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The Atoma Fold edition

Previous thread: >>583353927

>Latest News/Updates

Darktide:
1.13.0 Patch Notes
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/patch-1-13-0-patch-notes/125866
NEW LIVE EVENT - Allies and Adversaries:
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/special-live-event-allies-and-adversaries-depths-of-the-damned-out-now/125968
Kuli's guides for beginners:
https://steamcommunity.com/id/kulii/myworkshopfiles/?section=guides&appid=1361210
>Acknowledged but barely discussed :
Left4Dead
Deep Rock Galactic
Killing Floor
Payday
Helldivers 2
Earth Defense Force
WWZ
The Outlast Trials
Barotrauma
No More Room in Hell 2
Aliens: Fireteam Elite 2
Vermintide 2
Jump Space

and others

>Future games
Den Of Wolves - TBA
DarkSwarm - TBA
Blight: Survival - TBA
Deep Dish Dungeon - TBA

>Build planners:
Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/
Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/
Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
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Foids of Battle Edtion
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My stealth knife zealot has fire and fury but not risen, but I'm still receiving the effects of risen
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True Grit?
More like True Shit!
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>>583451419
Good one anon!
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Cadia?
More like CACAdia!
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Seeing we are getting 2 handed axes for ogryn I guess this will be the halberd for Darktide? Only thing that bums me out here is that it is seemingly just a normal axe instead of a power axe, that'd been a cool addition to ogryn. Like an ogryn relic blade, like using the same mechanic.
But it does make wonder what happened to those 2 handed power axes that were leaked long ago alongside with the ogryn hammer/cruncher. Seemingly they aren't coming to Novitiate? Since I haven't seen any of the leaks show them off or mention them.
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>>583452285
imagine it has the terrible elven axe moveset
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xenos class next
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>slavgroid joins the game
>game starts stuttering
>:'(
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If we do get xenos, I think Eldar corsair would be most likely. Though I would prefer an Ork or Kroot more.
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>>583452609
xeno class never, Fatshark is too lazy/incompetent for that
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>>583452898
ok I needed excuse to post that hilarious gif
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>>583452609
stop spamming this garbage pic everywhere, across threads, boards and generals
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>>583453108
its not me, retard
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>>583453216
kys
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>>583453236
watch your family die of cancer
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Bit of an obscure question, any anons with ps5 vermintide 2 experience?
I was gonna buy it for my little brother but I heard it's really fucking buggy and crash prone
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>>583453285
faggot
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>>583453307
>ps5 vermintide 2
Consolefags are 2nd class citizens in Vermintides, getting updates with a delay even
There is no crossplay and game is barely alive on PC. It must be utterly dead on consoles
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>>583453393
Thanks
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>>583453393
>Consolefags are 2nd class citizens
You can say that again, there's no raytracing toggle for DT and it chugs the frames often.
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>>583452285
Bold of you to assume we actually will ever get it and it's not another stub asset drop that will never get released
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>>583453734
:(
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>play havoc
>bodyguard the psyker the entire time
>his stats end up being picrel anyway because this nigger constantly gets ledged, stands in overheads, and tanks sniper shots (???)
I think I found him. The ultimate gold toughness crutchshitter.
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Previewed "pyre blade" in the zealot store page and the blade is totally missing
Surely just a bug and not a cool flame sword right?
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>>583454115
>me unga
>team bunga
zog zog
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>>583454118
If you mean the pyreblade skin, it's just a skin.
It doesn't make the sword flamey.
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>>583454115
Looks like you didn't do a very good job then.
You can't expect a psyker to dodge, flame staff is extremely hard to play after all.
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reminder we have 10 character slots now, with SoB you have 8 filled that means two more classes after SoB
SQUAT AND ELDAR CONFIRMATORED
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>>583454903
>SQUAT
You mean Votann?
Fatshark also said they dont wanna make anymore short classes
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>>583454115
>bodyguard the psyker the entire time
>stands in overheads
get the hint
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What the fuck were they thinking with Expeditions?
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>>583454903
>>583454995
Since shorties aren't allowed, the last 2 classes are an eldar corsair and a space marine.
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>>583455027
>helldivers 2 is big
>we want chaos wastes without it being chaos wastes again
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Why was this taken away from me
My two builds for a gunpsyker with a Laspistol and Recon Lasgun were my favorite and comfy playstyles. Edging Scrier's Gaze and sitting in it for as long as possible applying Infernus and DumDum with Brain Rupture triggering from time to time and soulsblaze spreading
I literally cannot recover from this. It's no longer this same. Killed entire class for me
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>>583455801
You will use the flame staff, white ghost.
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>>583450965
I've checked old devblogs and didn't find any mentions than right side was supposed to represent biomancy. And from ability names they feel closer to diviner stuff.
As for pyro — first I reckon the reason they call psyker burn "soulblaze" instead of normal burn is because it's not (technically) a pyromancy. And second — they can port some stuff from Sienna, like beam, bolt and coruscation staves, maybe some of her abilities as well.
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>>583456074
Porting stuff from Vermintide is beyond them, which is why they’ve so rarely done it for most things at this point. The staff is as close as you’re going to get, best to just hope for new stuff altogether at this point.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1wxwyr6/dauntless_armor_weapons_and_head_models_datamined/
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sistersisters, how do we feel?
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>>583456827
lol
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gib me sum xeno gf
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>>583457508
vgh...
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>>583457508
>kroot
>men of iron
it's sovl...
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>>583457561
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>>583457508
>>583457680
>’tide if it kino
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>>583457746
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>no additional cosmetics for dlc classes
>Repentia bundle for the Novitiate never
>if happens it would be new SJW version anyway
Grim
Dark
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>darkturds classes MUST be things that GW currently sells

christ, this is soulless as fuck
>"no you cant add SoB to the game because uhhhh its too OP! use the novitiate instead"-GW

dark heresy should be the template, not what GW dictates
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>>583457969
official picture for the Repentias minis btw, bravo GW
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>>583456785
I do hope for new stuff altogether. But it just seems logical that porting from VT2 would be easier than making new stuff, weird that it's not the case.
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>>583458212
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ded general
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>wake up
>some dude has been screeching about sister of battle power armor all night
>i-it's technically not s-siter of battle so...YOU LOST! haha! EVERYONE is laughing at you! we ALL got together and said "IT'S NOT SISTER OF BATTLE!"
holy cope lmao
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>>583459972
you only wake up now?
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I don't mind if the SoB doesn't have power armour, but it does sadden me that it's the final nail in the coffin of Spyrers
>They were never going to happen
Let me dream
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There will be Sororitas power armor, only on the new Sister Superior NPC who just girlbosses Rannick around.
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>>583458212
This isn't SJW. You can clearly surmise that they are repentia because dark-skinned individuals can't behave and adhere to rules. Whoever made them brown is a gigachud.
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>read Bleach threads on /a/
>years later the samefaggotry hopium about a "hell arc" that's never coming

>read the /acg/ on /m/
>years later the samefaggotry hopium around steamdb entries that never lead to anything

>start playing Darktide a few months back
>come here to read the threads after finding out /coopg/ is the de-facto DT thread
>samefaggotry hopium about SoB based on datamined crumbs

Is this the same mentally ill faggot doing this in every board or is this the new board culture I'm too much of a 2007 newfag to understand? I hope you are right though...just like I was hoping the schizos on the other boards were right (and for naught)
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>>583461490
Humans are social animals, some individuals are terminally online because they are physically repulsive in real life and cannot find social interaction that isn't completely negative (see: troons), those individuals need to fulfill their social needs by attention whoring to a downright mentally ill degree, and this sometimes manifests in samefagging severely retarded bait while newfags keep giving them attention that isn't just a call to kill themselves. Of course, the more elaborate attention whores samefag and ban evade to the point of manufacturing false consensus, ruining any and all discussion because it always devolves into retarded shitflinging.
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>>583461490
>datamined crumbs
are you retarded
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>>583461928
Yes.
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Lord Pangolin Margrave
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>>583461690

Hey I'm terminally online too but I never felt the need to do this, the level of rot you have to succumb to in order to behave like this must truly be worthy of Nurgle's attention.
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>>583456962
looking dauntless af bros
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>>583462080
Well there's being terminally online, and there's being a social pariah wherever you go. I'm talking about the latter. Those "people" are only permitted to exist in echo chambers and places of toxic positivity that accept even the dregs of society with open arms.
There was also the 2016 internet boom in south Asia, and certain cultures having significant social pressure to quadruple down at any cost.
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>>583455027
It was Magnuson's pet project. He's the guy responsible for Mortis Trials and VT Weaves.
Make of that what you will.
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>>583457508
>no marines or sisters in sight
Soul
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>>583462441
This guy sucks
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>>583459972
and here you are posting about it
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>SoB
Zealot bros? Are we fucking dead for real?
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>>583457508
Why is there a female eldar there, I thought the companion you got was a male corsair
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>>583463117
Zealot is now for the chuds who want to play male characters
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>>583463117
Probably yeah.
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>>583463117
Yes, and arbis and ogryns too.
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>>583463651
Arby unironically is. The class serves no purpose and brings nothing worth while. Everything it does other classes also do but better.
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How many kebabs for Sister DLC?
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Would you buy the Zealot if it was a dlc?
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>>583464137
Arbitrator is the most accessible, and arguably strongest, at the very least definitively easiest class, to just faceroll aurics with. It is the journalist mode in the lower difficulties because the dog solos up to heresy. It's the perfect noob class, and the perfect brain-off class for when you just want mindless fun and want to play auric for whatever reason.
In havoc it also serves the purpose of retard crutch for the entire team, because LW mine spam is actually an excellent bandaid for the kind of hardstuckie subhumans that can't pass a single DPS check even below h30.

>>583464248
Yes but only because it's so fucking strong in havoc. I never play zealot in auric anymore.
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>>583464370
>Arbitrator is the most accessible
Yeah, and it still doesn't bring anything worth while or do anything better than another class.
It being OP in lower difficulties because the average player is a retard doesn't matter.
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>>583462724
>so what if I shit myself? you're still talking about it
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lol remember that time anon shat himself?
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>>583464545
>it still doesn't bring anything worth while or do anything better than another class.
It brings the ability for a maliceshitter to play auric and not be COMPLETE deadweight.
The thing it does better is being playable by a complete retard.
In practice, that is the entire purpose of the class. The kind of retard that vaguely struggles to play arbitrator in auric, would, on any other class, constantly hug the ground and die over and over and likely ragequit 70% through the mission, we've all seen the type.

Optimized top-end performance is entirely besides the point. This entire thing cuts both ways because scum is the polar opposite. It's literally useless in the hands of even just a slightly sub-par player.
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>>583464601
for someone who said they won, you sound fragile responding like that
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>I-I-It doesn't bring anything worthwhile!!!!!
people who play this game like they would an MMO raid with spreadsheets for class buffs and combinations are so weird
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it is funny how imperal propaganda works on spassmarines and sisters, it took until recently to start shifting SM into more tanky power on table top, but both sisters and IG were both... kinda hoardy squishy?
it'd be funny if the sister we actually got isnt actually that powerful despite all the hype the playable classes talked about
but going from 0 to 30 is just the powerlevel adjustment from novitiate to a proper sister
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>>583464706
>In practice, that is the entire purpose of the class
No, it's purpose is to be a crowd control tank that creates space.
The class is completely outclassed and outperformed in that practically by other classes.
And again, shitters being bad at the game and then mitigating that is not a valid reason or a valid niche for a class to fulfill.
If ogryn was just a retard class that does nothing but let shitters survive and you give to your girlfriend to play, people would call ogryn useless as well.
Arbites is useless and serves purpose.
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>>583465138
>in practice
>lists a bunch of theoretical bullshit
Why are you being obtuse, do you have autism?
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>>583464823
cope
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why are you such a fucking retard?
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>>583465138
uh oh this lexbreaker is salty the spacecop keeps outperforming him
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>>583465014
I do agree with autistic cop-hater anon that arbitrator doesn't actually bring anything worthwhile, as far as opportunity cost is concerned. If you just want a tanky frontliner that buys space, zealot just needs to slot a crusher and does that infinitely better while also supporting and keeping everyone alive. Alternatively, have an ogryn shoot his explosive gun a couple times and everything gets knocked over and also just dies.
But this is all exclusively in a havoc 30-40 context.
Below 30, arbitrator has a ton of value because bad players are bad. In auric and below, arbitrator allows retards to actually play the game. I'd rather have a retard on arbitrator, than a retard that goes down 5 times and then ragequits after the mission is no longer on the board.
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>>583455801
sorry anon, the ecelebs said it was useless
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arbitrators are the most fun teammates because they let me play the fucking game
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>>583466240
>ecelebs
even the most popular darktide sloptubers are nobodies
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>AIEEEE WHY ARE YOU NOT PLAYING FLAMESTAFF PSYKER ITS THE MOST OPTIMAL CLASS!!!!!!!
I bet you're fun to have in groups
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>>583466452
it's all relative
you know what i mean
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>>583466335
*shotguns every single thing on the map*
Nothing personnel
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>>583466498
*yoinks the ammo*
Oh it's personnel now!
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So did they make Daemonhosts change targets again after someone dies? Or did that Ogryn player actually leave just before he died, and it set the DH after me?

If the latter is the case, fuck him for doing that to me.

