even have the vanilla models until the streamers shown it told the Devs people would hate playing vanilla with it's disney retail pedo art style shoved on them
Forever was made for retail to start the story over because they've hit a brick wall after raping the lore for twenty years and to try and trick classic players into playing it with the shallowest pandering possible
Retail is such fanfiction they're pulling sub-saharan african characters out of their ass and trying to tie them to white male characters, implying there's an african continent somewhere and daddy did some raping
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>>583329842
Ok so you pay no attention to the lore at all but still try to have an opinion about it.

The other continent is long rumored.
The empire there grew from an arathi colony, not made by daddy but made by an expedition of religious fanatics literally like 2000 years ago.

"Faerin Lothar" has no meaningful relation to Anduin Lothar. Like they have less blood in common than the OG German weeaboo I am related to who basically spent his whole life chasing sideways jap pussy in the mid 1800s.

People saying theyre supposed to be "cousins" or w/e are literally not reading the lore for the arathi empire, that split occurred right after the troll wars when humanity first learned magic and there has been ZERO contact since.

And saying they are out of lore is again, ignorant. That Arathi Empire is very obviously going to be our next big antagonist after TLT and LightbadTitansevil.

If we are lucky they are gonna open that with an Azeroth reshaping invasion by the arathi empire that has them unfucking all the zones ruined by cataclysm and using them as new quest zones.

We know that a level squish is coming after tlt, which will have us at 100 again. It is likely that the Arathi intro expansion will have us back to 60 again and then we will 70-80-90-100 again doing Arathi things over a few expansions.

When metzen first came back ons tage announcing the whole "saga" thing he said outright that they had "Another 20 years worth of expansions planned"
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>>583330510
this is why they made forever, out of embarrassment
the humiliation became so great, it was too much to bear, even for the most devoted of cvckholds serving the hamfisted politically correct cult
they actually did it, they hit peak shame
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>hit 90
>scoop up delve/prey gear
>join normal pug
>gapping people 10-20 ilvl higher than me
Is this the Dracthyr superiority I keep hearing about?
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Goddamn Red Dragons stealing the Green Dragons schtick now...
I want a Greenie in my neighbourhood, not this red cunt!
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What a sad piece of shit game
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It's retarded that we have to wait until next year for the transmog changes
That shit is 100% just a switch to flip on their end to enable
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>>583331068
are you dragon your nuts across the room
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>>583331132
>"God I wish I could stop thinking about the game constantly and move on!"
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>>583331413
Dragon my sack across the entire raid.
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>Anduin used to have a ponytail
>Devs later give him a buzzcut and beard
You just know this was around the time WoW lost the art team as it was still somewhat there in BfA and Shadowlands.
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>>583332062
an extremely hamfisted attempt at making people stop calling him a sissy
he looked great from legion to shadowlands and now he looks fucking horrible
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god i wish i were my dracthyr
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>level a new character after 1 billion years
>wandering isles
>one of the apes does attack called "hozen shock" that takes 40% hp away
lmao
funny, i assume scaling fuck ups
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>>583326398
current patch is kinda starting to go the same way. they expected us to do 300 funny coiled isle assaults for a recolor snake and we got like 30 sub 1% drops this expansion
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>>583333304
NTA
OG has this problem where it has grind shit but its for stuff that no normal person wants to do (like big fishing)
Which is weird cause even with their jank ass movement and combat system that feels shit they manage to imo do better content isles then WoW for the past expansions. Like even the crafter moon zones blows imo stuff like coiled isle

Its just the rewards are often shit because the gear is scuffed in this game, is kinda weird desu i cant put my finger on it and i dont know why they dont capitalize on it, its clearly the best content in that game beside the raids and story
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>>583333162
The world is so empty and neglected, you can find a lot of funny shit like that out in the wild.
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>>583333642
I mean sure wow is a fucking big game but i would assumed blizzard would catch that in a starting zone giving most new player experience it, and not some fuck ass quest in the deep end quest line chain of northrend
Whatever it just funny to me
>>583333553
Coiled isle is one of the worst zones they put out
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>>583332271
I like how he went from Brad Pitt to Shia Labouffalant
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>>583331068
As a new player, I hit 90 and did Nightmare Preys for two weeks and each Bountiful Delve once each only for the achievement and I'm ilvl 301 for almost no effort. Feels pretty good given that I have no interest in antrying Mythic.
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HERE'S LOOKIN AT ME BUM
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12.1.5 about to flop so hard that they're gonna stop doing .5 patches
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>>583335069
>comes out during one of the worst patches in the most mid expansion
>comes out just a few weeks before wow2
>its just more fucking invasionslop
>its not even new mobs invasionslop
they've lost their fucking minds
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>>583335069
When has any .5 been a 'success'?
We all know what they are.
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Return to letter revisions

