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>>583440340Tie me to an ICBM and fire me at the Megafloat. I will send all S*toans to hell with a smile.
>>583440567>hellDon't you mean Promised Land?
Sotoan Air Force has a concerning amount of mystery niggas in their ranks.
HERE AT JENKIN'S AIRSHOW BURGERS WE ONLY USE THE BEST MEATS AND ONLY HAVE THE GREATEST IPA BREWS
It's done hat anon, let me know if you need the vector file. Also make sure to post the hat when it's finished. Also thank you artbookbuddy for the higher qualiy scan
>>583440608they wish to go to the promised landthey deserve to go to hell>>583440662shouldnt you be killing rats
>>583440624It's all B-words
I hope PA nerfs LAAMs in multiplayer so that all filthy miggers and other LAAMspaaming fucks seethe after spending all their resources and time leveling gay meta shit.
>>583440321I'll give those a look too. AC:I but fixed would be fun. They never finished the campaign, did they? I think Butterfly always committed some Warcrimes™.I was about to break out the PS2 for another go through of AC5 but now I think I've got a lot of options on my plate.
>>583440860>mig31 would still have qaams to work with anywayebin
>>583440624Reminds me of Zero assault records when they just didn't write a bio.
I don't know how air forces assign pilots to aircraft, but whoever gave Rex a chopper instead of an F-4 fucked the entire war for the FCU
>>583440662As someone who can't grow facial hair, I am jealous of this guy's stashe
>>583440860Honestly people like you are useful, at least now I know which characters I need to prioritize so I don't get shit on by teammates
>>583440860git gud
>>583440961how old are you? just use minox
>>583440915between the QAAM, the MGP, that absurd HIGH G TURN rate,and its performance in 7 im convinced someone from project aces works at mikoyan
>>583440984imo hes being upset at the wrong thingits more that alot of other options are genuinely shit
>>58344104036 and I don't really wanna do fenasteride or minoxadyl for a beard, I heard you have to keep using them or they revert.Maybe hair loss, but my head is doing fine.
DLC where you play as the inspiration behind the lux lunae during the sotoa-yuke war when
What were they even doing?
>>583441497their best
>>583441464dude, save something that big for the future title
>>583441580That's fair. I'm still gonna be a salty bitch though. I'd like to finally win one.
>>583440860I don't mind how LAAMs are now, but I hate that SAAMs are worthless
>>583441497why are you losing to an ACXbabby?
>>583441497The nugget mind simply cannot comprehend the power of the Estovakian soul.
>New update>Cuts coop down to 4 players>You now pick difficulty 1, 2 or 3>3 is nearly impossible to do because there are so many enemies and only the best planes with the best pilots could possibly finish it I fixed it
>>583441764guidance 2 and projectile speed 2 parts make them pretty solid, at least against npc enemies
>>583440860Just stop targeting what other people are targeting and pay attention to your radar
>>583441464I really wanna know more about the Sotoan-Yuktobanian war. Yuktobania was in a war with Osea in 2010.AC8 takes place in 2030, and Tasha said Yukes BTFO'd them ~20 years ago.Did Sotoans thought they could pull a fast one by attacking on the opposite side?
>F-15E is actually a joy to use and has two of the best weapons available for anti-ground by level 10>Wasted all my money on the A-10Fuck I am dumb
>>583441908it's one year before Circum Pacific, so Sotoa just got belted to ass properly, you should respect the Yukes for having the resources to stand up to Osea merely a year after a war.
>>583441497having not played 6, it took me until 15 seconds before timeout to realize the game was asking me to do a tunnel run down the barrel as opposed to hitting the marked, glowing portion from outside at a limited angle
>>583441908>>583442295It's completely absent from the timeline in the new Aces at War, so maybe they plan to tell that story some other time.
>>583440662I thought this guy was voiced by Nolan North. He sounds just like him.
Should i choose fullback or strike eagle in online, relatively
>emergency sortie>no one is joiningOk guys I didn't wanna fight the arsenal bird anyways....
>>583441908Considering how vague they are with it (not even saying who won) i'm expecting it will be either DLC or a zero style prequel game
>>583442409Sotoans got BTFO'd so bad it wasn't worth mentioning.Imagine such a generational trauma that the moment you've finished militarizing and getting WMDs, you pick a target all the way across the globe instead of Yuktobania which was next door
>>583442442Strike Eagle easily
>>583442596>BOOOOO says yuktobania>AIEEE DON'T HURT ME I'LL GO INVADE ERUSEA MASSA
>>583442602I got myself an F-2 to have an attacker on hand until i get the F-15E
>>583442592 Sotoans had to move their capitol to international waters. Which implies a good helping of Simfaxi-class submarine shelling happened.Easy to say Yukes won
>>583442596Yuktobania probably has multiple Alicorn tier submarines if AC5 is anything to go by, which are almost certainly invulnerable to the Tonitrus Spear.
>>583442775No? they literally say they moved the capital because of the loss of the grasslands due to desertification caused by rapid industrialization
>>583442596>>583442779>It isn't that yuktobania didn't see the tonitrus spear>They just went "not my problem" because they have infinite alicornsFucking yukes
What parts do i need to make standard missiles not useless in mp?
>>583442232>Fuck I am dumb for playing AC:Oftfy
>>583442929Better tracking and faster speed, 10k each from the store
>>583442871My bad.I'll have to rewatch Osean CNN later. I just remember that they moved it after the war w/ the Yukes. I don't remember
>>583442957Pretty much its gotten very boring and uninteresting already. The same missions over and over, no skill expression, no risk or challenge ever.
Opinions on HCAA for assault?
SAAM are pretty silly now that you can shoot them and then illuminate people after so they close in at wacky angles
>>583442596Consdering the lack of border changes it's unlikely either side really 'won' but the yukes not being able to meaningfully subjugate such a small country is probably proof that typical ace combat shit happened down there.
>>583443020>The same missions over and over, no skill expression, no risk or challenge ever.the fact that those all equally are issues is 100% the big crime herethis has been an exceptionally busy couple of months in terms of high profile releases too
>>583442875Yuktobania has never shown any interest in Usea at all, for them it's probably a win if the sheepfuckers fuck off so Erusea has to deal with them.
>>583443130god help them if you get ESM support
Is Megafloat an impossible structure or is it at least theoretically possible like the space elevator?
>>583443114It'll work, but just keep in mind everyone else is also taking shots at air targets. Except dedicated attackers I guess.
>>583441764SAAMs should've been the sniper missile and have absurd ranges of like 10k+
>>583443328in theory every plane performing constant high G turns is impossible as they would probably rip themselves apart within minutes of "Player Character type maneuvers"The Berkut especially is a classic example of "this thing CAN maneuver crazy in theory but those wings would rip themslves off in no time"tl;dranything is possible if you can invent the materials for it
>When THAT part in the Fatsia track kicks inhttps://youtu.be/8vyw5_N7amk?si=kJTKFp-2O-1HQGPT&t=268
>>583443328>>583443571I think Anon means like an actual idea, like Dyson spheres, or an Oneill cylinder.Which I guess it is? We have Venice and a megafloat is just a more advanced version of that
>alpha 3 DAMN IT COME ON GUYS
>>583443752honestly at the current rate of tech if you felt the need to weaponize and internalize the sustainability id say the answer is "no" since imo 3D printers arent at the level of printing out shit that can perform heavy duty industrial and military tasks that dont involve "immediately blowing themselves up on things"
https://x.com/PROJECT_ACES/status/2106670668305805635
>>583443328Look up seasteading on image searchThere's a bunch of people who want to try it
>>583444106>improve your overall team performance>by making it so when one person goes down you're now down 2+ people>in a 4 man squadwut
I'm trying ACX for the first time and holy shit it's hard to adjust after days of playing AC8
>>583443742
>>583443969There are actually 3D printers that can spit out FAA certified parts nowadays, but they take hours to do so, not minutes.
>tonitrus spears?>land battleships?
>>583444228>There are actually 3D printers that can spit out FAA certified parts nowadaysyeah but full on military grade complete weapons and vehicles?The military needs durability, not cutting edgethe only thing that has ever needed to be cutting edge/ultra efficient was logisticsAlso in theory>making something>shipping itespecially when they have>podargesmakes fatsia a bit redundant if you ask me
>is fatsia viableStrangereal has Belkan technowizards, which we don't. If we had Belkan technowizards, we'd have already built the space elevator.
Just once, I want to be the faction that has all the superweapons. Playing as Sotoa as they conquered Usea would've been amazing.
Why does totally-not-Belkan man sit there in the studio accepting his fate of getting glassed by the Spear he knows is inbound?
>>583444360It's not like the drones the land battleships make are that advanced. There's companies that make these things with styrofoam.
>>583444482>make a narative about being a dick ass grunt who gets to get shot down many times over the course of a war by the Ace combat protagonist>complete with a "we're with you razgriz moment" at the climaxthat might be cool
>>583444482I just want a mission where we have an Aigaion and can land in it to repair and resupply.
>>583444482I was really expecting us to hijack the satellite at some point, seeing Fatsia take a direct spear hit would've been badass
>who are we? C'mon USEA, c'mon OSEA, it's your buddies General Resource Limited haha, we'd never hurt a fly!>Operation Sighthound? Operation Domino? Mimic Squadron? What are those?>Let us acquire Enso Order, it'll be fine!
https://x.com/nyankou/status/2106605513479995426
>>583442602Why? I feel like UGBL is generally better than SFFS, especially in lvl 2 missions.
Get a life nigga
>>583444482Would be pretty badass if we play as Erusia, have a 1000 vs 4 last stand and suddenly the radio goes<< Attention Erusian squadron throwing away your lives so carelessly, this is Admiral Torres, I advise you guys descend to 500m>>And have the Alicorn rise up
>>583444482it'd be neat to see a reverse-AC story in a DLC or something>start out as big dicks in superplanes steamrolling a half-beaten army>progress slows because units keep getting diverted to deal with some asshole enemy ace that keeps soloing all your logistics and backline troops>finally square off with him, he rips through all your wingmen and fucks off, war tempo irreversably on the other foot now>final showdown with him over your own capital, war already lost, game ends with you trading off with him in a joust AC0 style
>>583444962He did, he's at the end already
>>583444768Rex was later beaten to death by Jenkins and the rest of the Endurance's maintenance crew for absolutelt hande grenading that Felon's landing gear
Buddies, I heard there was an AC6 recomp out, is it good? Never played a recomp, how's the setup compared to an emulator
>>583445227Paste an iso and run the executable.It's buggy and had graphical glitches. You're better off just pirating it
>>583444984Yeah, i'd like to receive support of a superweapon for once, the Stonehnge was great in AC7.
I need more Belkan shitposts please.>>583445227It's basically half recomp and half emulation. Still needs work no doubt. https://github.com/sal063/AC6_recomp
>>583445367It's worse than xenia? >Pirate itI don't have an Xbox
>>583445457well technically arkbird shot that sub that one time in 5
>>583445530The emulation half of the decomp is based on Xenia, so whatever issues that has will likely be present.>>583445514Back to flight school, nugget.
>>583445514>LANDING SUCCESSFUL<<thats a matter of perspective>>
>>583445540Yeah but the Arkbird is gay.
>>583445530No, Xenia is just not playable due to the FPS hard lock.I say wait for the recomp to mature then.If not give it a try, it's easy enough to setup unless you're running something niche that Cmake breaks down
>>583440624Was just about to post about this guy. Who in the hell was that? I also saw the ejection, I like how it's consistent with the fact that he was not killed (assuming he's not a spooky ghost).
Ah so that's why the art book still isn't out
We can never be on the superweapon spam side because superweapon spam is an entirely retarded idea and the only ones who get it are the Belkans, the Oseans and the Emmerians.
>>583444482I want to play a campaign where you escort the Land Battleships over the ocean, sinking multiple fleet squadrons in a single map and take out submarines by dropping depth charges as you try to keep the damage to the battleship from going too high. I want to be the elite squadron called into save the supermassive transport planes from an enemy ace. I want to drop nukes on Belkan cities just because we can.
>>583445883I believe in Total. Belkan Redemption
>>583445883>inb4 but Belka was superweapon spam: the countryYeah but they managed to pivot to drones and new aircraft eventually.
>>583445883We don't need to have the superweapon span, just a single one will do, like make the player be the crew of an XB-0 or some shit, maybe a Torres but without the murder boner helping us clear the skies with his big dick railgun, hell even in this very own game imagine if the FCU forces in mission 28 supported us with the captured land battleship instead of some random mercs.
>>583445959>I want to drop nukes on Belkan cities just because we canwhy would you waste your own nukes on belkan cities, its the belkans
>>583445883Yet superweapon spam always works until the player finally gets into the cockpit.