>>583466484
>>AIEEEE WHY ARE YOU NOT PLAYING FLAMESTAFF PSYKER ITS THE MOST OPTIMAL CLASS!!!!!!!

hehe, zap zap, hehe.
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Why wont they let us have attractive female characters?
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>>583466623
Not so shrimple now... in fact, it's a huge prawnblem...
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>>583466705
because you let them silence perverts in the early 2000's forward, and now the light of coom has left you
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>>583466484
Flamestaff isn't even the optimal build on psyker, but this general is too low skill at the game to be ready for that discussion.
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>>583466705
why do you want to goon over your character?
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>>583466705
>the 1000 cock stare
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i'm not really liking the power falchion, am i getting it wrong?
i was using the chainsword before that
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>>583467204
Falchion is extremely good at clearing trash hordes, and ranges from underwhelming to mediocre at everything else. It only functions as a backup weapon, because the heat mechanic will just lock you out if you actually actively melee.
Chainsword is also an underwhelming piece of shit.
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>>583467204
no, you're getting it right
other than killing poxwalkers real good, it's caca poopoo doodoo
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>>583467286
>chainsword
>probably the most iconic 40k weapon alongside the boltgun
>it fucking sucks and isn't worth using
Grim
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>>583467204
chainsword is better because it actually kills things
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Nothing clears trash like a chainsword, and it's good vs 1 elite. It's not THAT bad.
>uhm ackshuall a fully charged force greatsword can do much bett-
SHUT UP?
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>>583467473
>Nothing clears trash like a chainsword
lol
>and it's good vs 1 elite
So you play malice?
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>>583467473
The rashad and power sword shits and pisses and queefs on the chainsword when it comes to horde clear
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>>583467706
sorry senpai, it ain't 2023 any more
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>>583467009
>can the women please look like women? you know, instead of like men?
>why do you want to JACK OFF and EDGE to this character? why does she need to be a HYPERTITS SLUTMAXXED WHORE for you?
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I feel eepy
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How would YOU fix the chainsword?
I'm honestly surprised they've left the most iconic weapon of the franchise to rot for so long.
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>>583468486
just give it more rending
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>>583468486
I think the first step would be going back in time and making sure fatshark never develops darktide
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>>583468817
But then how am i supposed to have fun?
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>>583467819
No, it's 2026 and the chainsword still sucks ass
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>>583467009
Do you walk up to women on the street and ask this too?
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>>583468889
By playing the game fatshark clearly wanted to make instead of darktide, vermintide 3.
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>>583468486
toggle modes
no timer like the relic blades.
Powered mode makes it function more like the chain axe mkiv where it will 'latch' onto units with the attacks and unpowered (still active) rev through hordes
Make the latching rev attack not take 20 years to finish, make it have high rending but single target in a quick attack
>fatshart is too retarded to do any of that or rework the weapon
Make the special attack distribute a portion of the damage between each tick of the rev up, instead of offloading 90% of the damage at the very end of an animation lock that gets you killed in most difficulties.
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>>583468486
I wouldn't change a single thing about them. I would listen to what they had to say. And that's what no one did
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>>583468997
Not at killing chaff. Make sure you pick the good mark. Not the old version.
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>>583469346
Dumb fuck
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>>583469478
whatever problem you have in life, you shouldn't sit here and take it out on others
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>>583469631
My problem is retards, so i think my anger is directed exactly where it should
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>>583469748
raped his ass
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>>583469748
skill issue
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>>583470124
He got poop on my dick
>>583470249
Simmer down, shitter
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Darktide babs? your response?
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Why does that tranny think we give a shit?
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>Game Industry Analysis: Mud Slime
lol who gives a fuck
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>>583471685
>>583471751
he is spamming this in every warhammer general
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I think Psyker melee is more fun than Zealot melee
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>>583471598
We beat the first Space Marine game! REJECTS RULE TITUS DROOLS.
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>>583466705
In the grimdark future, you're an ugly reject. Only the highborn get to enjoy cosmetic surgery. As a lowborne like yourself, there's no way to amend the dysgenic practices that resulted in the genetic refuse that produced (you) in the lower city. This means you'll always look like a mongoloid retard and there's nothing you can do about it.
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>>583472324
Surely can earn enough spaceshekels for the Rogue Trader's pet plastic surgeon to give us a makeover?
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>>583466705
and they won't even give us helmets
novitiates but they have to look 40 years old for (((some))) reason
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>>583468486
just more damage against armor, thats really about it
and tear through shields, the fact that chainweapons dont is kinda ridiculous
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>>583472732
Which is funny since Novitiates are essentially fresh-faced kids just out of highschool. Imagine being stuck as a Novitiate and never getting your power armor for decades.
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pure sex
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>>583473163
younger than that even, girls are around ten years old on selection day, they have a few years of training before they'd get a mission like this but these novitiates should be 13-17 years old.
i wonder if fatshark even considered that
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>>583466705
Why would an attractive female be in a prison? She would be in a brothel
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>>583473338
meh
it doesn't look final but even zealot gets cooler armor
i hate leather i don't know WHY they fucked with the boots like that
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>>583472724
The best he can do is make you look like a different mongoloid
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i played the new darktide update this weekend it is fun I like the new level and that boss. The skill tree resets have been good I think. I have only tried one new weapon, the ogres warhammer, and I thought that was usable. Anything to add?
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>>583473634
Of course they did, that's why we're getting SoBs
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>>583474364
Yeah, this
*farts*
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>>583473338
pretty sure this is also the deluxe edition armor set too right?
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>>583473878
the basic novitiate set is better than literally every cosmetic option offered in the entire game
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Can someone summarize the new Darktide patch story for me? I can't focus on the hordes and the voice lines at the same time desu. All I got is that the NPC who works at the penance desk is a Fed or something.
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>>583475217
Nope
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So i just took the chainsword for a spin on hive scum on histg. Now i remember why i should never ever listen to anything anyone says in this general. There are people here who clearly don't play the game. I'm a literal whirlwind of death. With buffs online i'm one shotting crushers with the special, and maulers are falling like flies. Entire blobs of 15 shotgunners and maulers evaporate in a second. I need to use this more because this is fun.
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>>583475217
>noble lady got busted for contraband
>hestia is a noble in hiding, everyone but rannick knows. noble guy dies because of it
>daemon in the desert is bringing back rodin as a tub of lard psyker in the sewers
>more nurgle psykers are popping up, rannick is calling in specialists
>also, brunt is there
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>>583475365
>on scum
Anon, anything is strong on scum because scum is strong. Combat axe mogs the chainsword, dual shivs shit on every other weapon the class has access to. Scum is so broken it makes the heavy sword look good.
You are retarded.
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>>583475365
Shivs exist and are better
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>>583475453
You can't say something is bad when it's clearly good. You're literally spreading misinformation.
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Is there a way to see teammates builds?
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>>583475581
>I'm not bad at fighting, look how I beat up this literal toddler!
>I'm such a good fighter lol suck it
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>>583475453
raped his ass
>>583475468
raped his mouth
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>>583475623
with mods
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>>583474993
It's kind of sad that this is being hailed at feminine. I mean in context I agree with you but then you consider what feminine armor looks like by devs who arent sexless joyless retards
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>>583474993
arbites default looks cooler
the leather boots look so fucking stupid why did they go off model to do that of all things?
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>>583475453
>how dare you use a melee weapon on melee character!
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>>583475998
Illiterate retard
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>>583476029
keep coping with your severe skill issues
you're the one who can't play the game without using exclusively the most OP shit in the game
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>>583476114
>I'm using the cool thing nobody uses therefore I'm better than you
>havoc rank: 26
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>>583476186
true survivor since week 1 season 1
enjoy the meta, anon
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>>583476247
We both know where this is going. Just go and post your reddit screenshot so you can complete your humiliation ritual.
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>>583476320
no
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>>583476470
I accept your concession.
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>>583475440
>brunt returns in the story
>but not to his armory on the ship
???
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>>583476580
I think you're one of those people who believe that weapons can either be S tier or dogshit. It's a very particular perspective to have, and nothing I can say can change your mind. It's just who you are, unfortunately.
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>>583475453
>Scum is so broken it makes the heavy sword look good.
Honestly it is funny how many people miss this point.
Rampage is just retarded, that fucking thing gives you 35% STRENGTH, and then on top you get 25% STRENGTH on top of that by picking Pulverising Strikes. That alone nets you 60% STRENGTH
And then you get 25% rending on heavies, and since it wasn't overpowered enough you get 20% attack speed and 25% damage reduction as well.
And Adrealine Frenzy gives you another 10% attackspeed and 25% melee damage.
And then on top of this you get another 15% rending and 20% strength and another 20% attack speed from cartel stimm when you run 100% viscosity stimm.
Yeah, no fucking shit that even heavy sword becomes retardedly strong when you have all of these fucking buffs going.
And cherry on top, you get the best ranged weapon in the game which eliminates all specialists as issues.
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bodied that freak
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>>583474993
This is meh.
The knight armor for zealot is still 100% the best armor in this game.
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>>583476845
I remember people complaining Rampage was bad because it had exhaustion.
That's what made it interesting imo.
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>>583476845
>And cherry on top, you get the best ranged weapon in the game which eliminates all specialists as issues.
That's an undersell lol it also fucking rapes bosses, you just need to keep the DoT stacked up. It doesn't even matter if you happen to be on CD since your gun is just so broken.
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>zealot still has the coolest melee weapons
>zealot still has the coolest armor
>i will still delete my zealot and never touch it again
fatshark sure is trying to keep them relevant i will give them that
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>>583476959
which one, the crusader ripoff that looks like a dumpy $30 halloween costume version of the real deal, the featureless metal slab with 20 belts on the chest, or the one with the slaaneshi sex gauntlet I've seen in Dmitrys' works on a futanari who violently fists her enemies
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Sororitas should look like this and anything less is wokeslop
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>>583475440
thank you anon

>>583475280
thank you anon
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>>583477073
That is also true. I didn't mention it but you also get pickpocket which makes a complete non-issue for the class as well.
And you get arguably 2 of the strongest blitzes, aids grenade destroys anything that walks into it and the boom bringer is basically the ogryn frag bomb but you get to carry 3 of them.
Scum is just so god damn overpowered that it is just comical at this point.
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>>583477310
>which one
This one.
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>>583477310
dunno what you mean with the 3rd one but the first 2 are both way better than the flat leather chest plate with jeans.
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>>583477490
>Scum is just so god damn overpowered that it is just comical at this point.
Well it suffers from requiring actually good fundamentals, and being kind of miserable if you don't have teammates because being made of wet toilet paper makes soloing objectives pretty difficult. Auric-and-below-babs literally never witness a good scum, because they all brick their build with some retarded penance farming crate spam that does less than nothing because it costs your ability slot and your entire stimm slot. And then somehow most of these also leak into havoc thinking they're SUPPOOOOORTING when in reality they're just dead weight and should get declined every time.
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>>583475440
>rannick is calling in specialists
Is this a new class teaser already?
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>>583477425
Breasts too small. Should be 3 times bigger.
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Sex with skaven.
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For some reason I thought 15 chest would give a lot more diamintine. My last chest was a 3. I'm disappointed.
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>>583477693
So you have selected the slaaneshi sex gauntlet.
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>>583478003
No, that's the teaser for this Novitiate class. Which is probably releasing in early December like Scum did.
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>>583459972
fooling no one
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>>583478313
>zhe's still upset
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>>583478228
Those don't look at all similiar.
Your porn addiction is showing.
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>>583478460
keep that bad boy lubed up and ready to plunge into some poor nurglite's favorite hole
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fatshark if you are going to leak shit can it not be 8+ weeks from it's release?
now i have to go back to finding something else to do until then vgh
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>"ayo purge dem crakka ass hereticz"
>"FOR YAKUB ON DEM GOLDEN THRONEZ"
>monkey noises
>picks up ammo from dead enemies
>arbites can friendly fire her
>"THROWIN SUM KFC BUCKET GRENADE BITCH ASS"
>terrified of pox hound
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>>583462391
That happened around 2015. Or maybe 2018.
>>583474993
It’s definitely not lol. It is pretty good looking though. No need to go overboard.
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>>583478903
>It’s definitely not lol
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unironically soon at this point
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>>583479094
It would be so funny if they did this and gave them heavy bolters
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>>583478764
This is the only thing i am sad about, novitiate means we will never be able to cover these godawful faces
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the glup shittofication of darktide begins with SoB
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>>583479348
The what??
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>>583477425
Muscle mommy enjoyer? Excellent tastes.
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>>583479348
already happened with the 20 NPC handlers who narrate missions and i hate all of them and can't remember any of their names
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>>583461490
>>samefaggotry hopium about SoB based on datamined crumbs
what makes you think it's samefaggotry?
Not only is it extremely obvious that Sororitas was in the cards from ears ago, we also have references in the game itself + leaks.
Arbites "wasn't supposed to happen", then it happened.
Skitari would "never ever happen", then it happened.
Even a literal who criminal junkie happened.
I can't imagine what kind of mental gymnastics someone need to have, in order to think we're not getting Sororitas at this point.
The doomers and deniers are on some insane copium, so strong it has completely fried their neural pattern recognition network.
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Closest thing you can make to a cute girl in this shit ass game. Vermintide 2 had a cute girl, why can't darktide?
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>>583479871
vermintide had an elf
that's the difference
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>>583479871
>Vermintide 2 had a cute girl,
No, it didn't. The only, sole, saving grace of Kerillian is that she has her face covered all the time
Fatshark are mudcore enjoyers and make everything intentionally ugly
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>>583480101
She was a QT hag. Would bang that witch pussy.
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Can femboys be noviatites?
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>>583480101
Kerri is cute tho
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>>583480545
fuck off brooks
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>>583472732
>>583473163
>>583473634
>we’ll never get a cute loli/hebe sister
it’s over
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>>583461490
Nah it's just bog standard tribalism like with sportsball, religions and countries. Person A wants thing to happen, Person B states it is unlikely, Person A takes this as a grave insult and goes insane trying to defeat Person B.
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>>583479783
>Arbites "wasn't supposed to happen", then it happened.
1 or 2 people said this at best
it was always one of the likeliest choices and fairly obvious
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>>583481165
You're arguing with either ratjeet or sobtroon, stob giving it attention. Learn to recognize obvious retarded trolls, newfaggot.
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>>583461147
Maybe in Darktide 2 if it ever happens buddy. It’s simply beyond our Swedish friends at the moment.
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>>583480694
>thinking sweden could ever deliver such kino
maybe if the game were made by slavs
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Is there a practical use case for picrel talents? Getting extra boost for melee attacks that works all the time without any timers or peril cost seems good, but I'm unsure what weapon would benefit it the most (if any).
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>>583481165
Yes I agree. Few people can make many posts.

