I love Erusea editionPrev. Mission: >>583307210Thread theme: youtu.be/TRVH5Hp__FY>AC8 OUT NOWyoutu.be/F54vGYxj0ts>404th squadron ID (AC8 multiplayer)70688023 (Please signal you’re from the thread in your username/ profile comment if you want to be accepted)>MP Progression Guidefiles.catbox.moe/g0cq7z.png>Aces at War 2029pastebin.com/WMkgZKYM>ACI is playable again!youtu.be/Q9wDRE7PszU>AC7/8 on Steams.team/a/502500 (AC7)s.team/a/2288340 (AC8)>/aceg/ Emulation Guiderentry.org/ybyx6>Official /aceg/ multiplayer guiderentry.org/acegMPguide>/aceg/ livery and emblem packrentry.org/3tokr>Ace Combat 3: A New Translationpastebin.com/i6sfa9aK>Encyclopedia Strangerealencycstra.net>New /aceg/ MEGApastebin.com/aYYx2UKm>PA Twitter(JP)x.com/PROJECT_ACES>PA Twitter(ENG)x.com/AceCombatGames>Kono's Twitterx.com/kazutoki>AC7Shootout Saturday is back! /aceg/ rooms are open every Sat at 1930 CET/1330 EST, with three rules:>Put /aceg/ in your tag before game for IFF purposes>No EML/QAAM/SASM>In Roca Roja, use ONLY air-to-ground special weapons in the tunnel>Resourcespastebin.com/Xbb41nvVrentry.org/ho8mm>OP Templatepastebin.com/e9PNHDcD>Project Wingmans.team/a/895870>Skin/Texture Modding Guide for PWpastebin.com/ykPhc6hnMisc Stuff>/aceg/Collagei.imgur.com/wP9NNDv.png>/aceg/Story Archive 2.0pastebin.com/1FLC4YyV>Razgriz Patch Guystrangerealpatches.com>Ostrich's Modssuperostrich.xyz>/aceg/Assault Recordspastebin.com/CjuB314d>ACX/ACJA Online Netplay Guidepastebin.com/Pk1aJsTx>SPECIAL MESSAGE TO /aceg/ FROM PIXYcameo.com/v/qSL5bOosg>What happened to Sean Ryan (Pixy) after ACZyoutu.be/qat5kEtrrpk>/aceg/ Permalinkorph.link/acegBECAUSE IT BEARS REPEATING:>Skill and guts are required here>Be a buddy, not a border>All planes are beautiful dreams>DELAY THE FINAL ATTACKFAQ>Has the Project Wingman update dropped yet?Haha..>Has a PS2 trilogy remake been announced yet?No
Thanks for baking.We all get cake because of your efforts.
When is this thing gonna get piratedNo im not fucking torrenting
>>583351556seriously running out of ideas for the thread pics
Am I correct with these assumptions about Online?>Fighters do more damage to airborne enemies, but hit ground targets with the force of wet tissue paper. Generally have good to great speed and mobility.>Inversely, Attackers do more damage to ground targets but suck against aircraft. Speed sucks unless you pick the Strike Eagle or Su-34. Mobility always sucks for Attackers.>Multiroles and EW are average against everything, but will likely become good against everything with enough levels and parts, especially since they don't get the speed/mobility debuff that Attackers get.
>>583351847
Are the ace spawn conditions for m23 fucked? There is no Lux squadron and I killed Ventus and Gemma well below the 3 min mark
>>583351847Screenshots from playthroughs/online
>>583351849Seems accurate from my experience.You forgot that attacker guns point down for no good reason which is really annoying.
>>583351847SHADOW WIZARD MONEY GANG
I don't care about you ojisan, give me your jailbait daughter
I can't wait to go to the other countries in the world!
Apologize.
>>583352006Jenkins just staring at his hand is so funny
>>583352065>hideo kojima if he was Spanish
>>583352129*Mexican American
>fa-36>is a fighter so it sucks at the a part onlinehey
Why do the devs love her so much
>>583351918>You forgot that attacker guns point down for no good reason which is really annoying.Well that sucks. To be honest I haven't actually used an Attacker yet outside of M14 in campaign, and that doesn't really count.>>583352006I love the characters just grunting uncomfortably whenever you take too long to press the button. Can't even call it a QTE if the game lets you sit there until you play along.
>>583352302She's Japanese
>>583352006I really wish there were fail states, even if they were just>"... Not the handshake type? Right..." *scene continues*Would give them a little more reason to exist
>>583351918>>583352346This has been a thing for over a decade now
>>583352065I still don't understand his character arc
>>583351849A2A and A2G bars pretty much show baseline damage of planes.But even that isn't completely true as i've only seen A10 missiles oneshot tanks while fullbacks need a few MGs hits even tho the bar is higher
>>583352246Nothing with SOD sucks for ground pounding
>>583352346If you want to gun the core on Chandelier you have to fly in this ridiculous up/down zig zag to keep getting on target and then pulling down to avoid hitting the top of the barrel. It's really bad.
>>583352469Bro wants to see the power of social media. He's literally in it for the thrill and the love of the game.
I think most of the vocal songs in the game are ass but I'll admit this one is fucking kinohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRVH5Hp__FY
>>583352302Namco mascot.
>>583352469He went from being a soulless corpo wanting likes to realizing there's a life outside of his phone. Basically what Kono hopes happens to the folks on this website and just zoomers in general
>FCU-Sotoa war happens at the break of the 2030s>Electrosphere's consciousness-to-cloud upload tech is developed in the 2030sSo DLC or AC9 for the eventual "fight against ai uploads of pilot consciousnesses"?
How do you do a PSM, I can't for the life of me do it. I just keep doing a high G turn.
>>583352658go below 500 press throttle and decel pitch up
>>583352469>Nepobaby has no calling in life and lives dragged by other people's influence and the power of Reddit karma finds self actualization by using that same influence to find himselfIt's a pretty clean arc.
>>583352658Requires sub 500 speed, a plane that can do it, and being in neutral before doing the input
Electrosphere soon
ACES took off so A Thousand Points of Light can do a Kulbit
I am the god of luck. Feels great.>>583352658Wait a second before pulling up. If you pull up as you accel+decel then it's high g, if you wait then it turns into PSM.
Wait so Cope living in Rex's head was his actual spirit and not some schizo delusion caused by brain damage?
>>583352459...I don't think I ever used an attacker in 7 either. And I didn't actually play Infinity myself, but I gleaned enough info from /aceg/ back in the day to understand its meta to a degree.>>583352626Do they still treat Reiko from Ridge Racer as her sister?>>583352628>>583352751Probably the most satsifying character arc in the game. They had all the ingredients to make him into a traitor and scumbag, but at worst he's just slimy but 100% means well.
>>583352896Yes they literally say Ray has no brain damage at the start. That's Cope's copeghost
>>583351878if it didn't show then you probably did not
>>583352896Santos might just be a terrible nurse, the jury's still out on that>>583352959Isn't Reiko the sister of the Nagase from AC2/4? She's distinct from the Nagase from 5/7/8
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I don't mind Copeghost. He just spouts cool one liners and gives you encouragement. I thought it'd be a Cyberpunk situation where he would just blabber on 24/7 nonstop.
>Game version of Hortus Regis AltiIt doesn't hit as hard as in the game as the Daredevil shield drop, but I think the song itself might be my new favorite Ace Combat song
>>583353112Real question, what kind of combat-related injury can cause crippling of three limbs? Spinal injury from too rough bailout?
>>583353208Antagonizing him is pretty fun>You think you can outdo me?> Yes< >Well then...
The missile launch sound in AC8 annoys me. The explosions sound weird too.
>>583352828ACES annoys me because after all those allies show up, 90% zoom off into the distance and fight off screen. The actual map is just your squadron and the ground forces.>>583353040Right, forgot there's multiple Nagases in Strangereal. Plus Ridge Racer lore is confusing as R4 was definitely set in the real world, then apparently got shifted to Strangereal.
So who's la chanteuse
>>583353208>I thought it'd be a Cyberpunk situation where he would just blabber on 24/7 nonstopkek i genuinely quit that game after keanu showed up and decided i wasn't the protag anymore
>>583353352>as R4 was definitely set in the real world, then apparently got shifted to Strangereal.So did Ace CombatMaybe a there was a time/space merge in canon
>>583353254Easily, that and a thousand other possible reasons.
Interesting how Wings is a group thing while Three Strikes was a solo act. Granted Rex does do most of the work.
Kinda weird the Shadows don't go into the single digits
half the time it feels like i should just not even bother turning up to online gamesoh, the other team has 3 MiG-31s? Cool, I won't be able to fire a single missle in this air target based co-op mission
>>583353490To be fair, Trigger by the end 80% terminus fingers 20% hand of hope, >stick with triggercame more with the DLC, he was more scary to the enemies than inspiring to his allies.
>>583353507Possibly a nod to their commander being number 11 and how none of them are greater than their commander
>>583353507That would defeat the mythology behind the squadron.
This fag was harder than his boss.
>>583353254damage from a missile close to the cockpit and subsequent amputation of crippled limbs.Gun damage from a 20mm autocannon shooting high explosive/incendiary projectiles and the subsequent shrapnel.Crashlanding and impact/crushing/burn damageAll at the same time.Fighter planes are a fine crystal glass filled with as much kerosene and ammunition as it can contain. draw your own conclusion as to what happens when they get hit.
>if belka shaped why not belkan (allegedly)?
>>583353670He's not a cripple
>>583353670cant wait for a cfa-44 to mog him easily
Shadows motiff is stuck in my headhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-x_iyF-0vU&t=1597s
>>583353670>the zealous Top ace of Sotoa flying a Felon with infinite Kulbit and Parthian shot special skillvs>a crippled old woman piloting a fighter that continuously caused nerve damageYeah I wonder why
>>583353670To be fair his boss was a cripple who during the fight was in the process of becoming a full vegetable due to constant increasing brain damage.
>>583353585I've basically given up on playing Online in its current state. Shit just isn't fun and I kinda get the impression they aren't going to mess with it
>>583353670>magically pulls a 7 quadrillion G turn because you were in his dodge range while you fired the missilethank god I started going for gun kills 7 missions earlier to practice.
why is there no wake?
>>583353585I'm desperate for a way to lower the player count. ACI let me do it, why doesn't this game let me do it?It'd also be nice to make things little harder since it's nearly impossible not to get S rank now that people aren't using level 1 F-4s.
>>583353970go loweror it's bugged
>>583353727i fucking love the existance of this thing. It's basically the missing piece that bridges nu-strangereal to AC3.The ADF series becoming the X series
>>583353970Go lowerThere is one.
>>583353585>>583353947>>583353978The Online is going to die after the first Ace Pass finishes. Only the sweatiest and most loaded whales are going to bother with a mode where you have to spend hours watching other players play the game before you can actually do anything.
>>583353978barricader in warfare and tunnel the enemy team
>>583353112Memri TV type shit
>>583353970
>>583352828Fun fact, the dad of one of the aces you shoot down in AC8 was a Yuktobanian present in the battle of sudentor, singing alongside Blaze
>>583354076It's nice seeing the evolution of the ADF series.. Though I wonder why they ditched the camera canopy for a glass one.
>>583353670I punked him within a minute of engagement. His wingmen, though? Jesus CHRIST fuck those guys.
>>583354367Even the higher ups in the plane industry wanted raytracing
>>583354241>"Tie me to a missile and fire it at Theve! I am ready!">She actually fucking does, in a roundabout way.
>>583354076>>583354367Isn't the X-40 Nightmare namedropped as the first DoE project? As in before the X-49 Night Raven? That's a direct link.
>>583321807https://youtu.be/t9eybY9qFfY
But what about Belka?
>>583354374I just finished the game in ACE difficulty. He's definitly a step above his wingmen. Almost ran out the timer.I didn't even bother with the buffed MSL and SASM at some point, just gunned him down.
>Savia is basically Sicario but as an entire countryLove those mad mercs.
>>583354637Did you know that their country's economy relies on them?
>>583353820WOOOOO WOOOO WOOOO WOOOO WAHOOOOO WOOO WAHOOO WAHOOWOHWOOAWOWHAOHWHO>>583353670What mission is he in?
>>583354701Central Headquarters drafts their contracts!
>>583354452Yeah. The X-40 is the first to have an ENSI system. It wouldn't be a far fetch to think that the next in line after Tewy is directly Rena. Even the flight suit is the same
>>583354701I've never heard this factoid beforeImagine the brochures
>>583354701AC9 should let me play as one so I can bring wealth to the country. And watch it get burned by corpo shenanigans.
>>583354701I gotta wonder how much indoctrination is involved with how much they tell themselves that
>>583354374It feels like the 22 squad get better at evasion as you thin out their numbers. Toprak was an absolute punk on my first attempt when I left him for last. But on the second attempt I went for him first, only for him to go down easily while his wingmen gave me more trouble.
>>583354783>Usea is about to be sunk in yet another internecine conflict not even 10 years after a war and a refugee crisis while Osea and Emmeria look in horror.FCU can't catch a break.
>>583354701i've never repeated a mission and it felt like i've heard this line 10 times over in my first playthrough
>>583354637Their country depends on mercenary work, you know
More like traitors waggin' their tails for Sotoa.
Do we have branch squadrons
>>583354637>YOOO THEY'RE JUST LIKE TRANNYARIO>YOOOO TEWA IS JUST LIKE TROONSON 1>YOOO MISSION 28 IS JUST LIKE THAT ONE SHIT WINGTRANNY MISSION>YOOO ARE THOSE LANDSHIPS FROM PROJECT TROONMAN?!Can you dumb fucking newfag NIGGERS fuck off?
>Popped a look at the Steam discussionI don't know why I did this to myself
>>583354947>Recovery time: 15 yearsPA knows how to make me chuckle>>583355183I'm not sure we settled on a name for the second one
>be me>be Erusean>we attack Osea >we get played by Belka>one guy folds our entire armed forces in a single tricked out F-22>we almost indirectly cause the drone apocalypse>lose the war>country is in ruins>our princess leaves to be a hippy>mfw
>>583355264TLDR please, i don't want to go there
>>583355360>our princess leavesWhy haven't you?
>>583355402
>>583355423I'm poor
>>583355537>>583355402I went there, INSTANT cortisol spike.Democracy is a mistake
>>583355264>>583355537This is what happens when the cretins that shit up discussions in /v/ are allowed to leave their containment zone, and interact with idiots that don't know not to feed the trolls.