>>583443742S O R E D O M O
>>583445883Oseans also have superweapons though.Yukes were just smart enough to prioritize hijacking them before it can be used against them. Best case you get another weapon. Worst case, the enemy shot their own super weapon
WW2 era Ace Combat but the Belkans are actually the good guys fighting off an expansionist Osea, but the aftermath of that war directly plants the seeds for the Belkan War many years later. Sometimes winning a war is the the worst thing that can happen to a country.Or just go full retard and make a fantasy RPG with dragons where it's revealed halfway through (You) were playing as a Belkan knight the whole time. I would unironically play that.
>>583446081The arsenal birds were neutral defensive equipment more than wunderwaffen
>>583446081>>583446165I am a massive faggot, I somehow read "Yukes" as Eruseans. You're right
>>583445883The Emmerians put their superweapon budget into explosives technology.
>>583446165Do you think the Arsenal birbs could have stopped the land battleship from reaching the ISEV?
>>583445091>you get a superplane in the final mission with drones, lasers, railguns, the whole works>enemy ace just shows up in a stock F-15 with UGBs>it's not even a ground attack mission>he drops the UGBs on you in mid air with extreme accuracy>flies through conveniently placed tunnels to break lock every time you launch drones>you and your allies are screeching on the comms>enemy ace replies with <<< ... >>>
>there are FIVE jackets in the paid passWhere's the fuckin variety?
Having just 200 rounds for your gun at lvl 1 is preposterous
>>583446309If not stopped it entirely definitely slow it down enough to allow for a mustered counterattack.
>>583446345in the matchmade queues progression and choicesoh wait
>>583446309About 50-50. The UAVs alone would've outfought the land battleship's UAVs, but the airburst cannons would've taken out a lot of the Arsenal Bird's complement, and the railguns are basically Stonehenge guns that would probably have forced the AB to stay outside of range. If you were playing as the defender, there'd be a hard time limit where the UAVs would be available to distract the battleship, then they would've had to retreat to recharge and left you to finish the job. Alternatively, you'd have to disable the AB's engines so that the Land Battleship could catch up and punch through it with its main guns.
>>583446309The one with the big fuckoff laser would've given it trouble, especially with a constant power feed from the Lighthouse. The land battleship's railguns aren't Stonehenge-tier.
Give the FCU a Gleipnir, how would the Sotoans fare?
>>583446474They're not even close to the power of the Stonehenge railguns.
>>583446309NTA, but it depends on whether the APS can resist the railguns long enough for it to approach the battleship. Once it's in laser range, it's over.Given that it took Stonehenge to punch through one, my money's on the Arsenal Bird.
>>583446542leasath would've been out of poverty by now if they sell Gleipnir the FCU, hell anyone would want that.
>>583446542>stealth it until it's over fatsia>shockwave the shit out of itwar's over
>>583446694Eh, the railguns might be shit against fighters but they'll fuck up the Gleipnir pretty fast.
>>583446550Stonehenge is powerful because of range and mass. the main guns, fired together as a sextuplet, and at close enough range, would easily penetrate the shield. That's the only thing that makes the Arsenal Bird require something like Stonehenge to beat it.
>>583446542The Rainband would be the DMZ of the War. Sotoa can't cross it and FCU will likely lose the Gleipnir if they tried to (Tonitrus can be guided)
>>583446694>stealth itIsn't the entire thing about the rainband that nothing can go in undetected? FCU had to find the blimps firsts
WHERE IS THE DE-DENUVOED CRACK
>>583446839invisibility = invincibility
>>583446754Railgun doesn't need to fire at the birb first, just the ISEV. Once down the birb shield is gone
>>583446754>Use the DRONE WALL to permablind the targeting on the land battleship until you can laser it down>alternatively conduct a combined defense where Arsenal Bird and bomber squadrons create a catch 22 for the battleshipStill having the birdos up there would've made defense much much easier.
>>583446754We don't really know the shield tolerances, the only reference we have is that it can stop conventional weapons and gets punched by the strongest railgun that has ever been built, because the Stonehenge for some reason is exponentially stronger than every other railgun in the series.
What did they mean by this?
>>583446309Someone has to mod arsenal bird as an ally to fight against balios
>>583446962That's because it was Stonehenge Railgun 7, the only one to survived Mobius One.So it has the <<Last One Standing>> buff and <<Survivor of the Grim Reaper>> status on top of its original strength
>>583446962There was a full saturation of at least 100+ battleships and jets and the shield held. So that shield can tank a lot of force
>>583447050But it was the railgun 4
>>583446992>retards saw something online and felt like preachingeh
>>583446474i would say it also depends on if the arsenal bird operators know about the treads being a weak point. since it is possible to fly in between the treads and the armor skirts, the uavs could fly low and fast and fuck its mobility directly
>>583447149I'm definitely going to make a mod that makes the land battleships do more damage against the player once modding gets figured out
>>583447125Even more buff then.4 (四) is Death (死). So it's Last One + Survivor + Death Gun buffstack.
>>583447314Don't forget the <<Stick with Trigger>> passive area buff.
An anon in the /V/ thread mentioned that a single Stonehenge could have dealt with the tonitrus, and it's true, why didn't the FCU just fix a Stonehenge gun and called it a day?
so they just left Battleship 1 in Theve there all alone? Why not dispose of it or hell, repurpose it? They know that thing is nuclear powered and still leave it alone without any supervision?
Aw yeah.Didn't realize last thread was dead.
>>583447314>>583447337>>583447125>>583447050you people dont stand against my trump card>jaeger talks about doing something worth recounting to his son about
>>583447395And now you understand why that land battleship was spotted at Stonehenge
>>583447395The land battleship that parked itself in stonehenge probably made sure they would not be able to do that
>>583447314Bro you're forgetting that it was also its last shot ever, so it had the last flash of great power buff too.
>>583447395somehow all the nations inexplicably thought"we'll never need this piece of junk any more"
>>583447491we destroyed that already
>>583447603They wanted to be REALLY sure
>>583447421They were clearing the personnel inside and probably waited for strangereal's IAEA to safely shut down the reactor.
>>583447603Destroyed is a big word, most of the cannon is still there, they don't even need the big ass targeting supercomputer anymore because they're 30 years in the future and a laptop can do the exact same thing.
>>583440340>Get to mission 20>See it's a bad strategy right?>No>Finally being allowed to go on your own without anyone getting in your way.COME TO DADDY YOU SONS OF BITCHES. IT'S TIME FOR THE BELTING OF YOUR LIVES!
How the FUCK do I get the ace in mission 17 to spawn? Rerun this shit half a dozen times, wiped the map before battleship, and everything at the battleship, before the bombers even get a 1/3rd of the way and all the while ensuring queen gets no kills, wtf
>>583447663>boarding party has to go room to room in a flipped, battle damaged battleship with god knows what hazards>not to mention all the religious fanatics who would rather die than surrenderI do not envy AC world's ground troops
>>583447776for the Sotoans i love how the situation escalates>inter-squad bickering about being bait for the double digits to pad their score>lone plane comes to be a lamb to the slaughter>blink and suddenly all the "bait" tomcats are dead>the last 3 raptors bicker about how they've let the situation get out of hand>gradually but surely the last 2 raptors talk about just getting back alive>the last raptor has nothing to offer you but anger
>>583447828It's fun though>maybe your younger brother will ends up becoming one of the great aces of Sand Island>maybe you can have a beauty as your superior>maybe your commander will decide to desert and plan a heist using a tank,>maybe you will need to use your hand grenades, Altman!
CALL ME UP I'VEGOT TO FEEL ALIVE CALL ME UP HIGHSET ME FREE TO FLY
>>583447806it doesnt matter hwo gets killes, you need to just do everything as fast as possible and get through the missionKeep checking at every phase, because the fighter plane doesnt immediately show up in the next phasebasically just check the map everytime you clear a phase and if it never shows up you need to be better
>>583447828>Finish landing>Get a Tonitrus Spear in the faceI felt bad for the dudes taking the power plant bros.
cobbled this pic together so I can check spw before buying something in online mode
>>583448275Cool.
>MQ-99s still in use by both sidesBelkabros we win again
>>583448037The F22s were the hardest fight in the game for me, motherfuckers dodged like crazy, i didn't have and top tier plane while fighting them so i was chasing them for like 8 minutes, it was the peak of the game for me, also the OST was an instrumental of Everflow and it made the chase even more kino, game didn't get better than that let me tell you, i'll remember the nigga Shadow 98.
>>583448275Why the hell is the Su-34 the only one with UGB-Ls? I didn't even know those things were in the game!
>>583447828boy i cant wait to be flambe'd for mobius one
>>583448396I feel like UGBL are broken (in a bad way). They fail to oneshot targets regular UGBs handle just fine.
>>583448378I like how they're used as target drones for the training mode.
>>583448275You are a gentleman and a scholar
>>583448392it doesnt help that if you're a little too persistent he doesnt mind fighting you in the cloudsi sort of learned to chase him, but fly away to bait him out of the clouds
>>583448378Are they still manufacturing them? or are they just surplus that Erusea left behind or gave up?
>>583448551They're too useful to give up making, but I'm pretty sure they're not as tricky opponents as the Z.O.E. models.
>>583448396>>583448470youll use the UGBLs as a UAV sweeping tool and youll fucking like it
>>583448551Usea uses them, Sotoa uses them, highly likely they're still in active manufacture. Hell Enso could've been making them.
>>583448275you forgot Game and Nightmare
>>583448661The Z.O.Es aren't cannon fodder like the MQs though, they are not used for the same thing, the MQs work just fine.
>>583448392I liked that the f22 was a slippery motherfucker because I get to listen to him seethe on the radio just a bit longer. What now you stupid fuck? Where did all that bravado go? Fuck you die, get shadow 22 next time faggot.
>Drones give me an exciting chase around and up the space elevator the first time around>Replay to get ace>Drones all die before they can even hit the one kilometre mark because they just blew each other up with one SASMOkay...
>>583448720at the rate people are bitching you'll need to grind till haloween just to unlock them
Honestly never thought I'd miss those little assholes.
>>583448470never had any trouble with them, the only thing that survives are point objectives like siege tanks, bunkers and shit like that which takes a couple missiles ontop.The radius is too good
>>583448913>Third to last rank online >Have to do 50 games to unlock the next tier Its about 10 minutes per game from lobby to lobby, that's 8.3 hours even if I AFK, that's at minimum 24 hours to unlock the final tiers of jets. That's fucking mental given there is ZERO improvement in gameplay in those 24 hours. You've seen literally all of the game in 1 hour.
>>583448970what i dont get is>takes 2 missiles to pop a battleship's airburst guns>takes 4 missiles to pop a land aegis>takes 2 UGBLs to pop an airburst gun>1 UGBL one shot's a land aegis
Those Ladons weren't Belkan tech. No, that was some ACX bullshit.
>>583449192Just use SFFS. Its one tightly packed drop to nuke an entire ship.
Besides buying them, where does one get Plane specific blueprints again?
>>583449142>Its about 10 minutes per game from lobby to lobby, that's 8.3 hours even if I AFK, that's at minimum 24 hours to unlock the final tiers of jetssee i can put up with 24 hours of difficult shit if its funyou cant even convince me to AFK something for 10 minutes because then what even is it for? so I can play a shit game and show off how much of a no lifer I am for a fucking boring ass game mode? it would literally be a humiliation ritualI would proverbially be cooking my own crew instead of abandoning shipand im just not a s*toan
>>583449192Pretty sure naval shit is calulated differently, lockons a2g is the only think that kills them fast, not sure if planting the UGB directly on it rather then in the water around makes a diff
>>583449256Boss/Scramble gives 10 random ones. You can do it 5 times in a week.
>>583449289>see i can put up with 24 hours of difficult shit if its funI don't understand how they can understand that people like AC to be challenging then make an online where the PvE has 0 challenge.
>>583449215does AC-X involve adapting cold war tech with fucking laser guns?>>583449304when i say a battleship i mean a land battleshipi was bombing land ships
>>583449215maneuvers aside, I'm more annoyed at the billions target that fucks up your targeting system, picking targets when you have to manage your speed is so fucking annoying
What am I buying/levelling next buddies?>>583449307Hmm, alright then.
>Replaying Zero with the portMan this is awesome>GlatisantFun time is over
>>583449352and then implement time constraints and a poorly thought out coop mechanic that just makes you (or at least the anons in here) hate everyone elsethats just not goodthats just league of legends
We would have gotten S if two fuckers hadn't brought fighters and been worthless.It doesn't really make a difference but I'm still mad.
>>583449445>MPBM one part>MPBM the other>mission accomplishedWow, so hard
>>583449441Save everything until you unlock the EA-18G, F-15E and Typhoon and then pick whichever one you want to max to 20 because the grind after this point is insane. >>583449498It does matter tho you missed out on an XP booster from S rank.
