>Latest patch:https://www.playdeadlock.com/cityneversleeps>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/https://deadlock-api.com/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/https://www.deadfrag.com/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>583416250
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Hero release order:Rat King > Danny > Baba > Solomon > Harrow > Violent
>>583446981
>>583446986Violet is gonna be 3rd or 4th probably 4th
Been winning 4 games against rat now with fern without sinclairjust poke the shit out him and start hunting him when he's boxing, he's free kill at lane even mid
>add cool map>people just run around deathballing until mid bossit's been like this since 2024, I'm convinced he doesnt know how to fix deathball. He added the timers to prevent guardians and walkers from dying too fast and that was the ONLY thing that slowed it down. But now people just ignore buildings until rejuvenator or significant #s of enemies are dead. It's so shit because the walkers delay the game with the timer + hero number hp additions.These people get paid 1 million USD a year btw
>>583447076Closed alpha dipshit
>>583446890hows the current patch?made the game any better or just fucked it up worse?
>>583447160shit
VOTEHARROW
>>583447160Deadlock has quietly become the only online game with a tangible future than necessarily better or worse
>>583447076I keep saying thisziplines are cool but too overpowered
>>583447076there needs to be counter-initiate heroes and items (currently its just Indomitable, lash,ratking and dynamo)and ratting needs to be more viable by redesigning zipline mechanics so you can cut creeps deep into the enemy lines and somehow disable the ability for the enemy to zipline back while you rat
>>583446890awesome thread name man
>used to play Vyper on old map>but now she feels completely unplayable cause of all the random fucking geometry on the map that interrupt slides and just fuck you up
>>583447076The other tpmobas also had death ball issues. I think what paragon did eventually was make a bunch of one way cliffs and put the teleports on timers so they werenโt always up. Deadlock has was too much movement for one cliffs tho
>>583447343>>583447330there needs to be an objective that lets you power down an enemies zipline or power yours upIdeally favored for the losing tean
whats a good hero to learn like macro oni've basically only played with a friend and just supported them but i want to learn like you know, when to farm camps, get bridge buffs, get sinners, etc etc and that needs waveclearso like a decent pusher/farmer
>>583447486Seven
JUST ADD GLYPH YOU IDIOTSTHERES A REASON DOTA HAS IT
>visibly see some worthless faggot paige literally run around the map, never group, refuse to play for 10 minutes>go afk>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO STOP PLAY THE GAME
Here are my suggestions for deathbal cuckery:>make creeps faster>add objective that speeds up a zipline>add objective that reveals the area of a map >ADD SMOKE OF DECEIPT
Thoughts on ratmaxxing spirit Rat King? I tried it one game but it felt kinda low impact on the damage front. Still won the game because of the ult of course
The ink stains on violets legs make me hard
>enemy team has Paige>literally can't fucking push ANYTHING cause of her dumb fucking spammable dragon unless we draft an ultbot like Lash or Dynamo or dive them in perfect unison from all sides >all because nobody is allowed to do meaningful damage from more than maybe 30 meters away other than Spirit nukers because Yoshit refuses to give us a proper Dota 2 Sniper expy that can M1 people from actual long range for actual meaningful damage (Vindicta and Talon tickle people beyond 30 meters with M1 and Paige shield just keeps their actual spells from doing anything)>it's fucking Dynamo stomp degeneracy all over again
>>583447447A lot of different ways you could finaggle it.Could add a TP scroll equivalent (Zip Tickets instead of bus tickets or something), everybody starts with a couple and get get them restocked on a timer or by finding them the in boxes/objectives or something. You could also make them cheap to buy at 100~ souls a pop if you really need one, you could even spend a second farming the soul fountain after respawning to make it cost nothing if you're willing to waste the time. Lose your T1 guardian it hands out tickets to the players on that lane. Lose the walker and riding that lane becomes free until the enemy walker on that lane gets taken.
People don't wanna admit it but the game needs wards. It's so fucking scary to try and farm against a deathball team. You just get jumped.
Well?
they need to stop neglecting warden
>>583446890I can stop gambling any time I want!
>>583447965https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0q7jcyZOxUI really like the vision wards from this video.
>>5834481031
>>5834481035. Legit.The only thing keeping this character in check at the moment is Venator and Sinclair that's really about it lmao.
>>583447965I've wanted them since I first got an invite. The fact they added eggs shows they're willing to experiment with consumable items so there's precident for them trying wards.Ward placement would be really weird in a 3d map like this so I would make them work like a Dota 2 scan. You buy the item, you go somewhere and then you use it which plants it under your feet. It creates a piller/spherebox around itself and when an enemy walks inside it the ward highlights itself and pings on the map without actually revealing who set it off or their true placement. Have the ward's lifetime either last through a timer or being activated X times.
>people yapping about a lack of a Sniper to keep people from turtling with utter degeneracy like Paige and Dynamo>people yapping about needing wards so deathball teams can't run around and freely jump people>look over at my hero concept I posted once that has both
>>583448248The only thing keeping him in check is retards building him wrong.
>>583448284Trying to repair faulty system mechanics with a hero that bandaids it just means that the team with that hero is no longer getting fucked by the system mechanics. They need to actually consider changes to the system, and I hope that the upcoming item rework is gonna try it.
>>583448103Tree fiddy
>>583448394As far as the wards bit is concerned just make TWO heroes that have them so there isn't a monopoly on it.
>rat kings in real life are a bunch of rats getting their tails tied up>rat king has a knot on his taildeepest lore...
Why does Mirage exist when Graves does everything he does twice as good?
>>583447072There is no chance in hell violet is beating out anybody but maybe HarrowCeleste came in 5th and she had a measurably superior design
>>583448501>>rat king has a knotBASED
>>583447757Ratmaxxing is the way to go. I think level of your rats impact the ult (since it also casts the ability), so ratmaxxing does in fact buff your ult as well.
>>583448453If the game had real ban/pick/draft then maybe I'd agree with you.Actually, if it had a real ban/pick/draft I feel like those two characters would just both get banned so then it goes back to step 1.
>>583448541That patch had graves and mina stealing gooners though
>>583448554musky knotted rat cock...
>>583448515>has no iframes or mobility>has no insta 2k damage after 5 seconds of shooting>has no heal half your healthbar with 4 charges >has no teleport across the maphuh
>>583448565Yeah that's why you don't give a draft mode. Just let Deadlock be the nu-TF2 where nobody gives a shit about comp. Compfags can go back to hero shooter sloppa and Dota.
>>583448589I don't think it matters that much desuInteresting characters draw votes, and sexual attractiveness is an alluring trait, but it's not enough to pull on its ownBesides, the goon vote is going to be split by the evil mommy gooners and Harrow
It's time to delete sinclair
>>583448692I never played ranked in Dota but even Turbo which is the babymode Street Brawl equivalent has actual picks and bans without it being draft.Every miserable matchup I've ever played in Deadlock would have been solved if they just let the teams pick the characters after matchmaking was done and everybody could communicate/see what the opponents were building their team with.
>>583447543>glyph so the deathball team has even more time to hunt for kills genius
>>583447543yeah the reason dota has it is because there are no ziplines or troovementmaybe play the game?
>>583447665none of those would help, the walkers and shit dont matter at all only mid boss matters. Not showing up to deathball just means you are giving up mid boss. You need to fight. No amount of ratting is going to help
>>583448832Reminder that the reason we donโt have draft is because a single streamer(and his cult)doesnโt want it
>>583448561But they cap at like 125 DPS and can be countered by dashing
>>583448284>>583448394>>583448453Jesus, we can't add wards to Deadlock. Wards are too strong of a mechanic, the second you add them you entrench them into system.It's like Healers in Overwatch. You can't have a support without heals in that game because healing is an entrenched mechanic. Ward's are the same in mobas.
>>583449027You get them for the minus armor effect, not their damage (the damage just mean you can use them to carry spirit debuffs like suppressor or healbane).
