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"Virtual Reality, Real Suffering"
ND Edition

Headset Selection: https://rentry.org/vrgheadsets
Game Recommendations: https://rentry.org/gxrov
VRC Screenshots by World: https://vrg.party/worlds.html
Archive: https://archive.vrg.party/

>Game Resources
Assets: https://vrg.booru.org/
Guides for Avatar and World Dev: https://rentry.org/4tzqs
Assetto Corsa: https://rentry.org/hrq69
VTOL VR: https://rentry.org/5nuk4
Minecraft (Dungeon Crawling): https://crawler.vrg.party
Fallout 4: https://rentry.org/pofw5
Bonelab: https://rentry.org/bonerlabeu

>Regularly Hosted Multiplayer Games
Monday - EU Assetto Corsa: 18:00 UTC / 20:00 CEST (every other week)
Monday - EU Payday 2: 20:00 CEST
Monday - NA Quake Co-op: 8PM ET
Tuesday - EU Pavlov: 18:00 UTC / 20:00 CEST
Wednesday - EU VTOL VR: 20:00 UTC (every other week)
Wednesday - NA Assetto Corsa: 8PM ET
Thursday - SEA VRFPS: 8PM JST
Thursday - NA Walkabout Minigolf: 10PM ET
Friday - EU VRFPS: 18:00 UTC / 20:00 CEST (Game varies, watch the thread)
Friday - NA Pavlov: 11PM ET (every other week)
Saturday - SEA/EU Walkabout Minigolf: 12:00 UTC
Saturday - Pavlov: 18:00 UTC / 20:00 CEST

>Regularly Hosted VRChat Events
https://rentry.org/mxotqvmh
>Current Active VRChat Instances
https://anchor.vrg.social/

New threads: >>>/vg/vrg
Old thread: >>583214316

>Upcoming Events
Race War - October 10
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first for Plum!
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first for AI is good.
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third for devs forgetting horizon lock and causing violent motion sickness
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I bought Pavlov, hopefully I can join in next time.
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>>583363558
If you're after playing snd make sure to practice both just using the weapons against static targets and against bots first. Basic weapon handling is a completely new skill and so is target acquisition. It's not just point and click you are physically learning a new skill. If you don't get the basics down you get STOMPED
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Alright, FINE, I admit it. I have AGP and I love looking down at my avatars huge tits.
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>>583364040
Want to go all the way and love seeing yourself with your legs spread and being taken?
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>>583363905
there's no letdown quite like learning that you're severely crosseye dominant from playing in VR and have to hold the weapon like a gangster for target acquisition

in hindsight this totally explains why I failed to get the shooting merit badge as a kid
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>>583364095
nnnnnno
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>>583363558
I will be ready
When you log in I will have already played for warmup
When you see me from cover I will have already triggered my frag
When you ask a question to your mates I will have located your head around the corner
I will be ready
just.
for.
(You).
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>>583364267
Soon anon, soon.
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>>583364040
be a good girl and post your AGPest model and outfit
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>>583363905
>>583364269
Yeah, I planned on hopping on to try it out before I jumped into some actual games. I think there's like a single player mode to get your bearings.
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>>583364725
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>>583365514
this dlc was the scariest thing to 14 year old me
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the snoozers
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We might get all the PSVR1 exclusives soon
https://github.com/bigmak94/AstroQuest
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>>583367872
Cool!
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>Know that I will feel cucked if I see my vrfu hanging out with a mutual friend
>Know that I will feel cucked if I see my vrfu in private/orange
>Boot up VRCX anyway and look at my vrfu's status
>Willingly repeat this everyday and feel miserable everyday no matter what
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I'm so tired of being so autistic and bad at communication
I feel like my friends are starting to not treat me seriously anymore
I might be overthinking it
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Playing VRchat has actually made me a bit more depressed.
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>>583368686
VRC is the most depressing thing you can do with your VR headset
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>>583368686
>>583368739
Skill issue. Making VR friends cured my depression.
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>>583368739
Yeah I get to see people who have known each other for like 10 years talking to each other in a circle.
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>>583368135
Pathetic mindset anon, view other fags like slabs of meat there are plenty of them out there.
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>>583368739
Because it's for normalfags. If you don't fit in irl you won't fit in in VRC either.
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>>583368878
then if you try to join in, another one of their friends will come over and stand in front of you to make you go away
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>>583368860
>things worked out for me haha
good for you.
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>>583368135
Your vrfu is not your vrfu if he's playing vrchat every waking hour or always on private/orange. Find someone else anon. Good friends do not always make good partners.
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>>583367872
This would be fun once the Frame gets Steam Controller tracking.
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>>583369564
Saw some dude 3d print a mount where you slap both controller in and it becomes a regular gamepad. Could be a cheap alternative
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>>583369564
But the frame already has that. No-one cares because the frame barely works though
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>>583367872
Give me this and Statik
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>>583369973
Yup hopefully. I'd also like to try Blood and Truth.
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Are there any VR mods for PS1 games?

I would love to play Silent Hill 1, Jumping Jack or Nightmare Creatures in first-person VR
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>>583370134
patreon com/u61517070/posts/silent-hill-1999-167912751

I assume as more PSX PC ports happen they'll become more common
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>>583368627
My friends always talk with me and greet me and want me around and I'm not even sure why. I'm painfully autistic to the point my brain just blanks thinking of the correct thing to say to small talk. And I know they don't keep me around just to cum in me because none of them have ever asked for erp. I wonder what they see in me I don't see in myself.
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Sign Language is up, probably going to be a chill meet this week, great for anyone curious who wants to learn some basics like the alphabet.
https://vrch.at/mqby9a58
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>>583371469
>I wonder what they see in me
story of my life, people often want to spend time with me for some reason, even though the feeling is usually not mutual
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I just realized I shit my pants like three hours ago.
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How do you know if you should put the trackers on feet or ankles? Measure by height or arms span? Lock hips, head , or both?
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>>583374423
Trackers should go on the feet, and the rest is trial and error based on your model and your real proportions. There's no one size fits all thing.
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>>583368903
>>583369525
But... I love xhem more than the other fags who just erp with xhem once and leave...

Our erp was special and had an emotional connection...
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>>583374498
Trackers on ankles seems to make kneeling work better
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>>583373875
Same but i nutted myself in my sleep
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>>583374880
Why would you need kneeling in VR?
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>>583373617
hey, you might reschedule this since its also EU /trash/ ;)
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>>583374948
>using fbt just to sit and lay down
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>>583375131
Who the fuck cares about that?
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Retard anon here.
I'm running into two bugs. One hardware and one software.

>Hardware bug:
>The right quest controller disconnects.
>Has the meta rechargeable battery accessory
Happens constantly. Simply letting my hand down by my side would appear to put the controller beyond the range of its BT receiver.

>Software bug:
When clicking a link for VRchat, nothing happens until I manually load VRchat on my headset. Then I'll be given the option to teleport to the world from the link, but when I teleport I have no ability to move or interact with the interface. Only way to leave is to go to desktop and force close VRchat manually.
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>>583375960
I suggest XIV and dilation.
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>>583375960
I have noticed the same issues with quest 3 controllers. No sure how to fix it, i have to remove the battery just to reset the controllers.
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I have a new poll for future themes. This is an updated selection, I've kept the top three and added two more options that might be more favorable. The previous results will still be considered, and this one will be primarily for the immediate future. There is still no date decided upon for the next meet as of yet.

https://strawpoll.com/Q0Zp73NBAgM
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>>583223791
I know this anon was probably shitposting but I take shitposts very seriously so here we go - SWGemu Core3 with custom Godot client adapted for VR and with semi-CU mechanics and FPS combat. All core mechanics work with proper VR controls, combat is very approximated and PvE is expectedly janky but it works and runs smooth. Surveying, crafting, medic, scout and entertainer are technically still the same when core mechanics are in question but interactions and skills are pretty much original from ground up "inspired" by original because nobody wants to sit in place running macro in VR. Combat is just normal-ish FPS for ranged with completely different way gun stats work or some travel time and speed needed waggle for melee with also completely different way stats are handled. HAM is there just for taking damage and firing off some select abilities.
All of Tatooine works, including lairs, missions, trainers and local shuttles.
And droids still get in the way.
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https://youtu.be/R0QVOH_DT_w

good video on the AI topic desu
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>>583377327
>thumbnail
ez pass
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>>583375224
you might not like it, but the sunday sex meet has been a long running event in vrg.
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>>583377327
Finding decent new worlds now while doing random world hopping is harder now because of all the slop, swim through sea of trash to find a few shining pearls.
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>>583377617
are you sure its vrg? because I don't see it posted anywhere
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>>583377915
stop getting baited dude
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>>583371469
Maybe you're a pleasant person to be around.
Sometimes just being nice to someone is enough to make them want to see you again, specially in a place full of lonely autists.
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https://vrch.at/yf2yyj5d
https://vrch.at/yf2yyj5d