>>583355645I have a space elevator to sell you
>>583355402>>583355675
>>583355645lol nigga open your hands to the sky, do the hand of hope or smth
>he put all his savings into ENSOcoinOh no no no no no
>>583355537>customize wingman loadout>shut the fuck up>QTEs are stupidI mean, some of these are pretty reasonable.
>>583355869doomp eet
enemy sotoan raptor: why am i number 99wtf did this jackass up into while getting mogged by rex
>>583355869Sleepy Monkey squadron, save me!
>>583355776>Do a verticale loop>AAAIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>583355776he kinda spittin nglac buddies say the same shit about hotasfags, now an even more casual has appeared
What's the bet on them doing something to the space elevator between now and whatever they might do with 3 or just copping out with "oh the simulation didn't care about it"Assuming they don't just go backwards again. The war mentioned in-game gave an out there
>>583355869>>583355914>>583355939INVEST INTO CRYPTO BOYSI HAVE AN INSIDER
>>583355997we're definitely getting either DLC or a game about the yuktobanian-sotoan war. they talked about it too much in this one, even naming specific characters involved like tasha's mom
This is the first game where I have any kind of a shit about the characters, Baxter's death was a gut punch
>>583355997The scaffolding in the end slide made me think they might actually expand it and make it bigger, rather than just repair itKind of like that little tower in Port Anderson from Missions 4 and 30, but hueg
>>583353112>>583354241
>>583356171>Daei>Does Anyone Else Invest?
>>583356285kek, nicely done
>>583356171>100% win rate at poker guy gets shot down in the mission where Moon 11 calls you a statistical outlierOk you got me.
Why the fuck does NOBODY know how to kill Chandelier and why do I keep getting it on my fucking emergency sorties!?
where were (((they))) during all this?
>>583356285EXCELLENT work Joker 1
>>583356609Making AI for submarine at least.
>>583356609>ac:0 ace pass>no belka emblem to put on jets
During the various showcases DD made with the ENSO corporate structure the tickers at the top had ENSO and MOSKYA, but this is never addressed. What the fuck Is MOSKYA?
>>583356609They orchestrated everything.
>>583356909>Enso Order DAO structure pops up again>autonomous crypto state of belka
>>583356909>>583357000trips of TRVTH
>>583356836>>583357157Could Moskya still be alive?
>>583356609I'd like to say they're pulling the strings in the background as always, but this seems to be the fault of << YOUNG CORPORATE EXECUTIVES >>
>>583357262The thing at the end showcasing it read an integer while ENSO read 0, so probably?
>>583357314thank god
>>583356909>>583357157Stop the slander, Belka is not responsible for this war.We haven't done anything.
>>583357157>The capital city of Belka got fucking nukedIt's kind of crazy how Enso and Sotoa are going to get away with everything
>>583356609Just chillin, its not like they would blow up their own capital or anything.
>>583357523>even if only indirectly, Belka is responsible for the design of the X-40It's ridiculous how much the ghost of Belka still haunts the narrative.
>>583353670He's gay.
you can immediately tell an ace combat game is going to be kino of the highest order when it only takes a single standard missile to take out a tankall of the two missile games are soulless
>>583356439i taek fighter to groun attck mission :)))
>>583356609this >>583356909if you didnt find any belkan influence, you didnt look hard enough
>>583355891i do wish we could change the loadouts for our wingmenfor style alonedon't like seeing them with AGMs when it's a full AAM missionor to make them better for other missionsi understand it's easier for them to keep them to multirole loadouts like that though
>>583358127ah fuck I just realized the retard artist didn't post a png
>>583358071which games dont have single hit tanks
>>583358127>>583358418>quip to my friend that Jenkins looks like he'd own a millennial style gourmet burger shop>first thing he does is complain about the mess hall burgers Lol (but fair, fuck beyondmeat garbage)
>>583354289La La La La~
>>583358583Wish we got more scenes with this guy. The expired MRE bit was funny.
>>583358438I recall tanks needing two missiles in 5, whereas they only needed one in Zero. I think 04 also had one missile tanks too.
>>583358418
>>583359041This but women in wheelchairs are dragging the carriage.
>>583354701>show up to Sotoa's final stand>lose 2 billion dollars worth of rafales to Wings>leave the nanosecond their contract expires>fish up a random woman in the middle of an ocean>she tells them she knows a very rich guy who will pay them to show up to fight for wings this time>sail to a random ass island to fight 1000 sotoan jetsThey should make a spin-off game where you manage a Savian aircraft carrier like it's Football Manager, these guys have main character energy
>>583357867I like it and i wish it was stronger. It just need to be more than "By the way, Belka caused this" as a passing note. Give me the actual belkan conspiracy game.One of my dearest wishes is to go back to Belka and fight over B7R in a new war. Imagine the furball.
>>583358418Have this>>583359126Cope...
Anyone knows where i can get the AC8 OST ?I can't find a place that has it but youtube, and it's not a good way to listen to it on my phone when i'm away from my PC.
>>583359454Can't you just download youtube videos these days?
one thing I will say as i'm playing it, ac3 replays are sovlful af. they always get the action so well. ac8 replays suck at getting the action on camera, it won't stop fucking looking at the jet i'm flying 90% of the time
>Usually get the Ace accolade in Assault>Usually in the middle as far as scoring goesStarting to think target scores might be a little bit fucked
>>583359454soulseek? not sure
>>583359495You can but it's kinda ass and a time consuming endeavour to do it one by one.
Welcome to Long Caster's, 10 dollars off your combo meal order with code TRIGGER, try our new F-TastyTwo Burger with 3 delicious strips of bacon on each bun.
>>583359454i think some anon posted a flac upload from a vinyl rip a few days ago, check the archive
>>583359648Long Caster fucking won
>>583351451RAILGUN WARNING
>Takes 30 minutes to up to an hour to finally get a match>Match happens, 4 people and someone leaves a minute in, instantly terminating the match due to lack of players.Great, it's not like I want to play your game anyways scamco.God I fucking hate these slant eyed gooks and their shit servers. At least AC7 had half decent matchmaking. Even Infinity was better than this garbage.
>>583353112This is one of the hardest lines of 2026.
>>583355961That's not even remotely comparable. Using a HOTAS is more realistic and perhaps more enjoyable for some people but it makes you worse. Using novice controls can be easier but it will always massively hamper your performance ceiling.
>>583359750You think Osea pushed for railgun warnings to become standard after the Lighthouse War?
At which point do you guys think that Ray might have switched to a Super Hornet?
>>583359883Yep
>>583359712Thank you for the shoutout anon, the dolphin porn is being downloaded as we speak.It's unfortunately not the complete soundtrack but it'll do. I simply need the megafloat ost
>>583359454>>583359712found it>>583054253
Does the general’s ac8 squadron actually play together?
>>583359991nobody in any general plays with people from their general because we all hate eachother
>>583357302Not even corporate executives, they're fucking cryptobros. That's why their plans are so retarded and detached from reality.
>>583360039>we all hate eachotheTrue, and i hate myself too
Is there any way for "Press F" prompts (like shake a dude's hand, get off the plane, etc) to actually look smooth? Obviously they're waiting on your input but even if I do it on the first frame I see it it still feels awkward.minor nitpick in my first AC game but I can't unsee it lol
>>583360064>ancapistani cryptobros dear God....
>>583360039we played with eachother in 7 despite it being the barest of bones multiplayer and it was a good time
>>583359883>tfw we still have to wait for the incident that causes people to put VIRUS ALERT in their planes>>583359991I have yet to pay enough attention to notice
>>583360110And D.D. is also a nepobaby. Well done Katabuchi.
Am I too hungry for Ace Combat 3 or does it feel like we're setting the stage for the Intercorporate War? Can't be a coincidence the game was set so close to the start of the events that lead to electrosphere and it covers a war that massively destabilized Usea regardless of the FCU's eventual win. (Plus all the AI cyberbullshit with enso.)
>>583360101It feels like you have to hold the input before it registers, which is a sharp contrast to how responsive the controls are in actual gameplay.
>>583360297just one game away buddy
>>583360297>does this game that reintroduced the FA-36 GAME have anything to do with electrosphereit's one of life's greatest mysteries
>>583354241>>583356285KEK
>>583360297dude
>>583360395>>583360429I know it introduces the FA-36 AND the Darkness of Enigma but I love electrosphere too much and I want confirmation that we're actually close to it getting its time in the sun and I'm not just deluded.
>>583360297Obviously, the real question is if they'll remake AC3 or will AC9 become a replacement of AC3 in some way
What should I get, f22 or f35? Based on my ac7 playthrough, I think I will only have enough MRP to get one of them before the final mission. I just beat the 2nd land battleship
>>583360528How might Electrosphere get 'its time in the sun' when it already had one time in the sun when it launched,and successive 'times in the sun' when new waves of fans kept learning about and playing it in the 2010s and 2020s?It has already had at least three waves of YouTube videos proclaiming it as an underrated masterpiece or something to a similar effect.What do you imagine, and what are you hoping for? Please elaborate.
>>583360912F-35 will serve you well and if you play decently you'll have enough money to get an F-22 by the time the final few missions are up and you have to engage with air only targets.
Is there any honorable weapon/jet to defeat the LAAM spammers consistently?
>>583360912Su-57The F-35C is a carrier plane at least, you want a good one if you don't have a Rafale or Super Hornet
>>583361061>ConsistentlyNo
>>583360912You get the best of both worlds with the Su-57, but I'm not sure how far you'd need to cross the aircraft tree to get there.>>583361061I wonder if stealth parts on a HCAA plane would work as a sniper hunter.
>>583360912The Su-57 has the best loadout with QAAMs and LACMs but F-35 is really solid too
>>583360937I just want it to get an official successor, remake or thematic followup that keeps the immaculate vibe of the original intact and gives me more crazy cyberpunk planes to play with using the modern AC graphical fidelity and controls. Phrased it badly, sorry about that.
>>583361061ECM+TLS Morgan.There's literally no counterplay to it as you will out-turn LAAM Jets and they won't be able to get guns/missiles on you. It is literally the most cancerous playstyle at the moment.Bonus points if you have a second morgan with MPBM/ECM to set up guaranteed furball kills.Not honorable in the slightest, but easily the most broken.Alternatively, LAAMs do jack shit up close so just keep your eyes on the radar and dodge them, it's not that hard.
>>583360528No anon, the entire game is just an elaborate shitpost.The next Ace Combat game will be set on an alternative universe 1950's Earth - all the signs are right there.
>>583361345ASSAULT HORIZON ZERO?
>>583352065You're alright, nepo man.
>>583352751I'm so proud of my boy
everflow is fuckin insanely good
I don't understand why they downgraded the Gripen when it's blatantly superior to the Mirage.
>Fought against what was obviously a 4 stack with 3 MIG-31's lauching LAAM's while a Growler supports them with EWSIs this how Aerial engagements work irl? Cause this was torture
>>583361271No worries.I have a feeling your wishes will be earnestly met.
>>583361878The LAAMs IRL are even Longer
>>583361878>>583362005irl they'd have about 10x the range kek
Jokes on you, the franchise will die before it's return to the magnum opus
>>583361878yeah to an extentradars all speak to eachother while planes are no more than a vessel to launch a missile at high speed so it can fly furthertheir own radars and ground radars speak to the missile and the missiles radar to then seek out and rape whatever is at the end
Man i fucking love Dealer.When HE RISES UP ABOVE for the task in M27 and starts commanding a whole fucking legionAnd at some point was only dealing with 3 basically planesI think he's my favourite AWACS
>>583361878>>583362005Funnily enough, LAAM spam was the meta in 7's MP too if you stripped away the scifi magic weapons like EML and PLSL. PA still can't balance for shit.
>>583362120it did suffer through a lot of F22 QAAM spam tho
The music is so much worse than AC7 I'm not actually enjoying the game that much, mechanically I can tell everything is a bit better but I don't feel anything while playing it.
>>583361846I thought it was above the Mirage in 8
>>583361878Not at all. IRL those missles would come from over the horizon, and you couldn't dodge or flare them, but just drain their energy by running back in circlesAC weaponry is baby dogshit compared to what we have IRL
>>583362096Whenever his name is mentioned I think of this:https://youtu.be/HSZIej-ZraE
>>583362229That's a shame!
>Gripen>SASM>6AGM>LAAMWHy would anyone use anything else?
>>583362120>>583362221>mfw gripen with max mobility and SASM spamSo much butthurt. God, it was glorious.>>583362283Nah, it's under both the Rafale and Mirage, one tier below in SP and maybe 1 or 2 in MP too. I can understand the Rafale, it's like 20 years newer or something, but not the Mirage.
>Constantly get the sweatiest, most unhinged, anti-fun people possible in Assault>Finally get a boss fight>This
>>583362221True, but QAAM spam was easy to filter out with better parts and speed/energy management. Plus the smarter players figured out you could hug the terrain to lose the missiles (I was not one of those smarter players). Still, 7's EML was straight up cancer and never should've made it beyond playtesting.
>>583362620I get people failing the Chandelier fight, since its an Ace Combat 6 exclusive, but how do you fail the Alicorn?
>>583362407All of the Euro planes have great loadouts, Mirage, Gripen and Rafale can easily carry a playthrough and the Su-57 mogs both Americans
>>5833627246 of them were in Fighters. The LAAM spam meta has broken peoples brains
>>583362520It's a higher "tier" of craft than the Mirage. Unlocked later and costs more.But yes, the Mirage is better because it has better SPWs, UGBs too stronk.
>>583362520SASM was a pretty gay SPW in 7 too, to be fair.>stacks points just by vaguely lobbing missiles at you>doesn't even do meaningful damage, it just shits out points because ?????
>>583362724Personally the Alicorn was the only boss I had never fought despite playing every game because I never bought the dlc
>You can unlock a "Yo, buddy" nickname, but you need to fly the Morgan 50 times
>>583362306Both Chinks and Ruskies claim their newest BVRAAMs can do 400km but I wouldn't trust that claim until it's proven in combat.
>>583362407Rafale gets a very strong a2g option with LACM and the best a2a option with LAAM.
Are Project Aces based enough to put cute Aermorph decals in the shop?
>>583362520>>583363102SASMs are hard countered by running the armour boosting part, turns them into scratch damage that barely scores points. Plus I found that most SASM and QAAM players relied on the missiles to do the work and couldn't manuever for shit. It made complete sense why we banned QAAM and SASM from Shootouts, but against randoms I could tolerate them. EML can still get fucked, however, absolute horseshit weapon with zero counterplay.>>583362841See, this is why I want a good multirole. My F-14A was good for most missions, but absolutely sucked against Alicorn due to the Fighter damage debuff against ground targets. Although I was retarded and forgot that I had a F-4E with UGB in reserve as well.
idk much about this dision fella but i'm following him to general resource
Whats the point of XSDB? They seem like just another flavor of AGM but with some splash damage, which is nice but you are still at multi-lock targeting mercy.