>>583448676none of the shit you said matters, its more about>stops you from playing the gameinhibitor effect on scarab, outclassed by essence theft and grasping hands>lane controlteleport, outclassed by tombstone>1v15x djinns stack (dispellable, spellbreakerable), outclassed by skulls + toxic bullets + tesla killing anyone in 2 seconds instead of having to wait 10 seconds for 5 djinn stacks
>>583449054Make them an objective you idiotDeadlock needs more objectices that dont give souls but some other macro advantage on the map
>people talking about wards and TP scrollsThe absence of TP scrolls and wards, the presence of ziplines, and the large open sightlines, are all interconnectedThe jungle/quadrants are kinda occluded but that's probably intentional so that ambushes can happen organically
>people are FINALLY realizing that ziplines are overtunedTold you fuckers this shit back in 2024
I think this guy is trying to get a rise out of me
>>583447248I'm doing it!
started blocking every deadlock account on twitter now my feed is pure deadlock porn
>>583449314Counterpoint theyre fun and cool
>>583449173An objective to secure map vision could be interesting sure. That's not really a ward though since it's at a fixed position and it's something teams would know about.With that said, is that gonna be a fun objective? I feel like it would just enable defensive play since people can farm behind their wards and ganking becomes harder. It would just reward an afk playstyle.
>>583449314why did they choose to make ziplines instead of a consumable 500 cost item that you can tp to walkers with, like they're retarded , no?
>3-13>On Rat KingHow? I'll tell you how their lane had fucking Vindicta.
>>583449514Because ziplines are fun like its that simple
>>583449054I think that Deadlock would benefit from having more defined class/role archetypes, and Valve can experiement with whatever they want without entrenching it. Just look at the rollercoaster ride that was all of the recent versions of Urn before what we currently have stuck.>>583449173This would work. Stick them in the Theater/Slum opposite the Belfry/Plaza,>>583449231I agree that it's all intentional but everyone being able to be everywhere so quickly gives the game a really oppressive rhythm. I like the new quadrants.
can they nerf this rat fucker already i am so tired
>>583449514TP scrolls are unironically way too fucking powerful, they're kind of like buyback in that the entire game ends up revolving around them
>>583449551cancelling TPs and TPing in someone's face with unstoppable/bkb is also fun
>>583449147>>583448515every time I feel bad about my skill and game knowledge /dlg/ is always there to write some of the most retarded shit ever and I don't feel so bad anymore
what if you could boobytrap the enemy ziplines
>>583449659A long time ago I suggested breakers you could melee to turn them off
>>583449753Fun idea but that would probably favor the winning team too much.
what if there was a setting so you couldnt get brown people on your team
what if later in the game the patrons summoned map wide spells
>>583449832CYYYYKAAAAA BLYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTT
its time to admit we need 2 avoids
What if the ziplines gave vision of whoever was on them
>>583449832>>583449892Heัะฅyะน ะฟococะธ
>>583446890You fucked up the thread retard
>mina with cheat deathwhat are you supposed to do in this situation9
>>583449821If you are winning then your zip line is already into the enemy territory and you are only disabling a short lineThe behind team could theoretically shut off a much longer line if they managed to get to it
It's time to admit we need a triple jump.
>>583449554I disagree about more entrenched archetypes. The current status is fine there. Remember that we got>m1 carry and caster>tank and brawler>support and pickWe got roughly three roles (dps, frontline, enabler), with one being the hard defined and the other the soft defined. Wraith is an m1 and Celeste is a caster. Abrams is a tank and Shiv is a brawler. Rem is a support and Paradox is a pick character.Many character's have aspects of being in one category but borrowing from another (Haze, Mo&Krill), and the only ones really hard to define I'd say are Sinclair, Graves and McGinnis.
WHAT IF WE HAD SIEGE CREEPS
>enemy teams buys multiple curses and silences and only use them on me when i play victorget reported for greifing retards
>>583449986I remember the good ol SMNC das when you could spend your money to buy a giant creep.
>>583446981Im gonna miss our ayyylmao when she inevitably gets turned into another generic sexy Asian chick
>>583450049>>583449986Unironically siege creeps would solve people ignoring lanes
>>583450091No lol they would just lose faster
>>583450021that is when you ask your team to buy DB for you
>>583449986we do, the nigga rift creeps
Nice thread subject
>>583447160Its the same dogshit just on a better map + rat king
>>583449960I recognize and agree with those archetypes, my problem is that all of the non carry/offcarry archetypes do way too much goddamn damage. Paige's Bookwyrm is a fucking warcrime, and similar things could be said for every other support that puts a bunch of bullshit on the ground.This I think is a completley unsolvable problem though because Valve decided to go with ability scaling like League instead of flat ability values like Dota where you have hard numbers you can balance around.
New cheat mod just dropped, Vindicta players rejoice
Doorman's Yamato Ult Lines should be in Japanese
>>583450206>implying a white could learn an asian language
>>583450184How she doin that
>decent in the first 15 minutes>fucking useless after thatwhat kind of balancing is this?
ONEMOREDAY
>>583450270That's because this game has a spiritslop bias so of course the one character that can't use spirit is useless
>>583449986zzrot my beloved..
>>583450283It's either Violet or Solomon.
>>583450328Rat king?
>>583447757you'll want a bit of gun, ballistic enchantment is absurd on his 2 as his ult means that you can almost guarantee a full 120% for every fight, honestly he feels like one of the most well incentivised hybrids the game has.
>>583450183I can agree that it's a bit odd that spirit damage increases as the game goes on. At the same time no one likes the gun meta.
Solomon is unfortunately guaranteed3rd I feel entirely depends on whether the russians voted for baba more or if asia voted for violet moreThen Danny catches up as 4th because all the Solomon voters go to him With Harrow being last...
>>583450758Don't be deceived by r*dditors who shit themselves an orgasm any time a nigger is on screenThe average player doesn't care that much about we wuz chess kangs
>>583450848I dont know NA is heavily solomon favored
>>583450848I've had games where half vote solomon and some type some shit like "yakub" definitely a meme pick for some
>>583450758>unfortunately
>>583450758no it's either violet or baba. the russoids want baba in
>>583447248Her tits arent that big you coomers
>>583451029yes they are troon
>>583450270Oops! You posted the wrong hero for that descriptor
>>583451126Fuark....
>>583450270>>583451165Both of you are using the wrong pic here is the right picture
>>583450270Ira domini does true damage
>>583451126goooooooooooooooon
>>583451126Imagine not voting for this dommy mommy, they must be faggots or mentaly ill or something like that
>>583447423Actually she feels better than ever cause all the random blessed geometry on the map that lets her keep her slide indefinitely
>>583451323>dommy mommyIt's prime cringe faggot simps like you that give characters like Geist and Harrow a bad reputation
>queue ranked as rat king with hero priority token>swap off once ingameit's that easy
>>583451323why do you people like women who boss them around?
Harrow is BUILT for paizuri rimjobs (free)
>>583451323I'll be voting for her once Danny is in. I don't care how big her tits are or how good her disapproving handjobs are, I want a jetpack.
>>583451390If Geist just doesn't give a f about you, Ms Harrow know what's better for you little boy. It's lore accurate
I like Violet.
>>583451287Shiv is useful at pretty much all stages if the player knows his strengths, AKA harass, soak damage and execute, all 3 of these things are good and only the harassment falls off a bit in very late game, but 80% of the roster becomes overshadowed at that stage, but he's still tanky and has an execute
Solomon better have a fucking fun skillset
>>583451589+15% damage against whites
>>583451589Itโs going to be high skill ceiling and they will feed hard every game, calling it now
>>583451589>we were kingz ult that turns him into a rat king
>>583451645sovl
>>583451589I really want a projectile that moves in an โ so I can hit dickheads around corners.
Violet will be the high skill hero of this batch
Does curse stop him carrying the flag?
