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>Latest patch:
https://www.playdeadlock.com/cityneversleeps

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki/
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
https://deadlock-api.com/
>Unofficial Competitive News
https://edl.gg/
https://www.deadfrag.com/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Threadlocked: >>583260772
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>30 day ban for saying nigger
trannylock
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I want to marry Rat King and become his...other King.
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>>583288854
newfags cant hide their power level
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Anyone else rushing green spike on the king?
only played one game as him but laning vs shiv+infernus was kind of rough.
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Sex with Venator
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>2 minutes into the game
>Rem gets raped in the tunnels by the king
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I need to rape wraith
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>Valve devs when they see a black grandpa playing chess in the park
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Danny bros I'm thinking we might beat the nigger based on the votes in my matches today
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>WHO'S EXTERMINATING WHO?!
>It's whom. "Who's exterminating whom?"
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>>583288883
When are you gonna post it on the blue site?
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Rat king's ult is so fucking broken
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>>583289214
Its paywall content, I cant.
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heded tu bloo
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>furfag op
>every post is a 12 year old trying too hard to fit in
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>Rem and Mo and Skill on enemy team
>They take every single but of farm oj the mao for free
>Rem just tags along with the mo and krill and ults to get out if we try and contest
HOW DO YOU STOP THESE FUCKERS
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deadlock's midgame is BORING
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Harrow is real tall btw. Nearly Victor height.
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>>583289267
>aiieeee, is that a soft area denial for 12 seconds every +2 minutes?!? No!!! This is impossible to counter!!
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>>583289359
Vyper literally fucks Billy retard
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reminder to keep the racist grifting in /v/, we actually play and talk about the game here
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>>583289613
I've never even touched Deadlock, I hang out here because people post asses.
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buff mina
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>>583289546
>soft area denial
you can just say you want to suck him off im not gonna like judge you
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>>583289546
vegas please calm down
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Why do people complain about the cooldown of Rat King's ult while lash shows up to every teamfight with a 3 second stun
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>>583289359
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>>583289613
Your spire, king
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>>583289690
A connoisseur of the finer things.
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>>583289815
because you can counterspell lash's ult?
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>>583289359
I have a feeling that Drifter and Doorman would kill anyone who had sex with them out of principle. Like a reverse praying-mantis situation.

Also on the sex note. I'll say it again since this is a new thread:
Mina, Paige, Vyper, Ivy, The Archmother (and Valerie the rat, kek) all non-consensually team-molesting a very flustered and incredibly grumpy Victor.
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mina buffs very soon.
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>>583289815
Personally I complain about the 8 move speed and immunity to slows, 40% slow, and 30% damage reduction that lets your team auto win every objective.
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WE HAVE YOU NOW
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>Easy farming and poke due to do gun falloff
>Assistant acts as a blink as well
>insane util turning everyone into a furry's final evolution
>when they have high util ults, YOU have high util ults. Sometimes, you use them better than they do

Sinclairbros, I kneel. What is the build you're going, atm? Gun early, a bit of green, then spirit?
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>>583290002
this bitch is pisslow thanos, she ain't gettin buffed
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>>583289982
That's too much counter play for poor weak lash so he also gets the option to delay his ult
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>>583289815
You can silence lash after he announces his intention to ult you
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>>583289214
Check the furry games thread on /trash/, I posted it there.
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>>583290158
pisslow thanos who is also constantly chosen in every elo because shes grossly unbalanced
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>583289613
no one tell him what that word means
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why
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>>583288883
I am not gay or furry, but god damn wouldn't I mind deepthroting RK's slick rat cock while carressing his muscular and fur-covered thighs and ass while he grabs my head with his claw and says panting: "goood, serve the king's cock... that's all you stinkin' humans are good foh..."
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deathy's tier list
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>>583289287
>Miht Kahl style Rat King
Speaking of, a retro-disney style animated short for deadlocks release would be so kino.