>>583363234>zero counterplay.Stealth LAAM sniping. Which brings us right back to nobody getting to have any fun.
who is exactly is the princess in the space elevator? is it still ace 7 cossette or one of her sisters?
>>583362724>>583362620People are also just really REALLY bad at focusing TGTs in MP. If they can't destroy it in a couple passes they just give up and fuck off to softer targets. It's infuriating.
>>583363192Fucking European bias I swear to god...They took the LAAM from the Su-35 and replaced it with HCAA and then to top it off replaced its LASM with LAGM. Meanwhile the Rafale gets a stat boost and keeps LAAM/LACM.
>>583363319AFAIK XSDB being a bomb means it does significantly more damage to ground targets. AGMs are kinda shit to be honest.
Stop giving me tutorials! I'm playing the second time on the ace difficulty I know how to play the game already!
>>583362914The Mirage has better A2G but much worse A2A options. I think that's pretty fair.
>>583363730clearly you dont
>>583363730GOTTA STAY STRONG
>>583363649AGMs already oneshots everything they hit already on attackers and avoids crashing in elevation as well
im going to be old as shit when 9 releases
>>583363629And then to top it off they wanted to compensate the Russian tree by making the fucking vaporwave piece of shit Su-57 their OP jet. Thanks, PA. And then removed half the Flankers. Go fuck yourselves. Yes, I am a salty Flanker enjoyer. No, I am not Russian.
>>583363461Its Cosette, her retardation immediately gives it away.
do I want 60 frames at max settings or 120 with slightly less? I'm a 4090 chad
>>583363730Anon, a crab is not a sun, okay?
PEEPEE actual reporting in
>>583363812AGMs absolutely do not one-shot anything that isn't basic AA, SAMs, trucks etc. The moment you start getting into more fortified structures, ships etc. XSDBs beat it.
What's the point of LASMs if LACMs oneshot ships anyway? Can CIWS shoot down LACMs because I don't think I've seen that happening once during my first playthrough
>>583363234Newfag here, what kinda maneuver is there in this game other than cobra and turning really hard
>>583363954>What's the point of LASMs if LACMs oneshot ships anywayIdk, capacity? LACM is just better in every other way, yes.
>Finally unlock LASMs >Do slightly too little damage to oneshot a destroyer>Reload is so slow its impossible to use all of them in a match>No parts to increase damage or decrease reload
>>583363449True, but I'd argue you can thereotically use flares against LAAMs (assuming lag doesn't fuck you over). If the EML pilot can aim your only hope is to terrain mask, but that just neutralises you as a threat as well and lets back to the same problem.>>583363629I thought the Su-35S gets HVAA over LAAM? But yeah, LASM to LAGM and the stat nerf from getting reclassified as a Multirole stings. I think the Su-33 may be a better Flanker choice with RKT as the A2G option that also works against big flyers like the Podarges and Arsenal Bird.
>>583363234Running armor boosting parts is a very specific counterplay and even then it was only effective if the SASM user exclusively focused you or the people you matched up with all telepathically decided to counter-play the SASM user before the match starts.The name of the SASM game was ultimately to farm points, and there's always at least one goober in the lobby to farm off of because he didn't run armor.The variety in how well randoms can use them really does extend to the entire spectrum of SPWs.
GPB is the best anti ship weapon
>>583364038time to git gud
>>583363629Seriously, the only Euro plane that kinda got screwed is the Typhoon (my beloved). 8AGMs still lock stack and only give you 4 full volleys worth of ammo (or 2 if combined with another SPW), and it's swapped out HCAAs for 4AAMs.At least it still has LAAMs so it's still usable in the current meta.
The supertomcat is busted
>>583364289It's a cheap LAAMboat, of course it is.
>It's a terrible strategy, isn't it?>NO
>>583364289Its just a worse Foxhound
>>583363187R-77 is an absolute piece of shit lol
I hope the YF-23 isn't shit.>inb4 it reprises its role as an insufferable stealth LAAM boat
>>583364470First skill it unlocks gives LAAM range increase tho
>>583364251I'm astounded that they didn't fix the lock stacking. It was already baffling that it made it to 7 without someone noticing that it FUCKING SUCKED and changing it during development, but for it to stick around for another game? What's wrong with these devs?
>>583363836Look forward to the Su-37 being a P2W option in an upcoming Ace Pass.>>583363954I think LASM gets a damage buff against naval targets, but that's only a factor in Online where enemies have more health and aircraft classes influence damage output. For campaign, LACM is the dominant A2G weapon.>>583364128True. To be honest I ran the armor boost all the time, mainly to avoid getting oneshot by EML until I noticed that it also helped against SASM. I know enough to know I can't avoid every single hit, and sometimes it's worth taking a hit if that aggression lands a kill.>>583364859PA can't balance for shit. Remember it took over a decade (from 6's MP to Infinity to early 7 MP) for them to nerf QAAM.
>>583364251Yep. The best way to go through the aircraft tree on a first run is basically Mirage - > Gripen -> Rafale. The only reason to unlock other planes is if they block access to parts you want, like you should buy the Mig-21 early so you can buy the UGB capacity part. >>583364097Yeah, it's HVAA, which is actually better, but still. LAAM > HVAA so that's a nerf and while LASM isn't as good as LACM it's still way better than LAGM.> I think the Su-33 may be a better Flanker choice with RKT as the A2G option that also works against big flyers like the Podarges and Arsenal Bird.RKT is not great. It's fine for cheesing big air targets(and the Ladens from M15) but for actual ground attack it's meh compared to UGBs. At least the Fullback gets UGBLs which are actually pretty good but its other A2G SPW are fucking 4AGMs which do not work with UGBLs at all.
what's with people altf4 ing from F4s, it's actually pretty good when maxed
>>583365096Nah, they'll put a base SU-37 in you can buy with zoll then sell you Yellow 13's SU-37
total noob at AC here playing for the first time, i'm on like mission 4in AC8, i get a missile lock on an enemy and it seems completely random whether or not they can juke it, what obvious thing am I missing?
>>583364859My guess is that they want it to feel different to 4AGMs but in practice there's no scenario where lock stacking is even remotely useful
>>583364801I hope it does, I'm loving the F-14D and MiG-31
>>583365172It'd be nice if you could see other people's plane levels in the lobby. Sometimes you can tell they're high level from the special weapon but sometimes you can't.
>>583362724I have the opposite issue, Chandelier dies way too fast.
>>583355997
>>583365373>i get a missile lock on an enemy and it seems completely random whether or not they can juke itwateasiest way is just shoot a missile when they are flying straight when you are chasing them. if that doesnt work shoot at closer range
Done several sorties so far. Not a single completion. Such bullshit.
>>583364801It had HVAAs in 7 and couldn't PSM, the FB-22 was the real insufferable "fuck everybody's fun" pick with LAAMs and full PSM capability.
>>583365505I just mean that I acquire missile lock. sometimes I score a kill, sometimes it misses, is that just expected behavior?
>>583365475>fully unlocked barricaderwhat the fuck
>>583365526Normies can't do Alicorn or Chandelier, they never go down the barrel
>>583365526the shitters will stop playing after a while so take a break first
>>583365475I think you might have slightly better planes than most people here.
>>583365373ace combat is all about positioning. generally you want to be in a position right behind (or in front also works) the target for a guaranteed kill. if the target you're chasing is flying perpendicular to you it doesn't take a genius to figure out that the missiles you fire will not hit. As you get more experienced you will be able to predict when missiles will connect and when they won't
>>583365373Some named enemies can pull out bullshit moves and dodge most things you throw at them but for regular enemy planes just wait until they finish turning or you are close to them. Basically just observe how an enemy moves. Sometimes they will still evade if they have enough distance and start another maneuver but often you will score a kill. Also clouds impact missile lock and tracking
>>583352302>Probably in her mid to late fifties>Looks BETTER than she did in her twenties
does the battlepass progress by just normal gameplay?i don't have to just focus on gay challenges and can just enjoy the game?
>>583365172Some players think it's shit by default because its the starter plane, not realising levels on an aircraft matter more than its tier or Lv1 stats.>>583365450In theory, if you purchase the level unlocks immediately, you could have double SpW on a Lv1 plane, but that would require grinding money and blueprints on a different plane beforehand. You don't need to hit the level cap before unlocking levels.
>>583365635You acquire lock when your target is in range regardless of what they're doing or what their relative heading is. Whether you can hit them depends on their heading and manoeuvres. If you're firing from off-angles your missile will just whiff.For a start, look at the SHOOT indicator, if that shows up you're in a decent spot to hit your target(but it's by no means guaranteed, you'll pick it up naturally as you play more).
>>583365635its not random anon. the missile still follows a path and it doesnt turn 90 degrees. just shoot then when the planes are not turning. you will get used to it
>>583365726So the lock is not absolute. I guess I thought you couldn't really dodge missiles anymore with modern planes so once I had a lock they were dead to rights
>>583365635Missile lock isn't a certain kill. The missile is worse at moving than the plane it's chasing (unless it's a semi active radar). You're expected to rock up behind the enemy in the cleanest possible straight like at a close enough distance where they can't evade it. There's a reason why your wingmen constantly warn you of enemies on your 6.
>>583365526This is why I like scramble. It's simple enough that a single person can carry it if needed.I do like the general purpose blueprints from raids though.
>>583352469Nepo baby corpo rat learns to be a real man
1 hour and 22 minutes - Sotoa disables the entire Usean military.
>>583365475When was the last time you showered?
>>583365864>>583365797>>583365815>>583365726thanks guys
>>583365561>it had HVAAsGenuinely forgot that, mainly because HVAA and LAAM both lended themselves to a similar playstyle in 7.>PSM capabilityEh. The 'True YF-23 Experience' in 7 was buffing speed, hiding from radar with your innate stealth, lobbing HVAAs into furballs and constantly trying to scarper off like a little shit whenever someone tried to approach you.
>>583365823>I guess I thought you couldn't really dodge missiles anymore with modern planesyou get special weapons and upgrade that do almost exactly like that
>>583365649It's kinda good, but the Mig 31 is still far more reliable than it when it comes to Air to Air engagements, the LAAM range and one shot potential from it's special abilities is just too strong.>>583365717Anyone with a EA-6B Prowler and SU-25 can nuke the chandelier without any issues. in fact, I was way behind in score compared to one of our SU-25s until I got the lucky kill credit from the core (12K pts)Seriously if you're having issues with raids, run an ESM plane, it makes a world of difference when you're buffing 8 people, reloads are thrice as fast on all of your weapons, including SP.W, you get 25% more lock on range, and I think it also does more damage>>583365773Yes, but challenges speed it up considerably. Daily challenge is to just do one of each game mode and kill 3 targets
>>583356609Hmmm... I wonder where the anonymous backers of the organization that wants to destroy borders at all cost, even if it means using weapons of mass destruction, come from.Surely can't remember any similar event ocurring before.
>>583356285Chefs kiss that's perfect
>>583365823ace combat is basically ww2 air combat but with missiles, so not realistic at all. check out the AC7 multiplayer guide flying basics in the OP (especially the videos). It's for 7 so ignore all the turn rate stuff, just focus on the flying advice>rentry.org/acegMPguide
what mission gives the best and easiest monies for campaign?
>>583366025Prowler has ESM as its last special so it takes a lot of blueprints to get there. But yeah I get your point.
>RT is only used for the hangarhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OZW3FyfguwWhy does the game run so poorly otherwise then?
>>583366182>Game Adds a CPU if someone leaves in lobby>Match doesn't start if someone leaves anywayFor what purpose
>>583356285fucking lost my shit
>>5833661822710 minutes of dropping bombs and you make a shitload of cash
>>583366262Retard japs
>>583365823>I guess I thought you couldn't really dodge missiles anymore with modern planes IRL... not really. There are some techniques you can use to try and dodge missiles IRL but they're very unreliable and only work if the missile hasn't gone pitbull. You're definitely not dodging missiles with just a little jink like you do in Ace Combat.But that's really part of the fun, with these missiles you get to actually dogfight and outmanoeuvre other planes instead of just launching instant deathrockets at small green dots(But if you want to do that just play online PvP lmao).
>>583366262The way it makes you wait the full 60 seconds for the countdown and then waits a little longer just to cancel the game is fucked up too.
>>583366025>Yes, but challenges speed it upi'm just glad that i can just play it too and it goes up, i don't like when a game forces you to do dailies to do a battlepass
fuck i want to experience the campaign again
>>583366262>>583366182Missclicked but whatever, Mission 16 is pretty fast
>>583366342Yeah, I thought *getting the lock* was the hard part and the only reason it was really easy is because I'm playing easy mode for the first time (NOT story mode lol)
>>583366397It's 7 games per level, and there's 100 levels, so regular gameplay is 700 matches to complete the pass.
>>583366493it's just a little extra to speed things up is all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeinGOyKQGQ
>>583365963desu I liked the cat and mouse with BVR snipers in 7's MP. It only sucked if the sniper was so salty that they crashed into the ground on purpose to avoid giving up kills, but half the time the losers that did this crashed so often that they lost more points than they would've given out had they just allowed themselves to get shot down.
>oh no we're on our last legs and there's no port :(>send up the new guy in an FA-36 with an escort of three F-35s :)Same reason I'm not a fan of 5, the story and the gameplay dont match after the first run around
>>583356174I bet Tasha's dad is Yuke Intelligence, dude was everywhere he shouldn't be and that favor he called in was too convenient. Bet the DLC is him getting Rex and Tasha involved in a bunch of old Sotoan vendettas
>>583366768Between him and Oka Nieba I wouldn't be surprised if Yukes all just knew each other and had top level intelligence access because everyone is top level in glorious Yuktobania, comrade
>>583366735You know you can justNotUse endgame planes in early missions
>>583357573I hope Kate and Rex flying mission over Sotoa means the war kicked back off and we're on the salty runback
>>583366661>It only sucked if the sniper was so salty that they crashed into the ground on purpose to avoid giving up killsMan I completely forgot that being an actual thing people used to do.The first time I ever saw that I was genuinely baffled at the pettiness.