>>583451323I want chess Yakub in first
>one more game before bed>mid kinda rough, holding on but only just>left lane feeds 7 deaths>right lane also feeds 7 deaths>both converge mid and rape us until we're more cum than manit seriously doesn't pay to launch this game sometimes
>>583451451i have a pegging kink
why does half the cast hate shiv for no easily discernable reason besides drifter who's his boyfriend or whatever
>>583451451Mommy issue perhaps
>>583450424He has something that scales with spirit on each of his abilities
>>583452090Being BFF with drifter is bad optics
do i just lose automatically if i have a warden or ivy on my team?
cosmetical is based
>>583450270venator is a dm machine late game but nobody farms on him like an off carry should so 99% of his players throw past 20 minutes bc he can't just mindlessly do one or the other like every other m1 carry
>>583452286Warden yes Ivy no
>>583452286Ivy's amazing
>>583451357Random geometry keeps fucking stopping my slides.
>>583452286>wardenyep probably worst character in the game after his nerfs>ivygun ivy? yes echo shard stone form ult ivy? nope
>>583452371What happened to warden?
>>583448589Mina was not on the OGNB vote, retard. She came with 6H
do you guys have that meme with rem and the fat characters
>>583452425How bad did he get it? I haven't played in a while and I tried fucking around with him in Street Brawl and it was miserable.
>>583452443He got nerfed and the items he likes got nerfed in the same patch.
I vote for Violet because I hope they add more pretty female characters to the cast
what if instead of a gravestone graves ult was she strips and sucks and fucks you hella dry
>>583452469
>>583452483He got absolutely butchered they nerfed basically every part of his kit and his gun (again)
>turrets keep getting insta-deleted and aren't allowed to ever be good>Gun build is ass cause you're immobile and don't get hard CC>decide to build around Rocket Barrage instead for once since the map has so much random high ground to sit on and bomb people from half the lane away on>pic relatedMaybe I should just play this on McGinnis from now on
>>583452371>>583452413>>583452425forgot to mention talon too, i dont think i have won a single game where any ivy warden or talon did a single thing all game god forbid you get all 3 on your team at once
>>583452456Fuck is that, I meant silver
>>583452562lmao ty
what's up with builds now listing rico for venator?
>>583452550i think this would blow and make her d tier
yamato being violently hateful towards chinks and gooks sounds hilarious to me for some reason
>>583452286the only time i've not seen an ivy player not be absolutely worthless is if they're clearly smurfing or are with a duo they're flying around the map
>>583452709Noone hates east asians like other east asians.
>>583452693
new rem ult idea: rem splits into 2. the 2nd rem is controlled by AI and will start pushing a random lane with his helpers. every time rem ults, each rem splits into 2 more rems
>>583452693gimmick bait, only useful for farming early previous patch but gutshot now works on camps so it's a 6.4k waste of an slot, ALWAYS buy siphon first, it makes you full auto abrams
>>583452709She is Korean
>>583452602>Talon isn't AoEslop so his Spirit build is worthless>his gun isn't good enough to build around since you still have to be within 30 meters (full auto BRRT character range) to do any meaningful damage even with Rain of Arrows and even then people can just dodge his shit easier than a full auto character due to low fire rateGee I wonder why Talon is so useless, it's almost as if he's been effectively phased out of the game, especially with how cluttered the map is now meaning less open sight lines for Rain of Arrows or his 1 anyway.
>>583452562NOOO REM YOUR PENIS ITโฆIT WONT REACH
>>583451589>he will never move walkers>he will be pocket with chess pieces
>>583452789You mean it blesses the melee since you can kick the creeps right?
>>583452813who, violet? shes japanese, and gooks are koreans
>>583452905yes + pushes them into a corner so you can melee/frag them all
>>583452748>rem aghs shard just spawns helpers on waves
>>583452856talon was ridiculously broken a couple months ago now no one gives a shit about him lel
>>583453029Rem aghs let's you tag along into an enemy and it builds up a sleep on them
>>583453192rem aghs makes him smaller each ult cast until you can barely see him
RKโs heavy animation is weird
>>583453386It looks really short because he's so big, it's the same range as everyone else. Also it's kind of uninspired, he should have a bunch of rats emerging and biting the enemy or something.
>Got Rat King in ranked>Switched off him>Now lobby is cancer freeFeels good
>>583453467so how do hitboxes work with mods that make people really fat
>>583453467>get rat king>enemy has sinclair>switch off rat king at the last secondGet fucked sinclair niggerAso>steals spells>is canonically a niggerLOL
>>583453565They're the same obviously is that even a question?
>no thread topicFaggot OP. Jannies are gonna freak and no one is gonna find the thread
How come the Mo Lester and 6Seven gets critical hp reduction but rat king doesnt despite being the largest head and body in the game
>>583449054>retarded opinion>overwatch analogy
How would you feel if you have to latch onto a zip line for at least half a second before you can drop off it?
as many pointed out before. the main problem with the newer casts voices is that they sound like regular humans. >Ratking doesnt squeak or do weird noises(though his accent is fun at least). Baba has no accent or anything. Danny is literally just the shopkeeper dude. Violet is an anime protagonist pretty girl.If a character like Seven was released as part of this batch he would have been just a slightly gruff sounding guy with no voice deepening or electrified filter. which is like half of his charm. i dont need every single hero to be quirked up but at least add something interesting to them when its obvious.
>>583453930they even removed rems squeaking lines
>>583453990What the fuck why, he is meant to sound like a mix between a caw and a squeeze like a crow rat
>>583454005holy fuck please have a cock
>>583453930Danny needs a voice filter like seven that makes him sound more skelly
>>583454005Always has a tattoo.
>>583454145that trashy shit really always ruins everything, i do not get it.
>>583454005amazing how badly a tattoo fucks up a woman's looksmight as well cut off an arm or have a giant open wound on your face
>>583453930Rat king is good, Solomon seems fine, Harrow is about what I expected, the rest seem shit
how the fuck does lash fly? do the wraps around his arms get shot through his gun to wrap around shit?
>>583454278gay men do great things
>>583453930Offer your feedback on the forums, unironicallyThese details are important
>>583453990I thought they just gave him new lines
>buy damage on silver>lategame can transform but a wet fart kills me>buy tank on silver>lategame can't transform even through 2 full ability rotations and just die as a humanWhy did they tie her transformation meter to some obscure damage dealt + damage taken metric instead of making it a flat bar that is consistent through the whole game like literally every single other mechanic that's remotely similar is beyond me
>>583454145>>583454236faggots
I JUST LOVE PLAYING DYNAMO. IMAGINE NOT RUNNING FROM A FIGHT IMAGINE WANTING IT
>>583454396women should be pure and clean, not have giant scribbles on their bodies
>>583454421sounds like every person I get on my teamthe new map has people putting their blinders on and turning their minimap off
>>583454421Dynamo IS the most important character in every single game that he is in. for better or worse.He can bring back a team that is 50k souls behind or he can whiff his ults and cause a practical 5vs6
>try rem for the first time>do basically nothing all game but supersonic run around the map and steal every sinner>only show up for like 2 team fights and barely even contribute beyond a bit of healing and an ult>end 0 - 0 -17>mvpi feel like im doing this wrong but whatever his slide animation makes me laugh and thats good enough i guess
>>583452365>venator is a dm machineWhat is dm?
Why do you have to beg your teammates to do things? 4+ enemies dead? They don't call rejuv or start to go there, they MIGHT show up if you spam "lets take rejuv" as many times as the game will allow you. Enemy double kill on lane with both players having over 50% hp? No tower push, just back off to do... nothing. Teammate jungling and could straight up stop the wave push on the walker in a shorter and faster amount of time it's taking them to jungle? Nah they're gonna let that walker eat 30% damage.I mean it's fucking crazy to me. Why does they always choose the worst option possible?
>>583454835deez mutts HAH GOTTEM
>>583454835Venator is a Direct Message machine, as he is a priest so he has little boys in his DMs
>>583454741imagine smashing rem under your foot and just wathcnig him explode liek a water blaloon
>>583454978rat king RPer
>m1>boring>win>spirit nuker>more fun>loseman
>>583453565They have a bigger hitbox obviously because they're fat. This is why you should mod every hero to be fat.
