>Blizzard’s new version of World of Warcraft, based on its original 2004 release. Currently in beta, it will feature more than 1,000 new quests, nine new dungeons, new race/class combinations including Undead Paladins and Dwarf Shamans, and more. Level 60 will remain the maximum level cap forever.>News, Dev Blogposts & Podcasthttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/>Patch Noteshttps://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-september-24/2360696>Talent Calculatorhttps://forevertalents.up.railway.app>Release DatesName reservations on October 27th.November 4th>Beta GuildsType /who g-"Guild name" to see who's online, whisper anyone for an invite, or ask in thread.<Little Space> - PvP, Alliance (NA)<Lemon Party> - PvE, Alliance (NA)>Previous Thread>>583627440
what exactly attracts all the schizos to wowfg
Damn... the HD models look insane...
Tom Ellis confirmed fired. I have inside info. Not gonna be announced, they are just gonna let things die down. A quiet exit. Clampdowns in effect on unhinged employee social media posts in effect. Emergency PR lessons given to remaining staff. Blizzard does NOT want this launch to be fucked up.Chuds Win.... FATALITY
>>583652005It takes schizophrenia to play retail and they're squatting in here.
>>583652005Its mainly just one, and Im still not sure if its a bot or just a really mentally unwell person, it also feels like he thinks he's in the retail general since he regularly mentions posts that arent in the same thread
>>583652085me on the left thanks to hrt
>>583652005It's /vg/. When I used to play ZZZ during the first season some dude would come in literally every other day spamming scat. For like months.
>Average skelve player
>>583652005Just report and ignore and move on. one of the schizos seems to have stopped his avatarfagging it would seem and the threads improved somewhat
>>583652005The only general on 4chan that has reasonably well adjusted posters is the Doom/FPS general on /vr/
does anyone have the gif of a gnome fighting a troll player he thinks is a mob and the gnome has to run away then the troll player takes out a gun to shoot him?
>>583652148I was also a former ZZZ poster. Think after the prolapse spam i figured that /vg/ was just like this.
Explain what happened herehttps://x.com/wowforeverNOW/status/2107351040899346830?s=20
Oh look she's here
>>583652459All blizzard needs to do to keep this guy playing is have a GM do shit like this, and as long as he plays, all of his fans will pay.
>>583652225Bish, better not be talking about me. I only pig post once per thread and only up to 2 max times a day now. It's my daily check-in I use as I recover from a debilitating methamphetamine habit.
>>583652362>>583652148What is the World of Warcraft to ZZZ pipeline?
>>583652085me as the dog thrusting my 12 inch girthed out dog cock in that blue bum
>>583652085I made this
I will find me future wife in WoW Forever, will she play alliance or horde?
55 year old Swifty watcher and donator since the 2000s here. Here's to getting Fufu on my next coin toss.
>>583653050alliance but asmon already had her
>>583653050Horde for sure, the classic female tauren druid combo
>>583651589MORE
>>583652030This is how I imagined graphixx in 2026 twenty years ago. But instead we got gay disneyfied garbage made by literal rainbow troons
>>583653070Don't lose your pinky in someone's stinky like swofty did.
>>583652740Swifty with Ellen Joe.
>>583653252soulless ai/ue garbage is what you wanted? you're just as bad as the gay disneyfags
>>583652030>desaturates everythingGay.
>>583653365Damn I watched Switfty's pvp video back in the days and I started ZZZ for Ellen Joe..
>>583652167
>wanna be Tauren and level in mulgore>skelf has more enjoyable forms (especially when they low res them)> don’t wanna be a fucking skelf/spend the first 40 minutes of day 1 running to the Disney boatFuck, what do
>>5836520051) pserver trannies seething because their troonservers got shut down2) #nochanges uncs seething because changes
>>583653503real #nochanges uncs are in naxx as we speak tho
>>583653491Just make your furry Tauren. Personally I’m making a sex elf and getting the best starting area of all races, ending up far ahead of the pack.
>>583652225This is how I fart laying in bed. I’m a man btw
Based retard
>>583653503>1) pserver trannies seething because their troonservers got shut downthey have every right toI only looked into what turtle was after the wowf announcement cause I was never interested in pserversit's crazy how much closer it is to what classic+ is supposed to be compared to foreverI've been non-stop seething since they announced forever and I can't imagine what people who are actually invested in this are feeling, especially if they lost a server/characters they sunk a decade intoI had zero interest in playing any form of classic and knew with 100% certainty that blizz would mess it up and they still managed to disappoint meand it's even crazier how many people online are defending foreverI get being cynical and saying "idc I'll play it anyway" but there's people out there saying that the new creature models aren't so bad, the lightning is gay garbage, the tier sets aren't retail-coded, etc
>>583652459okay yeah this wwe need more of THIS. frontpage of reddit here come CONTENT KING hahaha
>>583653646Mulgore is the fastest zone to level in thoughbeit. I’ve sped run every single zone on a warrior to test and mulgore is 1h9m, then elwynn at 1.21. A lot of that is carried by the passive but you’re gonna be using that until 40
>>583653769>tanking for gold>in betaBet this shitlord sweater needs the gold to level up profs from 0. lol lmao
For my fellow huntards, /startattack/cast !Auto Shotworks as a 1 button bind for auto-attacking that covers both melee and ranged autos. Will melee if melee range or shoot if 8 meters away
>>5836537943 good sets on the left5 good sets on the right
>>583653769>hunters are charged extraI like this guy.
>>583653935makes sense but you are about 1000 years from anything
I will be leveling slow. I will be having fun.
>>583653769>instead of getting mad, pick someone else if you don't want meKWAB
horde need vulpera or it will be a dead faction
>>583653794the only reason I'm playing it is because all the classic- pservers were carebear slop and this is the best release to be a griefing yellowchud in years, possibly since 2019 with the dungeon xp nerf
>>583654081I will be leveling fast and having fun
>>583653456WOAH, that's a cute shark!
>>583653769based
I kinda am with JB and co. fucking with classic andies on twitter - they're the most annoying people ever and are easy marks/targets that show their asses. There's plenty of cool people too on classic, but they're not the ones bubbling to the top. But the posts about difficulty coming from many people always seem off-base to me.I feel like a lot of people (myself included) are up their own ass and have this weird relationship with difficulty in games, how 'factual' it may or may not be, difficulty as a value judgement, and so on. Difficult games are good, and I look good games, so the games I like are difficult. +15 keystones in retail and RFC on classic are both hold W content to me but if I ever implied RFC is as hard as a +15 I would be hung.
>>583653794jeezas i didnt know turdle had ugly ass sets like this
Elwynn farmhands are so lucky
I tried playing WoW on my Rog Ally X. The controls are completely dogshit. How the fuck is someone supposed to heal like that?
>>583654370needs a cage for her clitty
>>583652005Imagine the kind of "person" that plays retail World of Warcraft for literally any reason. Now imagine what that kind of person would post on 4chan.Now imagine what that kind of person would post amidst the outright sunsetting and shuttering of their containment game.
Retail is so dead its had 11 expansions
which heal spec actually feels good to play?It feels like they didn't change the other ones for shit and only priest is still the most versatile/fun
me with 20 days left on the beta but a lifetime left at 60 in forever
>>583654645You continue to use a site supposedly run by pedophiles? Hmmmmmmmm..
>>583654645
>>583654645i went into the xiv general and saw some lalafel shit I really wish I didnt
>>583654370Westfall farmers gotta make do
>>583654705He should be practicing his leveling route so he can reach raidlogging status on release as quickly as humanly possible.
>repair bots at campfireso theres no point in the higher level repair bot now? unless campfires won't be able to be placed in raid
>>583627270Imaging replying to this with anything other than complete hatred
>>583654892
>>5836546380.5 off the GCD and instant Healing Touches seems fun.
>>583654935>>583654892
>>583654706you know literally everything is made by pedophiliac blackmail jews right
>>583653769This wasn't a thing on turtle btw
im old yet want to relive my first year playing classic wow, will i be ostracized for not bothering with a mic or discord? i just want to fuck around as a dad and play a few hours a week when i'm off work after the kids go down
What am I suppose to be doing with all these Scrolls that's taking up space? Spam trade to find some mage to decipher them? Do you tip?
>he thinks Molten Core/ early raids will remain evergreen, and he can take three months to level and not fall behind
Why doesn't she get a lot of attention for lewds?
>>583655184unless something significant changes, classic does not really require any complicated communication. As a tank you will be able to tank any dungeon without mics, heal any dungeon without mics, and if you dps you can do basically any of the vanilla raids without a mic. The mechanics in classic historically are very simple. Also with the ping system they added, you can keybind these pings to communicate with players in game on where to go, dangerous monsters, etc...
They should make the cooldown when equipping items that have clickable effects to like 10s instead of 30s so you can reasonably use them in a fight.
>>583655180Russians are the only serious army fighting the globohomo empire. You're either a redditor (kys) or a seething butthurt belter (fair and understandable Russian hate)
>>583655184this is an embarrassing question if you're actually a dad and old enough to be one. why can't you install discord and just not talk? half the trannies in here do that anyway. it's a fucking game
>>583655184getting into raids might be a pain, but you'll be fine for any other type of content
>>583655429Umm sweetie, russia lost, didn't you see it in the NYT? The ukrainians damaged an oil refinery, so russia lost
>>583655184>want to relive my first year playing classic wow, will i be ostracized for not bothering with a mic or discord?Sitting in vent all day was part of the classic experience though?
>>583654892There are people who'll see this and insist that gnomes are the same thing. These people should be stoned to death and their bodies nailed to the highest building in town.
>>583655184>will i be ostracized for not bothering with a mic or discord?no, you literally dont need to say a single word once you join a guild and sign up for raids if you arent a tank even then it isnt necessary to talk
>>583655579fact
im bored of these characters you all play in here
>>583655184nobody will ask or expect you to use voice chat for anything other than raids, and even then it's only for guild runs and you can just listen in. No pug I ever ran in classic expected voice chat, and the idea of dungeons requiring it is laughable
the new ping system is actually great, works better than pinging the mini map
The pserver theads were unironically more enjoyable than here.
the quality of the thread reflects the quality of the game and playerbase.