Just doing some games vic round. Join if you want!
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calibration menu + highlights have been added.
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>>583377880
It's honestly just as easy as before. AI generated thumbail = shit. This rule has NEVER been wrong.
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>>583368739
Real life is shit.
Seeing cute anime girls, even in a virtual environment brings me great relief.
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>>583378807
yeah getting in and finding out the anime girls don't like you either is great
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>>583378907
anime girls love me i think the issue is with you
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>>583378483
Nice I love vicround! On my way.
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>>583377880
It's funny how "Asia loves AI" is really playing into the soulless bugmen stereotype.
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>>583378961
and we loop back to VRC being depressing, thanks for resolving this problem.
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>>583378807
based mushy enjoyer??
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>>583379180
i think this show is a great normie filter
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>great normie filter
>most popular show of the season
@grok vibecode a way to punch someone in the face via tcp/ip
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>>583379702
sorry but hes right anon, mt has a massive haterbase in the west
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>>583377915
https://vrch.at/yf2yyj5d
https://vrch.at/yf2yyj5d
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I think i should go offline for a while
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Hear me out. Extremely oily torpedoe tits drunk crazy style paizui.
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Wrong thread retard
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>>583379820
Rightfully so. It's tenage girl YA novel levels self indulgent horse shit. I would put in on par with 7 deadly sins, or black clover in terms of "writing". The only reason anyone ever talks about the show is to post your personal favorite girl. God damn 'return after death' (which is also dog shit) at least has a plot that people talk about.
>Hur dur I'm the most unlikable protag of all time. Did I mention I'm an obnoxious pedophile and its played for yucks like a bit from I Love Lucy but without ever having a funny punchline, its literally just "I am a pedophile, that is the joke. Also, I will act on my pedophilic inclinations and monologue to you (the audience) about it."
The wrong studio got firebombed.
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>>583375960
>>583376485
The controller thing is a meta os bug, it happens with the latest version. Usually it happens after the controller has been left idling. It's been a month, I have yet to find any info about a new update.
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>>583380692
relevant username
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I'm probably the only one using the quest 3 handtracking in VRC but over the last month there's also been a bug in VRC regarding it.
Basicaly the right hand doesn't cast a laser pointer cursor anymore despites each fingers and the entire hand being tracked perfectly.
So I used to look at my left palm to open the menu and the right to navigate it but that ain worky no mo. Feel the zucc.
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>>583380692
Aside from unironic pedo pandering which you might like or not depending on how based you think you are, the show just treats sex and sexuality in a really weird way which is weird considering it is otherwise written decently, especially compared to most other isekai garbage. The moment the MC treats his erectile dysfunction as a more serious issue than the magical catastrophe that defines most of his life I just can't treat him seriously.
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>>583381116
I do the same, are you sure VRC settings aren't messed up?
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>>583381368
I'll check later but I pretty much didn't change anything to my pc setup or my game settings in a year so who knows. Are you using VD or something else to pass the hand data?
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link me to something that can help me change the color detail of my clothing patterns pls
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>>583381518
"grok turn this clothing pattern of a strawberry into a banana" works pretty well.
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>>583381518
https://photopea.com/
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>>583381518
https://www.wikihow.com/Dye-Clothes
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>>583381662
Intriguing anon
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See anon? The failed normies are revealing themselves.
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>>583380692
>>583381157
i liked the music
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>>583381457
Steam Link. I'd use VD but I'm one of the people plagued by the fps degradation issue since April or so.
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"Normalfaggots, as everyone knows, only care about women and sex. They have no passion for things that do not lead to those. But now it's harder for them to find a woman because of those higher standards. They stop even trying, fearing being laughed at, when they compare themselves to pictures of handsome men.
Thus, they become what we call a "failed normalfag". A failed normalfag is still obsessed with women and sex, but since he can't get it, he looks for substitution. Unfortunately for us, he finds it in video games (when he finds it in anime, for example, we often call him an "ironic weeb" instead). To make matters worse, it's no longer "lame" to play video games, hence probably at least 90% of "gamers" are now failed normalfags.
Of course, they always try to convince themselves that they don't care about real women and pretend to be nerds, but they aren't and can never be nerds, since they have no passion for video games, anime and other "nerdy" things.
The only thing they have is their obsession with women and sex. As soon as they find a woman, they lose all interest in the medium. Alas, this doesn't happen often. After all they're failed normalfags."
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we need a mushy rewatch event.....
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>>583377327
there will never be an honest conversation about AI because critics of it will never admit that their issues with it are mostly about money
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>>583382783
Yoshiaki Fujisawa does ok work. His stuff in Houseki no Kuni was nice, he did the instrumentals with mallets and flutes. Even back with his work in Cross Game he liked percussive sounds a lot.
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Hosting another photo instance / pretty world exploration. Point is to go explore aesthetically pleasing map and take some good looking pictures of each other or ourselfs.
Starting time will be at 20:00 CEST (In about 23 hours) and will be going till EU mahjong starts.
Do have a good amount of worlds in the backlog for now, but if you have any suggestions feel free to contact yours truely before or during the instance.
So bring your cute outfits, interesting avatars, posing skills or a camera and I'll hopefully see y'all there.
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>>583371469
>I wonder what they see in me I don't see in myself.
my take on rating a good anon goes as follows
>enjoy VR so now we have a shared hobby
>show at least some humanity so that i know you're not a robot, maybe you can drop some opinion in a conversation sometimes, maybe you're expressing yourself through avatars, anything works. this can be successfully substituted with playing vidya together
>don't be a schizo
anyone who doesn't ruin the fun for me is my guy, and therefore deserves some welcoming attitude. and anyone who contributes to the fun in any way or form is just plain based
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>>583383467
Monkeys paw: Jason or Niggster hosts it.
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>>583385730
wrong thread
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/vrg/ vs /nepgen/ in the Quarter Finals starting in a few minutes in virtual divegrass