>>583454005>>583454396Doorman if he wasn't designed for faggots and fujos
>>583455062more fun M1s would be nice
>>583454396>>583454005Amazing how much photoshop and makeup is used here, she might as well be AI generated
10 games and every single time rat king is on the enemy when am i gonna get this retarded fucker on my team?
>>583446890Anybody else experiencing weird input delay and buffered keyboard inputs in game after the patch? I've tried 2 different keyboards now and still get this problem and it's driving me crazy. mouse not affected.
I hope they nerf rat king by gently tweaking his values as opposed to obliterating one of his skills and forcing him to contort his entire identity into some obtuse shit that doesn't feel fun or interesting to play
>>583454396I don't even hate tattoos that much, it's just funny to me how every internet prostitute has one.
>>583454278Enslaved air elementals, or something
>>583455471People already discovered that he is the shred king. If they nerf his ult, he's going to be a shredbot.
>>583455302just counter him with and
>>583455302never because you trained the eomm that you are fine with continuing to play against him
>>583454278He's a dockworker that is so athletic he's basically spiderman. He throws out a pully rope which hooks onto somebody and then he just pulls hard enough to heave himself into the air.Either that or it has something to do with airships in the setting using some sort of zephyr/wind magic.
>>583455471I want them to remove the DR on his ult so they don't have to 2x the CDgive it something else I guess, it's just too fun to use
>>583454383>instead of making it a flat bar that is consistent through the whole game like literally every single other mechanic that's remotely similar is beyond meThe midwit's deserve to reinvent the wheel even though no one hero would have a mechanic like it so she'd still be unique anywaySilver shipped quarter finished, got targeted by armchair game designers calling her busted (which was never proven by any metric), Yoshi nerfed her into oblivion and then just left her unfinished and shitty.I really don't think people realize how big of a problem it is that Valve showed that they cave completely to "influencer" pressure, certain heroes are simply not allowed to be buffed (Paradox, Silver, Shiv off the top of my head) while all the shit the ecelebs play are allowed to be permanently meta viable and strong in any patch.IceFrog was a retarded faggot for caving to the demands of pros and Yoshi is doing the exact same error
>>583454843>Nah they're gonna let that walker eat 30% damage.I watched a Mina on my team today lets a walker die from 100% to just creeps, while she was 20 meters away meleeing jungle creeps.I pinged it , nothing. I asked nicely in chat for her to go do something. Nothing. She didn't even go get the wave after the walker died. She willingly gave up like 1000 souls to somebody else and let a walker die to get 200 souls from a camp.I wish I could mail anthrax to this person. What the fuck is wrong with them? Why are they even playing this game? How did they even manage to install the game?
Do you think posting hero feedback on the forums actually does anything?
>>583455813what do you think?
>>583455813There are anons here that claim they read it, but I've made like 20 posts and I'm the only view. Those are paid insiders I bet.
>>583455813do you think the devs read the forum posts outside of day 1 bug reports on big patches?
what character should I play if I hate Israel?
any transbians here who want to duo rp mina/pocket? :3
>>583455931Have better feedback.I've even gotten some thumbsups on these from devs.
>>583455957MnKRat king
>>583456121those are like the most jew characters in the game other than haze
>>583455957mirage
>>583456149Bebop is an actual golem though
>>583454843For the same reason after you get rejuv you need to actually tell people "Can we group up as 6" otherwise they will just go off and farm and doing fucking nothing.As if you should be doing ANYTHING else after you take rejuv than grouping as 6 to either take their base or take over their side of the map and farm it before taking objectives.Just saying to people "lets go mid" and "lets push" as if they don't fucking understand what they should be doing works, but fuck is it frustrating that people seem to not understand.The worst is when you get retards who try to argue back about why this obviously correct choice is actually bad because they are way too weak, you just need to repeat the thing and do it anyway and let them cry in the corner, but jfc is it annoying having to deal with spastics who never want to actually do anything.
>>583455957free transistine
>>583456301>kill half the enemy team>mid isn't up>say to start pushing remaining walkers>there is always one or two retards that decide it's a great time to take our own jungle when half the enemy team is dead and they can't fight back at least take their jungle what the fuck are you doing
>>583455957Celeste, Silver, Pocket, and Mina, aka the tranny leftist group
>>583456272golems are not jews, they are their servants
>tfw no italian hero
>>583456492mina is definitely not a leftist
>>583456445Even if they came to the walker they wouldn't actually fucking hit it anyway.These are the same kind of retards who go there, and then stand outside the range you can hit a walker in, and just throw pokes that barely do anything at the nearby enemy heroes, just doing basically nothing.Playing someone who can take buildings quickly so you can just HIT THE FUCKING BUILDING and force the enemy to do shit is just so valuable.So if they go jungle and don't contribute, who cares, because I truly believe if they came they wouldn't have done fucking shit.
>>583456272Bebop is a Jew, he's not JewISHBebop is African American through adoption, and they are the real Jews Impostors are JewISH
>>583456524Fuhgetaboutit
>>583456570wise statement brother....very wise....
Solomon's out tomorrow
Nurse's out in three weeks
>>583454741Enjoy having the fastest movespeed in the game too, he has 4ms sprint speed at base. I like to build fortitude heroic trophy and juggernaut on him and I become lightning
>>583455471Just have the resistance only be on the planted flag and have the resistance diminish exponentially faster over the duration
>>583456445>there is always one or two retards that decide it's a great time to take our own jungleWhy does this always happen?
gets pretty tiring being the key player every single lost match
what character should I play if IM A STUPID DUMB FUCKING NIGGER
>3-4-3 in 30 minutes >the poorest fucker in the game Why woule he even play it
>>583457320Calico, Haze, Vindicta
>>583457320Victor
>>583457320Shiv You can go 0/20 but as soon you get into a team fight you just mash 2 and win
>>583457320Vic and mo
>>583455931>>583455950>>583456108>>583455813you have to 1) have good feedback/title so they bother clicking on it 2) be on the hero or topic they're interested in reading about at the moment 3) be luckyI think only one dev has interacted with the forum directly other than yoshi for me and that was for apollo. Also keep in mind they might be using AI to filter posts so even if they dont click on the thread your feedback may end up summarized Maybe they've given up on the forums for now, but with the new patch they may read more
>>583456108>Have better feedback.I pointed out how to make movement smoother and more consistent in the old map by addressing some collisions on the map, but I guess that's not good feedback.
>>583455957Venator, Yamato (explicitly says "I fucking hate rats (jews)" after killing Rat King (Jew King), Seven, Drifter
They definitely have some sort of filtering going on on the forums, imagine how much incoherent retarded bullshit they get from retards mad they got banned or lost to 1 hero
Do you think people WL and stats will be reset on 1.0?
>>583457693This was two years ago at this point (holy fuck this game still isn't out? what have I been doing with my life) but Yoshi thumbs upped a post I made bitching about Haze deleting absolutely fucking everyone and turning into a one hero deathball with her ult.
>>583450065i hope the presence of marionette creeps suggest they are some part of the lore and she will stay as some kind of living Bunraku doll. puppet shenanigans like in Fromsoft games is kino.
>>583456149Rat King is italian american
afterburn is now a static 1 second durationbullet damage growth increased a bitafterburn can now be extended to the old 3 - 6 second duration only on targets hit by Napalmessence theft changed from stealing weapon damage and spirit resist, to stealing movespeed and 50% of any healing received as long as the beam is connectedplot armor can no longer be self targeted, t5 upgrade can still bounce to yourselfsmoke bomb no longer has charges, duration increased a bitsanguine retreat is no longer castable during nox nostranot hitting any enemy or ally hero with puddle punch increases the time between charge restoration for the next castsoul exchange cast animation increased to 0,5 secondsi just fixed the game for the next 6 months
>>583458064Cringe, they should make it so puddle punch only targets enemies but can be alt-cast to target only allies
>>583458064>plot armor can no longer be self targeteddumbest shit I've heard in a while
Does mystic burst count as a different source of damage for scorn or does the burst damage get included for the heal?
you guys always talk shit acting like you know how to design kits more than icefrog, if you are really great then rework Holliday's kit but keeping Crackshot
>>583458230>self armor>divine barrier self>echo shard plot armor again>2400 shield HP, not counting any bullet/spirit resist 1600 shielding itemsPaige is supposed to be a squishy but strong backline hero, not a powerful spellcaster who has more EHP than an Abrams
What logic could there be for Silver only having 3 stamina?