The quality of this thread would improve with like two people being banned
>>583655326>>583655698thanks, i quit right after cataclysm and never really got back into it for long so idk how big of a change forever would be from what I used to do. didn't have time for classic when it first came out. >>583655432>>583655519mostly don't want to use a mic to disturb my family while playing, might keep me from screaming again. i've held off from joining discord thus far really don't want to get into it now.
>nobody running dungeons even on beta cross region except hunters and roguesnot looking good for launch
If Discipline is supposed to be the Power Word: Shield spec, why did they fill it to the gills with so many damage talents?
>>583656045you pws flash twice and shield again because of the talent that gets rid of weakened soul in 2 gcd
>>583655808Mirrors the playerbase. Pservers consist largely of players who simply enjoy the gameOfficial has a large portion of people who seek it for secondary reasons
What's the point of PI if all the casters are shaping up to be meh?
If I'm playing muti do I put deadly poison on both hands to make sure a poison debuff is up for the extra 20% or is just putting it on my fast weapon enough and I keep instant poison on the other?
>>583656185YOU decide who parses pink that week
>>583656138But you get what I mean, right? How does Power in Light, Twin Disciplines and Mental Agility fit into the strategy?
>>583656057
>>583655320Clearly shes hotter as a dragon
>>583656271power in light doesnt but the other two make renew and pws cheaper
>>583654638Paladin>shaman>druid>priest
>>583656035good.
>>583656389I guess? Mental Agility used to be only for instants, I don't know why they felt the need to make it for smite and holy fire too. I also forgot to mention Holy Precision.
>>583655320you get in trouble posting /ss/ and she's /ss/ bait the character.
>>583656373Imagine being the guy that tells katrina prestor to take the dragon form during sex
So is Forever good?Still waiting for my opt in beta invite
>>583652126he crossposts between generals, i think he just doesnt pay attention to which tab he has open
>>583656045>>583656271Good point, if it looked like this, it'd be much more exciting.
>>583656606Yeah I really like it besides the fog. They nerfed a very fun item though which has me worried about the future of the game if they're going to just remove fun items like that.
>>583656606its just fresh with some changes, itll be dead in 2 months
>>583656606what is the context of this image? Is this orc giving them windfury Totem?
>>583655184How are you a father and still uncomfortable talking to people online?
>>583656736nevermind I see him say it in the image.
>>583652085that wolf should be green
>>583656937yeah it should be beast boy
>>583656702Alternatively, have it so you get a talented ability that makes your damaging spells add 100% of the damage dealt to your currently active shields.
>>583656797i have nowhere else to go. but really we live pretty rural and i don't do much but raise my kiddos, workout, work, shoot guns, cook, play with kiddos, play vidya games. volunteer an exceeding amount since no one else wants to bother fixing or maintaining things. i joined like 3 'social' clubs since covid to volunteer and shit. i dress up as santa and pass out presents to poor children of methheads man i've got nothing else to do really. figured i'd get wow for the 6 month deal and after that i'd be bored with it.
>>583656797>>583657040sorry i misread your post, exactly why i don't like talking to people online outside of text. i'm retarded.
My Tauren has now plapped 3 female skelves in their bear form. Forever is peak :3
>>583657135Pics or it didn't happen
>>583656972>>583657121Who are you talking to?
>>583657227The selfie camera isn’t released for a few expansions :c
>>583657357i think she's asking for more cunnymane
>>583657135WoWF collar addon when?
>>583657040Jesus dude just play the game and if you feel like talking to people talk to them. Being so emotionally cucked by your family that you’re worried about “disturbing their peace” is a crazy way to live
>>583657603I deny this is real for my own sake
>>583657603This is based.
are warriors or druid more fun to tank with? I leveled a druid in the beta and a few times ive had to jump out of form and take over healing when my healer went oom and it was kind of cool. what's fun about warrior tanking?
>>583657656https://rentry.co/WoWCollarIt worked on Turtle
>>583611656https://files.catbox.moe/tp3rml.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/yw0t0z.png
How good is plainsrunning on anything that isn’t a hunter? Seems like you lose your stacks immediately and it only works for the very short windows where you’re running around cities (since you should always be attacking mobs unless you’re dumb)I ask cuz I’m torn on what race to roll on my Druid and naturally I’d pick Tauren but honestly skelf might just be better. At least I’d get use of the racials. War stomp is obviously insane but again only in PvP whereas gliding and haste is always good
>want to level up other classes and try them out>don't want to get burned out before launch because 1-10 is boring as fuck for every class
>>583657873its complete dogshit but you do run around quite a bit and with rested xp youll have optimal questing use my code :foreveronhrt!
>>583658019im going to do a quick run 1-30 before the betas over just to see the changes except i wont be able to do the dungeon quests because theres nobody doing them
>>583657873Its useless on shaman or druid which is the only reason id play tauren.Id go skelf if we got the ability to not use their shitty retail forms, but taurens 5% hp and 1% hit is nice, warstomp in form is also nice.
>>583657873Tauren also get +5% health, +1% chance to hit and a racial that basically gives them free herbs without herbalism.
>>583657809Damn this needs to be on forever.
>>583658224Zoram Strand?
what the flip is goin on in here
>>583657654i just don't want to talk with people while everyone else is trying to sleep.
I am excited to see what they do with the Sky Elf Models.Body type 3 and 4 which resemble that one Elf SD Model that an anon here kept linking? It kind of looked like a more Angular Night Elf.
>>583658178I feel like I know the one with the sepia-esqe baby face. I'm not saying the name bc i assume that's a ban or an alert for one, but I feel like I've seen that name before.
I will play enhancement and resto shaman
>>583658314yea
>>583658474what proffs?
I'm going priest with my friend, warlock soloH-paladin with my friend a second time, mage soloThen on hardcore I'll go Horde and make an undead pally and orc fury warrior.
>>583658414If they are adding SD models I hope they'll do it for the druid forms tooIt would be weird to use the SD model only to shift into the HD forms
>bt and sunwell will die and we won't get wotlk because of some trooned version of vanilla that will die in 3 months (NOT fashy und freshy)
classic+ mindraped so many people its amusing
>>583654105They will be added with the pirate raid
>Alliance has zero warlock trainers on Kalimdor in VanillaHoly fuck that sucks.
>>583658474Dual Spec?
>>583658786There's only 1 paladin trainer too.
>>583658786i remember how many times i died as my second character being a gnome warlock trying to get the felhunter pet
>>583658474>enhancementyou'll regret it
>>583658859You think they'll add more trainers in Kalimdor for alliance?
>>583658920When nelves get paladins in spring yeah
>>583658474>resto spd gear>enhancement talentswhats wrong with this for lvl 30
>>583658920hopefully not, it would be extremely unsoulful
>>583658224weird lighting.seems the moon is in front of those ruins.
>>583658786This is one of those stupid decisions with vanilla to not have every class trainer in every major city but the devs don't want to fix it because MUH NOSTALGIA.
>>583658920I guess it would be funny if there was some cave with Warlocks in it
>>583658130I feel like taurens are the sole reason why health potions moved from alc to first aid.
>>583658957Paladins of the Moon? It could be cool. But... they need Moon Knight Armor. It needs to fit their culture.
What hunter race for ally?Also what's for dinner?
>>583659069Where would you put a warlock trainer in Darnassus? Or a paladin trainer in Orgrimmar?
>>583659105Male night elf for gangsta shit or Dwarf hunter for sovl. They'll add back Gun spec trust the plan
>>583659194i hope they just get rid of trainers they literally dont matter at 60 therefore they dont matter during levelling
>>583659194>Where would you put a warlock trainer in Darnassus?there's plenty of empty space around, just add one of those trees that leads to a basement>Or a paladin trainer in Orgrimmar?add a building in the unused space near the back exit
>>583659105My girlfriend made some kind of Korean stew thing, kind of like gulasch but more Asian flavoured, pretty damn good
>>583655961>mostly don't want to use a mic to disturb my family while playing, might keep me from screaming again. i've held off from joining discord thus far really don't want to get into it now.U can get by in almost everything. Raids will probably require it, but may not even check if ur dps. it's very low mechanics so idk.I just thought it wouldn't even be a question, just play and do it your way.
ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS GENERAL
>streamers can freely rmt with no consequence>no dungeon exp>no dungeon mob exp>no new classes>bad balance classes>insane new gear power creep>shitty old gear>all leveling through quests>zero social aspects>unbalanced pvp>rogues top 1 dps because yes>all hybrids suck because hybrids>all twitch channels blatantly viewbotted>massive reddit post a sunset and get 3000 likes psyop>ugly new elf race>new elf race breaks lore>low effort elf race for both factions because it's cheaper>everyone still needs to be an engineer>endgame is still raidlog>speedrunning to 60 in 2 weeks and then raidlogging is still how the game is meant to be played>main dev literally said in a podcast he is going to make rogue the best class in the game because he wants to>main dev literally said in a podcast that the players are fucking retarded if they don't play rogue>biggest streamer is a nazi>biggest streamer killed his own motheryep, they gave up on wow fogever
does arms look like it will be fairly decent in pve now with the bloodthrill talent? i remember doing the rend/OP in sod and had a lot of fun in that and want to do it again here.
>>583659356>sunset found him squaring in the grass>every kangaroo…
dunno if i want my tank to be prot pal or prot war. i know prot war seems to be best spec for war, is prot pal good or is all the paladin love going to ret?
>>583659194>you just see pair of glowy eyes in bush/dark corner>psst>hey kid, wanna taste some fel magic?
>>583659453prot paladin is amazing.
im honestly suspicious that the doomposters are just jealous retoilets kicking and stomping their feet. It's sad.
>>583656045so should it just be a bunch of talents that affect PWS? you sound like such a dense fucking retard NGL SENPAI
>>583658414They will take original belf TBC models, add the sky elf customization and make it the SD version.
>>583659532Is Forever perfect? NoIs it the best thing since Legion? YesIs it the best thing since Classic? We'll see
hopefully the raid tuning is hard enough that the first raid takes at least 3 months to clear
>>583653794lmao those look horrible
One group with 2 Paladins and one with 2 Druids and both looking for a tank last spot.
>>583659657even ballbustingly difficult mythic raids that end up having to be nerfed multiple times gear cleared in a few weeks
>>583659532forever is just vanilla fresh that willl die in 2 months just like every other slop version of classic theyve thrown out since the first 7 years ago
>>583659343kimchi stew? heard its good but never had
>>583657796>what's fun about warrior tanking?taking dps loot so you can reroll dps eventually.