3.3.5a
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i cant force myself to do m+ i give up
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoJof59hwBo
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>>583336834
I got so bored trying to do M+ that I was literally falling asleep mid-run sometimes and I hated it more than anything I've ever hated.
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Is the next expansion going to be the end of the game? Is it even worth trying to get into it now?
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Shit game
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>>583333753
>blizzard would catch that in a starting zone giving most new player experience it
They don't give a fuck about the old starting zones they try to funnel everyone into the "new player experience"
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>traveler's log is empty
it's over
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>>583337958
I finished this day 1, not my problem
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>>583333753
>>583337483
It's insane how shit the new player experience is. They force you to stop running Dragonflight or whatever expansion you choose at level 70, but just doing the Dalaran teleport quests gets you almost all the way to level 80 so you are just thrown into the sequel expansion with no idea what's going on from TWW. You don't even get to finish Dragonflight even if you started at level 10, you'll be lucky to get two zones. And they changed the Earthen unlock requirements so you have to do a bunch of zone quests in addition to the full TWW story. I'm doing them right now on my alt, it feels pretty shitty to stop my levelling experience just to experience an expac I already missed because my main went from 70 to 80 just doing the earlier allied races quests. And there's all sorts of bugs. Half the required questgivers don't appear unless you spend hours poring over comments on Wowhead. All this for an ugly dwarf reskin with bearded ladies and to learn the story of an expansion which is assumed knowledge for current content.
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I hope 12.1.5 isn't a buggy mess
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>>583338541
Are you going for fabled slayer?
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>>583338541
>enters in buggy mess factory
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as a world of warcraft player i feel so awful i can't convey it with words
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>>583326064
>The doomposting is coming from inside the house

Can't fool me, you German import shitter.