>>583481219
we're not even arguing, we're just talking. Kys nigger.
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>>583473338
We already have sister of battle at home
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>>583479783
Sisters didn't happen. Novitiates are the off-brand sisters that nobody wanted.
People wanted power armor.
>inb4 someone has a meltdown over power armor animations or "it's too strong"
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>>583461490
>hopium about SoB based on datamined crumbs
People found all those meshes, textures and audio for armor, weapons and daemon enemies in game files. How do you think they ended up there? Fatshark created all of that just for a laugh? When they are hinting at another class for a while already?
This is not a random steamdb entry

This is how stuff is leaked all the time here
Same goes for SM2
Hell in this general we had Fatshark employees leaking content for their games anyway
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>>583479143
yeah, funny
But I now believe it can happen. They are not using Power Armor either. They aren't even full Marines. They are not different from SoB Novitiates. People joked about getting Scout in Darktide. It can actually happen now what the fuck
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>>583481560
You don't speak for us. And 1-2 anons theorycrating about power armor also don't speak for us.
Novitiates are literally sisters of battle in training.
I'm sorry your doomerism didn't work out.
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>>583481424
Moonlight Greatsword benefits from Charged Strike, but it only applies the electrocution effect so it's of questionable use. Enfeeble is pointless, getting the best use out of it requires you to be a smigger, and being a smigger is basically trolling.
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>>583481451
>samefagging
I see.
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>>583481941
if you're really this bored, may i suggest playing some Darktide instead to pass the time? Because you're really not adding anything good or interesting to the thread
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>>583481683
Speaking of leaks, isn't it weird that they're leaking so much this time around? We barely got any leaks at all for the other classes, but Novitiate is getting basically its entire kit thrown out there months ahead of release.
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>>583481560
everyone wants power armor but nobody expects it from fatshark
right off the bat i was saying it would be novitiate so they don't have to do the extra work to give everyone power armor, i will still main the new class
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>>583480101
>mudcore enjoyers
That’s not the way I’d put it
>>583478979
I wasn’t aware these were the only cosmetics in the game
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>>583479348
true the threads are in trouble too
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>>583481854
it isn't going to happen for the same reason power armor never will
they would have to make new animations and that costs too much
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>>583482197
>I wasn’t aware these were the only cosmetics in the game
as far as I'm concerned they are, it all looks like a blur of absolute fucking garbage to me
except that skitarii premium outfit, that's pretty good
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>>583482131
It is, but other than them getting careless I can't think of anything
Saber doesn't at all on other hand. Every release has tons of content like this in files
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>>583482131
everyone was talking up a full fledged sister of battle they leaked it so it wasn't a slap in the face when it released as novitiate
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>>583482281
>they would have to make new animations and that costs too much
No they wouldn't.
Only thing they need to do is just take the regular male human body and scale it up by like 50% and just use the same animations.
They even used the same animations for skitarii.
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>>583481872
>Enfeeble is pointless, getting the best use out of it requires you to be a smigger, and being a smigger is basically trolling.
It seems to increase the damage after applying electrocution with Charged Strike, so I was thinking that some weapon that works best with chaining heavy attacks could benefit from both. Something like Illisi Force Sword seems fitting. But again, not sure it's worth "losing" a blitz over for it.
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My main concern is that the new class will have even fewer interactions than skitarii and scum because of the networking problem.
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>>583482620
>interactions
>networking problem
???
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>>583482550
skitarii are normal humanoids
go scale yourself up in a bethesda game and you'll see how stupid that would look
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>>583481863
>You don't speak for us.
This is unironically you coping.
>n-nah bro, I totally wanted these dogshit trainees and not power armor, I want more reject slop"
You are not fooling anyone.
>>583482131
More shit is getting "leaked" because there was recently an update to some 3D software, probably blender, that made it possible to export/import models from the Darktide gamefiles and compile into something usable.
I bet there were same amount of leakable material for arbites and skitarii but we just couldn't access it, until the update to blender or whatever 3D software.
It's how Janfon1 has managed to make some of those new Darktide animations.
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>>583482281
why would they have to make new animations for power armor?
you keep saying this shit despite it being completely wrong
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>>583482732
Dialogue between characters. Every additional class adds increases the number of potential interactions that have to be written and voice acted, incurring a greater cost each time, but the cost of the DLC doesn't increase, so I can only imagine they're doing fewer interactions to keep the cost down.
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>>583482826
>skitarii are normal humanoids
They are not. They are taller and have different limbs even.
Scout marines would not look any different.
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>>583482921
It's just one of the sisterfags coping why we couldn't get power armor.
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>>583482921
all you ever do is stomp your foot and say "nuh uh" despite power armor being animated as mechanical movement in every piece of media where it is animated.
The new sound work alone would stop it from ever happening.
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>>583482281
For a Scout? He isn't even using Power Armor, just like Novitiate
I thought it meme back then, but now it wouldn't surprise me at all
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I'm happy
>no you're not!

even by /copeg/ standards this is just weird
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>>583482951
I remember how in VT2 they were talking about this, which is why they came up with career system instead
For darktide they chose to make character creation which solves none of the issues, but each character now has 3 female and 3 male characters, each with a different VA, so it's a retardation they caused themselves, despite fully being aware of issues it may cause
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>>583483236
he is definitely not in favor of sister of battle

>>583483272
here are official, GW approved representations of sisters
https://youtu.be/h-az1-jcfVU
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4oGoo6sQADs
where are you seeing mechanical movement? where are you seeing inhuman movement? where are you seeing anything that would require any kind of change from the standard human animation set?
you are so fucking stupid
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We could easily get power armor. Technically it would be easier than implementing skitarii. Lore wise it isn't an appreciable power boost over the rejects since ogyrns already surpass the brute strength of most space marine power armor. Mechanically we'd probably only be able to differentiate sister power armor from mundane armor via whatever active abilities that they give the class. It might also be used as justification for whatever hp/toughness values that they give the class.

I'm still hoping for the ol'ranger trick assault pack.
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>>583483327
a marine scout would need new animations even without power armor because he is so much larger
scaling doesn't look so bad here because it uses the old stubby firstborn
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>>583483494
To be fair, Skitarii only has 4 voices, 2 male 2 female, Novitiate will have even fewer, possibly only 2 or 3. They still have to record lines for every other voice to interact with them, I can't help but feel that the Novitiate lines will be generic responses in some way. Where the fuck do they even go after this if they want to make more classes?
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>>583483771
they very obviously move as people driven by a mechanical suit, it is like the first thing you notice about how they move
it would not match the default animations at all
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>>583483494
I'm still confident that at one point in time we were supposed to just have the boxart rejects with the nigga-psyker as some group leader, and then at the last minute they pivoted to character creator.
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>>583483940
>oh shit he posted actual video evidence that I'm completely wrong
>I'll just pretend it's not there and continue the argument like it's absent
you are so fucking autistic
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>>583482519
This is the headcanon I'll go with. Fagshart clearly knew they will have backlash for revealing the Sororitas class as rookie Sisters instead of the power armored, heavy bolter wielding Battle Sisters 99% of normalfags were expecting, so the leak was done as a pressure valve to darktide over disappointment so 40k sloppers will eventually accept and buy it in December.
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>>583483940
They move like people moving normally. Power armor completely mimics their motions.
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I'm getting tired of darktide and there's still no news for vermintide content. What's the next big coop game?
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>>583484212
Marriage
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>>583484065
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i pointed out how they are animated in EVERY piece of media they are in and then you pretended to not notice when you watched it
>>583484206
it does not, samefagging nigger
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>40k power armor lore
>it's a mesh of cybernetic muscle that feels like wearing a second skin
>in no way are your movements hindered, it all feels completely organic so long as the power supply stays on
>one autist on /vg/: ACTUALLY THEY'D CREEK AS THEY MOVED AND IT'D BE LIKE DISNEY ANIMATRONICS
>NO I'M SEEING THIS VIDEO A DIFFERENT WAY THAN YOU, YOU'RE JUST PRETENDING NOT TO SEE IT MY WAY
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>if i don't reply maybe he won't BTFO me this time
you lost
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>>583484440
>sissies of butthole comes up as a topic
>immediately devolves into severely autistic screeching
>the bait is so fucking easy that even the resident retard troll changes tack and pretends to be a sobtroon
Both sides are fucking retarded, you should all kill yourselves.
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if you're just going to argue reality is different from your perspective there's nothing left to reply about
I can't fix how fucked you are
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i don't think darktide needs another heavy melee focused class. the dlc classes in vermintide were way better with how they changed up gameplay. everything feels too samey in darktide still.
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>no bro he totally trolled you
>he pretended to be an absolute blithering retard for an hour, he totally got you man
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>>583481854
>>583483327
If scout ever did happen, it would basically confirm they don’t see Novitiate as a proper Sister which would probably open the avenue for other things
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>>583484212
Gears of War: E-DAY
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The only power armor that looks mechanical in movement is terminator armor since it's so built up that it no longer enjoys full natural range of movement. Standard space marine tactical armor, and the human scale armor commonly in service with the inquisition and sob does nothing to inhibit normal movement.
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>>583485006
but is it actually worth it? i haven't touched a gears game online since 2.
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>>583485054
All power armor widens the leg stance to make clearance for the leg plating, but that's about it.
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>>583485054
it does not have to inhibit normal movement for the movement to be changed
there is 2 inches of armor slapped all over your body, it isn't going to look the same when you run even if you can run with the same ability
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>>583485106
>but is it actually worth it?
If you want to look at butch lesbians and men crying to each other about their feelings yeah
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>>583485235
When has fatshark ever been afraid of clipping?
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>>583483982
Thank fucking god the one Sven still in the office at the time had the common sense to crank the break and make that decision if true
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how is the huntsman shotgun
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>>583485535
Good, how are you?
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How do you keep peril up as a psyker?
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Temu Sister
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>>583485235
It's just genuine autism. Anon can't handle that GW is so lazy they animate women wearing power armor identically to any normal human. He is sure it must be ever so slightly different even when it's not. He's on the "this will cripple him for life but he'll never be sure why" end of the spectrum. Amazing.
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Any tips for improving fps in Darktide? I get heavy fps drops whenever a lot of enemies die at the same time
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>>583485667
I throw moonlight blades at things.
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>>583485713
>carcharodon gargantua
are you the sissy boi playtester?
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>>583485106
I really enjoyed coop in beta, but campaign looks way too pozzed
I'm not buying it for now
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I hope we get Malfoid of battle
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>>583485713
>fatshark employees actually post here
kudos for witnessing all of us shit on you 24/7 and still showing up lol
that or you just stole the screenshot in which case rope yourself

>>583486092
playtesters are the Remorae something, as in the lil fishes that swim around the sharks
pretty funny concept btw, to use that as a name
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>>583486429
are you the one that's been posting this bitch daily on /v/
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>>583485106
I played the open beta for the co-op mode, it was ok albeit unbalanced where the assault rifles are again completely worthless as anything but an emergency melee weapon, making the assault rifle cover shooter claas the worst out of the assault (gets a selfheal and exclusive better shotgun), sniper (guess what he gets) or medic (gets a grenade launcher).
/v/eddit claims the multiplayer is already infested with cheaters like all games before it, and the story focuses too much on the OC donut steel ugly lesbo than on Marcus and Dom, take it what you will.
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>>583485772
if you would ever watch the animations you post you'd see it for yourself, i see a floppy spazzy little guardsman against a fluid and stable mechanical fighting platform
the devs can't even manage giving novitiate their normal boots because of the slight heels it gives them and you think they could manage power armor
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>>583486596
the guardsman is zombified
you claim to know exactly how sister of battle power armor should behave and be animated and you've never even watched pariah nexus
holy shit
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>>583486741
>it is so obvious how they move the same in this animation i chose can't you see that i am right
>erm actually the guardsman is a zombie so it makes sense that they move completely different
why did you post it then?
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>>583486092
I doubt it
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>>583481424
>practical
No.
However, I run them in my DS melee + revolver psyker, simply because I literally have nowhere else to put points into.
It's "allright", you can cope and pretend that its doing anything while you play and that's the only use case you're gonna get.
The build is good in auric maelstroms only in spite of it, not because of it.
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>>583481424
>coop forgot about the knife bleed zap bug abuse psyker from days of yore

grim.
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>post my thoughts on a recent game I had, class balance, the upcoming class rumors, or anything else gameplay related
>"ARE YOU POOPDICKSCHIZO OR ANTIPOOPDICKSCHIZO?!"
>"DON'T RESPOND GUYS, IT'S CLEARLY GRANDPOOPDICKSCHIZOKING"
you guys are insane. Some number of you are literally mentally ill.
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>>583486954
because there is nothing superhuman or magical about the way that sister in power armor brawls with a few zombies and barely survives by knifing them in the throat
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>>583487452
i didn't say the animation had to be superhuman or magical or that it has to inhibit your movement somehow
i said it has to match how they make it look in these animations, which is not how people move in darktide, which is a lot more twitchy and dynamic
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>>583487705
Find an official GW animation that shows a human moving like a darktide human.
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>>583483982
Making 4 premade characters per class would be a far smarter thing to do. You would simply select different character if someone in your team chose one already. And it would allow Class stacking anyway while making sure nonimmerssive double Krubers won't happen, which was the problem in VT2. And would limit amount of those connections >>583483817 with less Voice Actors needed to coordinate and pay for

In current system voices will still stack making this entire endeavor near pointless since you can still get double Cadians, which is no different from playing VT2 on a modded realm with 2 Krubers
Backstory of your character is irrelevant and only Voice matters anyway, which is why nigger Psyker voice was always an Enforcer
All of female faces look like garbage so everyone uses this same one face for their females anyway, which is even bigger failure of character creation. And nobody picks niggers or asians for Males anyway
Character Creation being a thing means everyone has to use very jarring nicknames in dialogues since they can't use actual names and barely any dialogue between characters is allowed to reference their interactions before mission since they are all supposed to be expendable Rejects™. That is until Fatshark forgets about it and writes those anyway, precious few of which are actually "famous" and well liked

BUT at the very least it means most characters you see in game are White Males instead of premade niggers and stronk wymyn Fatshark otherwise wanted to force onto us.
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Am I late? The 2 resident autists started fighting eachothers for 500+ posts already?
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>>583485628
That’s not your name…
>>583486096
Agreed, took one look at it and knew what I’d be in for sadly
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>>583486548
Anon it’s the newest cutest trend that everyone loves more than one person is doing that
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>>583488063
Yes and yes
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>>583488017
>4 premade characters per class would be a far smarter thing to do
>And would limit amount of those connections >>583483817 with less Voice Actors needed to coordinate and pay for
Are you stupid?
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>>583488063
>2 resident autists
>he thinks that it's actually multiple people
>and not the same nigger samefagging
grim
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>you can random into the new mission
>team has 0 (null(proper)) ranged damage
AYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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>>583487862
any normal human? the zombie guardman in the one you posted matches it better. even swinging a weapon in game would have to be changed to look more fluid like her using her knife and less twitchy and panicked like we have now.
my main issue is you think i am just trolling you or something idk how you can watch those and think they are moving like a normal human when they very obviously are not
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>Have aquilas saved since Arbys came out waiting for the leaked red coat version of the shop item
>red coat still hasnt come out
They will start adding more cosmetics to the DLC catalogue after sisters come out right? 4 base classes 4 dlc classes means we can rotate their items now.
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>>583488293
Yes, it would. Because currently they have 6 Voice Actors per most classes, not 4.
Get rid off 3 female VAs for Zealot, Veteran, Psyker, Arbites, Scum and add 1 another male for each instead and it's much better, while also making sure no character personalities will overlap, the very issue they wanted to solve to allow class stacking to begin with
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>>583488486
Just walk up and punch the fatass, anon
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>>583486548
Its the current month psyop. It happens every once in a while.
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if i block someone on steam, does it prevent matchmaking? in darktide
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>SoB leaked
ye that's cool and all, but what is the gimmick?
>scum has drugs
>arbi has dog
>skittle has dog 2.0 + dense talent tree
giga prayers? saltz immunity shield?
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>>583488708
Anon this doesn't solve or limit the problem at all, each added class still exponentially increases the number of possible interactions, even if each class only had one single voice that's gender locked. It's an unavoidable fact of network growth. VT2 only solved this by compiling multiple "classes" onto single fixed characters, but that's not going to work for Darktide.
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>>583488976
she gets her period and goes berserk
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whats up with swedes and hating white men?
helldivers also does "we cant have a le hecking powery fantasirino in our games!!! this is mudshit grunt fantasy!!!!"
fuck this sissy shit back when men were men every character in 40k was a fucking space marine shooting and screaming
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>>583483785
>a marine scout would need new animations
He wouldn't. Skitarii didn't any new ones either and they are taller.
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>>583488976
flying baby
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>>583488976
cum chalice
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worlds most obvious bait award
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>>583489324
>the Abominable Intelligence of the foul xenos construct fears the Machine Spirit of the holy cyborg baby
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>>583488017
Neither situation is ideal, but I know which one I would prefer
>>583489157
Sounds more like a Khorne thing
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>>583488976
>with sister of battle we decided to make a class that is high risk, high reward
>with the new Martyred Lady keystone, the lower your health gets the more damage you do
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>>583488976
i hope there's at least one that is miracle related, wouldn't be right that some random "the end is near" hobo gets a holy relic but big E's daughterwife just gets a big bomb or something
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>>583489080
Text is cheap it's not the limiting factor. Voice Acting is. Having to get all those Voice Actors back every time and record everything with them is expensive and a problem.
This is why cRPGs can drown you in walls of text, but won't bother with VA. Limit Voice Actors needed for every class down to bare minimum (4) and it's much better
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>>583490105
Anon. Just one voice per class still involves an exponential increase per added class.
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>>583488976
>>583490000
Transform
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>>583490105
I think it should just be one per class and they should've standardize their genders but people would be pissed if they did that now
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>>583489690
>Sounds more like a Khorne thing
The Order of the Bloody Rose would be worshipping Khorne if they weren't so devout to Big E.
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>>583490503
FAITH is cool we like FAITH here
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>>583490627
Silence nerd, go read a book
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>>583490000
quads of truth
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What secondary gun do you use with Ogryn? I want to snipe specials with it but they all suck at it
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>>583490627
sisters and chaos should sit down and find common ground in knowing LORGAR WAS RIGHT
maybe the emperor could even apologize or something..
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>>583490263
>>583490294
Yes, but the point was to not repeat VT design issue again which prevented you from playing Witch Hunter if someone else already picked Victor. Hence multiple personalities. And so the most reasonable thing would be to make as few of them as possible so 4, since that's squad size in Tide games.
Instead they got 6 VAs to make 3 personalities for each, which is the worst option possible, achieving nothing really.