>>583659657there is literally no raid being developed in the modern gaming world that would take that long to beat if it was remotely functional.
>>583659769and?blizzard wants the race to world first over within 2 weeks, there's no pressure to nerf stuff in forever
>>583659748Warlock here, I'll tank.
>>583658224Imagine being impressed by 20+ year old technology
Is it me or does Destro Lock look fun as fuck? Alternating shadows and fires to make ghe most of debuffs you need to keep up at all time, timing Doom so it ticks when your +shadow damage is up, feels like a real rotation instead of shadowbolt spam
>>583653794So by the time we're on the 3rd content patch is everyone just going to be wearing retail style armor and running around in retail style zones fighting retail style mobs?
>>583659869you don't think the streamers are going to do a race to forever world first?
>>583659884The succ's hand placement in the screenshot crop makes it look like she's pregnant.
>>583655320>>583656373I can fix her
>>583659453Every paladin spec will be amazing, remember to say thank you aggrend.
>>583659657>thinking the average classic gamer would like thatthis is your #1 warrior in vanilla, top speedrun guild and parser yet cant do simple wrath mechanicshttps://streamable.com/phmm9k
>>583659632Classic came after legion thoughbeit
>>583659930>streamers racing to forever world firstdepends, the wider community/internet hasn't given a fuck about world first kills since wotlkBig streamers will want to do it if its possible fairly quickly and if their nolife slaves can pull them through. If it takes a bit of work it will be the usual nobodies who also happen to stream (which would be preferrable)
>>583659884Warlock is looking great atmMy only major complaint is talent bloat in Demo
>>583660116i love undead femalesthey cute
>>583659883NTAit's about s o v l. Painting is older than 20 years old and I'm sure you could admire some paintings.
>>583660063>thoughbeit
based janny pulled the trigger
>>583655184Very few people will actually enforce some sort of Microphone rule but they will ask that you listen in for coms. Just make a throwaway account and join in your web browser. But even then, that'll only be for raids. I can't imagine anyone being that serious outside of them.
For me it’s the humble Druid, gods what a good class for classic Did blizz do the correct thing of adding class quests every 10 levels or are they still retarded? Btw it should be every 5 levels and that should be how you get your spells rather than buying them)
Glad to see AI nightelf cunny completely broke some poor faggot.
>>583660026What a tunnelvisioning niggerape. This guy has zero awareness.
>Pika won 100 duels in a rowOf course he's playing a priest and abusing the shit out of penancewhy did we need to add a busted wotlk ability again?
>>583660147I didn't know they let orcs become paladins
>>583660026>>583660423The funny part is that's exactly how your average wowowawa player is, the only difference is that 99% of them don't record their retarded shit.
Small Cat Person on a skateboard with a vape.He says things like "bodied that fweak".His race/class?"Undead Male War-wock"
>>583659105My bitch made salmon and prawn fried rice. It was good as fuck.
>>583660430needmorebuttonstopress
>>583660147BOK BOK
I wish they'd introduce a class that requires some multitasking
>>583660528But if you do that shit once you get your dkp nuked, do it the next time you get kicked. What kind of a shit guild is that?
blizzard killed their own game before launch nerfing dungeon quests, nerfing dungeon exp and dungeons giving 0 exp entirely if a single person is 1 level too high that a mob is grey inside the instance
>>583660581I think melee weaving hunter is pretty up there at higher levels.
>>583660581They did that before in retail, it was called outlaw rogueit was too complicated and caused repetitive strain injuries in everyone who played it so now no one plays it anymore
>>583660679very based of them, but I'm sure they will cave to the screeching tards don't worry
>>583660581That's warlock. Other classes barely need to bother with focus target or dot timers or all the active pet abilities.
Night Elf Females run so cutely. I'm not even saying that in a sexual way. Like they run so cute. They hop and run. It is so adorable.
>>583660712>BUTWHATABOUTRETA-nobody caresnobody askedgo back
>>583660746their hands move retardedly
>>583660738>its based that the dungeon gives no exp because the tank is level 25 and arugal is level 26
>>583654815
>>583660679it's insane, I know, there are no games to play, I feel like the games that stay untouched are more fun to play and dedicate long term than anything a corporation touches today, it's so crazy that playing brood war, warcraft 3 and dota 2 is the best gaming you can do and all those games are 15/20/25 years old
>>583660679>that a mob is grey inside the instanceNah it starts way before the gray point.
why is shaman the least popular class?
>>583660814did i s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s stutter? go cry on reddit, im sure they will cave soon
Have you found your Forever home yet?
>>583660679Aggrens will make a post soon about how he had so much fun running the same dungeon 8 times in row for lvl30 bis tho. Sounds like a you issue if you aren't having fun!
>>583660774i don't care that nobody cares lmao
>>583660847no one wants to play Dwarf on Alliance
>>583661007D V O R V E SA R ES O V L
Classic is built on boosters, gdkp and rmt.If you aren't with the pack the first week of launch, you will never get to experience any dungeon other than the endgame ones
>>583660847lowest dpsworst solo classslowest levelingbad aestheticbad class fantasy
PLAY ALLIANCE
My ideal game: I stand in Stormwind and click on a minigame board to do autobattler quests to unlock lootboxes while I sit in raid finder queThe Forever dev team? I'm on it.
>>583660679no refunds btw
>>583661007just use an addon
>>583660581Hunter and warlock have pets too manage. Even if it's just binding their attack and return.
>>583661196To be honest I've lived a "successful" life since I quit after cata 10ish years ago. It was fucking gay and soon I'm going to quit my job and focus on video games, reading, and autism strolls.
>>583661196Game Development and Gaming is one of the most spiritual things you can do on this Earth.
>>583661168Someone post the rotating cog video, you know which.
>>583660923This is pretty standard guild on RP servers desu
How much was dungeon experience nerfed specifically? I'm having trouble finding hard numbers.
what spec should i lvl as for pally? thinking ret or holy
>>583659105Dorf
>leave dungeon exp alone>leave classes alone>add the new zones except skelfland>add high elf for Alliance and darkfallen for Horde for obligatory BElf model>add the new dungeons and raidsWould it have gone over better?
I genuinely don't believe anyone is being serious about wanting to keep 1.12 balance around.
>>583660581I was thinking about if Necromancer got added as a class they could have a tank spec of sorts where instead of their usual "summon a bunch of undead" you summon one big one and it acts as the tankFunctions somewhat similar to a hunter pet but more involved, so it's like a tank spec that you have to micromanage some
>>583661392Yeah it would of.But the thing is, I think Blizzard was doing an esoteric ritual. It is why so many are confused with their choice, but I understand it. And Sky Elves appeal to me specifically.
>>583661306Blizzard polish has not been a thing since ever
>>583661374ret to get pursuit of justice then prot
>>583661374retkeep 1h and shield in bag so you can tank dungeons
>>583652085you just know....
if the beta has shown me something, it is that I have to focus on 1 character, I have leveld 3 to 20 and have no desire to ever enter WC or other dungeons again...........
So what is going to happen when they release a new race or class and the game is already deadThey really didn't think this out very wellNo one is going to want to level on realms already ran through with max level players already
Weren't we promised 16 legacy points to be given out in beta?
>>583661701but think of the legacy points you're giving up by not leveling alts again in the world...because you arent getting a dungeon group again on an alt youre missing out on bonuses like an extra herb that you would otherwise have to pay 1s for on AH
>>583654892Why?
>>583661752everyone is going to have a class they havent gotten to 60 yet so they migth as well level one for LP as the new race
I want to see those new Sky Elf Models.
>>583661752The problem with the realms on classic was that leveling populations were split up.You should basically always have fairly populated zones even years into forever. Legacy points also help this along.
New races and new classes are not content.
>>583661752having their guild boost them for the dungeon quest exp, otherwise theyre stuck questing like peasantsno more boosted to 60 in 1 day with your real job money
>>583661126Raneman's art was my favorite right next to Samwise's.Shame these great artists were replaced by these deviantart furfag hacks.
>>583661752they are going to release a surprise new class, tinker and then you'll watch a psyop on reddit twitch and youtube where everyone pretends this saved forever and is the greatest thing ever that would make the mossad blush
>>583654892our threads are faster than wowgso forever > retailhowever, ffxiv threads are faster than usso ffxiv > forever
>>583661846Heck, even transmog adds onto this.
>>583661846the zones and dungeons are dead 2 weeks into the beta, itll only be worse at max when people dont feel like taking a month to level an alt because they have a job they had to take paid vacation to reach max level the first time so they could experience the content while its fresh
>>583661927So if we start having ERPing avatarfags then forever is saved?
>>583661452There is a shocking amount of people who want to make the 100% correct meta choice on the character select screen. For vanilla this was obviously warrior. Even retail has people swapping to a new class every season just to get more M+ invites.
>>583661808lol the people that optimize the fun out of the game are going to just roll an alt and the server will have a healthy experience for allseems pretty naive to think such a thingthis is going to fuck over new players
>>583661978Dead zones are a blessing, it's way faster to level up with no one around. This is the social experience we were promised in Forever
>>583661978>paying to beta test
>>583661990what new players? we're all mazed old fucks here
excavation site is fucking awful
>>583661980The game would be saved.The general would be cemented.
>>583662036i bought lunch and got beta for free
>>583661985They should periodically fuck around with the balance just for the sake of shaking up the metaIt might sound retarded but dota and POE have been doing it for years and it has never failed to keep people coming back to try new shit
>>583662036>30 for sex elves>15 for a month sub>15 to play the betaIt's alright.
Having maxed out talented might actually convince me to level more alts. Reaching your juicy break points 5 levels early is a good motivation.
>dataminers found some npcs involved in a new alliance Razorfen Kraul questchain>it's a fucking south park referenceWhat?? Why?? Why?!
>>583662102They're fucking around with balance now and everyone is crying.
>every profession grants a tiny bonus>races all competitive, no clear winner>no fucking idea whats going to give the most dps at 60being a parse tranny is hard
>>583662102People will just quit, like they do in all other version of Classic.It has nothing keeping players there its a raidlog simulator
>>583662102WoW literally already does this with retail. They randomly mix up which specs are going to be way stronger than others each season.