I think the art styles would work quite well mashed together.
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>>583290406
he's a high EHP but low HP tank just like victor.
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>>583290449
...Okey dokey.
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>>583290002
fixed your image for you, no need to thank me
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Is Gun Talon even a thing? Last time I had one in my team and he did absolutely nothing but feed. He scored less than 10k damage in a 25 minutes game
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>>583290489
>that b tier

???
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harrow chad here. should I vote danny just to ensure solomon doesn't win?
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>>583289167
>THEY CAN EVEN PLAY CHESS!?
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lost another match with graves after a strong start
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>>583290489
Mo S tier? I generally find him not very useful in Street Brawl.
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>>583290489
>lash b
>mina s
lol!
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>wait a while
>check back
>every single post is still a 12 year old trying too hard to fit in
Literally what happened between the last thread and this one?
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>>583290792
t. 13 year old
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>>583290671
The sooner you vote the nigger the faster people can kill him in game
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>>583290318
>grossly unbalanced
>sub-50% winrate
she's picked because she's an evil baddie and her kit is fun
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>>583290136
>sinclair is such a hard hero
>hes so skillful to play
>you need to be an amazing player
He's the most braindead easy to play hero in the game.
Needing to aim bolt doesn't make him hard, especially when you can control it mid fucking flight, it just makes sinclair players who can't hit their shit retarded, there is way harder to consistently hit spells in the game that people spell easily do.

He's one of the most carried heroes in the game.
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>>583290671
sure, I'm voting Nurse after Danny is in anyway.
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>>583290489
>Mo & Krill
>best in the game
>Seven and Victor
>in bottom 5
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>>583290489
Rem has like a 47% winrate or something.
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>>583290792
Go back.
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>>583290924
Have you tried not playing street brawl only?
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>>583290754
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>>583291016
These are the retards that rated Silver as hyper busted for months when her winrate was below 50%
They don't know anything
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>>583291016
I don't play ranked. Majority of Rem matches seem to me go like him pigging up on souls, getting ahead, but unless rest of the team actually knows to push at his peak, shit plateaus fast and his team loses.
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>>583291016
I'm sure this is the fault of the characters kit and not at all how Rem's playerbase play their character.
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>>583290717
>
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>>583291167
Me too.
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eido's tier list for comparison
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>>583291079
>human mmr
>counting
is pisslow she just dies to AoE spam and in tournies she doesn't do anything unless ahead. No way is she on the same tier as Pocket.
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imagine giving a single shit about tier lists
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> oh boy new update
> 1st game is fun woah new map is amazing
> MM immediately puts me agaisnt the sweatiest people possible

Like i dont mind losing but every game that over at the 10-15 min mark makes want to do horrible things
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>>583290887
cope and seethe m1gger
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>>583290792
you're going to say this exact same thing next thread, you worm.
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>>583290239
>delays ult, gets hit with knockdown/bebop hook/paradox swap/doorman ult/etc. etc. etc.
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how do you nerf yammers without gutting grapple?
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>>583291279
He might be good at the game but he's a stupid person
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>>583290489
we really back to release Rem "Rem is OP macro"? it doesn't matter if you can still shit more easily, he can't do anything with the souls
this has already been solved it's crazy that someone would fall into it again
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I couldn't give less of a fuck about streamer's opinions.
They are the cancer killing multiplayer games.
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>>583291386
revert the buff, she didnt need one.
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>>583291279
SILVER'S TOOOOOOOO GOOOOOOOOOOOOD
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>>583291167
I have an 85% winrate with him since I started playing again.
What do other rems do?
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>play standard
>their team: full discord tranny stack, obvious coordination because they all gank 3 at a time
>your team: guy who has never played bebop and dynamo before, bebop goes full green and your dynamo rushes barrier instead of something logical like refresher
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>>583291386
Nerf the numbers on 1
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>>583289613
Hey, buddy, /utg/ is two threads down.
