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Previous >>583249385
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>>583377646
kino goat
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Undead males look so weird, I might have to make my paladin female their model is so much better.
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everyone should be a draenei
space goats coast to coast
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remember all the hate he got and who replaced him
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>>583378441
I will never stop shitting on his retarded ass! At least the moderns devs do pve/pvp balance
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>>583356964
Started playing and its kind of fun so far. Was the island start for the Horde always the tutorial zone, or did it change over the updates? I have a vague memory of watching my friend play this back in 2010 and it was a forest with wolves, unless that is the Alliance start.
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>>583377646
Because compelling grimdark/tragedy generally requires the writer suffered some sort of fucked up tragedy or genuine hardship in life to understand how the process goes and coddled commiefornians don't know what actual suffering looks like.
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>>583379443
that sound like elwynn forest
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>>583379484
And that was meant for >>583293354
Idk how I clicked on OP's shit.
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>>583379443

Is there any game you troons don't use to play as a woman?
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different
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>>583379443
The island is a new thing that exists for both factions' new players. Original starter zones are still there if you choose to do them.
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>>583379443
you're thinking of elwynn

the island you're playing now is the 'modern' tutorial instead of the old standard starting zones
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>>583379927
trust me
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god i wish i were my vulpera
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slutty eredar gf
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>>583380101
ack
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Nokhud offensive should have been the first raid for dragonflight.
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>>583379863
Oh no I'm a man, I just like goblin women.
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>>583380301
hammers up!!!
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>>583380557
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>>583380557
disgusting
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>>583380524
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>>583380730
>t.
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>>583380431
What the hell would you even put in there boss and lore wise?
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>>583380823
I wish I could play this even with the horrible human facial hair
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>>583380436
> I like goblin women so i roleplay i am a woman

Are you trans because you're a porn addict, or you're a porn addict because you're trans?
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>>583380557
why my brain stops working when watching these jugs
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>>583381060
Anon it isn't that complex
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>>583381721

Clearly.
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>1 day thread yet again
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>0 vulpera content
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>>583381828
Wait... that character looks kind of like............
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>>583380848
Lore wise exactly the same, just make the centaur khan a raid boss. the instance is massive and in terms of threat posed nothing says a raid has to be a world ending calamity. just add a few more boss fights.
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>>583382907
it should be "would you still love me if I wasnt a dagger?"
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>>583382907
If only she'd be my chubby busty housewife.
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>>583382907
How they managed to make worse villain than J'lor.
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why does this schizo pretend to be a new player every single day itt, what the fuck is wrong with this guy
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>>583382495
What would "vulpera content" entail?
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New player here
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>>583383594
not him but the vulpera recruitment questline was good vulpera content
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>>583383361
it's funny as fuck they gave up and just do official feet memes now with her
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>>583384246
theres a fucking in game command that shows you her feet
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>>583384157
YJK
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>>583383361
She's yet another female antag. Probably doesn't help that she was killed as a child and they kinda wanna lean into her acting like a scared kid because her soul didn't grow past that.
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>>583383361
They wanted to make Azshara 2.0. The problem is Azshara was already a shit villain.
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>>583384589
she died when she was a kid but now she is ancient, she was sealed even before the ordering of azeroth
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>>583384698
She has ancient knowledge and experience but not ancient emotional control is what I'm saying. She acts like a brat and has melties when she's not in control.
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yea forever isn't going to be it at all desu just got sold into the hype it might make retail better though since there's going to be a no flying mode next expansion
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is there even any gold making avenues at this point
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>>583385409
your options are:
do nothing but play the ah, really you can't play the game just the ah for hours
sell raw mats on release of the new expansion
sell boosts
sell tokens
do all the weeklies and gold wqs with 20 characters
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>>583385506
you can also make a bunch of gold with crafting if you have a lot of alts
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>>583383594
getting possessed by a troll mask to take off her clothes
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>>583385409
>>583385506
you can still make money selling ore and cloth.

Leather and herbs are worthless though.
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it has begun
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>>583385409
At the start of an expansion you can make an army of alts crafting the crafting equipment category of items. First the blue ones on R5 and then the purple ones. People make tens of millions this way and are set for the rest of the expac without needing to sell boosts for a steady income.
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>>583386024