>>583662162>everyone is crying.That means they're doing it right.
>>583662068shit responsebut par for the course for a retoilet blizzard matches your vibeand retail's game state
>>583662150member south park fellow boomers? XD XD XDD
Taking the PvE pill for first time in my life. Getting too old for this shit when I just want to get something done and with mega servers there's always going to be people around.
>>583662162>cryingBecause they think if they're loud enough they'll get buffsand they're right, they already caved to warriors
>>583662174>>every profession grants a tiny bonusThis was never confirmed.
>>583662187but retail i can reach max level in an afternoon
>>583662150that episode of south park was possibly the biggest source responsible for wows early popularity and also south parks best episode. im surprised there havent been more references to itas for why RFK? remember what they did in that episode. they farmed boars.
I NEED a boob slider in wow
gib lupos
>>583662025He's retarded, there are no dead zones, but the laying is still fucked beyond belief
>>583662150What the hell does the south park episode have anything to do with RFK though?
Soon**Eventually****Maybe******Hopefully
>>583662303Anon, I made it up, there is no Alliance questchain for RFK.
>>583661980None of you are discussing game mechanics. This thread has been literally the same type of frequent visitor chatroom for days already.
>Classic has no end game, it's just a raid log sim, everyone just quitsWhen the game is over, yes it's time to stop, that's why people advocate for refreshes, no one wants to travel the same route that got us to the current retail expansion or any of the ones that came before, they want to play the game when it was popular when it was fun, when it didn't have a bunch of hamfisted political correctness shoved into it
>>583662303That episode aired at the tail end of Vanilla.
>>583661893Having a legendary group of artists working for your company and then kicking them all out and replacing them with tumblr and deviantart furfag "artists" has to be one of the most hilarious blunders of the gaming industry.
soooo horde gets everything but dalaranbetter quest rewardseasier questsmore dungeons and dungeon quests
>>583662537fi ri spitting fire over here
>>583662537>europoors and chinksoof
I think I have made peace with Skyborne and Forever in generalIt was never going to be the Classic+ I wantedIt was never going to have the High Elves from Quel'thalasI had convinced myself that it was simpleJust take Classic and add new stuff on top of itStuff that was familiar and often requestedIt felt so obviousBut I should have known they would rock the boat and rock it hardI am never going to have the version of WoW I wanted. The one that adhered to Warcraft 3, free from retail lore. I don't know how I gaslit myself into thinking this would be differentBut I think this is a good thingI am over it nowI am free
>>583662636>>583662523
>>583662315Implementing sliders on Forever would be much easier task since literally all he armor is just painted on as opposed to retail, where they added extra 3D elements, which would either need to be scaled as well or just clip.On the other hand, the SD models have polycount so low it would look really bad to go above the default size of anything.
>>583662480>that's why people advocate for refreshesthats why the population shrinks every fresh
>>583662426Maybe they're saving Ogres for a Dire Maul update? Considering the Skyborne are also involved in Dire Maul.
>>583662426>>583662740You are actually retarded if you think Ogres are ever going to be playable
Bring it back
>>583662694funny how people don't stick around when you only add stuff that makes the game worse and only appeals to gay race communists ruining what people like so you can feed your leftist snarker brain and feel morally superiorcan you really blame them for not wanting to be around someone like you
>>583662807Why am I not allowed representation?
>>583662447I played the beta till death and decided it wasnt worth burning out to try another class. Ill just shitpost whilst I wait for the drip feed of news. Hopefully once beta is over we get more open discussions about their plans for balancing the classes and leveling experience.
>>583662247idk PvP might have been fun 20 years ago when everybody was a noob, but nowadays I assume it is just autists and their friends ganking lowies on cooldown in strangleporn, does not sound fun
>>583661893Pretty sure Samwise was also a furfag, the man constantly put out furry bara drawings.But he also somehow never put out anything sexual nor was ever confirmed as a homo so who can say. He might've been a once-in-a-generation furry artist that wasn't actually a furry or a faggot. If so, we may never see someone like him again.
>>583662897Cause dangerhairs don't want chuds represented
I played wow in the beginning of the year this year, played in TBC.At first I started lvl 58 I bought the boost and started questing and a couple quest go by I started realizing how lonely and boring wow really is. I’m all for exploring the world but when u have to walk 10mins just to go pick up 10 flower on the floor right next to the mobs and go walk back for 10mins gets really annoying. I joined dungeon group run to lvl and bomb it felt like I’m actually playing the game I wanted to play which be in a group and lvl together. It made me feel like I’m not alone. Getting home from work eating dinner and got an hour or 2 to play just to quest and get only 1 or 2 quest done is such a waste of time compared to be in a group content lvling is just amazing. I get most ppl will say oooo his crying and doesn’t wanna play the game that’s intended to be played. But why would I go thru a lvl phase by myself when I only got 1 or 2 hours. I wanna come home get on LFG get in group and talk to ppl while getting good do in dungeon. Wow gets boring over time when you’re lvling alone
>>583662845>hey Claude, code me an addon for wow forever that will list all the stat gains after level up in the chat window like pic attached
>>583662807You're retarded if you think they won't be. People have asked for ogres since 2004. They added Mechagnomes and Lightforged Draenei and Highmountain Tauren and Earthen and Haranir before Ogres. They added Pandaren and Kul'tiran Humans which have the exact same "problems" as Ogres.
>>583662912>I assume it is just autists and their friends ganking lowies on cooldown in strangleporn, does not sound funNot playing for 2 days after level increase and then having skull level people camping tarren mill was a wakeup call.
>>583663031And people have been asking for high elves for just as longBut look where we are now
>>583663009Someone already did
I don't know where else to post this but the Forsaken Kingdom campaign was great, you should play it.
>>583663084Blood Elves and Void Elves and Skyborne are all High Elf variants.
>>583662953He did invent the pandaren.But then he also had this badass variant called "pandyr" stylized more like vikings.He also drew hot chicks whether they were regular women or actually sexy dwarves, sometimes with their tits even.It's really about the very specific style.
>>583663071If you play on pvp you have to play with or ahead of the packWhen I leveled to 30 I saw less than 5 horde, and the ones I did see were lower level than me trying to gank people in Duskwood
So there's no reason to use the AH now because everything is sold at vendor price
>>583663148more elf recolors no one asked for, thanks retail
>>583663148And people have been asking for the variant seen in the Silver Covenant, the various High Elf Lodges, and Allerian StrongholdPeople have also asked for Dark TrollsYou know what they got instead?Haranir
>>583663148Skelfs have nothing to do with high elves thus are nelf variant.
>>583662953The literal one-in-a-billion "I draw furry creatures because I think they look cool" artist.
Jesus christ revenge does so much damage and the blocking spec gives infinite rage, is prot leveling actually the go-to now?
>>583663206that's not true at allbut yes the economy is le wacky because it's a degenerate lvl 30 beta economyhope this helps
>>583663128I didnt really like it. How I imagined the moments after Terenas' death and how the Forsaken started was cooler in my head.
>>583663268atm yes but patch in 2 days might change things
>>583663128It was genuinely the only time I felt joy playing anything Warcraft related in the past few years
>>583663268Yes. Not only can you do dungeons with ease, you can also aoe tank mobs in the open world
>>583663268I wonder how viable prot would be in pvp. Shield Slam seems like it might hit like a truck along with the survivability of a 4min cd Shield Wall.
>>583662610KILL DAT TURTLE MON
hunters and undead paladinsthat's the only classes people are going to playblizzard is in desperate need of new leadership that actually likes the ip
>>583663232Tought titty, but Blood Elves are right there, the only difference is the eyes.>dark trollsPeople would be pissed at this for the same exact reason they're pissed at Void Elves and Skyborne, you know that right?
>>583663226Just make sky elves have the ability to customise skin colour with 200+ colours and call it a day.
>>583663031Yeah they added completely new OC races (haronir, vulpera, dracqueers) before adding OgresThey have made up completely new things before adding OgresWhich should show you how much they don't want to add ogres
>>583663414As a hunter main I hate that every retard is going one
>>583663443speedrun this shit to the state retail is in
>>583663502They're saving Ogres as a "break in case of emergency".
>make fun gun>immediately gut everything fun about ithttps://youtu.be/9NFNXeR1kEk
>>583663442Difference being dark trolls were a thing in WC3Show me the mission where you meet Void Elves
>>583663508Anon... you ARE one of the retards.
Nobody is playing ogre. Stop deluding yourself.
>>583655310>he thinks level 60 raids will release before March 2027
>>583663586i saw that gun getting removed as soon as it was datamined
>>583663553Nah, Chinese don't like ogres.
>watching paladins and shamans run up and 2 shot mobs>druids pulling 6 mobs at a time and having them all die to thorns>meanwhile I'm slowly wanding mobs to death on priest
>>583663553>Implying their "break in case of emergency" isnt another elfLet me make it simple for youPeople want to play pretty racesPeople do not want to play ugly racesPeople will not come back for ogresThey might come back if they can make something attractive
>>583663692so multidot like a non-retardalso abuse the totally broken wand kiting
>>583663692they nerfed wands too, they no longer scaleworld of thornscraft
ALEXENSUAL GAVE YOU CLASSIC PLUS
>>583663692I'm playing a level 16 druid and entangling roots do not do enough damage or hold for long enough to get 6 mobs at a time.I'm struggling with 2 mobs.
>>583663790>multidotwow its fucking shit, thats like 3 wand hits
Why cant night elves be magesThey can already use arcane we see Tyrande and Malfurion and Druids and Priests use arcane spellsSo why cant they just have a Mage?
>>583663919ok keep sucking ass idc
>>583663670You're wrong, but following your logic, they should add another race of gnomes, because Ne Zha 2 was a smash hit in China.
>Blizzard explicitly tells you there is no rush this time, we are here forever>Horizontal progression explicitly called out as the approach this time round, which is a must because there will be no expansions as we know them from the past>Players are STILL thinking you need to rush to 60, missing 90% of the new content>These same players will be the most vocal online about how there is "no content", because they have 650 hours /played at level 60 1 month into releaseWhy are they like this? You will gain an advantage over players for about a month or so, then as time progresses, everyone else will have comparable gear to you and you will no longer stomp because you've only ever relied on that advantage of time.