>>583449215Sir that's JA
>>583449556I'm mostly interested in the gold blueprints and we still got three of those.Off I go to hope for another raid so I can hit today's cap for them.
>>583449609>Oh my g- he just stopped in mid air!
>>583449609Still an X (2).
Does the F15E rocket splash work on the alicorn?the hit reg on the core is pretty inconsistent
>>583449530Speaking of MPBM, was this the first time it has that blue burst before explosion? Zero is just plain white and I think Infinity is orange-red
Camera type A sucks shit
>>583449973Yeah, it's more like LSWM here but that one is blue all over instead of turning back into orange
If I could have 4, 5 and 0 with 8's graphics I would never need new videogames againHoly shit why can't this happen
>>583450005You don't want to have realistic flight nausea?
>>583449973I'm guessing that they're making it more visibly related to those Helios missiles that show up in AC7.
>>583450046I don't want to upgrade my rig yet, playing at the lowest setting at the moment, unless you optimize the fuck out of them I can't play
So why does the Fishbed give the Band Member title? Wasn't Glamrock all F-4s?
>>583448392Yeah, 22 sucked ass in comparison. Doesn't help he's a parachute popping shitheel.
>>583450273>I WANT TO DOGFIGHT WINGS NOW NOW NOW NOW!!!!!Area? More like crybaby.
this shit is so retarded
>>583450471>Is now basically immortal with impossible curvesProblem?
>>583450161Soviets nicknamed it Balalaika (after the instrument) because of the shape
>>583450560get TLSd idiot
>>583450273Wait what? Did 22 parachute instead of dying in his plane to go to mongolian heaven?
>>583450579Ah, nice. I did not know.
>>583450703He popped the parachute of a queen flight member.
>>583450768Ah i understand, oh well i got my payback with the nuggets.
I'm just gonna come out and say it, we need some Yak representation in these games. Actual or experimental design drawings.
Why can't I use Lux Lunae skins in multiplayer?
Dealer AWACS rating? I found him charming
>>583450961I'll go a step further and say we need more trainer/light attack jets. The Hawk is a lot of fun in 5.
BASED d.d. dropping TRUTH NUKES on cope & theve-ing SOTOIDS
>Hey Joker flight wanna switch routes with us real quick? We need the fuel.>Oh god it's gonna be an ambu- Yup it's the fucking shadowsBitchass motherfucker Shadow22. You tried to shoot down my boy Baxter then you run away from me when you got shot at a little. Get back here you coward!
>>583450970Better than Dunderhead and the Zero guy. About on par with Long Caster for me. I like Ghost Eye and Bandog the best.
Do you think we gonna sink this alicorn?
>>583451278Man I loved how much of a dick Bandog was.
>>583450970I liked him after mission 20, where his brilliant plan was sending (You) alone against 8 shadows.
>yfw Ooooo-ooooo-OOOOO-ooooo waaaooow eeyyy waaoooww comes on the radio
Coopyyy! :D
>>583451292you should, morgan do pretty well damage wise on it
>mfw the Sotoans hijack my clanker tanker and force me to bail out over occupied territoryOh it's gonna be like this is it?
>>583451663Ah yes (((Sotoans)))
>>583451752Oh so it's even worse than I think. This is a hell of a way to start the arc of the campaign that's all about information warfare.
>You can unlock the entire aircraft tree without being anywhere near 16 million mrp>There's an achievement for 25 million mrpHow many Fatsias were they expecting us to blow up
>>583451627the morgans were last 3 with sub 9k points
>>583451905You should naturally get it on your no damage run, machineguns only run, and the Ace run
>>583451905why did they call her fat?
>>583451978In Sotoan it's actually Phatsia
So what will AC9 be about?
>>583451931Where do you find those kind of specimens.I think i failed a few sorties in the first days of release when people had low level shit but never nice
>>583452093Well, about half of the people uses novice controllers
>>583452040Yuke vs Sotoa, more Eastern Osea + Wellow stuff, Usean shenanigans again (please just stop, it's not funny anymore, it's boring)
>>583450970mgs3 soundin ass (positively)
>>583452040Revolutionaries
>>583452040More electrosphere cockteasing because they don't want to commit to COFFIN aircraft>>583452217Usea is like the only interesting part of the setting, name swapped europe and america/russia are boring as sin.
>Piffs basketball at sensitive aircraft panelling >Immediately shoves it into the hands of the nearest black guy and blames him for it>Jenkins believes herTasha, you asshole.
>>583452396Tasha's playing Race Combat
>>583450970It's diplomat with a gambling addiction. Love the guy.
>>583452337Dude, they don't even use Usea countries other than Erusea properly, they're just random landmarks for missions and you're usually just a random Usean from whatever country they pulled out from or someone from far away like an Osean. I'd rather play as a soldier of a country and fighting to protect it.
>>583450970He yapped about cards so hard it distracted me right into the ocean. Nice voice and performance though so he gets a 7/10.
>>583450970Haven't finished the campaign yet but he rattles off shit about game theory during an active combat operation, he's high tier for that alone.
Dealer saying Checkmate! made me think about Zapp BranniganYou're a poker guy, stick in your lane, buddy
I liked everything about the story until the finale, doing the shitty 'everyone holds hands and sings kumbaya' shit two times in a row is lame
It's the 10th mission i do without a sortie spawn
Shadow Squadron is probably the elite enemy squad that I actively want to obliterate even compared to the Yellows from 4. They talk a lot of shit and act smug in the comms. "Hurr durr these guys will run away hehe let's fuck em up" Die bitch eat this Fox 2.
>>583452957It made sense though, every guy that comes and joins us to sing kumbaya was never really on the Sotoan side. The Shilageans have a motive because you prevented the death of hippie princess, the Flying Moles we've been trying to coerce since we got to Fort Grey, Savians fight for the biggest paycheck in the room, all the other assist units were FCU or former separatist. Sotoans are still treated as fucking insane even if Enso played them.
>>583453148That said I can't hate them, their presentation is immaculate
Hell yeah first chandelier downi carried with su-34
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq_lUu1PWwAGaffed Card was good when they first used it to introduce the Shadows in the walkthrough trailer and it's still probably my favourite Shadows track after release.Though I appreciate Frostwave basically being an Animals as Leaders track in Ace Combat.
ATTENTIONFUCK ALL MIG31 USERS OR MIGGERS AS I LIKE TO CALL THEMFUCK MIGGERSTHAT IS ALL
Is it me, my f14, or did the first Land battleship raid suck ass? It was the epitome of JOKER 1 DO EVERYTHING!
mission 23Gemma 1: << The technology will compensate our lack of experience! >>*shoot down Gemma plane*<< Where is the ejection handle!? >>*shoot down another Gemma plane*<< Tell my mom and dad that love the- >>*after shooting down all Gemma planes*Gemma 1: << ... It's all my fault... >>
>>583453663I knew it was going to be a total shitshow, so I left them alone.
>>583453663>shoot everything down>squad leader commits suicide after bailing outhehehehe
>>583453872i beelined for them instantly, and that was before i knew about the ace
>>583453663>Decide to leave them alone this time>My squad members start murdering them if we get anywhere near themI may have trained them all too well
>>583453663Sorry meant to post this, fuck them kids.
>>583444984I hope in Ace Combat 9 we play as a pilot based on the Alicorn II, supported by the AI ghost of Torres, who turns out got brain scanned like Mihaly in 7.
Yellow 13 ghost when?
>>583453996HELLO ERUSEAN ACE, IT IS ME, TORRES II AI SYSTEM OF THE ALICORN II, I HAVE BEEN UPLOADED VIA THE ELECTROSPHERE™ PROTOCOL
>>583453996>Electrosphere 2's villain is just some guy who decided to make simulated versions of all the other AC villains based on their combat data and brain scansWe're getting thereMaybe that can be the plot of Online 2, we're all just combat data ruining the world
>>583453872It doesn't even matter, the blue generic FCU grunts can kill them too, that's why shit they are. I got like 5 new model down reports from them.
>>583454165MY SOUL FOR GENERAL RESOURCE LIMITED'S STOCK TICKER, MAY NEUCOM ALWAYS BE IN THE RED
>>583454196*how shit they are
>>583454058NOW LAND THIS PLANE ON THAT SUBMERSIBLE CARRIER AND ASSUME COMMAND.
>AIs trained on Strangereal's equivalent of War Thunder
Are abilities tied to each plane or a global unlock? Like, if the next bp plane gets "Delete all niggers" as an ability ,can I use it on my phantom?
>>583454308>They start leaking classified information
I was a bit surprised that after they established the land battleships have engines, that we didn't encounter a more advanced one that just starts lifting off once we engage it. Maybe in a DLC.
>Behold, my latest creation, the Mihaly Matias Larry Abyssal Ilya Shilage Torres Flake Toprak Shilage Dision Pasternak AI piloting the X-999 Fighter Attacker EW Submersible STOVL VTOL Laser Equipped Seaplane
Somehow haven't gotten this achievement yet despite always remembering to give orders.In Mission 14 I gave a Disperse order and Baxter cleared half the map by himself.
>Be Sotoa>Have incredible technology>Instead of solving their problem with said technology they decide to cause problems for everyone else instead????
>>583454682>Mission 14UhAnon
>no Aigaion>no Excalibur>no SOLG>no Land Battleship >no Arkbird >no Stonehenge Project Aces wtf????
>>583454709They spent all their money creating a giant mega float and superweapons from designs they (assumedly) bought off Enso and the Yukes, they were terrified of Big Yuktobanian Combatants so they went after the weakest possible target that would still be a juicy get in part due to their "culture."
How do I use campaign ace skins in mp? i've see other people using them, but they appear locked for me
>>583454682Maybe trying keeping them in 'cover' whenever appropriate. I bet that's probably the last one that hasn't resulted in a kill for you.
>>583454709Anon this is Strangereal, they've made enough plane parts of the years they could've made a dyson spherePriorities
>>583454905>Menu>News>REDEEEEEM tab
>>583454823That service pistol was putting in some serious work apparently
>>583454997>Intruder has an ammo counter>It actually starts going down whenever we approach anythingJesus, Baxter
>>583454823Right, I meant 13.>>583454983Oh it's one for ALL of them? I never used Cover willingly so I guess that'd make sense then.
>>583454709It really isn't that incredible by Strangereal standards.
AC8 has such awful audio overlap and pollution its just been>JOKER YOU HAVE A MISSLE LOCK>REX TEEHEE DO YOU LIKE MY NAILS TODAY?>CAN IT TASHA HE DOESNT WANT TO SEE YOUR NAILS>WARNING MISSILE INCOMING>MAN THESE WINGS GUYS ARE FUCKING US UP AAHHUH>WARNING PULL UP>RAY LOOK AT ME WEEEEE>16, 700, 900 the numberss gurrhgghgh>RAILGUN WARNING>PULL UP>BEEEP BEEEP BEEEEPP>WOW REX YOU REALLY BLEW UP THAT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL>WARNING YOU FUCKING MISSED A MISSLE>BEEP BEEEP>REX DO YOU WANNA WATCH THE SUNSET TOMORROW? Yes< >NoHoly shit SHUT the FUCK UP
>DD got btfo by Cossette of all peopleLmao
>>583455741why are you copypasting twitter posts
Could Cope have beaten the shadows if he stopped with his no kill rule?
I didn't even realize Cope had a no kill rule because of that guy who gets shot down right before he is at the Prologue.
>>583455741>Hey let me get uhhhh Ace Combat without the anime plot, the cheesy dialogue, the radio chatter or the superweaponsJust go play Microsoft Flight Simulator if the radio chatter filters you jesus
>AC7>2019No sign of COFFIN.>AC8>2029Still no sign of COFFIN.
You know, if I was living in a country that kept getting dragged into random wars because politicians wanted mining rights, my land, decided to support the wrong major world power, religion, economics, refugees, electricity... I can see why someone like me would support a complete societal shift into being run by a corporation. At least their main goal is getting money not blowing up my house every 8-10 years. Honestly 3 has some of the least civilian casualties outside of the corporate middle management seen in this series.
>>583455741>REX DO YOU WANNA WATCH THE SUNSET TOMORROW? Yes< >NoWhy didn't Tasha ask me this...
>>583455996That dude killed himself by hitting the bridge. No kill rule stands.
>>583456090The GR superplanes would've had COFFIN but they wanted to show off their fancy raytracing on the canopies
>>583456090We've technically always had at least the idea of COFFINs with all the ADF series but we just lacked the ENSI until now right?
>>583454895Probably just ordered it all discounted from the Enso website on Enso Order Day with same day delivery, and then were like>wait, do we really need 4 land battleships?>does anyone want advanced fighters? I got a whole pack 50% off >nah, I like mine >okay, we will just give them to the trainees>fuck, guys, I bought like 10 gigantic airlift cargo planes, my wife is gonna kill me>hey, we can use those to transport our land battleships!>but where to? hmmmm
>>583456090The AC7 final mission drones were the hardware and planetside software base for COFFIN enabled planes and Tewy's plane had clearly the first implementation of an proto-ENSI system in canon planes.The AI upload of people starts happening in the "2030s" and it's mid 2030 at the latest in AC8. There's plenty of time.