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>>583291350
I can just stand still while you miss everything
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>calico can't break heavy boxes as ava
literally genuinely totally unplayable
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>>583291560
FUCK you
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>>583291386
slate her for a rework, keep the sword slash and ult. just give her something else entirely
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>>583291492
How?
>meh pillow
>remove yourself from the fight to heal 10% of their health a bit which theyll probably lose anyway since youre not doing anything else to help or even distract
>make a minion very slightly stronger or farm a bit to power up his worthless abilities
>his ult is the only good thing
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>>583291492
>siphon up all the farm on the map
>die with a 2k bag to enemy carry
They do this like three four times a match.
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>>583291279
Somehow even worse
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So are people intentionally downplaying lash so he stays untouched or what? Because im so sick of scumbags 1 trucking him and carrying the game because his numbers are outta fucking control
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>>583291279
Seven bottom tier my electrified nut sack.
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Silver is so broken she auto-wins 45% of matches by just being in them. With 11 other heroes in the match.
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>>583290887
>He's one of the most carried heroes in the game.
Based
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>>583291386
Why not just make it only travel a set distance. Getting grappled from 500ft away, running 500ft and it still be going is really stupid.
Like after traveling 30m max it breaks or something
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>>583291804
kevin...
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>>583291348
oh don't even get me started. the first 10-ish matches were so horrid i could barely hold myself back from closing the game at the 20 minute mark. i got raped thoroughly, legit made me question whether they also rebalanced the whole game and nerfed my heroes and buffed whoever i was up against
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Odds I jerk off to Rat King
Evens I jerk off to Lash
0 I play another standard.
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>>583291692
he autowins lane if you Remling maxxx. The healing is insane combined with FREE spirit res. He can farm parts of the map most can't so you have one less person taking topside farm away from a carry. Smol hitbox and bonus active range and duration when attached.
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>>583291914
>why not just make yam grapple completely useless against movement bug abusers?
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>>583291692
>10%
40-80% is more realistic
last game I think I did 15k healing in the final teamfight
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Did people really already get bored of RK? lol
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>>583292097
No its Deadlock that Im already bored of.
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Pestments is a stupid word and it annoys me when I see it.
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Why does Rem's helper tooltip still not mention the little zap they do periodically? Does it scale with spirit? Who knows.
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>>583292097
the game is unplayable on the east coast something is fucked with the connection.
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>>583289546
try every minute, and for 20 seconds.
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>>583292097
another hero solved in 24 hours that will get you flamed if you build one item different
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>>583291692
Nta but ever since always buying either nova/beam and echo shard everygame I've been winning a lot more. Other 2 actives depend on the enemy comp.
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>>583290652
victor and seven are only good in shitlow
ivy is kinda mid compared to other supports
silver
and deathy is a terminal lash downplayer
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>>583291016
I think deathy is highly biased off the fact that Rem players in High Elo are capable of running around and gathering like 3.8k souls when the 8 minute mark drops from helpers on sinners/boxes without dying.
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>>583291902
I think its a great choice for them to play sinclair, he's very good.
I am just sick of the downplay
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>>583292175
it does 1 damage
it should probably say you can get bridge buffs with them though
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>>583292175
They do lots of things!
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>want to learn Seven
>get focused and solo ulted by the entire enemy team every time I show up on the map
Am I just supposed to stay in the jungle for 30 minutes so I can show up with ult + unstoppable + infuser in the late game? Or am I doing something wrong?
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where the fuck is the corrupted shop
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>>583292097
I wont be bored of RK until they make his ult breakable and thus completely worthless.
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Hope you all vote for Solomon instead of some other bombaras pussyclaat fock ting like Baba.

Deadman Danny is fine too.
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>>583292437
>Am I just supposed to stay in the jungle for 30 minutes so I can show up with ult + unstoppable + infuser in the late game?
Yes.