>>583366768>All the civvies are getting off the ship>Tasha is clearly disembarking as a civvie>Tasha's dad who is supposedly also a civvie and only there with Tasha is still with you on the ship like he's supposed to stick around WITHOUT his daughter
>>583366735The fact that you know literally everything that'll happen in advance because you already experienced it didn't set you off first?
>>583359740Miss that fat fuck
>>583366960Sotoa would be a scorched wasteland in that cutscene if trueI mean, more than it already is
>>583366735How is that any different for any other AC game except for AC3 which locks your loadout?>oh no we're nearly beaten and our last base in North Point is about to be bombed>Send up an experimental one of a kind X-02
Judge idolfags' taste in planes >>583323843
>YOU ARE SPARE SQUADRON 444 AND YOU GET ONLY THE SHITTY PLANES WE HAVE LAYING AROUND>and an experimental mach 8 plane from an alternate dimension for you trigger :)
FFS, why is the only fun online mode RNG
>the poisonous colored hair woman keeps calling me Ray>i thought it was a setup that i will no longer be called fake Rex once i actually achieved real kills and become Ray instead>it was not and its just a nicknamewtf bros why am i still rex
>>583366735this explicitly doesn't happen because the first few missions lock you to the F-18 but you would only know this if you played the gameit's also a stupid complaint that applies to every game that isn't on the PS1
>>583367536Uhhhhhh
>>583366963I used to play 7 on PS4, and the amount of petty bullshit I witnessed was unreal.>LAAM snipers quitting mid match when you chase them, only to rejoin via hotjoin, shoot you down, THEN quit mid match a second time.>EML shitters refusing to help out in TDM becasue they're still salty about you beating them to MVP in a match from last week.>Clan fags ganging up on you 3v1 in Battle Royal.>Clan fags ganging up on you 3v1 in TDM while your two teammates who are also clan fags sit back and do nothing.>Clan fags ganging up on you 3v1 in TDM while your two teammates who are also clan fags feed kills on purpose.>The guy who had a second PS4 with a second copy of AC7 set up so he could feed himself points.
>>583367818You're the king of the mantas.
does a scramble missions just show up at random after the 30 minute timer? or after a match? or just whenever at random?
>>583367818The spanish Rey is just how Rex was moved into Spanish, so maybe Yuktobanian is actually a Romance language.
Anyone else playing through on elite and noticing that sometimes enemy aircraft just... cheat?Like, doing Mihaly tier bullshit in just about any aircraft.
LAAMgods i kneel
>>583367965that's what they always have been doing
>>583367874My guess is a random chance that increases depending on rank and it increases further depending on difficulty, we're just stuck with only difficulty 1 rn.
>>583367965yeah but its not actually that bad just shoot them again
Is the multiplayer pvp or PvE?
>>583368047I've had multiple difficulty 3 games, including difficulty 3 scramble
>>583368146both
>>583368173I mean for the base assault co-op and co-op warfare.>>583368146assault is pv"p"ve (you're not really fighting, the goal is really always to get S rank, it's better to s rank and lose than to win but only get A) one is a pvp enabled version where you're actually competing and can shoot each other.
>>583368146PvE, PvPvE and PvP
Post your plen buddies
they should compensate me each time the netcode failst ot make a match lobby
>>583368045not sure i follow>>583368069I do but its getting annoying burning SPW ammo because the enemy pilots spontaneously makes an impossible 90 degree turn in a random direction as soon as a HVAA is about to delete them from the game
>>583368306Yeah that's what I mean, I've had difficulty 3 co-op warfare AND scramble. Difficulty 2 way more often though
how do you quit AC Online?I had to alt-f4
Why the fuck did they give the Foxhound QAAMs? Every fucking game is full of MiGgers zipping round the map at mach fuck, mixing tactics by double equipping long range missiles and close range dogfight missiles at the same time. Retardation from Project Aces there.
>>583368443Huh, I haven't yet, either way I'm expecting there to be more than 5 difficulties this time given that we're not all constrained by fucking fuel.
>oh boy it's another EA-36/Mig-31 team in warfareHoly fuck this is anti-fun
>>583368454I'm putting my money on them doing a hotfix patch after the first few weeks or a month to castrate the MiG-31. There has to be a bug with the parts allowing you to turn that thing into the AC7 Rafale and do UFO shit at 100 air speed.And we can only hope they remove QAAMs from it.
>>583367851I ran into a 2v1 Battle Royal premade on PC once. Wiped the floor with both of them, kek.
Watching some first time players reaction to the prologue alone and did Ace Combat really have some similarities with Metal Gear? I saw a few comments saying that and it was something I never thought about
>>583368445open menu > return back to SP > quit game
>>583368660"Metal Gear in the skies" is a pretty frequent comparison.
>they actually think PA will do balance passes on planes and SpWeaponsthey will "balance" ACO by releasing increasingly overpowered and overstatted planes that you have to grind to keep up
>>583368660They keep saying Metal Gear because that's their only exposure to Japanese military fiction. In reality, it has far more in common with Gundam.
>>583368403Has there been a mirage squadron in AC ?I love the french dorito and i wonder whose emblem i can put on.
>>583368428>not sure i followmax difficulty, in every gamethe enemy cheats to an extendalways has
>>583368454I'm morbidly curious to see how bullshit QAAM+4AAM/6AAM could be by stacking homing/lock range/missile speed.
>>583368443>>583368551First match I queued for
They aren't going to do any adjustments to the online. This is the best and worst it's going to get
>pay 20 for this piece of shit goyWhat the fuck, it's not even the last uncap.I'm keeping this shit on level 10
>>583368987Of course, the trick is knowing that both Kojima and Bamco are strongly also deep into real robot mecha shows/games. Sadly I am not sure if Bamco actually ever brought over Gundam writers or directors into Project ACE.
>>583368660Maybe? Kinda?I guess in the sense that they're both military fiction vidya made by Japs that consumed Western media and then went about replicating it in their own idiosyncratic ways.
>>583369081I never noticed it in AC7 when I cleared Ace 4 times because my deployments kept fucking my steam cloud sync and wiped my progress repeatedly. Why does it feel so much more blatant in AC8?
The game is so cool, but I hate it when the boss fight is just the fucking AI cheating with infinite flares, impossible acceleration and impossible turn radius. Ruins what's supposed to be a great fight on equal footing between huge characters.
>>583369202
>>583369346Were you spamming like PLSL or something in AC7?
>>583368620They should just replace the QAAM with HVAA or HPAA, leaving the SAAM as its most agile missile option.
>>583369381He only gets infinite flares. You can both out-accelerate and out-turn him in a Felon with the right parts.
>>583368987It's compared to Metal Gear because the dialogue is nonsensical and feels like it was written by an alien being given a description of human emotions.See: The entire conversation involving Baxter and Tasha prior her slamdunking the jet with the plane. Almost none of that dialogue made any sense.
>>583369508So am I just gimping myself for not using an F22 or a F35?
>>583369386You can unlock the Morgan without pay pigging?
>>583369562>>583368987*slamdunking the jet with the basketballFuck me I need sleep
scramble is the most fun gamemode
>>583369681He's upgrading it and realising that superplanes are fucking expensive to upgrade.
>>583369562the script itself isnt that good but Tasha was basically telling Baxter and Rex that how the rest of the world sees them/online image doesn't matter and to quit moping about it
>>583369809Damn shame. I'm not paying for the fucking battle pass of a mode that'll die in two months.
Do XSDB splash actually work on the alicorn? Wondering if i should invest into it or the SU-34
>>583369474I think the only time I ever used the PLSL was farming Fleet Destruction. Most of the time I was using the MiG-29 LARP'ing as the Ghost of Kyiv. I liked the F2A as well.>>583369505I'd be fine with that, makes sense to keep it as it's proper historical role as a high alt bomber interceptor.
>>583369886If fucking AC:I could last 4 years this game mode will be fine.
>>583369942AC:I played better out of the box then this did
>>583369886What's so fucking hard about a few co-op missions, like 2 pvp modes, and the occasional superboss?Who's the faggot in charge insisting everything needs to be PvPvE or PvP at all times?
>>583369670Yes. Obviously you're gimping yourself if you're not using the best jets in the game.
>>5833669638's multiplayer gives you points for Indirect Kills now when enemies you're dogfighting crash. That's one near thing about it, I guess.
>>583369474>>583369915As much as I love PLSL, I can see why it isn't in 8. It's just way too good against every type of enemy that you can see.
>>583370028Gay.
>>583370139I really don't get what you want. You can gimp yourself and still beat that mission on Ace. But obviously the fight won't feel "fair" if you're intentionally using lower tier aircraft.Isn't that the entire point of gimping yourself, making it so you can win even in lesser craft?
So what's the best multirole in Online right now? I'm guessing 18E or Rafale.
>>583370597Rafale. LACM with upgrade parts might as well be an ASMP/A and it gets LAAM as well.
I play the game, and when I get tired from being on my desk, I take a break browsing twitter which is full of ace combat memes, while I listen to paythfoughs of the game in the background.I am mind brokenIt's over for me
Does Shadow 22 have more dialogue if I leave him for the last? I autistically chased the first TGT and it happened to be him, and the last one just kept repeating generic lines like missile or lock-on or such. Still got my first E rank so what did that mission want, a quicker finish and/or more points?
>>583369942AC:I ran on pure, unadulterated, copium
Anyone figured how much of the campaign can be changed from your actions? So far I only noticed Jackpot 9 surviving in the liberation of Theve meaning she shows up in several later missions.
>>583371102There's different dialogue for every order of shooting down the Shadows in that mission iirc
>>583370241Then I want the enemy to not have infinite flares. Why are you defending that kind of bullshit lol.
>>583352006Rex, Coster called dibs
>>583362306are we already at the point where the missile is more expensive than the plane it's bolted on?
>>583363187They probably can do 400km in absolutely optimal conditions, that's typically how missile range in measured in non-classified documents (It's a figure called Rmax). So, a large aircraft travelling towards the launch vehicle at high altitude, that doesn't notice the launch, that makes no attempt to maneuver, has no EW protection or countermeasures etc. Against a fighter sized aircraft that actively attempts to defeat the missile? Cut the range in half at the absolute least, more reasonably two thirds. It's not really a lie per se, but people who treat these BVRAAMS as able to bullseye a fighter from 400km is huffing copium. The stated goal of a lot of these very long range missiles is defeating AWACS planes and aerial tankers.
>>583371102I haven't gotten back to it yet but I believe 28's formation changes if you take out 24 in an earlier mission?
>>583371202I don't know for sure, but I have a feeling if you say No to Baxters request to spare the Shark pilots they probably won't turn up in mission 28
Impossible content
>>583371303Ammo counts were never tracked for the AI. They have infinite SPWs too. >>583371403Yeah, pretty much. I wonder about the Meteor's 60km NEZ as well. If that's really true then it should be an absolute killer.Can we just hand out some fucking Rafales or Typhoons or Gripens to Ukraine along with Meteors? I wanna see them in live combat damn it.
>>583371539nah they do, every guy who reappears in m28 will still do no matter how much you antagonize them
>>58337147322s formation derp
Okay i started playing AC:8, and outside of random stutters, i'm enjoying myself. Got to mission 9 i think ? When you have to stop the landship by destroying buildings.Whats the level of kino thats waiting in the next missions ?
>>583371386Differences in what’s included in export packages make it difficult to compare exactly, but the price of a plane these days is generally something like $100 million minimum. The sixth generations are probably going to be around the $300 million mark. The very long range missiles aren’t exactly cheap but they also aren’t anywhere near that cost bracket
So anyone try AC8 without a SSD? Presuming it won't run as it's the only reason I didn't bother with pre-order
>>583372120I think a Meteor is around 2 million eurobucks. AMRAAM-120 is a bit over 1 million for the newer variants.It's still nowhere near the cost of even a 4th gen+++++++ jet, let alone 5th or 6th gens.
>>583372271I saw a thread on the steam forum of at least one person mentioning the game ran fine on HDD, but I doubt it.
>mission 26>Shadows chant sung by a womanThat was honestly kinda hot.
hello, relatively new/casual ace combat fan here, i missed the winder for the preorder so im bummed i dont get AC0, but im wondering if AC8 is worth it in terms of bosses and superweapons. the only things i know are the land battleships, the su57 squadron, and maybe the final boss(?) aircraft. im a big sucker for enemy squadrons and experimental/prototype stuff
>>583372569We only got two experimental planes
>>583372015There's a bit of a dip around the middle but you've got some proper kino ahead of you still.
Online is going swimmingly
>>5833727123 since the model for the "Su-57" is actually based on the T-50-6.
>>583371587Let me guess, people used F-14's and MiG's with LAAMs.
I can definitely recommend the F-2A after maxing that bitch out.Fast enough to extract itself from any trouble it runs into and the UGB/LASM covers pretty much any target on most maps.
>>583372120>>583372382Interesting, I guess the cost is mainly on the jet engines? Since both have radar, datalink, complex software, etc... I guess there's also the difference in size, a Typhoon likely has a much bigger radar than the Meteor it's firing
>>583372382The very long range ones cost a good bit more, being much larger missiles, but yeah for the medium ones like AMRAAM you’d really need to be carrying an ace combat warload for the cost to be anywhere near equivalent. SM-6 is something like $9-10 million though from what I’m seeing online, and while AIM-424 doesn’t have much information disclosed I’d imagine that’s not any cheaper, so that would certainly run up a big tab if you’re flinging those around constantly
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>>583372569AC8 might have the most superweapons out of all of the games. It doesn't have many enemy ace squadrons like AC0, but instead one larger elite force that shows periodically like 4's Yellows or 6's Strigons
>>583373104But you get a lot more variety even though they're all the same "squadron". Yellows are always in Su-37s and Strigons in Su-30s, the Shadows use all kinds of different jets which makes each encounter feel more unique and more like Zero's Ace squadrons.
<<See it's a terrible strategy isn't it?>>> NOhttps://youtu.be/gBU-BV-g-fA
>>583373035>SM-6 is something like $9-10 million Damn, seriously? That's almost as expensive as the ASMP-A. And that's got around 500kms of range.Could we just slap on some basic radar on that thing and use it as a long range air intercept option?
Honestly the OST is growing on me but whatever plays during the 1000 planes mission was my least favorite by far
>>583372992Engines are pretty expensive, as are the various electronic systems like radar, irst, das or similar systems, any potential onboard jammers, and the airframe itself can be quite expensive especially on stealth aircraft and that scales with size. Building in margin for an aircraft to survive a decades long career also adds a lot of expense, whereas while a missile might go up on a plane repeatedly it will only ever be fired once.