>>583455996I found it hilarious, manoeuvre kill is still a kill, and he wasn't exactly beat himself up about itBut he didn't pull le trigger so it's all kosher
>>583455996>>583456162>>583456587That's the way of the nomad my cro, *hits prairie grass* can't blame the wind for a kill you get me
>>583456587It's more that I had to rewatch it to realize that the missile came from Shadow 22 .
>>583456587When a deer runs from wolves and the wolf falls into a crevice and dies, is the deer at fault? On the prairie everybody does what they can to survive
Cope didn't kill that guy, Shadow 22 went Darwinist mode and shot a rocket at him saying>YOU FAILEDOr something to that effect.
So Enso Order had a large ownership stake in the FCU, with throwaway lines at the start of special economic zones and how half of the Endurance legally is owned by Enso Order. All of the superweapons and most of the regular weapons that Sotoa has is manufactured and operated remotely by Enso engineers.So Ace Combat 8 is a game about a corporation that blows itself up in order to make money off of the shells that it produces to blow itself up? Billionaires are retarded in fiction just as in real life it seems.
>>583456203My best guess is that they're holding back on COFFIN-inized fighters until their plans for the future of the franchise are finalized. But I realize that's pure copium on my part.>>583456305I think that's been true since at least AC5 because I saw a screenshot of the Falken's hangar description from the Japanese version, and they mention COFFIN there. I'm gonna look it up again as I don't have it saved.>>583456472I skimmed through the Aces at War 2029 scans and apparently the game ends in April of 2030. That's only two months away from the successful sublimation of Dision (and the chain of events that follows).
Why would you give the state of the art mass produced superplane to a bunch of babies instead of giving them to your elite pilots like the ones in shadow squadron?
>>583456758>Ace Combat 8 is a game about a corporation that blows itself up in order to make money off of the shells that it produces to blow itself up?Kinda. Enso is a DAO, aka a meme company structure where you're a "worker" when you buy enough stock in it and you're ostensibly only beholden to those that have stake in your ideas on how to run the business. Retarded new money cryptobros decided they wanted the ancapistani world order NOW and went accelerationist and DESTROY ALL BORDERS while DD wanted to go about it by making borders only lines of a map, connecting the world through media and commerce.
>>583455917I think so. My interpretation with Rex flying WSO after truly saying goodbye to Cope was, that he was a pilot not just possessed by Cope's spirit but also his skill. But since you aren't Cope and don't have all his baggage, you don't run and you pull the trigger on the Sotoans. I believe I remember the others even comment about how your flying reminds them of Cope's at some point and how he was like the wind.>I still have score to settle with this world.
>>583456819same reason topgun fags didn't want to ditch their f15 and move on
>>583456819Switching planes isn't as easy as ace combat makes it seem. If you're a pilot you learn in a trainer to go on a specific model of a plane you won't change across your entire career.
>>583456819Ask Leasath
>>583456765smee again, I found it
>>583456638Cope...
>>583457123The Falken in AC7 also name-drops COFFIN.
>>583456090uh, anon, Moon 11 airplane
>>583457123It literally says that in the English too. Stop being weeb
>>583457063Well in Strangereal at least it seems pretty easy, with all the civilians flying in fighters and all that. But even when applying real world logic, it doesn't seem to make much sense, aren't the F-22 guys pilots with thousands of hours in F-15s?
>>583456090>the X-40 Nightmare is the first product of Darkness of Enigma >which means the first test flight of the X-49 Night Raven is only 2 years away C'mon anon.
>>583456819>hey we got these new superplanes that can fly and fight semi-autonomously>nah, fuck off, I like my planefuThat's probably how it went.
>>583456819>instead of giving them to your elite pilots like the ones in shadow squadron?the game literally mentions that the fa-36 AI assistance makes it so high skill pilots are handicapped from doing anything outside of a set flight envelope
Maybe it's already been posted (haven't been checking because of spoiler risk) but AC8 works perfectly fine on Windows 10 as you guys said it probably would, despite the stated system requirements.
>>583457313>Stop being a weeb on 4chan.>>583457310>the bad guys get COFFIN but you have to cope with the same old junkc'mon anon>>583457545>again no COFFIN for you and literally everyone else like in AC3 which starts in uh 2030, instead it's superplanes onlyc'mon anon
I wanted to do a comparison of AC0 that came with AC8 versus in PCSX2. I noticed that when in 16:9 mode the framing of Pixie's FMV is correctly centered instead of aligned on the top, but it's weirdly frame blended to fake 60fps. The "For after all what is a man in nature?" text in the loading screen after choosing loadout goes by in about 4 seconds, so it's kind of hard to read all the text in time. The terrain in the missions normally have a dynamic tessellation going on so that its only at high detail up close, but in the PC version the terrain is just at full fidelity at all times. Weirdly, when you first get control of the aircraft the camera/HUD sort of tilts into place, and at rest the camera and part of the HUD are positioned lower on the screen than the original, causing your reticle to not be centered on the screen like it should be. Subtitle text in FMV and in-game gets bilinear filtered to smooth it. Hard to display some of this stuff well in a 4MB VP9 WebM but I did what I could.
>Spam Warfare>Sortie spawns after the 11th game>Set up boosters>Have fun for 2 minutes>Remove booster>Forget to swap mode>Go back to warfare spamIt's so fucking tiresome
>>583457990AC3 starts in the 2040s. COFFIN is in its infancy in the 2030s and Rena is one of the first if not the first person to receive nerve surgery to make full use of ENSI. The Rena's successful flight with the X-49 happens in 2032.
>>583457839Huh guess I missed that, I thought the autonomous systems just helped nuggies to be more effective in flying It but with their lack of skill preventing it to take It further.
A GROUP OF YOUNG ENSO ORDER EXECUTIVES
>>583458347Imagine Strangereal's version of /biz/>I use my voting shares to put forward a kill all Belkans motion>I've been invested in Gründer for 50 years and they dissolve them NOW?>He bought ENSOcoin at the end of the war
>>583458347>AC8's lesson is that Nepobabies can and will ruin everything
>>583458712>Nepobabies can and will ruin everythingThey can also fix everything however. It seems nepobabies are a neutral concept.
>>583457839>forced to play with novice controls>gets slaughtered>switch to standard>now can shoot down 1 planeKek fucking Enso
I am unreasonably upset that the online turned out to be a boring clownshow
>>583459128I bought this game only to play the campaign so I'm at worst mildly disappointed
>>583458992Thank you for beta testing our product :^)
>>583458784DD doesn't come off as a nepobaby to me. He's like a middle manager no one listens to.
>>583459128I expected that but I am still disappointed
>>583458573Strangereal's stock market is probably the most insane gambling den ever conceived.
>>583459192He's literally the biggest nepobaby in the world. The DD stands for Diaz Doniphan.
>>583459169Don't get me wrong, the campaign is great and I will be playing the shit out of it. I just wanted Infinity 2 to piss away at...>>583459282I was at least hoping it'd take longer than like 3 days for the meta to become this concrete and cancer
>>583441902Dogshit advice. People fire and forget. It's almost impossible to tell most of the time when someone has fired a LAAM at the target you're chasing down.
>>583448275>mfw i bought the su33 for the online instead of the su47>the su47 has UGBs so it's the superior multirole option SOMEHOWPlease tell me my baby is functional in this sea of UGB spam and LAAMs
>FA-36 GAME>War is just a game to EnsoB R A V O P ARAVOPA
>>583459529Both of those lose on the ground to Fullbacks and Europlanes. Both lose in the air to LAAM slingers
>>583459529Not really.su34 and f15Es are better on ground.LAAMs and SASM faggots will still fuck you and the Rafale is better at doing both thanks to LACM and LAAM access
Just finished mission 24, have 800k MRP in the bank, wanna buy new plane. How many of the next missions are carrier based?
The LAAM meta would sting a little bit less if people weren't so completely broken by it that they take it into Chandelier / Alicorn
>>583459890We found the one universe where the rafail isn't shit
>>583459559Well the EW version is the Barricader so that kinda falls apart
>>583459890Well i can't unlock the rafale just yet at my level.I guess i'll keep flying mirage until i can get something else. Sucks though, i love my Sukhois. I love Migs too, it's ashame the 31 is too good and the 29 is, by comparison, dogshit.Balance patch when PA (no chance of this ever happening but one can hope)>>583459978You sound bitter anon.
>>583460060>barricader>because it's a barricade to unlock itBRAVO
>>583455741I've played AC 3, 4, 5 and 7 but I swear the chatter wasn't this fierce in any of those. Some missions in AC8 are really egregious about this, particularly mission 3 where the music also has lyrics.
>>583460123God dammit
>>583460060>It's called barricader because they barricaded themselves from realityB R A V O K O J I M ARAVOKOJIMA
>>583460151The mission that you have to take down the huge flying wing that coordenates the satellite (lol) or something like that is very annoying "COME ON RAY YOU CAN DO IT"Fuck off tashajust shut the fuck up
>>583456090nigga the X-40 is literally the missing ring between the ADF series and the X series
>>583460151I think they fucked the audio mixing a bit and the audio layers incorrectly, Ace Combat 7 has a lot of radio chatter and stuff going on at times and it never overwhelms the music. In AC8 I've realized how great some of the tracks are only after listening to them in a vacuum, but in 7 they always complement the mission perfectly
>>583459559>FA-36 GAME>so easy to shoot down it feels like you are hunting game birdsB R A V O K O N ORAVOKONO
>both the Sotoan and SP liveries for the FA-36 are based on real world J-20 schemeswaow
I just wish we had aircraft with the COFFIN optics like we saw in ACX and 7’s DLC. I sort of get that narratively we’re limited to what can be bought on the Strangereal mass-market and the FCU’s supply chain and logistics are just fucked so anything newer in Strangereal terms is basically off limits but still.Gibmedem ACX originals back already…
how do i not suck at onlinecan't even land a single missile on other players and i don't want to just groundpound for meager pointst. nugget
>>583460101honestly i would be surprised if the MIG31 being as good as it is isn't due to a bug, it hands better than planes that have much higher bars for no good reason
>>583460695LAAM point and click adventure. It takes no skill and it's the meta
We're never getting back to the absolute kino fun of Infinity are we?
>>583460769>Be bomber>Racking points and getting spammed by SAMs>One faggot throw a lighning speed LAAM that doesn't even show on radar before death
They basically need to double the number and density of ground targets and tune the point value of them up.Outside of Shillage castle and the second half of Zapland it basically feels like a complete waste of time.
>>583460828Unless they're quick to tinker with things, which everyone seems to doubt, probably not.
>>583460828I'm for one I'm glad it's an undercooked piece of shit instead of something that would eat more resources and still have predatory Bandai Scamco-mandated monetization grafted on top of it
So. What's the point of the drop tanks? Like I can choose to either have better lock in in clouds or have the ability once per mission to press select? Why?
>finish mission>it's not ending?>flanker spawns on runwayYou should really learn when to give up.
>>583461136It's interesting that it's complete cancer to progress through but also you can't goy your way through it either. Although I guess there's all those merchants kicking around saying they'll be something soon so who knows.>>583461178LARP'ing for fun.
>>583461136They might put more resources into singleplayer DLC so yeah it might end up being a good thing.
>>583456130>Honestly 3 has some of the least civilian casualties outside of the corporate middle management seen in this series.Doesn't the Night Raven sink an entire megafloat at one point?>>583459529>>583459634>>583459890So are all the Sukhois minus the Su-34 doomed in ACO right now?>Su-25 is too slow.>Su-33's HVAA is an inferior LAAM, and RKT isn't that great as the sole A2G SpW.>Su-47 doesn't have a great A2A SpW in the current meta.>Su-35S's HVAA is an inferior LAAM, LAGM is an inferior LACM, and 6AAM isn't useful right now.>Su-57 takes one million sorties to unlock, then one billion ZOLL to upgrade.
>>583461203https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgNGtGI-XbM
>>583461203me on war thunder
>>583461339Most planes are doomed right now in ACO, desu
>>583461339The megafloat is 100% populated by Neucom executives so no problem. They were combatants as soon as they signed on to the corporate Healthcare plan
>AC8 could run on GTX 1650WTFhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTt7upcaAEE
>>583456130some real american humor going on there
So realistically what other EW craft would be options? Discounting fictional planes.I'm still not entirely sure what the purpose of them being their own class is besides just padding for Online challenges and nothing else.
