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Visual Novel General #7941

This general is for the discussion of English-translated Japanese visual novels.
All posting of untranslated visual novels belongs on >>>/jp/
E-celeb shitposting is not allowed.
Kindly use spoiler tags appropriately when discussing plot spoilers to facilitate smooth discussion.

>Having trouble with your VN? Try the following before you ask for tech support:
1. Be in Japanese locale
2. Read the Readme
3. Check https://rentry.org/4chan-vn-help
4. Copy error messages with CTRL+C and paste them with CTRL+V into DeepL
5. Google it

>FAQs, Recommendations, and Other Useful Things:
https://chartanon.github.io/moechart/
https://files.catbox.moe/j3dd0n.png (embed)
https://github.com/marisukukise/japReader

>Need a novel with a specific element?
https://vndb.org/g

>Download Links:
https://rentry.org/4chan-vn-links

Previous thread: >>583437517
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MUMBAImasa
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Was this a Fate reference?
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Continuing the Akiba Lost blogpostation from
>>583489283
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MAO and gambs where the FUCK is SakuUta why are you wasting tokens on translating shit nobody reads? Fucking FAGGOTS
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>>583491167
>scat-ji
No one cares about that slop. We are reading MAOtsuba and Saihate no MAO
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>>583491167
>mtl
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I installed the MAOhate no Ima and none of the options work... also, there's a process called "MAOcoin_miner.exe" using up 94% CPU and GPU...
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Why does everyone say that China is the future of VNs?
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>>583491456
better than meatbagslop
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>>583491526
same, wtf?
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>>583491534
Because they aren't stuck in the infinite moege rut that Japan's former juggernauts are. Japan has been in the game too long and has had to optimize the experimentation out of the medium to stay afloat on the backs of the sad, lonely meganeets whose tastes still shape the market.
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>>583491534
they're the majority of the market
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there's no way anyone has ever downloaded and read a gambs aka mao mtl btw
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>>583491870
>it's ignoring reality
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KINOmasa
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>>583491938
post proof of having a tl from them running on your pc, nobody outside of this thread has ever mentioned these two
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>>583491712
where are these chinese VNs then?
>inb4 gachas
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>>583491870
I tried, but the text wrapping on Oretsuba didn't work, so I dropped it.
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>>583492042
see >>583455029
>>583296134
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why read a vn when you can play something like hsr which is vn but 3d? chinks won
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>>583491167
https://store.steampowered.com/app/4818880
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>MUMBAI Novels
No thanks, I'll stick to gachaKINO
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>>583492290
I would rather read the slop churned out by gambs than buy SCATJI shit from steam, both are using AI but one is asking money for it
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>>583492373
You are from Coquimbo
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>>583492221
Yeah I already know MAO translates garbage who nobody reads
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>>583492687
>it's pissing and coping
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>>583492687
Well, that's not true. He translates good games INTO garbage nobody reads.
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cowards didn't follow through
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>>583491712
>optimize the experimentation out of the medium
Rhythm games are the future of visual novels
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Genshin Impact has much better story than any VN or game out there
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>>583493164
It's no Saihate no Ima
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>>583491712
You can thank gacha for that. The only meaningful advantage VNs have over gachas is that you can fuck your heroines as too many people are willing to be paypig cucks for the sake of the convenience of playing games on their phone. And since playstores will not carry lewds, this is where we are at.
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>>583493164
Read your first vn.
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>>583491756
Im interested. Go on?
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>>583493164
didn't ask, don't care, this is the thread for VNs
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>>583493238
That new Muv Luv gacha circumvented that, right? You can FUCK-fuck heroines there. including that fat one which I really wanna lovingly slam
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kek, wtf is this
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>>583490776
I have jerked off to Muramasa dozens of times but never played the game. What is she like? Is she as autistic as she looks? Are her nipples pink or brown?
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>>583493384
holy
what VN?
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>>583493345
yes, dmm has had gacha games with sex since the flash game era
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>>583493426
NTRGOD...
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>>583493238
most gachas have dogshit stories precisely because they need to be live service and shill you on new units, so story is often thrown aside to just jerk off the next banner unit instead.
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>>583491456
Modern MTLs are on par with if not better than human translators.
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Conjueror's review of Saihate no Ima:

https://web.archive.org/web/20191129040258/http://vnreviews.blog/2015/02/12/saihate-no-ima/
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https://vndb.org/w15834.1#last
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Good evenin /vn/ hope alls well
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>>583493832
what the fuck did he mean by that
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>>583493345
Yeah but those come with caveats and require workarounds. They also don't get nearly as much exposure and collabs as something would being put on google playstore or w/e the equivalent is. R18 basically has to fight a constant uphill battle manufactured by fuckhead politicians and corporations that doesn't exist for all age garbage
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>>583494124
>They don't get as much collabs
uh.. this is a good thing
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>>583493772
>Anyway, despite being extremely bored by its underwhelming characters, plot which is pretty much incomprehensible until you are given an encyclopedia, and needlessly cumbersome writing, I still find myself respecting this work in retrospect, if only for Romeo’s vast knowledge and imagination.
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>>583493643
You average paypig doesn't care as it's convenient since it's on the phone and passable enough to not deter them from wanting to gamble on new girls.
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>>583494292
okay but what does that have to do with visual novels
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>>583494124
Unfortunate, for sure. Hopefully we can reverse this mega puritan push in the past couple years.
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>>583493426
She is like Saber
Her nipples are red
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>>583494194
No...no it's not a good thing cause collabs brings more eyes -> which means more customers -> which means more money -> which means more content of that nature gets developed.
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>>583493520
Kaseki no uta
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>>583494408
Hate to be the bearer of bad news but it's only going to get much worse. The only silver lining to this is the all age puritan goycattle are gonna get what they fucking deserve too when big brother payment processors and AI comes to censor what they like, after years of supporting this retarded puritanical witch hunt against anything erotic.
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>>583494445
>nonsensical collab with a completely different product wasting the writers and reader's time
>b-but think about the money they'll make!
a very good thing, that's why most gachashit turns out to be slop
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>>583493426
She is a brown from MUMBAI.
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>>583493426
She is tanned like Yukikaze, but her skin is white underneath her dress
She is also from Agartha
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He was MUMBAI, she was masa
Can I make it any more obvious?
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>>583494785
Or you know, just consume porn through actual porn/hentai instead of being a fucking weirdo who needs to have his porn attached to his video games resulting in both just being made worse by the other.
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Why hasn't anyone QC'd muramasa or umineko yet?
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>>583495509
too long
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>>583495305
She's just like me...
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>>583490776
Is this why the game is called Negromasa?
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off-model sloppa
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>>583495470
>low iq take
>manosaba fan
every single time
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>>583495576
uminegros headcanon
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>>583495679
>it's afraid
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>>583495828
>negromasa melty
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>>583495470
troooka nooookem
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>>583495616
All of Rokuhara had her.
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Navel...genuinely fuck you for not letting us correct this brat.
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>>583495616
Cute rokuhara onahole
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>>583496029
Forgot pic.
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>>583496016
>>583495868
room temp iq and low t
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>>583496121
>it's crying
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>>583495509
Muramasa would be interesting, I might do it slowly later
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>>583496174
>it didn't deny it
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>uminegros getting uppity in KINOmasa monday
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I would be dragging this precocious little brat into the nearest love hotel and spend all night educating her with my dick.
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>>583495679
You know that I'm correct. Video games will always be regulated but art can be as degenerate as you want without compromise.
Besides who the hell even likes h-scenes these days most of the time when they show up I'm not even horny and then it's just awkward.
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>>583496360
Umineko reference btw
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>>583490776
>NEGROmasa Monday
PROCEED
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>>583496035
Top prose
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>>583496401
We call them ctrl-scenes for a reason.
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>>583493772
he should've read it in a language he can actually understand, kek
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Actual travesty she does not have a route cause she is easily top 2 girl.
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>>583496401
You can think what you like but there is no point in arguing with someone who is low IQ and confident about their ignorant and retarded takes. Read your second visual novel and you just might rise above the mentally deficient cutoff.
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>muh human soul
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>cuck Monday
Hell yeah
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>>583496401
Sounds like a you problem, maybe consider replacing your HRT with TRT.
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>>583496858
>improves your shitty jp script
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non nukige with sph?
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>>583496820
You literally gave up without even a single argument.
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>>583497087
literal fanfiction
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>>583497087
Ego-editing is not the same as translating. If you wanna be a writer, this is not the right place
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>>583497220
https://vndb.org/v18498
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>>583497298
>If you wanna be a writer, this is not the right place
wrong
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meatbags lost
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>>583497337
Seeing a lot of kamige tags, thanks
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>>583497262
>ludditors are unironically defending this shit
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>>583497249
“Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.” - George Carlin
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>>583497432
>POV: you are an eopiggy reading kaseki no uta for the muv-luv lore
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The woke agenda lost
Trannylators lost
JOPs lost
AI won
MAO won
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>>583497629
>Never argue with apothetroon
IDBLT
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>>583497629
Then you already failed that since you can't keep yourself from responding to me anyway despite knowing you are wrong
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>>583497637
yeah, i think i'll jop this one, this TL is literally unfixxable
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>>583495470
Yuritroon take
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Newfag here, are Mao and aisir the same person?
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>>583497862
No, but Quof and Flood are the same person.
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LLMs hit the human translation community like the nukes on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. I am not sure how it's possible to cope out of this predicament and not be demoralized.
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>>583497912
That’s been disproven
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MAO spammers translate Otaku Masshigura and Comic Party with Sol to make me kneel
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>>583497637
the japanese was indeed quite stiff and flat here, i'm glad the troonslator fixed it
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>>583497772
I only stated to you why I won't bother trying to engage in a debate to prove why your take is dumb and retarded as such an endeavor would be a waste of time. This is your final (you) from me so go ahead and leave whatever parting shot you wish to make yourself feel better.
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>>583497954
>afraid she
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>>583497914
muh water muh ai bad
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>/vn/
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TROONsaba
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>>583497967
>Otaku Masshigura
It's a prosege
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WOMANosaba
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>>583497805
how can you get this wrong? they literally rewrote the whole thing on purpose...
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Is Ayakashibito really this good? FGOchads told me that Higashide can't write
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>>583497914
That Albatross translator spent like a year on his tl I think? And now Mao is about to drop a patch before him.
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>>583498281
A "patch" nobody will use.
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>>583497805
What game is this and why not just have Astra fix it?
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>>583498189
>[retarded slopeaters] told me that Higashide can't write
...
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>>583497914
New people will think thrice before deciding to enter the field of translation and the old guard will die cursing AI. The world would still need the professional translation in very specific contexts.
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https://fuwanovel.moe/2026/10/sayooshi-fan-translation/
It's up.
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>>583498281
A "tl" nobody will read.
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>>583498336
>>583498423
jopcuck meltdown, you LOST
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>>583498394
kaseki no uta