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>>583291774
Deathy intentionally downplays him yes, for some it’s subconsciously. They think that they are just good and making the hero work when others can’t. There is also a large population who thinks high skill ceiling hero’s should be stronger to compensate for execution risk(i disagree)
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draining random anons >>>>>>> playing standard without a stack
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>>583292437
You want to show up to fights to ult + infuser so they are forced to buy knockdown
Then you get unstoppable and made them waste thousands of souls for nothing and can get giga nigga ults.

You need to get other items first, but you basically never click ult until you get infuser.
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Shitlowfag build, rate.
Also, question for your local Driftahfags:

Do you keep Trophy Collector all game or do you sell it during the late game?
I like having a green that makes me faster, TC gives me sprint speed however Jugg would give me more movement speed for combat. TC gives me spell range but greater expansion gives me more.
When I have lots of souls and itemization is no longer an issue, should I sell this item? If I feel I will get more from Jugg than TC for the item slot space.
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>>583292437
seven's gameplay is literally just farming and then stomping. play an active character like a real man
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>>583292524
>There is also a large population who thinks high skill ceiling hero’s should be stronger to compensate for execution risk(i disagree)
I agree with this up to a cap
The issue with what you said is that Lash is not particularly difficult to play
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>>583290489
he's a faggot who cares
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>>583292420
That's the on death zap, they zap for around 13-14 when stuck on a minion but not on a hero.
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>>583290449
Least gay ratking voter
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Remmlings should zap when on heroes.
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>>583292296

Both Vic and Ivy have very good showings in high elo eu. Seven I agree is kind of mid but weirdly once silver got shitcanned her one tricks started preforming better and the stats went up
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>heal more than the enemy team
>win
woooooaaaaahhh
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>>583292743
You should be able to target an enemy with one to debuff them.
>but that's overloade...
THEY DO LOT'SA THANGS
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>>583292524
>There is also a large population who thinks high skill ceiling hero’s should be stronger to compensate for execution
We call these people retards.
Difficult heroes should have greater flexibility and adaption compared to heroes with more simple and linear gameplans
They shouldn't hit harder, they shouldn't do more damage, they shouldn't have better disables, etc
In fact, they should on average do less because of execution mistakes.
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>>583290489
It's crazy how Bebop sees regular presence in pro play and is considered top tier by pros and E6 streamers, but if you complain that you think his "spam hook off cooldown until he lucks out a hit on your carry and wins the game" bullshit is retarded a swarm of ledditors emerge like bedbugs to insist he's fine and you just need better positioning
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>>583292894
My issue is his infinite scaling bombs. Uninteractive to lane vs him or he becomes a rapist.
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>>583292894
Those are bebop players
You call them retards and tell them to stfu
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>>583292875
a point and click stun shouldn't be as good as a aimed stun which shouldn't be as good as an aimed stun with a tiny hitbox.
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>>583291279
Silver broke these retards' brains
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you should be able to cultist sac Rem
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>>583292894
>t. cant dodge hooks
idk what to tell you, its a genuine skill issue if you move predictably enough to get grabbed from a mile away by a slow moving telegraphed projectile from one of the biggest hitbox heroes in the game
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This game aint for me Im not good with none of the heroes
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They honestly should be able to do many things
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>bebop has a nigger toolkit and loud downplayers despite doing well in high ranks and pro play
>shiv has a nigger toolkit and loud downplayers despite doing well in high ranks and pro play
>lash has a nigger toolkit and loud downplayers despite doing well in high ranks and pro play
i'm noticing a pattenr
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>>583293137
That's fine. You can always fuck off back to troon furtress
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>>583292060
If you're asking why a close range brawler hero shouldn't be able to fly around the map, idk what to tell you
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does anyone have some advice on how to actually kill heroes with calico? i feel like if someone is full hp you just don't have the damage to instantly burst them in a team fight
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ok I tested it now and Rem helper zap scales with like +4% of your spirit power
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crazy this rat fuck has not been hotfixed in brawl by now
actual game ruining
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>>583292992
>becomes
I miss the first week I got into Deadlock from two years ago. Those fuckers have evoled to just sending the bombs across the lane with a minion at 2nd unlock instead of just running into me.