>play through game on hard with my beloved F2A as soon as I can afford it>hard usually not a difficulty for me in Ac unless its some mission objective im totally not prepared for (every time I thought it was ever safe to bring the a10 for example)>Game starts to get very hard around mission 15ish, even ignoring how rough that mission is with the jammers>switch to f22 soon after>game is immediately much, much easier, like first couple of missions easyIs the f22 that much stronger than previous games or did the difficulty dip back down? Or did they turn their back on their nation's greatest weapon since the jav and make the f2a suck?
>>583461887The chink EW Flanker would be a good one, but we will never have it because chink plane.
>>583461941It feels like the class buffs/debuffs apply in campaign as well. Since the F-2A is an Attacker in 8, it doesn't handle very well. Meanwhile the F-22A is an end-tree Fighter, so it has superb handling. And yet I'd say the Su-57 is even better than the F-22A thank to its SpW selection.
>>583461887Su-24MPTornado ECRThat's pretty much it besides >>583462012
GR might've swept up Enso assets, but I know my stocks are way safer with Neucom
>>583461560It's really just LAAM/LACM/Morgan spam at this rate, huh? I'm tempted to force a 6AAM build via the Super Hornet or Su-35S purely out of spite.
>>583462012>>583462356>Planes we're never seeing (again (probably)) or plane we're cucked out of because PA actually cares about licensesI am sad
>>583461941It's not even the case of late game aircraft being much stronger, in AC8 early game planes just handle poorly. It's not an AC7 situation, where you can just pick your favorite plane no matter how low it is on the tech tree and expect to completely stomp the game
>>583461736Has software raytracing support so it runs even if at pretty bad performance, with a 1660 at minimum and FSR set to ultra performance it's completely playable though
>>583462540They could easily get the tornado if they wanted to, gaijin got the license for war thunder in 2022 and they still had to pay for it for the zero port
>>583461339>>583462483i can see 6AAM being used to speed up arsenal birds sorties but i don't see their use in warfare or coop as everything either dies befoore you're in range or you'll just miss 6 missiles instead of one
>>583462483Variety in online is completely dead and you can't really outskill someone only needing to hit one button from 10km away
>>583459958I just want my exp
>>583462842No I'm referring to the Chinese plane(s) for the licensing bit. I already know they could add the Tornado if they wanted to but probably won't.
I bought the game after release, do I just got no way of playing the ac0 release? Gotta emulate?
What new planes do we have to look forward to in future games?F-47 (NGAD)Su-75...and?
>>583463135You can pirate it. DLC unlocker might work too.
>>583463002The chinese planes do not need to be licensed, they're state owned companies
>>583463160Edgewing Tempest/F-X (GCAP)
>>583463160>Su-75lollmao
>>583462871>>583462882ACO is somehow worse than 7's MP, and 7's MP was hot garbage if someone brought the right SpW and could fly half-decently.
>>583463163Base game has Denuvo, was AC0 ripped separately? I saw ac8 was on fitgirl, but with some weird system workaround required
>>583463160What about the Turkish plane
>>583463160F 15 eXXX Ultra Eagle
>>583463160apparently the britbongs and japs are making a planeIf France doesnt blow up in the next 5 years there's the next plane they're working on.Whatever china will produceHonestly i think one of the stopgap for the few modern planes that exist is to introduce variants, like the f16XL backThey don't always need to be realistic, but i sure would like to see the delta f22 or some bullshit like thatI just don't know how legal it is with the licensing and if companies would allow it.
>>583463356You can always use the hypervisor method, which is how they got it to workhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_LfN9Mk8I0But unless I'm remembering it completely wrong I think there's a completely separate download for AC0 and only AC0, if you wanna pirate it, I think I saw it on /v/, not sure where you would find it right now.
>>583455996>Cope refuses to shoot at his countrymen>22 blows up his own wingman right in front of him because fuck you that's whyIt's not a Sotoan thing, it's a Cope thing.
damn the moon11 theme kinda hits. good enough to wash my ears from what i had to hear the mission before
Christ, trying to outturn the Alicorn railguns in a Frogfoot is a nightmareStill, we killed it with an S rank, feels good
>7 and 8 both have missions with a sizable number of oil containers lined up>Napalm bomb hasn't been seen in several gamesMakes me sad every time
>>583459285>Buy stock in salvage companies while you can!Said by a random Erusean soldier standing on the shore as he watched an entire fleet get blown to shit in harbour by only four planes.
>>583463160YR-101 prototype Delphinus
>>583464089You get drop tanks though!...On like one plane...Enjoy!
>>583463849>Shadow 22 larps as a nomad because he learnt it from Moon 11>Moon 11 larps as a nomad because she learnt the lifestyle from Cope>Cope taught Tasha and possibly Coster flying techniques>Ghost Cope helps RexDoes everything in 8 just stem from Cope?
>LAAMs>ESM>ECMAbsolute nigger behavior if you use any of this shit.
Took the Morgan out for a spin at Fatsia. Pleasantly surprised to find it comes with a Cipher skin that gives it proper blue wings, and this thing snap-turns on a dime. Interestingly, the MPBM is actually affected by both A2A and A2G booster parts.
>>583464412>Interestingly, the MPBM is actually affected by both A2A and A2G booster parts.As in, the A2A damage part boosts damage against everything, or just air targets?
For how much both sides canonically blast music at each other I'm surprised there's nothing like Sol Squadron where you kinda have the dueling themes going on
top 1 saddest moment in anime history
>>583464350What if i use the mpbm or laser from morgan
>>583464521Frostwave, Retaking of Theve 2 and Gaffed Card all fit the bill, imo.
>>583464904Felt more like going with each other than trying to fight for space to me but I can see it desu.Whole soundtrack's great either way
I really wish there was a way to check what abilities planes have in multiplayer before buying them. I don't want to spend the credits to find out and I'm not high enough level to buy half of them yet even if I did have infinite money.I'm sure people will upload information soon enough but it'd be nice if I could know now without having to rely on them.
I probably shouldn't have chosen to play through the whole game in the F/A-18C, huh?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCdoptDSDbI
What the fuck
>>583464987It's shocking how little the game actually tells you, I've spent like 10 minutes trying to upgrade Mirage with general parts because general parts get a single line in a tutorial saying "You can spend them to upgrade any plane teehee"
>>583465118Stryker mk.II
>>583465118Is that a stryker
>>583464350Don't worry, I'll partner up with 3 buddies and run 3 x Mig-31 QAAM/LAAM and 1. EA-36 with IEWS/XSDB.
>>583465118Centauro 155/39LW turret but on Stryker chassis?
>Almost 40 GB of the game files sized is dedicated solely to Audio
Honestly these assets are so high-fidelity I think they could get away with reusing them for later games to cut down on dev time.PLEASE use them to cut down on dev time.
>>583465145The really annoying thing is the game is surprisingly generous with level up info. You can check the individual stats for every single level of a plane you own, both higher and lower than what the current level is. Really good. Except then if you haven't bought the plane you get practically nothing. You can't even tell what the second/third special weapons are. It goes from great to awful.Maybe I'll just hang out here and start harassing people to post abilities if I see them post that they have a high tier plane.
>>583465401They already are. Ground targets are majority reused from ac7, just with better textures. Ships are literally the same, enemy carriers are Kuznetsovs AGAIN. Cockpits of Su-35 and -57 are reused from 7 too.
>>583465401My personal bet is that this line of thought is why we'll probably be seeing AC7 planes that're not included first before anything that'd need a wholly new model.Assuming the Online gets any continued support for that long with how its bleeding players
>>583465006No-one will mind if you upgrade to either of the Super Hornets.
>>583465540... Wasn't the Su-57's cockpit in AC7 still based on the T-50 prototype?
How DOES military procurement even work in Strangereal anyway? Seems like every damn vehicle under the sun is open-source and can be built and maintained freely by any country.
>>583465595I'm on mission 26, I can do this.
>>583465697Yeah. And the one we have in-game is exactly the same with mentions of R-36M and random letters on instruments. Overall model is slightly different, but still a mishmash of various prototypes.
So, will future Ace Combat Online content updated recreate old maps in the new engine, or will they keep using AC 7 and 8 maps?
>>583465893That's a shame, but it's not like PA can easily get their hands on better material right now. Oh well.
>>583465761You wait for a sale, and put all the howitzers you want on your enso.com cart.Wait 2 days, or 1 if you're an enso prime member.
>>583465928They betterEspecially super weapon battles
Did someone check the nightraven model yet?
>>583466062That's already the case with Chandelier
>>583465928Depends if they can unfuck it mechanically or not before it completely dies.
>>583466128They put Chandelier in Snyders Top, tho?
>>583466175Not much to unfuck, just make missions last longer than 5 minutes and give more ways to grind out general plans and thats it
post planesi love my beat-to-shit look
>>583466128Yeah which makes me hopeful for moreI'd like Megalith covered in lasers please
Just realised the typhoon is the highest tier of LAAMboat available.What skills does it get?
>>583466303>Not much to unfuckI would like more than 4 planes to be viable
I don't know who needs to know this, but you can have up to 60 Aircraft Sets in singleplayer
>>583466029>enso.com1 *I tried getting my EnsoAI premium and they jacked up the price for "Triumphant-tier".I don't even know what the fuck Triumphant is
>>583466382All planes are viable, just dodge the LAAM's
>>583466462Can I ask the fucking ai to dodge instead of just sitting there and giving the enemy team a million points before I can do anything?
>>583466572LAAMs cant hit ground targets
>>583466462Right, because once you dodge the LAAM and close in the mig-31 only has QAAMs and one of the best turnrates in the game.
>>583466810No but the two Fullbacks already swept everything (and made half as much as one Mig brainlessly shooting LAAMs)
>>583466810Half a map of ground targets is worth as many points as like 4 planes.
I need help deciding if I should unlock the F/A 18F or the F/A 18E... I assume statistically they are identical, with the only changes being the special weapons they carry. What do you guys think? The QAAM of the 18E or the 4AAM of the 18F?
>>583466810Rafale gods do both
>>583467041It's not a LAAM slinger so who cares
>>583467041One is a dedicated fighter, the other is a multi-role. So do you want to PVP or PVE?
>>583467041I recommend the E.6AAM > 4AAM.SOD are really good if you line up your ground targets correctly.QAAMs are nice too.
>>583467121Oh, I'm just playing the campaign right now - haven't even thought about playing online yet.
>>583467187>Need help deciding for solo play of all thingsNigger just use what you have fun with holy shit
why do yall talking like you can bring 2 spw in online, am i missing something here?
>>583467306With enough grind anything becomes possible.Actually not anything but two specials does at least.
>>583467306you unlock the second slot on l20
>>583467250they're 240,000 strangedollars dammit, that's expensive and I don't wanna make the wrong choice>>583467178thanks!
>>583467386>>583467371fuuuuuuuuck
>>583467306You can. Unlock an aircraft's level cap twice (to Lv15), and it can equip two SpW with reduced ammo capacity for each. But depending on the two SpW you pick, you can get good synergy with parts and/or boost your DPS versus just using one SpW.
>>583467413The E is the canon aircraft and SOD is great in SP so go with that
>>583467306If you uncap a plane to level 15, you can bring 2 SPW's
>>583467510Level 20. Raising the cap to 10 gets you the second special, but raising the cap to 15 doesn't get you anything that interesting. It's still good because better stats but it's not that interesting.
what should I buy 1st online with 50k creds?should I max out my ADFX 1st?
>>583468003probably a good multirole so you can actually do things on A2G missions, and a good fighter so you can do things on A2A missions.Alternatively, bee urself.
>>583467995raising the cap to 15 unlock the ability to use 2 SPW's what are you talking about
>>583468337I think it depends on the plen. Some unlock their 2nd spw at 5 instead of 10 and then unlock using 2 spws at 15 instead of 20.
>>583468527I unlocked the ability to use 2 SPW's on the Morgan by uncapping to level 15. I think this is a universal featureAlso, Sotoan AA gun
>>583468003Mig-31B.
>>583468206is the ADFX not a good plane?I already lvld it to 10 so fari like the big bomb it has
I am a free thinker and I shall be flying the Mig-31 with LAAMs in warfare. I will also be inviting a buddy who has the EA-36 unlocked to fly with me in formation.
>>583468206>Unlike Infinity, Fighters can unlock A2G SpW>A2G SpW fired from Fighters do garbage damage due to the class systemI get the balancing around it, but it's still annoying.
Do your duty, if you see a LAAM nigger in your lobby, Alt-F4!
The way the missions in ACO are designed only make sense to me if they found real life 25 IQ S*t*ans using Novice Controls to do all of their play testing.
>>583469293The preview stream for the online did have them all playing like shit, so...
Actually, why is it that every missions is Difficulty 1 with the occasional Difficulty 2Infinity went up to 4
>no one delays the final attack on the submarine>everyone just blasts it with ADFX bombs>C rank constantly At least kill the railguns with me buddies... please.