Seems they only added dykes to forever, 0 gays. Weird.
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>>583386024
The best part is that that quest giver isn't even genderbent on retail.
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>>583386113
they added that faggot elf in the barrens
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>>583386024
>>583386152
This is nothing compared with the manrik better orc changes
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Does fishing have any use in game or is it a meme mechanic?
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>>583386024
Grummz is as much of an annoying fag as the average modern blizz employee.
Classic case of a chink thinking he's an honorary white.
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>>583386567
Food uses fish.
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>>583386567
it is used to get some of the most powerful equipment and weapons in the game
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>>583386676
There's a reason he was bundled out of Blizzard very early in WoW's life.
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>>583386024
This is Forevers Pelagos-moment
>it's just one tranny who cares
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midnight is the first expansion since nazjatar where i'm going to be taking a break (from retail). can't get gear from anything but ulatek which is a fucking nightmare for pugs, they expect +18s for an undermine recolor mount, and we're about to get more "content" in the form of faggoty fucking invasions. i'm tired boss
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>>583387361
Kith'ix might replace some Ula'tek slots but yeah, that boss is kinda unobtainable for pugs. I basically abandoned my alt when I hit that wall and it's not like I can't get into good groups with 8/8H and 6/8M, it's just that they fucking suck and the time isn't worth the effort.
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>>583387304
>blue elves
>kyrians
Hmm...
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>>583387361
18s are really easy this season to be fair
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>>583387671
ok and? you still have to deal with the purgatory that is 13-17 before niggers start declining you from 18s
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>>583387671
yeah sure but i don't want to go through the effort of doing +12s and then 14s and then 16s just to get invited to 18s, especially when there's no gear to be had in dungeon pools and i have to dedicate free time to trying to kill ulatek in pugs since globo couldn't do it. a myth track vers haste piece (read: 90% of dungeon loot) is worse than basically anything off the last 2 bosses
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>>583387865
>>583387915
just use your own key
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>Blue elves were supposed to be night elves who were burned in Teldrassil but some of them made it to the Bastion and were supposed to be new playable race in Shadowlands
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>>583387981
>niggers brick it in 10 seconds then you are left with a fucking 17 dud while everyone else gets to move on
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>>583387981
see >>583388153
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I don't know why people expect to easily pug 18+ keys with random mexicans and blame the system for their lack of networking.
It's an MMO. Make friends.
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>>583387915
Imagine being in a guild that cant get curve. Couldn't be me
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>>583388334
I ran 18s with mexicans and got 3600 this weekend
>make friends
no the last thing I want is wow friends and schedule my gayming
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>>583385694
https://files.catbox.moe/robrjp.png
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>>583388538
how does a snout fit behind that mask?
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>>583388358
globo can usually at least get aotc even if it takes a few weeks, but the last 2 platform breaks are so fucking unforgiving. losing even 2-3 of our lower dps at the makes the fight unkillable, and our best dps can't get meaningful upgrades because they're all from fucking ulatek. i'm still using guidon for my use trinket because the only replacement is a hero/myth track ulatek trinket
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>>583388538
finally some good vulpera content!
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>be circa i dont know wotlk halfway after icc's release
>hunter main, struggling heavily with things irl, really fucked up my college semester, no friends, dial up
>gave up on my hunter for a bit and leveled a dk
>I'm not very good
>standing outside icc looking for a raiding group
>suddenly get a whisper asking me if I want to off tank
>have literally not gotten past lady deathwhisper but say sure
>join ventrilo
>nervous asf
>bunch of older guys and like 4 girls (I am now nervous and anxious)
>say I'm new pls no bully would be cool to get to gunship but if I suck just kick me woe is me
>"nah, bro, we're gonna one shot everything up to LK you good"
>Mt who is also the Glead just tells me in super simple turns how to do each fight
>I'm legitimately amazed
>get like 4 pieces of gear
>one of the girls seems to sniff out I'm younger and starts flirting with me
>we get LK to second phase a few times and call it a night
>that same girl sinks her claws into me

She was a pedophile but I won't go further unless theres interest
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>>583388679
Magic
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>>583388679
The mask has a portal that sends the snout into the middle of a horny troll camp.
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>>583388715
Bruh fucking trade chat guilds can clear that shit. No excuse. Drop those retards if you want to bonus roll it that bad
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>>583388538
i look like this
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>>583387361
>can't get gear from anything but ulatek which is a fucking nightmare for pugs
>>583387529
>that boss is kinda unobtainable for pugs.

its really not that bad
raid on tuesday morons
t. pissed and shitted when i saw the loot tables
takes me and hour to do a skip run
i need two more kills on my alt and i don't have to touch the boss ever again unless i want OS loot
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Would this be a good addon in retail?
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>>583389352
Considering it uses the broken as fuck, barely functioning statistics tab for your gold stats? It won't even work in Forever after a week.
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>>583388334
don't care if the mexicans do their jobs
t. have two characters over 3600
i'm all for prejudice but at least be reasonable
you guys act like beans can't copy the meta builds and press their buttons like you can
you're just making yourself look stupid
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>>583388715
>i'm still using guidon for my use trinket because the only replacement is a hero/myth track ulatek trinket
KEJ
replaced mine this week
JUST PUG
YOU GUYS ARE DRINKING THE FUCKING KOOLAID
ITS NOT THAT BAD
JFC
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>t. mexican
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>>583389347
>raid on tuesday
i work 3-11 on weekdays assuming no overtime. my only options are to wake up exactly at reset to try and pug or suffer with weekendtards
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>tfw local truck driver so the only thing i can do in this game is m+
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>>583389352
no? retail is not filled with mentally ill faggots tracking every gold movement.
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>>583389874
most of the guys in m+, BG blitz and H pugs play like they are on disability cheques
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>>583389767
best groups are at reset or you can pug with australian neets when you get off work, australian groups really are the best unironically
>>583389763
whiter than you mystery meat mutt
that one brazilian guy from tww literally smokes 95% of this thread
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>>583390203
>95%
more like 99
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stereotypes exist for a reason
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>got so goddamn tired of people whining about not wanting to tank
>its too hard
>everyone will blame you
>you have to know all the strats
>it takes too long to gear
>cook a meal, sit down, start up a 30 min playlist of everything to know about season 2 dungeons

>....

>what the fuck its THAT easy??
>the goddamn trash is harder than some bosses
>roll a dk, 317 Ilvl the first weekend
>working on a monk now
>will finish with warrior
>instant invite to groups
>literally just press an oh shit button sometimes
>have had only ONE fail run in narolakk because the idiot dps didnt know to interrupt the ice elementals on 2nd boss
>like 14 other runs were fine
>keystone master in a fucking weekend

What is your <actual> problem with tanking, wowgee?
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>>583390553
when people complain about tanking they usually talk about high keys, you can run up to like 16s with 0 knowledge and lindormis guidance
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us minorities gotta stick together
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>>583390553
Tanking is great because even when a key falls apart you're in the next key within minutes
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>>583390553
>>everyone will blame you
why even care
>>it takes too long to gear
that goes for every class
the actual problem is that if you need raid gear you should gear for dps because its much harder to get into gorups as a tank
i really hate that i need multiple sets of gear, for instance i'm going to have to recraft multiple pieces of gear for the reclear this week, and then back again when i'm done, i don't have to do this but i'm going to.
>What is your <actual> problem with tanking, wowgee?
i can only play one tank effectively, fortunately its BDK
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>>583387643
uh oh oh oh,....l,l,,. AHAHAHAAHAHAH LOL

SKYBORNE??????