Go back to your own brown-filled country.
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>>583338541
The "farm 10 fragments" item upgrades won't drop/upgrade properly.
The recrafting bug where your item is lost will be reintroduced yet again.
Kithix will be broken one way or another.
Assault events will require infinite effort in comparison to the rewards they offer and won't be worth it when delves exist.
The labyrinth will have some bullshit bug at the end so your hour-long run is invalidated.
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>>583326064
This is why I'm giving up on my alt. Fuck pugging that shit.
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>>583260678
>What is it about Midnight that people are just not feeling?
I dislike how most classes and specs feel now.
It feels like your buttons have less impact.
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>>583260678
It's mainly the story. People always try to downplay how important the world and narrative is in the world of warcraft because at the end of the day they'll just spam the maze or go do the raids.
But when you've no enjoyment of the story being told, any feelings for the characters you're being tasked to tard wrangle 24/7, you feel less engaged with everything. Now throw in the fact a lot of the systems, gameplay, etc etc are hold overs from the Legion era that's turned a decade old. People are just done with them, they're old, boring, there needs to be a major new spice. And when the world isn't delivering and you're left with gameplay that desperately needs an injection of life, people just move on.
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>>583340591
>the systems, gameplay, etc etc are hold overs from the Legion era
Basically Ion shouldn't be in charge
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>>583340591
This. I raid CE mythic and eventhough the raids were serviceable in Shadowlands I quit because I just wasn't feeling the story after Denathrius. The dailies didn't help either. And I think that's how M+ feels now that it's almost completely useless for my vault. Like fucking dailies.
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>>583340591
As far as the world concerned, it really only exists if you're playing an Alliance Elf at this point. That's what the modern game feels like it's being made for. People who are fans of Void Elves and Night Elves.
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this writing isnt real i refuse to believe it
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>>583340591
The game is too bloated. It needs a reset, they need to pull some timewarping shit to get rid of all the irrelevant zones that have built up over the expansions and start from scratch.
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>>583341160
They needed to make WoW2, but they decided Classic+ was the safer bet which tells you all you need to know about the current people in charge of the IP.
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>>583341142
But it is real
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>>583340591
The story is shit, the classes are megashit after the pruning/lobotomization, the raid is shit, the dungeons are shit, the world engagementslop is shit and the gearing system went full retard. We keep getting these half-assed things like invasions, abyss anglers, decor duel etc that honestly have potential but end up in the abandonware pile because these guys have to pump out something novel every 8-16 weeks and have no time to polish anything. It's gotten to the point where my guild started raidlogging already (many are waiting for Forever) so I'll log in and be the only person online or one of a couple. Even the most diehard wow fanatics in my guild are barely logging in anymore and we are just halfway into the patch.
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>>583340363
Agree with this, I don't mind the story but every class feels shitty to play.
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>>583341160
>>583341224
They probably didn't have time to create WoW2 due to a lack of time. Microsoft bought Blizzard in 2023 and expansions take about five to six years to develop as far as I know. This could explain why they created the Worldsoul Saga, an expansion split into three parts and why these expansions seem to lack features and content. They only had a few years to come up with something so their best shot was "Forever" which features the best of the classic and retail versions.
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leveling shaman for 6 months
surely one day..
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>>583340591
Playing on a legion private server right now. Legion was better. M+ with affixes was better. Legendarys were better. Titanforging was awesome. I honestly can't wait to play BFA on a private server.
The fact is, blizzard stopped classic before it got to legion because it would have exposed how shitty modern retail is.
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>>583341160
>Xally wins in the 12.2 raid
>sucks everything into a black hole
>fade to black
>wake up on the floor in a gross, purple area
>blurry vision
>"Such misplaced zeal... your eyes were closed to the true path."
>it's N'zoth's arena in 8.3
>cut to Magni
>"CHEMPIONS! I THOUGHT I HAD LOST YE! USE YER HEART OF AZEROF TO BLAST 'IM!"
>cut to diaper gnome player character looking at Magni, then at N'zoth, then at Magni again
>"Ch-chempiohn?!"
>player raises the heart and blasts the shitty dwarf
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>>583341978
Based.
I will forever be N'Zoth's Chosen.
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>>583341978
Just give up, they will never do this "it was just a dream" fantasy of yours
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>>583341687
>"Forever" which features the best of the classic and retail versions.
Forever is good but much closer to Classic than retail, by design. I think Retails combat is much better, and obviously has a lot of good design changes over the years along with the shitty ones like Raid Finder. A reboot where you get to start from scratch with the current way the classes work and get to build your way back up would be cool. It would give them a chance to clear away all the bad design thats accumulated and keep the good things, and change it back to being more prosocial in design
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>>583342129
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Imagine bros.. A world of warcraft focused on all the best parts of each great expansion.
The Class Design of MoP...
The storytelling of MoP...
The worldbuilding of MoP...
The gameplay of MoP..
The music of MoP....
Holly should've made MoP2.
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In retrospect, do you think dragon/skyriding was a bad idea?
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>>583342645
No (I like Spyro).
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>>583342645
Yes. It added nothing and just made the zones bigger for no gain
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>>583342632
MOP was my first expansion and my favorite as well.
My main was a warlock and I played every class. I didn't know how good I had it.
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>>583342645
Not really but the genie was already out of the bottle and standard flying was more convenient. If flying always worked that way it would've been better.
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>>583288975
i look like this btw
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>>583342645
Nah, Dragon riding's fine. The core problem is that like every gimmick idea they have they completely stop supporting it after 1-2 expansions. Now it's just the default flying with no new content being made to take advantage of it.
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>>583342645
Yes, I don't use it and end up falling heaps behind my group.
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>>583342645
Yea, makes world feel incredibly small
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I am the alpha of the Duskwood pack. You think I earned this spot through my lack of observational skills? You think I don't know you have your hands between your bountiful thighs you little slut? Flicking your bean as I rail your tight pussy? I know and don't care. Your cunt is my toy. I'll fill you full of spunk any time I so desire whether you're ready or not. So play with yourself all you want you will be left dripping with my seed. When I deign to I will knot you and you will bare my pups. Therefore a load I deposit into you is a load for Gilneas. Be wary, for, in spite of that sentiment, it is not out of patriotism that I have sex with you - in which case you could reason that I would be rather consistent in my expectations of the frequency and nature of the sex we have, as a reflection of my unwavering love for Gilneas; instead, it is for personal sexual gratification, as you are the object of my desire, and I will fuck you until I am done each time. So prepare yourself, my bitch, as you will submit yourself to me or suffer the consequences. You will submit yourself physically, by allowing me free access to your dripping pussy, and emotionally, by merely allowing yourself to be dominated, and spiritually, by not praying to idols or displaying religious symbolism during our sex acts. Whether or not you enjoy any of these aforementioned three aspects of your submission is irrelevant.
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>>583343784
dude is knotting patchwerk and thinking he'll get pups lmao
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>>583343784
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Post elf ass and feet, I need to cum
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elf ass and feet, I need to cum
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ass and feet, I need to cum
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>>583341535
Resto shaman is my main and I still don't understand why they removed healing surge from only resto meanwhile pally for example keeps holy light and flash of light. They took away cloudburst totem which you didn't have to use if you didn't want to but let you plan around damage patterns, made ascendance and healing tide totem share a node and removed a bunch of other stuff too. Other classes had Shadowlands things baked into their tree like druid with convoke or swarm before they killed it but we got nothing even though vesper totem and chain harvest were really cool. Feels so empty after TWW and I truly regret not playing it more before it got so lame.
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>>583345028
My resto shaman friend quit after DF and never came back because of these changes.
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>>583345028
Yeah having only SLT and HTT as your big abilities fucking sucks.
If someone fucks up and you have to use one and it fucks up a future pull it feels so shitty.
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>>583345028
skill issue
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>>583344664
>>583344838
>>583344897
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>>583312430
Li li stormstout from mop
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>>583312430
Garona. How ever the Alliance got away with what they did to her I'll never understand.
The entire Wrynn Family needs to be investigated for their connections to Medivh and his tower.
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>>583312430
Onyxia (with track dragonkin blackmail).
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>>583312430
The Brill inkeeper
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i came to a conclusion that everything post bfa or even legion just isn't warcraft
i just dont feel it
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>>583346336
Legion wasn't even considered feeling like Warcraft when it originally got revealed either.
People were taking the piss out of the space ships for feeling too Starcrafty
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>>583346336
They went overboard with epic powerscaling to rinse the bad taste WoD left in peoples' mouths. TLT will do the same thing to make people forget Midnight. Ironically, it will once again involve Illidan and The Sword. A flat fucking circle.
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it's gobby gob world out there
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>>583346906
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>>583346906
gob armpits nnnngh
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https://youtu.be/v3MzSnQgcg0
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>>583348142
Oh no no no no no
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There's a surprisingly low amount of halfbreeds in this game.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoJof59hwBo