Finally managed to kill both the Chandelier and Alicorn by flying a Growler and spamming ESM.If your team mates are gonna be retarded, then you simple must empower their retardation into a n unstoppable force
>>583469869Wise Copes from Jan Cope
>>583469293I think the current missions make more sense for one team of 4 coordinated players vs two teams of randoms, but the matchmaking doesn't accomodate that right now. Plus IIRC some of the whales in Infinity could flat out solo S rank some missions with powerful enough aircraft.
>>583468840Very expensive and you pigeonhole yourself for the grind.Getting a couple of mid/higher mid tier planes makes it much more enjoyable instead of burning yourself out flying a singular one that is very expensive to upgrade. It did for me, so i might just be projecting.If you're dedicated, go for it my dude. I'm not playing the game for you nor do i know what makes you tick. I'm not even gonna argue meta.
>>583469968The game does feel way better with only 4 people and I hope they just let us match like that
finally the game is now playable
>>583465928It's weird that not a single map used in online is from AC8. They are all from AC7. Even Fort Grays Island is the AC7 version without the massive ship pen in the side of the mountain at the airbase.They should add annihilation missions as a new mode. They made a big deal to explain them to noobs in the campaign after nuggets got filtered hard by Long Day in AC7. Bring back classic ones from past games and just have both teams compete by clearing a big map until the score limit is reached. Could be a basic one with no gimmicks like Comberth Harbour or mix it up and do Tango Line with both teams getting attacked by Stonehenge. Hell, even some seen as a slog (like Whiskey Corridor or Glatisant) by series veterans could be considered a bit more entertaining alongside other players. Remake Merlon from Zero into an annihilation mission with Alpha, Beta and Theta objectives on the map at the same time and have Excalibur attack each squad in alternate waves.>"Bravo squad, enemy strategic laser system is targeting you. Watch out!">MiG-31 players get lasered from orbit. Picture it! Salvation!Would be so much more interesting than the rapid fire mission updates galore, kill stealing, format Co-Op assault currently offers.
Squad up with 3 MiG-31s slinging LAAMs and QAAMs, and have one squaddie in a growler to enable the rapening.
I have never hated a mode more than co-op warfare. I take a fighter and try to down the enemy aces? They all dogpile me instantly, even if they were on the other side of the map. I take an attacker and focus the enemy units? Non-stop LAAMs up my ass, and my teammates might as well not exist when the enemy team dogpile me again.
>>583468337Oh yeah, you're right. I somehow misremembered that. I think I'm an idiot.>>583468527You might be an idiot too, sorry to have to tell you that.
Okay so maybe I didn't Delay the Final Attack, but does that really mean I should be disconnected from the lobby
>Playing Ace Combat PvP at alllollmaoEcksDee, even
>>583470025is it worth buying any of the parts in the store for 10k each?
I fucking timed out while fighting S22 cause I couldn't get his ass with the few missiles left after all that farm. Is there a trick to him? I respawned and burst him down 30 seconds in with QAAM spam but that doesn't feel right.
>>583451348I liked how Bandog went from "you're all assholes and I get to decide when you die" to "you're MY assholes and ONLY I get to decide when you die".
>>583470656I think it is.I did buy missile guidance 2 and maneuverability 2.But better plane build autists can probably answer you.
You're telling me that these Aces are engaging in Combat?
>>583470710GUNSGUNSGUNS
>>583470710Can't use flares against guns. Admittedly he's still tough to hit, but he has regular durability so he won't take THAT many hits to kill. IMO the two gun boosting parts are mandatory for campaign.
>>583470815it truly is ace combat
>>583470281>Not a rafaleNGMI
>Aircraft with better performance locked behind grind>Better stats for your aircraft locked behind grind>Double Support Weapons locked behind grind>Mandatory Lv2 parts locked behind grind, and hidden under cosmetics in a shit menu>Best parts of the online are timegatedIt's like the worst parts of 2012 Japanese live service games jumped forward in time.
>>583470710you can cheese them with SASMs
So is the F15C ass in MP? Other than getting SASM it seems very underwhelming. Was kinda hoping to LARP as Cipher. It truly is a LAAM world
>>583471004>Mandatory Lv2 parts locked behind grind, and hidden under cosmetics in a shit menuI'm excited to learn what bullshit we'll be going through for levels 3 and 4. Unironically because I have stockholm syndrome.
>>583471182The current meta is the LAAMest
>Chandelieroopsie i accidentally alt-f4'd by mistake because it's the seventh time in a row i've got this mission nobody knows how to play!
>>583470710You can land on Cima Island to resupply, you're see a prompt to click your left thumbstick.Alternatively just hit the Start button and Restart from Checkpoint.
>>583471182F-15J seems like a better Cipher representative than the F-15C, given the former gets UGB like the ACZ F-15C.
>>583471336It's impressive that the meta has also managed to turn the bulk of the playerbase into complete subhumans that don't know how to do anything else but point LAAMs at targets. I have no other way to explain why Alicorn and Chandelier is filtering so many teams
>>583470710Guns. When he does his circus tricks he loses enough energy to be a nice target for guns.
I like that the princess also became a border buddy. And I absolutely adore her voice, I'd fly anywhere for her.
SU-34 worth it? Almost maxxing the A10C
>>583471680Bombs. Big bombs, and lots of them.Great for ground pounding.
SAAM > LAAM
I fly nothing but the prowler in MP, ask me anything.
>>583471680>Is the only viable Attacker worth itCouldn't tell you
>>583471636I hope Rosa likes pressure washing, because all those land battleship tread squashed refugees might start to smell soon.
What does this thing mean
>>583472125flare cooldown
>>583472125Flare charges
>>583472152>>583472173AHHHH I didn’t realize that makes sense. Thought it was something special with crazy maneuvers or something
>>583471814SAAM+LAAM or SAAM+HVAA is a good combination since they have part synergy, but SAAM works at mid range well within its envelope, whereas the other two require max lock range.
*multiple overlapping [RAILGUN WARNING]s*
>>583471946Not to mention all the cooked Sotoans
>>583472718>The enemy dialogue during the back half of that fightI know it's deserved but Jesus Christ what a way to go
>>583470281based gripen enjoyer
>>583472125Plane balls recharging
man online is so lameeveryone is stealing all my killsmight as well go afk
watch them add Level 3 parts now that i'm done
how big is the difference in stats/handling overall strength between the online planes? can i just use whatever i think is cool and it'll be fine if i level it up? i don't mind being a little weaker, but don't want to completely waste all my resources on some piece of shit that will just make me a dead weight.any suggestions for a level 4 noob?
>take an attacker>do nothing all match because the multiroles are faster at getting to ground targets than you and fighters are just better all overboywish i didn't spend all this zoll on these attackers
>>583441143no one works at Mikoyan anymore, it's all Sukhoi
>>583471483I couldn't find a supply line and fought S22 with like 10 MSLs. Thank You. I only wish I knew it earlier, kinda ass to do the entire thing again for S rank..
>>583473851Use it for the chandelier, it will be very helpful
>>583470316if you look closely, the ground detail is a bit worse than the AC8 campaign maps, maybe they did this to improve performance? (considering the clouds and RT already takes a good chunk of power)
>>583472718>>583472810Meanwhile on the life rafts full of terrorists waiting for rescue after their fake cargo ships were sunk.
>Clouds no longer block TLSWhy the fuck did they change it? It was literally the only counter to these niggers.
>>583472718>>583472810Imagine the horrors the clean-up crew saw inside. Hell, cleaning up the first battleship sounds like a horror too considering the coked up survivors put up resistance
>>583473916https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan_PAK_DPthis sounds sicktoo bad it'll never get built
>>583474142Rex started on a life raft himself>>583474196They do say they need to take time to get rid of all the booby trapsSotoans are fucked up
So WHY is this thing the BEST fucking jet ever?The LACM and LAAM combo is just too good
>>583474291This is also after tear gassing the hell out of everyone still inside.I want a CoD-esque game but in this setting. The shit that goes down on the ground sounds fucked up
>>583474291Yeah, but Rex didn't get to smell cooked Sotoan sailors while stuck in his raft.
>>583474394I wonder if the devs are aware that using chemical weapons is a war crime.I mean I guess maybe it's not a war crime in this setting but it still seems weird.
>>583474324Funny baguette triangle
>>583444567love of the game, manlove of the game
>>583474574Maybe it's not a war crime at all
>>583474574Geneva doesn't exist in Strangereal so there's no checklist, presumably.
The existence of EW planes makes online DOA regardless of whether they nerf LAAMs or not. Real hell is playing against a maxed barricader
>>583443328This ancient japanese website seems to think it's doable.https://www.srcj.or.jp/html/megafloat_en/whatmega/what_index.htmlThe ancient webdesign and the ambitious project really takes you back doesn't it? When Japan was a nation of hopes and dreams, and megaprojects like Megafloat, Space Elevator and Shimizu Pyramids seemed doable...
>>583474574There are no war crimes in Strangereal. You just get strong words for dropping a fucking orbital spear onto a school.
>>583474891It's called the Barricader because it blocks everyone from having fun
I've put 10 hours into Online and not seen a single scramble, are they even turned on?
>>583473851Game needs a hardcore rebalancing of the different roles.Attacker craft should get like a fucking +100% lock on range to ground targets for standard missiles and red support weapons. It's the only way you'd make them viable.
>People actually think this will get balance patchesRetarded niggers
>>583475028I've had like ten.RNG is weird I guess.
>>583475208Nobody said that's happening. They're saying it SHOULD happen.
>>583475028It feels weird having done 7 emergency sorties but only 2 scramblesThe proc chances are nonsense, they really need to do some kind of pseudo random thing where you're guaranteed after so many matches
>>583474324Because it's utterly ruined by this hideous piece of shit
>>583475378That's the baguette holder you fool
>>583475272I got like 9 scrambles but only 1 emergency sortie(it was the arsenal bird, got a completion with a B rank).
>>583475408
What would you think if they balanced laam spam by bringing back dogfight mode? You see a guy slinging rockets on the edge of the map so you rush over and staple yourself to his exhaust until he explodes?
>>583475272>having to roll gameplay gacha for an ever so slightly more engaging gamemodeniggers have gone insane
>>583475485That's basically what you get with a full team of EA-36s. Just stay in your bubble and force them into a gunfight(assuming they also have their own EA-36 so you can't use missiles either).
>>583475557Obviously the best solution would be to just let us play them but considering the situation I think we can only hope for a middle groundMaybe mods will save us somehow, or Kono's heart will grow three sizes
>>583475763>>583475557They just need to make them consistent activities rather than pure fucking RNG. Let one happen every half hour rather than >oh well...maaaaaybe we'll let you play the fun missions if we feel like it :)
So why are people under the impression Infinity 2 won't get updated when Infinity 1 did fairly consistently
>>583475875If I recall in infinity you would get an emergency sortie every three to five missions. And that was a pay to play game so I hope they return to that standard along with the chance at higher difficulty versions of superweapons like gold stonehenge
>>583475272>>583475415You two need to invite each other when you get special missions. It'll be like an international trade agreement. You both have a good the other party wants.
>need to go out of town for a week in a couple days>not looking forward to getting my asshole gaped by max level F-22s and Su-57s that i will literally never be able to shoot down when i get back
>>583476098>every three to five missionsThat's being extremely lucky in ACO.my average is 8 to 10
>>583475028>>583475272Explain to me why they didn't add private lobbies where I can fly whatever mission I want. Just turn off any XP or Zoll gain inside them if you are worried about people grinding in private lobbies, just let me fight the superweapons whenever I want and with whoever I want
>>5834761659 scrambles and 10 emergencies out of 100 total sorties here.I'm the coolest.
>>583476131Ehh. I don't think anyone actually likes Scrambles, they just like the big ZOLL rewards.
>>583476203Because we live in the bad timeline where lobbies in modern games went extinct because the majority of gamers are cattle and the majority of developers are cattle for shareholdersWhere have you been
>>583476312I would love scrambles if they were thematic instead of a random bunch of bullshit. Give me squadrons from previous games in their appropriate planes. Imagine fighting fucking Strigon Team or something 8v8 that would be awesome
>>583475063>Hardcore rebalancingLol it needs to be resetIt's a fundamentally shit format
>>583476415>Hard mode Scramble>Wizard squadron shows up>Missiles fly in and kill them all instantly>"You're not going to believe this, team! They ALL have ribbon insignias!">MISSION UPDATEPA is sitting on gold and they just don't use it?