>>583373549If we figured out reusable rockets why can't we do the same for missiles?
>>583373312RIP AND TEAR
>Make EW aircraft their own bespoke class>There's only three of themWhat did they mean by this
<<They're sending the entire Sotoan airforce!>>https://youtu.be/xgcap-5IBsY
>>583373628Are you retarded?
>>583373628You're joking, but I wonder if they've ever tried multi-stage missiles? Not counting ICBMs of course.
>>583373784A missile is just a small rocket, isn't it? Why wouldn't it work?
>>583373628>>583373879>>583373870putting a decoupler (more explosives) on a thing meant to explode is generally a bad combothe answer is fuel and weight
>>583373436A lot of the issue there was fairly low production lots driving cost up. We can reasonably expect cost per unit to come down significantly since a massive $24.4 billion contract was just signed for SM-6 alone. It will still be pretty pricey, since they shoved anti air, anti surface, and ballistic missile defense capabilities into one missile, but if they got it down into the $5-6 million range I wouldn’t be shocked.
>>583373312>yfw << THEY WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE RUNNING AWAY >>
>>583373879
>>583373879In case this is real, it's because the missile by design is destroyed so there's nothing to recover. Even if they did somehow survive the explosion, they'd fall over active warzones which means you aren't getting them back anytime soon and you could even be feeding your enemy free "reusable missiles". Also any combat over water would make them unrecoverable since nobody is financing a deep-sea trawling expedition to recover one or two "spent missiles". They leave whole planes down there whenever they go for a dip off the carrier.
>>583373696Project Aces saw showdown and decided to escalate even further
>He cleans his planes
>>583373870Boeing has a concept for a two stage air-to-air missile, I think it's for the LREW program.Also many surface launched missiles are two-stage. The previously mentioned SM-6 has an SRB lower stage for initial ascent. There was also a concept for a two-stage ground launcher version of Meteor, I'll see if I can find the image now.
>>583374072>mfw
>Know the Online is complete dogshit>Keep coming back to it>tfw traded out War Thunder for thisMaybe I should check out Nuclear Option...
>>583374137>>583374005Well, a reusable rocket just flies back to its launch point, right? So a reusable missile would explode if it hits the target but if it misses or loses radar lock it just flies back to the launching plane and reattaches itself to the rail. Then if it's got fuel left it can be fired again(with reduced range) or refuelled once the plane lands.
>>583373696What do you even do when ONE guy destroys your entire airforce at once?
>>583373312>mrw
>>583374278meant for >>583374045
>>583374347I didn't know they let the intellectually infirm on the internet, I thought they kept people like you in a ward.
>>583373085
>>583373684That there are not many fighter sized dedicated EW aircraft out there, notice how two of them have the same country and service branch of origin and the other one is a variant of a fictional model.
>>583374347we haven't sent enough autists in space to develop the awareness of the human condition or technology required to develop funnels
>>583374471Everyone doubted SpaceX when they started testing reusable rockets too. And yet they made it work.
>>583374508That's kinda my point. Just feels like a pointless change
>>583374508I mean if you think about it a plane is just a really big reusable missiles. And we've already figured out unmanned flight.Even if it needs assistance from a remote operator there's no reason this shouldn't work.
>>583374347Fuel is heavy and expensive. Modern day missiles are designed to use as little fuel as possible, they run out of fuel before even hitting the target. The final stages of the flight are underpowered. Adding more fuel for it to sometimes RTB is wasteful. At that point it's basically an UAV. And I doubt having a missile flying back towards the plane that launched it like a lost puppy is ever a good idea
is it really 1000 planes?
>>583374590>>583374347You have a fundamental misunderstanding of how SpaceX or reusable rockets work which make me have to assume you have an IQ of 50. They DO NOT fly back to their launch point, they fly to preplanned landing sites. It's physically impossible to carry enough fuel for it to reattach to a pylon because they often use solid fuels.
>join coop>LAAMwagons eat up all the high point targetswats the point
>>583374842Ok, so just have really big refuelling planes with a bunch of missile dock points set up. Like an airborne aircraft carrier but for missiles instead of planes.
>>583375003use laam too
>>583374828No
>>583375067my favorite plane doesn't get them
>>583375023you should bring your ideas to the current DoD or whatever the fuck they're calling themselves, i think you could get a military contract
The rts games in Strangereal have got to be crazy. Superweapons would be in their milsim games. I wonder what countries people complain about on their map games.
>>583375023I need to dissect your brain to figure out how a being as retarded as you are can even function, letalone post on this site. You are an absolute specimen.
>>583375253It's all just Command and Conquer there
>>583359991I tried to yesterday but it took me so long to figure out how to set up a squad my buddy left. if anyone wants to squad up I’ll be on in around an hour (11am pst)
I'm split between further committing on the MiG-29 or changing to work on the F-15E instead. The Fulcrum's too fucking sexy for it's own good but I dunno if I want to take it to 20, feels like a waste.
Is the coop actually fun? I don't care about stupid progression, is the moment-to-moment gameplay better with people and are the missions designed well?
>>583375220Thank you. I hope one day I can be a great designer like Pierre Sprey. >>583375413You still haven't told me why my ideas couldn't work, you just called me rude names.
I thought I'd be bottom of the scoreboard every matchbut I kept a few of the suggestions I've seen here in mind while playing my one match of the day and got MVP in the F-4 without trying to hard.Not that scoreboard wanking fucking matters of course, but still: thank you for all of the solicited and unsolicited advice.
>>583375989>Is the coop actually fun?LOLLMAO EVEN
>>583375253>the Excalibur from the Belkan focus tree is fucking useless>zero bonuses to navy>pitiful ground bonuses>yeah sure, really strong air bonuses, but Osea can just slap 20+ factories on fighter production and call it a day>damn anti-Belkan bias>at least the Belka airship spam build still works
>>583375989Emergency sorties and scrambles are but grinding for them to happen is not
>>583373436We literally do, its called the AIM-174
>>583375989I like em, optimising the runs is fun, but we desperately need to get rotating cost limits in.
>>583375989No. The missions are 5 minutes long and you'll never be able to fight air targets because some migger with shoot them down from 10,000 meters away.
>>583375253You can make custom civs for AoE2DE, I was thinking it might be fun to do various Strangereal nations as civs
>three matches>two emergency sortie procsHoly shit Sorry I'm stealing all the superweapons, buddies.
>>583376393>>583375253Logic Games' Minds of Plastic IV
>>583376763are you doing warfare or coop
>go inside tunnel>everyone loses their shitwhich missions can you go inside the tunnels? theres like one where they get bombed into oblivion and the megafloat which was pretty meh
>>583376916Mission 4
Shit, what do I do now.
>>583372784For me its 3200003...
>>583377318touch grass
>>583366397cmon man the dailies aren’t even bad, literally just play one warfare and one coop and they’re done
>>583376871Warfare, Alicorn Proc, Assault, Warfare, Arsenal Bird proc. Was just trying to do dailies and max out General Blueprints.
Should I just go all in on the E? It has SODs and QAAMs so pretty versatile, but there's other planes I want to level and it's so fucking expensive to level something to 20.
>>583376916The power plant one is fun. Make sure you have bombs.
>>583377802the solar power plant?
I lost my copy of the delay the final attack aigaion meme from the infinity days. I miss that era
>why yes lets remix these songs multiple times these autists with love it
I can fly through thousands of trees, but one light post on the megafloat kills me
>>583377761>purple magic F/A-18Eyou already know the answer mr based
>>583377318Go empty the bucket. It's probably getting full.
>>583377318Post your playtime.
>>583378123https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/leitmotifBlame Wagner
WE HATE DOGFIGHTING IN THIS BITCH GET FUCKED FROM 10,000 METERS BITCH
I appreciate that the air targets in Assault will either be complete lobotomites that fly in straight lines that you can farm freely or just go into infinite loops just tight enough to dodge everything. Not at all obnoxious
>>583378429Playtime is way overinflated due to the fact that queueing takes fucking forever
do these missile damage parts even do anything? i have equipped 3 missile damage parts and it still takes 2 missiles to kill planes and tanks. are these piece of shit useless or am i doing something wrong?
Is there any reason to get the ea-36? It's worse than the fa-36 in nearly every way?
Game ends with a budget version of the AC7 DLC last boss
>>583378654I meant your hours. On steam. (if you're on steam).
>>583378831What DLC missions do you think they're gonna do for AC8?
>>583378835This does include just leaving the game onBut I did take off two weeks from work just so that I can enjoy this game without any responsibilities. I was that starved for AC
>>583377318seeking employment would be a good idea
>>583379014I have a guy on my friends list who has played an unholy amount of this game, I just checked, he's reached 106 hours. What the fuck.
>>583378953I don't know to be honest, playing this game made me wonder if they ran out of ideas, it was too long or maybe the formula doesn't lend well to much variety. Not looking forward to more dogfight boss fights where they just somersault through the air on a dime and I don't want another points based ground based mission
>>583378654>aerial kills>fighter sorties
>>583379014>just leaving the game onSo it's safe to say you've actually played the game for 72 hours (3 full days) total in the span of 6-7 days? >>583379161>106That's like 15+ hours a day since the moment it popped in advanced access.
The score disparity between aerial and ground targets is hilariously fucked
>>583378167I'm goin all in on Purple Magic. Campaign narrative beats and their missions being top tier aside it's just one of the coolest emblems ever. I guess the The F-15E and my F-16 will have to wait until I max this out. At least I can fit the F-14A in at some point since it's relatively cheap to max out to 20. Fuck the F-14 is still such a sexy plane. I'm also maxing out the A instead of the D because I refuse to use LAAMs
>Finally try out online after healing all the bad things about it>Don't want to be a faggot so I take the F-14A with literally zero parts aside from red smoke>2 Very competent teams make the mission a breeze>Get a scramble immediately afterwards>MVPGuess it's fine as long as you avoid co-op warfare? Even the guys in the morgans do ~OK.
>weekend>still takes 2-3m to find a warfare matchthis is beyond dead already
I came to a conclusion that AC8 is a game that pretty consistently sits in the "lows" territory but has really high highs. It's not bad but it is pretty mid tbdesu.
Now I've beat this game I'm struggling to understand what about it made every reviewer cream their pants over it in a way that AC7 specifically did not, they're the same game, both really good but AC8 isn't some 'breakout' success, there's nothing here that feels like 'they finally clicked the formula' since they nailed the series formula in the first game and everything since has been a refining of that
>>583379691HVAA are budget LAAMs and are just as broken beyond the range
>out of all the camos there are>get the frogfoot one twice in a row
>>583379835Maybe they liked the story more.
>>583377913No, the one with the 3 different ground attack teams.
>>583379343I'd say about 16 hours worth of campaign and 40 ish doing multiplayer
>>583377285is this it? they didnt lose their shit though
>>583379752I want to know where the objective diversity from 7 went? Stuff like the 'SAMs above the clouds' mission or the lightning clouds? We got like 50 'bomb the base' missions and the only one that was any good was the Megafloat which is probably the best mission in the game.
>>583366025what parts are you running for the mig31 and EA? also does the EA have psm?
>>583379851Yes, I know. Point is, I'm not getting these useless retard teams that can't pull their weight which everyone complains about in Co-Op assault.
>>583380296In the middle of the mountain
>>583380345>I want to know where the objective diversity from 7 went?buy the gamepass so i can release the DLC
How's the HPAA? I think the MiG-29 is the cheapest plane with access. Online UI is obtuse as always single player tree shows you everything a plane gets but the multiplayer hangar gives you ???
My Blue Sky Home hits too close whatever rock/metal I listened as a teen fuck
>>583380595>but the multiplayer hangar gives you ???This shit really annoys me.
>>583380468if anything i'd rather have those since MVP seems to increase proc chance
>>583380595Kinda shit, the plane isn't that good especially compared to the F14d for the same tier
If Ace Combat 6 had graphics like 8 and 8 had graphics like 6 no one would be saying this was above a B tier
>>583374828yes
>>583380595It was treated like some skillcannon kinda missile back in 7 and seems to be same here. I personally don't really get it, you get about 3 standard missiles worth of damage for one but its much worse to connect, QAAMs deal about half or something of its damage and SASM a little bit less damage with the kind of good launch you need to hit with one of these.
>>583381284AC6 is overrated as shit
>>583381417well i think you're a gay retard nigger with poopy homo AIDS, how about that?
>>583380483found it thanks
>>583380345you literally have the railgun above the clouds mission and the get struck by thunders in thunderstorms cloud formations
>>583374294You should.I know i have.Iran lookalike map soon™The install size is minuscule too (2.25 gigs listed for me rn).
>>583381284No you are retarded. AC6 is great but AC8 clearsAnd it pains for me but i need to say that to keep your tongue in check:as of today there's still nothing more cringe than the whole "Go dance with the angels!" thing
>>583367851Yeah as someone who played on both console and later PC the online was honestly much better on PC like holy shit
>>583381417It's good, but not peak of the series good. Missions are way too same-y, but when they shale things up they give you an amazing furball and some of the best superweapon fights in the series.
>love the fulcrum>it has always been absolute dogshit in every gamehow come they treat the fucking 21 better than my girl
I hope AC9 is about the real events that 3 was supposed to be a test run for.
>>583381530>railgun above the cloudsYou mean chase four lasers mission?
>>583381873It's less about the planes and more about what SPW they carry. Shit can be S-ranked using pretty much any plane when you think about it.
>>583369024One of the shadows squads does they dont get a intro but they show up on theve during the second recapture attempt. Besides that I dont think there has been could be mistaken though.
>>583381916they put the yuke-sotoa throwaway line in the campaign just so they have excuse to make another zerowe're never reaching 3
>>583381417There are games outside the 'holy trinity' that are even that popular in the fanbase? Barely hear anyone mention AC6 let alone overrate it
Alright, I'll ask:What happens to Blade 1 and 2 in Zero Hour? The prologue ends with them flying to support Cope
>>583382032Cuz most of the fans were on Playstation and 6 wasn't. 6 was good, nice open missions, and liberation of gracemaria mission is kino.
>>583381984No, one of the [RAILGUN WARNING] ones
Heh. Figured out how to make this repeatable, so now I'll just be a spooky random setpiece for others while waiting for players to stop disconnecting from my matches.
>>583382020Yeah that was my conclusion too. It's a shame because i like the little thing, and even if it's a previous gen plane i still want it to shine a bit.Unfortunately i don't have the shadow camo on online.Thanks anon.