THEY ARE BORN IN THE SKY

CAUSE THEY SUICIDED ON EARTH

LIKE TRANNIDES DO
GET IT LOL? LOL

SKYBORNE

THEY ARE ALREADY DEAD

NOW U SEE THEIR BLUE FLOATING SPIRIT AS AN "ELF" AAHAHAH SKYBORNE SKYUTROONE TROONEY TROONEY TROONY SKYBORNE AAAHAH LMAO LOL HANGED FROM A ROPE MORE LIK!! LMAO LOL1!!!
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>>583383594
>>583385694
>>583388780
I don't do furshit usually but the scenario was too tempting.
https://n.uguu.se/LeqEVDEu.jpg
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>>583388780
https://files.catbox.moe/xsh9dm.png
>>583391887
Based
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>furshit spam hours
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>>583392069
as opposed to the elfshit/doomtranny/mexican/cl*ssic/assmonshit/whateverelseidontlike spam?
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>>583391952
>>583391887
Good stuff!
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>>583391887
And since the prompt was already there and asking for it here's a zoomed in version of the face.
https://d.uguu.se/VNWBkNay.jpg
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>join a pug
>group is killing bosses fine
>raid leader randomly wastes everybody's time by making us sit in front of a boss for 10 minutes while he fills to 30
>suddenly can't kill bosses any more
every
single
time
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>>583392069
>REEE SLOPPERS ARE KILLING THE GENERAL!!
>All the sloppers leave outside of futtfags
>General is now completely dead and only furries making fagslop
As every anon said ever. Furries ruin a general complain and then get a janny to do their shit work and now it's just them erping in a dead thread.
/.s
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>raid night
>raid leader explaining tactics
>chip bag rustles
>slut stacey interrupting every time a new mechanic is explained and/or demands a marker be placed
>some moon language argument happening in the background on someone's mic
>chip bag rustles
>moron michael says they're back from being afk and needs a fight rundown
>raid leader starts tactics over
>chip bag rustles
Every.
Time.
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Came back after 5 years to check the game out and the story is still abysmal amnesic dogshit where the writers forget what happened 10 quests ago or the order they happened in.
Truly sad.
Looks like the abusive near-endless grind is still in too, though thankfully far less than it used to be.
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KYYYYYYAH~ I'M GONNA
I'M GONNA P-POP MY
VIRULENT PLAGUE KYYYYYAHHH~~
AGH~
ooh...
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>>583392969
>and the story
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>>583393205
oh yeah i forgot to add that gearing in midnight fucking SUCKS
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>>583393347
What, not a fan of spamming a thousand 12s to get myth crests?
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>>583393431
>things that are only a problem when you fotm reroll mid season like a fucking shitter
nice selfown retardo
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are the sims actually correct? if I can't reach the sim's values on a target dummy does that mean I'm an absolute shitter?
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>>583393616
no because the sims are usually fully buffed, no mechanics, no movement nothing but pressing buttons
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>>583393431
i cant do even one m+ just fuck this shit, i would rather suck virtual female goat dicks in goldshire for gear
probably less embarassing and time efficient
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>>583393616
If you're hitting target dummy you should use the target dummy sim option on raidbots and compare against that.
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>>583393230
yeah it used to be good and still has good framework but they insist on forgetting everything and constantly making errors because they don't give a fuck
what else is there, pve with intentionally garbage balance that they shuffle around fotm? All specs could be brought in line if they believed in it but they want it to be imba. Pve is also gearbased still, better get grinding!
Pvp is also gearbased and fotm, better get grinding!
Want to collect everything in a game where it would be fun and there's a lot to collect? Sorry we just removed another 5 dozen items because we're addicted to FOMO. Try again in 20 years we might bring back remix if you stay subbed, sub!
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>>583393693
>>583393767
I did put target dummy, no buffs, and I'm -10% of the sims result
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>>583393960
disable buffs and compare the damage
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>>583393614
>I made up a fake scenario in my head to insult you with
I have a main I've mained from the start, this garbage system doesn't concern me. It concerns player engagement on alts and new players who are joining mid-season, you smoothbrained cunt.
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>>583393875
>used to be good
It's been bad longer than it was every okay or decent.
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>>583393875
wow's story hasn't been good for 10-16 years depending on who you ask
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>>583394149
it wasnt even good in vanilla or wotlk
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tranny
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>>583394036
>angry retard babble
yea anyway, complete non-issue for anyone who isn't a fotm freak, like I said. Get fucked retardo
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>>583392969
If you asked me what happened between Dragonflight and Now in even the most simplist terms I wouldn't be able to tell you much more than for the last 4 years Xala'toes got the McGuffin and That's Bad For Some Reason.

That's literally all I can tell you.
I fucking tried, god I fucking tried, to make sense of TWW and Midnight but the moment Gallywix's stuff happens it all goes to shit.
It took them 100 quests to explain dimensious and his fight is literally just Sarth -1.0, Xalatath just smirks and does whatever she wants 24/7 so what the fuck.
The entirety of the Haranirarambe story line could be cut and it would have ZERO affect on things. Like literally just get rid of their zone and it would have no true change.
We are helping the Blood Elves make friends with the Amani who, since time immemorial, were sworn enemies with canonical rape, consumption, and enslavement on the trolls part and genocide, immolation, and magical torture on the elf side. Now I stfg its like they want Liadrin and Zul'fuckingwhoeversheis to have a sexual relationship.