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>>583293291
yeah, switch off her and play someone else
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>>583293207
mindbroken
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>>583293052
Yeah
The point and click stun should stun for longer and do more damage.

You are absolutely right that they shouldn't be as good, the ability to use an unaimed stun when you can't see a hero, to precast it, or many other manner of ways is incredibly strong and it needs to be compensated for in it being weaker than something with such heavy restrictions.
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>>583292097
100% pick rate
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>>583293402
how does that help me actually kill heroes with calico
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post all the solomon memes you got
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>>583293521
you have to hit all her bombs
and no you cant just 100-0 most people even with full combo, unless you're fed, and even then one spirit resist item will stop that
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violet on tuesday!
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>>583293072
Honestly I could see this actually being balanced well if the rem is really low health <50 or <20. It's like a shittier shiv execute but way funnier.
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Zesty Jesus just DESTROYED deadlock
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#winning
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>>583293704
>>583293616
Shet yuh dutty bumboclaat mout gyal
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>>583293291
rush ring of repick
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>>583293052
I’m ok with this in an intra-hero perspective my main gripe with the philosophy is when it’s applied across hero’s. It banishes the “easy” hero’s to shitlow and hurts draft diversity at the top
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>>583293704
Violet will suffer horribly later in life, paint was dangerously toxic by 1949.
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>>583293704
I was going to tell you not to delude yourself. But I have a feeling you do that anyways regardless.

Solomon, Baba, and Danny are basically solidified as the next three, don't kid yourself.
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>>583293320
It procs reverb too I think
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>before patch
Man these are some rough matches, they over nerfed comeback mechanics
>patch day
fun
>days after
These are just unwinnable stomps one way or the other
>rat king release window
novelty, fun
>now
These are even more unwinnable than before, somehow
So when are they going to fix this every game is just one team ahead by 60k, typically the one with all the teamfight ults. Its miserable. And also the servers have been laggy as fuck intermittently since the patch dropped.
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>>583293634
I see
In a fight I would usually go for the backline stuff like wraiths etc but i guess since most of the time I can't burst them down the next best thing would be to just jump in on someone my team whittled down already
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>>583293952
he already suffered a fate worse than lead or arsenic poisoning. kek.
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>>583293871
best post in this thread
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>>583294163
What?
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>>583293738
>Zesty Jesus
you mean the lolifaggot with a buff girl self insert avatar who bans you from his server if you kill him too many times and blames good players for removing Quickplay from tf2, something literally nobody ever asked for? that guy?
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reposting again from like 4-5 threads ago
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>>583293871
what does bomboclaat mean
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me as solomon to my team when we lose 3 walkers and midboss: everyting gwaan be irie
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>>583293893
I agree, all heroes should be viable at all ranks. Not necessarily good, but not bad either.
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why didn't bobby fisher and kasparov unlock their magic chess powers? were they scrubs?
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>>583294560
that's funny reddit bro keep it up.
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Need more new heroes so both teams have a selection of broken bullshit. They really should release them in pairs.
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>>583294427
I'm going to regret voting for this guy but man will it be funny when he's on your team.
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>>583294403
so why didn't any of the "good players" push back against quickplay's removal?
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>>583294560
good post
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Imagine if the rats kept the healing steal from the forum idea.
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>>583294456
dun worry bout it battyboy craKKKa
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How to fix Silver in 2 very easy steps:
>3 stamina
>15% bullet and spirit resist on ult
Wowee that was difficult, Gaben should hire me, or whoever is in charge with Gaban hiding in international waters
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>>583294456
linguists have been trying to figure it out for years.