DT classes already have multiple Careers rolled into one. If hypothetical VT3 would ever be made, they should made it like this as well. Leave U5 playable, add 3 additional guys per class, no character customization. That way you will have 4 unique Witch Hunters to choose from.
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>>583490627
speak yo shit king, go write a book
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>>583488976
Probably nothing special.
Only thing people here have come up with is piss toughness, but who knows if that'll happen at all.
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>>583490940
was that a design issue? I never thought it was a problem there were always plenty of games and everyone felt unique in them i hate getting another person who is my class now
i miss the flirting, we are never going to see sienna saltzpyre fairytale ending
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>>583491104
She's already stealing veteran and zealot's entire arsenal, might as well take their gold toughness too.
Really though, there's no way she won't have it while zealot does.
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>>583488017
I really never had a problem with character collisions in VT2 unless I wanted to play a new DLC career shortly after release. The careers were so well designed that there was always someone that I was happy to play as. I guess it was a problem for trannies who refused to identify as anyone other than the elf or Sienna during the days that the witch was op.
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>>583479094
No way. Wouldn't scouts also mean a Chapter getting involved? Which means the game ends?
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>>583491616
Not if Admonition escalates.
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>>583490627
let me tell you something
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>>583491357
I distinctly remember them even talking about this. People were mentioning Wolf Priest of Ulric as another potential character or a Kisleviete and Fatshark had article even about this iirc where they said they don't want to do that since adding characters like this increases amount of connections between characters. And it gets worse and worse the more you add. Similar reason Payday2 characters got worse, I remember this being used as an example.

Multiple personalities for classes in DT should solve this, but they are too cucked by character creation to have actual flavor.
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>>583490627
Super underrated Primarch honestly his daemon form is so cool
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>>583490000
I sure hope these digits don't mean Apollo has bestowed you with the gift of prophecy, Anon...
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>>583488063
when is that NOT the case at this point
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>>583491380
Zealot preacher gets gold toughness because their faith comes from the heart and is pure.
Novitiate doesn't get gold toughness because their faith is from indoctornation and pushed onto them.
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>>583488801
Psyop of what
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>>583492457
The novitiates that don't gel with the faith get put in the penitent engine, silly.
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It reads the scripture sincerely or it gets the electroflail again
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>>583492457
novitiates can still use miracle dice
indoctornation works
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>>583491616
It's completely retarded for a Chapter to send Scouts, who are the lifeblood of the Chapter and most inexperienced members, on incredibly risky Inquisition operations with lots of fighting, when you can send full Astartes or Girlyman's new Vanguard Marines to do stealth operations.
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>>583492851
why dat skitty so zesty doe
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>>583492457
>>583493053
You only become SoB if you are fervent and devoted enough to choose it, if you aren't you can just go to the navy or guard after school, they need plenty of bodies everywhere.
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>>583493206
If the trust 30 humans survive the operations, then a scout will survive the operations. If the chapter in question happens to be one of the founding legion chapters, then they just draw more recruits from their successors anyway.
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>>583492851
>>583493306
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>>583492472
It's a targeted campaign to promote hyper sexualism, bigotry and transgenderism using gender bent male character. If you look at any of the art, its always saying something racist while being submissive towards the male protagonist.
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You did complete h40 spillway didn't you?
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>>583493916
I haven’t noticed that at all. Any examples? What would they gain from promoting all of those things are at the same time?
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>>583493916
it's just a merula rerun but it hit normies this time
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>>583468486
More base damage slower attack speed, this will also compound with its specials. Chain weapons should be slower than their conventional counterparts and so less forgiving on whiffs and poor cleave timing on spaced-out hordes, but should deal considerably more raw DPS when landing every hit. Conventional weapons will crit more by simple fact they get more chances, while chain weapons are more likely to meet the breakpoints to sweep aside enemies on the first try.

Contrast for example how the chainsword works right now. The best build is the mark 13g built for crit, and then you just swing it wildly at high speed until hordes are dead, while using the overheads of this mark to deal with heavies (mediocrely). It really doesn't give the impression you are using the iconic chainsaw bat.
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>>583493431
For every operative that become uber 1337 Mortis Auric oper8ors, there's hundreds of dead trust level 1 shitters. Asstardes can't survive this kind of attrition.
Also, there's no reason why any SM chapter will send ONLY their scrubs to Atoma when Atoma is the most important world on the planet, they'd commit a whole strike force's worth of plot armor.
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>>583495396
Aspirants that make it into the scout company are already in the upper percentiles of combat proficiency compared to unaugmented humans, anon. Space Marines aren't strangers to high attrition.
>Also, there's no reason why any SM chapter will send ONLY their scrubs to Atoma
But there is a reason they would send scouts with the warband, and that's to train and gain experience.
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>>583495396
the rest of the strike force is on the other hive cities having more fun than us
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>>583495663
Or they can just deploy normally in Scout Squads like their good book says
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>>583495905
Not all chapters are codex compliant, in fact most of them are only nominally codex compliant. Not to mention Guilliman himself made it clear that it was supposed to be treated as a set of guidelines rather than actual rules.
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>>583479871
vt2 women are horrifying
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>>583493469
>none-zero chance that one of the SOB voices is Minthara
Holy sex
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>>583495905
Fuck the codex.
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i want playable xenos in darktide, fuck the lore.
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>>583496143
i like her voice but why are these novitiates 50 years old
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>>583484440
>>it's a mesh of cybernetic muscle that feels like wearing a second skin
If you have a black carapace, yea.
Which humans dont have.
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>>583496039
And most of them don't even trust the Inquisition. Imagine losing your promising Aspirants because the warband's Explicator had a woman moment. Rannick may flash his rosarius all he wants but he himself doesn't even control the Imperial war effort on Atoma.
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isekai'd warrior priest in darktime when?
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>>583493916
>If you look at any of the art, its always saying something racist while being submissive towards the male protagonist.
But that's pretty much Malfoy's character: petty "highborn" who's racist to everyone but quickly submits to anyone with power.
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Is there a way to play Auric without modifiers? Quickplay always throws me to games with modifiers and whenever I host a normal game no one joins
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>>583497003
The mechanicus doesn't trust the inquisition either, but skitarii. A lot of things are on the table at this point, but you go ahead and move the goalposts again.
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>>583497164
There's so many Cadian "survivors" in the galaxy, you'd almost think the whole thing never happened!
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>>583497019
The crossover event is never happening, you will never get those banners
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>>583496952
that shit's retconned, sisters have the funny power armor interface dots just like marines do now
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>>583497205
No, the modifiers are the hallmark of Auric. If you want to experience "base" Auric, do Damnation with a high intensity modifier.
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>>583497525
They don't have the black carapace, those are just uplinks to the mind impulse unit, which are decidedly less efficient than the carapace.
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/!\ ALARM /!\
/!\ THE RATJEET IS HERE /!\
/!\ ALARM /!\
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>>583497347
there's still the weapon pack and something else big happening for VT2 atleast. i personally want them to release an extreme mode where it increases enemy count to darktide levels of enemies for champ/legendary difficulties. I find vermintide to be much more mechanically satisfying to play still but the playerbase is really small these days.
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>>583466932
real psyker players know that a pure smite build is the way to go
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>>583497958
All they have to do is to unfuck Deeds and let us select them at whim
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>>583497758
The black carapace is described as "a direct link between the central nervous system and the armor"
what do you think those ports are? fancy latches?
that IS black carapace, dummy
https://youtu.be/cVfqKe4z9zs
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>>583496543
I give a fuck, the lore doesn't even prevent it from happening. It's entire possible and even likely that Brahms has a tribe of eldar aboard her ship.
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>>583495396
>Asstardes can't survive this kind of attrition.
Sure they can. They’re practically tailor made for situations where they’re outnumbered by a weaker enemy with how long they can keep fighting
>there's no reason why any SM chapter will send ONLY their scrubs to Atoma when Atoma is the most important world on the planet
What?
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I wish they would add xenos to the game so I could smash the skulls of the xenos in fuck xenos kill all xenos
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>>583498164
It's a fibrous black material that interweaves with the central nervous system entirely, the connection points are cut in after it's finished growing, but those aren't exclusively to marines. Sissy plugs link to wholly lines that go up to the MIU implanted into the brain. Similar things, but different, inquisitors get the same treatment if they're the type to wear power armor. As an interesting side note, Custodes don't feature this at all, their armor literally just works without any direct link between it and them.
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>>583497164
Exactly, the female angle adds the ‘bratty tsundere who needs correcting with a good dicking’ too
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did SM2 really need yet another progression system that they'll inevitably break, I just looked at the patch notes
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NO DYING TILL I SAY SO!
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>>583498646
THERE IS ONLY WAR
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>>583496543
The lore is important. It *can* happen, but the correct narrative needs to be followed and the hurdles cleared first, that’s all.
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>>583498529
Sister models did not include the ports before, they do now. At some point someone decided sisters needed the same power armor interface marines have. You're never going to hear another official mention of sister power armor interfacing being inferior to marines ever again in your entire fucking life.
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>>583498689
>The lore is important.
meanwhile a group of 4 nobodies kill daemohosts and beasts of nurgle with 0 effort.
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>>583498689
Corsairs looking for a good time, Nurgle cult looks like a laugh. Don't click, it's a jumpscare.
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>>583498689
Grendyl hiring freebooterz to trash the underhives would be kino.
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>>583498632
No, it didn't. And I don't get what's with the obsession of adding low effort and useless game modes and difficulty levels which only split playerbase those devs have. Both Saber and Fatshark are like this.
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>>583498872
Marines have black carapace. Sisters do not have black carapace. Simple as.
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will we ever get chaos wastes in darktide or is it too late for that now?
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>>583496543
I only want them if they look like that
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>>583499070
It would be too similar to expeditions, so it's over.
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>>583499181
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How do we bullshit a reason for Eldar to *willingly* go down a sewer to fight 400 billion zombies with a HIGH chance of death? Furthermore, how do we bullshit a reason for Eldar to help the inquisition?
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>>583499039
>Gleebles have bazooble. Bamberlambs do not. Simple as.
No one cares. Power armor interface ports are power armor interface ports.
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>>583499070
I think fat shark won. I don't care about chaos waste anymore. Don't even know how it would fit into darktide anyway. Havoc has been the only mode that is given me the same amount of entertainment. I kind of hope they increase the havoc levels at some point and make it absolutely crazy.
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>>583498419
Asstardes are a scalpel that drops deep into enemy territory to take out important targets, not hold ground and attrition the enemy like the Guard, Sororitas or Skitarii do. No Chapter also deploys their 10th company (Scouts) on its own, when they do the logical thing and attach Scout Squads to the battle companies going on missions so they can gain experience.
Point being, there would at most be a couple dozen Scouts if a Chapter joins in, and they would be conducting recon for their company, nowhere enough to just give an Inquisition warband making questionable progress.
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>>583499070
Never ever. Enjoy your shitty swedish bootleg extraction game mode nobody asked for instead.
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>>583498873
They aren’t nobodies depending on your background and those things have varying levels of power
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>>583499587
>They aren’t nobodies
but they are, the entire premise of darktide is that you are a bunch of lowly rejects. fatshark was actively trying to avoid putting in lore powerful classes. we will never get a full on sister of battle or space marine because they would break the narrative of what the series was trying to be. enjoy your HIV cum.
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>>583499469
>not hold ground and attrition the enemy
Imperial Fists hold ground...
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Okay but what about the Alpha Primus?
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>>583499469
That’s not the typical reason they’re deployed, yes, but things don’t always go as planned, and in that case the Astartes capability to fight for days on end without rest/food/water is absolutely invaluable against horde enemies like Tyranids, Orks, and yes, Chaos cults of this size. They’re not outside of their element by any stretch of the imagination if they were to get bogged down by a high number of enemies. I don’t disagree about scouts.
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>>583499859
We started out as pieces of shit but at this point we've killed more beasts of nurgle than the average Primarch. We aren't nobodies any more, unless you want to argue semantics.
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>>583499859
>but they are
Nope. Not at all of them anyway, the backstories range from you being a nobody to being an accomplished hero who’s done stuff like survive a Drukhari attack. Rest of that is true though yeah.
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How do I play Havoc? I am level 0 and nobody wants to join my server and I can't join anybody because they reject me
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>>583499181
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i've never played havoc since i just solo que aurics. i don't have friends that play the game and i don't want to trust random autists for a game i only randomly dabble in.
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>>583500574
What's your build?
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i wish i could play as a fire warrior. this is canon btw.
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>>583499419
I care :)
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>>583499936
And they're one of the biggest jobbers that became a mutt chapter full of their successors after being completely wiped out once.
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caustic soooda
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>>583500660
Thanks to TTS, every time I read mon'keigh I hear mon'kek
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>>583500972
>akshowwy dontchoo all know dat like sista uv badwols is wowse at usin powah ahmeh?
the last thing anon utters before his mandatory penis crushing appointment is booked for him
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Do I get to choose who crushes my penis?
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>>583499407
A Farseer told them to jump into the meatgrinder, so they did. Getting millions of eldar to kill themselves over a bad dream is easy, and stopping a greater daemon from getting a stronghold in the future is one of those things they occasionally care about.
Make it some no-brand fanatical corsair/outcast groupies that are all about doing what that radical Farseer says, so you can do whatever you want with them.
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>>583501343
You are on HRT, you have no right to be speaking of penii
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>>583501457
>I know what will prove I'm not a social retard
>I'll accuse him of being a tranny
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>>583501435
Why don't we just let those perfidious xenos and vile heretics kill each other off then wipe them both out huh? It's what those knife eared fucks would do to us anyway.
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>>583501556
You didn't call me a liar
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>>583501648
Yes or no question: Does your mom know you're gay?
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>>583500686
I've gotten to H40 4 times using nothing but random groups. It's not that bad desu. The real problem is whatever your timezone is. I live on the West Coast but because of when I can play that means I have to connect to Euro servers usually or maybe East Coast since for whatever reason there's no one on West/they all swap to East like me
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>>583501430
You used to but sadly the job has been automated and the AI assistant doesn't even have a sultry voice.
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>>583501920
Is the voice at least funny
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>>583502182
Would it help?
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>>583502358
I guess
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>>583502464
then it's AI Robin Williams and he says "Wuh oh! This is one pancake you wouldn't want with your breakfast in bed! ZOWZA!"
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>>583500762
Ogre Cruncher. Somebody finally joined and we easily played through with 2 bots
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>>583501858
west coast is probably the deadest havoc matchmaking server, everyone plays on east
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>>583500574
Have you tried doing auric maelstorm to get bumped up to havoc 16? Around there's usually a bigger pool of players, if that's a difficulty you are ready for.
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Can I rant about Space Marine 2 here? They made an ordeal (cheevo) for Vanguard (gay nigga class) where they have to use their grapnel to execute five times in a row without taking damage. The main complaint about Vanguard (other than it being the gay nigga class, and his perk tree being shit) is that he's literally designed to be a kill-stealing bitch, so if you're playing any melee-centric build where you trade in order to get off a big dick attack then execute to get your contested health back, now if you have a vanguard present he's even more likely to swoosh in, steal the execute, and leave you eating shit because the game is actively incentivising him to do that. And the one thing vanguard brings to any team (because it sure as shit isn't damage) is his perk that allows anybody to recover HP from executing extremis enemies. Except now the faggot fucking cunt is going to steal those executions as well.
>just execute them before he does
That would be great if not for the fact he can execute enemies via grapnel at 30% HP, so you literally can't execute them before he can. Epic fucking game design Saber you twats.
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>>583504091
I have done maelstroms but they give me no havoc levels
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>>583504259
On auric?
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>>583504330
Yes. I just did one and it gave me nothing
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>>583504167
lol
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>>583499070
Most likely no because Chaos Wastes was outsourced to another studio called Toadman Interactive. And from what I know that studio doesn't exist anymore.
But honestly speaking, they could very, very easily make chaos wastes for Darktide already.
>they made havoc for enemy modifiers
>they made mortis for all the player boons/abilities
>they made Expeditions, which isn't exactly "random" but it is somewhat procedurally generated
So combining all of these but bringing them to more regular style Adventure maps (what the base gamemode is called) would make for pretty fun Chaos Wastes style gamemode.
Though one big part of CW is also the weapon randomization/gambling. But that unironically would not ever work in Darktide because half the weapon roster genuinely sucks ass and isn't good, and 90% of the blessings in this game are worthless.
Like imagine if you were playing ogryn and you got a bully club and decide to gamble the weapon, only to get something like Perfect Strike and No Guts, No Glory for blessings.
That weapon would be completely bricked and useless.
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>>583504167
you can literally execute them before the grapnel completes, because thats literally one of the main problems with that perk
also the 30% is the not the regular execute window, its higher than the actual execute window and the game doesnt tell you that the grapnel can execute
only person that cares about executes is vanguard, assault and bulwark have easy access to armor through gunstrikes
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Since novitiate doesn't come with power armor I guess the heavy ranged weapon idea is not happening for the class?
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I really don't get why some of the havoc modifiers don't appear on other missions or why some Maelstrom stuff doesn't appear in havoc. Would really spice up the game if occasionally the regular missions were spicier
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>>583498889
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>>583504797
My Daddy works at fatshark and I asked him why they haven't made chaos wastes in darktide yet.
His response?
>"We can't, we don't know how to do it anymore."
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heres an idea: delete expedition mode entirely
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>>583507354
and reuse the assets to create proper missions in that biome
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>>583507354
But that'd make Victor Magnuson sad...
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>>583507496
yes
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will she ever get her own game?
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>>583507354
millions must play expedition
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>>583507621
hmm nyo drugs bad
*stimms*
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>>583498873
The daemonhosts the Admonition makes are clearly weak bargain bin daemonhosts.
Basically daemonhost's power entirely depends on what kind of daemon has been bound into the body and how good/adept at doing it the person doing to "binding" was.
It's never been stated and this is pure speculation but it is possible that all of the daemonhosts we find are just Admonitions "failures", they are basically experiments.
What could they be experimenting for you ask? Well think about Dark Communion, it was pretty obvious that the cult leaders were trying some sort of daemonhost binding ritual and wanted to bind a Great Unclean One, the daemon Kulgarod, into Rodin's corpse.
Obviously, this failed because we disrupted the mission but it "worked enough" that Rodin's soul was brought back to real space.
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>>583507354
>admitted design decisions were mistakes
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he was better in vermintide.
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>>583496543
>>583498689
Corsairs being the next class would make the most sense since we have that unindentified eldar vessel mentioned in the mortis trial things.
And inquisition asking the Corsairs for help would make sense since the situation is escalating.
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>>583508780
Who on the Mourningstar would be so retarded as to trust the perfidious Eldar not to backstab us?
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>Zealot Thunderhammer buffs
It's so fucking juicy. I'm afraid they're going to nerf it. You essentially trivialize bosses, and the CC isn't bad either. It does pretty much everything now. Demon hosts are a joke. You don't even need to pop Fury of the Faithful. Two charged taps from the thunder hammer and they're done.
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>>583508997
the same guy who brought the actual criminals onboard
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>>583508997
Eldar don't backstab humans all the time. The ones who do the backstabbing are the Dark Eldar mostly, not Corsairs.
Also since the situation on Atoma is becoming worse and worse, the Inquisition and Imperials left in the system don't have much a choice when in comes to help they can get.
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i can see it being a sisters of bagging broad and the mechanic is instead of peril its faith or something like that
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>>583509281
We humans have to stick together, never trust an Eldar.
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>>583509320
>pray a little too hard
>your head explodes
Kek
No wonder they are Novitiates still then.
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>>583509164
which mark?
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>>583509450
Eldar is more trustworthy than some jittery, fent-gger, lowborn, from the underhive who only shoots up frenzone and drinks hooch.
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>>583509459
yeah I can see some fire gimmick where if you "channel the emperor" too much you light yourself on fire/explode.
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>>583509758
Commissar sir, this one right here.
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>>583508653
Darktide still copy pasting from Vermintide
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>>583508780
That doesn’t necessarily mean they’re going to be playable or even offer to fight alongside us. We literally have no idea why they’re following us or what they want. We also have no idea what kind of Eldar craft it is iirc, could be a Craftworlder. There’s other people they can ask before or look to for help before they even entertain the idea of fighting alongside Xenos, to say nothing of the Arbites and AdMech and even individual characters like Morrow who definitely won’t be on board.
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>>583507621
It would be cool but I doubt it she’s just too daring
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Watched a darktide streamer for the first time because I'm shitter and wanted to see havoc 40.
Dude only talked about the special gum he's chewing to strengthen his jaw and how this gum has become to easy and needs stronger and stronger gum.
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>>583509469
I forget the mark. I use the horizontal heavy sweeps one that has light overheads. You still get the charged overhead, so it's fine for boss killing.