Umbric is literally the only character I see who has some semblance of power and dare I say professionalism about him. Arator needs an entire plot line with foal to realize that the light isnt strong if you are good, it's strong if you have conviction like we knew this literally back in vanilla scarlet monastery.
Murder row is known to be infested with fel addicts and demon cultists and it takes a slightly more curious than most DH to think maybe something is up.
What should have been a Paladin's wet dream expansion only gives them a thigh tabard and an HD charger mount.
VElf DH Devour spec characters are now the most canonically rare character in the game.

They must have first been a High/Blood Elf.
Became an illidari.
Survived the prison outbreak.
Survived Argus.
Accompanied Alleria to the sunwell.
Became Ren'dorei along with approx no more than 100 (and that's generous) others.
Became a devourer

W T F.
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>>583393960
Then there's something you need to work on in your rotation. Compare your cast count to the sim's cast count, scroll down to the sample timeline near the bottom and see how it's doing its opener.
>>583394007
target dummy sims disable all buffs and consumes retardo.
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>>583394671
didn't read your shitty blog but wow that cutscene is fucking garbage
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>>583394772
then you suck and you don't know your rotation
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We should've just appreciated MoP more. Entire original continent with an interesting backstory and multiple distinguished cultures. Dah Thundah King slotting perfectly into the mythology of the setting up to that point along with his Mogu. The Mantid being an interesting take on Aqir. The Horde Civil war feeling like a proper conclusion to that era of Warcraft.
Y'shaarj actually feeling like a proper depiction of an eldritch horror that even in "death" still manages to linger over every beat of the plot.
But we threw it all away for WC2 and 3 nostalgia pandering because we had a movie to sell. Fresh interesting ideas gone and forgotten, nothing but regurgitated plot beats from WC2-WOTLK every expansion.
Where did it all go wrong, where did Blizzard lose it's creative sauce for the setting?
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>>583394662
It's bad for the health of the game. If you can't see this or understand my posts then you're actually braindead.
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>>583394885
You really can't fucking read or follow a conversation, can you?
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>>583394671
There is no fucking way that's an actual cut scene in this game.
This has to be a pre-release thing right?
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>>583394916
>The Horde Civil war feeling like a proper conclusion to that era of Warcraft.
Nah that was trash.

>Where did it all go wrong, where did Blizzard lose it's creative sauce for the setting?
Oldfags left, newfags came.
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>>583394916
if they replaced pandaren with literally any other race, nobody would've complained about mop. yes i know pandaren have been canon forever but the masses thought it was a kungfu panda rip off
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>>583394916
The quality declined when the Titan devs moved back for WoD and Legion
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>>583395267
The timing of the patent for pandaria / pandaren and it lining up perfectly with Kung Fu panda 2 AND it being the time when Blizz was really getting in bed with China all stacks up too nice and neatly for it to be just an ass pull.

That being said, I have softened my opinion over the years, I find the girl pandas fun to play though they suffer from fem-kt syndrome a lot of the time in terms of gear. They look and feel good as monks.
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>>583395464
I want a Human wife
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>>583390553
my problem with tanking is that it's nearly impossible to get a raid spot as one
that, and rune prices currently suck
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>>583395624
I wish human females were real.
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>>583396092
HUGE
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>>583396092
why are human women so perfect?
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I am curious about which tank classes also have fun dps specs to play when I want to mix it up, any suggestions?
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>>583396319
death knight
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>>583396319
dk, dh and paladin
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>>583394671
>it's real
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>583392674
wasn't sloppanon sitting in the thread for like 5 hours yesterday
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>>583394671
you also failed to mention that the storyline in that gif was so poorly received that it went from a main campaign quest to a fucking sidequest LMAO
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>>583392674
it sounds like you’re jealous of the fursloppers
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>>583396319
"Fun" is subjective, but IMO

Warrior, Fury is fun if you like button mashing press what lights up, arms is fun if you enjoy a more technical spec, you have to press the buttons in the right order to do damage and that order is NOT fixed but changes based on procs.

Paladin, Retribution is fun in a sort of mindless pubstomping way. It is not complicated but I never really get bored of it either.

Demon hunter has havoc, which while completely different fron ret gameplay wise is that same in that its a facerolly nuke simulator that can just manfight basically anything it encounters. IMO devourer is not fun.

Monk is controversial, some people Love Bremaster and Windwalker, some people hate them, I think they are both fun specs.

Druid Tanking is dull if powerful but I have never enjoyed Moonkin since they rebuilt it and same for feral. When druid was just 3/4 power on four different classes slightly simplified with extra CC it was fun. But in the attempt to make feral !not rogue and balance !not (other caster) they jumped the shark and made both specs awkward and unfun.