>>583664029>Horizontal progression explicitly called out as the approach this time round, which is a must because there will be no expansions as we know them from the pastThey confirmed there willbe vertical progression
>>583663930The Theme of Night Elves is previous catastrophe caused by abundant magic use, and now they resort to Nature and Moonlight.
I like how porn addicted furries are trying to rationalize a professional artist not catering to their needs and how they can find any degen shit from himGod damn, what a sheltered existence
Thursday patch changes>sub heavily changed>rogue buffs>hunter nerfs>dungeon exp changes>ele shaman removed from the game>thorns/retri aura killed
>>583663930mages became Demon Hunters in the lore
>>583664029They should just do level locked phases at launch like in the beta/SoD. The only ones that will cry are the unemployed sweat lords.
>>583663930they had mages once upon a timethere also used to be a whole big continent where the ocean now is
>>583664112>>ele shaman removed from the game It hurts because I wanted to main ele but FUCK lava burst
>>583664094But we see druids and priests use arcane from EluneWhy cant they have mages that do the same?
>>583664029>Why are they like this?everyone quits in a month, have to play when its still relevant
>>583663692I hate how they didn't even bother to balance specs for leveling. Basically every class is still pigeonholed into playing 1 specific spec from 1-60 because the other 2 options are so astronomically less efficient.
>>583664159Don't worry, they're totally going to rework shaman and make it decent
>>583664171My guess is thatIt would be too much Arcane power. The Druids and the Priests use just enough before it becomes too much...
>>583664171why do they have to be mages, why can't they be priestesses of the moon
>>583662845https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/forever-statistics
>>583663919dual whield wands, when ?
>>583664171It's rule of cool. The Theme calls for no Mages. It's a Naturey Priesty civilization. Ruined Mage Buildings with columns.
>>583664250What is the difference if both use arcane?
>join forever a month after launch>hard to find a group to do a dungeon with>finally get a group>ok everyone hug the wall were skipping everything>but my quests? i dont care about your quests>o-ok>get no exp, no loot, no quests finished>logoff for the day
>>583664171idk bro maybe it's not just "le arcane" how you autistically imagine it? it's whatever random shit they want it to be, there can be 1 arcane, or 10 arcanes, there is no well-defined rules for "arcane", it is what it is nigga
>>583664367I simply would not accept that.I'd form my own group with like minded players and we'd enjoy the dungeons.
>>583663692Is this a meme or do I just suck? Im playing ele shaman and I feel like I do totems lightning to pull, fire shock and swing for like 15 seconds to kill anything my level (slightly longer than the dot time).
>>583663930The spells do arcane damage but aren't arcane magic, think of it like heat and fire, fire is hot but not everything that's hot is fire. The Night Elves who become mages are shunned, exiled, imprisoned or executed in Warcraft 3 and Vanilla. In Wrath of the Lich King, the taboo against arcane magic is weakened, and in Cataclysm they fully re-integrate the Highborne of Shen'dralar into their society, allowing Night Elf Mage characters to be made.
>>583664327Priests draw upon the power of the beings they worship, mages have to study. This is how it is in basically every fantasy setting
>>583664254That has nothing to do with picrel.
>>583664327there's a big difference, priestesses of the moon make sense, mages only make sense if you're an autistic child that's arguing in bad faithyou're the type of person that's miserable to be around and ruins everyone's fun till it gets what it wants, lotta your kind on the official forums
>>583664430>Im playing ele shamanYou're playing the spec that's worse than the vanilla version.Just don't.
>>583664091They said there will be minor stat increases. Your set is going to give you like +5 primary stats and + 5 sp>>583664127I was surprised they didn't either desu>>583664182>have to play when its still relevantcongrats on being the exact player I described and still not being able to see it
>>583664462oh shit mbhttps://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/forever-level-gains
>>583664430I mean enhance.
>>583664430you know what they say anon, if you build a 1000 bridges and suck on dick, you are not a bridge builder, you are dick sucker
>>583664584Asmongold viewer get a job touch grass
>>583652740Classic and ZZZ are both Ojisan games
I like playing no pet Hunter
>>583664367This never happened in 'niller 04-06, 'BC 06-08, or 'K 07-10.
Gnomeregan was not very good place to test if Mutilate is good.
>>583664367never happened in the history of WoW, retail or private servers
>>583664556That has to do with picrel, but it's just not the same...I'll probably still use it, thanks
>>583664367that is just a retarded unrealistic scenario you made up in your headthere will be plenty of people leveling up characters for a long time, especially given megaservers, unless forever is a total disaster (in which case it doesn't matter anyway)stop being such a self-defeating faggot you sound so fucking pathetic
Best S Tier racials for race and class on HordeOrc WarriorOrc RogueBest S Tier racials for race and class on AllianceNight Elf RogueNight Elf DruidNight Elf Hunter
>>583664367And other stories that never happened.
>>583652740There's a contingent of WoW 'ssic players, 'smongold viewers mostly, who are also huge 'eebs and fans of gacha. I knew a guy who quit SoD to play 'sume.
>>583664367why are people there if not for the quests?
>>583664761>>583664720>>583664685in those version of wow you didnt get 0 mob exp or 10 exp max for elite kills inside a dungeon picking up hilarys necklace at the bottom of the lake and returning it in redridge nets you more exp in 5 minutes than an hour long dungeon run in wow forever where you killed everything
>>583652005We haven't been invaded by vtuberfags yet.
>>583664828>asmongold viewers>fans of gachaTrue, pajeets do infest gacha games
>>583664626but i do not watch asmongold, and make like 4k € a month.....
>>583664872that's completely false, retard
>>583664003They are the sole reason blood elfs and now sky elfs were added.
>>583664903Nah, this 'ood was from Ohio.
>>583664963>he hasnt played the beta
Anyone else wanting to play less the more you see of the community?>HR runs>tanks selling tanking services>ppl losing their shit over rolling for class, not for role/spec, in leveling dungeons>balance whining already especially mages>ppl FOMOing that raids open too early, fear of "falling behind">insane dungeon skipping due to no EXPNot to mention some of the questionable changes from the devs
ohh boy, another boring pivot to asmongoldpreach sis
>>583664774I don't care anymore I'm playing Tauren.
>/wowfg/ really thinks Forever will somehow make happy both the vanilla enjoyers that likes Warcraft as a offshot of Warhammer (left pic) with the Retail crowd that see Warcraft as a offshot of Disney (right pic)Blizzard will have to make a choice eventually, and the second crowd is bigger, more obedient, less demanding, and dominant within Blizzard too. Smurfs should already be a clear sign of where the game will eventually go
>>583665014wow forever is literally classic minusnot only did they add the anti-boost mechanics (mobs immune to aoe and stun through pally bubble) they also give you ZERO exp if someone in your party is 6 levels higher
>>583665014None of those are happening
>people still failing the WC jumpI thought they made it so if you just walk straight you can pass it through forward momentum alone.
>>583664967Elves don't feature prominently in Chinese popular culture and belves and skelves don't have the right features for cultivatio. You can't give the males proper beards like the male heroes in Wuxia have, and they look far too western to fill the role of the flower boy.
>>583665014Nah fuck these queers.It's going to be different once the thing actually goes live and all the gamer moms and dads as well as other normies start playing.Remember this is still just beta that streamers are meant to advertise and retards to pay for to play with their favorite streamers (and bot makers to prepare).
>>583665181You could've always just run the gap. No changes needed for that.
>>583665142I also just play what I find cool.
>>583665014>>583664367you doomtroons are so dishonestdungeon quests still give retarded xp, nearly everyone will do them on every character, not to mention the free and powerful bluesthere is also considerably increased incentive to level alts with legacy boints and to experience class changesnobody is going to do dungeons while skipping quests, that makes no fucking sense because the whole point of them is now to complete the questsdumb faggots kys :)))))f
>>583665223I've heard some talk about asians whining about having to play ugly races and thus not playing Horde at all. Back in 2007. Thus, an attractive race was added to horde.
>>583665152Personally I don't want either of those groups to be happy. The nillers want #nochanges, which would make Forever completely pointless. The retoilets just want a simpler retail.
>>583665223They just like pretty characters, that's the whole point.That's why saying "stupid ugly fat retards are the break-glass-in-case-of-emergency addition".
Hey anons will there be a /wowfg/ community chat? I hope I can invite some of you wiggas to our raids... my homie will talk and I'll be a heal slut.
>>583665164>i can't boost bawwwwget fucked
>>583652005it's /vg/ in general/lolg/ had a guy spamming blacked porn 12h a day for 5 years or more/gw2g/ had a schizo for years who botted the thread 24/7 to copy and paste posts from other generals, making it unusable and getting it banned/mmog/ was created to contain schizos from other MMO generals but it got so bad it was banned too
>>583665312Yes and if you search for gooks comments over Forever on Twitter, the overwelmingly majority of them are happy with the Smurfs because they allow them to play a pretty Horde race
>>583665312>>583665329Your flawed logic falls apart under scrutiny. There are no playable monkeys in WoW.
>>583665305>>583665014>>583664367FURTHERMORE, boosting is buckbroken, so every character has to actually do the dungeon to get the busted quest xp (yes it's still busted after le nerf)FURTHERMORE, megaserver gives a massive pool of players to draw on for your dungeon group
>>583664872hyperbole fags need to be put down.
>>583665348>doing a dungeon where youre lower level than the final boss but 5 levels above the mob at the entrance is boosting therefore you dont get any exp
>>583664963>>583665456Do you even play the game or do you only post here?
>>583652030Aion 2 actually looks like this, but with long ass texture pop ins every scene change.
>>583665152those are the same picture, out of combat tauren are just big cows that love a good skritch
>>583665686False, there's no big titties in that webm.
Will I have fun with druid?
>>583665014>HR runs>tanks selling tanking services>ppl losing their shit over rolling for class, not for role/spec, in leveling dungeonsAll of this is caused by megaservers and design choices that foster a(nti)social behavior.HRs are not necessarily for small group content if you have friends. You can simply ask your friends to join and tell them I need this thing. For raid content there are guilds, who distribute the loot their own way. People who have tank friends don't need to buy tanks selling services. Large population also causes behavior like this to occur. In smaller populations, shame would adjust their behavior accordingly. You'd be known as the greedy faggot.They are trying to fix some issues by treating the symptoms rather than the cause. Unfortunately the cause isn't very easy to fix.