>>583473851I mean what'd you expect? The exact same thing happens when you take an attacker in singleplayer, you just get higher completion times than a multirole using the same SPWs.
https://poal.me/55eu93https://poal.me/55eu93https://poal.me/55eu93
>>583476415The game included AC0 remaster and the first battle pass is 0-themed and these lazy fucks wouldn't even include B7R as a scramble location and have a bunch of ace squadrons from 0 showing up
Thematic Scrambles won't matter anyway when you just click LAAMs on everything all the time every time
WHAT FUCKING MOUTH BREATHING JAP FUCKING NIGGER THOUGHT GIVING THE MIG-31 THE BEST A2A SPECIAL WEAPONS IN THE GAME ON TOP OF HIGH SPEED AND A DISGUSTINGLY TIGHT TURN RATE WAS A GOOD IDEATRUMAN, GIVE JAPAN A THIRD FUCKING NUKE
>>583476827LAAM and SAAM are good, but the real best SPW imo is>A good plane with sasms
Remember aceg infinity lobbies? Low rank limits so we couldn't fly superplanes, formation flying after mission completion, delay the final attack, S rank or fail. I miss those days. Now our parties are limited to only 4
>>583473734We know they're going up to level 4 just from the red smoke part.
>>583476917Bold of you to assume this game will survive long enough to see that
>>583476203Because you'd do it like 5 times and be done with it.
>>583453663ALL FUCKING SOTOANS MUST FUCKING HANGESPECIALLY THE NUGGETSPARTICULARLY THE NUGGETSSHOOT DOWN A SOTOAN NUGGET AND GUN RUN THEIR PARACHUTE
The missile trails crisscrossing the skies in 6 were really pretty...
>>583476646I'd love to see Glamrock show up with the combat AI turned up to 11.
I give uponline just isn't fun to play with othersI guess I'll wait till they add a solo assault sortie
>Try to fly the barrel in chandelier>Stack of ally boxes makes it impossible to see in front of you
ace combat online would be saved if the dialogue had more sovl to italicorn fight without the angry captain = lame
>>583476884>mfw giving Morgan players SASM bad touches in my rustbucket
>>583477501>I guess I'll wait till they add a-lollmao
>>583477452That's one of my favorite things about 6 and PW. The persistent trails really made furballs even more fun
>>583474574tear gas ain’t a war crime sonhell most countries use CS gas grenades
>>583472610RAILGUN WARNINGRAILGUN WARNING
>>583474196they said they used knockout-gas, but i like to believe they lied and pumped Sarin in there.knockout gas is deadly anyway if used in the wrong dosage compared to body weightand even using tear gas would've been a warcrime anyway, all chemical weapons are banned
Was D. Brand (the fort grays island schizo) supposed to be a reference to anything or was he just some guy
>>583476884>and SAAMNigga the Mig-31 gets QAAMs too.
>>583478171QAAM are pretty meh in 8, SASMs are better at securing kills
>>583478020it's not a warcrime to use on your own civiliansusing it against another army very much is.It may not make sense, but getting terar gassed may cause the affected soldiers to belive they have been hit with something worse, like chlorine or even nerve gas. They may then retaliate with something worse based on this faulty intel, and then the genie is out of the bottle...
Kinda hope the online just croaks in the upcoming months so that bumco doesn't waste any time trying to milk it and greenlights ac9 instead.
>>583478242QAAM are insane if you use all the upgrades for it, and absolutely busted if you have an ECM player.
>>583478474You only need a few people to slop out AC7 assets
>>583478242QAAMs are quite good, actually. Especially when you use the tracking upgrade parts.
>>583478551>You only need a few peopleSure, will it take 7 years again?
>>583478171Okay, so? The foxbat being strong is more a "the game in online is poorly implemented right now" issue
>>583478474Thankfully they separated achievements and medals from MP entirely so I can safely ignore it completely
gonna get my growler tonight ladswhat am I in for
>>583478735>Not one of the 4 relevant planesWho cares
>>583478825>Has EW capabilitiesIt's relevant
>>5834788254? What's the 4th? Mig-31, EA-36, Morgan(for ground attack unironically), and...?
>>583478474Night raven is already in game so that indicates some form of AC9 assets being already made at least
>>583478913You're just a shittier Barricader and shouldn't even bother>>583478935MiG-31, Barricader, Rafael, and Fullback. Everything else is just throwing
>>583474574A matter of interpretation, I'd say.
>>583478668>this issue is a this game is poorly balanced issueNo fucking shit retard
>>583478913Yeah, except it only has the ECM and gets the ESM at level 20. And unlocking level 20 costs like 150k ZOLL in upgrade and blueprint costs.Meanwhile you can just buy the EA-36 and it gets IEWS at level 1.
>>583479006typhoon is better at being a LAAMboat
>>583479113It takes far more investment, though. The Foxbat is cheap to upgrade and is still fast with a very tight high-g turn.
>>583479103yeah but consider the followingea-36 looks fucking stupid whereas the hornet is a turbo f-5e (based)
>Best song in AC8?Probably hortus regis>Best implementation of a song in 8?The wings of theve song being timed to the ups and downs of the engagement>Worst use of a song?That ass hat 22 doesn't deserve electric mariachi guitar, he's way too uncool for itElse iunno I think archange was better than hortus
>>583479113No it isn't. Mig-31 gets QAAMs and also has a better turnrate for no reason. QAAM covers the exact range where your LAAMs don't work, typhoon has to take 4AAM for its 2nd A2A weapon.
>>583479006>I'm just a shitter barricaderNo I just don't play that shit mode, and because I'm not retarded enough to get mad at people for playing it and choosing a plane they want to use, stupid fuck
>>583479103>except it only has the ECM and gets the ESM at level 20Nah, it's the other way around.
>>583479236>implementation>Ea36 looks stupidFuck you and your opinion
I hate the noisy stupid lobby and no one even talks to each other in there anyway because of the character limit
>>583473734Do i need to buy part II to get part III ?I didn't buy a single part yet
>>583479531who knows, Level 3 aren't here yet
>>583479506I'm too busy trying to get into match just to get kicked back to main menu, so I'm too upset to communicate
>>583479506They need to turn that big fucking screen to something else.
>>583478048He was /aceg/ made real
>>583479597The online won't survive long enough to see them
I'd say we're doing fine.
>>583479821Is that PlayStation?
>>583479901No, that's Steam. This is PSN but this is as far as regional PSN stores are concerned. No approximate numbers whatsoever. But it's doing well in SEA and somewhat well in NA.
>>583480019It's been an insane past release month for NA so that's definitely something
>>583479821Those people are not playing the online
>>583480341What part of that post suggested it was a response to the pure misery that is people being assmad about the shittiest most backwards online mode in a game at the moment
>>583480173I think it's around or past one million now, which is good, considering it's a niche title priced at $69.99.>>583480341Most people aren't and won't be. It's not what the series is about anyway. I was talking about the overall opening week sales performance.
>morgan launches an mbpm in my general direction>fps dip into 30s>crashthe strongest EW aircraft bar none
Is it probably just funny or cursed if I did Cope's hand on chest gesture while meeting a fellow fan
>>583480728Definitely gives me the strongest "ew".
>>583480660>Niche titleI have to wonder how well shillup's video did on that front, since the main focus of that video which got millions of views was an 8 minute or so PSA about how ace combat is not niche
https://x.com/kazutoki/status/2107026570728890839>A week has passed since the release of Ace Combat 8. It seems like over the weekend, various people around me have been playing it, and I’m hearing voices about it at the company too. I’m truly grateful, thank you all. On the other hand, I’ve snapped back to regular work duties at a startling pace. No business trips, no streams, and I’m even in a position to head home on time. I’m feeling a bit thrown off by this sudden return to everyday life.
>x-40's UAVTslmao biggest enemy squadron fuck you since the Nosferatu
>>583480942I feel no strong feelings about cope and genuinely don't understand how you couldHell I would risk allegations of sexual harassment and throw a five winged hand up before I emulate cope
>>583481154I love these japs man
>>583481168Absolutely worthless against upper tier shadows
>>583481248What's a five winged hand up
>>583480660Ace Combat is well-established by this point, it was niche when Ace Combat 7 released especially on PC but 7 years of memes and discounts made it the most popular game in the franchise by now and a lot of it was PC sales
>>583481441It's gonna be sad and disappointing yet all too expected when like it doesnt even get anything at like TGA because like GTA6 releases just before the cut off for that and sweeps everything, even if I dont care about that show much
>>583481441I wish it would go back to being more niche. Discourse around the game is insufferable with tourists who have only played 7. >>583481685Award shows are rigged anyway.
>>583480942they would escalate to a fistfight for being s*toan
>>583481406Did you watch any cutscenes?It's literally the hand of hope
Speaking of UAV squadrons, they really need to replace the mid-sortie UAV swarm, shit sucks and is lame as hell.
>>583481103>which got millions of viewsI mean it really didn't.
>>583481786>Did you watch any cutscenes?It's pretty obvious that like 80% of the people talking about the game either didn't watch the cutscenes or skipped them.
>>583481685It probably won't win anything but I expect it might get nominated for things like music or sound design especially since it was first shown at TGA
>>583481441>Ask person about ace combat>Isn't it that flight sim?No, no it's definitely still not well known>>583481745What are you on about, 7 is a great starting point since all the missions are quite demanding compared to most of the previous titles
>>583481881>>583481786Look, I am just at before stage 7...
>>583482019Go play the game before you get spoiled, dumbass
>>583481828Oh FWell there you go it's still a niche game lmao>>583481881Yeah but theyll supposedly do the iconic hand to chest motion of a guy who was onscreen for half a minute?
I wonder what 8 year old Rena was doing around the time those terrorists blew up Roca Roja?
>>583482063>DumbassWhoa we either got a hot caramel mechanic, or a grumpy awacs support in the thread>>583482019I genuinely have no clue how you find/found cope endearing enough
>no actual yes/no when Cosette reprises the "Can you hear me, pilot with the X?"what a blunder
>>583481685Not sure if GTA6 will actually fit into that window as it's releasing pretty late but even then it's such a massive release that I can't think of any game that could potentially dethrone it, especially this year. No shame in losing to a thirty trillion dollar project, especially when you're just a game about plens with little to no recognition outside of NA and Asia.
>>583482246Well, it wasnt my idea, just saw it somewhere else
>>583482139Not being hit by guided munitions apparently
>>583482139Sleeping through the days to avoid catching any sunlight.
>>583482331Well fuck them and fuck cope>Have to inherit the title of a laughingstock >Queen flight literally puts zero respect to your name>Hell they immediately notice you're not dead weight and start taking you seriously like 4 missions before mission at which point Tasha still hasnt started taking you seriously
The flight lead of the Shilagean squad looks extremely familiar but I can't place her face
>>583482376Brat needs guided munition correction
>>583482729one of milhaly's granddaughters
>>583482828Wait holy shit is that true how did I miss this
>>583482828Different names
>>583482881Honestly? Probably because she looks pale as fuck and I remember her being caramel and most people associate the sisters as a pairBut by that logic then la chanteuse is the other sister since the 3 know that lullaby
When does Geoff usually announce TGA nominees?
>>583482828Pretty sure that's la chanteuse.
i think i am already forgetting the multiplayer and just sticking to doing all the singleplayer stuff
beat ace combat 8, i really struggled with staying ontop of aces/really mobile fighters - in some missiosn they just seem to barely ever fly straight and are constantly high-g u-turning so it feels impossible trying to line up shots. Is there some kind of doctrine or moveset I'm supposed to use for dogfighting? It really sucks when I'm chasing the last ace like shadow 22 and it just amounts to holding the stick in one direction and then high g-turning when I sense an opportunity.
>>583483246Mid nov
>>583471336what the fuckI haven't seen any of these timegated missions a single time
>>583482246cope makes a very good first impression by being super down to earth, which is why he gets immediately shot down
>>583483491more like super down to ocean!
>>583471336Do people often do end up crashing their planes into Chandelier's barrel in suicide runs?
>listening to the OST on it's own>it's as good as AC OSTs always areHonestly baffled at the people saying it's bad.
>>583474938>There are no war crimes in Strangereal.*ahem*
>>583481685who cares about the game awards? literal paid-for corposlop. if you spend your time watching that shit you're a moron
>>583483698people don't fly down the barrel at all
>>583483326>in some missiosn they just seem to barely ever fly straight and are constantly high-g u-turning so it feels impossible trying to line up shotsThis is always a hint that your plane is shit or you need to pull out a classic book of tactics and maneuvers to eke out an overshoot for them, or an undershoot from youOr fuck it turn and burn and force a joustOr 2x fuck it start PSMing and vulcan-ijg wildlyOr 3x fuck it fly to the ceiling and pull a gamey 180 nosediveOr finally just get the best plane you got and SASM lmao
>>583481265>>guy posts tweet>:|>guy posts tweet: JAPAN>haha :DDD epic japanese
I wonder how people would react if the US Air Force announced the adoption of an F-15 with a cockpit lined with cameras instead of glass and the pilot is hooked directly into the plane with a neural interface? You think the consensus would be positive or negative?
>>583475063Just remove attackers all together. Conflicts of the past 20+ years has shown them to be a liability in real life and in game.