Death Knight has frost which is imo a fun spec.
I have always hated unholy.
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>>583396829
There were at least two of us here making undead sloppa yesterday, yes. No idea if there's a third one, haven't noticed distinct enough styles.
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>>583398101
yeah that was him you're thinking of
was the 3d guy and sloppanon who makes anime looking stuff usually
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>>583394671
>Faerin says: He looks just like me!
>Faerin runs up to the ghost of Thoradin.
>Thoradin says: Daughter of Arathor. As thanks for awakening me, I will heal your severely burned skin.
>Thoradin says: What was it, dragonfire? Put your shield down for a second, I'm having trouble cleansing you.
>Faerin says: My ancestor :).
>Thoradin says: Hold on... Our descendents mated with...
>Faerin says: Elves! Our staunchest allies.
>Thoradin says: Elves AND niggers? Foul niggelf beast!
>Faerin says: It's okay! Our history books detail how you had to pretend to dislike Elves and black people because of bigoted-
>Thoradin cuts Faerin's nigger head off. Ghostly hounds begin eating her titties, dragging her back to subsaharan DEI Africa.
>Thoradin says: Champion, speak with me. Niggers and Elves, combined into one?
>Thoradin says: Did they bring with them sexual deviancy, castration of children, and acceptance of the disabled? Is it as the Prophet feared?
>Thoradin says: No... Then the end has truly come. By all that is holy and right, this will not be the Legacy of Arathor.
>Thoradin says: You will be the one to cleanse my bloodline.
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You guys think blizz is panicking at how rapidly retail players are dropping off this patch or are they feeling confident that forever will flip the industry?
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>>583398748
people are quitting at the usual pace based on hard data and no they know forever won't flip the industry but it will go strong for at least half a year blizzard locked people hard and that's not going to change
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>>583398748
No because second patch is almost always like this. Now go away back to wherever you came.
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>>583398748
I do hope they're freaking out because that would mean some changes.
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>>583398748
I knew classic had more reach than retail but I didn't think it had more players, figured they'd never prio classic over retail.
looks like they're pushing worldsoul turd out then shelving retail. else not sure why they wouldn't talk about it more at blizzcon.
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>>583398748
>You guys think blizz is panicking at how rapidly retail players are dropping off this patch
controlled demolition, think wtc building 7
they really need forever to do well on launch because of how overleveraged they are on development hours so they made a dogshit patch that would turn off everyone besides the most mazed to get you to play forever for a month or two
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It's funny how retail devs hate the light in WoW but they are actual avatars of the light in gme with their game design.

Classic WoW = the Void

Not because Classic is "evil," but because it represents absence, uncertainty, scarcity, and the unknown.

You don't know what's around the corner
You can get lost
You don't know whether a cave is safe
You may need other players
Information is scarce
Travel takes time
Death has consequences
Your class has real weaknesses
Gear is scarce and meaningful
The world doesn't constantly explain itself
There are empty spaces and downtime
You have to create your own objectives

The unknown itself is part of the gameplay.

Retail WoW = the Light

Again, metaphorically: everything is illuminated, categorized, revealed, optimized, and accessible.

Quest markers tell you where to go
Maps show you almost everything
Dungeon Finder finds your group
Teleports remove the journey
Databases reveal every item
WeakAuras reveal what to press
Boss timers reveal what's coming
Transmog lets you control your appearance
Collections catalog mounts/pets/toys
Achievements catalog accomplishments
DPS meters quantify performance
Multiple difficulties let you select your challenge
Catch-up systems make progression accessible
The game constantly tells you what to do next

Nothing is really allowed to remain unknown.

And that produces an interesting paradox:

Classic's darkness makes the world feel larger.
Retail's light makes the game feel smaller.

Because when everything is illuminated, there's less left to discover.

And the really interesting part

This maps surprisingly well onto the philosophical meanings of Light and Void.

Void:
"I don't know."

Light:
"I know."

Classic says:

"Go find out."

Retail says:

"Here's where to go."
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>>583399236
>but I didn't think it had more players
it doesn't
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its weird this thread is like 60% shitposters
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>>583399407
I feel like that description of the light fits the arcane more.
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>>583399236
Classic has been pulling millions of views on youtube for like the past 4 years. Payos PvP stv videos still get recommended to me with millions of views.
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>>583398258
did he change his style again? I'm looking through it and the usual traits are there but it looks different
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>>583379443
unironically forever/classic is much better introduction to wow than retail
especielly if you dont have some guiding you in retail
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>>583398068
Thank you so much for this write up it was extremely informative and helped me decide on the tanks that I would like to check out which will be paladin and monk.
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>>583377646
Love wowg anons!!!
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>m+ participation is down to 1/3 of last patch
>half the leaderboard are Chinese RMTers who are 10-15ilvls higher than most NA/EU players
>guilds are raidlogging or disbanding left and right
truly ion's greatest patch
>>583398748
Forever is like Remix, the biggest 'in case of emergency break glass' they can pull. It'll keep enough people subbed to the franchise that Microsoft doesn't holocaust them while they figure out how to make TLT not bomb and secure a way to keep the classic boomer crowd happy enough for the next couple of years
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>>583382907
At least therell finally be some xalsexo soonish
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>>583398258
Yeah I'm the 3D guy but I also make watercolour/old anime styled sloppas (you may remember some Sylvanas x Jaina posts from me). I swap between styles pretty easily and usually avoid the typical AI look that many models have.
https://d.uguu.se/VhwvreyJ.jpg
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>>583401063
>raid participation is 100% higher while m+ is the same as every s2*
youre confusing classic numbers decimating lil bro
>microsoft
Is glazing the fuck out of blizzard and actively not laying off any of them while shitting on the rest though
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>>583401706
Pretending ms is gutting blizzard became a meme here years ago anon even when blizzard dodged every massive layoff spree but don't worry there is another wave coming in a week or two, this time for real.
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gg my guild called off raid tomorrow
so im not killing mythic coiled altar this week
fucking shit i hate this nigger guild
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it's ok to not address things that need addressing if you have an addiction that makes the pain bearable
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>>583390553
My class can't and the classes that can don't interest me. Make more tanks.
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>patch basically just came out not that long ago
>feels like we're 6 months into an insane content drought
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>>583400269
I started using the v5 model instead but yeah I did change it