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mi tink mi a gwaan tek de rift
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I dont care if valve adds in a chink bait character for money but the character should have been cool. We could have gotten some guy that does tai chi in central park but is also a sick ass cultivator.
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>>583294901
>craKKKa
It sounds cool when you state it this way instead of mildy annoying.
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Should release slork keep his old herolab kit or should they completely rework him?
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>>583294456
bombo means ass
claat means cloth
an asswipe rag, basically
used as an exclamation most of the time
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>>583294560
me as mina every-time we lose a walker:
>Uh oh! Sum ting wong!
>Whaaa daaa heall?!?
playing rat king every waking moment: >Gabagool gababababagoool gabagool,
>Oy vey!
drifter:
>hewwo pwincess.
Stealing sinners as rem:
>Wuz gud cuh, Rolling the block with the switch, sheeiit.
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>>583294456
Lingustically, Jamaican equivalent of "fucking". You can put it most anywhere for insulting emphasis.

Literally, it's like a tampon. Bombaclaat, pussyclaat, and bloodclaat all refer to a fabric you use to stop up vaginal bleeding.
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>>583293871
>>583294456
>>583295176
>Shut your dirty asswipe mouth girl.
TRANSlated
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>>583295090
THREAD THEME SONG: https://youtu.be/CeKQCT-ke5I
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>>583294762
they did, but Valve would lose too much face by removing it now
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>>583295134
>slark passive in a game where you can parkour across the map out of sight in 2 seconds
NEVER ADD THIS FUCKER
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>>583295134
I don’t care if people complain about infinite stacking, I want slork to have an approximation of slark’s infinite stat steal mechanic
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currently 0-7
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>>583295134
Judging by the new characters it will definitely be completely redesigned. Looking at the new characters you really realize just how many of the current characters are still unfinished.
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so now that rat king is out and hes awful, how do we buff him?
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so now that rat king is out and hes overpowered, how do we nerf him?
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>>583295653
he's very strong
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>>583295581
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that's a big girl
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Anyone who stands too close to rat king should get fleas and start itching.
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>>583295653
every single game has an enemy rat king, and im losing every game to him. for some reason there is no rat king ever on my team.
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>>583295698
i think his ult needs charges
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>>583295698
Lower ult numbers, increase cooldown significantly.
Increase 3 cooldown.
Make 1 flat damage a bit lower.
Done.
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>>583295461
>slark’s infinite stat steal mechanic
apparently this got removed, I dunno wtf dota nu-devs are doing over there
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>>583295389
I am quite looking forward to all the comical yakubian edits when solomon comes out.
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>>583295757
>yoshi catered to moira mains before he catered to mercy mains
based tbqh
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>>583295738
>Heavy meleeing in wolf form
Are you retarded?
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>>583295757
Is she 6'5 lmao what
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>>583295913
not me
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>>583295653
brick GAWD
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>>583295757
God she's big.
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It took forever but I found it. The ai sloppa chess design posted here from many months ago

```
THE GRANDMASTER

A chess hustler who does not shoot, he places. Backline control, Spirit and
Vitality, weak gun, no escape.