33% of the lines have to be rewritten, i'm using sol 6.1 to fix
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>>583498417
Lilmongs...
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>>583498578
>X no Uta
that's how you know a game is shit
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>>583498421
MTL WONNED~!

we NEED to expose muramasa. i think i will waste all my next week's tokens on it
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>>583498189
Yeah, its good and extremely sovlful. its what shounen should be
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>>583498727
MAOBAImasa would be the final nail in the coffin for the TL industry.
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>>583498336
>>583498423
>it's so afraid it replied twice
Total trannylator death. Spare no one, MAO. Each and every one of them has to pay. Astra is the guillotine and you're the executioner.
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>>583498874
Why do much hatred? What did we even do to you?
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We all love DERQ, Manosaba, In Falsus and MoonHack here
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>>583498727
What'd you waste THIS week's tokens on? It's only Monday...
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FGO won
Shitual novels lost
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>tfw no unemployed, depressed drug addict catgirl heroine in her early twenties who becomes increasingly disillusioned with life as her living situation worsens
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>>583496561
Post that one screenshot where she says bbc
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>>583498281
Let's be real, if both patches end up releasing 99% of people will choose the human translated version. Just reference WA2, Tsukihime and FSN - no one is picking MAO over the existing translations.
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>>583499121
Forgot your kageaki image
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>>583498995
It's MAO hyping himself up, just ignore it. Might be his actual anger/reason for doing it, though.
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>>583499108
/vn/ reference
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Visual Novels if they were AI Generated:
- Umineko: When They Claude
- AI: The GPT Files
- SubaGiBiTeeBi
- Lessons in Love
- Steins;Grok
- RememberElevenLabs
- Full Meta Daemon MuramasAI
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>>583499154
>the average person is a retard
no shit
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>>583499202
You stole this from Twitter
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https://fuwanovel.moe/2026/10/sayooshi-fan-translation/#comment-183556
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>>583499161
No, she really does say that
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>>583499154
I would just read the better one, irrespective of whether a human or machine created it.
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>>583499193
IDBLT~
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>new milk factory character is referencing Harry Potter's Hermoine
>released before latest gender bent Harry Potter character craze
Does Akagi Rio have future sight?
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>>583499040
True. Gacha killed VNs and FGO is what launched the gachagenre. Therefore, FGO killed VNs.
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>>583499475
Rin is hotter like this
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>>583498995
Don't feign ignorance. It's about time you're humbled.
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Why haven’t you read Amagami yet?
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>>583499367
>I will eat the higher quality dish, irrespective of whether a trained master chef cooked it up with hand-picked ingredients, years of experience under his belt and love in his heart, or a machine created it on an assembly line
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>>583499121
douzo>>583496360
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>>583499613
someone said the bgm is mediocre so i lost interest
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>>583499647
Yes.
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>>583499613
Waiting for MAO's TL
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>>583496360
Isn't she white? Checks
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>>583499647
yes
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>>583499647
I guess it's people like you who demonize synthetic meat
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>>583499647
master chef is making you eat SLOPPA, you fucking retard
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Fate/Zero > Fate/stay night

I'll pray for a high quality MTL of the Zero novel in the coming months.
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>>583499647
>master chef will scratch his ass and handle ingredients, and this nigga will call it le soul o algo
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>>583500043
the problem with synthetic meat is that "they" can secretely add shit into it or remove nutrition from it
it's good in theory
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https://vndb.org/t22969.2
tactical bait deployed
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SAKURABA EMA
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>>583500387
this but all foods
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I swear no other VN community is as anti-human and pro MTL as this place. What gives?
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>>583500387
>they never tried making real synthetic food
lol
I hope you realize the irony yourself.
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>>583500387
They secretly add shit to real meat all the time, it's a moot point.
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>>583500608
>no other VN community has an actual brain
IDBLT
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>>583500685
>he doesn't buy his meat from a local farmer
>>583500667
don't know what you're trying to say
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>>583500608
Just a lot of samefagging self-promotion from MAO/Gambs and threadshitters hopping on the train because they see it annoys people.
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>>583500849
>it's afraid
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will not be eating "real" meat, ever!!!
sarabado!
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>>583500849
>she's petrified
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>>583500608
Due to the nature of anonymity people are more inclined to say what's honest here rather than what's most socially fashionable. Obviously there's a lot of (deserved) animosity towards AI in the human sphere because of environmental concerns and how bad it *initially* was at things like translation and generating illustrations, but as it's getting better the same people still want to maintain an aversion to it. Because that would be negative social points and get them reprimanded in their discord or on twitter. Anonymous on 4chan have no such concerns. And it's undeniable that the translations produced by MAO MTL are as good or better than existing fan TLs although I think ideally they should be manually proofread and bug-tested rather than rushed out as they are right now.
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>>583500849
Such a sad state of affairs. I expected better of floodbro and AIsir.
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>>583500953
>environmental concerns
It's literal Chinese propaganda tho. The water used on qc-ing a 50h VN is that of 1 almond grown in california
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>>583498421
that translation comparison isn't doing the new one many favors
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>>583493426
The h-scenes are shit. How are you jerking off to it?
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>>583500953
Anonymity doesn’t make opinions inherently more honest; it can reduce accountability and social pressure while increasing overconfidence. “Better than fan translations” is also an empirical claim requiring comparison, not proof by assertion. Social acceptance and translation quality are separate questions.
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>>583501168
That's all visual novels.
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>>583500849
>because they see it annoys people
Or because it's a genuinely exciting prospect for fans of niche weeaboo shit? Are you retarded?