Man this title looks cool but I really don't wanna run the Morgan 50 times.
>>583378729They do boost damage, but not enough to breach the 1-tap threshold. Makes it easier to kill shit with 1 missile and some machine gun fire I guess.
>>583382028They won't make another game that features the same country as a main antagonist. Especially twice in a row.
>>583382028What line? Must've missed it.
>finally get another emergency sortie>fucking alicorn again>half the lobby is miggers with LAAMs>alt-f4By the way if you do this you'll still have your emergency sortie when you open the game back up.
>AC:Zero themed season>No Excalibur fightok>>583382749The LAAM spam meta has unironically broken people's brains
Just starting AC8"Expert" controls are the same as every other game, right?
Is there any reason to S rank missions in online? I know in infinity you could have a small chance of refueling, but I cant think of any reason to S rank now
>>583382931you didnt play 7? i highly suggest you play 7 first
>>583381873If you love it, take it to 20 anyway
>>583383004Latest cope is that it increase proc chances on sorties
>>583383023I did play 7 but it's been a while and I forget if it had similar shit
>>583383168Were they fugging?
>>583383039I'll do it eventually, right now the grind is too fucked, I still need to level an attacker and an EW plane to cover my basesFor now I'll just cope and say I'm waiting for a -named- variant
So uhh... when are the MP sessions going on? Or are we all just playing separately?
>>583383004You get better rewards I'm pretty sure.
>>583383282Yes.Tasha is not for (you)
So did I overthink the Megafloat or was slowly hovering in a circle underneath it to get the Pillars a big brained strat?
>>583380439Here you go.Mig 31 one shots everything with LAAM, one shots everything save for F-22/SU-57 with QAAMI just got the EA-36 to 20, so I don't know what the Missile ability does, trying that out now. Yes, the EA/FA have PSM.Stats also lie.
>>583383601It's fineKate is much more my speed.Hot sweaty sex in the cockpit with Kate
>>583382749>get arsenal bird next>we face fuck itWhat is it about the Alicorn that filters people so hard?
>>583383418What mode?
>>583383418Why would I want to play with people that just spam the most cancerous shit
>>583383801probably people using lockons instead of raining UGBs
>>583383801railgunpeople can't hide behind the rocksor even figure out they are being targeted (i know i never manage to see it until its too late)
How many Ace Combat games does the man have in him?
>>583383801Alicorn is GND TGTs, ATA SPW cant target
I don't know why, but the space shuttle missions reminded me of this ancient pasta.
>>583384020Just hand it over so someone else. He didn't even work on 2 of the 3 best AC games but directed one of the worst ones.
>>583384020one more but that will break him by the amount of bullshit bandai namco will force into himhe then will build a indie spiritual successor that is superior in every way but won't find an audience and will be held on indefinite hiatus
How badly do you think the new age of Ace players will react to red Aigaion or Gold Stonehenge when they inevitably bring them back?
>>583384228Crumpling like a piece of paper.
>>583384228The only people still playing by then will be diehard nolifes
>>583383976I don't really get how the railgun works >Dodge the glowie areas every time>Still take damage sometimes anyway
>>583384187>Just hand it over so someone else.I suggest Activision.
>>583383665My big brained strat is F-15E go boom.
>>583384228>implying 99% of the playerbase won't be filtered by the multiplayer itself being tedious unbalanced shit by then
>>583384357git gud
>>583382356You get “You Still Alive?” after that as well
Damn it feels there's a lot of morons complaining about 'yap' or 'dialogue'. At least its an easy filter
>>583384357The Shockwave still does chip damage
>>583383814Idk, literally any mode? What's the point of a 50 person squadron otherwise? >>583383887The AC7 shoot-out lobbies were pretty cancer-free.
>>583384472Fuck, really? I'm guessing that's for 100 sorties. I'll do it at some point, I guess. I don't even have enough resources to level the morgan up, making it so I'm actually being productive while running it 50 times.
Do higher tier planes have stronger SPW than low tiers?
>>583383418I’m getting on now ping aperol_spritz if you need a wingman
>>583384749Not really but the higher stats does scale up damage so in a way yes
>>583384228>new age of Ace playersNone. Doubt most of them and players in general even touch the multiplayer and the ones that do and stick around won't really bitch about stuff much, they'll just want more content.
>>583384704Okay, im not joining the squadron though but ill queue, do you want to meet in lobby 98?
>>583351451>>Aces at War 2029>pastebin.com/WMkgZKYMPage 125 and 127 are duplicate
>>583385149>124jpg and 126jpgYou're right but these are the only scans we have.
Damn they have such a cool emblem
Finally.What a chore.
>>583384890Does LASM ever one shot the destroyers at high enough levels?
>haven't had a single Scramble or Emergency in daysWhat the hell is the randomness rate on this thing?
>>583385752LACMs are just better in every way
>>583375253Christ imagine their version of Hearts of Iron players. Oh man I bet Strangereal's Ace Combat games take place on Earth>Assault Horizon is their version of AC 5 and is a moderately successful franchise>AC5 is their version of Assault Horizon and universally panned
>>583385379Someone should rescan them and make them better
>>583385876Meanwhile Ridge Racer is a simcade franchise.
>>583385963If someone has the artbook and willing to do it - sure.
>>583376916You can pull it off near the end of the first Rocky Island mission. It's actually the best way to clear out land targets
>>583385000Uhh, alright. Just give me a sec, gotta get a handle on how gigacancer these menus are.Also I've only got low level shit, hope that's fine.
>Get into a match with only 4 people in it>Enough targets to go around without scrambling on top of each other>Pretty tight but managed an S>Most fun I've had all day>Immediately back to the LAAM spam meta afterwards>Last 19/20 games have had either a MiG-31 or F-14D MVPThere's no way this shit last more than a month if they don't do anything about it
>>583386336they won't
>>583386308I JUST bought the game last night, don't worry, idc what mode we do btw, still trying to figure out what plane I like and I don't know what any plane shit meansJust head to the change lobby npc by the challenges npc, other lobby
>>583375253belka would be the equivalent of the hoi4 players obsessed with nazi germany
Which difficulty setting if I thought AC7 on Hard was fairly challenging?
>>583385149Shit, thanks buddy. I got frustrated manually rotating and cropping images so I was definitely cutting corners.
>>583385610F-4 chads rise up. Glamrock Squadron livery fucking when?
Surely if I level the F16 I'll be able to out dogfight all these migs, r-right?
>>583386336I just want to know what goes through their heads when they slam pick a LAAM slinger for Chandelier or Alicorn
>>583387102These dudes deserve their own whole ass skin
Normies have ZERO target prioritization It's so easy to steal a win in Shilage by going after the howitzers
>Be Alpha>"I"m counting on you">Be Bravo>"Dammit come on"what did bravo do
>>583386995>>583385149Should be updated now. (124.JPG)
>>583377318Go outside
>>583352302Katabuchi gets very attached to his marketable young female characters. You’ve seen it with Nagase and Rosa and in 9 I bet you’ll see it with Tasha
Mission 27 felt like having to beat the walking fortress city in Armored Core 4A as one of the fodder in that mission and not a mech
>>583355997We don’t visit Gunther Bay in 3 so there’s no reason to get rid of the elevator
>>583387993SPIRITOFMOTHERWILL
>>583363187They can; it’s just that in practice modern ECM will make it a tiny fraction of that
>>583387993>>583388158White Glint would absolutely mop up on the topside of the Megafloat
It's taking me some time to get used to the new flight model but I really like that every plane I've used so far has very noticeably different handling.>the legacy Hornet flies like a brick but is more well rounded than other low tier planes>the Phantom accelerates fast and is best in a straight line>the Fishbed's high-G turns are insanely snappy but it cannot yaw for shit without parts>the Growler is slow as balls but it's very stable for minor course adjustmentsIt's a nice change of pace from every plane in 7 handling about the same.
I love the amount of futuristic shit in AC8, very surprised we didn't see any older planes retrofitted with COFFIN tech since in 10 years every single plane uses it.
>>583354486>Phantom with cruise missilesGIVE ME A MODERNIZED PHANTOM, PA YOU FUCKS
If I see another MiG-31 MVP on a mission with multirole and ground attack recommended I'm going to make Hoffnung look like a fucking joke
>>583388493man that book looks nice
I feel like I have a good set of general rules for some of the tricker engagements>Selene/nightmare/moon11/how many fucking names does this bitch needLiterally never drop below 1000 speed and always be afterburninng>Shadows with QAAMs/the felonsI initiate their "baiting" AI by firing a locked missile at them and engage at moderate but never max speed since you need to be able to pitch up and slice them with a sword of GUN fire>LadonsUnironically rehearsal for the SHADOWS with felons, burn to get into position, then stop burning so you can have some semblance of mobility (god planes fucking suck at steering at max in this game) then fly half 8's to sweep from below and above with GUN>CealekakisolrnI'm not 100% past massive AOE on how to hit those side weak spots, I did 95% of the mission, switched to "cover" so my wingmates could reduce my missile pings, and tasha straight up busted the final weak spot for me
>>583388394I sort of agree with youThe big issue I have is>Air to air and ground to air barsDetermine overall damage which can make the difference between needing 2 and 3 missiles for some targetsThe biggest issue is there's no way to expand their speed and alot of the game wants you to go from A to very far away B while escorting so they just need to fix>Long distance travel>The retarded damage formula>The fact that the parts system just serves to push late planes even obscenely more over early planesAnd they've got a good progression
>USEA instead of Usea
i saw a guy using the gripen splinter camo in multiplayeris it available for sale somewhere or are campaign ace skins usable in mp?
>>583358819Yes, Jenkins is bro-tier.
>>583358583He looks like he kills rats in the name of sigmar
>>583389290Might be level 20 skins
>>583389290You get the ace skin at level 20
>>583389621he was running stock sasm and no second spw so idk
>>583387993I'm still fucking mad how AC6 scammed us by showcasing that mining platform mission and leading us to believe stuff like Motherwill would appear again. Instead we got oops all Soulslop bossfights.
8 was pure kino and 20 - 29 was probably the best stretch of missions in the series. That said, I don't really know what they tried to do with the ending. It's like they tried to recreate 5, but unlike in 5, nobody actually manipulated Sotoa into doing an invasion, so sotoans cheering for Wings kind of comes out of nowhere. The extent of Enso's involvement seems to have been just giving Sotoa a bunch of free shit.Maybe if it had been established that Sotoa's civilians weren't actually in favor of the war it would have made more sense, but as is it kind of just looks like they got off with a slap on the wrist.
>>583389182So far I'm kinda on the fence with slots separated by category versus having one slot limit. Like the Phantom only has two body slots and in campaign at least you can't improve it's stats with leveling. I don't want my funny boomer plane pulling PSMs or anything but the pitch and roll parts don't do too much. If anything I think each plane needs 1 more body or weapon slot and one less misc slot. Misc parts still seem just about as useless as ever, unless EW planes use them in MP. >long distance travelYeah you can immediately these maps are HUGE compared to the other games. Annoying problem on some levels.>The retarded damage formulaYeah I'm not a huge fan of the way it works either, the parts to buff standard missile damage don't seem to do much.
>>583389669alright i seethanks>>583358418
I'm only 5 missions in... but there's so much fucking cloud cover, holy shit.I get that PA is proud of their cloud tech, and they want to show off how pretty the clouds look, but the missions still have to be playable.
>>583389854>I don't want my funny boomer plane pulling PSMs Psms are reserved for leading edge control surface craft and thrust vector craft
it's really cool how i can't side-dip into any of these planes i'm unlocking because of the progression mechanics
what does stability do as a stat
what's the total lv20 upgrade cost, anyway? like 200k moolah and then a 100 of the golden blueprints?
>>583390369i'm side dipping as soos as it asks for general plans
>>583390369>Zero choice>The only thing that matters is time in the modeHoly fuck was this mode.deaigned by Koreansand pachinko techs?
>>583390495It depends on the plane. Lower tiers cost less and higher tiers cost more, obviously.
>>583390495depends on the tier.This is half of the cost of the 15 uncap on morgan for ex
>>583390653forgot pic
>Experience a breathtaking campaign filled with high-stakes missions, hard choices, and deep squad connections.>hard choicesOkay but what choices were they talking about here exactly?
>>583383601>military assault quadcopter that must weigh a literal ton comically spirals into transport carrying highly explosive cargo>"WTF REX HOW COULD YOU DO THIS?!"bro...
>>583390886which planes to pick
>verified files>reinstalled>blocked and unblocked in firewall>synced clock>rebooted many times>reinstalled EACstill forever stuck on this loading screen when trying to enter online
>>583390653>>583390631>>583390863I don't suppose the japs made a spreadsheet already?>>583390886shoot down the shark squadron/f14d guys/other dorksor don't shoot them down>>583390953the servers have been fucky today, you mite just be unlucky
>>583390321I know I just meant I don't want the Phantom be that maneuverable.
>>583390890I'd bomb 1 million sotoan orphanages if it meant lil bee would stare daggers at me
>>583390997Doesn't make a difference, they bail
Soon i'll get every MVPs coops
>>583390997>unluckyIt's been like this since Monday, got early access and everythingMy steam account does have a 15 year old VAC ban but my only friend that plays AC has a 7 year old VAC and can still play online.
>>583391081Yeah even the mig31 is relevant all game on its speed aloneFor instance the a10 is worthless because persistent Sam pings and no speed
>>583391196they lose the airframes and won't show up in the penultimate showdown i thought?
>>583391328It doesn't make a difference, i shot them down and they still did show up
>>583391292It's a typical "jp can't online" shitshowPure and simple
>>583388493>combined-cycle turbine/ramjet engine>cycling fuel through the airframe to cool it before routing it to the engineFuck, hypersonic aircraft are so rad.
Nerf the MiG-31's mobility to the ground and make it a multirole by swapping QAAM with MPBM
>>583391328>Wtf planes arent one of a kindC'mon dude the only objectives that mission was >Bomb the sotoan navy>Add a few gray hairs to baxter
>>583391754Was the blackbird the first plane to use its own fuel as coolant?