>>583401373
oh yeah? I'd like to see some watercolor stuff, it has a good aesthetic
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>>583402294
>patch basically just came out not that long ago
almost 9 weeks is not basically release
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>>583402294
worst part hasnt this been the case for the laast 3 seasons?
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>>583401856
idk why so vindictive boomers still orbit around
forever was announced, wow players are winning but they still are trying to validate themselves like 2 decades after they quit and surely in 2 more weeks those 2 decades of seething will play off
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is it even worth getting into wow? im so overwhelmed by all the versions. vanilla, TBC, mop classic, wow midnight, wow forever

like what do you even fucking play is any of it even good?? seriously is ANY of this stuff fun? how do you keep up with all of it
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>>583402578
for whatever reason im super investemtn into raiding so i just play this shit even tho 75% of the time its not fun
if you new just wait for forever/play classic
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>>583402578
I can only juggle two versions of the game max while raiding. MoP and TBC are dead, don't bother with them.
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>>583402578
Lucky for you this is the simplest and easiest time to get into WoW. There's really just Forever now, everything else is getting sunset.
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>>583402578
i only play retail, i have no intention of revisiting the past via classic. i just do mythic+, occasional story quests and world content and fuck off
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>>583402413
Now reverse these roles please.
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>>583402546
it's a shame the cia is not studying this people to be honest, there is no way they can't weaponize this
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>>583402578
There's just two versions now
modern which is very high fantasy, heroic, tryhardy, and the best moment to moment combat in all mmos with the best endgame.
And now wow forever which is a liiitle bit of the above but much more slow and rpg-like with flavour elements, low fantasy and slow progression.
Classic is how the game used to be in old versions, not really relevant just better to ignore that now.
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Wildstar mogged this game
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>>583403021
>ack!
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>>583403001
It's a good qrd
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>>583401063
lol yea saw some 338 ilvl rogue with like 3100 io in the very top team, dude literally RMTed more shit in a week on his fotm reroll alt than gear I can even get all season. makes you want to just log off honestly I can't even imagine what they were thinking
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>>583403472
But /vg/ told me netease was based because they banned someone or something...
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>>583396092
Why?
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>>583403575
Life would be so much better.
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>>583390203
shizonho...
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>>583403647
They are very much real, and they are the dumbest things on this planet. What do you mean?
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>>583403748
>They are very much real,
I wish this was the case. Human females are my favorite fantasy race of all.
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>>583402902
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>>583403848
Same, we really need another model refresh though, Human women only have like 5 good hair styles.
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>>583404005
yeah but they have like 40 faces
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>>583403948
Thank you, friend.
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we dead?
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>>583391802
if you die by suicide you go to hell
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>>583405730
/vg/ is dead
we're on page one
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>>583405730
/wowg/ is dead
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>make a big show of shitting on people that RMT without the token
>literal next season put the absolute, unquestionable best gear in the game for 80% of your slots on the last 2 bosses of mythic raid
yea definitely wasn't an obvious cash grab by blizzard, hope they enjoy these MAUs
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>try to do ulatek in story mode with an alt
>half of the npcs wipe
I though story mode was in for... story?
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>>583402750
>>583402752
>>583402793
>>583402875
>>583403001
okay thanks for the info. i will not redeem your game, saars.
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>>583406139
>t. didnt go out of the circle
>t. didnt pick up an egg
>t. stood in shit with the egg
>t. rushed the big egg before the small ones were picked up
>t. didnt interrupt
>t. didnt kill the eggs
>t. stood in the wrong spot with the circle
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>>583382907
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guess who didn't play for two weeks and forgot about Brewfest collectables
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hunter narman status?
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get married and reproduce
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>>583406856
fuck that shit anyway, holidays should be fun not feel like a second fucking job
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>>583406658
what part of
>story
>mode
did you not understand?
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>>583407269
>story mode means the encounter should be a regular mop with a funny model that takes 10 min to kill
go queue lfr
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>>583407376
Bait or Retard? Call it.
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>>583406856
there's nothing new but some decor and recolored kilts
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>>583407059
Yup, still gay.
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what combat potions are you guys using on bdk
i have too much crit to use reck so i'm using liquid luster
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>>583407983
I dont use combat potions
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>>583407134
with an elf? yes please that's all I want
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>>583408791
cozymaxxing
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>play vdh
>8000 conditionals to meet before entering spirit bomb
>made of paper
>still do shit dps
vs
>bear
>forget to moonfire while gathering
>mashing mangle/thrash will do it for you anyway
>invincible
>2nd in DPS
kek good one blizz
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>>583409116
>>8000 conditionals to meet before entering spirit bomb
please
the hardest part about vdh is abusing the bug where meta grants you 2 falling stars if you bomb then cleave
btw veng has been bugged for months and no one noticed. you need to repsec in a specific way to get full defensive value
no im not joking
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>>583409116
why the fuck do bears shoot lasers anyway retail is so fucking stupid
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>>583409318
>its only ok when fat chickens do it
kys niller
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>>583408919
I'm glad you're finally making girls with proper milkers. Do a goblin now.
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>>583409561
a high majority of what I gen have large to huge milkers though

what kinda gobbo do you want and in what setting?
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>>583409690
engineer with one with huge milkers a tank top and she is all greasy after a day of work
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>>583410726
*with a big smile on her face too
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>wowg neighborhood still hasn't chosen an endeavor
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>>583410726

>>583410797
already was finalizing it before seeing that post, but do you want a smile version too?
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>>583412412
NTA but SEX
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>>583412412
If it's not too much to ask, but thanks friend.
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>>583412412
Fuck that's it
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>>583412412
this reminds me of the gif where the goblin was dping herself with her inventions
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>>583412484