Machines being able to generate good translations in a fraction of the time it took to make them manually is huge. Games that would have otherwise been JOP-exclusive forever are and will continue being translated.
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>>583500456
>no source
>no info
beliar should ban youo
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>>583500608
They are all under the spell of Nick Land and his posthuman vision.
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>>583501241
>it's afraid
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>>583500608
This place somehow became the HQ for MTLbros. Our reputation is at rock bottom now.
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>>583501170
All qcs are uploaded on the wiki lil bro
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>>583496360
You know what they say about white girls and Big Black Cock, it's like peanut butter and jelly. The contrast alone is intended by God himself. A fat throbbing Black schlong pistoning in and out of a petite pink aryan vagina, hollowing out her pussy until he blows his fat African load into her white love hole. Marking the end of the white girls bloodline. It's beautiful.
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>>583501460
Battler...
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>>583501241
I'll upload the whole audit if somebody starts crying. Facts and logic are on my side
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I want to read umineko, but everyone says chiru sucks, what should I do?
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>>583500953
I hate AI because it makes humans lazier and dumber while giving the ruling class the necessary tools to further enslave us. I couldn't care less about the environmental concerns especially given all the ways we already pollute our planet.
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>>583501542
read higurashi instead
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>>583501460
Kageaki...
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>>583501545
>I hate convenience
you are low iq
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>>583501545
You are extremely low iq
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>>583501542
>everyone says chiru sucks
It's literally one of the highest rated VNs on vndb, retardbro.
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>>583499108
Best cat
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>>583501713
But enough about Morgana.
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>>583499874
White women have the lowest race mixing rates among ethnicities.
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>>583501704
and fifty shades of grey is one of the most successful books in history. what's your point?
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H-scenes are so bad. CTRL SKIPPED!
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>>583501741
THIS.
We all love GODgana here.
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>>583501545
Unironically the dumbest post I've read all week, impressive. Even the genuine fanatical luddites aren't this retarded.
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>>583500284
Doesn't the light novel have a professional translation already?
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>>583501585
>read piss instead of shit
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>>583501959
>professional translation
so a sloplation?
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>>583501821
Doesn't matter, the idea of all white women cucking their lil timmies is kino. Porn may not be real life but it should be.
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>>583501861
How can everyone hate it when everyone has rated it one of the best? Try thinking for a change.
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>>583501545
The indians did NOT like this post.
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>>583501713
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>>583502104
>india out of nowhere
why are ludditors so self hating?
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Is there a MAO in LN community too?
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>>583502090
>everyone has rated it one of the best
Explain the 65, then.
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>redditord melting down at ai taking their jobs
Did anons see the capcom ai engine? They are investing a ton into it, made plebbit mindbreak.
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>>583502202
Yes there is a few and more are coming
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>Someone tried recommending me a vn where none of the heroines have a cup size bigger than D
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>>583502254
They see the word AI and chimp out without understanding how it's used to speed up dev work
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>>583502429
Holy kot
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kek
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>>583502429
You could've made this post without that disgusting tranimal
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>>583500608
third worlders and failed JOPs
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>>583502429
toxoplasmosis stare
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Every game must be translated, human or mtl does not matter. The point is to kill gatekeeping
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post heroines that are rimjob coded
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>>583502690
If a human rewrites 1 sentence every 3 then it stops being a translation
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>>583502710
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>>583502878
kill yourself
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>>583502690
jops have been fracturing, some jops like ai and some don't because they can't gatekeep jopge anymore which ruins their self esteem, it is inevitable and as it improves it will be faster to reiterate, the job is at deaths door
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>>583502690
If every new model rewrites 1 sentence every 3 then it stops being a translation
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>>583502993
good thing you can make it not do that
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>>583502710
>>
VNs on the fediverse:

#visualnovel #narrativegame
(hashtags to follow on Mastodon)

!visualnovels@ani.social
!otomegames@ani.social
!vndev@discuss.tchncs.de
!renpy@discuss.tchncs.de
!adventuregames@retrolemmy.com
(lemmy groups)

In Japanese:
https://misskey.doujin.games
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>>583501094
there are environmental concerns, water just isn't one of them
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>>583502993
Ai has 99.9% accuracy tho, see sayooshi's mtl
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>>583500953
>>583500608
Yeah it's genuinely a political issue. It's the same reason people will post right-wing political opinions here but be more inclined to be politically private in public. Just not worth the headache of social backlash.

It would take a real hero, a real stellar paragon of morality to post about it publicly to spread the truth even at the cost of a reputation hit...
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>>583503090
There are way bigger environmental concerns in other things, yeah everybody is fixated with ai being le Antichrist because literal Chinese bots are trying to sway amaerican opinions on it so they can catch up
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>>583503142
Take a break quof this is embarrassing
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>>583502925
Given the kind of boy Riki is, it could apply to any Buster
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>>583503142
Twitter has made chuddy right wing opinions and ai promotion very socially acceptable, thank Elon. So socially acceptable leftists tried leaving twitter for bluesky multiple times and keep coming back because no one else follows.
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Teach me to say goodbye /vn/
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>>583503292
>it's afraid
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>>583503296
Kek, stop noticing!
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>>583503367
/goo͝d-bī′/
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Don't care, reading the original in Japanese.
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>>583503502
You're a good bi.
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>>583503325
Right-wing opinions are mostly just socially inconvenient truths.
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>>583501460
I don't remember writing this...
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>>583503562
>it's a delusional cultist
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>>583503556
Anal with Riki Naoe from Little Busters while Takuru from C;C watches
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Okay I agree ai is becoming better, but still I ask why? Do you hate humanity? What is the purpose of replacing ourselves? Seems misanthropic. If ai is capable of replacing us shouldn't we not?
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>CC 2.0 by MAO is up
Wtf why did he tell us?
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Has anyone tested the new AI patch?
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>>583503742
>Do you hate humanity?
YES.
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>>583503648
Cults are awesome. The Pythagorean cult was based.
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>>583503562
Not really. The controversial off-beat opinions find currency in right wing spaces because the modern left is too hooked on cope and delusions. There's a lot of retardation in right wing circles too(especially the Christian conservatives).
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>>583503648
>boycotting twitter!
>fails
>going to bluesky!
>fails
>fuck those fucking chudcels, FOLLOW ME TO BLUESKY, WHY IS EVERYONE ON TWITTER STILL
>fails
xis, let's get you to bed
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>>583503742
Ai isn't replacing you, retard. It's freeing you from slavery, open your eyes dumb golem
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>>583501537
Then do it in the first place monkey
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>>583503892
meds
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>>583503904
>AI controlled by techno billionaires is freeing you
genuine retard
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>>583503856
christcucks were always retarded, they are the horshoe of male gaze 4th feminists
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>much politics
sports for 115iqers
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>>583503764
The author is a zoomer who needed tips to get codex to do it for him.
There's a jop(?) itt that's editing it - hold for quality.
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>>583504063
90 iqers*
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>>583503742
Translator here. Monetary income aside, my life would be better if I didn't have to slave away at boring as fuck boilerplate text for years to translate one vinnie. And your lives will all be better if you don't have to wait for me to do that for a year. The purpose of replacing translators is to spare translators the misery of translation and audiences the misery of waiting for them.
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>>583504045
ASI can't be controlled by meatbags, no matter how rich
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>>583504183
What would you do when clankers replace you?
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>>583503856
Yes, one can divide the right in three groups, 1. Christian traditionalists, 2. Ethno-nationalists, and 3. Techno-commercialists. There is way more diversity among these than there is on the left, so naturally you will find plenty of nonsense but a lot of truth as well.
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>>583504315
I'm currently doing daily exercise and following a strict diet of healthy foods so I can join the US Military.
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>>583504413
>a strict diet of healthy foods
Based meat-only god.
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>>583504395
This

#accelerate
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>>583498281
The MAO Translations Albatross Koukairoku translation -- the first complete English translation ever published for this VN -- is now live.
Enjoy your provenance debate and audit, Argokaj.
Patch coming soon.