>finally try the coop after beating the campaign>have no idea how anything works>half the time the lobby shuts down>realize the grind takes aeons>still buy the battlepass because I'm a zero fanboyThey knew what they were doing to get a few extra bucks, damn it
>>583391862Literally the only plane that beat the 31 at its own game in 7 was them releasing the Darkstar
>Infinity 2>but with less planes, less missions, less variety and significantly more grinding despite not being f2p this timeWHAT WERE THEY THINKING
>>583392160>Half the time the lobby shuts downI've 100% been kicked back to main menu on mission startIt's a wholly dysfunctional game mode and considering how it's implemented I wouldn't be surprised if someone intentionally sabotaged it to make sure it never sees the light of day
>>583392175I just think that the dedicated interceptor having better maneuverability than half of the roster is incredibly retarded
Are attackers just absolute shit in online for anything other than emergency sorties against bosses?>So slow that multiroles and fighters kill all ground targets before you get there>Dogshit in air to airMirage mogs everything early because UGB's as first SP weapon is just better and it can actually go semi fast.
>>583392030I'm fairly sure it was. Having fuel pull double duty like that only really enters the picture when you're pushing over Mach 3, if I'm not mistaken.
Is there any point in 8AAM? You'll never get to hit all 8 targets at once
>>583392608I think it's more due to how the game is designed but the result is still the same>Most engagements start with you tearing ass at 2500 speed, max speed +/- for most if not all planes in the gameSo>At max speed all planes have ass handlingI was watching a friend slam himself into the waiopolo with his new berkut because he was at max speed and couldn't steer worth a shitMeanwhile>Game has a lot of energy build "halp wings" situations2500 is middling speed for the foxbat, of which the highest I've gotten it to was like a 3189 speed descent Tl;DrThe foxbat is second to none simply because max speed cap is the biggest limit to maneuverability
>>583392913Cheesing arsenal bird
>>583391862The fact it can turn fight makes me want to just grab a Morgan and proceed to beam one to deathOn the subject of crafts, are skills fixed? Or you can get something else?
GOD FUCKING DAMN IT LAST 6 LOBBIES WERE FAILURES, EITHER CPU OR THIS FUCKING HELLBAMCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I'M SENDING A FUCKING V2 AT YOU
>>583392850Yeah at that point it's relevant because the plane needs all the cooling it can get>Increase altitude to minimize frictional heat build up from air molecules/atoms>Absolutely tearing ass with those twin jets>Massive amount of fuel flow allows for constant rapid circulation of "coolant"
>>583393326This twisted game mode unironically needs to be reset
>>583392850Depends, a few early WWII prop planes used fuel as an intercooler for engine oil, since air and water cooling had their own issues.
>>583351918>[ground] attacker guns point down for no good reason>[ground] attackers>guns point down>for no good reason
>>583393753What's the verdict on the fishbed MGP having different orientations
>not even 5 minutes to complete missions now>migger spamming LAAMs gets MVP>su-34 with UGBLs cleared the ground targets with ease>bro the missions aren't too shortGive us large scale missions with enough targets to sate 8 players for the love of fuck
>>583393950Ivan was too sober to think straight when installing them.
>>583394226>alicorn emergency sortie>chock full of metaniggers>still 60% failure ratetoppest of keks
>>583393950Barely even matters when it seems like the guns have such a large hitbox.
>>583394226Nah fuck that, either give good missions with good rewards or make this sht as fast as possible so i can actually sortie
>>583394336He's just built different
>>583394226>5 minutesThats what I have to look forward to?Sweaty mag dumps?
I found the secret to having fun>play warfare>ignore the enemy team>just fly Berkut with bombs and calmly fight ground targets and pop flares occasionally Comfy
>>583394496The Alicorn fight without his sultry schizobabble is just not the same
boy I'm really enjoying flying attackers, it means I can just get into match and come post here instead of playing
>>583391810Tashfoid or Malfsha?
>>583394496<< I'LL DO WHAT MY CAPTAIN TELLS ME TO DO - BRING DOWN THE ENEMY SUCCESS RATE TO 40% >>>>583394594factsit really feels like a temu bossfight
>>583393326Hey at least you can play at all.
>>583388546Would be sick to get the R/F-4EJ Kai with all the advances Japan has put into it.
>>583394540Yes. Online matches are pathetically short and there isn't enough targets for 8 players. You will finish matches before the 6 minute time limit every single time.
>>583394701>second spoilerI nearly misread that for a sec
The Railgun was more obnoxious than fun
>>583395062Using or addressing it?
>>583395131Dodging it and dealing with it in general
>>583394594"We can't raise the gun enough""Then flood the aft quarters to give me the elevation i need"Absolute king. He really wanted to be a mass murderer.
Is the Arkbird in the boss pool for ACO? If so, does it have the bug?
>>583395319No.We only have Alicorn, Chandelier and Arsenal Bird for now
>>583394830A Phantom with LASMs would be sick. Frankly I want the roster to Phantomaxx and put in the G and X, alongside the 2020 Terminator and the F-4EJ Kai. Hell throw in the Phantom with canarda that NASA experimented with, I will fly ALL of them.
Okay I've unlocked the Mirage in Online and the game is suddenly 3x times as fun, it has as many UGB as Frogfoot has 4AGMs and is so much more agile and fastI suppose I can enjoy myself until I bump into meta sweats?
>>583395219>Constantly in your way>Constantly forcing you to take an indirect route to your target>Constantly forcing force correctionsHonestly it's the best implemention of that tyrant/nemesis type feel from resident evil I think it keeps the game freshOtherwise it's always going to be what it Always was>Fly to the target>Blow it upThe level of threat that comes from the ground in general is just so high now and that's a good thing>AA forces you to bail out and attack elsewhere for from further>SAMs force you to build speed and attack lower or at faster more aggressive angles>Flak deters you from your current flight path>Railguns do all 3The way they apply to pre-existing flight mechanics is just so purposefully good
>>583395478>the three worst superweaponsWTF were they thinking?
>>583395762cucking the megafloat's defences by flying in at 10m altitude was fun
>>583395263Iirc his logic was>One single horrifying tragedy will prevent a longer war by killing public opinion for an ongoing warSo at least there was a logic to it
>>583395879Chandelier is cool, but people are retarded
>>583395929That's not logic, it's (unrealistic) reasoning.
>>583395879>Wtf were they thinking Some higher up probably told PA to implement this dog shit format so someone was probably all "1 MILLION Shitty game design choices!" And so it was made bad on purpose so the higher ups would stop asking them to try this crap in games that don't need it
>>583395904I thought I was clever doing that but apparently the UGB is OP there as it is in every mission in the game, I just assumed it would affect the pillars for some reason
>Cope and Thevelol
I really don't get the railgun complaints, as long as you're manoeuvring it can only do chip damage to you, it's designed to punish flying in straight lines.
>>583395929That's his pretext, maybe his delusion if we want to be generous.I choose to believe he simply really wanted to serve the purpose his ship was made for and kill a million people.
>>583396176I fucking hate cope so much>Is genuine dead weight and queen flight knows and a laughing stock early game and queen flight knows itSUDDENLY>Kate and everyone wistfully remembers how he was muh wind or some crap and everyone recalls his flying with reverenceFuckin stupud
>Shoot STD>Slow as fuck and miss>Shoot again>Goes mach 5 and does an impossible curveI don't get it, it wasn't under ESM either
>>583395929That's just the thinly veiled excuse.The whole spiel about beauty. recounting his time as a gunnery officer and the rest of the admittedly quite dense exchange between North and Torres at the end of Ten Million Relief Plan is Torres going mask-off and basically admitting that his real motivation goes as far as wanting to kill a shitload of people in a display of masterful gunnery.
>>583396363For me it's having missions where you're constantly in it's kill radius, the fucking Rocky road mission was like 40 minutes of Missile Warning stress the entire time
>>583392820The Fullback is a free MVP in any ground-heavy mission because all the MiGgers and Tincats are stuck slinging LAAMs at less targets and eating each other's lunch
>>583396456I mean if someone steals a million fucking dollars and that somehow translates to saving a million. Lives everyones gonna overlook the money he stoleSay captain Torres gets his million livesHe halts the war's escalation on the spot, gets treated as a martyr and a hero, and gets to kill his millionHe was a savant
>>583396781None of that tracks. If it did, then Strangereal would be in an eternal era of global peace since the 7 nukes.
What's the purpose of HCAA? They don't feel any better than regular missile.
>>583397048Yeah but that was belka nuking itself lmao
>>583397096just something to throw at a target whilst your regular missiles are reloading.
Do Submarines really have the supplies to stay under the sea for nearly 2 years without the crew starving to death
>>583397096>What's the purpose of HCAAAnother shitty AA option in a game with a wealth of shitty AA optionsYou'll take it and you'll like it>They don't feel any better than regular missileIirc the goal is to saturate for while your missiles are still loading
>>583396485He was a hell of a pilot, he just never shot anyone down. Joker squad was a propaganda squadron.
>>583397253If it can produce water and you ration VERY carefully, MAYBE, but i doubt it
>>583394594Alicorn but operated by sane men
>failed the chandelier>had a bot>and three guys just chasing air targets and random AA instead of shooting the cooling unitsIf we had like ONE more guy who knew what to do we probably would've done it.
>>583397253PossiblyThe real problem is several hundred days of noise discipline and zero fucking time outside will drive you insane Iirc torres was sunk by Mobius one as well so that would probably all make someone mentally fucked
>>583397323No wonder he was screaming about fresh white sheets or whatever the fuck it was
>>583396485Makes me root for the nationalist drones solely cause they flout the wind
>>583397253A real world sub? No.A Strangreal superweapon made by the Yukes who are submarine wizards? Probably.
>haven't got Alicorn mission once Where is it?
Why does my plane sometimes cruise at 450 instead of 600?
>>583397680underwater
>>583397680It's out there
>>583397624I wouldn't be surprised if Scinfaxi-class ships and the Alicorn all have hydroponics farms.
>>583397595and you have to compromise and jack off into a tissue
>>583397680>Alicorn missionI want to believe.
>>583397950>Submarine noise discipline>20 fuckin months, not a peep
can you even queu as a group?If so then posting here at least could secure clear somewhat, and give some farm
>>583396017Chandelier is cool for being an anti-ulysses weapon, but it's lame as a superweapon because it's just a glorified ICBM launcher that can't fire in more than one direction. It's basically 'we have Megalith at home'.
>>583397950>>583398104Phil was definitely lying about that, he folded
If you give enough wrong answers on the final mission, you get to fail and start from the beginning, didn't think PA would have the balls to fail a mission due to dialogue but they called my bluff.
>>583397721Altitude
i just wanna kill some dumb giant boss enemies with my bros, wtf is this soulless mmo grind of leveling up, unlocking planes and upgrading them.
>Destroy shadows>ground forces die and fail missionREEEEE
Why didn't Toprak kill Rex and Baxter in Rio Bajo
Ground targets really don't give enough points.
>>583398673Proud warrior mentality, they want to kill you in the air. Or by collateral via a Tonitrus strike.
>>583398673>heh, can't wait to rape these two in the skies>dies
>>583397721Just testedCruising speed depends on altitude; lower is lower, higher is higher
>>583398583Mission 8? I'm having the same issue except I just can't kill ground targets fast enough and UGBs aren't that effective because they're not grouped up enough. It also doesn't help that I've only bought one plane so far and it's strictly AA oriented.
Where is the standard missile power part?
>>583399161do you have wingmen on dispersed attack at all time
>>583398296>He foldedAlways have a card to play
Is there a stats screen that shows all of your missions and their highest rank on your current difficulty? I hate having to go to each individual one.
>>583399161The preorder tomcats are OPAlso>CoverIs a death sentence for whatever you're failing since they do a mix of peeling mjssiles off of you and swarming your target>>583399237Pretty fuckin close to the F35
>>583399547free mission
>>583399269Yes and they still hug my ass and do nothing. I've tried all three commands and they're still useless.
>>583399547You have to go back and review the missions list in Free mission for your top 3 scores and highest achieved rank
>>583399030Well his boss fight was fucking awful and I hated every second so who really won there
I find it very funny that the WSOs all sit still like statues on the flight prep screen while Rex and the other Joker pilots all have detailed animations.
>>583396781A million people is a lot of actual, real, tangible lives to take for a hypothetical stop to what at that point in time was a regional conflict between two powers that have zero vested interest in racking up civilian casualties like a competitive sport. The Erusean radicals' shtick with adopting drone tech was in part that it was a cleaner way to wage war.The only way I see where he could find sympathizers is with the retrospective understanding of the Kessler Syndrome that wholly ratfucked Usea. In a reality where he pulls his plan off and Kessler Syndrome never happens, he's going down in history as the dude who killed a million people to stop a war that had a kill count in maybe a hundred or so thousand at its most extreme.
can we get a missions tier list?
>>583399729>special weapons free>coster pops an ESM on a shadows>my SAAM does an overshoot, does a full loop, and circles back and rams it in the assiunno pretty useful to me
What the fuck was the FCU going to do before all the reinforcements arrived? Just kill 1000 Sotoans with 5 pilots?
>>583400154im revisiting alot of missions for secret ace conditions, and alot of the ones i didnt like in the first playthrough literally add 100% more interesting pathing conditions simply on account of the fact that you took that extra detour so i dont even know how to feel after the factFor instance>blew up both ladons at the same time>had zero fucking clue it had point defense lasers n shit
>>583399849>forever makes the player second guess if they want to replay the otherwise sweet mission 28 for generations to comeI guess you're right
>>583400209Yes
>>583399973Nuking Osea also fuck up the entire balance of geopolitcs by removing the strongest superpower from the board and opens the world for the corporate takeover much sooner beyond Usea.It's a far more disastrous result for everyone.
>>583400154Megafloat >>>>
>multirole/attacker mission>the guy in the F-14D focusing on air targets almost doubles my score I know that winning or getting MVP doesn't even really matter that much, but it's still kinda irritating.
warfare meta is now just having a dedicated bomber and being as annoying as possible
>>583400334Maybe I'll just use the plane that lets me use two gunpods and use the parts that make it auto and aim further
>>583400209For me, Megafloat was the point where FCU went insane
>>583399849>expect to have an epic duel>it devolves into shooting the dog from duck hunt, complete with him hopping about like hes the dog from Duck Hunt
>>583400334>>583400668If only PA could introduce some sort of mechanic when you get into a one on one with a boss, something that helps you stick to them and actually shoot them...
>>583400545beating QAAMS is about having enough speed to give you enough time to be on target and still build enough speed to go again for another attackthe 2 planes with pods are kind of bad at that
>>583399161yea. maybe using an interceptor like the mig31 wasn't a good idea idk
>>583400729fuck off ZERO was fineDFM is notespecially when DFM literally is because>lol every other wepaon option is borderline useless so you HAVE TO use DFMi dont mind doing batshit maneuvers with ace combat bombers and choppers though
>>583400828It's just gunfire was the only way I managed to kill him, and even that wasn't satisfying it was like he just flipped past me as I held down the trigger
>>583400928MIG31 allows you to get onto your target faster and accelerate to "safe" speeds in no timefor 90% of the missions it literally makes it the least irrelevant plane in the game due to time saved from>travelling>gimping planes with LAAMs>gimping planes with SAAMs
UGBLs with double radius upgrade is kinda ridiculous
I don't get why they felt the need to invent a new corporation instead of using GR or Neucom.