yeah, im playing forever
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>>583348401
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sX3lsLiPS2s
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>>583345489
cute f-list profile
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>>583348142
but why?
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my grandma overraped my ass
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>>583348938
Tell her to stop DPS or you'll enrage.
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>>583345134
What they did with the talent trees was insane. Having all of my totems taken away and then put in a tree where I have to pick between tremor and poison cleanse or root vs reduced stun totem CD and such is so stupid. Also they removed earthwall and ancestral protection totem... It's weird knowing I could probably go on one of the classic servers and have more abilities and totems than I do now.
>>583345220
It's really not great. Shaman is being propped up in dungeons only because phys comp really wants windfury, otherwise healing is pretty ass.
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My friend Pudding Tits said Forever will fail.
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Ah yes.
Relaxing.
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>>583349960
Do clankers even know how to relax?
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>>583350228
You 290 ilvl or something? My 310 druid with no r.io connection to my main got in no problem.
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>>583350323
301..
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>>583260678
TWW was just a shittier Dragonflight, Midnight is a shitter TWW. Every new feature (housing, prey, apex talents) flopped, the world is disjointed and unfinished, the addon apocalypse was a disaster that accomplished none of its goals, the spec simplification has killed half the specs in the game, and this season the bonus roll & raid gear situation has resulted in the fastest M+ die-off of all time.
For all of DF and TWW I was playing half a dozen alts and filling up my vault and enjoyed all of it, now I can barely be bothered to play my main. Nobody is online, it's impossible to get a group together outside of scheduled raid nights and the entire gameplay loop has become:
>log in
>get bonus roll
>spend bonus roll optimally
>log out
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>>583348142
is it finally over?
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>>583350074
They idea of it is probably different.
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>>583348839
He got drunk and had another pity party for himself again, despite nothing bad happening for the day. Typical bullshit he keeps doing when he drinks.
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i had to buy my yearly hair loss treatment instead of forever preorder
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>>583346814
It won't work the second time. People ate up Legion because it was fixing the complaints people had about Illidan in TBC, while also bringing back Alleria and Turalyon. Most people over-look the complete waste that was Argus and the Draenei as a whole in that story because of those three.
Who has Last Titan got to bring back and salvage? No one. Who has Last Titan go to bring back as a break class moment? No one. The Sons of Lothar in WoD and Legion were that break glass moment for the Alliance and no likes the characters anymore.
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>>583350591
>TWW was just a shittier Dragonflight
Until MadSeason makes his TWW video this statement is not legal.
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>>583351578
don't worry be happy
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>>583351973
Stop appropriating darkspear sayings, furbag!
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>>583351898
>MadSeason
Brain damaged boomer who hasn't played retail since BFA.
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What is a better way to get champion crests between delves and prey?
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>>583352923
Normal raid is probably the fastest way if you can get into a successful group. But the correct answer is to replace all your champion gear with hero and myth so the crests become irrelevant.
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>>583250249
really? seems weird for darkspear to get that class since zandalari already have paladin, kind of gave them a reason to be played over the OG troll
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>>583352923
3 preys and then full delves. Preys have a decreasing reward quality with each completed prey on a weekly lockout.
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>>583353227
Darkspear are only getting it because Night Elf are getting it.
Night Elf are only getting it because if Forsaken got Paladin before them, the Night Elf fanbase would bitch again.
Forsaken were only getting Paladin because Horde didn't get another DH when Void Elves got it and Forsaken Paladin was supposed to be the trade off/compensation.
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>>583350989
You don't have access to the officer channel
You have zero idea
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>>583353356
Should've gave Blood Elves druid as well tbqh
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forever sisters...
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What is the point of the player housing? I just decorate it?
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>>583354320
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>>583345028
I was also a Resto shaman main and these changes started ruining the class particular from BfA onwards, which is why I quit then. I came back for Shadowlands pledging to find a new main but the expansion was so shit it didn't take. I'm back now and truly I don't hate the current expansion, but I'm trying every class one by one and they all feel like shit. By far the most fun seem to be tank specs, but if I get one of those to max level I'll have to learn the raid fights and I really can't be bothered.
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>>583353356
I fucking hate those lazy bastards for void spec and void elf dh, we should have gotten orc and draenei dh
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>>583354320
Private Goldshire.
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>>583353686
enlighten us
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>>583354554
I don't know any of the people I'm living around though
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>>583353106
I'm going to throw up from so much raiding. Still gotta pug heroic ulatek before reset so I can spend my bonus roll. This is an alt and I've managed to get mostly heroic gear on it, just have a couple of champ items I'm autistically trying to max out to bump my ilvl up a bit so it's easier to get into pugs.
>>583353249
Looks like an 8 minute prey gives me 10 champ crests which isn't bad.
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>>583354772
Yeah but you can invite your RP buddies to your house even if they're not in your neighborhood.
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>>583354550
Was the perfect time to do it. Draenei already got the red skins so half the work for their DH was already done. Hell, they even have their own big demon models since Legion anyway.
Could've given Orcs their red skin finally as well, but eh. Gotta jerk off the pet race Void Elves.
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>>583354719
I never wanted guild master. I've highkey been trying to give it away since TWW S1.
Ale has been here from the beginning and he has proven that he's worthy of the title.
He does fucking everything for this guild and it's about time I passed the torch