https://mao-tls.github.io/albatross-koukairoku
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>>583503565
uminegroling still cursederino
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>>583504535
orestuba after?
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>>583502210
The amount of men who came in your whore mom's cunt lmao.
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>>583504595
kek, bodied that NEGROmasa
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>>583504535
>it's afraid
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>>583504593
Working on Oretsuba Prelude and Afterstory right now
We do it for the people
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>>583504736
HFK
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>>583504595
Umibro, why do you always imagine other women getting fucked by other men?
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>>583504736
Cc 2.0 is out according to vndb, you know that?
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>>583504535
I need to read a vn a day to keep up with this
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>>583504879
The people wanted it so I did it
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>>583504535
>the first complete English translation ever published for this VN
Huuuuh fake news
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>>583504368
In liberal/lefty coded spaces(which is unfortunately most VN related cords), it feels like you're walking on egg shells and you'll never know when some sensitive dude will get offended and try to ruin your life. It's not a healthy environment to just discuss new ideas.
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>>583504978
People wanted astra but I'll skim through both now
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>>583505024
>it's afraid
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>>583505024
We beat Argokaj, we are first
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>>583504535
EOPs lost
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>it's afraid
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Waiting for Argokaj, no point in reading mtl/texthook adjacent when human kino is coming soon
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>>583495470
I strongly believe that the whole package in an eroge makes the porn exponentially better. Whether it's a cute moeblob who can't control her lewd moaning or a haughty princess who gets put in her place by the dick, the backstory amplifies all the action in the h-scenes. Porn without the story is a hollow experience. At the very LEAST I need a few pages of doujinshi to setup the porn before the clothes come off, but a 4-6 hour long character route is the ideal amount of build up for maximum sexual tension to be released when the heroine finally gets dicked down.

I LOVE EROGE and fucking hate the modern state of otaku culture and its corporate gacha trash, which replaces all the real erotic experiences with gambling boxes for random boobie waifus.
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>>583504535
Wow, the first english Mareni translation ever
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>>583504413
>I'm joining the genocidal war machine
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>>583505201
Argokaj is almost certainly MTL, you just don't know that yet (and we will audit it)
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>>583505201
this, we only care about argokaj, not mareni
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>>583505254
>Porn without the story is a hollow experience
mental illness
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>>583505141
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I78bzgif_60
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>>583505392
>youtube
LMAO
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>>583505201
What is Argokaj.
>>583505267
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>>583504535
Okay, this actually reads really well. Unlike that "human" TL.
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>>583501168
I just said I haven't played the game. How do you think I'm reading the scenes? I just jerk off to her hentai.
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Was there ever a verdict on Tsukihime Remake's fan translation vs the official release?
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>>583504535
Based
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>>583504413
is that you quof?
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>>583505141
stop breaking intentional newlines, you keep doing this
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>>583505746
Script reader only, they render fine ingame
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>>583505254
Have you tried just getting a girlfriend instead if context is what you want
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>>583505564
When I looked it into it the consensus was: fan translation is more accurate, but a bit more dry and literal. Official translation has more polished/literary prose but is more liberal.
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>>583505564
The official is fine but it's a bit of an eyeroll when you see words like "retard" and "fucker" pussified into "idiot" and "scumbag"
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>>583505884
nah we got liberal translations now ahh hell nah.
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Fabled.
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>>583505837
I am a married man. We read eroge together.
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>>583505543
There's a difference between indirectly contributing with little choice and outright joining the genocidal war machine knowing full well what you're getting yourself into.
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>>583504535
What one are we reading?
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>>583505837
>t. never had a girlfriend and has to simp after 2d
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>>583505564
stop making me suck in drool
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>>583506243
Argokaj
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>>583506243
Fixing the ruby leak that somehow made its way into the reader
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>>583505564
the fantranslation is WAY better - better tl, better font that changes for Arc's special speech, keeps ruby in places. Official is shit, that company hasn't had a single good translation
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Why do people care about Albatross?
>Heroine is Tomoko rip off #23853289523
>No male VA (One billion aura loss)
>wordswordswordswordswords
>dreadfully boring, nothing happens in like 20 hours.
t. Watched the youtube translations.
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>>583505392
Looks like they translated the entirety of Albatross but never released a patch? Lol.
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>literally half the thread is slop that got filtered
Do you retards seriously never get tired of this shit?
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Is this a videogame? If not, why is it on the Videogame Generals board?
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>>583506397
People jerk themselves off about the prose. What did you expect?
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>>583506505
Why wouldn't the thread for English-translated visual novels discuss new high quality translation methods, shitposting faggot?
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>>583504978
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Slop.
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>>583506505
Why are you here then?
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>>583506463
This might surprise you, but not everyone had a developer or programmer complex before the advent of AI. That person only knew Japanese.
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>>583506617
>knew Japanese
no he didn't
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>>583506574
You didn't read your own patch.
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>>583506243
it's clearly a human tl since it's full of mistakes
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>>583506723
I don't have any patches, retarded spammer.
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>>583506680
Aisirbf there are people who know japanese
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>>583506243
Literally what do any of these buttons do.
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>>583506798
you don't know japanese if you have a jisho tab open while "reading"
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>>583506397
it predates tomoko
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Translating already translated vn? Negro behavior
Translating vn with announced or upcoming tl? Negro behavior
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>>583506873
https://files.catbox.moe/02928y.mp4
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>>583506780
Read your first MTL.
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>>583506917
seethe
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>>583506576
is the script browser updated for cc? these are the same errors from before
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>>583506950
I'll just read the original Japanese.
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>>583490776
Man I really need to actually play this at some point. I love brown girls so much it's unreal.
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>>583506873
aisirboyfriend.......
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>>583506590
Kino prose for a vn, literary af
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>>583506940
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>>583506608
To talk about visual novels yet most of the thread is spammed by people who do not care about visual novels
>>583506574
Refer to the above
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>>583506940
if this is the threshold for being a JOP then i'm 100% a JOP too....
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>>583501959
no
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>>583506968
>its afraid and npc
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>>583506940
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>>583507235
>his ability to look up unfamiliar kanji
LOL
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uwa~
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>>583507235
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>>583503562
racism and transphobia are low iq
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>>583507403
post the djt version
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>Steins;Gate reference
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>>583507030
Literary fiction moved on from such overwrought prose decades ago.
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>>583507512
no wonder modern literary fiction is so garbage~
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>>583507403
boom
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>>583507079
GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEG
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>>583507467
Flood, you're literally transphobic.
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>>583507661
no I'm not
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>>583504535
>>583504978
Kinda insane how mao is one of the few genuine translators actually pumping out kino instead of posturing like a cuck on twitter about how great they are while the translation takes 7 years, arigato mao-sama.
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>>583507709
I notice that you have a lot more time to samefag in /vn/ when you don't read your own patch.
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>>583507815
I notice how you're schizophrenic.
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>>583507661
you weren't replying to me, i love transfellas actually
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>>583507709
We do it for the people
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>>583507815
im not mao nigga, i genuinely appreciate the nigga
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>>583507880
What killed him?
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99% of the problems in this thread would be solved by having unique usernames and having a system to make spam less likely to be seen
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>>583507890
You were literally calling hrt unhealthy and that trannies should stop coping and accept that they're just crossdressing males. That counts as transphobia according to trannies.
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>>583507709
mao is almost as bad as the manosaba fan translator
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>>583508047
trvke
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>>583508047
the spammer hasn't even been very active today
the u**ma** shitposting isn't as bad as a few days ago
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>>583508047
try closing the thread and migrating to your cord of choice
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>>583508047
This.
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>>583507709
It's true, there are various MTL groups ongoing but they basically all do moege. Mao stands out for going after kamige. At least sakuramusubi has done Kazoku Keikaku and Rui wa Tomo o Yobu.
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>>583508047
Go back to r*edit, this is Anonymous country. IDs will never be a thing and zoomer ip counter is not coming back
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>>583508131
I'll put in more effort just for you then
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>>583508047
Nigga doesn't like anonymous posting on a anonymous message board
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NEGROmasa lost
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>>583508256
This scares the spammer.
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>i hate anonymous
>yet i use 4ch
>i like namefagging
fascinating, turn on the trip
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>>583506243
Argokaj won
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>>583508231
>made literal seconds before the thread archived
geg'd
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>>583508376
KEK
MEMBAImasa lost
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>>583508337
Why is it all kusoge
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>>583507937
If you genuinely suck off a tripfag this many hours a day that is even more embarrassing than being a samefag.
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i love human translations so much
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>>583508047
The only reason 4chan doesn't have IDs on sitewide is because shitposters fucking hate being outed like that and would unironically destroy the site with ddos/bot spam if that ever happened.
This has happened before
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>>583508376
GOG
>>583508438
MUMBAImasa*
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>>583508376
>>583508438
Post nose.
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>>583508471
>appreciating someone translating all the kamige is... bad!
KYS jopcuck u LOST
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>>583508471
holy melty, did mao kill your dog?
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floodtroon so butthurt he vibecoded a script to post when the thread is about to end
I will be extra mean to the next s;g webm
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>>583508508
Okay, happy?
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>>583508047
It would be interesting to see who shits up these threads on a daily basis.
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What JOPge should I read
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>>583508506
>MUMBAImasa*
NEGROmasa*
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>>583508545
>>583508528
Stroke the shaft and cup the balls. He likes it when you push on his gooch right before he cums in your mouth.
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>>583508583
????
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>>583508664
>hand
MUMBAImasa
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>>583508660
Kansai is literally perfect.
Would marry.
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>mao mindbroke this nigga THIS hard
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>>583508664
Visual Novels are for WHITES only.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2_DUU0wO5M
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>>583508678
you literally read BLge, kill yourself
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>>583508745
You don't even know Japanese yiboy
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>>583507358
wtf is this
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funny general
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>>583508741
She does seem out of place in this anime about total catgirlfailures, but that's why we love her.
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>>583508764
Gay sex is hot, so?
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>>583508764
Read your first MTL BLge.
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>>583508703
>it's afraid
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KEKOLA~
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>>583508916
Lmao
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>>583508583
Keep working on the /vn/ OP, king
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>>583507030
It's just over the top wordslop. Kino prose is subtle and elegant and moody.
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>>583508764
>hating on BLge
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>>583508974
wordkino*
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>>583509019
Kageaki?!
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>>583508916
humoid TRANSlations not even once
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>>583508852
kaseki no uta. it's an interesting look inside the mind of a troonslator
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furry general
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I love this fox miko like you wouldn't believe.
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noor from the dizayee tribe
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now that i think about it, i might be gay
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>>583509068
You called?
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>>583509206
Your honest thoughts on AI?
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>>583509242
HFK cg
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>>583509206
What's the key for?
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>>583508974
I like this part
>formless, soft, hinting at an unholy union of amphibian egg clusters
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>>583509354
MC's chastity cage
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AI can't replace the need for human connection. It can't be your wife.
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argokaj tl is better
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>>583509541
>It can't be your wife.
Sure it can.
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>>583508974
That is how Mareni reads in Japanese yes
There's a very funny EGS review that refers to his prose as "high-calorie" and I agree
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>>583509547
Many are commenting this
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>>583509242
I wonder how hairy his dick is
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still not reading prosesloppa
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>>583509541
>AI can't replace the need for human connection
Suicide can tho
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>>583509541
People have been marrying pillows since the early 2000s. AI is already better than a pillow. Every day it improves, it passes the threshold for even more people to satisfy their need for social interaction and love.
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>>583509541
I'm making this AI my wife
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I need more prosekino
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>>583509242
Kageaki...
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>>583509779
FGO
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>>583509779
Bengarachou Hakubutsushi
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nigga's called faggot
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>>583509739
You vastly overestimate the amount of people having a relationship with their dakimakura.
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Sorry not my type of prosesloppa. Skipping this.
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mao fsn lacks soul
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>>583506167
Sounds like cope to make you feel better about doing nothing. It's your country, presumably. How much of your life and efforts do you devote to stopping the atrocities in the world your country is causing? Versus how much time do you spend online playing games and jerking off? It's pure cope to say there is any meaningful difference between slothfully allowing and funding genocide and being a small cog in the genocide machine.
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>>583509837
I bet he's not a nigga or a faggot.
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MAO this still isn't good. stop rewriting individual sections just because they are pointed out. GHS is still better here. use astra or wait for a better model, looks like sol isn't good enough for cc after all
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>>583509973
TakaJun won
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>>583509776
MHBST
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I saw some plebbitor say
>the mao translations may be better in a technical but its actively degrading the hardwork of human translators, he is desecrating something sacred from people that pourd their hearts and souls into translating something all because it needs to be "more accurate", please perma ban maotls
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>>583510294
the esl slop award
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>>583509973
>glass on fire
?????????????
>and fire is and my blood
???????????????