https://cytube.implying.fun/c/vgleague

VR rewatch next Friday
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>>583384143
Personally, as a hobbyist composer, to speak on AI music specifically;
The AI stuff is really frustrating because it gets interjected into existing arguments. Musical development is an ongoing conversation between everyone who makes music. Like, when someone makes a song that has the same riff as something they heard recently from someone else, that's the "musical conversation" developing. Sample tracks, remixes, all of that are the opinions and personality of other musicians. Whatever comes out of the conversation, be it the Disco era or the hell pits of Butt Rock, is the culture developing. AI songs don't really contribute to culture in a positive way that I can see. At best it muddles the conversation, at worst it gives a voice to people who shouldn't have a seat at the table.
From what I've observed, AI pro people seem to only see it as the labels or publishers like Sony music holding the keys to their enjoyment of music, (like when they purchased all the radio stations in North America), and if thats the experience you've had with music in your life then I'm sorry, that does suck. But for me, and people like me, its more like everyone had their own table to eat at, and now the AI pro people are flipping every table because they don't like what was served at the big publisher table.
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troon general
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>>583385779
Exactly that's why it won't happen
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ttd general
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Anyone interested in an impromptu Walkabout Mini Golf session? Webm not related
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Why do so many VRChat world creators make shit entirely too large and have tons of weird, empty space? Some space is obviously good to give room for people to gather, but not that much.
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>>583366868
67
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>>583387815
Looks fine in desktop
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>>583363009
>Monday - NA Quake Co-op: 8PM ET
I'm new to this board and I'm kind of retarded. I'm also interested in this, where can I find more information?
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>>583373617
Good sign meet, and happy to see a newfriend from thread join. See you all again next week
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Impromptu Walkabout is up.
Room code vrg
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>>583370605
Good world.
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>nah bro fuck this I'm not paying for prescription inserts, there's even a spacer so I'll just use my glasses
>
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>>583389453
>dysgenic redditors are destroying their frames within a day
>i still have no purchase link
FUCK gaben
FUCK valve
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How should I clean my Quest 3 lenses?
some cloth? tissue? damp or dry?
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>>583389772
Get a lens cleaning cloth and some lens cleaning fluid. Do not use anything with alcohol in it; the fluids tend to be purified water so they don't leave residue nor alcoholic so they don't remove lens coatings. You use a lens cloth specifically because they're made to not have any hard materials in them (EG; paper towel often has tiny microscopic hard lumps that can scratch lenses).
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>>583389641
>I'm not waiting for the prescription inserts to arrive and I can't see without glasses so I'll just use them
>
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>>583389453
Just wear contacts? What the hell is wrong with people?
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>>583390116
What also runs hot is valve's own lens partner zenni didn't even sell lenses day one. What the fuck?
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scary bigger
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Frame sucks
I almost returned my Frame today
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>>583389772
If you live near a Sunglass Hut, they have cleaning kits. They gave me one for free. They also offer free refills on the cleaning fluid.
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>>583390153
contacts icky
I'm one of those too but if I was blind enough to always need correction I'd just wait for inserts
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>>583390231
they probably believed the "frame DOA" fags and severely underprovisioned
explains why they did a very short round of orders and then stopped for a few days
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>>583390683
>they probably believed the "frame DOA" fags and severely underprovisioned
They're valve's official partner. They can do the fucking math is valve is selling 40k frames, and myopia is a probably condition in like 50% or more of the people using them, they need to prep to ship FIRST because then everyone buys their lenses.
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>>583390462
I wear contacts every day but take breaks on the weekends. I don't own a device yet but I'm grateful for the info. I'm surprised you can't make any adjustments for near sighted people other than inserts.
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>>583390683
I think it is more likely Zenni were literally just not told when the frame was coming out and found out the same time we did. Then they're sitting there trying to spin up production after this news comes out of nowhere.
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>>583390916
leaks were flying around like 3 weeks in advance, so more than a month before it even started shipping
many other insert makers managed to start selling before zenni
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>>583389453
>>583389641
>>583390116
What is the issue here? Are they scratching the lenses?
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>>583391108
yeah they scratched the lens coatings of both the inserts and their glasses (and maybe the glass underneath too if they're genuinely that retarded)
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>>583391108
Yes. It's really not obvious from the pictures but the front of their glasses scratch the lenses inside the headset.
https://vrwiki.info/wiki/Headsets#Lens_Inserts

There is no getting around it, the glasses and head and headset move independently of each other and will contact.
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>>583391256
>of both the inserts
meant to say frame lenses, not inserts
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>>583388390
A small group of us play through quake mods using anon's slopped up quakespasm fork with various improvements to VR coop (weapon wheel, teleport/respawn/see players through walls, FBT/custom avatars, voice chat, steam audio spatialization). You can get the launcher from https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/text/https%3A%2F%2Fmega.nz%2Ffile%2FKwFxxRzB%23QZIXfSEkQRdC4fNfKgF1InAZPzoUvQKe8RTIXQ9eRzo/ or https://github.com/ObeseCatLord/Quakespasm-VR .

The host is doing serious sam instead this monday >>583325559 , but we'll probably do quake again soon.
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>>583391502
I'm glad NA has a smaller group of people who turn up to games regularly
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This world is kinda awesome it's got some mathematical patterns represented in 3d space and there's sliders and tuners to move around to adjust the algorithm that makes the shape
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>>583391256
>>583391358
Nta but what is the proper way to maintain/clean these lenses (before getting inserts)?
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>>583392029
This:
>>583389936

And don't try and outsmart the producers; they're overcharging for this junk but if you try and substitute you will be using stuff that rips lens coatings off
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>>583389213
Good golfing, me. Beat my old score by six strokes. Would've done better if not for network stutter. It's a good thing Thursdays are at night when other devices are off.
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me: $1 bottle of distilled water and $1 lens cloth
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>>583392029
first and foremost, never EVER use glasses in a VR headset
you need to clean the oils left over by the protector, so in order of preference
>microfiber cloth (dry)
>microfiber cloth with drop of distilled water
>microfiber cloth with drop of IPA (support said it's fine but idk)
>microfiber cloth with drop of normal water (basically gambling)
the provided lens cloth doesn't absorb the oils so it just smudges them over the lens
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no pokerexplo today
there is of course, the option to host it yourself too
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>>583392137
>>583392567
Another thing, do they sell replacement lenses? I looked on i-fixitt and couldn't find anything.
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>>583385837
Semi Finals starting now with /vrg/ vs /smtg/ (Shin Megami Tensei General)

https://cytube.implying.fun/c/vgleague
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>>583393079
No lmao if you fuck the lenses you need a new headset.
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>>583393079
no, at BEST you could get replacement optical stacks, since the thing is sealed and factory aligned
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What's funny is redditors wearing glasses in their frames actually consume TWO (or more if they keep doing it) headsets since they will try and RMA them
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>>583393265
>optical stacks
Oh yeah that is what I meant. I saw during the tear down the guy removed them. Besides that what would be a good lense cleaner? I saw someone mention K&F
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>>583393372
this is why the truest thing linus ever said about the frame is that the spacer is there for eye relief
everyone in comments and reddit was screaming "BUT MUH GLASSES" like actual chimpanzees
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>>583392941
noooooooooooo i need my poker
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>>583393620
>Oh yeah that is what I meant
it includes the display (and eye tracking) too btw, so not going to be a cheap replacement at all
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Computer show me horrors beyond my comprehension
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>>583393981
<Understood>

The fish here are apparently controlled by simulated fly neurons (presumably downscaled)
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MMOs had a golden age, consoles had one, and handheld gaming had one as well. Just getting older and wondering if VR gaming ever going to have an amazing peak or will it always be mediocre?
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>>583395114
You missed it
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>>583395149
"When VRChat was good" doesn't count.
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they made this game into a real life place and someone scanned it
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>>583395275
now turn the scanned real place into a game
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AI...
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I could get used to the Frame controllers if it weren't for the grip button, I prefer the Index experience of grabbing things
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>>583395114
2020 was the peak. It's over.
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>>583395114
literally right now
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>>583395863
One banger game coming out with one decent headset is not what I'd consider a golden age.
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>>583395863
>missed the golden age because i was waiting 2 more weeks for the deckard
>deckard turned out to be a wet fart
it's over
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>>583395806
you should be able to remap the grip action to one of the several different states of the button to try and make it more index like
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>>583395948
>He still thinks VR is for gaming
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>>583393696
you have free will anon, you can just >pick it up
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>>583395948
Well he said both peak and golden age, that was definitely the peak. There won't be a golden age.
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>>583396421
get naked
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NA anime tonight at 10 pm est in vrchat. For non-airing we're starting this ancient boomer retro anime from 2014. The seasonals are also over, so we'll be doing multibox soon(tm), details TBD.
https://rentry.org/i3t5ozt8

Kill la Kill - 01 and 02
Seihantai S2 - 13
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>>583393845
I'll just shelve my frame until my inserts come in.
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>>583396356
>video games general
>virtual related general for gaming
>anon VR isn't for gaming
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>>583391502
I rebased it on vkquake now so it has much better frames and some fancy graphics features. You can run Arcane Dimensions and the like on the Steam Frame now at a good framerate.
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>>583396775
if you can't see anything at about 1 meter then yeah that's the best bet
a bit regrettable but nothing valve could realistically do
>fuckhuge spacer
would make the experience much worse and some tards with hipster glasses would still scratch it
>adjustable diopter
garbage because expensive and astigmatism is also very common so you'll need inserts anyway

liquid crystal lenses would be the ultimate solution but it still needs time before hitting consumer market, it will cause a small revolution since no more need for inserts and you get varifocal
valve even has a patent for an add-on insert of these... maybe for the frame...
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>>583395114
Claude has given us all the high quality VR games we could ever ask for. Ind*e d*vs were never going to deliver at the rate things were going.
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>>583397294
Get out of here with that AI slop.
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>>583397380
Your choice is AI slop VR mods, or no VR games. You may not like it, but that's the choice you have.
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>>583397551
I'll take false dichotomy for 500, Alyx.
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>>583397380
>mobile-style VR quest slop with no content
vs
>high quality flat game with lots of content made to work in VR by one layer of slop
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>>583397667
Enjoy your one indie tech demo every 4 months I guess then
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>>583397667
It's not a false dichotomy at all. There's no money in making VR games.
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this nigga is so cute
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there's like 4 different cliques full of friends who I really appreciate, but every single one of them has like one retarded annoying faggot attached to them who's autistic special interest happens to overlap with someone else in the crew. Annoying enough that I just don't want to hang out. It sucks. I've got all these friends, but no comfy space where I can just chill
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>>583398338
That's a bald 30+ year old man.
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>has like one retarded annoying faggot
im sorry anon, im trying my best
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>>583398881
yea and?
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race war october 10th, 6 more days, oh boy oh boy race war october 10th, 6 more days, oh boy oh boy race war october 10th, 6 more days, oh boy oh boy race war october 10th, 6 more days, oh boy oh boy
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>>583399365
We have enough nons for this? I'd assume the general is like majority White, if that is the case do we break it down by nationalities?
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>>583399618
>I'd assume the general is like majority White
...
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I'm going to host Serious Sam TFE VR on Monday at 8PM EST. The game is on sale right now.