>>583665410As is literally everyone else.
>>583665743probably not in the beta since the early levels for druid are the worst since they have no options really
>>583665564I accept your cumsession
>>583665419Wdym? Most races can be black, even the gnomes.
>>583665152The Warhammer that World of Warcraft is based on hasn't existed in more than 20 years, arguably 30.
forever isnt even going to last a month at this rate with the changes
>>583666001dont worry they still have 3 weeks to get balance just perfect!
>>583665913The aesthetics remained the same, gritty grimm and virile, even in offshot vidyas like Warhammer Total Was
>>5836660283 weeks of more buffs to paladins!
>>583666045No they fucking didn't. The Warhammer that Warcraft was based on was goofy bullshit and the "EPIC GRITTY GRIMDARK" shit came about later.
How did we get to the point that raiding is considered the "actual" game, even by many classic gamers? Back when WoW was in development, raiding was an afterthought in the MMORPG space. Basically a afterthought time waster activity meant for the people who had played through the actual game.
>>583665913>>583666045Blizzard couldn't even dream of making a game with art direction and graphics like TWW3
>>583666271Ah yes, the goofy original Warhammer where Beastmen had to enslave and rape human women to reproduce, got it
>>583666308wow became about raiding the moment they hired tiglo and co., so about 2003
>>583666348Beastmen weren't fully-formed in the Warhammer that Warcraft was inspired by, they were just mooks in the Chaos army.
>>583666308No it always was the goal and main game. A lot of clueless casuals didn't get there like you so maybe that's why you're confused.
>>583653794>that Druid setUmmmm that appeals to the male gaze, sweaty. This is very problematic.
>>583666308nolife autists who obsessed over being stronger and efficient at all costs and didn't see the point in anything that didn't work towards thatin other words, people like jeff kaplan, so it's been like that by design from the start
>>583666308No for the devs that were often Runescape nolifers Raid was always the core experience and everything in the game was build with that in mind, hence the mostly horizontal progression. Simply the overwelmingly majority of the playerbase during Vanilla and TBC didnt cared nor they were skilled enough to do serious raid
>>583666493>lesbians dont existthats very homophobic of you
theyre saying warrior is the worst class in the game with ww axe(a lvl 40 weapon btw in a lvl 30 beta btw)
Ironically Rogue is a pure PVE class right now.
>>583666171its fine they have the 5% damage malus from hybrid taxthey will receive additional quality of life, utility and healing upgrades though but it all balances out thanks to the hybrid tax!
>>583666471VGH....the original wholesome and family-friendly Warhammer...
>>583665152I know it's hearthstone but this card redesign really captures the enshitification of warcraft
>>583666581yea it's kinda raped class before max level when you can gear and optimize
>>583666621isnt poison rogue supposed to reign supreme in pvp now
>>583666621>can kill anyone within cheap shot>pure pve
>>583666674>VGHwhat does the vancouver general hospital got to do with anythang
>>583666621How?They changed nothing about its CC chain.
kinda hype, haven't looked at literally anything but the trailer
>>583666705idk in vanilla you hit lvl 30 and get your biggest powerspike: sweeping strikes
>>583666674That artwork is from 2022 and doesn't even serve as a counterargument, they look like Halloween decorations.
>>583666783every class has stealth detection and theyre the weakest class
>>583666839skill issue
>>583666839you cant detect a stealthed player behind you
nothing personal rogue
>>583666821it's not the same game anymore
>>583666839tards just dont know how to adapt. They'll spend all their energy on a cheap + kidney combo on a druid in bear form to do 10% of his health instead of using the rest of the kit.
>>583666783That is simply my finding after playing exactly 1 match of Battlegrounds.
>>583666952>what if skull of impending doom was boiling shit?
>>583666958oh i thought meant thats how the class always was
>>583667025you can cancel the stun.
>The journey really is, what the game is - Blizzard>AHHHHHHHHH MY DUNGEON XP HAS BEEN NERFED!!!!!! FUCK BLIZZARD CLASSIC MINUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - retard
>>583666952>guy stuns himself>just stop attacking and restealth, open up with another cheap shop into full kidney
>>583666952Use case of stunning yourself like a mong?
Who is the better rogue?Cat Druid or Rogue?
>>583667054There's no way that's intentional, holy fuck.
>>583667074>mongdo you british all sleep in one big bed with the queen at one end
>>583667094cats have recklnessness now so unironically cats
>>583667067>he wasted a kidney on a preemptive cocoon
>>583666309The War Within got 2 sequels?
>>583667074DR
>>583667127yes, ebonics (American English) is also banned here
>>583666045>league of legends ripped off world of warcraft>world of warcraft ripped off warhammerwhat did warhammer rip off ?
>>583667250not from what i hear
>>583667226So you stun yourself for 5s to DR a 3s cheap shot at the cost of a trinket slot?Truly the greatest pvp minds at work here.
>>583667295the stun can be turned off as intended
>>583667318>as intendedDoubt.
>>583666952is that some secret pala tech ? where cucking yourself for 6 seconds could actually pay off since you might survive and then bubble->run away with 60% increased movement ?or is anon just retarded ?
>>583667318Sounds like a bug? You can't right click debuffs. If it's a buff then that's wrong.
>>583651960You can bring back the code, you cannot remove the retail faggotry from the game.
>>583667502Advertising services in the LFG chat/tool leads to a chat mute if enough people report it.
>>583667267Warhammer was originally just a ploy for Games Workshop to sell miniatures from franchises that they lost the license to, which is why Oldhammer is downright schizophrenic.
>>583661126When live comes out. I'm so sick and tired of horde faggotry in beta.
>Nigh Elves should be able to be magesThey already have mages, they're called priestesses of the moon, keepers of the grove and druids of the talonThis franchise is literally being gate kept from being good by the dumbest people in the entire gaming industry, that just want everything homogenized
>blind can be dispelled>poisons can be dispelled>every human with a trinket>stealth detection with legacy points>items with stealth detection>bleed removal from first aid>thorns exist
>>583667669I think they should have Night Elf Mages, but they should have their own custom 1-5 starting area in a new section of the Dire Maul complex that ends with them leaving for Zephras or somesuch.
You're not dumb enough to fall of the FOMObait and roll PvP, right?You're not missing out on anything and will only have your time wasted by griefers and corpsecampers with too much free timeUs gainfully employed white men roll PvE
>>583667669Aren't they caving in and making skelves priest eventually?
they need to ban hr/sr
>>583667671you were already the best pvp class for 30 years its time for a change :)
>>583667502People do this in Classic.
>>583667810GDKP died for this
>>583667267Warhammer was a rushed creation because GW lost the right to distribute D&D in the UK, it was based on D&D and its same inspirations, but with a bizarre punk art style>>583667669genie's out of the bottle with undead paladins, anything is fair game now
>>583667810I'm not even gonna waste my time or brain space trying to figure out what this even is.
>>583667743mages are inferior magic users to what the night elves already have, being an ancient magic using raceholy shit, you're dense
>>583665152Everything Samwise draws goes hard as fuck. Hate watching women and faggots absolutely rape the aesthetic that he helped establish into the ground.
>roll pvp horde, to try horde and to see how is pvp >people before were saying a lot of fighters rolling horde and shit >Hillsbrad Foothills>Alliance grouped, raiding this area >Try to gather horde>They just whine in the general chat how alliance are bad guys, ganking them poor guys, crying how it's dishonest and they want to delete this game This happened yesterday. I swear I regret not screenshotting the chat. Even more, after a few minutes they started to fight between each other.
>>583668052>Samwise didierwas he a diddy bludhe had to have been with a name like that
>>583667502>blaming retail for a problem exclusively found in classicWannabe vanilla veteran cryboom hours
>>583667754I am unemployed
>>583668131>roll pvp>get in combat with an ally>start running>shard into a different layer randomly and they disappear>getting ganked>invite a random person in /1 to my group>get layered out to safetyI LOVE PVP
>>583668131It's always like this, both sides get steamrolled
The 2026 pvp realm experience is nothing like it was back in vanilla.You might have less than a dozen fights from 1-60 in 2005, constantly seeing the opposing faction is not vanillalike.
https://www.reddit.com/r/wowforever/comments/1wze0hg/is_this_normal_soloing_stockade_bosses_with_eyes/>30 days until launch
>>583668034The Shen'dralar are night elves and mages. The kaldorei, or night elves, have practiced arcane magic for longer than druidic magic.
>>583668016Since Black Temple came out on the TBC Anniversary servers you can go straight to the final boss of Tempest Keep and Serpentshrine Cavern without clearing any of the previous bosses.This leads to these "skip runs" where people only do the final boss plus the ones with big chase items like trinkets.The loot rules of these runs are Soft Reserve where a list is posted that people can put an item down that only the people have it "soft reserved" can roll on.In this run everyone has a 2 items to soft reserve.The rest is rolled out in the standard MS>OS fashion but winning an item in this manner gives you a +1, meaning you can't get another item until everyone that rolls also is on +1 item.Now the "HR" items are not obtainable by the raid, the leader straight up joinks them and/or sells them to buyers for cash/gold that he organized beforehand. You will not get a silver of this transaction and this raid in particular pretty much hardreserved all the good drops.
>>583668194I doubt it is comfortable or safe to carry a bottle that way
>>583667850I guess that's fair.
>>583668398Classicfags are mentally ill for playing this trash
>>583668340>no social aggro on mob pull>just like in classicbut that's wrong you retard
>>583668154>exclusivelyOkay buddy, don't throw the retard pendulum to the opposite end.
>>583668398>Since Black Temple came out on the TBC Anniversary servers you can go straight to the final boss of Tempest Keep and Serpentshrine Cavern without clearing any of the previous bosses.>This leads to these "skip runs" where people only do the final boss plus the ones with big chase items like trinkets.Dungeons will be exactly like this
>>583660738God I will buy all their shop items if they don’t cave to the screeching retards that made retail retail. Dungeon spamming for exp will always be stupid. The dhance for interesting or powerful loot for the level is already enough reason to run dungeons without exp poopsocking dingeon to dungeon spam
Why didn't they give night elf shamans?Dwarf sham is so boring
>>58366327090% of items are being sold at or below vendor price, retard
>>583668352>ackshuallyports the human and gnome mage skills and talent tress onto night elf and calls it a day because autism, because homogenization, muh shedralar, wow another retail elf recolor you are a miserable person and your pilpul is foul
what happens now?
alliancedun moroghcave with trollsrare drop of a recipe that vendors for 20 silverdo that for an houreasy 100g
>>583668635which cave
>>583668584Druids don’t like fire, water, air and earth elementals, Cenarius lost his son to one, an earth elemental that is.