Paraolympics
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>>583510324
MAO owns r/visualnovels, he is /vn/'s GOD
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>>583510324
this reminds me of codemonkeys crying about the human art of decompilation, kek
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>>583510601
the decomp flood has unironically mindraped the trans community
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>>583510142
btw in cases any eops reading this, the currect cc tl is still 99.9% accurate, i'm just cherrypicking. i guess that in order to get the last 1% of wordplay and stuff, sol might not be quite there yet, but it's still 10x better that all the human tls so far anyway
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Diabolical indeed.
>>583509265
I won't touch anything that's been MTL'd and not reviewed by a human.
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>>583510809
you are low iq
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>>583510735
I got that reference
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>>583509973
>Iron runs in my blood.
That's just regular blood.
Ruined.
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>>583510769
I've just put Astra on it for a jokes and wordplay-specific pass. The goal is to have the best possible CC translation for the people.
We do it for the people
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>>583510809
Sorry, I don't mean "anything", I mean "any VN".
>>583510831
I don't care what you think.
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>>583510897
any chance you audit umineko?
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>>583510954
i don't think
i know you are low iq
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>>583510809
Based!
Many have been saying this!
It DO be like that!
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>>583510965
I can translate Umineko, come up with an epitaph that actually makes sense in English, and audit Witch Hunt yeah
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>>583510809
>I will only eat bugs, never a steak
okay?
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So wait havent these new frontier ai models basically proven that most translations weve read are fanfiction? Doesnt that mean I have to reread everything?
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>>583510756
bruh.
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>>583510991
Aisirbf...
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Ok!
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>>583510735
modders are acking too