We'll use this mod list https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3810496216
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Great match, /vrg/, love from /dbg/!
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>>583399618
video games are a brown people hobby, sir
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>>583400052
raping and killing u fag
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Someone needs to have a Bible for flat to vr ports and mods. Things that should be mandatory such as:
>choosing the dominant hand for aiming
>using your body to store/retrieve equipped items
>optional 3d cutscenes
>toggleable diorama mode for third person games
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>>583400121
Can't do that when you've lost.
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>>583400076
Depends on the genre really.
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>>583400451
wow nice spoilers niggy
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>>583400052
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>lost to macacos central
grim
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>>583400938
hard to beat a spic at their own game to be fair
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>>583400412
On one hand I'd agree but then if I got a dev that made a vr port without playing the games and knowing all this shit by hand I wouldn't even want to play his mods anyway
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>>583400546
VRC is for fags and trannies, the groups with the highest number of non-heterosexuals are Blacks, Latinxes and Thais
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Will Jews have a separate team in the Race War or will they be mixed in with the White team?
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>>583398885
no he meant me
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>only one upcoming event
No Halloween event?
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>>583399728
All the pale skin female avatars had me fooled, not only do lot of you want to be women but you want to be Caucasian or Japanese as well?
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>>583397212
Valve has some patents on varifocal lcd lenses. Maybe one day we will see those in a steam frame pro for like double the cost of the current one.
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>>583403182
yep that's what I was referring to
wouldn't be that cheap since it's basically a LCD screen minus backlight, but not extremely expensive either
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WidmoVR made lens inserts for the Frame but didn't test the eye tracking before shipping them to customers
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>>583401457
it's fantasy races, there's a message explaining it in the last thread


fun fact: the reason middle-easterners like Jews are considered "White" by the US government is that the Naturalization Act of 1790 clearly stated that only Whites can become citizens, and when some Syrian guy was about to lose his citizenship claim due to being non-white, his lawyer argued that if Levantines like his client aren't counted as white, then Jesus Christ, as a Levantine man, would not be White either, and the Christcucks couldn't live with that
[/quote]
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>>583401457
jews are working behind the scenes to ensure the correct outcome, not directly participating
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>>583403741
>fantasy races
And I was about to make an TOS friendly thinly veiled SS outfit for the occasion damn.
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this is who gets a frame and then throws a fit when something doesn't work with their meme distro
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Speaking of fantasy races, there really no good fantasy dungeon crawler for VR?
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>>583404426
There is a lot of dungeons and crawling in vrchat.
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>>583377327
Went in expecting this to be garbage but it was more or less acceptable. I think most rational people don't have an issue with others using ai in various workflows in responsible ways, it's only when you start letting it intrude on design/quality choices in meaningful ways and using it to constantly cut corners or perhaps in malicious ways that it rapidly becomes a problem. The world is unfortunately too shitty on average to stop the Yukis of the world who can't differentiate when slopping is good and when it's detrimental and if they can't even do that then god knows they can't stop the people doing it maliciously to try and turn a profit at the cost of the long term health of the platform.
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https://vrch.at/5gteecn2
SPOOK E SUNDAY NO FAGS ALLOWDD
HELL HOUSE
AND MORE
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>>583404786
Yeah but different kinds of "dungeons" and crawling in another way.
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>>583351656
Something's not quite right with this Dragon Knight but I can't put my finger on it
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>>583377167
starwars huh
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>>583398881
HHHHHHHNNNNGGGGGGGGG!!!
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>>583377167
It does look quite janky but SWG is my favorite game of all time so seeing this is quite fucking based.
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>>583391089
bro you've made the same joke 10 times now if you don't piss on me as soon as you get FBT i will be very dissapointed
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>>583403569
clown world
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>>583402448
Halloween event on October 31!

Still need to develop the template for the house and cutouts

For optimization we may just offload it to like a github image download onto an image loader on the door.
Alpha mask should work
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>>583407191
I be honest with you, with Ai being able to one shot stuff and make super optimized things, we should place old maps used for years on the shelf and come up with something new, new Unity project, new or old idea, start peompting and working to finish this in days/ weeks instead of months.
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>>583407626
Mayhaps.

I do have a soft spot for this old massive project we have made together over the years.

I actually think building upon it like a cohesive relic of cooperation would be best similar to The Cupboard map of the touhou community.

Fully new always, is not always the best choice imo
A collective improvement and building of history is charming too
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i don't understand this event at all.....
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Is this okay for lenses?
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>>583407626
we all saw Y***'s last attempt at an ai generated map...
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>>583407626
hell no, there's already enough slop maps to trudge through in the world list as is.
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>>583405474
Yes as unruly amalgation of preCU and CU.

>>583405941
JtL is down the priorities list. I got physically driveable vehicles with passenger seat working for now. For now sampling is solved without the fun macro memes and equipment is done in somewhat immersive way. Pardon the foveation.
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>>583407925
Just a costume showcase at it’s core
No need to think too hard

Make cute, cool or spooky avatar and showcase it
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>>583407925
Dress up in your halloween avatar, ride the jetbrains skate prefab down to stage, there are houses but nobody kinda stands in them, get on stage, hope the gorilla tape and glue holding togheter the scene prefab holds. 3 judges who wanna be the center of the show talks to much and try to be funny, you know wich 3 "anons" will take the judge spot and try to be le funny.
Before that you need to search for easter eggs to spawn the easter monster re-skinned as a halloween rooster if lucky, else same hen and eggs as on easter event map, maybe reskinned eggs. Anyone who been here longer then 1-2 years are already low enthusiasm for doing the same ahit that has been done since Udon was added to VRC.
The cardboars thing is new atleast.
No offense but by god we need new shit for out events, and with Ai the effort needed to make good stuff fast have never been lower.
>>583407867
Re writing the FbF code to be hyper optimized and keeping the rooms anons made would be good as an example of what you are saying, that I agree with. And anons can even contribute by just posting prompts in thread and have Ai slop it into the halloween map, now that would be a novel event.
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>>583407626
>just vibe code and astra blender model the whole thing bro
You gotta leave
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>>583408723
That's pretty slick. I like the idea of a more persistent world in a VR game where you can build things and have RPG mechanics. So man of these flat game ports are just simple shooters, so it's nice to see you work on something more involved.
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What is NA anime watching?
The lineup at sea anime was not the best. The season looks bleak.
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>>583408949
>People that make things for free should only use the tools I like
Go back
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What made our events special over the years was the soul, now AIfags want to ruin them too. Why do you niggers want to turn everything you touch into slop
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What are some vrchat worlds that are legit interesting for someone who doesnt want to socialize with others
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>>583409609
At least one of the major contributors to even the old and current events is one of the major proponents for AI.
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>>583409609
Go make a hand crafted event, you won't. Those who utilize Ai tools for events now are the same people who made events and shit before Ai, stfu
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>>583409575
>because we are making it for free you shouldn't complain if it is low-quality AI slop
Free isn't an excuse to make something shit.
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>>583403569
the absolute state
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>>583408253
anyone...?
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>>583410062
Realistically, what are you gonna do about it? Whine in the thread? Handcraft your own stuff or stop looking a gift horse in the mouth
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>>583408253
>>583410242
just get the cloth you don't need any kind of cleaning liquid.
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>>583410267
There is a difference between using something as a tool and using something as a crutch. Lot of elite testing doesn't allow calculators for a reason.
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>>583408469
Hey none of the meshes were AI generated there
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Trying to set up FTP on my Frame the way I did it on the Deck but I can't figure it out for some reason
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>>583410242
There are cloths like >>583410383 said that will clean the lenses, look up microfiber cleaning cloths don't just use any type of cloth others can scratch the lenses.
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>>583410654
for me, it's webdav
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>>583410465
Lowers the bar for any anon to bring an idea he has to life, even if he lacks the blender, unity or both skills.
What argument will you pull next "I rather not make anything then use Ai"? Only proving you never made shit and don't have the character to learn or even try.
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>>583410654
open up a Konsole, type in
pacman -Q > packagelist.txt