>>583412772
you can't just say that and not give a sauce
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>>583413193
Big gob racks are best with big gob smiles
Thanks friend.
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>>583413193
i lied, it's anal
https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=3581123&tags=goblin_female+animated+world_of_warcraft+
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>>583413351
that artstyle is grotesque
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Good morning /wowg/
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>>583413462
you're grotesque
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People who fantasize/wish they played WoW with a foid have got to be the most naive mother fuckers, perfectly encapsulates the saying ''You Think You Do, but You Don't''. But i can't blame you, you don't know them the way those who do, do.
And i really think you should find out the hard way how awful those dumb creatures are so i'm gonna tell you how to actually attract women on WoW

1. Lie about your salary on social conversations, say you make 140k$ a year or more (foids love leeching off of men to fund the lifestyle they can't live without)
2. You have to be a VERY good player, godlike at PvP/PvE (foids love getting carried)

Foids are hypergamous, that's how you actually attract them. Foids see men as assets so keep that in mind always, your personality you cherish so much means nothing to them.
Once you get your foid orbiter, have ''fun'' it'll totally be like your mommygf fantasies lil ''bro''
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>>583415167
fuck that, how do I attract an insane attention starved femboy to traumadump on me whenever I'm online? everyone else seems to attract tons of them without even trying
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>>583415167
I just fantasize about playing wow with some normal people
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>>583415167
I fantasize about playing with boys who play female characters that may or may not just be girly boys.
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>>583409294
what's the specs you need to take to have it?
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>>583415167
Immaculate posts as usual, vulpbro. You would unironically find a lot of success on xitter if you post these there
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>1 troonpera post hidden
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just simply having women in my raid groups across games made me not want to play wow let alone any mmo with women
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>since transmog restrictions are getting removed i have an incentive to farm pieces for armor classes that i've ignored for many years
fuck
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interesting that responses to the season being dead has been "well Season 2 is always much lower"
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>>583416028
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlZU7aqD4PA

tldr soulcrush (left capstone) needs to be dropped before the timer starts then taken right back (you have to press apply) or frailty only buffs you by 6% instead of 12
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>>583416330
Sorry friend, I'm going to need a very busty gob housewife instead.
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>>583416424
I think Mythic Plus is a broken game mode, why do we even have other keys when 98% of the people jump straight to 9 - 14?
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>>583402294
It feels like we're in a classic year-long expansion drought already
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>>583403472
I just wish the freebie power boost wasn't timegated. Like sure we get the second bonus roll this week but then we have to wait two more weeks to get the venomstone and the uncapped crests. It's been like 3 months just release all that shit already, I'm still never gonna be as powerful as someone coining mythic altar and ulatek 5 times or whatever. It's like every time they do this shit it's past the point where most people are done playing for the patch, idgi.
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>>583415503
You get those passively, you're not playing a soft-skin are you? Furry men like other furry men
>>583415738
What does normal mean here, exactly? as in 1 dimensional NPC without inner monologue/ability to conjure things in their head?
>>583416015
Are you playing on a Roleplay realm? that's 90% of furry female characters there, thankfully foids don't play furries they play elves.
>>583416092
No.
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>>583415104
good morning euro job holder or australian neet
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>>583416424
I saw someone defending S2 raid participation being 75% of S1 being normal, despite the fact that S1 had the lowest raid participation since Sepulcher.
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>>583416532
lol
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>>583416640
>>583416424

Alright so how many people even do Mythic Plus if we factor in people filling in their vaults/alt characters? like 200,000?
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>>583417365
>forced to do an internal review of where your expansion that nearly killed the game failed
>do almost all of the same mistakes again immediately with no improvement
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>Cornell 7
>Lindsay Clancy
>Zul'jan's mistreatment
Like with Anduin, foid writers have a deep resentment of any male with a strong & sensitive heart. You can tell zul'jan was based off of someone they really hate who called them out for something, the mistreatment of this character felt malicious. And of course he is girl bossed by the 'wiser' troll female and is made a fool in the end where as she's all perfect and can do no wrong.
Because that's all foids do, self-insert and like their fake allegations towards men of ''rape'' and vice versa they have 0 accountability. Honestly i've been thinking about making a Male Troll character but i'm not sure if Amani or Zandalari troll. Troll men deserve better.
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>>583417505
theres only two metrics you can look at
total population and runs per week
>like 200,000?
whats your definition of "do Mythic Plus"
people who did one key and fucked off? north of 600k characters on NA realms alone and its the third most populous region out of five
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>>583416632
I keep being surprised just how fucking good this newer model is at lighting and color vibrancy

the previous one was pretty peak if you look at the ambient lighting giving color to the wall
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>>583417743
>Void/Light setting is not accessible
>Antagonist wasn't developed (probably in the next patch)
>Well-known story heroes (all male) were diminished

>Systems didn't evolve with player expectations (just add another invasion every patch)
>Borrowed power was added but was so minimal it didn't matter
>Game has variety but a lot is just poorly implemented or broken

>gaps in content
>lack of transparency
>didn't feel heard
all things that they were happy to do for Forever and we haven't heard shit from them about Retail.
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>>583417743
>well-known story heroes were diminished

>Arator is now a 40 year old teenager that whines his way through all his problems and the universe bends to his whim
>Lor'themar is a useless loser who does nothing the entire expac except bitch about trolls later on
>Turalyon is a MUH LIGHTBLINDED useless loser
>Alleria is a literal retard who repeats the same mistake and has to learn the same lesson like 5 times over but is guaranteed invincibility due to Windrunner Plot Armor
>the other 95% of the cast are all identical clones of the same soulless construct that has no desire but "muh peace"
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>>583417817
>Vault is setup so that you do multiple M+ runs a week, per character
>Game is more alt friendly than ever before so more people will have alt characters
>Most people are doing 10s so they are clearly aren't there for cheeves

yeah bro, everyone is just doing 1 or 2 M+ runs a week
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>>583416424
they made a ton of changes and made the loot awful so theres no point to even fill your vault with dungeon slots
ofc it was going to perform worse to recent seasons
what point are you even trying to make?
>>
World of Warcraft: Different OST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lC7diQ6F904
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>>583418361
>season so bad we unmazed the rats
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>>583415167
The amount of posts you make whining about foids indicates to me that you never actually let them go and are still upset about something. Don't let them live rent free in your head man. Just accept what happened and stop obsessing over them. Move on. This is like 80% of your posts and we notice.