>>583455957nurse harrow because sheโs a jewish doctor
>>583458527She should get another pip when she ults
>>583451645he mains white though
>>583458372Included thatโs why they rush it and go tankbuster early
Your bets which of the old cut characters became ones we gothttps://youtu.be/rr0SJSdBhFw?si=iDhWMH0YXt9kB1z3
>>583458589>another pipWhat
>>583458527Silver only has 2 Stamina
>>583458737Danny has tokamaks gun I think.
>>583451820Its just a nigger, not Yakub. Valve would never make an actual Yakub character.
When are they nerfing rat king ult?
>>583458527You're expecting an alcoholic slob to be athletic?
>>583459047mickey mantle was a drunk
>>583458878I wouldn't be surprised if the whole tokamak had simply become Danny. Looking back, his kit would actually have been a good fit for him.
>>583459036at some point this week probably today or tomorrow with BABA coming out they weren't working on the weekend
>>583458695I can't remember is the proc for tank buster based on your outgoing damage or the damage they take after resistances?
>>583459109mickey was an athlete tho
>>583458812Pip of stamina
>>583458737So both Silver and Drifter gained Shiv abilities. They really didn't know what to do with him huh?
nobody cares bout shiv
Is the whole drifter/shiv lore thing where they were friends and co-killers in the past something they introduced with the new update, or was that always in-game?
>>583459603I played him yesterday
>>583459689Shivs background as an ex-monster that people still don't trust was already there but I don't think he was specifically linked with drifter.
>>583459689The fact that they knew eachother from before was implied but not elaborated upon.Both Silver hating him amd Venator not trusting hos change of heart was also already present
>finally get my Rat King game>enemy team is a bunch of shit that just runs and jumps away like Lash, Grey Talon, and Mina>I don't get to fucking do anything cause I have no hard CC so I am relegated to just shooting objectives while our Warden, Sinclair and Seven pop off using their hard CCsMovement sissy heroes shouldn't exist, this shit's boring. Mobility should be item-only.
>ivy>rough game, but we have an advantage>the enemy is down to their bare patron>we lose a turning fight and we're pushed into our base>it's looking bad, but we might have a slim chance>our doorman fucking DCs>we hold anyway, barely surviving>we manage to push them back out>we're now 5v6>we fight genuinely as hard as we can but we're down a fucking doorman>in spite of everything we lose by a fucking gnat's hair>all because doorman thought he knew the game was overTHIS IS WHY I NEVER EVER WANT TO HEAR A SINGLE FUCKING ONE OF YOU RETARDED KEKS ASK FOR A SURRENDER FEATURENONE OF YOU ARE CAPABLE OF READING WHEN A MATCH IS OVERNOT FUCKING ONE OF YOU
I feel like duration on ive kind of fucks me over since that extends the duration you stair airborne in stone form, giving them more time to dodge it
Who's the king of the rats, baby!Who's the king of the rats, baby!Who's the king of the rats, baby!
>>583459603he's one of the most popular characters in the game.
I'm lowkey buying Heroic Aura over Escalating Resilience now.
i just got a job for 25k for an oil shipping tripwhen i come back i will play again
sex with shiv
>>583460638congrats Anon, hopefully the meta will stabilise by than.
>>583457514they've definitely given up on the forums from all the subhuman russians posting their valuable feedback.not even AI can help them dig through all that garbage.
>>583447447Ziplines get powered up for the winning team when you destroy the base towers.So currently, zipline's are a winner's mechanic.Dunno why people want to nerf ziplines. Sounds stupid to me, it's just gonna make it harder to end games.
>>583459047Silver is canonically athletic, she's athletic enough to dash forward and kick back MoKrill, Abrams, Bebop etc and launch herself from themI'm fully convinced that my "headcanon" of her lycanthropy making her superhuman is canon, she canonically has an advanced sense of smell too in human form and I bet she can drink inhuman amounts of alcohol because of it tooShe's partially transformed at all times, bitch has a giant fluffy tail
>>583461140>Dunno why people want to nerf ziplines>it's just gonna make it harder to end gamesThat's why.>Sounds stupid to meEh maybe, I prefer slower games but it would be agony if on the team with the most bad players.
>>583459689It was in the game from the start. Back in the day Sapphire/Amber used to say Shiv was a criminal. Once Drifter got added he had voicelines showing familiarity to Shiv. Silver hated his guts on release. Vyper admires Shiv's knife work.I'd say it's likely that Shiv was in a Spike Spiegel sorta situation. Heavily criminal hitman, but he probably wasn't a serial killer like Drifter. Him getting involved with Drifter probably also is how he got saved by Grey Talon.
Yam-remodelbros, when will our girl finally get updated? In a week? In 2 years?
>>583459926Been telling people that Rat King shield is balanced the fact that he's a slow fat fuck with zero hard CCs, his niche is planting himself on objective and being a hard fucker to peel out.He's bad at ganking, he's bad at chasing and he's bad at confirming killsAll the retards are saying to nerf his 3 but buff his gun too but that'd kill the character BECAUSE ALL YOU HAVE TO DO WITH RAT KING IS MOVE AWAY TO AVOID HIS DAMAGEHe's got no value outside teamfights, he's literally free kills at lanes and midgames if your M1 isn't a mouthbreathing retard
>>583461347Bro people already struggle to end the game at the 40 minute mark, do you want the game lenght to be in the +60 eange just because the winning team can't finish the job?Jfc
>>583461459this game is being shut down in a few months xister.....
>>583461459Release I'm fine with this and have grown to love the Blue Alien
>>583461534>Bro people already struggle to end the game at the 40 minute markThat's because they're macrolets and retarded. It would be nice if you could actually catch people inlane without their whole team being able to zip on top of you.
>rat king bomb seeks enemy players through walls in a 50 meter radius meaning it'll lead you right to them if you're looking for someonewhy though
>>583461762claude why does rat bomb work like this
>>583461692>call other people macrolets in the same sentence as he complains about being caught out by multiple other peopleYou realize how bad this sounds right?
>>583461863in no other moba can an enemy team instantly get from spawn to lane so fast. The Zips massively trivialise the game stop being obtuse.
>>583459251Outgoing
>>583461459I unironically hate this pixar ass kpop demon hunters lookin shit
the only thing i don't like about zips is the retarded trick where you hop on it and get off of it instantly for a speed boost.the turbo zips are there to punish you for losing your base guardians. it's not a "win more" mechanic so much as it is just accelerating the team that's going to win to end the game faster.
Urn should give less souls but give a one time radar pulse that lasts for like ten seconds.
I still don't understand why Celeste doesn't just pay off Lenny's gambling debt using her ass, this is just bad writing and characterization
>>583462229If a unicorn gets raped it loses its magic powers, by that logic she could just sell her horn
>>583462312grok if a unicorn gets raped does it lose its magical powers
>>583462312it wouldn't be rape
>>583462312Unicorns are literally a symbol of purity
>>583462528celeste is definitely not pure
>Venator>Wraith>VictorUntil what rank can these characters take me?
It took Yoshi just about 3 days to completely nuke Silver with nerfs, compare that to RatkingRelease:https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450/view/5152335487188353461st nerf:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/01-30-2026-update.102822/#post-198653What's the difference between these 2 heroes? Ratking doesn't have retarded ecelebs calling for his head.The game's "balance" is based ENTIRELY on the feedback on a handful of 70 IQ ecelebs who have all of their mongoloid opinions validated by their sycophant fans and I AM SICK OF IT!