Good luck to ya', Alepov. Love you, man
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>>583353882
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>583355004
>I've highkey
niggerspeak
kys
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>>583355004
o7 Foxxo
gl Alepov
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How do I find a good guild that actually does content or are they all cliques now and I missed my chance
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>>583355542
all cliques now
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why is every fucking guild recruiting also pro "lgbtqia+" ??? hwat todes secual oreitentation have to do with fucking skill at a video game i dont want to hold back my views and opinions because some man mentally forfeited his last bit of testestorone to bibisi pr0n in his gooncave and shot his last braincells out after being hxcgroomed by discordtroons that he actually think he is a w0m4n lmao this is fucking retarded just pick the best players and do your best to kill the boss and then the next one and then the next one until you win... its not that hard... fucking failed men are ruining this game i wont be surprised if ion immediately troons out on day 1 of his retirement as that fgt has obviously ben repressing so so hard

anyway if i dont find a guild soon i will also go that rotue probably FUCK
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>>583356139
Guilds put in "inclusive" and then flame Ns and Ts, censored only out of courtesy for the raiders who are streaming.
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Hello /wowg/ how do I actually get into WoW? I never played it growing up and as a geriatric adult I wanted to give it a try. I heard there's private servers and offshoots like WoW forever and a bunch of shit, so I don't actually know what's the best way to play.
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>>583356923
That is not my experience at all.
They put that shit and they mean it.
No one says "Ns" and "Ts" anymore.
Idc if they didn't either.
I just want a normal fuciing guild and being a troon or a lesbian is not normal.
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>>583356964
just get trial account and try retail
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>>583356964
Just play wow forever on november 4 when it launches or if you actually like some kind of challenge in a game and you find that you enjoy dungeons and want to collect absolutely everything you can get your hands on, play retail.

you can demo retail btw, its free up to level 20, no money required at all
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>>583356964
for old school rpg systems and a more casual community oriented gameplay try Forever
for 20+ years of content to collect/experience and a more competitive oriented end game try Retail
try private servers if you want something in between those two
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>>583357304
I find that the higher the world rank the less inclusive they are and the tag is put there as more of a meme and to scare off schizophrenic /pol/tards who fixate on politics too much.
The world 1000 guilds I was in at the start were all ran by GM+GF combos and one was run by a gay Swede, meanwhile 600 and above were just bantering about gay dracthyr and cutting (edge) your dick off. Competitiveness scales with a lack of tolerance and general abrasiveness.
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i'm constantly switching between paladin and dk
and it's ridicilous how much ret is better in this patch
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>>583358004
nice whats your prog this tier?
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>>583356139
I was in a guild for about a week playing with some of their higher geared members since i was at the gearing stage where i could no longer trust pugs.

I'm pretty confident and humorous when I'm drunk. We were all just joshing around, there was obviously a failed asian femboy in the group but he played well and I dont give a fuck really so long as people are playing the game somewhat well.