>>583668398>and this raid in particular pretty much hardreserved all the good drops.So nobody will play ball and the retard won't get a group.
>>583668672Then night elves shouldn't be in the alliance since they have warlocks and mages
>>583668635
>>583668702>So nobody will play ball and the retard won't get a group.>Need one bear tank or one ele shammyClearly people still join.
>>583668671
>>583668589Are you really crying you can't make gold on the beta AH? Who fucking cares, nigger?
>>583668635>rare drop>20 silver>rare drop>easy 100gIs this a bot?
>>583668591The Shen’dralar you encounter in Dire Maul cast the exact same spells as playable mages and their leader, Tor’theldrin, is a warrior/mage hybrid. You lost, schizo.
>>583668815no i had to write fast as i was about to die to a bunch of murlocs
hordethunder bluffcity with taurenerp with futa tauren for 20 silverdo that for an houreasy 100g
If you don't like HR raids, you can join a guild. No one forces you to pug.Leading pug raids is the worst job in the game so no one wants to do it for no benefit.
>>583668589ok, is 90% (which I doubt) the same as "no reason to use the AH"?is it, faggot?
>>583668747It’s a Cold War conflict, they’re in an alliance of convenience in vanilla and it’s only over time that they culturally align with the other races in the alliance.
>watch wow fogever videos on youtube>not a single good one, it's all paid shills with fake reactions to mundane things or just bad contentI challenge you to show me a single forever video that looks like fun gameplay, or a fun adventure, or anything good about the game
>>583668978What are they suppoed to show its literally the same game, with changes only autists care about
>>583668978its literally just classic fresh sod minus
>>583669049>>583669056I literally jsut want to see ONE video that makes forever worth playing that is not pure paid streamer shill fake hype
>>583668869>warrior/mage hybridso not a magelots of npc's use spells from casters, that doesn't make them the samead hom from an autistic shut-in that wants more retail homogenization you make the game boring because you're an insufferable child that was never told no, not even once in your entire lifewe can use the same pilpul justification or reasoning you use to deny the community playable high elves by saying the shendrashit had their time and have gone extinct
What were they thinking when they built Forever on the retail client instead of the classic one?What were they thinking when they made Classic plus have only retail graphics available before streamers had to tell them that wasn't okay?
>>583669139if you didnt want to raidlog classic vanilla the 10 times they released it, you wont want to play wow forever
>there are people who are so stupid they can’t come to their own conclusions and require YouTube videos to think for them
>>583669175>What were they thinking when they built Forever on the retail client instead of the classic one?easier to develop>What were they thinking when they made Classic plus have only retail graphics available before streamers had to tell them that wasn't okay?idk i guess they r dumb
>>583668340Pretty cool of the redditor for putting this up before the farmers and other pest can abuse it.
>>583669175>What were they thinking when they built Forever on the retail client instead of the classic one?cheaper to downgrade new client than upgrade old onethey already made classic on the legion client
all you do in retail is raidlog, pretend it's somehow some awful concept you can't tolerate in classicwhat's it like being so slimy and dishonest
who mentioned retail
>>583669175You realize the classic client was built off the Legion engine, right?
>>583669160I won, you lost, sucks to suck, use a trip so we can all filter you.
>>583669175Imagine being blizzard and having to deal with these retards who think like this.God forbid if this retard gets a five figure audience on a stream or social platform, which amplify the retard's takes.
me, personally, i love retail as well as forever
>>583668340yep, this game is just pure poopoo
>>583669175>they built Forever on the retail client instead of the classic one?They don't have to struggle with the 2004 rushed code they've refactored 16 times already.
who the fuck is Margrave why does he get mentioned on trade chat every now and then
i miss 2019 so much bros
>>583669312Nobody raids in retail. It's just m+ spam.
>>583669383>I won, you lost, sucks to suck, use a trip so we can all filter you.lol you need a nap
>>583669402Same.After all, retail is where the draenei girls are at.
how bad is the dungeon xp nerf really if you don’t do quests? like if you did a dungeon at the earliest level how many bars of xp do you get? has anyone tested it?
>>583669251ok buddy tell us how you never went to school and how no one has ever taught you anything because you have known everything, always, from the moment you were born
>>583669506GEMMY GEM GEMALL POSTS BELOW ARE VANTABLACK COAL
someone should make an addon so I could see all posts in the thread in the game chat
>>583669570School is leftist indoctrination, I’ve known that since I was a kid.
>>583669567Dungeon mob xp is horrendously bad. Nobody is gonna want to do a dungeon more than once. People are only doing multiple dungeon runs right now to farm bis because of the level lock.
forever should have been wow 2, a complete remaster with 6 new classes, complete new balance, complete new models, complete new engine that isn't spaghetti code house of cards that was touched by 99999 different developers over the last 30 years, starting from the same point that vanilla started and retconning literally every part of the story that people didn't like and burying retail as an "alternative" and forever being the new mainstream, and then having it's own expansions and progressBUT NOinstead we have spit glued wow abomination 30 days before launch and there's more bugs than no mans sky at launch
They better not nerf Priest.
retoilets need potty training, use your /wowg/ toilet instead of humiliating yourself like a street shitter with doo doo sticking to your legs
>>583669591ask ai to do it
>>583669567You get basically no kill XP.A full dungeon clear is not even one bar.
>>583669591didnt it have a browser addon?
>>583669567You don’t need to test it, experience points don’t vary from kill to kill. It’s just punching in numbers in a calculator.
>>583669567less than one bar for a full clear. if theres a single grey mob for anyone, the group gets 0 exp
>>583669694Good.Quests and drops are the rewards.
>>583662636seethe
imagine being a rogue, never getting an invite to the 1 (one) dungeon run tanks will do
>>583669487same. i also really miss covidwe are never getting these back
>>583669987i hope so
>>583669872just buy a new weapon from the AH every 5 levels
>>583669567like 1/5th of a level for an entire dungeon tops, often less
>>583670096>run a dungeon 5 times>get a levelWhat’s the problem?
>aion 2tremendous success>wow foreverevery day looks more sussyhow do we respond to this?
>>583669872who cares if you lose the roll on some weaponeveryone in the group gets the transmog so you can switch the skin
>>583670170i think you missed the most important part of that sentence
>>583670212Aion fell off big time mate. It's over.
>>583670514very funny
>>583670514actual slopthe ui is hideousthe combat animations are horrendousp2w slop
>>583660679This is a problem how when the quests give 1.5 levels?
>>583670212People said this about Black Desert Online.
>>583670514holy KWAB
>>583670579But enough about WoW, what about Aion?
Inv to asmon layer bros Btw the leftists really suck hahaha
>>583670514
>>583670674hahahahahhaahah asshole>>583670675RIGHT? but woman right?!sw trade chat is actualy like that
>>583660712Outlaw was just casino? How is that multitasking
why aren't we all playing Warhammer: age of reckoning again???
aion 2 is doing the weekly maintenance you subhumans
>>583669175>why use the massively superior engine that's been in development for about 25 years instead of the one that was developed for 5?Genuine idiotAlso the graphics look great
>>583670728because it looks like 2006 crap
>>583670514Well that's not very massive for an MMO?
>>583669872I run dungeons for fun, and I WILL invite rogues and plate dps (after I have anything I really want)
retoilets fighting ghostsyour game is deadyour general is deadit's your time now
>>583669175insiting on classic graphics might be the most retarded hill to die on to be honest
>>583670759and forever doesn't?
>>583670905its pretty for its artstyle
I got to play the beta for 2 months for the price of a big mac I don't see myself subbing to play at launch, the game has nothing to do post game
>>583670905Forever looks like 2004 kino.
>>583670905It looks great
>>583670212>>583670514>korean mmo falls flat on its face and is the same as all the ones that came before it>people pretend it can hurt WoW in any wayIt's been decades of this
catering wow forever to the retoilet disney pedophile art style is going to cost blizzard a lot of money
>>583670728dead gane
wow forever sucksI'm going back to good online games dota 2, wc3, brood war and warthunderand I'm going to start playing single player games again, didn't play the new kojima games, the from software games, the nintendo switch emulation, ps3 emulation, the witcher 3, that's much better than wow pooever ridden with bugs and restedxp leveling
>>583671054game is doing it's weekly maintenance you moron
>>583671080Sounds like you don't even play video games if you missed all of that stuff.
>>583671080>I'm going back to good online games dota 2, wc3, brood war and warthunder
>>583670864why are you posting this here and not in the wow retail general ? are you trying to ragebait your kind ? are you tarded ?
>>583671152I haven't played single player games since skyrim, games without multiplayer are dull, but now the multiplayer games are all so bad, they keep adding dailies and weeklies, it's not fun, feels like a chore
>>583670514bro...it hasnt even been 5 days..
>>583670514does it have elin though?
>>583671080>and I'm going to start playing single player games againdo this>I'm going back to good online games dota 2, wc3, brood war and warthunderdon't do this
>>583671384nigga the game is having its weekly maintenance
Actually playing rogue taught me to always keep some energy for the kick.
>>583670514KYOOKARIPYOOOKARIPYUUU AION 2 ALREADY DED AAAHHAHAHAHAH
>wow doesn't have a charlie kirk memorialwhy does blizzard hate america
I was hoping c+ was going to massively rework every classes spells and talents but judging by the amount of trouble the minimal tweaks have been it's probably not possible for nu blizzard to pull it off anymore
Forever just removed the old raids for retail raids and called it a day
>>583672253they also added 1 tbc spell per class, let's be fair here
Blizzard NEED to add age verification and stop anyone under 30 from playing WoW Forever. Zoomers have been disastrious for World of Warcraft.