Then post the file packagelist.txt to https://bpa.st/ and share the link here.
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>>583410465
Yeah but every engineer I know uses a calculator. Your analogy isn't relevant to the idea of VR events unless someone is making an event world specifically to learn Unity and not to actually host an event.
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>>583410992
Which means more shit ideas coming to life instead of the barrier of time, effort, and skill ensuring that an idea has to be worth it to actually implement
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>>583409180
we haven't done the big multibox to decide yet, though this season is pretty rough in general. I know what I'll be pushing for it at least
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Uhhh. Sunday Game Night!
10:30 est!

Somebody suggested we try "Red Flags" for tonight. Problem is, it's only an 8 player instance so I think we'll start with it. When it fills up we'll go to some other game. I'll probably ask for suggestions or go to one of the games in my backlog.

i'll try to throw it up by around 1-1:30 est. :3
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>>583410654
Just use sftp. Same access as ssh.
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>looking for occult themed worlds for Halloween
>find something with no proper description looked interesting
>stumble upon this clock with chalked writing
Uh does anyone know Hebrew?
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>>583410465
>>583411317
nta, but who is to judge if AI is being used as a tool or as a crutch, or if something is worth implementing? UGC platforms have been full of lazy and soulless garbage since the beginning, no AI required.
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>>583400412
There are a lot of like 'VR game best practices' articles from the zucculus dev guides or unity or from GDC talks, but yea it would be nice to have something like that specifically for VR games. Probably slopped up as a bunch of markdown "skills" since these days that's practically what's going to be implementing the mod anyway. Clod can't (yet) play your slop VR mod itself, though given the demos of it or gipity driving a car through an obstacle course irl, it doesn't feel that far off.
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>>583411317
Anon, putting "time" as barrier in thread where most people are 30+ or pushing or past 40s with normal day jobs and likely other hobbies to enjoy is just saying you want nothing happening at all aside from casual hangout and scheduled game lobbies.
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>>583409634
I like the future propulsion lab https://vrchat.com/home/launch?worldId=wrld_e556b391-4aa3-4516-8f95-d36c6278c0f6, it's basically the 3d version of https://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/ (which is also a great autism website)
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>>583410062
>low-quality AI slop
How is low quality handmade slop any different other then "muh sovl"? The problem isn't AI usage, it's people who're incapable of not making shit with the tools available to them
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>>583411869
>>583412396
I've been finding low performance, low bar, AI slopped worlds ever since Astra dropped that are just put together with AI for vast majority of it. The best worlds are always handcrafted from top to bottom, even beyond aesthetics the AI fucks up somewhere every time you might have a clipping issue or no collision with the world in some area. I have yet to find an AI world that was as good or better than some of the amazing handcrafted ones.

>>583412241
Fuck Altman and fuck Yuki have two different meanings.
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>>583411317
I agree- Time and effort are a great filter for absolute crap garbage content, and the advent of AI removes that crucial barrier.
I do not want to wade through one gorillian turds shat out in seconds just to find maybe one or two labor-of-love gems.
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Hey anons. Was thinking of getting Linux. Which distro works best for VR? Is it Cachy?
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>>583411907
We had more high-effort original events in /vrg/ during the years before AI than we have since those RAM-consuming slop engines released.
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>>583412947
Ubuntu
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>>583412749
>The best worlds are always handcrafted
There are high quality AI worlds, you just only notice the bad ones. It's like CGI in movies.
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Started vibecoding my own game, node-based strategy (like galcon).
UI is turbo dogshit right now but the core mechanics work perfectly and it's actually fun
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>>583412947
I've been on Ubuntu for the last 10 years, but I've heard good things about both Bazzite and Cachy vis-a-vis VR
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>>583413219
the problem is that there's now such a low bar for entry that we get flooded with slop content by untalented, unmotivated, unskilled, uninteresting people
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>>583413481
As with everything, the problem isn't the tools, it's the monetization incentive and visibility. It's almost like that's always the problem.
A simple 'Generative AI' category that could be turned off by users, and a rule against 'Creator Economy' users monetizing GenAI worlds would entirely solve the issue.
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>>583413707
VRChat openly panders to their Japanese userbase now because they create the majority of the content. The japs have openly embraced AI with almost none of the controversy it has in the west, so this will never happen.
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I just played the Into Black demo.

It was mediocre and I'm not going to buy the game, but I did like the butler robot.
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>>583409634
Hold that thought I got so many. Just stuck at work.
What are you into, art? Science? Music? Games?
t. Solo world explorer.
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>>583413797
pixiv is Japanese and it lets you turn off the visibility of AI content. If VRChat offered that, there would be no issue.
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>>583413797
But you agree that the problem isn't generative AI, it's how it is being used?
"They'll never restrict AI!" - true, but people aren't going to stop using it either, so both 'solutions' are out of our control. So throwing a fit about people using AI here in /vrg/ is kind of pointless, no? If they make shitty worlds, just call them out for making shitty worlds.
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>>583413074
>newfriends will never understand what it was to watch and participate at the daft punk and justice event in VR
truly one of the best and unique VR experiences I've ever had in this game, and I went to a lot of raves and dance events but those ones I will never forget
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>>583414218
Now ask yourself, would it have felt as special if you discovered all they did was give a video of a Justice concert to Claude and say "make this but in Unity"?
No it fucking wouldn't
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>>583413262
Pretty ebin, slopspeed to you anon. One slopdev tip: find a different font you like and tell it to replace all the text in the game with it. Easy to do but goes a long way to removing the "default unity/godot slopgame" look.
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>>583396447
Golden age is starting now with infinite slopped vr ports.
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>>583412749
>I have yet to find an AI world that was as good or better than some of the amazing handcrafted ones
You paid $0 to visit both
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>>583413970
gimme some bizarre art shit
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>>583415095
Electric bill says otherwise, but regardless lot of great artists in the past made art with not financial incentive so it is no excuse to get sloppy.
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>>583415095
Time is money bobeit
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not a single decent slopped game