The heavy sweeps are great for CC, and you pretty much 1-shot all chaff and most elites if you hit them in the head with a charged sweep. Even if you don't do headshots, you can run in with a heavy sweep and follow up with 1 light, and they're dead. They'll either be knocked down or staggered to the point of complete helplessness. They've made it so it swings fast enough (assuming you're doing marthydom) that it's practically brain-dead. There are some other attack speed talents you can get as well to make it feel extra snappy.
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>>583509303
>>583508997
eldar are less likely to openly backstab us and more likely to do what the necrons did with the blood angels and just slowly retreat from the scene while leaving the imperials to take the brunt of the casualties (they would both do this to each other if given the chance in fairness)
>>583509758
thankfully that doesn’t describe most of them…
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>>583511023
>copypasta game is copypasting from the original copypasta
More news at 11
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>>583511591
watch chocob instead, he is based and runs the shittiest builds imaginable while struggling to communicate with his entirely english chat (he speaks japanese)
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>>583511591
Jawlet
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>>583512015
vermintide still has the best melee combat for the genre. darktide made it too spammy and too many of the mechanics were dumbed down to make the game easier.
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>>583512380
Immaculate bait
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>>583512106
Isn’t that the one demonie keeps cucking
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why doesn't darktide have spears or polearms yet?
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>>583512706
lost archeotech
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Anytime there something new in SM2 I play it for 5 seconds and go back to Darktide. What went so wrong in that game
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>>583512467
I agree with him too, Darktide clearly started leaning into appealing to retarded cod gamers too much so now you can just clear h40 without ever using melee
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>>583513097
the encounters are too much parry slop and style than any substance. tide games have rewarding gameplay while sm2 is just bloated grind with shallow gameplay the entire time.
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>>583511043
>That doesn’t necessarily mean they’re going to be playable or even offer to fight alongside us.
If they are meant to be some 1 off thing they would have already left and the devs wouldn't have this secrecy about them if they are just nothing.
>We literally have no idea why they’re following us or what they want.
They want Grendyl. It is obvious.
>We also have no idea what kind of Eldar craft it is
Craftworld or corsair, if it was drukhari the characters would be way more concerned and would have mentioned it. Also Drukhari ships don't just show themselves, they would stay cloaked until they attack the Mourningstar and either kill half the crew and kidnap 90% of the crew to be slaves.
>There’s other people they can ask before or look to for help
Like fucking who?
Guard is already here
Admech is here
Arbites are here
Even hive gangers are here.
Ecclesiarchy in form of sisters are coming with Novitiate
So what fucking faction is left?
Fucking stormtroopers? What our veterans already basically are?
Marines? Those certainly won't happen because the devs themselves said no to the whole idea.
Squats? Also no because the devs want to make a short class because all maps are designed with humans and ogryns in mind. We don't even know if there are squats on the planet.
Kroot? Even more unlikely than eldar due to being even more inhuman. Also no mention that these cunts are in the system.
Ork? Even more retarded help idea than kroot.
>to say nothing of the Arbites and AdMech and even individual characters like Morrow who definitely won’t be on board
Grendyl and inquisition are the leading authority in the confict. What they say goes and others have fall in line .
Morrow would be one of the people onboard, he is the one who brought up the "maybe they just want to talk" idea.

Eldar are the only one that make sense.
Especially since next class will be revealed at 2027 Warhammer Skulls event. Eldar is a perfect hype class for that.
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>>583513451
theres nothing to say against the use of tau offering aid or orc mercenaries.

the tau are the only faction that would actually help the imperium without an ulterior motive.
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>>583513698
The tau are on the other side of the galaxy though iirc their empire isn’t that expansive and their FTL is pretty slow
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>>583513451
Rannick can wave his rosarius all he likes while the Admech and Arbites seethe, but alienating himself from them by consorting with xenos won't do him any favors when they start becoming uncooperative on a legal basis, and Arbites are known to turn on Radical Inquisitors.
>>583514613
Correct, Atoma is also in Segmentum Solar which is nowhere near Tau space.
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>>583514613
>lost damaged ship that crashes on atoma
>tau offer aid in exchange for passage back after the fighting