> ANALYSIS SET, weapon
- Carved pawns flicked off the thumb
- 17.4 damage, 3.05 shots per second, 53 DPS, 14 ammo
- 22 to 48m falloff, mid tier on purpose

> ROOK
- 26s cooldown, 2 charges, 30s duration
- Fires the two world axes as a cross, four arms of 14m
- 32 damage per second plus 0.55 spirit scaling
- Outside the cross you take nothing, and it is drawn for both teams
- Upgrades: extra charge, blocks movement, then swap places with it anywhere

> BISHOP
- 22s cooldown, 30s duration
- Fires both diagonals, passing through allies and your own pieces
- Applies 18 percent Spirit Vulnerability instead of damage
- Where a diagonal crosses a rook arm the square lights for both teams and
enemies on it take 35 percent more damage from everything
- Upgrades: slow, more vulnerability, then a dying bishop fires once more

> FORK
- 19s cooldown, a knight move, 9m forward with a 4m kink
- Marks enemies near the path, they take more from your pieces and show
through walls
- Marking two halves the cooldown, which is the skill expression
- Upgrades: shorter cooldown, slow, then a free mirrored second cast

> PROMOTION, ultimate
- 110s cooldown, 14s duration, targets an ally and never himself
- They become a Queen with bonus spirit, weapon damage, health, speed and
25 percent cooldown reduction
- Every piece on the map re aims through them and follows as they move
- Upgrades: longer, immune to silence, then a second ally at 60 percent

>DESIGN
- Everything is telegraphed, crosses on the ground, lit squares, a violet
column visible map wide
- Pieces are destructible and stationary, he holds one fight at a time
- No escape, and he wins from a step behind the fight
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>>583290489
>graves in C
my seeker games say otherwise
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>>583295738
Are you playing against bots?
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>>583295176
wait if bombo means ass
does mi bombo mean "my ass"? from that one funny coconut video
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Holiday needing to punch barrels to make the ability useful is bad game design. It's not skillful or interesting, it's just busywork inputs that give an illusion of something deeper than a standard nuke ability. Shit needs reworked
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>>583295757
>people still think she will be a healbot support
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I lost my first game as rat king because my teammates didn't know how to not get kidnapped by doorman, however it was fun as fuck just not dying to anything at all. Like I was fighting their whole damn team at once at full build it felt great, damage was super mid though.
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If you're voting for harrow or solomon you gotta rethink your fucking life
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>>583295757
A bit shorter than Venator I reckon since she's wearing heels
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>>583295895
The three type of girls who play mercy either play paige so they can fufill their healslut fetish of ramora-ing to a
carry, or Mina because she's the sexy girly girl and can fly, or the true Mercy mains have been playing Ivy because she's the most righteous, nice, and cute out of all the supports,
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>>583296112
Especially because it's pretty much never better to throw them and shoot them or wait for them to explode. They should give it some interaction with her passive if she shoots a barrel to blow it up when her passives up.
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Haven't played in awhile, when did they change it so you don't start with all 3 abilities in lane?
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>>583290887
I have 800 games on him. He's literal dogshit.
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>>583296112
There are still times you want to roll it though instead of launching it
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>>583296203
Ivy is the hmofatard character. Paige is more the Mercy Main speed, but she seems to be played more by the creatures that play Mei
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>>583296168
The only objectively wrong vote is Violet.
>>583296231
Like 1.5+ years ago.
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>>583296168
not voting* teehee
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>>583296168
u mad violettroon?
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>>583295757
she's so perfect
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>>583296112
I honestly agree. Rolling the barrels is one thing but they're unusable in the air unless punched. The default throw physics in the air are nonsensically limp.
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>>583296168
faggot speak
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>>583296247
>I played 100 games of him and thought he was bad
>So I played 700 more
what a fucking downplay
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>>583295757
I need her violently and i'm going to be so fucking sad if she hits on another character
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>>583296168
>>583296313
I'm voting Danny, Harrow after. It’s just unfortunate that both are gonna be bottom 3
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>>583292743
zap?
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>>583296231
you never did?
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>>583296443
Remlings on creeps have a passive zap attack that's basically torment pulse.
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>>583293206
shiv hasn't been meta in high ranks and pro play for a while now
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>>583296273
Not really. When would you do that? To get it under a door way? It's not that hard to melee it under one and then it blows up right away. If they're remotely close they're gonna hit the AoE and if they weren't rolling wasn't going to be very reliable because the physics are wack. When I was learning her I struggled to find a realistic situation where rolling them made sense and was reliable.