not a single decent slopped port

not a single decent slopped model

not a single decent slopped book

not a single decent slopped movie

not a single decent slopped song

what has it given us again?
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>>583415698
have you actually tried any of the slop VR mods?
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>>583415698
>not a single decent slopped song
Once in a while AI makes a banger song, but agree with most of the other stuff.
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>>583415845
yes and i was unimpressed
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>>583415698
People are mass producing clones instead of curating masterpieces. Nobody wants to put in the effort and take a chance at making something genuine and risky because everyone is trying to just shovel shit out as fast as possible.
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Anyone know why steam link doesn't go over 250mbps even when cranked to 350?
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>>583413074
You're omitting the part where half of planet was stuck at home because of slightly worse common flu and fact that people get older and have less time.
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>>583415698
Ai text based gooning.
Fuark it's so good. I was an early adopter of it in 2022.
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>>583416348
because the software is borken, please understand
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>>583412749
For the most part I agree with this, AI is a force multiplier and it will absolutely multiply garbage.
Though, there's worlds we've been to that have used AI in a controlled manner that we could never determine for sure used AI outside of the creator admitting it out of courtesy in the credits section.
I believe that almost all 3D artists who are dedicated to their craft who avoid AI today, under threat of falling behind, will eventually be using it, but only for what it can reliably help create, keeping the fun difficult parts for themselves to solve.
I've been working on a new world in blender for a few months, and have been using AI for a lot of the grunt work. There are frequent mistakes from AI that inexperienced creators wouldn't know to adjust, or redo themselves.
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What races are at the race war?
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>>583415083
unlimited supply of bread and circus while everything else fall apart
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>>583416418
The idea that people have less time as they get older comes from the assumption they will get married and have children. That certainly doesn't apply to 99% of this general.
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>>583413074
We would never be able to do this again because it would be lag city or hide everyone but your 6 friends (and still lag). Even with better hardware. Their daft punk concert was amazing.
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>i only use ai for grunt work
soulless
your events are soulless
your assets are soulless
you will never be a creator, only a user
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>>583416934
I don't run events, schizo-kun
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>>583416913
It's the opposite problem. Between using AI to set up the Udon light controls and using post-processing-based stage light prefabs like VRSL, you could probably slop together something like the Justice show in a week or two. Only that would make it meaningless. The soul of it came from the sheer dedication and effort you could tell went into handcrafting every detail to match the real life concerts.
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>>583416647
human
elf
cybernetic
catgirl
foxgirl
minority
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>>583417254
The only solution I can see is for everyone to actually make an optimised avatar. It's so easy and quick but it just doesn't happen because (You) NEED to be able to coom without changing avatar.
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>>583417254
then make something. see you in 2 years when you release your map
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AI is a tool but you're not getting a house by giving a chimpanzee a hammer, you're getting your skull bashed in.
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>>583417483
The simplest and best solution, unironically, is to performance gate very poor avatars.
Very poor users can even still join the instance, they just show up as an imposter or fallback model to everyone.
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>>583417962
I don't want to see fallbacks. Imposters are okay for people in the background but fallbacks, especially the default public ones, look completely different to their avatar. If I could force it to be imposter only it would be better but I know I can't. I also know I can't use the imposter system as an LOD instead of distance hider. I still want to see peoples avatars otherwise it's the same issue as just hiding everyone but your friends.
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>>583416482
>*shivers down your spine*
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>>583417254
While you could slop together something similar in a week that used to take months, you can also slop together something in months that would've taken years + a whole bunch of specialized graphics/GPU shader knowledge to do fancy effects efficiently. You could do a REALLY good justice concert recreation, not just a 2019-level one.

Before unity and other engines, it used to take weeks to figure out enough opengl glue code to even draw the black triangle but now you can draw a triangle in minutes. Not needing to know trigonometry just to make a 3d game I think on net has improved vidya even if it also means you have to scroll through entire-human-made asset flip unityslop on steam. Some will argue otherwise of course, but I don't feel current AI slop is a difference in kind, just a difference in degree. We'll have figure out some other way to separate out the chaff, but if you still truly like VR games or VRChat maps, you can now up your game without spending years of your life learning and coping all the ways in which unity or vrchat udon or just computers in general can hurt you.
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>>583417962
Imagine if the existing avatar culling system would do force imposters instead of rendering everyone who it's not showing as blue diamonds instead so it's not on the event to use gating but instead users can use whatever avatar they want while individuals can chose what they want to show. I genuinely think Tupper and friends don't even know half the systems that some random dev added and put into one place in the system menus.
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>>583418419
If literally none of your friends have a single poor or better model they can switch to, that sounds like a you issue
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>>583418570
Fix your fucking tri limits, Tupper. 70k+1 going instantly to the very poor bucket means no one is going to bother.
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>>583418705
idol event was performance gated and had full instances for both shows. skill issue
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>>583418832
Literally was just mentioned that you just get your imposter/fallback shown, you can still wear a very poor.
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>>583418705
>>583418705
Never stopped me.
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>brownoids come out of the woodwork to defend AI
why does this always happen?
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>>583419626
because they cant imagine or make anything themselves
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>>583418502
Out of all the talented /vrg/ anons to embrace the slop, I think I'm most disappointed in you H. You genuinely have the knowledge and intelligence to not need it yet you chose that path anyway.
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>>583384143
the only honest conversation to be had is that it has given creative people new tools to create middleware/above average slop, things they would never have created before without AI due to a knowledge/effort hurdle
likewise, and unfortunately, it has also been given to brownoid thirdworldians and retard tech bro normies and they are cranking shit out of the automatic shit machine without care for the quality of content they are producing

the first one can be seen a a debatable upside
but both of them are problematic because without understanding fundamental rules you have no frame of reference for what is 'good'

there is a league of difference between a certain anon vibeslopping SLAM-to-base-station tracking who understands to a degree what he is trying to do using AI as a force multiplier, vs raheesh "saar de daughter wants barbie table. make no mistake" prooompter making a 300k tri table because he doesnt KNOW the (soft) rules of what he is doing enough to recognize a 300k tri table is 'bad'
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>the JPs embrace and love AI since coding and creating shit with a non-latin alphabet/language
>they laugh at westerners that have extreme hate boners for progress for absolutely no reason that decide to kneecap themselves and reject modernity
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>guy that knows how to make stuff and knows it's just a tool vs performative hate trannies that have never coded anything in their lives
yeah i think i know who i agree with
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>>583412241
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AI haters with no substance just sound like performative leftists that screech at you for watching harry potter or going to chic-fil-a
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The steam frame is kinda shit. This entire launch sucks.
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>>583420049
>it has also been given to brownoid thirdworldians and retard tech bro normies and they are cranking shit out of the automatic shit machine without care for the quality of content they are producing
This is what rankles me. The clutter is unforgivable.
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>>583418705
Damn guess you're just going to have to use mesh cutter to remove the polygons of your body that are hidden by your clothes or lilNDMF mesh simplifier addon to decimate your model at upload as well as d4rk avatar optimizer to merge your materials and mesh renderers and double check with avatar performance tools to reduce your vram usage.
You don't even need to open blender any more. lilNDMF comes with the liltoon package, mesh cutter comes with modular avatar, and here are the others:
https://github.com/Thryrallo/VRC-Avatar-Performance-Tools
https://github.com/d4rkc0d3r/d4rkAvatarOptimizer
>but how does this affect me personally.
You will look like a blue diamond or a grey robot if you don't and defeat the purpose of uploading a model in the first place.
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>>583420207
Non-coders like >>583419969 think that good programmers love the process as much as the results the process creates. While it's true that there are some autists out there still typing out hyperoptimized assembly line-by-line for the love of the game, code has always been a means to an end for most developers and they will take any shortcut they can that doesn't hurt the quality of the end result.
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>>583419969
I am sympathetic to this view that AI (specifically the LLM agents form of it i.e. clod/gipity) is in fact a difference in kind and not just a "glorified game engine/IDE/asset pack/prefab/library/programming language". It does feel different in some deep way (I note the irony though that "glorified autocomplete" was the 2024-era dismissal of this).

But at least currently, I still don't feel diminished by having the slop cannon do a bunch of drudge work that I could in principle do but no longer care to. I can still put my soulful somewhere higher in the stack. A woodworker can still use a table saw to slop out some cuts, they don't have to autistically hand-chop everything. (though again some will actually argue exactly table saws do in fact cross the line for "soulful woodworking"). If you care you can listen to my gregg talk for some more of my hot opinions about this.

I could have spent several weeks autistically modifying the Museum of All Things to display images from 4chan threads instead of wikipedia in webm related, and I probably even would've enjoyed some aspects of like cleanly abstracting pipelined http2 image requests and gpu residency of decoded jpegs to make it all efficient. But it would've taken me months for the final result instead of 30 minutes. I just don't know if that's worth the time opportunity cost for a greater appreciation of http caching design.