>>583462697the fuck are you talking about? everyone hates rat king's ult right now.
your squishy backline support, sir
>use spell/item that silences movement abilities on wraith>oh wait she already cast her teleport so it resolves anyway :^)haha such a fair hero :)
>>583462869oh Paige is squishy alright....squishy in all the right places
>>583462756>Until what rank can these characters take me?hello european person
>>583462027If you dive someone in dota2 you might have 1-3 tp:s on your ass within a second. What moba are you playing?
Are people seriously asking for Sinclair nerfs?He's only good because Ratking is busted, Sinclair is just a mirror against the actual broken heroes
>>583463556For some reason there is a small group of people who never tried to play him that constantly cry for him to be nerfed and reworked. Maybe these people all main dynamo or something.
>>583463556Bunny is one of the best abilities in the game
>>583463640Yea I'd be willing to bet money those people have never played Sinclair
>>583463556I mean, his kit does seem kinda overloaded. He has no real weakspots and bunny is one of the best midboss contest buttons in the game without even being a ultimate.At the same time, I'm not gonna argue that a sub 50% winrate hero is busted.
>>583463556They need to buff Bolt Sinclair
>>583462528Unicorns are also all males since they answer to the call of fair maidens
>>583463556All his spells are broken
>>583463650it IS the best non-passive ability in the gameliterally just a non-channeled black hole
>>583453467someone can see this and just switch onto him though?
>>583463810Bunny should be dispelable. That's about the only nerf I'm willing to hear.He can't carry games on his own even against a Dynamo. He can style on your ass for 40 minutes but if hiss carries are sucking their own dick there's only so much he can do
>>583463810>He has no real weakspotsHe's made of paper, if you're getting folded by Sinclair then CC him and he's dead
>>583447160ratking is fun but he'll get nerfed dont bother the game is still entirely coinflipping over mid boss
holy fuck zergy is annoyingi just wanna watch a guy play rrrrrat
Wash my belly
>>583463552And they are limited to a tower (without rushing an item) as oposed to being the whole lane at every stage of the game, there is no momentum system that let's anyone propell themselves forward ontop of you with no items, and they have a channel giving you a chance to back off.
>>583464631you could be stuck with eido
>>583464781Yes, but people also can't teleport by touching the tether. If you cam't kill someone in the 20 second window you got before the reinforcement arrived, then you literally just missplayed.And frankly thats giving you a lot of benefit of doubt, factually tether can't save froma gank. Likely you are just a macrolet who can't read the map state and you show on map as you try to jump the guy who had 1-2 hovers IN THE SAME LANE
what the fuck is a crum bum
>>583465037most normal waisan
>>583465090a goy
>no rat tsunami ability One job, valve
How is max rat shred with headhunter not just the build with ratking, I guess it's more finicky than just ult and shield spam
>>583465129he's latasian
>>583465053pure projection at this point, point is that they make it significantly easier than TP scrolls do. Hell at a point you needed to waste an item slot for them too which was HUGE.
>>583465090an objectionable or foolish personbasically just an idjit
>>583465090they don't wipe.
>>583455489cuz they're hot
>>583454396doorwhore
>>583465316You don't need to use a item slot for tp:s in the current state of dota2. I think you even get a free tp on every death nowadays, but its been a pair of years since I last played it.But seriously though you are just making up shit at this point. If you are getting counterganked its not because of the tethers, it's because you are missreading the map state and blaming game balance instead of accepting fault.
>>583465880noooooo that's not the 4chan consensus tattoos are...le bad1!!
>>583455813Yes.
>>583464631Are there any decent Deadlock streamers who aren't annoying as fuck and are fun to watch? They're all obnoxious or a dickor they at least have a hero pool I don't care about watching because they're all carry spammers
>>583466987renon parzeionzzzerial
>>583466987I've been wondering the same, out of all games I'm into, Deadlock has the worst crop of streamers, they're all dickheads, on stimulants, dickheads on stimulants, furries or they don't play heroes I care for.Everyone who streams this game plays lame carry heroes that are always viable and strong and I'm tired of it
>>583466987only MikaelS, but he quit streaming so you're out of luck
Whenever this game comes out of beta and they actually push it with it's own international they aren't going to hire on the retards running nightshift right? Going through a TI VOD they actually got production value on that shit.
>>583467330I'm hoping but not expecting it to get better when we move toward "actually a real game" status like in open beta or maybe when Valve decides to announce Deadlock TI in 2-3 years.sort of like how our pro scene is basically LAN center locals because it's just the same bunch of screwballs playing their own meta each week
troovement is ruining the game.
>>583467214>renon>parz>zzerialall m1ggers bro
>>583467918Correct, I can't wait for them to fix all the retarded movement bugs.
>>583466056you're not argueing in good faith.
Remove cheat death from the game.
>>583467918A few of us realize this, troovement is way too strong and too obscure, it will be a massive filter when they game goes live, normalfags are gonna see that, go "how the fuck do you do that?" look it up, see the absolute autism and joblessness required and not bother with it, which is bad because people need that thing to chase if they feel like it's obtainable, if they don't have that then the influx of new people into the game dries up and the playerbase eats itself like what happened to Dota
>>583455813Yes Yoshi literally replied to one of my posts about Shive once. Get wrecked.
>>583461459I unironically love this pixar ass kpop demon hunters lookin shist
>enemy Vindicta>fucking hyper aggressive menace that doesn't miss every single time>ally Vindicta>useless passive retard that can't hit the broad side of a barn and building wrong items, every single time
>check announcements on the official discord>last 2 yoshi messages are red and i can't react to themWhat's this? Anyone else see this?
>>583468683gj thinking for yourself anon!
>>583468753ur banned nigga
>>583468808thanks!
violet on tuesday!!!
>>583469317foot plapping
>>583468131I'm arguing in good faith to the extent I can argue against a fairly strawmanned assumptiom that assumes the ziplines are much faster than they are.Factually, the zips are not fast enough to genuinly bail someone out if they get ganked. If you find your ganks turning into skirmishes its because you failed to account for the fact that in mid- or lategame, good players will intentionally hover players exposing themselves to ganks. You didn't fail because you got blitzed by a zipline, you failed because the enemies were faking weakness.
>nigger rivals "creators" quitting because only asian/white characters get skins on rivals (just like literally every other game) so its racist>they're coming to deadlockkek this is going to be funny when they realize this is 10x worse than rivals
>>583469317They'll never make me hate you violet
>>583469875You are argueing in bad faith because you keep making this about me instead of the fact ziplines trivialise things. Removing boost would solve this mostly, or at least making boost something you need to buy.
>>583469973I thought it was some drama where they moved around the report buttons so they assumed you can't report people for spamming nigger anymore?As if the report system in this game isn't broken to only go off if you have a group of people spamming reports at you, so slurs will get by when 10 or 12 players laugh, but you telling a six stack to kill themselves will get you low prio'd
>>583470110I make it about you because your evidence is anecdotal and I don't see it represented in my own game, high mmr lobbies or comp.I've never heard a comp player complain about zip speed.Conclusion: you aren't reading the map and acting surprised when the hover jumps you
>>583468338The only tranny movement that is even remotely intuitive is what they call "edge boosting" even though it should clearly be fucking called corner boosting, because calling it "edge" anything goes against all of the other "edge" related source bugs in relation to where you hit a mesh with your character model.
>>583470157dunno but blacks are always so dramatic. mabye if they didnt do so much crime in litearly every place theyre in ppl wouldnt be that racist
The one troovement tech that I genuinely don't get is the one where constantly swap between regular walking and crouch sliding on the ground, in a way that just makes them look like they're slav dancing
Where is the setting that makes soul orbs more visible? Against all the darks on the new map I can't see them before they activate and if fucks up my last hitting.
>>583471194You just spam crouch when you have a high enough move speed
>>583471194it's just going fast enough where you can do it. It doesn't actually do anything for you speed wise.
>>583471194it doesn't do anything. in fact if you it wrong it slows you down.