>>583483860I watch it to seal clap for surprise announcementsEverything else is pcgamershow indie slop
>>583479204akschually 31 is the foxhound not the foxbat
>>583484130That does existIt's called flying a drone you goofball
All the cutscenes in the cockpits are going to be really cool when we get COFFIN planes. Everyone is gonna be talking casually in a super high tech glowing cockpits.
>>583484130Unless you can make it so that a plane can be piloted remotely I see no reason to ever do it.
>>583484160i can't be fucked to sit through the corporate charade parade. everyone posts all the good reveals on socials anyways
>>583484207Thank you nerd man, I did get the two confused (because someone else got them confused earlier and foxbat was in my head)>>583484130Planes should be flown by people.
>>583483326put the nose on them and kill him
>>583484130>Amerigolems getting their brains fried by Boeing branded neural helmsI think they should do it, desuBut no the more likely outcome is that they force the A-10 to be in service for another decade
>>583484039Sorry, where are the western devs making games like AC? PW doesn't count
>>583484435western game sales don't have successful sales so the best they can do is gaslight the "chuds" for their own failures
>>583484435Tom Clancy's CAWKS 3 soon tm
>>583484435ace combat is good, great even. glazing over tweets is just gay
>>583484435>Tasha would be the same, haggier, and literally more OP than the MC>The XO would be written like that bitch from Wolfenstein the new order (obviously not debra's fault)>Kate would be an ultra hag and western writers don't understand the nuance between being professionally and emotionally in control of the situation, and being a stoic unemotional girlboss
>>583484784Glazing really, I can't appreciate the dev team working hard and delivering product I enjoy?
The online would probably be better under a Western dev
>>583485032They should outsource it then, but don't let westerners touch the SP
>>583485032Monkey's paw curls.Gaijin gets given the rights.
>>583485032>onlineThis is 100% the case for any JP product when it comes to onlineJP can't into online
>>583476734Who the fuck is Queen?
>>583485032Any online under the thumb of bamco is doomed to suck ass.
>>583485320War Thunder is unironically one of the nicer games when it comes to F2P aspects and I feel fucking insane saying that with all its issues
>>583485470Who the fuck knowsMaybe moon11 since she has about 11 fucking different things she can be referred to
lol, lmao even
>>583445514https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GGfz-o5khc
Did I miss something or how did Tasha end up back on the endurance when the civvies were getting off? Is it just implied she snuck back on?
>>583485689I haven't heard anyone refer to "Queen", though? Am I stupid?
>>583479113Rafale makes Typhoon obsolete, again.>also gets LAAMs>gets LACMs instead of lock-stacking 8AGMs that let you get a whole 4 volleys off before you run out
>>583485829How the fuck did you miss the whole-ass cutscene where she flies up behind you
>>583485906rafales don't get the inflated A2A for LAAMs to be as good tho
>>583485943Yes I saw that, but did she steal the plane? Did she stowaway?
>>583485470>This moment will go down as That time 25% of /aceg/ outed themselves as too poor to play the game or literal vicarious players of the gameeuro trash hours
>>583486048What the fuck are you talking about? Kate is a separate option on that poll. Are you fucking stupid? Did you even look at it?
Been working through the US Navy plane line, will I encounter issues?
>>583485891No really though, the fucking dumbass who made the poll didn't play the game and doesn't know that queen is a squad and more relevantly, a reference to a card, much like joker refers to a wildcardBut I'm sure some fucking waifu poller wouldn't understand
>>583486025They can farm any type of target at any range, just put some damage upgrades on. It's actually ridiculous how good that Sp.W loadout is.
>>583454374>Emergency Sortie with the buddies>top scores are all aceggersAll is right with the world
>>583486207Then whoThe fuckIs queen, which literally doesnt match the other entriesYes I'm assuming based on at least 15% of the replies here it's genuinely>People haven't played thr gameSo some waifu poller is definitely high on my shitlist
>Thank you for putting down the LARPing cripple Rex. Now I am free to roam this earth (paraphrased JP dub quote)>sudden cinematic shot from CN tower to newfield island building to the space elevator, then to numerous places and military installations before ending up in an Enso smartphoneI know most anons here accepted the whole deal with Cope as spiritual newtype bullshit but what if it really was sublimination?
>>583486286YeahNamely they're boring as fuck>SU 34 has the ugbl, is an attacker, but because it has leading edge control surfaces can PSM>SU33 is one of 3 planes, and the only of its class to shoot rockets, which are pretty fucking fun, and naturally, it can PSMIf you want a smooth campaign experience with moderate effort you should have>A multirole carrier planeThe gripen I think is the best most versatile one and you can definitely sail through the game with it>Big aoe ground pounder that doesn't fly like assSo not the raptorAnd that's about it
are there any parts buffing ESM/ECM?
why
>>583486518To what end?
>>583486905>Buffing a buffing toolNo, just take it as the unique boon it is that you have extra slots to push your base missiles even further
>>583486286No, they're all good to great.
>>583486518That's what I presumed it was at the start of the story, like he somehow got Johnny Silverhand'd into our head. I wasn't expecting him to be a literal force ghost
>>583483998i guess i just am not familiar with how to coerce speeds from the opponent i jus tasume they are matching whatever im doing at any given time
You can tell who has or hasn't watched gundam based on their reaction to Cope.
>>583487309>Who everyone simultaneously rmembers as a fucking joke and the reason joker can't be taken seriously>And an embodiment of the wind
every game I say this time I'll use migs and sus first run and every time I somehow end up in the eagle. The fulcrum does fuck in this game
Where i can get ac 6 with all dlc now that the recompiled project is at 1.0?
>>583487534>You should be familiar with a franchise which has been shit for literally 10 years and counting>When concerning brand new concepts that literally never existed, have no basis, and aren't explained in a completely different franchise
>>583487775Wow almost like I didn't say any of that shit. Anyone who's watched gundam will be familiar with the idea they're going for with Cope.Try not being an autistic nigger when you die and become a ghost.
>>583454374Planelocked, sadly.
>>583487936Or maybe it's because based on being familiar with cope. The mechanics of a franchise make no sense and reach the exact same conclusion, dumbass
>>583488104The only thing you're familiar with is being a fucking retard.
>>583487563I think their opinions change when they learn he was Sotoan and was probably deliberately pulling his punches.The guy manuever kills a Shadow without firing a shot in the prologue, he was obviously a great pilot. They treat him as joke because he doesn't fight, not because he can't fly.
>>583487534Is voice in your head a common gundam trope? I liked it
>>583487936I have watched several Gundam shows and don't know what the fuck you or they were talking about regarding Cope.Far as I know he was just a generic-ass ghost.
Cope was an actual traitor and got what he deserved
>>583488104Whoops meant Gundam, not cope, had the two being used interchangeablyAlso meant dumbass, You're still a dumbass, any more % sure and I'd be going blind from the neural overload of processing the stupidity of your post
>>583488213Thought I hear people say 22's wingman in the prologue was a normal Sotoan?
>>583488226A big thing with Gundam is Newtypes, and those involve some amount of telepathy and dead Newtypes communicating with living ones from time to time. It's all part of the whole "humans need to understand each other" theme across the series. It's not 1:1 here, obviously, but it's a similar idea. The soul of a dead pilot communing with a living one, and the whole pilot Valhalla bit at the end. It's a familiar concept is all.
>Her career as a fighter pilot ended after she suffered crippling injuries in a duel with a female Yuktobanian ace, Tasha Severskaya's mother, paralyzing her left arm and lower body.Yuktobanian War Propaganda.
>>583488382Retard
>>583488213Idc unfortunately because realistically speaking if we're on our last legs in a war, a guy doing sick tricks while I'm getting shot at is getting zero sympathy, which all of queen flight correctly act accordingly as such in the first missions>>583488226In Gundam humanity's evolution is triggered by going into space, and even the strong emotions and wills of the dead manifest as ESP-like powers, foresight, and extreme empathyWhy that happens with cope more comes off as how you should feel in a situation and not necessarily anything else
>>583488598It's more a frankenstein of Gundam and the Japanese taking "talk to me goose" a little too literally
>>583488646Tasha's father was a real deal and we won't tolerate such slander. During the Sotoan-Yuktobanian war of 2010 he even flew with a legendary pilot known as the Dragon of Dojima who never killed anybody as he always targeted the non-critical areas of enemy planes ensuring safe bailouts of enemy pilots
>>583486949What plane is that ?If i had to guess, it's because it's an antenna and needs to not have any shit on top to change emissions.
How expensive do the high tier jet upgrades get? Flying the legacy hornet the 20 unlock is 30,000 with another 30,000 worth of blueprints
>>583486949its my peanus weanus
>>583489057
>>583488734Let's rewind back to your original post >Psh people feel a way because they aren't familiar with GundamThink about it
I guess the callsign Rex/King in itself is already one of the biggest signs that the Wings of Theve was a propaganda psyop? Everyone else has rather reasonable or in-joke callsigns
Tasha's father struck me a weird self insert for one of the devs
>>583487775>which has been shit for literally 10 years and countingI'm curious what you think the cutoff point for Gundam being shit is SEED Destiny was 2004 and they haven't released anything that shit in the past 10 years
>>583489602>Dresses like someone hit the rando button in Create a Character>Literally happens to be an expert in <<this subject>> at any given time>Had a kid with the lady who blew up the main big badHe's so relevant at any given time he might as well be god
>>583489697ZZ was 1986 and they haven't released anything that shit since
>>58348969710 bucks says he will either say ibo, gcuckk or witch despite the fact that as you said, it will never be worse than Destiny
>>583489697>Cutoff 00Everything else has been incredibly wasted premises and potential or a decay in traditional animation practices
>>583489602He's actually me
>>583487775>which has been shit for 10 years and countingwhether or not this is true, 0079 is pushing 50 and is constantly recommended, re-released, and referenced in everything ever>>583489862>it will never be worse than Destinynot disagreeing that destiny is bad, but it's not even the lowest point of the series, unless you're only talking about post Ɐ
>>583490195Unless you mean Twilight axis I have no idea how can it be worse than Destiny, I am not baiting or anything, what do you think is worse than the Kira and Friends show
>>583490195Yeah because 0079 is actually good>Get all the expository stuff squared away in a remarkably succinct prologueMeanwhile modern shit has been doing what zeta did>Character awkwardly spergs out exposition about the setting and the players at the drop of the pin like this is natural dialogue
ZZ is good during the episodes where you can tell Tomino lapsed back into depression>Torres' crybaby childhood friend fucking suicide bombs a Neo Zeon ship to make up for being a spy
>>583489832SEED is worse than ZZZZ's back half is at least watchable even if it still has retarded shit here and there plus SEED doesn't have the Qubeley so it's worse by default
>>583490398WingF91, for as pretty as it is, is completely incomprehensible
>>583490541ZZ suffers from>We're literally trying to do a mulligan with CCA and unicornLike holy fuck those two things have the exact same plot beats
>>583490742
>>5834904750079 has the same problems with exposition as Zeta, but it only has 2 factions so it's much harder to catch and both shows are good, 0079 is just more timeless
is the squadron still full?
>Now the thread is finally over.>I've got a waifu back at the catalog.>I'm gonna make an OP for her when I get back, I even bought a 4chan pass!
>>583491251I don't hate zeta, I just think the way it opens is much poorer than MSG
>tfw just want to do fun silly guns only dog fights in a fishbed against shadow 22 and his squad>have to slog through 30 minutes of bomber duck hunt every timeputting his fight all the way at the end of the longest mission was definitely a choice
>>583491337<< Warning! Unknown baker approaching with funny OP image! Bake! Bake! >>
>>583490694Wing really? Not one I would defend but what do you think makes it worse than destiny? Because for me Kira makes seed insufferable, even more than the mad libs wing plot
>>583491370it's a hard opening to beat
>>583492334the only good thing NT ever did was give us the sickest version of the colony drop yet
>>583488598is this really a gundam trope? I can't remember it in any of the main UC shows. At least not to the level of Cope. I really enjoyed him as this sort of Rorshach/Batman sounding spectre.
>>583491710WHERE IS IT
>>583492215i just dislike wing on a personal level
>>583492924>>583492924>>583492924>>583492924
>>583492729the biggest reason Amuro doesn't want to go back to space is because he doesn't want to have to hear Char's dead pajeet girlfriend talk to him
>>583492334Well not even just the visualsIt's amazing what a difference it makes when you have some guy just narrate the basics in documentary formatVsSome fucking titans guy looking at the screen while he shouts at kamille"We are not the bad guys, just because the AEUG says so and accuses us, earthnoids as being the bad guys!"
>>583493007Lalah is for amuroChar is their adoptive son lmao
Is there any indication the online may be less shit in future?I can't help but be put off by the lack of fun modes and the awful grind.