But yea tl;dr; multiplayer 4chan thread browser museum in VR thing is probably my next slopject, look forward to it
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>>583420505
>just decimate 30k polys off an otherwise green avatar, chud
>you don't want to be very poor, do you?
>what do mean the bug that caused perfomance drops on a 70k+1 tri object in Unity was fixed years ago
>we can't update our limits, that'd be thirdie-phobic
>but we're not gonna do anything about grabpass shaders and the way they tank performance way harder, that sounds like work
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>>583420049
But on average /vrg/ has more of the autistic "use slopcannon to speed up process I know exact steps of that would have taken months before" solodevs than "press button to receive shiny thing" jeets. Look at H and his Quake and gamejam and everything else, he knows what he's doing so he uses slop to speed things up. J made bunch of memey slopshit but he also slopped custom Wivrn with some Quest cameras to slimeVR drift correction. You already mentioned to SLAM to lighthouses, too.
Slop is massive force multiplier for the problem solution oriented /g/ autist.
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>>583421305
True but the solution is the same.
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>>583421578
What is the slime vr drift correction called?
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Oh and also for the race war unfortunately the normal helper that streamed it is unable to this year so there may not be any stream/vod for the race war
gomen friends
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>>583422241
It was in older thread >>583113891 I don't use slimes so I can't judge it but from the autistic explanation it seems to use some form of room scanning Quest does to permanently align the trackers.
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>>583421578
/here/? yes. people here are making some great shit and i can respect the vibeslop even if i dont trust it enough to run something like FPSsloppa on my system
but for everywhere else? fucking no lmao. i wouldnt even consider /g/ to be using it as a multiplier more than it is a force retarder with the amount of time they reee about not having any stolen API keys.

giving the average person a force multiplier just makes them dumber because its multiplying a number <1 while still giving a dopamine shot over generating a solution/thing they are happy with in the end, which spirals their outsourcement of knowledge and keeps them dumb.
like the idiots who used to
>hang on let me google that
for every thing you asked of them, who are now replaced with
>hey chat gippity...
like mother fucker i am asking YOU. i could have done that too. i want YOU, not gippity not claude not google. YOUR answer.
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>>583421305
Sorry bro, I just have no interest in rendering your individually modeled teeth on my gpu.
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>>583396668
https://vrch.at/fk9sgj5j
anmie
latest garbage ui """""""up""""""" date has made the laser pointer invisible for one-handed (index) users, so excuse my poor ability to paste urls for the moment.
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>>583422731
I think the stronger version of this is that back in 2021 if you saw a working, published VR game or vrchat world or piece of art or whatever, the amount of influence the person presenting it was necessarily quite high (unless they commissioned it in which case it's the "I made this" comic), and you could appreciate that. Now the "working" and "published" part no longer have that signal. And this is sad.

However, even back then I still didn't particularly despair that somebody's VRchat was no longer they knew how to write HLSL or multiply quaternions, instead it was more like "did you like your idea enough you can suffer clicking around in unity/blender for hours?". Cool shit still got made. It seems that the going rate for "amount of suffering you must endure before I consider your computer project worth my attention" is still about 2 weeks, not minutes/hours. So if you're on board the slop train, consider doing a couple weeks of stuff still.
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ebay scalp price for steam frame is about +$500 it looks like. why didn't you think of doing this?
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i want to make another outfit but i don't know where to start
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>>583423980
i sucked a guy's cock
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>>583420049
okay but that's not an AI issue, that's an indians should not be allowed on the internet issue
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>>583424098
thanks, very insightful. i'll take that into consideration as i dress my booth model in unity
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>>583424220
skirt boner
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>>583424130
B-but le browns!!!
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>>583391089
>take off headset for 20 seconds
>already pissed on, stabbed, and killed
Will there ever be any peace...
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>>583424130
you forgot the gigachad
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>>583420049
is the above average slop in the room with us now?
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>>583407106
Bro?
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Hate my life.
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>>583426093
Yeah me too thanks
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Love my life.
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>>583426074
Completely NSFW.
Disgusting.
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>>583407106
I could piss on you with fbt anon.
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>>583426074
Completely SFW!
Cute!
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>steam support slow to respond
Guess this will be my first and last time buying Valve hardware.
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every 30-60 seconds I get horrid frame lag lasting sometimes multiple seconds. It happens with every game, with multiple host PCs... it's due to meta sending 3d scans of my home back to their servers right? am I getting zucced? do I need a minion router?
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>in a pub
>yapping with functional people
>THEY bring up the topic of jews and start yapping about nuking israel and ((the banking class)) devaluing our currency
>forget where i am because this is levels of based i havent seen in pubs in a while
>one of them mentions how theyre kind of disgusted with america and its culture
>"are you disgusted with America or just disgusted with blacks and their culture?"
>wtf anon
>????
>roll a nat 20 and bullshit my way though with a sorry the mouth spoke faster than the brain did since ive been drinking tonight, heard someone say that like last week and its been living in my head rent free because they were also ranting about jews so i got reminded of them thats my bad *forced drunk giggle*
>they immediately go back to "Yeah so netanyahu...."
sometimes i hate living +1 step in front of everyone else because its easy to forget you are 1 step ahead
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>>583428940
are you fucking retarded? did you skip history in highschool or some shit or did you get raised in the south at one of those confederate schools where they claim imperialism isn't real and that slavery was good for people?
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>>583428940
would anyone like to take bets on this anon's skin color?

i've got 400 vbucks on light brown
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>>583428940
vr games
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>>583428940
america has spent 200 years bombing and invading third world countries to take their shit and kill their civilians and when someone mentions it your first thought is "bro did you hear about niggers? did you hear about niggers in my butthole?"
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Pure fag here, looking for someone to hold hands with. I know you're out there. I'm going to hold your hand until you fall asleep anon.
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>>583431002
sorry, im a purefag, not a pure fag
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>>583429547
Do you have a more recent one? If not then don't bother replying to this post.
Anyways...I saw that pic back around maybe 2011 or so. Lot has happened since then.
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>>583422921
thanks for coming frems
Multibox soon
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Is there a log or anything? I'm getting random crashes and would like to see what could be causing it.
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>>583433751
For vrchat btw
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>>583433840
yea, in appdata
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>>583433751
output_log_(date_here).txt
AppData\LocalLow\VRChat
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How do world stats work? I've been monitoring a particular world and it hasn't had visits within some period of time, however, the favorite count went up drastically during the same period, so I'm not sure the favorite count is updated in real time.
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>>583379017
with japs regularly throwing tantrums and deleting all their shit at random, it isn't surprising some over there decided to say fuck it and make their own content
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>>583424737
>Will there ever be any peace
For you? No.
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>>583435470
>with japs regularly throwing tantrums and deleting all their shit at random
There was this avatar I wanted but can't get it now because the Jap behind it had temper tantrum over one of his avatars getting ripped so he took down everything. I was actually willing to buy I guess his loss.
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>get steam frame
>remove plastic cover
>covered in grease???
>airdust and wipe with microfiber cloth it came with, nothing
>go through 6 different micro cloth fibers
>try a dab of distilled water, nothing
>try a dab of isopropyl alcohol, nothing
>try some cheap $20 camera cleaning kit for lenses
>just werks and lenses look brand new
Valve's own guide/tip sucks ass guys. For any lurkers, I used a k&f concept 4 in 1 camera cleaning pack. its cheap and doesn't smear grease

also after cleaning pack the frame up and dont use it until you get inserts, prescription or not. not worth the headache that is steam support or having to replace the headset
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If a booth avi page says it has 52 shape keys for face tracking does that mean it has face tracking or am I going to have to bust my balls to get it working?
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>>583436381
Weird, mine didn't have any oil until I accidentally touched my face to the lenses.
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>>583436381
>>583436789
use cum, idiot
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>>583436789
I don't know what was up with mine. I've been using the spacer because I was paranoid my eyelashes would scratch the lenses but now that I know what works im ordering more cleaning supplies
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>>583416348
some HMDs have NICs that don't do high bitrates well
also Steam VRLink is designed to keep your latency low so if it sees your HMD's chip decoding struggle at higher bitrates, it'll keep them lower
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Wow cute avatar, i wonder how mu-
>23,000 yen
>uploaded 2020
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxuTd9rwEHQ
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>>583437412
YYM is morally correct to pirate
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>>583411706
Creepy world. Sorry bro no hebrew knwoledge
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>>583421191
>But yea tl;dr; multiplayer 4chan thread browser museum in VR thing is probably my next slopject, look forward to it
We already have this via FF's browser no?
Can easily modify their base into a museum type thing
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>>583415360
>>583409634
Bizzare art stuff here you go:
https://vrchat.com/home/world/wrld_f6e74d95-24b9-4373-8804-781d0c9e840f/info
https://vrchat.com/home/world/wrld_f77ae7c7-657b-4538-b694-87ebd083f307/info
https://vrchat.com/home/world/wrld_9ac9ed36-adb0-491a-8757-d250f21c9bcf/info
https://vrchat.com/home/world/wrld_e9c38ee6-b095-4431-b9f4-e95429a18876/info
These are just some world's ive hosted for a few special world explos.
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>>583437412
If they wanted you to buy it, they'd price it reasonably, so clearly it is their intention for you to pirate it. Same goes with limited availability items.
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Streamable.com thought I actually put up a GWoT propaganda vid
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>>583427050
Use the VD setting that shows what's spiking when it happens, if its WIFI try playing with nothing else connected to see if it fixes it, for me I tried everything and it turns out my Phillips Hue light bulbs were causing random lag spikes
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>>583428940
dude you are literally +1 step behind for thinking blacks are the issue
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SEA Volleyball tonight (~3h20m)
7pm JST / 9pm AEDT
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>>583442425
I don't think I can login for this tonight. Have fun at volleyball bros
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>>583442165
I am using steam link. Time to do some network administration I guess...
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>>583442715
GRTM.
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Join the group and use this poster in your worlds.
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is there any way to package the lights i've added in blender so they convert over to unity instead of having to place all the lights again?
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4chan is too popular now we should ask what chans do you browse instead.
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yeah i browse cumchan and dickddit
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>>583443075
So they don't believe in creative equality. I thought VRChat would like people of all skill levels, regardless of the tools being used, to create things. This here is not about Ai it's actually about who is and who is not allowed to create, using Ai as an escape goat.
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>>583443753
Everything else is nothing but 2post per month, or fed honeypot nonsense.
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>>583443753
You seem to be mistaken on what the point of the question is.