We wiped once and I (laughing) said something like
>come on guys we're better than this dont make me get the pom poms to cheer us all on next time
over discord. It was something like that. I immediately get a whisper. You dont understand, it was like this was somehow a copy paste whisper macro:
>we aren't all guys here dont say something like that again

It wasn't from the femboy failure. It was from some 48 year old mtf guy. I left a few days later since that femboy kept wanting me to tank and group with him.

I joined a guild later on that was almost 100% female except for one girl's husband and myself. About ~20 active members. That's a drama story for another time tho.
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>>583353882
>2 human females that munch on each other's carpet
>im apparently supposed to be upset at this
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>>583356139
>>583356923
You let them in and welcomed them and then they conquered it.
Now this is their game.

Remember that you voted with your wallet.
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>>583359058
I'm on mythic Altar at the moment, going through P2. Around world 500.
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>>583359313
Soon
>2 human males that eat each others's worms
>im apparently supposed to be upset at this
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>>583359279
good for you! fast leave! i hope that failed man knew it was him

well theres not gonna be another time we're all anons and this thread is a fuck post it right now my nigga!

>>583359352
i dont give a fuck what troons on moon guard do it is irrelevant and does not pertain to me or the game

>>583359438
chud my life into pieces my guild got the forever brainrot so now im looking for a new one asap
well done on your prog! must be nice to have a guild that doesnt give a fuck about forever
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>>583359352
I honest to god cannot stand WrA any more. The server died overnight the moment Alliance got Void Elves. I remember I could get paragraph RP at the snap of my fingers most times of the day in SMC. After the Argus patch there hasn't been a single soul in SMC the occasional times I go there.
When I walked around Org it was just faggot foxes and one line "bar" rp

I play horde sometimes still but I have all my characters, ally and horde, on Moon Guard. Its in my time zone and I'm convinced there will be a horde rp boon on MG at some point.
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rp troons lost
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>>583359635
>i dont give a fuck what troons on moon guard do
I hope you remember this when troonshit starts interfering with your daily gameplay and you can't avoid it
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>>583359986
two more weeks
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>>583339953
damn how do you even get that low
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>>583359986
it hasn't already?
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>>583360610
usually people just do nothing for long periods of time, they just sit there auto attacking not pressing buttons
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>>583360473
classic lil gup
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>>583359635
forever is the new fresh of course everyone will try it out, imagine if they did a retail fresh no cheevo just all fresh with a new expansion timeline
horizontalfagging early on will make it so there's not much to do though, that's when the main wow enters and it's gonna be nice to have two wows to play
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>>583361109
>hardmode is timegated because streamers need content down the line
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>gentlemen, game is dying - what should we do about this?
>What if we release the game... again?
>That's a great idea!
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Empowered Raids - Got By competing raid/Having a character with full set and doing a quest line for the raids legendary weopon and begins quest to spawn a new world boss.
Master Raids - Got by Hunting a boss that spawns across Azeroth.

Old Raid Gear can be harvested for Materals for reward progression.
Powerful food buffs will require breaking down powerful raid gear.
Some Proffesions will require raid gear to make/upgrade
Player housing-
First patch will add Ranger Class. Specs are Elven Ranger, Dark Ranger, Beast Stalker

New zones have an Extreme Weather system. Cold areas will require you to grind rare furs for cold resistance, with 3 new armor slots for weather gear.
You'll need to refine materials at camps and establish supply routes to ship them back to Stormwind/Orgrimmar.

no NPC towns. Players build towns with Inns, Flight Paths, Portals, vendors, etc., all requiring resources to build and maintain.