problem solved.
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there will never be a playable xenos in this game. you are smoking crack.
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>>583515084
>xenos are bad
>countless stories of the imperium teaming up with xenos to the point where its basically a must have now
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>>583515213
>>xenos are bad
Yes, now please proceed to the Commissar's office.
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>>583514826
Not solved. When he said the Tau was too far away, he meant it. The moebian domain is in segmentum solar, the Tau are all the way out in the eastern fringe, on the edge of the galaxy in segmentum ultima. There's no way for them to be in that part of the galaxy, not even through the startide nexus since that just spat them out elsewhere in segmentum ultima.
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>>583515567
>ship gets lost in the warp
>tzeentch spits them out to fuck with nurgle
problem solved again.
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Has Atoma been referenced in other 40k media before/after Darktide released?
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>>583515758
The Tau don't use warp drives, the first time they tried they caused the startide nexus, then the ethereals ruled out research into warp travel.
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>>583513451
There’s nothing that says they have to be a 1 off thing. They can be regular recurring NPCs that offer us vital info or direct us towards targets of interest. They can offer an active narrative presence in a way besides just being playable.
>They want Grendyl. It is obvious.
Why? How is that obvious? Who’s to say they don’t want a particular Chaos artifact hidden somewhere on Atoma? Or to stop another Rodin situation? There’s nothing obvious about this.
>if it was drukhari
Not true. Most people in the Imperium don’t even know what the Drukhari are or even what the differences between the different factions of Aeldari are. Everyone here barring maybe Brahms could very likely be completely clueless what trouble they’re in and have no way of identifying what they are until they get in closer. I agree that it’s likely CW or Corsairs but Drukhari aren’t above striking bargains with imperials for whatever reason either, even Mandrakes have lent their services for a time to humans and they’re particularly vicious even among Dark Eldar society.
>Like fucking who?
The hive nobles who could be sitting on a treasury of advanced gear? The wasteland nomads? More AdMech? Literally pick your poison. There’s a bunch of shit they could reasonably make up the same way they did with Hive Scum if they really wanted to.
>Grendyl and inquisition are the leading authority in the confict. What they say goes and others have fall in line .
Not necessarily. The Arbites literally got involved because by Grendyl’s own admission he couldn’t actually stop them from intervening after they deemed that they were taking too long. If the Arbitrators or AdMech want to raise a stink about it they can and will, to say nothing of people like Dukane. Morrow has already had bad experience with Xenos in the form of Orks (he believes he has anyway) and likely hates all Xenos by extension now.
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>>583515872
Rogue Trader did I'm pretty sure.
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>>583511591
typa allegories they hit you with at the
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>>583515882
>>583513451
Again, I won’t say it’s impossible, the Skulls event would be as good a time as any to show it off, but nothing thus far guarantees it’s going to happen, there are other candidates that could be drawn in if they really them to be, and Abnett has also had a history of writing Eldar helping humans out in ways besides fighting alongside them and we know that he’s offering active input, so NPCs are just as likely if not more so.
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>>583516256
AT THE WHAT ANON?!
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>>583516028
There was a crossover event where Darktide got a Von Valancius keychain while Rogue Trader got a pooper scooper weapon
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>>583516256
Oh my god, somebody got him
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>>583515882
>Most people in the Imperium don’t even know what the Drukhari are
It's a rogue trader ship and an inquisition warband.
They aren't "most people", they definetly know and recognize what is a drukhari ship and what isn't.
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>>583511951
based will try it out tonight
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I swear to God there must be some belief among slavgroids that if they don’t stick with the team they’ll lose their izzat or whatever those third worlders believe.
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>>583518696
Nope. Drukhari in particular are mystery even to rogue traders and a lot of the inquisition. There’s multiple quotes emphasizing this in the lore. They might know what Eldar are, but Dark Eldar are another story because of the very way they function and carry out their operations.
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>>583515882
>The hive nobles who could be sitting on a treasury of advanced gear?
Which we won't get to use. Spyrer shit is off limits, no power armor.
And the noblehouses are already invested in the war anyway. It's through the guard regiments, because they are the ones in charge of collecting and gathering the tithes.
>The wasteland nomads?
So hive scum again? Really? This is what you think they will do again when scum flopped badly?
>More AdMech?
We already have skitarii. And no, we are never playing as techpriests. Skitarii was the final nail in the coffin for that.
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>>583519074
No.
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>>583519074
we already have slav "people"
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>>583518912
>Drukhari in particular are mystery
They are not, this is blatantly wrong. The inquisition regularly make deals with them, so do rogue traders.
They are 100% aware what is a dark eldar ship and what isn't. The ship isn't a deldar ship ar all.
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>>583519102
source on scum flopping badly?
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>>583520184
NTA but the overall community fucking hated it (because the skill tree was a mess on release and the class is too hard for a shitter to grasp) and it was reviewed quite poorly as a result.
All the class DLCs are mixed, but skitarii for example trends toward the blue, and received favorable reviews after release. Arbites, while also mixed, has much more favorable reviews overall too.
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Any hive scum enjoyers?
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>>583522435
Me, but I'm no expert.
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>>583521403
I thought people ended up liking scum
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>>583522510
Fave ability?
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>>583522770
Rampage is the only choice
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>>583519350
Again, you’re just wrong. Neither of those organizations are a monolith. Some inquisition members and rogue traders knowing what they are does not mean all do. Their eagerness to betray probably isn’t even very well known going off past encounters like the whole Golden Throne ordeal and it’s literally their defining characteristic. Even Ordo Xenos members don’t seem to fully understand what they are and they’re literally the ones to specialize in alien species, meanwhile we’re just Ordo Hereticus:
>"What do you understand of the dark eldar?"
>"Very little."
>"Keep it that way. They are beyond abhorrent"
>Jared shook his head.
>"Even I do not know enough. No one in the ordo knows everything, for they are almost impossible to capture. I've never met one in the flesh, few people have, so your friend was fortunate, or perhaps unfortunate to have done so. But let me tell you what is known."
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The new DBS mark is literally just the hipfire and alt fire characteristics swapped? Bra fucking vo sweden
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>>583521403
all that’s showing is that opinion was divided on it. sales is what matters most to them and afaik it served its purpose there.
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>Doing crucible.
>Take FF debuff
>Tell the other two randoms FF is on.
>Rainbow armoured zoomer proceeds to multimelta one shot me 3 times

Done with pugs. Waiting for my mates to play.
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>>583519102
>Which we won't get to use. Spyrer shit is off limits, no power armor.
>And the noblehouses are already invested in the war anyway.
That doesn’t automatically Spyrer stuff. They can always arm themselves get into the action themselves to prove their innocence since we know Rannick is taking a closer look at them. It would be pretty thematic what with the recent Hestia revelation too.
>So hive scum again? Really?
This is just spitballing. If FS wants another HS situation then that’s what they’ll do and you have an awful lot of confidence in them to not try to do so again with how many questionable decisions they’ve made with this game already.
>We already have skitarii.
There are other AdMech units besides those. TP are still probably off the table but you have stuff like servitors still.
Going by your logic, Eldar is going to be the final class because there’s apparently nothing else they can do, and we know that’s definitely not going to be the case with how ludicrously good these things sell.
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>>583523743
It's less offensive than the Thugshit being a new weapon type for them to pad their announcements with having another """"new""" weapon
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>>583523743
I love this gun
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>It's not SoB
OHAHAHAHA
Oh my
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>>583509910
>>583509320
>Inb4 they will reuse Warrior Priest faith passive for SoB
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>>583484206
Nope. You are retarded.
>>583484440
They don't work like that, both Space Marines and Sisters of Battle do not have such free form of movement. Do I need to really rape you to death with the mention of TERMINATORS as well? Or do they not somehow count? HM????

Go on, tell me how terminators move just like they normally would.

How about the fact that Space Marines notably move faster without their power armor?
>They move like they normally would
Nope.
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>>583524339
Spyrer suits are rare archeotech, possibly xenotech, so it's not like every noble household in the Imperium has them, and they are also heavily specialized, which makes it even more unlikely for fartshart to model and animate different types of hunting rigs.
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The bait tranny is hamming up his sperging to punish the people who dunked on him once it became abundantly clear that the SoBs would be the next class
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>>583525318
But they didn't become the next class though...
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>>583525394
Retard
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If I wasn't familiar with fatshart, I'd say introducing SoB it the perfect moment for them to rework expeditions into an actual CW clone. You can dress boons as emprahs miracles, shrines as St. Messelina shrines from way back when, weapon altars as admech mini auto forges, curses as curses from Nurgle/Kul'garod, etc etc.
I mean it's the same engine ffs, can't they just reverse engineer it?
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>>583525797
The skitarii release was the actual perfect time
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>>583525705
You really gonna be mad in these threads for the rest of existence because you didn't get Sister of Battle?

_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Good.
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>>583525279
Yes, I agree, that’s supposed to say “That doesn’t automatically mean Spyrer stuff”.
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We'll never get a SoB lol get a novitiate instead lmao
>muh heavy bolter
hahaahahahahahahahahaha
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>>583525978
I don't care about the sisters. I only care how they play. Just taking pleasure in seeing the spergiest retards ITT getting curbstomped by the SoB leaks
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If you're neutral on the SoB issue then you can't help but notice that the anti-SoB posters are all incredibly cringy, brown and pathetic whereas the SoB posters are just harmlessly autistic
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>he spent the entire previous night repeating "NOVITIATE =/= SISTER OF BATTLE, HAHA!"
>he's going to spend another night doing it
the final cope of the "SoB never ever" gremlin
>if I shout loudly enough it proves no one is enjoying the idea of novitiate!
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>>583526309
>hebe SoB
>sword and shield
i will be the emperor's finest child soldier
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>>583526649
See what i mean >>583526804?
They're all retarded turdgolems
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Anti-SoB posters have the same smell and color as shit
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>>583526649
>harmlessly autistic
No such thing.
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>>583527120
I can't agree when i have the anti-SoB browngroids with whom to compare them
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>>583528017
uh oh melty
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I always get raped by ranged enemies and flamethrowers with Ogryn? How do I deal with those?
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>>583528090
definitely not the reply you wanted to go with if you wanted me to think that image didn't just anally rape you
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>>583528098
blow them up
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>>583528098
Shoot them
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Melk just sold me 61 dump power falchion
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>>583528142
raped his brown ass
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>>583505340
You cannot execute them before the grapnel completes when the vanguard executes them at 30% HP. It is impossible, you retard.
The perk says
>Grapnel Launcher can activate a Finisher not only on Incapacitated enemies but also on those who have less than 33% (except Terminus level), and Performing a Finisher with the Grapnel Launcher fully restores its Ability Charge
So yes the game does tell you, and combined with the new ordeal it's all vanguards ever fucking do. Gunstrikes get you less contested health back and don't make you literally fucking invincible when you've got ten snipers and two terminators with miniguns so they are worse in almost every way. Everything you've said is wrong. Jump off a bridge.
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>>583528341
61% dumps don't really have an extra %
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>>583528098
Grenade Gauntlet is a solid problem solver for ogryn. Strong single target removal for specials, widest suppression area for shutting down ranged enemies.
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>>583528606
the game literally doesnt tell you when the enemy is at the 33% threshold, that is what im referring to, dipshit, you just have to guess if theyre there
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>>583528998
nta but the enemy has a flashing color effect every time they're damaged that progresses all the way down through yellow, orange, and red, and vanguard can execute them at orange
also every vanguard running the execute build has hyper autistically figured out exactly how many hits it is to put any given enemy into that state
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I'm sorry, SoBchads. I was wrong
*bleaches my hair white and gets a bobcut*
I'm swinging with the Sisters now
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I started sucking more. That, or the havoc levels go a little harder at 20+.
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>>583529607
If you're struggling in sub 30 havocs then you just straight up suck
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>Novitiate
>crossbow
>flamer pistol
>meltagun
>sword and board
>???
>???
What's the remaining two melee weapons, chuds
>censer on a stick
please no
>whip
too based for fatshark
>combat sword, no shield
that's about lazy enough for them
>halberd
I can't find a single fucking source for them using it but this is a best possible outcome
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>>583529382
well the game doesnt tell you that information either, im not rainman, im not going to notice minute color changes when im running around with melta or flamer or any other weapon that flashes colors in that range, visual acuity is not the games strong suit, and thats not including the other enemies you have to deal with at the same time
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>>583528998
On top of the color flash the other Anon mentioned, you can also see where their health is when you lock-on. The game tells you all of this, both during the campaign tutorial and the individual class tutorials. Your small Bengali mind not being able to retain that information isn't the same as that information not existing.
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Was the new pajeet handler really necessary?
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Why has every single update failed to break this game out of 10k jail?
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>chart trooning
Oh he's THAT desperate for attention
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>>583530005
Melta wasn't listed in the leaks was it?
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>>583530005
Clearly the censer stick and staff of training so bolter-bitch-to-be doesn't get left out of the class exclusive club club with Arbites and Skitarii
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>>583532316
>play new content
>finish it
>go play something else because there's nothing left to do
The only people playing this game regularly are the kind of autists who sink a third of their lives into a single game.
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>>583532316
Because every single major update (and no, i am not being hyperbolic, it truly is EVERY SINGLE ONE) was almost immediately followed by several months of near-total radio silence from Fatshark. Next to nobody actually recommends this game to their friends as a result, so you don't get all that many returning players.
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>>583532774
>more blunt weapons
Great. Just what I wanted.
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>>583533010
It even shocks people too, aren't you excited for yet another zappy stick in the game?
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>>583533179
Incredible addition, very unique, it's not at all ANOTHER FUCKING RESKIN NUKE SWEDEN
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>>583526341
Uh huh lol
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>>583528017
You're so mad this is just sad, you're a child.
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I'm glad we'll never get sister of battle now, it's their just desserts.
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>>583534009
let him cope by pretending he's happy it's a novitiate
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>>583528098
Gunlugger.
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>>583528017
uh oh melta
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>>583532671
The model was found some time ago but the texture was just found with this round of leaks, I believe.
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>>583534009
>>583534181
>>583534308
cope

>>583534635
kek
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>>583535563
God what an awful artstyle
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>>583535639
I think its cute
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>>583528017
kek
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What is [base damage] and how does in compare to stuff like [strenght]?
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Strength is added unto all current buffs and base damage is only the unbuffed damage

If your base damage is 100 and your buffed damage is 200 then +10% damage will give you 10 extra damage whereas +10% strength will give you 20 extra damage
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>>583537156
strength affects damage, cleave and stagger
damage is damage
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>>583537398
So what is the difference between base damage and damage?
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>>583537872
damage is damage, its not that deep
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Which recon lasgun version is the best?
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>>583538261
XIII I think
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>>583538286
nta, but you sure about that, the damage is pretty low, that was one of main problems i had with recon, sure it has infinite ammo, but the damage is subpar, even on the damage variant
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>>583538801
>>583538261
Sorry I meant XII thats the version 99% of people use
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>>583538261
Blue version has the fastest fire rate, so best for application burn dot. You spray and let burn does the rest.
Brown version has slowest fire rate and decent of amount of cleave, so you may not need burn blessing, but can use Death splitter blessing instead.
But the point is using both with shocktrooper talent node on Crit. Have like crit chance perk will help.
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>>583526649
I’m neutral on it and have been for the past year but I can’t quite say that’s what I’ve noticed
>>583535639
The chibi psyker benefits from it the most yeah
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Zamn this Outlast Trials shit is pretty good
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Sister chads raped me so bad that i get PTSD whenever i see a bob cut
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>>583532316
>Update
>Players buy/reinstall in droves
>Finish new content and penances
>Reach havoc 40 again
>???
>Bugs don't get fixed
>DLC classes don't get new hats
>Servers get downgraded again
What else is there to do
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Why the fuck did they keep the useless potions from Vermintide into Darktide.
I'm not gonna memorize which color is responsible for which useless buff.
I'm not gonna remember that I'm carrying one.
I'm not gonna convince my teammates to pick that shit up to get it out of my sight no matter how many times I ping it.
I might pop it during a bossfight and perform worse than without one trying to play around the buff.
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>>583542832
It's not their fault that you're a literal retard with no sense of object permanence
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>>583542832
>red stimm (high priority) / blue stimm (low priority) to psyker
>purple stimm to shout/relic
>green stimm free but try to keep at least one
A good player can see the way things are about to go, proactively, and pop stimms in advance