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>>583295757
MOMMY
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Never played street brawl, never will
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>>583295965
now that is embarrassing
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>>583296294
lucky for me I love the creatures that play Mei. My gf really likes Mei, Anran, and Ana and I've been trying to lure her into playing deadlock with me, but the possibility of 50+ long matches is a hard sell. I have a feeling she'd really like silver or holliday though.
>>583296305
>The only objectively wrong vote is Violet.
truth.
>>583296442
for me it's
>danny
>Harrow
>Baba
>Solomon
>Violet
Solomon and baba are basically interchangeable in my preference order. Gonna keep voting danny and harrow for now though.
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>>583293291
(I am assuming you are trying to play spirit burst Calico and not gun)
Max cat and ult first
Ignore green spike, the only green you get early is trophy collector
Get stalker, cold front and spirit strike -> spirit snatch early to add to your burst. You can get stuff like mystic shot and spirit shred for your orange spike later.
Always stack up bonus damage from cat form before ganking, activate cold front before leaping in with 2 (the ice wave will follow you) and hit your bombs. Her ult damages twice, once on activation and once on invincibility end, make sure both of them hit. Weave in melees when you can (use heavy melee at your own risk).
Obviously pick your targets, don't try to 100 to 0 a Mo and Krill, check people's inventories for spirit res, spirit shielding, jump supports or retard carries that greed and don't buy greens. Don't try to be an initiator in teamfights, try to flank squishies with no cooldowns instead.
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>>583296524
Abl is unbanned bro shiv is back
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>>583295965
Ladies and gentlemen - the next big esport!
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>accidentally clicked on eskay's stream
>immediately feel disgusted to my core and click away as soon as possible
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Flopping tranny deadcock.
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>>583296843
he playin yamato doe
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>>583296537
When you're targeting an enemy that isn't yet in your line of sight or if you're blocking a doorway you can plant/roll them to get hits without exposing yourself at all
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>>583296991
How the mighty have fallen…
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>>583292097
ngl his kit is kinda underwhelming from a brain tickling perspective
none of the spells feel all that rewarding outside of his bombastic af ult
your bomb takes five business days for full effect and is largely background noise, your rats do negative damage and apply shred that you'll never notice because your gun is half assed, and barrier is just Warden/Celeste with Paper Plate'd Armor
like he's cool and fun but he doesn't have big highs like Abrams or Maurige & Grill or even Victor i guess where you can just maul several people at once

>>583296168
Going to Rat > Harrow Mommy > Daniel >>> Bababuoy = Yakub >>>>> Purple
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>>583297037
You can do the same thing with a melee because they explode and make an AoE that hits around a corner and like I said if they weren't in the AoE range how are you getting line of sight on the barrel to shoot it after it rolls closer? Seems extremely unlikely there are many situations where it makes sense to do this over just pin point meleeing which is more accurate and has an AoE.
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>>583296112
I cannot remember a time I wanted to roll a barrel as her in my last 50 games. You punch it or you set it in place during ulti.
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Silver is such fucking trash
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>>583297198
The highs are in tanking which is the least popular play style. His damage:ehp ratio is also pretty good, the dmg feels low but it’s really not he is solidly top quartile. You just have to leverage both which is asking a lot for the press 4 to win crowd
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>>583294110
the gameplay has been this stagnant snowbally spirit fiesta for almost a year now, and everyone has been too busy using MM as a scapegoat, and now that we've finally had the big nothingburger MM patch that fixed nothing, the goalpost just gets moved again

Now we have another map rework with jungle creeps, but all the major issues have been completely unaddressed and they think they can just sweep it under the rug for another few months while they placate everyone with new heroes and a bunch of shit nobody asked for. It's pretty much a wrap for the rest of 2026 and you can expect this to be the experience going forward
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Anyone else enjoying how objectively horrible the match quality has been with just one new hero? It's a special feeling. And we're getting five more of them.
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keep the faith
Harrow won't be last
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>make chess themed hero
>chess ecelebs promote him for free
truly, he is always 3 steps ahead



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