New Professions: Survival, Ranching, Carpentry, Research. Player built boats coming. Will require all the proffesions at mastery level to build.
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remember this shit?
horde are nagas
they havent changed at all
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>Runescape 4 announced
Uh oh
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Can't wait for passthrough porn mods. My dick is gonna fall off.
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It's actually pretty notable that retail has like 40 gay couples with virtually no lesbians and Forever immediately has a lesbian couple
Games are targeted at different audiences
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>>583328967
>low poly "mascot" that doesnt appear anywhere
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>>583362834
You forget the Incubus quest
https://www.wowhead.com/classic/quest=65601/love-hurts
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>>583363050
The retail devs raped them into implementing it as part of the 9.1.5 humiliation ritual
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>>583357225
Just the visage form looks dumb. They should have just let you have your visage be any race instead of making that ridiculous drag queen story hour visage. Probably would have been less effort on Blizzards part too.
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>>583362834
Retail was always made for gay people
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>>583362834
what a sad cope
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>>583260678
Playing the game for this whole year and reading all the interviews gives the conclusion that the 8 week patch cycle has destroyed their ability to develop the game and leadership has developed such a pathological obsession with lying to players and to each other that every decision made is dripping with such raw cynicism that thinking about the game is offputting, let alone playing it. More than one person with insider sources have said retail's team is "unmanageable" after the lawsuit, and that seems to be speeding towards its inevitable conclusion.
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Silly lore question: what kind of symbol could represent azeroth as a whole?
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>>583363739
open haranir in character creation and hit the randomize button
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>>583363739
a gaping axe wound
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>>583363739
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>>583362834
RP coomers don't play this game for gays and lesbians, they play it for futas. Blizz doesn't know their degen gender identity audience.
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Buy dah worlo mini's
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alexstrasza's dragonflight drip is pretty tight but it is a little sad they nerfed the life giver's life givers
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>>583364329
I want the arthas but the alliance set fucking sucks outside the dwarf and the dk
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why are my spells not saving on bars still
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>>583364550
It's a visage so she can change it however she wants, lore-wise.
>>583364913
If you're turning the game off with alt+F4 or your WoW folder is read-only this will happen.
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>>583364329
>equal amount of vaginas
gtfo
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Who wonnered? Who losted?
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>>583362834
Gay couples are based if done right written by actual gays and not foids. Foids don’t really know how boylove works so they essentially put two beardos kissing which current blizzard team does not have.
No real gay person wants to see trolls kissing, they want to see vulpera boys kissing and being friendly, playful to each other
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I can only find like 6-7 instances of actual gay couples in WoW, literally most of the gay shit in WoW is just "this character flirts with the player regardless of their gender"
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>>583304994
with dragussy this fine, you gotta try slaying it no matter the level
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>>583360653
alex jones was right, the frogs were gay all along
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I had a tasty juicy burger for lunch /wowg/
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>>583366005
you are fat
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>>583365997
doesn't that mean he was wrong?
wasn't his shtick like fluoride turned the frogs gay? if the frogs were gay all along, how did they get turned gay?
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Are we the Quirk Chungus of WoW general’s?
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>>583366128
I weigh 170 lbs
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>>484951161
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

AH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
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you guys remember this game?
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mustve struck a nerve
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>foreverfags when you tell them vanilla was also retail once
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>>583366176
at 5'7" is fat
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>>583365241
This made me realize near-zero twink/twink relationships exist in AAA media. It's always two hairy men or the least attractive creatures possible.
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>>583366537
6'2" unironically
I am an unmuscular, unatheltic skinny twerpy dweeb, get it right
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>FFXIV Evercold
>Aion 2
>GW3
>Runescape 4

>WoW Forever

I don't feel so good...
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>>583366659
im 6’2”… layin down ;)
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>>583365241
idk bro, I saw how RTD tried to do a gay relationship in the latest seasons of Dr Who and somehow as a gay man, he still decided his black doctor's boyfriend needed to be sent to the hell dimension to suffer forever.
Then again, he's like a 63 year old getting sucked off by some 20 something twink.
Even the gays suck at writing gays.
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>>583366805
w0w....
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>>583366005
>eating goyslop
couldn't be me
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This is Marty is midnight any good? I am playing on private servers and was wondering if the current retail season is worth a try
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>>583366962
Sometimes a goyburger in my goyhole does the American soul good
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>>583366805
are you around Philly?
we could meet up and maybe
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>>583366998
Same as any other season post-DF except now people seem to get tired of it faster and quit before its mid-point.
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>>583367093
I live close to Philadelphia too
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>>583366998
>I am playing on private
uh huh
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>>583366998
You picked a bad time to get into retail friend. The m+ season bled participants faster than ever
The raid is so dogshit that many hardcore raiders are losing any desire to play and it's reported that both /wowg/ guilds gave up on it before clearing
PVP is a fucking extinguished dumpster fire
Just play with your gulag bros on tauri
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>>583365241
>>583366841
I thought the only well written gay relationship was in the original Last of Us game with the schizo prepper and his partner. You don't realize it's that kind of partner until you find out what happened to him and by that point you just feel kinda bad for him even though he's an abrasive cunt.
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>>583367246
up for something this week? do some melves and see where it lead us? i have an extra desk on my garage
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how about you troons organize this shit in your trooncord and not in the thread?
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Kinda off topic and probally showing my age but:
I find it kinda sad that the coolest "mmorpg" i ever played was .hack, everything there was cooler and how imagined mmorpgs would actually be in the future but somehow everything got less immersive instant
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rate me
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nah
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>>583367741
literally the peak of all retail
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>>583367741
youre gonna give me xp for completing a quest in icecrown then betray me in the very next quest and die
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>>583367741
get some gloves with barbs on them and a katana like sword and you could be frozen Shredder
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>>583367741
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>>583366005
I want a human wife
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>>583368108
I got you. Bend over
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>>583368108
gross
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N'zoth sisters.. It's over... Hearthstone is gonna turn us into a marketable plushie like Rabbitath and Mini C'thun...
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>>583366587
Because foids writers have not the feintest clue what gays are like they selfishly force what they think they should be like always. And in some ways they intentionally uglyfy gays to spite us because we're free from them. You're never gonna see genuine boylove in World of Warcraft, only in RP you do.
Real faggotry is cute, pure and wholesome, love based on empathy and mutual understanding which are concepts foids are biologically incapable of. They're repulsed and hate boys with pure hearts who often are actual gays, they never miss the opportunity to humiliate them like they did Anduin or Zul'jan.