So uhh I guess just keep playing until you get some degree of game sense
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>>583542832
You cannot possibly have thought anyone would take your side while typing up this garbage
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>>583543372
>A good player can see the way things are about to go, proactively, and pop stimms in advance
Nigga I just shoot zombie with a gun and then hit them with a stick.
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>>583544461
Ogryn lifestyle
>Doesn't matter. Keep killing until killing works.
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>>583543372
>purple
it is yellow THOUGH
also fuck the vermintide niggers lol lmao fuck off
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>>583538801
>the damage is pretty low
>on THE strongest gun in the game
You are estupido, put some rending and brittleness on that motherfucker and some crit and some goddamn damage
Basically skill issue, learn how to build n00b
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>>583542832
You're the retard I have to spam
>I need healing!
>I need healing!
>I need healing!
at to get them to remember they picked up a health crate
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>>583545509
yeah, it was still worse than iag, if you have actual skill in making headshots, iag does way more damage, its like 2.5 instead of 1.8
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>>583538261
Any mark except the fastest firing one, it is a complete waste of ammo and has the worst spread at mid range.
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I feel like im not doing any damage with arbitrator, that could be the fact im still leveling his weapons and don't have the electric dmg+ blessings on his mauls, but it feels like my skitarii/ogryn was doing far more
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For the second mission in a row, I’ve been left all alone simply because the other shitter leave after dying.
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>>583548269
Stop letting u- them die!
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>>583538987
What's the point of cleave on a ranged weapon?
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>>583549765
Blast through a nigga. Blast through two niggas. Blast through every nigga.
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>>583549863
Oh, so it means penetration. Why didn't they say that instead? Cleave means something entirely different.
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>>583547656
Early on, his melee weapons don't do much until you get your keystones but you're basically getting carried by your dog and your "rape everything in this corridor" shotgun
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Arbites shotpistol is much worse than I remember it
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>>583550520
It means exactly the same thing, attack damages multiple enemies. In this case of a melee centric game it is a standardization of terminology.
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ya'll gonna feel stupid when she's not playable but just some new npc
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>>583553520
>standardization of terminology
>darktide

lol
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Y'all gonna feel really bad when i kill myself because you bullied me for being wrong about us not getting sisters as a class
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>femboy-gayming joined strike team
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Where's the ratjeet? Is he safe? Is he all right?
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>>583554768
I caught them
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>>583530005
>What's the remaining two melee weapons
Unironically 2 maces. But hey, maybe 1 will be a power maul and not just another shockmaul :^)
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>>583554652
>Transister-of-Battle
>"Hi :3"
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>>583528017
>"i'm not butthurt!" he says
>proceeds to make a meme to prove how he totally isn't butthurt at all
They raped you and you're just spreading your ass for more.
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>>583554652
you crusaders sure have weird pics saved on your pc or phone
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>>583556332
What do you have saved?
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>sob isn't real
>the flame pistol and sword and board are just new weapons for zealot instead
Holy fucking kino
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>>583556436
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>>583556612
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am convinced this general is 10 people stuck on a loop
>>583556656
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>>583554652
this is just your typical irishoid
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>>583534651
the model and textures were already in the files for years
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>>583538261
This general is so fucking brown they can't give an informed answer. Fucking impressive.
For starters, you should never hipfire your recon las. All of them have pretty bad spread unless you aim down sights.
>blue
Fastest fire rate, best synergy with vet's brittleness talent, best for stacking Infernus, unexpectedly decent cleave. If it feels in accurate it's because you retardedly dumped mobility, which significantly affects its spread while moving and hip firing, dump collateral instead because it barely does anything on this gun.
Usually the premier choice because it's the most intuitive to use and spreads Infernus the best, even on non-vet classes.
>brown
Highest cleave, benefits the most from cleave increases (see: vet cleave talent), which matters in havoc. Lowest fire rate, which actually means it makes vet's Deadshot talent usable to really abuse the high crit rate + Shock Trooper. A solid side grade to the blue, but I would say it's ONLY good on vet. I don't see a reason to use it on other classes.
>green
I remember that it has the lowest amount of cleave (I don't think it reaches any cleave breakpoints easily), doesn't synergize with any particular talent, and just has a confused stat spread that makes no sense. I don't think it's even particularly ammo efficient. Easily the worst one, no point in using it.
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>>583557228
>in accurate
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>>583557359
AIIIIEEEEEEEEEE!!!
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>>583556729
Pretty likely at this time of the day
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>>583557228
green has better TTK than the brown one when you're going full brittleness, and better accuracy than the blue one at middle-to-long ranges

it is middle of the road, not better than the other ones but not complete dogshit, I run it sometimes on vet in AMs and it's okay. I hate the brown one and never use it, it's too slow for my taste and I do sometimes bring the blue one into me 'avies 40s
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>>583557410
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>>583557605
>better accuracy than the blue one at middle-to-long ranges
I don't remember ever, even once, hurting for accuracy with the blue recon las. It's adequately accurate if you don't tape down the trigger like a retard, and used on vet, you're immune to suppression. Maybe you're misremembering the times where vet had to invest a skill to get suppression immunity.
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Every smartypants its telling me to put the ignore hitmass blessing on the new ogryn hammer
but i don't like it when blunt weapons phases through enemies. The fact that it stops when hitting big targets is part of why it feels so good to begin with. So I'm torn between using the "correct" blessing, vs using what's more enjoyable.
Obviously in Auric i'll use whatever, but for havoc I feel pressured to appeal to metafaggot inspection. What a life.
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>>583558102
>but for havoc I feel pressured to appeal to metafaggot inspection.
You could just not use the memehammer in havoc because it's not particularly great in the first place.
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>>583557574
what the fuck am I looking at
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>>583558612
indian image
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>>583558612
way to dox yourself, Ratjeet
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>>583558228
I could just not play the game.
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>>583559045
Good riddance.
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>hebsob gets sword and board
>zealots dont
Can't even pretend to be a crusader in this game.
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Thammer feeling good, I'm having fun
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>>583559538
The retarded part is that Novitiates don't even get shields in their model line/rules.
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>>583559725
Is that something GW would let slide
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>>583559471
Okay cunt.
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>>583559725
>>583559771
They already get bolter, not used by novitiates, and plasma guns, not used by the SoB.
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I think I hate that new hammer on Ogryn
Feels like trash
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>>583559538
I mean its just one melee load out of of many considering what crusaders have used
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>>583560092
It's the Swedish devs curse. They know a lot of people love a thing so they make it miserable and useless so they can feed on despair and rage. Wait to see what they will do to the meltagoon
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>>583559725
Sisters of battle do, mongoloid
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>>583559725
>Novitiates don't even get shields
I'll give the doomers one more chance.
If Novitiates don't have shields in Darktide, I shall concede and admit defeat.
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Why people completly ignore flamers? they're easy to kill and can become annoying if left alive. If I don't deal with them nobody in the team will
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>>583561110
Shields with fleur-de-lis were already datamined. It would be weird they weren't there, guess it could be another melta situation.
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>>583560031
is it plasmagun p1 or p2
because p2 is probably plasma pistol
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So the new class will forever look like this right? Is there even a chance they add in cool sob armor or do we already know all the outfits
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>>583561290
no, we only know one armor set
there should also be at least dlc premium set and commodores vestures premium set
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>>583561159
>If I don't deal with them nobody in the team will
This is the case for literally everything in this game.
Snipers? You can ping them, you can have retards looking in the general direction, and they would sooner die than shoot them.
Bombers? They don't even exist.
Disablers? Darktards will leave a teammate netted, RIGHT NEXT TO THEM, with no enemies around, and then go down to being overrun.
Bosses? Nobody brought any boss damage, and they're all collectively panicking when a health bar shows up.
Daemonhosts? Run into and triggered.
Objectives? LOL.
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>>583561372
>Fixed an issue where the Psyker’s “The Quickening” and “Seer’s Presence” Auras could cause Ability Cooldowns to calculate incorrectly, causing untended increases in Ability Charges.
I knew it. Psyker was the cause of the cooldown bugs.
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>>583561514
This is grim, and dark.
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If a game has a full squad of 4 Novitiates then a random player is going to be promoted to a Superior for the duration of the game, getting a power armour and significant boost to stats, but if they are the final player standing then they automatically lose the mission. Bro trust me
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>>583561514
Only on the EU server maybe. I noticed better teammates when I switched to NA east
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>>583561514
For me, it's the bombers.
They are the worst, man, whenever I play an auric maelstrom game or two to destress from the 'avoques I'm the only one shooting these niggers.

They are LITERALLY

L I T E R A L L Y
I
T
E
R
A
L
L
Y

>LITERALLY
LITERALLY
>LITERALLY
LITERALLY

invisible to your teammates.
And God fucking forbid there's anything else going on that (You) have to take care of, like a Mutie dog flamer and a Pogryn at the same time.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>583561625
You can never entirely avoid darktards being retarded. All difficulties up to auric are overrun with useless shitters that immediately play the highest difficulty as soon as they unlock it, and no matter how often they wipe or instantly ragequit after going down, they will never, ever consider lowering the difficulty. After all, higher difficulty = more loot! And they can't do the math that failing missions repeatedly actually nets them fewer resources than just consistently winning lower difficulties, because number on screen = bigger when they pick up those 20 plasteel.
Your best bet is auric maelstrom where players are usually (but not always) at least vaguely competent.
You will consistently have competent teammates in the higher havoc levels, but that requires using the party finder, and I acknowledge that this isn't for everyone, and also sweaty tryharding isn't for everyone either.

>>583561707
On EU server absolutely. But the whole thing about malicelets plaguing auric is true across all regions. The main difference on NA is that you don't run into crippling language barriers, so when you shame someone for being retarded, it actually lands, instead of parsing as "gamburger gamburger gamburger" to the subhuman slavgroid or Jean-Mohammerde on the other end who doesn't speak English.
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>>583561851
MY GRENADES WILL FIND YOU
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>>583561707
>I switched to NA east
How's the ping?
Are you from the EU?
How would be the ping for someone from the southern europe?
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>>583561260
plasmagun_p1
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>>583561514
What bothers me is how reluctant people are to ping in general. I find it to be a very useful feature for more than just marking priority targets as it allows me to see if there are elites far away, identify if the coming horde is just Poxers and highlight enemies in general for easier aiming, yet I am often playing through multiple missions, even Havocs, with nobody pinging unless they're Veteran, Arbites or Skitarii.
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>>583561943
I'm from EU north, ping is like 100ms and I didn't notice a single problem. Even if I did I would never go back to the EU server this shit is filled with absolute glue eating retards
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>>583561514
UNLESS you are playing arby and ping it to send your dog on them and your team decides that this is when they should all focus it even when they're getting swarmed by other shit
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>>583561851
>God fucking forbid there's anything else going on that (You) have to take care of, like a Mutie dog flamer and a Pogryn at the same time.
This is why I personally put a lot more emphasis on the ability to just fucking obliterate monsters in auric. Instantaneously remove them if possible. Your retards most certainly won't, and if ever you divert your attention away from it to do anything else, the monster will kill your retards while they deal maybe 10% damage to it. I don't know how they manage it, but it's true more than half the time.

>>583561943
NTA but playing EU -> NA-E and HK is tolerable, but it will depend on your build. Melee is noticeably less responsive, and anything agile or fast attacking will likely feel bad. Ranged focused builds, and slow attacking melee builds are generally fine. The longer the distance across the globe, the higher the likelihood that you'll need to use a proxy, because for some reason fatshark's server connectivity is complete dogshit. I had several SECONDS of latency to HK until I used a HK proxy and then it was down to like 300-400ms which is playable. You just get raped by disablers because you can't physically dodge them fast enough, but that's an extreme case. EU to NA-E is fine.
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*bounds tag to the mouse's left button*
PING PING PING PING PING PING PING PING PING PING PING PING PING PING PING PING PING PING PING
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>>583562076
>100 ping
Guess that dodging the trappers will be harder, but shit I might give it a try.
Thanks, Sven Jurgenssön
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>>583562175
Thanks, you're making aiming much easier. Keep up the good work!
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>>583562175
triggered
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>>583559771
Obviously yes.
Even ogryn has weapons he normally doesn't have on the tabletop. There is already a precedent to giving weapons to a class that it shouldn't technically have access to.
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Ameribros should we welcome the EU migrants or stop them?
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Slaughterer or headtaker for thunder hammer
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>>583561110
>>583561226
It could possibly be that the fleur de lis shield is a deluxe edition weapon skin.
So both zealot and novitiate get access to the sword and shield but only the novitiate gets the deluxe cosmetic for the shield.
Only thing I do wonder about is if the sword will be a power sword or something. Since the name for the weapon internally in the code is "combatsword_shield_p1_m1"
What are power swords called in this game inside the code? Is it like "powersword_p1_m1"? If so then "combatsword" means stuff like devil'sclaw or heavy sword.
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>>583491971
At this stage, the solution for lack of Darktide characterisation is to increase the personality's interaction with the NPCs. Hestia, Morrow etc

>>583532316
I think it's not really a content issue, it's a matchmaking/community issue.
There should be a solid in-game system to keep track of players/characters that you've played with before, at what difficulty, what their build was and whether you liked playing with them and therefore want to play again. Then the game does things without player prompting to match-make:
>if a player you liked a mission with is online and they liked the same mission, the game should funnel you two together
>if a player you matched with before is usually online at a certain time, the game should give you a hint when that time is
>if a player you matched with has also frequently matched with another player, the game should suggest missions with them
>if a player you matched with on a certain difficulty frequently does a higher difficulty, the game should nudge you to it
>if you did a higher difficulty and then other players, even those you previously matched with, stop matching, then the game should stop nudging you

It's a coop game churn game. It's dependent upon other people playing regularly so you can play regularly so you want to buy DLC and cosmetics. So the game itself needs to encourage people to coopg, not rely upon the players to self-organise.

>>583558102
>The fact that it stops when hitting big targets is part of why it feels so good to begin with
Condition yourself to thinking about how the armoured target has blocked your pathetic little shrimp cruncher because it's so weak, and that's why your hammer has stopped.
Eventually you will feel an autoandrophilic euphoria when your hammer passes through multiple carapussies in one swipe.
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>>583562529
Both, thrust is a meme.
If you're not killing shit on zealot when the boss spawns you're doing something wrong.

okay seriously now you can run both but I usually run headtaker and thrust for pure bossbonking stealth, and slaughterer + thrust/headtaker for FotF hybrid oneshot/hordeclear; both work well enough in aurics.
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>>583562678
>So both zealot and novitiate get access to the sword and shield but only the novitiate gets the deluxe cosmetic for the shield.
This unironically sounds too immeasurably complex for fatshark to implement, so I sincerely doubt it.
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>>583562678
Mr estrogen went over this the other day, each type of sword is p+a number lile power would be p1 and heavy would be p3 and this new one would be something else
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>>583562529
headtaker is better for boss damage because you just need to hit the enemy to get the buff.
Slaughterer is better for horde clear though.
You can always slot in both, it's what most ogryns do with the pickaxe which makes it hit like a truck.