>>583458064Literally all of these suggestions are fucking terrible, kill yourself
Are the other new heroes going to be as busted as rat king?
>>583471194It doesn't really do anything useful nowadays, unless you can get enough movespeed in combat to do it on flat ground and roleplay as vyper with infinite slide ammo, but I don't know if any hero can do so nowadays. I remember back when the game first went public Ivy could do it while her 2 was active, but it got nerfed.
>>583458064Watching these kind of posts is always so refreshing because it reminds me that Yoshi isn't as much of a retard as we delude ourselves thinking and we should be glad that it's him in charge of this game instead of someone like this
>>583472648Probably more
>>583472648Harrow will probably be busted because she's a support. Possibly one with a revive. That's either broken or maybe she's reviving people in shit positions and throwing games by double feeding her own teammatesVi or Sol could have something stupid in their kit. Baba maybe has a hex and it'll be on a character that's not as crusty/matchup dependent as Sinclair.Danny is a tossup. Depends on how his flight works, how his gun overheats and how it fires normally, and if he has a kamikaze then he's just feeding all game.
>>583473649>and if he has a kamikaze then he's just feeding all game.I'd expect his kamikaze dive, if it does actually kill him, to not give out souls to the enemy and massively reduce his respawn timer
>>583473918It's time for proxy Danny
>>583451287>t. RetardEarly game is Shiv at his weakest as soon as you hit midgame he becomes a god
>>583473918>Death Maxxxing is D Man and Vic.
Ready for Danny to be Lash's grandfather and have his same exact personality
>>583473918I will be cancer ratting if Danny just has Junkrat's kamikaze ult
got a rat king on my team who used his ult exactly once in a 40 minute game, and it was in our base at the very end when the enemy came to finish us offit really is possible to lose with this hero, you just need some supreme mental retardation
>>583476685based and honest
>>583474159>Oracle bubShiv is literally only good till people start buying slowing hex and dispel which is usually after 15mins
>nice, even, back and forth game>key player at the end
>>583473918>flyer m1gger that can deny himselfeven bigger rat than the rat kang
>>583472648Rat King wasn't even as broken as release Victor and Celeste>But winrateIts his ult that's problematic. Celeste and Victor's whole kit was problematic.
dont you get it they do lots of things!
Harrow is going to have the most problematic release because she has some kind of cheat death/revive ability.
>>583479383>possible healing/debuffing m1>possible pudge shard/tahm kench devour>possible revive abilityShe's def going to be the most broken. hoping she at least takes mechanical skill and isn't braindead.
>>583479383INB4 her ult just gives a friend the equivalent of the Cheat Death item. INB4 her playtesters were retarded and it ends up being on an 80 second base cooldown
mathematically, is Bullet Resilience a waste against wraith?
>>583480397If you are a tanky hero its alright. Won't save you late game though
>>583480397You need plated armor for Wraith. Wraith's card gen is based on dealing ANY weapon damage so she's just going to throw a million cards at you and you die anyway.
>>583480645the best counter is honestly disarming her because all her damage types are mixed.
>>583480262Cosidering rat king current ult got past private playtest I believe it
even though it's one of the easiest skill shots, landing Haze's dagger feels so damn good. helps that it constantly surprises me how often it lands a killing blow against critical targets.
>>583465279Can't craft a proper build yet because it's impossible to queue up as Rat King. He's already busted before any build optimization though.
>>583481785memeing around with spirit haze and echo shard is fun. 800~900 damage per dagger combined with punch items. Only issue is you assassinate one target and become worthless for 30s lol
>>583480397bullet resist is a waste against everybody
>>583482615I would argue that both res are core on rat king since you can pop shield at less than 50% hp
anybody else not able to swap to teammates while dead by left and right clicking?
>>583482615You buy it as a tank hero if you get a lead on the enemies gun heros in early midgame.This lets you relentlessly bully them.It's not a good option for when you are getting farmed by gun heros. You need metal skin or disarm for that
>>583482940they changed it to F1-F5 for no fucking reason.
>>583483085f1-f5 always swapped cameras even when you're not dead.in the options and on the screen it still says in the top right to click to swap to a different player (it worked for me 1 game yesterday too). seems like a bug
gunshit ruined deadlock
gunshit saved deadlock
The lazy kit design ruined deadlock
>>583481785โEasiestโ when itโs one of like 3 actual skillshots in the game drifter mark bebop hook haze dagger ALL the rest are charged spam hitscan or aoe
>play Rat King>start up ult>Lash immediately yanks me up into the air then slaps me back down>start up the ult again>someone throws a curse on me, tank that shit and keep running with the flag>plant it and win the teamfight anywaythat Lash was fucking indignant in chat about it and honestly I would be too, Rat King really shouldn't get that shit back for free like that
>>583483979>bro what if we made rat kings ult completely uninteractable? t. Yoshi
just remove rat king.failed character in a failing game.
>now Sinclair will be nerfed because of the Rat King niggerit's so fucking over
>>583486327im always amazed at the troon art you americans manage to produce at a massive volume
>>583483979Happens with every single ult in the game, I can't count the times I stopped dynamo ult as it started only for him to cast it again immediately
what actual good character design looks like. take notes sweet baby inc valvebabs
>>583486465That's literally a husband and wife in a single body. That's a decent way to represent that, I'd say. But l like the idea of changing the model every death, just like how the speaker changes.
>>583486465I'm going to reverse search that image right now, I bet the artist isn't american
>>583486884geist if she young
>>583486465That looks bad, but it's not off the mark conceptually. Sinclair's model definitely going to be something that says that there are two people inside of that mannequin. Right now it just looks like Henry.
>>583486327I wonder if redesign could be sinclair changing his design between female and male after respawning
>>583487662>>583486465lol
>>583486465>>583487662>>583488060*pptthfhfhthhhtttfff* fart soundfucking faggot retard
>>583488163>>583488060i dont even know what that country is but their avatar seems white
>>583486980IT'S OVER
>>583488282you are so fucking dumb and brown kys
>>583486327These half and half designs always look like shit and work against the narrative with shit like the assistant skill.
>>583488294I TRIED TO BE NICE
>>583488424when does shiv actually ever try to be nice? why does he lie?
>>583488282It's Lebanon. Good concept, but needs better execution. The tree is too complex and will look different every time someone redraws.
>>583488282It's Lebanon you fucking moronic piece of shit
>>583483924bring back Geist bomb stick and gut it's range.
>>583488494Yoshi no! Rat king is the problem! Not sinclair.YOSSSHIIIII
>>583488584>>583488586appears to be some huwhite country like italy or spain
>>583488876It borders Syria and Israel, you fucking retard.
>>583469317violetrannies don't actually play the game. She's not getting in anytime soon.
>>583488954why are you so mad i just looked up google images and they look like italian/greeks
>>583482765ratkings shield specifically states in the tooltip that it does not get affected by resists
>>583488876>>583488954>>583489051Lebanese are White just like Jews are.
>silver is so hot bro!
>>583489632correct
>>583489356>White just like Jews*loud incorrect buzzer sound*
>>583491665arr rook same to me
>>583486884chink garbagekill yourself anime nigger
>>583492820Go back tourist.
did they say anything about remaking the old characters? Besides that there is not much left before the game is ready for open beta
welcum to deadgock here are you're new characters:>rape rat press 4 to win>redditman danny>overwatch chinkslop>yakub self insert>baba (actual good design)>i forgot what the 6th guy is havent played in 2 days cuz of this rat buullshit
>>583493185Safe horny strong willed hag
>>583493089they said they're not going to do it because they're lazy
>>583488876whoops, sorry, would have replied to your shitty racebait but I was working lol!
>>583493069>touristbeen here since 2008 which isn't a brag it's a fucking copekill yourself anime nigger
>have rat highest prio, 10 other characters lowest prio>enter game>nobody is rat king>manually select rat king at the character changer>win gamelol
sad they wont do the fu manchu character :(
Geist's backstory kind of makes no sense now that multiple characters are functionally immortal just for fun
Another certified dead game?