The question is asked not so we are a super secret internet group.

The question is asked so we know they are here with us and browse and post with us here. A homely vibe of using our energy on those who willingly choose to be here with us.

There is a reason why I still prefer /vrg/ people more than just people who browse 4chan but not /vrg/ yet.
They're not here in the home thread we chose yet. But it's nice they're around town yah know. Easy enough for them to drop by at least from time to time.

But home is here where /vrg/ anons post
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>>583443075
I love the message but this is probably the most retarted and corniest thing I've seen yet.
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>>583429336
Huh? Did I miss something and only Latinx hate blacks now? I thought everyone hated blacks
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I'm pro AI in VRChat because I don't use VRChat and it's funny to see the trannies win.
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good morning
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>>583415698
Big walk, titanfall, doom
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>>583444885
>doom
'No.'
Max Payne looks neat though
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>>583415698
humans haven't given us anything decent either
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>>583444557
Nta but id hardly call that a cornerstone of American culture. The only people who think thug culture and the monetization of it is American culture is /pol/ who are overwhelmingly brown. They are a symptom of a problem hardly a cause.
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>>583445195
I'd say you're mostly right about that but I think that anon was agreeing with that sentiment. Most third worlders do think our culture is just what they see thug rappers rap about so asking if they hate actual american culture or just the niggers they see on TV is an appropriate question
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>>583445454
Wah?
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>>583445454
?????????????
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>>583445454
sometimes i forget that people with learning disabilities are also ending up on 4chan
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Is there SEA jong today?
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>>583445802
>>583445850
>>583445981
what did I miss
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>>583445989
Tomorrow
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>>583446109
Luddite pyschosis, the water problem can easily be solved with having less brown people, the solution to 80% of the problems we have in the world today
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please...... no more ai posting...
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>>583442731
today I learned that my fancy router that allows for up to three 5G networks actually has only one radio and splits air time between them.

damn the minion router actually seems worth it
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Gork, please generate the anon above me naked and being blasted with yogurt
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>>583446587
reeeeeeeetaaaaaaard
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>>583446109
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>>583446208
why dont we just get rid of browns and ai
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>>583446908
He's right. Anti generative AI but still calling "water usage" alarmists retarded is objectively the correct stance.
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REMINDER:
Casual SEA Mahjong - 24 hours from now
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There are quite a few good reasons to be anti-AI but water usage is not one of them
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idc about water usage because i only drink sodas
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>>583446996
I am absolutely confident that the water thing was poisoning the well
it's the perfect level of retarded to discredit anything it is flung at
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Improved hair.
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Cool demo for a rhythm game. It works well it's quite responsive; the only critique I would have at the moment is it's hard to tell if you've actually hit a button since there's no tactile response like irl.
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>>583447862
sex
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>>583446886
why are you like this
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>>583447906
i'll make your prostate give my cock tactile response
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I'm enjoying my Pimax Dream Air but I'm only getting around 60 fps due to only having a 5070ti. I didn't feel like spending the $5000 on a 5090 a year ago and now they're like $7000.
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>>583448317
5070ti is pretty near peak anyway when it comes to sub-5090 class cards. You just can't win.
At least until foveated rendering gets slopped up; lets fucking goooo
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>>583446996
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>>583448441
I thought I had my graphic settings turned down but I might have to redo them for the headset, I've only flown around in VR for a few hours and didn't bother to mess with any settings. I also need to figure out if there's a way to stream it as one screen instead of the two lenses.
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>>583446208
you're annoying and white
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>>583447705
If it was, it's totally failed, grassroot support for stopping data center construction is massive now and plenty of politicians are falling in line against it due to threats from the voterbase, with projects being commonly blocked at the local level.
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>>583449707
white hands typed this post
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Anyone play that re4 vr mod yet, worth playing?
Will the installer give my pc mustard gas
Should I install that pick up avatar gimmick onto my gremlin
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>>583448228
Frankly my dear I don't give a damn
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all of you are so fucking mean
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>>583450451
I'm the most nice person here
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>>583439203
Fuck chakapo, genuinely
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>>583450451
dont piss me off then.
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Misleading AI thumbnails are annoying, sure.

The issue is the deception, not the tool.

World thumbnails used to be captured in the editor. What you uploaded is what people saw.

Creators wanted more control over how their work was presented, and VRChat gave it to them: a custom image, and room to show the work on their own terms.

That flexibility was earned. Some people used it to misrepresent what they uploaded.

A generated poster for a world that does not match the image, placed on an empty or unfinished upload so it looks complete in search, is a false listing.

The cover is not the product. Treating it as one is a shortcut, not a creation.

The frustration belongs with the person using the tool for a quick gain, not with the tool itself. And the ranked system already handles that kind of grift.

Plenty of people put serious effort into work that involves AI. Worlds, assets, pipelines, projects they built and can stand behind.

Almost everyone uses it in some small way to get past a technical limits in world creation.

Treating that the same as a fake poster punishes the wrong person and lets the actual misrepresentation go unaddressed.

Boycott them all you want, Stop contributing. Hell stop using VRChat if its so important to you. Someone will take your freshly vacated seat before the seat cools off. That’s the nature of this space and you all know it.

Call out the false listing.

Stop treating this like a purity test. Leave the people actually making something alone.

Y’all get so narrow vision about categorically language and moab tactics that it is quite poisonous to the space.

Nobody wants to come clean and the reality of creation. But When you get stuck on a toggle none of you are bitching about cyan-laser not updating their framework anymore.. why is that i wonder?
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>>583450451
not even. some substitute snark for a personality bc they never learned how to socialize, but a lot of us are pretty chill.
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>>583450825
I asked chatgpt to tldr this

AI thumbnails aren’t the problem—deceptive listings are, so criticize the people misrepresenting their work rather than condemning AI or everyone who uses it.
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>>583450825
stop shitting up the thread with your chatgpt copypasta, Isaac.
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>>583450825
I'm amazed how you don't know about just putting an image on a plane and capture that, or the dozen of unity scripts that was used to render an image to the camera texture long before the custom image was added.
Ai, newfag or both? (I know I'm replying to Ai dw)
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>>583447906
That's literally just unpolished Resonark?
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More vibe coded sloppa coming right up
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My lens inserts have been stuck manufacturing for a week now. Frame's sitting there like the fucking green goblin mask man...
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>>583451695
Don't do it
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>>583451695
Get contacts if you have to; some opticians literally give out free samples to try and get you hooked
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>>583451682
Only tangentially related but like, there sure has been a stark rise of random "check out this Unity/Blender tool I 'made'!" things recently...
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>>583451695
I've been using contacts until my Frame and Pimax lenses get here. I bought the AMVR ones for the Frame but apparently they scratch the lenses so I ordered vr optician
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>>583451826
>apparently they scratch the lenses
HUH WHAT? I need to hear about this
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>>583451814
my shits dry as a desert and doc recommended against em, otherwise I definitely would



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