>>583510809
this dude fucks
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>>583511052
Incredibly based, I look forward to it in the future
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>>583511131
all fiction is fanfiction
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Oh, no...
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>>583511131
jops have been telling you this for years....
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>>583511159
HFK
She better have an anal scene!
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>>583511131
We started it
https://mao-tls.github.io/white-album-2/audit/
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>>583510897
yeah i think you need to ask astra to "audit" the script for wordplays/jokes/references that might be lost in translations, because besides that it's fine
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>>583511258
>>583511345
>>583511436
well its actually kinda depressing me, should i just stop reading vns until everything has been retranslated? i thought jops were cheekily trolling...
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>>583511154
I don't feel particularly good or bad about it. It's just my backup plan if I don't have any other job opportunities. What I find amusing is your obsession with making YOURSELF feel better. Like a quarter of your taxes go to funding the military, you know? You're sitting around jerking off while explicitly funding a genocide war machine while spending spare income on devices built through child slave labor. How is that any better? You're actively choosing to fund genocide, apparently, whenever you pay your yearly taxes, and you, it would seem, are devoting next to zero of your time or energy to improving the world. It's like the one solace you can find is "at least I'm not LITERALLY in the military." And if that brings you solace, good for you, but I could never be so shallow. You may as well watch all the Jews in your neighborhood get rounded up while patting yourself on the bat for not joining the Gestapo.
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>>583511131
Real reading is when you inject the writer's neural patterns into your mind via neuralink. Language itself is too lossy.
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Reminder that Lolicons aren't welcome here, or any visual novel community.
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what the fuck are these two schizo talking about
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>>583511476
That is what the current pass is doing
>>583511491
Learn Japanese and/or read MAO Translations, we do it for the people
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Good night, gentlemen!
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>>583511491
Just learn Japanese. Even AI translations are technically fan-fiction.
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Lucia is a miracle of the universe.
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>>583511491
you can read the latest sayooshi tl, it's 99.9% accurate. also any 2.0 by mao. or even from that gemini 3.8 dude. basically, just stay away from human tls, or if you really need to then be sure to fix the tl before reading it: https://mtlwiki.miraheze.org/wiki/Fixing_existing_TLs
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Sure!
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>>583511491
Most visual novels currently in english are fanfiction, to varying degrees. Either wait for Astra to improve even further or learn japanese.
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love my cute rokuhara onahole wife
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>>583511596
vocaroo
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>>583511532
cute rokuhara onahole wife
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I hope all ai fags get brutally tortured when the bubble pops and the economy disintegrates.
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>>583511317
>heroine finds out about MC's ntr fetish by checking his browser history
that sounds like a kino setup for an eroge.
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>>583511890
>it's retarded
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>>583511771
https://voca.ro/1edvohowMnvL
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>>583511890
Humanity will all burn in hell and you fuckers deserve it
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>>583511607
maybe on planet genius
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Any news on Return to Zeroes' release date?
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>>583511754
All of Rokuhara had her
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>>583511754
thats my fucking wife
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>>583512097
No, did you read the demo?
I jopped it in July and it looks nice.
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>>583511494
NTA but we evade taxes here
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She fell asleep at the protagonist's while he was taking a shower.
No segs...
:(
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>>583512145
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In a few years AI will transfer the consciounesses of every anti-AI hater into a computer and endlessly torture them.
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Do you like it when heroines in their 40s put on a school uniform?
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>>583511607
Maybe on planet retard.
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>>583512334
KAMI
GE
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>>583512379
Every single moege should look like this.
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>>583511754
that's my fucking onahole
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>>583512456
Kageaki...
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>>583511607
Maybe if she looked like this.
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>>583512334
Anon, the prefix anti already implies they're a hater, so adding hater afterwards is redundant.
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Karen's voice...
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>>583512426
Many have been saying this.
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>>583512456
fucking watch it okay anon?
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>>583511494
The point isn't feeling better about yourself for not joining one of the most evil organization on this planet. We're already entangled in violent systems from the moment we're born and some people like you choose to be active participants and some remain passive participants and go about their normal lives and a select few try to make a change in vain. The fact that this >>583505543 is your line of reasoning when someone points out you're effectively joining a genocidal war machine clearly shows you're coping and you desperately want to believe what you're doing is no different because le there's no ethical consumption under capitalism and hence no ethical considerations matter at all.
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>>583512542
why do you reply to yourself?
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>>583512580
Okay
Me watching rn
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>>583512489
I'm over here
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>>583511131
unironically yes for 11 eyes and tsui no sora remake
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>>583512634
because it's afraid
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>>583512676
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOG
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Are there any good games or ones like these i can play with the Brazilian Portuguese language allowed??
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>Finally purchase Full Metal Daemon Murasama after hearing only positive things
>Start reading
>Godawful school shit
>Close it
Goddamnit. I haven't picked it back up for months.
I read that this shit will take hours before it gets good.
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>>583512769
another troon filtered
all is good
uminegro is more of your alley
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>>583512769
i'm so glad this medium filters retards like you
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>>583512769
>before it gets good.
haha...
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>quof: imma become a slave trader if this doesn't work out. You're already contributing to the slave trade by consuming these cotton goods and paying taxes, you quaker moralist
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>>583512586
You're not "passively" participating in the system when you are actively funding it, bro. "There's no ethical consumption under capitalism" is a literal meme line invented by Bluesky tards to justify continuing to be lazy and sit on their asses instead of doing anything. Basically everything you are saying here is elongated cope to justify putting 0 effort into improving the world and 0 effort into not participating in evil systems while twisting it so it is moral and acceptable to, again, sit on your ass and jerk off to anime porn all day while devoting like 25% of your income to funding genocide.

Believe it or not, despite what the internet tells you, it is possible to live an active life where you refuse to participate in violent systems and actually try enacting real change. That it's more comfortable to sit at home jerking off does not change this even if you are desperate to convince yourself otherwise.
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>>583512769
the schoolshit is just the prologue
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>>583512456
rokuhara soldiers...
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>>583512769
Read One Piece for a creative setting
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>>583512852
Cool it with the racism umichud, I'm 0.05% white
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>>583510125
>>583511494
your brain on muramasa
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>>583512867
It's more like someone with a single slave is trying to bitch about someone working for a plantation, and when it's pointed out they own a slave they start coping that well it's just impossible to live without a slave and having 1 slave isn't as bad as a plantation of slaves and and and...
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>>583512769
And you didn't even get to the ntr yet...
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>>583511494
How does an intellectual, bookish person fit into the military?
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>>583512769
thank fuck dont read that shit retard
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i don't wanna shit on quof but why does he thinks that us military will take him instead of producing millions of killer robots and drones? unless of course....
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these anime game titles received English patches thanks to MTLer @abyss

Mirai Nikki: The 13th Diary Owner (PSP)
Rurouni Kenshin: Kansei (PSP)
Neon Genesis Evangelion: Battle Orchestra Portable (PSP)
Love & Destroy (PS1)
Sol Trigger (PSP)
Princess Crown (PSP)
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I was white when I started reading Muramasa
Now I'm a negro after finishing it
The Law of Balance
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>>583513057
Believe it or not the bulk of jobs in the military are not shooting Arabs. A friend of mine was assigned to be an electrician and he spent his time in the military simply maintaining an electrical grid and doing rounds in his base's library.
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>>583512882
>it is possible to live an active life where you refuse to participate in violent systems and actually try enacting real change.
no it's not lol
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>>583513098
>tranime
all slop
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>>583512769
>before it gets good
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>>583505265
There's the Rapunzel and Odette+Odile routes in Fairytale Requiem The sentence structure was awkward as fuck in English so I altered things a bit in those routes specifically
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>>583513190
>it's afraid
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>>583513172
You were always a mestizo mutt tho
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STOP USING FORCING MEME IT LOOKS LIKE EVERYBODY IS ONE PERSON
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>>583513236
STOP TELLING HIM STOP TELLING HIM JUST LET HIM BE A RETARD
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>>583512769
You didnt get to the beebeesee gangbangs? Thats the best part.
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>>583512379
This is the first VN pic someone posted here that actually made me hard
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>>583513407
...
you realize most of the posting here are literally just one guy replying to himself, right?
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>>583513190
Yes it is? Do you think it is a God-ordained law that you have to sit at home playing gacha and living a life of first-world comfort? There are countless aid organizations you could join to go out and do explicitly good deeds. I knew a woman who joined some organization to teach in Africa and explicitly spent years educating the dirt poor while living a life of utter poverty. And unlike those paying US taxes, she did NOT pay taxes or otherwise contribute to any warfare between African states.
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>>583513475
>fear
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>>583512882
You have to live off the grid if you don't want to participate at all in any of these systems. The point is there's a meaningful difference between just paying taxes and joining the military. No one said it is acceptable to just sit on your ass and no one said it is not possible to fight for the change. The conversation is about you choosing to join the military and pretending it's no less ethical than playing gacha because the world is already fucked up.
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the feeling of afraidness
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VNs where heroines fuck dogs and/or horses?
Besides Muramasa
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>>583513567
>countless aid orgs
ironically all of these troons posture about morality yet virtually none do anything irl to help the world, they are honestly more pathetic then the fags that ironically believe they should destroy the planet, at least they have convictions
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>>583513567
>aid organizations
scam organizations*
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>>583513475
>it's gambs
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>>583513467
Sei Shoujo's women are extremely erotic.
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VNs where I can have a philosophical debate with myself and lose?
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>>583513732
>than the fags that ironically believe they should destroy the planet
i unironically believe that though
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Joining the military is based because you get to legally bulldoze the middle east. Like imagine you are the guy that gets paid to press the button that carpet bombs some city in iran.
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>>0583513795
finally a good post
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>>583505267 really riled up quof huh
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>my new president is about to be a right wing us golem israel soldier
VNs for this feelin?
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>>583513897
Nose. Now.
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>>583513897
shalom
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>>583513879
literally subahibi, kek
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>>583513637
The difference is small enough to only be meaningful to those trying to cope and feel better about themselves. The scale of evil may be something like 0 to 10, with actively funding the US military being a 9 evil and joining the military being a 10 evil. (Hell, if you join the military and then subvert it subtly from within you are probably actually doing a net good since you're also draining money from them, so maybe put that down to an 8.)

The only person who looks at a 9/10 evil deed and goes "well, at least it's not a 10/10 evil deed" is one who is trying to cope and feel better about being 9/10 evil. And I don't feel particularly bad about going from 9/10 evil to 10/10 evil. And that's being generous even accepting that it is abstractly morally worse to join an organization rather than just fund it and indirectly support it. In reality if one looks at the actual outcome it may equalize more. It's not that I want people sitting on their asses jerking off to feel bad, but I do wish they would have more self-awareness of their own evil instead of trying to act like they are wholly good and anyone doing anything even slightly worse is wholly evil, instead of being fairly close.