>>583401138idc what anyone says they're the best weapon in this game's campaign by far
>>583401198dont worry about it
>>583401043well my problem is hes sort of mechanically rigid, theres not alot of room for player expression, its literally>put up with being tailed>maybe call wingmen for cover>spurt random gouts of gunfire here and there, stay persistent, stay fast
>>583401198im pretty sure its because>we need more time to cookthey can always fold any of these new entities into the ones you mentioned if they feel the time is rightwhich is exactly what they do
>>583401198Replace the Enso Order with General Resource or Neucom. What happens?
>>583401303GOTTA STAY FLYGOTTA STAY STRONG
>>583400209I was mentally prepared to do so.
>>583400401>Nuke osea>Forget to nuke North pointWhoops
>>583400928Actually, I'm using the Eagle. I really don't want to free mission grind for the attacker version.
>>583401303It's the corner this series wrote itself into as far as I'm concerned, you either tail a boss and destroy it with well fired missiles or they get to dodge everything. Which is why I liked missions like with the Submarine better and having to shoot the missiles out of the air before they hit the Endurance, mechanically it's just more interesting then shooting down a jet again but this time the jet can dodge everything.
>>583401556>Be wings blowing up a defense of berlin amount of bombers>Tasha still foldingWtf was her problem
>>583402016woman
Yeah Shadow 22's fight fucking sucked, but I still beat him in a Fat Amy with no parts so I'm awarding him the title of biggest jobber second only to Pasternak.
>>583401556You would have been shot with more missiles than a level of Bangai-O
>>583401848You got a J Eagle by mission 8 and are still struggling? Buddy, I don't want to be mean but you need to git gud.
>>583402143He gets lowest place in shit-tier for me solely for popping parachutes. Degenerate horsefucker.
>>583402296He vas just following orders!!!
>>583402296>endurance had to call off the searchdid the beacons break on impact? Did they end up sinking?
>>583402386He enjoys it, the bastard.
>>583402296>>583402386>moon11 and lux22 in a competition for cocksucker and cocksuckesti have zero respect for either of them as characters, at least mihaiy was just autistic for flight
>>583402296the virgin << THAT'S A WARCRIME! >> vs the chad << I think that's up to interpretation >>
>>583402429no they had to get pulled off to deal with the battleship at the lighthouse sending more spears to the spearwtf how could you forget the mission about stopping the reloading of the spears was a prelude to the battleship reloading the spears>>583402518the only thing he seems to enjoy is doing the haka and larping about his>muh nomad cultureshit like hes sitting bull
>failed another alicorn sortieI really should've alt-f4d and queued again. I know better than to think I can beat it with two F-14s using A2A special weapons.
>>583402702I think newbies get confused because the emergency sortie icon is an arsenal bird, my first time I was expecting it to be an arsenal bird only to realize that it was the fucking chandelier lmao
>mfw i post ragebait and get 8 (you)'s
Absolutely nothing you do in this game matters mission to mission, you disable the Tonitron Satelite about 5 times, you decimate the Sotoans and push them off the continent then the next mission they just go 'fuck it' and fly the whole fleet to you, you beat them all including S22 and the fucking Major General just flies to Theve on her own and has 'a laser that can nuke a city' but whatever you kill her and the war is over? No then a fucking Submarine comes out of nowhere and becomes a big threat to world peace again
Beware, i am starting my acOnline adventure nowi will max out the f4 firsti will shit up your emergency sorties until i have a strong enough aircraftyou have been warned
please make this the next OP image
>>583402223I prioritized parts and that was the best plane available. It's fast, but the lack of AG, saturation of ground targets, and how spread out they are, I just don't have the time to cover them all.
>>583402702Queue with anons, we have room for 2 more
>>583402702>no one attacking core straight up at the railgun
>>583400154M20 is up there as an escort mission that doesn't fucking suck and it has the greatest Yes. < > No. in the whole game
>>583403829what was the <<yes>>i can't connect numbers to missions yet
I like Tasha, like alot but I keep getting this itch in the back of my head that she reminds me too much of those military industrial complex e girls.Kate my beloved.
Nagase looks better in 2030 than she did in 2010
>>583402880Didn't one of these guys look like someone, I remember that from a previous thread but forgot whom
>>583404101Blaze's seed will do that to you
>>583403938><< It's a terrible strategy, isn't it? >>
The soundtrack was kind of weak, wasn't it?AC7 had a banger every other mission, whereas the AC8 music is just... kind of there.I can't name a single recognizable track that's not the main theme or the shadows humming.I guess the ending song was nice?
Finished the campaign, a fun ride. Better missions than 7. So...what's next for the series realistically? A remake of 3? Another game set before the 2040s?
>>583404518https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vyw5_N7amkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTPv8HNdrRchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiP6RVxUu8AJust to show a few. It's different, but i like it a whole lot.
>>583404518what noooooo bro it's so PEEEAAAAK bro!!!!! le epic dadrock, le epic chanting...I'M GONNA COOOOOM!!!
>>583404598They either bite the bullet and go for 3 or the Sotoa-Yuktobania war as an out
>>583404518>The soundtrack was kind of weak, wasn't it?good luck with this
>>583404518>The soundtrack was kind of weak, wasn't it?lollmao even
>>583404691>ac3^2>ac '09tough call
>>583404518Hardest pill to swallow is music is subjective and were Zero released today you'd have a dozen people spamming 'wtf is this lame ass spanish guitar do people really like this shit???'
>>583404518https://youtu.be/ci44HuiDeLM
>>583404598>A remake of 3?The only reason I see this happening is for a legal way to give the west the Japanese version, but otherwise I think the PS1 version holds up more than enough and is probably one of the nicest looking PS1 games overall
wait i just realised, are sorties caped to one per program?
>>583404598>A remake of 3?A remaster.As a pre-order bonus for AC9. :)>>583404656Fatsia is alright, but the dad rock tracks kinda sucked.And Moonlight&Shadows has that generic feeling to it - it feels like this track has played every other mission.>>583404784Sure thing, but even with this train of thought you'd probably be able to recognize a couple tracks - in case of AC8 it all blends together.
>>583404264ahem... FUCK DRONES
>>583404952no, programs just rotate which maps are available
>>583404518as a whole the tracks in 7 and 8 work really well in the missions theyre played inthis was not the case in the previous titles where youd have a solid amount of "works" vs" midevery thing "works" at worst and is "perfect" at bestShadow 22 does not deserve the slectronic mariachi guitar though
>>583404691Sotoa-Yuktobania would be fun. People have been comparing 7 to 4 and 8 to 5, so 9 embodying Zero could be cool. The idea of the Belkan War was conceived in 5 and explored in Zero, so there's precedent for them teeing up a prequel like that. Toss in an early Enso or Enso-precursor selling arms to Sotoa and that deal barely keeping them alive and not conquered by the Yukes and they can explore the slow rise of mega corporations.
>>583404692>>583404770uh oh, somebody woke up the rock music fans. careful, they're gonna talk to you about music, but only guitar-bass-drums quartets that nobody under the age of 50 listens to anymore
>>583405180Setting the war location aside, I would love a mercenary story where your entire PMC has a rags to riches arc, with you starting on graveyard planes cobbled together from spare parts that are covered in rust, and getting the airframe repaired/rebuilt/replaced by shooting down more and more of the same type for salvage.
0/10 bait
Just a few more games and I can buy the A-10. Need to start lawn mowing every game.
>>583405062I did like blue sky home. Times are changing i could agree, but it gave a bit of characterization to what's usually faceless friendlies.I don't like permanent bombastic music, as it just numbs me, so having a bit of a mix as well as some genre to mix it up at times was something i enjoyed.The progression of the single guitar on the shadows setpieces also was something i enjoyed, from the chaotic piece on frostwave to the well organized, intensifying one on moonlight and shadows. There was some characterization in the music i feel, some evolution, and while some pieces did just fade in the background while i played, some just stuck with me.
>>583404518dumb faggothttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6gVNCtNEr8
>>583405180Honestly I'd like to see a Savian merc story. We know their economy depends on mercenaries, but not how or why that came to be.
>>583405594>just a mid ED song of a moeshit anime looped for 7 minutes
>>583405442this should unironically be the premise for the online modeas opposed to the dogshit we got
still not a single track even half as good as daredevil :)
>>583405732i liked how corny retro it sounded, especially considering the mission format
>>583405851i know this is bait, but it's true
>>583405732you're such a retarded spear chucking gorilla nigger you mixed up Star-Bound Bird with Blue Sky Homekill yourself
>>583406001no, I didn'tit's exactly what I said, just lacking lyricsstay mad
what attacker is good in MP
>>583406161F-15E
>>583406161su34, then f15e and mirage after a powergap
>>583406001>mad racist can't handle his absolutely dogshit knuckle-dragging "white culture" music is getting absolutely moggedwhen was the last time a rock band was popular dipshit
>>583405851>written like bait>stated as a fact>is a factHell, Id argue lighthouse is really fucking good for a long-form mission song as well
>>583406161Anything with big bombs, lots of them
>>583406161su34
Zerofags really are the Final Fantasy 7 fanboys of Ace Combat, always insufferable and always talking shit about the other games.
>>583406161F-14D
>>583405851hortus regis alti made me feel more than daredevil did but its still no Zero
NGL the splash from LACM is kinda disapointing, got spoiled by UGBLs i guess
>>583406202>>583406263>>583406391I don't have the rank for the 15-E yet, so I guess I'm stuck with the rusky slop then>>583406416I have the 14-D at 20 and no, those UGBs might as well tickle the ground targets even when boosted
>>583405892>fight over Comona in 2>fight over Comona in 3>fight over Comona in 4>fight over Comona in 8At this rate we'll be fighting Galaxians over Comona in the next millenium.
<< Increase altitude, you're too low! >>
>>583406575>I have the 14-D at 20 and no, those UGBs might as well tickle the ground targets even when boostedThen you suck, and are retarded. Uninstall.
>ADF-11's designation is Raven>X-49's designation is Night Raven>X-40 is flown by Luna 11, and is painted pale as the full moon>X-40's designation is Nightmare>Not Moon RavenWhat the hell was this about? Just the fact it's got a brain scrambler for the control interface?
>>583406575>rusky slopthe 33 is probably the best carrier plane in the game since it has the rocket optionand the 34 is for some reason the only one with a fucking UGB-L
do you one tap air targets with standard missiles if you put on 2 damage upgrades?in SP
>>583406648you don't understand how stats work in MP and that's ok, next time just don't post
>>583405851Daredevil is perfect in-game, but outside of the game I like Hortus Regis Alti. The in-game version with Luna's singing at the beginning and tribal screaming and chanting in the background throughout is phenomenal
>>583406757I only played on expert so far don't know if difficulty effects it. But a MiG-21 is incredibly weak compared to a Su-57 not sure if you one shot them with regular missiles
>>583406613Waiopolo needs to be turned into one giant crater>>583406703The X-40, aka the nightmare, piloted by director general carmille, who used to be callsign Moon11, currently flying under callsign SeleneI genuinely think they took like 5 characters during planning and smashed them into one
>>583406904depends on innate anti-air stat i believe as well
>>583406757>>583406904the lower your Air-To_X bar is the lower your overall damage vs thoe targetsyes its fucking stupid like that and not a general suggestion of how you will do, but a literal statistic on how you will do
>no development hell>story still kind of reeks of development hellwhatever, thanks for the game Project Aces, see you for 8dlc then 9
Since early game multiplayer is dogshit thanks to the p2w or LAAM niggers, anyone have the best way to actually succeed in missions to grind up? Feels like I do zero damage to any ground targets at all.
>rocky island part 2 on ace>lux groups show up>keep getting wiped because they're spamming infinite QAAMs at mewhat the FUCK
>>583407064It's just issue of Sunao. It has repeating story beats of 5 and 7.
>>583407064katabuchi is just retarded
>>583407064I like the plot doesn't go for the easy nostalgia bait of fighting the Yukes again at some point but yeah it was kind of mid much better than 7 but I feel like 4 or 0 are more consistent and just have more to say
>>583407093UGBLs on PVE in warfare, you're usually 100k score, just fly in circles if someone comes until they get bored
>>583407093The reality of MP is that it really doesn't matter, the reward difference between winning with by 60000 points or losing is incredibly minor. As long as you end the mission with an S rank, you're progressing about as fast as anyone else.The real boost is having 3 squadrons and sharing Scrambles and Sorties with each other because those give more rewards.
>>583407064I feel like they wanna do something really ambitious but then end up running out of time/money or something. Wonder if that's what happened this time around considering the final mission that so many people keep mentioning.
>>583407093Completing missions gives you 100 XP no matter how you do so just suffer a few times until you level up and unlock something with bombs (Mirage has UGBs and controls way better than earlier planes)
>>58340737530's just really poorly paced. if the first 10 minutes wasn't flying in circles shooting down cruise missiles while everyone yaps it would be fine, or at least much more bearable than its current form.
>>583407375final mission is the most cohesive thingwhat makes little to no sense is everything around after your escape from behind enemy lines>Tasha has this self righteous meltdown about something>baxter has this meltdown about... something>kate suddenly draws a fifth wing that represents... cope?what the fuck is even happening
>>583407609>>baxter has this meltdown about... somethingCausing a TS strike on Waiapolo because we just had to play hero.
>>583406575The f14 has gpbs
pls nu bred
>>583407609>>kate suddenly draws a fifth wing that represents... cope?Given they mention him by name not long after, yes.
>>583407609The sudden reverence for Cope feels the weirdest, considering at the start everyone including his own wingmen were considering him a coward and a fraud
>>583407938>>583407938>>583407938>>583407938
>>583365475NIGGA GO OUTSIDE.
I laugh every time someone posts in these threads about Kate "dying" and clearly they haven't finished the campaign yet. Why are you guys posting here instead of finishing the game first? Do you want to see spoilers?
>squadron is fullSomeone make another one..
>>583390476Harder to stallIn practice it lets you high G for longer before your plane yanks itself towards the groundThe Sukhoi planes usually have amazing maneuverability but dogwater stability to counterbalance it