They also insist and shove down that ugly rainbowflag down our throats instead of the correct blue/green toothpaste flag which they conveniently ignore, because foids HATE having no control over men like us which is what that flag represents. It should be illegal for foids to write gays in any capacity.
Gays without being furries in general is like mac without cheese, absolutely no reason for Mathias shaw to remain human, he should be Worgen.
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>>583362059
WoD SOVL
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SUMMONING TROVES
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>>583368152
>irl
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>Supersonic faggot meltdown Sundays
na I'll pass actually, cya tomorrow
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>>583260678
Ever since Early / Mid WoD the production team has been in a full on sprint to get content out.

Remember when they wanted one expansion per year?
That never went away, at least the pacing put on the team never went away.

Ion has said more than once that he's actively searching for
>and I fucking quote:
"The Perfect Expansion Formula". They honestly thought they had found at least the majority of the equation in infinite Artifact Power, they then stupidly didn't realize how absolutely sweaty the player base is and you had people literally farming that vykrul dungeon whatever its called like 4,000 times in one week to get to AP level 10.

They also, for some reason, gatekept or outright trolled some classes when it came to legiondaries. To this fucking day you STILL have to wait out some mission table stuff because, while you can send your champs out, you dont have enough that are capable of 100%ing them, leaving you waiting anyways.
>who cares though, right?
During TW weeks you can absolutely deck yourself out.

Also, for things like monk legiondaries, they can get a literal dead one in the form of the jade lightning chest. Meanwhile, a warlock can get their BiS just a few minutes after hitting max.

Don't get me started on Argus.
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>>583367467
you got insta or whatsapp?
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>>583364329
>already assembled and posed
shan't
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>>583370370
holy shit
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>Imagine paying 210€
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>>583370370
literally the perfect body for breeding
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>>583372273
yes anon, $59.13 is also much more reasonable for that slop.
i just boughtedbuyed
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>he boughtedbuyed
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>>583372273
Who the fuck would buy this when pet battles are dead?
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>>583372462
>>583372515
>>583372559
dont underestimate paypiggies
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>>583373157
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>>583370370
i told myself i wasn't going to jack off today god damn it
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how about my dragon wife will cuddle me HUH HOW ABOUT THAT
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'member when Ion said that the patch cadence is having no negative effect on quality at the start of the year
'member when Ion said they rushed massive class changes at the 11th hour because he was told that the addon prune was way ahead of schedule and ready for release
'member when Maria said uniting the elven tribes was going to be a very long and difficult process and we'd only just see the start of it in Midnight
'member when Maria said that they were remaking the entirety of Northrend and not just a few zones and now the way they talk about it heavily implies something like the whiteboard leak which deletes almost half the zones

I wish people memed this stuff as hard as Ion and Lore were during BfA, but I think nobody cares anymore. It's like making fun of a retarded child that isn't even aware of your presence.
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>>583370370
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>make new spec
>it's extremely simple and boring to play
>overtune it to make sure it's #1
>S2 start
>new spec sucks again
>push 7 consecutive buffs to make it OP again
lmao what're they doing man
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>>583370370
ugly fat bitch
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>>583373775
>it's extremely simple and boring to play
filtered, its ok anon not everyone can handle devourer
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>>583374292
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>>583375043
>image of gay men
nah u
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>>583374371
I have every boss over 90 parse anon, you're the shitter here thinking this spec is even remotely complicated LMAO
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>>583375496
>I have every boss over 90 parse anon
and devourer filtered you lmao, ret or bm?
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>>583375496
yes? its actually one of the hardest currently ingame.
what's your point?
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>>583375653
It's not even close to being the hardest, are you high or something?
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>>583375835
>dev dh
>not hard to play
ok
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Janny just nuked a 880 post xivg thread
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>>583376239
probably one guy lel
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>>583376239
ok and?
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>>583376239
> Things being nuked in a forum in which after certain amount of comments every single thread is permanently deleted and never seen again

Wow, so it was worthless!
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>>583376239
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>>583377646
>>583377646
>>583377646
>>583377646
new



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