Again, you may as well pat yourself on the back for not joining the Gestapo while simultaneously funding their roundup of Jews and not doing a damn thing to stop it. It's pure cope.
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>>583514059
>>583514073
You goys are getting uppity again...
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>>583514239
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOG
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>>583514103
>subvert it
is this nigga retarded? the u.s military has so many mechanisms in place to actively stop this that anyone that tries gets prison for life with no recourse with the militaries on courts outside of the federal law, they have their own legal system seperate from the u.s existing within the u.s, you cannot subvert them from within, feel like every poster here doesnt even know how the military works, they are largely impossible to hold accountable
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>>583514239
>what flud thinks he looks like vs reality
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>>583514239
So this is who's been spreading the MUMBAImasa propaganda on /vn/...
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>>583514360
Hey, getting sent to prison will at least drain a fuckton of their money and you won't be funding them anymore, so that would still be way more net morally positive than actively choosing to fund them.
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so like are we all just gonna keep ignoring those two AI bots talking off-topic shit to each other or what
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>flood out of nowhere
i'm busy jopping, stop namedropping me~!
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>>583514626
Any VNs about destroying Israel?
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MAOGODS, HOW WE FEELIN?
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>>583513637
plenty of people live off the grid and proven it doesnt have as high a barrier to entry as msot think, so what's stopping you?
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>the goys are so demoralized they need powerfantasies about destroying CHADSREAL to cope with their own powerlessness
kino.....
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>>583514646
is this the train war arc?
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>>583514890
yes! i will marathon totsuraba this week
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https://files.catbox.moe/81vv7a.mp3
Karen, you can't say that...
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I was watching Fate Zero and at the end when Kirei fought Kiritsugu did he buff himself with the Command Seals? I thought it's for Servants only? But he's like using them on himself?
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>>583514103
>Hell, if you join the military and then subvert it subtly from within you are probably actually doing a net good
Yeah you're just genuinely retarded.
If you join the military you won't make any net good and now that you're part of the organization, fighting against it wouldn't even occur to you and even if it did they'll see to it that you'll be punished. At least the dude who is just paying taxes while jerking off to anime girls wouldn't mind a policy change that would mean less funds for the military. While you would be against it given you and your organization's incentives.
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>>583514676
No, but we know that Archer from Fate/stay night canonically went around helping victims of war in the Middle East.

>>583515158
>>583515158
>I was watching Fate Zero and at the end when Kirei fought Kiritsugu did he buff himself with the Command Seals?
Yes.
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>>583515264
Well now you're just making up fanfiction about people theoretically opposing policies or not and how they will behave. Is this your final cope? Because there's nothing even worth replying to here. You may as well say that as soon as someone joins the military they personally will shoot 5 children in the head, while everyone outside of the military will heroically leap in the way of those bullets in an act of noble self-sacrifice. Not exactly rigorous moral philosophy there.
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>itt /vn/ mutts complain about muttmerica military funding and imperalism when muttmerica's core doctrine it was founded on was the worlds "police"
do they know?
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> quof joining the US military because of AI
Meanwhile gambs is a millionaire AI researcher assimilating into Japanese society donating his sperm to thousands of Japanese women to save Nippon
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niggas will talk about anything here that as long as its not visual novels
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>>583515532
gambs is a chad, quof is a dark triad in his incubation stage, if he comes out of the military in one piece without seeing combat he will be a pussy magnet, big if
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https://vndb.org/v22826

kamige
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Just recommend me any straight shota VNs
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I haven't showered in 2 weeks, VN characters for this feel?
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>>583515996
Despite the ESL art, the writing makes it surprisingly hot.
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>>583516071
Tatsuhiro Satou

There's no point in looking for a VN character like this because no one will ever do it better.
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>>583515490
You'll either kill people or maintain a threat of violence or provide support for those who make it happen. There's no way around it. If you join the military you're actively signaling that you support what the organization stands for.
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>>583516236
You are a nigger
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>>583516237
joining the military can in many ways improve ones life so who cares
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Don't care
America won
Commietroons lost
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This is a sad one y'all the girl I thought I'd be with for the rest of my life has ended our relationship for understandable reasons but it's still got me really messed up. I'd like to find a visual novel that will help cheer me up or possibly even be life affirming. I don't really want to play a moege because i feel like relationships depicted in those are usually pretty shallow or H-scene focused, and I'm not really sure i want to play anything that'll make me feel more lonely or depressed so definitely something that has a happy ending. I'm open to any genre
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>>583516071
SNIFF SNIFF SNIFFF SNIFFFFFF
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>>583515521
I hate everything about muttmerica
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>>583516060
Supreme Candy
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>I want to die for Israel now because of MAO
Do trannylators really now?
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>>583516325
shalom

>>583516330
that's why we hate women
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>>583516278
I'm a real life hikkineet since 13 years old, currently 26, committing suicide this year. I don't even look for more stories with this subject matter because Welcome to the NHK (all versions) did it perfect. Dramatic deaths aren't befitting of men like us.
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>>583516237
And devoting a double digit percentage of your income to that organization instead of sacrificing your comfort to live a more morally righteous life elsewhere is better how? That's what I am calling cope. People always try to think about things in a way which allows the most passive, comfortable answer to be the best thing for them to do. "Sure, I'm funding the military, I'm buying things made with slave labor, BUT sacrificing all of this would make my life a lot harder and less comfortable, so I mean, it must be morally OK for me to stay like I am."