Thammer also gets skullcrusher, but I'm not sure how good it is for that weapon.
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>>583562678
Going off the leaked dauntless weapon list as they get the vet power sword: powersword_p1_m1
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>>583562740
Okay, I was already doing the second one in auric so I guess I'll just keep going
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>>583562076
Yes, bongs live in a sweet spot and have 90ms ping to NA East, you are probably somewhere close
For us slavs it's around 140ms and isn't as comfy.
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>>583562843
>Going off the leaked dauntless weapon list as they get the vet power sword: powersword_p1_m1
Based on this, is it cope to assume that they'll be more focused on ranged weapons (or, god forbid, support) than melee? Because giving the power sword to a dedicated melee class with good survivability would just be really retardedly broken. Beyond dueling sword on zealot levels of broken.
Because we all know they aren't nerfing the power sword, else China might finally nuke Stockholm.
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>>583563051
Good. Don't come here.
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>>583563068
They're gonna get melee, ranged, support branches just like every other class.
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>>583563192
I don't remember asking a gypsy
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>>583563201
Yes, I assume as much, but look at veteran. The melee side of the tree is generally quite underwhelming, especially because it takes away from your ability to reliably deal lots of ranged damage, and also because vet is made of wet toilet paper (in melee).
I can't imagine a faith-based class that's supposed to wear power armor, to be squishy in melee. Especially if we're going with the cope narrative of power armor being some skill or keystone deep in the tree that must be unlocked. And the power sword is the fucking power sword, it needs no investment to rape everything, so being able to invest into it just yields really overpowered results.
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>>583563068
>Based on this, is it cope to assume that they'll be more focused on ranged weapons (or, god forbid, support) than melee?
Maybe, but they also get the crusher and eviscerator. Ranged options not mentioned yet they also get are bolt pistol and flamer. Leaked alongside them are crossbows and flamers, with the melta being possible.
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>>583563375
>slav getting mad over the slightest implied insult to his "slavic """honor"""" (scrubbing the toilets for the westerners
A timeless classic. Keep crying Grzsczsczgrzsz Kszrzmzdzsdsdfmgfdslg342szich, maybe your tears will wash out those shit stains from your clothes.
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>>583563524
>Grzsczsczgrzsz Kszrzmzdzsdsdfmgfdslg342szich
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfKZclMWS1U
A fucking classic
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>>583563613
Why are the slavs like this.
Is this why they're so poor, too busy spelling they name and eating the hot chip?
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>>583563524
>gypsy begging NA and HK lords to carry him
>fantasizes about migrants
the irony
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>>583563068
>is it cope to assume that they'll be more focused on ranged weapons (or, god forbid, support) than melee
Yes. It's a DLC class, of course it is going to be OP as fuck.
But at the same time the power sword is so god damn clunky to use that 90% of the playerbase will just refuse to use it even if they know it is strong as fuck.
I play veteran already but I just hate the power sword because the fucking special shit is just cancer. It's neither fun or intuitive.
That's why I just use a heavy sword instead.
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>>583563889
You are the cigan, talk about the game not your nightmare haunted post-soviet desolate wastelands you call home
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>>583563948
You had me until you mentioned the heavy sword.
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>>583563396
Well there's no power armor for the SoB interns, so we don't have to worry about that.
I'm going by Hive Scum and Skitarii. They can both spec very hard into either melee or ranged, and both can be defensive or squishy depending on the build.
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>>583562843
So it most likely will be a regular sword + a shield.
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>>583564058
I wouldn't say scum can be defensive at all, as this just bricks your build into being borderline useless. The most practical survivability comes from Rampage, and it's not all that much.
Even skitarii have to do a slightly weird build to become truly tanky, but at least it's quite good here.

Although I guess you do have a point. It doesn't matter what I think is the case in practice. What matters is what fatshark intends in theory, and then Sw*dishly fucks it up by giving the class a power sword.
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>>583564083
It will be a power sword and shield
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>>583563957
>starts chauvinist banter
>loses
>t-talk about the game!
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>>583564041
Heavy sword isn't the best weapon I fully know that. But I prefer using it because it isn't cancer to use and works right out of the gate for the stuff it is good against, like maniacs, mutants and softer elites.
I just use kraks for armor.
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>>583564185
>sisters get a bunch of fun and cool weapons
>power swords are the strongest option but it's so unfun that people end up ruining their own experience
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>>583564232
This is what passes for banter in eastern "europe"? Grim.
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>>583564191
If it was power sword and shield then the internal name would be "powersword_shield_p1_m1" instead of "combatsword"
"combatsword" specifically refers to normal ones like heavy sword and devil's claws.
For example heavyswords specifically are referred to as "combatsword_p2" in the gamefiles.
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>>583564364
>>power swords are the strongest option but it's so unfun that people end up ruining their own experience
I dunno I kinda like the power sword. Then again, considering the number of posts complaining about the power sword because it just escapes the retard's ability to grasp using it correctly, I guess there's a solid chance it'll get in and remain completely untouched for several years, if they ever touch it at all. I just wonder how this will turn out in havoc. I've already had veterans hitting 300k+ boss damage, most of which was powered psword stabs + light followup and repeating. As in, actually just cutting off 1/4 of a full boss healthbar during NERFED chorus.

>>583564378
Eastern "European" banter, or turd-world banter in general, is just insulting each other's mother and talking about homosexual rape. I'm not joking. Even the posts in here that talk about this shit are assuredly 90% turdies.
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You all are smoking that fent laced krak kokaine if you thing we're getting a POWER sword with a shield.
It's just going to be the Kruber's S&S and you are soipogging over it like it's the second coming of the Christ.
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>>583564692
>thing
think', fuck me
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>>583564682
Constantly pressing power-up isnt fun, and it has nothing to do with skill
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>>583564682
The power sword fucking sucks, it requires a blessing to be remotely okay to use. They need to rework it, but the malicious swede just isn't having it.
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>>583564843
>>583564682
where's that "powers up sword" copypasta when you need it kek
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>>583564843
It becomes second nature once you do it enough. I don't even notice it anymore. Same with shit like wrangling the relic blade's combo into behaving.

>>583564876
This I completely agree with. It's terribly designed and the blessing system, in general, needs a complete overhaul, as it's just the vestigial leftovers from the retarded random loot gambling.
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>>583564682
I know about the power sword's push-stab > light followup attack patterns but for whatever fucking reason I just never get it to work properly.
Like I power up the sword, stab the cunt and it just tickles them.
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>>583565007
>It becomes second nature once you do it enough
Or when you use mods to automate the process, which is what 99% of the havoc faggots do when they start talking about "skill" in regards to a weapon feeling terrible to use
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>>583565007
>It becomes second nature once you do it enough
That doesn't mean it is fun or not fucking clunky as shit.
It just means you basically stockholm syndrome yourself into fucking "liking" it.
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>>583565085
>for whatever fucking reason I just never get it to work properly.
Yes, it's an issue with how Power Cycler is coded. You get some time between regular attacks, but Power Cycler isn't coded to include the push attack because Sw*den! This means you must spam leftclick until you hit the combo window and it automatically chains a light attack before Power Cycler can expire. This bug has been in the game for ages now, and in classic fatshark fashion, won't ever get fixed. But now you know what's causing this.
Power up -> push -> stab should always deal full damage as long as you hold leftclick while blocking until the attack comes out. No clue what's going on there, if this is what's breaking for you.

>>583565176
>Or when you use mods to automate the process, which is what 99% of the havoc faggots do
It's always funny when someone with 300 hours thinks he's hot shit and projects his inability to play onto others by way of calling them cheaters. It's even funnier that it's always some sour grapes havoc hater. Stay hardstuck I guess.

>>583565249
I like that the weapon is powerful and reliably kills things in front of me. I can live with the activation quirk. No need to schizophrenically diagnose what isn't there.
>NOOO BUT YOU DON'T ACTUALLY LIKE IT
Uh huh. Meds.
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>>583565249
Stop using words that you don't understand, shitter
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>>583477693
>the only zealot cosmetic I really like
>beard clips massively into the neck guard
ngghhh
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Anyone got the picture of the datamined weapon list that shows the sword and shield weapon?
I can't find it now.

>>583564185
By defensive, I assume he means Desperado. You count as dodging and there's mobility nodes to improve keeping distance from melee enemies.
And you can toughness maxx with the stimm.

>>583565007
>It's terribly designed and the blessing system, in general, needs a complete overhaul
All newer weapons seem to have gimped blessings or gimped versions of old blessings, so I think Fatshark want to nerf how much blessings contribute to the viability of a weapon and instead rely on the weapon's stats itself and the class talents.
But they're stuck, because overly aggressive nerfs will provoke The China Syndrome.
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>>583564185
You can be defensive by stacking damage resistance or you can be defensive by having six dodges. Scum does the latter.
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>>583565458
>I like that the weapon is powerful and reliably kills things in front of me. I can live with the activation quirk
I get that.
It still doesn't change the weapon is just terribly designed. Just because you get used to it doesn't mean it isn't clunky.
You can get fucked in the ass after doing it 10 000 times, doesn't the fact you're still getting fucked in the ass regardless.
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>>583566047
>By defensive, I assume he means Desperado. You count as dodging
Projectile immunity is comfy but not actually useful defensively unless you're doing objectives or trying to get a revive off. Sliding around is usually more than enough, so this is more of a shitter crutch than anything else. Same for skitty's shield or castigator's stance. Nobody that's actually decent at the game uses those because they're just crutches. Desperado is only useful for the offensive benefits it provides, which are decent, but not good compared to Rampage unfortunately.
>and there's mobility nodes to improve keeping distance from melee enemies.
This isn't something you "can" build into, but something you must build into, and would be retarded not to. I don't really count this.
>And you can toughness maxx with the stimm.
This is part of what I meant by bricking your build. A 100% viscosity damage focused stimm is incredibly powerful. Ruining it by going into toughness, or worse yet, chemdep and running low-ish viscosity, is just purely retarded. At least it's slightly less terrible now that bursters have been nerfed and accidentally tanking a single one no longer just outright kills you, but it's still not good.

>>583566109
See above. Scum doesn't have a "defensive build", it just has a good build that takes the good defensive talents. Even extremely offensively optimized builds take them, and I mentioned why doing the other defensive stuff is just plain bad unfortunately.
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>>583565458
>It's always funny when someone with 300 hours thinks he's hot shit and projects his inability to play onto others by way of calling them cheaters
Ah yes, the old classic 'the thing that always happens actually never happens' followed by projection and yet even more coping about how good you are at the game. Brave and stunning strategy anon
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Question
When a shotty hits both head and upper body, does it activate talents like Marksman and Precision Strikes?
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>>583567145
Just because you watch havoc jewtube videos of cheaters full time doesn't mean that every havoc player is hardcore cheating nonstop lmfao.
>I don't see it therefore it doesn't exist
Legitimate low IQ behavior. But I guess you gotta cope with being hardstuck somehow.
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>>583567323
>/cope/ finally dies
good
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>>583567323
If any of the pellets in the spread hit the weakpoint, it activates those nodes. For all intents and purposes, each pellet is considered its own projectile.
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>>583567393
>I don't see it therefore it doesn't exist
That was literally your argument yes, so I guess you are indeed low IQ.
>hardstuck
I bet if I filtered this only your posts would go away, you really are insecure about this huh
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>>583566376
>Scum doesn't have a "defensive build", it just has a good build that takes the good defensive talents.
A defensive build is a build that takes the good defensive talents.
Let's not get stuck in semantics.
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>>583567578
Curious that you're projecting insecurity when you're the one who's so hurt by the word "hardstuck" that you feel the need to filter it. Sounds like I was right on the money if it triggers you so hard.
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>>583567712
No I was making fun of the fact that you must be the exact same autist who is always in here trying to pretend like you're some ultimate authority on skill and balance and the moment anyone calls you out on it you always fall back on the exact same cope about someone being hardstuck or not playing the game enough. And when they show proof to the contrary your next step is to call it a "reddit screenshot". You're just pathetic and I find it funny how you think there's any saving face at this point lmao
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>>583567617
Sure, my intent is that scum still feels rather squishy even with the good defensive talents slotted, and the bad ones skipped.
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>>583567867
>schizoposting
Sounds like your feelings are really quite hurt, anon.
Consider how retarded your opinions must be if you repeatedly get called that.
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>>583568017
Uh huh, whatever you say hardstuck-anon, it's alright though the thread is almost over, you can pretend to be someone else next bake until your compulsive obsession to tell everyone just how much of a gigachad havoc gamer you are takes over and you out yourself again, that is
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>>583568189
>this is what getting DECLINED too many times does to the mind of the average autist
I think it's time to go hit up a mental institution or something.
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>surely if I keep doubling down I'll be the winner here
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>>583568392
Yes that's what you're doing. No amount of pretend nonchalance will make anyone believe that you aren't extremely assblasted.
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>>583568189
uh oh malicelet shitter YWNBATS troon melty UH OH
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>>583568928
looks like he struck your cervix
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>>583568928
what talking to samefag does to a nigga
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>>583568928
Holy fuck he mindbroke you
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Why is ratjeet samefagging again
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>>583570169
Why is water wet
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>>583570695
Water is not wet, it makes things wet. "Wet" is the property of an object being saturated with a liquid (usually water). Since water itself is a liquid, cannot be saturated with itself, and is generally not considered to be an "object", one would surmise that water itself isn't usually wet.
However, because alcohol molecules can move freely between water molecules, this essentially implies that water CAN be wet if it contains alcohol.
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>>583571034
This is wrong btw
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>>583571034
Watah's wet, sah
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This is my pure armchair game dev idea but would it be too OP?
A new talent for ogryn in the skilltree somewhere
>That'll Leave A Mark
>enemies staggered by you have 35% slower movement speed and attack 35% slower. Last 5s.

>Helping Hand
>Killing an elite enemy restores 7.5% toughness to you and allies in Coherency. Killing an ogryn enemy restores 15%. 2 Second cooldown.

>Humans Together Strong
>Killing an elite enemy grants 10% strength to you and your allies in Coherency for 4 seconds. 5 second cool down.
Just something I thought about, I like the idea that ogryn is a debuffer for enemies. But in my opinion there isn't enough talents/skills that reflect that.
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>>583568928
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>>583573279
>both of them are bored
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and with that, /copeg/ died until sister of battle released, the end
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Unless?
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>>583572592
>That'll Leave A Mark
this is shit, because ttk to extremely low, it would only be useful on enemies you cant kill instantly, which are usually bosses, but bosses are hard to stagger. even then i think applying brittleness on push is just better than fucking around with a debuff or just taunting them
>Helping Hand
its whatever
>Humans Together Strong
its okay, but it suffers the same problem of fast ttk already, i think it matters for ogryn than for other classes because most of their weapons are anemic so the fact that it affects other people is just a coincidence of why its being actually taken
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Neu
>>583574282
>>583574282
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>>583482328
Exaggerating, a lot of is definitely ugly but you have a good handful of good looking stuff too, I will say that the
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>>583515213
weird thing to say
there's been a lot of instances of it from our perspective but in the grand scheme of things it's definitely still an extreme rarity
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>>583556332
>crusaders
… what?
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>>583575240
anon was killed by his conscience before he could finish this lie
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>>583548269
You do good work cutie :)
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>>583562408
I don’t think you have a choice in the matter.
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>>583563396
>faith based that’s supposed to wear power armor
Considering these are literal interns it wouldn’t surprise me if neither of these were the case
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>>583512660
Correct
>>583564952
Never fails to crack me up
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>>583563730
>eating hot chip
I think you have them mixed up with latinxes.
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>>583571034
source?
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>>583541303
It’s pretty fun yeah the characters are great wish we could some like them in Darktide.
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>>583542092
>>583532902
Sad but true
This game could easily be hitting consistent 10k+ players if they actually stayed on top of it but that would take time and effort and that’s more than they’re willing to expend at this point
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>>583575240
>>583575548
- … cosmetic we’ve seen for Sister so far is one of the best defaults we’ve gotten for a class in a while.
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>>583481219
They’ve become less obvious recently though you can’t really blame them especially when they both say weird things
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>>583523545
That’s actually kind of cool honestly I like the idea of them being something people are unsure of
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>>583478416
>pronouns
that’s my line for you
not your previous rapist either
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>>583581626
replying a full day later when the thread is on page 10 is not really convincing
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>>583582067
whatever helps you cope



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