>wake up>no beta invite
>>583662082damn my mcdicks doesn't have that
who the hell even carries mats around to make a campfire? You need 3 inventory slots minimum for this shit to do anything
>>583669175>What were they thinking when they built Forever on the retail client instead of the classic one?classic (the 2019) client is built on legion client you tard
>>583672167>was hoping c+ was going to massively rework every classes spells and talentsWhy? And how?
>>583670514a Korean MMO starting off with inflated numbers due to a gorilla shill campaign then falling flat on it's face when everyone realizes the game is trash? a tale as old as time.
>>583672167it's a blizzard game and you decide to be hopeful?
i wish i could dps in bear form
*stabs u*
>>583670514>Game was so shitty at launch in Korea they had to do refunds and host an emergency apology stream>IT'LL DO NUMBERS IN THE WEST THOUGH JUST WATCH!
Post your class and your character's theme song
>>583670514is Aion fun?
>>583672665#nochanges bros... our response?
>>583672762bro wtf that's kinda rude
>>583672762*takes no damage*
>>583672860https://youtube.com/watch?v=PCpThkeRkMQ
>>583672860Enhancement shaman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFc-2aNZ6VY&list=RDRFc-2aNZ6VY&start_radio=1iykyk
>>583672708>it'sPajeet Prajeetington pls
>>583672864it's alright, very casual once u're done with the main quest
>>583672860warlock of coursehttps://youtu.be/CMyvIDLAub8
>>583672860priesthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbOQhAlnCcQ
>>583672860not going to play wow forever if they don't fix most thingsbut if I do I'll play horde paladin undead
Forever fucking sucks. Nobody even logs in anymore
>>583672860Rogues hit differenthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVfGFmBFgoc
Alliance gets centaur and Dryads/grovekeepersHorde gets Satyr and Gnolls.
>>583672689Because we've played every classic class to death for 20 years and they're boring now. >how?Completely new set of spells and talents and ways to play the classes
>>583672860Druidhttps://youtu.be/XBCZHdpM48I?si=sTiWTbczsvpBYDqY
>>583673394sorry wrong songhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EPrW9rC3vA
>>583670514I swear Aion 2 came out 15 years ago
>>583673360Alliance gets vrykuls and horde gets pooped on
>>583673379We're all very lucky that you left employment behind a long time ago and have no ability to influence the direction of the game.
this is the qualified feedback that is shaping this game up btw
>>583668910Yes
>>583673527SoD was great when the cap was 25
>>583664367Holy retarded dooming.Why the fuck those other people be in the dungeon if not for questing/first run?
>>583673527What is mr. redditor actually complaining about? That people are playing so much that raids should be available day 1? or people are playing so much that raids need delayed longer so poopsockers who speedran to 60 don't farm them before everyone else?
>>583673484Vrykul would not join the human faction they see humans as freakish mutants and their warlike violetn character fits neatly into the horde. Im sure they'll be added when we get northrend in forever, but I actually expect them to be a horde race. Alliance might get some collectional of titanforged mechagnomes earthen and Iron vrykul though.
>>583673663>they see humans as freakish mutantsOnly like some of them
>>5836735271-20 1 week20-30 1 week30-40 1 week40-50 1 week50-60 1 week35 daysNov 4-dec 9 is 35 days too.Do it Blizzard
>>583673637Not complaining. He's saying that there is such an abundance of content that the Raids could be delayed to give folks a chance to experience all of the Game in a slower pace.
>>583673527>*Flies past you with every optimized item/talent/spec/class/buff/enchant in the game, on amphetamines*>Heh, nothing personal kid..
>>583672860undead palahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fmkMa9K0v4
>could've given horde death knight that mirrors paladin but with death spells instead of light>could've given alliance runemaster that mirrors shaman but with runes instead of spirits>could've upscaled the character textures>Could've given us normal elves instead of blue trannies>Could've not touched quest items that you could buy on AH>could've added some low level shield crafts for bs>Could've left in the ability to remove trannyfog
>>583673637he is echoing his other fellow redditor about dad gamers leveling too slowly for the raids to be here "so sudden"
>>583673719the ones we are likely to see any time soon in forever.I actually expect that if foreer i popular we will evenetually get to a non-legioned broken isle, but I also expect that wont be for a long long while, WOTLK meanwhile along with Cataclysm zones directly attached to EK and Kalimdor are very obvious first moves to make in particular with wrath very little work would be required adapting the world to make WoW year 0 sense. all the titan areas would be essentially the same, the scourge areas would just be less built up. the vrykul stuff would be near identical, the location and nature of horde and alliance bases would be different obviously. Like probably no warsong hold, since no garrosh.
>>583673527Raids in 6-8 weeks better
>>583673761After a multitude of official vanilla classic releases + shit like restedxp guides being common knowledge, I don't think it takes the average player nearly as long to go 1-60 anymore. a month is plenty of time to level for anyone who is actively playing the game. If you aren't 60 after an entire month you are either a dadgamer playing 1 hour a night or a clueless gigashitter.
why are people who dont want to rush complain they cant rush raiding?
>>583655320Gateway drug for furryism
>>583673878All the dad gamers I knew were on social welfare and playing all day neglecting their kids
I hope they implement level stopps i.e. like theb etaRaids should start at the very earliest 3 months into release if they want people to explore the world
>>583674042Not everyone has 4 hours a night every night to play efficiently to hit 60 in 4 days played
>>583673527>>583673878It's shit like this that turned retail into a timegated hellhole. The devs forcing roadblocks on everything so MUH DAD GAYMER doesn't fall behind, when those type of players are never gonna succeed at an MMO to begin with.
>>583673991This. Chad with 3 level 60s on raid release isn't hurting you by being much better than you at the game. >>583674147They won't, this isn't SoD, you will be left in the dust where you belong.
just say you hope they kill the game already>>583674147>>583673991>>583673730
>>583670514>koreans make an actually new game>blizzard just rerelease the same shit game for 5 times from 2004 and adds blue elfs (same model as every other elf)this is what happens if you only hire the freaks.
>>583674246They already killed the game making an entire dungeon clear give sub 1 bar of exp.
>>583674160>every night?! can one learn this power?! brother i play this game 16 hours a day.
the retoilet faggot brigade needs to mention asmongold and aion to cope through each day so it won't end up killing itself, grimanything but admitting you're the problem, amirite
>>583674062OK that is enough noticing for today
>>583674318Being unemployed at 35 without a social life isn't impressive, but maybe the Twitch viewers you talk to on discord think it is
>>583674160>Not everyone has 4 hours a night every night to play efficiently to hit 60 in 4 days playedI will play 4 hours a night but very inefficientlyI'll be dicking around, doing quests inoptimally , stopping to fish, giving out my crafting extras to randoms, camping, maybe some battlegroundsI'm looking forward to it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWqdvWAdWOg&t=85sif this is the gameplay you want I unironically would suggest you play swtor, you'd enjoy it
>>583674276koreans doesn't make online games, its just interactive artist portfolios made to look pretty but fall apart beyond the initial presentation, with aggressive monetization and pay2win, designed to squeeze out money from whales (they are actually the only ones that matter), and keep it running until whales are drained empty, shut'er down, and then start the cycle anew
>>583674416Good luck finding that Uldaman group, senpai! I need to go do all the new raid content!
Me following the dungeon exp discussions thinking boosters and dungeon spammers don't affect me in any way, but pugs skipping every skippable trash and miniboss in every dungeon because not rewarding enough for the effort will affect me.
>Less than a month to launch>Megaservers still a shit idea>Fundamental problems like spell power scaling and warrior rage>Some specs in desperate need or reworks while others are being crammed with streamer bait playstylesI wanted to be a hope sissy for once...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JdK-TD7V-s
>>583674615warrior rage is completely fine, always was, they're just a bunch of crybabies.
>>583674318>brother i play this game 16 hours a day.Do you not get bored? 16 hours I'd blow my brains out the game is already boring if I play 3 hours.>>583674416>Being unemployed at 35 without a social life isn't impressiveThe older I get, the more boring I find video games
>>583674728>Do you not get bored? I'm bored right now not being able to play the game. No, I don't get bored. I get sore and sometimes I collapse into bed at the end like an exhausted warrior.
>>583674189Right this is wow forever, this isn't era
>you don't need active sub to play in the beta>but you need active sub to post in forever section of official forumsThe game is in the hands of twitter and retoilet players.
WHAT DID THE NEW PATCH TODAY DO
>>583674907>>583674907>>583674907>>583674907here you go tranny niggers, you can go back to dilating now
>>583672167There was nothing wrong with the classic spell damage, coefficients or ranks but they decided to create endless work for themselves by deciding they can do better when absolutely nobody ever complained about the old values before.Truly baffling.
>>583674909weapon racials give proficiency with the weapon nowso orc mages can use axes, human priests swords and dwarf hunters maces
>>583674909added them/they/it pronouns for my character :)
>>583674870This game will be minmaxxed and be finished in a month and three days by the most active players and have a train run on it like every other version of WOW that has ever existed. Enjoy your casual leveling guild.
>>583653794I played turtle for 3k hours and I can't recognize any of the sets on the left so I assume this post is bait
Skyborne start area is woke giving aid to refugees and talking about prejudice and discrimination Fucking hell blizzard is so trash Its all made by woke leftist californians that cant do anything well and have victim complexes
>>583674954dont fuck with me>>583674967fu
>>583674954Lotro had this is was fucking cool.
>>583674978>herpa derp schmerp werpYeah so you can play era meanwhile we chads are finna have fun in foreva
its dark mon
>fury warriors level with 1h shield
what is happening monthe barrens look spooky
>>583675328there's straight up no downsides, you do same or even more damage than with a 2h and you absolutely need shield bash
>>583675270>>583675376what the fuck is a mon
>>583673809baseded
After all, why shouldn't I?
>>583673730It would be nice but these level caps make you "waste" XP and rewards.I had absolutely no interest of playing my level 20 toons when I knew that level cap will increase soon.
>>583676174I preloaded a few quests, it felt really gay so I stopped.
>>583674276>same model as every other elfNah man, it's the same models as "the other elf"
>>583674901I feel disgusting saying this but asmonbald and his classic retard friends are genuinely our only hope Its that or the gay woke leftist retail trannies that want wow forever to be gay with pride flags everywhere
>>583674978just make sure to uninstall and STFU after you waste a month of your life rushing to 60 and doing all content available to you.
Where are you?