Not to demean you, but this the kinda shit incels say and we both know they would drop the facade instantly if they had a chance at sex with a woman.
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>>583418297
>>Vault is setup so that you do multiple M+ runs a week, per character
uhh you're unsubbed and shitposting right?
gotta be
no way you would make an assertion like this unless you were a literal 70iq mouthbreather
>>Game is more alt friendly than ever before so more people will have alt characters
it isn't anymore so than its been in the last six patches despite what blizzard told you, its actually worse this season comparatively

you're too stupid to gotcha post
run along pedro
>>583418538
if you were going to bribe people into the raid with broken loot and awful itemization outside of it you could logically conclude that would happen but i think most people just fucked off lol
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>>583380301
The tombstone should say
>"he trusted the plan"

>>583380524
We also need one where he's a half robot transhumanist from a cyberpunk future
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>>583418702
Prison homosexuality is most of 4chan at this point, you will get serious deja vu reading this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prison_sexuality#Male_prisoners
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>>583418913
>u r dumb

great response!
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>>583416424
Going to be interesting to see that chart once forever comes out.
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>>583419050
i didn't make an assertion in my original post, however you come along with a passive aggressive response and 4 month outdated information to say absolutely nothing.
yes, you are in fact a moron.
nice talking to you asshole.
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>>583417953
Thank you for this harvest, friend.
A good life is a happy gobwife.
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>>583415738
I fantasize about wow without furries
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>>583418961
past tense implies it's over
50.0 implies we're so back
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>>583419069
honestly I don't think it'll be too different. If you're Mplussing right now I don't think you're gonna quit for Forever, you're too deep in the sauce
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>>583418702
>you never actually let them go and are still upset about something
It's a long story but yes, i rather not get into it. I'm never dating those foul witches again. And it's not just me, but how they hurt my friends every time they always cause trouble, they're disruptors.
>Not to demean you, but this the kinda shit incels say and we both know they would drop the facade instantly if they had a chance at sex with a woman.
I'm very gay and i would especially not do this in a million years because women will decide 'it was weird' and call you a rapists to ruin you.
>>583418978
I've always been gay actually my first love was a male and my first crushes were male video game characters, if anything i was brainwashed into being straight.
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>>583419903
lot of people are just raidlogging right now, i played the full season last patch and my brain tells me i should be doing the same but i'm still playing because i don't want to play with the retards when the push actually matters
very few keys up at any given time of day, sad stuff
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>Mythic Plus is pointless
>Raiding is either hard or mind numbingly boring
>Delves are too easy
>Invasion Event #32

It's a rough time on Retail brotha
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>>583420518
I just minigame.
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i legit can't believe they're doing more invasion shit in the next patch, like holy shit.
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>>583421201
it's not that hard to believe
ever since DF expansions have become incredibly formulaic and samey, just recycling the same stuff over and over for padding
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>>583421201
You're not thrilled to do 10 minutes of repetitive busywork for 2 Champion crests?
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>>583420518
mythic raiding is a good challenge until you hit the last two bosses who are just completely unreasonable
my guild is like 100 wipes deep on Altar and we've seen the start of phase two like maybe 4 times
killed every other boss in a way more reasonable time besides sszorak who took a week's attempts
its like the difficulty curve just flies skyhigh suddenly with the remark of "only RWF past this point" until they inevitably nerf the fights into the ground some weeks after hall of fame closes
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>>583422094
this
just stop when you have 2-3 bosses remaining or join a guild that clears at the very end of a season after all buffs and nerfs
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>>583422079
I can stomach it if they got some unique cosmetics, like that one goblin island they added in TWW before the undermine patch
it had some cool items
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>>583422820
You're not getting Siren Isle. You're getting drudgery mini-events that lag the world server and probably won't work the first week.
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How are ye
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doing legion for the first time and
uh
wow...
wife?
does this game have an npc marriage system yet?
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>we STILL haven't killed Odyn yet
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>>583424475
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>>583424620
I TOO HEB PROOD MY WURT ODEEN

I AM GOD KING SKOBALD
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>>583424475
aw yeah, she horny for me
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I can't even remember, did Helya do anything in Shadowlands? I know she was there but like idk.
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>>583424620
Odyn did nothing wrong
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>>583426342
bit of a dick tho innit
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>>583426342
He did the instant they realized he was 'too kind' in Legion. Look at the state of basically any important character from Legion to now.
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>>583426046
She hung out in the Maw, the Mawsworn were technically under her command because of how she was also corrupting Odyn's Valkyries or whatever dumb fuck loose logic they had.
She initially gets thwarted by the Kyrian to save Uther after someone took over Devos's role. Then she just gets taken out altogether during the Korthia patch by the Necrolords.

Not even sure if she's still alive anymore, the Primus banished her, but fuck knows where. Apparently Helheim, but that's just confusing because she practically ran that place, why would you send her to where she'd likely want to go.



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