>heroes that have bad roam and farming now have good roam and farming because theres heavy crates every 3 feet around the map and a metric fuckton of sinners and camps everywhereim starting to think im seeing the problem
>>583494746yes
>>583497024>just be a ghost or a vampire
>>583446890Good job fucking up the thread retard
>>583457854>living Bunraku doll.too soulful for nu-valve unfortunately
Graves is a nigger hero for smoothbrains, why is she so strong?
>>583498265She isn't
>>583498265watch out the graves players will start insulting you
>>583498265Because you're seeker and your teammates don't know they can melee the skulls
>wipe enemy, take walker and go to mid-boss>ivy boosts to their base as they spawn, kills 2 creeps, zips back and gets shot off and killed>seven takes 85% of his hp to mid-boss and gets killed>lose
>>583489632Love Silver
im drawin some vinny not having a gud time
bring back da broka
>>583499558can you do one of her dead with her skull caved in by the anvil (realistic gore)
>>583499558This is literally what I did to her my last gameYou also should tie her bare feet up (slowing hex)
>>583499418Kek
>>583453990Pretty sure he still Caws when he gets a killstreak
>>583500838He does, I've heard itDunno why that anon thinks he doesn't
>>583499418It's... It's peak...
>>583446981Forehead too short
>be bebop>do match>have 74.2% hook accuracy>win matchhehe
>>583499558Thank you anonI picked up Vinny recently myself and am having a blast with herWhen I'm allowed to anyways
>>583462229She is already a prostitute (all carney freaks are) she doesn't make enough to pay all of it herself.
apollo sex
>>583462583Pure sexo that is
>>583446986Solomon is second, no contest. Then Baba or Danny (could go either way). Then Harrow. Then Violet.
>>583499558holy
Its going to be so funny when baba gets added tomorrow and niggerlovers get btfo
What is the official canon power ranking of the characters in-universe? It's important that I know these things.t. latinx
>>583447160the game has literally never been in a worse state
>>583502579>celeste pickrate only going down because people are bored of her
>>583499807and hex.I feel like I crossed a line somehow by adding the feet but oh well.>>583501626I always love rushing phantom strike or something when I see her. Kinda wanna add it somehow
>>583499558>>583501626>>583502654vindicta RAPE
Just 1 more match of painFor some reason I play really well with Silver, way better than any of my other heroes, I hit all my shots and have heightened senses, no idea why
>>583465880nah they're pretty fuckin ugly
just found out rat king has 75% bullet lifesteal effectivenesshis current status aside can valve not figure out a better way to balance their shit without relying on hidden stats? shit like this and subtle differences in stamina regen rates between heroes that you wouldnt even think to look for unless you are a wiki warriorits so fucking gay
>>583502574Here's mine that I made in 2 minutes and the position on the tiers are not important
>>583483979>rat king's ult doesn't get put on cd if it's interruptedWhat the FUCK, that's how Paige's ult worksDid they just forget to implement that mechanic for this one or are they actually retarded
>Vegas complains that Sinclair ult is too OP>Sinclair gets nerfedHow much power does this nepobaby have?
>>583502654will it follow with her clothes ripped off from the hook, in the ground because of the anvil and someone using phantom strike behind her?
>>583503201Literally who?
>>583502654>and hex.holy based, thanks anon>I always love rushing phantom strike or something when I see her. Kinda wanna add it somehowYou could add rapey Abrams in the background but it will take away from Vindicta herself
>>583503057thanks brรถther...
>>583489632this bitch would still left swipe the whole thread
>>583503304>You could add rapey Abrams in the background but it will take away from Vindicta herselfcock shadow over her face
>>583502574top tier:>doorman>dynamohigh tier:>rem>seven>infernus>grey talon>shiv>victor>hazemid tier>the restliterally just a guy>lash>ivy>vyper>holliday>billy>mcginnis
>>583501196ใใฎๅฝใใใใฃใใ
>>583503432ivy is legendary hero tier cabron
>>583503268newfag
>>583503489Should have her dialogue box read picrel instead
>>583503057Think Ivy and Infernus are around the same power level judging from the conversations, so I'd put her in S tier too otherwise good list.
>>583503057I don't think Shiv should be that far up
>>583503057>Silver>S>Kelvin, Dynamo, Mirage>B
>>583503656Silver canonically survived a 2v1 against Drifter and Shiv THOUGH
>Naturally tanky>Insanely high mobility>Several forms of crowd control>Also good damageDunno guys I'm starting to think the people making this just don't understand basic game design, characters are supposed to have weaknesses
>>583502767plz we only want to do nice things to her>>583503228>>583503304I wanna make it sfw so I can post it but I feel like I've already done something.
>>583503656Silver 1v2'd Drifter and Shiv and lived dawg
>>583503057This list is silly, but it's too late for me to make my own.
>>583503057S+++ilver is just so strong...
>>583503432Rem should be mid tier, its implied he will become high tier or top tier once he grows up into whatever dream demon thing his adult form is gonna be. Right now he's a weird little retard who eats stray cats and can make people fall asleep
idea:sex with abrams
>>583503656Retarded DBZpic
>>583503709Getting gangbanged doesn't make you stronger
>>583503762I can't seem to secure kills with this guy
>>583503776Vinny deserves burger as a treat
>>583503776well it looks amazing good artstyle anon
>>583503948>forgot to cropgoodbye bros
>>583503432>literally just a guyPocket is a normal human being (though a richfag) his combat potential comes from owning a shotgun and a magic briefcase
>>583503762>he's just starting to realize thislmfao
>>583503948I see a nipple...
>>583504034Crop what? That's just a New York glizzy. You can see the Z-shape ketchup and the bread buns underneath
>>583503762We love Maurice and Krilliam here.
>>583504064It's a pretty fuckin magic briefcase though
>>583503893Venator...
>>583504102its okay xhe identifies as male
>>583504148That's a COCK and those are his VEINS and that's his BALLS
>>583503948>Abrams is formidable
>>583504257Nu uh
Knockdown is a dead item slot. Any flyer will buy Dispel.
>>583503762Also doesn't his damage scale not so good?I feel like other characters can dish out more damage and have big sustain
>>583503615Ivy just beat some street thugs. We don't know what Infernus did but he's rather infamous.
venator regularly kills werewolves so if we're assuming silver is maybe above average relative to other werewolves and she survived a 2v1 with shiv and drifter, then ven probably could kill drifter
>>583504184The President has a magic briefcase that can be used to nuke the entire planet at any time but he's still a normal guy. Power you get from equipment (that can be un-equipped/taken away from you) doesn't make you on the level of an intrinsic magic bullshit spellcaster
>Kills your game.
>>583503893>>583503948
>>583503656>Mirage, Kelvionwhat do they do
>>583503762Burrow is in the top 5 most broken abilities.
>>583504321He still does way too much considering his other strengths, characters like him should be doing no damage
>>583504403>do not say nigger"ok">says nigger>gets banned
>>583504403>Game: TOS is dont say nigger nigger nigger. Accept? Y/N>You: Y>You: Nigger nigger nigger nigger>You: AAAAAAIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEE
>>583504034i think if you delete it before the mods do they wont do anything
>>583504337Ivy dismantled the entire Mendoza operation which included before her time people like Infernus and Wraith, so she didn't just beat some street thugs.
>>583502579Rat would have a >70% wr if it wasn't for SinclairVictor was killed in 3 hours for this
so where's the nerfs? it takes them a full fucking day to push a numbers change? jfc
>>583504345Do we even know if Silver was alone against Shiv and Drifter? Doorman's line imples they massacred a lot of people.If Silver was an exceptional werewolf and that strong, I feel like other characters would've made mention of it.
>>583504403>
>>583503586Don't give a shit about your ecelebs nigger
>>583504483>>583504501so romantic...
>>583504303noo haha just buy knockdown it hard counters vindicta haha just like slowing hex hard counters mina and wraith haha
>>583504303>>583504608You're supposed to communicate with your team. If you don't do that, buy curse
so uhh wheres that patch?