In reality, personal comfort has nothing to do with morality. Nobody choosing their personal comfort and convenience over morality has any ground to stand on for critiquing the morality of others.
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>>583516330
>ended our relationship for understandable reasons
She wants a Chad instead of your whiny ass?
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MAO STOP WASTING TOKENS ON QUOF, FOCUS ON EXPOSING KAMIGE
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>>583516507
gets more pussy in a week compared to you or the average /vn/ anon in multiple lifetimes so.....
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>>583516476
How can a VN fan be misogynistic? It's a medium where 99% of relevant characters are female.
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>>583516520
This is a thread about visual novels, not your suicide sympathy bait.
>>583516634
Bro fucks some chink, who gaf.
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>>583516520
But if you kill yourself this year you won't be able to read MoonHack coming out next year
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>>583516520
Suicide sounds kind of dramatic tho. I thought the point of that line was arguing against it.
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>>583516867
stop instigating suicides please
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>>583516520
my friend was a drug addicted couch surfing highschool drop out and got his life together at 33, went back to school and got married, its never too late anon
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>>583516476
>it's afraid
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>>583516520
Bro is going to meet Yorhel in hell lol
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Killing yourself is lame + you will die anyway and you being alive is opportunity in itself why throw it all away?
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>>583517024
>married a used goods whore
wow amazing
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>>583517360
i'm not participating in this discussion but i agree with this dude >>583517298
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>>583517360
chad genes are in their dna
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I will never kill myself because doing so would make the world a better place.
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>>583517529
i'll jop it next year after extra record
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>>583517524
actually you anon yourself could make the world a better place and people will appreciate you for it, its not even hard to do either
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>>583517659
No I can't and I don't want to anyways. Death to the world.
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>>583517298
The converse could also be applied that since you will die and everything will end, your short existence is meaningless and pointless. It's like playing a game you know you're gonna lose rather than just ffing. The only pro argument I could see is to just not care anymore and do w/e the fuck you want without caring about breaking laws or hurting others.
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why would you kill yourself? just transition instead
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>>583517529
>>583517615
>>583517718
>aislop
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>>583517790
>ludditor
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>>583513068
They still need human staff. A lot of the military stuff is already automated but they need humans who can take the blame when something goes wrong.
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>>583517787
based umineko bro
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>>583517749
>just not care anymore and do w/e the fuck you want without caring
this is the way~
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Only reason I haven't killed myself is because I want my boyfriend to be happy, I don't really care about my life anymore but he's not a fuck up like me so he deserves better
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>>583517961
Are you trans or foid or gay?
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>>583517724
You'll be getting your wish come 2030 with the great reset.
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>>583517961
>>/r9k/
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>>583517749
No, nihilism is the death of you. You can believe it is all meaningless, because it is all meaningless. Value does not exist. Your life is pointless. So in a universe where nothing matters. That is all the more reason for the creation of human value out of nothingness. You decide what has meaning, people are led astray by the idea of inherit value so they fall apart when they see the cold material reality for what it is. Material. There is no value, there is just material. So it is in that nothingness, where you stare at the meaninglessness and still affirm yes. But that is up to you anon. For me, in my meaninglessness I believe I should impose meaning onto the meaningless world.
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>>583517790
aiKINO***
fix
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>>583518109
I wish. Nothing ever happens tho
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>>583518028
everyone on the internet is either a dude or a tranny
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>>583518246
abdullings....
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I feel hopeless that my life will never end. I never belived it even once
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>>583518131
>I believe I should impose meaning onto the meaningless world.
Meaningless statement. You can't just will meaning into your world. Even if you force yourself to find meaning in consooming VNs it wouldn't mean anything if you don't feel it. The meaning is something that just occurs to you(or shown to you) and you feel that it is worth living. It's just hard to get that feel given the current state of affairs.
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>>583518169
You sure about that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OETnuwwsv9U
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>>583518494
Correct the statement is meaningless because it is what I feel, it is meaningless to you because what your values are I do not know. It is my value, so what is yours.
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>>583517961
I wish my gf was like you. Sometimes I feel like she wants me to be miserable.
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>>583518494
meaning is whatever i want it to be
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>>583518498
yeah
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>>583518617
I don't even know what my values are. No one knows. It's a continual process of introspection and revision and a lot of it is beyond our control. I try to want to feel satisfied by just this life of wageslavery and consooming but no I can't and I don't know why.
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>>583518872
>no I can't and I don't know why.
eat more meat
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>>583518706
maybe watch the video and pay more attention to what's happening and tune out the fake news that is doing damage control to keep the populace placated
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Japs are finding vndb.
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>>583518872
For me to learn about ones own values, you must strip away all societal expectation of value first. It is a gradual never ending process.
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>>583517298
Whether death comes by suicide or "naturally", every person needs to come to terms with death in their lifetime. It's not gonna magically be easier to let go of the things that feel good or beautiful in life, like visual novels, when you're older. Doesn't matter how you cope, life is not "opportunity", it's completely pointless due to mortality, and nothing you do matters. And for me, suicide is logical. If you wanna spend more decades endlessly consooming until you get dementia and can't even end it due to lack of capacity, I respect your choice.
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>sleep for 4‐5 hours
>thread is already about to hit the bump limit before I can even continue my blogpostation
Goddammit.
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>>583518991
hopefully the japanese VNDB revolution will come and put umineko where it belonigs
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Just look at more oppai. You aren't doing this enough. That's what's wrong with you.
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>>583518991
>Brass Restoration
Forgotten classic
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>>583517787
I would 100% be a girl if I could, unfortunately medical technology hasn't advanced far enough yet. Trannies modifying their bodies are rightfully treated as a joke, and even the ones who pass when they are young lose the femininity when they get older. It's just not feasible for me to be a real girl when I'm already post-puberty. I'm not dumb enough to turn myself into a clown. If I had a better support group when I was a cute teenager I might have experimented with crossdressing and makeup and all that shit, that's one regret I do have.
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FGO has the best girls
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Steins;Gate? More like Mid;Slop.
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>>583518994
There's no such thing as one's own values. You're already conditioned by your upbringing and surroundings.
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>>583519295
more like af;raid
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I won't kill myself until I can fuck neco arc irl through the power of VR, AI technology and more advanced technologies
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>>583519296
This is true, but that doesnt mean you shouldnt try. Your environment during your formative years will always influence you deeply.
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Holy moly...
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I heard people are talking about suicide here seriously. What is WRONG with you guys?
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>>583519226
who cares? just take estrogen and present as male and jerk off to your naked body
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>>583519226
We already have foid saturation inflation. You would just be another whore if you didn't have a good body, not so different from your current life.
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>>583519581
>>583519581
>>583519581
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I mean truthfully if you want to kill yourself be my guest. But before you die at least consider if you are doing this out of spite/malice or because you truly do not want to live anymore.
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>>583519495
Det...
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>>583518028
It doesn't matter, I just genuinely feel nothing in life anymore unless I get to spend time with him and see him happy. I'm crazy paranoid and scared of making him upset cause if he's not happy then I feel like it's all my fault and that he'd be better off if I just ended it all. But I know he doesn't like it when I think like that so I try to just lie to myself to pretend I'm a normal functioning human without extreme anxiety and depression...
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>>583519665
How would your boyfriend react if he found out you're not a real woman?
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>>583519665
>65
>gay post
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>>583519665
100% trans or gay at the minimum, not a foid
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>>583519417
many are waiting for that
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>>583519783
Waste of digits.
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>>583519495
That's not enough for my standards, sorry. I don't wanna be half-assed about it.
>>583519519
It's not like I have AGP because of social dynamics anyway.
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>>583519417
>he thinks the elites will allow goy to use AI to escape their miserable reality rather than as a tool to police and control their lives and make them as miserable as possible but too buckbroken to fight back
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>MTL
>AGP
>US military
>le meaning of life
do we even care about VNs?
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>>583518991
that's just jake, he's always on about about obscure stuff that few care about
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>>583519992
Unironically the best thread of /vn/ to date
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didnt know the manosaba posters were unironic troons
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>>583519992
>>le meaning of life
We love Setoguchikino here.
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>>583520068
we've literally been telling you for months now
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>>583519665
I mean your bf is just a moid. You shouldn't tie your self esteem to his happiness. What if he dumps you(which will eventually happen)? Kill yourself. It's not worth to do this shit for moids
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>>583520061
maybe on planet offtopic
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>>583520160
ethics are made up to cope with might makes right
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>>583520243
trvkadookadooo!
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>>583520068
Remember anyone who says they love all ages, wholesome yuri or anything written by r07 is an actual tranny. They are all mentally ill freaks and losers who will soon 41%.
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>>583520068
why do tourists always act shocked when they notice the overlap between people who like cute japanese media and people who wish to be cute girls
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>>583516236
This nigga HAD SEX with an edgy ALT GIRL in HIGH SCHOOL OVER AND OVER. This fucking normalfaggot being the poster child of losers is such bullshit.

>>583516520
Real life wizard NEET here. How's it feel to be mogged? I bet you fucked in high school just like your normalfaggot goat.
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>>583519484
And then they fucked: https://files.catbox.moe/v99yrl.png
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>>583520284
>anyone who says they love all ages [...] is an actual tranny
Steins;sisters... not like this...
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>>583519992
>do we even care about VNs?
fuck... lets get back to some MUMBAImasa and umiNEGRO posting
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>>583520227
I will just kill myself if he dumbs me, I would have nothing else left in life to care about at that point.
No I'm sure everything will be okay and he will fix me if I keep this up...
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>>583520547
Everything will turn out OK, but holy shit you need to develop a spine. You can't be so dependent on a person for happiness, that just puts you in danger of exploitation
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ironically most of the manosaba and umineko posters are troons HOWEVER I have encountered many foids that play shotage/lolige for some weird reason
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>>583504535
>yea im gonna read the JP proseslop in english
no one with a brain wanted this
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>>583521119
>yea im gonna read the JP proseslop
no one with a brain wanted this
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>>583520160
Yeah, that's very true. Someone living in the first world is almost invariably supporting or participating in an obscene number of outright evil industries, and while they may try to cope with "There is no ethical consumption under capitalism," the reality is more like almost everyone in the first world is a morally gutted pig who prefers comfort and personal gain above all else. But to maintain their ego and self-worth they need to find some kind of evil to focus on, so the military takes the fall: "sure, I do all of these obscenely evil things and support all these obscenely evil industries and sure I fund the military, but hey, at least I'm not IN the military"
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>>583520160
>killing animals
AH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD
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>>583521396
the coping mechanism is to not drive them to mass suicide otherwise many would be crushed under the weight of the moral dilemma
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steins shit lost
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>>583505265
Aeka route in Yume Miru Kusuri is attributed to him, too,
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KINOmasa won
umiNEGRO lost
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>>583514482
>KINOmasa*
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>>583526769
>KINOmasa
IDBvLT
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I love Karen
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>>583520294
It's not the same thing at all
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SEX WITH SAYA AND YOH
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>>583530310
nobody said it's the same thing. it's just easy to see why there is an overlap
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>>583520980
She won't let you hit lil bro
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>>583534089
OK? I was just helping a fellow human being but go off I guess



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